LaxxxeYou had several warnings to chill out man but week after week you persisted in being a dick about things.I told you this morning to remove them man because your obsession over little Silly Putty finally blew it.What kind of bullSilly Putty are you trying to pull by saying "and no they wont be removed."Go "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan yourself you piece of Silly Putty.
I've always supported Sean Altly since day one but Laxxxe just takes very minor things and blows them up due to his obsessions.Enough is enough. Third strike and he's out. I already requested he remove my works twice in the past but it was worked out.Everything would have been just fine if he left all well be alone but he just can't help himself.Sorry Sean but I no longer support any projects with my work that Laxxxe is a part of.
Even though I completely dislike MOTVN I must agree that laxxxe is a douche.Well that's all I wanted to say. Proceed.
I think if laxxe is ruining the project for Sean Altlyfor being a asshole and taking things out of proportions I think mot stages need to be replaced or that Sean Altly needs to be aware about this
Look MOTVN, I appreciate your support and I'm sorry you're having trouble with Laxxe, of which I'm afraid I don't know the details. However, while we won't use any of your stages in the sequel (which saddens me, because I was hoping you would help us so we could have a uniform stage style, unlike the mash-up of SHADEs 1), I'm not going to remove the stages from SHADEs 1. You already gave us full permission to use them, and removing them would be a bunch of extra work for me (in making or finding new stages to replace them), and I don't feel I should be punished for whatever is going on between you and Laxxe. Also, what is the point in giving us permission if you can just take it away later? Over a disagreement with ONE member of the team no less?Sorry man. I hope you understand.Also, I edited the topic title because ALL CAPS is distracting.
Sean, going to go on the record and say if there any parts/components of stages I've made are free to use for this project in case you need them.MOTVN: C'mon, Laxxe is Laxxe. Demanding this at this juncture is a bit much when SeanAlty hasn't been the one to wrong you in any way, no?
Sean you know I would have never gotten into stages if it wasn't for you manWhen you liked Urban Glow for vesper I was excitedWhen Laxxxe asked for the Rorschach stage even though I was super busy you guys got it no problemI support your team but Laxxxe doesn't support mineHe's been trying to be over controlling with members of my team for the last few weeksI told him to back off and chill out but he persistsHe doesn't get itAT ALLnot only is he ignorant but he is insulting as wellas far as not removing content from Shades 1, whatever man that game is oldHowever the ONLY STAGE of my team to be allowed to be in Shades 2 is Mine and HankVenture's Hires Alaska Base RevisitedNothing else because that is the only stage of the bunch I still have onlinethe rest are now offlineAs far as Laxxxe goesunless I get an apology from him in PM then all gloves are offstraight uphe can make things easy or he can make things worsethe ball is in your court now Seanhe's part of your teamif he won't play nice neither will mine
MOTVN said, May 09, 2009, 08:51:20 PMI support your team but Laxxxe doesn't support mineHe's been trying to be over controlling with members of my team for the last few weeksI told him to back off and chill out but he persistsOver controlling? How so?Is he telling them what to do and how they should do it without regards for what they want?...isnt the whole thing of getting an apology when at the same time you are saying he doesnt get what he is doing wrong, kinda self defeating? What prevents the apology to be empty felt if he doesnt understand what is wrong?
ok this is what happend, he thought i insulted one of his friends, and i wasnt, i got tired of it and told him to cut the bipolar craphe kept sending me message after message, first saying take em downthen saying nvmthen saying take em down, im just tired of all his Silly Puttyoh and the only way im going to appologize is if you actually appolgize for flipping out over small things and getting upset at me and thinking im attacking you or your friends, which i was not
how so, if someone pushes me around abit to much i get really upset, i used to be worse, as everyone knows
Valodim said, May 10, 2009, 02:10:41 AMyeah well noone else has sued anyone because of mugen drama yet..Psst. Quiet you, if Ahuron or Drowin hear you they're bound to sue someone just to be the first to do it.
QuotePsst. Quiet you, if Ahuron or Drowin hear you they're bound to sue someone just to be the first to do it.hahahaha ...indeed.
