i can. i really don't see why Halo is such a big deal...played 1 and 2...IMO nothing ground-breaking at all......had more fun playing Red Faction 1 and 2 on PS2
Snake said, September 18, 2007, 03:44:24 ami can. i really don't see why Halo is such a big deal...played 1 and 2...IMO nothing ground-breaking at all......had more fun playing Red Faction 1 and 2 on PS2 +2 Halo is mediocre
I like Halo but I don't plan to stand in line.Chances are though since my 360 is back 5 minutes into playing it I'll get the 3 dreaded color.
1,500,000 preorders, and i bet some people bought the $100+ versiondumbasses they be, the story is so simplistic; oh humans oh aliens lets fights!! i bet if he dies in halo 3 they will barry him with his helmet still on!
SpliTT said, September 18, 2007, 04:47:07 am1,500,000 preorders, and i bet some people bought the $100+ versiondumbasses they be, the story is so simplistic; oh humans oh aliens lets fights!! i bet if he dies in halo 3 they will barry him with his helmet still on!The ironing is delicious. The story of Halo is stock sci-fi but that's not the pull. A bazillion hours of online play does not lie I play for multi player. I've lost track of the hours I've pour away with my friends and online.
Really, Halo is a generic FPS, but its the best one for the Xbox. Fun on live though, if you can deal with all the douchebags.
Yeah, mutiplayer is what all should really get most shooters for these days.A.I.'s are easy.Man isn't the most dangerous game for nothing.
Captain Storm said, September 18, 2007, 05:22:27 amSpliTT said, September 18, 2007, 04:47:07 am1,500,000 preorders, and i bet some people bought the $100+ versiondumbasses they be, the story is so simplistic; oh humans oh aliens lets fights!! i bet if he dies in halo 3 they will barry him with his helmet still on!The ironing is delicious. The story of Halo is stock sci-fi but that's not the pull. A bazillion hours of online play does not lie I play for multi player. I've lost track of the hours I've pour away with my friends and online. trust me i spent 5 minutes looking for the word and just gave up sorry im not a dictionary!!!! and halo 3 will be a disappointment to some!
The best part about Halo 3 is that I get a whole lotta H3 shwag from my store that I can turn around and sell on eBay.
SpliTT said, September 19, 2007, 12:45:26 amCaptain Storm said, September 18, 2007, 05:22:27 amSpliTT said, September 18, 2007, 04:47:07 am1,500,000 preorders, and i bet some people bought the $100+ versiondumbasses they be, the story is so simplistic; oh humans oh aliens lets fights!! i bet if he dies in halo 3 they will barry him with his helmet still on!The ironing is delicious. The story of Halo is stock sci-fi but that's not the pull. A bazillion hours of online play does not lie I play for multi player. I've lost track of the hours I've pour away with my friends and online. trust me i spent 5 minutes looking for the word and just gave up sorry im not a dictionary!!!! and halo 3 will be a disappointment to some! Oh course it's going to disappoint some. Some people are never satisfied. But there was a massive beta so most fans know what they are getting.
Ya'll Cats still be fronting up here? Halo 1 was excellent, Halo 2 was Good now if 3 is a mixture is should the best one. I leave this forum for months and ya'll still act like ya afraid to disagree with each other.I disagree with all of ya'll Halo 3 is a must buy. No im not waiting in line but i will have it.
The reason the Halo series is so popular is because it brought a PC quality shooter to the consoles.I think it's mediocre at best. It's really hard to to say Halo is the best shooter ever when you've played games like Half-Life, Half-Life 2, Unreal Tournament, Quake, Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike, BioShock, etc.I could go on and on.Oh and I have a 360, won't be buying Halo 3 though.
SDS Overfiend said, September 19, 2007, 01:37:45 pmI disagree with all of ya'll Halo 3 is a must buy. No im not waiting in line but i will have it.Apparently not so much of a 'must buy' that you're not going to wait outside with all of the other hardcore Halo fans to get your copy at the midnight release.
Bungie went the shitty mainstream way after the marathon series.*Patiently waiting for Half-Life 2 Orange Box and Unreal Tournament 3*
Hoshi said, September 19, 2007, 06:27:28 pmSDS Overfiend said, September 19, 2007, 01:37:45 pmI disagree with all of ya'll Halo 3 is a must buy. No im not waiting in line but i will have it.Apparently not so much of a 'must buy' that you're not going to wait outside with all of the other hardcore Halo fans to get your copy at the midnight release. Its still a must buy, if you like shooters and have a 360. Halo2 = Best Shooter of all time. But it got old after about 2 years of playing..
