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Yun_MX by Fido released 16 - JUNE - 2011
New #1  June 09, 2011, 01:37:35 pm
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 ;D Hi again,
YUN have update!!!

report by GT Yzan, LaQuak, Lost_Avenger, druffin from MFG. Many Thanks!

1.) Zesshou 236P cant gethit in mid-air 2~ 3 times.. (AIR.VELOCITY decrease)

2.) super, YOUHOU (2424P). P2 falling cannot hitby YOUHOU (2424P) again. and also cannot hitby UC. 2626PP (MUST USE SPECIAL ATTACK between SUPER and SUPER)

3.) super, Sourai Rengeki 2626P (AIR.VELOCITY decrease)
MUST USE SPECIAL ATTACK between SUPER and SUPER)

4.) change DAMAGE DEPENDER, decrease damage

5.) CSMK  air.velocity make lower. that's mean cannot  > 623K > SCMK > 623K > SCMK >........

6.) super, 2626K have error. has correct.

7.) EX 236PP make longer then 236HP. but no change pausetime.

8.) Add some of SF4 VOICE of YUN.  (THANK LaQuak) upload sound for me!
thanks LaQuak , from MGF, Just no point Forum.

DIRECT LINK: http://www.mugenchina.org/fido/yun_mx_V03.rar


 ;D hi all,
here is YUN.
mix with sf3.3 and cvs2.. (more like cvs2, using cvs2 sprite... :P)
any problem (like any bugs) please give me message if have time.
it is a sopport for me.. ;D
ENJOY!!
MC linking, if cannot go MC. plz give me message( I find mediafire)
http://www.mugenchina.org/dzbbs/viewthread.php?tid=31549&extra=page%3D1

P.S.
yang, thawk and sagat have some correction but no upload. will upload
after AI plug in. thanks!!




THANK YOU! :sugoi:

Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 12:02:47 pm by Rajaa

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Re: Yun_MX by Fido released 06/08/11
#2  June 09, 2011, 01:45:23 pm
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bro you should move this in release section since its your character :D
imma test him out right now ^^
tnx for the release  :sugoi:
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Re: Yun_MX by Fido released 06/08/11
#3  June 09, 2011, 02:59:38 pm
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Automatically crashed with winmugen

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Re: Yun_MX by Fido released 06/08/11
#4  June 09, 2011, 03:00:37 pm
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That's because this character is made for 1.0....

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#5  June 09, 2011, 03:09:09 pm
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Re: Yun_MX by Fido released 06/08/11
#6  June 09, 2011, 04:30:31 pm
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-Zenpou Tenshin is listed as F, D, B, K it's set to D, B, K
-Saving attack needs width.
Prince Jango said, October 07, 2011, 11:45:18 pm
Yeah Titiln, in fact, You Made Him

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Re: Yun_MX by Fido released 06/08/11
#7  June 09, 2011, 04:33:47 pm
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 :???: but I can play in WINMUGEN??

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Re: Yun_MX by Fido released 06/08/11
#8  June 09, 2011, 04:41:00 pm
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GT Yzan said, June 09, 2011, 04:30:31 pm
-Zenpou Tenshin is listed as F, D, B, K it's set to D, B, K
-Saving attack needs width.


thanks GT Yzan!!   ;) I had add the "width" into stage 963,964 and 965. but havent upload now.
waiting more correction then upload again. ok? ;P

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Re: Yun_MX by Fido released 06/08/11
#9  June 09, 2011, 05:02:14 pm
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Dont reupload I found tons of stuff that you need to look at before uploading an update. I am going to make a video and show you what types of stuff I found and such.
Last Edit: June 09, 2011, 06:54:32 pm by LaQuak

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Re: Yun_MX by Fido released 06/08/11
#10  June 09, 2011, 06:42:09 pm
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I also change something.

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Re: Yun_MX by Fido released 06/08/11
#11  June 09, 2011, 11:07:52 pm
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Lol, this isnt a found release, but no biggy.

If you have Yang in in his SF3 appearance then you should drop attacks with Yang in them imo. Esp when the sprites dont match. There is a cvs2 Yang pack out there. I'll test it in a sec though.