Shades team said, May 10, 2009, 01:55:00 AMok this is what happend, he thought i insulted one of his friends, and i wasnt, i got tired of it and told him to cut the bipolar craphe kept sending me message after message, first saying take em downthen saying nvmthen saying take em down, im just tired of all his Silly Puttyoh and the only way im going to appologize is if you actually appolgize for flipping out over small things and getting upset at me and thinking im attacking you or your friends, which i was notthat's not what happenedthe only time any insulting went down was this morningif you had insulted anyone in house before hand you definitely would not be even close to anything resembling a position of power or yet alone have anything to do with the team or myselfdude you tried enforcing a non existent signature standard upon members of my teamyou made posts about them in the staff section listing the individual profilessupposedly you sent them PMs to take them down or spoiler themyou specifically targeted members of my team on every occasion on every complaint you hadso what if Zeroz changed his name to ".", it's a valid username just like any otherso what if they post things in the shoutbox like "I AM AWESOME", there is nothing in the rules against thatman you are over controlling and your reason was simply because it annoys youyou tried to get Olu banned on our site for a thread he posted here on Guild simply because you felt it threatened your projectdude if you go against in house members of the team of course I'm not going to want to be associated to youif you and I are in disagreement then why would I want to partake in any of your projects?if things were clarified in the past and I said ok nevermind it's fine forget about it let's move on then so be itbut obviously even now you do not see what it is you are doingI told the guys to let me deal with youthat's why they aren't posting or getting involved while I've been goneyou say you're tired of this Silly Putty yet no one is bothering you at all and the only reason the situation is like this now is because of your compulsion to try and control certain things about certain users to your liking when there are many users doing the same things and possibly worse yet in every instance you specifically target members of the team who include several members of the staffapology from me? for what?for confronting you about harassing members of the team and staff?hell noif you can't see that even through all this I am still willing to work with Sean despite your actions then you are blindalso I love how you try to word things like"he kept sending me message after message, first saying take em downthen saying nvmthen saying take em down, im just tired of all his Silly Putty"i sent you roughly 5 messages over the matter over a course of several weeksthe first would be something along the lines of "quit that Silly Putty or take my Silly Putty off shades"then you would reply and I would follow it by "ok cool forget about it"look Laxxxe nobody cares for any sort of apology from you after showing your true colorseverything that happened is trivial except your actions over me not wanting involvement with shades due to your behaviorSean knows what might happen if you continue to be a dickbecause I wont stop it from happeningI'll just laugh and say"told you so"
you read the thread here, i got pissed at olu here as well, and so what, i have stuff that annoys me, im not allowed to post it?i sent maybe a dozen or 2 dozen pms about sig regulation, i only went through the top row of people (for who was online), that day, you told me to stop on sig regs i stoppedim tired because you keep threatening shades, thats what really irks me, you got offended when you thought i was targeting your peeps?well im offended when your directly targeting shadesedit, you have a beef with me, not sean, so leave anything to do with sean out of this please
stop taking things out of contextyou're the one who comes to me when you need something for shadesso you're the one I deal with when you harass my teamif shades got affected in the process it was because of your actionsif you're being a prick then why would I want to support a project you are involved in where you asked for my help?
You know, I really am not in a position to judge who is right and wrong here at all, and frankly, I don't care. Here are 3 random thoughts on the situation, which will represent the extent of my involvement from here on out. Remember before I say these things that A) I generally like and respect both of you and your work, B) I'm just letting you know how I feel based on what I know, and C) I'd be remiss if I didn't admit that I am fully aware of what the general Mugen community thinks of Laxxe and that I ignore it because I've never had a problem with him.1. Laxxe, if MOTVN is right and the things you were trying to enforce were not stated rules on that particular forum, you probably should have just chilled out. You admit to me and others all the time that you lack certain social skills, so maybe you should just chalk this up to that.2. MOTVN, I have a hard time believing that Laxxe would specifically target the team members of a guy who has helped us before and was going to help us and be a part of our team for SHADEs 2. I like to think he's smarter than that, and I think it was probably a coincidence and just a side effect of him trying to enforce rules that weren't there.3. Even though I still have no personal beef with either of you, MOTVN, it really upsets me that you would attempt to do damage to the SHADEs project just to get at Laxxe. I hope he can admit this, because it's true, but I personally did 65-70% of the work on SHADEs 1, so I would be the person getting punished, not him.4. I may regret this later, but if your pals want to warehouse MY unreleased characters just to get at Laxxe, then tell them to do it then. The type of MUGEN users I respect will know the difference between officially released, finished characters and broken, warehoused characters obviously ripped from a full game. So it does me no harm. Let the leechers have their broken Silly Putty, people will still know that I try my hardest to make quality characters. I mean come on, not to sound conceited, but I made the MI Character of the Year, Solid Snake. I don't think it's going to ruin my reputation around here.And since it did wonders at the MI COTY Topic (and by wonders I mean it lead to some clown named Ohsky calling me a moron whilst being completely unable to form a coherent sentence, language barrier or not), here is a bunny ready to Street Fight, or perhaps Kombat Mortally.Boom.
actually sean you did more than that, i mainly did small bits of coding here and there(ie grapple coding and such), and parts of the screenpack coding, and the lifebar part of the coding, ive done not much compared to what youve doneedit-sean told me i did other stuff to
Just to lighten the mood, I've used my mod powers to change every occurrence of the word "fuck" into "Hacksaw Jim Duggan," and every occurrence of the word shit into "Silly Putty," within this topic.Thank you.
As stated beforeI support Seanfor the record I have no beef with Laxxe despite his reaction this morningI did receive Laxxe's recent PM on CS-X- and accept his apology
Quote2. MOTVN, I have a hard time believing that Laxxe would specifically target the team members of a guy who has helped us before and was going to help us and be a part of our team for SHADEs 2. I like to think he's smarter than that, and I think it was probably a coincidence and just a side effect of him trying to enforce rules that weren't there.3. Even though I still have no personal beef with either of you, MOTVN, it really upsets me that you would attempt to do damage to the SHADEs project just to get at Laxxe. I hope he can admit this, because it's true, but I personally did 65-70% of the work on SHADEs 1, so I would be the person getting punished, not him.4. I may regret this later, but if your pals want to warehouse MY unreleased characters just to get at Laxxe, then tell them to do it then. The type of MUGEN users I respect will know the difference between officially released, finished characters and broken, warehoused characters obviously ripped from a full game. So it does me no harm. Let the leechers have their broken Silly Putty, people will still know that I try my hardest to make quality characters. I mean come on, not to sound conceited, but I made the MI Character of the Year, Solid Snake. I don't think it's going to ruin my reputation around here.OH HEY its broken mugen hd style threats again!"We will warehouse your work and hold it hostage until we get what we want" what a cordial nice civilized way to solve things!!!!!SERIOUSLY now? is this the behaviour to have towards one another?
I think you're stepping in where you don't need to Iced. Let the three of them sort it out like gentlemen amongst themselves. MOTVN's not a fool, he knows well enough doing that anyway would kill his credibility at the very least.
