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Volzilla & TOPS vs RobotMonkeyHead made public for entertainment purposes.  (Read 11689 times)

Started by RobotMonkeyHead, June 27, 2012, 01:22:28 am
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#21  June 27, 2012, 02:52:19 am
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I just noticed this, and while there are staggering amounts of dumb things said by vozilla and TOPS, I want to highlight one of them.
TOPS said:
yea I do so what? you put them on mediafire. come on man get with it most mugen forums don't allow you to be hosing your stuff on fileshareing websites, we are like that cvg is like, scruffy was like that. you spend to much time on the guild.
This is complete and utter bullshit. I mean, what the fuck? How the hell are people even supposed to start out if not for file sharing sites like Mediafire?

And no, the vast majority of MUGEN sites don't have any problems with hosting your stuff on filesharing sites. In fact it's probably only the three he mentioned that don't allow it. And that's one of the reasons why they're not very good sites.

Yeah you know making the community smaller is the reason I wasn't going to mention any of this to begin with...  Do you think I should take this thread down?  I don't want to negatively impact the community, but I do wonder if i'm not just putting a sign post by a land mine here.  What do you think?
You have done absolutely nothing to hurt the community. It's those two, vozilla and TOPS, who have. They're stuck in some bizarro world universe where everyone but the meanies over at Guild follow some twisted version of the old rules. These guys are doing the same thing KFM and his cronies were doing and have brought about the same end result: the community becomes fractured and less open, harming it severely.

At least we can take solace in the fact that sites that do shit like that don't last. It's why RandomSelect went the way of the dodo.
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#22  June 27, 2012, 02:52:40 am
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Robot you didnt handle it badly, dont think im implying you did, its like what Val said.
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#23  June 27, 2012, 02:56:50 am
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Robot you didnt handle it badly, dont think im implying you did, its like what Val said.
oh no, i didn't think u were implicating me.  sorry for the confusions,  i was just looking at myself and volz through the same lens, and trying to correct myself for my own sake.  I know you didn't mean anything towards me by that at all, and thanks for that.  again sorry for any confusion  ;)

On a different note, I tend to modify my posts a lot.  Does that cause anyone's email to flood?
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#24  June 27, 2012, 02:58:02 am
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nice meme post m8

i am sorry you had to go through all this bullshit, rmh, but at the same time i am happy you handled it well. good job and fuck volzilla forever. fuck his stupid ass.
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#25  June 27, 2012, 03:05:52 am
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Minor and recent update to end of story in first few posts.

One of the founding tenets when guild switched was that "Once something is on the internet it is public and we are not going to police it"

Your work is up, it will be hosted. I have loads of files sitting on that ucoz site, in fact i bet many people do. I can't stop them, why should i try. The work is on MY site as well. When i update people will have to go to MY site first, things like ucoz are past that point when people are just randomly searching, however if my work is publicised properly by me, they won't use that stuff.

You can't control the internet, you really really can't control what other people do, and mediafire is a perfectly valid hosting method if you don't have your own hosting.

Man, I couldn't agree with you more. 

To add something too, as long as you're readme's link to your site with a note that says something like 'for the latest updated version of this character and more work by this author go to www.here.com", all that hosting just serves as free advertising anyway.   8)


I just noticed this, and while there are staggering amounts of dumb things said by vozilla and TOPS, I want to highlight one of them.
TOPS said:
yea I do so what? you put them on mediafire. come on man get with it most mugen forums don't allow you to be hosing your stuff on fileshareing websites, we are like that cvg is like, scruffy was like that. you spend to much time on the guild.
This is complete and utter bullshit. I mean, what the fuck? How the hell are people even supposed to start out if not for file sharing sites like Mediafire?

And no, the vast majority of MUGEN sites don't have any problems with hosting your stuff on filesharing sites. In fact it's probably only the three he mentioned that don't allow it. And that's one of the reasons why they're not very good sites.

good to know, I did kinda wonder about that one.

You have done absolutely nothing to hurt the community. It's those two, vozilla and TOPS, who have. They're stuck in some bizarro world universe where everyone but the meanies over at Guild follow some twisted version of the old rules. These guys are doing the same thing KFM and his cronies were doing and have brought about the same end result: the community becomes fractured and less open, harming it severely.

At least we can take solace in the fact that sites that do shit like that don't last. It's why RandomSelect went the way of the dodo.
Thanx man,  I sent him a link to this thread too, so maybe he will read it and learn a thing or two.
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#26  June 27, 2012, 03:11:51 am
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Goddamn!! I tried reading a 1/3 of this thoroughly, then Volzilla's lengthy rambling made my head hurt.

