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M.U.G.E.N Central => Your Releases, older Mugen => Found Releases => Topic started by: Kanbei on March 05, 2014, 01:54:22 am

Title: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Kanbei on March 05, 2014, 01:54:22 am
(http://i.imgur.com/3DpoTKw.gif)

Topic link: http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t3049-star-fox-s-fox-mccloud-released
Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/download/9zclg4jm7pncbpm/fox.zip
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Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Japanese Jesus on March 05, 2014, 02:17:14 am
There are some things that need to be worked out, like the "I'm on my way" dash being spammable, but it is not as bad as I thought it would be.

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Something is definitely wrong with the G-Diffuser though.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Kanbei on March 05, 2014, 02:18:57 am
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Something is definitely wrong with the G-Diffuser though.
I'm uploading a video showing the problem.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Karasai on March 05, 2014, 02:22:38 am
A couple more screenshots
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Seems like he only has two kind of attacks, other buttons do nothing. Blaster move is a flip kick when close
No crouching attacks
Tail seems out of place, due to the rest of the sprites having black outlines

Hitboxes are strange
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Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Kanbei on March 05, 2014, 02:25:51 am
I played with his fox some more, I think he swapped him over his megaman x...  ._.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on March 05, 2014, 02:29:29 am
he needs to stop rushing his characters. its DK all over again. i was pretty hype to see this.
nice attempt though i do have some feedback..

1.sprites are misaligned
2.voices are weird.(i figured u would use the voices from Smash bros...but im guessing those are from the N64 fox game...so that really isnt feedback 3.if so. )
4.megaman death animation doesnt make sense...as well as the constant, continuous explosions.
5.special fx are misaligned

though starfox was definetely needed for mugen, i wish you wouldn't rush releases though. rather have a few characters that are amazing, than tons of "potential".
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: MotorRoach on March 05, 2014, 04:48:51 am
The sprites in here are really inconsistent. For a sample, his whole upper body has black outlining, while the rest has colored outlines. That and I don't understand his palette either. He used a different set of white shades for the face when he could just have shared the ones from his jacket, and maybe the same with the... grey... thing on the side of his head, which would probably save him work when shading the sprites (if he didn't recycle body parts for his characters so much in a wrong way). Also, his mouth, it just bothers me. It extends all way to the back of his head. That's just wrong, and there's no excuse for that, no reference of Fox shows his mouth even stretching that far.

In short, it seems like he just wanted a Fox being made in mugen so badly (same with probably everything he has made). Did anyone ever talk to Ax and criticize his work? Because otherwise, I doubt he'll ever improve from doing that.

Kind of off topic, but did anyone ever see his profile on Mugen Multiverse:

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2v2i6uf.png)

Is he trying to imply something or is this some kind of bad joke?
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 05, 2014, 04:51:48 am
Did anyone ever talk to Ax and criticize his work? Because otherwise, I doubt he'll ever improve from doing that.
I'm pretty sure that's happened at least when he was still active here.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Kanbei on March 05, 2014, 04:57:22 am
I'm pretty sure that's happened at least when he was still active here.
He blows people off at MFFA when they try to help him, its sad just sad.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Laharl on March 05, 2014, 05:42:01 am
hes a lost cause ive given up giving him any kind of advice ever.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 05, 2014, 05:47:17 am
I'm so glad you decided to let us know.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Niitris on March 05, 2014, 05:58:43 am
Is he trying to imply something or is this some kind of bad joke?

From what I've archived about Ax and his time here he wasn't exactly the most well-adjusted member here, so it's not too surprising.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: DNZRX768 on March 05, 2014, 06:12:49 am
Hmm... From the above comments, he seems to be the kind of person who never listens to advice or improve.

So sad...
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 05, 2014, 03:47:39 pm
Kind of off topic, but did anyone ever see his profile on Mugen Multiverse:

Is he trying to imply something or is this some kind of bad joke?