Good to see this looks somewhat resolved, but I must say, the whole 'team' mentality thing is getting old.
One person is displeased with another individual, suddenly someone has dishonored the team.Members of said team seem to associate directly with the team's ordeals, take on a whole; attack one of us, you attack all of us mindset.What was a personal isolated grievance is now an attack towards Team XXX.Team XXX then attacks the team that the offender is a member of.It's damned gang violence.The mob mentality has caused nothing but drama and drags people who shouldn't be involved into the situation.Just my opinion, no one should be offended.
mugen gangs? highly unlikely.its the internet.. its simple people ganging up on someone.but thats normal, its like how ever one picks on Pico for his god ugly character.you cant compare that to gang violence.
I agree with Oz. I mean, I enjoy having a "Team" because with something so time-consuming and labor-intensive as MUGEN, it's nice to collaborate to get things done faster. However, I and my characters should have never been brought into this because not only was this stuff between Laxxe and MOTVN, but this stuff happened on a forum I've never even been to. That's messed up.
SeanAltly said, May 12, 2009, 03:04:44 AMI and my characters should have never been brought into this because not only was this stuff between Laxxe and MOTVN, but this stuff happened on a forum I've never even been to. That's messed up.So how come you have never been to the forum the supplied some of your stages and lifebars?Why does Laxxe do your bidding instead of yourself?He acts on Shades behalf and asks for things then refused to remove them.On top of that he added insult.That's messed up.
QuoteI think you're stepping in where you don't need to Iced. Let the three of them sort it out like gentlemen amongst themselves.Indeed Iced. Let they solve this all alone.(nothing against any one)
MOTVN said, May 12, 2009, 06:04:37 AMSeanAltly said, May 12, 2009, 03:04:44 AMI and my characters should have never been brought into this because not only was this stuff between Laxxe and MOTVN, but this stuff happened on a forum I've never even been to. That's messed up.So how come you have never been to the forum the supplied some of your stages and lifebars?Why does Laxxe do your bidding instead of yourself?He acts on Shades behalf and asks for things then refused to remove them.On top of that he added insult.That's messed up.I don't really have a lot of time to split between multiple forums. I mainly float between here and MI, and I still sometimes forget to do things on each one. You see, I spend most of my MUGEN allotted time creating things for MUGEN. I understand you created 2 stages that were used for SHADEs (including one specifically created solely for the purpose of going along with my Solid Snake), and I have asked permission through PMs, thanked you for it, been very nice to you, and given you proper credit. I don't feel I'm also obligated to spread myself thin by frequenting another forum as well.Also, Laxxe's a member of the team. He volunteers to do this stuff. He doesn't "do my bidding." And as far as refusing to remove your stuff, that's not him, that's me. It's obvious you are not going to let this go or move on with your MUGEN life, because you've now passed from insulting Laxxe (however deserved you may think it was) to insulting ME (who has no beef with you and has tried to keep things light), so I will simply thank you for your contributions to SHADEs 1, and refrain from asking for your help on SHADEs 2. It's not worth the trouble.
SeanAltly said, May 12, 2009, 06:27:39 AMAnd as far as refusing to remove your stuff, that's not him, that's me. It's obvious you are not going to let this go or move on with your MUGEN life, because you've now passed from insulting Laxxe (however deserved you may think it was) to insulting ME (who has no beef with you and has tried to keep things light)The only trouble on record is from Shades TeamAs far as refusing to remove my stuff he said it was him in PM not youI had already let things go with Laxxe but you made a questionable post and I repliedIf you took that as an insult then that's your problemit's quite pathetic you fail at getting the facts straight when it was Laxxe who started the insults and not II for one have never insulted youit's a pity you've gone down this road Sean
The Oz said, May 12, 2009, 12:44:29 AMGood to see this looks somewhat resolved, but I must say, the whole 'team' mentality thing is getting old.I guess we need to get rid of all the MUGEN forums too. That's like having little MUGEN national guards. Just to clarify, I did read your followup post and that mentality exists everywhere in the MUGEN community pretty much.
OMG, HankVenture wants to get rid of us !!! Hey guys, let's gangs up, us 37838 members of MugenGuild, and rape him to death !!!
MOTVN said, May 12, 2009, 08:44:53 AMSeanAltly said, May 12, 2009, 06:27:39 AMAnd as far as refusing to remove your stuff, that's not him, that's me. It's obvious you are not going to let this go or move on with your MUGEN life, because you've now passed from insulting Laxxe (however deserved you may think it was) to insulting ME (who has no beef with you and has tried to keep things light)The only trouble on record is from Shades TeamAs far as refusing to remove my stuff he said it was him in PM not youI had already let things go with Laxxe but you made a questionable post and I repliedIf you took that as an insult then that's your problemit's quite pathetic you fail at getting the facts straight when it was Laxxe who started the insults and not II for one have never insulted youit's a pity you've gone down this road SeanI had not chosen a side, and had not stated who started the insults (although it's hard to feel for you when you're doing things like trying to get us to alter our game and threatening to basically hold my characters hostage). I don't care about who started what, it doesn't concern me. It's your problem if I take something you said as an insult if what you said was insulting (i.e., "he does your bidding," etc.). What did I say that was questionable? I wasn't even addressing you, and the post you're referring to was 100% fact. Is it because I don't frequent your forum? Did I not provide a civil and reasonable explanation for that?Now you're calling people "pathetic" and saying things like "it's a pity?" What are you, a B-movie villain? What's really pathetic is that I continue to argue with you when my last post was rather thorough and final. The only road I've gone down is that of civility. Read my last posts and you'll see that, or don't, I really just don't care. If you two had kept this argument between the two of you in the first place, you wouldn't be sitting in front of your computer screen insulting someone who is always nice and refused to take a side for fairness' sake. It's sad to see someone who I thought was a nice guy and who does great work get so upset over an argument on the internet. Move on.
