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Things you Suck/Hate at Coding
#1  September 17, 2007, 09:52:46 pm
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I have basic knowledge of mugen coding. So, some may found this extremely easy or entertaining to do (¿¿??):

I hate all coding that has to do with binding states. I mean, it's damn tedious to have to re-run Mugen over and over again to see if that little 2 pixels you modified at the "pos" parameter looks good enough. Have to coordinate the binded foe and your own char   :S. Oh, and this leaves room for PLENTY of bugs, characters floating around, etc. Although all can be fixed, as I said, that's what I hate most (that comes to my mind, as of now).

Now, in what I really suck, fail at, can't do on my own, are mathematic expressions. The only one I know how it fully functions is "n+(random%y)". Other than that, I either have to check other characters for reference, or ask someone else :S.

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#2  September 17, 2007, 10:03:16 pm
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#3  September 17, 2007, 10:21:06 pm
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Talk about hating bind states. I'm coding Zangief :(
The other thing I hate is compiling required sprites. For me, there's where the loss of accuracy starts.
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#4  September 17, 2007, 10:23:57 pm
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I personally suck at programming individual hitdefs, it's very tedious to figure out what damage values to use, hit velocities, hitpauses, ARGH.
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#5  September 17, 2007, 10:30:51 pm
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#6  September 18, 2007, 01:59:55 am
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try to use unorthodox tools and method. you might want to treat mugen as you treat your emulated source, outputting stuff to the cliboard, or coding dinamically changing velocities and conditions. i always use a .bat file to load the file p1vsp2 directly whitout going through the select screen. i activate axis and clsns take shots anda rrange in a gfx editor, comparing source to edit.
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#7  September 18, 2007, 02:33:03 am
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I hate all coding that has to do with binding states.

As OrochiKOF97 once exclaimed, sloppy, bind alignment (especially when one is coding a grappler) sticks out like a sore thumb.  Needless to say, in the end, it pays to give throws some extra attention.
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#8  September 18, 2007, 05:28:02 am
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#9  September 18, 2007, 06:16:36 am
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i find it rather fun, especially disregarding what the char already has, and editing new ones.
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#10  September 18, 2007, 07:11:29 am
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Yeah compiling required sprites suck. And yes, throws/binding also suck.

I can't really think of anything else at the moment though.
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#11  September 18, 2007, 07:45:58 am
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Binding alignment aren't that hard when using the right tool imo, after all, they just need some time. Required sprites is indeed a bore, especially when you're going to convert a character from a game you never made before.

What discourages me, aways makes me feel disappointed with result, is one of those moves that's not really a throw, yet you'll need custom states, specifically when your character must lauch his opponent upward for a juggle (like Kim's 2qcf+K DM, Ash's grab, Vice's Qcb+P, etc). Don't known, they just end up looking wrong... even in some full games.
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#12  September 18, 2007, 09:15:17 am
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As most people, I just hate coding throws.
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#13  September 21, 2007, 05:27:08 am
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I still can't figure out how to make a guard crash state :S
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#14  September 21, 2007, 05:56:16 am
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Throws  would be my nightmare...

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#15  September 21, 2007, 07:24:52 am
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Random Values aren't really random :wall:

The hitcount is unreliable

The warning system Mugen has for when you make a mistake

The fact that Mugen has its own designated states (Like the "jump start", if its not already defined by the creator) :omg:

The fact that trying to change certain types of "get hit velocities" can become very tedious and confusing.

The fact that Mugen has "ctrl" flaws... But you'll only realize it if you make a video at 35 fps or higher, and isolate each individual frame in a check/by checking
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#16  September 21, 2007, 07:31:53 am
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Damn throws. Always hated them, always will.
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#17  September 21, 2007, 02:46:09 pm
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Throws isent so hard (Suck/hate), it does matter what kind of them, those like Kfm's is easy, and i find them entertaining to do.

Requried sprites is easy, but sometimes, its just so damn boring :no:

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#18  September 21, 2007, 09:04:35 pm
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It's impossible for me to code anything other than characters.
Screenpacks, stages... all too hard.

Characters, hah, those are a breeze. Most of the times I find it to be too easy though.  :( There's no challenge anymore. :'(
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#19  September 21, 2007, 09:49:24 pm
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Required sprites and the whole troubleshooting process. Sometimes the thing that you can never figure out is something stupid like referencing the wrong stateno or my personal favorite:

guard.velocity = 4,

Mugen isn't specific enough to tell you exactly what goes wrong, it just says your character needs to be updated. lol

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#20  September 22, 2007, 02:20:31 am
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I hate coding alot of things.. especially untouchable raging demons.  --;