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Taybear's WIP Thread
#1  March 18, 2014, 01:13:03 am
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I'm just gonna jump straight into it.

First off, I'm updating my old Stage Bridge Of Deception

That I did what seems like forever ago.

Completely 1.1 I've redone the rain and the flare(not so well, It was my first attempt at doing it myself. I was using the old one as a reference.)

The water has been reanimated and I've done a lot of cleaning and cutting to the sky/background to make it have as little color loss as possible.(well, as far as my eyes will let me see hah)

I could really use a new bridge but I'm at a stump on that so some suggestions would be great..

Here's a comparison on the old one and the new one to show the difference (at least color loss and animation wise)

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NEW:


Also, the water animation is kinda jumpy when it restarts the loop, is there anyway (code wise) around that? (I'm experienced but it's been a long time since I've worked on a stage with more than simply tiling animations tbh.

Kinda excited about this, I hope to get as much legit feedback and help as possible.
Last Edit: October 02, 2014, 12:53:19 am by Taybear

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#2  March 18, 2014, 01:14:22 am
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Is finding MUGEN to be more enjoyable to play when you're not wearing clothes an underrated opinion?
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#3  March 18, 2014, 01:22:59 am
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Alright, I won't.

In other news.

Added more clouds and there you can see the things that fly in front of the moon

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#4  March 18, 2014, 01:53:36 am
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I think you should include a 1.1 DEF file with zoom. It's fairly easy anyway.



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#5  March 18, 2014, 02:03:47 am
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Alright, shouldn't be a problem, I'll go back and do them once I finish each stage.
Last Edit: March 18, 2014, 03:16:32 am by Taybear
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#6  March 18, 2014, 03:16:45 am
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double post blah

Well, the pit is basically finished for the most part. started on the throne room.

I'm not sure what to do with the pillars, If i had anyone who could redraw them, that would be great..

shang tsung's head follows the action (stolen code and edited sprites from a stage i had taken from one of the MKP compilations.)

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#7  March 18, 2014, 05:08:52 am
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Damn these stages bring back memories, good luck on these stages Bear!
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#8  March 18, 2014, 05:40:59 am
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those are great work u have done there :D
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#9  March 18, 2014, 03:17:22 pm
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#10  March 18, 2014, 03:21:05 pm
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Damn these stages bring back memories, good luck on these stages Bear!

Thanks man :)

those are great work u have done there :D

Thanks OG ;D

I'll release them when i finish all the stages for each game. so once I finish the mk1 stage's i'll make a release thread.
I sure be there to support you my friend :) and try all your stages :D


      Posted: March 18, 2014, 03:27:18 pm
This be great start for both zoom and super jump for the mugen 1.1 and 1.0
only need to do is extend a bit the stage and sky and this can be done with love and care
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Last Edit: March 18, 2014, 03:28:11 pm by OldGamer
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#11  March 18, 2014, 04:14:36 pm
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i actually use mortal kombat warehouse for my sprites haha.

anyway moved on to the courtyard, I'm considering getting someone to edit the part above shang tsung into a triangle type shape so it doesn't just suddenly stop idk

but it's almost done just gotta animate the monks :)


(Those white pixels are from jason todd's intro, they aren't part of the stage)



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#12  March 18, 2014, 10:36:44 pm
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ended up editing the top part above shang tsung (thanks OG)



Moving right on to warrior's shrine ;D
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#13  March 19, 2014, 12:07:53 am
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Nice!

Can we expect some random Shang Tsung clapping?
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#14  March 19, 2014, 12:23:48 am
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funny you ask, I was actually wanting to do that, but when you think about it, I would only be able to animate it to where it happens at random times rather than when something cool or a combo happens so i decided to not do it :L

but on a positive note, I finished warrior's shrine!



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#15  March 20, 2014, 12:10:00 am
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Awesome stuff Tay! :D

Can't wait for the releases. You had made a great work on it. ;)
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#16  March 20, 2014, 12:17:34 am
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Thanks G!

Just about to finish up Goro's Lair!





Last Edit: March 31, 2014, 01:42:46 am by Taybear
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#17  March 31, 2014, 01:42:54 am
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Sorry for the little silent break, I got really busy with midterms and such with school and RL stuff but I am back and about to start working on MK2 stages! :)

starting with the Armory!


