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Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 September 13, 2021, 11:03:14 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 am
 Board: Entertainment
I gotta say, it is frustrating when they outline why the loser wins while trying to defend their choice of victor.

Darkseid = multi-versal scaling to D.C. universe, which is extraordinarily bigger than Marvel's universe.  Celestials = multi-veral but to much smaller plains.  Iron Man = Celestials.  Batman > Darkseid.  I mean, come on guys.

Going for an Ant Man-styled kill on account of it being something Batman would not prepare for as well is also ridiculous.  The concept of whatever WOULD kill Batman would be something he could not prepare for it a sound idea, but Captain Atom is a thing.  I find it very hard to believe Batman would not have a countermeasure for microscopic foes.

Bleh.  Anyways, yeah, next fight, another D.C. vs Dragon Ball episode.  They're both more modernly popular but I never really liked either myself.  The animated movies I've seen don't exactly paint Reverse Flash at his max potential I would assume, but Death Battle's also previously said even Wonder Woman can catch Reverse Flash in his full run even while time is distorted.  If someone at her speed can fight and beat him, someone on Goku Black's level easily can too.  Question is if he can just go back to Goku Black's inception and just kill off weak-as-hell Zamasu?  Does Flash time-travel shenanigans let them access essentially Heaven and higher plains?  Because that's essentially what the Realm of the Kais is, the level above Heaven where the Gods of the Gods reside.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 September 04, 2021, 04:07:40 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 am
 Board: Entertainment
THAT would be stretching their leniency a bit too far.  Bloodbending is canonically the hardest form of sub-bending in the entire Avatar universe to do, never mind master, and Korra's had it happen to her a bunch of times but its never been something she's attempted to try as far as I can recall.  Unless there is some later season line where they say Katara taught Korra everything she knew, Korra would simply be missing the knowledge how to do it, Avatar State or not.  And she won't be getting it from any past Avatar's knowledge because it was only invented within Aang's frozen lifetime, to say nothing of the whole Dark Avatar storyline having her lose that connection anyways.

I'd say you'd also have the full moon issue, but A) Past Avatar DB episode Zuko vs MHA kid already told us the DB team's stance on solar/lunar cycles in a match; it's assumed these fights always take place on the bender's max potential.  Sozin's Comet or a full moon is in affect then.  But even if not because an Avatar can take advantage of both but both can't be active at the same time then B) Amon and such have already proven the rule from Last Airbender to just be a limitation that could be overcome and you can bloodbend any time.

So long to short is, if there's some line I don't recall where Katara taught Korra all her waterbending techniques (Which they MAY be, seeing Korra wasn't allowed to be taught the other forms until she mastered Waterbending under Katara) then yes, hypothetically Korra could just add that as another insta-kill maneuver.  Which is even more dangerous than the whole "You can no longer breathe" Airbending stuff.  But it's entirely hypothetical because Korra's never done it on screen and it's a black art and moral taboo to ever do it to begin with, something Korra wouldn't ever do even for minor usage, never mind killing with it.  Kinda rides that line of when is DB breaking character for a feat or not.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 September 03, 2021, 06:41:59 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 am
 Board: Entertainment
Well, I mean, why is straight-forward enough.  It's hype.  Akuma's a 7 out of 10, Oni's an 11.  It's Street Fighter shotos on steroids flashy stuff, it's Capcom's own Rare Akuma.  Animation team probably just wants to have fun making a blue troll shoot fireballs and jetting around.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 September 03, 2021, 05:49:17 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 am
 Board: Entertainment
Huh?  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.  Kenpachi would beat Oni, he just doesn't have fighting forever unlimited stamina.  I even brought up how the Asura's Wrath story with Ryu and Oni effectively boosted the SF cast for no real rhyme or reason other than to even out the playing field.

