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New #1  August 20, 2022, 04:11:47 am
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Re: THE DREAM OF MAKING MONEY WITH MUGEN.
#2  August 20, 2022, 11:52:16 pm
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Who would want to ruin a free hobby like MUGEN/IKEMEN by monetize them? Not me, of course

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#3  August 21, 2022, 01:58:17 am
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Who would want to ruin a free hobby like MUGEN/IKEMEN by monetize them?
2Dee4Ever, for example. Seems he's selling a SamuraiShodown  compilation, using other people's creations(wow, fresh news!). We had an arguement at his channel and his only self defense is saying he's Capcom's Ambassador, avoiding to answer everything. That boy is a rat.

EDIT: I understood wrong. He encouraged people to buy ORIGINAL game by SNK, not hims. Rush reading + language barrier.
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#4  August 21, 2022, 02:49:22 am
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You can earn money in mugen by getting comissions.

No need to hide behind a youtube video, when you can easily earn by coding or spriting for someone else
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#5  August 21, 2022, 03:03:03 am
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Who would want to ruin a free hobby like MUGEN/IKEMEN by monetize them?
2Dee4Ever, for example. Seems he's selling a SamuraiShodown  compilation, using other people's creations(wow, fresh news!). We had an arguement at his channel and his only self defense is saying he's Capcom's Ambassador, avoiding to answer everything. That boy is a rat.

The dude just tried to justify himself making money of SamSho comp (which is owned by SNK) with the idea of him being Capcom Ambassador... Wut?
At any rate, just what XGargoyle said: if you want money, you take commissions. But even here, it's not even MUGEN what pays, but your EFFORT, which you could apply somewhere else and get the money too. I just don't get how people can actually expect to get money through showing MUGEN around on YouTube though, the thing isn't nearly as popular as, I dunno, a kids video with multicolored Hulks playing on a tuny playground. A single real commission could be worth MUCH more than a long run of this crap.
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#6  August 21, 2022, 05:25:53 am
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we all know that it is not possible to make money with mugen.

Ehhhh, no. You can. It's just really frowned upon.

I personally don't understand it, but talking to some people who think it's okay, they claim that many games are already monetized when using free engines like Unity so what makes MUGEN different?
Which is a good point, but still, I find it a bit scummy to sell people something you can literally download/customize for free.
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#7  August 21, 2022, 06:16:36 am
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#8  August 21, 2022, 06:56:35 am
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Unfortunately, some creators who use the IKEMEN engine learn new techniques and functions and end up not revealing or sharing knowledge about it, this is because, in the hope of earning money on Youtube, they don't want IKEMEN to become something accessible, and some even encrypt folders for prevent them from finding out, this is ridiculous, we all know that it is not possible to make money with mugen and sooner or later everyone will know how to use this engine.

A Ikemen GO engine dev here...
Secret technique... what?

We try to have everything documented in the wiki.
https://github.com/ikemen-engine/Ikemen-GO/wiki
There is no secret features or anything.
Some users like Ryon even have made video tutorials about it.
We, the other devs and some users are also trying to provide support and we will answer any question you may have.
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#9  August 21, 2022, 10:58:27 am
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I just don't get how people can actually expect to get money through showing MUGEN around on YouTube though,

Easy. People is lazy as Hell and some other doesn't know how to configurate a mugen, plus they think if they come here or another mugen community won't having a proper reply to their questions. So, they prefer to pay to a parasite like 2Dee than doing the effort themselves because you know, crystal generation. They do no effort, want everything done and running.
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Re: THE DREAM OF MAKING MONEY WITH MUGEN.
#10  August 21, 2022, 11:15:27 am
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I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting finished games without having any knowledge about their configurations. That only applies to people who want to edit something but demand others to do it for them. KOF Memorial is a full fledged game and many players of KOFM that I know of don't know what a def file is.

2Dee is just a scumbag for selling his shit to people who want to play his games. In this case, the person who's selling is at fault (and the dumb people who pay for them).
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#11  August 21, 2022, 11:33:01 am
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Also, "the black heart" is totally on steam.
Yeah but that's a full game with completely original assets that uses an engine (IKEMEN) that allows it to be commercially sold. Back when it was on MUGEN due to the licenses involved it could only be distributed for free.
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#12  August 21, 2022, 01:45:47 pm
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Such a shame to hear that some people trying to make money out of free stuffs. Totally illegal. Even monetising download link with ads.
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#13  August 21, 2022, 05:09:44 pm
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Unfortunately, some creators who use the IKEMEN engine learn new techniques and functions and end up not revealing or sharing knowledge about it, this is because, in the hope of earning money on Youtube, they don't want IKEMEN to become something accessible, and some even encrypt folders for prevent them from finding out, this is ridiculous, we all know that it is not possible to make money with mugen and sooner or later everyone will know how to use this engine.

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#14  August 21, 2022, 05:41:45 pm
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#15  August 21, 2022, 05:45:02 pm
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Re: THE DREAM OF MAKING MONEY WITH MUGEN.
#16  August 21, 2022, 06:48:48 pm
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2Dee at least makes nice palettes though!!!!! (Tho palettes are nice, I dont over prioritize them like he does, to the point where it's almost a "selling point")

2Dee did commission someone to make his own custom screenpack though. And all that dialog that he does for the prefights? All his/his people. But, serious fighters usually dont care about prefight intro dialog anyway.
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#17  August 21, 2022, 07:21:34 pm
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2Dee at least makes nice palettes though!!!!! (Tho palettes are nice, I dont over prioritize them like he does, to the point where it's almost a "selling point")

2Dee did commission someone to make his own custom screenpack though. And all that dialog that he does for the prefights? All his/his people. But, serious fighters usually dont care about prefight intro dialog anyway.