I have never asked for you to alter your game.I have never threatened to hold your characters hostage.I just said I'm not gonna lift a finger to stop it if that's the route some choose to take.So the actions of your teammate doesn't concern you? Yet you are so concerned about mine?Funny how you show so much concern over your characters yet act like you don't give a shit over my stages.Within this thread itself you and your teammate have failed to address several facts.I also never called anyone pathetic. Stop trying to twist words and make an issue out of nothing.You keep stating "move on" yet I was already done with the situation 17 posts ago until you had said thisSeanAltly said, May 12, 2009, 03:04:44 AMI and my characters should have never been brought into this because not only was this stuff between Laxxe and MOTVN, but this stuff happened on a forum I've never even been to. That's messed up.That clearly showed you failed to see the connection of Laxxe, a representative of your team which refused to remove my work from your upcoming project as stated via PM to me who represents myself and several others unhappy with Laxxe's behavior.I even said to him in the initial PM that it's nothing personal but to please remove anything from myself with anything he is involved in.I am not even upset over anything here. I am merely replying to new posts.What I should have done was lock the thread after I saidMOTVN said, May 10, 2009, 07:30:49 AMAs stated beforeI support Seanfor the record I have no beef with Laxxe despite his reaction this morningI did receive Laxxe's recent PM on CS-X- and accept his apologyIt doesn't matter which forum Laxxe was being over controlling on.Shit happened and people got pissed.It was worked out from my point of view yet you posted some concerns after the fact and I replied.I don't see the direction of this thread benefiting either party.
From my POV we can summarize all 43 posts in:- Laxxe is an idiot (as always)- MOTVN is a dick (as always)- MOTV suffers from CHATROOM POST-WRITING also known as Shamrock's Disease- Sean didn't lose any reputation points in all of this nonsense Just my 2 cents
as agressive as motvn is being and unjustified as it feel to sean, it's still true that laxxe is part of sean's team >.< . Dunno why but it feels like this thread digressed, it felt as if laxxe and motvn had finally fixed up things and then something moved things a little again.
Un Renoi said, May 12, 2009, 04:04:01 PMFrom my POV we can summarize all 43 posts in:- Laxxe is an idiot (as always)- MOTVN is a dick (as always)- MOTV suffers from CHATROOM POST-WRITING also known as Shamrock's Disease- Sean didn't lose any reputation points in all of this nonsense Just my 2 cents Hey fucker, I've gotten better with that, LOL. I was trying to keep my nose out of this too. Wait............... I think I will.
Frederika Bernkastel~ said, May 12, 2009, 04:23:24 PMas agressive as motvn is being and unjustified as it feel to sean, it's still true that laxxe is part of sean's team >.< . Dunno why but it feels like this thread digressed, it felt as if laxxe and motvn had finally fixed up things and then something moved things a little again.Yeah, something did, and if you go back and look you'll see it was MOTVN stirring things up again after the fact.MOTVN said, May 12, 2009, 01:32:50 PMI have never asked for you to alter your game.Um, this whole thread is about you originally asking us to remove the stages from SHADEs 1 as well. You may have relented on that a while ago, but that's what it was about at first.QuoteI have never threatened to hold your characters hostage.I just said I'm not gonna lift a finger to stop it if that's the route some choose to take.It's a figure of speech. You threatened to allow your teammates to rip and warehouse my unreleased characters. Don't hold me responsible for the actions of Laxxe and then claim you wouldn't be responsible for them doing that.QuoteSo the actions of your teammate doesn't concern you? Yet you are so concerned about mine?Yes, because your actions directly effect me.QuoteFunny how you show so much concern over your characters yet act like you don't give a shit over my stages.because you already gave us permission to use your stages. I never gave anyone permission to rip and warehouse my unreleased characters.QuoteWithin this thread itself you and your teammate have failed to address several facts.No I haven't. This is all he-said-she-said. I've addressed the only facts I know of, which is what has taken place on this thread.QuoteI also never called anyone pathetic. Stop trying to twist words and make an issue out of nothing.Yes, you said that it was pathetic that I failed at getting facts straight. That may be not exactly, directly calling me pathetic in the sense that you didn't say "You're pathetic Sean," but don't try to pretend like I wasn't supposed to take it like that. I mean man, do you know how to communicate properly with other human beings? Did you not think I was going to take that as an insult?QuoteYou keep stating "move on" yet I was already done with the situation 17 posts ago until you had said thisSeanAltly said, May 12, 2009, 03:04:44 AMI and my characters should have never been brought into this because not only was this stuff between Laxxe and MOTVN, but this stuff happened on a forum I've never even been to. That's messed up.That clearly showed you failed to see the connection of Laxxe, a representative of your team which refused to remove my work from your upcoming project as stated via PM to me who represents myself and several others unhappy with Laxxe's behavior.No, I see the connection there. I just reject your logic that it was okay to then threaten me and my characters and try to imply that I should be held responsible for him, like i'm his father. SO I see the connection between the things you stated above, but I don't agree with it. Also, there were no plans to use any of your current work in SHADEs 2. SHADEs 2 is at the concept stage. We were going to ask you to make new stages for it, so there is/was never anything to remove from SHADEs 2. Also, see my previous statement about "actions of team members" above.QuoteI even said to him in the initial PM that it's nothing personal but to please remove anything from myself with anything he is involved in.Sounds pretty personal to me. "Oh hey, btw Laxxe, nothing personal but I don't ever want to have anything to do with you ever again, ever. No offense though."QuoteI am not even upset over anything here. I am merely replying to new posts.What I should have done was lock the thread after I saidMOTVN said, May 10, 2009, 07:30:49 AMAs stated beforeI support Seanfor the record I have no beef with Laxxe despite his reaction this morningI did receive Laxxe's recent PM on CS-X- and accept his apologyYou can't lock topics, I'm the mod in here. If it was over with, you shouldn't have started things again.QuoteIt doesn't matter which forum Laxxe was being over controlling on.Shit happened and people got pissed.It was worked out from my point of view yet you posted some concerns after the fact and I replied.Yeah, it was over as far as I was concerned too, but you see, the post that started this mess again wasn't even addressed to you. I was conversing with a different member. I'm allowed to talk to other people in here right? About stuff that had already happened?QuoteI don't see the direction of this thread benefiting either party.You're right, and since I have absolutely nothing to prove to you, since even other people have noticed how completely shitty it was for you to involve me and my characters, and since I know just how mind-blowingly right I am on every count, I will lock this topic.
