Thanks for the beta release. He seems to function well enough and I haven't seen any proper bugs.

But, here comes my feedback, which mostly includes basic mistakes:

1. Most of his normals are very advantageous (or Plus if you're into fighting game terminology) on contact due to
2. No Hitsparks for Ancient Power and Owl's Hunting.
3. His EX Moves, namely the Ancient Power and Infinite Kick give power when they shouldn't.
4. His Non-Level 3 supers start attacking during the superpause, making them unblockable.
5. Super Commands:
- Waning Moon can't be done with b+c.
- Infinite Kick can't be done with x+z.
- The super commands also seem to be swapped in the readme.
- Aztec Warfare is done with x+y, y+z and z. z should probably be x+z to complete the 2p set.
- I know it's your command choice, but it's jarring for those with the traditional command style in their muscle memory like me.

Zero Counter also doesn't work because you haven't assigned anything to state 2900.
 
On a sidenote, why the Edits and Addons section? It's not an edit when you make a different character from another, at least by this site's rules.

I'm tempted to assist with this. If you'll allow me to make changes and help, I most definitely will.
It's fine if you want full control over your char though. I'll be awaiting the final version when it drops.
Not bad for a newcomer.

Thanks for the release, seems like with some tweakings it can be a solid character.
I will test as well.

Fast feedback.
First thing, you should really calm down the giant hitboxes stuff.
One of them takes 2/3 of the screen ^^;

also, try to give hurt boxes to the actual limbs when he's punching/kicking...

His throw arm holding stuff, opponent should use different hurt sprites


For the hitboxes, I suggest you to have a look at RR's edits, so you can have a good reference.
And for the thros P2 anim, have a look at any good Sagat version or Urien to see wich hurt sprites to use when Ogre hold the opponent.

His 2P throw is supposed to be a telekinetic thing (homage to Tekken) or do you just mean the way P2 takes the pain in terms of animation?

Alright, here I go:

1. His Level 3 Port's axis should be 320,240.
2. Telekenetic Struggle's hitsounds cut-off due to channel issues.
3. Double Clothesline could use Punch hitsounds instead.
6. Owl's Hunting's Hitspark is too high up.
9. Infinite Kick hitboxes are pretty huge, especially the high kick one. I feel like the Level 1 should be MAX-Cancellable.
11. Aztec Warfare's first hitspark is mispositioned.

Correct Move Names:

Owl's Hunting = Owl's Hunt
Aztec Warfare = Hell Inferno
Waning Moon is the name of the special throw where he goes behind the opponent. The current super could use a name like Unlimited Power.

8. Super Animations should preferably be in the 3000s.

Correct Move Commands:

Ancient Power = F,D,DF,p
Owl's Hunt = F,D,DF,k

4. Most of his specials lack Juggle Limits (e.g. !var(16) && var(15) < 2).
5. Indigo Punch could definitely use some new Fire FX along with a Flame Sound. EX Indigo Punch should also wall-bounce instead of stunning.
7. Blazing Kick looks like it can juggle but you can't follow-up from it.
10. The opponent can fall recover from Waning Moon

I could go on but I think I've already overdone it. I hope this all doesn't sound too tasking for ya'. Good luck and good start, as already stated.

When throws clash, Ogre goes off screen. Tested against Shin Akuma by mwryly and against RagingRowen's version as well.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/K3tIosgQ-Jo[/youtube]

Now we have a proper POTS Style Ogre. You did great Diek.

Tried your latest ogre update and find these
[youtube]https://youtu.be/tGcpXPKibNI[/youtube]

I hope that huge bug (owl's hunt) and repetitive punch/kick for no reason (I think its an AI issue) should be fixed.

Watch this carefully if you missed some common or random features to add
[youtube]https://youtu.be/u0aFrxWDbB4[/youtube]

Thanks

Diek Stiekem said, August 02, 2021, 02:20:20 pm

Another minor update:

<Diek Stiekem's Version 1.04>
 - Added juggle limits to certain special moves
 - Added animation frames to try and smoothen out his 3rd Intro

Redownload please

I hope that owl's hunt problem is gone. Thanks for the update bro

Glad you fixed this particular glitch
I will test.

EDIT : some feedback. (mostly animation ones - gameplaywise, I see nothing really problematic)

-jump HK : the 3rd frame with his knee going forward is displayed to long.
Instead, I suggest making the first frame longer, and 2nd frame slightly longer. 3rd frame can be displayed 3 ticks .
Again, the move itself is ok, just split the time before active hitbox the way I explained.
It will look way better.

-Stand HK : you should invert the 2 frames where he outstretches his leg up. (for a better elasticity effect)
It should be 1st outstretch the leg up, THEN , keep the pose with the leg getting back a bit from the tretched position.
(this is a common animation error in custom animated characters in Mugen)

-His special fire kick.
to make it look better, try to display slightly shorter the frames before the active hitbox.
Frames1, 2, 3 (nothing wrong)
Frames 4 and 5 (you can remove 1 tick for each - the animation will be better)
Again, you can add the lost "ticks" to the first frames (1, 2, 3), so the move still have the same time before active hitbox.
Don't change anything after frame 5.

-His idle stance. (optional)
I would recommand to speed up the part with breathing (only)
Actually, the problem is not the air file itself, it's the frames that are unnaturaly animated.
puttin 2 ticks instead of 4 for these parts make the animation look more natural (but it become too fast)

I think Ogre is in a decent place now, so there will be no further updates on short notice.
He will be revisited in the future though, for now I want to fully focus on Taki for the time being.

Nobody breathes like that (idle stance).

thanks for one more update !

Sure the stance is strangely animated as I told you some weeks ago. But the real way to fix it would be to draw the needed frames.
I'm not very good/pacient to animate idle stances. ^^;

Ogre updated to version 1.3.2
Mostly tweaks and fixes, redownload please

<Diek Stiekem's Version 1.3.2>
 - Indigo Punch can now be super cancelled
 - Crouching HP is now an overhead
 - Added combo count to throws
 - Corrected combo count on Hell Inferno