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Re: Volzilla & TOPS vs RobotMonkeyHead made public for entertainment purposes.
#81  June 28, 2012, 09:54:31 am
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from what I heard at CvG Volzilla was a pretty shady dude. apparently a project called Crisis in the Mugen Multiverse (where the MMV forum name comes from) was all just a ploy for people to give their characters to Volzilla and him alone. they stripped him of his status and booted him. according to Volzilla himself they screwed him over. I don't know exactly what happened but it sems like Volzilla was in the wrong. I think the reason Volz asked you to host Duke only at MMV was so only that site could host it and so he could get his hands on it first. basically he was being a leech.


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New #82  June 28, 2012, 10:00:05 am
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I was not surprised about this, but felt inspired by your way against Volz and TOPS's demand, RMH. It's very clever. Defending your project and keeping it as private from Volz and TOPS taking what's yours to edit and claiming it's theirs. Heheh. I like that. Hope they read this to learn their lesson, or else, if they do not and keep doing their same attitude, they will get in trouble.

I heard Volz and TOPS already got banned from CVG before starting MMV. TOPS had multiple accounts there (and probably got banned for being a drama queen lol). Volz discouraged the MMV people from posting at CVG. Also, Volz is so obsessed of being so defensive and he's offended of hearing anyone's opinions.
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Last Edit: July 07, 2012, 12:42:27 pm by Enso

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#83  June 28, 2012, 10:23:42 am
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I have no personal issues with the guy but from hearing all this it's crazy. if I made something I'd wanna get feedback from all sorts of places. Mugenguild is where I started at and I'd never not host something here. I haven't made many things but I will definitely be making more as time goes on. plus I learned most of my coding from people like Cybaster, BC, Stormex-Isaiah, Cyanide, POTS, and the many tutorials found here and BC's forum. without you guys I would still be trying to figure coding out. All of you guys are awesome and I'm not done learning from you all.

for Volzilla to limit a creation to just his/TOPS forum would be wrong. Feedback here is all constructive and for those who are new and want to learn this is a good place. I have yet to release a complete character here but I will when Morrigan and Reptile are complete. and in a way SeanAltly taught me how to convert MK style sprites into CvSish style. since I've started here my spriting ability has increased. I have much love for the Guild. props to you all.

Volz I would pray that you see the error of your ways whereever you are.


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#84  June 28, 2012, 12:28:45 pm
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i just understood this topic exists because now duke nukem is a comics character

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#85  June 28, 2012, 12:43:17 pm
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Titiln said:
focus more and stop thinking about things like the internet or titties

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#86  June 28, 2012, 12:44:21 pm
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He knows that. He's just saying "Oh, so now Duke Nukem is a Comic Books character !? Yeah, right!"

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#87  June 28, 2012, 02:24:41 pm
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Oh. My bad. I think I didn't pay close attention. :omg:
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#88  June 28, 2012, 03:13:39 pm
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Snakebyte said, June 27, 2012, 11:37:05 pm
Gotcha. The problem is that our forum appears to have been using a guild account under his name for hosting, under what kind of seems like false pretenses?

We mostly didn't like it when he tried to guilt trip people into deleting their wip threads here, and started accusing them when they didn't comply. That's just greedy.

This is not the first time something like this came up with volzilla, and we probably don't even know of other instances of something like this happening - not everyone can handle this kind of situation as well as RMH.

I enjoyed that abridged thing above, +1 for that :lugoi:

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#89  June 28, 2012, 07:48:56 pm
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Here I was thinking that Volzzilla couldn't get any worse after the incident where he tried to convince the mods to give him OrochiGill's IP address just so he could ban him from CVG (at the time he was still an admin, but god knows what he was really planning to do with it). RMH, you just proved me wrong.

I can now say with utmost confidence that Volzilla is out of his fucking mind.

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Alpaca-San said, February 09, 2014, 07:44:05 pm
You limit yourself so badly when you try to avoid variables. When you get over your fear of the "complexity" of variables, you will find yourself in a better place: A beautiful world where coding is actually fun.

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#90  June 28, 2012, 07:56:09 pm
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every time you host mugen content on mediafire (or any other filesharing site) a mugen creator dies/quits the mugen forever; even if it's your own work!

and i'm sure volzilla is currelty talking with his lawyers on what should be his next course of action

Iced

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#91  June 28, 2012, 08:20:42 pm
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What they, and i mean they, both tops and vollzilla, are doing is shitty as hell.

they contacted robot and demanded the edit to be removed from guild
 
and given to them for hosting
and told him he should drop guild to become one of their private members

 
the guy accepted to go to their forum but refused to leave the guild
 

How can tops and vollzilla even think this behaviour is acceptable from them? they were using our hosting and literally depending on it while deriding us ( trying to get users to leave the guild for their own forum ).

thats just really really shitty and they are both trying to get divide the community more instead of making it grow.


This gives a really bad image of that forum
 old community rules of non sharing and cohersion. nice going with keeping some of the shittiest ideas from oldtimes.

Also:
Jmorphman tried to approach them

http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t300-heads-up-from-guild-about-your-hosting#2959

All in all I want to congratulate snakebyte on acting like anyone normal  would.

