YesNoOk
avatar

Spring cleaning (Read 3309 times)

Started by Iced, October 08, 2009, 04:05:45 pm
Share this topic:
Spring cleaning
#1  October 08, 2009, 04:05:45 pm
  • ******
  • does this look like the face of mercy?

Attention soldiers!
Time for a general clean up!
we are gonna be revisiting every sticky, every important thread and every essential part of the help section to make sure everything is updated and in order.


A lot of info is so out of date.
Or can be updated in better ways.
This thread will be used to discuss how to upgrade those!

Bring us your suggestions, your points, your remarks. There are no stupid questions.

We also need the tools section to be finally acessible from outside means and not just through the threads.
[size=05pt]
reusing the pic, since cybaster liked it so much[/size]
Re: Spring cleaning
#2  October 08, 2009, 04:13:56 pm
  • *****
  • 癒しの天使
  • 私、どこまでやれるかわかりませんけど、頑張りますっ!
    • twitter.com/c001357
sounds good
you should clean out the recycle bin
Re: Spring cleaning
#3  October 08, 2009, 04:42:31 pm
  • *****
  • Nothing ever ends
    • Portugal
    • www.justnopoint.com/loona
I'd put the "Handy site/forum stuff" sticky I put together here from pearls from the Valodim Thread in the Information section, but who else would bother to maintain it?
Re: Spring cleaning
#4  October 08, 2009, 04:46:06 pm
  • ******
    • www.justnopoint.com/
I'd put the "Handy site/forum stuff" sticky I put together here from pearls from the Valodim Thread in the Information section, but who else would bother to maintain it?
I have been talking to ICED about making sure the stickies get maintained. That's the hardest part in maintaining a forum. Generally only 1 person keeps them up. It becomes expected and it's a very un thankful job.
Re: Spring cleaning
#5  October 08, 2009, 04:49:36 pm
  • ******
    • www.justnopoint.com/
Iced had me make this PM for him due to us chatting, and then just wanted to post it anyway XD

so here it is... Not demands...

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Re: Spring cleaning
#6  October 08, 2009, 05:45:40 pm
  • *****
  • Nothing ever ends
    • Portugal
    • www.justnopoint.com/loona
I suggested it before, here it goes again - now that there's an AI trigger in the latest Mugen Winane's AI activation tutorial no longer needs to be a sticky. It'll still be available as before, but an excellent resource as it has been, the need for it is dying down as the new versions take off.
Re: Spring cleaning
#7  October 08, 2009, 05:48:58 pm
  • ******
  • does this look like the face of mercy?
Re: Spring cleaning
#8  October 08, 2009, 06:28:16 pm
  • *****
  • Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
"Lazy staff makes the best staff."  ~ missmanners


:bow:
I think so, but isn't Regis Philbin already married?
Re: Spring cleaning
#9  October 08, 2009, 07:02:02 pm
  • ******
  • ALE ALEJANDRO
I thought that was Sepp's.
"We live in a world of perpetual outrage"
Re: Spring cleaning
#10  October 08, 2009, 07:11:21 pm
  • *****
  • Nothing ever ends
    • Portugal
    • www.justnopoint.com/loona
I think you're confusing that with the Lau Tzu quote about people barely being aware of the existence of the best rulers.
Re: Spring cleaning
#11  October 08, 2009, 07:44:29 pm
  • *****
  • TYRANNOSAURUS
    • Canada
    • mugenguild.com/mi2
well there are a handful of stickies in that "all that's left" section that could use a look at, I'll start there :-*
Re: Spring cleaning
#12  October 08, 2009, 07:58:54 pm
  • ****
  • Aka ShadesTeam/Zeckle
Shades 2 site:Shades of Manhattan
Re: Spring cleaning
#13  October 08, 2009, 08:56:36 pm
  • ******
  • Limited time to use Infinite power !
    • France
    • network.mugenguild.com/cybaster/
Re: Spring cleaning
#14  October 08, 2009, 09:37:18 pm
  • ******
  • Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.
I sticked the new mugen wiki as a way of shameful self promotion. I'm not sure if we should take down the old yet though. I'm pretty sure it is dead and buried, but until I steal that domain I suggest leaving it up. Who knows, they might come back. Here's hoping.
Re: Spring cleaning
#15  October 08, 2009, 09:38:50 pm
  • ******
    • www.justnopoint.com/
New mugen wiki should be a part of guild too. And Elecbyte. And all your base are belong to Valodim
Re: Spring cleaning
#16  October 08, 2009, 09:42:00 pm
  • ******
  • Somebody PM when Caddie is no longer a mod.
Agreed. We already took down MI and RS. Now we need to absorb Elecbyte. Then we could rule the universe as father and son.
Re: Spring cleaning
#17  October 08, 2009, 09:42:36 pm
  • ****
MUGEN Wiki is DEAD!!!!
Also, there's a shit load of tutorials that are useless. They're easy to find. Just look for the ones with all the terrible feedback.
Consider the archive for things related to the DOS verison.

