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General Sonic Game News Thread

#1 May 31, 2021, 04:07:00 pm

Back to the Beginnings

Surprised nobody has started talking about it yet, soooooooo...let me do the honors.

Sonic Colors Ultimate is a remaster of Sonic Colors (originally released for the Wii). It'll be released for Series X, XBONE, PS4, Nintendo Switch and EGS (sorry, no Steam version) and will contain various customization options. You can change Sonic's gloves and shoes and even his boost effect (includes a boost effect based on the Sonic movie).

Spoiler: stuff accidently leaked by Famitsu (click to see content)

Sonic Origins is a compilation of Sonic's Genesis era games, complete with widescreen support and other features/improvements. The compilation includes Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic CD (probably the Taxman versions for those), and for the first time ever in widescreen, Sonic 3 & Knuckles!

And then there's a teaser for a brand new Sonic game as well. We know nothing about it aside from the release year (2022) and that it has a weird logo...that's unless we dig into the teaser trailer's metadata!

Spoiler: more leaks (click to see content)

So...what are your thoughts, guys?

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bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

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Trololo

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#2 May 31, 2021, 04:16:36 pm

Objection! Sustained!

Gotta correct you about something: watch the "Sonic Origins" properly, S3&K is NOT Wide-Screen. In fact, it looks badly blurred, I bet it'll be an emulator.

Mintloid

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#3 May 31, 2021, 05:08:14 pm

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Do you want to listen to the waves?

I hate to say this, but Sonic Colors looks awfully worse! Seriously, what's up with companies making remastered games by just making graphics just bright as hell, heck even Halo did it. Its like putting some lens flare into a woodchipper and slappin it on a piece of paper and slamming the paper into an already beautiful game and just calling it a day. I know that Sonic Colors was one of my favorite sonic games back then, it did introduced some cool mechanisms like the wisps, although not far from fancy, it kinda holds up pretty well.

BUT THIS?!

No thanks SEGA

Trololo said, May 31, 2021, 04:16:36 pm

S3&K is NOT Wide-Screen. In fact, it looks badly blurred, I bet it'll be an emulator.

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TrinitroRoy

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#4 May 31, 2021, 05:39:19 pm

Back to the Beginnings

Trololo said, May 31, 2021, 04:16:36 pm

Gotta correct you about something: watch the "Sonic Origins" properly, S3&K is NOT Wide-Screen. In fact, it looks badly blurred, I bet it'll be an emulator.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRJBi2bRhoM[/youtube]

Vocalnoid said, May 31, 2021, 05:08:14 pm

Trololo said, May 31, 2021, 04:16:36 pm
S3&K is NOT Wide-Screen. In fact, it looks badly blurred, I bet it'll be an emulator.

Correction: https://twitter.com/KatieChrz/status/1397972387870642178
This is an official statement from Sonic's PR management.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles WILL have wide-screen. It just wasn't shown in the trailer.

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

Long John Killer

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#5 May 31, 2021, 06:17:36 pm

Proper order of things is often a mystery to me

I don't have much to comment on the first two. Didn't play Colors. Haven't felt like touching the Wii since....2010 or something. Am slightly curious about this supposed best Sonic game of the decade contender, will likely get it. The retro collection is the same that I've gotten, what, 5 times already before across consoles? It's fine and expected for the ever-continuing stream of new players, but nothing special to me.

The last one give HUGE Sonic 06 vibes. The trailer's actual direction reminds me of 06's reveal to an immense degree, albeit lacking robots chasing Sonic to show off the then shiny new graphics, 06 being the series' 15th anniversary celebration and this being that squared leaves me accepting it being tied in some way to be more plausible, and the trailer's art direction of the forest also attempting being more realistic.

Of course, that's all just assumptions. Could be entirely unrelated. But I would not put it past Sonic Team to want to retcon and "fix" 06 after all the years and dust have settled.

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Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#6 June 01, 2021, 07:43:29 am

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Some of the things about the new Sonic game worries me a bit. I feel some Sonic 2006 vibes aswell and that's no good.

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Trololo

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#7 June 01, 2021, 08:13:04 am

Objection! Sustained!

I dunno why ya'll worry about it feeling like '06. If you'll ask me, I think that this rectification you talking about should come much, MUCH earlier, if that's going to be one, to begin with. I mean, '06 is not as bad of a game as people keep declaring it to be, and if it could rectify its mistakes and come out as a better game, I think it would be the game to truly love.
#Sonic06Remastered
Edit: let's just hope it won't be '06 in MISTAKE regards. To forgive rectified mistakes is one thing, but to watch Sega keep repeating them - absolutely different one.

