Seanatly who made my jin is making paul lol......sean made jin so perfect no one else need to bother coding him their selves.

From what I've seen, however, I can't say I know of anyone thus far. There are like 3 threads I remember seeing where certain people wanted to make Law.

But either way, I really just want him to do whatever is more in demand. Sure that's pretty dictatorial on my part, but that's just my preference. I acknowledge his right to do as he pleases.
 

Riccochet said, February 22, 2012, 06:30:30 am

You clearly don't read much then... And you must clearly be a newbie around here.. Mind pointing out these 3 threads?

Dude:

Douglass said, February 22, 2012, 05:56:09 am

Edit:
Kudos to Seanalty

I saw this both in Laharl's post where he said Seanalty was "probably" making Paul and where NB finally confirmed it. Please read my edits. I admit it wasn't explicitly clear, but I said Kudos to him specifically because he's making Paul. Read.
And in this next part, it is you who clearly don't read.

Riccochet said, February 22, 2012, 06:30:30 am

Douglass said, February 22, 2012, 05:56:09 am

But either way, I really just want him to do whatever is more in demand. Sure that's pretty dictatorial on my part, but that's just my preference. I acknowledge his right to do as he pleases.

Da fuck? You don't get to decide what we wanna make, we make what we feel like making. Creators don't make things at the demands of others.

Goddamn it, READ THE POST, PLEASE!!!!
"I acknowledge his right to do as he pleases."
I really don't want to spend my time pointing out facts to a hypocrite.

SeanAltly said, February 22, 2012, 06:13:38 am

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I told him a while back that if he made any more Tekken characters to include in my CvtW project, I would code them. I'm sure the "truth" you're going to tell him about Jin is that it wasn't perfect or even that good or whatever. It wasn't perfect, no, and I know it wasn't the Tekken conversion people were expecting. It was a conversion of the character to a 2-D fighting game environment, with mechanics based around my full-game. There's no complaint that can be leveled or revelation to be made about my interpretation of Jin that hasn't already been made. It wasn't accurate to Tekken, it was low tier, etc. Trust me, whatever "truth" you felt you needed to get permission to tell or that you felt you needed to prep us for is going to be old news, and it won't be "truth," it will be your opinion. He wants to sprite Paul, he's spriting Paul, I'm going to code a version of him for CvtW, it won't be some perfect adaptation of a 3-D character, and that's it. If he wants to sprite Law, he'll sprite him in the future.

Nope. The truth was that I didn't want to be ingenuine and make it seem as though I liked NB's spritework that much. Jin wasn't great, that's true, but I could only attribute that to the lack of frames you had to work with and the NB's recent tendency to rush jobs.
A lot of people seem to be rattled by the fact that I'm simply asking NB to do what's most in demand, but in all honesty, I really don't like his sprites. His early ones were great, but over time he seems to have gotten more time-realistic (Lazy, but for practical reasons. Spriting takes oodles of time, I know, and NB has a life.). I'm saying that my request to do what's more in demand is in fact just that, a request for him to do what's most in demand and nothing else.

C.v.s The Abstract said, February 22, 2012, 06:13:22 am

im done with this convo, i do as i please im not making law

I don't care. That's not the point.

Riccochet said, February 22, 2012, 06:30:30 am

You clearly don't read much then... And you must clearly be a newbie around here.. Mind pointing out these 3 threads?

Dude:

Douglass said, February 22, 2012, 05:56:09 am

Edit:
Kudos to Seanalty

I saw this both in Laharl's post where he said Seanalty was "probably" making Paul and where NB finally confirmed it. Please read my edits. I admit it wasn't explicitly clear, but I said Kudos to him specifically because he's making Paul. Read.
And in this next part, it is you who clearly don't read.

Riccochet said, February 22, 2012, 06:30:30 am

Douglass said, February 22, 2012, 05:56:09 am

But either way, I really just want him to do whatever is more in demand. Sure that's pretty dictatorial on my part, but that's just my preference. I acknowledge his right to do as he pleases.

Da fuck? You don't get to decide what we wanna make, we make what we feel like making. Creators don't make things at the demands of others.

