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Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#1  June 18, 2013, 01:03:48 am
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http://www.mediafire.com/?kbsdgq8zzo3so74

Sure enough, go ahead and tear her up. Since I have free time away from my novel, I'm looking over my MUGEN stuff again. Made a few minor tweaks here and there, but I'm sure there's more to be done. Like I said, break her apart and tell me what still needs to be fixed.

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Re: Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#2  June 18, 2013, 10:43:29 pm
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i'm not can but i heard you wanted feedback even though i'm not familiar with this game

pressing y locks her up(gets stuck)
she might need some damage buffering on a lot of her moves given the range
her grab could use more range
her launcher seems inconsistent(meaning sometimes the air chains hit sometimes not)
her spin attack use more priority(so she doesn't get hit out of it)
Last Edit: June 18, 2013, 11:21:54 pm by jtp768

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Re: Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#3  June 18, 2013, 11:41:20 pm
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jtp768 said, June 18, 2013, 10:43:29 pm
i'm not can but i heard you wanted feedback even though i'm not familiar with this game

pressing y locks her up(gets stuck)
Probably something that happened while I was cleaning up the parry
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she might need some damage buffering on a lot of her moves given the range
I've noticed that with some of her normals.
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her grab could use more range
I'll look over that
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her launcher seems inconsistent(meaning sometimes the air chains hit sometimes not)
Which one?
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her spin attack use more priority(so she doesn't get hit out of it)
Guess that's up next too. I was focusing on making it less safe.



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Re: Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#4  June 19, 2013, 12:35:49 am
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Proceeding to tear Scarlet apart:
-Her voices. Lolwut o_O
-Her chaining can go backwards and forwards. Adjust it to just go forward. (as in: A<B<C, not C<B<A)
-Her attacks feel all choppy and slow.
-KOF 13 hitsparks with classic KOF supersparks do not sit well together. Find more suitable hitsparks.
-Her superpause goes by way too quickly.
-Her superjump goes waaaay too high.
-I can't seem to pull any of her gun moves.
-You might want to let her be able to move out of her taunt. It lasts way too long.
-Almost all of her attacks are unsafe. Not good. Use Training by Stupa, it lets you look at frame advantage.
-Her jump sound seems kind of annoying.
-Her throw's damage is too low.
-The shading on her palettes looks bad.
-Assuming you don't want the opponent to air recover, it's important to put fall.recover = 0 in the hitdefs of every attack you don't want to allow recovering.
That's what I found after about five minutes of testing. She needs a lot of work. :-\
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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm
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Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am
Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

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Re: Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#5  June 19, 2013, 01:02:37 am
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C.A.N said, June 19, 2013, 12:35:49 am
Proceeding to tear Scarlet apart:
-Her voices. Lolwut o_O
It's Dan Smith from killer7
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-Her chaining can go backwards and forwards. Adjust it to just go forward. (as in: A<B<C, not C<B<A)
(e.g.- Remove the normal move contacts from state 230 and 231, I assume)
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-Her attacks feel all choppy and slow.
Following standard pausetime and hit values. The '12-12 for light, 14-14 for medium, and the '16-16' for strong, at least with the normals.
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-Her superpause goes by way too quickly.
I'll adjust that then.
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-Her superjump goes waaaay too high.
Relic from an older version. Have considered removing it.
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-I can't seem to pull any of her gun moves.
The '46' and/or '28' moves? I guess I'll take a look at the command times.
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-You might want to let her be able to move out of her taunt. It lasts way too long.
Yeah, need to fix that
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-Almost all of her attacks are unsafe. Not good. Use Training by Stupa, it lets you look at frame advantage.
I have Training, but don't use it often. It is concerning the pausetimes and hittimes, or the CLSNs themselves?
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-Her jump sound seems kind of annoying.
From Hokuto No Ken[/quote]
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-Her throw's damage is too low.
A previous user said she needed to buffered. I'm gonna take a look at carefully fixing that. Don't want her to be too strong.
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-The shading on her palettes looks bad.
All palettes? Or just a select few?
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-Assuming you don't want the opponent to air recover, it's important to put fall.recover = 0 in the hitdefs of every attack you don't want to allow recovering.
I'll have to look over this carefully

It's nice to have some useful feedback. I've plenty of free time to fix up Scarlet.

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Re: Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#6  June 19, 2013, 01:17:19 am
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Hubert Oswell said, June 19, 2013, 01:02:37 am
-I have Training, but don't use it often. It is concerning the pausetimes and hittimes, or the CLSNs themselves?
-All palettes? Or just a select few?
-Not the CLSN.
-All of them. Get a good palette maker to check them out.
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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm
Xan is always lovable
Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am
Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Saohc

Re: Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#7  June 19, 2013, 03:05:38 am
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The palettes aren't too much of a bit issue, but I guess I could have someone look at it.

By 'unsafe', it sounds like you're referring to the "guard.pausetime" values on the normals. like '10,5' on her light punch, for example.

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Re: Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#8  June 19, 2013, 03:11:18 am
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I'm referring to their frame data. Her moves almost always leave her at negative frames if they don't knock down.
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Umezono said, September 09, 2014, 01:53:10 pm
Xan is always lovable
Alpaca-San said, December 27, 2014, 08:50:31 am
Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?

Saohc

Re: Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#9  June 19, 2013, 03:24:56 am
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Taking a look with Training...



So the pausetimes shouldn't be equal, or rather... the hittimes should be adjusted...

Or is it the recovery frames in the animation?

Ah, you're referring to the extra frames in some of the animations.

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Last Edit: June 19, 2013, 03:46:39 am by Hubert Oswell

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Re: Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#10  June 19, 2013, 08:58:29 pm
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Hubert Oswell said, June 19, 2013, 03:24:56 am
Taking a look with Training...



So the pausetimes shouldn't be equal, or rather... the hittimes should be adjusted...

Or is it the recovery frames in the animation?

Ah, you're referring to the extra frames in some of the animations.

Hes referring to:



substitute guard.hittime in there for frame advantage on block.

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You limit yourself so badly when you try to avoid variables. When you get over your fear of the "complexity" of variables, you will find yourself in a better place: A beautiful world where coding is actually fun.

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Re: Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#11  June 20, 2013, 09:13:04 am
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Re: Scarlet Updated 6/17/2013(Tear her up)
#12  June 20, 2013, 07:10:24 pm
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She's not beyond salvaging. In response to the description, I haven't been playing fighting games too much recently because I've been busy with college and was busy with writing my novel for a while. For some reason, I don't put towards the effort to play much anymore.

Although, that video does give me some insight.

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