Also All That's Left is fine with the 4 stickies now.

We already took down MI.
Ahem!! Who's "we", white man?
Last Edit: October 08, 2009, 09:46:26 pm by Dr. House

DM

Re: Spring cleaning
#18  October 08, 2009, 09:45:53 pm
  • ****
  • Madvillain
    • Brazil
    • www.rickiecreations.paodemugen.com.br
What about a topic that brings all the good basic tutorials around the forum? Like a guide for newcomers or something like it.
Re: Spring cleaning
#19  October 09, 2009, 04:54:05 am
  • *****
  • TYRANNOSAURUS
    • Canada
    • mugenguild.com/mi2
--Renegade Mugen was THE reason for the downfall of mi, hands down.

--winane's ai tutorial should still be stickied, as the winmugen hack is still our main mugen game and the most widely used one.
Re: Spring cleaning
#20  October 09, 2009, 05:33:59 am
  • *****
if anything winane's thread should remain sticky'd, and have a tag in the title hinting at the winmugen hack only use
"I’m never gonna grab anything by its balls, especially life. especially if life shows up in the incarnation where it would have testicles. if life showed up and had balls, the last thing I would do is grab those balls" - kyle kinane
Re: Spring cleaning
#21  October 09, 2009, 07:50:14 am
  • *****
  • DAT SAX
The sprites and sound resources thread is outdated as fuck.

                  ~*The Last Quincy*~         ~Sig by [TempesT]
My MUGEN shit:
MvC2 Tron Bonne, MvC Kim Kaphwan, Barns (Destruction Desire),
and Burai Yamamoto (Arranged)
Re: Spring cleaning
#22  October 09, 2009, 11:32:21 am
  • *****
  • Nothing ever ends
    • Portugal
    • www.justnopoint.com/loona
if anything winane's thread should remain sticky'd, and have a tag in the title hinting at the winmugen hack only use

It's not like it stopped being available and it's not hard to find.
Re: Spring cleaning
#23  October 09, 2009, 06:27:27 pm
  • ******
  • YOMI
    • www.justnopoint.com/lbends
Winane's method still works well in 1.0, just saying.
Re: Spring cleaning
#24  October 09, 2009, 07:06:55 pm
  • ******
  • Limited time to use Infinite power !
    • France
    • network.mugenguild.com/cybaster/
Yeah, and the jiggsaw method, RGB one and imageSplitter too, but they will lose interest when people will start inserting quality lossless PNG sprites in their SFFv2.
Re: Spring cleaning
#25  October 10, 2009, 12:18:26 am
  • ******
  • does this look like the face of mercy?
Re: Spring cleaning
#26  October 10, 2009, 12:24:17 am
  • *****
  • TYRANNOSAURUS
    • Canada
    • mugenguild.com/mi2
do i just delete the stuff that doesnt work? or put it as "currently down"?
Re: Spring cleaning
#27  October 10, 2009, 12:41:16 am
  • ******
  • does this look like the face of mercy?
mark it in red, so that others can verify if it can be replaced or took down, try to not delete anything without reporting here, so we can check on a path to try to provide the info again, instead of just losing it.

maybe adding maravanc tutorials there too, a link to his website.
Re: Spring cleaning
#28  October 10, 2009, 01:18:07 am
  • ******
    • Germany
    • valodim@gmail.com
A cool thing David did was make it so that the links were on the top of EVERY page in the sticky. Hound Val till he makes this a viable feature that can be used by mods if possible. If not then he would have to do that himself I think :-(

Huh? What?

