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Started by DatKofGuy, December 20, 2012, 07:06:40 AM
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Re: Final Fantasy MegaThread
#681  March 05, 2020, 03:48:10 AM
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Red XIII will only be a guest for certain sections and not a fully playable character. They wanted to spread out his character arc and give him time to develop.

That's a bit of a let down, but understandable.  He doesn't show up until right before the party escapes from Midgar, which is where the first part of the remake ends IIRC.  May as well hold off on fully implementing him until players actually have a decent opportunity to use him.
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#682  March 05, 2020, 09:52:40 AM
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what mode were you playing in? because when I open the battle menu whatever during a fight it slows down the actual fight itself. You didn't have enough time to choose then? The targeting thing I noticed too, was very easy to lose a lock on.
That was when I was trying to use the command shortcuts. And when I used the menus, I fumbled around between having to exit the menu, deal a couple more attacks to charge an atb bar (and block or dodge something), then reopen the menu. It's a lot of things to pay attention to, even with the slowdown - and it's a lot of different button inputs to keep up with at high speed when you're not in slowdown. And honestly, even in slowdown, it's easy to not know which button does what at a glance, so unless you look at everything carefully between every single button press, you can still mess up.
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Last Edit: March 05, 2020, 09:57:17 AM by Byakko
Re: Final Fantasy MegaThread
#683  March 05, 2020, 05:04:04 PM
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Took a run at the demo. Man, that's kinda scary. Between trying to pull off some moves to realize that your atb gauge doesn't quite have one level available yet, making sure the boss in't shooting at you (as if you would have the time to react to bullets), wondering if the other character you're not currently controlling has anything good to pull off with their atb gauge or if they're just doing their basic attack, not deciding fast enough if I should block or dodge an incoming attack... Things go really fast in battle, I died to the scorpion boss once. I'm gonna have to pause with the command menu pretty often. And it doesn't help that I kept fumbling between Cloud's and Barret's menu without being sure where I was going in the menus with which trigger button.
That pressure got me panicking around those menus a couple times. I really don't blame anyone for demanding a classic mode.


That sounds hot AF. makes me want to play the game.
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#684  March 05, 2020, 06:10:37 PM
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what mode were you playing in? because when I open the battle menu whatever during a fight it slows down the actual fight itself. You didn't have enough time to choose then? The targeting thing I noticed too, was very easy to lose a lock on.
That was when I was trying to use the command shortcuts. And when I used the menus, I fumbled around between having to exit the menu, deal a couple more attacks to charge an atb bar (and block or dodge something), then reopen the menu. It's a lot of things to pay attention to, even with the slowdown - and it's a lot of different button inputs to keep up with at high speed when you're not in slowdown. And honestly, even in slowdown, it's easy to not know which button does what at a glance, so unless you look at everything carefully between every single button press, you can still mess up.

Yea I understand the button mix up that happens to me too. Didn't feel overwhelmed by the menus though. I think it's something you can improve on in time
Re: Final Fantasy MegaThread
#685  April 04, 2020, 03:27:37 AM
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They're trying real hard to bury the lead about how much of the original game we're getting in this part 1...

edit - preorder is delivering physical copies early, it's go time for me.
Feels like the  ATB gauge charges a lot faster, it's much easier to pump specials and potions more regularly.
If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.
Last Edit: April 07, 2020, 08:17:14 PM by Byakko
Re: Final Fantasy MegaThread
#686  April 21, 2020, 05:47:13 AM
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Wow, really ? No one ?

48h for the normal mode, missed Tifa's Purple Pain and Aerith's Planet Protector (and you can't go back until you finish the game), and that fucking Raise materia takes forever to level up, so I missed that last battle report and Bahamut. Well, at least I have something to do with the chapter selection ! Beside switching the audio to Japanese, anyway. I loved Barret's performance, but I have to redo this in Japanese.
"Nailed it, I know, moving on !" was the best line in the whole game.
Jessie... was a funny surprise the first time when she suddenly got a personality in the demo, but for the whole game ? I dunno, it feels really weird. Even Cloud asks her if she's that desperate (and yet he still doesn't clap those cheeks for SOME reason). At some point it's just super weird and creepy that every single girl wants to jump his bone.

