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Started by K4thos, May 26, 2018, 03:04:27 AM
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Re: Ikemen GO
#1521  March 20, 2020, 08:33:01 PM
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You're welcome, yeah the links are on the first page now.
Re: Ikemen GO
#1522  March 21, 2020, 12:55:36 AM
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So.... Game kept closing when I tried to add the characters back in.... until I realized I just have to keep opening the game because it was loading 1 character at a time thus it kept closing until a certain amount. Interesting.
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#1523  March 21, 2020, 12:57:34 AM
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So.... Game kept closing when I tried to add the characters back in.... until I realized I just have to keep opening the game because it was loading 1 character at a time thus it kept closing until a certain amount. Interesting.

I'm Having The Same Problem!
Re: Ikemen GO
#1524  March 21, 2020, 02:05:50 AM
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Well it isn't really that bad if you think about it, just keep trying and it will work. Although I'm having trouble configuring the controls for Player 1-7 because it gave me a warning for having "conflict between button keys detected. All keys should have unique assignment. Fix the problem before exitting the key settings." and even if I already configure the config.json already, it won't allow any controls change anyways. The reason why this is happening because I set up the controls for all players with mostly the same key settings[player 2 and 5, player 3 and 6, and player 4 and 7 with same controls settings though keyboard], that I know, but I do that because it is much simpler for me so we can change controllers around when playing parsec via "joy2key" program so that we don't keep fighting the same people all the time. Well it's not that much a problem if I think about it, since I can just make player 1 only joystick and the others keyboards, since it is just barely enough anyways.   :laugh:

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Scratch that, apparently I can't seem to get even player 3 to work since player 1 controls player 3 every time on Simul.
Last Edit: March 21, 2020, 02:18:05 AM by Yuias
Re: Ikemen GO
#1525  March 23, 2020, 07:48:27 PM
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Greetings, people of MFG. I used to have an account here with my main email but have long lost it, and did not interact at all with you either. Anyway, I long wanted to try out this fancy reverse-engineering of the engine, as I like the consistency and features it seems to possess. I am used to the screenpack LEGACY (the one with normal, character-provided portraits) and I remember seeing screenpacks of similar quality for this engine -- I also remember being able to, in place of portraits, setting the characters' idle animation. Do you have any quick suggestions for quality screenpacks, and the documentation for the aforementioned alternative to traditional portraits? I am also wondering if the special, stage-bound boss introduction trick found in Mr. Ansatsuken's Akuma is still working with this (it is not vital, of course).
And lastly, is there anything remotely similar to VSelect? I am ready to be confined to editing text, but a graphical editor would be a nice addition.
"A warrior knows that an angel and a demon contend the hand that wields the sword. Says the demon : 《You shall fall. You will not find the right moment. You are scared.》 Says the angel : 《You shall fall. You will not find the right moment. You are scared.》The warrior is surprised. They both said the same thing. Then the demon continues : 《Let me help you.》 And the angel says : 《I will help you》. Now, the warrior perceives the difference. The words are the same, but the allies are different. Thus he chooses the hand of his angel.
- Paulo Coelho, "Manual do guerreiro da luz"
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Re: Ikemen GO
#1526  March 24, 2020, 07:59:43 PM
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Greetings, people of MFG. I used to have an account here with my main email but have long lost it, and did not interact at all with you either. Anyway, I long wanted to try out this fancy reverse-engineering of the engine, as I like the consistency and features it seems to possess. I am used to the screenpack LEGACY (the one with normal, character-provided portraits) and I remember seeing screenpacks of similar quality for this engine -- I also remember being able to, in place of portraits, setting the characters' idle animation. Do you have any quick suggestions for quality screenpacks, and the documentation for the aforementioned alternative to traditional portraits? I am also wondering if the special, stage-bound boss introduction trick found in Mr. Ansatsuken's Akuma is still working with this (it is not vital, of course).
And lastly, is there anything remotely similar to VSelect? I am ready to be confined to editing text, but a graphical editor would be a nice addition.
Reverse-engineering? Ok.  I didnt know you can call a new piece of software made from the scratch in a new coding language "reverse-engineering".

In words of one of the main devs  Ikemen Go is still pretty much in alpha-beta stage for having a stable release. So with new changes coming almost every month most people doesnt care yet of making tools that will not work the next month because the changes.
In this case since select.def is subject of changes, a tool like V select would have no sense until stable release. Select.def has passed by many changes, including having multiple characters in one slot, boss.

For the documentation, download a clean copy of the last version in the appveyor, the default screenpack are full documented about the new features you can use with a few examples, check system.def, fight.def and select.def.

For the new commands and their parameters visit K4thos wiki.
https://github.com/K4thos/Ikemen_GO/wiki
Incomplete and lacks of examples for now.
Re: Ikemen GO
#1527  March 24, 2020, 09:15:29 PM
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Reverse-engineering? Ok.  I didnt know you can call a new piece of software made from the scratch in a new coding language "reverse-engineering".
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Yes, as it can at least partly run the same things as the original (characters that worked in MUGEN work here too, right?) and has roughly the same objective while being coded from scratch and in this case being more polished.

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In words of one of the main devs  Ikemen Go is still pretty much in alpha-beta stage for having a stable release. So with new changes coming almost every month most people doesnt care yet of making tools that will not work the next month because the changes.
In this case since select.def is subject of changes, a tool like V select would have no sense until stable release. Select.def has passed by many changes, including having multiple characters in one slot, boss.

For the documentation, download a clean copy of the last version in the appveyor, the default screenpack are full documented about the new features you can use with a few examples, check system.def, fight.def and select.def.