UT = Best Online Shooter, IMOTimeSplitters 2 = Most Fun you can have in a multiplayer game. i loved that game SO MUCH. level editor rocked
I found Halo rather boring, too. Generic storyline, generic weapons, generic AI.... never played Halo 2, but I doubt it's much better Leon S. Kennedy said, September 18, 2007, 05:41:48 amReally, Halo is a generic FPS, but its the best one for the Xbox. Fun on live though, if you can deal with all the douchebags.Amen.
Also, it seems the ending was leaked. I saw it, and it fucking SUCKEDShin'ichi Kudo said, September 20, 2007, 02:07:01 amHoshi said, September 19, 2007, 06:27:28 pmSDS Overfiend said, September 19, 2007, 01:37:45 pmI disagree with all of ya'll Halo 3 is a must buy. No im not waiting in line but i will have it.Apparently not so much of a 'must buy' that you're not going to wait outside with all of the other hardcore Halo fans to get your copy at the midnight release. Its still a must buy, if you like shooters and have a 360. Halo2 = Best Generic non-PC Shooter of all time. fixed
I personally like GoldenEye 007 the best...Man, I miss the good ole' days of the 64 Halo's...okay...but too many people get so worked up over it
Leon S. Kennedy said, September 20, 2007, 05:30:45 amAlso, it seems the ending was leaked. I saw it, and it fucking SUCKEDShin'ichi Kudo said, September 20, 2007, 02:07:01 amHoshi said, September 19, 2007, 06:27:28 pmSDS Overfiend said, September 19, 2007, 01:37:45 pmI disagree with all of ya'll Halo 3 is a must buy. No im not waiting in line but i will have it.Apparently not so much of a 'must buy' that you're not going to wait outside with all of the other hardcore Halo fans to get your copy at the midnight release. Its still a must buy, if you like shooters and have a 360. Halo2 = Best Generic non-PC Shooter of all time. fixedThere is nothing Generic about Halo , It has alot of things other shooters don't have.GoldenEye 007 = Generic Shooter.and btw halo2 is on pc
Shin'ichi Kudo said, September 20, 2007, 05:59:10 pmIt has alot of things other shooters don't have....like?
Valodim said, September 20, 2007, 06:02:29 pmShin'ichi Kudo said, September 20, 2007, 05:59:10 pmIt has alot of things other shooters don't have....like?Heres a list:vehicles that don't have crappy control.vehicles that can get lifted into the air.Grenades bounce...You can Jump.Customizable armour and logo.Almost everything(that isn't attached to something) is interactive.Every Map feels diffrent and not the same(like most shooters).Auto-Healing.Dual Weild 2 diffrent weapons.etc..
Halo doesn't really offer anything new to the table, but it tries to perfect the FPS formula that already exists. Other FPS titles can be unique, but Halo's build makes it easy for any person familiar to the usual stuff jump right in and also experience a few new things as well. Halo 3 will sell just because of it's name similar to how Madden, Zelda, and Mario take advantage of popularity.
Meatball said, September 19, 2007, 05:29:11 pmThe reason the Halo series is so popular is because it brought a PC quality shooter to the consoles.I think it's mediocre at best. It's really hard to to say Halo is the best shooter ever when you've played games like Half-Life, Half-Life 2, Unreal Tournament, Quake, Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike, BioShock, etc.I could go on and on.Oh and I have a 360, won't be buying Halo 3 though.Are you Fuking Serious? You Mention Bioshock? As good as bioshock is the Background won people over with that game. The Plasmids are nothing new. As for Half-life you have a valid point but Quake and all that other bullsh1t im not feeling you.As far as people Saying that Halo 2 is not all that but never played it or Halo 1please STFU!!Hoshi said, September 19, 2007, 06:27:28 pmSDS Overfiend said, September 19, 2007, 01:37:45 pmI disagree with all of ya'll Halo 3 is a must buy. No im not waiting in line but i will have it.Apparently not so much of a 'must buy' that you're not going to wait outside with all of the other hardcore Halo fans to get your copy at the midnight release. For what when i have it reserved? Your so Smart Hoshi.Still trying to be PC all the time up here?
