yeah just to let you guys now yeah I'm working on him here is my post ok this a sprite so official and the first of it's kind that I had to play his theme next to itlet the theme play just so you can hear the epicness of himhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFfsslSt2xEok note his not animated yet but soon enough he will be this is the official sprite please tell me what ya think there fixed dude sheeshs
This is the graphics forum. You really should have put the sprite in this thread if you wanted to post. I had to click on a youtube link that gave me a THEME song, another link, then scroll down to the last flaming post to actually see the sprite. You couldn't have just put it here?I think his sword is too long. I know he has a long sword. i know FF is known for massive swords in general, but that will just look wrong in mugen. That is over half the screen, it will look seriously screwy.
Cyanide said, December 23, 2010, 10:30:28 amThis is the graphics forum. You really should have put the sprite in this thread if you wanted to post. I had to click on a youtube link that gave me a THEME song, another link, then scroll down to the last flaming post to actually see the sprite. You couldn't have just put it here?I think his sword is too long. I know he has a long sword. i know FF is known for massive swords in general, but that will just look wrong in mugen. That is over half the screen, it will look seriously screwy.sorry I guess I got a little lazy I'll fix the post ok BTW the sword as based on a image i saw I resizing as close to the height as i could this is what i got I could try to for shorting Idea just so it looks short until he swings the damn thing at ya but I'm trying to stay as close to the things appearance I could have a vote on it but oh well If it needs to be short for mugen standards I guess so I extra note yeah it is too big just trying to run way form that will be to much LOLz oh well I guess I have to rethink and use the old sword I made before then again I would say play with him on bigger stages but that only would work in 3D KK I'll shorting the damn thing On seconded thought I'm keeping it this I'll try for shorting idea and fix it in such a way that it doesn't spam across the screen when uses it or is not using it
AWESOME!!! Yeah,the sword it's too long,but it's a great work,the sprites are very good,no damn doubt about it!I can't wait,i've got another crap version of Sephiroth,but this one it's just 1000000 times better!Keep it up Jed!
well the thing is I'm keeping the length but fixing it so it appears shorter but the truth is it is that long in DissidiaI used a image of a model resized it to get that length but it's not that long this was just a fast edit to see how long is in mugen.......... yeah well it all most covers the stage but I'll fix that by making him take his time to swing it at ya that and the other two of his attacks are shortened to just kicks I'd say get a bigger stage actually seeing I'm making him like in dissidia his very slow at swing that damn thing at mid to short range leaves him self open to attacks. It the long range that's most of his attacks focus on that will kill ya. some of his attacks are fast but there still take there time to execute so he has some weaknesses that can still be done in mugen the same way even with a ridiculously big sword. :V
ok note this is an my first attempt to make Sephiroth come to life in mugen. In other words here is the animation what do ya think it needs I keep thinking I just need to animate the chest and head (maybe the hair too) to look like he is breathing and have more motion but oh well didn't think of that up until nownote he's holding the sword at an angle so it only looks like it's shortupdate test twoupdate 2 test threeUpdate 3 test four with less beathing
If you move all the upper body, why the head still freezing like the lower part??Good sprites, but i think still need work, especially when I see the anim is just like 3 sprites instead 5-8 like it supposed to be with that quality of sprites
Frank "Basara" West said, December 29, 2010, 10:08:07 pmIf you move all the upper body, why the head still freezing like the lower part??Good sprites, but i think still need work, especially when I see the anim is just like 3 sprites instead 5-8 like it supposed to be with that quality of sprites so yeah your saying more smother and mor mostion huh? ok then I get on it these are test animations might need to see what it might need then. you think he should breath like test 3 or 4
People don't grow noticeably bigger when they breathe. You should check out Rugal's standing pose in capcom vs snk for an example.
GreatDario said, December 30, 2010, 03:12:17 amPeople don't grow noticeably bigger when they breathe. You should check out Rugal's standing pose in capcom vs snk for an example.yeah I know that at this point I'm scarping this one and remaking it according to how Yamakichi did it so no prob I continue tomorrow then
GreatDario said, December 30, 2010, 03:12:17 amPeople don't grow noticeably bigger when they breathe.
sephiroth is also a mutant on the count he was made form that chick called jenova or something cells right?
Even if that was the case, I'm still pretty sure that he is not a balloon. The transitions should be more subtle than what you currently have there; less expanding outward for certain.Also, I had not realized how silly that particular stance for Cyclops was until now.