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#18  March 31, 2014, 01:55:01 am
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really good to see you back also about the screenpack sorry about it been alot busy recently with school
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#19  March 31, 2014, 02:00:48 am
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all good man! Soon as i finish up with these stages I'll do my best to help you finish up the SP!
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#20  June 14, 2014, 11:00:56 pm
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So, I'm (slowly) working on Mayars CVS2 screenpack.

I've removed those preset small portraits, to give users the ability to use their own roster & portraits.

The big portraits still follow mayars. I've sorta made a template (mainly for gimp. Idk how to make templates for photoshop lel)

Check it out



(The VS and Victory look exactly the same.)

If someone wants to help out with the fonts for the main menu, that would be great.
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#21  June 21, 2014, 11:28:26 pm
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Maybe this could help ya Tay. ;)

Check here!

A work of Combone, a friend from NeoFighters Forum (from Brazil /o/). I hope that could help with the portraits template.
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#22  June 22, 2014, 12:48:12 am
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So, I'm (slowly) working on Mayars CVS2 screenpack.

I've removed those preset small portraits, to give users the ability to use their own roster & portraits.

The big portraits still follow mayars. I've sorta made a template (mainly for gimp. Idk how to make templates for photoshop lel)

Check it out



(The VS and Victory look exactly the same.)

If someone wants to help out with the fonts for the main menu, that would be great.
I have a long time looking for that screenpack but his owner never answered me,  could you send me by Pm pleasse???
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#23  June 23, 2014, 03:46:18 am
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Once I completely finish all of the portraits and do something with the font, I'm releasing it. Just hang on friend :)
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Once I completely finish all of the portraits and do something with the font, I'm releasing it. Just hang on friend :)

Great.! 90% of my characters are Cvs2,  I have Maki by Rajaaaboy, sean by Victory, nash by pots and ken by beterhans capcom style.xD you know :P
Last Edit: June 23, 2014, 04:09:04 pm by yaret
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#25  October 02, 2014, 12:55:11 am
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First post updated with details on a remake of one of my very first stages.
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#26  October 02, 2014, 06:02:41 am
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Bridge of Deception looks great! I can't wait to see it animated.
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#27  October 02, 2014, 06:11:17 am
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Thanks! I'm sure you and others will definitely enjoy the update. ;)
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#28  October 21, 2014, 01:10:04 am
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After over 3 weeks of life, Im able to work on this stage again.

What's been done:

- Made the flare layer 1 so it goes over the characters when they pass through it.

- New bridge/floor which is stolen af, it might be permanent idk. I'm not great when it comes to originality.

- Added a little fish jumping out of the water. (Idea, but if anyone has that type of anim with a more realistic looking fish, that would be fantastic.)

-adjusted some animation timings and such a bunch of minor stuff.

- added a zoom option to the code for those who want it.

- fixed super jump and such so the camera doesn't move much when characters jump.



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#29  October 21, 2014, 01:16:20 am
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i like the fish idea but it's style is clashy
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#30  October 21, 2014, 03:00:15 am
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agreed, I'm looking around for a more realistic fish. The current one is just a placeholder.
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#31  October 21, 2014, 03:43:35 pm
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The style doesn't matter, I think, just as long as the sprites blend well enough with the water and tone of the stage. Will the clouds be moving as well?



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#32  October 21, 2014, 06:06:07 pm
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at the moment no due to sprite restrictions & the fact that i really don't know how to do that without it looking weird. If i send you the current version of the stage could you look at it and possibly show me how i would accomplish that?
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#33  October 21, 2014, 07:50:26 pm
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Alright, I've tested the stage on 1.1. I can't really help you right now because I'm rendering a 3D model using PS, and it's making my computer lag like crazy. But for now, have some feedback instead!

- You're completely right about the fish sprites. They don't fit in, and you might need to look for a much more suitable replacement. I think you should ask GLB about this, since he knows a lot of Stock Footage sites. He might be able to help you out about it. Though, I don't think the stage really needs them jumping fishes.

- As for the water animation; the waves, in my opinion, look too big, and kinda kills the effect of distance and depth. I think you should change it with smaller waves that have ring shaped waves in it due to the fact that it's raining in the stage. And just to make it even more sexy, add some parallax to the water animation, so that it'll look 3D! But that's completely optional.

