First of all, you need to have made the character you are submitting (although edits are allowed),

and the deadline for submissions is June 8th, 2019.

Amidweiz said, May 27, 2019, 01:19:33 am

Cool idea, problem with it however

GeorgeMP said, May 26, 2019, 12:22:11 am

First of all, you need to have made the character you are submitting (although edits are allowed),

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEbl-umsFOM[/youtube]

Memes aside, you're really implying that the majority of people here that reside on this forum know how to create or even edit a character. (unless your yield for what you consider an edit is pretty low but still) I guarantee just because of this rule that not much people will enter a character for this. (since the people who'd want to enter a character for this would just want to enter any character for this)

I will accept edits of any kind, even simple ones (i.e. swapped sounds).

I will accept edits of any kind, even simple ones (i.e. swapped sounds).

I might consider pushing back the deadline if I don't get enough submissions in time.
I only need 10 submissions for Season 1 anyway.

• What "big prizes" are you talking about. You never disclosed them.
• Are you considering both rounds with this or just one (if so match.wins = 1 in the fight.def will help you out with that)
• What happens to one of the worse characters if they win the match up

TrueGemini said, May 27, 2019, 06:14:51 am

Hey yall, I see that some of you are a little confused when it comes to the plot/setup. So I've updated and extended the idea to help everyone get a better grasp on it. The link to it is in my signature! So enjoy! 

Ok first of all why didn't you just link it in this thread, and secondly the thread doesn't really address the problems we've brought up here.

Here's how I would set this up and you should most defiantly follow if you want this thing to well work at all

Spoiler: revision (click to see content)

• Allow anyone to pick any character, you have literal examples on the contrary in this thread for what your rule is currently
• Make the amount of people a power of 2 if you want this idea to function properly, byes suck (I learnt this the hard way with my past tournaments)
• Tell what the prize is, secrecy only leads to disappointment
• Maybe get a better selection of bonus games/bosses ones that the AI aren't just gonna stumble at because their coding can't physically do it (examples of bonus games that AI's struggle with Break the targets, SF2 Bricks, FF2 bonus, SS1 Bonus)

GeorgeMP said, May 27, 2019, 06:22:59 pm

Although I did intend for this to be a way of getting some people to start creating (or editing) characters.

People aren't going to make or edit characters specifically for this... and if that is the whole reason for the extremely limiting rules then that's a pretty poor reason to do so. Like I told you before the people who'd want to join this just want to enter any character edited or not. If you just follow what my revision had said

Amidweiz said, May 27, 2019, 08:19:40 am

Spoiler: revision (click to see content)

• Allow anyone to pick any character, you have literal examples on the contrary in this thread for what your rule is currently
• Make the amount of people a power of 2 if you want this idea to function properly, byes suck (I learnt this the hard way with my past tournaments)
• Tell what the prize is, secrecy only leads to disappointment
• Maybe get a better selection of bonus games/bosses ones that the AI aren't just gonna stumble at because their coding can't physically do it (examples of bonus games that AI's struggle with Break the targets, SF2 Bricks, FF2 bonus, SS1 Bonus)

Then all these problems would be gone, especially considering that you're double posting for people to submit characters I'd would listen to what I have to say in the revision. Due note I'm trying to help you here with this by the way

• Strength Training by POTS
• SoR2 by K-Fox
• Punch Cell by Sawady
• Stone Bonus by chin-ya
• Legion by Omegapsycho
• Control Box by sergeus
• Ice Pillar Smash by MAITAKE
• eye of cthulhu by MabsKMK

Amidweiz, your submission was rejected due to being overpowered.

GeorgeMP said, June 02, 2019, 05:37:11 pm

Amidweiz said, June 01, 2019, 07:39:10 pm

Nice, now with the rule change for my character I'll pick Kinyo Roadshow by The_none

Amidweiz, your submission was rejected due to being overpowered.

Ok wat, and yet you don't state what is overpowered with it. The only criteria I've seen for being overpowered is no characters with null states or insta-kill... which Kinyo Roadshow has none of those. Also considering the_none's version of Kinyo is you know way more fair than the original by googoo64 if you've taken a look at that before, so I still don't really see what's overpowered with him.

• The question you are still dodging by the way, why is Kinyo Roadshow by the_none overpowered. The rules that you have on the OP barely tells me anything other than I can't have characters that use the null overflow exploit (which is really only exclusive to winmugen for the most part) or have one hit KOs.
  
  GeorgeMP said, May 26, 2019, 12:22:11 am

  the character you are submitting must not be overpowered in any way (so stuff like null characters and one hit KO edits aren't allowed),
  

  You have to define more ground rules than this, not some shadow rule or some bias you have towards a character for whatever reason. People can't read your mind, nor they can't really judge your taste in mugen characters to appease you. When I did my mugen tournaments, I had ground rules which where
  
  
  • Chibi characters will be upsized to the size of shovel knight by roysquadrocks
  • No bonus game characters
  • No characters that do infinites
  • No apocalypse, Onslaught, etc like characters
  
  
  There needs to be something similar to this with yours or else people are just tossing characters at the wall to see what sticks, and that's a really bad method upon getting people to enter for this.
  
  
• Some of your choices of mini games are well really bad for the AI to attempt. (I used choi for one because it easily demonstrates the problem with that one) The ones I didn't have links to are pretty tolerable for the AI to do like the version of break the targets you have, sf2 car, and sf2 barrels. The others require way to much specific things the AI will never figure out other than by sheer luck or if the author programmed the character to react to it. (FF2 bonus requires people to hit the top and the bottom half of the pillar three times, sf2 bricks causes glitches, and SS1 dummies most AIs just dart to the corner)  I would recommend using some of the mini games I posted in my previous post
  Amidweiz said, June 01, 2019, 07:39:10 pm

  • Strength Training by POTS
  • SoR2 by K-Fox
  • Punch Cell by Sawady
  • Stone Bonus by chin-ya
  • Legion by Omegapsycho
  • Control Box by sergeus
  • Ice Pillar Smash by MAITAKE
  • eye of cthulhu by MabsKMK

  
  All these mini games don't require the AI to get them by sheer luck because of their simplicity
  

• The question you are still dodging by the way, why is Kinyo Roadshow by the_none overpowered.