Thank you for using my characters and stuff. Greatly honored!

Also I have sad news.

I found out recently that GohanSSM2 has passed away.
Ace was a mugen hero to me, I looked up to his creations.
Its really hard to find his creations now (without some troublesome websites).

Your game including his characters is a blessing to me.

Rest in peace The Ace Man!

I remember when i did play DBZ SB2 for the first time...good memories !
I really had the 16 bit vibe playing this and i'm happy that you choose the keep the things simple.
Any chances for an Android 13 (this one can transform in Super 13) in this simplified style ?
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5s9FRpJEY[/youtube].
I suggest to put similar chars in the same slot (pretty easy in Ikemen) like Imperfect Cell (Semi Perfect Cell ?) and Perfect Cell. This would make the select screen even cleaner and cool.
The only thing missing is the split screen system, but this is to ask too much even for Ikemen Go engine.
Anyway thank you very much for share this gem with us. I loved the game.

vlad_alucard said, June 17, 2023, 09:10:36 pm

Why so high numbers?

vlad_alucard said, August 05, 2022, 05:05:55 pm

That's right, try making the Helper have an invisible animation and create a projectile that only lasts two ticks and stays in the Helper's position. But I only leave a trail of projectiles that disappear and worse still do not make contact with p2 and continue to destroy my LV1 supers

Well, this one is quite challenging. Did a little test and came up with a code for you. Worked for me so should also work if you've done everything correctly.
To make this work, you'd have to hide the actual projectile behind the helper projectile's sprite.
The steps are:

1. Your animation with the actual 'helper projectile' sprite in [statedef 1203] which is currently 1203 needs no collision boxes.
2. Make a 1 frame blank animation but have both collision boxes in it.  They should reflect the collisions that you currently used in anim=1203. This be used for your actual projectile animation
3. Have a projectile Hit animation.
4. Have a projectile cancel animation. This can be the same as the Hit animation.
5. Have a projectile remain animation. This should be a blank animation with no collision boxes.
6. You DO NOT NEED any Nothitby's, Hitoverrides or changestates as your animation shouldn't have collision boxes.

Then In your helper state [statedef 1203], Going by what you've posted,
your state should look like this (with the projectile and destroy self code):

Code:

;======================================
[Statedef 1203]
type=S
movetype=A
physics=S
anim= 1203
velset=0,0

;---YOUR PROJECTILE STATE CONTROL (these are mandatory parameters to make it work)-----
[State 1203, Projectile]
type = Projectile
triggerAll = !root,ProjContact=1,<20 ;---You can change the 20 to a higher value but leave first and see what happens.  
trigger1= !root,NumProjID(1203) && time%3=0 ;--->Only exist one at a time and only during every 3 ticks  don't change this else it will not work properly
ProjID = 1203 ;---->YOUR ID; should be set to 1203: same as this state
projanim = 1203 ;---->Use YOUR Animation Number  (must be blank anim with both collision boxes)
projhitanim = 1213 ;---->Use YOUR Hit Animation Number
projremanim = 1223 ;---->Use YOUR Animation Number (must be blank anim with no collision boxes)
projcancelanim = 1213 ;---->Use YOUR cancel Animation Number 
projremovetime = 2 ;--->Must exist for 2 ticks. Don't change this value as it's used to work with time%3=0
velocity = 0,0  ;--->Doesn't move so it can move with the helper
projpriority = 2  ;--->Any value lower than your Lv1 super.
;------------------The rest is the same as your original hitdef------
attr = S,SP        ;--->Changed to S,SP as it's a projectile so don't use S,SA
damage=40,10
getpower=0
givepower=0
hitflag = MAFD       
guardflag = MA        
pausetime=5,5
sparkxy=0,0
sparkno=s6002
guard.sparkno=s6002
hitsound=F0,2
guardsound=F1,0
ground.type=Trip
ground.slidetime=10
ground.hittime=15
ground.velocity=-1.5
air.velocity=-1.2,-3
guard.velocity=-5
fall=1
ignorehitpause=1
;---------------------The tracking code can be anything, it won't affect the interaction------

[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist X<0
x=-5

[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist X=0
x=0

[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist X>0
x=5

[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist Y<0
y=-3

[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist Y=0
y=0

[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist Y>0
y=3

;---------------MUST HAVE THE PROJ TRIGGERS TO DESTROY THE HELPER------------------
[State 1203, DestroySelf]
type = DestroySelf
trigger1 = root,ProjContact=1, <20  ;----Destroy if makes contact with Non-projectile elements such as players/helpers 
trigger2 = root,ProjCancelTime(0)=1  ;---Don't modify this or replace the (0) with anything as it should be 0.
trigger3 = FrontEdgeDist <-50  ;---Optional, this makes the helper destroy itself if goes outside of screen.
trigger4 = time =800  ;---This is your trigger
ignorehitpause = 1

;==================================================================

Try this and see if it works.

