The Mugen Fighters Guild - KoF XIV

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Re: KoF XIV

#1741 March 31, 2016, 10:32:54 am

Screenshot of the Day. It has Athena and the old man.

Iced

Re: KoF XIV

#1742 March 31, 2016, 11:45:15 am

日本は素晴らしい国です。

-Red- said, March 30, 2016, 08:51:05 pm

Iced said, March 30, 2016, 03:40:53 pm
its 2016, mortal kombat shouldnt be the only property that knows how to work mirroring.

What is different in the last MK games when compared to the other 3D ones? I don't recall them doing anything particularly different when it came to mirroring besides allowing you to change your stance with the press of a button, which was a useless thing they added for no reason.

At least from nine onwards they kept the designs in a way that characters attacked without swapping parts from left and right, so kano robot eye would be on the right place no matter if he was ont he left or right. turning their backs if they flipped during an attack as well. Sure it was kinda useless but graphical wise things looked way more natural than having claws and design elements like swords and scabbards flipping sides when jumped over.

Its just really awkward to see stuff like a character with one mechanical arm and the mechanical arm changes depending on which side they are on. Or something stupider like how in MVC3 captain america saluted with the left hand when taunting on the wrong side of the screen ( even msh made that right by giving him two taunting animations depending on where he was )

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Re: KoF XIV

#1743 March 31, 2016, 11:50:12 am

How exactly would you want to handle a samurai who has a move that involves sheathing his sword in a dramatic way then unsheahing it to strike, in a 2D setting (but in 3D) where the slashing arm will always be toward the background (or toward the screen, whichever)

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Re: KoF XIV

#1744 March 31, 2016, 11:55:18 am

日本は素晴らしい国です。

design them in a way that the pose looks cool seen from either side, like tekken and soul calibur does it.

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Re: KoF XIV

#1745 March 31, 2016, 12:03:19 pm

Right, so ditch the 2D aspect entirely then. That's just not happening.
The question isn't that they're coding it wrong, it's that they're going for something you don't want. Don't play 2D fighters ?

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Re: KoF XIV

#1746 March 31, 2016, 12:04:23 pm

日本は素晴らしい国です。

Mortal kombat did it without ditching the 2d aspect, the character just has his back facing the screen or is more centered during the move.

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Re: KoF XIV

#1747 March 31, 2016, 12:08:12 pm

But MK is ugly. And it can't handle someone like Moriya or Hibiki in Last Blade. Or most weapon users that don't just have the same on each hand.

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JustNoPoint

Re: KoF XIV

#1748 March 31, 2016, 12:09:28 pm

Having the back facing the screen is ditching the 2D aspect. You should never see their back in the stance unless that's what the stance actually is. Having them change how the audience sees the stance depending on the side is dumb and ditching 2D aesthetics.

Iced

Re: KoF XIV

#1749 March 31, 2016, 12:16:38 pm

日本は素晴らしい国です。

Just No Point said, March 31, 2016, 12:09:28 pm

Having the back facing the screen is ditching the 2D aspect. You should never see their back in the stance unless that's what the stance actually is. Having them change how the audience sees the stance depending on the side is dumb and ditching 2D aesthetics.

its far more awkward having characters without symetrical designs changing arms. I kinda dont mind when its about swords and scabbards , even Vega claw, but it becomes really weird when its stuff like Spencer or Cable.

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Re: KoF XIV

#1750 March 31, 2016, 12:21:50 pm

I'd rather them do this than make ugly stance changes depending on which side they are on. While playing you get emersed in the game and don't think about the arm. The stance being different can be a lot more disorienting.

Niitris

Re: KoF XIV

#1751 March 31, 2016, 01:05:12 pm

I'm fine with it as is. Making people memorize a "second" set of animations because graphics is silly, leave that stuff in 3D fighters. Mortal Kombat kinda plays like a 3D fighter in a 2D pane with it's strings and whatnot, so it makes sense for them to have stance changes.

Sure the swapping parts pending on side is jarring in this new time, but people who know 2D fighters won't mind because it's what they're used to.

videoman

Re: KoF XIV

#1752 March 31, 2016, 03:52:43 pm

Mingnon Wins yay!

10'th trailer is coming.
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/715482402861096961

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The KOF XIV Tokyo event is moved to an earlier date (April 25). It will be held in Akihabara.

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Santtu

Re: KoF XIV

#1753 March 31, 2016, 05:03:47 pm

üks kurb olend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeB-4s1Cho4

A bit worried about Ryo now, he didn't use any special he doesn't have in XIII. Also, predictabo.

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Re: KoF XIV

#1754 March 31, 2016, 05:08:56 pm

MUGEN Grandma

I like how Joe was never announced, he just get to be shown taking a beating from Geese.

Now, why Ryo and not Mr. Karate II?

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Re: KoF XIV

#1755 March 31, 2016, 05:09:56 pm

Give me Tea, or Cake!

The first half of that trailer... I just LOL'd.

I'm buying this game day 1... it's seriously beaten all hype trains before it for me.

Titiln

Re: KoF XIV

#1756 March 31, 2016, 05:11:16 pm

the first part of the trailer made me think geese was limited to one move and one move only

Bea said, March 31, 2016, 05:08:56 pm

Now, why Ryo and not Mr. Karate II?

why would they do that

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Re: KoF XIV

#1757 March 31, 2016, 05:14:37 pm

MUGEN Grandma

Titiln said, March 31, 2016, 05:11:16 pm

Bea said, March 31, 2016, 05:08:56 pm
Now, why Ryo and not Mr. Karate II?
why would they do that

Because he has a much fresher/cooler design than plain old Ryo.
They did something different for Robert, why not Ryo?

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