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(Sakura by BK) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality (Read 208720 times)

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Re: (Evil Ken by Victorys) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#641  January 26, 2020, 06:11:03 AM
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All right, finally got the time to test him. Seems that you'll update Evil Ken with the Vic's new version so.
Last Edit: January 26, 2020, 06:15:05 AM by 【MFG】gui0007
Re: (Evil Ken by Victorys) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#642  January 26, 2020, 06:21:48 AM
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I was thinking since Victorys has released his Evil Ken that has Ex special moves, maybe I would like to suggest that if RagingRowan updates his Evil Ken, might as well have two types of Evil Kens like keeping this current Evil Ken and having another alternate Evil Ken that has EX special moves where player can hold start in the select screen to choose him or having alternate def such as ExEvilKen.def for instance.
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#643  January 27, 2020, 07:53:27 PM
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I was thinking since Victorys has released his Evil Ken that has Ex special moves, maybe I would like to suggest that if RagingRowan updates his Evil Ken, might as well have two types of Evil Kens like keeping this current Evil Ken and having another alternate Evil Ken that has EX special moves where player can hold start in the select screen to choose him or having alternate def such as ExEvilKen.def for instance.

I completely agree, please... consider this suggestion mate.
Re: (Evil Ken by Victorys) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#644  January 27, 2020, 08:04:39 PM
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Well Victorys' EX moves feel kinda generic, unless I make up my own.
If I were to update him with EX moves I may have the EX Shoryuken like in SFV where it's a 2-DP Shoryureppa (I did the same thing for my (slow) WIP Kage).

I made this update mostly because I felt he needed an AI and a few buffs.
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#645  January 27, 2020, 09:10:33 PM
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Ever thought about making his EX version of Tatsumaki Senpukyaku like MvC2? It'll be raw as f***
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#646  January 28, 2020, 12:29:46 AM
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Evil Ken does have the sprites for it, after all. I thought of something for the grounded EX Hadouken: Have him briefly charge up like it's a Shakunetsu Hadouken and fire it, except it explodes when it hits the opponent and knocks them back. You could do the same thing with EX Zanku Hadouken if you're not willing to switch the double Zanku for the EX.

My only real gripe with Evil Ken so far is that the Shoryukens launch the opponent before the third hit, but I think Vic had it like that too.
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#647  January 28, 2020, 01:22:11 AM
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Yeah, that's how I had it since Shoryukens behaved like that in CvS2.

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#648  January 28, 2020, 01:38:23 AM
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You could have his EX Seoi Shoryuken become perform-able(Maybe by using 3 punches or changing it's command) outside of an EX Shoryu and act more like a mini shinryuken.
Also could have EX Tenma Kujinkyaku light his fight on fire and deal multiple hits instead of just one.
Edit: Also I like the other alternate EX move ideas here.
Last Edit: January 28, 2020, 01:46:57 AM by Memes never die/Manby
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#649  January 28, 2020, 11:02:23 PM
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#651  February 02, 2020, 11:55:35 PM
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Alex updated, details in First Post.
A few issues still remain though.

For the Multi-Colored Hitsparks, which Alex now has. I plan to add them to Terry and Cammy, may do Goenitz aswell because he's missing Blue and Purple Slash sparks but has the rest.
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#652  February 03, 2020, 12:53:52 AM
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Just curious, why go with Varo's Alex instead of editing JZ's or GM's ?
I feel they are coded better and are a more solid base to go from.

Just grabbed Alex some feedback.
He feels really floaty when moving around his jump takes ages to falldown.
His frame data is really weird as well.
Crouching low kick is -7 ?
standing low kick was -5 ?

When you stand and hit low punch alex will grunt every single time. If you spam LP it just is grading on your ears.

While im shite with alex and cant give you like gameplay feedback I suggest going over the frame data and making it a bit more standard.

Here is Alex's frame data from 3rd strike while it wont fit with CVS it would be way better then the current one.
You can also play and view the hitboxes from here and can port them over really quick if you want to, you can slow down every anim to a single tick with the hitboxes turned on.

