Xhominid said, December 15, 2014, 08:27:54 pm...DK...rephrase your words...fast.No.It looks like you don't understand the word "portrayal". They act in a realistic way, their behavior is realistic. It fits the real world - with added gods and boxing dinosaurs, sure, but their portrayal is realistic. Apparently you just have no sense of reality anymore, as soon as we got devils and angels, you forgot what the real world was like, and what real people are like, you don't see the difference anymore between Tekken and games like BlazBlue and Darkstalkers that have magic and monsters.
i dont get how you can say that a dinosaur is being portrayed as realistic when its boxing. also i would say as a westaboo, lucky chloe is being pretty "realistic"i bet lucky chloe isnt meant to pander to anyone but harada who gets a hard on for idolmaster
SNT said, December 15, 2014, 08:45:19 pmThat's the thing with shit like this. New characters break new ground chasing after an expanded audience that's uncomfortable for traditional players, but difficult to properly articulate, so when trying to explain it you get fuckwits that purposefully avoid the point by going HURR BEARS AND DINOSAURS. Characters like Kuma or Alex weren't added / aren't kept in the game to pander to the Japanese idol fanboy market, and Tekken's existing fanbase, particularly that outside Japan, doesn't really go in for that sort of thing. They're two different kinds of "realistically portrayed" characters, and to throw Chloe in with the likes of Mokujin et al is plain ignorance at best, and willful trolling at worst. Knock that shit off.you would have a point if we had not gotten fucking alisa before.
Umezono said, December 15, 2014, 08:54:51 pmi dont get how you can say that a dinosaur is being portrayed as realistic when its boxing.Because I'm totally talking about the dinosaurs when I say realistic. Sure. Obviously.Don't be dense.Umezono said, December 15, 2014, 08:54:51 pmalso i would say as a westaboo, lucky chloe is being pretty "realistic"Uh....... You know... That's actually the exact point I was making. You know, when I said Blazblue and Darkstalkers and Bloody Roar can have cat girl demons because it fits the world of anthropomorphism or monsters but this otaku trash hits too close to home for comfort because it reminds people of the people who actually do that in real life and we hate them. Remember ?Bastard Mami said, December 15, 2014, 08:55:37 pmyou would have a point if we had not gotten fucking alisa before.Alisa did get some flak too. But at least she's in line with all the Jacks and Yoshimitsus.
we are arguing in cycles, what we are saying is that "non-realistic" is a fucking stupid way to complain, we understand why people don't like the character but saying not-realistic is fucking stupid.
Hum, no one complained that she wasn't realistic. I'm the one making the point that she IS actually realistic and that's precisely why people hate her, while not hating the obvious fantasy setting in Darkstalkers and Bloody Roar.Can't anyone keep up here ?
DKDC said, December 15, 2014, 08:48:39 pmXhominid said, December 15, 2014, 08:27:54 pm...DK...rephrase your words...fast. with added gods and boxing dinosaurs, sure, but their portrayal is realistic.what did you mean was being portrayed realistically by this, if not the gods and dinosaurs?
DKDC said, December 15, 2014, 09:01:12 pmHum, no one complained that she wasn't realistic. I'm the one making the point that she IS actually realistic and that's precisely why people hate her, while not hating the obvious fantasy setting in Darkstalkers and Bloody Roar.Can't anyone keep up here ?SNT said, December 15, 2014, 08:45:19 pmThat's the thing with shit like this. New characters break new ground chasing after an expanded audience that's uncomfortable for traditional players, but difficult to properly articulate, so when trying to explain it you get fuckwits that purposefully avoid the point by going HURR BEARS AND DINOSAURS. Characters like Kuma or Alex weren't added / aren't kept in the game to pander to the Japanese idol fanboy market, and Tekken's existing fanbase, particularly that outside Japan, doesn't really go in for that sort of thing. They're two different kinds of "realistically portrayed" characters, and to throw Chloe in with the likes of Mokujin et al is plain ignorance at best, and willful trolling at worst. Knock that shit off.
