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Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#141  August 28, 2008, 01:59:46 am
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also, jason vasquez doesn't post here anymore.

problem solved?
That's because he got B&, isn't it ?
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from what I've read from Iced
(You recognize Iced has a serious grudge against me that blinds him of everything else and you use what he says as a reference about me ? ???)
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Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#142  August 28, 2008, 02:03:35 am
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OK OK I didn't want to be so blunt. We've discussed this by PM - While I no longer hold a grudge against you, I really know you, I agree with him :D It's hard to receive so much negative feedback from you about general behavior guidelines when you all those things you criticize.

If I refrain myself from posting when you and him are at it because it'd look like we're ganging on you, but really most of the stuff he says is accurate, quotable and verifiable. I guess you push many people's buttons, he's just the one who hasn't had enough headbutting with you to know when to avoid you. I know better than to start it again with you :)

At this point your persona has been discussed endlessly and IIRC you were defended only by Sepp which is pretty much enough to let you hang out around here.
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Last Edit: August 28, 2008, 02:10:46 am by walt
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#143  August 28, 2008, 02:10:58 am
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I'm not pushig any buttons. People are placing their buttons right under my hand.
And I'm fairly sure the discussions on my "persona" are well off considering that the biggest thing I've ever said on what I personnally actually really think is the "I don't even have a grudge against you, E" thing just now. Most of what I say in general is mainly translating and going between people and rewording. Yes, even the flurry on Iced back then that got him mad had some of that. So I'm sorry but most of your quotes are most likely heavy misunderstandings on your part. If you want and have time, I wouldn't mind discussing these quotes you have.
Only, a lot of you guys seem to think it's my own thoughts even when I have none. (heck, I bet you believe I'm hell bent against stealing in any form and against any kind of morons just because I say moron, or something ?)
If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.
Last Edit: August 28, 2008, 02:30:10 am by [B]yakko
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#144  August 28, 2008, 02:23:21 am
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jason's ban expired a while ago, he just posted in the tatsunoko vs capcom thread.

Bullshit. In the three years I've been here, I've only seen you admit to being wrong to ONE THING
maybe you'd like to go back some pages because i admitted that the way tehbazzard was treated was excessive and a mistake from my part for not making the process quicker
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and that was Juan Carlos's illness, and he had to fucking die before you did that.
i regret making fun of his condition as a cancer patient and justifying it because he copypasted code. that happened over six years ago and i forgot about it until i heard of his passing
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#145  August 28, 2008, 02:27:49 am
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I do have to say bringing that up is a bit below the belt.

Anyway...Titiln I just think you're a bit too impulsive sometimes, more than I can be, and can be a bit too much of a dick without seeming to realize it. Counter that or don't I'd really rather it not be.
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#146  August 28, 2008, 02:36:51 am
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Quote from: Baiken on February 03, 2008, 05:10:46 pm
Alright, so I thought that after your display of complete stupidity in your last PM I would just ignore you, but in the end I
- pieces of shit like you and PotS make those things up.
... If you had a fucking pair of working eyes,
...I say you're goddamn useless and completely dense.
... you and the rest of the staff are completely useless.
...you don't encourage the discussions that matter. You've closed yourself to any contestation, you've kept saying nothing has ever happened, you say I've never said or done anything, you twist things around, you reject every goddamn responsibilities on others, "ask Sepp", "you haven't asked anything", you're not doing anything either", as soon as there's a criticism you don't like you just close your ears and go into full flat-out denial, you completely change the subjects, you take totally irrelevant shit for arguments, you're generally completely dense and can't see anything.
...and you take the opportunity to completely ignore what's actually relevant and what actually breaks this community down.
You're just closed to what you don't like, you're not looking for any kind of understanding, you flat-out lie and just brush off things that are actually wrong as if they didn't exist, you behave like I have no reason to say all of this and you throw the fault onto other people.


Yes im pretty sure the flurry of things you told to iced were just other people opinions and you translating points.
Im sad to see you also lying besides being hypocrit.
As I said before, I wish you the best on your future endeavors but really wish you would stop caling me out so that I have to either answer to you or pass off the image that im afraid of dealing with you. I rather not deal with you, simple as that.
You are insultive and you take things to a personal level even with people that have crossed the line and done more effort for you than they needed to , in the past.
You are also not as smart as you seem to believe you are, if you still dont get why I am "mad" at you, when I have posted explanations several times, even on this same thread.