Hell, same thing with Madara to Aizen I mentioned before, would Akuma even be able to see Kenpachi? 
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 September 03, 2021, 04:49:03 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 am
 Board: Entertainment
If it's either Asura or Kenpachi, be assured neither of them will do any soothing of the beast to Oni.  Whoever Akuma is fighting, I would assume it's not propped up from the get-go to be one he will lose to explicitly because the opponent picked has that counter in tow.

I'm still going with it being Kenpachi because they both need more Bleach characters to show by now and they REALLY need to reanalyze that series' stats.  I know Death Battle isn't a stranger to low-balls but Jesus is putting Ichigo at "Oh, California-ish at his best" destructive range pretty damn low considering the multi-dimension fluff the Spirit Society runs into and the series final boss going all End Of The Universe.  I imagine a mid to high-tier character of the franchise like Kenpachi would fit around Oni's feats in Asura's Wrath.  Probably still lose the stamina battle but hey.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 September 03, 2021, 03:51:25 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 am
 Board: Entertainment
I wonder now what Death Battle would consider a "peak performance" version of Korra?  Season 1 or season 4?  Season 4 obviously has all her character progression across the series and giant mountain sized transformation and Energy Bending and whatnot, but before the Dark Avatar storyline Korra still had the connection to all previous Avatars at once, just like Aang before her.  I don't recall how strong Raava recovered and if they ever threw in a line at some point about their restarted Avatar lineage was stronger or weaker than the previous one?  Story theme-wise, I actually have to assume end of Season 2 till the end of the series Avatar State Korra would be weaker than where she started from.  Since a lot of the story is Korra having to live with her mistakes and not everything's going to be all right.

We had something similar before with All Might, where his Death Battle appearance wasn't even what shows up in that series at all, just a hypothetical max potential version of All Might that was lost prior to the series starting.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 September 03, 2021, 02:57:05 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 am
 Board: Entertainment
What are Oni's canon appearances?  Or at least, "what if" canon, since Akuma never actually goes full Oni in the story.  SF4, of course, and maybe Asura's Wrath, but does he show in SF5?  Didn't play it, only know they threw in Evil Ryu but Not Evil Ryu so admittingly I'm a bit out of touch with the story now.

I wonder if Oni will run into a similar issue that Fierce Deity Link had, where the majority of appearances count as non-canon, and the canon stuff is intentionally vague per the game's story.  Fierce Deity had his whole manga short story about being an ancient god who'd play music without end which cause Majora (The original one, not the mask) to dance until it died of exhaustion.  From which the mask was made out of Majora's flesh carved.  None of that came up at all in the Link/Cloud episode because they don't count the Zelda manga at all.  Same with Hyrule Warriors.  But what's left in the end is just you get the mask, having the power of all the others in the game and you can kill Majora in, like, three hits.

If Oni's only canon material is his SF4 opening cutscene, ending cutscene and I guess the lore tidbit of this being Akuma no longer holding back the urge to kill every living thing in sight, it'll probably drastically cut his power in their scaling where he no longer can, say, dropkick the moon in half.  And that's why I say maybe to Asura's Wrath because even in that story it's treated as a dream match equalizing the power between the two. (three, really, Ryu is there somehow breathing on the moon)
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 September 03, 2021, 02:24:12 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 am
 Board: Entertainment
Strength level to strength level?  I doubt Korra's changing the whole planet, though Spirit World nonsense I wouldn't put it past them finding some statement, especially if Toph can sense and move things globally in LoK and she's lesser than an Avatar State character.  No, I'm thinking more insta-kill junk.  Denying Storm the ability to breath any more, dismissing any clouds, water or air, hell, turning the clouds against Storm making them solid or just another element.  Redirecting lighting right back at her targeting vital internals, etc.

Regardless of how powerful Storm is, granting Korra carte blanche rules to kill letting them just do what Zaheer the villain does removing air out of someone's lungs and the ability to get it back kinda hinders Storm, what with needing to breathe and all.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 September 03, 2021, 12:47:54 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 am
 Board: Entertainment

So, Death Battle's back soon.  9/12.  Showed off some future matches.

