Actually that's the whole SFA3 cast minus Juni and Juli. And...wait...BOXER? Tell me he's hidden or something.
Yeah balrog will be in the game, I keep forgetting about those characters because I'm used to the arcade version which didn't have balrog, T hawk, Fei Long ectupdated first post.
BC said, March 14, 2010, 04:46:15 amYeah balrog will be in the game, I keep forgetting about those characters because I'm used to the arcade version which didn't have balrog, T hawk, Fei Long ectupdated first post.Now it's long
too bad there's no Seth in Alpha series unless one of you guys can edit SF3 Urien or somethingeven then he might feel out of place...do you plan for him at all in here?
The_Question said, April 08, 2010, 07:24:34 amHmmm, I don't see Guile here. Is he hidden like the Shadowman assist from Marvel vs Capcom?I see Charlie, that should be enough.
Nice rooster and all but it's like you just add the typical chars why not make Retsu sf1 or maby Geki sf1? it's allways same chars but good luck
Mugen ninja said, May 25, 2010, 02:57:09 pmNice rooster and all but it's like you just add the typical chars why not make Retsu sf1 or maby Geki sf1? it's allways same chars but good luck blackchaos07 said:The game will also feature unlockable guest characters and also feature hidden characters too which won't be revealed just yet.
Nero D. said, April 09, 2010, 03:00:25 amI think she has a show on nickelodeon. I'd wreck her if she was 16.She IS 16. Or was when this post was made.
Stench of Victory said, April 08, 2010, 09:26:18 amtoo bad there's no Seth in Alpha series unless one of you guys can edit SF3 Urien or somethingeven then he might feel out of place...do you plan for him at all in here?Seth born was around SFII timeline , putting him in SFA timeline would be out of place,SF timeline:Street Fighter/Fighting Street, Street Fighter Alpha/Zero, SFA2, SFA3, Street Fighter II, Street Fighter IV, and then Street Fighter III
BC said, May 25, 2010, 05:52:36 pmMugen ninja said, May 25, 2010, 02:57:09 pmNice rooster and all but it's like you just add the typical chars why not make Retsu sf1 or maby Geki sf1? it's allways same chars but good luck blackchaos07 said:The game will also feature unlockable guest characters and also feature hidden characters too which won't be revealed just yet. Does this meen youre have them as hidden ore something? ore mabey you can't say that cause theyre hidden
Well, by hidden I mean you gotta find them via the select screen, for example: highlight Ryu, left, left, left, down, back > New Character.By unlockable I mean literally unlockable, Complete the game to get a code, input the code into a special .exe file that releases a file into the chars folder. (ala Borghi - The Blackheart). Actually, that's given me an idea.... I might do things a different way, instead of completing the actual game to get the code.... Thanks
Aren't you interested by anything else than Fucking Ryu, Ken and Gouki (and don't you dare answer Dan, Sakura and Sean) !?
CyFagster said, October 12, 2010, 05:39:51 pmAren't you interested by anything else than Fucking Ryu, Ken and Gouki (and don't you dare answer Dan, Sakura and Sean) !?well.... i only use these 3 @.@
I think you should add Alex, Sean, Twelve, Ibuki, (Loads of SF3 Characters later...)and Makoto, But seriously, Alpha 4 Sounds prettey cool and i would love to be of help
ξ Bastard said, December 22, 2010, 02:49:44 pmThen it wouldn't be "Alpha" anymore. Plus, they all clash sprite wise.Can't we just give them alpha makeovers? besides, remove the sprite ad its coding and downgrade the shading, there, we have a genuine alpha stile thrid strike character
" Don't you even DARE fall into the trap! " anyway i recently started playing sfa3 like crazy with my new arcade table :p , btw if you need anything dont hesitate to ask me ( btw i thought of working on some new lifebars , as soon as i finish a design il send it too ya ) , Good Luck with the game and im waiting for an Alpha/Beta Release
NG3o said, December 22, 2010, 05:27:09 pm" Don't you even DARE fall into the trap! " like my caption, LOL! It a Youtube fad about bridget
Sonicstar3000 said, December 22, 2010, 02:01:45 pmI think you should add Alex, Sean, Twelve, Ibuki, (Loads of SF3 Characters later...)and Makoto, But seriously, Alpha 4 Sounds prettey cool and i would love to be of help AFAIK someone (I think marancv) converted some 3S characters into alpha style. Though they still contain lots of frames so they would stick out like a sore thumb, but then the solution would be to reduce the frames.The 4th build (final) of this game is supposed to feature over 40+ characters, it would be cool to add some 3S characters or guest characters but as Cybaster said it wouldn't really be "alpha" anymore..@ NG30Thanks man and I will do
Sonicstar3000 said, December 22, 2010, 02:01:45 pmI think you should add Alex, Sean, Twelve, Ibuki, (Loads of SF3 Characters later...)and Makoto, But seriously, Alpha 4 Sounds prettey cool and i would love to be of help- Alex: Still hasn't started to train under Tom's.- Sean: PUPIL of Ken. He's 16 in SF3, which is a game that happens sometime in 1998/1999...SFZ is placed in 1989~1990(or AS MUCH, 1991)- Ibuki: Same as Sean, but she's not Ken's pupil - Twelve: he's not a prototype like Necro. So, it would not work.- Makoto: same as Sean or Ibuki.Anyway, as you later said, SF3 characters would need a makeover...so if you want to be of help, you'd better start by spriting.PS: I'm not trying to be harsh, just reallistic.PS2: Yun's appearance in SFZ3 Upper is NOT CANON.
