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Started by Iced, October 25, 2008, 07:28:20 pm
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Re: Black man dragged to death, racism in the USA.
#61  October 27, 2008, 03:34:31 am
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I wish racism would go away in America, but one of the main reasons it won't is do to whole slavery/ segregation history.
It doesn't help that white people move out to the middle of nowhere to avoid other races.

That's not communism, Marx's is. That was an opportunist taking over the power. LOL, you think cubans tolerate the communist regimen? Get out. They HATE living there.
Cubans probably hate living there because of bullshit trade embargos.  Not necessarily communism.


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#62  October 27, 2008, 03:55:32 am
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what i think cyanide was trying to say, is that, in theory communism should work.
but it's extremely hard to get alot of people to tag along with one idea.

and pretty much everything oz said, i agree with.

It's impossible. That's why the word uthopic is put before socialism.

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#63  October 27, 2008, 04:05:41 am
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Once they said that it was "impossible" for a man to conquer the sky.

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#64  October 27, 2008, 04:07:35 am
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Once they said that it was "impossible" to find a candidate more idiotic than Bush.
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#65  October 27, 2008, 04:10:17 am
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#66  October 27, 2008, 04:35:05 am
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#67  October 27, 2008, 05:14:51 am
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It's impossible. That's why the word uthopic is put before socialism.
If the whole world embraced it would it still not work?

Communism is only bad because america hates it. Thats all. It goes against their ability to sell trash. Capitilism sure as fuck isn't working right now. All that financial stuff has gone right down the drain and everyone's trying to fix it.


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#68  October 27, 2008, 05:29:13 am
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#69  October 27, 2008, 05:40:21 am
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Communism is only bad because america hates it. Thats all. It goes against their ability to sell trash.
lol
But i agree with orange pencil, communism is not gonna work. I mean, it'd be awesome but is an utopia. Mostly because the leaders of such commercial system couldn't be the avaricious men of flesh we now are. Maybe robots lol, but putting a few guys controlling a world of "people in the same level" (under them btw) won't end in equality.
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#70  October 27, 2008, 05:55:51 am
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But that's never going to happen. Thus, "utopian socialism".

EDIT: Meh, nevermind. Not worth it.


to what you edited out: that was actually meant as a way to agree with OZ post. not aimed at yours.


What i meant with my previous post (the one about "conquering the sky") is that socialism is possible to work. all you need is the technology to do so. not just that, but when that technology is available, socialism will be inevitable.

the first rule of a socialist society is that everyone has access to the means of production. however, due to technological limitations, the socialist societies we knew had to elect representatives to manage this means of production, and their access. this, in itself, produced a small elite.  in producing a small elite, this elite starts deciding who is worthy of that means, and who isn't. so you don't have a truly socialist society, but an attempt at it.

however, if the entire community can participate on that management, either as active members or not, the elite will not be produced. this was actually proved to work on small communities trough all the world, BUT never on something of the size of a country.

but, the technology to do so is already being developed: this very board is based on a technology that allows people from different parts of the world to communicate and make decisions. using rss feeds that would reach every member of the society, be either through personal stations or public ones, everyone inside the country could contribute and give his opinion. this way, the entire society would be part of the management of the country. and would give everyone access to the means of production.


the Irony is that, for a socialist society to work, we actually need a capitalist society first to develop the technology needed.
but that is actually preety close to what Marx said.
Re: Black man dragged to death, racism in the USA.
#71  October 27, 2008, 08:17:21 am
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If this story was about a white guy being dragged behind a truck by 2 black guys

No one would be talking about it......... Black on White crimes go unnoticed and are almost 90% of the time not considered hate crimes


Racism exists everywhere,
recently in China,guards and police were caught beating black civilians   :-X

a while back a white couple was kidnapped,mutilated,raped, by 4 black people.....and it went unnoticed

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#72  October 27, 2008, 08:47:42 am
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Thats because the white male above 16 is the only demographic that can be hated or ridiculed.

Other races, religions and women, are all off limits.

I'm the most discriminated race in the world now. Stop judging me!!


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#73  October 27, 2008, 05:26:09 pm
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Another problem with communism is that rich people will cease to exist, thus most rich/powerful people oposse it. You could take cuba as en example, where only children can drink milk because the country is overall so poor; yet all children do drink milk; is that worse than a country in which 30% of the children have a gaming console, yet 10% of them don't have proper meals ?
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#74  October 27, 2008, 05:31:34 pm
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You're a nice guy Tony.

Another ??? That's the main problem.

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#75  October 27, 2008, 05:35:14 pm
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Ok wow. So Texas again.

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Oh and for all you racist, remember you are doing what you master wants you to do.
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#76  October 27, 2008, 08:03:35 pm
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Ok wow. So Texas again.

Warning Shamrock is about to go into one of his Marx's true American History rants.
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Oh and for all you racist, remember you are doing what you master wants you to do.

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#77  October 27, 2008, 08:13:19 pm
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My store recently started carrying a line of independent movies from the studio "Project Black," touting itself as a "revolution in filmmaking." There's nothing really specially about the movies, except that pretty much everyone in the movies are black, and that they're directed by black directors. While I'm all for people of all races having equal opportunities in every career field, is it really necessary to emphasize that your independent studio hires predominately blacks? It would be like if I started a film studio where I only allowed white kids and called it "Project White."

IMO, if there's going to be any sort of removal of racism, there needs to generally be a droppage on the concept of "race" in general, and it might help if there weren't so many efforts by said groups to distinguish themselves from everyone else. While it's great to acknowledge the achievements of people, they should be recognized as achievements by the individual, not by an individual as part of a race (ie: how the USA treats "Black History Month" or "Hispanic Heritage Month").
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#80  October 28, 2008, 12:15:59 am
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Communism is a mess in the sense that it trusts that the system isnt corrupt and wont award the ones on top and the rich more.
Its like anarchy, great on paper until you remember people lack morals and have to use other stuff to contain their urges.