Oh my god 2022 is the YEAR of fighting game gold.

Nice! Can't wait to try this out!

Congrats on the release! That menu screen looks especially crisp. Great designs all around!

Tried it out and I’ve got to say Sean it’s a really fun game.

YES ! You did it!
The actual release!
Congratz!

I loved the game too, but I wish these soundtracks were not copyrighted from youtube and would be nice if Sean Allty could find someone can make a original music for this game or someone can help him out of making pure original music for the awesome master pieces

Everything looks pro. The design and care of the general aesthetics is amazing.
My petty and ambitious wish is that hopefully you plan to extend the life of the project with DLC seasons.
Congratulations and thanks for the release.

Looking forward to trying this bro.

Congrats! I was looking forward for this game.

Just did two quick arcade runs with Siege because I think she looks sick. The presentation of this game is extremely good. The movement also feels really good. Congratulations on the release, Sean!

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- Pressing c+z fills your defense meter instantly.
- Not a bug, but the AI has the issue of not using low buttons like at all. Because of this, you can get away holding back against most characters because you know they won't high/low mix you up. The only one that uses lows is Atleif because of low dash punch, and maybe Illian once in awhile.

Bryce:
- Readme says qcbk is millenium wheel and dpp is london eye, but the voice says the opposite
- LK > B+HP and cr.LK > cr. B+HP target combos whiff at most distances.
- s.HK hitspark looks misaligned.

Not feedback, just a fun Bryce combo
https://streamable.com/7k92ou

Elodie:
- You can cancel Deadly Nightshade at the end of the animation, which makes it look weird because she does the cancel animation twice.
- You can loop LP > HP > Violet Wing xx LP > HP > Violet Wing like 4 times in the corner which leads to extremely high damage: https://streamable.com/tk5qsk

I'll try to lab the characters some more and come up with more feedback

Nice stealth release. Time for a public demonstration!

This OST and sprites are hitting so hard, man! Good work.

This is the greastest wednesday of the year, for me; i'll totally breakdown this game's mechanics to the max, thanks dear Sean.

Illian:
- s.HK > QCB+P xx micro walk xx s.HK is an infinite:
https://streamable.com/p98ecs

Haven't had too much time to play yet but it's really fun! My only bit of feedback so far that hasn't already been said, is that Quavon's Defense Drive seems to not really work in the corner. It partially works and then he whiffs the rest because the opponent immediately wall bounces.

DauntlessMonk7 said, February 23, 2022, 08:44:49 pm

Speaking of Quavon, I think his red trunks palette has a bug where his trunks change color to blue during certain animations.

Yeah so I completely fucked up his palette when I added the "Q" to his chest, and I didn't realize it until I had added all the new sprites to the .sff. So rather than fix the sprites, I just tried to fix the palettes and this is one I missed. He used to have a bunch of good color separation since he was designed to be headswapped but I ruined it and didn't want to add the "Q" to every sprite all over again. I feel dumb for missing this, I just fixed it and will be in the next update. Thanks for catching this for me!

The problem is when the slow startup is hidden behind the hit stun of other attacks, or on wakeup. As merely food for thought, SF4 solved it with invincible back dashes.

- Following the game's logic, forward and back jumps could fill the respective power bars as well

Bryce:
- Jumping hard punch, when hitting air to air, allows the opponent to recover before he does. Could be an issue with more normals that hit downward
- London Fire Clsn1 is too big

Siege:
- It's easy to get an accidental super cancel when doing the full Gladio sequence, unless you do it slowly on purpose. One of those commands could be changed
- What's the purpose of reverse Rapide?

Zico:
- Maybe keep the flag with the right colors in all palettes. Imagine Tristan with an American flag that changes colors to see what I mean

The intro for the select screen's music reminds me of another one, but I can't recall what it is and it's killing me.

Sir, wanted to tell you how fantastic this turned out!  Just played through Arcade mode a few times; enjoyed it immensely!

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE LAUNCH!
I am delighted to have been able to work as a designer on a game as varied and unique as Last Bout, I really enjoyed every moment working together with everyone!
I released a video on my channel demonstrating the game, designs, etc along with the download link to this forum.
Please enjoy everyone, and thanks for the kind words!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNlQ7rKrIXI[/youtube]

- ReadMe says Quavon Crunch is performed by mashing LP/LK, but he does Widow Maker with LK. I think its a typo on the ReadMe because it seems intentional, as LK/HK decides the direction of the throw.

- I know all characters on the roster have little things that make them busted, but I think Quavon kinda cheats the grappler archetype too hard. I like that he can skip neutral with qcb+k, but I feel EX Shining Black is maybe too strong of a move. It's basically unreactable and has some very decent range so he starts forcing jumps at distances normal grapplers wouldn't. However, I think the real issue is that you can combo into it from light normals on block, which basically means he gets the knockdown whenever he has the bar, which means he gets to the grapppler's mixup with no effort whatsoever.