For the new commands and their parameters visit K4thos wiki.
https://github.com/K4thos/Ikemen_GO/wiki
Incomplete and lacks of examples for now.
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I see, so no new screenpacks either as select.def would become outdated. But what about that fancy lifebar I keep seeing around? And, if I strip an old IKEMEN screenpack like that cool WarZoNe port of its select.def, would it theoretically work?
"A warrior knows that an angel and a demon contend the hand that wields the sword. Says the demon : 《You shall fall. You will not find the right moment. You are scared.》 Says the angel : 《You shall fall. You will not find the right moment. You are scared.》The warrior is surprised. They both said the same thing. Then the demon continues : 《Let me help you.》 And the angel says : 《I will help you》. Now, the warrior perceives the difference. The words are the same, but the allies are different. Thus he chooses the hand of his angel.
- Paulo Coelho, "Manual do guerreiro da luz"
Re: Ikemen GO
#1528  March 25, 2020, 11:07:45 PM
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Ikemen GO uses Mugen screen packs, it's just that has more [experimental] feature compare to the Mugen ones.
SSZ-Ikemen Plus uses his own screenpack format and can not be ported to Ikemen GO with ease.

So the best option is using Mugen screenpacks. (It support up to Mugen 1.1 screenpacks)
That said, screenpacks are the most unstable area of Ikemen GO and some could not work.

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Reverse-engineering? OK.  I didn't know you can call a new piece of software made from the scratch in a new coding language "reverse-engineering".
Yes, as it can at least partly run the same things as the original (characters that worked in MUGEN work here too, right?) and has roughly the same objective while being coded from scratch and in this case being more polished.
Ikemen GO it's technically a clone engine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clone_(computing)#Software
More specifically a rewritten of a clone. (Mugen -> S-Size Ikemen -> Ikemen GO)

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In another note, my PC laptop did broke (Literally, the case did broke and it does not charge) so I'll will be not able to update Ikemen GO until I get i fixed.
But wait!! We haven't made the Suave Dude character yet!!
Last Edit: March 25, 2020, 11:18:48 PM by Gacel
Re: Ikemen GO
#1529  March 25, 2020, 11:18:29 PM
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has someone the latest version to me make a test.

i'd like to see the current progress these days.

that's looking better every updating.
Re: Ikemen GO
#1530  March 25, 2020, 11:20:04 PM
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But wait!! We haven't made the Suave Dude character yet!!
Re: Ikemen GO
#1531  March 26, 2020, 04:15:33 AM
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In another note, my PC laptop did broke (Literally, the case did broke and it does not charge) so I'll will be not able to update Ikemen GO until I get i fixed.

Your laptop might have it's plug connected with wires and the solder sheered off. My old 2012 laptop did this.
Re: Ikemen GO
#1532  March 26, 2020, 12:38:02 PM
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Ikemen GO uses Mugen screen packs, it's just that has more [experimental] feature compare to the Mugen ones.
SSZ-Ikemen Plus uses his own screenpack format and can not be ported to Ikemen GO with ease.

So the best option is using Mugen screenpacks. (It support up to Mugen 1.1 screenpacks)
That said, screenpacks are the most unstable area of Ikemen GO and some could not work.

Incredible that it works with normal MUGEN 1.1 screenpacks.
The screenpack I like to use, LEGACY, comes as a full pack with a MUGEN executable and all. What's the clean way to copy-paste Ikemen GO for use into it? The binaries-only version does not work, presumably something obvious flies past my head.
"A warrior knows that an angel and a demon contend the hand that wields the sword. Says the demon : 《You shall fall. You will not find the right moment. You are scared.》 Says the angel : 《You shall fall. You will not find the right moment. You are scared.》The warrior is surprised. They both said the same thing. Then the demon continues : 《Let me help you.》 And the angel says : 《I will help you》. Now, the warrior perceives the difference. The words are the same, but the allies are different. Thus he chooses the hand of his angel.
- Paulo Coelho, "Manual do guerreiro da luz"
Re: Ikemen GO
#1533  March 26, 2020, 09:32:25 PM
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While I think it is amazing to be able to have different lifebars for each mode and even for their respective variations (like Simul 3P and 4P), the same does not apply to names and portraits. While we have the freedom to vary the lifebar, we do not have the same freedom for names and portraits and this is somewhat contradictory. See the example below:

0:00 - Simul
3:38 - Simul 3P
7:19 - Simul 4P

To be able to do this showcase, I had to create an extra text document with the code variations for name/simul portraits: 2P, 3P and 4P. Then copy and paste to record the matches individually. Usually when I suggest having things properly separated it is because of this. I know this is extra work, but as compensation the end result is much better.

By the way, you can notice that at the end of the last 2 rounds (8:02 and 9:01), there is a transparency problem with Ken's fx. And I also noticed that the problem with palfx that I reported before still exists. If you quit the fight at the beginning of a level1 or level2, the screen will have the effect of the color used to perform the hyper. Tested with DivineWolf's KFM and Jmorphman's Ken.
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Re: Ikemen GO
#1534  March 27, 2020, 02:25:17 AM
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Unfortunately I can't run Ikemen GO on my Ubuntu Bionic Beaver I don't know why.
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Re: Ikemen GO
#1535  March 28, 2020, 04:33:56 AM
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so.... how do I get Player 3 and 4 to work now? Adding controls to config doesn't seem to work because I can't get Simul mode to use 2 vs 2 with 4 players to work now. Unless I have to use Tag mode but Tag is just changing characters during battle though. Unless it hasn't been implement yet since this is a new version with new codes?