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(Sakura by BK) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality (Read 204923 times)

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Re: (Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#481  November 30, 2019, 08:48:52 PM
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Well for Cap. my plan was to make his Level 1 Hyper S&S either so only 2 S&Ss or keep it at 3 S&Ss but less hits like in UMvC3, then making the original super the Level 2 version.
As for Mai, I'm trying not to give her one too many supers, I just was put off by her Level 3 being a MAX Cho HSB, but I'll look into that when the time comes.
Another edit coming tonight, if I can get it out.

Ah, ok then. That sounds good.
I think one way you could get around Mai having too many moves/supers is to make an EX Mode for her, like SNK did in KOF 98/UM.
Using that game as an example, Normal Mode could have the Flip Kick DP, Hakuro no Mai, the triple fan throw, the Beni Suzaku air super, & the horizontal Chou Hisatsu Shinobi Batchi,
while the EX Mode could have Sayo Chidori, Hana Arashi, Kagero no Mai, & the rising Chou Hisatsu Shinobi Batchi.
Maybe you could do this for other edits in future updates, like giving Falcon Rapper’s Omega Rugal a 98 style non-Omega Rugal mode, or an EX Mode for Terry with stuff like the 98 Power Wave, the NGBC/SVC Power Geyser followups, & the KOF XIII/XIV Triple Geyser, just to throw out some ideas.

Oh, another new edit? That’s cool. What’s it of?
Last Edit: November 30, 2019, 09:10:43 PM by DauntlessMonk7
Re: (Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#482  November 30, 2019, 09:11:10 PM
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Well EX Modes are kinda inconvenient IMO because it may not have everyone's favorite moves the original misses and vice versa.
Re: (Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#483  November 30, 2019, 09:45:20 PM
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Well EX Modes are kinda inconvenient IMO because it may not have everyone's favorite moves the original misses and vice versa.

Yeah, that’s true in some cases.
Though on the other hand, if a character has too many moves at once, I believe it covers up their weaknesses & kind of makes them bloated & overpowered.

I was thinking about a way to get around this earlier.
It’s not really traditional “POTS style”, but i think it could work:
Making specials BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle style.

What i mean is arranging the specials so each button does a different special depending on the motion, & then having some really good specials cost a stock of meter, like EX moves. Using Rugal as an example:

QCF+A: Reppuken
QCF+B: 98’ Kaiser Wave
QCF+C: Gravity Smash (EX)

QCB+A: Dark Barrier
QCB+B: Vanishing Rush
QCB+C: Beast Destruction (EX)

And then if you want to add some extra utility to the normal specials, you could have it so they get buffed at low health or during Max Mode,
so Reppuken goes faster, Kaiser Wave is unblockable when fully charged like in 2002, Vanishing Rush launches, etc.

OHMSBY makes a lot of Cross Tag style Mugen characters, so you could use his characters as a reference point if you decide to try doing specials this way: http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/ohmsby-collection-184880.0.html
Last Edit: November 30, 2019, 09:52:00 PM by DauntlessMonk7
Re: (Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#484  November 30, 2019, 09:57:37 PM
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That might be a bit off-topic, but I may consider something similar when I get around to custom stuff, but I'd more be catering towards an MvC3 style if so.
(Alex + Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#485  November 30, 2019, 11:59:00 PM
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Alex just dropped, download and get Hyper Bomb'd.
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#486  December 01, 2019, 12:22:15 AM
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Alex just dropped, download and get Hyper Bomb'd.

I'm no expert on fighting games but I'm really enjoying your chars bro ur the best
been loving messing with Cap past few days keep doing what u do
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#487  December 01, 2019, 12:41:40 AM
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#488  December 01, 2019, 12:48:02 AM
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I don't know if this would be a difficult edit, but I think I have Hayato by varo_hades edited by BahamainKing100, while I don't know of any specific technical issues, he for some reason has a DREAM CANCEL image appear during a super cancel I believe, and for some reason his charge command isn't the usual y+b, I've tried altering the command, and in the CMD file it seems correct but it only works I think if you hold down 3 or 4 buttons B+X+Y (maybe A as well)
Re: (Alex + Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#489  December 01, 2019, 12:58:28 AM
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Ok, MAX Boomerang Raid fixed, I also somewhat fixed the missing afterimages on the Backdrop Bombs.