Last Edit: June 01, 2021, 08:17:35 am by Trololo

TrinitroRoy

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#8 June 03, 2021, 03:11:14 am

Back to the Beginnings

Good news: we finally know what that weird Tails life icon is about in Sonic Colors Ultimate
Bad news:

Spoiler: ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, SEGA?! FUCK YOU!!! (click to see content)

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

Trololo

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#9 June 03, 2021, 06:37:59 am

Objection! Sustained!

I dunno, I thought it was obvious that Tails would be nothing more than a function In this game. No need to put his icon like that and show still Sonic as a playable character if he is going to be playable. Besides, let's not forget that Sega since '06 doesn't do big Sonic games where you play NOT as Sonic (or some OC like in "Forces", which is, basically, the same Sonic, but with the weapon and some mini-skill). I think at this point even thinking this fact will change is plain useless.

Good_Wall533

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#10 June 04, 2021, 02:58:02 am

Don't honestly know why people thought Tails would be playable this time around in the remaster. Hell, we were LUCKY enough to even have him as a support character this time.

Last Edit: June 04, 2021, 03:14:05 am by Good_Wall533

Nate

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#11 June 04, 2021, 03:12:15 am

Sonic 1, 2, and CD look to be the Christian Whitehead versions of the games, though I could be wrong

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TrinitroRoy

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#12 September 04, 2021, 04:59:47 pm

Back to the Beginnings

so Sonic Colors Ultimate came out, and...well

https://twitter.com/justlemres/status/1433071391918764042
https://twitter.com/kakarotooot7u51/status/1433919892449742855
https://twitter.com/RnB_DREAMSOUL/status/1433995958057111552
https://twitter.com/Smoncdahonk/status/1434039124193804292

I am so fucking mad right now!

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

Good_Wall533

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#13 September 04, 2021, 06:09:26 pm

Eh. Don't even have the energy to be angry at this franchise anymore after the stuff that happened over the years. Just another day in the life as a Sonic fan. Super Monkey Ball fans get a pretty kickass remaster of the first three games and yet we get a "remastered" version of a game that was already pretty polished. I feel nothing for this franchise except apathy. Oh well.

TrinitroRoy

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#14 September 04, 2021, 06:29:56 pm

Back to the Beginnings

Good_Wall533 said, September 04, 2021, 06:09:26 pm

Super Monkey Ball fans get a pretty kickass remaster of the first three games and yet we get a "remastered" version of a game that was already pretty polished.

Good_Wall533 said, September 04, 2021, 06:09:26 pm

a game that was already pretty polished.

I disagree.

People may have liked Sonic Colors back then because it was the first "good" Sonic game after a series of failures, but looking back at it, Sonic Colors is...not really that good tbh...

The writing is fluctuates between meh and bad, a lot of the level design is REALLY blocky, the game has unnecessary padding (why the fuck do zones have SIX ACTS EACH?!), etc.

Colors DS, is definitely a good game and a MUCH better product than Colors Wii. Play Colors DS instead of Colors Wii or god forbid Colors Ultimate.

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

Good_Wall533

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#15 September 04, 2021, 06:55:05 pm

TrinitroRoy said, September 04, 2021, 06:29:56 pm

Good_Wall533 said, September 04, 2021, 06:09:26 pm
Super Monkey Ball fans get a pretty kickass remaster of the first three games and yet we get a "remastered" version of a game that was already pretty polished.
Good_Wall533 said, September 04, 2021, 06:09:26 pm
a game that was already pretty polished.
I disagree.

People may have liked Sonic Colors back then because it was the first "good" Sonic game after a series of failures, but looking back at it, Sonic Colors is...not really that good tbh...

The writing is fluctuates between meh and bad, a lot of the level design is REALLY blocky, the game has unnecessary padding (why the fuck do zones have SIX ACTS EACH?!), etc.

Colors DS, is definitely a good game and a MUCH better product than Colors Wii. Play Colors DS instead of Colors Wii or god forbid Colors Ultimate.

I agree with everything you just said but the point i'm trying to make here is that what i mean by 'pretty polished' is that the original Wii version didn't have bugs out the wazoo compared to the "Ultimate" version. I don't know know what happened here honestly. I don't know who's fault this is, SEGA, Blind Squirrel Games or both. All i know is that some people are going to continue their "Lol sOnIc bAd" drivel and that honestly sucks.

Last Edit: September 04, 2021, 06:59:28 pm by Good_Wall533

DauntlessMonk7

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#16 September 04, 2021, 07:47:39 pm

I swear I've been working on Geese all this time.
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TrinitroRoy said, September 04, 2021, 04:59:47 pm

so Sonic Colors Ultimate came out, and...well
I am so mad right now!

