It is a nice info video that summarizes info, though, for the ones who haven't been updated this past week.That Ip man part was kinda cool, since I liked the Donny Yen movies.
I saw it yesterday; pretty much aligns with the info from the other interview. It does confirm that the roster will be at least in the high-30s (assuming no corporate intervention).Hopefully there's a good amount of new characters.
DKDC said, July 17, 2014, 12:13:38 pmIt's Kazumi, not Kazuki. Kazuki's a male name. The "mi" kanji in Kazumi means beautiful, so it's a female name.it was like 4 in the morning when i wrote this, i almost wrote kazuji at one pointQuoteI think the tattoo is overthinking it way too much. We know nothing practical about it, as far as we know it was there to look cool. All we know is Jin's other tattoos (face and chest) come up when he transforms into Devil, and the T3 intro shows he got the arm one when Devil attacked him, so it's more likely related to Devil than to the Kazamas, yeaNero D. said, July 17, 2014, 08:21:15 amnote it's less of a tattoo and more of a brand, jin received it from the devil spirit in the woods at the end of the ps1 t3 intro at around 19 yrs oldunless of course you were agreeing with me and refuting chosis' statement about it being directly kazama related, tho it definitely is still kazama related (i'll get to that later)Quoteand Unknown was a fucked up idea to bring Jun back anyway and it's not related to the Kazamas. Or it's just to be cool.i agree, i mostly think it was a non canon way of interconnecting the mishima and kazama bloodlines (she has th tattoo/brand) when it was all supernatural and spiritual (again, t4 retconned it into a genetic thing istead of it being directly supernatural like in the previous tekkens) also ttt didn't have a story so any of that was speculation up until ttt2 (another non canon game except for some elements)QuoteNo, old T3/TTT era discussions said the Devil Gene came from mama, and Heihachi has absolutely nothing. He doesn't have any of grandpa's stuff, he didn't corrupt anything, and Kazumi already had the full Devil thing just like Kazuya and Jin. So far there's no indication that Kazumi's powers were "pure". It's a gene, it's directly inherited, Heihachi is 100% human (he's just crazy strong with his lightning stuff, but he's human), so it's from Kazumi and it was Devil all along.heihachi is only "human" by mishima standards, but he's definitely not "human" (survived an explosion, that was definitely meant to kill him going by even kazuya's reaction)the guy killed his father, wife, tried to kill his son (twice), shot his grandson in the head, (presumably) dropped the same grandson off of a moving helicopter while he was unconscious because he was unconsciously transforming into d,evil (this may have been a strictly non canon ending, but heihachi loves canonically dropping relatives off of high places), but he didn't kill his adopted son, and as far as we know, never triedQuoteThere was no "angel powers" from Kazumi, there never was. If they even exist, they're from Jun's side, unrelated to Kazumi.Unless you mean pure in the sense of undiluted, but then it doesn't change much, Kazuya and Jin got the same gene, it wasn't diluted by Heihachi or anything. They're just both trying to control it instead of letting it control them.we don't know this yet; kazumi could very well be angel or have angel powers (even tho angel looks like a euro white woman); remember, the mishima bloodline is cursed, kazumi is a mishima by marriage, so whatever she was before, it wasn't a mishima; be it cursed directly starting from kazuya's conception (which is a pretty reasonable excuse for heihachi to try to kill his direct descendants, devil gene bad, or useless because he can't do anything with it), or from the mishima's violent pedigree (see: rock howard, cursed blood directly from geese, but his mom likely also had powers, going by his uncle, so it definitely comes from both sides), it started with the mishimas also, i said corrupted, not diluted, it's entirely possible for the mishima's fucked up bloodline to directly fuck up kazumi's bloodline's descendants (either "creating" the cursed bloodline, or continuing it)also the devil gene itself couldve even manifested directly when kaz was thrown off the cliff when before it was angellic in power before and he just doesn't remember it (this last part is mostly theory for obvious reasons) QuoteAlso I don't think Kaz got "half" and Jin got "the other half" so much as the T4 ending simply shows that Kazuya wants to absorb Jin's Devil powers simply to increase his. And it's just a figure of speech when he say stuff like "take back what's mine".yo, that's definitely whats happened, tho instead of it being transferred spiritually into jin via t3, it was inherited via his dna because t4=science/geneticsheihachi kidnapped jin (i said kazuya kidnapped jin, but i was sleepy, excuse me)final note = because the kazama clan have the power to nullify the devil gene, and jin is both a mishima and a kazama, his feathered wings may come from his kazama blood cancelling out the devil part of the transformation and partially revealing the angel side (kazumi's angel side, presumably) (also note the single white feather that drops in jin's t4 ending, i think that supports my theory) and the brand/devil jintattoos are a part of the kazama blood cancelling out his full devil transformation in general, which only fully manifested when jinpachi came back in t5"thank my mother...jun kazama" = i take this as thank her bloodline for nullifying devil gene and stopping his full urges to kill another mishima, and her inherent benevolence
