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#1  November 30, 2007, 12:16:47 am
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;D Well I am here, asking, Is smackdown vs raw 2008 for the ps2 any good? My cousin wants to get it for me but I dont wanna him to waste his (mostly likely dirty) money.Ok to keep it simple, I would like if you just awnser the questions below. Even if you only know the awnser to one of these questions, I would be greatful for a reply, 3 of these questions are just based on opinon.

-Would you recommend it?
-How many types of matches are there in Exhibition?
-Is 24/7 mode any good?
-How many wrestlers are there?
-Is the royal rumble in it?
That last question seems stupid, but if you played if for the Wii you would noticed alot of matches are missing and the royal rumble is one of them.
-From a 1 t0 5, what would you personally give it?
Well thanks for even wasting your time to read this thread :sugoi:
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if you are into WEE games, yeah, i'd recomend it. there are loads of exibition matches, dunno about 24/7 mode *played it at friends house*, and the roster "Feels" small.RR is in it. i'd give it a 4

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Best game ive played so far.  ;)
BUT for PS2 IT SUUUUUUCKS don't get it.  ;)
Well it doesn't suck but it does if you compare it to the 360 or PS3 versions.
It has alot of errors.  :P

Yea.
Exhibition has 100 matches.
No.
I don't know never counted.
Yea.
i'd give it a 0 out of 5.

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#4  November 30, 2007, 12:26:59 am
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I don't like the new one. It feels downgraded, especially for creation mode and the number of stars there.
It's true that if you own a PS3 then all arguments made by those who don't have one are invalid.
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if you are into WEE games, yeah, i'd recomend it. there are loads of exibition matches, dunno about 24/7 mode *played it at friends house*, and the roster "Feels" small.RR is in it. i'd give it a 4
Great I love WEE games, well thanks Snake, I didnt think someone would even look at this thread  o_O never the more, replay to it  --; Thanks again though  :grin2: and to everyone else who seems to like replaying while I type!
Best game ive played so far.  ;)
BUT for PS2 IT SUUUUUUCKS don't get it.  ;)
Well it doesn't suck but it does if you compare it to the 360 or PS3 versions.
It has alot of errors.  :P

Yea.
Exhibition has 100 matches.
No.
I don't know never counted.
Yea.
i'd give it a 0 out of 5.


Thanks too,  I will try to get it for the 360,Its just I have had a 360 and someone stole it when they raided my house sooo....yeah....,however,  am not a big fan of the over priced PS3, sorry
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#7  November 30, 2007, 03:26:08 am
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#10  November 30, 2007, 03:32:59 am
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Best game ive played so far.  ;)
BUT for PS2 IT SUUUUUUCKS don't get it.  ;)
Well it doesn't suck but it does if you compare it to the 360 or PS3 versions.
It has alot of errors.  :P

Yea.
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No.
I don't know never counted.
Yea.
i'd give it a 0 out of 5.


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I got the game for the ps2 and I got no real problem with it. I got it for like $40 on wal-mart whereas the other consoles it would be like around $60 for the game.

So it really depends on your tastes.

If you want online capablity, get the next gen stuff. But if you want it cheaper with a bonus dvd (not sure if they got it in the other consoles) then by all measn get the ps2 one.

But its not really a game i'd switch to the Wii for. To be honest smash brawl is.
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#13  November 30, 2007, 11:27:25 pm
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Wow... I can't believe the overall positive comments over this game.  I don't own SVR 2008 but I've played it many times now along with my friends who love wrestling games (they're wrestling fanatics), and we all agree this one is the worst of the recent smackdown games (even on next-gen consoles), and they've been getting gradually worse since 2006.  I'll make a list of just some of the things I can remember off the top of my head that makes 2008 worse.


1.  Added "fighting styles"  In other words, this basically limits everything you can do move-wise in the game by only allowing you to use certain moves together.  (I like to mix it up with my movesets... I like freedom.  Call me crazy.)  If you want to be a super-heavy, you can't use technical moves.  If you want to be a heavy using power, you can't use submission.  Sounds fun, right?  Also, this just limits the diversity of each wrestler on the roster in general.