I can never stop pushing my way in, so here's a rage idea for Adon:Jaguar Armageddon: Dashes forward, swiping his elbows back and forth, followed with a Jaguar Knee that knocks the opponent into the air, then during the ascent, performs an aerial Jaguar Kick that knocks the opponent to the ground and Adon back to the wall, where he Jaguar Tooth's into the opponent full force *Cue blood FX*.I could prolly come up with some more rage attacks for you people, if you wanted.
So Oro, Maki, Hugo or Andoire, Eagle, Ingrid, Dudley, Q can all be in the game what about Remy, urien, and gilland I know that Elena went to the same school as Makoto so she is not possible
Ingrid appears in SFA3 Max and just like Yun's appearance she is not canon.Q has nothing to do with Alpha storyline or timeline, neither does Urien or Gill.There's a mugen game in development by Fido that has all the SF3 chars along with the Alpha ones, its called SF Megamix. You can find your fix there.I don't think BC will be cramming SF3 chars into this game, but who knows.
If original/edit creations will be included, these games are cannon timewise:- Street Fighter 1- Final Fight- Final Fight 2- Slam Masters- Rival SchoolsThe non-capcom:- Fatal Fury- Art of Fighthing- Metal Gear 2Not cannon timewise, but cannon storywise:- Captain CommandoI've already said on the other topic (in the wrong topic by the way, sorry), if any chars edited or original are in the plans for the game, it should mainly focus on Final Fight and Street Fighter 1 not used chars, like:- Haggar from FF- Poison from FF- Andore from FF- El Gado from FF- Joe from SF1- Retsu from SF1- Reki from SF1- Lee from SF1- Eagle from SF1Those above. Haggar has been release by Acey, and there's a Haggar by X-boy on the Urban Chaos project. Poison has a sheet made by Dampir. Andore sprites may be downsized to fit regular alpha standarts. Eagle has a CVS port. I beliave El Gado is on a wip status on Urban Chaos. Joe, Retsu and Reki, i never heard of any wips or edits. Reki can be frankensprited from Guy, Strider and Balrog(spain).The only SF3 chars that would be ok if, of course sprited in alpha style, would be Oro and maybe Dudley.
- OhzemesmoSTREET FIGHTERIS NOT SNK!Man!! Street Fighter is a CAPCOM videogame, not your ZOMG!! COMPILATIONZZZ!!!
Yeah, how about we add Omega Tiger Woods as a boss char into the mix?He would give Shin Akuma a run for his money anyday.Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty and how is Captain Commando canon "storywise"? This is not Namco vs Capcom or Capcom All Stars or anything of the like. This is simply STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 4.New game. Same good old character roster. A few new addions to gameplay and features.PERIOD
Before being rude for nothing, take a chill pill, little man.I sugest those because of relations and parodies they both made in the past.Like Dan being a parody of Ryo, Ryo being a copy of Ryu, and so on.Terry from Fatal Fury is a guest char on other, if not the best, Street Fighter project made for mugen. Street Fighter Nes by BIA, who is a very respected coder and member of the mugen forums trought out the web. I don't think she is a copilation type of gal. As for Snake, Sean Alty has made a very compelling port and is a good fit for the whole military cenario of SFA, if a guest char is needed. It's not fit sprite wise, but it a good begin with coding or ideas.Another thing, if BC did not want us to comment on the roster and give sugestions, he would have made a closed topic. Since the project is his, i don't think you have any autority to impose any restrictions here.And, you're dealing with an adult here, father and a guy who pays his on bills. Not some 12 year retard. I wouldn't sugest a copilation even in my first days of mugen, 10 years ago.