I don't know if this would be a difficult edit, but I think I have Hayato by varo_hades edited by BahamainKing100, while I don't know of any specific technical issues, he for some reason has a DREAM CANCEL image appear during a super cancel I believe, and for some reason his charge command isn't the usual y+b, I've tried altering the command, and in the CMD file it seems correct but it only works I think if you hold down 3 or 4 buttons B+X+Y (maybe A as well)

I dunno, BahamianKing plans to update him by himself soon, I heard that from him recently.
Re: (Alex + Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#490  December 01, 2019, 01:10:55 AM
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Ah thanks for the update, on Hayato. I'll be trying your update on Alex, he's one of my fave characters so I'm excited to see your edit in action.
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#491  December 01, 2019, 01:15:07 AM
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These char collection is very great!
Re: (Alex + Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#492  December 01, 2019, 02:48:14 AM
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Captain's been updated with Upwards Shield Slashes, but the EX version is gone for now.
Still not my Sunday best though, and a few of y'all do agree.
And still no news on the hitsparks.
Re: (Alex + Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#493  December 01, 2019, 07:46:06 PM
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Ok, MAX Boomerang Raid fixed, I also somewhat fixed the missing afterimages on the Backdrop Bombs.

I don't know if this would be a difficult edit, but I think I have Hayato by varo_hades edited by BahamainKing100, while I don't know of any specific technical issues, he for some reason has a DREAM CANCEL image appear during a super cancel I believe, and for some reason his charge command isn't the usual y+b, I've tried altering the command, and in the CMD file it seems correct but it only works I think if you hold down 3 or 4 buttons B+X+Y (maybe A as well)

I dunno, BahamianKing plans to update him by himself soon, I heard that from him recently.

yea thats my old edit. i remove those and fix commands back to normal long time. but i still plan to update him soon. he will be better than the last version i shared!

also i see on your wip edit list is felicia by varo. i plan to fix her up soon as well! swagga kings send me her to deal with her! i notice she has a few lil small issues to be fix! cant wait to show you guys my edits alex,sakura and felicia! alex was the only one i commission from varo back in 2012. i gt varo demitri to from swagga man he is to nice! ill share him to with swagga permission first since its his commission char from his Ds vs SF game! but good luck on your edits of them!
Last Edit: December 01, 2019, 07:51:13 PM by BahamianKing242
Re: (Alex + Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#494  December 02, 2019, 08:38:15 AM
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Aight...
Cap updated again.
Fixed the hitsparks after a lil' too long along with minor details.

Will get his Chain Combos poppin' soon.
Re: (Alex + Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#495  December 02, 2019, 09:19:37 AM
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Wen Zero? As I remember, you did have a poll back then, which Zero won. Ngl, seeing Zero in your poll was what made me decide to try your stuff beforehand as I'm quite curious about how a character like him could be translated into this style without losing his notable trait from source. It has been quite a while plus multiple releases later and I haven't seen any Zero's progress so far (even characters that lose the poll made it here before him, like Oni) so I'm kinda curious if he is cancelled or not.
Re: (Alex + Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#496  December 02, 2019, 09:22:45 AM
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Well Oni almost won so I decided ah I'll go for it.
Don't fear Mr, Zero will be in my grasp one day or another, it's just the process of making adjustments to him that's my fear.
Re: (Alex + Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#497  December 02, 2019, 09:19:59 PM
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Gotta say it's a good start with Alex, can't wait for the updates on him.
I'll test the update on Cap later.
Re: (Alex + Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#498  December 03, 2019, 12:30:15 AM
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One thing I'd recommend is just by default changing his scale a little bit because he seems a bit too wide compared to the CVS style characters
Re: (Alex + Captain America) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#499  December 03, 2019, 12:54:13 AM
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Here's my feedback on Alex:
-Stun Gun Headbutt has no landing effect if it misses and is unblockable when it hits.
-Stun Gun Headbutt has no envshake on each hit.
-Boomerang Raid has a lot of push back and is possible to grab the opponent on the last hit as it's unblockable.
-The special guard spark is played twice on the first hit of Boomerang Raid.
-Body Slam has a default strong ground shockwave along with the PotS styled one when the opponent gets thrown to the ground.
-There is no jump sound effect on Spiral D.D.T. and swing sound if it misses.
-The grab sound on Power Bomb can be heard twice if successful.
-Air Stampede has a normal ground shockwave effect instead of a strong one when he touches the ground (Not sure if there's supposed to be a strong ground shockwave sound effect on this move or the other way around).
-There is no dash effect on the startup of Slash Elbow.

Overall, it's good. But these things need to be looked at.
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#500  December 03, 2019, 01:39:21 AM
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I'll get to this when I can sir.

In other news, Omega Rugal's been updated.
His Supers no longer do godlike damage and a few nitpicks have been attended to.

I do hope to see Falcon's official update though.