Gotta say it again: I love how the game feels and looks. Excellent job man, I'll keep labbing the rest of the cast.

I've noticed that Siege's Offensive Super dropped the target frequently when hitting airborne opponents, but I couldn't find a setup to consistently reproduce that bug. While labbing her theoretical max damaging combo, I got it:

https://streamable.com/wxpdmo

This specific combo uses the ego boosted Ascensio, which by the way I think is great. But I wish her taunt was shorter, because atm is very unpractical to setup. The taunt animation is long enough for your opponent to punish you even if you pop it after a knockdown. I feel her gameplay would gain a lot if the animation was fast enough for her to taunt safely after knockdown, but long enough for her to skip okizeme entirely after that. Oki is something Siege really appreciates because of the mantis slash pressure and crossup dash, so it would be a sizable prize to pay for the ego drive.

Congrats on the release! That menu screen looks especially crisp. Great designs all around!

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EDIT: I have to say, as a black man I really appreciate allowing 1P to be a black dude. It might seem super small but most fighting game companies don't even do this. Good to see the representation, even in an indie project. You're awesome.

A holdover from me starting with the CVTW template where that was big problem. I just realized a lot of characters probably have a similar issue, whoops

- The powerbars could use more visual indication that they are full Great point, I will add some sort of indicator

- London Fire is basically invisible in the Dojo stage You're right, I will either add some sort of indicator or something the stage floor to fix this

I actually looked into this at the last second, I was trying to find like a tutorial but no matter how I searched it I couldn't find what I was looking for. I will keep looking though because it's a feature I wanted to add

I'm going to sound really dumb here, but what does that entail? Making them recover in the air into a custom state that's invulnerable until they land? Or am I mixing up my fighting game terms, which I often do, lol

Steel Komodo said, March 16, 2022, 10:38:41 pm

I think there's a movelist inconsistency with Saito. One of his moves is listed as QCB2xK when it's actually QCB2xP. I tried getting it out with K multiple times before I found out it was actually P. Either the command needs changing to match the movelist or the other way around, but that really threw me.

Other than that, really enjoying the update! Did an arcade run with Bryce some time ago, and I think he, Atleif and Quavon are becoming my favourites so far.

Ahhhh whoops, I will fix that and update it, thanks!

duduleonel said, March 16, 2022, 11:18:13 pm

Good my friend. Your game is perfect. I follow his work and was looking forward to the release. I would like to ask a question: How do you create the picture frame (9000.1). What format do you save and have to index colors? I'm asking this because I saw that the image of the char is sharp and with vivid colors. When I do this in my project, it seems like it loses resolution/sharpness. I save in png normally, without indexing colors or saving in pcx.

Not really sure, I made the full character art with colors and everything, then sent them to Mordecool as .png files and he did the rest, so he may have done something to them.

• Yeah I just wanted to avoid long, flashy combos like in the SHADEs games. There are links but yes it's intentional that you should generally start with target combos.
• I can consider adding in hops, but I also wouldn't mind reducing jump heights in genera (would def have to reduce everyone's height as well so they can be jumped over). For cross-ups, everyone has a jumping normal with clsns designed to make it a cross-up, but the jump timing might be the issue. EDIT: Actually I just discovered Atleif and Vidael don't, whoops EDIT EDIT: Vidael does have one, it's her jumping LK. Also I just read that Boxer intentionally has no crossup in SFV so it might be normal for a boxing character not to have one. Hmmmm
• This is something I've heard from some others. I didn't do a Guard Meter in this game because I didn't want to clutter the screen and felt like the Guard Crushes, easy grabs, as well as mixups should be enough to deal with guarding opponents.
• Yeah I just decided to keep him simple with the low fireball only. Being the only main roster member with a projectile, I didn't want to give him too many tools for balance reasons. And yeah, I basically gave up trying to code the CC super and went with the super version of the projectile. This may get added in a future update.
• Well her normals chain, so a good BNB is just LP>HP>Glado x 2>Obsidio. Also the Dive kick followups to her diagonal teleport all leave plenty of time to start combos off of them. I've had one or two people tell me she's OP already but I want to keep her gameplay intact so she just may get her health or walk speed nerfed.

Damn it, I was too late to bring up another issue I found. One of Zico’s supers in the movelist has the same error as Sasuke’s - the command is listed as a kick when I believe it’s a punch.

Oh, well. I’ll download this update when I can and get back to enjoying the game. Looking forward to the DLC, but take your time on it!

It gets better and better with each update. I forgot to say this last time, but I love how you did throw escapes. And your solution for infinite meter in training is so simple it makes me feel stupid.

When you're more or less done with quality control, I think you should show this to other fighting game communities.

A few things for Elle:
- Morning Glory does not spend Ego Drive
- If you do Lilac Angel further than half screen or so, the hits will not combo between themselves
- Meadow Superstar retains invincibility in the recovery frames