Where's the FACEPALM icon when needed? ¬¬XCapcom made a parody of SNK, that's TRUE. One of Dan's quotes was: "I don't like the art of fighting, but I want to be the king of fighters!". But it's not the same a PARODY CHAR, than putting a Guest Char...This is STREET FIGHTER ALPHA 4, not your wishmugenZOMGCOMPILATIONZ
SNK characters is one thing dude, but once you asked for Solid Snake I think that's when you opened yourself up to get made fun of : P
Ohzemesmo said, January 03, 2011, 10:13:34 pmI don't need a pill cuz I'm always chill, but since I am also a father and an adult here I will treat this post with the seriousness you deserve.Sorry you found it rude for me and others to consider your guest chars crappy compilation material, but that's the way things go...and also, I guess I do have some say into this project because I make the palettes here and talk to BC and the rest of the SFA4 gang every now and then to check on the project direction and status.Happy New Year to you and yours...Good day sir.
FeLo_Llop said, January 03, 2011, 09:59:52 pm- OhzemesmoSTREET FIGHTERIS NOT SNK!Man!! Street Fighter is a CAPCOM videogame, not your ZOMG!! COMPILATIONZZZ!!!Hey Fel_Lop & MaxBeta, what is wrong in what Ohzemesmo said? Sorry, I didn't get the reason for such overreacted posts.He is giving some ideas, some are guests and non story-related (Dunno about CapCommando, but Sho is a student on the what was Guy's ninja academy, as said on NXC) and maybe it can't fits very well, but I don't think we need this.QuoteI make the palettes here and talk to BC and the rest of the SFA4 gang every now and then to check on the project direction and status.And I authorized BC to use some stuff, but I don't talk like this.Serious guys, almost everyone who posted on the last topics are someone that I respect, specially Fel_Lop and Ohzemesmo, which are my friends.So, lets back on the rails, ok?
Yah Ilu, one thing is giving ideas, and another is trying to make someone's project a ZOMGfest.I don't have anything against Ohzemesmo, just wanted to keep things in its way.You know, I'm a Tekken&SF junkie, so things like those annoys me !
Dude, i'm agreed with you all the way. Dispite Snake, that was just a for fun sugestion, i'm also a purist. Snake in my view would be a Darth Vader on Soul Calibur type of thing, stupid, non-canon secret.But, most of my sugestion we're canon. Sho is related with Guy. There some others that make cameos on other games.My only real request for this game was Haggar. Because he's must have and has been neglected from every figthing game Capcom has made.
QuoteMy only real request for this game was Haggar. Because he's must have and has been neglected from every figthing game Capcom has made.That is true!
Ohzemesmo said, January 04, 2011, 12:36:10 amMy only real request for this game was Haggar. Because he's must have and has been neglected from every figthing game Capcom has made.+1
Ohzemesmo said, January 04, 2011, 12:36:10 amBut, most of my sugestion we're canon. Sho is related with Guy. There some others that make cameos on other games.It can happen if one really wanted to.Bases are Sho (obviously), Guy, and Ibuki with some Sodom arms depending on how you feel. I'd say Kenji from Red Earth for the sword attacks.
Correct me if in wrong but a think Sho or Strider makes a cameo on Ken stage on SFA 2, the boat party stage.By the way, that's an awesome Sho! Koju, have you ever tried a Reki? I believe you can do he justice. There's some pretty good chars on Slam Masters too. Astro, Stingrey, that crazy kabuki dude, F...ing HAGGAR! Hahahaha!About FF chars, Prime Op has made a lot of concept edits that are open source. Also found this topic with some edits that might interest you, BC.http://forum.paodemugen.com.br/index.php?showtopic=7323&st=0
Awesome Sho, Koju .About the stage he appears in, is stated just as a bonus(or else) where pleople's apprearances are not canon. For example, Darkstalkers happens 10 years before SF and the game Sho comes from, goes 20 years after SF3. So, Sho would be, as much, a baby in SFZ time line. Probably, he can time travel but...no one knows.- Ohze: Reki doesn't exists. It's Geki !
BC said, December 23, 2010, 05:21:36 amSonicstar3000 said, December 22, 2010, 02:01:45 pmI think you should add Alex, Sean, Twelve, Ibuki, (Loads of SF3 Characters later...)and Makoto, But seriously, Alpha 4 Sounds prettey cool and i would love to be of help AFAIK someone (I think marancv) converted some 3S characters into alpha style. Though they still contain lots of frames so they would stick out like a sore thumb, but then the solution would be to reduce the frames.The 4th build (final) of this game is supposed to feature over 40+ characters, it would be cool to add some 3S characters or guest characters but as Cybaster said it wouldn't really be "alpha" anymore..@ NG30Thanks man and I will do k, have you got Ingrid from SFA3 In it? she was my fav.