Actually, it hasn’t been released entirely, just early copies & those pre ordered the Digital Deluxe version.
That, and i’ve heard Sega’s already confirmed on a livestream that they’ll do multiple patches & updates to Ultimate.
They already have released a patch or two for Ultimate, from what i’ve read.
I know seeing these bug reports is probably really frustrating, but i think we should give Sega & Blind Squirrel the benefit of the doubt & give them time to let them fix the issues before we write Ultimate off.

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Darkflare

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#17 September 04, 2021, 10:17:49 pm

I wouldn't give them any benefit of a doubt. This shit shouldn't have even passed through QA.

In fact, this whole "it'll be fixed in a patch" thing has gotten out of control. For all intents and purposes, the game is officially released early access be damned, but the state of the game shows that it's completely unplayable. I want to know the story that led to this mess.

Macaulyn97

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#18 September 04, 2021, 10:41:22 pm

Patches are meant to iron out small flaws of mostly finished games, what happened to this one is a clearly unfinished release that they're going to finish with a bunch of patches. There is no excuse for this behavior, when I buy a fucking game, I buy it to play it now, not to play in X days/months when the lazy incompetent shit company finishes it.

Last Edit: September 04, 2021, 10:51:37 pm by Macaulyn97

DauntlessMonk7

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#19 September 05, 2021, 12:24:31 am

I swear I've been working on Geese all this time.
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Darkflare said, September 04, 2021, 10:17:49 pm

I wouldn't give them any benefit of a doubt. This shouldn't have even passed through QA.
I want to know the story that led to this mess.

I agree to an extent, And I agree the game probably should have been delayed to iron out issues before release, too.
But i also think that’s part of the thing:
We don’t know what happened during development or QA.

As ridiculous as this might sound, most of the bugs might have just not occurred for the QA team & slipped by unnoticed until the Digital Deluxe version came out.

I have been seeing people saying on Twitter that they’ve had little to no issues with the game.

That’s not to say they aren’t there, but it seems like everyone’s experience is different, with some having more issues than others.

Anyways, while i’m always open for responses, i also don’t want to spend a whole lot of time going back & forth on this, so i’m just going to give a short summery about what my stance on Sonic Colors Ultimate is:

I’m going to wait until it officially releases for everyone on the 7th, & see how the patches/updates end up turning out.

If things turn out well, then i’d say that’s great.

If things don’t work out that well, i’ll mainly just stick with the original Wii/DS versions & recommend those to those who ask,

at least maybe unless there’s a sale or something.

And if people want to play it anyway (which they most likely will) & ask me about it, i’ll let them know about the Wii/DS versions and the bugs other people have had with Ultimate, but ultimately i’ll recommend that they play it if they think they’ll like it, & have them make their own experiences & from their own opinions on it.

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Magma MK-II

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#20 September 05, 2021, 05:05:15 am

Every day is night

And apparently a lot of those bug reports are coming from people playing on the Yuzu emulator.

TrinitroRoy

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#21 September 05, 2021, 07:34:17 pm

Back to the Beginnings

Magma MK-II said, September 05, 2021, 05:05:15 am

And apparently a lot of those bug reports are coming from people playing on the Yuzu emulator.

that one in particular has already been debunked since the seizure/fish glitches do happen on real hardware still:
https://twitter.com/Smoncdahonk/status/1434369301105020928
https://twitter.com/Smoncdahonk/status/1434401781472276483

infact, people even found out the CAUSE behind those seizure/fish glitches:
https://twitter.com/Smoncdahonk/status/1434390574195359752
https://twitter.com/MotorRoach/status/1434496672608964612

so yeah, it's 100% real
avoid Sonic Colors Ultimate at ALL cost!

and on an unrelated note, there's also this annoying new PEGI law being introduced that automatically ages any new games as well as re-releases of old games that include new content an age rating of 18+ if it contains ANY gambling imagery at all:
https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1432695652077776903

How is this relevant to Sonic, you ask? Well...Sonic Origins is a compilation of remakes/remasters of Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic CD and Sonic 3 & Knuckles...
...and guess what one of the zones in Sonic 2 and one of the bonus stages in Sonic 3 & Knuckles is!

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

Magma MK-II

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#22 September 08, 2021, 08:35:18 pm

Every day is night

So, from what I gathered, those seizure glitches are exclusive to the Switch version of the game. Other glitches are real but these users went out of their way to cause them. PlayStation amd PC (depending on the user's hardware) all run fine.

Umezono

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#23 September 08, 2021, 08:44:00 pm

"going out of your way to cause them" doesn't really change anything imo

TrinitroRoy

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#24 September 09, 2021, 12:31:14 am

Back to the Beginnings

Magma MK-II said, September 08, 2021, 08:35:18 pm

PlayStation and PC (depending on the user's hardware) all run fine.

no they don't run fine:

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

【ＭＦＧ】gui0007

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#25 September 12, 2021, 11:08:16 pm

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Member of the Reign of Kreation

And i confirm what Roy is saying. Tried on my PC and even with the good config i have, Sonic Colors Ultimate have A LOT of serious glitches.
A big disappointment since i was waiting for so many for a PC release of Colors.

