Post by: Sean Altly on June 09, 2020, 01:18:53 am
With SHADEs of Manhattan 3 done (save for the upcoming addition of The Specialist), I started working on a personal fun project that I wanted to do for a long time, Shawn Spencer from one of my favorite shows (Psych) with gameplay based partially on Phoenix Wright from UMVC3. I wanted to take a little break from spriting him and ended up going down a rabbit hole on Mugen Archive that, long story short, inspired me to return to Capcom vs The World.
I started messing around with those DBZ: Extreme Butoden sprites (I remember intending to use Balthazar's incredible Goku Z2 sprites but then the EB ones came out and they just fit the general sprite style of CvTW better) and next thing I knew I was coding Goku for CvTW '20. Here's a preview vid:
I should note that since I posted this video, I've fixed the Ki Blast sound as it was pointed out to me that the sound I used is for jumping in the DBZ universe, which I didn't know because I'm honestly not a big fan and had to base his gameplay and moves on what he had sprites for and on his moveset from Dragon Ball FighterZ. I've also added EX versions of every special, as well as aerial versions of all of his specials (except the command grab) because if there's one thing I DO know about DBZ, it's that those fuckers be fighting in the air a bunch.
Anyway, let me go ahead and say this: Whatever plans I had for the roster from when this game had its own sub-forum I'm disregarding, although some of those characters are still planned.
As far as what I am updating, right now it's just adding characters, and maybe a stage or two if I can find a couple that fit the style. I would love to update the whole thing to Mugen 1.1 with zoom and whatnot, but I'm not sure where to start. If anyone knows of a tutorial or guide to converting characters to 1.1 that would be great. If I decide to go to 1.1, it may result in new stages completely unless the existing stages have been updated at some point (still gotta do some research on this).
Here are the planned character additions for now:
CAPCOM
1. Joe (SF1)
2. M. Bison (SF2)
3. Hinata (Rival Schools)
4. Jedah (Darkstalkers 3)
5. ???
NOTES:
-I know this is a lot of SF representation but I want the Joe sprites to get used for something, especially since I've added some animations to him recently, and I have to go with what sprites are available.
-For the fifth slot, I am considering Leon because I think I can salvage/improve on the sprites used in the MVC2 Leon released recently by O87-B, although I do wish I could get my hands on the animations that were finished for Li-Kun's version with the RE4 outfit, but I have no idea whatever happened to those.
-Fifth slot could also go to Frank West since I know Balmsold did end up finishing the sprites, though I do worry if they will fit in with the rest stylistically speaking
-Also considering C. Viper, which would require no sprite work by me and would up number of female characters in the game and add a little variety to the gameplay
THE WORLD
1. Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
2. Mario Mario (Super Mario Bros. The Movie)
3. Shawn Spencer (PSych)
4. Billy the Blue Ranger (Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers)
5. Bloodtide (SHADEs of Manhattan)
-Some time last year someone messaged me about the Mario Mario sprites that Jango commissioned me to make. He told me that Jango said he had lost the sprites some time ago and never actually released a finished character using them. Luckily I still have them all and have decided to add him to the game in lieu of a more traditional Mario.
-Also, a friend suggested to me the other day that I add a Power Ranger to the game and then I realized that Balthazar made almost an entire sprite sheet for Billy and released it to the public. I've PMed him about what the intended movelist was for him so I can make proper use of the sprites.
-The addition of Bloodtide is simply for gameplay variety and so that I can make some use of these amazing sprites (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2464100) created by Pin but sent to me too late to be used for SHADEs 3.
SUGGEST STUFF
It was also pointed out to me that there have been tons of new sprites and resources released since I last worked on the game, most of which I may be unaware of, so that being said, If anyone would like to suggest characters go ahead, as long as they have sprites that will fit into this game's style (so CVSish or stuff close to my style of sprites).
Going to add a video previewing Mario Mario later today, along with updated Goku stuff. Let me know what you fine folks think!
EDIT: Here it is:
EDIT AGAIN
Since people keep asking questions about the roster and don't seem to remember who is in the game already, here is the complete roster list from the last update I released several years ago:
CAPCOM
Ryu (Street Fighter)
Chun-Li (Street Fighter II)
Charlie (Street Fighter Alpha)
Alex (Street Fighter III)
Jin Saotome (Cyberbots)
Mike Haggar (Final Fight)
Arthur (Ghosts 'n Goblins)
Jill valentine (Resident Evil)
Skullomania (Street Fighter EX)
Leo (Red Earth)
Megaman (Megaman)
Morrigan (Darkstalkers)
Ken (Street Fighter)
Mr. X (Resident Evil 2)
Strider Hiryu (Strider)
THE WORLD
Jin Kazama (Tekken 3)
Squall Leonhart (Final Fantasy VIII)
Blaze Fielding (Streets of Rage)
Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat)
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
Lynn Baker (Rage of the Dragons)
Captain America (Marvel Universe)
Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)
K' (King of Fighters '99)
Superman (DC Universe)
Rorschach (DC Universe)
CM Punk (WWE)
Det. Garret Laurel (SHADEs of Manhattan 2)
Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog)
BONUS
CM Punk (Pre-BITW version) (WWE)
Sabotage (SHADEs of Manhattan)
Snow (SHADEs of Manhattan)
Adamas (SHADEs of Manhattan)
Cactuar (Final Fantasy VI)
And for good measure, here is the latest decision on the new characters
CAPCOM
Guy (Final Fight)
M. Bison (Street Fighter II)
Jedah Dohma (Darkstalkers 3)
Fiona Belli (Haunting Ground/Demento)
Pure & Fur (Adventure Quiz: Capcom World 2)
Albert Wesker (Resident Evil)
THE WORLD
Mario Mario (The Super Mario Bros. Movie)
Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
Bloodtide (SHADEs of Manhattan)
Shawn Spencer (Psych)
Jotaro Kujo (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)
Billy the Blue Ranger (Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers)
BONUS
Joe (Street Fighter)
Kung Fu Man (Mugen)
Post by: Janis L.C.V. on June 09, 2020, 01:49:05 am
And its nice to see this project come back too to finally get finished. Can't wait for more!
Post by: Sean Altly on June 09, 2020, 01:54:05 am
Post by: Ethan The Human on June 09, 2020, 01:55:01 am
As for suggestions, maybe you could put some good use to Ink's Necro edits: https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/cvsish-necro-sprite-set-184158.msg2410596.html#msg2410596 (https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/cvsish-necro-sprite-set-184158.msg2410596.html#msg2410596)
Post by: 【ＭＦＧ】gui0007 on June 09, 2020, 01:56:06 am
Surely 2020 is the year of the great returns on MUGEN.
Post by: RagingRowen on June 09, 2020, 01:59:15 am
Ken could do with an update seeing there's Jmm's version which has better FX, more voices and what not.
Weren't there supposed to be 6 remaining chars though (On the visible selection)?
The World could get a 2nd SNK/KOF char, Terry being the safest choice for me (K' feels like a very secondary choice).
A 2nd Marvel char wouldn't hurt either.
Post by: YugaCurry on June 09, 2020, 02:00:53 am
Post by: Sean Altly on June 09, 2020, 02:12:56 am
Kinda expected you to return to this at one point.
Ken could do with an update seeing there's Jmm's version which has better FX, more voices and what not.
Weren't there supposed to be 6 remaining chars though (On the visible selection)?
The World could get a 2nd SNK/KOF char, Terry being the safest choice for me (K' feels like a very secondary choice).
A 2nd Marvel char wouldn't hurt either.
Yeah but I can always edit the select screen if I need to, I'm just trying not to overextend myself so I don't get burrnt out like last time.
Terry is a safe bet and I think there might actually be a CVTW edit of him out there already that I could start off with.
I had intended to add Dr. Doom originally, but he's on the backburner. Seriously considering Spider-Man due to popularity or Black Widow since there are decent sprites for her.
How about Spiderman? Color seperated sprites exist too.
Would you mind PMing me a link for them in case I decide to add him?
Also, I just added the Mario preview to the first post!
Post by: 【ＭＦＧ】gui0007 on June 09, 2020, 02:15:07 am
Post by: RagingRowen on June 09, 2020, 02:20:36 am
Do you still have plans for Bosses and Sub-Bosses (e.g. One or Two for each Side)?
Post by: Nemuresu on June 09, 2020, 02:30:24 am
My suggestion on Mario would be for his jump special to have some kind of EX variant so he can bounce off the opponents head. Unless that's too out of place.
As for other characters to suggest, I'd say Frank could easily work out well if the level-up mechanic from MvC could be implemented, but that's only because I can't imagine him without it. Now,
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 09, 2020, 02:30:49 am
:yuno:
Oh also would Tristan, Punk, Snake and Rorschach end up in this? I still remember Tristan was supposed to be in some form of fullgame but it never panned out (I can't believe I remember you made CM Punk once)
Post by: Janis L.C.V. on June 09, 2020, 02:36:38 am
Yeah man, and what's crazy is I made them back in like 2013 or 2014, the full set with a crumple anim and all the fixins. I avoided doing anything with them myself because Jango paid for them, but he never put anything out so it's probably way past fair game at this point.
Interesting. Well, those sprites at least have a new home here, and seeing the vid, I'm excited. I can't wait.
As for suggestions, I wonder how possible it is to use someone from Melty Blood or Martial Masters. Both have 'kinda' similar styles for what your going for (CvS/CPS2).
Post by: gem a.k.a. MiltJr on June 09, 2020, 02:46:37 am
Post by: YugaCurry on June 09, 2020, 02:59:51 am
Would you mind PMing me a link for them in case I decide to add him?
Done
Post by: CozySquirtle on June 09, 2020, 03:35:29 am
Post by: CinderFallFan on June 09, 2020, 03:43:08 am
Post by: Roasted Pheasant on June 09, 2020, 03:59:21 am
Glad to see ya return to this project.
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ydBkyCXfao
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 09, 2020, 04:12:36 am
-Blade/Zox has made a full spritesheet of Wesker (Infinite has an .sff already CS’ed) and a few others, but most notably his Phoenix spritesheet is the one that is particularly good. It should be mentioned that Infinite also made Dr. Doom and Taskmaster, and both have an .sff with CS and FX ready to go.
-Nestor put out a beta of Fiona Belli from Haunting Ground a while back, with cvs sprites made by Li_kun. Most of her moveset is there. She is missing a few moves that Beximus was going to use on his version of for CU. I imagine that he could pass them along to you if you decide to include Fiona.
-Supergirl by Toni has some superb CPS2-ish sprites available to use as well.
-No more Rikimaru?
I know these are mostly marvel characters but they seem to have made some leaps and bounds in terms of sprites in these last couple of years.
Post by: GTOAkira on June 09, 2020, 06:39:33 am
Post by: GreenZed on June 09, 2020, 06:51:12 am
Back in the day this was one of the few reasons why I joined Guild (the other being Nunor's Database). In addition to the post by PBRTODD101, I'm going to repost some things, I've sent you in PM few years ago:
- There was a regular Mario in CvTW style made by Steel Komodo. Maybe still worth including?
- I remember you wanted Dr.Wily to increase the villain count. There's one by Daeron and NDSilva, he would fit perfectly.
- If you are going to include Terry, it might be worth it to check out Dampir’s MOTW CvS Terry sprites.
- There are CvS sprites for Zero, but they were not "officialy" released, I do belive. They are pretty much done, however, user named Mr.Karate JKA was working on him.
- Yoko Littner was a winner in community poll for female characters, so it might be worth it to check her edited sprites by Froz with Hi-Res FX.
Finally, what happened to Guy? I thought he was already done, just wasn't released. Anyway, hoping for more stages. Midnight Skyline by EXShadow/Vibrant would be perfect.
Best of luck with this project!
Post by: Sean Altly on June 09, 2020, 07:24:32 am
Man, am I really excited to see this project coming back.
My suggestion on Mario would be for his jump special to have some kind of EX variant so he can bounce off the opponents head. Unless that's too out of place.
As for other characters to suggest, I'd say Frank could easily work out well if the level-up mechanic from MvC could be implemented, but that's only because I can't imagine him without it. Now,given that there aren't any RE charactersmy bad I forgot Jill is in the game, I'd suggest to check Zox's Albert Wesker, since I think he has good sprites.
Don't forget Mr. X!
Christ man, you sold me at Bob Hoskins Mario.
:yuno:
Oh also would Tristan, Punk, Snake and Rorschach end up in this? I still remember Tristan was supposed to be in some form of fullgame but it never panned out (I can't believe I remember you made CM Punk once)
CM Punk, Solid Snake and Rorschach are already in CVTW, they were included in either the first release or one of the first updates. Tristan not so much because I'm already pushing it using so many of my OCs from SHADEs, lol
IIRC, back when there was a poll to vote on who'd everyone would like to see in the game, I remember John Cena being on that poll and he took 2nd or 3rd place. Is there any consideration of him possibly making it into the game at this point in time? I don't recall there being any other wrestlers, aside from CM Punk in the game and it'd be pretty dope to see another wrestler such as John Cena in the game.
Probably not, Cena would be a whole spriteset. As far as that goes, I'm just focusing on Shawn Spencer and trying to do the rest with existing resources. If I end up doing any more original sprites, I would probably end up finishing Axel Stone or Batman but I'm not sure yet.
-Gladiacloud has made full spritesheets of Saki from TvC/Quiz Nanairo Dreams, Pure from Three Wonders, Ton Pooh from Strider, Jubilee, Dormammu, a new Arthur spritesheet which could replace some of Acey’s old sprites (especially for the normals), Lou also from Three Wonders, Michelle Heart from Legendary Wings, and even the Unknown Soldier from Forgotten Worlds. There is a lot to choose from here.
-Blade/Zox has made a full spritesheet of Wesker (Infinite has an .sff already CS’ed) and a few others, but most notably his Phoenix spritesheet is the one that is particularly good. It should be mentioned that Infinite also made Dr. Doom and Taskmaster, and both have an .sff with CS and FX ready to go.
-Nestor put out a beta of Fiona Belli from Haunting Ground a while back, with cvs sprites made by Li_kun. Most of her moveset is there. She is missing a few moves that Beximus was going to use on his version of for CU. I imagine that he could pass them along to you if you decide to include Fiona.
-Supergirl by Toni has some superb CPS2-ish sprites available to use as well.
-No more Rikimaru?
I know these are mostly marvel characters but they seem to have made some leaps and bounds in terms of sprites in these last couple of years.
-I looked into a bunch of those based on your post and I really like Pure & Fur's sprites the most, so they may be added
-I've been through that sprite set a bunch and it's nice and fluid in spots, but fairly choppy in others. It might be a little more work than I want to take on to get the sprites to blend in to my satisfaction, but probably less work than getting those Leon sprites up to snuff
-I'll have to check it out but Superman and Supergirl might be overdoing it
-Not right now but the sprites are there so we'll see, just don't have much interest in the character
Holy shit, Holyshit, holyshit, is this real? Holy shit.
Back in the day this was one of the few reasons why I joined Guild (the other being Nunor's Database). In addition to the post by PBRTODD101, I'm going to repost some things, I've sent you in PM few years ago:
- There was a regular Mario in CvTW style made by Steel Komodo. Maybe still worth including?
- I remember you wanted Dr.Wily to increase the villain count. There's one by Daeron and NDSilva, he would fit perfectly.
- If you are going to include Terry, it might be worth it to check out Dampir’s MOTW CvS Terry sprites.
- There are CvS sprites for Zero, but they were not "officialy" released, I do belive. They are pretty much done, however, user named Mr.Karate JKA was working on him.
- Yoko Littner was a winner in community poll for female characters, so it might be worth it to check her edited sprites by Froz with Hi-Res FX.
Finally, what happened to Guy? I thought he was already done, just wasn't released. Anyway, hoping for more stages. Midnight Skyline by EXShadow/Vibrant would be perfect.
Best of luck with this project!
-Ah yes, I remember this, I'll check it out, but if I remember the sprites still just didn't quite fit
-Def gonna check that one out because Dr. Wily would be really cool to have in there
-Honestly I prefer classic Terry
-I was considering Zero heavily, I think I even downloaded that version to check out the sprites and didn't do much else
-Oh yeah, Yoko, she did win that poll, I'll consider it, although part of the bonus of bringing this back after 7 or so years was to start fresh in a way
-Guy was finished, he's actually in the build I'm using in the videos as an off-screen select next to Haggar, I just kind of forgot about him
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 09, 2020, 08:52:01 am
- B. Orchid from Killer Instinct (Ahrimanes' sprites are great)
- Batman (I think Alucard's one has the best sprites) (I actually forgot if this game had Batman or not)
- Link from TLOZ (the sprites used in Napoleon Jonamite's version are great)
- Ivy from Soul Calibur (the sprites used in CvS Artist's version are pretty good, but the sword could use some adjustments)
Well, I didn't remember much, I'm sleepy as fuck right now.
Post by: Gladiacloud on June 09, 2020, 09:15:35 am
Arthur, for example: I totally resprited him:
I hope to see full sprited all-new Capcom characters from you, as happened with Haggar.
There are a lot of Capcom Games with interesting characters that still needs to be well sprited: Power Stone, Breath of Fire, Black Tiger, Plasma Sword...
Post by: dakidbanks on June 09, 2020, 09:53:31 am
He also made a full sprite sheet for Eric Draven from The Crow movie, Pinhead and Michael Myers
(https://i.ibb.co/1mZy5fN/crow-sprite-sheet-revision.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/LPt5PJK/Michael-Myers-Sprite-Sheet-revision.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/fqB9JL/Pinhead-Sprite-Sheet.png)
No one has made an attempt to code any of the sprites besides a few attempts at Michael Myers. Once again, can't tell if they match the sprite style you use at the moment
Post by: lui on June 09, 2020, 11:04:00 am
-For the fifth slot, I am considering Leon because I think I can salvage/improve on the sprites used in the MVC2 Leon released recently by O87-B, although I do wish I could get my hands on the animations that were finished for Li-Kun's version with the RE4 outfit, but I have no idea whatever happened to those.
Okay, if you do this, while it isn't a requirement from you at all, please, PLEASE consider spriting new normals and specials for him that aren't straight up obviously Kyo Kusanagi-based pose wise. I get that they have similar hair styles but it's *insanely* distracting to see him perform what is essentially his moves with a cop outfit.
Also be warned those sprites have alot of weird palette issues.
Post by: Slayer. on June 09, 2020, 12:14:09 pm
Post by: Steel Komodo on June 09, 2020, 12:19:22 pm
- There was a regular Mario in CvTW style made by Steel Komodo. Maybe still worth including?!
-Ah yes, I remember this, I'll check it out, but if I remember the sprites still just didn't quite fit.
If you’re going to use my Mario, I’d recommend that he gets a lot of updates to make him fit into the game better. I don’t think he’s very balanced, damage-wise, his move set is all over the place and also his UT and LVL 3 kind of suck. I’d go and fix him up myself, if you were interested.
Then again, that Bob Hoskins Mario looks a damn sight more creative than mine anyway. So if you decide not to use him, I won’t be too surprised :P
Post by: AMultiverseAuthor on June 09, 2020, 12:33:53 pm
From what I remember, the former had his sprites done, but then you went on hiatus while making Batman.
Those Axel sprites didn't go to waste though, thanks to Nexus Games and Testament using them for their creations.
Post by: Mitchell.Cezar on June 09, 2020, 01:10:11 pm
Post by: Magma MK-II on June 09, 2020, 10:18:43 pm
On another note I initially twisted my nose when you mentioned Mario, until I saw the video and those fantastic sprites.
Post by: Alexzon22 on June 09, 2020, 10:55:06 pm
Post by: SkySplitters on June 09, 2020, 11:28:08 pm
Awesome to see the series back, and great to see the sprites made by Pin is being used proparly.
Post by: Sean Altly on June 09, 2020, 11:44:41 pm
Gotta be honest with you, and no offense, but all of those sprite sets have some incredibly jerky animations that I just can't abide.
@Gladiacloud
Yes they were suggested earlier and I checked them out and they are fantastic. I hope it's okay if I use them, I've already started added them to CVtW Arthur's .sff :D
@dakidbanks
The TMNT sprites still don't fit in really, the shading is still very Tournament Fighters. I don't hate the Eric Draven sprites but not sure I need another gun person, and I'm not a fan of the other two (I just can't imagine Michael Myers as someone who kicks people, but then again I was never a big Halloween fan so for all I know he's kicked some people in the movies).
@Lui
I think I've already abandoned the Leon sprites for Wesker, I can easily add some anti-aliasing on some of the rougher edges of the Vox sprites and make a few new frames/animations where needed. His UMVC3 moveset is extremely easy to adapt.
@Rurouni
Yeah I've seen the KOF0style sprites for that one, and I think I discussed way back when if there was a way to get Dampir to do his thing to those sprites (I considered commissioning them if he was open to it) but it never went anywhere.
@Steel Komodo
Yeah for CvTW I always either recode or make heavy edits to the code to rebalance and get the characters uniform. And thanks for the kind words but he was really all Jango's idea!