Edit:
Feedback(unless someone posts while I edit this)
-fwd+heavy punch has a messed up palette
-dampener might need to be a bit stricter on his juggles. He can easily knock off over half a health bar with a combination of his dp+p, S.mk, qcf+lp, close hp, etc. This might just be my preference though. I'll let Laquak get his stuff in cause Yun feels odd to me.

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Last Edit: June 10, 2011, 12:43:48 am by Lost_Avenger

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Re: Yun_MX by Fido released 06/08/11
#12  June 10, 2011, 12:40:16 am
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Alright I cant do a video because I am having some techincal difficulties with my desktop so I'll just give you feedback this way.

-His name is all lower case. He doesnt have a capital letter lol.
-In A Groove since you have 3k power and supers cost 1k each. You can do 3x Sourai Rengeki, You Hou, Raishin Mahhaken and if you have Ultra stored you can catch opponent with Ultra for over 900 damage.
-You can juggle close mk -> Zesshou x3 times.
-Heavy Zesshou catches opponent all the way across the screen, but EX Zesshou does not.
-Custom state for medium shoulder has some weird clsn2 and alot of times it's hard catching opponent when they are falling down.
-Cannot link target combo -> light shoulder.
-Cannot link light shoulder -> Genei Jin.
-Very hard to link Raigeki Shuu -> Target Combo. Medium is ok but others are off.
-Genei Jin feels very sloppy and off. Sometimes the vels feel normal and sometimes its hard to do ->mk into kobokushi.
-EX Zesshou hits feel stiff while EX Senkyutai hits feel like there is too many of them.
-Ultra can use sounds on the kicking part after you spin opponent.

Well I have some good news. That worthless SSF4 AE Pack came out today which means that Capcoms sound team has graciously offered to share their Yun and Yang SF4 voice rips which I will gladly take of their hands. I love Capcom sound team, thats about the only good thing the company is good at and Mega Man.

It's cool for us because we can update our Yangs with the voice and you can update Yun also. The video I want to show you when its done is some really broken stuff I found with Yun and some clsn problems in my opinion. But it will be done later today.

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#13  June 10, 2011, 02:46:43 am
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Have you used a controller when using him in winmugen??

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#14  June 10, 2011, 03:29:47 am
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#15  June 10, 2011, 05:23:29 am
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LaQuak said, June 10, 2011, 12:40:16 am
Alright I cant do a video because I am having some techincal difficulties with my desktop so I'll just give you feedback this way.

-In A Groove since you have 3k power and supers cost 1k each. You can do 3x Sourai Rengeki, You Hou, Raishin Mahhaken and if you have Ultra stored you can catch opponent with Ultra for over 900 damage.
ans: yes.. I m changing the "damage depener". yesterday night. will upload new "DAMAGE DEPENER" . then will not make too much damage when many combo.

-You can juggle close mk -> Zesshou x3 times.
ans: U mean's MK > Zesshou > MK >Zesshou>MK>Zesshou ? have any idea about it?
because I havnt try this type of combo. let me go home try then think how to change...

-Heavy Zesshou catches opponent all the way across the screen, but EX Zesshou does not.
ans: U mean HEAVY Zesshou can fly from left to right very far. but EX shorter then HEAVY?

-Custom state for medium shoulder has some weird clsn2 and alot of times it's hard catching opponent when they are falling down.
-Cannot link target combo -> light shoulder.
-Cannot link light shoulder -> Genei Jin.
ans and qus: what is the move"medium shoulder" ? ;P is the special move ZENPOU TENSHIN?

-Very hard to link Raigeki Shuu -> Target Combo. Medium is ok but others are off.
ans: Raigeki Shuu is  mid-air 3+K. after landing then target combo? then I change light and heavy 3+K landing state.

-Genei Jin feels very sloppy and off. Sometimes the vels feel normal and sometimes its hard to do ->mk into kobokushi.
ans: U mean  MKhard to > kobokushi? (Genei Jin very hard to make sf3 style control feeling.) I see the sf3 MV. YUN using this super then combo. I cannot follow the MV to do in my EMU sf3..so.. :S
maybe I make MK more easy into kobokushi? or make the time of CLSN1 longer.

-EX Zesshou hits feel stiff while EX Senkyutai hits feel like there is too many of them.
ans: sorry limited again....EX Zesshou just 2 hits. U mean too many hits of EX Zesshou?