abusing your mod powers and locking the thread so you could get the last word in?I think notSeanAltly said:since I have absolutely nothing to prove to you, since even other people have noticed how completely shitty it was for you to involve me and my characters, and since I know just how mind-blowingly right I am on every count, I will lock this topic.I never involved you and your characters and you are mind-blowingly wrong on several counts
Your PM to me on the subject:Quotethis is brand new as of this morninghe's been fucking with my team for weeks now on endtrying to control the actions of my team members and so forthI've been very upset with the guy lately and he insulted me this morningI've never insulted himonly told him to stopwhen he continued to cause trouble for my team members I threatened to pull out of shadeshe lost his cool, insulted me and wants to play hardballlike I said to him in PM if you fuck my team we fuck yoursmy boys will warehouse the shit out of your chars past present and futuremoleboxed or not it wont stop themand even though I wont do it myself because I have too much respect for youI'm not going to stop them at allthe guys on my team hate laxxxe for being an assI always told them to chill and I'll take care of itbut once he tried to punk me this morning all bets are offLike I just posted in the threadhe can make things easy and everyone is happyor he can really fuck things up and piss everyone off hardcorethey already hate himthe only thing holding them back is meAll you have to do is READ that thread to see that you obviously brought me and my characters into this. Your definition of "close minded' is skewed and frankly incorrect. Stop polluting my project's board with your childish behavior. GET.OVER.IT.Also, I wasn't "abusing teh mod powerz," I was locking a useless, counterproductive thread that was, as you stated, not "beneficial to either party." I don't give a crap about the last word because you can have as many words as you want, first, last or otherwise, and it won't make you any more justified in any of the actions you've taken against me or in any of the things you've said to me.EDIT: And christ, now that I'm reading your little screencap, you mentioned my characters then too. Those are MY characters, why did you think that demanding the removal of those stages was going to be punishment for Laxxe? What kind of backwards logic is that? I really don't think I can reason with you.
SeanAltly said, May 13, 2009, 06:09:23 AMThose are MY charactersso?SeanAltly said, May 13, 2009, 06:09:23 AMyou mentioned my characters then too.and your point is?SeanAltly said, May 13, 2009, 06:09:23 AMwhy did you think that demanding the removal of those stages was going to be punishment for Laxxe? What kind of backwards logic is that? I really don't think I can reason with you.that's because you are slowSeanAltly said, May 13, 2009, 06:09:23 AMStop polluting my project's board with your childish behavior. GET.OVER.IT.then remove my work from your work and we can call it a daySeanAltly said, May 13, 2009, 06:09:23 AMAlso, I wasn't "abusing teh mod powerz," I was locking a useless, counterproductive thread that was, as you stated, not "beneficial to either party." I don't give a crap about the last word because you can have as many words as you want, first, last or otherwise,you locked a thread after you posted a wall of text in order to block a replySeanAltly said, May 13, 2009, 06:09:23 AMand it won't make you any more justified in any of the actions you've taken against meand what actions would those be?SeanAltly said, May 13, 2009, 06:09:23 AMor in any of the things you've said to me.It's always all about you, right Sean?
You guys should meet in an arcade, Byakko/Vyx style, with Laxxe to carry the camera. Then you'd achieve a new XX-vs-YY topic for hall of fame. 8)Also, if this happens, I put 100€ on Sean.
God's Anger said, May 12, 2009, 10:36:01 AMOMG, HankVenture wants to get rid of us !!! Hey guys, let's gangs up, us 37838 members of MugenGuild, and rape him to death !!! I swear to God, you're so damned retarded sometimes. It would be better if you stuck to forcing your opinion on peoples stages.
10 bucks on Sean.Quotethe guys on my team hate laxxxe for being an assIf it makes you feel better, MOTVN, you're as much of a douchebag as Laxxxe HankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 11:56:19 AM to God, you're so damned retarded sometimes.And you're a fulltime retard.You should listen to kakuto more often, by the way.
@ Hank : Does the word "joke" ring a bell ? Look in the dictionary, letter "j", after jojoba, and before joker.Also :HankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 11:56:19 AMI swear to God, you're so damned stupid sometimes. It would be better if you stuck to your forum as well as photoshopping for MOTVN's stages.