SDS Overfiend said, September 20, 2007, 09:33:00 pmAre you Fuking Serious? You Mention Bioshock? As good as bioshock is the Background won people over with that game. The Plasmids are nothing new. As for Half-life you have a valid point but Quake and all that other bullsh1t im not feeling you.As far as people Saying that Halo 2 is not all that but never played it or Halo 1please STFU!!BioShock had a great story, great map design, and the gameplay was pretty good. Halo has a shitty story, shitty map design, and the gameplay is mildly okay. I played, IDK, halfway through the first, I got so bored and I couldn't give a rat's ass about the story. I was also incredibly boring using the same 2 weapons because all the rest were usless.the Half-Life series is still the best single-player series.(And has sold more than the Halo series, believe it or not)The only people who can put down the first Quake are people who have never played it. I hated Quake 2 and Quake 4 was boring, but the originally Quake, also the first 3D FPS, was fucking awesome.
Halo 1 & halo 2 seeing as was one of the better shooters that was excessible at the time let it grow popularity.I love Halo but I know it's place in history.There has been others to set the pace but they at least don't throw out shit everytime.Where as most sequels are a year or less apart.+ Extreme Sci Fi draws people.
Shin'ichi Kudo said, September 20, 2007, 06:16:33 pmHeres a list:vehicles that don't have crappy control.vehicles that can get lifted into the air.Grenades bounce...You can Jump.Customizable armour and logo.Almost everything(that isn't attached to something) is interactive.Every Map feels diffrent and not the same(like most shooters).Auto-Healing.Dual Weild 2 diffrent weapons.etc..-UT games have that-Why airlift another vehicle when you can just use a vehicle that flys?-Halo is the only game with bouncing grenades? WTF? WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN!?-HOLY SHIT I CAN JUMP?!?! every FPS i've ever played allowed me to jump-Custom Skins in games like UT = "Custom Armor and Logo"-Sup Red Faction 2 "destructable enviroments"-like what? TimeSplitters levels imo don't feel the same at all. they are all from varying time periods...-Auto-healing? I'd rather find my health than be given it in a couple of seconds cause i stood around-Dual Wield has been done in Rogue Agent, too, like 14 days later after Halo 2, but has been a part of production....looks like Halo isn't doing as much 'different' to me
i agree with you "snake" and i was going to use UT is some of the arguments in my quote, oh and you cant jump in timesplitters!!halo 2s interactible objects= hey look car lets hit it, hey look a barrel lets hit it(boom). pretty much the only interactibility is what you get from the creators !!!!
Snake: Have you ever played a FPS with all the features on that list? NO. Halo2/3 is the only FPS that has all of those. plus more..
Haha... have you ever played Dark Messiah of Might and Magic? Now that FPS has some things other shooters don't have, I could even give a list Grendades bounced ever since they first showed up in a video game (including 2d), Halo is generic.I heard Tribes was pretty good, never got to play it though...
SpliTT why you say that he didn't need to know that about TS omg!!!Shin'ichi Kudo said, September 21, 2007, 02:13:00 amSnake: Have you ever played a FPS with all the features on that list? NO. Halo2/3 is the only FPS that has all of those. plus more..only thing Halo has that i haven't played in an FPS is Auto-Healing (Ghey) and lifting a vehicle in the air (WOW!!!)...i can live without those 2 CRUCIAL GAMEPLAY FACTORS ZOMGRed Faction 1/2 beats Halo's 'interactive levels' and 'different feel'...in fact more like RAPES THE SHIT out of them...every level can be destroyed, and they have to be if you want TEH UBER WEAPONS LOLUT obliterates Halo's vehicles. I'm sorry, i've played both for more than several hours each for several days, and theres no Comparison. BF1942 is even better.Jumping isn't a neccesary(sp) component to a FPS, either. Means less people fucking Bunny Hop around.More Features =/= More Funsome are more core than others, some you don't need *I can't jump? TAHTS GHEY*
Plus, alot of things feel too easy in that game, I'm more of a sniper when I play FPS's online (Which I don't do very often , FPS's are not my forte) but sniping's really lame in Halo, it takes very little skill.You don't even have to try, just sorta shoot blindly and you'll get them if they don't get you first .
Snake said, September 21, 2007, 04:07:33 amSpliTT why you say that he didn't need to know that about TS omg!!!Shin'ichi Kudo said, September 21, 2007, 02:13:00 amSnake: Have you ever played a FPS with all the features on that list? NO. Halo2/3 is the only FPS that has all of those. plus more..only thing Halo has that i haven't played in an FPS is Auto-Healing (Ghey) and lifting a vehicle in the air (WOW!!!)...i can live without those 2 CRUCIAL GAMEPLAY FACTORS ZOMGRed Faction 1/2 beats Halo's 'interactive levels' and 'different feel'...in fact more like RAPES THE SHIT out of them...every level can be destroyed, and they have to be if you want TEH UBER WEAPONS LOLUT obliterates Halo's vehicles. I'm sorry, i've played both for more than several hours each for several days, and theres no Comparison. BF1942 is even better.Jumping isn't a neccesary(sp) component to a FPS, either. Means less people fucking Bunny Hop around.More Features =/= More Funsome are more core than others, some you don't need *I can't jump? TAHTS GHEY*You sound to much in denial. I haven't been in a while but i see everybody still tries to act like they come from left field. Face it Snake Timesplitters gets raped by Halo regardless of what you say.The only valid argument is about the Better FPS is Half-Life to a degree.Still Halo 2 story does'nt suck that bad it just did'nt reveal too much.