-Ultra can use sounds on the kicking part after you spin opponent.
ans: ok. add sound effect. ;D..easy change.

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Re: Yun_MX by Fido released 06/08/11
#16  June 10, 2011, 05:36:47 am
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Lost_Avenger said, June 09, 2011, 11:07:52 pm
Lol, this isnt a found release, but no biggy.

If you have Yang in in his SF3 appearance then you should drop attacks with Yang in them imo. Esp when the sprites dont match. There is a cvs2 Yang pack out there. I'll test it in a sec though.

Edit:
Feedback(unless someone posts while I edit this)
-fwd+heavy punch has a messed up palette
-dampener might need to be a bit stricter on his juggles. He can easily knock off over half a health bar with a combination of his dp+p, S.mk, qcf+lp, close hp, etc. This might just be my preference though. I'll let Laquak get his stuff in cause Yun feels odd to me.

thank again!
the 6HP what is the meaning of "messed up palette"..is stateno 510? I see the color of ACT look can change. no palette problem..? :???:
 I m correcting the dampener.  will damge less when combo more..

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#17  June 10, 2011, 06:13:10 am
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Hit foward and heavy punch(z). His pants darken dramatically.

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#18  June 10, 2011, 03:32:29 pm
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-Not just damage dampner. You can link 3 supers at the same time, and if you have ultra you can do ultra also. So a player can do 3 You Hou and Ultra Sourai Rengeki.
-In corner you launcher p2 in air with standing close medium kick and then do Zesshou and repeat 3 times.
-Also in corner after lets say You Hou -> Zesshou you can do 2-3 Standing Hard Punch. I would say increase corner push so Yun moves farther back so he cant chain standing hard punches.
-Shoulder, you know Tetzuan Kou or w/e I forget the move name I just woke up. F,D,DF + P. Well for Medium you send p2 into a custom state. I dont think you should because your clsn2 on that custom animation are very small and even though thats ok but just send to flying and falling animation with air.animtype = Back and fall.animtype = Back. In fact make all Genei Jin HitDefs have those parameters if you like. This way p2 goes into 5030 and clsn2 are usualy nice with those. This one is just a suggestion, you dont have to do it if you dont want to.
-You cant do SLP -> SLK -> SMP -> Shoulder -> Genei Jin and thats usualy one of Yun main Genei Jin starters. (Now this is not the best time to practise Genei Jin in Mugen since SF came out yestrday so I've been messing with that so just letting you know, my timings could be off in general since I have to re-learn in a way)
-Yes is fly from Left to Right, Heavy Zesshou hit p2, EX Zesshou does not lol.
-EX Zesshou 2 hit is very fast, I would decrease the pause just by a little so it's kind of like "duj....duj" instead of "duj,duj" now. lol
-EX Senkyutai is 4 hits and they feel weird but it's just personal prefrence. I would make it 2 or 3 hits. 4 seems too much for a EX move for that type of special.
-Oh ad I forgot to tell you. Really nice work on custom sprites and scaling SF3.3 sprites for both Yun and Yang. Very cool.
-And Zepou Tenshin command is QCB + K not FCB + K.

Layer got to it already! :)
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=130054.0
Now we can upgrade with awesome new sounds.

So did you play SSF4 AE yet?

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#19  June 10, 2011, 11:50:09 pm
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Was dive kick a level 2 cancel in CVS2? Was it a special or just a command move? The Mx system is broken and Yun is broken as hell lol. The stuff he can do is a bit... overpowered. Imo. Also, Yun AI goes to invalid state 121 from 120 sometimes. He does it while walking backwards most of the time

Does Sagat have AI? If so, you might want to make sure he doesnt do his supers while not facing p2. He keeps doing it with one of his supers(it ends with his tiger uppercut. Forgot the name). I havent updated Sagat yet, but if you can his 2qcf+p into tiger knee, the afterimages dont go away for a bit.

There, look at his pants. The sprites look nice, just need to be repaletted.

Edit: the Sagat AI wasnt and AI bug, that is just how the move works lol.

