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Title: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on December 06, 2018, 01:30:24 pm
The King of Fighters XV is being prepared for 2020 and is using the Unreal Engine.

(http://img.ruliweb.net/data/news19/12m/05/multi/snk18.jpg)

And It’s not certain, but MAYBE we can have KOF XIV in Xbox One and Switch in the future.

(http://img.ruliweb.com/data/news19/12m/05/multi/snk17.jpg)

Sources: https://twitter.com/TeamPowerGeyser/status/1070185155409661952

https://twitter.com/TeamPowerGeyser/status/1070385756965879808

https://twitter.com/gatoray_kof/status/1070505141772607488?s=19

Might as well start a new topic for this.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on December 06, 2018, 01:58:25 pm
I might wanna cross finger for the ash saga dream match just like kof98 and kof2002. NDSilva has already planned a roster for it in his Mugen project: http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/the-king-fighters-uncanny-match-185463.0.html but it include SNK vs. Capcom Chaos and Neogeo Battle Coliseum in it  :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 06, 2018, 06:22:01 pm
I know its confirmed, but I still think is really early for you to make a topic, after all, if its for 2020, its likely in early stages of development.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Retro Respecter on December 06, 2018, 08:16:37 pm
I'd have to agree. We don't even know who made the cut.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on December 06, 2018, 11:50:35 pm
Wait everyone, there are plans for a brand new Metal Slug game? Am I seeing it right!? o_O



I might wanna cross finger for the ash saga dream match just like kof98 and kof2002. NDSilva has already planned a roster for it in his Mugen project: http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/the-king-fighters-uncanny-match-185463.0.html but it include SNK vs. Capcom Chaos and Neogeo Battle Coliseum in it  :P
Just the chars that are related to KoF :P (and maybe Cyber Woo)

...thinking about it, how much work would it really be if they just make use of the KoF XIV engine/assets, for a dream match of this kind?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 07, 2018, 12:46:05 am
much more work than if they got back the UM team and sprited the new originla exclusive character in kof 14 to the old kof (mvs) style.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on December 07, 2018, 03:49:11 am
I might wanna cross finger for the ash saga dream match just like kof98 and kof2002.

Well....

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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on December 07, 2018, 05:14:16 am
maybe, but I was thinking like maybe they might did the same to the ash saga for kof12 being a dream match like after kof11 event then in kof13, they focus on the last ash saga :P anyway, it sounds good if they continue with the verse saga though
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: crimson_snow on December 10, 2018, 04:11:40 pm
I expect this to be announced in KOF's 25th Anniversary on August 2019.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nightwalker on July 24, 2019, 09:55:21 pm
Interesting, I would like to take a look
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 24, 2019, 11:12:02 pm
Interesting, I would like to take a look
Are you stupid?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on July 25, 2019, 01:04:07 am
Interesting, I would like to take a look
Are you stupid?
Alright I’m getting tired of your edgy shtick. Tone it down I’m only warning you once.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on July 26, 2019, 08:32:56 am
It's not even confirmed.
Why even bother?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 26, 2019, 05:29:11 pm
Yeah, the only semi-relevant kof news we have gotten lately is that we will have nests kyo, female billy, female yashiro and female/loli chang for snk gals fighters kof all stars.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 26, 2019, 06:52:33 pm
Yeah, the only semi-relevant kof news we have gotten lately is that we will have nests kyo, female billy, female yashiro and female/loli chang for snk gals fighters kof all stars.
Also, we have KoF For Girls, which is a dating sim. Btw, don't you mean Lily instead of female Billy? She is his actual sister, I think.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 26, 2019, 06:57:17 pm
Nope, female billy .

https://mmoculture.com/2019/07/the-king-of-fighters-allstar-japan-server-reveals-new-female-skins-for-1st-anniversary-celebrations/
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2019/jul/24/king-fighters-all-star-adding-tekken-characters-crossover-campaign-along-female-versions-billy-kane-chang-and-yashiro-nanakase/

(https://mmoculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-King-of-Fighters-Allstar-Japan-server-1st-anniversary-new-female-skins.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 05, 2019, 01:20:00 am
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1158138641253691392
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on August 05, 2019, 01:31:52 am
(https://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/EBKI8qkUIAEmO07.jpg)

Hopefully they won't show any game footage too early until they feel confident of releasing it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 05, 2019, 01:36:59 am
Excellent!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on August 05, 2019, 01:38:41 am
 :nuttrox: .
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 05, 2019, 01:41:19 am
Hopefully they won't show any game footage too early until they feel confident of releasing it.
I know people will bitch about everything they see even when they know it's still in progress, but the gaming community should really be aware of what development in progress means by now. I'd love to see game makers post obvious beta snapshots of their work every now and then without going through marketing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on May 26, 2020, 06:36:27 pm
This appeared on Facebook today, on a page called Mexico SNK, to me it looks fake, but we never know, supposedly a KOF XV proto/demo thing.



(https://scontent.ftij2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/100581749_3086924614663948_7720086315923931136_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_eui2=AeG0Aq-9J7U2EjROWU6LDHadUEhVkf_2LqVQSFWR__YupY97pece1pdhUsHsqnf4PrHLtLVVA6V4fkGFtuqnawV4&_nc_ohc=QgHMI1qhOCEAX--Fgih&_nc_ht=scontent.ftij2-1.fna&oh=3c8ea748ca8cfa82a73d083d508f88e6&oe=5EF28E9E)
(https://scontent.ftij2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/100508766_3086924664663943_2677033178358611968_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_eui2=AeE5PnRoGC5k0S-NnCYoWqYeygCf0cYOF5fKAJ_Rxg4XlypY9_-JuvDZEi3-X5cWnxSq7XWSpT6wyIrmFayRobKP&_nc_ohc=nVo0_rJEBJYAX9NTALs&_nc_ht=scontent.ftij2-1.fna&oh=b9e75193874ce8a9957a1a36c10dc4cc&oe=5EF1CC40)
(https://scontent.ftij2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/100660995_3086924674663942_3021358735088943104_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_eui2=AeHyRi8Jy6Wg9z_eBKWqROx8qeYynpCSxrKp5jKekJLGsgFh4rFv7MSjyLNr0R9wqXTMusrF9Nz-hA34yGANoiWt&_nc_ohc=CLDWOfIkTxgAX_RjFqq&_nc_ht=scontent.ftij2-1.fna&oh=09bf7bd307d5a0018f7d01293f51162f&oe=5EF33A60)
(https://scontent.ftij2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/100636302_3086924731330603_4524047378256232448_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_eui2=AeGW5XMAYSeERs4UOMbARAzb0Zhkj3r9oB7RmGSPev2gHru_beTwHD2Gl4tymzwYzXqjQfdNs591JQO2HZWIm6BW&_nc_ohc=9doCOgjsuv8AX9g_7Av&_nc_ht=scontent.ftij2-1.fna&oh=3e13c719185eb99e7ed337d4ab391237&oe=5EF3DAFF)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on May 26, 2020, 07:01:14 pm
Just looks like a simple Mock-up, seeing the stock backgrounds.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 26, 2020, 09:55:57 pm
Yes, these are all fanart.

People have been starving so much for news lately that they're believing every fake leak that shows up. A Brazilian fanpage even managed to fool people into believing they were official and spread quite some fake news before being unmasked.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on May 28, 2020, 06:07:22 pm
More than the backgrounds, what attracted me are the lifebars, they look legit to me (even for a fake)

I thought there would be some news here about the possible leaks about this game. The most sounded for me was the roster leak, which was discussed, especially in Latin American groups, I don't know if you got something about that

Now I found one with a supposely separated Story Mode apart of the Arcade Mode, like Injustice/new MKs or SFV (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/253394-the-king-of-fighters-xv/78622744) (original source here, in Japanese (https://www.reddit.com/r/SNK/comments/g62waw/kof_xv_real_leak/))
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 28, 2020, 06:37:28 pm
(original source here, in Japanese (https://www.reddit.com/r/SNK/comments/g62waw/kof_xv_real_leak/))
This is tries to be written like an actual press statement, except it's supposed to be a leak (and it has super weird phrasings). And it says absolutely nothing of interest. Fake with nothing that can even be discussed, not worth even spreading around.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on May 28, 2020, 06:48:32 pm
I know, but I thought something about that was discussed here before. The only interesting leak I read is about the character roster, mostly that the half of the roster comes from XIV with various additions from older games and some new characters. The leak message probably was deleted, but there were various videos about it on YT (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=king+of+fighters+xv) (mostly in Spanish)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Bastard Mami on May 28, 2020, 08:11:18 pm
the leak is fake as F, it surfaced years ago it was debunked, then recently someone tried to revive the exact same leak.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 28, 2020, 09:51:38 pm
And it wasn't even a leak to begin with, just some random guy's crappy wishlist.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on December 03, 2020, 03:15:23 pm
 :nuttrox:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on December 03, 2020, 04:37:00 pm
The real surprise is Maximum Impact being acknowledged.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on December 03, 2020, 04:57:27 pm
The real surprise is Maximum Impact being acknowledged.

hahaha xD
The new logo is way better than the previous one tho.

Kyo's new outfit is a huge improvement over his bland design and outfit in XIV.
Benimaru's outfit looks amazing. Also Shun'ei is now with them so probably no Daimon again or maybe he'll be on another team cause Ogura said that the assembly of the teams will be very distinguished in KOF XV.

Such a relief to see that SNK still paying attention to KOF XV.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 03, 2020, 05:10:37 pm
I wonder if the fact they brought specific attention to that means they'll add someone from that game. Because it felt so random to bring this specific aspect of the logo just to mention MI.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on December 03, 2020, 05:35:40 pm
Why on earth is Daimon replaced by Shun'ei?
Shun'ei's just a cheap crash grab of sweet Chinese money and now he's taking the spot of an OG/original member of the team.

Benimaru's Chinese attire just proves it.

SNK needs to stay original and stop catering themselves to the most popular community out there.

Stop being a sellout SNK.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 03, 2020, 05:49:50 pm
It wouldn't be the first time another character took the protagonist role (not just in this franchise, but in many others too), and Shun'ei isn't only popular in China (he is as much of a generic pretty boy as the others, ffs). Besides, one character wearing a chinese-inspired costume realistically means nothing, it's one character out of who knows how many.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mgbenz on December 03, 2020, 05:59:20 pm
Why on earth is Daimon replaced by Shun'ei?
Shun'ei's just a cheap crash grab of sweet Chinese money and now he's taking the spot of an OG/original member of the team.

Benimaru's Chinese attire just proves it.

SNK needs to stay original and stop catering themselves to the most popular community out there.

Stop being a sellout SNK.


Calm down son. They just showed these characters to show their new designs.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on December 03, 2020, 06:01:37 pm
I really like the new designs -- especially Benimaru's. It's so damn sleek and perfect and befitting of his character. <3

(Fingers crossed my main man Shingo gets confirmed.)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Seadragon77 on December 03, 2020, 06:07:50 pm
Maybe Kyo and Benimaru are taking the new kid under their wings since it always seems to be Kyo's team that wins the tournament, canon wise.

I'm hoping the reveal trailer does more. Don't get me wrong, teasers are nice and all... but I want to see how much work they put into this game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mgbenz on December 03, 2020, 06:17:04 pm
Quick flashes of Leona and K' can be seen on the teaser btw.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: orochi_kyo on December 03, 2020, 07:46:01 pm
Kof just became about Quantity over quality some years ago.

The only good thing SNK can do now is adding rollback netcode to KOF XIII.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on December 03, 2020, 09:34:53 pm
*Shows concepts of Kyo, Benimaru and Shun'Ei, people immediately assumes they're forming a team together.
*Quickly namedrops Maximum Impact just to make a point, people immediately assume there will be MI characters in the game.

Geez, when did the SNK fanbase turned into the Smash fanbase?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on December 03, 2020, 09:43:50 pm
*Quickly namedrops Maximum Impact just to make a point, people immediately assume there will be MI characters in the game.

Not gonna happend for sure and yeah, people are thinking that Alba or Luise will be in, but surely they'll not.

I forgot to mention that Ogura also said that this will be the most ambitious game of the franchise. Well, i hope for that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ZetaFlare3 on December 03, 2020, 10:02:57 pm
Honestly, I'd kill for Maximum Impact characters in another game. Lien and Mignon shoulda been in SNK Heroines.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mintloid on December 03, 2020, 10:09:12 pm
Why on earth is Daimon replaced by Shun'ei?

My guessings would be probably the teams are gonna be based on their designs/personalities or just to have consistency to how they look, for me I personally think Daimon just doesn't fit too well in the original team IMO. He is japan of course (duh), but I think aspect of both kyo, benimaru, and Shun'ei fits perfectly well considering they look like an actually team of heroes rather than one muscular master and two younglings which confuses me. I mean sometimes its just balanced like the other teams such as psycho soldier team, fatal fury team, NESTS team, and possibly more that look like they fit well, but all and all I just think Daimon is the only one that bothers me the most, still this doesn't mean he shouldn't be left out entirely.

While on a fun note, if this doesn't bring back The King of Dinosaurs, im gonna scream like The King of Dinosaurs! :V
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 03, 2020, 10:24:46 pm
Kof just became about Quantity over quality some years ago.
lol KoF 98UM and 02UM are references with a character count in the 50s and 60s.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 03, 2020, 11:48:50 pm
Kof just became about Quantity over quality some years ago.

The only good thing SNK can do now is adding rollback netcode to KOF XIII.
Pure bullshit. If you want to play your old games, go play old games, KoF XIV was excellent and your nostalgia can't change that.

*Quickly namedrops Maximum Impact just to make a point, people immediately assume there will be MI characters in the game.

Geez, when did the SNK fanbase turned into the Smash fanbase?
Wow, they made a mention of a detail that nobody gave a shit about only to mention something that people would care about. Gee, I wonder why?

Not gonna happend for sure and yeah, people are thinking that Alba or Luise will be in, but surely they'll not.
I'm sorry, what do you know? Are you in the dev team perhaps? It's, at least, quite arrogant, to presume you know something when you have absolutely no argument to sustain that.

EDIT: Let me add another thing: when you look at SNK, you see they revived SamSho after that stupid game whose name I forgot killed it, they brought in a bunch of lesser known characters in that sex-appeal-focused fighting game with girls and even in KoF XIV itself they brought two shitty lesser known characters to team up with Nakoruru. So yeah, there is, realistically, no logical reason for the idea of Maximum Impact characters returning to be treated as something so outlandish.
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on December 04, 2020, 12:27:24 am
I'm sorry, what do you know? Are you in the dev team perhaps? It's, at least, quite arrogant, to presume you know something when you have absolutely no argument to sustain that.

From what i follow this franchise since his whole beginning and saw what happend on Maximum Impact sub-series, i'm pretty sure that someone from MI will not be in KOF XV. And also because of one word about Maximum Impact. "Spinoff"
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 04, 2020, 12:36:17 am
From what i follow this franchise since his whole beginning and saw what happend on Maximum Impact sub-series, i'm pretty sure that someone from MI will not be in KOF XV. And also because of one word about Maximum Impact. "Spinoff"
Except none of that realistically proves a thing. The "spinoff" part is particularly irrelevant.
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on December 04, 2020, 12:37:36 am
My guessings would be probably the teams are gonna be based on their designs/personalities or just to have consistency to how they look, for me I personally think Daimon just doesn't fit too well in the original team IMO. He is japan of course (duh), but I think aspect of both kyo, benimaru, and Shun'ei fits perfectly well considering they look like an actually team of heroes rather than one muscular master and two younglings which confuses me. I mean sometimes its just balanced like the other teams such as psycho soldier team, fatal fury team, NESTS team, and possibly more that look like they fit well, but all and all I just think Daimon is the only one that bothers me the most, still this doesn't mean he shouldn't be left out entirely.
You got a young delinquent martial arts master (Ryouma), a cool ikemen (Hayato) and a big body judoka (Musashi). Classic team.
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on December 04, 2020, 12:58:57 am
*Shows concepts of Kyo, Benimaru and Shun'Ei, people immediately assumes they're forming a team together.
*Quickly namedrops Maximum Impact just to make a point, people immediately assume there will be MI characters in the game.

Geez, when did the SNK fanbase turned into the Smash fanbase?

I'm not sure when, but I'm uncertain why SNK hasn't even given MI characters cameos in not only the main series games, but almost anything (there do exist a handful of cameos in mobile games, for example), or for that matter the EX characters. And now they acknowledge the games directly, so speculation booms. By the way, the company they sold Love Heart (and several other pachinko characters/IPs) to, Highlights Entertainment, closed down in late 2019, and apparently its assets are owned by a medical company nowadays. SNK did use her under license until the closure happened. Any interest in buying her back, or is it a done deal?
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 04, 2020, 01:02:30 am
From what i follow this franchise since his whole beginning and saw what happend on Maximum Impact sub-series, i'm pretty sure that someone from MI will not be in KOF XV. And also because of one word about Maximum Impact. "Spinoff"
Except none of that realistically proves a thing. The "spinoff" part is particularly irrelevant.

Bet you $20 through Paypal that there won't be a MI character in XV. Deal ? If no deal, shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 04, 2020, 01:14:43 am
Bet you $20 through Paypal that there won't be a MI character in XV. Deal ? If no deal, shut the fuck up.
I'm sorry, why the hell would I shut up? You, so far, didn't offer a single evidence or an argument to defend your nonsensical logic, so excuse me for not changing my mind just because some random ass guy on the internet wants me to.
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 04, 2020, 01:26:57 am
So no deal then, you can't put your money where you mouth is.
There won't be any MI character in XV. If you disagree, you prove it.
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 04, 2020, 01:33:03 am
So no deal then, you can't put your money where you mouth is.
There won't be any MI character in XV. If you disagree, you prove it.
So, everyone has to bet money with you to have an opinion now? That's not how things work, Your Highness, you're not that important. Also, yet again you offer no argument and no evidence, yet I'm somehow supposed to offer proof. Who the fuck do you think you are?
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 04, 2020, 01:38:44 am
So, everyone has to bet money with you to have an opinion now?
Says the dipshit harassing someone for saying their experience with the entire franchise makes them think MI will not be added to XV, calling them arrogant for saying something you don't like. Stop being such an asshole. Who the fuck do you think YOU are ? What the fuck do you think you're doing right now ?
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Joey S. on December 04, 2020, 02:05:20 am
>mfw two grown men argue over Max Impact characters being in KOF XV
 :shocked2:

Jokes aside, I unironically enjoy Max Impact. It's not likely but it'd be cool to see someone like Mignon Beart or Soiree Meira added.
New logo looks dope, Kyo gets parts from his best designs back, Beni looks like he stole Luong's clothes (but it fits him well) and Shun'ei still looks like trash lmao

Very excited for more news on the game. I just hope they actually animate Kim's pants this time.
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 04, 2020, 02:16:45 am
Says the dipshit harassing someone for saying their experience with the entire franchise makes them think MI will not be added to XV, calling them arrogant for saying something you don't like. Stop being such an asshole. Who the fuck do you think YOU are ? What the fuck do you think you're doing right now ?
Experience in what, exactly? Becuase so far, nothing he said counters what I said, and neither do you. Also, yeah, he is arrogant for saying that something won't happen when he has no idea if it will or not, it IS arrogant because he says that as if he is somehow part of the dev team. Stop being an asshole yourself, you hypocrite, you are the one who started insulting me for no reason and demanding money as if you can charge me for having a fucking opinion. This is a DISCUSSION forum, I don't have to follow what you think, Your Highness, I can contest it and I sure as hell can disagree, and nothing you say will change that.
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 04, 2020, 02:55:31 am
Why is it a discussion when you're talking, but when anyone gives an opinion about what will be in the game or not that you don't like, they're arrogant and hypocrites and talk like they're in the dev team and they have to show proof ? Stop harassing people and shouting at people for having an opinion and trying to get into fights.
And I didn't demand any money, I offered you a bet to show what you believe and you pussied out. Is it the money part that bothers you ? What if I change the bet and when you lose, you have to put this in your signature for 2 months :
Quote
Byakko is my Lord and master and I'm an idiot who is incapable of shutting the fuck up and stop screaming at other people over their opinion about what will be in a future game
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 04, 2020, 03:33:41 am
Jesus Christ, you're really full of yourself, aren't you? Since you're incapable of doing anything other than insulting others, then I won't bother trying to discuss anything, because you and your ego are clearly not here for that.
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 04, 2020, 03:38:09 am
I'm here to give my opinion that KoF XV will not have any MI character.
I won't lose sleep if it does, but I don't think it will. Alba has nice moves but I think all the other new characters have shit designs and shit moves. Except Chae Lim, she was really nice.
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkseid DC on December 04, 2020, 05:13:07 am
Kof just became about Quantity over quality some years ago.

The only good thing SNK can do now is adding rollback netcode to KOF XIII.
Pure bullshit. If you want to play your old games, go play old games, KoF XIV was excellent and your nostalgia can't change that.
No need to respond aggressively to others opinions like "pure bullshit"

Not gonna happend for sure and yeah, people are thinking that Alba or Luise will be in, but surely they'll not.
I'm sorry, what do you know? Are you in the dev team perhaps? It's, at least, quite arrogant, to presume you know something when you have absolutely no argument to sustain that.
He is talking about probabilities, they are not so well-known characters in the franchise, it is not arrogance


About the game, glad they turn Kyo appearance more like the previous games before KOF XIV
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on December 04, 2020, 01:20:47 pm
digging benimaru's design. and sad there's no colour cause shun's colour theme in 14 is lame.

i'm looking forward to the ikari warriors look , i want beef cake ralf and clark back and probably a buff terry bogard like in 13.
Title: Re: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on December 05, 2020, 01:37:17 pm
Seems legit: https://twitter.com/ViolentKain/status/1335134216565092352  :lol:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on December 07, 2020, 08:45:09 pm
Two characters considered for XIV but didn't even make it to DLC were Jack Turner and John Crawley from AOF. Are they perhaps contenders for a slot in this one, given that even Hwa Jai and Richard Meyer each made a comeback before fading back into the shadows? Blame Days of Memories for attractive ladies not up-and-vanishing after a return appearance. In SNK Heroines, the only non-guests that used new models were Shermie and Jeanne, so they could easily show up in XV if they keep re-using models. A World Heroes character in KOF proper would be a game-shaker (Even KOF XI's hidden characters were all first-party SNK characters) for the series, though. And about the MI cast, even if they were kinda lame, SNK could retool them to be better.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on December 08, 2020, 05:34:58 pm
The King of Fighters 15 will be a 'supreme masterpiece' for the series says SNK producer, rollback netcode mentioned but not confirmed: https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2020/dec/08/king-fighters-15-masterpiece/

With some already dead characters emerge from Verse, it is no surprise  ::)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on December 08, 2020, 06:08:13 pm
the last Kof looks like from ps3 so i hope an improvement for this one
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 08, 2020, 06:37:28 pm
The King of Fighters 15 will be a 'supreme masterpiece' for the series
No pressure or anything
Not setting anyone up for disappointment one way or another
I wonder if that means in terms of graphics, gameplay, roster, all of the above. The roster would have to beat 02UM's 60+ characters so I'm not expecting that, for starters. For graphics I'd be fine if they can copy KoF All Star's models and effects, I don't think I want something a bit stylized like SamSho for KoF, just make it straightforward semi-realistic. But dump the multicolor superflash, it was ugly in XII, it was ugly in XIV.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on December 08, 2020, 06:59:02 pm
The King of Fighters 15 will be a 'supreme masterpiece' for the series says SNK producer, rollback netcode mentioned but not confirmed: https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2020/dec/08/king-fighters-15-masterpiece/

With some already dead characters emerge from Verse, it is no surprise  ::)

Dead characters...
Just give me (normal) Shermie... and I'm in!

About the "masterpiece" stuff, for some reasons, I cannot trust them...
I just would like to avoid the kind of "realism" SFV went for, and the low/average quality models they had in 14.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on December 08, 2020, 09:14:04 pm
The masterpiece stuff is just hyping it up and it's not something you should be thinking about until the game is actually out.

Rollback being mentioned hopefully means it's going to be an actual thing or the game.will be DOA.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on December 09, 2020, 03:12:49 am
Am I the only one who doesn't want to see revived characters and the only one who doesn't want to see the new faces team losers back ever again?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on December 09, 2020, 04:19:30 am
Am I the only one who doesn't want to see revived characters and the only one who doesn't want to see the new faces team losers back ever again?

Probably yes on the latter part. I feel like if Shermie's regular and Orochi movesets were combined she would be a much better character.

I now wonder which deceased characters in the series weren't inside Verse? Heidern's wife and child, maybe? K9999? Given that even Leona's dad and Jeff Bogard were inside Verse, I wouldn't count on it. It would be interesting if Jeanne's appearance was because of Verse, not a time machine. How would they explain Love Heart, now that the people they sold her to went under?

And I agree the masterpiece stuff is PR hype.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kamui_De_Los_Vientos on December 09, 2020, 09:45:12 pm
Brief Comment; I would hope it didn't end up like SamSho 7, the game was a resounding success, but they had the great idea of releasing it on Google Stadia, then releasing it to the Epic Store when people expected it more to come out on Steam.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on December 23, 2020, 04:25:32 pm
Just a confirmation that yes, we'll get an actual trailer in the 7th.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 01, 2021, 06:58:12 pm
All they have to do is to pull out with the presentation in they got it made and improving other things. I feel the DLC in XIV is an expansion on what they already have than just add what's missing. It will be the same for KOF XIV. As for the platforms, it will come out console (next-gen) and PC first before it comes to the arcade and you can thank the pandemic for that. I don't expect a whole lot of alternative costumes. I never feel ripped off with SNK and with their latest games.

KOF XV and Samurai Showdown season 3 news this week coming at Jan. 6 for Samuari Showdown season 3 and Jan. 7 for KOF XV.

https://www.siliconera.com/kof-xv-reveal-samurai-shodown-season-pass-3-announcement/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: HexagoN on January 05, 2021, 05:37:29 pm
Am I the only one who doesn't want to see revived characters and the only one who doesn't want to see the new faces team losers back ever again?

Honestly I don't know what I want, like I'm 50% want it and 50% don't want them to come back.
But thinking about it, Mature and Vice are still dead and they came back anyway, probably they are doing this just as an excuse to bring old characters with this new look.
They even revived Ash who was erased from existence like wtf xD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 05, 2021, 06:10:53 pm
I'm open to returning characters but I want updated movelists, at least effects. I'm really not fond of bringing back old movelist absolutely identical to what they were doing before. Make better moves or just come up with new characters, don't copy-paste.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on January 05, 2021, 08:20:01 pm
I'm open to returning characters but I want updated movelists, at least effects. I'm really not fond of bringing back old movelist absolutely identical to what they were doing before. Make better moves or just come up with new characters, don't copy-paste.

This. I remember the hype seeing KOF'96 launched in a London arcade and everyone freaking out how different some of the characters moves were. It was a refreshing change to see differences between Ryo and Robert expanded and Kyo's moveset changed. (Not going to lie, I'm usually a Andy/King main and I LOVED the new tools).

So yeah, I hope they change things up again too. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 05, 2021, 08:45:39 pm
I'm open to returning characters but I want updated movelists, at least effects. I'm really not fond of bringing back old movelist absolutely identical to what they were doing before. Make better moves or just come up with new characters, don't copy-paste.

I feel the same!
Ok for newcomers if they are not empty characters with no soul. Like some of the previous game we all almost forgot...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 05, 2021, 11:01:24 pm
I'm open to returning characters but I want updated movelists, at least effects. I'm really not fond of bringing back old movelist absolutely identical to what they were doing before. Make better moves or just come up with new characters, don't copy-paste.

I feel the same!
Ok for newcomers if they are not empty characters with no soul. Like some of the previous game we all almost forgot...

The empty characters with no soul thing is a big factor with both KoF and MK nowadays, and I feel like KoF has been battling this since the Nests era with the likes of Lin, Seth, etc not really clicking with me.  To be fair, FF and AOF also had tons of characters who were brought into KoF only once if ever for understandable reasons
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DarkWolf13 on January 06, 2021, 04:11:21 am
Honestly I don't know what I want, like I'm 50% want it and 50% don't want them to come back.
But thinking about it, Mature and Vice are still dead and they came back anyway, probably they are doing this just as an excuse to bring old characters with this new look.
They even revived Ash who was erased from existence like wtf xD
I'll flip if they think of reviving Rugal, cuz Rugal is badass af
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ShadowHand BXR on January 06, 2021, 04:15:05 pm
KOF usually gives alot of characters and visual style is always improving , Capcom on the other hand dissapointed us by giving us an Oro instead of Sean or Adon. I can agree with Ned that Shermie needs to be in, maybe can see Rugal dying and then being helped by Terry
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 06, 2021, 04:39:12 pm
Disappointed "us"? You presume too much if you think Oro's return disappointed people.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 06, 2021, 05:12:32 pm
I for one am quite happy with Oro’s return. Definitely someone I would’ve preferred over Aron and Sean tbh

Regarding dead characters returning I actually will lose my mind if Rugal returns. Seeing him do sick ass shit in 3D would be awesome and it’d be cool to see Adelheid involved in the story again too with Rugal’s return.

At the very least I’m praying the story reasons behind it all don’t suck. IMO it’s very hard to just bring a dead character back and have the story behind it make sense.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 06, 2021, 05:22:40 pm
I mean, they could bring the dead characters for flashbacks or maybe as illusions made by someone else. If Chizuru has her powers back (dunno if she has them again), it's the kind of thing she would do.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 06, 2021, 06:30:25 pm
maybe can see Rugal dying and then being helped by Terry
Why ? Terry has nothing to do with Rugal.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 06, 2021, 06:32:52 pm
maybe can see Rugal dying and then being helped by Terry
Why ? Terry has nothing to do with Rugal.

Terry helps everyone tho

He always asks “Are you OK?” after all. Be more like Terry lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 06, 2021, 07:23:41 pm
Info on Samuari Showdown season 3 and KOFXV got postponed for a later date.
https://www.dualshockers.com/snk-postpones-kof-15-reveal-january-7/

https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1346855948053221377
“We sincerely apologize to everyone who was looking forward to the announcements. We will inform our fans as soon as the new date and time has been confirmed, and appreciate your kind understanding.”
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on January 06, 2021, 07:37:16 pm
That's not a bad thing at all.
I'm sure they are thinking the right time to do the broadcast.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 06, 2021, 08:17:32 pm
Year's off to a good start, it seems.

He always asks “Are you OK?” after all. Be more like Terry lol
I'm not okay, Terry.

