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#301  June 17, 2014, 02:31:33 am
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Well my 1st thoughts would be one of the 3 remaining SF1 characters. Geki, Retsu, and Lee. However, and don't take this as an insult You know I love you brotha! But I'd suggest you only accept commissions that are female. I'm not fully certain you'd be motivated to finish a complete male character. And to pick one you're interested in. Your work is fantastic but if you're not into what you are making your work tends to take a hit and gets slower and slower.

That being said there are a few females that need to be converted! From Ultra SF4 we still need
Poison (maybe? I'm not sure the quality of the current sprite set TBH)
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Juri
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Decapre (well this would be a cheap easy one!)
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Street Fighter EX has several females
Pullum Purna
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Hokuto/Bloody Hokuto
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Blair Dame (maybe? depends on current quality of sprite available now)
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Area
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Nanase
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Sharon
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And possibly even Lucia from Final Fight
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you should decide who you would like to make the most and then gauge the community to see who most people would want out of your selections and who all may donate.

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#302  June 17, 2014, 11:28:46 am
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Oh mangg!! Geki is one of those I would love to do someday(moveset done and all), Retsu could change from "shoto" to Shaolin(as he's a "shorinji" in the canon...let's Feng Wei-ize him), Lee however is a bit in the sleeper side, but maybe changing him into a drunken fist character could be awesome(maybe a shifting styles too? as Lei Wulong from tekken)

About the girls:
- Juri was comisioned time ago, but after my "problem" I had to leave her. It's not something I'm proud of, specially since I gave my word :(. Also, she has a fun design to work with(even those DAAAAAM details!!). It's a challenge!!
- Poison: There's something about her in the old sprites that I don't like, SFxT/SF4 design has added her soemthing new. Maybe using the old sprites for making Roxy, so we would have the Skanky Tag here too.
- Decapre: Did some tests :P.
- SFEX chicks: I hate them, except for Sharon. She could have a "Nina Williams" vibe at her moveset, turning her into something more than a Blair model swap with a gun.
- Lucia: She's a good choice, but all her moveset appears in Chun Li, Viper and some others...also, I know I could be using Kiwi's sprite as base.

In any case, if we're going for the "each game" thing, I guess Geki or one of the SF1 guys would be the choice. Mind if I change the designs a bit?(only in Geki and Lee, if case)

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#303  June 17, 2014, 11:45:05 am
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Just No Point said, June 17, 2014, 02:31:33 am
Poison (maybe? I'm not sure the quality of the current sprite set TBH)
The existing ones aren't great quality. Dampir's sprites were good for their time, but they're a bit dated now, with a lot of the attacks being edits of Alpha/Marvel 2/KOF characters.  It's also an original moveset (Knee Press, Flash Kick, Muchiko rekkas, handcuff projectile) so if the intent is to make a USF4 accurate Poison you'll definitely need a new spriteset.

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PotS Cammy's palette split has done most of the hard work for you, it's just a matter of stamping a mask over everything, maybe spriting some of her new attacks.

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Her sprite set is highly complete and good quality, but I'm sort of in the same boat as Felo, screw the EX characters.

Aside from those, it could be worth considering Comeback Techniques and Guard Break attacks for any of the female characters; they'd be relatively small and quickly completed projects for spriters while they're waiting for larger jobs.
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#304  June 17, 2014, 01:08:43 pm
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Aside from those, it could be worth considering Comeback Techniques and Guard Break attacks for any of the female characters; they'd be relatively small and quickly completed projects for spriters while they're waiting for larger jobs.
Well, he was talking specifically about wanting a commission project. I would love to assign spriters more stuff but the volunteer spriters seem to have dropped off to next to nothing =p
We don't even have Ryu's comeback technique finished :(

@Felo, between Geki and Lee go for Geki!

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#305  June 17, 2014, 07:56:07 pm
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I'd love to see your take on Geki, so I say go for him as well!
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#306  June 18, 2014, 10:05:30 pm
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Double post. My apologies.


I know that I'm not the greatest spriter in the world, in fact, I suck royally at spriting, but I'd really like to contribute to making some sprites for this project when my skills are better, since there aren't that many spriters in this project.
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#307  June 18, 2014, 10:12:35 pm
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Don't worry about double posting in this board. And we'd love to have more spriters!

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#308  June 19, 2014, 10:05:56 am
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Basically, what JnP said + if you need tips about spriting, don't be shy and let me know.

An EASY way to sprite is found here:
http://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/resizing-your-sprites-with-nearest-neighbor/

Once you resize the sprite, you just have to do minor tweaks ;)

Some suggestions(what I do when using this method):
1- don't make the sprite 3 times bigger. I do it double, that's all.
2- Don't try making the face while the sprite is double of it's size. When you resize it, things gets messy in that area. As much, just do the lines of the eyes.

Have a nice day!!