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Last Edit: June 10, 2011, 11:54:40 pm by Lost_Avenger

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#20  June 11, 2011, 01:49:39 am
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@Lost Avenger about the sprite
That attack is fast....enough (and I stretch that comment really wide) not to notice the 3s sprite transition. I mean look at dampir when he converted 3s Yang sprites to cvs format, they are noticable also but they work great.

@fido
So yes Standing Close MK -> Zesshou can you do 3x. In the corner you can follow up after each super for instance:
Raishin Makkahen -> Light Zesshou -> SCMK x3

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#21  June 11, 2011, 07:55:43 am
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LaQuak said, June 11, 2011, 01:49:39 am
@Lost Avenger about the sprite
That attack is fast....enough (and I stretch that comment really wide) not to notice the 3s sprite transition. I mean look at dampir when he converted 3s Yang sprites to cvs format, they are noticable also but they work great.

@fido
So yes Standing Close MK -> Zesshou can you do 3x. In the corner you can follow up after each super for instance:
Raishin Makkahen -> Light Zesshou -> SCMK x3

@Lost Avenger:
OIC!! is the sprite have something problem. OK. I draw and change it,. THANK!

@LaQuak
OK! I know your meaning..
Zesshou 236P I also can do x 3! so I have idea. after try in SF3.3 and CVS2 YUN. when P2 in air. then the air.vel will not so high. and X is more. so let his cant hit p2 3 times. THANKS!
Raishin Makkahen or others super... > light Zesshou 236P > then (SCMK x 3 / Tetsuzankou 623P)..
I have suggestion, if change the AIR.VEL of Zesshou 236P , then cannot hit p2 using SCMK. so solve this. I also think cant use SCMK is better. more balence.
in sf3 and CVS2, 236P when hit p2 in air. p2 AIR.VEL not so high. I will change the AIR.VEL lower.

suggestion2, if not using Zesshou 236P (after super) , but using Tetsuzankou 623P. can do 3 times.  I can change the AIR.VEL of p2state. not too fly so high.(1107/1108). so let  Tetsuzankou 623P cant hit 3 time, I test in SF3 and CVS2. the Tetsuzankou 623P just can 2 times, 1st is medium 623P. then light 623P. in CVS2. cant using 623P again if p2 hitby 623P before. because P2 fly and fall timing not enough for p1 using 623P.


change:

1.) Zesshou (AIR.VELOCITY decrease)
2.) super, YOUHOU (2424P). P2 falling cannot hitby YOUHOU (2424P) again. and also cannot hitby UC. 2626PP
3.) super, Sourai Rengeki (AIR.VELOCITY decrease)
4.) change DAMAGE DEPENDER
5.) CSMK  air.velocity make lower.
that's mean cannot  > 623K > SCMK > 623K > SCMK >........
6.) super, 2626K have error. has correct.
7.) EX 236PP make longer then 236HP. but no change pausetime.



Thanks for your careful and detail report. though my english limited. I know what are U talking..Lucky for me!1!...( I need to find a english teacher later..lazy when school life..)

you: -Not just damage dampner. You can link 3 supers at the same time, and if you have ultra you can do ultra also. So a player can do 3 You Hou and Ultra Sourai Rengeki.
-In corner you launcher p2 in air with standing close medium kick and then do Zesshou and repeat 3 times.

ans: I think if have 3000 power. is dangerous. if p2 careless. easy die.
suggestion: 2001 (2626P) the AIR.VEL make lower. let p2 falling faster. I test CVS2 using LV3. P2 is falling faster then me. so make faster falling and landing timing longer. (like CVS2)
2201 (You Hou2424P) then follow (You Hou2424P)  then follow. I think no good. I will make p1 get p2 state that cannot using 3 x (You Hou2424P).
I also can do 2626K then 623K then 2626K then 623K then 2626K then 623K. no good.. will change. these terrible combo if U not tell me, I m stupid(careless) that havent thinking before..


you: -Also in corner after lets say You Hou -> Zesshou you can do 2-3 Standing Hard Punch. I would say increase corner push so Yun moves farther back so he cant chain standing hard punches.

ans: increase corner push, good idea, and also change the AIR.VEL of Zesshou. SF3 and CVS2 not too high. my YUN is too high. (falling state)


you:-Shoulder, you know Tetzuan Kou or w/e I forget the move name I just woke up. F,D,DF + P. Well for Medium you send p2 into a custom state.
I dont think you should because your clsn2 on that custom animation are very small and even though thats ok but just send to flying and falling animation with air.animtype = Back and fall.animtype = Back.