WE ARE NEVER OK
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on January 06, 2021, 09:12:30 pm
KOF usually gives alot of characters and visual style is always improving , Capcom on the other hand dissapointed us by giving us an Oro instead of Sean or Adon. I can agree with Ned that Shermie needs to be in, maybe can see Rugal dying and then being helped by Terry
I am very interested in the logic you used that arrived at the conclusion that ANYONE would help Rugal.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: T_DR on January 06, 2021, 09:57:20 pm
I just hope they bring my boy Shingo back. xD

If he does return, he'll probably team up with Benimaru and Daimon again just like in 2003.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on January 07, 2021, 04:59:17 pm
Regarding dead characters returning I actually will lose my mind if Rugal returns. Seeing him do sick ass shit in 3D would be awesome and it’d be cool to see Adelheid involved in the story again too with Rugal’s return.
The same as Leona and her dad: https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Gaidel That makes me wonder why Leona was one of the first five to show up in the trailer
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 07, 2021, 05:02:27 pm
Because she is iconic and a mainstay in the franchise.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 07, 2021, 06:21:48 pm
I just hope they bring my boy Shingo back. xD

If he does return, he'll probably team up with Benimaru and Daimon again just like in 2003.

This.

Bring Shingo back already. We need our goofball in 3D.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 07, 2021, 06:27:55 pm
As much as I'd be interested in a brand new character like Gaidel who we've never seen but has a good degree of relevance to someone else's backstory and could easily get an interesting brand new movelist, I'm sooner expecting characters that we already know. Rugal should easily be high on that list.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 07, 2021, 06:44:11 pm
I think Rugal is about as solid a lock as you can get

He was one of the voices and 15 is an anniversary number, this could be a canon dream match

He may even be the boss
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on January 07, 2021, 06:51:39 pm
He’s DLC at the bare minimum.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 07, 2021, 06:52:04 pm
I really hope for a dream match.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 07, 2021, 07:07:31 pm
Oh god a 3D Dream Match. I'm weak in the knees just thinking about how beautiful that could be.

Now I really wanna see Rugal in 3D.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 07, 2021, 10:42:54 pm
Well, a bunch of pictures of Kyo, Shun and Mai are circulating around, apparently being a supposed leak from kof xv.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 07, 2021, 10:46:45 pm
Well, a bunch of pictures of Kyo, Shun and Mai are circulating around, apparently being a supposed leak from kof xv.

Oop? I'm intrigued.

I know Mai isn't officially confirmed, but I feel like she falls into a handful of characters who are just like, obviously coming back. Her, Terry, Ryo, for instance.

Also if Ash actually does come back as a playable character I think Elisabeth will be back too. Probably.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 07, 2021, 11:09:55 pm
Do you guys think this leak pictures are real ?
A saw them, and it looks a freaking good looking game for 2008 ! Wait !! O_o

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 07, 2021, 11:11:47 pm
Also Leona, K', and Beni. It's definitely a leak alright, no way that's fan made. Mai's tits look really fucked up, hope it's not final (it's probably because it's in motion but it's a seriously bad shot).
There's a clear SamSho inspiration in the graphic style (but a little less cartoonish), it looks fine.
https://www.gamekyo.com/blog_article452305.html

... wait hold on there's also a KoF XIV Ultimate Edition with extra DLC (just costumes and PS4 themes) ? AND a trailer ? https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1347076506598600704
... Today in Europe in digital ??
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 08, 2021, 12:01:07 am
It already looks nicer than KOF 14 and its PS2 plastic models. Even if I don't see anyone who wasn't in there yet...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 08, 2021, 12:09:13 am
I agree. It’s a bit rough but I prefer it to KOF XIV so far.

Mai’s boobs look a little weird but I don’t really care lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 08, 2021, 12:35:12 am
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/521095240875245609/796850353378820146/SPOILER_1610050011184.png)

I feel they will "shatter all expectations". Now they have made a better presentation than XIV once they show that trailer.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Good_Wall533 on January 08, 2021, 12:36:38 am
Well, it looks better than XIV, that's for sure. The faces are still weird looking though. Especially Kyo.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 08, 2021, 12:52:57 am
Kyo looks odd and Mai's boobs look odd but I love how Benimaru looks.

Leona's hand, tho, looks fucking enormous.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 08, 2021, 02:54:59 am
New updates: new trailers are coming soon! First impressions are everything all they have to do is to pull it off!

"SNK is pleased to inform our fans that the revised date & time for our KOF XV and SAMURAI SHODOWN DLC announcements have been fixed.
Sorry for the postponement of these reveals, and thank you for your patience.

New dates:
01/07 6pm (PST)
01/08 3am (CET)"

At least it will not be like cyberpunk
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErFKpa-XEAAcX9K?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on January 08, 2021, 03:09:14 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8fMRyFI-xw&ab_channel=snkGame

Trailer is out, along with KOF XIV Ultimate, KOF2002 UM for PS4 and 2 of the Samurai Spirits Season 3 DLC characters!

I'm HYPED for this!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 08, 2021, 03:34:11 am
OK the trailer for Samurai Showdown Season 3 and KOFXV is finally here.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 08, 2021, 03:58:17 am
Wow.

I was very pleased with all of that, ngl. Aside from wanting to see more of KOF XV's roster, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt this time considering some stuff had to be delayed anyhow.

I don't really care for XIV UE but 2K2UM is epic. And of course the SamSho S3 reveals are also hype with Hibiki especially pleasing me.

All in all... 12 minutes I enjoyed and I'm eager to see more.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on January 08, 2021, 09:19:37 am
Compared to KoFXIV, the graphics of KoFXV are improved a lot.
Now where's my best boy and girl Shingo and Hinako?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 08, 2021, 02:38:40 pm
Separate Trailer with just KOF XV.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 08, 2021, 06:11:16 pm
When the leaked image showed "coming 2021", I was thinking, what's going to be the strategy for announcements ? They barely teased a few expected characters, just showcasing the new designs and the graphic style, but if they want to get this out this year, they still have a lot to show, either showing how big the roster will be, or a few new characters (or some characters who have never been in KoF before, like Alfred or whatever), or a few big returning characters that we haven't seen for a while (like the Orochi trio, the MotW characters that came in XI, someone like Saisyu who just hasn't been around much, or a big character like Goenitz or Rugal). So what rhythm of news should we expect ?
This trailer says there will be more next week already, so I hope they'll go the route of making very frequent small reveals through the year. Do some actual marketing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 08, 2021, 06:15:43 pm
No comment.
I'm glat do see a sequel, but this is a joke.
Waiting for some potential graphic update.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 08, 2021, 08:29:22 pm
You mean like literally every fighting game ever?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: T_DR on January 08, 2021, 10:36:33 pm
Compared to KoFXIV, the graphics of KoFXV are improved a lot.
Now where's my best boy and girl Shingo and Hinako?

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. It may not be XIII style, but the graphics and style is definitely a huge step up from XIV.

I also really want our boy Shingo back too. I wouldn't mind seeing Hinako back as well.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 08, 2021, 10:42:18 pm
#ShingoForXVPleaseAndThanks

Hinako would be pretty cool to see back.

And I love the style the more I see it... I think one of my only issues now is, Kyo looks... too young lol

He looks younger here than he did in XIV. Granted he looked like plastic in XIV, but still. He looked like a young adult and now he's back to looking 18-19.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on January 09, 2021, 02:43:56 am
This looks awful, I would've hoped with the more cartoon-ish style they could at least animate better or have proper models. This just looks ghastly, and only better than kof XIV due to the overall art style being more aesthetically pleasing
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 09, 2021, 04:08:58 am
KOFs video games are always looked bad, except for Capcom vs snk2 and KOF13 even MAI on DOA6 looks much better than this.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 09, 2021, 04:46:24 am
I always hated XII/XIII's art style for how badly it screwed a bunch of characters with just a few obvious flaws. Some like Iori, Mature, Elizabeth, Shen Woo, Leona were great, but King's stick arms, Kyo's hair and shoulder pads (idk his frame just looks so wrong), Ralf's meat-stuffed packs, Mai's dangling milk balloons, the way they represented fire, and the color explosions on the special effects, always thought it was awful.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ShadowHand BXR on January 10, 2021, 08:47:11 pm
Yo my Kof freaks, the Mai doesnt look bad, she actually looks closer to Cvs than Doa version. Kyo looks alot improved, while graphics are still about the same still good.
Year's off to a good start, it seems.

He always asks “Are you OK?” after all. Be more like Terry lol
I'm not okay, Terry.

WE ARE NEVER OK

Yeah this line could easily work haha, just think about this dialogue right here we are NEVER OK! Rugal can even repeat this over 4 times
Kyo looks odd and Mai's boobs look odd but I love how Benimaru looks.

Leona's hand, tho, looks fucking enormous.

Yo Kyo looks kinda close to how he looks , alot better than 14! Mais boobs needs an update, thats true, yeah benimaru NEVER looks off. Hes the man

I also think This KOF definitly gonna shatter expectations, lets see i hope i can get this as soon as this drops

Some guys have said why Terry would help Rugal at all, . The idea on that is that Rugal was in dire need when Terry happened to go run in and while eating a burger noticed something was off. Hes very good at this. Rugal maybe being manipulated by another new  boss, and Rugal barely has any strength left but must follow orders or die.. Again

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 10, 2021, 09:01:42 pm
Kyo only looks odd to me cause he looks younger than he's supposed to be. Idk, I just can't get XIV out of my head.

I do like the design, I guess it's just cause my brain is like "wait a sec" lol

Mai's boobs just need to be a little less triangle-y.

Leona needs smaller hands lol

And Shun-ei needs a better fuckin color scheme.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 10, 2021, 09:19:31 pm
Some guys have said why Terry would help Rugal at all, . The idea on that is that Rugal was in dire need when Terry happened to go run in and while eating a burger noticed something was off. Hes very good at this. Rugal maybe being manipulated by another new  boss, and Rugal barely has any strength left but must follow orders or die.. Again
Hey buddy, there are websites dedicated to shitty fanfiction. This is not one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on January 10, 2021, 09:55:49 pm
they need to fix mais slenderman model and kyos botox treatment. leona looks ok, and shun'ei cant be salvaged since his outfit will always look stupid
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Hero on January 10, 2021, 09:56:52 pm
I really dislike the design of Shun ei - and most of the new characters of XIV. The game kinda looks like a fanshion runway - Athena was a different thing, it was her gag. I really hoped they would change it, but I honestly couldn't care less about these.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 10, 2021, 10:50:22 pm
To me, right now :
It's a joke.
It's a shame.

Unless they update the graphics.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 10, 2021, 10:53:22 pm
We heard you the first two times you said that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on January 10, 2021, 11:10:16 pm
I kinda just wanted them to pull out a "Garou: MoTW" with the franchise, for once; with the likes of Kyo and Athena actually looking like fighting veterans, instead of being doomed to look like teenagers for all eternity.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 10, 2021, 11:19:41 pm
I kinda just wanted them to pull out a "Garou: MoTW" with the franchise, for once; with the likes of Kyo and Athena actually looking like fighting veterans, instead of being doomed to look like teenagers for all eternity.

Agreed. At least Street Fighter aged everyone up for SF5.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 10, 2021, 11:20:36 pm
SNK "fans":

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on January 10, 2021, 11:25:11 pm
i dont get the point of that image

imagine taking offense to people asking for rollback netcode
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 10, 2021, 11:31:07 pm
Too much whining over a game that isn't even out yet. Most of the things aren't even finished.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 10, 2021, 11:39:09 pm
I'm not really whining at least lol

Mostly pointing out the oddities.

Such as Shun-ei's outfit being fucking horrible oh wait that's old news.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 11, 2021, 12:20:51 am
I also wonder why there was never any form of Tales of Ash Dream Match game. Was the saga that unpopular? Or was it a graphics issue? There were only a few characters that existed only in the XII style, but MANY that were only in the NeoGeo style, so I guess that's why they skipped the Dream Match. Perhaps they could do a Dream Match game with the whole Neo Geo era/style (possibly including NeoWave, NGBC, and EX), as I am not sure all the XII characters were in XIII, or were they? I don't see why MI characters coming back would be a bad thing, either. Same with EX characters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 11, 2021, 12:23:32 am
They skipped the Dream Match because SNK died. Like two or three times. When they came back with XIV, they needed to do something new.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 11, 2021, 12:42:16 am
I also wonder why there was never any form of Tales of Ash Dream Match game. Was the saga that unpopular? Or was it a graphics issue? There were only a few characters that existed only in the XII style, but MANY that were only in the NeoGeo style, so I guess that's why they skipped the Dream Match. Perhaps they could do a Dream Match game with the whole Neo Geo era/style (possibly including NeoWave, NGBC, and EX), as I am not sure all the XII characters were in XIII, or were they? I don't see why MI characters coming back would be a bad thing, either. Same with EX characters.

XII was the "Dream Match".

But it was bad. So.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 11, 2021, 12:57:51 am
We heard you the first two times you said that.

you are right I think.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ShadowHand BXR on January 11, 2021, 01:16:31 am
KOF isnt a joke, its pulling out its version 2, and KOF usuually does good job on it , like KOF 13(despite some dissapointments to how characters look).   Man you guys never satisfied with KYo.. Kyo is looking good, not that bad at all,.. About Shun'Ei. Hes cool, maybe headphones throwing you off? You guys dont know this but.. Im so excited for this game rightnow, and you should Be too

We know idiots like Byakko had originally unsupported KOF Max Impact so , anything that baffoon says  is literally just somewhat nonsense

On Kyo:
If you age Kyo, hes gonna look really lame, we dont want to see Kyo looking like an idiot
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on January 11, 2021, 01:39:24 am
shun'ei is genuinely the worst designed character in the series, and i actually liked sylvie's design a lot. they couldn't decide between a dated visual kei look or just aping the latest trends from games like persona when they designed him. the rolled up pant leg, the stupid little headphones, the tie, the dumb hands that look like wings. he's like a bad joke when you put him next to the designs of most of the cast.

kyo's issues seem to come from the fact their 3D modeling team possibly dont know how to age him, he looks like a cross between a full grown adult and a young child. its not as bad as his mannequin look from XIV, but still pretty bad looking.

mais arms strongly remind me of the "wacky inflatable tube man" joke from family guy
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 11, 2021, 02:07:13 am
KOF isnt a joke, its pulling out its version 2, and KOF usuually does good job on it , like KOF 13(despite some dissapointments to how characters look).   Man you guys never satisfied with KYo.. Kyo is looking good, not that bad at all,.. About Shun'Ei. Hes cool, maybe headphones throwing you off? You guys dont know this but.. Im so excited for this game rightnow, and you should Be too

We know idiots like Byakko had originally unsupported KOF Max Impact so , anything that baffoon says  is literally just somewhat nonsense

On Kyo:
If you age Kyo, hes gonna look really lame, we dont want to see Kyo looking like an idiot

I can’t exactly take anything you say seriously if you’re gonna throw shade at someone else.

IMO Kyo looks kinda weird. IYO he doesn’t.

I’m skeptical on the game. You’re not.

I don’t think Byakko is an idiot he’s just another guy with an opinion.

KOF has been flawed in recent years. Ups and downs in each recent installment.

That’s all.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 11, 2021, 02:11:51 am
Just give me Duck King and I'm fine.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DarkWolf13 on January 11, 2021, 02:49:11 am
What game did Duck King appeared last in? 11?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 11, 2021, 03:03:40 am
What game did Duck King appeared last in? 11?

Yep, outside of that he's been in pachinko stuff.

So yeah... KOF XI has been it for the Duck.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 11, 2021, 04:08:17 am
I'm starting to think there is a trend with every KOF entry that has at least one obscure Fatal Fury rep added and then they go back to limbo until further notice.

Which means it's Micheal Max's time to save the world!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ShadowHand BXR on January 11, 2021, 04:16:25 am
shun'ei is genuinely the worst designed character in the series, and i actually liked sylvie's design a lot. they couldn't decide between a dated visual kei look or just aping the latest trends from games like persona when they designed him. the rolled up pant leg, the stupid little headphones, the tie, the dumb hands that look like wings. he's like a bad joke when you put him next to the designs of most of the cast.

kyo's issues seem to come from the fact their 3D modeling team possibly dont know how to age him, he looks like a cross between a full grown adult and a young child. its not as bad as his mannequin look from XIV, but still pretty bad looking.

mais arms strongly remind me of the "wacky inflatable tube man" joke from family guy
Shun Ei, is a pick among alot, definitly not the worst bro, its somebody else that was in Kof 12 and 13.. Looking all gay, oh who was that?  Wore red
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 11, 2021, 04:24:18 am
I'm starting to think there is a trend with every KOF entry that has at least one obscure Fatal Fury rep added and then they go back to limbo until further notice.

Which means it's Micheal Max's time to save the world!

Tung has been seen in both KOF XI and XIV. Also, we almost got obscure AOF dudes in XIV as well, and while Tung and Duck were in the Real Bout series, Hwa Jai and Richard Meyer were only in the original. I think Li is too recurring in KOF to really count for this. I'm personally hoping on someone outside of FF1, like Tsugumi Sendoh,  Axel Hawk, or Bob Wilson.  For AOF, I want to see Lenny come back.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 11, 2021, 04:26:21 am
Shun Ei, is a pick among alot, definitly not the worst bro, its somebody else that was in Kof 12 and 13.. Looking all gay, oh who was that?  Wore red

Ash, IMO, looked fine in XII and XIII.

Also I hope you didn't just use gay as an insult lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 11, 2021, 04:32:20 am
Ash is manly

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ShadowHand BXR on January 11, 2021, 04:37:14 am
Yea yea Ash, my god man we only had jokes on his ugly ass, everytime somebody used him we made sure to beat his ass..  we had a  great Takuma player for 13, but yea dont worry it aint gonna hurt no one, no animals were hurt in the process
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 11, 2021, 04:39:34 am
Shun Ei, is a pick among alot, definitly not the worst bro, its somebody else that was in Kof 12 and 13.. Looking all gay, oh who was that?  Wore red
Would you like to explain what exactly is wrong with looking gay?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 11, 2021, 04:48:40 am
Ash always had a smug look and an impossible trial set that makes you want to rain down vengence on his existence.

On that note, I can't even use that guy right without dropping combos during MAX because of his command moves and the ABCD stuff.  Why was he made to be impossible for us casual hands?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: teaket on January 11, 2021, 04:49:14 am
yeah aint nothing wrong with that
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on January 11, 2021, 05:42:17 am
Nice 3 count bount cameos
(https://i.gyazo.com/eedf1d18883cdc77933cb3983b0633d9.jpg)
Also a better look on how everything look during gameplay
Michael Max is also a bg character on the beach stage
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 11, 2021, 05:52:50 am
Regardless of criticisms against the art style, I think we can all agree Benimaru continues to be stylin'

Even at this angle he's amazing
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 11, 2021, 05:57:46 am
I'm more surprised at how Shun'ei's appearance had little to no change despite years of criticism yet they give Benimaru a nice new outfit.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on January 11, 2021, 07:17:35 am
Looking all gay, oh who was that?  Wore red
wtf is wrong with you
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: T_DR on January 11, 2021, 08:06:15 am
I'm starting to think there is a trend with every KOF entry that has at least one obscure Fatal Fury rep added and then they go back to limbo until further notice.

Which means it's Micheal Max's time to save the world!

It's funny considering Michael Max's song made it to Smash Ultimate somehow lol.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 11, 2021, 09:58:11 am
wtf is wrong with you
He liked Maximum Impact, his opinion is irrelevant nonsense.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on January 11, 2021, 12:46:32 pm
Is not a matterof liking Maximum Impact(everyone has a game to like), is just the guy being plain stupid and homophobic.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 11, 2021, 02:20:17 pm
Ash always had a smug look and an impossible trial set that makes you want to rain down vengence on his existence.

On that note, I can't even use that guy right without dropping combos during MAX because of his command moves and the ABCD stuff.  Why was he made to be impossible for us casual hands?

Ash was designed from the ground up to be hated, from his smug flamboyant mannerisms to his animations where it seems he's not even trying to fight seriously.

I'm starting to think there is a trend with every KOF entry that has at least one obscure Fatal Fury rep added and then they go back to limbo until further notice.

Which means it's Micheal Max's time to save the world!

I'm betting on Sokaku personally, he'd fit in perfectly with all the dead/lost souls stuff.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 11, 2021, 02:57:13 pm
wtf is wrong with you
He liked Maximum Impact, his opinion is irrelevant nonsense.
Excuse me, I like MI and I'm not saying homophobic nonsense.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on January 11, 2021, 02:58:01 pm
Nice 3 count bount cameos
(https://i.gyazo.com/eedf1d18883cdc77933cb3983b0633d9.jpg)
Also a better look on how everything look during gameplay
Michael Max is also a bg character on the beach stage
OK .... I want to see Bubble Bobble inspired stage as a potential DLC.

SNK "fans":

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
OK....... this is my new saved pic

Regardless of criticisms against the art style, I think we can all agree Benimaru continues to be stylin'

Even at this angle he's amazing
Sure he does, but as far outfit color goes, I wished it was golden shade and white highlights. From the trailer I saw they going with Retro but modern look, Kyo is fine in both concept and render but I wish they kept a new color scheme for Benimaru.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on January 11, 2021, 03:49:10 pm
(wow, this thread is a shit show)

I like how KOF XV looks, my body is ready for the hype train in weeks to come. KOF MI2 kicks ass.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on January 11, 2021, 04:14:27 pm
Just two things i want to see in KOF XV
- Change in gameplay mechanic compared to XIV, which in this one i didn't like at all (specially that Rush Combo thing).
- New skills for the characters. I saw in this trailer that Mai have a new NeoMax, Shun'ei aswell. But the rest (K', Leona and Beni) except Kyo that doesn't show that much are exactly the same as in XIV.

For the trailer, i really like Kyo's new outfit. Reminds me of how he pretended to look in KOF '99 (his "EVO Kyo" appearance) and it's way better than the crap look in XIV. The graphics looks ok. But my fear for sure is that SNK won't change something in the gameplay mechanic. Well, let's see if they did something new about that along the news that will come during this week.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 11, 2021, 06:20:25 pm
wtf is wrong with you
He liked Maximum Impact, his opinion is irrelevant nonsense.
Excuse me, I like MI and I'm not saying homophobic nonsense.

Is not a matterof liking Maximum Impact(everyone has a game to like), is just the guy being plain stupid and homophobic.

I'm just taking a jab after he said the same thing about me. No offense to MI, it was okay (and even if I didn't like it, it wouldn't invalidate your opinion).

except Kyo that doesn't show that much
Kyo's is the single punch from '00 or '01, dunno if it will have anything else before or after that punch. But I'm glad they're moving away from the dumb generic "point finger or fist, giant wall of flame" that he's been getting as his ultimate for a few games.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Hero on January 11, 2021, 08:48:25 pm
They should have aged Kyo up to his early thirties. Maybe taking the mant of the heir of the Kusanagi Clan, with some traditional clothes - albeit with some modern touches here and there, idk. Or set the KOF in another timeline with younger versions, or whatever.

Athena is the worst offender. I liked what they did with Sakura in SF5 (maybe a bit older, but at least she is not the eternal schoolgirl). I don't know why they can't age her, it's like they don't have any ideas and take 0 risk in these characters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Reginukem on January 11, 2021, 10:07:13 pm
Quote
Athena is the worst offender. I liked what they did with Sakura in SF5 (maybe a bit older, but at least she is not the eternal schoolgirl). I don't know why they can't age her, it's like they don't have any ideas and take 0 risk in these characters.

I agree with you. Yuri Sakazaki enter this team too. Younger at each version.
Capcom did a good job with Sakura.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 11, 2021, 10:11:35 pm
I hear people talk about Michael Max. Sure, it would be interesting to see them re-imagine the character. I would not mind Rick Strowd or Axel Hawk either. SNK got a lot of boxers after all.

However, if there were any a out of left-field character they could add it would be someone like Temjin lol.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on January 12, 2021, 01:01:18 am
I'd love Richard Myer or Bob Wilson, but it would be nice to see characters like Michael Max and Temjin return... As long as it's not Wang Koh-San. :P

Again, it would be nice to start aging the characters too... imagine how beefy Shingo would be and taking his own new techniques into a KOF. Also, Yuri needs to age, not regress... or we'll be fighting a toddler at some point! XD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 12, 2021, 01:09:33 am
I kinda wanna see Yuri all the way as an old master if they ever make like a third Fu’un game or even Garou 2. I agree she does NOT need to regress further. (She would have made a great assist trophy in Ultimate, by the way)

Also, Ash is a Hate Sink? Never knew that. He seems to have become less of a hate sink as it went on. Sokaku’s actually a pretty good suggestion for obscure comebacks, but I’m also betting on at least one World Heroes character to tie into the lost souls thing, given we had one in SNK Heroines (perhaps it’s Jeanne again, maybe not). I like how they acknowledge 3 Count Bout, and I feel like even more franchises could get stage representation; such as Burning Fight and King of the Monsters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Niitris on January 12, 2021, 04:24:14 am
Much better debut trailer than XIV, even if that was a bar so low you could walk over it.

Excited to see who'll they'll add in this game. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on January 12, 2021, 04:41:17 am
They got big bouncy titties in the game with no issue.

KOF XV is an instant buy in my book.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 12, 2021, 04:48:36 am
They got big bouncy titties in the game with no issue.

KOF XV is an instant buy in my book.

Dammit Lui lmao

Mai's still need to be fixed... they're oddly triangular. Imo anyways, and kinda saggy.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on January 12, 2021, 05:04:42 am
They got big bouncy titties in the game with no issue.

KOF XV is an instant buy in my book.

Dammit Lui lmao

Mai's still need to be fixed... they're oddly triangular. Imo anyways, and kinda saggy.

Hey man I never said they were *perfect*, they're there and that's what I like >:]
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 12, 2021, 05:05:41 am
They got big bouncy titties in the game with no issue.

KOF XV is an instant buy in my book.

Dammit Lui lmao

Mai's still need to be fixed... they're oddly triangular. Imo anyways, and kinda saggy.

Hey man I never said they were *perfect*, they're there and that's what I like >:]

Shut up before I throw you in the trash lmfao
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: T_DR on January 12, 2021, 05:20:04 am
I hear people talk about Michael Max. Sure, it would be interesting to see them re-imagine the character. I would not mind Rick Strowd or Axel Hawk either. SNK got a lot of boxers after all.

However, if there were any a out of left-field character they could add it would be someone like Temjin lol.

Since were talking about Michael Max here, When I played Fatal Fury 1 for the first time on PSP via Snk Arcade Classics Vol. 1, his theme song was the most nostalgic for me and I was really suprised that his theme made it to Smash Ultimate.

On the topic of Art of Fighting characters, there are many characters that I wanna see comeback. I personally would like to see Jack Turner, John Crawley and Mickey Rogers return.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on January 12, 2021, 09:08:53 am
They got big bouncy titties in the game with no issue.

KOF XV is an instant buy in my book.

Dammit Lui lmao

Mai's still need to be fixed... they're oddly triangular. Imo anyways, and kinda saggy.

Hey man I never said they were *perfect*, they're there and that's what I like >:]

Shut up before I throw you in the trash lmfao

Haha, good riddance to bad rubbish.

Anyhow, glad that this teaser got uploaded and the way I see it, it looks more cleaner. Sure, the chars are back from the previous KOF tournament. I wish for my characters like Shingo, Adelheid and the underrated one, Jin Fu-ha from Art of Fighting 3. He made a cameo in KOF XII.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 12, 2021, 11:40:14 pm
Someone made a video about the possibility of The Red Dragon from 3 Count Bout possibly being introduced to the series here;



Whether this is to be a one-and-done deal like other obscure comebacks in the series (RIP to Hwa Jai, Richard Meyer, Silber, and the like, I guess) or if he’s here to stay as a semi-recurring character like the likes of Raiden is unclear. I wonder if we will ever get a Street Smart character returning again (even as a cameo)?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 13, 2021, 12:47:35 am
Well, this someone is smelling coccaine.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on January 13, 2021, 03:35:17 am
Haha, good riddance to bad rubbish.

shut the fuck up Gtaguy. stay quiet and stop trying to one-up me in any area im in, both here and in discord.



you will never be apart of the joke. you are the joke.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: jay_ts on January 13, 2021, 04:39:19 am
If there was anything gameplay wise I would want to see in KOF XV, I would personally like the game itself to not  have so much emphasis on rushdown. I know KOF as a series uses rushdown as it’s main form of gameplay style but at least a little variety would be nice, since in KOF 14 everyone had one strategy and that was hyper hopping towards you then performing a lot of block strings in the corner. I’m not saying the rushdown should be completely gone, but I would like to see the rushdown not be so heavily emphasized, and a little variety between character archetypes would be better for the gameplay overall.

also I want a Rugal reveal but I’d have to look at another shitty shun ei design and 100000 other Mai outfits first but I can wait.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on January 13, 2021, 05:17:11 am
Well, this someone is smelling coccaine.

lol xD

but I’d have to look at another shitty shun ei design

Exactly, Shun'ei's outfit and his whole design is boring.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on January 13, 2021, 06:51:14 am
So Mui Mui and Love Heart are a no-go because of rights issues this time, right?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 13, 2021, 06:58:38 am
So Mui Mui and Love Heart are a no-go because of rights issues this time, right?

I think SNK got to keep Mui Mui, but Highlights (who bought Love Heart and probably the rest of the pachinko stuff that isn’t Mui Mui) closed in 2019, leaving her in a legal limbo as an orphan work. I kinda expect Jeanne to replace her at this point.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on January 13, 2021, 09:01:16 am
Haha, good riddance to bad rubbish.

shut the fuck up Gtaguy. stay quiet and stop trying to one-up me in any area im in, both here and in discord.



you will never be apart of the joke. you are the joke.

Objection, you are the joke. You get no help from me anymore.

Anyway, back to the topic. It's obvious that K9999 and some other fighters might be left the dust. I'm surely I'll go for any character that will redesign and good enough for the new KOF game. I'll go for Jin, so he'll be #1 wanted character.

As to be expecting, there will be a SNK final boss syndrome and cheap as hell as I've and some of you encountered. Either a return robot version of Rugal, some demon from other space in MI2 or the last game.
Also, bring out the Metal Slug tank bonus game or some all stars SNK as guest fighters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 13, 2021, 09:06:02 am
It's obvious that K9999 and some other fighters might be left the dust.

K9999 getting left in the dust isn't just likely, it's guaranteed. I'll shit bricks if he pops up in this game. Nameless is more likely and he's not even canon.