Ingrid is extremely cheap and unbalanced. Reki, where did I get that?! HAHAHAHAHA!Geki is also a great design go to waste. Sho time traveling could be easily explain as a malfunction on the Psycho Drive at Shadaloo's base.
Sonicstar3000 said, January 05, 2011, 08:19:45 pmBC said, December 23, 2010, 05:21:36 amSonicstar3000 said, December 22, 2010, 02:01:45 pmI think you should add Alex, Sean, Twelve, Ibuki, (Loads of SF3 Characters later...)and Makoto, But seriously, Alpha 4 Sounds prettey cool and i would love to be of help AFAIK someone (I think marancv) converted some 3S characters into alpha style. Though they still contain lots of frames so they would stick out like a sore thumb, but then the solution would be to reduce the frames.The 4th build (final) of this game is supposed to feature over 40+ characters, it would be cool to add some 3S characters or guest characters but as Cybaster said it wouldn't really be "alpha" anymore..@ NG30Thanks man and I will do k, have you got Ingrid from SFA3 In it? she was my fav.Unfortunately I know nothing about her gameplay, I've never used her as I've only played sfa3 on mame/kawaks and sfa3 on the ps1.I'd have to get the psp version or something and take a look. I'm not overly interested in her though but we'll see.I would love to add the sf1 cast too but finding a spriter willing to take on such a task is very slim.
She was plugged into A3 Max? I think? After Evolution/Jam failed hard. Im not sure why everyone hates her(kind of like Athena...). She's one of my favorites. So did SSF4 reset some of what was actually canon?
- Uche: Is stated in the SF plot guide(by vasili and etc) that Ingrid is now...canon. But her appearance retcons A LOT of things in SFZ saga O.o- Lost Avenger: SF4&SSF4 retcons a lot of stuff of the WHOLE SF universe. Dan never beating Sagat, the extinction of the Dolls project and some other stuff in SFZ seems to be...forgotten. In SFZ Dan "beats" Sagat(he left him to win, in order to acomplish is avenge), and you CLEARLY see that Cammy "sacrifices" herself for saving the other 12 Dolls in the Psycho Drive. Don't talk about Rose&Vega(dictator)'s death, Gouken's death, etc...
- I'ven if Ingrid is cannon, which a believe is not, she still is really unbalanced for a SFA game. - SF4 threw away most of the cannon storyline in favor of a all-star, fan fave, dream match game. Much like kof 98. I don't think SF4 should be used as basis for cannon, since this is SFA.
Ingrid can be balanced easily... I dont know how good she was in Alpha 3 though.I was more concerned with how much time NOW passes between SF4 and SF3. Cause 20 years would make no sense unless Dudley and company can magically not age much. Im guessing maybe 4 years instead?When does Alpha 4 actually take place timeline wise? Cause it might make a difference lol. BC was using some SF4 stuff so yeah.Arent 2 of the dolls mentioned in SF4/SSF4? T.Hawk's lady interest/whatever she is to him(Juli) and Juni was seen in the hospital, but I dont remember which game off the top of my head. Is that what you meant by Sacrifice? Gouken's death was explaned as "sleeping" if I remember right
SF4 happens between SF2 and SF3. But they mutilate many of original cannon storyline to make it fit. - M. Bison/Vega uses Roses body on SF2 and gets killed by Gouki/Akuma.- Rose is dead/possessed by M.Bison at the end of SFA3.- Guy is probably dead after a encounter with possessed Rose.- Sagat has regenerate as a good guy in SFA 3There's plenty of other stuff that Capcom threw away because fans wouldn't receive well a SF4 game without it's favorite chars. SF4 is more a SF2.5, mix with some new stuff. If the current storyline was continued, Ryu is training with Oro, Alez is probably the new main character, Chun-li is retired, Ken too... And so on.You should check Tiamat's FAQ on SF. It's pretty complete.
QuoteBeta 2:Updating later....there will be 40+ characters by the time the project is done.Though while we're on the subject I'd like to mention to everyone that this project is on hold for a while. Real life stuff has caught up with me so I need to sort things out before I'm back online full time.It's not dead just on hold.. which means no I haven't abandoned or quit.
Take care of business and return when can. Real life issues are more important and I understand what your talking about.
yudhiyou said, March 29, 2011, 11:43:03 amThe title is Street Fighter Alpha 4 but the roster are lesser than Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX. So what? Vega(dictator) is supposed to be death from SFZ3 to SF2, Dolls has been free, canon stuff that not much people takes care of. Ohzemesmo has told a lot of things that are real, so: I suggest you to read Tiamat's Plot Guide.BC said, March 29, 2011, 07:04:43 pmThough while we're on the subject I'd like to mention to everyone that this project is on hold for a while. Real life stuff has caught up with me so I need to sort things out before I'm back online full time.It's not dead just on hold.. which means no I haven't abandoned or quit.OK brother take your time. I have been SO bussy this week(and this one doesn't looks so promising ) so I haven't finished "that" Hope you have good time!!