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#26 September 13, 2021, 03:27:24 am

Magma MK-II said, September 08, 2021, 08:35:18 pm

PlayStation amd PC (depending on the user's hardware) all run fine.

Oh, yes, then, the large amount of people showing/claiming to have issues must all be making it up, then. After all, its not like we've ever had a Sonic game with problems before...

TrinitroRoy

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & ???

#27 November 27, 2021, 11:42:07 am

Back to the Beginnings

so the Sonic Encyclo-Speed-ia came out recently and

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

Trololo

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#28 December 10, 2021, 03:42:56 am

Objection! Sustained!

Welp, I guess it's proper to put this thing here.

Welp, any opinions? Not keeping our hopes up?

Jmorphman

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#29 December 10, 2021, 03:55:00 am

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

Well, surely Sonic Team is capable of puling off a task as complicated as an open world Sonic game! Their track record should naturally give everyone confidence in this!

1Ultima

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#30 December 10, 2021, 03:40:04 pm

I am become Death, Destroyer of Tiers

God, i am so sick of open world games.
We get it, Skyrim/BotW made bank. Doesn't mean everyone has to jump onto the bandwagon. Christ.

As Jman said, I'm sure the level designers behind Sonic Forces will make an excellent map full of secrets to find and content.

At least Ian Flynn is doing the story so it has a chance of being decent.

Macaulyn97

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#31 December 11, 2021, 06:04:23 pm

Can't they just make Sonic Mania 2? Or maybe something with the same gameplay as Sonic Unleashed, except for the werehog? Because, normally, when someone throws a bunch of shit on the wall, they want to see what sticks, but clearly SEGA isn't keeping track of what is sticking.

TrinitroRoy

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & Sonic Frontiers

#32 October 21, 2022, 03:01:08 pm

Back to the Beginnings

alright, only one month away from Sonic Frontiers!

so...who else is excited or at least cautiously optimistic for this game?
because I sure as hell am, which is why I am reviving this thread by force!

as for actual Frontiers news: since nobody else wanted to post anything, I have more than plenty!

also, Monster Hunter Rise DLC for Sonic Frontiers got announced:
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1579624098485108737

but that's not enough!

that's right! the Soap Shoes from Sonic Adventure 2 FINALLY make their grand return!

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

TrinitroRoy

Re: Sonic Colors Ultimate, Sonic Origins & Sonic Frontiers

#33 December 16, 2022, 11:21:23 am

Back to the Beginnings

Sonic Frontiers is getting some sweet new free DLC

That's right, we can finally play as Sonic's friends in a mainline 3D Modern Sonic game again! It's been so long!

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm

you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

NDSilva

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#34 December 16, 2022, 05:04:49 pm

I don't know where else to post this, but I find it legit funny whenever someone makes a parallel between Sonic Frontiers and Neon Genesis Evangelion...

the most notable one being that Rei and Sage share the same voice actresses, both in English and in Japanese.

Also, more playable characters and story for free, yay! Finally SEGA decided to treat it's flagship franchise a little bit seriously once again.

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#35 December 16, 2022, 06:29:46 pm

The sequence from 0:40 definitely looks like something out of Evangelion. Probably not a coincidence.

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#36 March 25, 2023, 02:48:45 am

Objection! Sustained!

Welp... Do playable Amy in all 4 main-pack games and some Game Gear titles make it worth it now?

ShiroTori

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#37 March 25, 2023, 03:34:51 am

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As someone who waited for a "plus" update (I just had a hunch it was coming like a lot of people did), between those additions and all the patches being available on disc/cartridge, I'm ready to finally sink my teeth into this collection now.

My only hang-up is the lack of the other Genesis Sonic titles, such as the better versions of Spinball and Mean Bean Machine (GG Spinball is honestly dreadful). I also wish they'd make Knuckles Chaotix officially available outside the 32x already. I just played that one recently via emulation and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it.

I'm curious though... if Amy is playable in CD now, is there gonna be someone else for her to rescue?

Last Edit: March 25, 2023, 03:39:31 am by ShiroTori

TrinitroRoy

Re: General Sonic Game News Thread

#38 January 31, 2024, 11:43:01 pm

Back to the Beginnings

Quote

"Play as Shadow the Hedgehog in a brand-new story campaign featuring never-before-seen powers and abilities that prove why he’s known as the Ultimate Life Form!

SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS also includes a complete remaster of the classic hit SONIC GENERATIONS, featuring newly remastered versions of iconic 2D and 3D stages with upgraded visuals and new bonus content."

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you are all small and can't grow manly sideburns

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