Umezono said, December 15, 2014, 09:03:54 pmwhat did you mean was being portrayed realistically by this, if not the gods and dinosaurs?The characters are realistically portrayed. Heihachi. Kazuya, fallen hero who made a deal with the devil to get revenge. Miguel. Julia, Ganryu, Wang, Xiaoyu. They're portrayed as people you might expect to come across in the street. Not like succubus Morrigan, werewolf Talbain or bounty hunter Sol Badguy with a sword of fire that all come from a world of magic.[E], you realize that SNT's post isn't supporting your point ?
they act with a sense of realism (i.e they fall when they get hit, they die when their meter runs out...etc)
DKDC said, December 15, 2014, 08:48:39 pmXhominid said, December 15, 2014, 08:27:54 pm...DK...rephrase your words...fast.No.It looks like you don't understand the word "portrayal". They act in a realistic way, their behavior is realistic. It fits the real world - with added gods and boxing dinosaurs, sure, but their portrayal is realistic. Apparently you just have no sense of reality anymore, as soon as we got devils and angels, you forgot what the real world was like, and what real people are like, you don't see the difference anymore between Tekken and games like BlazBlue and Darkstalkers that have magic and monsters.So Heihachi tossing his son off a ravine so he can get stronger is REALISTIC? Heihachi deciding to gun down his grandson because he inadvertently blew his plans out of the water is realistic? Come the hell on with that seriousness, I can say so much other shit that isn't just the Mishima-Kazama family tree being anything but realistic but you are telling me that I'm the one out of reality?I see games like Guilty Gear and Blazblue having more realistically portrayed characters than Tekken does. Freaking hell, having an idol fight in a tournament is more realistic than any of the above portrayals thus far.
Xhominid said, December 15, 2014, 10:07:07 pmSo Heihachi tossing his son off a ravine so he can get stronger is REALISTIC? Heihachi deciding to gun down his grandson because he inadvertently blew his plans out of the water is realistic?Okay for the first one it was silly.But the second one, you gotta think about the fact that Heihachi became a world superpower by the third game and was FAR from being a good guy. He would nuke a country for the Devil Gene.So yeah, I'd say gunning down Jin because he fucked up his plans is plenty realistic.Xhominid said, December 15, 2014, 10:07:07 pmI see games like Guilty Gear and Blazblue having more realistically portrayed characters than Tekken does.As ridiculous as Tekken is, get out.Leave.
Xhominid said, December 15, 2014, 10:07:07 pmI see games like Guilty Gear and Blazblue having more realistically portrayed characters than Tekken does.BRUH...
Xhominid said, December 15, 2014, 10:07:07 pmI see games like Guilty Gear and Blazblue having more realistically portrayed characters than Tekken does.on average? absolutely not
supervegeta said, December 15, 2014, 09:09:50 pmthey act with a sense of realism (i.e they fall when they get hit, they die when their meter runs out...etc)Sounds real to me.
Xhominid said, December 15, 2014, 10:07:07 pmI see games like Guilty Gear and Blazblue having more realistically portrayed characters than Tekken does.I really hope you were joking, otherwise your mental health or common sense is all sorts of fucked up.
DKDC said, December 15, 2014, 09:09:11 pmUmezono said, December 15, 2014, 09:03:54 pmwhat did you mean was being portrayed realistically by this, if not the gods and dinosaurs?The characters are realistically portrayed. Heihachi. Kazuya, fallen hero who made a deal with the devil to get revenge. Miguel. Julia, Ganryu, Wang, Xiaoyu. They're portrayed as people you might expect to come across in the street. Not like succubus Morrigan, werewolf Talbain or bounty hunter Sol Badguy with a sword of fire that all come from a world of magic.[E], you realize that SNT's post isn't supporting your point ?that's the one I am arguing against, so yeah
You can't possibly tell me you don't see a difference between Tekken and BlazBlue. And from there, that means you're just doing this on purpose.