Also Lui ain't no joke, he cool. Take whatever beef you've got with him somewhere private, publicly being passive aggressive towards someone is just scummy and straight up stupid lmao
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 14, 2021, 02:33:58 am


Why is the SNK fandom so ridiculously speculative? Raiden has been a semi-recurring character in the series, unlike Red Dragon who would be making his debut.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 14, 2021, 02:37:18 am
Hype I guess? People wanna get excited.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on January 14, 2021, 03:11:41 am
Trailer of Shuen'ei
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 14, 2021, 03:26:05 am
So... Weekly trailer for each character ?
Also edgy teen calling his enemy "you're such a child" because of course. At least he's going easy on the angst now.
They went real hard on those leather and wool etc. textures, uh.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on January 14, 2021, 03:29:02 am
Quite possibly. Looks rather nice in motion from what I can see, but I REALLY need to stop looking at the comments. Yikes...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 14, 2021, 03:39:11 am
Does anyone in the editing department know how to do combos because this showcase of normals and specials at a fraction of a second each ain't working for me.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 14, 2021, 04:33:10 am
Trailer of Shuen'ei
[youtube]https://youtu.be/X7Xezys7tZQ[/youtube]

the game is getting better but one character for trailer hehe noo way :/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 14, 2021, 04:49:28 am
Hopefully they won't show just one character each week, otherwise they'll only finish showing all characters next year.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 14, 2021, 05:02:43 am
Fingers crossed the roster's size can match XIV's. Maybe not 1:1 but close enough.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 14, 2021, 05:33:48 am
I have a strong feeling it will come to PS4 and PC version with a PS5 soon after (Because of COVID an arcade version is less likely). As for the roster, I think they will start with the regulars first and then the returning characters that hasn't been in KOF for a while, and brand new characters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 14, 2021, 10:59:36 am
Glad to finally see something close to actual gameplya.
But they got crazy with jumpcuts.
Feel like they try to hide some possible bad looking stuff.

Beside of that.
I feel like KYO and SHUN EI's models are pretty OK to me.
I just don't like the actual design of Shun Ei. (personal taste)

I wish some more news will come in the future weeks...
I don't want to expect anymore, I will just wait and see if they can improve in various points. :mhmm:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 14, 2021, 01:11:36 pm
Glad to finally see something close to actual gameplya.
But they got crazy with jumpcuts.
Feel like they try to hide some possible bad looking stuff.
Every single fighting game trailer is cut like that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 14, 2021, 01:14:50 pm
Glad to finally see something close to actual gameplya.
But they got crazy with jumpcuts.
Feel like they try to hide some possible bad looking stuff.
Every single fighting game trailer is cut like that.

This one is still pretty aggressive in the cut itself.
EDIT : in this one, I cannot even understand what happen. Other fighting games trailers cuts is usually not that aggressive.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on January 14, 2021, 06:22:57 pm
In the KOFAS trailers they repeat the same move 2 or 3 times to drive the idea home. Here they only show it once for you to replay several times in slow motion and dissect what's going on.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 14, 2021, 07:40:14 pm
https://youtu.be/YILerS7DVEU
https://youtu.be/kKZk8ULvlAQ
https://youtu.be/AGI8F48lv24
https://youtu.be/OksMT-OBaaM
??
Sure Shun'ei is faster, but it's still the same series of half second-long clips of a single attack each. It's nothing unusual. It's a bad cut, but let's not pretend this is very different from what we're used to.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 14, 2021, 08:38:04 pm
https://youtu.be/YILerS7DVEU
https://youtu.be/kKZk8ULvlAQ
https://youtu.be/AGI8F48lv24
https://youtu.be/OksMT-OBaaM
??
Sure Shun'ei is faster, but it's still the same series of half second-long clips of a single attack each. It's nothing unusual. It's a bad cut, but let's not pretend this is very different from what we're used to.

Yes, thanks for posting some references.
It helps understanding some elements.
Perhaps my english is not good enough.

Of course, there is always cuts in trailers, to give some hype feeling (perhaps my sentence is bad)

Still with these older trailers, the action is understandable. You can clearly see what happen in 90% of these cuts.

In KOFXV trailer, it's "frantic" (again, not sure if the sentence makes sense)
I truely cannot see what happen in some of them. The cuts are really fast, short, I don't know how to explain better.
It doesn't really give me hype right now. Most of these older trailers still do it better.

This is my point of view.
Perhaps I'm a bit too old to like this level of fast cuts (in this particular kofXV trailer)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 15, 2021, 12:46:16 am
Kof XIV 2.0  :mlol:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 15, 2021, 12:52:20 am
Holy crap it's practically the same.

Ew.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 15, 2021, 12:58:22 am
Ya know, I looked up a random Vanilla SF4 character reveal from over a decade ago and while it's not as flashy as Blazblue's reveals, it went straight to the point of what is new with the character being highlighted.

Are you saying based on this 'trailer', the only thing new for Shun are different air dash commands that if you blink you'll miss?

I feel like they should have waited until they revealed more core mechanics so they can properly demonstrate Shun's (and everyone else's) new utilties.  Makes the whole individual showcase thing a lot more meaningful IMO.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 15, 2021, 01:09:43 am
Ya know, I looked up a random Vanilla SF4 character reveal from over a decade ago and while it's not as flashy as Blazblue's reveals, it went straight to the point of what is new with the character being highlighted.

Are you saying based on this 'trailer', the only thing new for Shun are different air dash commands that if you blink you'll miss?

I feel like they should have waited until they revealed more core mechanics so they can properly demonstrate Shun's (and everyone else's) new utilties.  Makes the whole individual showcase thing a lot more meaningful IMO.

yes.! you are right, they didnt show anything new in that trailer :/ literaly they are selling the same game 2.0 instead of patch KOF XIV but I hope to get my hype again on the next trailers because Im so disapointed right now. :/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on January 15, 2021, 01:25:51 am
Why all this complaining?

I mean, of course, could be a bit deceiving not showing new stuff and all, yet we saw:

- New designs for Kyo and Benimaru.
- New stages
- New graphic style(PLEASE, FIX MAI'S BOOBS)
- Benimaru and Kyo interaction. This may hint character interactions before the fight OR story mode.

I may left something here on there(I'm not a good KOF player/follower), but just keep with it instead being offended with "no new stuff". Feels a rushed trailer? Yes, sure. But it shown some few new stuff.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 15, 2021, 01:28:52 am
With the wait for KOF XV none of this feels like a grand enough reveal and with Shun'ei's 45 second long trailer, it didn't feel worth the wait. I didn't see anything new with him. I would've liked to see something more substantially new.

It was 45 seconds of nothing really clearly new and unique and it doesn't really cement KOF XV as worthy of hype atm.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 15, 2021, 01:29:41 am
It's just Shun's trailer for me.  The main trailer is fine with what's to come.  In fact, it got me intriguied with the new story setting and interactions.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 15, 2021, 01:42:04 am
It's just Shun's trailer for me.  The main trailer is fine with what's to come.  In fact, it got me intriguied with the new story setting and interactions.

I'll give em credit, I do like that.

I wish Shun's trailer showed more tho. 45 seconds of the KOF XIV protag looking... basically the same, albeit in a different graphical style, doesn't really cut it for me. With all the criticism against Shun'ei, from his bad design to blandness as a character, this trailer for him doesn't sell me on why I should give a damn that he's the playable protagonist.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 15, 2021, 02:23:05 am
Shun'ei is brand new and the least likely to get a revamped moveset already. I'm also not expecting Kyo to get anything new (beside maybe his ultimate but I don't expect anything straying too far from that one punch), just waiting to see which ones of the classic moves he'll get. And if he gets the Mu Shiki because come on. Benimaru I'm surprised that they cared enough to change his design, but his movelist ? Not a chance. For some of those characters, it's a given that they'll play up the ability to pull out those same combos you know by heart since '96.

what I want to see is if characters like Kim, Ryo, Takuma, Andy, King etc. will get new moves and designs (come on Mr. Karate II already ! Grow older !), and if Iori will be flameless (yeah like that's happening) or at least incorporate some variations of his flameless attacks (but better because his XII/XIII moves are lame). I'll be annoyed if Iori has yet again the exact same movelist he's had all these years with barely a couple new things - but then again I still expect it. That's the biggest expectation I'd really like to see shattered : throw a wrench in all those legacy movelists already. I don't care to see the exact same combos that have been around since '96.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 15, 2021, 02:37:06 am
Benimaru I'm surprised that they cared enough to change his design

I feel like this makes sense in canon considering he's a model lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 15, 2021, 04:01:13 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErvSbX8VgAER7V5?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 15, 2021, 07:49:45 am
Though I appreciate the designer's efforts in creating these characters, I find the new ones like Shun, Sylvie, Xanadu, Mian, etc pretty un-KOF looking.

I think the reason why is because KOF was always pretty simple looking compared to other 2D fighting games in its era.

Iori had 3 (Red, Blue, White) colors
Kim had 2 (White, Blue) colors
Ryo had 1 (Orange) colors

New characters like Shun and Sylvie has a gazillion number of colors that hurts my eyes.
That's why I liked Luon, Anotonov and Najd's designs since they are quite simple yet defining.

I think simpler the better for KOF character designs.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 15, 2021, 08:02:04 am
Yes I think you're so right about design, I feel pretty much the same.

"""""most""""" classic Kof characters design seems to be something you almost would like to wear in real life.
Not ACTUALLY, but kind of, ok, kind of. They usually from my point of view, look stylish with really few colors.

Since late 3D KOF, they got crazy with colors and unfitting designs. (it was already the case with some strange ones in MI)

Shun Ei particularly looks like a mish mash of unrelated elements of various colors taken from various pop culture trendy medias.
Like if they tried to catch the eye of non-fighting game players.
Again, this is my point of view. I'm not saying this is true, just my opinion.

Also, about the actual appearance of the game. I don't think much about it anymore.
I think there are some chances they possibly improves it later.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 15, 2021, 08:08:17 am
3D character models often focus on adding in tons of little details and a bajillion colors and often look more stiff than Kim's pants in XIV.

Sprite based fighters always get to take the simple dimensions and graphics they have and push them to add more personality and depth.

3D is so much harder. So, so, so much harder. A lot of the depth and personality is ultimately lost.

I wish Shun'ei could've been created back in, say, KOF XI or something, or prior to that. If he had the chance to be made with the older style, his design likely woulda been much better.

And this isn't me trying to sound like a "the new shit is cancer old shit for life" type of "fan", tbh I've come to realize that a lot of 3D fighters often look super lifeless like KOF XIV.

Shun'ei looks like someone opened blender for the first time and was like "holy crap I can just put all this stuff in here???" He looks like walking default assets thrown on a generic character model. I mean hell his FACE still looks like plastic, as opposed to Kyo who, while a bit odd looking, is oozing in personality from his face now. His expressions look way more like the original KOF got brought to life now.

Shun'ei looks like he doesn't belong here. I wish his powers were on a much better utilized character, with a better personality. Fingers crossed that somehow, Shun'ei's story in this game manages to save him from the trash heap.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on January 15, 2021, 09:04:27 am
I say this as someone who doesn't have Shun'ei in a list of absolute favorite character designs, but still personally likes his look: He looks less like a KOF character and looks more like a Blazblue OC.

As far as this trailer goes, it's really not a good one. Between the blink and you'll miss it jump cuts which are so frequent that as many people have said already, it feels more like they're trying to hide more than they show, and the fact that it doesn't really show anything super new including gameplay mechanics? It just feels like they had to rush this out just to get it out.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on January 15, 2021, 10:54:57 am


Sprite based fighters always get to take the simple dimensions and graphics they have and push them to add more personality and depth.

3D is so much harder. So, so, so much harder. A lot of the depth and personality is ultimately lost.


I don't agree with you. Look at Tekken and how from its firts iteration each character(even in the 3D model) have its own personality(except King/Armor King/Yoshimitsu/Kunimitsu because of the masks; and Nina-Anna-Michelle because they look plain generic woman face).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Niitris on January 15, 2021, 11:02:40 am
KoF has always been about what's trendy for the times. In the early and mid-90s, it was simple looking characters that could easily be cosplayed. Later on when the more popular JRPGs introduced more elaborate "fantasy" designs, SNK followed suit. I really wonder how Ash, Liz, and Duolon turn out if mainline-KoF was 3D when they debuted.

I like the new characters in XIV. They give KoF a nice, modern flavor to mix in with the older, legacy cast.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on January 15, 2021, 12:43:39 pm
I'd have to wonder how on earth Duo Lon's foot would work in 3D. XD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 15, 2021, 01:28:08 pm
Sorry to say, but I just cannot agree with the idea that KOF XIV char design is "fresh" and "innovative".
The sole reason is because that KOF ALL STAR, a mobile game has better/classier looking designs than KOF XIV.

Here's XIV's attempt at char design
(https://kofallstarx.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Sylvie_Paula_KOFXIV.png)

and here's ALL STAR's rendition of a new KOF character
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHQ2I48Dg69GYx_DXhYy-TxeEe6a7RiG6Dyg&usqp=CAU)

It's clear that a Korean mobile game company has better taste in creating a KOF char than SNK themselves...

I REAAALLLLYYY hope that KOF XV has better designs in general and not some Sylvie-styled color schemes any more...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 15, 2021, 02:15:14 pm
Sylvie was based on a specific j-pop singer who did look like that, her design is irrelevant to the usual skills of the character designers. But it does clearly show what they take inspiration from at the time.
The same game also has
"angsty modern teen with headphones" Shun'ei (wearing headphones isn't really a new idea to show an aloof loner teen)
pajama psychic boy Meitenkun
the sand guy
Geese's chess playing buttler
elite-but-shady-teacher Gang-il (my personal fav of the new XIV guys)
Chinese theater mask girl
a wrestler in a dino suit (that's a new design even if it's an existing character)
a Brazilian ninja
a metal arm boxer
so it's still very varied and touches a lot of bases. Try comparing Gang-il or buttler boy to Kaya instead.
Just because you hate ONE of them doesn't mean much about the designers' tastes.
(well, there's a bunch of those that I don't care for myself, but that was already the case before with the likes of Chin and Choi anyway)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on January 15, 2021, 02:48:00 pm
sylvie is one of the most exciting designs for a fighting game character in a long time. a fighting game character based on an established niche style of clothing. theres nothing "classy" about that KOF AS design, its literally the same generic blonde femme fatale you get in pretty much every fighting game on the market. sylvie was based on harajuku/j-pop style aesthetics. she's not random for the sake of it, its just the style.

while im on that tangent, mian is similarly a very cool design based on an existing cultural phenomena. xanadu is a little unappealing aesthetically, but at least he too is something different.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 15, 2021, 03:08:23 pm
The point was that not all influence and/or design matches the aesthetics of KOF universe.
Just because Sylvie pays homage to a J-Pop singer doesn't make her "KOF-looking" rather, the very opposite.

It's like Noctis and Negan in Tekken 7. There's some things that should be left out instead of in.

If you'd showed me a picture of Terry and Iori next to Sylvie and Shun'ei in the past and told me they were from the same franchise, I would've laughed and told you to gtfo.

At least Kaya looks like a KOF-esque design. Many of the newer characters look tacky and so KOF MI-ish that it makes me cringe just thinking about the devs agreeing with each other thinking that this was a good idea.

My personal two cents on this KOF design topic.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on January 15, 2021, 03:56:26 pm
KoF has always been about what's trendy for the times. In the early and mid-90s, it was simple looking characters that could easily be cosplayed. Later on when the more popular JRPGs introduced more elaborate "fantasy" designs, SNK followed suit.
(https://i.imgur.com/drz95pv.png)

yup

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on January 15, 2021, 04:01:10 pm
The answer to all of these posts is the same:
I think the reason why is because KOF was always pretty simple looking compared to other 2D fighting games in its era.
Iori had 3 (Red, Blue, White) colors
Kim had 2 (White, Blue) colors
Ryo had 1 (Orange) colors

New characters like Shun and Sylvie has a gazillion number of colors that hurts my eyes.
"""""most""""" classic Kof characters design seems to be something you almost would like to wear in real life.
Not ACTUALLY, but kind of, ok, kind of. They usually from my point of view, look stylish with really few colors.

Since late 3D KOF, they got crazy with colors and unfitting designs. (it was already the case with some strange ones in MI)
3D character models often focus on adding in tons of little details and a bajillion colors and often look more stiff than Kim's pants in XIV.

Sprite based fighters always get to take the simple dimensions and graphics they have and push them to add more personality and depth.

- Hardware limitations.

Back in the day you could only use 15 colors. The advent of 3D graphics means they're no longer restricted, they can FINALLY design whatever they want.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 15, 2021, 04:14:15 pm
the sand guy turned hentai enthusiast
Character development.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 15, 2021, 04:25:06 pm
Sure.
I know that arcade machines were pretty limited despite their pretty big size, but that's beside the point.

But just because they get more technological freedom doesn't really make up for their bad color decisions and rather unorthodox design choices.

If you really look deep into KOF designs, they were always stylized, but not too exaggerated.
They also reflected each characters' professions as well as their characteristics too.

Kyo = Hot headed high school student
Iori = Edgy rock band member
Chizuru = A traditional Japanese priestess
Athena = An optimistic idol
Kim = A TKD master
Mature & Vice = Secretaries
Ralf & Clark = Soldiers
etc

and......

Shun'ei = A boy prodigy with devil like powers?
Sylvie = what, a failed NESTS experiment?

How can you look at Shun'ei or Sylvie at first glance and think he/she is what they are "described" to be?
Hell, I'd take it if Sylvie was introduced to be a quirky idol rivaling that of Athena or smth, but her bio is irrelevant, her personality is flat, her design (despite being unique) is out of place.

That is nothing to do with how she looks on paper.

I criticize the way the devs presented their "new and fresh" designs to the audience. It was way too out of the blue imo. That's why they were heavily criticized.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on January 15, 2021, 05:00:51 pm
I know that arcade machines were pretty limited despite their pretty big size, but that's beside the point
No, not beside the point, it's the whole point! Ryu and Ken wore literally one color clothing back in 1992. This is why RYO had same colored hair as his Gi. It's the reason why characters were designed a certain way. SNK even mentioned this new design philosophy in interviews. Something along the lines of "we can design things that would give nightmares to our old graphic artists from the Neo Geo era".

They also reflected each characters' professions as well as their characteristics too.

Kyo = Hot headed high school student
[...]
Shun'ei = A boy prodigy with devil like powers?
You just tried to imply Kyo and Shun'ei aren't exactly just the same character. Let me change the wording - "An edgy, rebellious teenager fighting prodigy with a special power that ties him to the overarching plot" <- See? They're the same. They just gave it a new coat of paint with no hardware restrictions to appeal to younger audiences in 2014, not 1994.

(https://i.imgur.com/aTSVptl.gif)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on January 15, 2021, 05:15:28 pm
good stuff walt, i hadn't even thought about the implications of the earlier character design- the series design has always been a reflection of fashion trends and thats heavily emphasized in the concept art.

just another reason sylvie is the GOAT
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 15, 2021, 05:21:11 pm
Kyo = Hot headed high school student
Iori = Edgy rock band member
Chizuru = A traditional Japanese priestess
Athena = An optimistic idol
Kim = A TKD master
Mature & Vice = Secretaries
Ralf & Clark = Soldiers
etc

and......

Shun'ei = A boy prodigy with devil like powers?
Sylvie = what, a failed NESTS experiment?
Okay, this comparison is pure bullshit. You're talking about Shun'ei's powers as if they're something ridiculous, but Kyo, Iori and Chizuru have ancient powers from their clans (who, correct me if I'm wrong, were supposed to defeat a god), Athena is part of the Psycho Soldier team for a reason, Mature can cut through air and Vice has super strenght. I'd ask you what is the difference, but I know what the answer is: stupid whining, just like people who play Pokémon and say only Gen 1 had good designs.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 15, 2021, 05:23:45 pm
Yeah, claiming that Shun'ei's powers are less explained than Kyo's is not very honest. Kyo's powers turned out to be directly connected to the big bad of the story, Orochi, as a bunch of old mythology. Consider that Shun'ei is in the same situation.
Mature and Vice are even worse, they were introduced as Rugal's secretaries, somehow got superhuman powers in 96, and did the game ever actually say they got those powers from Orochi beside just saying they served him ? The whole hakkeshuu shtick is never completely explained In actual canon as I recall.

Sylvie's backstory is that she got out of NESTS when it collapsed and now she's trying to pass as a normal person who happened to turn pop star. The design can reflect her own tastes and not necessarily her power archetype. That should be something to call actual good character design, because that's how you make characters that aren't one dimensional. how is that even different from Athena, another pop star who has psychic powers ? Sylvie is another pop star who has lightning powers.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 15, 2021, 05:35:49 pm
(A) No, not beside the point, it's the whole point!
[...]
(B) You just tried to imply Kyo and Shun'ei aren't exactly just the same character. Let me change the wording - "An edgy, rebellious teenager fighting prodigy with a special power that ties him to the overarching plot" <- See? They're the same. They just gave it a new coat of paint with no hardware restrictions to appeal to younger audiences in 2014, not 1994.

(A) No, the past is the past. It is irrelevant to KOF XV.
If you are telling me that SNK always wanted to create characters with outrageous designs and that now they are fulfilling their wishes, then that's a darn shame tbh.

Older KOF character designs are what made them famous in the first place. Judging by the overall reception of the most recent game, I think KOF XV won't be a huge turning point for the company either unlike KOF XIII which was artistically heavily traditional.

(B) Your description of Kyo is misplaced from the very beginning.
He was 19 in KOF'94, therefore was NOT a teenager indeed. But he was a high school student nonetheless for bad grades :P.
See? Even your generalized perception of Kyo and Shun'ei was wrong 3 words in from the start of the sentence.

What we know for sure is that his clothes reflect the general Japanese high school student's and therefore allows us to realize that his profession is still a student.

Shun'ei's design is ehhhhhhh.... How can I put this civilly... Confusing?

You don't see a Chinese high school student with that sort of fashion.
Here's a reference to a generic high school student in China:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/MSNVCwY_SalHZbYHYQrCbdwUUkIJcv2v2mtDbvDiFQcfWw-feHHnD50LiYy8w9391axH4bYmRg5or4xCKKOW-MQskQPmmRyGSZlbQYkerk0cBBBs9IBf1p1-TXlwq2aLkvxAPC846iQS1kWOeX7jfB15OTeVOe4kDgEnGKrL-efj)
This is Shun'ei:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/19c67e03-4089-4af6-bcd7-6d0b90698ce9/dab0mkf-6d3dcbb0-8e10-43c6-9949-13846b8bea7d.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvMTljNjdlMDMtNDA4OS00YWY2LWJjZDctNmQwYjkwNjk4Y2U5XC9kYWIwbWtmLTZkM2RjYmIwLThlMTAtNDNjNi05OTQ5LTEzODQ2YjhiZWE3ZC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.mfCFr286y-a_muKcJ8ecO8tAM-tB0zXPcLIuyek_g5c)
He looks more like a damn superhero than a high school student.

Either his design is too over the top (which is the case for MANY new characters in KOF) or he just wears like a goof.
Just to make my point more clear, here are some appropriate/more realistic comparisons of actual good KOF designs:
Japanese high school student:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1136135809294200833/6UwWAZ9g.png)(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/49/07/fe4907a8f74c61f473e0233577bf9bee.jpg)
Traditional Japanese Priestess clothes:
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b196fc2b-a300-4657-8874-405412e7d147/dcqnxvm-b8108f20-94f8-420d-b210-f57f3b94f251.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjE5NmZjMmItYTMwMC00NjU3LTg4NzQtNDA1NDEyZTdkMTQ3XC9kY3FueHZtLWI4MTA4ZjIwLTk0ZjgtNDIwZC1iMjEwLWY1N2YzYjk0ZjI1MS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.UMiluW-WJ1FtESJjP8nFkI4Mbfw_bH2UGxz-wBHX0rw)(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41yXod2wftL.jpg)
ETC...

The new designs...
(https://media.tenor.com/images/f46fcc5c60c32674b00bbb143d235191/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 15, 2021, 05:46:36 pm
Okay, this comparison is pure bullshit. You're talking about Shun'ei's powers as if they're something ridiculous,

No, I'm actually not. Please don't put words in my mouth.

I am criticizing the lack of Shun'ei's distinctiveness regarding his design in KOF XIV.
At first glance, you wouldn't know what that kid is about.

Judging by his skills, you'd think he is indeed "a boy prodigy with devil like powers". That's not a bad thing.
Hell, Kyo and Iori has flames coming out of their hands.

The reason why I chose to criticize Shun'ei, Sylvie, Meitenkun, Mian, and even Verse's design is that they look so awkward and out of place that it makes me rethink whether I'm playing KOF or not.

Honestly, does Verse even feel like he fits in the franchise?
Meitenkun is another design catastrophe that I can't fathom beyond disbelief.

KOF XIV had the most random designs ever and I think I'm not the only person who feels that way.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 15, 2021, 06:23:39 pm
One thing I wanna criticize (again if I already have) is Shun’ei’s face.

He still looks super expressionless and dead inside — whereas Kyo’s new face is oozing personality.

I know it’s not an uncommon practice to do this but it REALLY feels like Shun’s model was just lifted from KOF XIV. I feel like if his personality and body language was a bit more expressive and diverse he’d be a more interesting character despite his design.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: JudaiZX on January 15, 2021, 06:36:40 pm
Shun'ei is just what happens when you open up Soul Calibur creation mode, hit random all, and just go with it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 15, 2021, 06:50:39 pm
I also feel like KOF designs could be better.
Since  KofXIV, it seems like they want to attract the average new "weebo" with flashy designs.

It's true that most KOF oldschool designs are a bit outdated now.
But I would had wished for less "out of place" designs like Shun'Ei and Meitenkun as exemples...
Sometimes, Shun'Ei just reminds me her from Tekken7 :
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Even if her color scheme is more "consistent" (not sure of the word here)

They also did good ones (to my tastes) like Luong, Nelson... (even if his model is a bit meh compared to the drawing concepts...)
What they did to Kyo in 14 is an exemple of bad taste design idea, (for my own perception) They tried to make him cool for 2010+ audience.
I'm glad we're back to some "kind of" more "classic" Kyo in 15.

I THINK, fighting games needs archetypes, In Street fighter games, archetypes were really simple : Karate guy, sumo, boxer etc.
In KOF, and SNK games in general, I think we always had some stylish choices in costumes and designs. More details, """orenaments""" etc.
But Ithink, it was never with excess.
The excess of uneccessary details with 14 was from amy point of view a bad choice.
A good design of character doesn't need so many flashy colors and tons of details.

To me, quality of design and conept of character is not based on the quantity of colors and details. (even with 3D and less limitations of textures etc)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 15, 2021, 06:54:07 pm
Ugh, don't even bring up Tekken 7's design choices...

I can start another massive discussion regarding that train wreck.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on January 15, 2021, 07:03:08 pm
I have a question. Something that keeps me awake during nights. SO forget the war about Shun'ei and Mikun and Kyo and such:

ARE LUONG AND GANG-IL AN OPEN MINDED COUPLE? The way she speaks to Kim(and so many others) and Gang not being bothered...they seem to be swingers @_@.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: KarmaCharmeleon on January 15, 2021, 07:06:52 pm
Shun'ei is just what happens when you open up Soul Calibur creation mode, hit random all, and just go with it.

Just like all of Yu-Gi-Oh! main characters!

____

I like Shun'ei, I don't mind his design being heavily inspired on Persona. I don't think it clashes with KoF, a 20 year old franchise is bound to have radically different character designs over time, especially when it goes ham on troupes and archetypes. Barring Garou outfit Terry looks pretty much like the same american stereotype he ever was, and I doubt someone cared about him clashing with the sci-fi aesthetic of K' in KoF 2000 (or the sci-fi aesthetic of K' clashing with the design of the classic 90s characters).

Character designs are bound to be loved and hated by people with different tastes. Its just like clothes or music. I cringe to death when I read people trying to use arguments to make their opinions look like "facts" rooted in objective criticism (positive or negative). An superficial opinion its naturally subjective. Its okay for people not to like how a character looks, just like its okay for other people to like it.

Besides, Shun'ei plays super smooth but you guys would not know that because you are too busy counting how many colors and belts he has :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 15, 2021, 07:18:05 pm
I have a question. Something that keeps me awake during nights. SO forget the war about Shun'ei and Mikun and Kyo and such:

ARE LUONG AND GANG-IL AN OPEN MINDED COUPLE? The way she speaks to Kim(and so many others) and Gang not being bothered...they seem to be swingers @_@.

Dunno, but I'm sure Luong is just teasing Kim cuz he's super traditional and all :P.

Besides, Shun'ei plays super smooth but you guys would not know that because you are too busy counting how many colors and belts he has :)

You do you darlin' :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 15, 2021, 07:22:16 pm
Tbh I think if they took away Shun’s headphones and chain and rolled down his other paint leg he would look pretty decent.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: JudaiZX on January 15, 2021, 07:23:49 pm
Shun'ei is just what happens when you open up Soul Calibur creation mode, hit random all, and just go with it.

Just like all of Yu-Gi-Oh! main characters!

only post 5ds Era starting with Zexal. Aside from the weird multicolored hair the protags tend to have (Except for the one in my profile which I assumed you chose to call this series out because of it, which I dont know why because Judai has the most normal hair out of all them.) The design elements on on their outfits fit the setting of their respective series.

things really didn't start getting dumb until after Zexal and thats because 5ds was the last one the original creator, Kazuki Takahashi, had any involvement with
(I did not expect a KOF thread to be the place where I'd have explain deep yugioh lore)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 15, 2021, 07:28:05 pm
Besides, Shun'ei plays super smooth but you guys would not know that because you are too busy counting how many colors and belts he has :)

I got no issue with his gameplay really — much like I enjoy Marvel vs Capcom Infinite’s gameplay.

But much like MVC Infinite, Shun’ei’s gameplay, for me, isn’t great enough to make up for the other flaws he has. MVCI plays great but it doesn’t keep me from being disappointed in the game’s... everything else.

Shun has potential. It just feels like they aren’t acting on it. In terms of gameplay, it’s great that he plays good! In terms of lore and story and world building, I’m not invested in him whatsoever.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 15, 2021, 07:29:25 pm
Okay, this comparison is pure bullshit. You're talking about Shun'ei's powers as if they're something ridiculous,

No, I'm actually not. Please don't put words in my mouth.
Yes, you are. You purposely omitted the powers from all other characters' descriptions, while mentioning Shun'ei's as if he is an outlier, which he isn't. Your comparison is flawed, to say the least.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: KarmaCharmeleon on January 15, 2021, 07:38:25 pm
The design elements on on their outfits fit the setting of their respective series.
Just like the design elements of the outfits of the KoF protagonists fit the setting of their respective sagas :P nice, you get it.
And by no means I'm against Yu-Gi-Oh! character design. I'm totally okay with Yugi sometimes looking like a bdsm enthusiast with a jacket over his shoulder

(I did not expect a KOF thread to be the place where I'd have explain deep yugioh lore)
deep yugioh lore lmao
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 15, 2021, 07:44:41 pm
Okay, this comparison is pure bullshit. You're talking about Shun'ei's powers as if they're something ridiculous,

No, I'm actually not. Please don't put words in my mouth.
Yes, you are. You purposely omitted the powers from all other characters' descriptions, while mentioning Shun'ei's as if he is an outlier, which he isn't. Your comparison is flawed, to say the least.

First of all, I was mentioning his lore not his specific powers. His leaks described him so as well as the official bio so don't expect me to make further explanations on that.
&
Also, becuz that's literally the only visual aspect that is remotely recognizable...?
Devil hands coming out of thin air... DEVIL POWERS?! Huh, go figure.

And how else am I supposed to describe a aesthetically clueless design that matches no realistic counterparts except for describing his specifically tailored lore?

Trust me.
As a South Korean who has lived/visited both Korea, China and Japan I know that is not how Chinese high school students wear.