In a nutshell, if you're being open stating you are editing a character and claiming so on multiple forums to gather attention, what's the problem?? The sensativity that is being displayed here reminds me of Infinity and their similar stance. Like the whole Kong or Acey's Rogue debate.

Keep on editing and learning while being cool about it. I see absolutely nothing wrong with your edits whatsoever.
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#27  June 27, 2012, 03:14:55 am
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when editing posts, if its something anyone that might have read the said posts would likely want to read, you are better off adding a new post since people arent likely to re read such a long post.
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#28  June 27, 2012, 03:23:59 am
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Goddamn!! I tried reading a 1/3 of this thoroughly, then Volzilla's lengthy rambling made my head hurt.

In a nutshell, if you're being open stating you are editing a character and claiming so on multiple forums to gather attention, what's the problem?? The sensativity that is being displayed here reminds me of Infinity and their similar stance. Like the whole Kong or Acey's Rogue debate.

Keep on editing and learning while being cool about it. I see absolutely nothing wrong with your edits whatsoever.

yeah it's a long one I know.  I was thinking that when I posted it, like is anyone actually going to read this whole thing?  About the other stuff,  I'm relatively new to the community, so I don't really know anything about infinity.  I do know that for a little while you had to contribute something to get king kong tho, and that seemed a little wacky to me. 
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#29  June 27, 2012, 05:01:03 am
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nothing wrong with the way you handled the whole shit imo, seriously tired of their views on mugen in general and how "things should be done": fuck them (and fuck orochigill while i'm at it)
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#30  June 27, 2012, 05:02:50 am
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I think we should let Orochi Gill rest after all those countless fucks.
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#31  June 27, 2012, 05:08:55 am
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#32  June 27, 2012, 06:01:47 am
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#33  June 27, 2012, 06:08:32 am
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his name doesnt matter hes a complete and total douche. IMT AND CVG and apparently his new site are all crap.

They make sometimes decent characters but get pissed when ppl fix them. I can tell you if i made something and it was broken like this crap I wouldn't care if someone fixed it up Id be happy they took the time to fix my mess.

You'll fix chuchoryu ? Sounds like a plan. How about you code him from scratch instead ?
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#34  June 27, 2012, 06:10:10 am
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no wonder he's shit
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#35  June 27, 2012, 06:20:37 am
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would have been interesting to actually let him react to the whole thing though: but then again we would run out of popcorn
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#36  June 27, 2012, 07:25:18 am
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Ok, I have to clarify something here.  I have had absolutely no problem with anybody else over at MMV other than Volzilla and TOPS. 

I know those two are coming from a backassward point of view here, but please don't let them represent an entire community of people who probably don't want to be represented by them.  It would be a shame to let a couple morons speak for anyone but themselves, let alone the whole group over at MMV.  Other people from that site have told me they would have tried to help if they knew what was going on.

I'm just saying, my wish is to let them take all the blame themselves, and not have other people punished for their idiotic behavior.  That's just what seems fair to me, that's all.
 
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#37  June 27, 2012, 07:40:22 am
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There's reasons I'm barely involved with mugen anymore. This being one of them.

While I'm disappointed with Vol/TOPS, RMH you're not free from being a catalyst yourself, including this, which is basically a giant "I'm better than you" fest.

If you were really the bigger man in this you would've just walked away silently. I'm pretty sure you didn't "politely refuse" if this is what came of it.
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#38  June 27, 2012, 07:42:28 am
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I see nothing wrong with exposing stupid shit like this. Oh, and if you read the logs, he DID politely refuse. Multiple times. Granted, that requires you to read. Please remember to carefully read everything that's said as opposed to just entering the thread and putting your two cents into it.

But are there truly grown men in this world?!
Last Edit: June 27, 2012, 07:47:26 am by Killer Kong?
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#39  June 27, 2012, 07:52:55 am
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*puts hand up*

I would be one of said MMV people, yes.

It seems things happened.

Wow.

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#40  June 27, 2012, 08:13:36 am
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I'm no coder, but i see nothing wrong with hosting edits as long as you credit them like you said. I'm a noob, but even I know this. Keep on doing your edits and by the way, i read the whole debate and you handled it perfectly in my book. This to me is just like copying and pasting work from another site or something. Just credit the person and all well that ends well. The end. This my point of view for hosting work and edits.
Last Edit: June 27, 2012, 08:22:09 am by soniku