Okay, and?

Idk what we're supposed to do with this information lol he's still a piece a' shit. These aren't exactly noteworthy "highs" if you can even call them that.
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#18  August 21, 2022, 07:41:09 pm
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2Dee at least makes nice palettes though!!!!! (Tho palettes are nice, I dont over prioritize them like he does, to the point where it's almost a "selling point")

2Dee did commission someone to make his own custom screenpack though. And all that dialog that he does for the prefights? All his/his people. But, serious fighters usually dont care about prefight intro dialog anyway.

Okay....??

Nice Palettes or pre-fight dialogs aren't hard to do, it really isn't a selling point.

Palettes can be made by pretty much anyone, nice ones aren't difficult at all if the person in question has experience, pre-fight dialog isn't all that rare either, you're basically grasping at straws here


Just a guy who has a big passion for Racing Games, who happened to stumble upon MUGEN one year...
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#19  August 21, 2022, 07:46:17 pm
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I'm just here to say that I like the thread title.

Mugen has a wonderful history when it comes to commissions and the involvement of money. :mhappy:
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#20  August 22, 2022, 12:54:42 am
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Okay, and?

Idk what we're supposed to do with this information lol he's still a piece a' shit. These aren't exactly noteworthy "highs" if you can even call them that.


Okay....??

Nice Palettes or pre-fight dialogs aren't hard to do, it really isn't a selling point.

Palettes can be made by pretty much anyone, nice ones aren't difficult at all if the person in question has experience, pre-fight dialog isn't all that rare either, you're basically grasping at straws here

Relax! I was just joking lol. Reread my post again it's just a little satire mixed with some half truths. I'm in no way justifying what 2dee does. I dont honor or acknowledge that. To me, it seems the best thing he does is just trailers (hype), palettes, color separations, and annoyingly dragged out dialog that no serious fighter in versus mode or p2p online would care about. He should be a writer instead.
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Re: THE DREAM OF MAKING MONEY WITH MUGEN.
#22  August 23, 2022, 02:22:36 am
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Interesting topic
I confess that in the last few weeks, I have been posting videos on my youtube channel more frequently, in order to get 1000 subs and achieve monetization.
My time is small, so posting videos frequently has compromised my editing. Mugen became a responsibility and stopped being what it really is, a hobby.

About who sells Mugen, I was surprised that it wasn't mentioned a large database at the top of google search, which only allows downloads below 1MB for unregistered, and when you register, they require payment to release you to download.
All content produced by creators, they upload there, and start selling indirectly without the creator's permission.

The essence of mugen is not to profit, but to have fun.
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#23  August 23, 2022, 08:02:12 am
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Oh it's been mentioned enough. Even has its own thread.

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#24  August 24, 2022, 12:30:42 am
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It's fun because our friendly 2Dee4Ever, who's selling his compilations, came crazy when in his youtube channel I told publicly that his stuff:

- He has not programmed a thing. Just dialogues, CS and few paletes.
- He's using other creators' stuff without their consent(neither mine, because some of those characters has stuff done by me)
- He's making money out of copyrighted characters and games(SNK, Capcom, their chars, etc).
- He says I'm wrongly informed about his activities(dude!) and he sees my intentions are good and etc.

He just become nuts and menaced me to get a lawyer xD. I mean, is him THAT stupid to try suing me because he's doing illegal stuff? Both Mugen and Ikemen were created for FREE DOWNLOAD stuff, and once you're selling them, you're basicly not just being an asshole, but a pirate.

Of course, I'm relaxed. All his blatant nonsense will get to nowhere because the internetz.

I think I'll be buying his game.

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I swear there was something cool here!!
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#25  August 31, 2022, 10:03:42 am
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Who would want to ruin a free hobby like MUGEN/IKEMEN by monetize them?
2Dee4Ever, for example. Seems he's selling a SamuraiShodown  compilation, using other people's creations(wow, fresh news!). We had an arguement at his channel and his only self defense is saying he's Capcom's Ambassador, avoiding to answer everything. That boy is a rat.

He’s not actually selling his game, he was promoting the official Samurai Shodown game while using his gameplay in the background.
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#26  August 31, 2022, 10:16:34 am
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#27  August 31, 2022, 02:53:52 pm
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Who would want to ruin a free hobby like MUGEN/IKEMEN by monetize them?
2Dee4Ever, for example. Seems he's selling a SamuraiShodown  compilation, using other people's creations(wow, fresh news!). We had an arguement at his channel and his only self defense is saying he's Capcom's Ambassador, avoiding to answer everything. That boy is a rat.

He’s not actually selling his game, he was promoting the official Samurai Shodown game while using his gameplay in the background.
It was clear. He was encouraging people to buy the original game by SNK, not hims(sorry!). Read the whole thing in his YT story. I've replied to it, and I don't mind copying it here:

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I swear there was something cool here!!
Last Edit: September 02, 2022, 01:02:09 am by FeLo_Llop
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New #28  September 14, 2022, 09:50:22 am
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I'm actually planning on making campaigns either on Indiegogo or Kickstarter. I need to raise funds as I can't do this all myself and need to hire other sprite artists.

I need to at least raise 400 US dollars. I just set up a Paypal.me account. Should I put my real picture instead of an anime custom character? If I decide to go with my real bio picture I may have to change all my pictures in all my social media accounts.

It just feels so uncomfortable doxxing yourself. I've hesitated for so long. It took me about a year to even decide to create a Twitter account of Sailor Stars Beyond. As an INFP with the secondary function of extraverted intuition making me think of the worst situations doesn't really help. It just makes me feel so naked.
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