@RPGGamerWriter
Fulgore was being sprited by someone else, I was only going to include him under that condition because I had no interest in making the sprites myself. And I never finished the Axel sprites, I think he needed one or two more normals, specials, and win poses/taunts, but I'd have to go back and check again.
@Mitchel_MM
Thanks!
@Magma MK-II
Well when I first worked on this Det. Laurel was fairly popular and also, as long as it's me making the game I'm gonna throw in an OC or two (no disrespect meant by that, I just mean I gotta have my fun somewhere). I only added Snow, Sabotage and Adamas because me and roommates at the time (Sabotage and Adamas were the characters based on them) wanted to have ourselves in just for fun, so I adapted them fairly easily to the game and I ended up sharing them as "bonus" characters. That's why they're below Laurel on the select screen, not officially part of the roster.
@Alexzon22
Oh yeah, the Wesker stuff is getting uses. Thanks!
@The Street Fighter
Only if the sprites match, I'll have to look them up to check it out.
Post by: dakidbanks on June 10, 2020, 12:51:46 am
And I agree with Alexzon, the Zox sprites of Wesker are definitely the best.
In regards to suggestions of characters who have full sprite sets, aside from aesthetically matching the rest of the characters’ sprites, what other characteristics would intrigue you? Do you want more random games, comics, movies or original characters to round out The World side? I didn’t even think about those GTA characters until @The Street Fighter mentioned it. I think 3 exist by that author and they’re all pretty much sprite swaps.
Post by: Nemuresu on June 10, 2020, 01:35:33 am
As for those GTA characters brought up, I'm not sure about that sprite swap part, but there's only four: CJ, Claude Speed, Niko Bellic and Toni Cipriani. I suppose CJ and Niko may be worth looking into, but part of me thinks the sprites may be too rough on some parts.
Post by: opalander on June 10, 2020, 01:58:19 am
I also gotta check out that PSych show you're on about so I can get a feel for that planned character like I do for everyone added to CvTW.
Post by: AVPboy on June 10, 2020, 05:13:37 am
Post by: Sean Altly on June 10, 2020, 06:00:40 am
Thanks for this, my best friend is a big One Piece fan and now that he knows these sprites exist he really wants Luffy in, so that's happening!
@AVPBoy
No plan to add Batman, still a lot of sprites to do and I may or may not finish them, priority is the characters listed so far.
Post by: The Sudden Rarity on June 10, 2020, 06:11:17 am
As for character suggestions? I honestly cant think of any right now.
Post by: GreenZed on June 10, 2020, 06:20:03 am
Anyway, I forgot to mention in my previous post, that there are sprites for Batsu now available. I would recommend to grab .sff from R@CE version of the character, since it has updated stance, walking and blocking animations from Daeron himself.
BTW, the latest version of CvTW could use a reupload, since it misses the latest version of K', Snow and Sabotage.
Post by: Lunchbillion on June 10, 2020, 12:24:33 pm
Post by: Steel Komodo on June 10, 2020, 12:25:08 pm
CAPCOM
- Rainbow Mika: Mostly for female representation. You could do the same thing for her sprites that you did with Charlie and touch them up to make them match. Also, if there’s any sprites for Nadeshiko, you could use her assist as the UT, or Mika’s mic bit from SFV
- Captain Commando: Mostly just for the variety and to avoid a glut of SF characters.
- Kamen Rider #1: I don’t know how familiar you are with Kamen Rider overall, but I’ve wanted to see a decent Rider character in MUGEN for a while. You could save a bit of time and make him an edit of Skullomania’s sprites, as Skullo himself was based on Kamen Rider.
...and that’s all I got. Sorry :P
Post by: Good_Wall533 on June 10, 2020, 02:14:22 pm
Post by: opalander on June 10, 2020, 04:38:32 pm
For Capcom:
-Phoenix Wright. Of course if you're gonna add Shawn Spencer, why not Phoenix as his "rival" of sorts.
-Frank West
-Captain Commando
For The World:
-A Megami Tensei character, I'm not sure if you're familiar with that series or if there's any CvS sprites of them in Mugen, but I think it would be interesting.
-Apollo (Shades of Manhattan) he's goofy and I like him.
-Any slasher character, Michael Myers, Jason Voorhees or anyone, some horror reps would just be good.
Thanks for reading!
Post by: Dark Waifu on June 10, 2020, 04:50:51 pm
- Kamen Rider #1: I don’t know how familiar you are with Kamen Rider overall, but I’ve wanted to see a decent Rider character in MUGEN for a while. You could save a bit of time and make him an edit of Skullomania’s sprites, as Skullo himself was based on Kamen Rider.
For Kamen Rider 1, there is a version with decent looking sprites by BlackCat
(https://i.imgur.com/EU2YFxJ.png)
Post by: Insert Account Name on June 10, 2020, 06:02:39 pm
My suggestions of the characters.
Capcom:
Phoenix Wright:
The first lawer in a fighting game.
Viewtiful Joe:
The action movie hero.
The World:
Joseph Joestar:
The hero from JoJo part 2.
The Mask:
The Big Head of destruction.
Post by: AMultiverseAuthor on June 10, 2020, 06:15:39 pm
From Capcom: Asura, Linn Kurosawa (From AVP), Maximo (Ghost n Goblins)
The World: Bayonetta, Kazuma Kiryu, Tyris Flare, Batman (Unless you want to finish his spriteset)
Post by: XANDERAC on June 10, 2020, 06:31:51 pm
As far as characters with completed sprite sets that I would love to see, Viewtiful Joe (by Nexus Games, Shin Mako, Gatorison & Kenshiro99
), I'm sure they need a bit of polish but there was also Edward Falcon from Power Stone that someone sprited, Magma Dragoon/Vile from MMX, and Fiona Belli. Either way I wish you all the best of luck with all of this and I look forward to seeing the finished game hopefully :D
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 10, 2020, 06:57:41 pm
@Macaulyn97I can see that on Link and Ivy, but Orchid and Batman? Specially Orchid, those sprites are the one thing good about Ahrimanes' version.
Gotta be honest with you, and no offense, but all of those sprite sets have some incredibly jerky animations that I just can't abide.
Post by: AMultiverseAuthor on June 10, 2020, 07:09:35 pm
@Macaulyn97I can see that on Link and Ivy, but Orchid and Batman? Specially Orchid, those sprites are the one thing good about Ahrimanes' version.
Gotta be honest with you, and no offense, but all of those sprite sets have some incredibly jerky animations that I just can't abide.
I do agree with Sean on the Soulcalibur sprites. With the exception of Dampir's Taki sprites, the majority of them have stiff animation too. Nexus Games and Chuchoryu's SC characters are plagued with those.
Post by: Steel Komodo on June 10, 2020, 07:10:09 pm
For Kamen Rider 1, there is a version with decent looking sprites by BlackCat
(https://i.imgur.com/EU2YFxJ.png)
The problem there is that those sprites are very specifically SNK styled. You'd need to do some major edits to make them fit in with the CvS/CPS2 style this game's got going on.
Joseph Joestar:Damn, I forgot about that one. That'd be cool to see. Put all of his Stand stuff from Heritage For the Future on the UT and you'd have it right there.
The hero from JoJo part 2.
Post by: dakidbanks on June 11, 2020, 11:20:34 am
So I see this project has come back to life. Even Mario Mario is still around, that's great.
My suggestions of the characters.
Capcom:
Phoenix Wright:
The first lawer in a fighting game.
Viewtiful Joe:
The action movie hero.
The World:
Joseph Joestar:
The hero from JoJo part 2.
The Mask:
The Big Head of destruction.
The Mask has 2 sprite sets to choose from as well
@Macaulyn97I can see that on Link and Ivy, but Orchid and Batman? Specially Orchid, those sprites are the one thing good about Ahrimanes' version.
Gotta be honest with you, and no offense, but all of those sprite sets have some incredibly jerky animations that I just can't abide.
My Mugen eye is bad. I can’t really tell what’s specifically the sprite style aside from obviously not SNK, hi res, etc. I thought those Batman sprites were good as well + the original CvTW has Superman.... but I think he was spriting his own Batman years ago
I almost suggested Hellboy or Spawn
Post by: NootNoot64 on June 11, 2020, 01:13:27 pm
Capcom:
Captain Commando (Captain Commando)
The World (Boy, i have alot of suggestions for this side):
Ben Tennyson (Ben 10)
Ruby Rose (RWBY)
Ragna (Blazblue)
Yu Narukami (Persona 4)
Hyde Kido (Under The Night Birth)
Naruto (Naruto)
Ichigo (Bleach)
Jotaro Kujo (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)
Izuku Midoriya (Boku no Hero Academia)
Ryuko Matoi (Kill la Kill)
Kazuma (Konosuba)
If you wanna get a little bit crazy on the picks:
Spongebob (Spongebob Squarepants)
AVGN (Angry Video Game Nerd)
Thoughts?
Post by: Sean Altly on June 11, 2020, 04:26:44 pm
I'm not looking to make full sprites sets for anyone since I'm working on Shawn Spencer. Thanks though!
Post by: Yagoshi300 on June 11, 2020, 04:38:31 pm
Capcom:
Sakura Kasugano (Street Fighter Series)
Zero (Megaman X)
Sasquatch (Darkstalkers)
Jedah (Darkstalkers)
Yang (Street Fighter 3)
Ingrid (Capcom Fighting Evolution)
ZA WARUDO... i mean The World:
Kyoko(Kunio-Kun Series)(Note: Use the design from River City Girls)
John Cena
Juspion
Billy the Blue Ranger(Mighty Morphin Power Rangers)
Steven Universe(Steven Universe)(Note: Use his design from Steven Universe Future)
Cyclops(X-Men)
Dio Brando(JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)
Monica(Monica and Friends)
Pegasus Seiya (Saint Seiya)
Orange Inkling Girl (Splatoon) (Make sure you can make the Blue Inkling Boy as an Alt just like in SSB Ultimate)
Richter Belmont (Castlevania)
Rash (Battletoads)
Isabelle (Animal Crossing)
Post by: lui on June 11, 2020, 04:42:51 pm
Kyoko(Kunio-Kun Series)(Note: Use the design from River City Girls)
John Cena
Juspion
Billy the Blue Ranger(Mighty Morphin Power Rangers)
Steven Universe(Steven Universe)(Note: Use his design from Steven Universe Future)
Monica(Monica and Friends)
Pegasus Seiya (Saint Seiya)
Orange Inkling Girl (Splatoon) (Make sure you can make the Blue Inkling Boy as an Alt just like in SSB Ultimate)
Richter Belmont (Castlevania)
Rash (Battletoads)
Isabelle (Animal Crossing)
He literally just said he's not looking to sprite new characters, just using to use sprites from existing characters that fit in with the game in a post right before yours, c'mon man.
Post by: Magma MK-II on June 11, 2020, 04:53:35 pm
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 11, 2020, 05:01:49 pm
Orange Inkling Girl (Splatoon) (Make sure you can make the Blue Inkling Boy as an Alt just like in SSB Ultimate)
On top of that do you know how gethits work? That wouldn't work at all due to Mugen limitations. Your post is extremely pipe-dreamy because it's suggesting he do full spritesets for characters not in his normal style and what would be a ton of work.
Post by: YugaCurry on June 11, 2020, 05:05:24 pm
Post by: Sean Altly on June 11, 2020, 07:03:30 pm
Gotta read the first post my guy, Jedah and Billy are already part of the plan
@Magma MK-II
Kula would be great and I know Dampir made a sprites conversion for her so I'll keep her in mind. I know nothing about JoJo but is that version of Joseph the one in the Capcom game? Those sprites would stick out a little but could still be doable I think, lot of interest in JoJo's stuff so I'll keep it in mind as well.
Gonna post some more progress this weekend, and I'll mail down who will be in the update by then (six on each side, maybe seven depending on workload). Thanks again everyone, I'm glad so many people are enthusiastic about the project again.
Post by: ,mem on June 11, 2020, 07:08:24 pm
Post by: GreenZed on June 11, 2020, 08:34:50 pm
Post by: AVPboy on June 12, 2020, 12:04:35 am
Oh well, such a pity... even so, your game's return is enough for me to be happy, your list is great and i am genuinely excited. Go for it sean, i am not that good with hi-res stages, but, if i can help you, just like how i did with some of your stuff in SHADES 3, just let me know.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 12, 2020, 06:04:42 am
Post by: XANDERAC on June 12, 2020, 07:54:14 am
Post by: DW on June 13, 2020, 04:11:25 pm
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I see you said you were interested in Pure & Fur. I could look her over and depending on how many sprites she has, I could possibly CS her for ya.
Do you have anyone in from DC? I saw Batman by Alucard was suggested. I had thought those sprites were mostly well animated. The pal table may be a complete mess though... :-\ I can think of two others though that you may be interested in adding:
Poison Ivy by Harbinger and Zvitor: Her sprites are amazing and she animates very well. I honestly feel she would be the best candidate for a DC char where you wouldn't have to do any spriting for her. I was also laying out the ground work for a CS for her. She doesn't have very many options, so it'd be pretty easy.
(https://i.imgur.com/wXvRlG8.png)
Catwoman by Ninja Brl, Mistah Jorge and volzzilla: I found this char by complete accident. As I myself were looking for some well made DC chars I could possibly work with. Then I found her. The sprites overall are nicely done and animate good. A few animations could be touched up here and there. As I was looking over the SFF, I can see that some of the animations still hold the base look from Zvitor's Catwoman. Like her jump fwd/back anims. She's CPS2-Ish in style. Was looking over what a CS would do for her. Luckily, unlike most of those custom comic book chars, her pal table is fine, just unorganized. There's not a bunch of unknown, wacky colors everywhere that don't even apply to her. I'll see about making a mock up for a CS later.
(https://i.imgur.com/CyvH0ja.png)
I'll ponder on some more stuff later.
Post by: AVPboy on June 13, 2020, 07:46:53 pm
It's great to see that you want to update this. Using Gladia's chars would be a great addition. I CS'd Michelle Heart and can let you get that if you want.Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I see you said you were interested in Pure & Fur. I could look her over and depending on how many sprites she has, I could possibly CS her for ya.
Do you have anyone in from DC? I saw Batman by Alucard was suggested. I had thought those sprites were mostly well animated. The pal table may be a complete mess though... :-\ I can think of two others though that you may be interested in adding:
Poison Ivy by Harbinger and Zvitor: Her sprites are amazing and she animates very well. I honestly feel she would be the best candidate for a DC char where you wouldn't have to do any spriting for her. I was also laying out the ground work for a CS for her. She doesn't have very many options, so it'd be pretty easy.
(https://i.imgur.com/wXvRlG8.png)
Catwoman by Ninja Brl, Mistah Jorge and volzzilla: I found this char by complete accident. As I myself were looking for some well made DC chars I could possibly work with. Then I found her. The sprites overall are nicely done and animate good. A few animations could be touched up here and there. As I was looking over the SFF, I can see that some of the animations still hold the base look from Zvitor's Catwoman. Like her jump fwd/back anims. She's CPS2-Ish in style. Was looking over what a CS would do for her. Luckily, unlike most of those custom comic book chars, her pal table is fine, just unorganized. There's not a bunch of unknown, wacky colors everywhere that don't even apply to her. I'll see about making a mock up for a CS later.
(https://i.imgur.com/CyvH0ja.png)
I'll ponder on some more stuff later.
That would actually be great, it only slightly bugs me to suggest Catwoman or Poison Ivy without Batman though, even so... that sounds really good for sure.
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 13, 2020, 09:41:40 pm
Post by: sabockee on June 13, 2020, 10:17:43 pm
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Post by: Lurker on June 13, 2020, 10:32:44 pm
CatwomanOh my, couldn't those be bigger? lol
If we are speaking about DC how about Wonder Woman by Loganir? As far as I remember she have good sprites.
For the others:
I love K', but I don't think that he would be the only one to represent SNK in a game. I mean, Terry, Mai, Kyo or Iori make more sense, so one of them as dlc would be nice.
Maybe someone from Melty Blood is a good pick too, I would choose beetween Sion, Arcueid, Akiha, Aoko and Shiki Tohno.
Post by: PeXXeR on June 13, 2020, 11:14:54 pm
Would love to see Ivy.
(https://i.imgur.com/wXvRlG8.png)
Post by: AVPboy on June 13, 2020, 11:29:18 pm
In all fairness, Catwoman did have her own comic line
And cleveland had his own show... i'm just saying. Anyway, The Crow is a great suggestion as well, there's a complete sprite sheet dedicated to him and he does fit to your style Sean.
Post by: GreenZed on June 14, 2020, 07:10:53 pm
For the others:
I love K', but I don't think that he would be the only one to represent SNK in a game. I mean, Terry, Mai, Kyo or Iori make more sense, so one of them as dlc would be nice.
Maybe someone from Melty Blood is a good pick too, I would choose beetween Sion, Arcueid, Akiha, Aoko and Shiki Tohno.
As much as I'd love Iori in CvTW, I think a rep from SamSho or Last Balde would be a better option. As for the Melty Blood characters, they probably won't fit the games art style: too many frames of animation
Anyway, I replayed the game recently (August 2013 build with K' and SHADES patches) and it appears that Strider is missing AI and a few winquotes against certain characters.
I would also suggest moving Snake from Jungle stage to Arctica, so his grenades will be visible on the ground. It's also more fitting, considering that this is MGS1 Snake.
Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on June 14, 2020, 10:14:18 pm
Post by: AVPboy on June 14, 2020, 10:47:53 pm
I'll agree with what another poster mentioned. Wonder Woman by Loganir, another needed female character. Hell, I'd add Thor by Loganir as well.
Loganir's Wonder Woman would be nuts and pretty good, since we already have Superman on the roster, i would personally like her and maybe another lady too, like Maki from Final Fight, for example.
Post by: Slayer. on June 14, 2020, 10:57:49 pm
@RurouniOh, did it almost happen? It is a pity.
Yeah I've seen the KOF0style sprites for that one, and I think I discussed way back when if there was a way to get Dampir to do his thing to those sprites (I considered commissioning them if he was open to it) but it never went anywhere.
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...Both Ichigo e Ryuko have cvs-ish sprite sets, although Ryuko would demand way more work. Ichigo would be nice, but I don't if he has enough sprites.
Ichigo (Bleach)
...
Ryuko Matoi (Kill la Kill)
Oh. Lucia from Final Fight 3 would be cool.
(https://i.imgur.com/FeJyKwx.png)
She also has a cvs-ish sprite set, but unfortunately there are not enough sprites and the current ones would require work as well. :')
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 14, 2020, 11:38:57 pm
Post by: Slayer. on June 15, 2020, 12:09:05 am
Poison wouldn't be bad but Lucia would be something fresh. Being realistic, Lucia is unlikely. You know, just dreaming.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 15, 2020, 04:14:37 am
Post by: AVPboy on June 15, 2020, 04:32:07 am
This Lucia is very bad.
I'm afraid, i have to agree, she could only work as a template for a much more polished sprite sheet, plus, she is still missing plenty of frames, as a Lucia fan, she deserves better bruh.
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 15, 2020, 05:40:30 am
Post by: Sean Altly on June 15, 2020, 07:29:09 am
I like that Poison Ivy, I downloaded her and scaled her a bit to fit the style of the game and it looks good. The inconsistent art style of her plant attacks is off-putting to me but that may be something I could get over. Those giant Catwoman tiddies though I don't know about
@sabockee
Lynn Baker is already in the game repping RotD, but someone from Power Instinct could work, I'll keep it in mind.
@Lurker
I went with K' because Kyo and Iori seemed too obvious to me and K' was still a character who felt like the face of several KoF games so it made sense. Terry was originally planned and someone made a very good CvTW King (and I've always had a soft spot for King because I love her design and personality). Terry will probably end up in here at some point, he's in fucking everything now so why not? I know nothing about Melty Blood tbh. Wonder Woman is a good choice too when the sprites are scaled. I'll look into it.
@AVPBoy
Yeah the Crow sprites were posted earlier but I think they would still need some work, plus his animations look like he'd be another gun guy, which I think is already pretty well covered by Jill, Snake and Det. Laurel.
@GreenZed
I did find some old plans for the game on my computer earlier where I had Kaede from TLB on the roster. Last Blade sprites are so nice and fit in well. I'll note that about Snake, I forgot that was his arcade stage, the arctic one does fit better. I think when I picked the jungle for him I was thinking Snake Eater.
@Rurouni
Yeah those sprites are not great, I would prob just add Maki if I did something like that. Also, don't tease me with the Leon sprite XD. A full conversion of those sprites would be awesome.
@PBRTODD101
I'll prob just end up with a generic intro/ending for arcade mode like MVC2. Creating endings for SHADEs 3 was almost as arduous a process as the sprites for the new characters was. Can't imagine doing it for like 50 characters
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FINAL DECISION (FOR NOW)
So after doing some research and looking into all these suggestions, the first big update will be:
Capcom
Joe (SF1)
M. Bison (SF2)
Fiona Belli (Haunting Ground)
Jedah (Darkstalkers 3)
Wesker (Resident Evil)
Pure & Fur (Adventure Quiz: Capcom World 2)
The World
Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
Mario Mario (Super Mario Bros.)