God's Anger said, May 13, 2009, 12:03:05 PM@ Hank : Does the word "joke" ring a bell ? Look in the dictionary, letter "j", after jojoba, and before joker.Also :HankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 11:56:19 AMI swear to God, you're so damned stupid sometimes. It would be better if you stuck to your forum as well as photoshopping for MOTVN's stages.Phbbt. I catch a lot of flack from guild kids. It's almost second nature to respond like that now. As for me photoshopping, I don't do it for MOTVN's stages. However, at least I'm better than what Guild, RS, MI, or IMT, has to offer in that department.Noah Bennet said, May 13, 2009, 11:59:59 AM10 bucks on Sean.Quotethe guys on my team hate laxxxe for being an assIf it makes you feel better, MOTVN, you're as much of a douchebag as Laxxxe HankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 11:56:19 AM to God, you're so damned retarded sometimes.And you're a fulltime retard.You should listen to kakuto more often, by the way.I have no idea who you are, and the fact that you hiding behind some name that I've never seen before makes your post just that much more laughable. As for me listening to Kakuto, you have it wrong he should have been listening to me. Putting up with retarded pussies like you and actually caring about what they think was the worst thing he could have ever done.
Since you're planning to update Shades 1 soonhttp://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=97507.0you might as well update it with new stages and remove mine since you insist on having bad blood with me
Who's insisting what, now?It sounds like the other way. It also sounds like you started the whole fiasco.
There are two things that you said MOTVN that I will reply to.1. I'm slow? Are you kidding? I've proven on a ridiculously consistent basis that am I more well spoken, socially adept, and frankly, civilized than you. So much so that you stating that I'm slow is more amusing than insulting.2. I will not, I am repeating once again, WILL NOT remove your stages from SHADEs 1. Your stages are well made but they're not really worth all this trouble, the only reason I'm refusing now is because of the principle of the matter. You gave us full permission, and to put it monosylabically enough for you to understand, "no takesies backsies." I had no bad blood with you until you brought me into the middle of this and threatened my characters and what not. In fact, I still have no "bad blood" because this is the fucking internet. I did not insult you until you needlessly insulted me. Please, do me a HUGE favor, and keep posting about this. Every post you make exposes your apparent complete inability to process basic social concepts or to even comprehend what has been said clearly in this thread. Good job creating a rift where there needed not be one. As was mentioned above by Marquis, you seem to be the one who insists on there being a problem. Your insults grow more and more brazen, while I simply respond in a completely justified manner that was entirely provoked by you. I have been advised by a global moderator to once again lock this thread, a peace-keeping measure I attempted to take earlier that you decided to misinterpret as an ego-stroking grab for that ever important "last word." However, I will not do that just yet, because as I stated, I think you're doing a fantastic job of proving my point for me, no matter what particular chronological order your words come in.Also, Cybaster, what does that translate to in America Money?
You know its scary but I agree with Aboriginal One. Though I don't think that matters at this point either.HankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 12:11:28 PMAs for me listening to Kakuto, you have it wrong he should have been listening to me. Putting up with retarded pussies like you and actually caring about what they think was the worst thing he could have ever done. It's called empathy Hank. Try it sometime.
Though we have differences, whatever they might be, we are still intelligent enough to know when's something's amiss.
MOTVN, I think you missed something: We're both saying you're in the wrong here and started something needlessly (and badly at that). Sean's reactions to your posts and tone is how anyone would react in their right mind.
HankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 12:11:28 PMPhbbt. I catch a lot of flack from guild kids. It's almost second nature to respond like that now. Learn how to differentiate kids from joking people ...MOTVN said, May 13, 2009, 12:10:03 PMsince when has Hank done photoshopping for my stages bro?Dunno, just an assumption, from the collaborations you've been doing. SeanAltly said, May 13, 2009, 01:25:29 PMAlso, Cybaster, what does that translate to in America Money? 100€ = 136$
Kung_Fu_Man said, May 13, 2009, 02:07:00 PMMOTVN, I think you missed something: We're both saying you're in the wrong here and started something needlessly (and badly at that). Sean's reactions to your posts and tone is how anyone would react in their right mind.KFMI was fed up with Laxxe's constant never ending behaviorI probably would not have been so brazen had I been given some time to chill outYou don't walk in front of a car when the driver has road ragelolSean's post in the other thread made me laughsince then I've chilled out
HankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 12:11:28 PMI have no idea who you are, and the fact that you hiding behind some name that I've never seen before makes your post just that much more laughable. As for me listening to Kakuto, you have it wrong he should have been listening to me. Putting up with retarded pussies like you and actually caring about what they think was the worst thing he could have ever done.Yeah I guess we should break out our graffiti cans and act gangsta on the internet because that would "man us up" or whatever you're saying we lack. As I've told you before, I saw a lot of potential in you as someone who actually gave a shit about creation beyond the community dramas, but I have to say that seeing your recent actions of just coming in and blindly derailing topics to defend your "homies," while simultaneously calling everyone else (involved or not) "pussies" or "gay" has definitely shown that I thought wrong.
Jango said, May 13, 2009, 02:34:17 PMsimultaneously calling everyone else (involved or not) "pussies" or "gay" has definitely shown thatJango said, April 23, 2009, 12:20:33 AMit's ok 2b gay
YOU ALL ARE GAY HATERS PUSSY NIGGAS. CLUB SYN IS GONNA ROCK YO SHIT CUZ YOU ALL COCK GRINDERS. STOP HIDING BEHIND A NAME ON THE INTERNET AND COME AND FIGHT ME, BITCHES.