2.  They removed manual targeting completely.  We kept attacking our own partners over and over. (I personally can't play this game without manual targeting)

3.  They removed PPV mode and added a crappy "Tournement mode"

4.  Despite what I've read others say on message boards, I (along with those I've played it with) find the control changes confusing and not intuitive at all.

5.  The whole roster this time around is a lot smaller and just... generally weak.  Every diva nobody cares about is in the game, no Shelton Benjamin in the game, but they put in a no-name joke like Kenny Dystra? 

6.  The AI is worse in some ways (not much worse than 2007 though).   Wrestlers often seem to have no idea what is going on around them unless you get in their face and THEN they attack.  They sometimes do the exact same moves more than 10, 15 times in a row (literally... we counted).  The general flow of the matches just seems to be off more too.

7.  You MUST do your finisher in a fixed window of time.  In other words, you can't just save it once you have the crowd behind you once.  This means if you can't get it off right away, you're screwed and you lose it.

8.  Everything in matches this year moves slower than before.  IMO, slower than how it does live on television.  Some people may like slow matches, but seeing the usually quick Rey Mysterio take 5 minutes to do 3 moves and finish with a 619 isn't my cup of tea.


With all of this wrong with it, I'm sure many people out there will still get some enjoyment out of it.  At least the multiplayer-mode hasn't been completely ruined yet (wait until next year).  Fortunately for me, Fire Pro Wrestling Returns just came out, and the contract for continuing the Smackdown series expires in 2009.
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1.Fighting styles does limit some things. but not alot.
It would be stupid if "The Great Khali" could jump off the ropes, etc.

2.???

3.Tournament > PPV mode.

4.Not really.

5.I agree with this.

6.same.

7.same.

8.wrong.

Fire Pro Returns is probably the best wrestling game.  ;D
If only it had online..

BTW 2007 was the best in the SvR Series.
2008 is now though. :sugoi: Online it is great.  :sugoi:
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#15  December 01, 2007, 12:14:37 am
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As others have said, it all comes down to taste.  Just like so many people buy every single Madden and swear by it each time, I'll never understand that or why people swear by SVR2008 either.  But at least you like Fire Pro.

And I'm not sure how one could be confused about #2.
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#16  December 01, 2007, 02:02:39 am
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1. I think the reason they did this is to make things fair for human players. How many times have I seen a person who is a super heavyweight do insanely cheap moves such as the shooting star press. Pretty much I'm not a fan of this system but I do appreciate it's fairness and the fact that people can master their own craft in terms of gameplay.

Imagine playing online with someone who has the powerhouse and high flying set. That screams cheap more than nightmare broli.

2. I agree with you on this one. It removes some of the freedom that the game once had.

3. This new tourney mode is better than the ppv mode IMO. It doesn't allow you to make a PPV, but you can at least play something new.

4. lol the control changes are not that hard. They just take getting used to them. But that is with any game.

5. Yeah, the game could have used more people. My idol the boogeyman wasn't even on it. :(

6. I think the AI is better in groups than by itself. Because for some reason they make the money in the bank matches really fun.

7. I agree with that halfway. I do think that they should allow you to store your special (with half dmg than usual of course) but alot of the time people would abuse this, making the game less challenging. I think they should have given you the choice to store it in your ability OR store it as a lesser special move by pressing a ceritan button combo (maybe r1 and r2 at the same time?)

8. Yeah that is true. Maybe they should allow you to choose normal or fast speed like they do in street fighter. But again I agree, the fighting is a bit slow.

EDIT: Oh yeah this came to mind right now. I think it's pretty sexist not to allow female characters to play in other of the game modes. Pretty much they are stuck with normal (no-dq) matches. And before you guys go "women can't do hardcore matches" look at Luna, Chyna, or my personal favorite Manami Toyota (her website: http://angela.milkcafe.to/).

And in svr 2006 it offended me that they made that bra and pnties match. *sigh* I guess I'll have to get used to the sexism in the wwe. At least until another Chyna pops up. That's when crap gets interesting.