Shawn Spencer (Psych)
Billy the Blue Ranger (Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers)
Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
Jotaro Kujo (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)
Back with some progress updates tomorrow, off to bed
Post by: YugaCurry on June 15, 2020, 08:05:42 am
So no Spidey? Thought you wanted him in. Anyway I had sent you the character in PM last week, just in case you plan to add him in.
Post by: Long John Killer on June 15, 2020, 08:17:58 am
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 15, 2020, 09:33:42 am
EDIT: By the way, Sean, have you considered the possibility of a Pokemon?
Post by: Nemuresu on June 15, 2020, 09:47:16 am
Post by: Insert Account Name on June 15, 2020, 09:54:14 am
As a JoJo fan like myself, I'm sold on this.
Post by: GreenZed on June 15, 2020, 01:04:45 pm
Yes, Jotaro is gonna be in.
As a JoJo fan like myself, I'm sold on this.
I second this very much. Can't wait to see your take on Jotaro! Best of luck!
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 15, 2020, 02:21:39 pm
EDIT: By the way, Sean, have you considered the possibility of a Pokemon?
He'd more or less have to make the sprites from scratch.
Post by: Slayer. on June 15, 2020, 05:35:34 pm
This Lucia is very bad.I just pointed her out as a base. I never believed she would make it. I just let myself go.
It's funny that as unlikely as she was, she would still be more reasonable than a few suggestions given.
Quote
Yeah those sprites are not great, I would prob just add Maki if I did something like that. Also, don't tease me with the Leon sprite XD. A full conversion of those sprites would be awesome.I see. Well, don't worry about Leon... He's not real.
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Okay, let's get back to reality. About Goku and Luffy, will you edit them at something level, or just resize them via code?
Post by: Insert Account Name on June 15, 2020, 06:37:21 pm
QuoteYeah those sprites are not great, I would prob just add Maki if I did something like that. Also, don't tease me with the Leon sprite XD. A full conversion of those sprites would be awesome.I see. Well, don't worry about Leon... He's not real.
Real? Unlike mine: (https://i.imgur.com/hNab1Up.gif) :yaoming:
Post by: Sean Altly on June 15, 2020, 07:51:02 pm
Can anyone link me to or provide a comprehensive list of all the characters that Dampir has made CVS sprite conversions for? I know I already said these 12 were final but I just found out he did Heavy D (who I think is awesome) and it made me realize there might be a bunch more I didn't know about.
Post by: Dark Waifu on June 15, 2020, 07:55:41 pm
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 15, 2020, 08:22:01 pm
Post by: Sean Altly on June 15, 2020, 08:29:02 pm
Considering the Dragon Ball and One Piece 3DS games are directly compatible with each other, the safest bet would be the same values as Goku
Yeah that's the first thing I tried and it doesn't look as good on Luffy
(https://i.imgur.com/gpvcPfM.png)
Maybe I'm over analyzing it, if you guys tell me it looks fine I will legit take your word for it
@PBRTODD101
Maybe, it really just depends on motivation honestly
Post by: hatter on June 15, 2020, 08:41:11 pm
Yeah that's the first thing I tried and it doesn't look as good on Luffy
(https://i.imgur.com/gpvcPfM.png)
Maybe I'm over analyzing it, if you guys tell me it looks fine I will legit take your word for it
It's passable, it's not entirely great but it works. Or at least, that's what I think.
If anything, it's just his face in his idle frame that's getting me, the other animations might look better with the resize.
Post by: GreenZed on June 15, 2020, 08:55:01 pm
Post by: lui on June 15, 2020, 09:22:45 pm
Considering the Dragon Ball and One Piece 3DS games are directly compatible with each other, the safest bet would be the same values as Goku
Yeah that's the first thing I tried and it doesn't look as good on Luffy
(https://i.imgur.com/gpvcPfM.png)
Maybe I'm over analyzing it, if you guys tell me it looks fine I will legit take your word for it
@PBRTODD101
Maybe, it really just depends on motivation honestly
One Piece Grand Battle Colesium sprites are actually drawn in a higher res than the Dragon Ball Extreme Butoden ones, probably due to the art style? Whatever case, you'll have to play around with Luffy's a bit more than Goku's
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 15, 2020, 09:43:03 pm
I didn't say that.QuoteYeah those sprites are not great, I would prob just add Maki if I did something like that. Also, don't tease me with the Leon sprite XD. A full conversion of those sprites would be awesome.I see. Well, don't worry about Leon... He's not real.
Real? Unlike mine: (https://i.imgur.com/hNab1Up.gif) :yaoming:
I think Luffy looks good, but he looks a little too big, it seems like he should be shorter.Considering the Dragon Ball and One Piece 3DS games are directly compatible with each other, the safest bet would be the same values as Goku
Yeah that's the first thing I tried and it doesn't look as good on Luffy
(https://i.imgur.com/gpvcPfM.png)
Maybe I'm over analyzing it, if you guys tell me it looks fine I will legit take your word for it
@PBRTODD101
Maybe, it really just depends on motivation honestly
Post by: XANDERAC on June 15, 2020, 10:18:50 pm
Post by: opalander on June 17, 2020, 03:02:36 am
Post by: opalander on June 17, 2020, 03:03:31 am
Post by: Sean Altly on June 17, 2020, 04:03:42 am
So I've been watching a lot of videos of gameplay and stuff but I can't figure something out, can anyone familiar with Haunting Ground confirm for me if when Fiona uses Antimony Powder as a weapon, is she throwing the powder itself or a little orb with the powder in it? I can't tell because the item in her inventory looks like a little orb with the powder in it, but I'm not sure if that's just the container for it or if she throws the whole thing orb and all.
Post by: Good_Wall533 on June 17, 2020, 04:14:49 am
I've considered putting him in as a gag but the sprite difference bugs me.
So I've been watching a lot of videos of gameplay and stuff but I can't figure something out, can anyone familiar with Haunting Ground confirm for me if when Fiona uses Antimony Powder as a weapon, is she throwing the powder itself or a little orb with the powder in it? I can't tell because the item in her inventory looks like a little orb with the powder in it, but I'm not sure if that's just the container for it or if she throws the whole thing orb and all.
She just throws a little orb with the powder in it.
Post by: Sean Altly on June 17, 2020, 04:16:04 am
Post by: GreenZed on June 17, 2020, 05:04:53 am
(https://i.imgur.com/ikm8QWZ.gif)
Post by: Toxic Masculinity on June 17, 2020, 05:19:52 am
Kind of surprised he hasn't been mentioned yet. He was made in CvS style, and he's an awesome character with an awesome move set. You may need permission first, but it'd be worth asking for.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 17, 2020, 05:34:20 am
I've considered putting him in as a gag but the sprite difference bugs me.I think you should consider this, though: Kung-Fu Man's whole point is that he is so simplistic it hurts, and that comes from his sprites as well, he is a very basic character in concept, moveset, name, art style and even story. Making him with any other sprites would be the weird thing, so adding him as he is would still fit enough.
I'm late to the suggestions party, but I think a really good choice for the "World" side would be: Bluestreak by Diepod & JesuszillaIs he from a game? I thought he was an OC, which, for me, means he shouldn't really go in (I know Sean added his own OCs, but I don't think those should be in either, though since its his game, its none of my business complaining about this).
Kind of surprised he hasn't been mentioned yet. He was made in CvS style, and he's an awesome character with an awesome move set. You may need permission first, but it'd be worth asking for.
Post by: Sean Altly on June 17, 2020, 05:57:42 am
Kung Fu Man as a gag character ala Cactuar would be funny and probably incredibly easy to code, so I may throw him in.
Also, you guys are free to not play as the SHADEs characters in the game, it's just for fun and nothing to take too seriously. "The World" covers basically whatever I want it to, and OC's are fair game, although they are from a game series: SHADEs of Manhattan. I put hundreds of hours of work into those three games, they have lore and endings and all that, so...
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 17, 2020, 06:42:45 am
Post by: SlenderMan on June 17, 2020, 07:17:23 am
Post by: opalander on June 18, 2020, 12:14:33 am
Post by: GreenZed on June 18, 2020, 03:50:55 am
Post by: Sean Altly on June 18, 2020, 05:15:36 am
to note I still have Akuma I never finished so I may have to finish him up now. lol
If you want to, I can add him ass a side character like Cactuar and the SHADEs bros, I know people loves them some Akuma
Since you didn't mention Guy, is he going to be in the next update? If you need someone on the World side to balance the roster, I would suggest you still go with Bloodtide, since I'm guessing she wouldn't require that much coding to be done and the World side desperatley needs a female rep.
Yeah like I said Guy is in the build I've been updating as one of those off to the side characters, so he'll def be in the next release, maybe just not a main roster dude. Also I feel you about the female reps, I just wish there were more sprites out there besides the SNK characters. Maybe I should add Mai instead of Terry down the line, Mai is just as iconic to the Fatal Fury series and would mix things up. If I had all the time in the world I would make sprites for Lara Croft, I've always thought she would be a cool Mugen character (with a mixture of guns and like spike traps and swinging log traps and shit, sort of like Rocket Raccoon in UMVC3).
Also I forgot to respond to the Alex run sprites, I've seen those before and there's just always been something off about the proportions to me, like he's a little too puffy and it irks me. May still use them but I think Alex works as one of the few characters with a dash instead of a run.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 18, 2020, 06:37:43 am
(https://i.imgur.com/BgMYcTu.gif)
Also, Touhou could have some representation here too. Hoe2's Marisa has some cool sprites, but I think it would need better palettes to fit CvtW:
(https://i.imgur.com/TKEv7oR.gif)
Bosouvy's Meiling seems pretty cool as well:
(https://i.imgur.com/H4g5BLn.gif)
Also, give it another look on Ahrimanes' Orchid, she is really not that bad:
(https://i.imgur.com/VOC2REz.gif)
If you want some girls for Capcom side, there are always Poison, Tessa, Felicia...
Post by: ShiroTori on June 18, 2020, 06:58:08 am
(https://network.mugenguild.com/guild/stances/rpg_arena2.gif)
https://onedrive.live.com/?id=343ADE6B805FFBBD%21138&cid=343ADE6B805FFBBD
And since I haven't actually posted here yet, I'm very excited to see you continuing this game! I'm also pretty stoked to see Shawn Spencer being made for it, Psych is such a great show.
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 18, 2020, 09:32:38 am
Post by: RagingRowen on June 18, 2020, 12:46:55 pm
If you want to, I can add him ass a side character like Cactuar and the SHADEs bros, I know people loves them some Akuma
Can he not be a boss char of sorts? I know you had Final Bosses planned unless they're to be more gimmicky.
Post by: GreenZed on June 18, 2020, 06:07:59 pm
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Post by: Sean Altly on June 18, 2020, 06:52:21 pm
I vaguely remember Clara and liking her design, and I will def check out Orchid again later today.
Post by: ,mem on June 18, 2020, 07:49:27 pm
Post by: RagingRowen on June 18, 2020, 07:53:51 pm
My original plans for the final boss were a bit...lofty, even for me, so at one point I changed it to be Asura, the character that was supposed to be Rugal and Akuma fused (I honestly can't remember who the author/sprites was who created him, my bad). Not sure what I'll end up with here, I'm more focused on updating the main roster.
It'd be weird without the aforementioned Rugal and Akuma as individual chars though.
Post by: Janis L.C.V. on June 18, 2020, 08:40:07 pm
Post by: walt on June 18, 2020, 08:48:28 pm
!!
Post by: Sean Altly on June 18, 2020, 10:28:40 pm
Nah, it could be like they were fused accidentally when they were teleported to the planet the game happens on, which would explain why they aren't individual characters
@Janis and @Walt
Both good ideas
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I don't suppose anyone ever did an edit or color separation of Spiderman's sprites that looked like Miles Morales' suit, did they? Just wondering.
Post by: ,mem on June 18, 2020, 10:49:49 pm
Thus being another way that he could exist here without needing a Rugal and Akuma in the roster to fuse.
Post by: Croix12 on June 19, 2020, 08:01:22 am
Post by: XANDERAC on June 20, 2020, 07:16:12 am
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 20, 2020, 07:49:24 am
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on June 21, 2020, 12:06:50 am
Tails the Fox
Knuckles the Echidna
Amy Rose
Cream the Rabbit
Link (from The Legend of Zelda)
Donkey Kong
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Bugs Bunny
Akuma
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 21, 2020, 12:09:38 am
Some of you don't know how long it would take for him to sprite all of what you're requesting. :uhoh:
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on June 21, 2020, 01:38:46 am
I don't know how easy this would be to implement but what if the final boss is 1 character that's 2 characters and their UT is like a tag mechanic or an assist/team super which is unique to them, this would allow you to pick a Capcom boss like Bison/Pyron/Gill, and then someone for the world like Geese/Rugal, Dr. Doom, or various others. I assume this would be a issue due to colour separation and all that though primarily.
That would be pretty cool, though i think Sean might want to keep all the characters as single. rather than a tag team, since from what i hear, tag team/simul mode in Mugen is rather finicky.
That's very pipe dreamy. Most of those he'd need to sprite/resprite entirely to fit the game style.
Some of you don't know how long it would take for him to sprite all of what you're requesting.
Most of them, yeah. But Akuma is actually pretty feasible, Especially since he's got a pretty full sprite-sheet from CVS (among other games) & shares alot of moves with Ryu & Ken, who are already in CVTW, & Sean could use those characters & their code as a base for him.
Of course, that'll depend on if Sean himself would want to add Akuma or not.
Post by: opalander on June 21, 2020, 09:23:54 pm
I do have my ideas though; if you played the arcade as a Capcom rep, you'd fight a boss that represents The World. Whether it's some popular super villain like Thanos, a Shades character like Moses, or something completely original I haven't thought about. If you played as a character from The World, you'd fight a boss that represents Capcom, whether that's Akuma, a beefed up Mr. X, or anyone is, in the end, up to Seanaltly.
I just felt I should throw my 2-cents on that topic.
Post by: Sean Altly on June 22, 2020, 03:05:57 am
The different boss thing is how I would want it ideally but not doable in Mugen outside of a two-in-one character that is beyond my coding capabilities. That's why I liked Asura, or maybe an OC of some kind.
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 22, 2020, 03:17:17 am
The original premise you had in mind for this game reminds me a lot of the Superhero and Supervillain Bowls from Toon Sandwich, where tv and movie characters were forced to fight to the death to entertain the masses. The big bad of that series turned out to be a gigantic Oscar statue. An effective, but incredibly simple design. I guess that series feels like Capcom vs The World with more “The World” than Capcom lol
Post by: RagingRowen on June 22, 2020, 03:22:09 am
Having Asura as final boss feels kind of off considering there are people on the base roster that overpower that fusion by quite a bit (Goku in particular. Even at base form he is still nothing to scoff at.). Asura could be a good mid boss or sub boss if you decide to use him.
Then maybe one could just make him seem stronger through auras or dramatic intro(s).
With the idea in mind you could just use the God Rugal ending scene as a flashback in the game's intro or w/e.
Post by: XANDERAC on June 22, 2020, 07:29:37 am
I don't know how easy this would be to implement but what if the final boss is 1 character that's 2 characters and their UT is like a tag mechanic or an assist/team super which is unique to them, this would allow you to pick a Capcom boss like Bison/Pyron/Gill, and then someone for the world like Geese/Rugal, Dr. Doom, or various others. I assume this would be a issue due to colour separation and all that though primarily.
Well I didn't mean like an actual tag team system being implemented, but just coding 2 characters to play as 1, I've seen it done with some older characters like Ryu&Ken by M, or Ky and Sol by qwerty (https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/ky-and-sol-alpha-version-qwerty-released-75052.0.html (https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/ky-and-sol-alpha-version-qwerty-released-75052.0.html))
Technically 2 character, but coded as 1 single character if you get what I mean
Post by: Roasted Pheasant on June 23, 2020, 12:40:15 am
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 23, 2020, 12:48:06 am
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 23, 2020, 03:36:04 am
Well I didn't mean like an actual tag team system being implemented, but just coding 2 characters to play as 1, I've seen it done with some older characters like Ryu&Ken by M, or Ky and Sol by qwerty (https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/ky-and-sol-alpha-version-qwerty-released-75052.0.html (https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/ky-and-sol-alpha-version-qwerty-released-75052.0.html))So I did get it right, and its a bad idea. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of a tag-team character, but it makes no sense to remove the individuality from characters that are not known to fight in pairs, their names are too big to be forced to fight alongside somebody. If this type of gameplay was made, it could be for two characters known for fighting alongside each other, such as Juli & Juni from SFA3, as I suggested, otherwise, its a bad idea.
Technically 2 character, but coded as 1 single character if you get what I mean
If it's the Asura I'm thinking of, there's always Buckus'I don't really dig Asura's inclusion very much, he feels more like a CvS thing than a CvTW thing. I think the best idea would be to make a character specifically to be this game's boss. Sure it would take more work, but an original thing feels a lot better.
Post by: FeLo_Llop on June 23, 2020, 08:13:06 pm
I think the best idea would be to make a character specifically to be this game's boss. Sure it would take more work, but an original thing feels a lot better.
PANDORA. Just spriting above Ingrid(with other costume or even "nude"), making her float and her attacks consisting in pandora like palettes of other characters from both Universes.
Post by: AlexSin on June 23, 2020, 09:02:51 pm
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 23, 2020, 10:10:51 pm
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on June 24, 2020, 03:41:37 pm
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 24, 2020, 03:55:51 pm
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 24, 2020, 05:37:19 pm
Post by: dakidbanks on June 24, 2020, 08:44:42 pm
Ultimately I’d think the requests would probably stop by now. Seems like he’s already finalized his list of like 12. Thats a lot to code
Post by: AVPboy on June 25, 2020, 12:51:51 am
If you are interested on the idea itself, let me know to message you about it. Big Shout out to Wizzy, of course.
Post by: Sean Altly on June 25, 2020, 02:15:45 am
Just a quick update on the roster, I have decided to add in Bloodtide. I've been working on the 20-30 sprites that she needed to complete the new spriteset that Pin made for her. I've also taken the new design as an opportunity to change up some of her specials and gameplay. I'm going to post a video preview of her later. As far as what spot she takes, she will either be added along with Guy, or she may take Luffy's spot as I'm finding his sprites annoying to deal with so far.
Post by: Umezono on June 25, 2020, 03:50:36 am
Post by: Mr.Karate JKA on June 25, 2020, 04:20:30 am
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 25, 2020, 04:29:36 am
Post by: Sean Altly on June 25, 2020, 07:42:32 am
Post by: XANDERAC on June 25, 2020, 07:58:59 am
Post by: Mr.Karate JKA on June 25, 2020, 01:18:59 pm
The very first post in this thread says he is included. By the way, I love the idea of including AVPboy's boss character.
Sorry, my bad! Thank you!
Post by: Lurker on June 25, 2020, 04:02:20 pm
Post by: AVPboy on June 25, 2020, 04:42:42 pm
The very first post in this thread says he is included. By the way, I love the idea of including AVPboy's boss character.
Thanks for that mate, Saga's idea is pretty neat as well.
Here's Bloodtide's preview as promised:
[youtube]https://youtu.be/RwqR080KwIg[/youtube]
My goodness Sean, that new outfit and new stuff looks on fire. She just looks gameplay intended, Rock Solid.
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on June 25, 2020, 06:11:11 pm
Homer Simpson
Peter Griffin
Dr. Eggman
Princess Peach
Princess Daisy
Zavok
Red Ranger
Springman
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 25, 2020, 08:08:37 pm
My Character Suggestion 2:Jesus Christ can't you just stop? Sean was pretty clear when it came to the suggestions on this thread that they needed to have sprites that fit the game. You've been called out on this twice already, this isn't a random request thread.
Homer Simpson
Peter Griffin
Dr. Eggman
Princess Peach
Princess Daisy
Zavok
Red Ranger
Springman
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 25, 2020, 09:00:47 pm
Post by: AlexSin on June 25, 2020, 09:21:35 pm
My goodness Sean, that new outfit and new stuff looks on fire. She just looks gameplay intended, Rock Solid.
Pin remade those sprites like that.
Post by: AVPboy on June 26, 2020, 03:25:38 am
My Character Suggestion 2:
Homer Simpson
Peter Griffin
Dr. Eggman
Princess Peach
Princess Daisy
Zavok
Red Ranger
Springman
Dude, we understand your Hype, but the way you are suggesting the characters despise of what people is telling you is unnecesarily stubborn, you are literally provoking cringe, please be more comprehensive.
Post by: Sean Altly on June 26, 2020, 04:01:42 am
No swapping, the only OC of mine on the actual roster is Detective Laurel. The three other SHADEs guys are just bonus characters I did for fun.
@Lurker
I'll look into those for a future update, thanks!
@AVPBoy
Yeah Pin's sprites are so good, it was so awesome that someone went through the trouble of respriting one of my own OCs with a new design, legit one of the coolest things anyone has done. It's like fanart that probably took a hundred hours and now they've found a home in this game.