He also posted this:

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Thanks for the feedback but you know I guess I don't care about it. I'm happy where it is with infinites and misaligned sprites. They don't bother me and I don't notice it or it's not a problem for me. You know what I do I just don't keep pressing the button to cause an infinite. I just press it sparingly. Also in real life I doubt a guy will pause after every shot so he can be shot back fairly.

Iirc, he got banned from here for spouting something along the lines of how he became a born-again christian and how he quit mugen because downloading mugen characters was equivalent to worshipping false idols, and how he wouldn't stop quoting stuff from the bible and whatnot. Then there's the time prior to that where he used consistently make pro-nazi posts, but I'm sure someone else can provide the details of that better than I can.

More than likely this time around it's just him being a bad troll again, only this time its also showing in his works (not that his stuff was ever perfect to begin with, it just seems that hes intentionally releasing bad characters this time around)
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Niitris on March 05, 2014, 04:06:58 pm
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Thanks for the feedback but you know I guess I don't care about it. I'm happy where it is with infinites and misaligned sprites. They don't bother me and I don't notice it or it's not a problem for me. You know what I do I just don't keep pressing the button to cause an infinite. I just press it sparingly. Also in real life I doubt a guy will pause after every shot so he can be shot back fairly.

Mugen Multiverse ftw.

... [Ax] got banned from here for spouting something along the lines of how he became a born-again christian and how he quit mugen because downloading mugen characters was equivalent to worshipping false idols...

All hail Mugen, the land in which our idols reside. :egypt:
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Umezono on March 05, 2014, 05:02:48 pm
Can we keep discussion to this (bad) character please
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: MotorRoach on March 05, 2014, 07:43:25 pm
Personally, I don't think there is anything else to talk about. Ax clearly thinks his character is as good as it is, because "it doesn't bother him", he "can't see the problems", and he thinks it's totally alright to have infinites on his characters. That all sums up the quality dedication he has on any of his characters, bcuz why improv, amirite?
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Griffin JAGElroy on March 05, 2014, 08:22:17 pm
You probably know this by now but THOSE SPRITES JESUS FUCK MY EYES CHRIST
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: TrinitroRoy on March 05, 2014, 08:36:45 pm
Ax clearly thinks his character is as good as it is, because "it doesn't bother him", he "can't see the problems", and he thinks it's totally alright to have infinites on his characters. That all sums up the quality dedication he has on any of his characters, bcuz why improv, amirite?
Damn, I'm really trying to not punch him in the face very hard, but it's like he is asking for it.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 05, 2014, 08:39:39 pm
You planning on patenting that tech to punch people through the internet, Trin?
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Erroratu on March 05, 2014, 08:46:10 pm
Damn, I'm really trying to not punch him in the face very hard, but it's like he is asking for it.
You can actually punch people through the internet?
Internet Sex just got a whole new meaning
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Griffin JAGElroy on March 05, 2014, 08:47:00 pm
Damn, I'm really trying to not punch him in the face very hard, but it's like he is asking for it.
You can actually punch people through the internet?
Internet Sex just got a whole new meaning

Cyber-fisting? Yikes man
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: TrinitroRoy on March 05, 2014, 08:47:33 pm
You planning on patenting that tech to punch people through the internet, Trin?
I have already enough of those ignorant and arrogant pricks, who claim to know better, so I just use my RC Portal Gun to create a portal hole in my PC, and a portal hole in the PC of my chosen target automatically appears as well (hence the addition RC), so I can just punch them in the face very easily.
However, I'm not sure, if I can ever replicate my RC Portal Gun, since creating the first one was already a risky task...
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Cybaster on March 05, 2014, 11:53:01 pm
Well, Ax doesn't owe you anything and doesn't deserve a punch in the face because he releases bad stuff.
He makes bad stuff and is happy with it ? Then so be it. It's a lost cause. You know it, I know, so why care ? Just don't download his stuff since you already know how horrible it will be, both coding-wise and sprite-wise.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 05, 2014, 11:55:54 pm
Stay on topic. Stop talking about ridiculous stuff like punching people through the internet or whatever. If there's nothing more to say, then let this topic die. It's not that complex.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Iced on March 06, 2014, 12:02:45 am
Personally, I don't think there is anything else to talk about. Ax clearly thinks his character is as good as it is, because "it doesn't bother him", he "can't see the problems", and he thinks it's totally alright to have infinites on his characters. That all sums up the quality dedication he has on any of his characters, bcuz why improv, amirite?

