supervegeta said, December 15, 2014, 01:15:19 pmWhats wrong with katarina? she's a badass French chick who uses Savate, and with a boobage plus!Catalina is South American. I'd guess she's from Brazil, since in one of the promo vids she was speaking in Portuguese.Or maybe it was a voiceswap from Christie, I don't know.
how about we drop the blazblue comparison and admit that on its own merits, tekken isnt really realistic at all?people like law doing the spin/flash kicks - that aint realisticthe concept of a sumo fighting a robot - not realisticmost of the realistic characters with realistic fighting styles are still doing impossible shit. ithe idea of a caporeira fighting juggling somebody midair with their legs is as fantasy as you can get
That's what I was going to say. Some characters have moves where they clearly break their opponent's bones and some move and attack in ways that aren't possible.
If you want to use that argument, not even Virtua Fighter is realistic.Don't be picky about semantics, you know very well what people mean to a certain degree whether it's gameplay-wise (A mostly grouded game with sidesteps vs air combos and air dashes) to desgins (Realistic as in, very human-like interpretations of characters vs Mori's Deviant-art level designs)
Umezono said, December 15, 2014, 11:39:57 pmhow about we drop the blazblue comparisonHow about we don't and you stop being full of shit pretending not to understand what I'm talking about
Obviously you can't compare the character designs of Blazblue and Tekken. They go in completely different directions. I guess the route of this discussion is that Lucky Chloe apparently doesn't fit in Tekken? Even though there are more outlandish HUMAN characters in Tekken than her?
Xhominid is the one who brought up the extremely dumb comparison though.Anyways, as far as her design goes, I already voiced my thoughts, she's not as outlandish as Roger, Alex, the Jacks and whatever, she is a realistic interpretation of an idol, I just think her design has some dumb-cringe worthy elements (Paws, tail) or some that feel tacked on for no reason at all (the kneepads), her design is all over the place. I feel like her playstyle (At least at first glance) doesn't bring anything new to the table either but that's a completely different discussion.
Koop said, December 15, 2014, 11:59:59 pmI guess the route of this discussion is that Lucky Chloe apparently doesn't fit in Tekken? Even though there are more outlandish HUMAN characters in Tekken than her?... No. It's the complete opposite.Chloe fits in Tekken. She seems like a regular human girl, with a realistic fighting style, as is the average in Tekken.Some people hate her.Other people don't understand the hate because there are other catgirls in other games. I'm saying those other games have monsters and stuff, so people don't complain.It's about the third or fourth time that I'm saying that I think people hate her BECAUSE she's realistic and she's just like real life people that also get hated because they act the same way as Chloe. And it's also the third or fourth time that I ask why you guys can't keep up with this. It's like you're doing this shit on purpose, pretending not to get it because you disagree. Or you don't even read but you disagree on principle and give us shit because you don't hate her and you want people to stop hating what you don't hate.
S.D. said, December 16, 2014, 12:05:28 amI feel like her playstyle (At least at first glance) doesn't bring anything new to the table either but that's a completely different discussion.I'm not surprised given that this is Tekken where they do a generational thing where movesets are inherited with characters.
I would be fine by just removing the kneepads and the paws and you probably can do that via customization. Problem is you'll have no way to fix her terrible voice acting unless Harada steps up his game and decides to get her a better VA or at least record the voice samples again, but this time with her VA putting a bit more of soul into it because so far she sounds like amateur crap.
I feel it's too early to say since there are possible undiscovered nuisances to Chole's moves (stances, movement maneuvers, etc) but given the comparisons to the Capos, sounds like a fair assessment.Tekken's characters are meant to be "down to earth" from a personality standpoint (this obviously excludes the non-human characters). They do outlandish things and have supernatural properties but they aren't caricatures of behavioral types generally speaking. I guess the idol aspect was exaggerated to give her more "character" but it just comes across as off-putting. Any real life person who tried to be similar would get more than likely get the same treatment.
Shwa link=topic=160853.msg2059339#msg2059339 date=1418677987So yeah, I'd say gunning down Jin because he fucked up his plans is plenty realistic.[/quote said:ok, maybe its belevible , but the part where Jin suvived the gunshot isn't Koop said, December 15, 2014, 11:20:48 pmI don't think there's a single fighting game that has realistic characters. Virtue Fighter series has some of the most realistic cast of characters, but guess what ?Spoiler, click to toggle visibiltyit's a boring fighting series
she looks passable with normal hands and no tail. i made this. it's a shitty photoshop and i'm not proud of it but it gets the idea through
Bastard Mami said, December 16, 2014, 01:26:08 amnow that's waifu material, but the tail was an anal plug so you can add it back.why would i want anything blocking that entry
DKDC said, December 15, 2014, 11:51:58 pmUmezono said, December 15, 2014, 11:39:57 pmhow about we drop the blazblue comparisonHow about we don't and you stop being full of shit pretending not to understand what I'm talking aboutyou are really hostile for no reason (chill the fuck out) and not worth arguing with right now. i wasnt even talking to you, i was making a declarative statement. its not always about you.S.D. said, December 15, 2014, 11:45:01 pmIf you want to use that argument, not even Virtua Fighter is realistic.Don't be picky about semantics, you know very well what people mean to a certain degree whether it's gameplay-wise (A mostly grouded game with sidesteps vs air combos and air dashes) to desgins (Realistic as in, very human-like interpretations of characters vs Mori's Deviant-art level designs)Yeah, I agree. It isnt. I feel that Tekken is pretty unrealistic in both regards. The proportions of the characters are at least humanlike and realistic, but otherwise both gameplay and design wise it feels very far fetched.
Even the outrageous characters in tekken tend to have archetypes based on martial arts or movies. She's the first that seems to portray a weeaboo and that is rubbing people wrong. Shes pretty much a manic pixie dream girl , for otakus. Foreigner punky nyan nyan girl with cat ears and genki hollow attitude.Alisa was a bait and switch, shes a old man vision of what a perfect girl is , and even she isnt hopping around going "nyan nyan".The reason Tekken Blood vengeance was hated as a movie was because it spent all its time focusing on Xiaoyu and Alisa acting like teenage girls, the only time that movie shone was when the Mishimas were trying to kill each other.Its a matter of both tone and archetypes. Tekken archetypes so far either play it safe or they play it straight, this is the equivalent of adding Norimaro to sf5 and its natural that some people get weirded out.give her some pink bangs or something and shes good to go.