@ChaosLumpy6
lol
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Made some good progress on Fiona, may post a preview soon. Also, Wizzy just hit me up about making more themes for the game, I can't wait to hear what he does for Shawn Spencer.
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on June 26, 2020, 01:50:34 pm
Post by: GreenZed on June 26, 2020, 05:44:55 pm
Anyway, I hope Guy won't be sidelined into a secret character. If Ken didn't take secret spot when there's already Ryu in the game, then neither should Guy, even if there would be imbalance in Capcom to World character ratio.
Post by: AVPboy on June 27, 2020, 04:23:01 am
Oh man, I'm hyped! It's always nice to see more female characters!
Anyway, I hope Guy won't be sidelined into a secret character. If Ken didn't take secret spot when there's already Ryu in the game, then neither should Guy, even if there would be imbalance in Capcom to World character ratio.
To be honest, a character worthy of the term "secret" that actually fits perfectly to this game's style, would be either Diepod's / BluperVillian's & Jesuszilla's Bluestreak or Elecbyte's / DivineWolf's Kung Fu Man. Both would be great for the game's lore of "The World", even so, we still need a Secret Capcom character, since Cactuar already covers that spot for now.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 27, 2020, 05:10:31 am
- Palette-swap characters - You know, stuff like Evil Ryu/Kage, Shadow Lady, Violent Ken, Morrilith, kinda unfair to call them palette-swap, because the idea is that they should have different movesets, but you get the idea.
- Anita - Kinda weird to include her, but considering her only playable appearence, in Marvel Super Heroes, was the weirdest thing ever, I think it could earn her a spot in this game. Also, having her some other characters could make her moveset even more creative than the original one.
- Juli & Juni - Kinda biased pick, but pay attention to my idea first: though they're both unlikely to go two on one at the same time, I think they could emulate a tag-team moveset perfectly, their special would be summoning each other for assist attacks, swapping places or both. The reason I suggest these as secret characters is because they're not particularly popular, so they would be more like a different weird secret character.
- Ingrid - Ingrid became kinda like a phantom in Capcom because she was made for a cancelled crossover, then they made a smaller crappy crossover and tossed her in. I don't hate the character, but I think she should be treated as the pseudo-phantom she is and be a secret.
Post by: XANDERAC on June 27, 2020, 05:29:52 am
Post by: GreenZed on June 27, 2020, 07:09:10 am
Post by: SlenderMan on June 27, 2020, 12:21:16 pm
Post by: AVPboy on June 27, 2020, 05:11:56 pm
My point is that only either joke or at least somewhat "jokey" character should be secret (like KFM) in context of the roster or if the characters are too redundant to include for one franchise (like with SHADES protags). I know we already have Haggar, but just look at Street Fighter reps - none of them are secret. One of a few exceptions, I fell like would make sense, is if Akuma was secret, considering his status in the game he debuted.
Now that's solid, for sure.
I have sent CvTW Akuma to Sean for testing. Should be due for release soon if there isn't too many bugs to squash.
Holy Guacamole, it shall be actually possible then, excellent.
BTW, i don't if it would be prudent either to suggest this, but maybe this boy we all know and love would fit.
The only thing needed for this character's sprites would be to do the same as you guys are doing with Goku, rescaling with the .cns codes.
Post by: GreenZed on June 27, 2020, 11:57:06 pm
Post by: lui on June 28, 2020, 01:35:23 am
Post by: SlenderMan on June 28, 2020, 04:32:41 am
Now...onto Reptile and Ermac...phew.
Post by: Sean Altly on June 30, 2020, 07:36:34 am
@AVPBoy
That Leonardo is nice but it has some very incomplete looking animations along with some nice looking ones, also the sprite style is just a little too off for me. Good job to the person working on it though, looks good
@GreenZed
Maybe possible in a full game but not normally in Mugen, so probably not
@Lui
Sure, if you want to send it, it would probably help a lot if I decide to keep him in. I appreciate all the help I can get.
@SlenderMan
Yeah the Akuma you sent is good, my only issue is those SF3 sprites having palette issues compared to the CVS sprites, it's something I can't unsee. It will be a while before I feel like editing them myself TBH
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SOME UPDATES:
-I have commissioned Judas to animate Billy's fighting stance since it's a static sprite right now, he should be sending those sprites to me soon
-Drew the basic linework for all the new character's portraits. I searched my old files and found that I'd already drawn, inked and scanned portraits for Bison and Mario Mario, and weirdly I found full color portraits for Ermac, Byrne and Apollo, so I guess at some point I was going to add them as bonus characters. Ermac might end up in there along with Reptile, but I don't plan on adding Byrne or Apollo.
-Making progress on Fiona. During my research that consisted of watching a 6-hour playthrough of the game, I saw her using offensive items that weren't included in Li-Kun's release, like Antimony Powder and Magnesia (Li-Kun's has mines, but during the whole playthrough I never saw mines, only Magnesia which were similar). Here is the planned movelist for my version:
UNIQUE TACTIC:
-Not quite sure yet, would be easy to assign these commands to Hewie and she would have one less special. I've also considered making her Antimony Powder and Magnesia limited, and pressing the UT buttons would make Hewie "search" for items, replenishing some of her supply. Ideas welcome!
SPECIALS:
-Antimony Powder - QCF+P - Fiona throws a small orb full of powder that breaks and stuns her opponent on impact
-EX Version will be Refined Antimony, which causes a long electricity-like shock/stun to the opponent
-Magnesia - QCB+K - Fiona sets a small item on the ground that acts as a sort of mine, when the opponent walks over it, it explodes and causes damage. After a set amount of time it goes off anyway but this explosion causes far less damage.
-EX Version is Refined Magnesia, which does much more damage and doesn't go away after a set period, staying on the battlefield until it is stepped on
-Mandragora - QCB+P - Fiona plucks a mandragora plant from the ground and tosses it away quickly, where it emits a horrific shriek that causes damage tot he opponent and launches them upward.
-EX Version tracks the opponent's location so that it always lands at their feet
-Go Hewie! - QCF+K - Fiona sends Hewie out to bit her opponent, doing damage and holding the opponent in place briefly. Does damage over time, so if Fiona interrupts with an attack, she gets a combo but loses the rest of the guaranteed damage
-EX Version sends Hewie out at a faster speed, and instead of biting, he performs a diving headbutt that does big damage and causes knockdown
SUPER MOVES:
-L1 - Panic Attack - QCF+S - Fiona enters full panic mode, causing her to run forward while swiping wildly in the air, causing multiple hits to her opponent. She eventually trips and falls, knocking her opponent away. Very unsafe if blocked.
-L1 - Chandelier - QCB+S - Fiona jumps backwards as a massive chandelier crashes down in front of her, crushing her opponent. Tracks her opponent's location but is hard to combo into.
-L3 - Haunting Ground - DP+S - Fiona barely avoids a Luminessant, which instead hits her opponent. This causes Ricardo to appear and shoot the opponent twice, followed by Daniella coming from behind and slashing them several times with her glass shard, during which Fiona throws a dolly at the opponent, causing Debilitas to finish them off with a huge uppercut before retrieving the doll and running away
EDIT:
Preview vid.
From the video description:
Here's a preview of the incomplete Fiona. Still have to iron out some bugs, fix some hit stuns and timings and add all the necessary sound FX. She also still needs a Unique Tactic which I haven't decided on yet. Much props to Li-Kun's original sprites. I went a different direction than his version and eliminated all the costume supers and replaced them with Panic Attack (which was the first part of her previous L3), Chandelier Crash (inspired by her boss fight with Debilitas), and Haunting Ground (a new use for her stalker assists).
Post by: GreenZed on July 01, 2020, 01:30:50 am
You guys have actually made me rethink Ken as a main roster guy, I actually might shift him over to off-screen next to Ryu and put someone else in that spot.
TBH, personally I wouldn't want that, I was just arguing that Guy should be a proper member of the full roster. But it's up to you.
Fiona is looking good! Can't wait to eventually see Jotaro!
Also hoping that C.Viper and Frank West you've mentioned when this thread started will also eventually make it into the game :).
Post by: Sean Altly on July 01, 2020, 04:06:17 am
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 01, 2020, 04:34:42 am
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 01, 2020, 04:36:53 am
Post by: Sean Altly on July 01, 2020, 04:58:24 am
I just got done adding all of her voices and sound FX, the L3 is especially cool now with all the stalkers voices in there.
Post by: Nemuresu on July 01, 2020, 05:40:12 am
I was going to suggest the idea of maybe giving her random items for her UT, in a similar way to Phoenix Wright's evidence special from Marvel 3, but the idea of a healing move is far better.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 01, 2020, 06:19:50 am
I wouldn't say they were lazy because he actually had to make a lot of unique sprites for them (which is a ton of work), and honestly I hate to let the sprites and animations go to waste because they're really good, but yeah I agree she def needed something more directly related to the main game play.I don't mean lazy when it comes to sprite creation, I mean conceptwise: its not trying to do anything with the "attacks" that could be associated with her, they just slapped a costume on her so she could use generic and boring supers that we've seen thousands of times, instead of using the fact she is a non-fighter to make her feel more unique, kinda like Capcom did with Jill in MvC2, where many of her attacks are about her dodging hazards instead of directly attacking.
I just got done adding all of her voices and sound FX, the L3 is especially cool now with all the stalkers voices in there.
Post by: RagingRowen on July 01, 2020, 03:49:18 pm
Here's some examples I've got:
Sagat: His Angry Charge Super from Alpha 3 (V-Skill in SFV) that buffs his Tiger Uppercut/Blow could be made use with.
Wolverine: His Healing Factor Trait could be one thing.
Ryo (or another Art of Fighting Character): The Art of Fighting games were the first to include the Power Charge (Sprit Charge if you refer to the Gauge in them), so that could have some use.
A Martial Masters Character (Master Huang, Tiger, Ghostkick, etc.) (Buckus made the latter 2 and Descolor made a notable Huang): Martial Masters has a fair share of universal mechanics like "Retreat and Attack" (Roll Backwards then jump forward, allowing for an optional jump attack) or the "Shadow/Body Split Technique" (The Fighter sends out a clone with it's own attack (Comes in 2 variations per fighter)). I got those names from gamesdatabase.
Post by: XANDERAC on July 01, 2020, 07:33:48 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/xhdtErs.png) (https://i.imgur.com/zCiajgD.png)(https://i.imgur.com/4rtsVgx.png)
I really think Fiona is coming along well, I think that Huey himself should be the UT personally, like forward + UT, back + UT, down+UT could be moves for her, where maybe forward is the grab, down is the search, and back is something else, that way you can't abuse also just shooting him out there to take hits too I guess. Otherwise I think the idea of the search function works, or even just Huey as a grab/hold. I wish I knew more about Haunting Ground to give more relevant insight but I think you're definitely on the right track. Also I love how you used the stalkers from the original sprites that one is really good!
I know this is less of a concern but is the creator of your original stages still active? if not maybe you can always ask if you can use something like Charles_2011's work. He's got a fair bit of stages/edits made, and aesthetically I think the game might look nicer with more pixel-art based stages, but that's mostly just my own preference. Here's some examples of his work if you haven't seen them.
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Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 01, 2020, 08:17:11 pm
If you do decide to add Ermac, Fabrytaz has made a more modern rendition of his sprites which still should work with the style of your game, same with Scorpion if you ever wanted to use those instead of the current ones, although the current ones are fine. Even Sub-Zero if you wanted him as an alt, although it's the unmasked version.This actually would be really good, make the characters look more distinct.
(https://i.imgur.com/xhdtErs.png) (https://i.imgur.com/zCiajgD.png)(https://i.imgur.com/4rtsVgx.png)
Post by: SlenderMan on July 01, 2020, 09:23:57 pm
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 01, 2020, 11:36:05 pm
I wouldn't say they were lazy because he actually had to make a lot of unique sprites for them (which is a ton of work), and honestly I hate to let the sprites and animations go to waste because they're really good, but yeah I agree she def needed something more directly related to the main game play.I don't mean lazy when it comes to sprite creation, I mean conceptwise: its not trying to do anything with the "attacks" that could be associated with her, they just slapped a costume on her so she could use generic and boring supers that we've seen thousands of times, instead of using the fact she is a non-fighter to make her feel more unique, kinda like Capcom did with Jill in MvC2, where many of her attacks are about her dodging hazards instead of directly attacking.
I just got done adding all of her voices and sound FX, the L3 is especially cool now with all the stalkers voices in there.
These costumes are actually in the game. The thing is, they're nothing more than cosmetic unlockables.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 02, 2020, 03:18:22 am
Post by: AVPboy on July 02, 2020, 05:00:48 am
Question: do we have someone representing Slammasters? I know the sprites are quite old, but some characters could look really nice with only a better palette. Besides, I'd hate to see the game not having any representation here, maybe Black Widow? I think her sprites aged the best among the cast.
Oh my god! Victor Ortega would be out of this world too!
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 02, 2020, 01:33:37 pm
You guys have actually made me rethink Ken as a main roster guy, I actually might shift him over to off-screen next to Ryu and put someone else in that spot.
Well if you’re considering more Capcom characters, Li_Kun worked on sprites for Rouge from Power Stone a while ago. I recall seeing a video on the MFG discord of a playable version of the character that I believe was only missing some animations. If you’re interested, you could always ask around for them or if whoever is reading this has the sprites, perhaps they could share them with you as I don’t believe they’re being used for anything or hosted anywhere online.
-Fiona’s looking great, so polished and refined. Health regain UT works for her, but perhaps that could be a hyper and instead you could have a stronger version Hewie be her UT (have him hold on to the opponent for a full second longer at the cost of more UT bars, Maybe have his different variations use up more UT than the others). I can’t wait to see the finished product.
-I have to ask, are you going back and editing some of the older CSS portraits like you did with Ryu’s back in the day? Some like Chun-Li’s and Morrigan’s look flat in comparison to the aforementioned Ryu and Sol portraits, which look a lot nicer in comparison.
Post by: XANDERAC on July 02, 2020, 06:31:04 pm
Question: do we have someone representing Slammasters? I know the sprites are quite old, but some characters could look really nice with only a better palette. Besides, I'd hate to see the game not having any representation here, maybe Black Widow? I think her sprites aged the best among the cast.
I think Haggar technically counts since he's from Slam Masters and primarily Final Fight, even better since Sean made those sprites himself so they already match his style
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 02, 2020, 06:38:29 pm
Post by: XANDERAC on July 02, 2020, 06:43:32 pm
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 02, 2020, 08:07:53 pm
Post by: Sean Altly on July 02, 2020, 08:52:16 pm
And yeah I'll be taking a second look at some portraits and trying to make some more dynamic, after I'm done with new characters.
Post by: RagingRowen on July 02, 2020, 09:00:41 pm
Post by: XANDERAC on July 03, 2020, 06:08:57 pm
We have Alex and Haggar both for grapplers, The World has CM Punk who is a hybrid and was originally gonna have Tizoc but I dropped him. There are no Slammasters reps because the sprites don't fit. I said who the 12 new characters were gonna be back on page 5, y'all, you're killing me here, although I appreciate the enthusiasm!
And yeah I'll be taking a second look at some portraits and trying to make some more dynamic, after I'm done with new characters.
thanks for clarifying, I honestly forgot about Alex, because we've mostly been focusing on the new additions to the roster and I did remember you had 2 versions of CM Punk, I think that should cover grapplers. I also figured that would be the case with the Slam Masters characters because they have style that would fit in more with something like Street Fighter 2 since the sprites are pre-cps2.
I hope when you make the new characters you can include palette templates if possible, I made a pack of palettes for the old project and I'd love to update it as new characters are added if possible.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 03, 2020, 06:24:43 pm
Another update I'd suggest is giving Lynn her Team Duplex with Billy (Her canonical tag partner in her source game) for her Level 3 instead of the Tobi Ryu, making the latter a Level 1 (I'm not keen on Level 1s in source becoming MAX Level Supers or w/e).I don't like the idea of making important, playable, mostly solo characters like Billy an assist in another character's moveset. That should be reserved for minor sidekicks or nameless minions, it's a very lazy design choice.
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 03, 2020, 08:15:18 pm
Post by: XANDERAC on July 03, 2020, 09:10:43 pm
Post by: Roasted Pheasant on July 04, 2020, 08:46:11 am
Yeah I agree, if the character isn't going to be in the game there's no problem with them being included in a move, especially when they were part of the move itself
Batsu and (the girl I don't know) assist Kyousuke during one of his supers in CvS2, so there's decent precedent for it.
Post by: Insert Account Name on July 04, 2020, 11:18:04 am
Yeah I agree, if the character isn't going to be in the game there's no problem with them being included in a move, especially when they were part of the move itself
Batsu and (the girl I don't know) assist Kyousuke during one of his supers in CvS2, so there's decent precedent for it.
The girl's name is Hinata.
Now that we have seen Mario Mario, is it possible for Sonic's pallete to have the Movie pallete? Only his arms making blue and his voice from the movie as a alternate character
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on July 04, 2020, 03:02:10 pm
Post by: Sean Altly on July 04, 2020, 06:35:51 pm
@GTA
No that would require CS and I have no way or desire to rip a bunch of voice clips from the movie, sorry
@ChaosLumpy6
How can I forget something when 1) it has never been discussed in this topic and 2) I haven't put out this update yet? If you're suggesting I add some kind of special intro between the two, I had already considered it but the game doesn't have many special intros right now IIRC.
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 04, 2020, 06:37:12 pm
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 04, 2020, 06:44:35 pm
Can someone link me to either a video of the tandem Lynn/Billy attack or a version of Lynn that includes it? I don't have access to the original game anymore.
@GTA
No that would require CS and I have no way or desire to rip a bunch of voice clips from the movie, sorry
@ChaosLumpy6
How can I forget something when 1) it has never been discussed in this topic and 2) I haven't put out this update yet? If you're suggesting I add some kind of special intro between the two, I had already considered it but the game doesn't have many special intros right now IIRC.
It shows up right after Billy's solo ones. Honestly, it's not even unique, it's just her own super slightly mixed with his.
By the way, Sean, how will Shawn Spencer's moves be? I have no idea how he is, does he have actual powers, will he be like an X-Men-ish character?
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 04, 2020, 07:05:12 pm
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 04, 2020, 07:08:22 pm
Post by: XANDERAC on July 04, 2020, 08:22:09 pm
Speaking of X-Men... is there any on the roster?
I don't think there is due to Captain America being the Marvel rep in the original roster unless I'm mistaken, and he's more or less decided who he wants to focus on for the time being, so may as well just focus on the feedback for the current roster as is
Post by: AVPboy on July 04, 2020, 08:41:25 pm
You forgot Mario Mario vs Sonic Special Intro
Nobody forgot anything, you are just giving a proposal dude.
Post by: dakidbanks on July 04, 2020, 08:49:26 pm
Speaking of X-Men... is there any on the roster?
I don't think there is due to Captain America being the Marvel rep in the original roster unless I'm mistaken, and he's more or less decided who he wants to focus on for the time being, so may as well just focus on the feedback for the current roster as is
Cap and Dr. Doom
2 Marvel reps and I think 1 DC
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 04, 2020, 09:01:36 pm
Post by: dakidbanks on July 04, 2020, 09:10:50 pm
Post by: Sean Altly on July 05, 2020, 02:26:58 am
As of right now, Guy, Fiona, Bloodtide, and Goku are all ready to go (save for AI, which I will have to relearn since it's been like 7 years). I have started coding Jotaru and KFM and will post a preview of both in the next day or two. Things are ramping up!
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 05, 2020, 02:45:43 am
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 05, 2020, 02:51:20 am
This will be my last question/suggestion about new characters because I get that enough is enough, but are you dead-set on having Bison? It is a lot of SF representation, after all, and it seems like you could fill that slot in with a different character to add more variety to the roster, like swapping him out for the scrapped Hinata or another Gladia character like Saki.
I’m all for Storm over Wolverine if that ever becomes a poll (or even Jubilee).
For KFM, I believe Warner recently released more sprites that aren’t in the DW version, it’s mostly fatality compatibility stuff but there may be a new normal or two in there. Worth taking a look I guess.
Post by: Sean Altly on July 06, 2020, 02:32:35 am
Post by: Roasted Pheasant on July 06, 2020, 03:34:32 am
... actually as much as that's a joke I don't think it's the worst idea.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 06, 2020, 04:38:34 am
Post by: NeroX on July 06, 2020, 05:57:06 am
Oh wow, I'm happy to see you back Sean! I was notified on YT that you came back. I know you probably already have the roster set in stone at this point, but I'd like to throw in Bowser by K6666 as a suggestion.
Post by: GreenZed on July 06, 2020, 06:31:27 am
So I updated Adamas pretty thoroughly so that I could add him to CvTW. I also realized I hadn't released any stand-alone characters in quite some time so I figured why not release the new version of Adamas as an individual character rather than an update or an add-on. That being said, this character adheres mostly to CvTW gameplay (4 buttons, UT, CvTW Super commands, same combo system, etc.). Below is an abbreviated list of changes from SHADEs 2 Adamas and some screenshots.