If you told me that Shun's design was based off of a Chinese high school student, I'd assume you've never even been near a Chinese high school or matter of fact any East Asian high school or you are in fact delusional.

That is something you'd see a police officer wear on the streets.
They don't dye their hair teal nor do they allow such street wears in a strictly government supervised school.

Get your facts straight.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 15, 2021, 08:50:27 pm
Devil hands coming out of thin air... DEVIL POWERS?! Huh, go figure.
Devil hands are not a thing (except for idle playthings). I have no idea where you picked up that expression. Giant floating hands would sooner make me think of a puppeteer (inverted in Shun'ei's case, he's the puppeteer, the hands are the puppets), or the Smash Bros boss, or a Jojo Stand. Not the devil.

edit - in fact, Shun'ei looks like he's a step away from being a goth kid who has giant puppet hands as a power and he's the one dressing them up to pretend they're demonic.

And how else am I supposed to describe a aesthetically clueless design that matches no realistic counterparts except for describing his specifically tailored lore?
Right, tell us you've never seen an angsty teen wear headphones and a jacket over the shoulders and unkempt shirt and pants with a chain. Go on.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 15, 2021, 09:09:51 pm
A few team-ups I want to see:

* Luong replacing Xanadu in the Korea Team; with her having Chang and Choi to fit that timeless "female boss crook and two dumb henchmen" trio that has existed since Yatterman.
* Kim and one of his sons alongside Alice Chrysler as a fighter. Maybe Kim Sue-Il could get in there too.
* Jeanne joining the Another World team to replace Love Heart, who's owners closed in 2019. Maybe we could get Cham-Cham in if we wanted a bigger shake-up. Perhaps Nakoruru could even bring over Rimururu/Rera? Not TOO many SamSho characters; the series is now once again active.
* For Shermie? Either New Faces or Orochi Ladies could work.
* A "wrestling team" with Raiden/Big Bear, Red Dragon/Gandhara, and Angel. Maybe work in Tizoc?
* At least one team of all-new characters.
* Alternatively, put Tizoc, Zarina, and Angel on one team for South America.
* The "Tales of Ash" team with Elizabeth, Ash, and Shen Woo.
* American Sports Team make a proper return, even with members shifted around.
* A "Junior Southtown Team" with the likes of Alfred Airhawk, Tsugumi Sendoh, and Li Xiangfei in its ranks.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 15, 2021, 09:36:52 pm
Right, tell us you've never seen an angsty teen wear headphones and a jacket over the shoulders and unkempt shirt and pants with a chain. Go on.

I’ve seen angsty teens with headphones and unkempt clothes but never with chains and jacket capes. It also doesn’t help Shun’ei’s color scheme makes him look less angsty and more “unironically ironically edgy”.

I’ve never seen anyone quite like him. At least with the other characters I can believe a lot of their attires. Shun’ei looks like someone who has never cosplayed before, trying to cosplay.

His design could work if his colors matched better. Maybe remove the jacket. Idk.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: EveryonesKouhai on January 15, 2021, 11:19:30 pm
When it comes down to shun'ei design I wish his dlc costume was the default, especially taking into consideration what the rest of his team in 14 looked like.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on January 16, 2021, 12:17:40 am

As a South Korean who has lived/visited both Korea, China and Japan I know that is not how Chinese high school students wear.

If you told me that Shun's design was based off of a Chinese high school student, I'd assume you've never even been near a Chinese high school or matter of fact any East Asian high school or you are in fact delusional.

Maybe is just his outfit and not something school related. But if that's the HARD part for you, then I remind I'm from Spain and we're not stuck in the XVIII(18) Century as Resident Evil 4 seems to state(even earth based streets, maaaan), nor we all are toreros like Lawrence Blood, Miguel Caballero or Vega. Also, another character who's indeed Spanish and seems no one to notice is Earthquake, from SamSho. During the year when the action takes place, that of America was part of Spain.

I mean, don't get offended by ONE character. We here in Spain have plenty of characters to get offended of and no one is crying :/.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 16, 2021, 12:40:11 am

As a South Korean who has lived/visited both Korea, China and Japan I know that is not how Chinese high school students wear.

If you told me that Shun's design was based off of a Chinese high school student, I'd assume you've never even been near a Chinese high school or matter of fact any East Asian high school or you are in fact delusional.

Maybe is just his outfit and not something school related. But if that's the HARD part for you, then I remind I'm from Spain and we're not stuck in the XVIII(18) Century as Resident Evil 4 seems to state(even earth based streets, maaaan), nor we all are toreros like Lawrence Blood, Miguel Caballero or Vega. Also, another character who's indeed Spanish and seems no one to notice is Earthquake, from SamSho. During the year when the action takes place, that of America was part of Spain.

I mean, don't get offended by ONE character. We here in Spain have plenty of characters to get offended of and no one is crying :/.

I don’t think he’s offended. I think he’s just pointing out that Shun’s outfit doesn’t really make sense or reflect him and his background whereas other characters appear to have outfits that fit them better.

Shun’ei doesn’t look like a traditional Chinese student or acolyte so it’s just odd why he’s dressed that way.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on January 16, 2021, 01:06:07 am
its not so much traditional student as it is "student if they were part of a persona-like anime game." it looks stupid. kollossonis argument that its "out of place" is dumb, but he does look stupid
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: EveryonesKouhai on January 16, 2021, 02:36:31 am
i probably wouldn't say a persona like game, since they usually look like actual students in those kinds of games. if anything shun'ei is dressed more like the usual japanese chuni students who so desperately want to stand out that they have convinced themselves they have hidden knowledge or secret powers.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 16, 2021, 03:29:48 am

I mean, don't get offended by ONE character. We here in Spain have plenty of characters to get offended of and no one is crying :/.

Haha, no need to worry. I'm not offended by a mere character's design. It'd be a petty thing to be if I was.

I'm simply annoyed at how a character can look so ridiculously clueless from a design point of view.
Some people may like his design and aesthetics, but personally, I find it off putting and distracting to say the least.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on January 16, 2021, 07:24:41 am
This video might bring up some solid points about the Shun'ei discussion:



(pretty good channel in general, btw)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on January 16, 2021, 07:35:19 am
I must be immune to Shun'ei's bad design then. I don't think it's that bad. Not worse than say fucking Lin or Shion or something.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: EveryonesKouhai on January 16, 2021, 09:09:27 am
shun'ei is as bad as lin, but shion is ok. it's just traditional chinese clothing
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: KarmaCharmeleon on January 16, 2021, 11:53:37 am
I'm pretty sure many people likes Lin, it's a mix of sci-fi toxic with classic ninja. The gameplay on him its pretty damn good too. That's how different tastes work. What I don't get is why enumerating the amount of colors or details on a character is supposed to be an positive or negative "argument" :P especially when you have great character design from people like Hirohiko Araki.

Even tho I think Shun'ei design is a byproduct of crossing Persona with Blazblue aesthetics, according to one YouTube comment it is rooted on a real life chinese fashion trend.

Quote
As a Chinese student, allow me to introduce the culture of this outfit: IDIOCY.
The character's outfit completely showed a trend called FEI ZHU LIU (fay-ju-li-ou), which was a despised pop culture. Usually teenagers or some adults with little fashion sense or low self-esteem choose this kind of outfit to shout out how FASHIONABLE they are. The worse part is that they truly believe this kind out unsubtle outfits represent Punk+Rock & Roll+Gothic+Young+Futuristic+Japanese animated vibe.
In the early 2000s, FEI ZHU LIU becomes a popular trend among those with low education experience and people who want to look chic but don't want to spend corresponding time or money doing that.
This trend is cheap and messy, but has been adopted to groups of people who cannot understand fashion or themselves.
I really hope I can post pictures in the comment to show how cringy it is.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on January 16, 2021, 10:04:33 pm
various colors and details have a way of clashing. they can be artfully incorporated by people like araki, or they can lean full into the absurdity like sylvie for their own unique feel. but in the case of shun ei, it just looks dumb when its meant to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on January 18, 2021, 12:53:54 am
for what its worth, shun ei is snks interpretation of modern chinese youth aesthetics. its clear that its popular with the market is designed for considering all the art, and the cosplay and that a random chinese user quite literally made an ENTIRE KOF XIII shaded spriteset in mugen. thats, alot, of time dedicated to a brand new character. you can see his type of clothing styles reflected in a ton of other chinese media like other games, shows, clothing lines, etc.

he is the main character of a part-chinese franchise now after all, so atleast he has that going for him

also lol karma, that user sounds unreasonably angry at a fashion choice, its hilarious. but yes, that person is right, its based on the specific fashion choices i talked about above.



i personally think his design is dumb as heck but thats just me. atleast his moveset is fun!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 18, 2021, 01:08:04 am
a random chinese user quite literally made an ENTIRE KOF XIII shaded spriteset in mugen.

Hot damn I literally just found/saw that Shun'ei like a minute ago and was blown away lol

Also admittedly that's a very good take and I'm surprised by that. I didn't realize that Shun'ei was popular in that crowd actually. If his design was that well received by the audience that was best supposed to relate to him... well, I'll give credit where credit is due. I still personally find the design fairly awkward but I can respect it more now if that's the case.

Pretty cool honestly.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 18, 2021, 01:20:05 am
Well, Shun'ei is a cute anime boy, so he is bound to be loved by a specific crowd.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 18, 2021, 01:22:36 am
Well, Shun'ei is a cute anime boy, so he is bound to be loved by a specific crowd.

I think Lui was trying to say that the Chinese market liked the Chinese representation leading the partly-Chinese banded franchise now.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on January 18, 2021, 01:24:23 am
eyup.


now if only they didnt make his goddamn hair green and not give him a purple tie.


if they made his color palette a little more uniform id like it alot more.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 18, 2021, 01:25:45 am
eyup.


now if only they didnt make his goddamn hair green and not give him a purple tie.


if they made his color palette a little more uniform id like it alot more.

I think if his hair was a darker green and if his gloves/arm bands/whatever were gone from his hands he'd look a bit better.

And if his pants were rolled down all the way.

The tie I think can stay with the right modifications.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 18, 2021, 01:43:18 am
Well, Shun'ei is a cute anime boy, so he is bound to be loved by a specific crowd.

I think Lui was trying to say that the Chinese market liked the Chinese representation leading the partly-Chinese banded franchise now.
This whole "appeal to China" argument doesn't really work if people in the west also like it, and cute anime characters appeal to weebs all over the world. If KoF XIV had been nothing but anime boys as new characters, I could see the argument about being generic mobile design, but one character? Nah.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 18, 2021, 01:50:59 am
This whole "appeal to China" argument doesn't really work if people in the west also like it, and cute anime characters appeal to weebs all over the world. If KoF XIV had been nothing but anime boys as new characters, I could see the argument about being generic mobile design, but one character? Nah.

The appeal to China argument works for China. Cause it's China. Lol.

As for the West... I mean, people like and hate Shun'ei for a variety of reasons.

I think it's kiiiinda dumb just to generalize it as "cute anime boy for weebs" lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Croix12 on January 18, 2021, 02:35:41 am
Game looks good, hopefully they add Chizuru and B. Jenet.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 18, 2021, 02:36:41 am
Game looks good, hopefully they add Chizuru and B. Jenet.

Seeing Chizuru come back would be hype, and B. Jenet would also be great.

But like, Shingo gotta come back too. :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 18, 2021, 03:32:16 am
Shingo is like, the single most requested character to return. But realistically speaking he has low chances of returning, if only because there isn't a team he could fit in, and I highly doubt they'd remove Daimon for what is basically a moveset clone of Kyo.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 18, 2021, 03:33:17 am
Shingo is like, the single most requested character to return. But realistically speaking he has low chances of returning, if only because there isn't a team he could fit in, and I highly doubt they'd remove Daimon for what is basically a moveset clone of Kyo.

So just do what they did in KOF 97 and make him single entry.

Problem solved.

Or put Kyo, Iori, and Chizuru on a team and then have Shingo team up with Benimaru and Goro.

Easier solution.

As for Mature and Vice, stick them with Rugal assuming he actually comes back. Not that they'd like that but idk.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Seadragon77 on January 18, 2021, 03:34:15 am
You know, he doesn't have to be on Team Japan... Shingo could be on a team of SNK fans like himself, Alice and a female Iori.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on January 18, 2021, 03:41:54 am
Well, Shingo hasn't been around since XI? Why not give him a whole new moveset with a nod to the stuff he copied/learned from Kyo?  I mean, they differentiated Ryo/Robert, Kyo/Iori, why not turn Shingo into the powerhouse he should be. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 18, 2021, 04:44:35 am
Or put Kyo, Iori, and Chizuru on a team
What makes people think this will ever happen?

Besides, Kyo and Benimaru are shown together in a cutscene on the first trailer, which more or less spells they're on the same team.

Shingo could be on a team of SNK fans like himself, Alice and a female Iori.

Replace the "female Iori" thing with Jhun and there you have a nice Fanboy Team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 18, 2021, 04:49:40 am
Or put Kyo, Iori, and Chizuru on a team
What makes people think this will ever happen?

Idk man, I know they only ever team up in canon to fight Orochi/evil people and don't really do it for the tourney stuff otherwise, but eh.

Besides, Kyo and Benimaru are shown together in a cutscene on the first trailer, which more or less spells they're on the same team.

Fair enough.

Make Shingo single entry then I guess!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 18, 2021, 04:56:32 am
You know, I think this is the single major issue of KoF. Basically the chances of a character appearing are dependant mostly on whether the character can be fit on a team (and sometimes whether the character has something to do plot-wise). This is the main problem with most characters introduced on the NESTS arc onwards, since most of them were made to fill in the extra slot on the four men teams.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 18, 2021, 04:59:08 am
You know, I think this is the single major issue of KoF. Basically the chances of a character appearing are dependant mostly on whether the character can be fit on a team (and sometimes whether the character has something to do plot-wise). This is the main problem with most characters introduced on the NESTS arc onwards, since most of them were made to fill in the extra slot on the four men teams.

That is... fair.

It just sucks cause Shingo's been around forever. I really wanna see him come back. Somehow.

I hope they can find a way to fit him into the plot... assuming other past characters come back from the dead too, like Rugal and Krizalid.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 18, 2021, 05:26:38 am
I can totally see them putting him as DLC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 18, 2021, 05:34:20 am
To solve the problem with the leftover NESTS characters, perhaps mix them with the EX/Neowave/Maximum Impact/XI secret boss cast who haven't been seen in ages, or even make some of the strikers from the NESTS era playable? Or even FF/AOF characters who haven't gotten the chance of appearing in the series?

SNK "fans":

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty


I will never, ever get why wanting to see the Maximum Impact (or EX for that matter) casts return is apparently a bad thing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 18, 2021, 06:09:53 am
You know, I think this is the single major issue of KoF. Basically the chances of a character appearing are dependant mostly on whether the character can be fit on a team (and sometimes whether the character has something to do plot-wise). This is the main problem with most characters introduced on the NESTS arc onwards, since most of them were made to fill in the extra slot on the four men teams.
Is that even required in the story? Can't people just be groups of friends like all other fighting games, so they can drop this stupid team thing?

I will never, ever get why wanting to see the Maximum Impact (or EX for that matter) casts return is apparently a bad thing.
People like to whine, its just that simple.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 18, 2021, 06:14:21 am
It's fine to not like Maximum Impact, more power to you. And it's fine to prefer other characters returning. I mean I personally would prefer other characters to appear over the Maximum Impact roster. I wouldn't MIND if they came back, I just... would prefer other characters.

Some people really don't like those characters and just really don't want to see them come back.

At the end of the day it's fine if it's your personal opinion/preference. I haven't actually seen anyone being like "Maximum Impact is a STAIN and any characters from that game coming back will RUIN THE FRANCHISE", though. That's what I'd call whining, and I haven't seen any of that (here anyways, but I usually miss a lot of obvious shit anyhow).

Anyhoo can we get #ShingoXV trending.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 18, 2021, 06:24:35 am
I haven't actually seen anyone being like "Maximum Impact is a STAIN and any characters from that game coming back will RUIN THE FRANCHISE", though. That's what I'd call whining, and I haven't seen any of that (here anyways, but I usually miss a lot of obvious shit anyhow).
Oh, darling, but there has been. You won't believe the whining that happened on this thread over the mere suggestion that Maximum Impact characters could return. I'll maintain what I said before about it, though: if SNK brought forgotten characters such as Mui Mui and Love Heart in KoF XIV, if they brought forgotten characters such as Miss X and Jeanne D'Arc in SNK Heroines Tag Team Frenzy and if they revived Samurai Shodown while also bringing attention to the also forgotten Last Blade with Hibiki as an upcoming DLC, it is far from unreasonable to expect them to bring at least one character from a forgotten side story such as Maximum Impact.

On a side note, I love how Miss X's ending in SNK Heroines implies that Iori is a tsundere, its my head canon that he is gay for Kyo now, even though that is not an original head canon to have.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 18, 2021, 06:35:50 am
Oh, darling, but there has been. You won't believe the whining that happened on this thread over the mere suggestion that Maximum Impact characters could return.

Can you not "Oh darling" me it comes off as super condescending and it makes you look like an asshole lol and I'm not gonna put up with that.

Additionally, I'm not saying there hasn't been any. I'm saying I haven't seen it. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist or I'm denying it's existence. I just tend to miss shit like that cause I'm an airhead lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 18, 2021, 03:01:46 pm
Is that even required in the story? Can't people just be groups of friends like all other fighting games, so they can drop this stupid team thing?
That's the thing, teams should at the very least make a minimum of sense, otherwise you end with stuff like Iori with the agents in 2001 or some of those random formations from XI. If you're gonna team up characters who aren't know to have any kind of mutual friendship at least they'd need to have something in common or a shared objective (like they did with the Mexico Team in XIV).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on January 18, 2021, 04:34:38 pm
(B) Your description of Kyo is misplaced from the very beginning.
He was 19 in KOF'94, therefore was NOT a teenager indeed.
(https://i.imgur.com/GQOayfc.png)
Even your generalized perception of TEENAGER was wrong 3 words in from the start of the sentence.


Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 18, 2021, 07:32:04 pm
To be faiiiiiiir, there's a cultural thing there because over here you're an adult at 18, so no, 19 isn't a teenager (especially since our word for teenager isn't based on the word "ten"). It's hard to attribute the word in English to someone who's legally an adult. Depends on your language and your law.

That being said, Kyo was absolutely designed as a stereotypical hotheaded cocky teenager in the early years, regardless of your legal word for his age. It's ridiculous to claim otherwise.

Also, last time that discussion came up and I looked that up, I could swear Kyo was like 15 or 16 in the first games, got wrecked by Goenitz before 96 and then held back only one year, then disappeared in 97 and never finished school because of NESTS ? When did the info about him being 19 after 95 come from ??
edit - wikipedia says they just stopped aging at all after 95 so the year numbers are irrelevant.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 19, 2021, 06:46:20 pm
(B) Your description of Kyo is misplaced from the very beginning.
He was 19 in KOF'94, therefore was NOT a teenager indeed.
(https://i.imgur.com/GQOayfc.png)
Even your generalized perception of TEENAGER was wrong 3 words in from the start of the sentence.




My bad.

Where I'm from 19 is a tad too old to be considered a "teen".
You usually go off to college or find work at that age.

Maybe the countries I live in don't coddle up their kids as much.

But like Byakko said, it's a cultural thing I guess. Touché nonetheless.

That being said, Kyo was absolutely designed as a stereotypical hotheaded cocky teenager in the early years, regardless of your legal word for his age. It's ridiculous to claim otherwise.

But, I never said otherwise.

I concur that his design was indeed partly constructed on the basis of his profession.
He was a cool, hot-headed high school student who did nothing but fight.
That was evident in his design.

Unbuttoned jacket.
Rolled up sleeves.
Wears a headband.
Wears gloves.
etc.

I don't wanna bring up old discussions again, but Kyo's design is much more suitable for my own taste. Let's just put it at that ;)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 19, 2021, 11:33:58 pm
Where I'm from 19 is a tad too old to be considered a "teen".
You usually go off to college or find work at that age.

Maybe the countries I live in don't coddle up their kids as much.
Or maybe it's because neurologists agree that people's brains are still developing until their early 20s.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 20, 2021, 01:13:02 am
No, that is 100% not how any country on the planet defines who's a teen and who's an adult. And it 100% shouldn't be how they define it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 20, 2021, 01:49:33 am
Yeah, it's always good to follow stupid rules set up by people who have no idea what they're talking about, instead of, you know, actual scientists that study the human brain for years.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 20, 2021, 02:04:19 am
I really hope you're not saying you don't want people to be considered adults until they're in their early twenties, with all the legal rights and responsibilities that come with being considered an adult. Being an adult and having a right to a place in society equal to everyone else should not have anything to do with your brain being fully formed.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 20, 2021, 05:11:13 am
Being an adult [...] should not have anything to do with your brain being fully formed.
If you think there is a better time to be called adult than when your brain is fully developed, I honestly don't know what else to tell you.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 20, 2021, 05:21:51 am
Hey how about we get back to talking about KOF.

Here I'll help. Ahem.

Shun'ei sucks.

Okay let's get back on track.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Yagoshi300 on January 20, 2021, 06:01:04 am
Everyone: cHeWn Ay BaD !!!11

Me:

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 20, 2021, 06:25:14 am
Lol

I mean

He does tho

And if I've learned anything from years on the internet, saying the same joke over and over and over and over and over will never get old ever

Ye





In all seriousness the wait for the next trailer feels like an eternity and I really hope it's either longer, or 45 seconds put to good use.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 20, 2021, 01:03:27 pm

In all seriousness the wait for the next trailer feels like an eternity and I really hope it's either longer, or 45 seconds put to good use.

maybe the producer of the game took note of the last trailer that was a trash and they are making a better new one. this time.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 21, 2021, 02:04:43 am
I just realized that XIV Kyo had daddy's Tsumugari for his climax move and not the wall of flame or the nuke punch from the last few games. Considering they're reusing animations for XV, yet the trailer showed Kyo had the 00 punch (possibly the MAX move he had in XIV, the 99 double punch super into the 00 punch), maybe he doesn't have the Tsumugari again because... Saisyu's coming back and taking his super back ? Eh, it'll take a while before we know more about that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on January 21, 2021, 03:02:39 am
New trailer
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on January 21, 2021, 03:09:33 am
That trailer made the game look 10x better honestly
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 21, 2021, 03:26:14 am
Holy shit that trailer was miles better.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on January 21, 2021, 03:35:08 am
WAY better than Shun'ei's trailer. At least they show even Meiten's NeoMax.
And that stage looks cool. Looks like SNK at least still listening to feedbacks.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 21, 2021, 03:41:40 am
A really good sign for sure.

And it seems they're gonna showcase each team in order, which means next week will be either Tung or whoever replaces him. And honestly I'm eager for it just so it can put to rest those absurd theories that they'll team up with Chonrei or Jeff Bogard.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 21, 2021, 04:01:42 am
Looks like SNK at least still listening to feedbacks.
Indeed.  Like everyone said, that trailer is a lot better than Shun'ei's and got me intrigued at Mei's gameplay.  Hope they retain this template moving forward.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 21, 2021, 12:58:41 pm
New trailer
[youtube]https://youtu.be/L0vhm_jd804[/youtube]

OK! THIS IS a trailer.
We can actually see what happens, we can see combos, and the cuts are longer than 0.5 second.

I hope the next ones will be this way! So much better than the "please don't look at me" style of the previous one.
I have some big hopes for how will be this game in the release.

Meitenkun is definitely not my type of character, but I think he looks good.
His model is pretty OK, his style fits his "gimmick" etc.

OK, these 2 characters had their trailer, now we can start serious business (from my point of view)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 21, 2021, 01:48:24 pm
Judging by the first two trailers, I think it's going to be based on each team and their members.

I think Shun'ei + Meitenkun + ??? and that ??? will be the next one I think.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on January 23, 2021, 01:27:34 pm
The trailer was better indeed. Now that this sleepyhead is been confirmed, I think the third might be Tung Fu or a new member in the hero group.

I wonder if the women group will be mixed again. I enjoy that Mai was with King and Alice. What other group do we want in this game?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 23, 2021, 02:56:59 pm
I don't know about Tung. The last game's ending is hinting at that he might know that his death is near, and that one of his students has to join. So, maybe it's Jeff Bogard, a lot of people seem to speculate on this.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 23, 2021, 03:20:59 pm
Tung is old and knows he'll die soon, so he might leave his spot to another guy who is already dead ?
If Tung must be replaced by a student, the first I'd see is Chonrei. But I still expect Tung to stay.
edit - I'm an idiot and forgot XIV just resurrected a bunch of people, I see now why some people are starting to talk about Jeff. I still don't expect him.

Saisyu's 98 team was Masters team IINM.
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: QuickFist on January 23, 2021, 03:22:17 pm
I don't know about Tung. The last game's ending is hinting at that he might know that his death is near, and that one of his students has to join. So, maybe it's Jeff Bogard, a lot of people seem to speculate on this.

Isn't this first team Team China? Shun'Ei and Meiten are chinese, and going by what has been disscussed in this thread, SNK is catering a lot to the chinese market, so, first team shown is China. Tung Fu is chinese, yes, but Jeff Bogard, IF he is in the game, he wouldn't be on this team, rather a Saisyu kinda team from the older games, can't remember what the team was called
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on January 23, 2021, 04:11:10 pm
I don't know about Tung. The last game's ending is hinting at that he might know that his death is near, and that one of his students has to join. So, maybe it's Jeff Bogard, a lot of people seem to speculate on this.

it's probably one of the twins.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 23, 2021, 04:57:09 pm
If, HUGE IF, Jeff Bogard is in the game in any manner, would be just on a cutscene. If SNK would want him to return they'd first need to set up his return, much like they did with Ash, something that hasn't happened.

I could see Mian taking Tung's spot on the team, should be easy to set this up and its likely that the Official Invitation team from XIV will disband anyway.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on January 23, 2021, 06:14:07 pm
I see more possibility for Tung. But Jeff Bogard... He's been a NPC for a long time. Sure, I would like to see Chun Li's father at some point, but it's just you can't bring dead characters alive unless they are good explained why they are.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 23, 2021, 06:29:37 pm
Jeff is dead, his soul did not seem to be inside Verse, and his return would have no build up if suddenly next week they were just like “Jeff is in the game”.

I hope he’s not in the game lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 23, 2021, 06:49:14 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsPzn4VVcAA1gFh?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 23, 2021, 07:29:44 pm
Another new character would be a disaster for the story.

We still have Shun'ei's potential to be seen.
&
Kensou's dragon power(?) thingy still in mystery.
&
Ron, Duo Lon, Rin's Hizoku storyline still paused.

Either one of them needs to be finished first before any other new face comes into play especially if he/she is going to be added into Shun's team (AKA the new Chinese Hero team).

I remember when KOF sagas used to be simple and linear.
Not this messy...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 23, 2021, 08:12:07 pm
Jeff is dead, his soul did not seem to be inside Verse, and his return would have no build up if suddenly next week they were just like “Jeff is in the game”.

I hope he’s not in the game lol

Exactly.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on January 23, 2021, 08:21:06 pm
at this point im convinced theyre never going to give kensou/bao's storyline the time of day
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 23, 2021, 09:31:12 pm
Is there actually anyone who genuinely wish for Bao to return? I thought those were a myth lol.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 23, 2021, 10:03:38 pm
I mean

I would like that lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on January 24, 2021, 01:56:50 am
What other group do we want in this game?

I want Team World Heroes, Team Kizuna Encounter and Team Fighter's History. 

But that's never gonna happen. &gt;_&gt;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 24, 2021, 01:59:41 am
I mean, they keep saying "Shatter All Expectations", so they could do something surprising.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 24, 2021, 02:01:47 am
Where the fuck is the American Spots Team at lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on January 24, 2021, 02:14:27 am
I mean, they keep saying "Shatter All Expectations", so they could do something surprising.

Then they better include Team Twinkle Star Sprites.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on January 24, 2021, 03:23:36 am
Team "Maximum Impact":
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DarkWolf13 on January 24, 2021, 05:04:58 am
I wonder who else will be joining or returning... I'm curious if the King of the Dinosaurs will make a return.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 24, 2021, 05:29:44 am
What other group do we want in this game?

I want Team World Heroes, Team Kizuna Encounter and Team Fighter's History. 

But that's never gonna happen. &gt;_&gt;


Fighter's History is owned by a company called G-Mode, so SNK would have to negotiate with them. Same for a Team Waku Waku 7 + Galaxy Fight (Sunsoft), Team Rage of the Dragons (Piko Interactive),  Team Breakers (QByte Interactive), or Team Fight Fever/Eye of Typhoon (Viccom). Not to mention Gowcaiser being owned by ArcSys (seriously, why haven't ArcSys touched VFG at all?) of all companies. This would actually be a good idea for SNK to track down their old third party devs and allow their kind to enter KOF 15.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 24, 2021, 05:31:32 am
Fighter's History is owned by a company called G-Mode, so SNK would have to negotiate with them. Same for a Team Waku Waku 7 + Galaxy Fight (Sunsoft), Team Rage of the Dragons (Piko Interactive),  Team Breakers (QByte Interactive), or Team Fight Fever/Eye of Typhoon (Viccom). Not to mention Gowcaiser being owned by ArcSys (seriously, why haven't ArcSys touched VFG at all?) of all companies. This would actually be a good idea for SNK to track down their old third party devs and allow their kind to enter KOF 15.

Calm down dude we aren't even at the dream match yet lmao

That stuff would be better suited for KOF XVII (assuming 16 ends this story arc and 17 is the dream match).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 24, 2021, 05:41:37 am
Dream Match titles aren't necessary anymore. The only reason they did these before was to fill in the void between each story arc caused by the yearly release schedule the series went by.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 24, 2021, 05:43:29 am
Dream Match titles aren't necessary anymore. The only reason they did these before was to fill in the void between each story arc caused by the yearly release schedule the series went by.

Fair.

But just cause they aren't necessary doesn't mean they don't need to happen. A 3D dream match would sell.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 24, 2021, 05:47:48 am
Dream Match titles aren't necessary anymore. The only reason they did these before was to fill in the void between each story arc caused by the yearly release schedule the series went by.

Fair.

But just cause they aren't necessary doesn't mean they don't need to happen. A 3D dream match would sell.

Or a game with EVERY 2D era character (including stuff like NGBC) coming back for one more bout. But since the end of the Dream Matches, SNK seem more keen on having one-shot characters like Hwa Jai and the like.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on January 24, 2021, 09:06:37 am
the chon rei twins are more plausible to return than jeff.

all i want is the flying brigands make a comeback , especially now that they are catering to the chinese audience it's the right time to reintroduce them as the main villain for this arc. and doesn't the flying brigands have a beef with the kyokogen and psycho team?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 24, 2021, 09:15:05 am
There are no "Chon Rei twins", there are two Jin brothers and one of them is Chonrei.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on January 26, 2021, 02:23:13 am
There are no "Chon Rei twins", there are two Jin brothers and one of them is Chonrei.

and the other is chonshu
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 28, 2021, 02:09:08 am
I want to see a remaster of the Maximum Impact series it may have its flaws but it is fun to play. Remember unlike Capcom SNK owns 99% of its characters even if it is made by a different artist. So those characters may come back in some shape or form if there is a demand for them. It may be possible there may be a new team representing the Middle East for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on January 28, 2021, 03:00:09 am
Someone on 4chan said before that Benimaru always has to be in the Hero Team. Damn, that prognostication.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 28, 2021, 03:14:25 am


Indeed he is, that cheeky little rascal jumping from team to team as always.

