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What is not a "True fighting game" for you? (Read 4808 times)

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Re: What is not a "True fighting game" for you?
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Re: What is not a "True fighting game" for you?
#62  February 06, 2014, 01:51:25 am
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Re: What is not a "True fighting game" for you?
#63  February 06, 2014, 02:12:37 am
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Praising marvel and hating skullgirls is kindof ridiculous by how similar their approach to gameplay is, skullgirls has strange ammounts of fanservice and way too few characters, but anyone that makes mugen content should at least recognize how much good effort was put into it.

The more it steps away from the original designer work the better it looks imo.

I mean, this looks like a way more interesting cast than what they ended up with.

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#64  February 06, 2014, 02:13:44 am
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#65  February 06, 2014, 02:17:14 am
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I will forgive the blatant stealing of Doctor Shark from Wonderella if they make that hot guy in the wolf pelt.

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#66  February 06, 2014, 02:21:33 am
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^ I think that guy won a poll for a DLC character?? IIRC, that´s what happened.

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#67  February 06, 2014, 02:23:13 am
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yes he was the fifth (? ) dlc char.

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#68  February 06, 2014, 02:27:00 am
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to actually answer the thread's question, i don't consider smash brothers and the like real fighting games, because smash strays away from the fighting game formula too much. i consider smash its own type of game. this isn't a bad thing at all, i've had a lot more fun playing smash than any regular fighting game.

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#69  February 06, 2014, 02:56:03 am
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#70  February 06, 2014, 03:06:44 am
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Iced said, February 06, 2014, 02:12:37 am
Praising marvel and hating skullgirls is kindof ridiculous by how similar their approach to gameplay is, skullgirls has strange ammounts of fanservice and way too few characters, but anyone that makes mugen content should at least recognize how much good effort was put into it.

The more it steps away from the original designer work the better it looks imo.

I mean, this looks like a way more interesting cast than what they ended up with.

Not saying that Skull Girls is not a fighting game because I don't like it, but as a Marvel player I find Skull Girls to be a game I can't really get into. The game suffers from Art of Fighting 3 syndrome (All that animation just makes everything look weak and feel off) and I don't like any of the characters. The new characters save maybe for Beowulf are not really any better at all. It's like... "You don't like that boring ass guy with dragon ball hair and a giant watch nor the kawaii stuffed animal carrying girl with a knife? We put a shark in a lab coat! Are we jawesome yet?"

Vans said, January 15, 2014, 10:25:02 pm
I'm also under the impression that people keep neglecting data from the game, do you guys know how PotS made his original characters? He actually studied every single game he referenced, down to the core. Doing this properly requires understanding how the original system was made, not just winging it.

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Re: What is not a "True fighting game" for you?
#71  February 06, 2014, 04:17:46 am
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Well to me, a true fighting game where two or more combatants face off in match until the other concedes or loses, but also:

- Has a life system where if you hit 0, you lose and are K.O'd
- Can allow many kinds of tactics from basic to advanced
.Also, no one tactic or combo/skill decides the match or game (Such as infinite combos)
- Has a balance between the characters, where some characters aren't noticeably and blatantly broken or overpowered (Unless, of course it is a hidden bonus or boss character)
- Does not rely on luck or mischievous elements to give players or characters an advantage (In other words no chance-based gimmicks)
 -Broken or overpowered elements are not playable by default

If a game breaks two or more rules than what I stated above, it is not a real fighter to me.

Off the top of my head, Smash Brothers to me is not a fighting game, it is a party game. Believe me when I say I can get competitive in Smash but in the end it's just a party game for fun. Even the creator of the series states it is a party game.

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#72  February 06, 2014, 04:25:42 am
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To me Ougon Musou Kyoku isn't a real fighter because you can still hear the defeated victim breathing when you win! What kinda shit is that?! They're supposed to be lying still and silent you worthless piece of shit game!

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#73  February 06, 2014, 04:29:06 am
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Guys, I was also joking in my previous post. If you took that seriously you're stupid.

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Re: What is not a "True fighting game" for you?
#74  February 06, 2014, 04:39:35 am
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smash isn't really a party game, unless you mean that because it's a game everybody likes to play and have fun with, in which case "party game" extends to a lot of things. rock band is (well, was) played often at parties, but it's a rhythm game. i usually associate party game with minigame collections and the like.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_party_video_games

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#75  February 06, 2014, 04:43:07 am
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Smash is more about just having fun playing a silly brawl type game and nerding out over Nintendo history and stuff really, even if its possible to make up competitive rules for it.

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#76  February 06, 2014, 04:47:43 am
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i hate the idea that smash is just about having fun because it implies games like street fighter are a goddamn pro torture instead of something you can have fun with

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#77  February 06, 2014, 05:04:21 am
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MightyKombat said, February 06, 2014, 04:43:07 am
Smash is more about just having fun playing a silly brawl type game and nerding out over Nintendo history and stuff really, even if its possible to make up competitive rules for it.

Even if the rules are mighty restrictive for the sake of balance.
Then again, Smash does have some.. "fighters terminology" in there (hitboxes, cancels, semi-comboing, etc.), so I can see why it's considered a fighting game. But at the end of the day, it's more about requiring a bit of luck to win (As in try to survive as hard as you can without getting knocked off the screen).

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Re: What is not a "True fighting game" for you?
#78  February 06, 2014, 05:07:22 am
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as far as "just for fun" thats definitely not the case cuz some competitive smash communities are fucking competitive as shit my god


also street fighter is not "fun" anymore (some people have subjective opinions over it) because of frame data
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one by one they all just fade away...


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#79  February 06, 2014, 05:12:27 am
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Yeah, frame data stuff made SF incredibly less fun to get into it. You learn the freaking frame advantage or the one frame links or you get beated & worked around very easily. Plenty of fighting games are like that.

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#80  February 06, 2014, 05:23:57 am
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Zemilia said, February 06, 2014, 05:04:21 am
But at the end of the day, it's more about requiring a bit of luck to win (As in try to survive as hard as you can without getting knocked off the screen).
doesn't that apply to all fight games then (try to survive as hard as you can without losing all your lifebar)
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