Don't forget to include him in the full game!
Also, new stages are a must, since it's getting a little crowded out there. New stages are needed to showcase more fighters and there's gonna be 14 more of them. Hopefully you can at least contact EXShadow/Vibrant if necessary.
Post by: Sean Altly on July 06, 2020, 07:17:52 am
Whoa, those sprites are awesome. Are those from a game or are they done by the author?
@GreenZed
Ohhhhh, I completely forgot about that. I actually probably won't include him for personal reasons, I thought he was already in there and didn't see any reason to take him out, lol.
I will add a couple of stages as long as they fit the general aesthetic and don't seem redundant. I downloaded a couple of JB's stages he released while I was gone, along with that train stage suggested earlier.
Post by: NeroX on July 06, 2020, 07:52:40 am
@NeroXI think they are from an official release. Here's the release thread: https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/bowser-v2-0-187349.0.html
Whoa, those sprites are awesome. Are those from a game or are they done by the author?
Post by: Nemuresu on July 06, 2020, 08:23:17 am
That said, I'm not sure if the available animations are enough to make a proper CvTW moveset.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 06, 2020, 08:43:31 am
Post by: SlenderMan on July 06, 2020, 08:03:09 pm
Post by: Sean Altly on July 06, 2020, 08:32:28 pm
Post by: CinderFallFan on July 06, 2020, 08:41:21 pm
Post by: Sean Altly on July 07, 2020, 01:12:09 am
Should I get a VA for Kung Fu Man or make him silent?
Post by: Janis L.C.V. on July 07, 2020, 01:29:39 am
Post by: XANDERAC on July 07, 2020, 05:03:44 am
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mugen/images/9/94/TheKungFuMan.gif/revision/latest?cb=20110201032528)
I was going to suggest for KFM's SGS/Raging Demon, maybe adding a bit more spectacle if you were ok with that, something maybe a bit more like Akuma's SFV version where there's moments in the darkness where you can see him just fade in and strike on opposing sides with palm strikes and finishing with the big shoulder thrust
More like this I guess
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/261679618749235202/729894774630514688/KFM1.gif)
I threw together a really rough animation just using existing sprites as an example, if he finishes someone off with it maybe you can have the old Mugen logo appear instead of the kanji someone like Akuma gets (or maybe the kanji for mugen??) eitherway just my own suggestions, progress is looking great dude, glad to see it all coming together!
Post by: GreenZed on July 07, 2020, 05:05:38 am
K' menu select icon should be updated to reflect his new spriteset.
Rorschach zeppelin win pose should be only after round 2/3.
Just a reminder, that Strider has no AI. Hes meter also dosen't build when using taunt.
Ryu still have dialogue boxes, even with Capcom characters.
There's also the matter of Announcer. From what I understand, the original announcer VA is no longer on this forum, and it's still missing some audio bits, such as Double K.O. Might be something worth looking into.
Also, do you plan to give Jotaro english VA?
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 07, 2020, 07:10:19 am
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 07, 2020, 07:16:46 am
Here's Kung Fu Man in all his glory! Plus a new preview of Fiona with all her proper sounds.Looking really cool. I don't think you need a VA, but don't make him too silent either, maybe get onomatopoeias from another character, and let him have that, kinda like the original KFM, but more frequently. I also like XANDERAC's idea for the lvl 3.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/sJVUIHS7LJs[/youtube]
Should I get a VA for Kung Fu Man or make him silent?
Post by: Insert Account Name on July 07, 2020, 09:42:49 am
Post by: Roasted Pheasant on July 07, 2020, 11:17:45 pm
Post by: AVPboy on July 07, 2020, 11:49:09 pm
https://rurouniroad.blogspot.com/p/original-stages.html
That's the author's site, he has some more stages with these attributes.
There's two versions, Sunny & Rainy, if you want me to help by editing some details just like how i did with those SHADES 3 stages, just let me know.
Previews for you, if you are interested:
(https://i.postimg.cc/wjppCdn9/mugen000.png) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/t4NjyMHW/mugen001.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Post by: opalander on July 08, 2020, 01:43:29 am
Post by: Lunchbillion on July 08, 2020, 08:31:56 am
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 08, 2020, 09:03:53 am
- Alex/Charlie/Chun-Li/Ken/Ryu - Street Fighter V
- Blaze - Streets of Rage 4 (though I'm not sure if you'll find rips, but if you do, there is the suggestion)
- Jin Kazama - Street Fighter X Tekken (not really the most recent, but the only one in english)
- Megaman - Megaman 11 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nga0ymnomdU)
- Morrigan/Strider Hiryu - Marvel VS Capcom Infinite
- Scorpion/Sub-Zero - Mortal Kombat 11 (dunno if these are ripped either, but I know Mortal Kombat X' ones are)
- Skullomania - Fighting EX Layer
- Sol - Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN-
- Superman - Injustice 2
I know this would be a damn lot, but its just a suggestion, of course.
P.S.: Yes, I know this is a repost, but I accidentally deleted the first one, because I'm an idiot.
Post by: Momotaro on July 08, 2020, 09:09:08 am
- Blaze - Streets of Rage 4 (though I'm not sure if you'll find rips, but if you do, there is the suggestion)
There is SOR4 Blaze rips.
But her sprite style will definitely not match the game graphics. ^^;
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 08, 2020, 09:22:58 am
Well, the suggestion is only about her voice.
- Blaze - Streets of Rage 4 (though I'm not sure if you'll find rips, but if you do, there is the suggestion)
There is SOR4 Blaze rips.
But her sprite style will definitely not match the game graphics. ^^;
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 08, 2020, 11:51:46 am
Post by: AlexSin on July 08, 2020, 12:38:55 pm
Post by: Cyborg Sun on July 08, 2020, 10:01:36 pm
Post by: AVPboy on July 08, 2020, 10:24:09 pm
Doesn't DivineWolf's KFM already have voices? If you want to add voices, use those.
DivineWolf's KFM has plenty of voices, plus, much more polished sprites, here's some showcases of mine, for all of you to see:
Oh yeah, speaking of voices, do you have an actor for Mario, or are you gonna go with the good ol' "rip lines straight from the movie" approach?
I proposed myself to do it, but it was on Youtube, so i figured he didn't saw it or something. So...
I'd like to send some samples Sean, if you are okay with that.
Post by: Sean Altly on July 12, 2020, 05:20:22 pm
Yeah, as was mentioned, a lot of those voices are from VAs over at Voice Acting Club that I had an audition process for and everything. Considering how things have turned out for me using those guys (Kira Buckland and Amber Lee Connors did voices for me before going on to work on tons of cool stuff like Street Fighter V and My Hero Academia), I don't really wanna lose them. The only one I might replace is Blaze's. The Capcom characters you mentioned all have the same VAs in the newer games you referenced, so no real point in updating them. I do need to seek out those Jin SFxT rips, because he's one of the only Japanese VAs I never changed (along with the other Jin, Saotome, weird). Sol is voiced by my dude Jared J. Lee, who voiced Thirteen, Ruckus, Donny and Zenith for SHADEs, that guy is awesome. I'm shocked every day he hasn't blown up huge in the VA biz. Scorpion and Sub-Zero voices are by SlenderMan/Ignis55, and I';ve always liked them, especially Scorpion's.
@CyborgSun
No, I'm going to try to get someone to do an impersonation or something similar. I don't think getting one that sounds dead-on is possible, so we may have to settle on someone doing a unique voice that fits the look of the character.
@AVPBoy
Thanks for the tip on the stage, I've downloaded it and I'm about to check it out. It looks like it would fit the aesthetic of the stage. Plus I love rainy stages. Alsol, hell yeah, send me some voice samples through PM, I'd love to hear them as long as your recording equipment is good quality.
I downloaded DW's KFM a long while ago and didn't realize he did a voice for him, so if it's alright with him, I will use those.
I was also hoping to do somebody's voice myself, just for fun and to get some use out of this expensive mic setup I bought for rapping, lol.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 12, 2020, 06:04:00 pm
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 12, 2020, 07:21:24 pm
Post by: XANDERAC on July 12, 2020, 07:59:31 pm
Post by: Sean Altly on July 12, 2020, 08:46:41 pm
Go ahead man, all of my stuff is open source and can be used and edited how ever people want
@PBRTODD101
I actually already have a friend lined up for that. Back when he was being developed for MFG Street Fighter there was talk that the guy he was based on was from North Carolina. Despite growing up here, I don't have much of a discernible accent and can't really do an NC one, but a friend of mine has it and it's not annoying or over the top, plus he has the enthusiasm necessary. I just gotta get the stuff recorded. BTW, if anyone is wondering what a North Carolina accent sounds like, check out Danny McBride, or if you're a wrestling fan, check out Trevor Lee/Cameron Grimes, he's legitimately from my current town, Burlington.
@XANDERAC
I may add something like that in, but part of the appeal of the Kungofusatsu was how simple it was while also serving a purpose and kind of being a FGC in-joke.
Post by: SlenderMan on July 12, 2020, 08:52:30 pm
@SeanAltly Akuma is almost ready. I'm going over some bugs as well as adding some effects to the fierce specials. I've taken your advice and replaced the SF3 sprite conversions with the original CvS sprites. I only kept the back dash and 2 of the shoryuken start-up sprites that I could easily use. Soon as I can I'll send for final testing on your part as release should he be deemed ready. After which I'll get back to Ermac and Reptile asap. Lots of brainstorming to do with them as sprites are limited for them.
also thank you for the compliment on my voice work. I appreciate it.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 14, 2020, 02:50:13 am
@Macaulyn97Great! I'll wait for the next release, though, to make sure I patch the most updated version.
Go ahead man, all of my stuff is open source and can be used and edited how ever people want
Post by: AVPboy on July 15, 2020, 04:35:25 am
@AVPBoy
Thanks for the tip on the stage, I've downloaded it and I'm about to check it out. It looks like it would fit the aesthetic of the stage. Plus I love rainy stages. Alsol, hell yeah, send me some voice samples through PM, I'd love to hear them as long as your recording equipment is good quality.
I downloaded DW's KFM a long while ago and didn't realize he did a voice for him, so if it's alright with him, I will use those.
I was also hoping to do somebody's voice myself, just for fun and to get some use out of this expensive mic setup I bought for rapping, lol.
All right then Sean, i just sended some examples on your inbox for you to judge, if there's a clear idea of what you want me to do, please, direct me with that idea and send me the typed quotes and grunts you want me to perform, Thanks.
Post by: ZombieNeko on July 15, 2020, 04:50:52 am
Post by: Sean Altly on July 15, 2020, 05:47:55 am
Fiona's sprites are made by Li Kun and are already out there in his version, I haven't made any new actual sprites save for the little sprites for the antimony powder and the magnesia. That being said, everything I release is always open source and can be used for absolutely whatever you want, it's been in my signature below for quite a while.
@AVPBoy
I received them and will be PMing you soon
Post by: AVPboy on July 15, 2020, 07:59:33 pm
@AVPBoy
I received them and will be PMing you soon
Excellent! I'll be pending.
Post by: DW on July 19, 2020, 07:22:25 pm
Post by: Akito on July 19, 2020, 07:47:16 pm
Post by: Roadbattler on July 19, 2020, 11:13:00 pm
It inspired several versions of KFM!
It will be Awesome to have him fighting Ryu!
Post by: AVPboy on July 21, 2020, 06:29:49 am
I didn't VA KFM. A user here by the name of @Gritsmaster: did. I can't speak for him, though I don't think he'd mind. I think it's a cool idea to include KFM. He is the Mugen/Elecbyte rep after all.
I feel the same, and it would be crazy to add Diepod & Jesuszilla's Bluestreak, he fits perfectly and he is a original MUGEN character as well, hehe
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on July 22, 2020, 07:53:29 am
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 22, 2020, 09:17:50 am
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on July 23, 2020, 04:43:58 pm
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 23, 2020, 04:50:44 pm
Post by: Ziltoid on July 23, 2020, 05:23:18 pm
Post by: SlenderMan on July 23, 2020, 05:32:13 pm
The Roster is pretty big so far. I'm lucky to have gotten a few characters in the game.
Post by: Sean Altly on July 24, 2020, 03:43:28 am
(https://i.imgur.com/VlvVh8U.png)
It's... it's beautiful
This made my whole damn day, thank you
Post by: Ziltoid on July 24, 2020, 11:06:24 am
It's... it's beautiful
This made my whole damn day, thank you
Since you said that, now I feel entitled to ask you for Ziltoid the Omniscient as a character for CvsTW! (Jokes aside, your games made my day a lot of times, so I'm glad to have paid back a little)
Ziltoid the Omniscient has spoken. Heed his words and bring him your finest cup of coffee or he will unleash the Planet Smasher on Earth. lol.
You're the second person here that recognizes my username, didn't really expect to see Devinheads on a mugen forum!
(end of off-topic)
Post by: AVPboy on July 24, 2020, 04:51:18 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/VlvVh8U.png)
WOW! Memes are not a common theme in this forum, extremely bullseyed, it seems you love Comedy as much as you love Coffee.
The only thing missing would be a Forum Musical about such situations, you could invite the Planet Smasher as well, hehe
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on July 24, 2020, 07:22:33 pm
Post by: AlexSin on July 24, 2020, 07:41:29 pm
People told you to stop requesting stuff yet you still do/did.
Post by: AVPboy on July 24, 2020, 08:34:39 pm
It's to illustrate what you're doing.
People told you to stop requesting stuff yet you still do/did.
Even i, respectfully tried to tell him the same thing weeks ago.
ChaosLumpy, c'mon bro, just have fun with the current roster.
Post by: Roadbattler on July 24, 2020, 09:28:39 pm
Everyone Understood The Roster Now!
ChaosLumpy Are You Trying To End It All In Failure?
Post by: XANDERAC on July 25, 2020, 12:09:41 am
Post by: AVPboy on July 25, 2020, 03:17:44 am
I think we already even had Orochi Gill mention that even as a mod he's tried to get him to listen, and he still wouldn't so, it's probably best to just let him be. Just have fun and focus on the project itself going forward :rolleyesugoi:
Agreed!
BTW, dear sean, did you manage to pull something out of the test voice samples i sent you for Mario?
Post by: SlenderMan on July 25, 2020, 06:26:20 am
Post by: ExL on July 25, 2020, 09:32:26 am
You're the second person here that recognizes my username, didn't really expect to see Devinheads on a mugen forum!There's more of us than you think... We are coming, eyes to the sky ;-)
As for roster talk, well if Billy is only in Hyper for Lynn, not an assist that is cool. Personally I would like KFM to be better voiced and shaded than default. And I know Bowser was thrown away as suggestion, yet he can be unplayable sub-boss if anything(though won't be saddened if not). That's all input I wanna give and prefer to lurk in shadows just watching what happens next as I'm liking what I'm seeing :-)
Post by: MegaMushroom on July 26, 2020, 09:42:10 am
I hope you can add Vega, Juri, Bowsette and Hakan
https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SFV-cvs-Vega-848412621 (https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SFV-cvs-Vega-848412621)
https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SFV-cvs-Juri-Nostalgia-costume-780791620 (https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SFV-cvs-Juri-Nostalgia-costume-780791620)
https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/cvs-Bowsette-834205973 (https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/cvs-Bowsette-834205973)
https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SF4-cvs-Hakan-826145464 (https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SF4-cvs-Hakan-826145464)
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 26, 2020, 09:49:52 am
Post by: Insert Account Name on July 26, 2020, 10:47:54 am
Post by: dakidbanks on July 26, 2020, 01:59:23 pm
Post by: AVPboy on July 26, 2020, 04:18:38 pm
Wow, I Love Capcom vs the World full game
I hope you can add Vega, Juri, Bowsette and Hakan
You should check this Meme out dude...
(https://i.imgur.com/VlvVh8U.png)
I mean like, seriously, for fricking real.
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on July 26, 2020, 08:43:27 pm
@SeanAltly Akuma is almost ready.
If you don't mind me asking, what's Akuma's CVTW moveset like?
Post by: SlenderMan on July 26, 2020, 09:05:48 pm
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on July 26, 2020, 09:57:50 pm
He's pretty much standard Akuma with some moves put in and taken out. No Demon Flip. He's a combination of SF3/4/SFxT. I wanted to do some SFV-esque things but lack the know how on certain aspects. If I knew how to capture gameplay I'd let you guys see.
Ah, alright. Sounds pretty cool. What kind of SFV-esque things do you want to add?
Post by: SlenderMan on July 26, 2020, 10:01:34 pm
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on July 26, 2020, 10:24:08 pm
I would've liked to add in his Shin mode from SFV as well as his fierce Tatsumaki and Shin mode shoryuken leading to the slam down. I just don't have sprites for it and I'd have to figure the coding out. I have a trailer for you to see below. I managed to find some screencap software. Note he doesn't have an official CvTW select portrait yet. Sean might give him one.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/FyFltn5O5ks[/youtube]
Ah, ok. Akuma looks pretty good.
Post by: AlexSin on July 26, 2020, 10:50:37 pm
Isn't it possible for the Shun Goku Satsu to continue cover the bars like in the start? When it "attacks" the powerbars and the bars for the personal action appear.
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 26, 2020, 11:03:17 pm
Wow, I Love Capcom vs the World full game
I hope you can add Vega, Juri, Bowsette and Hakan
https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SFV-cvs-Vega-848412621 (https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SFV-cvs-Vega-848412621)
https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SFV-cvs-Juri-Nostalgia-costume-780791620 (https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SFV-cvs-Juri-Nostalgia-costume-780791620)
https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/cvs-Bowsette-834205973 (https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/cvs-Bowsette-834205973)
https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SF4-cvs-Hakan-826145464 (https://www.deviantart.com/sabockee/art/SF4-cvs-Hakan-826145464)
Hey, I've been letting this slide because this seems like more of a peer moderation thing and I trust Altly to put his foot down if really needed
But when people call you out for making requests where none are required and you take the wrong message and make an alt to continue doing it ChaosLumpy6, it now becomes larger board business
This is me banning your alt and giving you a warning to stay out of this thread or find your main account banned as well
Post by: SlenderMan on July 26, 2020, 11:12:20 pm
Post by: Steel Komodo on July 27, 2020, 12:34:03 am
Like I said. I'm not an experienced coder. I've wondered why it does that but it doesn't interfere with gameplay so I left it. I can see if I can figure it out though.
My best guess is that this is due to the UT Bars being coded into the characters themselves. You’d have to try and find a way to make them vanish during certain states, like toggling a variable of some kind.
While I’m talking, I’ve got some questions for Sean.
1) I don’t know how quick or easy this would be for you to implement, but is it possible at this stage to change the way basic combos chains work? Having played this game a fair amount, I’ve found that the
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chains are rather restrictive, and don’t really suit a VS-Style game, as toned down as it is. I’ve been wondering if a more open system akin to MVCI or Darkstalkers, say > > > , would be more suitable. It would open up the combo system a bit, allowing for more creativity and making the game feel a bit more like a VS game in that regard.I understand that this would also require major rebalancing of characters to pull off, including damage dampeners, health and damage values, etc. So I know this thought is pretty much just me pissing in the wind. However, I thought I’d at least throw it out there for consideration, in case the idea appealed to you in any way.
2) Any thoughts about updating the screenpack/UI? Or, considering that this is just completing the roster and not making any major balance changes to existing characters, is that not worth it? Because the title of “Super Capcom vs. The World” sounds pretty dope to my tired brain right now :P
Post by: SlenderMan on July 27, 2020, 02:00:36 am
Post by: XANDERAC on July 27, 2020, 03:35:30 am
Post by: Sean Altly on July 27, 2020, 06:38:12 pm
@SlenderMan
Thanks for posting that video, I was going to do a preview for him but now I don't have to, haha. I really appreciate your help on the project my guy and if you wanna work on someone else, let me know!
@Steel Komodo
I had originally planned on having some of the smaller/faster characters do the longer DS chains, but I got a bit lazy and ran into issues with the Damage Dampener. Honestly, I'd rather change the DD I've been using completely, but I don't know to mess with it much, which I know is lame because I should know how to do shit like that by now, but every time I take a break I end up having to relearn things (AI for example, I did the AI for most of these characters but I in that 3-4 year break I took from Mugen I basically forgot how to do it completely). For a long time I've wanted to use that same dampener but figure out a way for it to reset when a character does a Super Move so that Supers become more viable as combo enders, because the dampener kills their damage by the time you get to one in a combo unless it's a projectile or some other move with set/absolute damage. I know that damage dampening can be controlled better by adding to code to every hitdef but my lazy ass honestly just wants something I can add into the state -2 or -3, lol.
I would like to update the screenpack and UI, but beyond doing some font or color swaps I don't really have a ton of time to mess with it. I would love if someone who is great with graphics and PS to help me with a new screenpack, if anyone wants to give me a hand, let me know. As of right now it's really just me and SlenderMan working on stuff (Buckus coded several characters in the past and I had other help with the screenpack before).