Guess this means Daimon might not show up again.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 28, 2021, 04:47:29 am
My theory of Team Sacred Treasures now has a tiny bit more support due to Benimaru team swapping once again lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on January 28, 2021, 04:54:11 am
I really wanna see Kensou leave Athena behind and team up with Angel, after they just randomly gave them pre-match dialogue vs each other in XIV.

Also yeah, I really want the dragon spirit plot to become relevant again, I don't care if they don't bring Ron back for it or not.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 28, 2021, 09:22:58 am
I don't mind Daimon head's his own team for once. It's due time lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 28, 2021, 09:43:02 am
Ok, one team done !
I can't wait to see the second team...

BTW, To me, things are getting better, we can actually see some phases of combo/gameplay.
They actually HAVE something to show this time, just like for Meitenkun.

Also, the trailer gives us a clue why Benimaru is "so Chinese" this time.

I wonder what will be the next after the beauty boys.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 28, 2021, 11:42:09 am
Come to think of it, Beni has actually won the most KoF tournaments canonically.

(I don't give an f about politics, but could not resist)
(https://i.imgur.com/qAz9JwC.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on January 28, 2021, 11:50:51 am
My theory of Team Sacred Treasures now has a tiny bit more support due to Benimaru team swapping once again lol

a redesign for chizuru would  be great but i don't think iori would team up with kyo since there's nothing much going on for them to do it. so probably moe habana or reiji will be having their debut.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on January 28, 2021, 12:21:41 pm
I seriously doubt they will add KOF EX characters given that they had zero acknowledgement of their existence.

Unlike the MI crew.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 28, 2021, 01:22:11 pm
I seriously doubt they will add KOF EX characters given that they had zero acknowledgement of their existence.

Unlike the MI crew.

Me neither.
I think they will keep the same recipe from the previous KOF.
With perhaps a bit of variation.

I sincerely hope for some good surprises and interesting new comers.
In the spirit of SNK.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mgbenz on January 28, 2021, 02:16:54 pm
I can see Daimon in a team with Shingo and another character this time. The Three Sacred Treasures team will come back no doubt.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 28, 2021, 03:50:43 pm
I seriously doubt they will add KOF EX characters given that they had zero acknowledgement of their existence.

Unlike the MI crew.
Portable console spinoffs tend to just be forgotten, except by MUGEN creators. Maximum Impact wasn't a huge success, but at least it's more acknowledged.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 28, 2021, 05:09:04 pm
a redesign for chizuru would  be great but i don't think iori would team up with kyo since there's nothing much going on for them to do it. so probably moe habana or reiji will be having their debut.

I mean the last time they ignored Chizuru and didn’t team up she lost her powers. Now that she had them back, now that Orochi was reawakened and Ash has returned and Verse may come back and tons of other strange occurrences have been reported to be happening (aka souls of the past) I feel it’s enough lasting concern that the three may team up in the next KOF just to tackle shit head on and not repeat the mistake of taking things lightly before.

After all — they all clearly have the maturity of setting aside differences to team up anyways. So it’s not improbable!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 28, 2021, 08:20:49 pm
I dunno, they came together to eliminate Orochi before his soul was reborn at the end of XIV, but everything else is unrelated to them, it's not their job to handle other revived people. I don't see a reason for them to team up until after Ash or the Orochi gang actually do shit, which they might do in XV, meaning they'll team up in XVI.
The only problem with that is I don't know who Kyo will team up with if not Benimaru. Iori and Chizuru have options, Kyo is the only one who doesn't have any friends other than Beni, Goro, and Shingo.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on January 28, 2021, 08:37:56 pm
Well, when you put it that way.

If it's not 3 sacred treasures team, I can see a Team Kusanagi with Kyo, Saisyu and Shingo.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 28, 2021, 09:04:46 pm
... yeah ngl I can see that too -- especially relevant considering Rugal's nearly definite return, giving Saisyu a reason to return to the fight (outside of dealing with the possible return of Verse). Plus it gives Shingo a reason to return too -- to resume battling with his mentors.

It just makes me wonder who Daimon would team with, if he does return. I also wonder where Chizuru would go.

Assuming Rugal returns with a team and not single entry, Mature and Vice... could maybe team with him? If not, then they'd go with Iori ofc.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 28, 2021, 09:31:48 pm
I could see Chizuru going as a single entry if not reclaiming boss status. I could indeed see Shingo coming alongside Kyo. As for the plot with Kensou and Bao, I could see them join with Mian or a newcomer to form a "Rival Dragon Team" to resolve that plot. Not sure if Daimon is coming back, though. Even Mai of all people skipped a game once.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: CozySquirtle on January 28, 2021, 10:11:50 pm
Let's not forget about Kusanagi-Yagami Team (Kyo, Iori and Shingo) from 'The King Of Fighters XI'. I believe this could make a return.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 28, 2021, 10:15:57 pm
Let's not forget about Kusanagi-Yagami Team (Kyo, Iori and Shingo) from 'The King Of Fighters XI'. I believe this could make a return.

But wasn't that only a team because Chizuru asked Shingo to join the two after she lost her powers, so they could stop Ash and get the Yata Mirror back?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: CozySquirtle on January 28, 2021, 10:19:17 pm
Let's not forget about Kusanagi-Yagami Team (Kyo, Iori and Shingo) from 'The King Of Fighters XI'. I believe this could make a return.

But wasn't that only a team because Chizuru asked Shingo to join the two after she lost her powers, so they could stop Ash and get the Yata Mirror back?

This is correct, but one could only hope that said team makes a comeback. It could only be me, but I thought the team was unique, imo.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 29, 2021, 01:33:19 am
I hope this never happens again.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 29, 2021, 01:40:34 am
I hope this never happens again.

You hope what never happens again. :0
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 29, 2021, 02:01:51 am
I hope this never happens again.

You hope what never happens again. :0

Kyo and Iori on the same team. It was stupid in XI and it would be stupid if it happened again.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 29, 2021, 02:50:48 am
I mean I wouldn't call it stupid if it's got plot relevance. They had reason to be on the same team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 29, 2021, 03:34:58 am
Yeah, with Ash specifically targeting the 3 sacred treasures and Iori being the next target, the team was relevant. When else is this team-up going to happen.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 29, 2021, 03:42:50 am
I mean, you never know.

Look I'm just trying to find excuses for Shingo and Chizuru to come back even though their plot relevance is so miniscule that there's really no way of them returning effectively as of now. ;-;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 29, 2021, 04:26:10 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Es3ePBIVgAAQQAG?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 29, 2021, 04:33:11 am
So basically...

Edgy protagonist, tired best friend, and flamboyant dad figure.

... ya know all three of these character blurbs have talked about character relationships. Connections, bonds, and growth and development. I like it, and I hope that the story lives up to this. I do like seeing characters interact, develop, and grow off each other.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 29, 2021, 04:56:32 am
For a moment I thought that image was Jhun Hoon and we would be getting a Team Fans with him, Shingo, and Alice in the mix.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 29, 2021, 04:59:21 am
For a moment I thought that image was Jhun Hoon and we would be getting a Team Fans with him, Shingo, and Alice in the mix.

That would still be an acceptably dorky and likable team... fingers cross it exists. Someday.



(My brain, for a long time, always continues to read that as "Jay-Hoon Hoon" lol
I know it's not, but for some reason my brain just wants to read it like that.)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mgbenz on January 29, 2021, 04:33:01 pm
I hope this never happens again.

You hope what never happens again. :0

Kyo and Iori on the same team. It was stupid in XI and it would be stupid if it happened again.

You're under the assumption that Iori has ever been cooperative with any team he is on. He has only barely if ever tolerated his teammates. He started out his first appearance in 95 teamed up with Eiji and Billy who outright loathe him. The only reason Vice and Mature keep forcing themselves on him is because they want him to fully give in to his Orochi powers. He outright murdered them back in 97.

Him teaming up with Kyo and Chizuru makes the most sense story-wise than him being tied to anyone else in the series roster.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 29, 2021, 04:56:45 pm
Wow, SNK really makes an effort to make Iori a total bitch, don't they?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on January 29, 2021, 05:04:36 pm
iori belongs with vice and mature more than chizuru and kyo
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 29, 2021, 05:57:06 pm
Iori really doesn’t belong with ANYONE... but at the end of the day the two people he’s surprisingly the most mature with are Kyo and Chizuru, due to dealing with Orochi and the Hakkesshu. And with Benimaru’s unexpected team swap I can’t see Iori sticking with his usual team this time.

Perhaps the reason Benimaru joined Shun’s team is cause Chizuru already arranged the sacred treasures team after Orochi’s sudden attempted revival following the defeat of Verse. Again, sure they’re really only supposed to be bothered with Orochi... but by this point anything can happen and ANYTHING can cause him to reawaken at this point so it would be likely that all three would be on guard. Especially considering by this point when is a KOF tournament not shrouded in some evil bullshit that happens by the tourney’s end?

It would be dumb of them to start slacking now that a bunch of long dead people have returned to life — among them Orochi and Rugal.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on January 29, 2021, 06:18:01 pm
KOF Fan speculation is always wild

(https://i.imgur.com/VbRORG0.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on January 29, 2021, 06:29:11 pm
I hope this never happens again.

You hope what never happens again. :0

Kyo and Iori on the same team. It was stupid in XI and it would be stupid if it happened again.

You're under the assumption that Iori has ever been cooperative with any team he is on. He has only barely if ever tolerated his teammates. He started out his first appearance in 95 teamed up with Eiji and Billy who outright loathe him. The only reason Vice and Mature keep forcing themselves on him is because they want him to fully give in to his Orochi powers. He outright murdered them back in 97.

Him teaming up with Kyo and Chizuru makes the most sense story-wise than him being tied to anyone else in the series roster.

What If Shingo legit pops up outta nowhere and is a part of Kusanagi Team. I mean I would not be surprised to see him back but I will be happy.

Also I guess the Rival Teams might have Kukri a the captain since there is some animosity between Shunei and him.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 29, 2021, 06:56:42 pm
KOF Fan speculation is always wild

https://i.imgur.com/VbRORG0.png
Nah, Rugal was assumed to come back since XIV revived everyone, there's no way SNK made a show of reviving every dead character (except fuck Orochi apparently) but skip one of the most iconic boss of the series. I'm not hoping he's the single boss though, just have him running around being an angry boy, they shouldn't waste a game focused on Rugal again when they have a story to move forward. They had to remove Orochi because they couldn't have him and not be the big threat, meaning they wanted to move on with the new story (I still hope he'll return in a new form someday) but Rugal can still be around and not be the boss. I'd also like to see some rivalry between Rugal and Geese, the early games were hinting that Geese knew Rugal from business stuff.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 29, 2021, 07:58:25 pm
For a moment I thought that image was Jhun Hoon and we would be getting a Team Fans with him, Shingo, and Alice in the mix.

WTF ! Exact same reation I had.

I was about to post the exact same message :D


Actually, It would look a nice J Hoon redesign
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 30, 2021, 01:03:09 pm
I doubt Iori will be in Kyo's team, especially since I'm like 99% sure that Mature & Vice are returning (since they're like SUPER POPULAR).

If not, it'll probably be Kyo + Iori + ??? and Mature + Vice + ???
Fingers crossed it's Rugal.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 30, 2021, 01:46:45 pm
I doubt Iori will be in Kyo's team, especially since I'm like 99% sure that Mature & Vice are returning (since they're like SUPER POPULAR).

If not, it'll probably be Kyo + Iori + ??? and Mature + Vice + ???
Fingers crossed it's Rugal.

Would be incredibly awesome !
Rugal + Mature + Vice... Hopefull the last 2 redesigned a bit...

I just cannot wait for the next trailer, even if I don't know why, but I feel like it will be one the characters we already saw in 1st teaser.
But certainly upgraded, since, in newer trailers, you can clearly see some graphics upgrade, even in the background elements.

I just want to be surprised, now. With good surprises...
Let's see if they shatter all exceptations... ;)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 30, 2021, 01:59:48 pm
I believe it's in due time, but help me out here, what team would the return of Wolfgang Krauser potentially bring?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 30, 2021, 02:54:39 pm
I believe it's in due time, but help me out here, what team would the return of Wolfgang Krauser potentially bring?

I have NO idea, beside of the classic boss team... ^^;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 30, 2021, 06:16:09 pm
I believe it's in due time, but help me out here, what team would the return of Wolfgang Krauser potentially bring?

It would be Krauser and two Krauser palette swaps -- Bauser and Wauser.

I'll leave now.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on January 30, 2021, 06:23:06 pm
I believe it's in due time, but help me out here, what team would the return of Wolfgang Krauser potentially bring?

Utter pipe dream here I think... but a team of Krauser, Laurence Blood and Axel Hawk would be kinda awesome. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on January 30, 2021, 07:07:49 pm
krauser would be dope if he returns , he's the only snk boss who didn't had a master plan he just wanted to fight.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Seadragon77 on January 30, 2021, 07:19:51 pm
krauser would be dope if he returns , he's the only snk boss who didn't had a master plan he just wanted to fight.

Another bonus of his potential return - classical music for him (or the team he's on)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 30, 2021, 08:01:37 pm
Geese Rugal Krauser, easy. Each with their own boss music.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ShadowHand BXR on January 30, 2021, 08:50:03 pm
Hey, this guys brain is actually working, look at that!
Hey, this can be KOFs time to  introduce guests, Ryu/Chun,  DictatorBison, or the other guys. From Fighting Layer. I dont care for Fighting Layer but you know its good to give em a leg up, i also want to see that guy Goku from DBZ, now that would turn heads
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 30, 2021, 09:03:05 pm
Hey, this guys brain is actually working, look at that!
Hey, this can be KOFs time to  introduce guests, Ryu/Chun,  DictatorBison, or the other guys. From Fighting Layer. I dont care for Fighting Layer but you know its good to give em a leg up, i also want to see that guy Goku from DBZ, now that would turn heads

This entire sarcastic post is so unnecessarily douchey jfc lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NoilKaizen on January 30, 2021, 09:17:43 pm
Momoko coming back would be neat for *me*, but it's very unlikely, given the fact that we're doing teams of three and she's a fourth wheel.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on January 30, 2021, 09:57:38 pm
Main non-antagonist character I wanna see return is Shen, full stop. Give us back the concept of characters who join a fighting tournament for the sole purpose of fighting: No deep inner plot, no trying to conquer their inner demons, no journey to quell a sleeping evil, just someone who hears about a tournament and just goes "Imma do that." lol

As far as completely new characters/characters that haven't made a playable appearance in a KOF game just yet, Laurence Blood is definitely up there for me. Also wanna see them do something with Syo Kirishima, honestly.. I also kinda wanna know more about Gustav Munchausen and just how he managed to find out about Goenitz and Orochi in general, but I severely doubt they'd do anything with him after his initial appearance, he just seemed to lose and just bounce lol. I know those last two are more MUGEN characters at this point more than anything lol but still.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 30, 2021, 10:07:13 pm
Hope for non-mainline kof games references is still a thing ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 30, 2021, 10:27:43 pm
Give us back the concept of characters who join a fighting tournament for the sole purpose of fighting: No deep inner plot, no trying to conquer their inner demons, no journey to quell a sleeping evil...
Only thing comes to mind is "Devour-our-our"
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 30, 2021, 10:50:28 pm
Those are some great ideas for Krauser, I'd just love to see him back. He got a great moveset.


Momoko? I would love an aged Momoko to return. She'd be the Christie Monteiro, and I'd love that, since Richard and Bob are too busy running the bar.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on January 30, 2021, 11:29:47 pm
Hey, this guys brain is actually working, look at that!
Hey, this can be KOFs time to  introduce guests, Ryu/Chun,  DictatorBison, or the other guys. From Fighting Layer. I dont care for Fighting Layer but you know its good to give em a leg up, i also want to see that guy Goku from DBZ, now that would turn heads

Why do I want Shantae in KOF now? Other company characters in SNK games have never been on the base roster; they've been either DLCs or merely hidden if we count MI.


Momoko? I would love an aged Momoko to return. She'd be the Christie Monteiro, and I'd love that, since Richard and Bob are too busy running the bar.

Her, Hinako, May, and Malin all coming back would be cool. Aging optional, but would be nice. At least to around Athena/Yuri's age.

Main non-antagonist character I wanna see return is Shen, full stop. Give us back the concept of characters who join a fighting tournament for the sole purpose of fighting: No deep inner plot, no trying to conquer their inner demons, no journey to quell a sleeping evil, just someone who hears about a tournament and just goes "Imma do that." lol

As far as completely new characters/characters that haven't made a playable appearance in a KOF game just yet, Laurence Blood is definitely up there for me. Also wanna see them do something with Syo Kirishima, honestly.. I also kinda wanna know more about Gustav Munchausen and just how he managed to find out about Goenitz and Orochi in general, but I severely doubt they'd do anything with him after his initial appearance, he just seemed to lose and just bounce lol. I know those last two are more MUGEN characters at this point more than anything lol but still.

The franchise does need more "E. Honda" type characters who fight for the sake of battle. Like the American Sports Team. Getting Syo as a proper fighter would be cool.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 31, 2021, 12:37:35 am
Shen's cool tho.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 31, 2021, 12:51:45 am
Shen is one of my fave KOF characters cause he was the first KOF character I ever saw. I can’t believe I didn’t think of wanting him until now. He would be amazing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 31, 2021, 01:02:50 am
Not gonna lie.  I just want Shen back so when Hellpockets commentates again just for him to shout "BURN YOUR FIST IN THE SKY" once more just like in the '12 EVO finals.

Quote
The franchise does need more "E. Honda" type characters who fight for the sake of battle
Honda's whole motive in the tournament was to promote sumo worldwide tho.

There's Luong who fights for thrills just because and she's a recent entry to the cast.  Hoping XV expands on her backstory.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 31, 2021, 01:36:07 am
Is it just me or is Shen and Miguel (from Tekken) quite similar in fighting style?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 31, 2021, 01:39:09 am
I don't really see how you can compare Shen's 3 and a half moves (punch ! punch, but up ! headbutt ! backfist swing ! And for his supers... punch, but big ! and uh get stronger) to anything beyond "have no martial finesse and throw a bigass punch". His ultimate is fire though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 31, 2021, 01:41:41 am
Is it just me or is Shen and Miguel (from Tekken) quite similar in fighting style?



Open shirt gangster is a trope, friend

I first encountered it with Sagara Sanosuke
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 31, 2021, 01:43:08 am
Idk. Just seem similar.

Found this;

(https://i.imgur.com/YsjwCTl.jpg)


Is it just me or is Shen and Miguel (from Tekken) quite similar in fighting style?



Open shirt gangster is a trope, friend

I first encountered it with Sagara Sanosuke


Kenshin! Awesome anime/manga!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 31, 2021, 03:58:29 am
I'd be fine with any OG's coming back for XV.

As long as no dumb guest characters show their ugly faces into the roster.

I don't wanna see Tekken 7 happening to KOF XV.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 31, 2021, 04:24:19 am
Tekken 7, the perfect 3D fighting game. Akuma and Geese, best bloody guests ever. Noctis (arguably) and Negan (especially), WHAT THE HECK.


I agree with you, but I think by SNK's willingness to contribute something is possible. I'd say a Tekken guest or a FULL (being bold) TEAM from Tekken is a possibility, most likely? No. A guest? Yes.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 31, 2021, 05:03:42 am
Guys they already have a guest character in here -- Mai from Dead or Alive.

In all seriousness, I like guest characters. I wouldn't be against them in KOF. I'm not asking for them, but hey... it'd be pretty crazy. I wouldn't mind, though I'd prefer other characters over any guest 3rd party reps.

I think, if they ever do a guest character... and only one, like a single entry DLC, I think it'd... HAVE to be Ryu.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 31, 2021, 06:59:07 am
Would not surprise me being Heihachi, Kasumi and Ryu. (Team Invite)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 31, 2021, 08:46:12 am
Geese, Rugal, Heihachi.

Team Bad Dads.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 31, 2021, 08:51:03 am
Neglect, I fucking died and Thrown of a fucking volcano.



Dads of the year.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 31, 2021, 09:02:34 am
“I had a son?”, “My son’s still alive?”, and “Fuck family amiright”

Killer team lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on January 31, 2021, 09:14:03 am
They changed voice for Benimaru.
We're gonna miss Monster.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 31, 2021, 09:49:01 am
They changed voice for Benimaru.
We're gonna miss Monster.

Wait wut?
It ain't Monster anymore? Can I get a source for that?

Cuz that means Choi (also voiced by Monster) might be replaced too, when both chars are iconic as hell.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on January 31, 2021, 10:51:33 am
Guys they already have a guest character in here -- Mai from Dead or Alive.

Nope. Mai is a guest character in DoA, aswell Kula too.

Mai comes from Fatal Fury(as Terry, Joe, etc), while Kula is KoF speciffic.

Also, I can accept one, two as much guest characters in a game. There was no need in turning Tekken 7 in a mugen fangame. Gouki is kinda understable for 2 reasons, 1 is his background story(fullflling a promie to Kazumi) AND a possible opener to the long awaited Tekken vs Street Fighter, seeing how SF physics, projectiles etc works in a Tekken game.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 31, 2021, 11:08:38 am
Guys they already have a guest character in here -- Mai from Dead or Alive.

Nope. Mai is a guest character in DoA, aswell Kula too.

Mai comes from Fatal Fury(as Terry, Joe, etc), while Kula is KoF speciffic.

Also, I can accept one, two as much guest characters in a game. There was no need in turning Tekken 7 in a mugen fangame. Gouki is kinda understable for 2 reasons, 1 is his background story(fullflling a promie to Kazumi) AND a possible opener to the long awaited Tekken vs Street Fighter, seeing how SF physics, projectiles etc works in a Tekken game.



I think that was a joke hahaha...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: AlexSin on January 31, 2021, 11:18:28 am
It was, in fact he followed the joke with "In all seriousness[...]" meaning he was joking.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 31, 2021, 05:39:45 pm
Yeah... it was a joke haha.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 31, 2021, 08:20:04 pm
Gouki/Akuma in Tekken 7 did make sense for sure, but Geese and Heihachi, it's just something badass about that crossover that I'd hope it would repeat itself at some point. (Outside of KoF All-Stars that is)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on January 31, 2021, 08:56:18 pm
Guys they already have a guest character in here -- Mai from Dead or Alive.

Nope. Mai is a guest character in DoA, aswell Kula too.

Mai comes from Fatal Fury(as Terry, Joe, etc), while Kula is KoF speciffic.

Also, I can accept one, two as much guest characters in a game. There was no need in turning Tekken 7 in a mugen fangame. Gouki is kinda understable for 2 reasons, 1 is his background story(fullflling a promie to Kazumi) AND a possible opener to the long awaited Tekken vs Street Fighter, seeing how SF physics, projectiles etc works in a Tekken game.



wait terry isn't from smash brothers?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 31, 2021, 08:57:45 pm
wait terry isn't from smash brothers?

Nope.

He's actually from Fighting EX Layer.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 31, 2021, 08:59:30 pm
wait terry isn't from smash brothers?

Nope.

He's actually from Fighting EX Layer.

You are both clearly wrong. He is from Street Fighter. He just got a hat.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lurker on January 31, 2021, 09:38:45 pm
They changed voice for Benimaru.
We're gonna miss Monster.

When? His real name was on the trailer.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 31, 2021, 09:46:18 pm
Make me think, the first time they announced Mai in Doa5, I felt like... Wait ! You already have your own "Mai" (Momiji) kind of.

To come back to KOFXV subject.
I feel like they will not take many risks with "many" new comers this time.
I can definitely be wrong. I want to see the next trailer... their method worked on me, at least right now ^^;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on February 01, 2021, 12:50:32 am
Guys they already have a guest character in here -- Mai from Dead or Alive.

Nope. Mai is a guest character in DoA, aswell Kula too.

Mai comes from Fatal Fury(as Terry, Joe, etc), while Kula is KoF speciffic.

Also, I can accept one, two as much guest characters in a game. There was no need in turning Tekken 7 in a mugen fangame. Gouki is kinda understable for 2 reasons, 1 is his background story(fullflling a promie to Kazumi) AND a possible opener to the long awaited Tekken vs Street Fighter, seeing how SF physics, projectiles etc works in a Tekken game.



wait terry isn't from smash brothers?

No, he's from Chun Li's pachinko game
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 01, 2021, 04:44:34 am
KOF Fan speculation is always wild

(https://i.imgur.com/VbRORG0.png)

Pretty much this hahahaha xD

I was one of the few around KOF forums that said "ok, that chinese outfit for Benimaru means something important". I knew it!
Now with the confirmation of Beni on Team Hero... What about Kyo's team? Many people around is betting for Kyo, Daimon and Shingo or even the return of the Sacred Treasures Team, which means the return of Chizuru. (finally?)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on February 02, 2021, 03:26:21 am
Under the Control: HERO TEAM (OST)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on February 02, 2021, 10:20:48 am
Going back through the KOF XIV endings, the AoF team ending had Takuma, Robert and Yuri going on about the BBQ place the were running and Ryo and Khushnood/Marco being all pissed and wanting to go off on their own. Could we see a new AoF team with Ryo, Marco and a new face? Or the return of Takuma with Robert and Yuri?

(Watch as it's Ryo, Robert and Yuri again! :P )
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on February 02, 2021, 03:25:20 pm
As long as they keep calling him Khushnood, or at least have the decency to retcon his "alt" name into something in portuguese and not the obviously spanish version he has. An appropriate name would be "Marcos Rodrigues", or at least just change the surname.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on February 02, 2021, 03:56:43 pm
KOF Fan speculation is always wild

(https://i.imgur.com/VbRORG0.png)

Pretty much this hahahaha xD

I was one of the few around KOF forums that said "ok, that chinese outfit for Benimaru means something important". I knew it!
Now with the confirmation of Beni on Team Hero... What about Kyo's team? Many people around is betting for Kyo, Daimon and Shingo or even the return of the Sacred Treasures Team, which means the return of Chizuru. (finally?)

who else is the most iconic boss in kof franchise? i've got a gut feeling that adelheid will be playable in this game and probably setup the return of rugal.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on February 03, 2021, 05:45:23 am
New stand anim
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on February 03, 2021, 08:18:46 am
Is it just me or does Benimaru's pose look super awkward?

He should bounce up and down, not sway from left to right.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 03, 2021, 02:08:31 pm
Didn't like Beni's pose aswell. But Meiten's is way better and funniest.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 03, 2021, 02:30:31 pm
I start to be more and more disgusted by some lazy-ass animations in some modern 2D fighting games...
Just like Sakura's normal moves in SFV and many others...

But yes, time is money. why paying skilled animators to do something good.

Hopefully this can be updated later.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on February 03, 2021, 04:40:17 pm
Sakura animation in SFV are far from being lazy lmao
I think shun ei and meiten looks pretty good. Benimaru stance actually seems pretty similar to his older one so I dont really have much issue with it
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on February 03, 2021, 04:43:33 pm
The thing about being like the older one... is that this isn't the older one, so it should have been an improvement.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on February 03, 2021, 05:19:32 pm
Is it just me or does Benimaru's pose look super awkward?

He should bounce up and down, not sway from left to right.

It is modeled to be exactly the same as the one from XIII, and about the same as XIV but with a more stylized pose. Since Benimaru is a 100% Jojo inspired character they need to go the extra mile with the dynamic "awkward pose"

Not a bug, but a feature. It looks great to me.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 03, 2021, 05:31:05 pm
Sakura animation in SFV are far from being lazy lmao

I will not go too deep into it, because everyone have his own level to accept effort put into art/animation/music etc.
Sakura's SF4 animations were (from my own point of view) really dynamic. Using some of the best "rules" "advices" of animation.
SF5 didn't for some of the animations, particularly Sakura's normals. when some other moves are very well animated.
exemple.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

About Benimaru, the pose is pretty OK to me.
Perhaps just the "frame" of animation itself gives a strange feeling.
a bit too artificial or something, hard to explain.
But again, everyone have his own acceptation of such work.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on February 03, 2021, 06:18:10 pm
Is it just me or does Benimaru's pose look super awkward?

He should bounce up and down, not sway from left to right.

It is modeled to be exactly the same as the one from XIII, and about the same as XIV but with a more stylized pose. Since Benimaru is a 100% Jojo inspired character they need to go the extra mile with the dynamic "awkward pose"

Not a bug, but a feature. It looks great to me.

Yeah... After seeing it a few more times, I guess it grew on me.
It doesn't look as bad as I first glanced at it.

But why can't SNK 3D models move smoothly like SFV or Tekken?
Their stiffness looks as if it's still PS2 era.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on February 03, 2021, 06:27:30 pm
Dont want to derail to much about sakura but her animation are simply different. Her normal arent suppose to be the same as in SF4. Her animation are more focus since she is more experienced in V compare to 4. But again dont want to derail it to more.

Back to benimura and yeah his stance is pretty similar to his KOF13 one with slightly more movement. Still looks fine to me
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 03, 2021, 06:49:22 pm
The only animation that this game is obligated to nail perfectly is Kim’s pants.

That’s all that matters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on February 03, 2021, 10:34:18 pm
The only animation that this game is obligated to nail perfectly is Kim’s pants.

That’s all that matters.

This made me chuckle, not gonna lie. Before Kim's pants was '98 Heidern's Heavy Kick, which always seemed to be grossly over animated compared to other normal attacks, but I didn't care as it was a thing of beauty.  :mlol:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Bannana on February 03, 2021, 10:41:33 pm
Going back through the KOF XIV endings, the AoF team ending had Takuma, Robert and Yuri going on about the BBQ place the were running and Ryo and Khushnood/Marco being all pissed and wanting to go off on their own. Could we see a new AoF team with Ryo, Marco and a new face? Or the return of Takuma with Robert and Yuri?

(Watch as it's Ryo, Robert and Yuri again! :P )

Marco is a little too similar to other Kyokugen in a way that they might not want to remove any other Kyokugen character for him. I think Robert not being in XI was a pretty big shake up, but he wasn't outright replaced with kyokugen so :p

Jenet, Gato, and Tizoc didn't really replace any core characters, and I couldn't see them doing anything even  like adding in Kim's sons, so there might not be any real Garou love coming around. Rock's probably the closest you'd get to it

One day they'll give us the meme team like they did with Duck King and maybe throw in some Fatal Fury characters like they did with Tung in XIV. Cheng should definitely come back at some point.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Niitris on February 03, 2021, 11:29:45 pm
Quote
Benimaru
The pose is stylized to look "dynamic" for lack of a better word. It's intentional and very much in character. Pretty much what Walt said.