No item, no MP regeneration, hard mode sounds hella scary. Chakra, Pray, and Elemental materia will be great to mitigate the lack of items, cures, and elemental magic, but if one character dies in a fight, I'll just assume I'm fucked. Typical game plan is to stock pile on items because you never know when you'll need that extra single potion even in the end game (and keep those grenades but never use them), now it'll be "never use any spell because you never know when you'll need that last MP". Great.
Spoiler: The very end (click to see content)

On another note,

They made the AI do most of the work on lip sync with any language, facial expressions depending on the intonation of the voice actor, camera placement during minor NPC interactions, etc. That's insane.

edit -
doing my second play on Hard, and I really appreciate how they spread a shitload of dialog and visual cues all over the game that sprinkle very tiny details about the past (for Cloud, Tifa, Sephiroth). New players can take the time to replay this multiple times and notice all of those little dialog hints. So if you're a modern new player that likes to analyze his games and theory craft, you can gather up all those bits of information, line them up and connect them to understand the sequence of events, and figure out why Tifa hates Shinra and Cloud hates Sephiroth. You even have an equivalent of the Gold Saucer date scene, with a possibility to see Aerith, Tifa, or Barret in that night scene in Aerith's garden in chapter 14, and if you get Tifa, you can back up your understanding of their past some more.
This should be working rather well on today's Internet and Youtubers analyzing every detail of a game, even though it's easier to just look up the original game's wiki.
Spoiler: the end, again (click to see content)
If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.
Last Edit: April 22, 2020, 09:30:05 PM by Byakko
Re: Final Fantasy MegaThread
#687  April 24, 2020, 08:04:45 PM
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I've been thinking about the game for some days now, mulling it over since beating it, and it occurs to me what all this is reminding me of in the back of my mind.  This Remake is essentially the Evangelion Rebuild movies.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I will be that crotchety old fan and say I'm not particularly liking what they're doing with Biggs, Jessie and Wedge with their key alteration.  But I'm also not going to flip out of it and will wait to see what they do going forward.
Re: Final Fantasy MegaThread
#688  May 01, 2020, 11:24:56 AM
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In an interview in the recently released Ultimania, Nomura / Nojima / Kitase talk about the number of episodes there will be and when the next will come up. People have been worried that they still don't know how many episodes there will be and that must mean they don't fully know where they're going with the story.
In a nutshell, they do have a plan for the story, but they haven't decided how they'll cut it up. If they put more of the story in one episode, then it'll take longer to release that episode, and if they want to release it faster, then there will be more episodes.
My understanding of that is it'll probably rather depend on which story beat they want to end each episode on, like when they decided that the departure from Midgar was definitely a story beat worth ending episode 1 on (and then used the opportunity to pad Midgar a lot more). And like a big part of Midgar, it'll probably also have serious implications on how much padding / filler there will be in each section of the world depending on how they cut it up.
Spoiler: a point in the interview about the ending (click to see content)
So... When's the next major story beat ? Cosmo Canyon, Gold Saucer, meeting most of the rest of the cast, the Temple... I feel like we should get introduced with the Black Materia and explain the clones and the Reunion soon, but if they want to get that far, they'll have to avoid putting nearly as much padding as they did for Midgar. Or shift things around since Aerith will want to speed things up now (like move the Gold Saucer and Dyne later, Barret already got a good share of exposure). So just the eastern continent and southern islands IMO. The city of the Ancients, the North Crater, Cloud's mind can take episode 3.
If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.
Last Edit: May 01, 2020, 11:40:41 AM by Byakko
Re: Final Fantasy MegaThread
#689  May 01, 2020, 03:42:46 PM
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Spoiler: So about that ending (click to see content)
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New #690  May 01, 2020, 04:46:57 PM
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Spoiler: ending (click to see content)
If I struggled to the end of my determination, to the end of my way of life with my followers, if the result is ruin, then this ruin is inevitable. Grieve. Shed tears. But you cannot regret.
Last Edit: May 01, 2020, 05:18:13 PM by Byakko