So off the bat, surprised Batman vs Iron Man is a sprite battle.  Really seemed they were going 3D for that.  Beyond that one that we know of is coming next, we got the mandatory joke episode, Macho Man Randy Savage versus Kool-Aid Man.  Sure, whatever.  They also show Street Fighter's Oni, Avatar's Korra and Bleach's Aizen.

Oni can and likely means Akuma in general, just going up into Oni and that whole spilt non-canon stuff.  I'm assuming it's either Asura of Asura's Wrath just because it's a Capcom "What if" they've already messed with before, or else it's Bleach's Kenpachi because the Death Battle team themselves have a weird rivalry between the two.  An Akuma/Kenpachi actual Death Battle would be my personal preference because the more exotic the match-up the more interesting it is rather than two with similar powers, but it's probably Asura because that's the fan favoirte.

Korra is hands down matched with X-Men's Storm because the DB team has brought up this match as one they've wanted to do prior and have had polls on it/discussed it.  It's probably a stomp in Korra's favor though??? But whatever, they've made questionable episodes before.

Aizen I think is Naruto's Madara?  But that's just hearsay on my end seeing it in the comments over and over and over.  I dropped reading Naruto before Madara was even a thing so I have zero idea what his powers and moves are.  He's the one in the traditional Japanese armor with the wind fan, yeah?  No idea how he stacks to Aizen, I'd assume going off the Naruto/Ichigo episode he legit can't even fight Aizen but I'm too ignorant to answer that.

There's someone from the 26-28 second mark in a destroyed modern day city with a 30-ft. length cape that I have no clue who the hell is, so them too.
    

Re: Nickelodeon All Star Brawl

 September 02, 2021, 10:59:50 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Nickelodeon All Star Brawl (Started by walt July 13, 2021, 07:39:39 pm
 Board: Fighting Games
There were three Avatar franchise stages supposedly shown.  And the assumption so far is also that there's one stage per character to match.  So unless the non-Korra stage is a transitioning one through the four kingdoms of Last Airbender's era then we still have an Earthbender character to get announced.  Who shouldn't be too hard to guess who.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
    

Re: Everything Anime and Manga Thread

 September 02, 2021, 10:44:18 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Everything Anime and Manga Thread (Started by ( ﾟ oﾟ) It's Urza! August 27, 2007, 02:30:58 am
 Board: Entertainment
Kirishima said, September 02, 2021, 04:17:11 pm
Pokémon Generations is finally getting a new set of episodes under a new name "Pokémon Evolutions"
Yay.

Kirishima said, September 02, 2021, 04:17:11 pm
Alola episode takes place during Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon where Lillie and Lunala encounters Lusamine with Necrozma appearing.
Boo.

With Generations prior, I was so looking forward to the continuation after its success to see what we'd get with gen 7, since we stopped at gen 6.  And was certain we'd get, what I guess is just my opinion now, one of the two most interesting nuggets of sub-plot they dropped in the games; either Guzma getting physically abused by his dad beating him with golf clubs and his running away eventually leading to his Team Skull misfit gang, or else my preference we'd get the follow-up to regular Sun/Moon's story ending on Lillie now being in charge of her mentally ill mother taking her to Kanto for whatever medical/physical treatments.  You know, the interesting stuff the games tease but can't possible follow up on in the games?

Bleh.  The Ultra games may throw in a random interesting lore bit with hey, Pokemon universe has sentient alien humanoid species that have their own little Pokemon world adventures and world-ending god mishaps like us, but they cut out all the good stuff from the original gen 7 games and Necrosma doesn't nearly stack up.

