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Started by 外音リザ, January 22, 2006, 05:33:48 pm
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Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#61  February 14, 2006, 10:42:11 pm
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Alright, settle down.

AeroGP: Really, the best thing to do is listen to the song and find where it loops.  I know, it's a long a boring process, but the end results are worth it.  What kind of song, or what song, is it that doesn't have a loop?

OrochiKOFXI: Actually, he could try BeatX Seamless Looper, but I wouldn't want him spending money for something that can be done for free.  Also, there are plenty of song that can't be looped.  For all we know, he could be trying to loop a mainstream song that you might hear on the radio/CD or something like that.  We must ask first in order to help him out.

Midori: That might not be possible.  Unforunately, a game making program can only do so much.  This is why I wish I knew Visual C++ or Visual Basic.  For now, stuff like loop-point recognition can't be done due to programming limitations.  The only way to do that is to call an external program to auto-find the loop region and I don't think there is such a program in command-line format.  We'll see what develops as the project progresses.  Laterz~

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AeroGP

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#62  February 14, 2006, 10:55:45 pm
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They're mostly official and arranged soundtrack songs from other fighting games, such as the CvS player select screen. I predicted the loop point and set it up, but not only did the engine skip the specified point, but it crashed once the song ended. :(


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Jesse~

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#63  February 14, 2006, 10:58:45 pm
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Oew...hmm...

Well, what I can do for you is take a look at the source files (the songs you want to work with) and see where the loop points are, if any.  You can upload them via yousendit.com or savefile.com and PM me the link.  I've been working on looping music for years now.  Anyways, send them on over and I can help you.  Laterz~

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外音リザ

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#64  February 15, 2006, 02:14:53 am
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I recall another friend of mine who is into programming mention he added loop point in WAVs with just notepad. XD

On another note, Immaterial and Missing Power BGMs are big space hogs. They loop after the 2nd cycle of the song, which results to disk space waste. :\
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Jesse~

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#65  February 15, 2006, 11:18:38 pm
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Well, yeah, you can have loop points put into a text file so that the frontend can read it, but in order for the loop points to be placed on the text file, you need a program that can find the loop points, set the values to the file (ie. loop_pts.txt) and then have the frontend call the values automatically, but I don't think there's a small external program that can do that.  I'm sure that making a frontend in Vis C++ or Vis Basic is easy, but I need the skill, which I lack, to actually do it.  Mind you, I'll be learning Vis Basic soon, so when I get some programming knowledge under my belt, which won't take too long as I learn very quickly, then I'll be able to reprogram the frontend completely in Vis Basic and have it with the extra features you want.  Laterz~

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Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#66  February 16, 2006, 02:06:00 am
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Uh.. I can't Find The Software to Convert the WAVS to ADX... Where Can I find It...?

If It hasn't Hodt, I can Host it ok...?

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外音リザ

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#67  February 16, 2006, 04:47:28 am
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djDarkX said, February 15, 2006, 11:18:38 pm
Well, yeah, you can have loop points put into a text file so that the frontend can read it, but in order for the loop points to be placed on the text file, you need a program that can find the loop points, set the values to the file (ie. loop_pts.txt) and then have the frontend call the values automatically, but I don't think there's a small external program that can do that.  I'm sure that making a frontend in Vis C++ or Vis Basic is easy, but I need the skill, which I lack, to actually do it.  Mind you, I'll be learning Vis Basic soon, so when I get some programming knowledge under my belt, which won't take too long as I learn very quickly, then I'll be able to reprogram the frontend completely in Vis Basic and have it with the extra features you want.  Laterz~

djDarkX

Nice. Go, djdark! :D

If it helps, Microsoft has express versions of their visual C stuff, which means they're free. Might wanna check those out. :P
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Jesse~

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#68  February 16, 2006, 05:23:00 am
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Here's the new link to the frontend.  It is now in a zip file, so if you are using Windows 98/ME/2000, download Winzip or some other unzipping tool.  For WinXP users, use the integrated unzip tool or whatever software you want and extract the files to a folder and use it.  Simple.

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Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#69  February 16, 2006, 08:21:23 pm
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soooo Can I host it...?

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Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#70  February 16, 2006, 08:53:19 pm
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Roderiguezu Maruchinezu Arufunso said, February 16, 2006, 08:21:23 pm
soooo Can I host it...?

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Well, it's already hosted on savefile.com, so hosting it on another site doesn't seem too promising.  Eventually, I'll setup a free web account somewhere and host it there, so there's no need to host it anywhere else.  Thank you for the offer though.  Laterz~

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Jango

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#71  February 18, 2006, 01:38:00 am
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At the very bottom of the site that has in_cube.dll (This site), there's a tool for looping ADX programs. Has anyone tried that? (at a work computer so i can't do that)

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Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#72  February 18, 2006, 01:43:14 am
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Jango... Again... said, February 18, 2006, 01:38:00 am
At the very bottom of the site that has in_cube.dll (This site), there's a tool for looping ADX programs. Has anyone tried that? (at a work computer so i can't do that)

I have.  It only loops the said WAV file from start to end with no customizable loop points.  It's a great tool, but if you have an ADX file that has an intro then the loop, it's not useful.

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外音リザ

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#73  February 18, 2006, 01:39:55 pm
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MOUU!!!

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Do you have any other sound editing software other than sound forge? I just found out that some ADXs I encoded "clicks" upon looping. I NEVER hear these clicks in Sound Forge, thus, making the process an inevitable mistake. <_<
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Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#74  February 18, 2006, 01:44:48 pm
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Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#75  February 20, 2006, 07:33:00 am
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Midori Kasugano said, February 18, 2006, 01:39:55 pm
MOUU!!!

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Do you have any other sound editing software other than sound forge? I just found out that some ADXs I encoded "clicks" upon looping. I NEVER hear these clicks in Sound Forge, thus, making the process an inevitable mistake. <_<

That happened to me too...
BUT i figured the way to fix it.
While i was edited Dan's wav (i deleted 1 second of the song) with loop points and everything PERFECT,  but when i encoded the ADX i heard that clicking sound.
But i grabbed the Original WAV (the one with the Second i chopped off) and encoded it with the Loop Points i obtained: VOILA! Perfect Looping ADX, i think the Loop Points that SF gives you count the original WAV, so edit your WAV, re-open it and do the looping part.

Unless it's a problem of how SF saves the WAV (with MS of extra noise) but who knows. :P

Jesse~

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#76  February 20, 2006, 07:36:52 am
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Very nice solution.

If all else fails, I have a look into it using SoundForge.  Please keep me updated.

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Jesuszilla

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#77  February 20, 2006, 07:51:26 am
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Why is it that the ADX files I make from the WAV are always at a lower volume than the original?

Vans

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#78  February 20, 2006, 07:53:41 am
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Confirmed  :D
You edit your WAV first, save it and then you re-open it for the Loop part :sugoi: this is great bacause SoundForge makes PERFECT and very very accurate (and fast to make) loop points.

JZ: Don't now , i pass mine trough SoundForge's Volume Increase and they are Perfect.

Jesuszilla

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#79  February 20, 2006, 07:56:20 am
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I use the envelope tool in Audacity as well as use the gain bar on the left.


Always comes out lower for some reason.

Vans

Re: Using ADX instead of MP3 for your BGMs
#80  February 20, 2006, 07:59:05 am
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Weird, unless ADXencd contains a Tool that normalizes Peaks/Volumes/DB it will always Lower the Sound of the WAV, otherwise...

Switch to SoundForge, the Volume Gain option actually...works, give me sometime and i'll RAR up my version for you :ninja:

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