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#309  June 19, 2014, 10:21:41 pm
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Thanks Felo! I'll be sure to do that.
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#310  July 16, 2014, 07:23:06 pm
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Felo maybe this could help you get some insperation for lee and Retsu

Maybe for Lee you could use Wang Jinrei from tekken
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I like the idea of him having two fighting stance I think the tiger stance and the mantis could go well with him

For Retsu I think this Guy could be helful

And if I remeber there was a fighting game on the snes with a kenpo fighter

good luck
sorry for the necro

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#311  July 16, 2014, 08:03:57 pm
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#312  July 16, 2014, 10:46:52 pm
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Thanks for your suggestion, @City_Hunter. Also, it's not a necro, since it's not 30 days old, so don't worry. And hey! you gave some ideas for their improvement!! I once thought possible bases for Retsu and Lee and I arrived to:

- Lee: Mostly Wang, Lei and Akira(VF). Anyway, about changing stances, thought in Snake AND drunk fist.  Gen already has "mantis" and "crane"(or something like that), so...went  for the "rival" styles.
- Retsu: More than him... Retsu is stated to fight "shorinji kenpo"(shaolin kung fu), so i instantly thought in adapting him from Lei Fei(VF) or Feng Wei(Tekken).

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Well, I haven't been so active these past 3  weeks. Something bad happened in the family, so my advances in here haven't been so much, since there was a lot to attend, and so will be in this next month(now softer things, soooo I'll relax a bit). Viper is still missing 15 sprites and onec finished those, I'll colour fix her and will make a deeper CS.

So...next wip MAY be a woman. And it seems I'll have the help of an awesome spriter :D!!

Have a nice day!!

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#313  July 16, 2014, 11:03:06 pm
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Is it Judas? Plz let it be Judas.

Also, sorry to hear about the family troubles. Wish you luck on that.
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#314  July 16, 2014, 11:19:33 pm
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Thx and sorry to hear about that
family come first good luck buddy

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#315  July 16, 2014, 11:59:33 pm
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#316  July 17, 2014, 12:10:40 am
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FeLo_Llop said, July 16, 2014, 10:46:52 pm
- Lee: Mostly Wang, Lei and Akira(VF). Anyway, about changing stances, thought in Snake AND drunk fist.  Gen already has "mantis" and "crane"(or something like that), so...went  for the "rival" styles.
I've imagined him being a Yun and Yang's drunken uncle for a while so I like this idea a lot.

FeLo_Llop said, July 16, 2014, 10:46:52 pm
So...next wip MAY be a woman. And it seems I'll have the help of an awesome spriter :D!!
Looking and the "Characters who haven't current sheets" list I'm excited for any of the four possible females, but I'm leaning a bit more towards Juri or Poison.

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#317  July 17, 2014, 01:27:02 am
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Thanks for the nice words, guys, but unfortunately, it's the only unavoidable thing in life :/. Anyway, I'm fine now...So it's time to work.


- @SageHarpuiaJDJ: nope. At least, not by the moment. He has his own wips.
- @City_Hunter: thanks for the SFO remix. Even David Bazbar did an awesome work at spriting, some of them looks unfitting with other SFA/CvS style sprited characters. I thought in making a palete for Chuchoryu/Chamat's Sagat and I did it, for fitting the CvS's standar....and it looks pretty well, but we will see which Sagat will be using. As far as I know, Zero de Armentis is updating his SvC into CvS Sagat, so... *_*!!
- @Drex: About your second thinking...OR she has an un-updated sheet. Who knows!! Or the current she has is...unfitting. I won't tell a word :P, at least now :P

By the way, I'm working in Ryu's portrait and will use a Kinu Nishiimura for Chunners instead that TvC by Shinkiro. Also started a DR Cammy one too ;)


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#318  July 17, 2014, 01:37:34 am
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cool good luck buddy

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#319  July 17, 2014, 03:30:41 am
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also just a personnal preference but maybe you could use the sf4 palletes made by C-G-U for the character here some example of is work




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#320  July 18, 2014, 02:39:37 am
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Felo's comments on Lee and Retsu have got me thinking about Geki, and potential bases for him.

Essentially we've got a fairly hollow character whose only definable character traits are a teleport and a shuriken projectile. When fleshing him out I'd like to see him as a means to explore different ways ninja are treated in fighting games as a whole. Some ideas I've been mulling over are:

  • combination grapples akin to VF's Kage / DOA
  • powerful knockdown / launching normals/specials akin to MK's uppercut / roundhouse
  • some of the more generic MK ninja specials, eg. decoy punch, ninja slide, vanish, etc
  • a KI Jago-style Wind Kick

I'm not saying he should have ALL of these moves, but as a character this feels like someone who can more easily dictate the pace of battle that he wants; he can get close easy with a fast moving special, or he can send the opponent away with a throw or normal. About the only thing I'd say is necessary is an izuna drop; Ibuki already doesn't have one, and that's one ninja too many.
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