Oh and in a game-related topic here was THQ's engine back when they were with AKI: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Co43oDGzEF0

Too bad they didn't make full use of thier predecessors by applying the "graphle struggle" system when it was in this game. I also remember tidbits here and there that were taken out such as being able to drag opponents into the backrooms (no mercy). Having these two in svr would have made it better.
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Well it depends on your tastes but I still think they shouldn't have thrown that much away from THQ's previous wrestling games.

Even EA games used their engine.
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#21  December 02, 2007, 04:25:37 am
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bitch, it still is  >:(

i'd rather play that than some next-gen games out there

I say that is when THQ was at their peak.

If only you can take people backstage like in No Mercy or do the grappling struggle like in WCW vs nWo: World Tour.

Also, it wouldn't hurt them to put in international wrestlers like they did in World tour as well.

And it would be awesome to see a dx and nwo ring like there was in world tour.

Hell, you could even rake out someone's mask off the expose their faces in that game. There was even bleeding in it.
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#24  December 08, 2007, 09:43:29 am
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Downgraded creative mode??

They added more stuff than last year, they added more hair, more accessories, more clothes, they even brought back the EYE PATCH!

U know, the 1 they took out 07.

Smackdown VS Raw 2007 was a piece of crap! Terrible loading, same boaring old season mode. Although sometimes it feels like that in 08 as well, it has way too many new features to be called "Worse than 07". U cant compare 07 to anything, it sucked horribly. And they create mode is way better on 08. 07 almost made me never wanna create a person again.

If ur gonna make a choice between 07 and 08, then get 08. Or u can get 07, if u still wanna use last years wrestlers with no Extreme Rules match and flaming tables and have EXTREMELY LONG LOADING!!

One more thing, 07's loading is soo damn long, sometimes i forget the match i picked. 08's loading is better.
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I don't think that creative mode was downgraded. I think that specific elements of their previous games has been downgraded.

Here is my list:

- Actually taking someone back stage for a backroom brawl in 5 different rooms (No Mercy)

- Making the person bleed from continuous eye rake or ripping off their mask in the same way (WCW vs nWo world tour)

- Random Interfereance (Wrestlemania 2000)

- Grappling struggle when two people grapple at the same time (WCW vs nWo world tour)

- Famous wrestlers from all over the world either than the ones in WWE hall of fame (WCW vs nWo world tour)

- And finally I think the game is sexist not to allow female wrestlers go on matches either than normal or ironman.

The game and gameplay has improved since the beginning but they take too much out of the older stuff for me to exactly seeing their wrestling engine meet its full potential.
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#26  December 08, 2007, 02:35:40 pm
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07 was one of those games where I loved the customization and hated fighting in it, you spent more time on the ground bashing keys to get up than anything, you couldnt enter female fighters into almost anything pertaining arcade modes, you couldnt pratically compete in any balanced way against the cast using someone you had created... One of the worst games I ever fought with, saving grace was really the custom engine, that was simply superb. Far better than soul calibur.
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When you get hit on the ground you don't have to push anything.  ::)
Just wait awhile then push X(Fixed in 08).

I don't think that creative mode was downgraded. I think that specific elements of their previous games has been downgraded.

Here is my list:

- Actually taking someone back stage for a backroom brawl in 5 different rooms (No Mercy)

- Making the person bleed from continuous eye rake or ripping off their mask in the same way (WCW vs nWo world tour)

- Random Interfereance (Wrestlemania 2000)

- Grappling struggle when two people grapple at the same time (WCW vs nWo world tour)

- Famous wrestlers from all over the world either than the ones in WWE hall of fame (WCW vs nWo world tour)

- And finally I think the game is sexist not to allow female wrestlers go on matches either than normal or ironman.

The game and gameplay has improved since the beginning but they take too much out of the older stuff for me to exactly seeing their wrestling engine meet its full potential.
- Backstage? LOL..WWE hasn't done that in a long time.

- Wrestlers can bleed..

- Put Interfereance on in the Options' menu..

- When has a female wrestler ever been in a Ladder Match?.. :P
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When you get hit on the ground you don't have to push anything.  ::)
Just wait awhile then push X(Fixed in 08).

I don't think that creative mode was downgraded. I think that specific elements of their previous games has been downgraded.