PROGRESS UPDATE
So I know I'm breaking my own rules as far as the roster being decided, but I'm giving serious thought to adding Edward Falcon from Power Stone. I downloaded Nexus Games' version and I think there is a lot in there that I can comfortably use. I've been distracted by it actually and have already sprited two new normals for him to replace some of the (no offense to whoever made them) awful normal anims he has. I've spent a day or two going in-depth in the sprites, and I think I can use most of his basic actions and gethits, a few of the existing normals, and all the special and super sprites. I would personally need to sprite about 6 new normal attacks, new crouch gethits, a taunt, an intro and a couple win poses. He's very easy to sprite in the style he's in and since most of his outfit is the same color, I think I could knock those out in a week or two, and I think the value of having Power Stone represented in the game would be worth it. What do you guys think? Here are some of the new animations I made
(https://i.imgur.com/Dw1DIsm.gif)
Jumping LP (two new sprites with some existing frames)
(https://i.imgur.com/xAhJ7N3.gif)
Jumping HK (this one uses some heavily edited frames from another attack)
(https://i.imgur.com/CaejyTA.gif)
Crouching HK (this one is completely new sprites)
ALSO, I know not everybody here likes my art style but here are some finished portraits!
(https://i.imgur.com/wmsVdbJ.png)(https://i.imgur.com/j2pMgvt.png)(https://i.imgur.com/3z4GnMt.png)(https://i.imgur.com/9NBfCnm.png)(https://i.imgur.com/IEpPOCg.png)
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 27, 2020, 06:45:43 pm
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 27, 2020, 07:10:34 pm
Post by: Good_Wall533 on July 27, 2020, 07:32:19 pm
Post by: AlexSin on July 27, 2020, 08:35:26 pm
Anyway, they deserve a good coder and some new sprites, so I'm sure you'll do him justice. :D
Also the portraits look good, any chance they can be viewable fully without being cut on the top?
Post by: Sean Altly on July 27, 2020, 08:49:13 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/3CEpy6z.png)
Post by: Slayer. on July 27, 2020, 09:02:12 pm
I never played Power Stone, but I can relate to people who want a beloved franchise seeing more attention, so I say go for it, only good can come out of this.I felt that.
Sean, just out of curiosity, did you ever think about converting portraits to pixel art?
Post by: Nemuresu on July 27, 2020, 09:28:03 pm
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on July 27, 2020, 10:10:05 pm
Can you please change Sonic's Roger Craig Smith Voice Clip instead of Sonic's Jason Griffith Voice Clip?
MOD EDIT: USER HAS BEEN _BANNED FOR THIS POST.
Post by: SlenderMan on July 27, 2020, 11:46:30 pm
Post by: AVPboy on July 28, 2020, 01:04:43 am
Just Heads up, Sean
Can you please change Sonic's Roger Craig Smith Voice Clip instead of Sonic's Jason Griffith Voice Clip?
MOD EDIT: USER HAS BEEN _BANNED FOR THIS POST.
&%$@! &%@$! $@&%! WHY?!?!
Post by: Knuckles8864 on July 28, 2020, 01:13:32 am
Just watched Akuma's movelist, and I love how you use his SF4 English voice (I like it better than SF5's voice, that one sounds too calm for Akuma imho), and that fact you actually made the Kanji glow with the finishers.
Post by: RagingRowen on July 28, 2020, 01:21:25 am
&%$@! &%@$! $@&%! WHY?!
Hey, I've been letting this slide because this seems like more of a peer moderation thing and I trust Altly to put his foot down if really needed
But when people call you out for making requests where none are required and you take the wrong message and make an alt to continue doing it ChaosLumpy6, it now becomes larger board business
This is me banning your alt and giving you a warning to stay out of this thread or find your main account banned as well
This should explain it.
Post by: Emerie The G.O.A.T on July 28, 2020, 01:23:09 am
Post by: ZombieNeko on July 28, 2020, 01:26:09 am
Post by: XANDERAC on July 28, 2020, 02:03:21 am
Technically she's already in the character, but I know sometimes you've made some EX characters, wasn't sure if it would interest you but armin_iuf has made a version of Jill with RE3 style sprites and unique moves from her other versions.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xfe3cPgn0RE/maxresdefault.jpg)
Post by: DW on July 28, 2020, 02:41:12 am
I remember someone had commissioned Li_kun to make Rogue, but I don't think it got very far. All this aside, please do include him. It'd very much help the Capcom's side diversty. SF is the easiest source to take from, especially with FGs. It's nice to see other chars from other franchises Capcom has to offer.
Post by: Croix12 on July 28, 2020, 03:09:31 am
Post by: ShiroTori on July 28, 2020, 06:19:53 am
Post by: Sean Altly on July 28, 2020, 08:40:33 pm
Thanks man, all of your guys' words of encouragement are helping me work on him more. I'm going through his gethits and editing some details now. Rouge from PS would have been cool, I wonder what happened with that commission.
@XANDERAC
Yeah I checked that verison out when I started working on the game again a couple months ago and I didn't dig it, I'm pretty happy with the Jill we have especially since I got her away from the monster summon stuff.
@ShiroTori
I covered the whole Skullo/Arika thing when I first started on the game. Everything you said is true, they've distanced themselves from Capcom and SF for quite some time, but I think I'm going to leave him as is. As far as where Falcon goes on the Roster, right now my plan is to put him in Ken's spot and move Ken to a secret/side spot beside Ryu (ala Cactuar and the SHADEs protags).
@Errybody
Here, have some more ports (***THE FRANK PORTRAIT WAS DRAWN A WHILE BACK AND DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEANS HE'S IN THE GAME***):
(https://i.imgur.com/dXWKdtB.png)(https://i.imgur.com/sKS5wMD.png)(https://i.imgur.com/dgZFS8C.png)(https://i.imgur.com/JLCJYpa.png)(https://i.imgur.com/1lbm51J.png)
Post by: XANDERAC on July 28, 2020, 09:06:11 pm
quick edit:
While I wouldn't suggest using this I think it's the eyes mostly, since it makes him look like he's going cross-eyed looking at his forehead in your original. I would suggest redrawing his eyes a bit mostly, so that he can look more like he's looking towards his opponent rather than up. Shouldn't be a major fix or anything though
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/261679618749235202/737788390321160272/sKS5wMD2.png)
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 28, 2020, 10:28:14 pm
EDIT: privately apologized for bringing this to light. Moving on.
I think your art is mostly very solid, always has been unique in my opinion. Out of the new portraits I really think that Bison, Frank, Jedah, KFM, Shawn and Billy really standout. Jotaro's is great but his lips look kind of funny (I know it's a reference to Jojo's artstyle though), and Bloodtide's has some details around the face that make her seem older than she is (she's in her late 20's right?). Mostly her hairline. Do you have a helmet version of Billy's portrait? It would be cool for the lifebar version, as Billy is almost always wearing the helmet during gameplay.
Do you still plan on doing rivals like you were back then? Like Nash/Cap.
Post by: Cazaki on July 29, 2020, 12:05:53 am
Post by: DW on July 29, 2020, 02:34:57 am
https://www.streamable.com/ltyf1k (from the MFG discord)
:pwn:
Lui holding out? I'm gonna need that up off you asap. You need to let Sean get that asap.
Post by: Sean Altly on July 29, 2020, 03:18:59 am
@ Cazaki
Thanks man, your opinion has always been valuable to me and I really appreciate it!
@PBRTODD101
What DW said! How old is that video? Do they need someone to help complete the sprites, because I would be willing to do that if I could use them for the game, those look great!
I forgot to respond to this earlier but as far as Bloodtide's portrait goes, a while ago I was messing around with the idea that SHADEs 4 would be like Street Fighter 3 or Garou: Mark of the Wolves, in that it takes place after a time jump with only a few characters returning, and this redesign for her would be for that game where she would be around 35 or 40, which is why I drew that portrait the way I did with crow's feet near her eyes and stuff like that. I will probably never actually make SHADEs 4, but that was the idea I had.
Watching that video reminded me though, how does everyone feel about the moveset NG's Falcon has? I've watched some gameplay videos of Power Stone and as far as I can tell, Falcon has a few series of normal attacks but no unique specials or anything outside of his Power Dirves and Power Fusions (the transfored moves). All of those attacks are represented in NG's version, but it looks like he had to sort of make up some special moves for him, which makes sense since Capcom kind of had to do that with Jin Saotome.
The specials he made are as follows along with how I feel about them (the version I downloaded had no ReadMe so I don't know the actual names of these moves):
-Spinning DP - DP+P - I actually really like this and it makes sense since one of the Power Drives he does is a huge flaming tornado version, so having this one as a Special Move seems right to me.
-Cannon Drill but it's a Punch - QCF+P - This move seems to exist as a repurpose of his spinning DP sprites. I don't hate it and as of right now, my version has this move but rather than act like a Cannon Drill it's more like a Psycho Crusher that doesn't pass through the opponent.
EDIT: I was just watching more videos and he actually does this move in the game and NG's version was pretty accurate, as he's very low to the ground
-Wall Repel Attack - Forgot the command - This I guess has basis on the game since the characters can bounce off of walls and what not. Before I had done my proper research, I remade this move once again using the Spinning DP sprites, but I rotated them to different angles and made the move function sort of like Adon's Jaguar Tooth, except the angle is determined as he's repelling from the wall, as in if you're holding down it's a steeper 45 degree angle, if you hold forward it goes straight, and if you press nothing it's like a 65 degree angle.
-Spinning Kick Bullshit - QCB+K - This looked super bad and I ditched it altogether but my luck I will find out this is in Power Stone somewhere and is really important or something.
Might be missing something, but that's the ones I know of. Watching gameplay, there's lots of picking up objects and tossing them, as well as picking up weapons like guns and bazookas and bombs and stuff. Should I include some of that stuff? Maybe a special where he throws a large object, it could randomize between like a big box, a barrel and a table or something? The projectile itself would be fast and would travel in a slightly downward trajectory, but maybe it'd have more startup than your average projectile special. Just spitballing here. Honestly the three specials I kept and coded cover a lot of bases, a pure offense-type attack (Cannon Drill Punch), a DP, and a multi-use/utility attack (Jaguar Tooth type move), but they're a little boring and again, not sure how terribly accurate they are.
I am very open to ideas here!
EDIT: Watching more videos, just saw him do an Izuna Drop type move, gonna give him that too
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 29, 2020, 03:40:36 am
Post by: XANDERAC on July 29, 2020, 03:58:11 am
Post by: Roasted Pheasant on August 01, 2020, 11:10:54 pm
Post by: lui on August 02, 2020, 12:05:39 pm
just wanna clear up the thing regarding Rouge
really didnt think it would be brought up here but I guess thats my fault for underestimating the internet
I am not at liberty to share her due to a few factors:
a majority of the anims were sprired by gatorison in addition to Li_kun's and I only showed off this video in the discord to show his progress on her for his upcoming fullgame project. I didn't expect it to be shown outside of the discord since I was just asked about it by another user to see real quick. He is not finished with her.
I was donated his project that was also being worked on with AvPboy and kenshiro99 from what I remember as a courtesy to test things out and to give feedback along with a few other thing that didn't work out.
Unfortunately, it's simply not my project to share. I'd like to respect gatorison, kenshiro99 and AvPboy's wishes to release her along with the rest of their characters with their fullgame when they are ready sometime in the future.
This character won't be released by me since it's not mine and I do not wish to do so. It would be insanely disrespectful of me to do so.
Just in case anyone asks I'd like for people to not ask me for her due to the points above.
Thank you.
btw Sean your art style has improved a LOT compared to previous portraits. well done!
Post by: GuiltyBadguy on August 03, 2020, 03:57:52 am
Post by: SlenderMan on August 03, 2020, 04:29:49 am
Post by: Sean Altly on August 03, 2020, 05:10:21 am
Eh...word.
@GuiltyBadguy
Hey thanks, I appreciate it and I hope it doesn't disappoint.
@SlenderMan
You're the man bro, legit.
@Chris20855
Thank you, good sir!
@Xanderac
Yep, I'm going to give him a randomized item throw, the random nature will just be aesthetic (box, barrel, table), it will be a big slow projectile. If anyone could point me towards some sprite resources for the box/barrel/table that'd be awesome, I mean I can sprite the items themselves but the thought of having to sprite them breaking apart sucks, and I don't want them to just bounce off and disappear or something dumb like that.
So here's his moveset plan as of now, please correct these move names if they have official names as I could only find a few:
SPECIAL MOVES
-Falcon Arrow - QCF+P - Cannon Drill/Spiral Arrow-type move but it's a punch. Stays low to the ground.
-EX Falcon Cannon - Faster, travels further and pops the opponent up and over Falcon
-Falcon Cannon - DP+P - Pretty standard Dragon Punch that hits multiple times, with a bit more forward movement than most.
-EX Falcon Cannon - More invulnerability frames, less startup and recovery but middling damage
-Falcon Sniper - HCB+P - Falcon leaps to the upper corner of the screen ala Vega/Adon, and repels off with a directed Falcon Arrow. Holding D or F as he repels will change the direction. LP and HP variations determine whether he leaps to the corner behind him or in front of him.
-EX Falcon Bomber - Pressing any direction + P after the initial repel attack will add a second one in the respective direction
-Object Toss - QCF+K - Falcon produces a large randomized object (either a table/box/barrel) and tosses it at a downward angle towards his opponent. Randomization is aesthetic only. Will be a big, slow move but the projectile itself will be quite large and do good damage.
-EX Version - Less startup and the projectile travels forward farther.
-London Bomber - HCB+K (in air okay) - Command grab, performs a big spinning Izuna Drop. Can be done in the air as well.
-EX Version - Standard, less startup and longer range
SUPER MOVES
-L1 - Power Drive: Hurricane Aura - DP+S - Transforms into his Powered form and delivers a big, flaming, spinning Shinruken-style uppercut
-L1 - Power Drive: Missile Launcher - QCF+S - Transforms into his Powered form and shoots 3 powerful homing missiles at his opponent
-L3 - Power Fusion: Streak Dash - QCB+S - Transforms into his powered form, surrounded by energy, and does three fast, hard-to-avoid dashes across the screen, doing massive damage.
I know he has another big attack in the game, where he unleashes a ton of homing missiles, but I think that works better in a 3-D environment and would be a bit redundant here since he already has Missile Launcher. UT to be determined, might make the item toss his UT, not sure yet.
Post by: lui on August 03, 2020, 06:59:01 am
Post by: PBRTODD101 on August 03, 2020, 04:18:27 pm
I’ve been meaning to ask for a while, but as far as already existing characters go, I always found it strange that Blaze is the only one without a level 3 super. Streets of Rage 4 gave everybody a super art and Blaze’s ends up being a simple one that is easy to combo into, which I think would be good for her kit as combo-ing into anything that isn’t Shin Kikosho is pretty hard to do. Would like to suggest it as a level 3. Blaze has always felt more limited than say Ryu or Cap in the combo department.
It first appears at the 1:15 mark. Mostly used as a powerful combo finisher.
Post by: Sean Altly on August 03, 2020, 06:41:22 pm
The original plan for her L3 was going to be the special from SOR1, where she called in a cop to shoot a missile at the opponent but I never got around to it.
Post by: Gladiacloud on August 03, 2020, 06:56:01 pm
I know he has another big attack in the game, where he unleashes a ton of homing missiles, but I think that works better in a 3-D environment and would be a bit redundant here since he already has Missile Launcher. UT to be determined, might make the item toss his UT, not sure yet.
I know that there's an old B.B Hood character that has a similar hyper move.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 03, 2020, 07:30:22 pm
Post by: FeLo_Llop on August 03, 2020, 08:27:46 pm
I am very open to ideas here!
I'm not too familiar with Power Stone, but I remember it having an anime. Maybe somethig decet could come from it!(except if it's as American Darkstalkers or SF).
Post by: PBRTODD101 on August 03, 2020, 09:09:04 pm
Has anyone ripped sprites from SOR4 yet? I can sprite that animation fairly simply but I'd love the FX that are on it.
https://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/streetsofrage4/sheet/132472 (https://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/streetsofrage4/sheet/132472). FX and character animation frames are separate.
I am very open to ideas here!
I'm not too familiar with Power Stone, but I remember it having an anime. Maybe somethig decet could come from it!(except if it's as American Darkstalkers or SF).
He doesn’t fight much differently in the anime, the only thing I can think right off the bat is his homing punch in his powered up form. Then again I haven’t seen more than 3 episodes of it. Falcon is a boxer and the anime uses that in his fighting style, perhaps a rolling or sidestep punch that goes through projectiles can be his UT. Maybe have it take off half of the UT bar in exchange for it being a good combo starter and not just a projectile punish.
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 03, 2020, 11:08:16 pm
Has anyone ripped sprites from SOR4 yet? I can sprite that animation fairly simply but I'd love the FX that are on it.
The original plan for her L3 was going to be the special from SOR1, where she called in a cop to shoot a missile at the opponent but I never got around to it.
I actually have ripped all of the game's graphics already, I just kind of forgot to post them. There is a tool which allows to view and modify the game's assets, it was posted on the official Discord of the game.
EDIT: https://github.com/jlcebrian/SOR4Explorer
Post by: AVPboy on August 03, 2020, 11:10:55 pm
Here, have some more ports (***THE FRANK PORTRAIT WAS DRAWN A WHILE BACK AND DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEANS HE'S IN THE GAME***):
(https://i.imgur.com/dXWKdtB.png)(https://i.imgur.com/sKS5wMD.png)(https://i.imgur.com/dgZFS8C.png)(https://i.imgur.com/JLCJYpa.png)(https://i.imgur.com/1lbm51J.png)
This artwork is solid gold, very well done.
Post by: XANDERAC on August 03, 2020, 11:59:19 pm
You can probably use some of these like the chest, bomb, food and gems from Super Gem Fighter
(https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/116/118780.png?updated=1561135796)
64th Street: A Detective Story
(https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/99/101976.png?updated=1515216631)
I might also suggest some of the melty blood maid type characters? they have a lot of item-based attacks
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
there's also that Phoenix Wright by Blade & Riklaionel that has some item sprites you could probably use for this as well
Post by: GreenZed on August 04, 2020, 06:15:31 am
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 04, 2020, 08:29:12 am
Post by: Momotaro on August 05, 2020, 10:07:11 pm
And perhaps her regular walk animation.
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on August 07, 2020, 07:00:14 am
https://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/streetsofrage4/ (https://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/streetsofrage4/)
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 07, 2020, 07:20:01 am
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 07, 2020, 08:22:54 am
Guys, I've
Boyo, you're not getting it
You're done in this thread
This is the consequences of your behavior and it is not temporary
You can have another week and then it's gonna get worse
Post by: AVPboy on August 11, 2020, 09:10:14 pm
Edit: Did you manage to receive my new voice sample for Mario? You just tell me bro.
Post by: PBRTODD101 on August 11, 2020, 10:20:06 pm
Post by: Sean Altly on August 12, 2020, 01:53:39 am
Here's a preview of Falcon. He still needs several animations but he's coming along nicely, I think. I still plan on adding and fixing some details in his gethits as well. Also, no L3 yet, but you'll see I went with a L1 Homing Missile super that's closer to his big, multiple homing missile super from PS that still works as a L1.
Post by: DW on August 12, 2020, 04:32:45 am
Aye! I like what I'm seeing here. Everything save the generic crate/item throw. Unless that's his UT? I know that throwing crates and all was apart of PS, but something like that could literally be given to anyone. However, if it's his UT to supplement his lack of standard projectiles.... I can rock with it.
I think he should get a bit more vertical lift on that forward boost punch special. He's too low to the ground IMO. The wall jump punch is pretty cool...but I'm not sure how practical it'll be. Especially since he doesn't seem to have the same speed/range as like say, Adon's Jaguar.. w/e kick special like that. Is it an overhead? Maybe you could make the horizontal version of it unblockable for airborne p2. While the angled one is an overhead. That way, he could more than likely use the horizontal version for snuffing out p2's mid stage air approach. His DP already covers the close range air approach.
Post by: SlenderMan on August 12, 2020, 05:20:59 am
Bob Hoskins Mario is lookin pretty sweet. Kinda wish Batman was still gonna be a thing as I loved TAS. I grew up on that show.
Post by: dakidbanks on August 12, 2020, 05:48:52 am
Definitely looking awesome. I think if I had the sprites available I'd do Nightwolf, Shang Tsung, Kano or Richter Belmont..though I know the roster is already set. Oh the possibilities for movesets.Didnt this game always allow for DLC though? Like your Reptile and Ermac? I’d check chuchoryu’s Shang Tsung for sprites if you plan to convert him in the future. Kano and Nightwolf sprites are out there as well but not sure how they fit visually to the other chars and yeah I too wish Alucard’s Batman sprites made it in
Bob Hoskins Mario is lookin pretty sweet. Kinda wish Batman was still gonna be a thing as I loved TAS. I grew up on that show.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 12, 2020, 06:55:48 am
Yeah, I'm def sticking with his music. I've been in touch with him recently about sending me new arrangements and possibly making themes for the new characters that don't already have one, like Shawn Spencer, Movie Mario and Bloodtide.