I'm pretty sure Heihachi is 100% human, it's just a running joke that he's super fucking tough to kill (blowing up Honmaru). It's a big point of him that he gets to this level, enough to rival people with Devil powers, while not having anything supernatural himself.Quote we don't know this yet; kazumi could very well be angel or have angel powers... No, we KNOW Kazumi is the original possessor of the Devil Gene (not Angel, Angel was never a thing, she always was nothing more than Kazuya's "good side" to counter balance Devil back in T2, when it was still "a contract between Kazuya and the Devil", just before it got turned into a gene in T3 era). The trailer for T7 straight out says it, Kazuya was born with Kazumi's powers, and that's the Devil Gene. Heihachi wouldn't kill her if she had Angel powers, he's killing his kids specifically because of the Devil Gene, not the Angel powers. The Angel powers don't even exist for sure at this point.The Mishima bloodline has absolutely nothing up to Heihachi. Jinpachi's powers aren't in his bloodline, and Heihachi doesn't have anything. There's never been a curse on the Mishima bloodline, it's all the Devil Gene and it comes from Kazumi. That's where this "curse" started : from Kazumi, not the Mishimas. Jinpachi has nothing to do with any curse or any bloodline issue.Quote yo, that's definitely whats happened, tho instead of it being transferred spiritually into jin via t3, it was inherited via his dna because t4=science/geneticsOh, so he says he lost a part of himself when Kazuya died, and Jin got it, okay.Quote and the brand/devil jintattoos are a part of the kazama blood cancelling out his full devil transformation in general,The Kazama line definitely has purification powers, but I don't think the tattoo is canceling the transformation. Jin got it when Devil caught up with him, so it would be related to Devil, not the Kazamas. Unless you're trying to say that Devil tried to possess Jin, and the tattoo appeared to stop that just at that time, but that seems far-fetched from what we have at the moment. All we know is, Devil dropped by and branded Jin for later use, so the mark = Devil. The only possible support for the mark being a protection is Jun having it, but it's only as Unknown, and we don't know what Unknown is (she wasn't even supposed to be Jun in her first game) and she's definitely bad anyway, so even then the tattoo wouldn't be an anti-Devil protection. If anything, it's something that backfired on Jun and made her bad (Unknown) like you said could be possible earlier.By the way, the Kazamas already have their family stamp, it's that wind thing that Jin has in some of his gloves in later games (I think he has it in T5). So it'd be weird if the tattoo was also a Kazama trademark logo.
while the mishimas arent "cursed" as per the traditional definition of the term, their bloodline is extremely powerful and they do refer in game to it. Those lightning hitsparks are shown to be something related to the bloodline.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0JkFTyKG48https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_J05zUoHz0also some things i would like to point out that dotn really have a lot to do with who might kazumi be or who might not but i think are interesting.tekken 3 ending for jin didnt actually had him transform into DEVIL, as far as players could see he was transformed into Angel, down to the face marks and feathered wings. Later versions did give him the horns settling his design in a mix of both angel and devil.Angel in tekken 2 was in the intro motherly watching over kazuya. Everyone assumed back then that angel represented jun love or something
Ah, right, I forgot that Lars was identified as a Mishima through the lightning, so yeah, there's something in the blood. But as far as we know, that blood is still human, just unique and particularly strong (Jinpachi was the strongest human in the orld until Heihachi knocked him out of that position). Almost superhuman - except that aren't there a few other characters with similar supernatural-looking powers ? And still, it's unrelated to Devil, it's something they gained on their own as far as we know. Jinpachi's transformation is yet again unrelated to both that power and Devil.I didn't think Jin was turning into Angel, he had that evil aura and that boosted violence (smashing Jeihachi through the wall - granted, Hei did just shoot him in the goddamn head), back then I never thought it was anything other than devil myself. The intro showed Devil marking him for future use, then he got shot in the head, and he unleashed his evil power, it didn't seem like Angel at all to me at the time. I never thought the feather wings meant Angel.