Here is my list:

- Actually taking someone back stage for a backroom brawl in 5 different rooms (No Mercy)

- Making the person bleed from continuous eye rake or ripping off their mask in the same way (WCW vs nWo world tour)

- Random Interfereance (Wrestlemania 2000)

- Grappling struggle when two people grapple at the same time (WCW vs nWo world tour)

- Famous wrestlers from all over the world either than the ones in WWE hall of fame (WCW vs nWo world tour)

- And finally I think the game is sexist not to allow female wrestlers go on matches either than normal or ironman.

The game and gameplay has improved since the beginning but they take too much out of the older stuff for me to exactly seeing their wrestling engine meet its full potential.
- Backstage? LOL..WWE hasn't done that in a long time.

- Wrestlers can bleed..

- Put Interfereance on in the Options' menu..

- When has a female wrestler ever been in a Ladder Match?.. :P
- unfortunately

- but not from continuous eye raking or ripping of their mask

- it doesnt come out at random though. well, not as much

- SD! HCTP and i think SD! vs RAW
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#29  December 08, 2007, 08:47:27 pm
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I know that they can bleed but in WCW vs nWo you could rip someone's mask off to expose their faces. I know it is not a necessary thing but it would be interesting to see.

A woman can't do a ladder match? I remember two people that were able to be on the same league with men:

- Manami Toyota (aka Black Widow, aka Flying Angela)

and

- Chyna

I know there are some that would say that Trish Stratus can do a ladder match but I don't really think so.

It is not a necessity for women to be in hardcore matches. But you have to agree, they deserve more than just ironman and normal matches.
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I know that they can bleed but in WCW vs nWo you could rip someone's mask off to expose their faces. I know it is not a necessary thing but it would be interesting to see.
The only masked wrestler in the game is Rey(not counting CAW)
Remember..Casey this is a WWE game. >_>

Woman in Ladder Matches = No. :P
Maybe Hardcore(Match)..though.

You can do a hardcore match with a woman..just turn off DQ in a singles match. :P

BTW..Chyna left, and Manami Toyota..has never been in WWE. >_>

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#32  December 09, 2007, 08:57:01 am
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well this game is a good topic to bring up

if u didnt, i sure as hell was going to eventually..


1 more thing about 07s loading, sometimes i forget the match i even picked and get DQed for hitting someone with a weapon.
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#33  December 09, 2007, 08:58:10 am
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ima try and contact THQ and Yukes

they need to return the Super Saiyan 1 goku hair

i gave that to most of my CAWs
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The saiyan hair has been gone since SmackDown Vs Raw.
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I dont think their going to add it back, without some how ruining it. Dont get me wrong though, I do want that hair back too, I miss being able to make a somewhat decent SSJ Goku.  ;P I would have to agree with shadow about the loading in 07 is killer, though 06 for the PSP was massacre on the loading. I can become decripted old man, die and come back, pick up that same PSP and still see that loading screen of Jimmy Hart pointing at me with that devlish smile. Now I have never really played 07 or 08 for the PSP,but am pretty sure its not any better.
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Wrong. It has been gone since 2007.
In 2006 its been there i always see CAWS online with that Hair.
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You know what? You're right 9999. I guess I got to get used to the fact that this game is a reflection of the WWE.

But still I cannot say that I am not disapointed that they didn't do more with the engine.
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But more on topic: What is your favorite Primary and Secondary wrestling set in svr2008?

Mine is Hardcore and Technical. Why?

Pros:
+ Allows me to raise hell.
+ I can heal significant damage with hardcore resurrection.
+ Weapon grapples FTW
+ Full momentum on bleeding = Makes people wish they didn't do that.
+ Reversing strong grapples when in full "health" = You can't touch me. *Cena hand movement*
+ PIT manuver = Opens up vunerable spots.
+ Irish whip fake = same thing but without moving

Cons:
- Not every match is a hardcore match.
- Would suck if I made myself bleed with hardcore ressurection in a first blood match.
- In resurrection I can be easily interrupted.
- Weapon grapples can be reversed.
- When I am not at full "health" I cannot reverse strong grapples.

But for me, this primary and secondary mix suits me well. What about you guys?
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#39  December 12, 2007, 08:49:45 am
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lol on the devilish Jimmy Hart smile joke.