Quote
Sakura
Her keyframes are weak compared to SFIV. Whoever did her posing could've done better in giving her motions more "whip." SFV animations are fine for the most part, Sakura unfortunately got a lower quality motion-artist. :P

But why can't SNK 3D models move smoothly like SFV or Tekken?
Their stiffness looks as if it's still PS2 era.
3D KoF animations are throttled in a way where windup to strike is too sudden, giving a unsmooth, "spastic" feeling. Probably intentional to emulate 2D sprite games as much as possible. Also makes sense since some animations date back to KoF XII.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on February 04, 2021, 03:17:02 am
Iori Yagami Trailer
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 04, 2021, 03:23:55 am
Iori's jacket gives me hope for Kim's pants.

Plus since characters are getting revealed by the teams... next week is the next member of his team. If it's Mature/Vice, we know where this team is going.

If it's Kyo... oh boy.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on February 04, 2021, 03:28:40 am
So Iori has somehow acquired water manipulation judging from his Desperation Move.

For real tho, not feeling that FX.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on February 04, 2021, 03:41:03 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtWOy7VVkAAXM1o?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtWO0rTVIAMiyoL?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtWO1lUVcAEsa6r?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtWO2fgVIAEfgCb?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Bannana on February 04, 2021, 03:55:17 am
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/138120117635514368/806711219351977994/unknown.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on February 04, 2021, 04:50:49 am
He jacket looks nice, but I kinda miss the white in there. At least it looks better than his XIV jacket imo.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on February 04, 2021, 05:01:55 am
Iori Yagami Trailer
[youtube]https://youtu.be/XeAg8B2Vyeg[/youtube]

Wow, I can't believe they just showed the best CLIMAX in the game already. Bold move, SNK.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 04, 2021, 05:34:36 am
yeah the trailer was increible they really shatter all expectations.! this time.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 04, 2021, 05:42:50 am
While it was no surprise Iori would be in this game, seeing him is still really hype. Rewatching the trailer, I just really like the way he moves.

I love his design too, I think he looks very sleek here. It feels like a more modern update of his classic design this time.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on February 04, 2021, 06:30:18 am
My only complaint is that KOF XV's reveals are very slow it feels like...

XIV had multiple characters being revealed per teaser.

One character every week feels slow and tiresome.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 04, 2021, 06:32:58 am
My only complaint is that KOF XV's reveals are very slow it feels like...

XIV had multiple characters being revealed per teaser.

One character every week feels slow and tiresome.

This I agree with completely. I feel it would be a bit more exciting if it was a team reveal per week.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ShadowHand BXR on February 04, 2021, 09:23:11 am
Sakura animation in SFV are far from being lazy lmao

I will not go too deep into it, because everyone have his own level to accept effort put into art/animation/music etc.
Sakura's SF4 animations were (from my own point of view) really dynamic. Using some of the best "rules" "advices" of animation.
SF5 didn't for some of the animations, particularly Sakura's normals. when some other moves are very well animated.
exemple.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

About Benimaru, the pose is pretty OK to me.
Perhaps just the "frame" of animation itself gives a strange feeling.
a bit too artificial or something, hard to explain.
But again, everyone have his own acceptation of such work.

Yea this nigga is right on that, SFV Sakuras animation is pretty much ass tier. Meaning it sucks ass. I would confirm lazy attemlt (even though i didnt see the animator working his ass off)
Even if it wasnt lazy, you can see just how bad it is. Cody has very bad animations. That Lucia bish also feels kinda wierd.. Well that leaves idiot G..

KOF XV
Man that Iori soul crushing Shun F'n Ei is really messed up.. He shouldve demo'd that on.. Wait.. If i was KoF i would DLC this Iori, but i hate Iori anyways. Its gonna be a pain to fight this bastard
So like , guys and gals, wasn't this costume created here in Mugenguild or by creators here that made that jacket look ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 04, 2021, 09:54:23 am
Sakura animation in SFV are far from being lazy lmao

I will not go too deep into it, because everyone have his own level to accept effort put into art/animation/music etc.
Sakura's SF4 animations were (from my own point of view) really dynamic. Using some of the best "rules" "advices" of animation.
SF5 didn't for some of the animations, particularly Sakura's normals. when some other moves are very well animated.
exemple.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

About Benimaru, the pose is pretty OK to me.
Perhaps just the "frame" of animation itself gives a strange feeling.
a bit too artificial or something, hard to explain.
But again, everyone have his own acceptation of such work.

Yea this nigga is right on that, SFV Sakuras animation is pretty much ass tier. Meaning it sucks ass. I would confirm lazy attemlt (even though i didnt see the animator working his ass off)
Even if it wasnt lazy, you can see just how bad it is. Cody has very bad animations. That Lucia bish also feels kinda wierd.. Well that leaves idiot G..

KOF XV
Man that Iori soul crushing Shun F'n Ei is really messed up.. He shouldve demo'd that on.. Wait.. If i was KoF i would DLC this Iori, but i hate Iori anyways. Its gonna be a pain to fight this bastard
So like , guys and gals, wasn't this costume created here in Mugenguild or by creators here that made that jacket look ?

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Yea this nigga

English is not my mother language, but this "N" word sounds a bit... anyway...

About Capcom.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

About KOF.
The trailer is extremely good this time, Iori looks very badass, I still have some plastic effect or something, but it will be fixed later.
His animations are pretty OK to me. and his design is one of the best, glad they gave him this appearance... The hair is great.
Also, just like Kolossoni said, I feel like I didn't get enough... Very frustrating.

My feeling is (JUST MY FEELING, OK?) is that they are in a rush to work full time on any character, because not much is completed right now.
Something like "let's complete this character at 75%, so in 3 days, we can show a trailer to the community." (to simulate a complete character)
So giving it, drop by drop every week could be a way to "temporize" the showing of game, and "building" the game actually, since it's far to be ready to play. Again, it's JUST my point of view (and sorry for the lame english)

Guys, who do you thing would be the other team members ?
It's certainly early to tell, but could it be someone else than Vice and Mature? ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 04, 2021, 11:04:59 am
English is not my mother language, but this "N" word sounds a bit... anyway...
Different word. The "a" one is common.

Those flames look super weird. Like those old awful Photoshop filters. The XII design was the best, I don't like the long jacket, but it's still a bit better than the XIV one. The velvet touch looks nice.
I'm super bummed they ditched the Yatagarasu (probably to get away from the Orochi stuff), but the new Homura Hotogi looks okay. Maybe Orochi Iori will be a separate spot.
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Aoi hana again
Ugh
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on February 04, 2021, 01:11:56 pm
So Iori's regained his flames and the old moveset looks like it's back as it were, but there were a few slash type attacks in there, I'm guessing it's just his normals/command normals?

Either way, I like the new look even if he does wail like Yamazaki in the Climax. :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 04, 2021, 04:08:16 pm
He seems identical to XIV, with the new upward attack at the end of EX Aoi Hana, I guess that's what you saw.
(I hope at least he doesn't have that incredibly dumb super with a super slow spark that moves like 2 feet in front of him)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on February 04, 2021, 04:13:24 pm
English is not my mother language, but this "N" word sounds a bit... anyway...
Different word. The "a" one is common.
I may not come from an English speaking country, but even I know that is a lie. Never, in any place, have I seen any variation of the n-word being considered acceptable.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on February 04, 2021, 04:14:32 pm
He jacket looks nice, but I kinda miss the white in there. At least it looks better than his XIV jacket imo.

Yeah it looks like another iori which is cool
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 04, 2021, 04:23:37 pm
I may not come from an English speaking country, but even I know that is a lie. Never, in any place, have I seen any variation of the n-word being considered acceptable.
... it's common among Black people. White people don't usually use it afaik.
Stop being weird, guys.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 04, 2021, 04:38:35 pm
I may not come from an English speaking country, but even I know that is a lie. Never, in any place, have I seen any variation of the n-word being considered acceptable.

White people can't say it but black people can. Nuff said.



Anyhoo how about we leap back into KOF XV. Who will his teammates be? Mature and Vice again?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on February 04, 2021, 04:54:41 pm
Anyhoo how about we leap back into KOF XV. Who will his teammates be? Mature and Vice again?

I want Chizuru, so I'm hoping it's her and that toolbag Kyo to reunite the Three Sacred Treasures team but I can't think of a lore-related reason for that to happen.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 04, 2021, 05:13:21 pm
I'm assuming they're showing teams starting with the leader, you know a Sacred Treasures team would have started with Kyo. The secretaries are still the most obvious expectation. I just hope they return to the XIII designs and not those super weird shoulder slits. Mature's XII design was a banger (and with Iori's XII design they looked like a nice little family with matching outfits too)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 04, 2021, 05:48:15 pm
I'm assuming they're showing teams starting with the leader, you know a Sacred Treasures team would have started with Kyo. The secretaries are still the most obvious expectation. I just hope they return to the XIII designs and not those super weird shoulder slits. Mature's XII design was a banger (and with Iori's XII design they looked like a nice little family with matching outfits too)

I think the same! Particularly for these 2 secretaries design...
I'm still open to a reinterpretation of their classic design with a new touch on it.

English is not my mother language, but this "N" word sounds a bit... anyway...
Different word. The "a" one is common.
I may not come from an English speaking country, but even I know that is a lie. Never, in any place, have I seen any variation of the n-word being considered acceptable.

I thought like you. Thanks for confirming.
Anyway...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 04, 2021, 05:58:29 pm
Expectations: Mature and Vice on Iori’s team.

Game’s tag line: Shatter all expectations.

Someone’s losing ground here.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on February 04, 2021, 06:33:52 pm
He seems identical to XIV, with the new upward attack at the end of EX Aoi Hana, I guess that's what you saw.
(I hope at least he doesn't have that incredibly dumb super with a super slow spark that moves like 2 feet in front of him)

Must admit... I don't use Iori. I've always gone for King, Andy and Robert where possible. I'm hoping that they're changed up a little if they return, but I'm actually interested in Iori now.  As for his team? I'm assuming Mature and Vice, although I'm secretly hoping (I know it won't happen!) that Billy and Eiji end up with him again. :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 04, 2021, 07:34:22 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/5R9BAc8.png)
Yep, that was me when i saw Iori's Climax. :v

Surely this outfit is WAY BETTER than that crap on KOF XIV and highly remind me of the "Another Iori" on KOF 2000, that is based on Shinkiro's art.
But that Climax tho! Damn! :)

For real tho, not feeling that FX.

I'm with you Kirishima, the FX is kinda weird.

Guys, who do you thing would be the other team members ?
It's certainly early to tell, but could it be someone else than Vice and Mature? ^^

Still bet on the Sacred Treasures Team (Kyo, Iori and Chizuru).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Bannana on February 04, 2021, 08:31:03 pm
I agree the flames look weird, very little impact. They're definitely using effekseer like they did with Samsho 2019, and while most effects come out great in it, I've had trouble getting convincing flames from it at times.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on February 04, 2021, 09:01:14 pm
I really hope SNK means it by "Shatter all expectations".

If I have to wait one week for Mature/Vice, and one more for the second one, then it's not my expectations that's shattered, rather my patience and excitement lol.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 04, 2021, 09:04:30 pm
I really hope SNK means it by "Shatter all expectations".

If I have to wait one week for Mature/Vice, and one more for the second one, then it's not my expectations that's shattered, rather my patience and excitement lol.

EXACTLY.

The expected Yagami team can't come next. I mean SNK knows this, right? They know that Iori/Mature/Vice has been the trio for a long time now.

If they wanna shatter all expectations they should be conscious that repeating this team would not shatter all expectations.

...... then again maybe we're all expecting the unexpected and they'll use the expected team to shatter our expectations of our expectations being shattered.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 04, 2021, 09:09:01 pm
I really hope SNK means it by "Shatter all expectations".

If I have to wait one week for Mature/Vice, and one more for the second one, then it's not my expectations that's shattered, rather my patience and excitement lol.

EXACTLY.

The expected Yagami team can't come next. I mean SNK knows this, right? They know that Iori/Mature/Vice has been the trio for a long time now.

If they wanna shatter all expectations they should be conscious that repeating this team would not shatter all expectations.

...... then again maybe we're all expecting the unexpected and they'll use the expected team to shatter our expectations of our expectations being shattered.

Yes, this is why I asked your thoughs.
I felt like they want to make kind of surprise like Beni beiing part of a mostly Chinese team.

So, yes, chances they do something "new."

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on February 05, 2021, 01:02:34 am
I think Iori will be getting an all new team this time. I personally think they may bring back the idea they originally had for XII of him teamibg up with Oswald and a newcomer.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: QuickFist on February 05, 2021, 01:30:29 am
XI* I think, but yeah, I'm a big Iori fan and I'd like for him to have other teammates than Mature and Vice, yes, it's a super iconic team, but, we can always use some change
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on February 05, 2021, 02:09:48 am
What if we got Iori’s ORIGINAL team from 95 (Eiji and Billy) instead of the usual or Three Sacred Treasures?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 05, 2021, 02:20:20 am
What if we got Iori’s ORIGINAL team from 95 (Eiji and Billy) instead of the usual or Three Sacred Treasures?

They'd need one hell of a story reason for them to get together again considering they all detest each other and Iori beat them both the hell up (though, if I remember correctly, that was due to the Riot of the Blood... but I could be remembering wrong).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 05, 2021, 04:20:56 am


Smooth. :3
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on February 05, 2021, 04:51:04 am
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBX67I5dwWc[/youtube]

Smooth. :3

Hmmmm. with that OST, I'll 100 percent wager that his teammates are going to be Vice & Mature.

No way that Kyo & Chizuru, or whoever is the 3rd supposed candidate will share Saxophone under the Moon (or Stormy Saxophone) unless it's the two ladies.

The OST kinda sold it tbh.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 05, 2021, 06:08:49 am
If it's Mature and Vice, then they're actively sabotaging their own tagline in the most preventable way possible lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: JudaiZX on February 05, 2021, 06:11:10 am
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBX67I5dwWc[/youtube]

Smooth. :3

Hmmmm. with that OST, I'll 100 percent wager that his teammates are going to be Vice & Mature.

No way that Kyo & Chizuru, or whoever is the 3rd supposed candidate will share Saxophone under the Moon (or Stormy Saxophone) unless it's the two ladies.

The OST kinda sold it tbh.

Inb4 we get separate character themes instead of just one team theme this time.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on February 05, 2021, 06:12:04 am
If it's Mature and Vice, then they're actively sabotaging their own tagline in the most preventable way possible lol

Hahaha yeah.

Another theory would be Iori and Kyo entering as single characters without a specific team.
Just like 99 and 00.

I think it'll be okay since NESTS saga also revolved around a new hero, K' where Kyo and Iori were there just for gameplay reasons.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on February 05, 2021, 07:26:09 am
I would love a Fatal Fury team akin to the one we got in KoF XI. There was something special about Terry teaming up with people other than Joe and Andy, and seeing both Kim and Terry on the same team was fantastic.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on February 05, 2021, 08:35:03 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Etbd3w3VkAEMeq5?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Niitris on February 05, 2021, 09:07:10 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBX67I5dwWc

Pretty underwhelming tbh, all that did was make me want to hear the original. Could've done a little more with it I suppose.

I think they'll give him a different team, it's not like SNK to give Iori the same teammates consistently.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on February 05, 2021, 07:57:41 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBX67I5dwWc

Pretty underwhelming tbh, all that did was make me want to hear the original. Could've done a little more with it I suppose.

I think they'll give him a different team, it's not like SNK to give Iori the same teammates consistently.

For the record - The song from the trailer isn't new to KOF XV, it's actually from a remix from KOF XIV's PS4 "Yagami" Theme, and it's been out since 4 years ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ39ZHWxsRM).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on February 06, 2021, 08:45:48 pm
jacket looks great simple and elegant but that maroon bits makes it hard to see the design on his collar and the moon on his back. not a fan of the fire effect.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on February 07, 2021, 01:12:54 pm
I think Iori will be getting an all new team this time. I personally think they may bring back the idea they originally had for XII of him teamibg up with Oswald and a newcomer.

I often had this trio in my mind:-
Iori
Oswald
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

That way we can finally have one canon this time.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on February 11, 2021, 03:01:36 am
Iori with Joe wtf

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 11, 2021, 03:03:19 am
.............


Consider my expectations fucking annihilated.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: EveryonesKouhai on February 11, 2021, 03:09:07 am
this either means that 1. joe is with iori, or 2. they're going to reveal the fatal fury team and iori's team right before the gameplay showcase
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nemuresu on February 11, 2021, 03:13:49 am
I so do not know what to take off of this reveal. I may need to look back at the Hero team trailers, but I so do not recall teams having more than one theme, and frankly, this gives me too many ideas, none of 'em I'm a subcriber towards:
1.- Iori is truly teaming up with Joe (why?)
2.- Iori's a standalone character (think of a 97/99/2000 situation)
3.- Both characters are just part of different teams
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 11, 2021, 03:16:57 am
Consider my expectations fucking annihilated.

hehehehehe

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33zNUxCddys[/youtube]
so cool you can mix levels
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 11, 2021, 03:18:08 am
Joe has been on the Fatal Fury team in every single game. He's been with Terry in every game, and Andy is almost every game (with like, one or two exceptions).

So assuming this is still following the trend of reveals-by-team-order, then...

... why the literal hell is Joe with Iori? I NEED to get some clarity AND know the story reason... assuming that IS what this is.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on February 11, 2021, 03:37:54 am
I'm literally crying from laughter here!

This move was pure genius! SNK just threw off everyone who's been trying to predict who would gonna be revealed. Next week nobody will have any goddamn idea what character will be shown.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on February 11, 2021, 03:39:10 am
There is only ONE possible explanation for a canon Iori/Joe team up.

SNK is once again stealing ideas from MUGEN and we are now getting the long awaited OROCHI JOE (https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/orochi-joe-released-soy-sauce-31319-186369.0.html).  You see Joe will now be revealed to be a heir of Orochi because well how else is he able to magically create tornados from his bare hands and Iori decided to keep a close eye on him.

(Or maybe Iori's a single entry rather than a team like how Ash was in XIII I dunno nice way to throw us off)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Bannana on February 11, 2021, 03:40:43 am
I hope all the teams are gonna be 2k3/XI on crack, I loved how they mixed it up then.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on February 11, 2021, 03:51:41 am
There is only ONE possible explanation for a canon Iori/Joe team up.

SNK is once again stealing ideas from MUGEN and we are now getting the long awaited OROCHI JOE (https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/orochi-joe-released-soy-sauce-31319-186369.0.html).  You see Joe will now be revealed to be a heir of Orochi because well how else is he able to magically create tornados from his bare hands and Iori decided to keep a close eye on him.


So assuming this is still following the trend of reveals-by-team-order, then...

... why the literal hell is Joe with Iori? I NEED to get some clarity AND know the story reason... assuming that IS what this is.

maybe he might be following Iori to investigate why Mature and Vice have been following him around, and hopefully wants one of them or both of them to follow him as well just to avoid that transgender woman that he often encountered in kof03 and kof13? :mlol:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 11, 2021, 04:04:04 am
maybe he might be following Iori to investigate why Mature and Vice have been following him around, and hopefully wants one of them or both of them to follow him as well just to avoid that transgender woman that he often encountered in kof03 and kof13? :mlol:

I don't

get it

wut
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Seadragon77 on February 11, 2021, 04:47:32 am
I personally think that since they unveiled the Hero Team for this game, the guys at SNK are throwing out trailers to tell everyone 'Hey, this character is in the game..'

I think a lot of people may notice that Iori and Joe don't exactly fit as team mates... yet, if SNK are throwing out trailers to say that so and so is in the game, then that might be what I'm seeing here.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on February 11, 2021, 04:59:06 am
3.- Both characters are just part of different teams

I think it's probably this, with them announcing characters out of order from their respective teams.
I believe KOF XIV did this, as well.
Although the story ideas that could come with Joe hypothetically being kicked out/replaced from team Fatal Fury & ending up teaming with Iori are pretty interesting to me...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 11, 2021, 05:07:04 am
But if it's random then it feels super disorganized and wouldn't make a lot of sense.

I mean from a thematic view -- they revealed the Hero Team first... it'd be weird if they just stopped revealing teams, or revealed them at random. Like we have to go through another 8 reveals before it's like "Team Fatal Fury!"
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on February 11, 2021, 06:06:33 am
But if it's random then it feels super disorganized and wouldn't make a lot of sense.
I mean from a thematic view -- they revealed the Hero Team first... it'd be weird if they just stopped revealing teams, or revealed them at random. Like we have to go through another 8 reveals before it's like "Team Fatal Fury!"

I think it's basically to keep people guessing as to who will be revealed next.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on February 11, 2021, 06:28:31 am
Sorry, but I'm now seriously wondering:

how many trailers are left, until we get to see someone that isn't pretty much a revamp from KOFXIV?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 11, 2021, 06:49:08 am
I'm literally crying from laughter here!

Me too Magma xD

SNK, you silly lol
Really such a move, considering that 99% are expecting for Kyo, Chizuru or even Mature, Vice. But then, just exactly the most troll from Fatal Fury. hahaha :v

Well, i believe if SNK doesn't come out with some surprise again, Iori will be a standalone character pretty much like in KOF '97, '99 and 2003 (yeah, Kyo, Iori and Chizuru are standalone in KOF 2003, the Sacred Treasures Team are for story purpose).

About Joe, his design, specially his shorts reminds me A LOT of his appearance in RBFF Special and RBFF2. Pretty much like Iori that reminds his "Another" version from KOF 2000. Also i've saw a little bit of improvement on the FX and SNK showed more details about the gameplay that from what i saw on Meiten, Benimaru and now on Joe trailers, it's pretty much the stuff from KOF XIII with a little bit from KOF XIV.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 11, 2021, 10:06:16 am
Sorry, but I'm now seriously wondering:

how many trailers are left, until we get to see someone that isn't pretty much a revamp from KOFXIV?

this!


Actually the trailer is pretty good.
But yes, I want to see something new as well!!

I think they first put the revamped characters because the new ones are peraps less polished right now.

But, damn... it will be so long. In november 2021, we can finally see some new stuff ^^;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on February 11, 2021, 10:47:28 am
I may need to look back at the Hero team trailers, but I so do not recall teams having more than one theme.

Shun'ei, Meitenkun and Benimaru all do have different themes in their trailers: Shun'ei using what seems to be the main theme for XV, I have no idea what Meitenkun's theme is from and Benimaru used the actual team theme in his trailer.

As was mentioned before, Iori's trailer theme is actually from XIV, not just the original it's based off of, but the remix was at least released when XIV was out, as well. Joe's trailer theme actually comes from Fatal Fury 2, so there's some wayback for ya =P If SNK didn't just abandon this pattern of revealing team members one after another and Joe and Iori really are a team, whatever their actual team theme is going to be will be revealed next week when their partner is also revealed. God, who the hell is that gonna be?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 11, 2021, 10:51:40 am
Oh nice, that Real Bout 2 super is back (basically). I guess it's faster than the Bakuretsu Hurricane Tiger Kakato.

edit - oh, he had it in XIV. So again, no change, copy-paste everything from XIV, uh. That's not going well.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on February 11, 2021, 11:01:03 am
Or they're just showing 2 of 3 people in the team:

Shun'ei - Meitenkun -  ?
Benimaru - Kyo -?
Iori - Joe - ?

Or maybe, as it's been said, iori is a standalone character.

OR Billy's sister asked Joe for teaming up with Iori because he kicked his brother's ass so she sends him to take revenge, lost the combat and now is forced to team with Yagami xDD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 11, 2021, 11:21:37 am
Or they're just showing 2 of 3 people in the team:

Shun'ei - Meitenkun -  ?
Benimaru - Kyo -?
Iori - Joe - ?

Or maybe, as it's been said, iori is a standalone character.

OR Billy's sister asked Joe for teaming up with Iori because he kicked his brother's ass so she sends him to take revenge, lost the combat and now is forced to team with Yagami xDD

Haha! Nice one! :D

I feel like they will not follow any "rule" for trailers.
Unless trailers 1, 2, 3 are a team (since it's hero team), then they show other characters in a trategic way to keep the hype.
even if the following ones are not from the same team.

"Here" the treailers are at 3AM, but I prefer to go to sleep, so I have a nice reason to wake up the "next day" in the morning ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on February 11, 2021, 04:22:14 pm
Or they're just showing 2 of 3 people in the team:

Shun'ei - Meitenkun -  ?
Benimaru - Kyo -?
Iori - Joe - ?



But, were Beni not just confirmed as part of Shun's and Meit's team, forming the Hero Team? I don't see how he would also be with Kyo, or SNK go back on that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 11, 2021, 04:49:55 pm
OR Billy's sister asked Joe for teaming up with Iori because he kicked his brother's ass so she sends him to take revenge, lost the combat and now is forced to team with Yagami xDD

Good theory here lol :v

Well, if Iori will be a standalone, if you guys saw the KOF XIV manga will make sense. Probably Mature and Vice will team up with... Rugal? Or even Adel?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on February 11, 2021, 11:25:59 pm
iori and joe = new team japan?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 11, 2021, 11:54:40 pm
iori and joe = new team japan?

Team Japan’t
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on February 12, 2021, 04:09:03 am
OR Billy's sister asked Joe for teaming up with Iori because he kicked his brother's ass so she sends him to take revenge, lost the combat and now is forced to team with Yagami xDD
I like this ;D
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on February 12, 2021, 06:03:42 am
I'm still going for my Orochi Joe theory.

Better yet, give everyone Orochi Blood and turn it into a new mechanic.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on February 12, 2021, 09:24:34 am
I'm still going for my Orochi Joe theory.

Better yet, give everyone Orochi Blood and turn it into a new mechanic.
What do you think this is? MUGEN?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on February 14, 2021, 10:31:31 am
I'm still going for my Orochi Joe theory.

Better yet, give everyone Orochi Blood and turn it into a new mechanic.
maybe mature and vice successfully get into Joe and turns him into Oroch Joe by channelling Goenitz's soul into him seeing him having similar hurricane moves :mlol: There was a non-cannon kof manga where a woman from the Yagami clan was possessed by Goenitz, maybe similar to that if Joe is teamed with Iori :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on February 15, 2021, 01:09:51 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuO5rtbVkAAAIvx?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on February 15, 2021, 02:33:04 pm
How, he got his back shown to us, and he has no ass, what's with the flatness? That guy is kicking all the time, there should be some muscle there.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 15, 2021, 04:46:35 pm
I knew it! They really got inspiration from Real Bout Special for his shorts. This is great.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on February 15, 2021, 04:53:55 pm
Joe has never looked this badass IMO.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 15, 2021, 07:12:03 pm
the next one will be terry hehe
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on February 17, 2021, 10:23:10 pm
The Red Sun in Joe's backside has people speculating he might be part of TEAM JAPAN, but SNK sneakily showed the words FATAL FURY in the South Beach Stage shown in his trailer, so it's very likely he'll be FF.

Looking forward to a new reveal in a few hours, can't imagine who it'll be
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 18, 2021, 03:02:55 am


HA!! I KNEW IT!!

SNK really trolled us on Joe's trailer xD They're hiding the stuff!
Kyo looks good eh, i like his new Climax.

But God, the Arena stage still dull.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 18, 2021, 03:06:19 am
There is still hope for Team Sacred Treasures.

Kyo's looking dope, I like this. Wasn't worth the wait today though, but was still a fine trailer.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Croix12 on February 18, 2021, 03:25:54 am
And here I was hoping for Chizuru's trailer today... Kyo's design in this looks better than XIV's at least.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 18, 2021, 03:27:10 am
And here I was hoping for Chizuru's trailer today... Kyo's design in this looks better than XIV's at least.

Technically speaking, it could still happen. The fate of Team Sacred Treasures is up in the air but not out of the realm of plausibility yet.

I'm hoping Chizuru finally returns, she deserves it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Croix12 on February 18, 2021, 03:29:43 am
And here I was hoping for Chizuru's trailer today... Kyo's design in this looks better than XIV's at least.

Technically speaking, it could still happen. The fate of Team Sacred Treasures is up in the air but not out of the realm of plausibility yet.

I'm hoping Chizuru finally returns, she deserves it.

I guess is time to wait another week
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 18, 2021, 03:31:47 am
And here I was hoping for Chizuru's trailer today... Kyo's design in this looks better than XIV's at least.

WAY better than in XIV that's for sure. Kyo's design was a mess on the last KOF.
I believe i said this before but this new design reminds me of his "SP" version in KOF '99 Evolution and one of his appearances in KOF Kyo.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on February 18, 2021, 03:54:58 am
goddamn these fire effects look like orange colored slime, why are they doing this
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 18, 2021, 03:57:16 am
....... yeeeeeaaaaaah I keep telling myself "It's fine" but christ the fire looks real bad.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on February 18, 2021, 04:00:48 am
also is his SDM new? he creates a ring of fire that looks like the kusanagi symbol. maybe its a teaser for the sacred treasures angle
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on February 18, 2021, 04:03:34 am
Feels so good to listen to Goodbye Esaka again that it still hurts me on how SNK and Co. did not add that track in Smash Ultimate.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 18, 2021, 04:05:48 am
Goodbye Esakurai





I'll leave
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on February 18, 2021, 04:15:16 am
Wondering how much they'll talk about this game, if at all, on the round table.

By the way, I'm seeing a pattern with the trailers now. They've been alternating between characters that were shown in the first trailer and characters that weren't.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 18, 2021, 04:25:33 am
also is his SDM new? he creates a ring of fire that looks like the kusanagi symbol. maybe its a teaser for the sacred treasures angle

Pretty much like Iori's SDM.

If Chizuru returns, probably will be like this with her.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on February 18, 2021, 05:59:56 am
Shatter all expectations means don't have any lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on February 18, 2021, 06:26:51 am
goddamn these fire effects look like orange colored slime, why are they doing this
Kyo manifesting what I assume is actual lava in his SDM was something I didn't expect in their whole "shatter expectation" campaign thing.

Or maybe their FX department just stopped caring.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 18, 2021, 09:30:13 am
And goodbye Mu Shiki I guess with that effect style.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on February 18, 2021, 09:41:09 am
If Kyo is announced, doas that means we'll get Chizuru at some point to finally form a "Sacred Treasure Team" like in KoF96?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 18, 2021, 09:50:19 am
No real surprise here. But Looks very good.
Perhaps 1 or 2 things that could look better in animation. (key frames)
But I feel satisfied by what I see about Kyo...

It will be very long until we see more ^^;

Now, let's start actual news !!!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on February 18, 2021, 02:43:13 pm
So, will SNK continue to reveal Joe's team next week and hold off on an eventual Chizuru, or will they throw yet another curveball to shatter more of our expectations?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 18, 2021, 05:05:20 pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEx2_jSqbRo[/youtube]

HA!! I KNEW IT!!