Goddamn it, READ THE POST, PLEASE!!!!
"I acknowledge his right to do as he pleases."
I really don't want to spend my time pointing out facts to a hypocrite.

SeanAltly said, February 22, 2012, 06:13:38 am

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I told him a while back that if he made any more Tekken characters to include in my CvtW project, I would code them. I'm sure the "truth" you're going to tell him about Jin is that it wasn't perfect or even that good or whatever. It wasn't perfect, no, and I know it wasn't the Tekken conversion people were expecting. It was a conversion of the character to a 2-D fighting game environment, with mechanics based around my full-game. There's no complaint that can be leveled or revelation to be made about my interpretation of Jin that hasn't already been made. It wasn't accurate to Tekken, it was low tier, etc. Trust me, whatever "truth" you felt you needed to get permission to tell or that you felt you needed to prep us for is going to be old news, and it won't be "truth," it will be your opinion. He wants to sprite Paul, he's spriting Paul, I'm going to code a version of him for CvtW, it won't be some perfect adaptation of a 3-D character, and that's it. If he wants to sprite Law, he'll sprite him in the future.

Nope. The truth was that I didn't want to be ingenuine and make it seem as though I liked NB's spritework that much. Jin wasn't great, that's true, but I could only attribute that to the lack of frames you had to work with and the NB's recent tendency to rush jobs.
A lot of people seem to be rattled by the fact that I'm simply asking NB to do what's most in demand, but in all honesty, I really don't like his sprites. His early ones were great, but over time he seems to have gotten more time-realistic (Lazy, but for practical reasons. Spriting takes oodles of time, I know, and NB has a life.). I'm saying that my request to do what's more in demand is in fact just that, a request for him to do what's most in demand and nothing else.

C.v.s The Abstract said, February 22, 2012, 06:13:22 am

im done with this convo, i do as i please im not making law

I don't care. That's not the point.

cvsnb i have to agree that ur jin was a rushed job.. but it came out great.. and with seeing ur new sprites i look forward to ur paul and asuka.. but douglass u really can't just say yeah there was a thread saying such and such wanting law .. who cares.. Law will come EVENTUALLY u do know there is a tekken mugen project going on.. its just not advertised here. so be patient.. infact all the tekken casts will be available EVENTUALLY.. spriting takes time.

look at my signature there is a future jin and hwo in the works.. along with Heihachi, Paul and Yoshimitsu.. now if CVSNB wants to join this project and combine his work on paul or they can use his paul with his permission of course thats his choice.

I really don't see what point you were trying to make in the first place. I mean, I understand what you're saying and you have a right to say it, but I don't understand why you bothered. Your posts can only be taken a certain number of ways. Your first posts were a bit out of line, coming into a spriter's threads and basically saying he's wasting his time making a character because of what you perceive to be a lack of interest. Trust me, there is not lack of interest in Tekken conversions in Mugen, from the most popular to the least popular characters in the series. Then, when you were rebuffed, you started saying you didn't like his sprites and that you think he's gotten lazy. Fine, that's your opinion, but it can really only be taken negatively and the fact that you mentioned it so late just makes it look like you're going on the offensive since he won't sprite what you want. I think you should probably just cut your losses here, because whether you meant to or not, all you've accomplished is rubbing people the wrong way.

I really don't see what point you were trying to make in the first place. I mean, I understand what you're saying and you have a right to say it, but I don't understand why you bothered. Your posts can only be taken a certain number of ways. Your first posts were a bit out of line, coming into a spriter's threads and basically saying he's wasting his time making a character because of what you perceive to be a lack of interest. Trust me, there is not lack of interest in Tekken conversions in Mugen, from the most popular to the least popular characters in the series. Then, when you were rebuffed, you started saying you didn't like his sprites and that you think he's gotten lazy. Fine, that's your opinion, but it can really only be taken negatively and the fact that you mentioned it so late just makes it look like you're going on the offensive since he won't sprite what you want. I think you should probably just cut your losses here, because whether you meant to or not, all you've accomplished is rubbing people the wrong way.

Douglass said, February 22, 2012, 06:55:54 am

I really don't want to spend my time pointing out facts to a hypocrite.

Only one around here my dude, and that's you.