Oh well.  Anyways, the Kalos episode is unusual.  So far, it seems the set canon choice of gen 6 is Y, Lysandre gets Yveltal.  Which would of course be the one that makes more sense with his whole plan anyways, him with Xerneas is working backwards, but whatever.  Gen 8's supposed canon is also Sword with Gloria getting Zacian, but seems they're intending otherwise here.  Speaking of which, wow Leon do you look like you're from a different anime series altogether now.
    

Re: Nickelodeon All Star Brawl

 September 02, 2021, 04:04:01 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Nickelodeon All Star Brawl (Started by walt July 13, 2021, 07:39:39 pm
 Board: Fighting Games
I guess the lack of basic back air attacks on most of the cast suddenly make CatDog's back and forward air attack make more sense now.

Would seem to me then you would need to even more emphasize facing your enemy in this than Smash, which can make edge guarding a bit more challenging for those with more limited up+B recoveries.
    

Re: Nickelodeon All Star Brawl

 September 02, 2021, 12:49:00 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Nickelodeon All Star Brawl (Started by walt July 13, 2021, 07:39:39 pm
 Board: Fighting Games
Seeing the picture in full, the difference in cartoon art style between shows makes me snicker a bit when Lincoln is probably around Aang's age at the beginning I assume yet reaches only about his knees in height.

April looks dead inside.  Everyone else has got their dynamic pose and expression on their face, she's just coming across as "Kill me".
    

Re: gaming news that don't deserve their own thread

 August 28, 2021, 10:18:32 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in gaming news that don't deserve their own thread (Started by Titiln October 30, 2011, 05:13:58 pm
 Board: Gaming
I won't say I don't like it, but I will say as someone who has played each of Saints Row 1-4 one time each when they were new then promptly forgot about them, it doesn't particularly remind me of Saints Row and doesn't draw me in to want to play regardless.

As I recall, the Saints Row franchise has a fan base split because of the drastic changes in scope from 1-2 to 3 and 4 respectively.  They started as gang on gang violence GTA clones, 2 threw in some more goofier side missions like septic tank fire trucks or whatever, but then 3 went your gang versus the entire U.S. government, which upon winning warfare against the entire military you then win the election polls and become president somehow as I recall.....?  Then 4 goes full-on cartoon and mixes both alien invasion of Earth and digital worlds with superpowers.  They were a far cry from the GTA San Andreas copy they started as.  Then there's the Gat out of Hell one that I didn't play but appears to be this time your gang versus Hell because sure, of course.

This just seems to go back to the first two titles, probably more akin to 2 than 1, but not as offensively funny.  Which is probably what people who miss those titles actually want, because 3 and 4 as I recall were less South Park raunchy comedy than their predecessors.  Though that said literally the only jokes I recall are the gang members singing in your car with you while you drive around.



So eh.  I had more fun with 3 and 4 just for its intentional stupidity than the first two but they got their fans and I'm guessing this won't exactly replicate their feeling.
    

Re: Nickelodeon All Star Brawl

 August 27, 2021, 04:50:43 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Nickelodeon All Star Brawl (Started by walt July 13, 2021, 07:39:39 pm
 Board: Fighting Games
I mean, hasn't shown outside the very obvious silhouettes, Ba Sing Se and the Harmonic Convergence we've already seen.  Aang and Korra are all but actually fully revealed by this point.

Now, of course, watch as the developers really put their claim of outlandish character choices to the test and it turns out the silhouettes are Jinora and Mai just to throw us all through a loop.
    

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: THE END (until the next movie comes out)

 August 27, 2021, 12:21:01 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Marvel Cinematic Universe: THE END (until the next movie comes out) (Started by Iced July 15, 2012, 03:54:44 am
 Board: Entertainment
I mean...I thought that was what was interesting about this Loki?  Explicitly he's NOT the one that went for a redeeming death in at least the eyes of his brother, but one that wants to do good in some other manner with his insight on the now bigger picture at play.  It wasn't just negating the events of the opening to Infinity War with a Get Out Of Jail free card and TVA Loki gets a redemption arc in a different direction by seeing what happened to Main Loki.  I dunno, I liked it.
    