Really, only about two of the guns in Halo are original, The Needler (which sucks) and the Sentinal Beam (which also sucks). The rest you can find in other games. Stickys are fun though.SDS Overfiend said, September 21, 2007, 06:25:33 amSnake said, September 21, 2007, 04:07:33 amSpliTT why you say that he didn't need to know that about TS omg!!!Shin'ichi Kudo said, September 21, 2007, 02:13:00 amSnake: Have you ever played a FPS with all the features on that list? NO. Halo2/3 is the only FPS that has all of those. plus more..only thing Halo has that i haven't played in an FPS is Auto-Healing (Ghey) and lifting a vehicle in the air (WOW!!!)...i can live without those 2 CRUCIAL GAMEPLAY FACTORS ZOMGRed Faction 1/2 beats Halo's 'interactive levels' and 'different feel'...in fact more like RAPES THE SHIT out of them...every level can be destroyed, and they have to be if you want TEH UBER WEAPONS LOLUT obliterates Halo's vehicles. I'm sorry, i've played both for more than several hours each for several days, and theres no Comparison. BF1942 is even better.Jumping isn't a neccesary(sp) component to a FPS, either. Means less people fucking Bunny Hop around.More Features =/= More Funsome are more core than others, some you don't need *I can't jump? TAHTS GHEY*You sound to much in denial. I haven't been in a while but i see everybody still tries to act like they come from left field. Face it Snake Timesplitters gets raped by Halo regardless of what you say.The only valid argument is about the Better FPS is Half-Life to a degree.Still Halo 2 story does'nt suck that bad it just did'nt reveal too much.Halo's story in general sucks, the average ALIENS VS HUMANS Spoiler: with only one twist (click to see content)with one species of Aliens joining humans
Who gives a shit about storylines? SSB had/has no storyline ppl like it..And btw Sticky grenades came from Timesplitters 2
Gintoki said, September 21, 2007, 07:12:44 amWho gives a shit about storylines? SSB had/has no storyline ppl like it..And btw Sticky grenades came from Timesplitters 2Mostly because people praise Halo for having such a WHOMG GOOD STORYLINE, while with smash bro's people never claim that. Halo is a fun game, I'll give you that. Its just the fucking fanbase making it out as the best FPS ever, when there is a shitton better.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R has all the stuff Halo has + hundreds of more features and has already made it's way to my top games list.The only thing missing in stalker is vehicles BUT there is already a mod which unlocks the hidden vehicles in the game.BOW DOWN BEFORE MY MIGHTY (and slow) EXO-SKELETON ARMOR AND MY LR-300 W/CUSTOMIZED GRENADE LAUNCHER MACHINE GUN!!!!!And UT,Bioshock,Half-life,Max Payne (1),Timesplitters and the older Rainbow Six's before lockdown,ownz all.
Gintoki said, September 21, 2007, 07:12:44 amWho gives a shit about storylines? SSB had/has no storyline ppl like it..And btw Sticky grenades came from Timesplitters 2Shit in this Hellhole they worship it.BTW what year did sticky grenade debut in Timesplitters?Cause if you say anything after 2001 your wrong.
SDS Overfiend said, September 21, 2007, 10:53:55 amGintoki said, September 21, 2007, 07:12:44 amWho gives a shit about storylines? SSB had/has no storyline ppl like it..And btw Sticky grenades came from Timesplitters 2Shit in this Hellhole they worship it.BTW what year did sticky grenade debut in Timesplitters?Cause if you say anything after 2001 your wrong.Timesplitters came out in October of 2000, Halo 1 came out over a year later
Dear EveryoneStop sucking Halo's cock - it's short and flaccid.Thanks, byewalt.P.S. Gears of war is superior.
K.O.D said, September 21, 2007, 06:04:41 pmCCI [Yuutsu] said, September 21, 2007, 06:03:19 pmP.S. Gears of war is superior.Quoted for emphasis.Of course GoW is better it came out after Halo2 , just wait until Halo3.