Jango said, May 13, 2009, 02:34:17 PMHankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 12:11:28 PMI have no idea who you are, and the fact that you hiding behind some name that I've never seen before makes your post just that much more laughable. As for me listening to Kakuto, you have it wrong he should have been listening to me. Putting up with retarded pussies like you and actually caring about what they think was the worst thing he could have ever done.Yeah I guess we should break out our graffiti cans and act gangsta on the internet because that would "man us up" or whatever you're saying we lack. As I've told you before, I saw a lot of potential in you as someone who actually gave a shit about creation beyond the community dramas, but I have to say that seeing your recent actions of just coming in and blindly derailing topics to defend your "homies," while simultaneously calling everyone else (involved or not) "pussies" or "gay" has definitely shown that I thought wrong.So let me get this straight. You think I care more about the "community" and rather waste my time on forums with people bickering about an open source engine than create? You're dead wrong. This is why I reside elsewhere rather than Guild, MI, RS, IMT or any other site that seems to be populated mostly by 4-Chan spam monkeys. Although I will say that Guild is better at controlling them. The community has been dead to me for quite some time now and this is why I focus mostly on actually creating instead of posting at any of those forums. For someone who is so hung up on what I do and what I post, you seem to be the one primarily focused on forum drama and being a part of it at all times. Especially when I'm involved. Either way let's start getting some facts straight.I was not the first to derail this topic, by the time I made any kind of derail-worthy post it was already derailed with comments by people like CCI [Walt], Cybaster, and that stupid troll Noah. I appreciate the credit for derailing it, but sadly it didn't happen that way. I'll agree that I contributed to the derail when I took Cybaster's also sarcastic reply the wrong way. The rest of the time however I was just replying to what was giving me. Also, I never once defended MOTVN in this thread, he can take care of himself just fine and certainly doesn't need my help. If saying, "As for me photoshopping, I don't do it for MOTVN's stages.", is helping him in some way, then oh shit! I guess I'm guilty.Back to the topic that has been evaded since the start. MOTVN asking that his stages be removed from the S.H.A.D.E.S of Manhattan game. How is that wrong? Authors demand that their work be removed from other works and websites all the time. How is this case any different? Even if the work was originally made for SeanAltly's game, MOTVN is still the original creator of those stages. So if he ask that his work be removed then how is it that Sean is allowed to say no. The only thing this reminds me of is warehouses and how they usually refuse to take down anything even if the original author comes to them and asks. (I am not going to lie, it felt awkward to say that KFM) Since SeanAltly updates the game regularly it shouldn't be an issue to take out the stages that MOTVN made and then replace them with other stages. Just seems that Sean is being as difficult as he can over the matter.
QuoteAuthors demand that their work be removed from other works and websites all the time. How is this case any different? Even if the work was originally made for SeanAltly's game, MOTVN is still the original creator of those stages.]you gotta a point here.
QuoteSo if he ask that his work be removed then how is it that Sean is allowed to say noBecause the forum policy is to not give a damn about that stuff?
HankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 04:51:50 PMAuthors demand that their work be removed from other works and websites all the time. How is this case any different?difference being that he previously gave permission and now he wants them removed because laxxe did some stupid shit
If I can interject. MOT and I guess Hank too, What is the problem with leaving Shade 1 alone. I mean Sean has already compromised with you feelings about Laxxe. He won't use your stages in Shade 2. So he's already given up something. Take a step back for a second. I understand that you don't like Laxxe, but Sean has been compromising and trying to defuse.Don't you think you guys might be taking it a little far? It starting to sound like you are beating a dead horse. Please try to understand that Sean has been trying to be, compromising.What are you gaining by removing the stages?
shamrock said, May 13, 2009, 05:15:01 PMWhat are you gaining by removing the stages?BEING TOUGH GANGSTASMOTVN said, May 13, 2009, 02:29:43 PMI probably would not have been so brazen had I been given some time to chill outYou don't walk in front of a car when the driver has road rage
shamrock said, May 13, 2009, 05:15:01 PMMOT and I guess Hank too, What is the problem with leaving Shade 1 alone.I'm now waiting for the moment Marvel and Capcom get into a fight, and Marvel asks Capcom to remove all their copyrighted stuff from MVC2 and all the Versus games.
Titiln said, May 13, 2009, 05:43:59 PMif we did your postcount would skyrocketyeah... if you had postcount.
yeah it's a pretty useless smiley that supports content-less posting. and we do have a post count, just not a numeric one in thread view.
Valodim said, May 13, 2009, 05:46:39 PMyeah it's a pretty useless smiley that supports content-less posting. and we do have a post count, just not a numeric one in thread view.Awwwwww please Val? Pretty please? Think of the orphans.
ok mot, i appologized, twice, yet something that upsets you keeps coming up, honestly as i said in the first pm "if you thought i was insulting your friends, im sorry", I know that your pissed with me, hence why i said, take a break from dealing with me. But you keep posting these insults or misunderstandings that I thought you got cleared. 1. The sig thing, you thought that I was attacking your friends, I never intended to, and pointed it out, You even came back when you thought the size was posted just to attack your friends, and later came back and appologized after you looked at the date2. The thread with the pet peeves (rules that should be enforced thread), you got upset with that, you sent me a pm, I got really upset, I sent you an angry pm back, Sean got involved even though he shouldnt have been, but it was settled. Now this, mot just let it drop already for a while. And please no more threats or crap to each other from either side,Oh and inb4 walt etc. with their loving attitudes towards me.
God's Anger said, May 13, 2009, 05:52:06 PMhttp://forum.mugen-infantry.net/Smileys/MIsmileys/pop.gifDoes Aztec know you are stealing his bandwidth? MOTVN said, May 13, 2009, 06:01:07 PMLaxxe hmmmmmm.... should I be jealous?
