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« on: December 13, 2008, 08:10:09 AM »

I have the character...except I can't find an AI of him anywhere. Huh

It's shown here: http://www.livevideo.com/video/D4D8DE8F631E44F29F04CBED1DAB3B32/holy-order-sol-vs-justice.aspx
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2008, 07:25:07 PM »

Anyone?
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2009, 06:51:49 AM »

Hi. Can someone provide the download to the boss version of order sol by Akutagawa, basically this order sol has an insanely nice AI, as shown in the following old video:

http://www.livevideo.com/video/D4D8DE8F631E44F29F04CBED1DAB3B32/holy-order-sol-vs-justice.aspx

The user who uploaded the video (any many similar ones) is most likely some sort of ass. I sent him requests just so he can freaking tell me how he got AI's for his Sol. Has not responded for almost 2 years now. Loser.

I know someone around here knew what this was hence the following: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=86154.0 old also but still.

Please tell me ONE person here knows where this is from. I don't understand, Sol is practically one of the coolest most badass mugen characters, and is hi/low-res compatible, yet people last year never responded when I asked for this version of order sol (what makes this version stand out is the obviously insane AI).

I've searched  last year, and did a search just now.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2009, 01:33:28 PM »

Watching the video I can assume one of a two possible situations.

1) That's not AI, and the "updated AI" was referring to Justice, not Sol.

2) If it's AI, it's custom made by the video maker, and may possibly be private.

At first I thought it could have just been Sol's normal AI before I saw the video, because if I remember correctly one of the later updates gave him murderous AI. But this video isn't the AI I thought it would be.

Personally, I'm leaning a bit towards someone actually playing Order Sol, rather than it being an AI. Some of the things Sol did seems more like something a human player would do. The fact that he has forgotten how hard "she" was does also imply the guy was controlling Sol (Although the fact Baiken's name was said in the description leads me to believe that was a mistake, and he really meant Justice).

If there is some other AI, I don't know, but it looks like someone's actually controlling that Sol.


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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 08:06:36 PM »

Wow...someone's actually doing that? Holy...crap...it's so hard to believe people can be that good. Anyway, you mentioned an AI for Sol of some sort. Can you clue me in on where to get this? I've searched for a long time for one. Also, I just watched that again and woah...there's just no way. He even did the 3 hit super, right when he got up, somehow knowing instantly that Justice was going to be vulnerable right at the moment he started the super? He must have had to know this the instant Justice started doing the move since that's pretty much the only time when he could catch him with the super at the moment, yeah no, that's just unbelievable. That's computer reaction time, not human, then again most of what sol is doing doesn't seem like a human is controlling it, but I'd like to know what part of that is human.

I think he is controlling them where he puts (Me) in the title, and I've seen those. The sol is noticeably different. The one that impressed me the most is when he fought Potemkin, but he just spammed grabs on him the whole time, somehow. I don't know how on level EIGHT he is able to spam grabs, I am fortunate enough to even make one grab to a lvl 5 GG character. I think there's a difference between "Holy Order Sol (boss mode)" and just "Order Sol" ill look this up, wish me luck...
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 08:20:03 PM »

I remember those vids.
My friend NxL made them.

Yeah, he made and tested AI for characters just for kicks. :3
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 08:21:36 PM »

Wow that was fast. I made an edit to my post you may want to read it now, you may not.

So your friend made these vids? And sure those are personal AI tweaks? If so then forget my entire requests, cuz I ain't learning how to tweak AI's, unless it's easy, lol.

Also if no one minds helping me with this, since I tried all that I can regarding Order Sol's volume. For some reason, when I lower his volume, his noise volume dramatically goes down more than his voice, so I cannot hear any of his noise without his voice being so damn loud. Is any of what I'm saying ring a bell at all? Is there in ANY way a method that can edit a characters voice volume AND his noise volume?

This is the option in one of his cns files (since he has many) that allows both his noise and voice volume to increase or go down: volume = 255

However, in the same cns file, and in 7 others, he has literally HUNDREDS of the following text: volume = helper(10000),var(4)

All of these hundreds are the same...and I don't think any of these have an effect on the volume you hear, but if they do correct me. I'm not so sure what all these "volumes" are doing in 7 different cns files for Sol. I don't see why all of them can't just be simple and have 1, or 2 volume options for him.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 12:37:29 PM »

Someone would be solving a problem I've had for 2+ years...problems actually. They're mentioned.

If no one can help on that, can I request for Ryu's Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix stage? I heard it was out, saw it in videos, but can't seem to spot it. I've only found Balrog's.
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