Hey BC you have worked your ass of, you deserve a break my friand And I'm looking forward to your return Since this also is the thread of Roster, here is my Hope list ^^ (since you said there where some supriser) I do NOT expect these to be in the game because I mention them but those are my dream Characters to appear in a new Street Fighter Alpha Game 8)Here My Hope's Are:Retsu (SF1) : I've asked you about him and that's when you mention about the secret/unvield characters so I have a hope here Lee (SF1) : I just love this guy but I don't know why, it would been epic see him fight Gen,Yun and Yang Geki (SF1) : One of the coolest characters that came out of the first Street Fighter Game... never returned again ... But that's what mugen is for 8)Damnd (FF) : I know he ain't from Street Fighter but from Final Fight.. but Guy,Cody,Sodom and Rolento came in so then Damnd should have a chance, but he might get hard to make so not to expectations about him...Sawada (SFTM) : He was only in the Mortal Kombat Street Fighter version.. but would been awsome to see a return of the solider Cyber Charlie (Cameo in one of the Marvel vs Capcom I think) : After the terror of Bison and what he possible did to Charlie was that he made a Cyber Charlie Rufus, El Fuerte, Hakkan, Yuri, Abel, C.Viper and Seth (SFIV/SSFIV) : There in the newest SF game so wouldn't suprise me if one of these would make an entry, but it's totaly BC's choice There might be more but hell... these are the one's I'm hoping the most of Enjoy your break BC, Looking forward to your return 8)
^ Well, I can assure you that of all the ones you mentioned here maybe 1 of those is going to make the final roster...but you won't be able to play that char until at least one of the later, if not Final Build of the game, since most of those characters require A LOT of work...SFA Spriting from the ground up, Sounds, Coding...the whole nine yards.@BCI know how it can be brother. Its only natural that you take your time to sort out your personal things. Just remember I'm always an email away whenever you plan to get the cavalry up and working together again on this here mujinz.
Thanks for the support guys I like that Zombie Sagat edit, looks cool. (look like it has MK9 damage system applied )
yeah I had an idea of making a zombie related SF game where some of the SF cast are zombies sept the boss characters cuz it's their doing in the first place(non-canon to the sf timelinejust an idea thoughgood work on SFA4 man...
u need to put in sakura, cammy,dan,evil ryu, evil ken, dark sakura, gen,guile,fei long, vega, E.honda,blanka,dhalsim, balrog,shin akuma,dark chun li(shadow lady),Evil dan,Karin,Charlie,mech zangief,dark cammy,evil Sagat,Evil Bison,Evil vega,Ultimate Ryu,Ultimate akuma, Ultimate ken ,Ultimate sakura,Ultimate dan and cody. i know its alot but it's 40 characters and that breaks the street fighter roster record. take my advice. good job so far by the way.
No. There shouldnt be edits in a full game(Shin, Evil, Orochi, Level 2, dark, vegan, etc). It just becomes silly at that point. This already has a pretty large roster as is. Im ok with certain ones are long as they were in the original game(In this case, Evil Ryu and Shin Akuma. I think there was an alternate Dictator also. I dont remember).
I think it was called Shin Bison or Ex Bison but it still showed only "Bison" on the display....I have sfa3max on psp and can check if you want
I had a feeling there was an alt Dictator. Final Bison? I dont remember. Now if they are palettes that's a completely different story. Im totally fine with that. Not everybody needs a teleport and air fireball lol
Jfingas said, May 01, 2011, 03:00:29 amu need to put in sakura, cammy,dan,evil ryu, evil ken, dark sakura, gen,guile,fei long, vega, E.honda,blanka,dhalsim, balrog,shin akuma,dark chun li(shadow lady),Evil dan,Karin,Charlie,mech zangief,dark cammy,evil Sagat,Evil Bison,Evil vega,Ultimate Ryu,Ultimate akuma, Ultimate ken ,Ultimate sakura,Ultimate dan and cody. i know its alot but it's 40 characters and that breaks the street fighter roster record. take my advice. good job so far by the way.And of course, NUDE OROCHI GALS[/LOL]
If BC has suprises, We should really wait what he has. With time, He can improve and change his idea's since they arent announced yet. This is also good for not getting dissapointed. I just like the fact that he plans to have guest Characters aswell. I am not going to tell him something like "add him, or her." I will just say: I hope to see some SF Characters from decent SF Games to have fans from these era's included aswell.