- The rain animation and the lens flare looks great! I think you should add two more layers of rain in the background, which shrink as each layer stacks,  to simulate distance. I think that'll look sexier than animated clouds! Also, you could probably make the lens flare animated by making it flicker/glow. (PS: I haven't checked the SFF yet, but is your rain overlay just a single sprite, but has velocity?)

- This is just super nitpicking, but I think you can still improve the look of the bridge sprite by making the far left side darker compared to the side with the sun.

- Perhaps you could add some sudden white flashes, to simulate thunder?

- Again, super nitpicking, but I think you should have the rain overlay have its own separate delta, which matches the floor's delta since it's the overlay layer. Then, if you implement the multiple-layer rain idea, you can then make them have different deltas, to simulate distance.



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#34  October 21, 2014, 09:18:36 pm
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- You're completely right about the fish sprites. They don't fit in, and you might need to look for a much more suitable replacement. I think you should ask GLB about this, since he knows a lot of Stock Footage sites. He might be able to help you out about it. Though, I don't think the stage really needs them jumping fishes.

I'm still on the fence about the fish honestly. I just wanted to give the stage a little more life. But I'm very iffy about it. I'll probably just take it out

- As for the water animation; the waves, in my opinion, look too big, and kinda kills the effect of distance and depth. I think you should change it with smaller waves that have ring shaped waves in it due to the fact that it's raining in the stage. And just to make it even more sexy, add some parallax to the water animation, so that it'll look 3D! But that's completely optional.

animating the water has been a huge hassle for me. I'm not too familiar with sqirlz and such so it'll definitely take a while to get it perfect. I'll take a look at touching it up with smaller waves and the rings. Parallax I can do, so i'll look into that for sure.

- The rain animation and the lens flare looks great! I think you should add two more layers of rain in the background, which shrink as each layer stacks,  to simulate distance. I think that'll look sexier than animated clouds! Also, you could probably make the lens flare animated by making it flicker/glow. (PS: I haven't checked the SFF yet, but is your rain overlay just a single sprite, but has velocity?)

Yes it's just a single sprite. I'll see what I can do about the layers of rain. And you mean to make two more layers that go behind the characters but in front of the water/sky correct?

- This is just super nitpicking, but I think you can still improve the look of the bridge sprite by making the far left side darker compared to the side with the sun.

Will do.

- Perhaps you could add some sudden white flashes, to simulate thunder?

Yes, that was planned. I'm looking at stages with it so i can figure out what looks good.

- Again, super nitpicking, but I think you should have the rain overlay have its own separate delta, which matches the floor's delta since it's the overlay layer. Then, if you implement the multiple-layer rain idea, you can then make them have different deltas, to simulate distance.

can do.


Thanks for the feedback. I'll do everything that I actually know how to do/have the patience to do today and I'll shoot you an update either tonight or tomorrow!
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#35  October 21, 2014, 09:45:46 pm
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@Taybear: Beautiful work, man. I can't add anything else to what Markpachi said, his feedback sums everything up. However for the fish sprites, try playing with the brightness and contrast (assuming you use Photoshop) and make it a little darker. Aside from that, and Markpachi's feedback, this stage is great!

P.S.: Are those fish sprite from Capcom Fighting Jam? They look so similar, but with even better quality than the latter's...
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#36  October 21, 2014, 10:10:39 pm
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Thanks, B.H!

The fish was some random animation i found in google image search actually haha.

I ended up taking it out because it really doesn't fit the general feel of the stage.

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#37  October 22, 2014, 04:34:05 am
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I honestly think the fish would just clash, in my opinion, due to the lack of frame animation on it.

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And you mean to make two more layers that go behind the characters but in front of the water/sky correct?
Yes!



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#38  October 22, 2014, 04:54:18 am
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Yeah agreed, i took it out.

I've also added the two rain layers put all three on different start places and gave them all different deltas and it looks really full and nice. I tried darkening the bridge, but the bridge itself is pretty big and idk exactly where the flare sits on it so i darkened the overlay layer to give the illusion of a darker bridge and since the flare is layer 1 it brightens up the bridge in that area. It looks really nice.

I also took a look at Sayain pride by noz for reference with the lightening code and he uses BG controls and i have no idea how those work :L