I remember mugen being weird with frame data and that you had to convert it or your char will be slow and shit but fuck me if I remember how to do that.

http://ensabahnur.free.fr/BastonNew/index.php?id=1
Last Edit: February 03, 2020, 01:11:54 AM by PeXXeR
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#653  February 03, 2020, 08:10:06 AM
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Just curious, why go with Varo's Alex instead of editing JZ's or GM's ?
I feel they are coded better and are a more solid base to go from.

Just grabbed Alex some feedback.
He feels really floaty when moving around his jump takes ages to falldown.
His frame data is really weird as well.
Crouching low kick is -7 ?
standing low kick was -5 ?

When you stand and hit low punch alex will grunt every single time. If you spam LP it just is grading on your ears.

While im shite with alex and cant give you like gameplay feedback I suggest going over the frame data and making it a bit more standard.

Here is Alex's frame data from 3rd strike while it wont fit with CVS it would be way better then the current one.
You can also play and view the hitboxes from here and can port them over really quick if you want to, you can slow down every anim to a single tick with the hitboxes turned on.

I remember mugen being weird with frame data and that you had to convert it or your char will be slow and shit but fuck me if I remember how to do that.

http://ensabahnur.free.fr/BastonNew/index.php?id=1


I used Varo's Alex because it was already PotS style. Trying to convert the mentioned characters would be a more complex process.

I'll be sure to attend to the frame data gripes and the grunt thing,
Re: (Sakura by BK) Rowen's PotS/Infinite Edits of Varying Quality
#654  March 03, 2020, 01:25:23 AM
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Sakura released.

Bahamian's version had super damage, so I had to nerf a few moves so she isn't too godlike.
I also tried to give Dark Sakura a better identity with move changes and such, because Bahamian said himself she wasn't that good.

There's still issues, but I'll get to those later, have faith.
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#655  March 04, 2020, 05:28:39 PM
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Your Ryu and Sakura doesn't do the special intro. Only Sakura, and there is missing haouken?
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#656  March 05, 2020, 07:00:07 AM
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Your Ryu and Sakura doesn't do the special intro. Only Sakura, and there is missing haouken?
Don't bother giving him feedback for now. He won't be able to respond to it due to a "postblock." I also have some as well as it was originally meant for Bahamian's original and posted alongside his Karin, but I forgot. For the time being, I would hold off until he returns.

Edit: Or is it a better idea to post it anyway so he can work on it during the postblock so it's ready when he comes back? I'm not sure.
Last Edit: March 05, 2020, 07:13:48 AM by SolidZone 26
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#657  March 05, 2020, 10:40:33 AM
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I think the idea was he could log in and see posts, but he can't post himself.
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#659  March 05, 2020, 11:40:51 AM
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Alright then. If that's the case, I might as well so he'll know where to look. Aside from the special intro issue between her and Ryu JerJeon mentioned, here's the other things I found:
-Her running animation has only one step sound.
-There's only one step sound during the EX Shouou Ken.
-The hit sparks and guard sparks play too excessively during the Shinkuu Hadouken (It looked like more than one spark were playing at the same time on each hit).
-There is no strong ground shockwave when the opponent hits the ground during Haru Ranman.
-The dust effect is reversed on the last hit of EX Shunpuu Kyaku.
-There is no strong ground shockwave sound effect when the opponent hits the wall during EX Shunpuu Renkyaku.
-Nekketsu Hadou Ken doesn't seem to have much envshake compared to Shinkuu Hadouken (Or just like the Shinkuu Hadouken, the sparks might be playing too excessively as well).
-The left and right taunts can be constantly spammed during the middle of their animations.

Dark Sakura:
-Her intro move a few pixels back when she goes to her stance and the teleport sound effect plays after she appears on the screen.
-Her voice aren't low pitched when her miss throw animation plays and the end of Midare Zakura.
-The Shun Goku Satsu command feels somewhat restrictive.
-Her afterimages disappear too early during Sakura Senkuu.
-There's a large landing effect during the startup of Haru Ichiban.

Hopefully, that's all of it.
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#660  March 05, 2020, 12:31:41 PM
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Dark Sakura could have the Air Hadouken. Just an Idea!