There is no point wasting time with Ax.

Ax has been both convinced that mugen was idolizing and it was against his christian religion and a nazi defender who thought hitler was right, there is nothing he says that should be wasted time on.
you can see his threads as being a quirky "well how about that"
but wasting time with him is wasting time with someone that is so dumb that he is at separate times both christian , nazi and a person with delusions of grandeur, he would fit old guild principles to a T.

Likewise, anyone going on about wanting to punch him in the face because of BAD CHARS is tryhard as fuck and should just get something else to do with their time.

You either want to discuss the character, which has little to say, or you let the topic die, theres no need to be dragging this out.( not to motoroach specifically but to everyone)
You know what thread needs the attention? Every other thread surrounding this one, go there and post if you dont have anything to really add here. thanks.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Umezono on March 06, 2014, 12:08:19 am
Ax clearly thinks his character is as good as it is, because "it doesn't bother him", he "can't see the problems", and he thinks it's totally alright to have infinites on his characters. That all sums up the quality dedication he has on any of his characters, bcuz why improv, amirite?
Damn, I'm really trying to not punch him in the face very hard, but it's like he is asking for it.
Um, no. Don't post here if you're gonna be an idiot.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Iced on March 06, 2014, 12:13:07 am
You planning on patenting that tech to punch people through the internet, Trin?
I have already enough of those ignorant and arrogant pricks, who claim to know better, so I just use my RC Portal Gun to create a portal hole in my PC, and a portal hole in the PC of my chosen target automatically appears as well (hence the addition RC), so I can just punch them in the face very easily.
However, I'm not sure, if I can ever replicate my RC Portal Gun, since creating the first one was already a risky task...

I hadnt even seen this post, what made you think it was okay to post this after umezono and the other had already warned not to post like this.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Jango on March 06, 2014, 12:19:49 am
Don't worry he's not gonna hurt anyone.

BECAUSE THE CAKE IS A LIE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34)

You're a beautiful audience. Goodnight!
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: Niitris on March 06, 2014, 12:28:11 am
He makes bad stuff and is happy with it ? Then so be it.

This.

It's fair to be disappointed with Ax and the quality of his work. Trying to force those standards onto everything is another thing entirely (and isn't as helpful as one may believe in the grand scheme of things).

Maybe someone will be interested enough to make an improved edit or hell, enjoy it for what it is. Maybe Ax himself will decide if it's worth putting more effort into. Silly (and facetious) physical threats accomplishes nothing.
Title: Re: Fox McCloud by Ax
Post by: crom on March 17, 2014, 04:49:18 pm
I can live with these sprites, no problem, hitboxes also, but the infinite could be fixed, should be. I would hope Ax would listen and consider fixing that. I've talked to him, he's not a bad dude, IMO. I mean considering 90% of the MUGEN community never talks in forums like in person, it's 80 to 90% rude behavior, bossy, sarcastic, etc.. In person most people have boundaries in communication, and the MUGEN community is probably the most rude there is. I live in boxing and MMA forums for 80% of my internet usage, and amongst groups of real life lions, the rude, sarcastic, and dominant type behavior is less in those forums than in any MUGEN forum you can go to. I smile at punch threats, etc.. Going where people get paid to punch other men and they hardly ever threaten to do so will open your eyes. Anyways, to be semi relevant to this topic. Fix the infinite and maybe add some crouch attacks and I'd like this. I downloaded the Donkey Kong because I personally think those sprites are great. I am going to test him a little more later. I have taken Fox here out of my roster and going to PM Ax and see if he'd consider fixing at least those infinites. I'm going to try it in a tactful way, non sarcastic and, well, civil like. If he doesn't want to, it's his mind and body to do with as he will. His stuff is totally open source, so maybe another will fix it. I may try so myself once I get this coding figured out, IF i do.