Gintoki said, September 21, 2007, 08:58:20 pmK.O.D said, September 21, 2007, 06:04:41 pmCCI [Yuutsu] said, September 21, 2007, 06:03:19 pmP.S. Gears of war is superior.Quoted for emphasis.Of course GoW is better it came out after Halo2 , just wait until Halo3. I'll just wait for Haze. kthxbai
K.O.D said, September 21, 2007, 06:04:41 pmCCI [Yuutsu] said, September 21, 2007, 06:03:19 pmP.S. Gears of war is superior.Quoted for emphasis.They're not even in the same genre.
Captain Storm said, September 22, 2007, 05:12:59 amK.O.D said, September 21, 2007, 06:04:41 pmCCI [Yuutsu] said, September 21, 2007, 06:03:19 pmP.S. Gears of war is superior.Quoted for emphasis.They're not even in the same genre.Well, I dunno, if you consider Shooter a genre, they both fall under it.Though, they are different types of shooter.
all these people hate on Halo, but in reality, the numbers don't lie. For it to be so "generic" the sales are phenomenal. Just because a select few people don't buy it, isn't going to knock it's success.It's no suprise to me though, people will always hate what is very successful. In This case, Halo. Haze, and company will not be hated, nor will they do well in the market, lol.
Chosen_01 said, September 20, 2007, 07:33:59 pmHalo doesn't really offer anything new to the table, but it tries to perfect the FPS formula that already exists. Other FPS titles can be unique, but Halo's build makes it easy for any person familiar to the usual stuff jump right in and also experience a few new things as well. Halo 3 will sell just because of it's name similar to how Madden, Zelda, and Mario take advantage of popularity.If it didn't, then why do a lot of other shooters borrow from it? Halo did bring something new to the table, REAL DUAL WIELDING. You could wield 2 different weapons, and fire them independently. Tell me another shooter before Halo 2 that did both. Sure games let you dual wield (Goldeneye and such) and others let you fire independently (Red Faction) but no other game allowed both at the same time. That was innovative right there. And no game today does it as flawless. And it's sad. People hate on Halo for the simple fact that it's good and more people like it than your favorite FPS. People will always hate what is great
Toph The Earthbender said, September 22, 2007, 05:02:22 pmall these people hate on Halo, but in reality, the numbers don't lie. For it to be so "generic" the sales are phenomenal. Just because a select few people don't buy it, isn't going to knock it's success.It's no suprise to me though, people will always hate what is very successful. In This case, Halo. Haze, and company will not be hated, nor will they do well in the market, lol. Because Halo has been over-hyped and over-advertised and Microsoft (not bungie) spread through some of their own people that "OMG,HALO RULEZ,BUY NOW!!!!" and sheep people bought it and realized that it sucked while those praising it are a minority.Toph The Earthbender said, September 22, 2007, 05:11:05 pmIf it didn't, then why do a lot of other shooters borrow from it? Halo did bring something new to the table, REAL DUAL WIELDING. You could wield 2 different weapons, and fire them independently. Tell me another shooter before Halo 2 that did both. Sure games let you dual wield (Goldeneye and such) and others let you fire independently (Red Faction) but no other game allowed both at the same time. That was innovative right there. And no game today does it as flawless. And it's sad. People hate on Halo for the simple fact that it's good and more people like it than your favorite FPS. People will always hate what is great Dual-wielding isn't new and many games allowed both at the same time.As for the "People will always hate what is very successful",i don't see people hating Half-Life or many other great games.
K.O.D said, September 22, 2007, 05:14:21 pmToph The Earthbender said, September 22, 2007, 05:02:22 pmall these people hate on Halo, but in reality, the numbers don't lie. For it to be so "generic" the sales are phenomenal. Just because a select few people don't buy it, isn't going to knock it's success.It's no suprise to me though, people will always hate what is very successful. In This case, Halo. Haze, and company will not be hated, nor will they do well in the market, lol. Because Halo has been over-hyped and over-advertised and Microsoft (not bungie) spread through some of their own people that "OMG,HALO RULEZ,BUY NOW!!!!" and sheep people bought it and realized that it sucked while those praising it are a minority.Toph The Earthbender said, September 22, 2007, 05:11:05 pmIf it didn't, then why do a lot of other shooters borrow from it? Halo did bring something new to the table, REAL DUAL WIELDING. You could wield 2 different weapons, and fire them independently. Tell me another shooter before Halo 2 that did both. Sure games let you dual wield (Goldeneye and such) and others let you fire independently (Red Faction) but no other game allowed both at the same time. That was innovative right there. And no game today does it as flawless. And it's sad. People hate on Halo for the simple fact that it's good and more people like it than your favorite FPS. People will always hate what is great Dual-wielding isn't new and many games allowed both at the same time.As for the "People will always hate what is very successful",i don't see people hating Half-Life or many other great games.name a game that allowed dual wielding, dual wielding 2 different guns, and independent fire of both guns, all at the same time, before Halo 2??? No game has done that before Halo 2. I'm sick of this "games already had dual wielding" but none has done what Halo has done with it, and every time I call an idiot out on it, they can never back it up, so I'm calling you out, name a game that combined all 3 elements of dual wielding and used them before Halo 2, name 1 game. As for people being "tricked" into buying Halo, either you're dumb or easily manipulated into buying a game. People knew what to expect with Halo, and thats why it kept selling. If it was that bad, it would not have sold so much. And a for sheep, there's hardly none, because if Halo 2 was that bad, Halo 3 would not have so many pre orders. The proof is in the numbers pal, and come this Tuesday, you'll see that for yourself.