@The Jaquio: That code doesn't seem like it'll work as @vlad_alucard: is currently using a helper projectile and a standard non-helper projectile.  From what i'm reading, vlad isn't looking to make either projectiles have more than 1 hit each but at the same time, want's the lv1 to beat the helper.

So the way to work this out is to replace the hitdef sctrl in the helper with a projectile sctrl and have all the associated projectile animations.  Doing this won't affect the behaviour of the helper (it will still track) while having it gain the properties of an actual projectile to interact with your lv1 Super. 

The priority of a projectile only works against other projectiles with the projectile sctrl, so in your case since your tracking projectile only uses the Hitdef sctrl, it isn't classified as an actual 'projectile' and won't interact the same way.

You could either use a projectile sctr for your tracking helper and set a lower priority for it or make your lv1 super a 2-hit projectile by setting projhit = 2. Should work for what you want.

Ok, so "tracking helper" means that it follows P2? 
Next, your saying that the super projectile is still being destroyed by the "projectile helper" no matter how high the
propriority is?  Just trying to make sure I am following you correctly.

Steel Hammer is correct, the HitDef must be coded for what happens after it collides into a projectile. Or, in other words the helper needs a HitBy sctrl for projectiles.

I had to experiment with this lately.  I had to recode all of the helper projectiles in my game to hitdefs in order for Lei-Lei reflection move to look right. 
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdXp0UHKFu4[/youtube]


But yea, if you want to continue to Use the Hitdef for the projectile, like steel hammer said, it won't work unless coded properly.  If I am reading your question right lol.

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;Tsuiseki Helper1
[Statedef 1203]
type=S
movetype=A
physics=S
anim=1203
[State 1203]
type=PosSet
trigger1=Pos Y>-52
y=-52
[State 1203]
type=HitDef
trigger1=Time=0
attr=S,SA
damage=40,10
getpower=0
givepower=0
hitflag=MAFD
guardflag=MA
pausetime=5,5
sparkxy=0,0
sparkno=s6002
guard.sparkno=s6002
hitsound=F0,2
guardsound=F1,0
ground.type=Trip
ground.slidetime=10
ground.hittime=15
ground.velocity=-1.5
air.velocity=-1.2,-3
guard.velocity=-5
fall=1
[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist X<0
x=-5
[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist X=0
x=0
[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist X>0
x=5
[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist Y<0
y=-3
[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist Y=0
y=0
[State 1203]
type=velset
trigger1=P2Dist Y>0
y=3
[State 1203]
type=NotHitBy
trigger1=time>=0
value=,AA,AT
[State 1203]
type=HitOverride
trigger1=time=0
attr=SCA,NP,SP,HP,AP,NA,SA,HA,NT,ST,HT
stateno=1204
time=-1
[State 1203]
type=ChangeState
trigger1=movecontact=1
value=1204
ctrl=0
[State 1203]
type=DestroySelf
trigger1=time=800
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;Tsuiseki Helper2
[Statedef 1204]
type=S
movetype=A
physics=S
juggle=2
poweradd=0
ctrl=0
anim=1203
[State 1204]
type=VelSet
trigger1=time=0
x=0
y=0
[State 1204]
type=Explod
trigger1=time=0
trigger1=var(23)=1
anim=6002
pos=floor(P2BodyDist X),floor(P2BodyDist Y)
postype=p1
removetime=-2
vel=0.7,0
ontop=1
[State 1204]
type=DestroySelf
trigger1=time=0

