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[Solved]Now I believe the MUGEN 1.1 crash without error is character related. (Read 3523 times)

Started by beterhans, April 27, 2020, 11:17:30 AM
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[Solved]Now I believe the MUGEN 1.1 crash without error is character related.
New #1  April 27, 2020, 11:17:30 AM
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recently I found if I load some certain characters MUGEN 1.1 will crash easily (Already applied 4G patch)
most of them are KOF characters.

so I did a test within all my characters
I found my AWK Morrigan is a Suspect too.
compare to my other characters she can crash mugen 1.1b within 2-3 times of Shift-F4
(1st time is always OK)
and MUGEN 1.1b will NOT give out any error for that, just crash.


maybe later I'll do some more testing too find with part caused the crash....

-------- Issue found in later post and I solved it ----




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Last Edit: July 22, 2020, 06:06:51 AM by beterhans
Re: Now I believe the MUGEN 1.1 crash without error is character related.
#2  April 27, 2020, 12:35:29 PM
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I am surprised that even with 4GB patch applied, it still crash  :S Anyway, Ikaruga's characters are one of them that cause the crash problem. I believe you have Ikaruga's characters in your roster. I remember I removed almost every codes in his characters' cns, cmd files, the problem still exists, maybe it has to do with the air file? If I remember correctly, before Ikaruga added spectators to his kof98's characters, it didn't have this problem. After Ikaruga added spectators and updated his other characters, this crash problem occurs frequently.
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Re: Now I believe the MUGEN 1.1 crash without error is character related.
#3  April 27, 2020, 01:49:12 PM
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I am surprised that even with 4GB patch applied, it still crash  :S Anyway, Ikaruga's characters are one of them that cause the crash problem. I believe you have Ikaruga's characters in your roster. I remember I removed almost every codes in his characters' cns, cmd files, the problem still exists, maybe it has to do with the air file? If I remember correctly, before Ikaruga added spectators to his kof98's characters, it didn't have this problem. After Ikaruga added spectators and updated his other characters, this crash problem occurs frequently.

Yes most KOF char are from Ikaruga
I'll look into the air file of my morrigan too.
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Re: Now I believe the MUGEN 1.1 crash without error is character related.
#4  April 27, 2020, 04:56:35 PM
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MUGEN CTD's are very rare, especially after version 1.0 and should continue that way through 1.1...

My question is: did you check the error logs?
I think checking that would be the first priority.
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#5  April 29, 2020, 06:24:51 AM
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My question is: did you check the error logs?
I think checking that would be the first priority.
Thanks I'll do


maybe it has to do with the air file?
You are correct!
It's because of AIR file!

Here is how I found the problem

1. Load problem character vs a different OK character
2. Shift + F4 reload 2-3 times
3. until mugen 1.1 crash without error.

open the Mugen.log file

you will find

Reloading match
Unloading match assets
Freeing players
Unloading stage...OK
Reset persist vars team 0
Reset persist vars team 1
Freeing player RC Ryu...CMD...CNS...SFF...AIR...SND...Misc...OK
Freeing player RC Morrigan_Aensland...CMD...CNS...SFF...AIR...


the OK one should looks like
Reloading match
Unloading match assets
Freeing players
Unloading stage...OK
Reset persist vars team 0
Reset persist vars team 1
Freeing player RC Ryu...CMD...CNS...SFF...AIR...SND...Misc...OK
Freeing player RC Morrigan_Aensland...CMD...CNS...SFF...AIR...SND...Misc...OK
Loading match assets...
Loading stage...
  Loading BG...OK




After study the Air file

I found here is the problem

1 there is number at start of the file remove it.
2
; Stand Turn
[Begin Action 5]
Clsn2Default: 1
  Clsn2[0] = -13, -85, 20, 0
Clsn2: 1
  Clsn2[0] = -2, -90, 34, 0
5,0, 0,0, 3
Clsn2: 1
  Clsn2[0] = -4, -90, 33, 1
5,0, 0,0, 3

5,1, 0,0, 3
5,2, 0,0, 3

TWO CLSN2[0] under same frame!

remove and correct it solved crash issue!


I believe this is caused by Fighter factory 3
since I never manually edit the AIR file.

but very hard too spot it.

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Re: [Solved]Now I believe the MUGEN 1.1 crash without error is character related.
#6  April 29, 2020, 10:57:39 PM
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Usually I just do

ctrl+H Clsn2: (MUST HAVE COLON!) and replace with Clsn2Default: (AGAIN, MUST HAVE COLON to prevent empty hitboxes or other errors.)

Not really the best way to fix it, but its the only quick and easy way to fix .AIR files for me. If this doesn't seem to work for you, then it was a good enough suggestion.
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Re: [Solved]Now I believe the MUGEN 1.1 crash without error is character related.
#7  April 30, 2020, 07:07:09 AM
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Try IKEMEN. Same character in IKEMEN works well. Ikaruga's character has a lot of air problem to crash M.U.G.E.N. Same example: if you use his Kyo02UM fight with iori02UM, when kyo use →↓→X skill, M.U.G.E.N will crash. The solution is use FF3 to re edit his →↓→X anim.
Re: [Solved]Now I believe the MUGEN 1.1 crash without error is character related.
#8  May 01, 2020, 03:04:42 AM
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Last Edit: May 01, 2020, 03:10:12 AM by beterhans
Re: [Solved]Now I believe the MUGEN 1.1 crash without error is character related.
#9  May 05, 2020, 07:03:54 AM
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I remember when I have only Muteki, GM and Warusaki3's characters in my Mugen, it don't crash. After adding Ikaruga's kof characters, it crash. The crash problem when playing Arcade mode was after a few certain stages like around after four or five fights, it crash no matter which opponent I fought throughout the fight and it often crash around the forth to fifth stage iirc. I have not check out the fix yet, I will check it out if I have free time, cool to see a fix for this, thanks  :) I suggest this topic to be stick since the crash problem is very common in Mugen nowadays.
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Re: [Solved]Now I believe the MUGEN 1.1 crash without error is character related.
#10  May 05, 2020, 01:54:17 PM
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I remember when I have only Muteki, GM and Warusaki3's characters in my Mugen, it don't crash. After adding Ikaruga's kof characters, it crash. The crash problem when playing Arcade mode was after a few certain stages like around after four or five fights, it crash no matter which opponent I fought throughout the fight and it often crash around the forth to fifth stage iirc. I have not check out the fix yet, I will check it out if I have free time, cool to see a fix for this, thanks  :) I suggest this topic to be stick since the crash problem is very common in Mugen nowadays.

yeah but people may only fix their favourite character only
for example the Ikaruga's characters. it's quite a commitment of time you need to spend on it.
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