Staubhold said, May 02, 2011, 08:48:58 pmWell... there will be NO Ultimate chars or Evil Dan/Akuma/Vega/blah in there.WHAAAAAAAAT?!?!Then that means...No Ultimate Double Stacker Triple Lariat Red Cyclone Champion BBQ Zangief? Deal with it, smoochies.
Staubhold said, May 02, 2011, 08:48:58 pmWell... there will be NO Ultimate chars or Evil Dan/Akuma/Vega/blah in there.But blease put Blah's normal form in there.I'm kidding. No angry replies.
MaxBeta said, May 02, 2011, 09:26:34 pmUltimate Blah...make him a boss character. 8)I haven't actually seen Blah. Can someone post the fighting stance?
I found a screenshot of Blah from the unreleased alpha of Street Fighter 3 Online:He's Gouki and Gouken neighbor! A lovable baker who fell to the darkside of the Satsui no hadou when he had to defeat his rival in order to win the 32nd annual Shotokan Baked Goods Fight to the Finish!Interesting note, his hair smells like marmalade.[I couldn't help myself] ---------On topic, do you have a storyline in mind for this game, or is this like a dream match type of game?
Shockdingo said, May 06, 2011, 12:42:11 amI found a screenshot of Blah from the unreleased alpha of Street Fighter 3 Online:He's Gouki and Gouken neighbor! A lovable baker who fell to the darkside of the Satsui no hadou when he had to defeat his rival in order to win the 32nd annual Shotokan Baked Goods Fight to the Finish!Interesting note, his hair smells like marmalade.[I couldn't help myself] ---------On topic, do you have a storyline in mind for this game, or is this like a dream match type of game?Thank you SO much. I needed to see what Blah looked like
Shockdingo said, May 06, 2011, 12:42:11 amI found a screenshot of Blah from the unreleased alpha of Street Fighter 3 Online:He's Gouki and Gouken neighbor! A lovable baker who fell to the darkside of the Satsui no hadou when he had to defeat his rival in order to win the 32nd annual Shotokan Baked Goods Fight to the Finish!Interesting note, his hair smells like marmalade.[I couldn't help myself] ---------On topic, do you have a storyline in mind for this game, or is this like a dream match type of game?"Interesting note, his hair smells like marmalade."that is interesting because so does mine! about the story line I haven't got a scooby doo at the moment who knows. I'll probably get back onto the game once mech gief is out. He's gonna be in the game too by the way.
People say this is the timelineMuscle Bomber (1981)Super MB (1982)Street Fighter & Final Fight (1987)FF2 (1988)SF Zero 1 & 2 (1988-1989)SFZ3 (late 1989 - early 1990)FF3 (1991)SF2 series (1993)SF4 (1994)SSF4 (1995)SF3 New Generation/2nd Impact (1998)SF3 3rd Strike (1999)FF Streetwise (around 2006)
zombiejerky said, June 07, 2011, 03:28:21 amPeople say this is the timelineMuscle Bomber (1981)Super MB (1982)Street Fighter & Final Fight (1987)FF2 (1988)SF Zero 1 & 2 (1988-1989)SFZ3 (late 1989 - early 1990)FF3 (1991)SF2 series (1993)SF4 (1994)SSF4 (1995)SF3 New Generation/2nd Impact (1998)SF3 3rd Strike (1999)FF Streetwise (around 2006)Yes, its been discussed many times and people will keep saying it.The reality is that nothing in the SF universe really has a set timeline unles you divide each series into itself. Its more about how Universaly Flexible the characters themselves were made to be towards the test of time...kinda like cartoon caracters...they don't really age, but the story always changes a bit.It is very true that in many instances the characters display aging like for example Gouki's hair in the SF3 series, and of course the notable growth seen in Ryu and Ken throughout, but how can one really set a timeline when other characters like Sakura never seem to change.You expect to believe that Sakura Kasugano is still wearing her trademark high school uniform since 1988 and doesn't appear to be done with high school yet in 1995? That's both dissapointing and dumb for a Japanese person, not to mention unrealistic.And Final Fight, Muscle Bomber and Street Fighter only blend well because all games are Capcom property and were franchise games started around the same year....The blending of these franchises was more like fan service.
zombiejerky said, June 07, 2011, 03:28:21 amPeople say this is the timelineMuscle Bomber (1981)Super MB (1982)Street Fighter & Final Fight (1987)FF2 (1988)SF Zero 1 & 2 (1988-1989)SFZ3 (late 1989 - early 1990)FF3 (1991)SF2 series (1993)SF4 (1994)SSF4 (1995)SF3 New Generation/2nd Impact (1998)SF3 3rd Strike (1999)FF Streetwise (around 2006)What I hate about this is how they judge SF3 and SFIV by "Sagat was good in SF3"Can't he change it?
technically sagat was either dead or missing in SF3. since SF3 takes place after SF4.also maybe sakura has a school girl fetish? she likes wearing a skirt, attract men just to beat em up.