Rolento said, December 30, 2010, 04:48:39 pmEven if that was the case, I'm still pretty sure that he is not a balloon. The transitions should be more subtle than what you currently have there; less expanding outward for certain.Also, I had not realized how silly that particular stance for Cyclops was until now.yeah ok well this yamakichi's cloudif ya look at you can see that he don't even breath he just moves like a billboard some of the body parts just don't even do anything ells. so this what I might aim for then today I hope it goes better this time
that cloud animation is bad and if you're going to settle for mediocrity then i'm not really looking forward to this
Titiln said, December 30, 2010, 06:59:52 pmthat cloud animation is bad and if you're going to settle for mediocrity then i'm not really looking forward to thisdude you never got anything good to say for one, two it's my char I can choose how this will go either way I have the final say with what I can do with it, lastly hey at least it will looks better then gulthor's sorry ass try at making him either way its' not like I can't improve him later or see what others think as well
Jed said, December 30, 2010, 07:13:10 pmdude you never got anything good to say for onefalseQuotetwo it's my char I can choose how this will go either way I have the final say with what I can do with itthen why post or ask for feeedback at allQuotelastly hey at least it will looks better then gulthor's sorry ass try at making himthis is relevant how
Titiln said, December 30, 2010, 07:14:52 pmJed said, December 30, 2010, 07:13:10 pmdude you never got anything good to say for onefalseQuotetwo it's my char I can choose how this will go either way I have the final say with what I can do with itthen why post or ask for feeedback at allQuotelastly hey at least it will looks better then gulthor's sorry ass try at making himthis is relevant howyeah sure dude lets see cause one thing saying that my game plan sucks and deeming it something you don't want to see when I got the talent to pull this off doesn't seem like feedback to me if that what your getting atI post to get any feedback if needed but that didn't strike me like feedback dude your just saying if that my game plan then i don't like it to see it don't seem like feedback but oh well I try and see what others have to say I don't have to take your world for it
The Dude who releases Toehoes and Unfunny Memetic Bosses said, December 30, 2010, 07:27:46 pmThe stance does look too stiff. Might I suggest using Gill as a base?well I guess I might have to look at some other options then most of guys are saying look at other chars for his movement well also the pose is based off of the dissidia pose with Ky's in the mix but oh well I guess I'll have to study his movement then and others
well I think I'm ok with the main pose even so sephiroth in Dissidia just poses like that if see him stand still in the game like his some bad ass who don't need any other fighting stance here is a video on that if you guys can see his pose is a bit like the one I havenote forwarded it to 4:40 to see himhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Z1uhO2-uo
It can be done in less frames if you make the animation more subtle. he shouldn't move his shoulders to much.Focus on the abs. I did lean from that cyclops animation but I didn't go over the top like they did.
ok did a 7th try at this if think he need a little more breathing or needs to be more smother let me knownote the animation looks a bit faster because of the set up on the FF seems to do that
it's better but i think the shoulders should go more up than out. and still less movement most of the movement should be in the chest and abs
Riptide said, June 04, 2011, 05:12:22 amit's better but i think the shoulders should go more up than out. and still less movement most of the movement should be in the chest and absso you think it should move more like cloud with a more Sephiroth like attitude? Riptide said, June 03, 2011, 09:10:15 amIt can be done in less frames if you make the animation more subtle. he shouldn't move his shoulders to much.Focus on the abs. I did lean from that cyclops animation but I didn't go over the top like they did.wait you did say go with this set up with less extreme look than cyclops right? ok I'll see ok last note something like test 5 only with his arms moving up and down but not so much as his chest and abs yet with less extreme movement then cyclops and should I keep the lower part of this cloak moving the way it dose in test 7 witch the one I just showed you?test5
There is no fluidity there. It's like watching a robot breath. Move shoulders, expand chest, move shoulders, expand chest, grow a bit. It should be move+expand, move+expand+grow. You don't do 1 thing per frame you do many. You're just doing 1 thing in each frame and it doesn't work.
yeah I see that now I think I need more betweens to smoothen it more need to rethink this theneither way here another test might not be as good yet
that's a lot better.but th second movement up should be above the waist. there should be not upward expansion below the belt.his coat should not move back and up.just remember no movement below the belt.
well ok then I'll keep tryingBTW here is a random test I did off that GMO reader all I did was zoom it down to the size of my char and reduced it to 32 color res not bad but it looks crappy and needs some work I guess gee I could make everything form Dissida this way instead of my edits this way
That is very nice, and I like how easy it seems for you. Good luck with this. However if this is an actual project, shouldn't this be moved to the Projects forum?
Riptide said, June 05, 2011, 12:25:06 amif you are willing to sprite over it that's the way to go.I think I might well make a new look way form that my old sephiroth seeing that ones I made was based on Yamakichi's design I could do more of better look like the last guy who made low res versions using the same set up he did only hi res and also make the rest of the Dissidia series this way any way I'm downloading FFD 012 right now will see how it will goArea said, June 05, 2011, 12:55:05 amThat is very nice, and I like how easy it seems for you. Good luck with this. However if this is an actual project, shouldn't this be moved to the Projects forum?one would think so but I'm just working on the sprite part so it won't need to be moved until I get to the coding part
Heres the thing. One this is so wrongLast time I check, my thighs arent the ones with lungs in them. They do the same thing with some of sol bad guys animation that when he is in crouching animation, his thighs breathe.There should be no reason why when he is breathing that his upper body moves two pixels up. I can see one pixel up and two the side when he breathes. Also too with a slow animation like that think about how you breathe. You wont breathe like that in a steady paste over and over again. This is probably why you are having a little hard time with it. have him breathe and wait a little before he breathes again. change up on how he breathes in and out by spacing the animation time.
I see but i think I'm gonna do something on this soon I may try out a idea seen on some sites that sprite stuff here the sitehttp://www.shoryuken.com/forum/threads/how-to-make-an-sf4-character-into-an-sf3-styled-sprite.97662/I do have a TV Tuner so i can record videos of any game off of my PS 2 or any game system for that matter I'll see if it works
yeah it will be but if anything it will be somewhat more easier to get the right moves, movement and right set up with out needing to go over to many animations and don't need to use other preset sprite and figure how to animate it the way i plan to do so though