steve as well (MAYBE), he (MIGHT) have mishima blood, but he was an in-vitro test tube baby so his "father" could be either kaz or haihachi, or a sperm spliced with either's dna (likely heihachi's, since kaz probably died when they started the process, but he was the one who kidnapped her for cryosleep in the first place) i say this because of the scar, but it could be anyone, they never elaborated on that onealso note his t5 ending where he wrecked and exploded the mishima lab where he saw the test tube baby being created (non canon ending, but it definitely tells you something about his lineage)DKDC said, July 17, 2014, 10:59:14 pm... No, we KNOW Kazumi is the original possessor of the Devil Gene (not Angel, Angel was never a thing, she always was nothing more than Kazuya's "good side" to counter balance Devil back in T2, when it was still "a contract between Kazuya and the Devil", just before it got turned into a gene in T3 era). The trailer for T7 straight out says it, Kazuya was born with Kazumi's powers, and that's the Devil Gene. Heihachi wouldn't kill her if she had Angel powers, he's killing his kids specifically because of the Devil Gene, not the Angel powers. The Angel powers don't even exist for sure at this point.yea, i know that oneangel's still up for debate tho, imo; unknown was never a thing until they finally said "fuck it, its jun", but we knew that, until they say angel is not a thing, its still entirely possible, i know kazumi has the gene that made kazuya and half of jin what they are but whether it was already the "devil gene" or not is up for debate. again imo, at least until harada absolutely invalidates angel as a canon charQuoteThe Mishima bloodline has absolutely nothing up to Heihachi. Jinpachi's powers aren't in his bloodline, and Heihachi doesn't have anything. There's never been a curse on the Mishima bloodline, it's all the Devil Gene and it comes from Kazumi. That's where this "curse" started : from Kazumi, not the Mishimas. Jinpachi has nothing to do with any curse or any bloodline issue.well, you figured this one out, but alsoNero D. said, July 17, 2014, 08:52:36 pmbe it cursed directly starting from kazuya's conception (which is a pretty reasonable excuse for heihachi to try to kill his direct descendants, devil gene bad, or useless because he can't do anything with it)the "curse" i speak of is either the devil gene (biologically); "i must put an end to this cursed bloodline, etc etc" - jin kazamaor the mishima bloodline itself (philosophically); lars tries to kill heihachi after learning he's a mishima, devil gene aside since neither he, jinpachi nor heihachi have it, they're destined to be at war with each other; Nero D. said, July 17, 2014, 08:52:36 pmthe guy [heihachi] killed his father, wife, tried to kill his son (twice), shot his grandson in the head, (presumably) dropped the same grandson off of a moving helicopter while he was unconscious because he was unconsciously transforming into d,evil (this may have been a strictly non canon ending, but heihachi loves canonically dropping relatives off of high places), but he didn't kill his adopted son, and as far as we know, never triedcursedas far as jin's wings, check his t4 ending and that single white feather that fell (that i mentioned before) and him telling heihachi to thank his mother (which i also mentioned)
Jin saying to thank his mother doesn't need to have anything to do with Angel, it just shows that he's a good guy. I'm not looking too much into the white feather.Quotei know kazumi has the gene that made kazuya and half of jin what they are but whether it was already the "devil gene" or not is up for debateNo, they already said it was it, unless they change it, but the T7 trailer supports it. It would be illogical for Heihachi to kill Kazumi if her powers were Angel, and Kazumi says Kazuya was born with her powers and it will make Heihachi go after them. It's impossible for her to be talking about Angel powers. So it's already a known fact. It's Devil powers, and since we're talking genes, it's the Devil Gene.
They might just make Kazumi devil form BE the thing we call angel so far. Just because angel and devil are fighting and stuff we shouldnt really assume Angel is "good" she has always behaved erratically in game. down to the skulls in her first ending.I mean nothing tells us that Angel has Angel genes, it might just be a transformed state for a devil gene carrier.
Well, in T2 she was supposed to be Kazuya's good side, but that stopped making sense with the gene thing. All the Tag appearances after that could be just random. Aftera while she evenstopped having any concrete connection to the Mishimas. She's just something that's there, and her design parallels Devil's. If they want to keep her she could always be retconned to having a different source altogether, like something from the Kazama family or whatever.
Call it a gut feeling but all that focus on the feathery winged hairpin makes me think they are going to give Kazumi a devil form with feather wings.
Isn't it ironic that the most ruthless and evil character does not have any affiliation with the devil? He's just an evil old man with no regard for human ties or bonds
Truth be told I think the reason why kazumi is now shown is because heihachi may be running away from his.....curse.Somewhere along the lines I believe Heihachi's arrogance and greed caused a bloodline Devil Gene curse to ignite to hunt and kill Heihachi for his sins against the world and his own family, causing Heihachi to be even colder and wanting to seal away and kill off his family for the sake of living longer and staying in rule. At the same time, the Devil Gene Catylists itself as a mere parasite, causing mass corruption within the family. Jinpachi becoming a Malevolent vengeful spirit, Kazuya Mishima to be one with the devil and eventually turn cold himself, and Jin Kazama, the one person with mix blood of Good and Evil, to be caught in the middle of it all, trying to make sense of it all and try to do his very best to end the suffering of his family by finding the source of the devil gene and destroy it.Afaik Im not sure about Lars, considering he was in Heihachi's sense a "Bastard child" so he is safe from the Devil Gene, considering he has no relation to Kazumi in any way shape and form.Tbh, I think we should wait and see if this comes on he 25th.
who cares about the mishima and kazama's tekken is all about paul phoenix the greatest marshal artist in the galaxy! i hope they'll give him a serious story this time.
YEAH! WTF IS UP WITH HIM AS A JOKE CHAR!He's the only person I know that truly had enough strength to even have a TIE with Kazuya Mishima of all people!God I loved playing as him.
I won't be suprised if it turned out that Heihachi wasn't Kazuya real father , and that Kazuya father was really the Devil this whole time.
Segatron said, July 19, 2014, 08:24:57 amThat would be weird.no not all she's a bitch whore mother anyways where the hell is she when heihachi threw kazuya off the cliff.
地獄の花 said, July 19, 2014, 06:49:36 pmSegatron said, July 19, 2014, 08:24:57 amThat would be weird.no not all she's a bitch whore mother anyways where the hell is she when heihachi threw kazuya off the cliff....dead, they are implying heihachi killed her and made it look like an accident. shes a bitch whore for being dead? What the fuck?