But the SS Hair looked better in 06 than it did in the First smackdown vs raw.

I want them to return the old hair from HCTP, the size edits and everything. If i can edit its size, i could make Broly the Legendary Super Saiyan again like i used to.

And Super Saiyan 4 Goku, thats right, i didnt just stop at SS1 Goku.

And they took out Shao Kahn's glasses!
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The main reason i get wrestling games is to make CAWs, hell, i bought Day Of Reckoning when it came out and made Sonic The Hedgehog, Shadow, SuperSonic, Emerl *Yea i really did*, Dr.Eggman, Bison, Shao Kahn, Shin Akuma, Liu Kang and many many others without having to look at other's formulas.

Im pretty sure i made a Sonic CAW in DOR before the 1 guy did who posted videos about it. I can even make him in Wrestlemania XIX.

So ima contact THQ eventually to flame them for wut theyve done.

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Is this game worth buying???? cause Im buying 4 new games (already decided on 2..2 more 2 think about)I  mostly hear negative stuff about the game
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#41  January 02, 2008, 08:07:46 pm
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I've already said my piece here, but I will gladly do so again if it saves another person from wasting their cash (in the meantime giving more money to encourage more "refurbished" trash like this to get released over and over).  I've played this now both on PS2 and PS3, and I couldn't be more against buying this game on ANY console.  The only way I could possibly say it would be worth buying is if you've never before owned any game from the smackdown series, and for some reason it's extremely important to you that you have a game with the most up-to-date list of superstars (this would make the most sense if you're an ECW fan)... even with that said however, most of the roster itself on 2008 is still very weak for reasons I've already gotten into in this thread. 

If you're looking to buy a smackdown game, my recommendation would be to either get SvR2006, or wait for a better WWE game to be made in the future (which likely will happen no sooner or later than 2010... in all seriousness).
Last Edit: January 02, 2008, 10:49:07 pm by Bob Sagat
Re: Smackdown vs Raw 2008 for the PS2
#43  January 03, 2008, 12:13:34 am
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alrighty I WONT BE WAISTING 25 BUCKS on this game then I watched a vid review of it...it got a low ass rating and it just plain looks stupid I wish the people who made the N64 wrestling games would take over for development for 09' either that or give it HCtP controls :sugoi:
Re: Smackdown vs Raw 2008 for the PS2
#44  January 03, 2008, 12:34:26 am
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I've took the time to read all the comments about that game, even the "OMG IT SUXZ" kind of comments and here's my take.

Personally, I own WWE Smackdown VS Raw 2007 (for the 360) and enjoy it quite alot. The creation system is decent but has it's own flaws like some designs that can't even ported on xbox live (The letters and characters) but that's avoidable just by replacing them by tatoos which somewhat acts like them. Loading isn't much of a problem for me, i'm very patient and the loading online isn't that terrible. Then i've tried the demo of '08 which was and still is on the marketplace. I have to admit, the models seemed a bit better but felt completely the same. The speed like mentionned was toned down a bit which kinda pissed me off but that fixed the "skating". The fluidity of the moves are nice and smooth and I bet the creation system has been packed with more stuff. The only reasons why i'd be buying the game is for custom soundtracks for the 360 for the entrance and continuing "captain paperbag"'s legacy which started in smackdown 06.. there is also the hype i could get from the others but my greed always has the final word.

Re: Smackdown vs Raw 2008 for the PS2
#45  January 07, 2008, 04:57:51 am
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07 was one of those games where I loved the customization and hated fighting in it, you spent more time on the ground bashing keys to get up than anything, you couldnt enter female fighters into almost anything pertaining arcade modes, you couldnt pratically compete in any balanced way against the cast using someone you had created... One of the worst games I ever fought with, saving grace was really the custom engine, that was simply superb. Far better than soul calibur.

That's why all I do with SvR2006 is fight with my created wrestlers. Even used a cheat to make it detect my female wrestlers as male so they can compete in any match type.

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Re: Smackdown vs Raw 2008 for the PS2
#46  January 07, 2008, 02:38:24 pm
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What cheat is that by the way?