Re: Nickelodeon All Star Brawl

 August 27, 2021, 12:07:51 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Nickelodeon All Star Brawl (Started by walt July 13, 2021, 07:39:39 pm
 Board: Fighting Games
Huh.  CatDog has Minecraft Steve's minecart move.  Well, they wear their Smash inspiration on their sleeve after all, it's not that big a shock.  I was mostly hoping for X-J9 because Jenny most likely will be this game's Samus clone and I main Samus, so seeing something random like that isn't that wild.

Nothing against April, but I'm kinda surprised that the non-Turtle or villain TMNT pick wasn't Casey Jones.  The hockey jockey vigilante is pretty much made for goofy fights like these.

Wait, strike that about CatDog, upon closer inspection I think that's a stage hazard.  Whoops.
    

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: THE END (until the next movie comes out)

 August 26, 2021, 11:00:12 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Marvel Cinematic Universe: THE END (until the next movie comes out) (Started by Iced July 15, 2012, 03:54:44 am
 Board: Entertainment
To be completely fair on my end, I skipped a number of MCU films and am mostly just in it for the ride.  I'm not super stressed if and when they get something wrong like that.  Because yeah, I had also wondered about that, why the Marvel movies are for some reason trying to make multiple different time travel rules?  My ultimate guess is because they noticed the ones they came up with for Endgame doesn't make sense for old man Steve to be there.  I'm assuming some throwaway line in Loki season 2 or something will explain why he needed to be there for the Sacred Timeline or some junk.

Loki the show by itself though was just a fun time, regardless of its connection issues with what films came before.  Tom Hiddleston continues to be am amusing actor for the role.  I kinda legit forgot it was Owen Wilson playing Mobius because I just picture him in Wedding Crashers or Starsky & Hutch so thought he was good here as well.
    

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe: THE END (until the next movie comes out)

 August 26, 2021, 10:45:00 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Marvel Cinematic Universe: THE END (until the next movie comes out) (Started by Iced July 15, 2012, 03:54:44 am
 Board: Entertainment
Not to detract from the current MCU hype train speculation with the Spider-Man trailer, but I just recently got Disney+ so I saw the Loki series.  Just the one show, not sure if I'm jumping on the others yet but saw one episode of WandaVision and....it sure was odd.  But Loki's pretty good.

Not sure how intentional this is to the story going forward, but it feels very odd that none of the time manipulators in the various Marvel universes even know of this TVA though.  Considering the whole organization is run by basic bland humans with nightsticks and shock collars essentially, not even Marvel's encyclopedia of various superhuman aliens, and are prone enough to mistakes with their resets that they anticipate them happening.  Oh well.  Guess they weren't up for getting dressed up in Star Trek make-up for the background characters.
    

Re: Pokemon Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl + Pokemon Legends Arceus

 August 20, 2021, 12:54:49 am View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Pokemon Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl + Pokemon Legends Arceus (Started by Umezono February 26, 2021, 04:54:53 pm
 Board: Gaming
https://legends.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/growlithe/

So turns out Hisuian Growlithe is Fire/Rock type.  Alright.  That's neat enough I guess.

Kirishima said, August 18, 2021, 04:28:28 pm
New trailer for Sinnoh "remakes".  Literally the same as how they were in the DS games from Contest, Ball Stickers, no redesigns in key characters.  There are no Ranked battles meaning there is a strong chance the Dex will just consist of those found in the OG Sinnoh Dex.
While that is a likely possibility, seeing Game Freak hasn't gone back on their statements at the beginning of the gen 8 detail reveals about no future games having full pokedexes, I was more taking that to mean the lack of ranked battles means no dynamax to push the gen's new feature.  Which yeah, there was the whole lore thing making having it at all outside Galar pretty unlikely to begin with, but they can handwave that away as easy as they are for Pokemon Masters if they so pleased.
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