Quote
Release threads be more in tune to the mentality of the users posting. Yes, it sucks that most uesers SUCK at making things for mugen. People need to get over it unless the author doesn't MIND to hear about it. No one should be forced into accepting tough love or internet feedback. Yes, when you put stuff on the net you are allowing the whole world to judge you. So what. That's the world. People should be able to feel safe in "their home" at least. And Guild should be their home. Or at least their release thread should be IMO

If they dislike a comment for ANY REASON they should be able to mute that particular comment (makes it so no one can read it) or they should be able to report it. For this I would rather the reports be private. Public reports make it so ppl will not report trivial things and cry. But here it should be allowed and promoted. We don't want the users to be made fun of for it either. When I comment on DD I try to get the temperature of the author before I start heavy criticism. The last thing I want to do is offend a fellow author.

I dunno, part of our credo is "responsibility!"

Quote
The main index of Guild needs to be redirected to another page. One where a "chosen" few are allowed access to the server.
Different versions of mugen. A huge link to Elecbyte, mugen tools, the docs, links to stickies, important news. A this just in releases. Featured releases. A database (DavidGee already has a subdomain on Guild), Val can give him access to a database and then he can make the mugen database he and [E] talked about, can get more feedback on this in the forums if Val makes it possible too.

not a problem, but I'd like to see a working version before anything goes public there.
Re: Spring cleaning
#29  October 10, 2009, 05:28:43 am
  • ******
    • www.justnopoint.com/
Quote
Huh? What?

Example

How to code a character post 1
How to code a character post 2
""
""
""
How to code a character post 89

Each of these posts are a different topic. Whether it be ripping, coding a jab, or whatever...

Now at the top of the thread is a list of links that take the users to any part of the tutorial. And the links are the 1st post on EVERY PAGE of that thread.
Quote
I dunno, part of our credo is "responsibility!"
So I should walk up to any random kid I see drawing and tear into their artwork IRL? Or critique/judge every action from every person? I don't see how it's "responsible" to allow people to merely post their works for fun ONLY. Or whatever reason they have. Even if it is just for admiration. That's how teamwork gets started at DD too. People are nice and comment on another person's work. The author looks at what the commenter makes and they start working together over time. Some people want feedback.
Users are typically not responsible enough NOT to give feedback to a person that doesn't want it. Normally the feedback actually gets harsher from there.
At DD you accept the person doesn't like feedback or you ignore them and talk to ppl that DO want feedback.
Quote
not a problem, but I'd like to see a working version before anything goes public there.
O_O
Re: Spring cleaning
#30  October 11, 2009, 04:15:26 am
  • *****
  • DAT SAX
Iced: Well for one, BMT Mugen hasn't had MvC2 sound rips in their Misc section for years now.

                  ~*The Last Quincy*~         ~Sig by [TempesT]
My MUGEN shit:
MvC2 Tron Bonne, MvC Kim Kaphwan, Barns (Destruction Desire),
and Burai Yamamoto (Arranged)
Re: Spring cleaning
#31  October 11, 2009, 04:18:53 am
  • ******
  • does this look like the face of mercy?
Know of any site that holds mvc sounds that could be used to replace it?
Re: Spring cleaning
#32  October 11, 2009, 04:41:04 am
  • ******
    • www.justnopoint.com/
This is why I wanted everything on justnopoint.com

Though if val actually gives people access to update Guild's home page then maybe the sprites resources could go on Guild instead like I always wanted.
Re: Spring cleaning
#33  October 11, 2009, 05:08:55 am
  • *****
  • TYRANNOSAURUS
    • Canada
    • mugenguild.com/mi2
justnopoint alot of the links i was looking over points to your links at justnopoint being down, you might want to check those out :P

except for justnopoint.com/tables, that's still up.

also alot of links are to i-xcell or whatever instead of piiym-net, kfm should takea look at those.
Last Edit: October 11, 2009, 05:14:17 am by momo!, the trash mod
Re: Spring cleaning
#34  October 11, 2009, 05:17:54 am
  • ******
    • Germany
    • valodim@gmail.com
Now at the top of the thread is a list of links that take the users to any part of the tutorial. And the links are the 1st post on EVERY PAGE of that thread.

I don't think we need a mod for that. There's a pagebreak every 20 posts, we have few tutorials with 20+ posts, and those that do are better off having a contents overview (with links) in every post (like davidgee's character creation walkthrough).

Quote
[ ..feedback stuff.. ]

ok, how to implement that?