and Halo: CE came out before Timesplitters 2, stickies were in Halo: CE, unless Timesplitters 1 had em, Halo: CE had them first *I need to fire up my copy of Timesplitters 1 to find out*
And why are you double-posting? Quotename a game that allowed dual wielding, dual wielding 2 different guns, and independent fire of both guns, all at the same time, before Halo 2??? No game has done that before Halo 2. I'm sick of this "games already had dual wielding" but none has done what Halo has done with it, and every time I call an idiot out on it, they can never back it up, so I'm calling you out, name a game that combined all 3 elements of dual wielding and used them before Halo 2, name 1 game.As everyone else said + DEUS EX (a mod enabled it)QuoteAs for people being "tricked" into buying Halo, either you're dumb or easily manipulated into buying a game. People knew what to expect with Halo, and thats why it kept selling. If it was that bad, it would not have sold so much. Most teenagers (mostly american) are dumb and can be easily manipulated into buying a game just because a few people bought them and they want to be "cool" and "hip" by owning the games.Yes,it's true,the human race is still a primitive race lacking common sense even if we master the knowledge of the world,we still lack basic,common sense,and i have proof to back it up by the vast number of incident's happening in the world.QuoteAnd a for sheep, there's hardly none, because if Halo 2 was that bad, Halo 3 would not have so many pre orders. The proof is in the numbers pal, and come this Tuesday, you'll see that for yourself.Same reply as above.
Toph The Earthbender said, September 22, 2007, 05:02:22 pmall these people hate on Halo, but in reality, the numbers don't lie. For it to be so "generic" the sales are phenomenal. Just because a select few people don't buy it, isn't going to knock it's success.It's no suprise to me though, people will always hate what is very successful. In This case, Halo. Haze, and company will not be hated, nor will they do well in the market, lol. Sales don't represent success in terms of being a good game. A great game can be poorly marketed, and a fair game can have lots of $ in marketing. Having not much choice in the market also "forces" people to buy an inferior product. A game's value should only consider the game itself, not the number of people who forked over cash for it. I won't make a GWB comparison... wait.Quotename a game that allowed dual wielding, dual wielding 2 different guns, and independent fire of both guns, all at the same time, before Halo 2??? No game has done that before Halo 2. I'm sick of this "games already had dual wielding" but none has done what Halo has done with it, and every time I call an idiot out on it, they can never back it up, so I'm calling you out, name a game that combined all 3 elements of dual wielding and used them before Halo 2, name 1 game.Goldeneye.
Messatsu said, September 22, 2007, 06:27:10 pmToph The Earthbender said, September 22, 2007, 05:02:22 pmall these people hate on Halo, but in reality, the numbers don't lie. For it to be so "generic" the sales are phenomenal. Just because a select few people don't buy it, isn't going to knock it's success.It's no suprise to me though, people will always hate what is very successful. In This case, Halo. Haze, and company will not be hated, nor will they do well in the market, lol. Sales don't represent success in terms of being a good game. A great game can be poorly marketed, and a fair game can have lots of $ in marketing. Having not much choice in the market also "forces" people to buy an inferior product. A game's value should only consider the game itself, not the number of people who forked over cash for it. I won't make a GWB comparison... wait.Quotename a game that allowed dual wielding, dual wielding 2 different guns, and independent fire of both guns, all at the same time, before Halo 2??? No game has done that before Halo 2. I'm sick of this "games already had dual wielding" but none has done what Halo has done with it, and every time I call an idiot out on it, they can never back it up, so I'm calling you out, name a game that combined all 3 elements of dual wielding and used them before Halo 2, name 1 game.Goldeneye.Halo2 is a good game though.. And ive played Golden eye alot you can not shoot one gun at a time with dual wielding.Golden eye did not have true Dual Wielding.