You and I are breaking up. I'm tired of you cheating on me.Watch out Mot, I think she gave me syphilis.
shamrock said, May 13, 2009, 06:10:04 PMYou and I are breaking up. I'm tired of you cheating on me.Oh good call, you'd be the only one to make it out alive. Anyway, I was going to say something about the real topic of this thread. But since MOTVN and Laxxe seem to have kissed and made up, I'll save it for next time. And of course there will be a next time.
Titiln said, May 13, 2009, 06:19:02 PMdoes this mean everything has been sorted out and the stages can remain in the game or whatCan we get back to you on this? The Grand High Council of the Inner Circle is waiting for the agents and lawyers.
MOTVN said, May 13, 2009, 06:27:31 PMand while we're at it, will Walt let my topics stay open for more than a week?hahaha I didn't even remember.I guess.
HankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 04:51:50 PMAuthors demand that their work be removed from other works and websites all the time. How is this case any different?You've got a good point..(O). said, May 13, 2009, 04:57:42 PMyou gotta a point here.You've gotta good point about him having a point.Titiln said, May 13, 2009, 05:02:42 PMdifference being that he previously gave permission and now he wants them removed because laxxe did some stupid shitYou've got a good point as well.shamrock said, May 13, 2009, 05:15:01 PMIf I can interject. MOT and I guess Hank too, What is the problem with leaving Shade 1 alone. I mean Sean has already compromised with you feelings about Laxxe. He won't use your stages in Shade 2. So he's already given up something. Take a step back for a second. I understand that you don't like Laxxe, but Sean has been compromising and trying to defuse.Don't you think you guys might be taking it a little far? It starting to sound like you are beating a dead horse. Please try to understand that Sean has been trying to be, compromising.What are you gaining by removing the stages?Shamrock's got a good point.God's Anger said, May 13, 2009, 05:52:06 PMGood point.MOTVN said, May 13, 2009, 06:01:07 PMLaxxe I'm not pissed at anyone broMOTVN has an excellent point.This hedgehog has several good points.Everything's settled now, worked out even, we're all friends again, also not mocking anyone in this post.
Dude, when I made that banner, I made sure the pixel count fits the limits here.Unless of course you're joking in reference to the Zeckle thing. If so, lol.
LOL. Where the hell did I get 500 from? Sorry you are ok, I swear that it was 500 X 200. Unless Val change that in Feb. Glad I haven't been a nazi about it.
MissBHaven said, May 13, 2009, 05:48:22 PMValodim said, May 13, 2009, 05:46:39 PMyeah it's a pretty useless smiley that supports content-less posting. and we do have a post count, just not a numeric one in thread view.Awwwwww please Val? Pretty please? Think of the orphans.You'll get your popcorn smiley if you can convert the image to the same style as the rest of the smilies. The post count being "hidden" won't change though.
shamrock said, May 13, 2009, 08:22:53 PMLOL. Where the hell did I get 500 from? Men tend to get confused about size.Messatsu said, May 13, 2009, 08:39:57 PMMissBHaven said, May 13, 2009, 05:48:22 PMValodim said, May 13, 2009, 05:46:39 PMyeah it's a pretty useless smiley that supports content-less posting. and we do have a post count, just not a numeric one in thread view.Awwwwww please Val? Pretty please? Think of the orphans.You'll get your popcorn smiley if you can convert the image to the same style as the rest of the smilies. The post count being "hidden" won't change though.What do you mean the same style? you mean yellow with the same size head? I think worrying about post count is silly anyway. It ranks right up there with worrying about karma.
MissBHaven said, May 13, 2009, 08:52:14 PMI think worrying about post count is silly anyway. It ranks right up there with worrying about karma.Having the post count hidden = less people worrying about their post count being Epeen, I guess.Even though stars do the same thing so...
HankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 12:11:28 PMI have no idea who you are, and the fact that you hiding behind some name that I've never seen before makes your post just that much more laughable. As for me listening to Kakuto, you have it wrong he should have been listening to me. Putting up with retarded pussies like you and actually caring about what they think was the worst thing he could have ever done.Way to overrect to a simple post 8)Oh wait...HankVenture said, May 13, 2009, 04:51:50 PMSo let me get this straight. You think I care more about the "community" and rather waste my time on forums with people bickering about an open source engine than create? You're dead wrong. This is why I reside elsewhere rather than Guild, MI, RS, IMT or any other site that seems to be populated mostly by 4-Chan spam monkeys. Although I will say that Guild is better at controlling them. The community has been dead to me for quite some time now and this is why I focus mostly on actually creating instead of posting at any of those forums. For someone who is so hung up on what I do and what I post, you seem to be the one primarily focused on forum drama and being a part of it at all times. Especially when I'm involved. Either way let's start getting some facts straight.I was not the first to derail this topic, by the time I made any kind of derail-worthy post it was already derailed with comments by people like CCI [Walt], Cybaster, and that stupid troll Noah. I appreciate the credit for derailing it, but sadly it didn't happen that way. I'll agree that I contributed to the derail when I took Cybaster's also sarcastic reply the wrong way. The rest of the time however I was just replying to what was giving me. Also, I never once defended MOTVN in this thread, he can take care of himself just fine and certainly doesn't need my help. If saying, "As for me photoshopping, I don't do it for MOTVN's stages.", is helping him in some way, then oh shit! I guess I'm guilty.Now that a greater overreaction AND a hilarous one. GJ.
MissBHaven said, May 13, 2009, 08:52:14 PMWhat do you mean the same style? you mean yellow with the same size head? I think worrying about post count is silly anyway. It ranks right up there with worrying about karma.Yes, yellow head. You can use this as a base.