SNK really trolled us on Joe's trailer xD They're hiding the stuff!
Kyo looks good eh, i like his new Climax.

But God, the Arena stage still dull.

the flame effects has improved a lot :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 18, 2021, 05:07:51 pm
So, will SNK continue to reveal Joe's team next week and hold off on an eventual Chizuru, or will they throw yet another curveball to shatter more of our expectations?

whatever SNK does will be welcome :) because they really care details this time, but we'll get some news about the game this saturday 20th too
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on February 18, 2021, 05:37:52 pm
Is that confirmed that we will get? Because if that's the case, SUPER HYPE. And I agree, finally they go for details and finetuning it seems.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 18, 2021, 05:57:27 pm
Is that confirmed that we will get? Because if that's the case, SUPER HYPE. And I agree, finally they go for details and finetuning it seems.

a youtuber called rooflemonger says YES but it supposed to, because every developer will be there on that stream
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on February 18, 2021, 06:07:28 pm
I like the theme remix this time. But I wished we got Tears....then again I wonder when or if Shingo might show up. If Chizuru shows up yeah that is nice. Especially inf New Face team are back with remixed moveset!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on February 18, 2021, 06:42:10 pm
what was so expectation shattering about the reveals so far tbh
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 18, 2021, 06:54:33 pm
So far the expectation shatterings have just been warped into confusion.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on February 19, 2021, 05:19:07 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EujeMNbUYAAEG5C?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 19, 2021, 05:21:58 am
I've very hype. Ngl, rewatching Kyo's trailer a lot. It gets me more and more hyped and the fire effects are growing on me.

Also the impact on all his hits is insane... so satisfying to watch every attack land. It screams "I have 25+ years of experience under my belt".
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on February 19, 2021, 10:27:34 am
There is an fighting game devlopper round table tomorrow and snk confirmed they will reveal more info about KOF15 there.
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2021/feb/12/japan-fighting-publisher-roundtable-announcement/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 19, 2021, 10:15:58 pm
I hope they show a new trailer tho.

Please be Chizuru. :v
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on February 21, 2021, 09:10:39 am
well your wish just happened.

sunday reveal? expectations shattered!!!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 21, 2021, 09:17:00 am
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 21, 2021, 09:27:42 am
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on February 21, 2021, 09:53:39 am
Finally after 2003.....she is back!!!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on February 21, 2021, 10:47:54 am
I now KNOW. I'll buy KOF XV!!!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on February 21, 2021, 12:24:47 pm
CHIZURUUUUU!!! SHE'S FINALLY BAAAACK!!
Now the Sacred Treasures team are reunited once again!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on February 21, 2021, 01:43:12 pm
I thought that would never happen after KOF 2003. Kyo and Iori are a big trouble when that combines. Like water and electricity.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on February 21, 2021, 02:11:07 pm
Shame we didn't get to see the end of her Climax, but I'm seriously happy that she's back. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 21, 2021, 02:31:03 pm
her gameplay wasnt impressed me a lot like kyo or Iori did but I think many people will be happy that she's back
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 21, 2021, 02:34:32 pm
well your wish just happened.

sunday reveal? expectations shattered!!!
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZsPbqdEbh4[/youtube]

Hell yeah!!!! :D :D
Finally she's back and yes, many of us got it. The Sacred Treasures Team is in.
If Chizuru returns and joins with Kyo and Iori, it's because the trouble is damn serious.

I thought that would never happen after KOF 2003. Kyo and Iori are a big trouble when that combines. Like water and electricity.

Chizuru pretty much put both Kyo and Iori on the line. :v
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 21, 2021, 02:53:21 pm
Actually I'm hyped by the fact she IS here, but just like all the characters until now, the animations are not particularly good. Just so so.
Also, I'm glad they didn't f*ck'd up with her design. She's perfect, even if I would give her a bit more "curves" :D
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 21, 2021, 03:08:21 pm
I would have liked to see an improvement on her visual gameplay
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on February 21, 2021, 03:14:19 pm
After 18 years, the waifu finally returns
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on February 21, 2021, 03:39:49 pm
Here I was expecting what kind of funky FX these madlads injected this time but we gotta wait a bit longer for the end result.  Calling it now that Chizuru could now create liquid nitrogen in the way Iori causes scalding water geysers and Kyo summoning lava with his bare hands.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 21, 2021, 04:26:52 pm
After watched the trailer again.

- Her design is great. Thank God SNK won't messed up with that. :v
- The new stage showed is pretty much the Japan Team's one from KOF '94 and looks amazing.
Spoiler: Screens (click to see content)
- Chizuru's moves looks good. Only the envshake on Sanrai No Fujin looks damn strange.

And well, glad that Chizuru is back for real and finally the Sacred Treasures as a team, not only a special formation for the story like in KOF '96, '97 and 2003 (to make clear, in KOF 2003 Kyo, Iori and Chizuru are single entries).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on February 21, 2021, 06:13:13 pm
Can't wait to see next reveal!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 21, 2021, 08:15:20 pm
I like how this is the trailer that just cemented the hype for KOF XV lol

This game has now skyrocketed to “I need this in my life” levels
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on February 22, 2021, 12:01:54 am
I do not know how many differences the version of 98 will have with the one of 2003
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on February 22, 2021, 12:05:22 am
Its the same Chizuru as she's always been.

Seems her climax will work like that move Piccolo uses against #17 in DBZ.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on February 22, 2021, 12:10:42 am
Seeing the Chizuru trailer over and over again just makes me think that Luong is basically ghetto Chizuru in terms of design (not gameplay).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 22, 2021, 12:25:27 am
The other day I watched the similar comparison for Kyo XV next to Kyo XIV. Absolutely identical. The fresh coat of paint is real nice, it's good to get a graphic design that's watchable, but clearly we already know the entire moveset and game plan of any character that will appear, so someone wake me up when there's something we haven't already seen in a previous game. I'll be right next to the pieces of my expectations for this revival game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DarkWolf13 on February 22, 2021, 12:36:15 am
Well this is a super pleasant surprise. Excitement for this game has to be higher than ever especially for Chizuru mains.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on February 22, 2021, 01:24:28 am
I must reiterate that I would love to see that Kensou-Angel team up. Screw Athena, Kensou needs to be more than just some dude that Athena eternally leaves in the friendzone.

(also if this game could somehow continue the dragon spirit plot that would be great)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on February 22, 2021, 01:58:54 am
I really wish they would try new things and redesign their characters, even if it were just movesets. Nice to see Chizuru back though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 22, 2021, 02:03:36 am
I really wish they would try new things and redesign their characters, even if it were just movesets. Nice to see Chizuru back though.

I'm personally content seeing the iconic designs coming to life in 3D. Street Fighter V has turned me away from heavy redesigns of iconic characters lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 22, 2021, 02:04:24 am
Street Fighter V has turned me away from heavy redesigns of iconic characters lol
But SFV also has classic costumes for everyone. And KoF is already bringing new designs for Kyo, Iori, Beni, and even Joe gets a new pair of shorts. (Kyo is much closer to his classic design than the XIV version, sure, but it's still a way off from the school uniform)
(alright, Iori getting a new velvet jacket is not as jarring as Gouki becoming a lion for some fucking reason, but the nostalgia costumes are there in SFV)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 22, 2021, 02:13:42 am
But SFV also has classic costumes for everyone. And KoF is already bringing new designs for Kyo, Iori, Beni, and even Joe gets a new pair of shorts. (Kyo is much closer to his classic design than the XIV version, sure, but it's still a way off from the school uniform)

While those are good points, the classic costumes aren't the defaults. The characters are represented by their default looks. And while I recognize both games are making changes, SFV's changes make the characters feel too different to me. KOF XV's changes feel nice enough that it comes off as a more proper evolution. It did right what KOF XIV did wrong.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on February 22, 2021, 05:49:34 am
i don't personally understand the appeal of seeing the same designs for several decades straight.

i also dont see any "evolution" in the designs of XV, its just correcting (to a point) the awful gfx decisions they made.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 22, 2021, 06:03:26 am
i don't personally understand the appeal of seeing the same designs for several decades straight.

i also dont see any "evolution" in the designs of XV, its just correcting (to a point) the awful gfx decisions they made.

It's a matter of preference I suppose. I honestly prefer how XV is handling it (aside from Shun'ei but that's old news) and I think it looks great.

But to each their own, you're entitled to your own opinion as much as I am mine. <3
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on February 22, 2021, 03:22:40 pm
There's more to this than just "shaders" or graphics.

KOF XV is definitely showing a very clear direction in terms of design. The colors are purposefully saturated, meaning to be more vibrant to give a fresh look, and in my opinion, they're pulling it off very well. Whether it is the Hero/China stage with the Red columns contrasting the Blue backdrop, or the characters having dark/black garments to make the color accents more noticeable, you can totally tell there's a clear art direction. I LIKE THAT.

Well this is a super pleasant surprise. Excitement for this game has to be higher than ever especially for Chizuru mains.
I can confirm as a Chizuru enthusiast, 'tis a good time to be alive
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/52102be83a54ec5579f4828ddaa76ae2/tenor.gif?itemid=16153719)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on February 22, 2021, 05:40:15 pm
i don't personally understand the appeal of seeing the same designs for several decades straight.

i also dont see any "evolution" in the designs of XV, its just correcting (to a point) the awful gfx decisions they made.

It is rather funny if you really think about it.
Beni & Iori has relatively updated looks while Kyo and Chizuru look as if they're from KOF'96.

I would say though that XV is coming out so far so good.
I like the roster and that's what's important right now.

I just wish they could speed things up just a little bit more.

We only have two teams and it's been MONTHS.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on February 22, 2021, 05:49:25 pm
Well, a character per week means four characters per month. By the end of March we'll only have seen 12 characters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 22, 2021, 06:27:39 pm
Beni & Iori has relatively updated looks while Kyo and Chizuru look as if they're from KOF'96.
Kyo without his school uniform is still a big change from 96. The biker jacket is from 99 (the striker-only form, not the white jacket).
Either of these designs is way better than the K-pop hair from XIV that was a big departure from his recognizable hairstyle. Looking skinny as a stick didn't help. Now it looks like everyone is getting super buff with this art style, it's not perfect but I'll live with it better than the XIV style (I just hope the Ikari Warriors won't be back to the giant bubbling meat blobs from XII-XIII).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on February 22, 2021, 06:54:55 pm
What is K-Pop about XIV Kyo's hair? It's literally just hair with nothing special about it. People just love bitching about K-Pop every opportunity they have, even if they have to invent an excuse.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 22, 2021, 08:34:40 pm
After watching SFV Dan's trailer, I feel what I didn't liked in KOF14 and still don't really like in 15.
Visually, I mean... (character models, body proportions, animations/interpolation between Key frames...)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on February 22, 2021, 10:42:15 pm
What is K-Pop about XIV Kyo's hair? It's literally just hair with nothing special about it. People just love bitching about K-Pop every opportunity they have, even if they have to invent an excuse.

his design in 14 was inspired from popular trendy styles in china. even the over all look of the characters were slimed down to fit in the current trend.

btw i've been watching trailers and it seems like they'll have jiggle physics present for certain characters like leona but not on mai.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 23, 2021, 03:44:03 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu4Ei7rUUAApQ8C?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 23, 2021, 03:48:04 am
.... really? That's all they have to say?

They had more to say about Shun'ei and Meitenkun's friendship than about Chizuru's hype ass return?

What the hell, SNK?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on February 23, 2021, 05:41:12 am
Even people at SNK are mad at Chizuru for killing Joe/Iori/Kyo. Team What Could've Been :V

Real talk though, that is kind of fair. Compared to everyone else who's been redesigned, Chizuru does seem to have the least amount of changes to her own outfit. Those little blurb things have always been specifically talking about the characters new looks and stuff and with Chizuru not being too terribly different, it kind of makes sense.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 23, 2021, 05:42:23 am
Tbh I'm glad her design is very much the same because of her long absence. It would be INSANELY jarring if she had a huge redesign after 18 years of not being playable.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Jmorphman on February 23, 2021, 07:14:36 am
After watching SFV Dan's trailer, I feel what I didn't liked in KOF14 and still don't really like in 15.
Visually, I mean... (character models, body proportions, animations/interpolation between Key frames...)
I've really not been a fan of how weightless and lacking in impact the animations in both XIV and XV have been, but honestly, Chizuru's QCFx2 + k super in that trailer was one of the most shockingly inept and empty moves I've ever seen in a fighting game. Like, there wasn't even hitpause on any of the hits! Really disappointing stuff. :(
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on February 23, 2021, 09:28:04 am
Yeah, the animations are lifeless
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 23, 2021, 11:53:25 am
All the old Neo Geo Kof game me "great" feelings. (in the art part)
with KOF 12/13 I was so impressed!

Then they went 3D, like 99,9% of them now.
But their work in 3D is OK, but not "great".

Also, this is why I compared to how Dan looks full of life in SFV.

I'm glad KOF still exists, but just like the mobile games taking more and more from that licence, I feel KOF is not a priority for me anymore.
Even games like SoulCalibur or DOA looks better.

Again, KOF15 looks good, but not great. SNK used to make great looking games.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on February 23, 2021, 12:21:18 pm
All the old Neo Geo Kof game me "great" feelings. (in the art part)
with KOF 12/13 I was so impressed!

Then they went 3D, like 99,9% of them now.
But their work in 3D is OK, but not "great".

Also, this is why I compared to how Dan looks full of life in SFV.

I'm glad KOF still exists, but just like the mobile games taking more and more from that licence, I feel KOF is not a priority for me anymore.
Even games like SoulCalibur or DOA looks better.

Again, KOF15 looks good, but not great. SNK used to make great looking games.

I get this where you are coming from, the charm old game and nostalgia. I remember watching a video about guy talking animation regarding Kim Kaphwan and was critical of the 3D take in KOF XIV. The animations are not breathtaking or over the top, even I noticed a bit of issue in the last two trailers but I'm looking forward for two reasons like I had with KOF XIV, story and soundtrack. Maybe one day there will be KOF game that feels fluid and alive with animation, framerate etc. Yeah mobile titles are thing with SNK for a while but I am still hopeful for things to turn around optimistically.

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Also, this is why I compared to how Dan looks full of life in SFV.
CAPCOM is vastly different from SNK and given the company's situation it is ambiguous to know when they are able to deliver at 1000%. I mean when they got Resident Evil and Devil May Cry, who know if Street Fighter 6 will join in their graphics then the standard will be elevated to few more degrees.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on February 23, 2021, 05:34:22 pm
After watching SFV Dan's trailer, I feel what I didn't liked in KOF14 and still don't really like in 15.
Visually, I mean... (character models, body proportions, animations/interpolation between Key frames...)
I've really not been a fan of how weightless and lacking in impact the animations in both XIV and XV have been, but honestly, Chizuru's QCFx2 + k super in that trailer was one of the most shockingly inept and empty moves I've ever seen in a fighting game. Like, there wasn't even hitpause on any of the hits! Really disappointing stuff. :(

i understand what you mean , but i still consider this as an improvement to 14.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 23, 2021, 07:06:21 pm
.... really? That's all they have to say?

They had more to say about Shun'ei and Meitenkun's friendship than about Chizuru's hype ass return?

What the hell, SNK?

I believe they're hiding stuff about Chizuru. :v

but honestly, Chizuru's QCFx2 + k super in that trailer was one of the most shockingly inept and empty moves I've ever seen in a fighting game. Like, there wasn't even hitpause on any of the hits! Really disappointing stuff. :(

Her "Sanrai No Fujin" indeed doesn't look good at all, specially the envshake on it. Such a mess.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on February 25, 2021, 11:52:42 am
 :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 25, 2021, 02:25:05 pm
This theme is like they mixed up Fairy and New Order. I like it. :)

Also, new reveal will be only next week.
Title: KOF XV will have rollback
Post by: walt on February 26, 2021, 06:21:04 pm
The magic word has been uttered. Maybe Twitter can relax their shit now and let us enjoy the trailers

(https://i.imgur.com/1w3YTw1.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on February 26, 2021, 07:37:40 pm
its not so much a magic word as somethign that should be expected at this point
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on February 27, 2021, 12:20:52 am
They're also wording it as if it's not a guarantee as well which is kind of a red flag.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 27, 2021, 12:53:40 am
The magic word has been uttered. Maybe Twitter can relax their shit now and let us enjoy the trailers

(https://i.imgur.com/1w3YTw1.png)

yes.! guilty and kof with rollback :D the future is getting right :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on February 27, 2021, 05:15:49 am
Finally Oda talked about that!

I really hope that SNK won't messed up with the online stuff like what happend on XIV.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 27, 2021, 05:19:10 am
I hope it's not an empty promise! The wording is really weird but... it's hype that they're aiming for it at least. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kamui 2.0 on February 28, 2021, 09:37:47 pm
I don't have kof 14, but I saw some online matches, doesn't seem to have a big problem
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on March 02, 2021, 04:04:12 am
.....
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on March 02, 2021, 04:56:08 am
.....
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfPkFx6OotY[/youtube]

Just the three of them, groovin' to the music the only way they know how.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on March 02, 2021, 09:03:40 am
guessing it's ikari warriors next.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 02, 2021, 05:54:27 pm
I dunno... if they've shown Joe, it could well be Terry or Andy, although Leona was shown, wasn't she?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on March 04, 2021, 03:06:47 am


To the surprise of no one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 04, 2021, 03:18:23 am
yes.! this what I was talking about.! my expectations were completed :)  snk took care more with andy than Chizuru :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 04, 2021, 03:21:16 am
Daaaaaaaamn, Andy looks fuckin' hot. Love to see it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 04, 2021, 03:24:59 am
So Tree next week then.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on March 04, 2021, 03:26:53 am
Andy pretty. Expectations not shattered whatsoever though. Looks like we're getting the standard FF Team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 04, 2021, 03:29:03 am
I like how they show Mai in the trailer, even though she was not yet confirmed. Like "you guys know Mai is in, who cares".
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ShiroTori on March 04, 2021, 03:39:34 am
She was in the reveal trailer, we knew for a while now.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 04, 2021, 03:45:54 am
Plot twist.

Next week is Yamazaki.

I'm fine with the standard FF team but hey I'll take another formula break.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 04, 2021, 03:54:26 am
Plot twist.

Next week is Yamazaki.

I'm fine with the standard FF team but hey I'll take another formula break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxkfWYCq9Oo
yamasaki moveset in KO14 looks dam good but his art style was really baaad so cant wait for his trailer  to see what kof15 did about it
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 04, 2021, 04:34:46 am
Plot twist.

Next week is Yamazaki.

I'm fine with the standard FF team but hey I'll take another formula break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxkfWYCq9Oo
yamasaki moveset in KO14 looks dam good but his art style was really baaad so cant wait for his trailer  to see what kof15 did about it

I was joking about him being next I hope you know lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 04, 2021, 04:49:52 am
Plot twist.

Next week is Yamazaki.

I'm fine with the standard FF team but hey I'll take another formula break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxkfWYCq9Oo
yamasaki moveset in KO14 looks dam good but his art style was really baaad so cant wait for his trailer  to see what kof15 did about it

I was joking about him being next I hope you know lol

.xD no matter
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on March 04, 2021, 05:24:18 am
She was in the reveal trailer, we knew for a while now.

And her face is slightly better now than the reveal trailer when her face was really strange.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I9emZnl4_k[/youtube]

To the surprise of no one.

Also his moveset... Oh boy... :/
They literally copy and paste Andy's KOF XIII and XIV. I know that some of his design specially his face looks WAY better now but c'mon SNK!
Why still with that lame Climax already!?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on March 04, 2021, 06:10:05 am
I do miss his moves from 96,97,99-2002. I liked the strong, qcb one used since Real Bout.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on March 04, 2021, 07:54:11 am
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I9emZnl4_k[/youtube]

To the surprise of no one.
crossing finger for Andy,Mai,Eiji kisaragi/bandeiras hattori = Team Ninja and Joe,Kuan(Joe's apprentice)/king and Hwai = Team Muay Thai  :nuttrox:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 04, 2021, 09:53:27 am
Andy is actually freaking HANDSOME !
Nice progress compared to the early characters.
I like how they modelised the clothes...

OK, Mai seems to have been updated as well just like I thought earlier. I like her figure.
But sorry Mai, Andy is definitely hotter than you...


This kind of upgrade on rendering meke me want to see my babies Shermie and Angel the later possible ^^;
Even if I hate this idea. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 04, 2021, 12:17:03 pm
So, my Main is IN! Moveslist wise, Andy is the same as he was in XIV with just one addition that I've noticed. We get shown that he can Brake the KuHaDan at the start as before, but now he can seem to do it mid air to extend combos?  This should be fun! :)

Also, before I forget... yay! PASTA! Loved this theme since FF2.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on March 05, 2021, 02:30:31 am
Holy shite, Andy looks handsome as heck!

Now, to me, Andy was a pretty bland design, but just like Joe, this is epic. I'm actually hyped to give Andy another try!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Urrnge on March 05, 2021, 03:55:47 am
I never liked Andy, but goddamn he actually looks cool now.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 05, 2021, 05:25:51 am
I didnt know Andy looked like this in Kof14.xD
(https://i.ibb.co/FwvxDt2/wow.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 05, 2021, 05:31:36 am
I gotta take up Max's stance on aggressively defending the XV art style lol

Such a step up from XIV. And GOD Andy is fucking hot.
Title: KOFXV alternative costumes
Post by: videoman on March 06, 2021, 02:49:59 pm
I don't expect every character to have one but if they do I would like them to match their personality instead of being random, unoriginal, or cosplaying a potential character that can be added to the game please don't do that. It makes gamers feel that you're getting ripped off. (I'm talking about you SFV) The ones they made in KOFIV were ok and they should look for.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 11, 2021, 03:22:06 am

Why are her hands so big?

and also, that slap animation... SMH
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 11, 2021, 04:45:28 am
I'm just glad she finally gets her long hair back.  Her XIV look was weird, much like a chunk of the cast.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on March 11, 2021, 06:06:28 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev7Coy6U8AELn95?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 11, 2021, 08:32:43 am
Yuri looks pretty OK, this is a good thing.
What I see.

-She seems to be "slightly" more "athletic" (I can be wrong here...)
-Yes, her hands are a bit big. ^^;
-Her braid is back, but they kind of kept the KOFXIV haircut (the result is really strange to me)
-Her move list doesn't seem to have much new stuff (A LOT seems to be recycled from XIV)
-I hope her super move is not a freaking single "Chou Upper."

We'll wait and see.
I think overall, the game goes in a good direction even if if I don't agree with all the choices. ^^;

Damn, this Andy artwork is so hot...

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on March 11, 2021, 02:18:26 pm
It is good to see that the physics of the clothes improved a lot, in kof XIV it looked like plastic xD, it will be noticed much more when they show Kim
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 11, 2021, 06:21:21 pm
So they basically recycled most of XIV's motions and slapped on a prettier face with some better physics.

This is getting more disappointing than expected...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 11, 2021, 06:50:02 pm
That's what every single video showed since Shun'ei. The guy with the Yuri video did the same for everyone. Everything is copy-pasted on new models.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on March 11, 2021, 07:00:19 pm
its not like reusing anims is a bad thing. if it allows for a more varied roster down the line im game. reusing assets is kind of the norm with snk as it is.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 11, 2021, 07:12:33 pm
You could say it is an expectation with them, yes, framedata stay as they are for years. I wouldn't be half as irritated about it if they hadn't made that the whole tagline, and it'll be that way until we see actual new content (characters or movesets). They could show at least some hints that they did make new things. Even just a silhouette if the models or effects aren't ready, instead of things we've already seen...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on March 11, 2021, 07:19:55 pm
thats fair, i suppose its just a waiting game at this point since im fully confident snk will bring some really cool newcomers
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 11, 2021, 08:07:23 pm
The only complaint I have is that they're not even trying to hide the bad parts anymore.

In XIV's trailers you'd always see: "Work is still in progress." or smth to give people hope.
Now, it's "Here you go and don't expect anything better"
Shatter all expectations, YEP.

IT'S BEEN 5 YEARS!!!
I really hoped for an improvement for XV, but SNK's 3D jinx is never going to fade away I guess.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 11, 2021, 08:13:20 pm
So they basically recycled most of XIV's motions and slapped on a prettier face with some better physics.
So they basically fixed the main problem with XIV. Well, that, and also rollback.

It's a very competent an serviceable game with a large roster that simply looked bad and put people off. Now it will look good and maybe audiences will have an easier time getting into it.

I don't exactly see what's rubbing you the wrong way, the animations are ok, if it isn't broken don't fix it, amirite?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 11, 2021, 08:25:42 pm
I really liked SNK's 2D.
Sure, now it seems harder for them to make something looking good. (models and animation)
(I will not talk about gameplay here, because it was still very good in XIV)

Sure, there is a lot of improvement, but the way they tell us "shatter all expectations" etc.
And the fact SNK in most of our minds means quality at all levels, visual, style and gameplay + music etc.

Now, the game looks pretty good! defininitely, but not what I would expect from SNK.
SNK was craziness. This game is pretty OK.

Oh, one good thing they did about Yuri, beside of making her slighly more "fit" is the ball/orb of her haircut.
In the previous game, it seemed to be too small and too high on her skull. Now, it's good size and good position.
But it's just details.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on March 11, 2021, 08:44:18 pm
I don't think theres anything wrong with being annoyed that there is literally no innovation. Why should we be happy with a reskin of the last game being sold for probably 60 to 70 dollars
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 11, 2021, 10:14:20 pm
Hardly a "re-skin" when they've ported their previous game to a new engine, and in the process remodelling all the characters, textures, NETCODE, adding new artwork, new music, new effects, new game mechanics and new story. The KOF franchise is all about iteration, that's how we've come to have 15 games with up to 60+ characters.

I'm super on board with how the game looks now, and I'll be buying it day one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on March 11, 2021, 10:44:24 pm
i understand both sides but i do wish they added new moves at least a new unique normals or specials just like back in the day.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on March 11, 2021, 10:54:23 pm
i understand both sides but i do wish they added new moves at least a new unique normals or specials just like back in the day.

^^
THIS!

Good point is that the graphic improvement it's sharp. Yuri details on her design is WAY better than XIV.
The visual effects (Hit sparks, FX) are better from the previous trailers. And that Pao Pao Cafe stage (that is clearly the same from FF3) looks amazing.

Bad point is that yeah, about skills is indeed copy paste from KOF XIV. Kyo and Iori got very few changes, specially on their Climax moves.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on March 11, 2021, 11:03:45 pm
Hardly a "re-skin" when they've ported their previous game to a new engine, and in the process remodelling all the characters, textures, NETCODE, adding new artwork, new music, new effects, new game mechanics and new story. The KOF franchise is all about iteration, that's how we've come to have 15 games with up to 60+ characters.

I'm super on board with how the game looks now, and I'll be buying it day one.

Thats the point- the game is looking less of a sequel and moreso a "port," but charged at the price of an entirely new game. Between SF4 and SF5 we didn't just get "port" level changes to existing characters, we got entire overhauls (or significant updates) not just in graphics but in the core gameplay and identities of the characters. There's no discounting all the hard work that goes into creating new content like music, story and artwork. But the question is whether this has grown stagnant and uninspired on a gameplay level, and for me it really seems to be trending in that direction. I agree that the game LOOKS better, but if the game just needed to look better for me to judge it as a worthy entry in the series or even just worthy as a sequel/update then a lot of mediocre games would be getting rave reviews. I hope to be proven wrong by new mechanics or something, but theres only so much you can slap on top of the characters themselves in a fighting game. I wanted new moves or something, maybe even some gameplay entirely like in the case of Seth in the SF series. Its becoming less "iteration" and more "copy paste" this many games into the series.
Title: Pao Pao Cafe cameos
Post by: videoman on March 11, 2021, 11:09:15 pm
(https://i.redd.it/272hay18oem61.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on March 11, 2021, 11:16:24 pm
Thats the point- the game is looking less of a sequel and moreso a "port," but charged at the price of an entirely new game. Between SF4 and SF5 we didn't just get "port" level changes to existing characters, we got entire overhauls (or significant updates) not just in graphics but in the core gameplay and identities of the characters. There's no discounting all the hard work that goes into creating new content like music, story and artwork. But the question is whether this has grown stagnant and uninspired on a gameplay level, and for me it really seems to be trending in that direction. I agree that the game LOOKS better, but if the game just needed to look better for me to judge it as a worthy entry in the series or even just worthy as a sequel/update then a lot of mediocre games would be getting rave reviews. I hope to be proven wrong by new mechanics or something, but theres only so much you can slap on top of the characters themselves in a fighting game. I wanted new moves or something, maybe even some gameplay entirely like in the case of Seth in the SF series. Its becoming less "iteration" and more "copy paste" this many games into the series.

I think it's gonna be like that for a long time. SNK needs to do something new with its core gameplay, fundamentals and a shift in its target market.

If only this played more like KOF:MIRA I would buy this as its gameplay is friendly for everyone. I still remember bringing KOF:MIRA at the office and everyone loved it even the Tekken purists and I live in Tekken country (now its Mobile Legends country).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 11, 2021, 11:18:45 pm
Yes, some reference to World Heroes of ADK.
Nearly impossible I think, but it gives me small hopes to see Kisarah joining the game. ^^

So, neither Bob or Richard have chances to join the main roster.
Unless they make some interactive stage and remove the character if t's a player.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 11, 2021, 11:39:48 pm
If only this played more like KOF:MIRA I would buy this as its gameplay is friendly for everyone. I still remember bringing KOF:MIRA at the office and everyone loved it even the Tekken purists and I live in Tekken country (now its Mobile Legends country).
As much as I like KOF MI, I understand it would be impossible to move in that weird Tekken dial-a-combo gameplay direction. Moreover, KOF XIV has easy mode combos, so that should be covered?

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on March 11, 2021, 11:57:05 pm
As much as I like KOF MI, I understand it would be impossible to move in that weird Tekken dial-a-combo gameplay direction. Moreover, KOF XIV has easy mode combos, so that should be covered?

Honestly, I haven't bought KOF14. :sweatdrop:

Have they made jump in combo noob friendly?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 11, 2021, 11:58:16 pm
Honestly, I haven't bought KOF14. :sweatdrop:

Have they made jump in combo noob friendly?
1 button mash combo with Special ender, or DM if you have 1 bar, yes. Friendly AF.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 12, 2021, 12:00:13 am
We're nearing the end of the first quarter of 2021 and we only have:

Chizuru's appearance made me happy for like a week and it quickly wore off.
After realizing how slow, tedious and underwhelming a lot of the content has been so far, my disappointment is immeasurable.

They had 5 years to work on it, but it looks like the work of 2 or maybe 3 years tops.
That's over 700 days being wasted.

If that's their capacity and limitation, then they should just stop digging their own graves since the gaming industry evolves rather quickly.
I know they're not Capcom, Bamco or even NetherRealm, but Jesus at least look as if it's a 2021 game not 2017.