Quote
Quote
not a problem, but I'd like to see a working version before anything goes public there.
O_O

means I would prefer off-site development with closed beta testing before anything goes public here.
Re: Spring cleaning
#35  October 11, 2009, 12:14:11 pm
  • ******
    • www.justnopoint.com/
Quote
ok, how to implement that?
I'll have to respond to this later. Getting ready for work. Will probably break it down in greater detail once my work weekend is over.


Quote
means I would prefer off-site development with closed beta testing before anything goes public here.
Oh I know. I just "O_Oed" because you said you wouldn't mind trying it out =p

With sprite resources and such I might need to know what kind of cap your server has for space. Could leave resources on jnp and simply have all the links on Guild if you think it would be too much on your server. More on everything else later. Will have to contact [E] and DavidGee to see if they still want to make the databases as well. And get their ideas for them, offhand I don't remember much that they suggested atm.

@ links to jnp being down...
come to think of it, I don't remember if I ever added the links to my forum in that thread or not. Probably not  XD

I'll have to organize details come Tuesday. 12 hour shifts don't leave me much time to play on the net ^^;
Re: Spring cleaning
#36  October 12, 2009, 02:26:34 am
  • *****
  • DAT SAX
TDS, just to let you know, every time I try to find anything on your site, it becomes more confusing than the last. You might want to specify that the rips and stuff are on the forum. :S

                  ~*The Last Quincy*~         ~Sig by [TempesT]
My MUGEN shit:
MvC2 Tron Bonne, MvC Kim Kaphwan, Barns (Destruction Desire),
and Burai Yamamoto (Arranged)
Last Edit: October 12, 2009, 05:58:52 am by ~*Ishida-Uryuu*~
Re: Spring cleaning
#37  October 12, 2009, 02:30:41 am
  • ******
    • Bolivia
    • www.justnopoint.com/dshiznetz
please tell me how
because theres a cpacom, snk, sammy and misc sprite section, then child boards under then.

btw, tdn?
I wouldn't consider that a infinite since you have to make your opponent bounce of the wall and if you do it on the wrong side of the stage the stage interaction would activate.
Re: Spring cleaning
#38  October 12, 2009, 02:33:07 am
  • ******
    • www.justnopoint.com/
@Luis

Looking at www.justnopoint.com you don't see anything that tells where the rips are.
And looking at the resources thread all the links still point to my actual comic page  :S
Seems I didn't update that thread when I moved everything to the forum.

I think that's what Ishida meant.

I have to update jnp.com soon anyway.

tdn = that damn nigga obviously

EDIT: When the resources page is updated it should link to the forum for great MFG convenience
Last Edit: October 12, 2009, 02:36:46 am by Just No Point
Re: Spring cleaning
#39  October 12, 2009, 05:58:37 am
  • *****
  • DAT SAX
whoops

                  ~*The Last Quincy*~         ~Sig by [TempesT]
My MUGEN shit:
MvC2 Tron Bonne, MvC Kim Kaphwan, Barns (Destruction Desire),
and Burai Yamamoto (Arranged)
Re: Spring cleaning
#40  October 14, 2009, 04:21:08 pm
  • *****
  • Nothing ever ends
    • Portugal
    • www.justnopoint.com/loona
I sticked the new mugen wiki as a way of shameful self promotion. I'm not sure if we should take down the old yet though. I'm pretty sure it is dead and buried, but until I steal that domain I suggest leaving it up. Who knows, they might come back. Here's hoping.

Since the old one is down, can't you just take it's sticky topic:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=78638.0

unsticky it, and either delete it or move to to someplace that doesn't concern the general public, like the Staff section?

It doesn't exactly make a great impression to have a sticky with a dead link in a section as visited as Releases...
Re: Spring cleaning
#41  October 14, 2009, 09:21:02 pm
  • *****
  • TYRANNOSAURUS
    • Canada
    • mugenguild.com/mi2
I started directing all of your geocities links to your jnp site loona, also can someone ask kfm/xcb about the i-x-cell links? are they hosted at piiym-net, will just changing the ixcell to piiym-net fix at least some of them etc?

edit the kong link works now changing it to blue.
Re: Spring cleaning
#42  October 20, 2009, 07:27:06 pm
  • *****
  • Nothing ever ends
    • Portugal
    • www.justnopoint.com/loona
I started directing all of your geocities links to your jnp site loona

Thanks!