Out of the shadows of the comic book forumhood into new shadows, im disappointed.
Last Edit: June 28, 2012, 08:37:21 pm by Iced

Snakebyte

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#92  June 28, 2012, 08:39:16 pm
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Seriously?

The 'Tons of places' you can't post in are a general private forum, to keep administration stuff and drama out of the public eye, and where actual mugen stuff that we don't want to show to the public yet gets done. There are public WIP threads, and we post there when things are a bit more polished. We also throw

I'm the only one replying because we don't have a ton of people, and some of those we do have don't want to get drawn into this ridiculous drama. Volzzilla quit, and I haven't even seen TOPS on. Believe it or not, not everyone lives and breathes this shit 24 hours a day. And people are actually busy making characters. Since, y'know, some are getting released soon.

For all this cohesion you go on about, you're sure quick to insult us.

EDIT: Welp, seems like I jumped onto this right as it was posted and half of that was edited out. Fair enough, my bad. Not trying to circle this thread like a drama vulture or anything, just bad timing on my part.

EDIT: And can we try to remember that TOPS acted the way he did because RMH was editing his character without his knowledge or permission, and trash talking it repeatedly? I've already said in a few places that I and others understand that edits are fine and no longer belong to the original creator, I even flat out told TOPS I thought he was in the wrong, but it's pretty easily understandable, if not right, from where I'm sitting. Let's not turn this into a circlejerk hate parade. The team's not huge, but it's bigger than two people, and only one of those people is there now; Volzzilla left precisely because he didn't want this to negatively impact anyone else. We don't sit around in our scary private forums trying to talk about how to harass Guild members.

And I'm going out for a bit, so if I've inadvertantly sparked off more crap from coming in at a bad time, you'll have to wait a couple of hours for me to respond to it.
Last Edit: June 28, 2012, 08:49:56 pm by Snakebyte

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#93  June 28, 2012, 08:56:05 pm
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If we all reacted like Tops when someone said something bad about our content, then we'd all die from heart attacks within a week of our releases.

If we all reacted like Tops when someone edited our characters, we'd all have 5 strokes each within a week of our releases.

If we all cared about permission and warehousing, there'd be no Mugen.

There's no excuse for his reaction. Sorry. This is Mugen. His character is a Mugen character. His character is not an innovative piece of copyrighted software that is worth any trouble of defending to the point of headache-inducing drama.

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#94  June 28, 2012, 08:57:33 pm
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These palettes better make me cum rainbows when I see them.

Snakebyte

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#95  June 28, 2012, 08:58:12 pm
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Well then it's a good thing not everyone at MMV shares the same opinions or was involved, or even aware, of any of this crap, isn't it?

If someone called something I worked on crap, I'd be pissed about it. I wouldn't have reacted like that, but I'm not TOPS.

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#96  June 28, 2012, 08:59:50 pm
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You just made a post trying to justify and legitimize Tops' reaction.

There's no reason to blow up when someone calls your stuff crap. I get it all the time.

Snakebyte

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#97  June 28, 2012, 09:03:52 pm
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Justify and legitimize? No. Explain that it was the actions of one pissed dude about his character rather than an entire forum of shady evil comic forum community-dividing heretics? Yes.

Fwiw, your characters are fucking awesome and the only reason I have the slightest clue what Melty Blood is.

Taking off now, literally came back in to put mail on my desk. xD

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#98  June 28, 2012, 09:07:49 pm
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KBN22 said, June 28, 2012, 01:42:54 am
For the love of christ, hosting something on mediafire and having at most 4 or 5 warehousing sites use that link is not gonna stop people from visiting your forum. They should have just said, "Awesome edit, can we host it too?" And that would have been the end of it.
That abridged version of our discussion was f'ing hilarious.  It was like watching it in fast forward.  All the details are missed but you get the gist and it's just funny as hell.

(And yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.  If they had just said that, shit would have been more than cool.)

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#99  June 28, 2012, 09:11:51 pm
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Rajaa said, June 28, 2012, 08:59:50 pm
You just made a post trying to justify and legitimize Tops' reaction.

There's no reason to blow up when someone calls your stuff crap. I get it all the time.

I think it's safe to say that all of us have gotten this at some point in time. You can either take it for what it's worth and fix it so it's no longer crap or do nothing at all. I think you said it best though:

Rajaa said, January 14, 2009, 05:11:28 am
you learn more by testing and learning what works and what does not, that's much better than getting straight to the answer without stepping on a few stones first.

Though I'm sure Cyanide said something similar at one point in time, I just can't find it.

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Alpaca-San said, February 09, 2014, 07:44:05 pm
You limit yourself so badly when you try to avoid variables. When you get over your fear of the "complexity" of variables, you will find yourself in a better place: A beautiful world where coding is actually fun.

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#100  June 28, 2012, 09:54:44 pm
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this topic is officially past its lifecycle now, everything has been said.

Noone's actions here are really that big of a deal. We don't all have to agree on upload policies. In particular, TOPS is entitled to his opinion and can ask people not to upload his stuff, that's perfectly fine. What he can't do is try to enforce this policy here, which (unlike volzilla) he never did. So we're all good there.
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