Here's a preview of Falcon. He still needs several animations but he's coming along nicely, I think. I still plan on adding and fixing some details in his gethits as well. Also, no L3 yet, but you'll see I went with a L1 Homing Missile super that's closer to his big, multiple homing missile super from PS that still works as a L1.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/0MZO-5NJeiw[/youtube]
ARE YOU WATCHING, CAPCOM??? THIS RANDOM GUY IN THE INTERNET IS MAKING A BETTER JOB WITH YOUR FRANCHISE THAN YOU!!!
Definitely looking awesome. I think if I had the sprites available I'd do Nightwolf, Shang Tsung, Kano or Richter Belmont..though I know the roster is already set. Oh the possibilities for movesets.You can try making the MK with their original sprites. You said yourself they're not gonna be in the roster, but you could at least make a good character regardless.
Bob Hoskins Mario is lookin pretty sweet. Kinda wish Batman was still gonna be a thing as I loved TAS. I grew up on that show.
Post by: SlenderMan on August 12, 2020, 07:44:28 am
Post by: Insert Account Name on August 12, 2020, 09:21:14 am
Post by: AlexSin on August 12, 2020, 10:25:12 am
and this is the original page that isn't online anymore:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/p9hl1j7q5c67rj9/Falcon%25282DForever%2529.rar/file
the other not good sprites were made by Nexus Games.
Post by: XANDERAC on August 12, 2020, 04:59:55 pm
Post by: GTOAkira on August 13, 2020, 12:45:09 am
Haggar barrel move is at the start of the vid.
Great work as always.
Post by: opalander on August 13, 2020, 01:23:06 am
Post by: XANDERAC on August 13, 2020, 06:01:50 am
not sure if you're using the video game rips for the sounds, but there was an anime and this has sounds you might be able to use for supers and stuff (you might find better quality ones elsewhere)
Post by: PBRTODD101 on August 14, 2020, 04:14:35 am
He looks amazing. I feel like the crate and barrel throw could be similar to haggar in mvci. Not sure how much spriting that would require tbh. I feel like it would give the move more use in general. I also feel like the barrel should break out and not just disappear it looks a bit weird this way.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKHiKfI6GLA[/youtube]
Haggar barrel move is at the start of the vid.
Great work as always.
Additionally, when the box or barrell connects with the opponent, it could break and reveal an item for Falcon to receive, such as gems (which could give Falcon a little bit of health, energy, or UT meter depending on the color, food (for slightly larger health regeneration), red fire orb (to slightly power up the power of Falcon's supers), and Capcom's famous yashichi (for about two or three seconds on invincibility). If the container doesn't connect with the opponent, then it could land on the battlefield for anybody to attack and break. Maybe enemies could even grab Falcon's item in order to keep Falcon from receiving these buffs himself (maybe aside from gem buffs they wouldn't be affected by the buff, but would rather just keep Falcon from grabbing the item and getting the buff).
It would work like this:
-If Falcon throws the container and it hits the opponent, then the box would break and the item would pop up, but due to the distance Falcon wouldn't be required to grab the item by himself, and in turn would just flat out receive it from afar.
-If Falcon throws the container and the opponent blocks the box, then the box would still break and the item would fall to the floor for anybody to pick up.
-Finally, if the box is thrown but doesn't hit the opponent, then it would linger on the battlefield for either Falcon or the enemy to break and claim the item.
These unique properties could make the Item Toss his UT to avoid it being easily abused.
Post by: GTOAkira on August 14, 2020, 10:29:05 pm
Post by: XANDERAC on August 15, 2020, 12:07:19 am
Post by: AMultiverseAuthor on August 15, 2020, 12:15:48 am
Will Falcon's SFF include enough sprites to make him a 6-button conversion? (In case someone wants to make him MVC styled like Gladiacloud or Kenshiro99's characters.)
Post by: Sean Altly on August 15, 2020, 05:46:06 am
Yeah the item throw is his UT for right now. Pressing UT does the Barrel throw which is a little faster but has a steeper angle, F+UT throws the box which obviously goes further. As for the Boost Punch thing, I thought he seemed too low as well, but if you check out this video at around 2 minutes and 45 seconds he does the move and he's pretty low to the ground when he starts it.
And yeah the Wall Punch is an overhead, but I didn't think of making the horizontal one unblockable in mid-air, that's a good idea, thanks! Also, it may get faster if it proves hard to use when he's being tested.
@GTA
Ah, thanks for answering that question for me, I didn't know where the current voice came from but it sounded familiar. I will probably go with an English voice for him. I'm actually considering voicing him myself to see how passable my accent is, lol.
@AlexSin
Thanks, I appreciate it
@GTOAkira
The reason they don't break when they hit is because I have searched for hours across a bunch of sites and sources and can't find any passable existing sprites of boxes/barrels that break or have breaking animations. So I had to draw the box and barrel myself and for now they don't break because I am dreading the idea of drawing sprites for them breaking, unless I just do something like make them break in half and then disappear. Def not drawing a bunch of splintering wood and all that, I tried and it looks bad. As for the Haggar stuff, this move is just supposed to be a fairly simple angled projectile UT, that's a good idea and all but I don't really want to get too complicated with it.
@PBRTODD101 and XANDERAC
Yeah, the same as I said above, these are great ideas but it gives me a headache just thinking about implementing all that and I'd rather just leave it as a projectile since no one else in the game has any mechanics quite that complex (save for maybe Sonic's item boxes). I might do the thing where occasionally a random item comes out of the box if I end up finding/drawing sprites of it breaking open.
@RPGamerWriter
Probably not, I'm already having to replace entire animations so I'm really only concerned with getting him up to 4-buttons. Maybe if they get creative or do the CVS2 thing (where light and medium attacks are sometimes the same animation with different speed/properties).
Thanks for all the positive feedback everybody, it's very helpful and I'm sorry it takes me so long to reply sometimes, and I'm sorry if my replies are disappointing. I'll have more progress to show soon, including his L3 super and his portrait. Things are just really slow going.
Post by: GTOAkira on August 15, 2020, 08:39:18 am
Post by: Insert Account Name on August 15, 2020, 08:56:30 am
That will work too.
Post by: ZombieNeko on August 15, 2020, 05:04:01 pm
Just one question:
Will Falcon's SFF include enough sprites to make him a 6-button conversion? (In case someone wants to make him MVC styled like Gladiacloud or Kenshiro99's characters.)
Pretty sure someone else made that happen, but their version is currently private and for a full game apparently °_°
Post by: XANDERAC on August 16, 2020, 12:14:21 am
Post by: Sean Altly on August 16, 2020, 12:28:11 am
Just one question:
Will Falcon's SFF include enough sprites to make him a 6-button conversion? (In case someone wants to make him MVC styled like Gladiacloud or Kenshiro99's characters.)
Pretty sure someone else made that happen, but their version is currently private and for a full game apparently °_°
I know they said this was the case earlier with Rouge, but is this true for Falcon as well? Cause I gotta be honest, if there's someone out there already working on sprites for this character and they're keeping them private for a full game it's gonna be kind of a big hit to my motivation to continue working on this. I guess I missed the boat when it comes to getting onboard these big team projects, but I don't think I'd fit in because I would want to share any sprites I make with the rest of the community. Hell, I'm still waiting on Judas to complete my commission for Billy's fighting stance animation but as soon as I get it, it will be available for anybody to use.
Where am I able to follow the progress for these projects if I can?
Post by: Eric The Nihilist on August 16, 2020, 12:33:18 am
on the same level as that Devillote that came out a while back.
Post by: dakidbanks on August 16, 2020, 12:41:29 am
Just one question:
Will Falcon's SFF include enough sprites to make him a 6-button conversion? (In case someone wants to make him MVC styled like Gladiacloud or Kenshiro99's characters.)
Pretty sure someone else made that happen, but their version is currently private and for a full game apparently °_°
I know they said this was the case earlier with Rouge, but is this true for Falcon as well? Cause I gotta be honest, if there's someone out there already working on sprites for this character and they're keeping them private for a full game it's gonna be kind of a big hit to my motivation to continue working on this. I guess I missed the boat when it comes to getting onboard these big team projects, but I don't think I'd fit in because I would want to share any sprites I make with the rest of the community. Hell, I'm still waiting on Judas to complete my commission for Billy's fighting stance animation but as soon as I get it, it will be available for anybody to use.
Where am I able to follow the progress for these projects if I can?
I’m witcha.. there’s tons of characters/edits kept private for a bunch of random reasons
Ppl lose interest watching YouTube videos of characters they’ll never play. Idk of any other Falcon out there besides the Nexus games one
Post by: Nemuresu on August 16, 2020, 01:15:46 am
But that's getting off-topic by this point, so I'd like to ask something about Jedah: I know he hasn't been showcased yet, but I wonder if he's gonna have his unique launcher and scythe specials from MvC:I (I know Shin Zankuro made them for his version) or if other animations will be used in their place.
BTW, Falcon's really looking nice and I can't wait to see him complete.
Post by: Mr.Karate JKA on August 16, 2020, 02:46:43 am
Nice Job! And good luck with your projects Sean!
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on August 18, 2020, 06:05:39 pm
Will Goku have Power Charge
Also, All Characters have Power Charge
Post by: AlexSin on August 18, 2020, 07:08:25 pm
I've got a question:
Will Goku have Power Charge
Also, All Characters have Power Charge
Boyo, you're not getting it
You're done in this thread
This is the consequences of your behavior and it is not temporary
You'll get what you deserve.
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 18, 2020, 07:28:49 pm
There's the month
Post by: RagingRowen on August 18, 2020, 07:31:25 pm
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Post by: RagingRowen on August 18, 2020, 07:41:12 pm
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 18, 2020, 07:46:30 pm
Post by: Sean Altly on August 19, 2020, 03:22:46 am
(https://i.imgur.com/z0lcaxh.gif)
About to start trying to draw the box/barrel breaking. Uggghhhhhh, lol
Post by: DW on August 19, 2020, 03:28:04 am
Post by: ShiroTori on August 19, 2020, 04:48:34 am
Post by: Basara Lapis on August 19, 2020, 06:43:58 am
Whoa, FINALLY a character from Power Stone and it's just one of my mains in the games!! Looks awesome Sean, keep going!! :D
Post by: lui on August 19, 2020, 07:41:37 am
to be frank, it's 1000 times better than the existing one and I kind of am getting sick of these "private" versions of characters. I got pretty upset at myself for getting involved with someone's private game knowing I can't morally release it without being a scumbag. I really wish I could.
I was atleast able to help out with another character so that made me feel a bit better :P
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 19, 2020, 08:46:44 am
Post by: AlexSin on August 19, 2020, 11:19:41 am
you would know the name of the character is just Falcon and that Sean Altly was a bit demotivated after hearing that other people may have worked on him in other full games / privately, but he changed his mind for the better.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 19, 2020, 04:14:34 pm
Post by: AlexSin on August 19, 2020, 04:18:44 pm
But hey, didn't I post a link? Didn't you click on it? That was the context, then you could have just read the following comments.
Post by: AVPboy on August 21, 2020, 07:18:17 pm
There's still some fitting HI-RES stages i've found.
Post by: Sean Altly on August 26, 2020, 07:49:41 pm
Also here's Falcon's run animation
(https://i.imgur.com/n4ElNLc.gif)
Post by: Colonel Sanders on August 26, 2020, 08:18:58 pm
Post by: AVPboy on August 26, 2020, 10:30:21 pm
I'm wide open for stage suggestions, so lemme hear em!
Also here's Falcon's run animation
(https://i.imgur.com/n4ElNLc.gif)
Duuude... it's so fluid.
Here's one of the suggestions, i shall see if any other stages that may be compatible later, since not all of the hi-res stages i found are alike with the game's style.
Name: Death Valley Mountain by EXShadow
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ths62gn4hiab1za/XX%2527VALLEY%2527XX.zip/file
mountainside temple but in the Capcom vs the World '20 universe, how about that?
That one is already covered, i suggested and shared it some weeks ago. Thanks man.
Post by: GreenZed on August 26, 2020, 10:37:56 pm
Alternatively, I would suggest The Earth As We Know It by EX Shadow for the final boss. It fits the lore and theme of the game, even though the size of it is quite big. Here's laggy preview:
Post by: AVPboy on August 26, 2020, 11:18:15 pm
I was going to mention Death Valley as well, but AVPboy beat me to it. It's definitely a final boss type stage, even though we still don't know who it's going to be.
Alternatively, I would suggest The Earth As We Know It by EX Shadow for the final boss. It fits the lore and theme of the game, even though the size of it is quite big. Here's laggy preview:
This one is pretty cool, it also fits perfectly for a pretty crazy Bonus Stage Mini Game or something.
Post by: TempestSageJDJ on August 27, 2020, 01:41:38 am
Post by: Sean Altly on August 27, 2020, 06:15:59 am
The Earth as We Know It is also really nice but it's too similar to the training stage that's already in the game, the one featured in most of the vids I post.
Post by: GreenZed on August 27, 2020, 07:28:03 am
The Earth as We Know It is also really nice but it's too similar to the training stage that's already in the game, the one featured in most of the vids I post.
That's why I put it, so that both training stage and the final boss stage would be similar, in a "book ends" trope kind of way. Oh, well.
My other suggestion would be Asura stage by Jeanbureau, incase you're going with, well, Asura as CvTW final boss. Here's preview:
(http://www.trinitymugen.net/forum/tp-images/dlmanager/2uidmugen481.png)
There are tons of stages by the one and only EXShadow over the years. that would fit this game quite well. On the top of my head, there was Creepy Mansion, that could be fitting for more fantasy-esque characters such as Morrigan, Jedah, Squall. Maybe even Resident Evil chars could use it as well:
(https://i.imgur.com/TeE2r6U.png)
You've mentioned that you like rainy stages, in that case, I would suggest checking out EXShadows "Rainy Day".
All in all, I feel like at most the game lacks a stage during night, so I would personally go with Midnight Skyline I've mentioned earlier and a stage for a final boss.
Post by: XANDERAC on August 27, 2020, 08:13:33 am
Post by: Sean Altly on September 04, 2020, 10:54:56 pm
Isn't that stage with the flowers from Blazblue?
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 04, 2020, 11:56:15 pm
Post by: GreenZed on September 05, 2020, 01:29:49 am
Isn't that stage with the flowers from Blazblue?Seems like it is, I thought it was an edit. In that case, I would go for Fairy Night by Jeanbureau instead:
(http://www.trinitymugen.net/forum/tp-images/dlmanager/1323570002mugen405.png)
Post by: AVPboy on September 11, 2020, 03:01:37 am
please finish your version of Falcon, it looks so well made.
to be frank, it's 1000 times better than the existing one and I kind of am getting sick of these "private" versions of characters. I got pretty upset at myself for getting involved with someone's private game knowing I can't morally release it without being a scumbag. I really wish I could.
I was atleast able to help out with another character so that made me feel a bit better :P
... I see what you did there...
Post by: Sean Altly on September 23, 2020, 04:59:43 am
Post by: XANDERAC on September 24, 2020, 03:08:17 am
Post by: Sean Altly on September 24, 2020, 04:29:28 am
Post by: XANDERAC on September 25, 2020, 02:34:54 am
Post by: lui on September 25, 2020, 05:16:49 pm
please finish your version of Falcon, it looks so well made.
to be frank, it's 1000 times better than the existing one and I kind of am getting sick of these "private" versions of characters. I got pretty upset at myself for getting involved with someone's private game knowing I can't morally release it without being a scumbag. I really wish I could.
I was atleast able to help out with another character so that made me feel a bit better :P
... I see what you did there...
wasn't a reference to you guys. chill.
was a reference to another thing.
Post by: Sean Altly on September 28, 2020, 11:25:35 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/ZtrYNz7.png)(https://i.imgur.com/L93ITGK.png)
Also a win pose!
(https://i.imgur.com/85FyBPD.gif)
So it's looking increasingly like I won't be able to get out the original intended update of 12 characters by the end of 2020, making the whole "Capcom vs The World '20" thing kind of obsolete. A user on Youtube insisted I release a partial update and I normally would be like nah don't tell me what to do, but I think it might actually be an okay idea to go ahead and release what's done. So here in the next week or two I'm going to put out an update that will include Fiona, Falcon, Guy, Akuma, Goku, Bloodtide and Kung Fu Man, along with a new stage (probably that Skyline stage). Sorry I'm not further into this update but I'm really swamped at work and have been having time management and motivation issues.
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Also, what's your guys' opinion on this, something I found on Youtube last week:
^^^NOT MY VIDEO OR UPDATE^^^
Looks like someone else has been working on a pretty substantial update to the game. This video was posted a month ago, and based on some of the stuff he says in the vid, maybe he doesn't know that I've been working on the game again? I mean he can do his own thing, I'm not complaining or trying to stop it because it looks pretty cool (aside from some clashing sprites IMHO), just looking for some thoughts on it.
Post by: SlenderMan on September 28, 2020, 11:36:14 pm
Post by: Sean Altly on September 28, 2020, 11:38:06 pm
Post by: SlenderMan on September 28, 2020, 11:44:20 pm
Post by: Steel Komodo on September 29, 2020, 12:02:11 am
Personally, I think you should let the guy know you’re working on your own update. I would also advise against letting him offer to ‘help’ with your version - he's clearly doing something different with this version and it’d be better for you to stick to your own vision here. Unless, of course, there’s anything you explicitly want to adapt from his version. That’s up to you, of course.
Post by: dakidbanks on September 29, 2020, 12:06:49 am
I’m sure he’s unaware that Sean is back.. Sean + the help from that guy and the contributions slender man made could probably lead to a massive update... of course sean’s release will omit something of those characters in the video due to sprite inconsistencies
Either way though, he should let the guy know he’s also back after 7 years
Post by: Steel Komodo on September 29, 2020, 12:14:53 am
Also, if I must be honest, I wasn’t fond of what I saw in that video. I appreciated the visual updates on some characters, and Jedah looked pretty cool, but others didn't seem to fit the CvtW style very much and looked more fighting for a more traditional VS-style game. And that Mewtwo super was way too long. I’m also fairly certain that was my Mario in there, which immediately made me smell ‘compilation’, which isn’t a very good sign.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 29, 2020, 02:30:39 am
Post by: dakidbanks on September 29, 2020, 02:57:50 am
Post by: PBRTODD101 on September 29, 2020, 03:38:36 am
Also I really don't think you're a bad fit for Falcon. You sound british enough and you have enough experience voicing characters for your voice to avoid sounding amateurish.
Post by: Nemuresu on September 29, 2020, 04:06:50 am
First and foremost, I think we should know if his content actually has quality. Its easy to make them look good in a video montage, but the gameplay is another thing. Maybe Sean could work together with him or he could just continue his own stuff and call it "Capcom vs The World Official 2020 update".
I kind of know a little bit of his quality. He once shared at MMV a bunch of chibi characters years ago and his work wasn't bad at all, or so do I remember. I'm gonna try to see if I can find those so people can have a better judgement. Needless to say I don't think it'd be wrong if Sean wanted to collaborate or have his assistance, nor do I think there's anything wrong with telling him that there's another update by the original creator so long as it's not with malicious intents.
EDIT: Found 'em (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w71QXPPNog4). MMV links are mostly dead, but it seems he's still been updating the project at YT.
BTW, I don't know why I didn't say this before, but I really don't see anything unfitting or bad about your british voice, Sean. It's not your greatest voicework IMO (that'd be Exile), but there's nothing bad about Falcon at all. Then again, my best references for british voices are hearing the likes of Jim Sterling, CreepsMcPasta and MasakoX, and my voice imitations of them are not really good, so what do I know.
Post by: GreenZed on September 29, 2020, 04:48:20 am
I’m also fairly certain that was my Mario in there, which immediately made me smell ‘compilation’, which isn’t a very good sign.
I'm also getting this kind of feeling. I'm no Mugen creator, but I'm pretty sure there's no way all those newcomers are coded from scratch, they must be edits. I mean, you didn't include all of Memo's edits in the past as that would result, as Steel Komodo correctly put, in a bloated mess. Also having hi-res characters such as Yamatos DMC4 Dante and Yamakichis/Infinites Cloud is just wrong, they clash with the rest of the cast horribly.
Though I must admit, the changes he made to Squall (showcased in a separate video on his channel) didn't looked half-bad.
I hope this version of the game won't prevent you from further updating your own version, I'm kinda afraid it will turn into another CVTW2 situation.
EDIT: Oh, and he also missed the latest dampirs KOFXIII K' update for the game.
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 29, 2020, 05:39:50 am
I’m also fairly certain that was my Mario in there, which immediately made me smell ‘compilation’, which isn’t a very good sign.
He's also using the Z2 Goku.
Post by: YugaCurry on September 29, 2020, 08:13:18 am
Post by: dakidbanks on September 29, 2020, 08:44:19 am
Post by: AVPboy on September 29, 2020, 04:06:51 pm
Sean’s not asking if he should work with them, he’s asking if he should tell the guy working on this version of the game about the update he’s doing.