ans: why go to customer state?
1.) test in sf3, after hit by TETSUZANKOU 623P. P2 look like falling state. but when falling hit ye p1/ P2 go to NOT falling state. if I not "get p2state". P2 just falling though hit by my normal move in air...
so just GET P2 state. Let P2 look like fall but recover if hit by P1 when "LOOK LIKE FALLING"....
I dont know how to write the state look like falling but not falling... (this kind of attack ALWAYS in SF3. but no appear in CVS2)..So I feel SF3 very deep..(I dont know how to say by my limited english..just say SF3 very great)
In fact Genei Jin SO HARD to change all hitdef look like original SF3... (CAPCOM is CAPCOM....not easy for me). Not a shadow attack. but faster animation..and different hitdef of all attack. pausetimes and velocity.
just test in EMU again and again.


you: -You cant do SLP -> SLK -> SMP -> Shoulder -> Genei Jin and thats usualy one of Yun main Genei Jin starters. (Now this is not the best time to practise Genei Jin in Mugen since SF came out yestrday so I've been messing with that
so just letting you know, my timings could be off in general since I have to re-learn in a way)

ans: cannot change. cant do SLP > SLK > SMP > Shoulder(623P). CVS2 and SF3 look like also cant do that.
and change something. Shoulder(623P) in SF3. can do Medium Shoulder(623P). > Light Shoulder(623P)..(dont know can more or not..I just try many times for test)
and in CVS2. cannot. when P2 in air falling. U using Shoulder(623P) will no playpush and go to P2 back. if in corner. also cannot. P1 have a distance. (capcom make the distance) let U cannot using Shoulder(623P) to hit P2 again.
I find research in combo MV. also cnnot found user using Shoulder(623P) > Shoulder(623P) in CVS2 . but SF3.3. so I floow SF3.3 method. but change the velocity of P2 that cannot 3 times just 2 times.


you: -Yes is fly from Left to Right, Heavy Zesshou hit p2, EX Zesshou does not lol.
-EX Zesshou 2 hit is very fast, I would decrease the pause just by a little so it's kind of like "duj....duj" instead of "duj,duj" now. lol

ans: I find the sf3. EX Zesshou (236PP) also pausetime so shrot..so make it shroter..


you:-EX Senkyutai is 4 hits and they feel weird but it's just personal prefrence. I would make it 2 or 3 hits. 4 seems too much for a EX move for that type of special.

ans: OK. it can change to 2 or 3 hit.

found bug in 2626K. had correction.

about the sound files, on satursday and sunday I m in China area that cannot go to MEGAUPLOAD. (In China area...U know the interenet.. carefull my word :-X..)!! so return to Hong Kong then download the soundfile for replacement.


Last Edit: June 11, 2011, 11:35:06 am by lifido9999

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#22  June 11, 2011, 11:07:28 am
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Fido I don't want to seem annoying, but try to use the Modify button instead of double posting.

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#23  June 11, 2011, 11:23:14 am
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#24  June 11, 2011, 11:31:54 am
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#25  June 16, 2011, 06:38:01 pm
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YUN has new update. re-release which is V03

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#26  June 17, 2011, 04:14:32 am
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I'll test in a few but those are Layers sound rips so thank him. I just had to send you those from my end because your region would not allow you to download :D From the way it looks you took care of things so I'll provide any additional feedback in a few hours.

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#27  June 17, 2011, 05:53:14 am
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LaQuak said, June 17, 2011, 04:14:32 am
I'll test in a few but those are Layers sound rips so thank him. I just had to send you those from my end because your region would not allow you to download :D From the way it looks you took care of things so I'll provide any additional feedback in a few hours.

the sound I use software make the sound volume bigger. and too many sound. I just use some of them.
I dont know japanese, and my english bad. so just use the sound I know..in state 191, 180, 195..etc..
feel the different ot big. (sf4/ sf3/ cvs2 voice.)

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#28  June 17, 2011, 06:20:06 am
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English sounds? Why is there no sound on Ultra Sourai Rengeki when he does all of those cool kicks? Thats like the coolest part. Good update :)
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