Ok, I will say this once again.There's absolutely no canon across these games except that most of them use some events from SF1 as a point of origin.Now that we're talking about Sagat, I'll give you a good example that serves as proof.Everybody knows that in SF1 Sagat got scarred by Ryu's Shoryuken manifested through the dark hadou, making Ryu very lucky to be the champion of that SF tournament. After those events, SF2's events are supposed to follow suit, however...sometime ago CAPCOM declared SF2 and all its other ramifications (champion ed, turbo, hyper, super, rainbow, horseshoes, clovers) NON CANON.Why? Because they tried to fix the story to make more sense with the Zero/Alpha series. Which BTW, Zero/Alpha series take place immediately after SF1 but NEVER before SF2...in any case, they REPLACE SF2 and all the events that happened in it with a new story. The best proof of this is indeed found in Sagat's Zero/Alpha story where in SFZ/A3 he departs with Ryu in amicable terms saying that he wants to finish their match someday *cough cough SFIV cough*. On the other side, in SF2 Sagat hates Ryu as much as everybody in the Mishima family hates each other. For all we know Sagat probably doesn't even exist in SF3 series...there is absolutely NO mention of him in it...not even a cameo..NOTHING. There's also no mention of Ryu or Ken trying to avenge Gouken by pursuing Akuma...there's also no mention of chun-li trying to avenge her father...there's no mention of M. Bison (dictator) or Shadoloo for that matter, No Guile, No etc etc. It's all loose canon in SF3 series. SF3 is so isolated that you may even say it doesn't need SF1 as a point of reference. It is a completely new and different story built around the characters we already knew. It is a broken link in the Street Fighter universe...as much as I love it, sometimes I feel that Capcom didn't even make this game.Ryon, that's cool about Sakura bro...but maybe its you with the schoolgirl fetish?
MaxBeta said, June 15, 2011, 04:31:16 amthere's also no mention of chun-li trying to avenge her father...there's no mention of M. Bison (dictator) or Shadoloo for that matterExcept Chun Li vs Urien's pre-fight quote:QuoteChun Li: I don't know what your scheme is, but I can't let you harm small children! Where is that girl?Urien: How could you ask to see me for such a trifle thing? You must be a fool! I'll give you the girl, but you must entertain me in return. Your legendary legs are said to have destroyed "that organization." Let me find out for myself, if the rumors about you are true...Hinting Shadowlaw? The continuity in SF has sense IMHO. Some of the facts in SF2 has changed because SFZ3 retcon and all. In SF4, for example, there's A LOT of retcones(dolls, sagat, dan, etc), but most of them has no sense, E.G: Gouken. Hello? Dragon Balls has resurrected him? !
Ryon said, June 15, 2011, 03:50:20 amtechnically sagat was either dead or missing in SF3. since SF3 takes place after SF4.also maybe sakura has a school girl fetish? she likes wearing a skirt, attract men just to beat em up.He could have stopped fighting. hen made a comeback. There is no actual proof of any Timeline. I think we need Ono's advice. O-O
Hinting Shadowlaw? The continuity in SF has sense IMHO. Some of the facts in SF2 has changed because SFZ3 retcon and all. In SF4, for example, there's A LOT of retcones(dolls, sagat, dan, etc), but most of them has no sense, E.G: Gouken. Hello? Dragon Balls has resurrected him? ![/quote]First of all Gouken was never dead. He used the power of Nothingness to empty his soul. He was put into a comma and finally woke up during the time street fighter 4. I watch the series so nobody can tell me I'm wrong.
your wrong.capcom never intended to make him, due to horrid translations, there was a unnamed Sheng Long character thats suppose to be in the game. rumor rumor rumor years pass, capcom said screw it! lets make Gouken and give him a story that makes no sense.so in a sense he appeared from nothingness.