Personally, I think you should let the guy know you’re working on your own update. I would also advise against letting him offer to ‘help’ with your version - he's clearly doing something different with this version and it’d be better for you to stick to your own vision here. Unless, of course, there’s anything you explicitly want to adapt from his version. That’s up to you, of course.
That's literally the same opinion i have Sean, my only difference would be to propose to "mix" his work and yours into a single hodge podge, or maybe something more like receiving some help from him for your version, even so, please, stick to your vision, it's your idea and your game after all, my only problem with his version is that he took out some of your artwork in the lifebar portraits and that maybe some new things are slightly exaggerated compared to the solid stablished gameplay, just saying.
Anything beyond that, it could expand the game way further with those sweet newcomers (specially Spider-Man & Terry Bogard), hehe, you can do this Sean, do the right thing with your time and life.
I'll stay tuned & you guys stay safe, cheers.
Post by: XANDERAC on September 30, 2020, 12:04:33 am
Post by: Sean Altly on October 02, 2020, 06:17:59 am
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Also, check it out, surprise, I've been working on Mario Mario for the last several days straight and have made huge progress, he has a voice, FX, all of his supers, the whole shebang. He just needs a few bugs worked out and an AI. Here's an arcade run for you all to check out:
Here's his updated movelist:
COMMAND NORMALS:
-Monkey Wrench - F+HP - A slow overhead wrench attack
SPECIALS
-Tool Time - QCF+P - Mario tosses a random tool in an arch at his opponent. Strength of button changes the trajectory.
-EX Version - Tosses two hammers at different arches, much like the Hammer Bros. from the games
-Fireball Gun - QCB+P - Mario uses one of Dinohattan's fireball guns. Slower than your average fireball special but causes knockdown
-EX Version - Mario fires two fireballs in quick succession
-Thwomp Stomper - DP+K - Mario uses his Thwomp Stomper boots to launch into the air and down onto his opponent with a mighty stomp.
-EX Version - Faster, hits downed opponents and its distance can be controlled by holding forward or back like SFV Alex's stomp
-Ba-Bomb - QCB+K - Mario sets down a little ba-bomb. It wanders around, and when it's close to an opponent, it goes into detonation mode and blows up after a second or two. Can hit downed opponents. Can seem hard to use at first but it's meant to make the opponent nervous.
-EX Version - This move has no EX version.
-Dino-Flatten - QCF+K - Mario lunges forward with a big belly bump attack and follows it with a Thwomp Stomper-assisted front kick. He wasn't originally planned to have this special but when I was testing in arcade he desperately needed some sort of offensive maneuver that he could use for pressure and combos.
-EX Version - Has less start-up, travels further and does more damage.
SUPER MOVES:
-L1 - Big Water Damage - QCF+S - A pipe bursts from the ground in front of Mario. He attempts to fix it, but his wrench breaks and a huge geyser of water blasts diagonally for big damage.
-L1 - That's a Big Ba-Bomb - QCB+S - Mario pulls a huge ba-bomb out of nowhere and sets it down at his feet. Unlike the small ba-bombs, this one marches straight forward and explodes if it comes close to or is touched by the opponent.
-L3 - The Super Mario Brothers - DP+S - Mario rushes forward and hits a belly bump. If it connects, the opponent is dizzied, and Mario and Luigi both attack with a Devo Gun, until they're interrupted by a ba-bomb that has just made its way around to the opponent (based on the climax of the movie)
Feedback welcome!
As I was typing up this moveset I realized he has no UT. Whoops! Any ideas?
Post by: XANDERAC on October 02, 2020, 06:59:25 am
(https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/50/52900.png?updated=1460960176)
Post by: PBRTODD101 on October 02, 2020, 07:07:28 am
Also I wanted to suggest this little gem by ExShadow, to accomodate Fiona and Jotaro. One of my fave stages back in '11
(http://i.imgur.com/Kdr2gA9.png)
Unfortunately I can't seem to find a link to this stage that isn't from Mugen Archive, which I'm pretty sure that I'm not allowed to link. Hope you'll consider this stage though, I don't think it's based on any existing game.
Post by: GreenZed on October 02, 2020, 11:04:01 am
and I guess the only thing I might do is hit him up for his builds of the characters I haven't started yet (like Jedah and JoJo) to save myself some time, which I hope he's cool about since he's building off my project.
If you going to do that, don't forget to make sure whether they are edits or not, just in case you have to credit the original author(s).
Also I wanted to suggest this little gem by ExShadow, to accomodate Fiona and Jotaro. One of my fave stages back in '11
Unfortunately I can't seem to find a link to this stage that isn't from Mugen Archive, which I'm pretty sure that I'm not allowed to link. Hope you'll consider this stage though, I don't think it's based on any existing game.
There you go. (https://mega.nz/folder/309ySC5L#r7eVXVIK7KanbVw5DQnYYw/folder/PhUkAR7J) The stage is called Creepy Forest Night.
Post by: AVPboy on October 03, 2020, 09:54:00 pm
(https://i.postimg.cc/90SFPx4M/avatar31163-53.gif) (https://postimages.org/) (https://postimages.org/)
Post by: Nemuresu on October 04, 2020, 02:22:37 am
Post by: Sean Altly on October 04, 2020, 04:20:36 am
A little something i found, as a suggestion, you may want to edit it or something Dear Sean, the author is DDougTanker:
(https://i.postimg.cc/90SFPx4M/avatar31163-53.gif) (https://postimages.org/) (https://postimages.org/)
That's incredibly nice spriting and animation but then I'd have to edit the entire spriteset to match it and honestly I'm fine with the current sprites. That does undeniably look better though.
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That creepy forest stage is pretty nice, I just downloaded it to check it out, I may keep it depending on whether it fits the vibe once I add it.
For right now I've made Mario's UT the Ba-Bomb, it kind of works well that way, I also upped it from a max of two at a time to three, but that Might be a bit much, I'll have to do some testing. I also don't hate the idea of a Luigi assist, just depends on if I feel like spriting it since he has very limited animations right now and would need something all new.
Post by: XANDERAC on October 04, 2020, 05:32:42 am
Post by: GreenZed on October 04, 2020, 07:29:42 am
Riverside: (https://mega.nz/folder/309ySC5L#r7eVXVIK7KanbVw5DQnYYw/folder/78lykQYK)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Dragon City: (https://mega.nz/folder/309ySC5L#r7eVXVIK7KanbVw5DQnYYw/folder/r48yCZJS)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
This one uses concept art by Ucchiey, probably should credit them if you end up using it.
Japan Mountains: (https://mega.nz/folder/309ySC5L#r7eVXVIK7KanbVw5DQnYYw/folder/C88HyLZK)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Couldn't find original release thread, so I'm not 100% sure it's original, but it seems to be, I can at least recognize floor, which appears to be from KoF XIII.
Rainy Day: (https://mega.nz/folder/309ySC5L#r7eVXVIK7KanbVw5DQnYYw/folder/30VzGCCR)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
This one uses original art by Ka92.
Personally, I would still like to see Midnight Skyline the most.
Post by: MotorRoach on October 04, 2020, 01:52:03 pm
A little something i found, as a suggestion, you may want to edit it or something Dear Sean, the author is DDougTanker:
(https://i.postimg.cc/90SFPx4M/avatar31163-53.gif) (https://postimages.org/) (https://postimages.org/)
You should've also looked a bit harder for who made it, because that's an old sprite animation I made years ago, not this Doug guy.
Post by: AVPboy on October 05, 2020, 04:59:58 am
A little something i found, as a suggestion, you may want to edit it or something Dear Sean, the author is DDougTanker:
(https://i.postimg.cc/90SFPx4M/avatar31163-53.gif) (https://postimages.org/) (https://postimages.org/)
You should've also looked a bit harder for who made it, because that's an old sprite animation I made years ago, not this Doug guy.
I'm sorry MotorRoach, it wasn't my intention.
Post by: Sean Altly on October 06, 2020, 07:32:45 am
So here's another arcade run, this time featuring Edward Falcon. I can tell from this playthrough the Stone system may need tweaked. Sometimes it seems easy to get all three stones, sometimes it seems impossible. Might need to make it carry over through rounds or make the moves that the Stones grant you even more powerful.
Post by: GreenZed on October 06, 2020, 05:40:39 pm
I can tell from this playthrough the Stone system may need tweaked.
Maybe Falcon can get Hurricane Aura with one power stone, Missile Launcher with two and Streak Dash with three, instead of collecting all three for all of them?
Post by: ChaosLumpy6 on October 13, 2020, 05:21:20 pm
Tails, Knuckles, Amy and Shadow is getting a Capcom vs The World Sequel
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/46e4e467-49d3-4cb8-91be-4c3296ed3f96/de6fxnx-ab767c3e-0a57-40ec-a59d-bcb64c02d08c.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNDZlNGU0NjctNDlkMy00Y2I4LTkxYmUtNGMzMjk2ZWQzZjk2XC9kZTZmeG54LWFiNzY3YzNlLTBhNTctNDBlYy1hNTlkLWJjYjY0YzAyZDA4Yy5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.90pmes7_86CGRXvQ4HeqpuN_KICF9bNPMj0JsIOkgrU)
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 13, 2020, 05:28:51 pm
Here you go
Post by: AVPboy on October 23, 2020, 05:55:28 pm
https://mugenguild.com/forum/boardseen./topics/14-originals-hires-stages-winmugen-hr--191429.msg2492352.html#new
As a Suggestion
Tails, Knuckles, Amy and Shadow is getting a Capcom vs The World Sequel
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/46e4e467-49d3-4cb8-91be-4c3296ed3f96/de6fxnx-ab767c3e-0a57-40ec-a59d-bcb64c02d08c.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNDZlNGU0NjctNDlkMy00Y2I4LTkxYmUtNGMzMjk2ZWQzZjk2XC9kZTZmeG54LWFiNzY3YzNlLTBhNTctNDBlYy1hNTlkLWJjYjY0YzAyZDA4Yy5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.90pmes7_86CGRXvQ4HeqpuN_KICF9bNPMj0JsIOkgrU)
For the love of Beef... just respect Sean's roster already, he has already decided it. Please, just, please.
Post by: Sean Altly on November 16, 2020, 01:36:43 am
I waited until I was 99% done with Illian's sprites to make any sort of preview for him, and here it is. His moveset has been finalized unless you guys give me any good ideas or recommendations. Feedback is welcome:
Some notes:
-He has a dash instead of a run because Last Bout won't have running
-The FX and sounds on his supers are meant for Last Bout, this version will have the standard CvTW stuff
-No UT yet, will probably be the Sphere special
-His L3 super with the big explosions and stuff is inspired by the SNK bosses and their penchant for unavoidable screen-filling supers
MOVELIST
COMMAND NORMALS
-Red Hammer - F+HP - Downward palm strike, overhead
SPECIAL MOVES
-Magnum Press - QCF+P - Dashing, energy assisted open palm strike
-EX - Catches the opponent and slams them against the wall, where they bounce out and up for a juggle
-Heaven's Gate - DP+P - Anti-air grab where he slams his opponent down with tremendous force, causing an energy explosion on impact
-EX - Almost no start-up and reaches very far
-Magnum Anvil - HCB+K - Jump-in grab ala Birdie or Alex in SFV, where he slams them down and then throws them into the wall behind him
-EX - Homes in and leaves more time for a juggle after the wall bounce
-Omnisphere - QCB+P - Generates a large energy sphere that lingers for a bit, then dissipates after a set time or if it hits a certain number of times
-EX - Releases two spheres at different distances
-Omnishift - An Akuma-like teleport move that only the AI can use to make him extra boss-like
SUPER MOVES
-L1 - Eruption Sphere - QCB+S - Throws an energy sphere diagonally towards the opponent's feet, which hits the ground and erupts into a vertical pillar of energy
-L3 - Magnum Opus - QCF+S - Big damage super where he does a full-screen Magnum Press, juggles with an Omnisphere and finishes with a super Heaven's Gate
-L3 - Iron Reign - DP+S - Raises his fist in the air and forms Omnispheres in a horizontal line above the opponent, then he drops them straight down, causing a big full-screen eruption of energy. Can't be avoided or interrupted, can only be blocked high.
Post by: XANDERAC on November 16, 2020, 03:46:57 am
Post by: GreenZed on November 16, 2020, 03:51:45 am
That being said is he russian or polish? 'cause if he is former, than as a native russian speaker I can barely understand him. Besides "Stanovitsya na koleni!" (which is wrong, by the way: it's "Stanovis' na koleni"), "Sphera", "Durak" and "Zabastovka (I think?)", I can't make sense of his lines.
Also, what stage is he going to use?
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on November 16, 2020, 03:58:45 am
I can’t wait to see what’s he’s like when he’s all finished up.
“His moveset has been finalized
unless you guys give me any good ideas or recommendations.”
Hm... Maybe something like a counter version of OmniShift
where he strikes a pose & then teleports behind the opponent if he’s hit?
Eh, i don’t know, that’s really all i got,
outside of maybe like an air command grab,
or like an air variant of Magnum Anvil or something.
By the way, what’s Illian’s backstory for Last Bout/CVTW?
I remember from the original Last Bout thread that
you said he’s a Russian arms dealer
who started (& entered) the Last Bout tournament
not only to find strong fighters for his army,
but also to prove to the world how strong he is.
Do i have that right?
Post by: Roasted Pheasant on November 16, 2020, 04:42:06 am
Either way I'm excited to hand out Eastern Block Beatdowns.
Post by: Sean Altly on November 16, 2020, 03:30:01 pm
Thanks!
@GreenZed
He's Russian, and I'm the one voicing him currently and I'm def not a native speaker. I just put simple one or two word phrases into Google translate and listened to their pronunciation and emulated as best I could. I thought it might be difficult to find a native speaker to do his voice so I just kind of went for it. The ones you said you understood were supposed to be "Kneel," "Sphere," "Fool," and "Strike." Some of the other ones he's saying were what google gave me for "Perish" "Now die" "Reign" "Attack" "I am God" and "Take this." I tried not to go past one or two words so it would be as accurate as possible but I figured it would sound bad to someone who speaks the language. Not sure which stage he'll use, trying to find a cool one for him that matches the style.
@DauntlessMonk7
I was thinking about making Omnishift his UT, since that would limit it from being abused. I also coded a move using filler sprites that was like a downward knee attack that you did in the air, that functions like T. Hawk's aerial dive special, but never fully sprited it because it felt like overkill.
And yeah his backstory is this, copied from the Last Bout thread from many years ago: "Illian would be the final boss of the game. He is a Russian political extremist who is amassing a personal army and plotting a coup. However, just after executing the initial stages of his plan, Illian delays things by allowing his pride and arrogance to take over, deciding to enter the tournament to prove that he is the best fighter in the world." For CvTW I assume he's just been transported to the fight planet like everyone else, but he's been wreaking more havoc than the others and needs to be stopped or something.
@Chris AKA AfterImage
Indeed, and the old thread had a different last name (Orlov) but I changed it to Federov because it's cooler and according to Google it's derived from a word meaning "God's gift." I'm glad you're excited bro, I plan on giving him an individual release.
SPEAKING OF INDIVIDUAL RELEASES
It is very clear at this point this update won't be done in 2020, so I am going to be releasing stand alone versions of the new CvTW characters as I go, like I did with Mario. Next is Falcon and I will be releasing him this week sometime. Thanks for sticking with me folks!
Post by: GreenZed on November 16, 2020, 04:28:28 pm
@GreenZed
He's Russian, and I'm the one voicing him currently and I'm def not a native speaker. I just put simple one or two word phrases into Google translate and listened to their pronunciation and emulated as best I could. I thought it might be difficult to find a native speaker to do his voice so I just kind of went for it. The ones you said you understood were supposed to be "Kneel," "Sphere," "Fool," and "Strike." Some of the other ones he's saying were what google gave me for "Perish" "Now die" "Reign" "Attack" "I am God" and "Take this." I tried not to go past one or two words so it would be as accurate as possible but I figured it would sound bad to someone who speaks the language. Not sure which stage he'll use, trying to find a cool one for him that matches the style.
"Kneel" would be "Stanovis na koleni/Становись на колени" or "Na koleni predo mnoi/На колени предо мной". Fool in russian (Durak) is male only, unlike it's english counterpart. Dura/Дура is female. I would suggest changing it to something else. Maybe Posmeshishe/Посмешище (You're a joke)? Strike is definitely not "Zabastovka/Забастовка", it's "Udar/Удар" (Google Translate done you dirty, it translated Strike not as a physical punch, but rather something like VA strike). "Perish" would be "Pogibni/Погибни" or "Sgin'/Сгинь". "Reign" is "Tsarstvie/Царствие". "Attack" would simply be "Ataka/Атака". "I am God" - "Ya - Bog/Я - Бог" or "Ya est' Bog/Я есть Бог". "Take this" is "Poluchai!/Получай!".
Also, it's probably doesn't really matter, but Illian is not a russian name. Not that I'm aware of, at least. You're probably thinking of Illya, which is also a SF3 Necro's actual name. But I guess Illian does sound russian-ish/slavic? I dunno.
So you've decided not to release this update in parts and moved it to 2021?
Post by: GalFord on November 16, 2020, 05:58:39 pm
Looking forward to the progressions as they come. It's a fun ride!
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on November 16, 2020, 08:14:04 pm
@DauntlessMonk7
I was thinking about making Omnishift his UT, since that would limit it from being abused. I also coded a move using filler sprites that was like a downward knee attack that you did in the air, that functions like T. Hawk's aerial dive special, but never fully sprited it because it felt like overkill.
And yeah his backstory is this, copied from the Last Bout thread from many years ago:
"Illian would be the final boss of the game. He is a Russian political extremist who is amassing a personal army and plotting a coup. However, just after executing the initial stages of his plan, Illian delays things by allowing his pride and arrogance to take over,
deciding to enter
the tournament to prove that he is the best fighter in the world."
For CvTW I assume he's just been transported to the fight planet like everyone else,
but he's been wreaking more havoc than the others and needs to be stopped or something.
Ahh, i see now.
And Omnishift as the UT sounds pretty good.
I'll be sure to check out Falcon, as well.
Post by: XANDERAC on November 16, 2020, 10:18:01 pm
Post by: dakidbanks on December 24, 2020, 10:59:10 am
Have some portraits!
(https://i.imgur.com/ZtrYNz7.png)(https://i.imgur.com/L93ITGK.png)
Also a win pose!
(https://i.imgur.com/85FyBPD.gif)
So it's looking increasingly like I won't be able to get out the original intended update of 12 characters by the end of 2020, making the whole "Capcom vs The World '20" thing kind of obsolete. A user on Youtube insisted I release a partial update and I normally would be like nah don't tell me what to do, but I think it might actually be an okay idea to go ahead and release what's done. So here in the next week or two I'm going to put out an update that will include Fiona, Falcon, Guy, Akuma, Goku, Bloodtide and Kung Fu Man, along with a new stage (probably that Skyline stage). Sorry I'm not further into this update but I'm really swamped at work and have been having time management and motivation issues.
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Also, what's your guys' opinion on this, something I found on Youtube last week:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjLsUm7QLhA[/youtube]
^^^NOT MY VIDEO OR UPDATE^^^
Looks like someone else has been working on a pretty substantial update to the game. This video was posted a month ago, and based on some of the stuff he says in the vid, maybe he doesn't know that I've been working on the game again? I mean he can do his own thing, I'm not complaining or trying to stop it because it looks pretty cool (aside from some clashing sprites IMHO), just looking for some thoughts on it.
Just a FYI, I see that guy released his update to your project with 54 characters if you were curious to check it out, see what he did and maybe pull a few for yours if you changed your mind. I haven’t downloaded it yet but I just randomly cameacross his release video
Post by: Sean Altly on December 25, 2020, 06:45:23 pm
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It's really not bad, and the music choices are very nice, although I really hate the clashing sprite styles with some of the characters. That was one of my main goals with this game was to make sure the sprites looked as uniform as possible, at least by Capcom's own standards (using CVS, CPS2 and CPS3 sprites with scaling). However, I think I may still contact him about using his versions of Jedah, Jotaru and maybe even Terry since they seem pretty solid for the system and I don't see a point in doing a bunch of the same work if I don't need to.
Post by: dakidbanks on January 02, 2021, 09:25:21 pm
Post by: 087-B on January 02, 2021, 09:41:02 pm
I downloaded it yesterday. I liked his takes on Mewtwo and Phoenix Wright as well
I can't lie in saying I'm a bit interested in checking this version out. Can you point me in its direction or drop me a link?
Post by: dakidbanks on January 02, 2021, 10:40:53 pm
I downloaded it yesterday. I liked his takes on Mewtwo and Phoenix Wright as well
I can't lie in saying I'm a bit interested in checking this version out. Can you point me in its direction or drop me a link?
Link in that description. I could see you making 6 button edits of Squall, Mewtwo, Phoenix and a few of the others