;===============================================================================
;GekiretsuKodan
[Statedef 2000]
type=S
movetype=H
physics=S
poweradd=-1000
juggle=1
anim=2000
ctrl=0
velset=0,0
[State 2520]
type=Explod
trigger1=Time=1
anim=2010
ID=2010
pos=7,-52
postype=P1
removeongethit=1
removetime=17
scale=1,1
sprpriority=0
ontop=1
removeongethit=1
[State 2000]
type=PlaySnd
trigger1=AnimElem=1
value=S5,2
[State 2000]
type=PlaySnd
trigger1=AnimElem=2
value=F3,1
[State 2000] ;AntiHelperProjectile
type=Projectile
trigger1=AnimElem=2
Projanim=2533
projpriority=1
offset=44,-55
velocity=15,0
remvelocity=.7,0
velmul=1,1
attr=S,NP
animtype=Medium
guardflag=MA
sparkno=-1
guard.sparkno=-1
ground.type=Low
air.type=low
ground.slidetime=0
ground.hittime=0
ground.velocity=-12,-4
air.velocity=-2.5,-5.5
[State 2000]
type=Projectile
trigger1=AnimElem=2
Projanim=2015
projsprpriority=10
ProjHitAnim=6003
ProjRemAnim=6003
projpriority=15
offset=40,-55
velocity=15,0
remvelocity=.7,0
velmul=1,1
attr=S,NP
animtype=Medium
damage=150,5
guardflag=MA
pausetime=20,12
sparkno=-1
guard.sparkno=-1
sparkxy=0,0
hitsound=F0,3
guardsound=F1,0
ground.type=Low
ground.slidetime=15
ground.hittime=9
ground.velocity=-12,-4
air.type=low
air.velocity=-2.5,-5.5
air.juggle=3
fall=1
down.bounce=1
[State 2000]
type=ChangeState
trigger1=power=0
value=5300
ctrl=1
[State 2000]
Type=ChangeState
trigger1=time=50
value=0
ctrl=1

congratulations on your project, for me these old games are the best to play

I'm doing a hyper dimension remake

https://www.deviantart.com/bardockrevengedct/art/Hyper-Dimension-Coming-Soon-880109279

and i'm thinking about doing finalbout and ultimate batle 22


if you need any help...

I am the creator of old gokussj2 and majinvegeta ssj2
http://bardockrevenge.rf.gd/chars.html

vlad_alucard said, September 01, 2021, 05:44:35 pm

Can take the .exe from another mugen 1.1 and try it? the guys on the discord tells me what is safe

THanks! I will!

Actually, I know you have no bad intention, I was sjust not sure about the file itself since you had PC problems.
But yes, I'm glad I can try it!

Your project is a gem! I'm very glad to see an update!

EDIT : some feedback.
I finally tried the game after my antivirus freakout ^^;

Good :
-Awesome graphics, characters, stages (everything looks in 16 bits spirit)
-No flashy effects or similar stuff that make you out of the restro style.
-Extra characters
-Improved gameplay compared to the source games (amost impossible to do combos)
-intro, win quotes
-japanese voices !!! Thanks so much for not giving this game the horrible english dubbing voices (I can understand some like them)
-all musics (including snes ones) in Buyuu Retsuden/Megadrive style . Who did these musics ? is it some sound fonts edit ?

Bad/not that good :
-What happenend to kid Trunks (both his portrait and ingame sprites are very strange compared to the other characters)
-For some reasons, I feel like the Kai world music (from super butouden 3) is not that good in megadrive style
-With some characters, it's not easy to combo normal attacks (because of push back ?) For some, it's easier (Future Trunks, Dabura...)
-Some special moves connect weirdly (exemple adult Gohan's dive kick, some time kicks nothing after first kick)
-Not sure about the "result" music from HYper dimension. (It's good, but sounds definitly too SNES compared to the other themes)
-I regret the absence of some story mode based on the character selected. (but this is a Mugen problem)
-I suggest the video options to be set to default when you upload the game. (I struggled many minutes to remember how to set that) People not that used to mugen would give up very fast I think (?)

Suggestions :
Aftre playing this game with great roster, and great retro feeling, I felt like... I would like to see Bojack, Broly... alternate swaps of regular character too... I hope you can recover your PC and update again this incredible project.

In 20 years of Mugen, this is one of the very few games that makes me forget for some time I was playing a Mugen game!

It has been a long time and I have had many rejections between a damn Trojan on the pc and personal and family problems but here is finally the last public build and the best to date.

Majin Vegeta is a secret Char to use him keep Start+ A/B/C
Vegetto and Super Buu are hidden on the roster just keep going to bottom



https://www.mediafire.com/file/2dxhhjmzhyvykhq/DBZ.rar/file