In order for any timeline to make sense now, you have to consider SF3 as non canon anyway. At least the 20 years part. Gouken was a fan service. As far as Sakura's outfit... she might just feel most comfortable in it? Ryu doesnt have to wear the outfit he does, he could probably fight without a shirt or something and be just as good. It could be a symbolic thing or something. I wear a headband when I do most things for instance. -shrug-
Jfingas said, June 25, 2011, 06:17:10 pmFirst of all Gouken was never dead. He used the power of Nothingness to empty his soul. He was put into a comma and finally woke up during the time street fighter 4. I watch the series so nobody can tell me I'm wrong.First of all, Gouken died because of the Shun Goku Satsu. The ONLY character that has survived it, it's gen, because he knew the process of the SGS. If Gouken hasn't died, Ryu would not want to avenge his master(Gouken), who DIED at Gouki's hands. This is a FACT and it's part of the CANON, so I CAN SAY YOU'RE WRONG.As Lost_Avenger said, Gouken s just a mere fanservice, as Heihachi was in Tekken 5(he never entered KOIFT 5), but he's in the game because of the fans.SF4 has a lot of mistakes in the story so, don't try to correct people who has been in SF since SF1 About the series...Well, it starts one year after the events of SF2(as they say!!) so there's something that troubles me...if Eliza9(Ken's wife) was pregnant during SF2 and a pregnacy state are...9 months...Did Mel need 21 months to get out of that bitch? wow!! I have seen the series, so nobody can tell I'm wrong!!
Actually you all talk bollocks....-Ryu died at the end of SF2 because Blanka let out a huge fart after eating too many watermelons and it blew the top of his skull off.-Gouken isn't dead him and Akuma had a heart to heart about his anger after Akuma sprained his ankle while attempting the SGS.-Gen wasn't even in SFA because he underwent a heart bypass so his twin brother Dave had to step in... Gen actually has ginger hair.No one can tell me I'm wrong because I AM Street Fighter, I am GAME.
Yup...You tell them how it is brodah!You fellas best not forget that BC works at Capcom and he knows all the dirty bits.Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty photobucket can be a great thing...when it works.and FeLo, you're totally right about that "other organization" bit in SF3's ChunLi's story...I had totally disregarded that because I never play her in the game.
Hence the "E" in E. Honda for "ENORMOUS" inb4 "its not for Enormous its for Edmund bla bla bla bla I Know my SF better than you can count your fingers bla bla yadda yadda"@BCYou best tell Ono not to get him NewYork Cheesecake for those top secret conference meetings....BTW, its awkward enough for me to picture E.Honda fitting in that little room.
You think you feel akward?! You aint the one who's brain gave a mental image of his enormous turd without consent
ok so all the off topic talk aside.Myself and BC have gotten back into spirit with this game. and the roster is still mainly gonna be huge.However demo 1, will feature several changes that we didnt plan but it works out well this way. I'll let BC elaborate about the changes.
Jfingas said, July 02, 2011, 04:34:29 pmKen thought he was dead because he saw Gouken Flat on the floor in a pool of blood. He then went after Gouki and was easily defeated. Ryu then found out about it later. He then followed gouki to his island. After they fought Akuma abandoned Ryu on the island. During SF4 Gouken came back and thought Ryu the Jodan Sokutou Geri, Denjin Hadouken, and The ShinShoryuken.Very nice, but SF4 story sucks, it has a lot of holes and makes a lot of mistakes in the plot. That's the main thing.Ryon said, July 02, 2011, 08:05:32 pmMyself and BC have gotten back into spirit with this game. and the roster is still mainly gonna be huge.Awesome !! I'm not sure if you have considered my version of "G", I have to talk with both you about it QuoteHowever demo 1, will feature several changes that we didnt plan but it works out well this way. I'll let BC elaborate about the changes.Cool!! We'll be waiting !!
Segatron said, October 06, 2011, 12:42:05 pmHey you should add or make SF Ex characters.....Since these characters are sidelinedAnd you should shut up. Why don't you try to make a single sprite?Then, you'll be able to talk, since you don't know how much does cost making something. Oh wait...you just wait for people to do stuff and then, download!! Awesome man, awesome!!
^ A kid bumped it, thinking he's on the wave and BC will work on those SFEX just because that kid wants ¬¬X
Stop worrying about necro-bumps and locking topics. If you want a topic to be locked or a moderator to notice necro-bumps, then use the report function.Your posts just clutter the topic either further and are completely and utterly useless. Not to mention that this is the full game area.Don't do it anymore.
I just have a question will Rose be in the final roster? since she became my favourite in SFIV and in SFZ/A series
Siriously why not include Q?Hes the first of the "new generation" to appear in SFAnd he was both in SF3 and SF 2!
SIRIUS BLACK!!!Seriously, why resurrecting a topic which is 5 months dead. Just to say "HI, I WANT Q".About Q being in SF2...it's just a coincidence. It's as if you say Enjo and Geki being the same person, just because Enjo wears purple and claws, but Enjo is from Ibuki's town.
Because Q is freakin' epic. He was based on the conspiracy of the Ken Stage character though, I think.