QuoteGolden eye did not have true Dual Wielding.There weren't enough physical buttons on the N64 controller to do it and retain all the other features. Otherwise they probably would have.
A great game that got NO advertising and little sales, but was one of the BEST games you never heard of was GodHand. Game did poor in sales, cause it didn''t get any good exposure. Having that said, it is one of the absolute best beat-em-ups you could ever ever playproof that sales =/= "how good a game is"
Messatsu said, September 22, 2007, 06:27:10 pmToph The Earthbender said, September 22, 2007, 05:02:22 pmall these people hate on Halo, but in reality, the numbers don't lie. For it to be so "generic" the sales are phenomenal. Just because a select few people don't buy it, isn't going to knock it's success.It's no suprise to me though, people will always hate what is very successful. In This case, Halo. Haze, and company will not be hated, nor will they do well in the market, lol. Sales don't represent success in terms of being a good game. A great game can be poorly marketed, and a fair game can have lots of $ in marketing. Having not much choice in the market also "forces" people to buy an inferior product. A game's value should only consider the game itself, not the number of people who forked over cash for it. I won't make a GWB comparison... wait.Quotename a game that allowed dual wielding, dual wielding 2 different guns, and independent fire of both guns, all at the same time, before Halo 2??? No game has done that before Halo 2. I'm sick of this "games already had dual wielding" but none has done what Halo has done with it, and every time I call an idiot out on it, they can never back it up, so I'm calling you out, name a game that combined all 3 elements of dual wielding and used them before Halo 2, name 1 game.Goldeneye.moron, goldeneye could not, it was impossible for it to. you could not fire each gun independently, nor could you dual wield different guns and reload them independently. People don't know what the fuck they're talking about most of the time. Werther or not a game is good is solely an opinion, but sales do not lie. If Halo is as bad as you say, it would not sell so well, bottom line. So you're saying Kabuki Warriors is a great game since it didn't sell well? I see moronic logic there. It's a known fact that bad games do not sell and good ones doNumbers do not lie, and the amount of numbers that Halo moves, that speaks for itself. Come this Tuesday, Halo will show why it's one of the best FPS series out there, and you'll all sit and bitch and moan about it because it will, while I'll be having fun with a top notch FPS
Toph The Earthbender said, September 22, 2007, 06:44:59 pmmoron, goldeneye could not, it was impossible for it to. you could not fire each gun independently, nor could you dual wield different guns and reload them independently. People don't know what the fuck they're talking about most of the time. Messatsu two posts ago said:There weren't enough physical buttons on the N64 controller to do it and retain all the other features. Otherwise they probably would have.halo fanboys
Snake said, September 22, 2007, 06:37:25 pmproof that sales =/= "how good a game is"QFT.Poorly sold masterpieces = Godhand, Psychonauts, BG&E etc.Crappy games that somewhat managed to sold in millions = DRIV3R, majority of move-based games etc. See also THISAt least I'm glad to not hear yet a Far Cry fanboy there......
Gintoki said, September 22, 2007, 07:08:22 pmIn Golden eye the dual weild was a seperate Gun. I said dual wield separate guns and reload them independentlyHalo is a great game, people, get over it. You don't see people talking about trash like DRIV3R and it's sales because it's a crap game. Halo is good simply because it is, the numbers show it, and it's widely talked about. Everyone is talking about it, you are, I am, everyone is.
Your "Sales = GREAT GAME" logic is fail...but you keep using it?Toph The Earthbender said, September 22, 2007, 08:29:16 pmGintoki said, September 22, 2007, 07:08:22 pmIn Golden eye the dual weild was a seperate Gun. I said dual wield separate guns and reload them independentlyHalo is a great game, people, get over it. You don't see people talking about trash like DRIV3R and it's sales because it's a crap game. Halo is good simply because it is, the numbers show it, and it's widely talked about. Everyone is talking about it, you are, I am, everyone is. Urza the Bob Saget said, September 22, 2007, 07:50:55 pmSnake said, September 22, 2007, 06:37:25 pmproof that sales =/= "how good a game is"QFT.Poorly sold masterpieces = Godhand, Psychonauts, BG&E etc.Crappy games that somewhat managed to sold in millions = DRIV3R, majority of move-based games etc. See also THIS"50 cent: Bulletproof" sold over a million quite quickly...'nuff...People here (Guild and actually my city) would rather play with 4 people on Golden Eye than with more than 4 on Halo...they don't really care for *ZOMG DUAL WEILD WEAPONZ? WARTHOGZ? GUY WITH HELMETZ? I CAME!*
I'm just imparcial. I don't think Halo sucks but I don't think it's the brightest bulb in the box either.