I gotta try and get the stuff from VIB's site to host it, especially his paralax tutorial - I tried to contact, but got no reply so far..


BTW, the last page of the Code Snippet archive topic could use some splitting off of posts, as the thread is basically Necromancer/Flowagirl's code archive in forum thread format, but there's stuff in it it that doesn't really belong, like questions that should have been sent to the help main help section back in the day:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=43756.60
Re: Spring cleaning
#43  October 21, 2009, 12:43:59 am
  • *****
  • TYRANNOSAURUS
    • Canada
    • mugenguild.com/mi2
yeah take a look at the first page, some of the stuff on there is not on your new site :P

you might wanna check that out.

also that shared sprites thread needs some desperate cleaning. most of the older links are inactive, there are still i-xcell links and i dont think kfm reuploaded alot of the stuff advertised on there before.
Re: Spring cleaning
#44  October 27, 2009, 12:49:31 am
  • ******
  • Legendary XIII
  • I am the eye of the storm to come!
    • New Zealand
    • network.mugenguild.com/cyanide/
Dropped the old wiki thread off mugen discussion stickies. It promptly vanished from the first page. Obviously far too old to have as an important sticky, especially as it's down.


In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.
Re: Spring cleaning
#45  October 29, 2009, 01:10:19 am
  • ******
  • does this look like the face of mercy?
Re: Spring cleaning
#46  October 29, 2009, 01:20:33 am
  • ******
  • Si monumentum requires, circumspice
    • USA
    • Skype - TheToxicAvenger666

  • Online
:yes:

Would definitely keep the line from being blurred in there.
Re: Spring cleaning
#47  October 29, 2009, 03:17:54 am
  • ****
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=41715.msg391185#msg391185
Get rid of this...
Quote
Elecbyte's original website link (has been down for years, has no just reactivated!).

Replace the existing link with this one: http://www.mgbr.net/index.php?end=multi&id=131&sid=25827
Quote
Old Mugen Versions Where to go for archived versions of DOSMugen and Linux Mugen.

Dead link
Quote
http://mugen.elecbyte.com/develop.html  Also hosts own files, sffextract, and Neogouki's MakeAct.

I can't read Japanese and I'm sure I'm among the majority, so we need to be brought a little closer to the program.
Quote
MST - coding program by Tin

Remove SFF2PCX until it's found
Quote
SFF2PCX & SND2WAV - sff and snd extraction tools.  SFF2PCX appears to not have been archived.

Replace the link with this: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/home/raiwa/Game/Mugen/Diary/index.htm
Quote
ActEdit & SFF Decoder

Geocities is DEAD!!!
Quote
Mugen Intro Maker
Pallette Suite
Background Tutorial by SamusAran78
Stage parallax tutorial by VIB

Dead link
Quote
Fatality Tutorial by ChonWang

Who typed this? You should be ashamed. Needs to be re-typed.
Quote
Corrections and additions by Kitsune Sniper Retrieved from the Internet Archive, new images, CLSN values and small edits by VinnyJ
Wink Tutorial creation software
*Note: It might look correct here, but believe me the bbc is fucked up. Go to the post and see. By quoting it, I closed an open-ended url bbc.

Tell Shamrock...
Quote
http://shamrockworld.net/index.htm How to rip sprites using free software by Shamrock

I didn't go through all the forum links. There are also forum links throughout the whole post, so maybe you can rename it to Additional Forum Links.
I also didn't check through all the links that worked past Pallette Suite (Palette has too many L's).

There's also a bunch of replies within the thread that have lines through all but one or two sentences. Is that necessary, cause it looks really sloppy.

You should also add Gimp to the tools list. It's good. It's free. I like it.
Re: Spring cleaning
#48  October 29, 2009, 11:45:12 am
  • *****
  • Nothing ever ends
    • Portugal
    • www.justnopoint.com/loona
Last Edit: October 29, 2009, 11:59:24 am by Loona
Re: Spring cleaning
#49  October 29, 2009, 12:35:48 pm
  • ******
    • Germany
    • valodim@gmail.com
he never sent me the stuff, so I assumed he wasn't interested.
Re: Spring cleaning
#50  November 07, 2009, 07:58:57 pm
  • *****
  • Nothing ever ends
    • Portugal
    • www.justnopoint.com/loona
Quite a few stickies in Graphics - for example, does this still need to be on top since it's been over for a while now?