Have a nice day Byakko.And believe it or not, im not being sarcastic, I dont dislike you specifically, I just choose to not deal with someone that acts this way.
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#147  August 28, 2008, 02:41:38 am
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Im sad to see you also lying besides being hypocrit.
How does whatever I say in your quote affect any of that ? I still say you're useless and dense (I'm talking about the specific events that lead us to these discussions, here ; your general work as a moderator is fine except in the particular situations we get to discuss, such as your behavior toward Bazzard or your ehavior back then, or how you keep trying to fuck around with me because of that event despite your claims that you don't want to deal with me) and it doesn't change anything. A large part of what you quote still applies (except that lately I haven't seen PotS do anything particularly bad since the discussion that triggered this) and it doesn't change anything. And I still say that a large part of that discussion you're quoting tidbits of had some of the "rewording and explaining".
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You are insultive and you take things to a personal level even with people that have crossed the line and done more effort for you than they needed to , in the past.
Bullshit.
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You are also not as smart as you seem to believe you are, if you still dont get why I am "mad" at you, when I have posted explanations several times, even on this same thread.
I know why you're mad, I'm simply thinking it's bullshit. You tried to defend me before, at some point you did something I qualified as very stupid and so ; you're basically linking together two things that have no connection, ignoring everything else, and for that I call you dense and stupid and a liar. You feel like you got bitchslapped in the face and backstabbed by someone you tried to defend before, and you never though I could turn on you so violently after what you did for me ; you thought I wasn't as bad as some others thought, and I betrayed all your expectations more brutally than you could take.
walt says I push too many button, I say people like you push my buttons way too much. And I'm basically patient and broad-minded.
If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.
Last Edit: August 28, 2008, 03:11:14 am by [B]yakko
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#148  August 28, 2008, 03:26:42 am
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That PM quoted makes it look like YOU GUILD CAN'T SEE SHIT AND I DO! Do you really? I mean, you had your chance to "make a difference" and yet I never saw things turn out for better than where everything is right now.

Dense... I finally get what you mean after years of reading it from you as an argument. "You're an idiot, you're dense, you fail to see my point!" That's something that seems to happen a lot to you, you bump into dense people at around every corner... hasn't it ocurred to you that maybe you really aren't that clear on your explanations towards your actual points? I mean, it's really hard to disect the relevant from a post full of biased comments.

I mean, yes, I can delete phrases typed out of a violent compulsion, but then I'd be left with sentences like:

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you don't encourage the discussions that matter. Check! Worth a discussion
You've closed yourself to any contestation "Elaborate?"
you've kept sayingDisregarded - Continuously? perception is subjective
nothing has ever happened, you say I've never said or done anything never, ever, nothing- too emotional words? Validity is debatable
you twist things around, Disregarded - perception of relevance is subjective
as soon as there's a criticism you don't like you just close your ears and go into full flat-out denial, opinion
you completely change the subjects, Disregarded - Bring them back up? no, just complain about it
you take totally irrelevant shit for arguments Disregarded - perception of relevance is subjective
you [...] completely ignore what's actually relevant and what actually breaks this community down  "Elaborate?"
You're just closed to what you don't like, Disregarded - Bring them back up? no, just complain about it
you're not looking for any kind of understanding, Disregarded - opinion
you flat-out lie "where?"
and just brush off things that are actually wrong as if they didn't exist, I wonder what you guys were discussing

Really, I'd have to be completely outside of myself in a state of Zen enlightenment to ignore all that dirt.
Then I'd have to put myself in your shoes to understand your POV, your opinions, your perceptions. SUBJECTIVE.
Then! I'd have to find the patience inside me to do the excercise I juust did above.

Result. I read 10 lines of shit that'd make me angry, and you expect for me to take the higher ground of actually analyzing peacefully that which is relevant (3/4 phrases) when you didn't even make the effort of not insulting the person you've just engaged in discussion with? God! you really expect a lot! ...

... what do you offer? :-X
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Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#149  August 28, 2008, 03:31:30 am
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This really needs it's own topic.

So much history has been brought up in the past day, I feel as though I am sitting in on the Mugen Guild group therapy session.
Are you guys getting divorced?


Perhaps I just don't get as 'connected' as others seem to, but such emotions evoked from internet forum interactions?
I understand that these interactions are still real, but one can only feel as though everyone is a tad too serious.

I hope that talking things out causes people to work out their differences, rather than to cause them to leave.
Because I happen to like this community; it would really sadden me to see someone leave in such a manner.

Either way, work things out, or go back to leaving each other alone and pretending everything's ok.
Because frankly, this is troubling.
Here's to therapy.
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Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#150  August 28, 2008, 03:34:59 am
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Nah this thing started as a thread of bullshit and crying made up by it's creator so the continuation of bullshit and crying from others seems to be on topic to me.
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#151  August 28, 2008, 03:35:54 am
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That "Chill out guys" post was really long... and boring.
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Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#152  August 28, 2008, 03:38:06 am
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So much history has been brought up in the past day, I feel as though I am sitting in on the Mugen Guild group therapy session.
Are you guys getting divorced?
You're another person that's improved. You went from trying too hard to be funny to actually being funny from time to time.
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#153  August 28, 2008, 03:40:13 am
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Mmh... and here I was just about to say that was the lamest joke.

Humor, subjective, etc.
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Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#154  August 28, 2008, 03:42:00 am
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as soon as there's a criticism you don't like you just close your ears and go into full flat-out denial, opinion : the denial bit was about the discussion that was going on ; today, most of what I've said inbetween this day (february) and today is being completely ignored because of his grudge.

you [...] completely ignore what's actually relevant and what actually breaks this community down  "Elaborate?" : this was regarding what was happening back then ; the discussion where it happened had been completely warped from its original point, and he participated in it ; hence the "oblivious to the actual problem".. Otherwise, there's still the Bazzard example that dragged on for way too long. Even if Iced first wanted to keep it done and someone else went against that, a few of his posts at Bazzard really look like he's provoking him because what is being said there is never going to have any impact on him [Bazzard].