Leon S. Kennedy said, September 21, 2007, 12:06:48 pmSDS Overfiend said, September 21, 2007, 10:53:55 amGintoki said, September 21, 2007, 07:12:44 amWho gives a shit about storylines? SSB had/has no storyline ppl like it..And btw Sticky grenades came from Timesplitters 2Shit in this Hellhole they worship it.BTW what year did sticky grenade debut in Timesplitters?Cause if you say anything after 2001 your wrong.Timesplitters came out in October of 2000, Halo 1 came out over a year laterYou said Timesplitters 2 not one spin doctor LOL!Snake said, September 22, 2007, 09:08:17 pmYour "Sales = GREAT GAME" logic is fail...but you keep using it?Toph The Earthbender said, September 22, 2007, 08:29:16 pmGintoki said, September 22, 2007, 07:08:22 pmIn Golden eye the dual weild was a seperate Gun. I said dual wield separate guns and reload them independentlyHalo is a great game, people, get over it. You don't see people talking about trash like DRIV3R and it's sales because it's a crap game. Halo is good simply because it is, the numbers show it, and it's widely talked about. Everyone is talking about it, you are, I am, everyone is. Urza the Bob Saget said, September 22, 2007, 07:50:55 pmSnake said, September 22, 2007, 06:37:25 pmproof that sales =/= "how good a game is"QFT.Poorly sold masterpieces = Godhand, Psychonauts, BG&E etc.Crappy games that somewhat managed to sold in millions = DRIV3R, majority of move-based games etc. See also THIS"50 cent: Bulletproof" sold over a million quite quickly...'nuff...People here (Guild and actually my city) would rather play with 4 people on Golden Eye than with more than 4 on Halo...they don't really care for *ZOMG DUAL WEILD WEAPONZ? WARTHOGZ? GUY WITH HELMETZ? I CAME!*Nah its just no high speed connections in you area. Stop making its seem like you coming on a different angle Goldeneye was good for its time cause i love that game but i've been spoiled by Halo so no im not going to say i rather play Goldeneye cause people know i'd be in denial.Snake said, September 22, 2007, 06:37:25 pmA great game that got NO advertising and little sales, but was one of the BEST games you never heard of was GodHand. Game did poor in sales, cause it didn''t get any good exposure. Having that said, it is one of the absolute best beat-em-ups you could ever ever playproof that sales =/= "how good a game is"Man get the fuck outta dodge. That game start out good with decent idea then got boring real quick.
...but you asked "BTW what year did sticky grenade debut in Timesplitters?"you technically asked 1 not 2 spin doctor LOL!+ IIRC in 1, they had mines that you can throw that stick to whatever you threw them at, meaning not just walls/floors/etc can have a mine on them...The sticky grenade from Halo is nothnig more than a mine with Blue Fire on it no high speed connections? thats just fucking stupid. theres highspeed all around. Halo is generic. a Marine fighting aliens, OMG! AvP did that, too... "get the fuck outa dodge"? que? I've beaten GodHand like 5 times, and i am already on my 6th playthrough and i'm not bored at all with it. it takes a lot to keep me interested in a beat-em up om general. *game IS hard, that's why its so great. challenging. and it makes nearly NO SENSE!*
Leon S. Kennedy said, September 22, 2007, 10:26:38 amCaptain Storm said, September 22, 2007, 05:12:59 amK.O.D said, September 21, 2007, 06:04:41 pmCCI [Yuutsu] said, September 21, 2007, 06:03:19 pmP.S. Gears of war is superior.Quoted for emphasis.They're not even in the same genre.Well, I dunno, if you consider Shooter a genre, they both fall under it.Though, they are different types of shooter.Exactly too many subgenres to group them together. You have Shoot 'em ups, Rail shooter, Run-and-gun shooter, Shooting gallery, Light-gun, First-person, sidescrolling and Third-person.
Urza the Bob Saget said, September 22, 2007, 07:50:55 pmCrappy games that somewhat managed to sold in millions = DRIV3RDRIV3R sold millions maybe because DRIVER 2 was one of the most brilliant driving/adventure games for the Playstation.I would have bought it as well, knowing Driver 2 Kicked so much fucking ass.I didn't though because a friend bought it first and said it was nothing like 2