You're just closed to what you don't like, Disregarded - Bring them back up? no, just complain about it : again, focusing on that incident, always nagging everytime he had a chance despite saying he didn't want a confrontation and all, ignoring anything I've said inbetween.

you flat-out lie "where?" : back in that situation.

and just brush off things that are actually wrong as if they didn't exist, I wonder what you guys were discussing : the old stealing-bad argument about rights and ownership - that one thing that has been going on since the beginning between Guild and RS. The argument deviated at some point (from the actual stealing to discussing what the original author did), Iced participated in the deviation, it involved the something the original author did that was qualified as bad, and it ended up with that.

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Really, I'd have to be completely outside of myself in a state of Zen enlightenment to ignore all that dirt.
This is exactly what I thought when I read Iced's comments - until I said to Iced what he is now quoting. Some of Iced's comments were completely outrageous and out of touch with the original discussion, and it resulted in what I said to him.
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and you expect for me to take the higher ground of actually analyzing peacefully that which is relevant (3/4 phrases) when you didn't even make the effort of not insulting the person you've just engaged in discussion with?
Right back at what triggered my reply to Iced. Are you actually thinking I said that right out of nowhere ? o_O You know all I say is only ever a reaction to something, I never do anything by myself.

Additionally, Iced is currently fully working against whoever shows great disrespect in these situations (stealing) ; TheBazzard precisely got what he got not because he stole, but because of his behavior about it. Now I'll point out that the entire discussion the insults came up in were originally about the exact same thing. Except RS was saying what Iced is saying at Bazzard.
And before someone who is unable to read properly misinterprets this as me saying Iced has done a full 180°, I'll also repeat that this discussion had heavily shifted by the time Iced joined the discussion at RS and I replied with these insults. I did so partly because of how the original point had been completely lost (and how Iced's words were outrageous) and this is also where I say I was translating and rewording.

So I expect a lot ? I expected a lot from Iced back then. He betrayed my expectations. But I don't see posts from me that keep throwing it back in his face, and I offered a peace agreement and so. He thinks my insulting words are more important than his behavior back then, because he thinks his behavior was justified, and I think my words were justified. I took his words back then as far more insulting than you seem to think, considering you act like I'm the one who threw the insult from nowhere.
Hence my offering of leaving it behind us, and Iced keeps saying there's no way we act like it didn't happen. Well I made a big effort in doing as if he didn't say all that, and I don't see any mention of it. Am I expecting a lot of him to do the same ? But I just did that, does it mean I do more than you'd expect of me ? That I'm more forgiving than he'll ever be, is it what you're saying ?
If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.
Last Edit: August 28, 2008, 04:06:07 am by [B]yakko
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#155  August 28, 2008, 03:45:56 am
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Fuck get a room.
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#156  August 28, 2008, 03:49:39 am
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Shut up. We're explaining things.
If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#157  August 28, 2008, 03:55:13 am
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No both of you are crying about some old argument you had like 500years ago. Who cares. You guys have have brought the rest of us into this by vague accusations of Mod's and Admins not doing their job and such. When this thread was really some other guy crying about he banned and he too was trying to explain things from 500years ago.

This is Mugen it suppose to be fun. You two are trying to act like we are running some type of sowing circle.

"Oh sally you won't believe what Michael said to me"

"what did he say"

"He said mean things and hurt my feelings"

"What a big jerk we should tell everyone what an asshole he is"

Big freaking yawn.
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#158  August 28, 2008, 03:58:59 am
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You know, it would have been better if you would have just told me you don't like me right away, instead of acting nice in front of me when you wanted something
I believe that's you (Please translate me this 3dskr password)
AFAIK I've never asked for anything, and I don't "act" nice, I give respect when people deserve it. You lost it (not that you care) after trolling for several months on the channel.
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#159  August 28, 2008, 04:00:22 am
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shamrock, you suck at damage control and situation evaluation.
If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.
Re: The REAl reason why I was banned
#160  August 28, 2008, 04:08:09 am
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No both of you are crying about some old argument you had like 500years ago. Who cares. You guys have have brought the rest of us into this by vague accusations of Mod's and Admins not doing their job and such. When this thread was really some other guy crying about he banned and he too was trying to explain things from 500years ago.

This is Mugen it suppose to be fun. You two are trying to act like we are running some type of sowing circle.

"Oh sally you won't believe what Michael said to me"

"what did he say"

"He said mean things and hurt my feelings"

"That Prick gunna eat a fuckin dick!!!!!!!!! me n my homeboys the CKF and the KKK (KIssin Kung Fu MAn Klub) will teach that CRackershit cuntsucking dick Licker how we Fuck Our BOYZ in this Hood!!!"