What happened to Unreal Engine 4?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 12, 2021, 12:31:11 am
I'm sorry you feel that way, but it's far from the catastrophe you make it to be.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 12, 2021, 12:41:39 am
I'm sorry you feel that way, but it's far from the catastrophe you make it to be.

I'm just sad to see such a delightful franchise becoming more of a joke to the fighting game community.

I recently saw MainManSWE's reaction towards one of the teasers and his reaction was so demeaning that it made me mad how much KOF has become a meme at this point.
XV was going to be such a great chance for SNK to turn themselves around, but so far I'm not too impressed.

I'll just have to wait and see the final results.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 12, 2021, 12:49:54 am
I don't understand the "it's 2021 not 2017". 4 years aren't a big deal, the technology didn't make such a massive leap forward that you'd be able to tell from graphics unless 2021 means you were somehow expecting next gen tech. A game with SamSho's visual tech, middle-of-the-generation tech, is completely fine, you don't need a game that is this year's absolute latest top tech (it's 2021 sure but it's only March, man).

The problem with SNK is that they've never been able to do any proper marketing to save their lives. Starting with an opener like "shatter all expectations", "The King of Fighters 15 will be a 'supreme masterpiece' for the series", then doing 2 months of weekly videos that show the exact same game that we've seen a few years ago "except now we learned to make pretty 3D", please tell whoever came up with that strategy to stop doing any marketing already. Just wait 3 months and make one video showing "hey look, we learned how to make 3D, here's a comparison with XIV for all these characters at once, see the progress we've made" instead of trying to stir up a weekly hype with videos showing in great details how you changed nothing at all.
One reveal for the Sacred Treasures (revealing new graphics, new outfits, new character, new effects, and a legendary team-up), then a couple months later a bunch of characters at once showing the graphic evolution for everyone (no need to showcase everyone's entire moveset if it's exactly the same as 14), that would be how to build the hype. The weekly trickle of showing absolutely no change, one character at a time, is just hammering that nothing changed, it's the opposite of building hype.

This is not KoF becoming "more of a joke" in the gaming community, this is just not happening. I don't know how long you've been following them but they've never been able to properly market their flagship game, ever. Did you even see how it went when they revealed 14, when the entire gaming community absolutely trashed the graphic style to hell and back ? This is not new.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 12, 2021, 01:13:12 am
I recently saw MainManSWE's reaction towards one of the teasers and his reaction was so demeaning that it made me mad how much KOF has become a meme at this point.

Look, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and every game has its faults.

Street Fighter 5 being one of the best selling games from the past years hasn't redeemed it of having shitty netcode, even if it it's actual rollback (I have a lengthy list of things why I haven't supported this game since day 1). Guity Gear even having the best looking graphics is still relatively obscure and not widely played because many consider it daunting to get into. KOF XIII albeit being the best thing SNK has put out in years was criticized for using Hi-Res pixel art and "being too anime". And MVCI having the hottest property, Marvel Superheroes at their freaking MCU Historical peak, sold peanuts and it's shunned by mostly everyone because it didn't include the X-Men.

But a Tekken Youtuber being your thermometer to base what you feel about a different type of fighting game (yeah, 3D Fighters like Tekken, DOA, Virtua are their own thing) even when he confesses he doesn't even know the lore or characters, well, I'm not sure it's a great idea.

Let's face it, Fighting Games are sort of a dying genre, or considerably small when compared to other genres selling in the millions, whether it's Sports Games, or Shooters, or the freaking single player open world graphics ARMS RACE, Fighting games actually require an investment of your time to be enjoyable at all because they're meant to be competitive.

A friend of mine applied to get into SNK, they're basically just offering entry level and intern positions. They never truly recovered from the bankruptcy thing, and having their games be considered second class products by Sony and forcing them to sell them in packages of 2, we gotta face it, they're far from Triple A devs and are actually closer to Indie Devs. While Capcom is dipping their toes in Face Scanning and paying off actors to use their likeness, and outsourcing 3D models (which results in inconsistent designs in SF5, which rubs me the wrong way, mind you) and have several teams holding up their financials pumping out new Resident Evil and Monster Hunter and Megaman games, all SNK has is in-house development and licensing their IP for free to play mobile games.

My expectations are not shattered, they're adjusted. I understand what's going on with them, and I know what to expect. I know their products may not be on par with Triple A Devs like Capcom and Bandai Namco, but at least they're still around, to whatever financial viability they can be. And that's OK for me. The games still play well, the lore continues to move forward, and the long time fans from all over the world are expecting the new installment to devour the experience, the lore, the storytelling, the kick ass soundtrack.

Maybe it has become a niche thing *shrugs*
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 12, 2021, 02:20:44 am
I don't understand the "it's 2021 not 2017". 4 years aren't a big deal, the technology didn't make such a massive leap forward that you'd be able to tell from graphics unless 2021 means you were somehow expecting next gen tech. A game with SamSho's visual tech, middle-of-the-generation tech, is completely fine, you don't need a game that is this year's absolute latest top tech (it's 2021 sure but it's only March, man).

The problem with SNK is that they've never been able to do any proper marketing to save their lives. Starting with an opener like "shatter all expectations", "The King of Fighters 15 will be a 'supreme masterpiece' for the series", then doing 2 months of weekly videos that show the exact same game that we've seen a few years ago "except now we learned to make pretty 3D", please tell whoever came up with that strategy to stop doing any marketing already. Just wait 3 months and make one video showing "hey look, we learned how to make 3D, here's a comparison with XIV for all these characters at once, see the progress we've made" instead of trying to stir up a weekly hype with videos showing in great details how you changed nothing at all.
One reveal for the Sacred Treasures (revealing new graphics, new outfits, new character, new effects, and a legendary team-up), then a couple months later a bunch of characters at once showing the graphic evolution for everyone (no need to showcase everyone's entire moveset if it's exactly the same as 14), that would be how to build the hype. The weekly trickle of showing absolutely no change, one character at a time, is just hammering that nothing changed, it's the opposite of building hype.

This is not KoF becoming "more of a joke" in the gaming community, this is just not happening. I don't know how long you've been following them but they've never been able to properly market their flagship game, ever. Did you even see how it went when they revealed 14, when the entire gaming community absolutely trashed the graphic style to hell and back ? This is not new.

Let me elaborate more on my points:

<2021 not 2017 graphics>
I meant in the sense that KOF XIV's graphics (despite being released in 2016) was closer to a PS3 game than a PS4 one. That would mean it was a a whole generation of console behind its competitors.

You also state that 4 years is not much, but it's actually the opposite.
Mortal Kombat is an excellent example of this.
MKX was released in 2015 while MK11 was released in 2019.
Here's the graphical comparison:

You can tell that if a company has the mind to it, they can vastly improve a game's graphics within 4 years. And NetherRealm is NOT a triple A company like Capcom or Bamco.

<KOF becoming a joke is a myth>
Tell that to the Japanese, Chinese and Korean players who were the pioneers of KOF's glory days.
A twitch streamer I enjoy watching has been playing SNK games for 30+ years and does it for a living + bought thousands of dollars of SNK's stocks through KOSDAQ and even he stated that the franchise's future looked grim.

Also, If you search on twitter and look at many of the reactions made by these people, you see them mocking the franchise as "dead" or being "irrelevant". They don't take the game seriously anymore as they used to unlike KOF'98 or KOF'02.

Sure, SNK's marketing is a problem but KOF: ALL STAR was a massive hit around the world and it wasn't due to some success at the marketing department at Netmarble, it was the franchise's nostalgic elements that sold the game.
At least KOF XIII looked visually pleasing and one of the main reasons why it did so well was thanks to its clean aesthetics and smooth gameplay.

Marketing only improves one's sales, but trying to wrap garbage with wrapping paper doesn't make the garbage any more presentable.
It should only be blamed if a game is perfectly good, but it financially did terrible which KOF XIV (and maybe KOF XV) was not.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 12, 2021, 02:32:37 am
And NetherRealm is NOT a triple A company like Capcom or Bamco.
whatwhatWHAAAAT? Warner Bros' pockets are  probably deeper than both of those guys for sure

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 12, 2021, 02:34:37 am
And NetherRealm is NOT a triple A company like Capcom or Bamco.
whatwhatWHAAAAT? Warner Bros' pockets are  probably deeper than both of those guys for sure



Oh come one.
Just because a parent company is rich, doesn't mean the studio is.

SNK is owned by 37Games and you don't see them getting any richer now do you?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 12, 2021, 02:35:09 am
You also state that 4 years is not much, but it's actually the opposite.
Mortal Kombat is an excellent example of this.
MKX was released in 2015 while MK11 was released in 2019.
Here's the graphical comparison:
None of that is relevant. Do graphics evolve as an entire generation of console passes ? Of course. Does that mean that a middle-gen game shouldn't come out at the end of the gen ? What the fuck of course not. There's nothing wrong with a middle-gen-tech game coming out at the end of the generation. Who the fuck cares that other companies can transform how a game looks over a generation if they keep pouring money into it.
"NRS is not an AAA company" lol yeah right have you not heard of Warner Bros who have been bankrolling the game since they bought NRS.
Just because a parent company is rich, doesn't mean the studio is.
The parent company being rich doesn't mean the studio is rich, but if the studio has an open line to the parent company's bank vault it absolutely does mean the studio is rich. This is not the case for SNK.

Also, If you search on twitter and look at many of the reactions made by these people, you see them mocking the franchise as "dead" or being "irrelevant". They don't take the game seriously anymore as they used to unlike KOF'98 or KOF'02.
The franchise died in 2001, then in 2002, then in 2006, then after XIII. Anyone who claims that XV existing means the franchise is dead is just plain out of touch with reality.

Sure, SNK's marketing is a problem but KOF: ALL STAR was a massive hit around the world and it wasn't due to some success at the marketing department at Netmarble, it was the franchise's nostalgic elements that sold the game.
Evidence of the contrary : there are other KoF mobile games. They don't do well. And you barely know they exist.
Netmarble has had franchises like Marvel and Seven Deadly Sins and a bunch of other massive IPs, they know how to advertise their shit. I wouldn't have touched KoFAS if it had been made by Tencent.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 12, 2021, 02:35:20 am
I meant in the sense that KOF XIV's graphics (despite being released in 2016) was closer to a PS3 game than a PS4 one.
That would mean it was a a whole generation of console behind its competitors.
Can't argue with this, it's true. SNK made a pixel art game when Capcom put SF4 out, and now it's making a SF4-looking game when SF5 exists.

And that's O.K.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 12, 2021, 02:41:58 am
You also state that 4 years is not much, but it's actually the opposite.
Mortal Kombat is an excellent example of this.
MKX was released in 2015 while MK11 was released in 2019.
Here's the graphical comparison:
None of that is relevant. Do graphics evolve as an entire generation of console passes ? Of course. Does that mean that a middle-gen game shouldn't come out at the end of the gen ? What the fuck of course not. There's nothing wrong with a middle-gen-tech game coming out at the end of the generation. Who the fuck cares that other companies can transform how a game looks over a generation if they keep pouring money into it.
"NRS is not an AAA company" lol yeah right have you not heard of Warner Bros who have been bankrolling the game since they bought NRS.

Also, If you search on twitter and look at many of the reactions made by these people, you see them mocking the franchise as "dead" or being "irrelevant". They don't take the game seriously anymore as they used to unlike KOF'98 or KOF'02.
The franchise died in 2001, then in 2002, then in 2006, then after XIII. Anyone who claims that XV existing means the franchise is dead don't seem to understand a thing about how the world works.

Like I said, NRS is only backed by Warner Bros (a monster of a company) but that doesn't mean the company itself is Triple A.
It's on its way, but it sure ain't close enough to be even considered a "Triple A"

To your point regarding graphics.
Yes, graphics shouldn't be the medium on deciding whether a game has good qualities or not.
World of Warcraft is a great example, sure.

But you also need to realize that games like KOF have always been the laughing stock of 3D modelling.
KOF MI was mediocre at best and XIV was tragic.

They look tacky and yeah some people may enjoy the more retro perspective of visual art, but with other fighting games such as SF, Tekken, MK, SoulCalibur, Injustice, Guilty Gear, Blazblue dominating the market, I just don't understand why SNK still forces itself to compete with them.

They should've stayed doing 2D sprite work than doing 3D.

Trying to save a few cents is starting to bite them in the ass.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 12, 2021, 02:44:53 am
They look tacky and yeah some people may enjoy the more retro perspective of visual art, but with other fighting games such as SF, Tekken, MK, SoulCalibur, Injustice, Guilty Gear, Blazblue dominating the market, I just don't understand why SNK still forces itself to compete with them.
hahahaha

Because it's a free world and they're still making money man!

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 12, 2021, 02:48:25 am
Like I said, NRS is only backed by Warner Bros (a monster of a company) but that doesn't mean the company itself is Triple A.
And like I said, NRS being backed by WB doesn't mean that it is an AAA company, but that doesn't stop NRS from being an AAA company anyway because of the money WB pours into it. Stop talking in hypothetical. NRS and MK are massive names nowadays, it's absolutely an AAA franchise, it's easily on the level of Street Fighter for the public at large since the last couple of games.

KoFMI doesn't count. XIV was their first 3D game.
And 2D hasn't sold shit in years (not at the levels of SF and MK and Tekken), especially for the amount of work it represents now compared to 3D. Last time they tried that, they ran out of money in the middle of the game and got XII out and then XIII was "XII if we hadn't ran out of money last year". 15 is "here's 14 again now that we learned how to do 3D".
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 12, 2021, 02:48:32 am
They look tacky and yeah some people may enjoy the more retro perspective of visual art, but with other fighting games such as SF, Tekken, MK, SoulCalibur, Injustice, Guilty Gear, Blazblue dominating the market, I just don't understand why SNK still forces itself to compete with them.
hahahaha

Because it's a free world and they're still making money man!

I mean, hopefully man.

I'm no SNK-hater. Just wanted to make that clear.
I make only SNK characters in MUGEN for god's sake.

My frustration is based on something so minimal and basic yet it takes so long for SNK to satisfy it.

On the bright side, I enjoyed XIV's gameplay.
Hopefully XV shares that at least.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Jmorphman on March 12, 2021, 02:53:24 am
Can't argue with this, it's true. SNK made a pixel art game when Capcom put SF4 out, and now it's making a SF4-looking game when SF5 exists.

And that's O.K.
I dunno, I think XV's overall aesthetic is way better than SFIV (and SFxTK, for that matter), no question. It's a massive improvement compared to XIV, which I still wouldn't describe as looking like a PS3 game either!

Certain animations and the lack of "oomph" in any and all hits still unfortunately don't feel up to par with SFIV, though. And I'd say that's the most important part.

I don't understand the "it's 2021 not 2017". 4 years aren't a big deal, the technology didn't make such a massive leap forward that you'd be able to tell from graphics unless 2021 means you were somehow expecting next gen tech. A game with SamSho's visual tech, middle-of-the-generation tech, is completely fine, you don't need a game that is this year's absolute latest top tech (it's 2021 sure but it's only March, man).
100%. So many problems in the industry are caused by the graphics of AAA level games being the bare minimum of what is considered acceptable by mainstream audiences, and so every studio is out killing themselves to provide comparable or better visuals.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 12, 2021, 02:54:12 am
Like I said, NRS is only backed by Warner Bros (a monster of a company) but that doesn't mean the company itself is Triple A.
And like I said, NRS being backed by WB doesn't mean that it is an AAA company, but that doesn't stop NRS from being an AAA company anyway because of the money WB pours into it. Stop talking in hypothetical. NRS and MK are massive names nowadays, it's absolutely an AAA franchise, it's easily on the level of Street Fighter for the public at large since the last couple of games.

KoFMI doesn't count. XIV was their first 3D game.
And 2D hasn't sold shit in years (not at the levels of SF and MK and Tekken), especially for the amount of work it represents now compared to 3D. Last time they tried that, they ran out of money in the middle of the game and got XII out and then XIII was "XII if we hadn't ran out of money last year". 15 is "here's 14 again now that we learned how to do 3D".

Just wanted to point out that SNK tried doing multiple 3D games before. I dunno why you're giving MI a pass.

Maximum Impact series were developed and produced by SNK.
Sure it's not part of the main franchise, but it still is the works of SNK.

They had 3 games just with MI.
MI, MI2, MIA.

They also had a SamSho 3D game called Samurai Shodown: Edge of Destiny.
That was also a failure too.

So a total of FOUR 3D titles made by SNK all ending up in commercial failure while their most recent 2D game winning multiple awards for being one of the best games of the year.
Yet they thought it was smart to switch to 3D to save a few bucks.

Sad really...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 12, 2021, 02:54:24 am
Look man, check this one out, I promise you it's a good read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Fighters_XIV#Reception

The story it tells in restrospect is that the game made good money for SNK, that it was critically well received, and that it got criticism for looking ugly. They're fixing that, and KOF XV is on track to be what 13 was to 12. It will more than likely be a game to be played for years to come, I'm sure
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 12, 2021, 03:00:27 am
Look man, check this one out, I promise you it's a good read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Fighters_XIV#Reception

The story it tells in restrospect is that the game made good money for SNK, that it was critically well received, and that it got criticism for looking ugly. They're fixing that, and KOF XV is on track to be what 13 was to 12. It will more than likely be a game to be played for years to come, I'm sure

Though I have my doubts, I totally agree.

SNK always has this weird love-hate relationship with me that they disappoint me in the very beginning yet satisfies me at the very last.
XII and XIII are great examples.

Let's hope XV or even the next game becomes that very game that redeems my love for the franchise again.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 12, 2021, 03:00:52 am
Oh yeah, I forgot about SamSho Sen, that was their big jab at modern 3D and it bombed (there's also the two SS64 games and Warriors rage but that's too far back)

MI was made by Noise Factory then MI2 was the SNK Playmore era, which was a weird time. I'm pretty sure the current team (which is just the core SNK staff I think and none of the old satellite company like Noise Factory ?) doesn't have anything left from that period. XIV was starting over from scratch and it shows.

(with that being said, didn't SNK actually use to make 3D models and animate that before spriting over it even for the 2D period, at least in the later games ? They did have experience in doing rough models and animations, but not polishing it for commercial purpose, which, once again, shows in XIV, and some of the complex 2D anims in later games were clearly made over 3D animations)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 12, 2021, 03:08:53 am
MI was made by Noise Factory then MI2 was the SNK Playmore era, which was a weird time. I'm pretty sure the current team (which is just the core SNK staff I think and none of the old satellite company like Noise Factory ?) doesn't have anything left from that period. XIV was starting over from scratch and it shows.
For sure a weird time. and KOF MI may not have been super successful, but those were some pretty fun and engaging games, and the soundtrack has all sorts of influences that made it very memorable. Particularly KOF MI2 is of my favorite KOFs ever.

And I agree with you that they have NOTHING to salvage from this 3D adventure almost 10 years apart coming into the dev cycle for XIV.

This is also an interesting read about budgets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Fighters_XIV#Engine

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on March 12, 2021, 05:34:25 am
At least KOF XIII looked visually pleasing and one of the main reasons why it did so well was thanks to its clean aesthetics and smooth gameplay.

KoF XIII never did well. It (and by extension XII) was a financial disaster for SNK, they ran out of money while developing XII and had to release it in its obvious beta state just to be able to afford to finish the game. XIII took almost a decade to even pay itself, during which time SNK had to pump out pachinkos just to stay afloat.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 12, 2021, 06:30:03 am
KOF never was a visual game like capcom always was so we have  good examples when capcom made Capcom vs SNK and SNK made SNK vs. Capcom pocket edition, well witch game will you buy first? if youve never played a snk game, of course the capcom's version so I think that wasn't good for the company in the future buyers, no matter how good your game is, it must be cool on visual contents too. that was the reason almost MK was gonna died but thanks good SNK are changing their mind with KOF15
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on March 12, 2021, 11:03:14 am
Now THIS is the Yuri I know and love.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 12, 2021, 06:50:21 pm
The trickle of characters is kinda, meh... but hey, with the World being hit by the pandemic even companies like Capcom have had to adapt and adjust the releases of stuff.  Regardless, I'll happily buy XV on release. I do which the sound effects felt a bit meatier... but then, I went back to '94 for a bit and that still sounds pretty brutal. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on March 12, 2021, 07:09:35 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwPnVmyVIAIREB9?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 12, 2021, 07:12:30 pm
Well that's a better look than ever at how weird that haircut is lol. Short all over, except super long at the very bottom on the neck. I don't even know how it gets thick enough to braid.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Jmorphman on March 13, 2021, 12:05:01 am
(with that being said, didn't SNK actually use to make 3D models and animate that before spriting over it even for the 2D period, at least in the later games ? They did have experience in doing rough models and animations, but not polishing it for commercial purpose, which, once again, shows in XIV, and some of the complex 2D anims in later games were clearly made over 3D animations)
I believe they started as early as the late 90s/early 00s with that method, but I'm not 100% sure about that. They definitely were using it intensely for XII/XIII, and even featured some behind the scenes details showing off both the process and some of the 3D models themselves.

I'm pretty sure they're still using at the very least some of the animations they developed for XIII too: Yuri's Chou Upper in XIV and XV looks identical to the specific (also very weird and pretty bad looking IMO) animation she had in XIII.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on March 13, 2021, 06:38:23 am
lol i had a dream today , that snk released kof xiii UM , with updated roster , polished gameplay and new moves...

think we can get iori flameless as dlc in xv? and it seems yuri is with AOF team and not the women's team. kof is revealing the staples first like , kyo/iori , the hero team , AoF , FF and probably next will be the ikari team after AoF.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 13, 2021, 09:07:19 am
Well that's a better look than ever at how weird that haircut is lol. Short all over, except super long at the very bottom on the neck. I don't even know how it gets thick enough to braid.

Yes ! Looks like they just stick a braid to the previous haircut without thinking much.
Even if the actual haircut looked better than the previous one, this braid confuse me a bit.
I hope a mod can remove it in the PC version ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nexus Games on March 13, 2021, 02:59:08 pm
i thought i was the only one who thought her braid was just there like they just stuck a braid behind her head...they should of gave her...her old hair style back but this this graphic style and she could still keep the same costume in the trailer
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 13, 2021, 03:22:13 pm
The only thing that's kinda bugged me about Yuri is the stance she got in XII/XIII. It seems to have kinda been moved to XIV and XV and I dunno... it just seems like it's very bunched up and small compared to 94-XI. At least I suppose it's not as dramatic as Ryo's change of stance from 96' onwards, heh.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on March 13, 2021, 06:21:54 pm
back on the subject of "NRS/WB arent triple A studios"

dawg my girlfriend knows what MK11 is. She doesnt even know what a Gundam is.

I had to explain to her wtf KoF was as a franchise.

I heard two midwestern baby boomers go to each other "yeah yeah my grandson he uhhhhh been playin that mortal kombat game that came out."

 im very very very sure that makes NRS/WB games' stuff household names.


that is all.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on March 13, 2021, 11:44:31 pm
back on the subject of "NRS/WB arent triple A studios"

dawg my girlfriend knows what MK11 is. She doesnt even know what a Gundam is.

I had to explain to her wtf KoF was as a franchise.

I heard two midwestern baby boomers go to each other "yeah yeah my grandson he uhhhhh been playin that mortal kombat game that came out."

 im very very very sure that makes NRS/WB games' stuff household names.


that is all.

It helps Mortal Kombat is getting a new movie too.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 14, 2021, 12:07:33 am
Definitely the other way around, the movie follows the game's success. Unless you think WB was planning all along to revive the movie franchise, and bankrolled the games just to boost the popularity of the future movies several years later. (tbf it's possible they had that in mind all along but they wouldn't have gone with it if the games failed) (I haven't checked but I'm assuming that the movie is at WB)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on March 18, 2021, 02:58:12 am
:v terry is here
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on March 18, 2021, 03:01:46 am
So I guess next week they'll show Robert then show a random character before Ryo.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 18, 2021, 03:15:51 am
The big surprise is bringing back Terry's classic attire rather than his KOFXIV duds.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on March 18, 2021, 03:44:11 am
I was expecting the team to be something different like terry might be teaming up with some others else instead of andy and joe while andy and joe would be teaming up with some others as well  :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on March 18, 2021, 03:54:39 am
I like the shark shop sign in the background. Also, sort of new Lvl. 3 super for Terry is pretty neat.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 18, 2021, 05:11:37 am
Shatter all expectations

Yeah okay this has been Team Fatal Fury for 27 years with only like 1 or 2 exceptions





SNK stop playing it safe
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on March 18, 2021, 05:22:23 am
im hype for all these new arrangements of classic themes.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 18, 2021, 05:48:17 am
Terry being terry
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: senorfro on March 18, 2021, 07:25:00 am
Terry' new lvl. 3 ends almost exactly like Yamazaki's did in 14
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 18, 2021, 09:12:05 am
It's getting better every time.
This is a REAL trailer.

I hope they will not weaken their efforts.
I really hope Shermie (and her team) will be back. <3 <3 <3
Also, Rugal and many others...
Evenrything is possible
SNK, take your time, but make it well...

It was a good move to wait a bit to show Terry, so they took enough time to give him good appearance. (not like the characters of first teaser/trailer)
But not too late, so, they can "get attention" of Smash bros ppl As soon as possible.

I'm glad to see this team again, even if it shatter NOTHING...

Also, glad Terry go back to his own style, not the cool-wannabe look he had in 14.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 18, 2021, 11:14:13 am
The effects on Andy's moves (hishouken, chou reppa dan) are changed already, the chou reppa dan still looks too watery but the hishouken is an improvement to the weird whirlpool from his trailer (still not great though).
edit - nevermind, the crd is the same and it seems the hishoukens in the Andy vid were all EX and the ones in the Terry trailer are not.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 18, 2021, 04:22:22 pm
I love Terry's model. The art direction is so clear, the colors are so vibrant and the characters are on their way to looking their best. I mean, Terry XV looks better than Smash Terry, which was previously the best he'd ever looked.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on March 18, 2021, 05:11:26 pm
Kinda underwhelming that they didn't evolve his design in any meaningful way. I really like how some of the characters feature more streamlined takes on their classic attire (like Kyo) but Terry just plays it safe.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 18, 2021, 05:58:25 pm
I'm actually glad that Terry is back to his old design. Power Dunk, Power Charge and Rising Tackle? I'm sold! Love the idea for his Climax Super, although it's a shame that Michael Max is in the background I'd like to see more old school characters joining in. Still, the Fatal Fury 2/Special sound bite was a nice touch before actually seeing the team in action.

It'd be nice if we started to see whole teams announced soon, a character per week is dragging it out a bit, lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on March 18, 2021, 08:05:52 pm
If SNK keeps following the current pattern for reveals, this is how I predict will be the reveal schedule for the next weeks:

*24/03: Robert Garcia
*31/03: Either Clark, Kula or King
*07/04: Ryo Sakazaki
*14/04: Either Ralf, Maxima or Mai, depending on who we got on the 31
*21/04: another random character, unrelated to the characters from the 31 and 14
*28/04: Either Leona, K' or whoever is the last member of the Women team, again depending on who we got on the 31 and 14
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 18, 2021, 09:32:58 pm
Wait... if Andy looks that good now, what on EARTH would Robert look like?? (Please, PLEASE ditch the XIV and NGBC looks, although I wouldn't mind his 2003 look!)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on March 19, 2021, 03:34:20 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwzrJm4UYAEj_jy?format=jpg&name=large)


Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on March 20, 2021, 02:36:34 am
SNK plays safe by returning with the classic outfit for Terry. And damn, that new Climax looks amazing!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 20, 2021, 02:38:01 am
SNK: Doesn't play it safe
Also SNK: Goes bankrupt twice

... in a way I kinda get why they're playing it super safe nowadays.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 20, 2021, 09:04:37 am
What I want to know is when will they start to actually shatter expectations. So far, the only surprising thing they did was revealing Chizuru, which isn't that surprising.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on March 21, 2021, 01:22:27 am
Then what exactly you expect?

They maybe are saving the better stuff for later. Just be patient.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 21, 2021, 01:28:18 am
We may not be getting some big XV news until the next Japanese FG Roundtable and who knows when that'll be before the next major news in EVO Online.

Till then we're stuck with weekly trailers for the obvious reveals that are high on orange juices.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 21, 2021, 02:04:53 am
I just think SNK is going about all this stuff way too slowly.

I'd kinda prefer if they began doing a team reveal a week, or if they can't do that, at least two reveals a week. This one-reveal-a-week (prioritizing characters we already have seen in XIV, minus Chizuru) is getting a bit... taxing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on March 21, 2021, 03:13:56 am
Showing a single character each week allows them to program the game at their own pace without worries while still keeping a steady income of news.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on March 21, 2021, 03:25:11 am
I think I get the logic behind it; doing minor updates in a slow pace, and occasionally show some brand new stuff from time to time, might be better than just waiting the same amount of time showing nothing at all, and then releasing one or two 'big' updates before hiding in the shadows for a long period again, until the game's release.


They're showing that the project is going steadily, and I'm honestly satisfied with that. "But then..."

you could always make some kind of teasers, for the stuff that is still in progress... That could allow for some more healthy discussion, while still building hype for the game during it's own development.


Just saying... They did something like that with the DLC silhouettes in KoF XIV, and I think mostly everyone can agree that it was a success. ;)
(they did the same for SNK Heroines yeah, but the whole concept of that game was always to attend a niche part of their audience anyway.)



Now,

if you wanna really, actually shatter my expactations, SNK...

...then, resurrect just 1 fighter from either the Sports Team, or the Maximum Impact saga - because I seriously think they might just never bother enough with those poor characters again. :lipsrsealed2:



Hey, in a slightly different topic now...

Giving the evident frequency of SNK reusing assets from their previous projects... What might be the odds of them bringing up someone from their 'pretty much' KoF XIV lookalike - SNK Heroines? (i.e. Shermie, Jeanne D'Arc... maybe Skullomania too, I dunno)

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 21, 2021, 10:37:15 am
I remember seeing the USA Sports team revealed for '98. Whilst they were never going to be as popular as Terry, Ryo, Kyo etc... the hype was decent for them. That, and I really like Brian. :)

Bringing back  the Sports Team, New Face Team, Saishu.. even Jhun, would be something. Bringing in MI Characters? Doubtful, but it'd be wild if the Meira brothers and say, Lien formed a team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on March 23, 2021, 12:26:00 pm
I think that this week or some other will have a new character debut because that would be interesting, like Kukri or maybe a former character who was present in Ash saga.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on March 24, 2021, 03:58:42 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExNadxyU8AM8eL2?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1374541788417982464/photo/1
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
https://twitter.com/i/status/1374180022651551750
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 24, 2021, 08:16:24 am
There's a fair amount of speculation about it. Most obvious would be Ryo, but that collar and it looks like he's wearing a jacket? I'm actually hoping that it's Ryo in some funky new threads, but we'll see soon enough. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on March 24, 2021, 11:42:29 am
Lol, just quickly after my rant about SNK not teasing characters more like they did in the previous game! ;P Jk

I do hope they will keep doing this for a few more times.


There's a fair amount of speculation about it. Most obvious would be Ryo, but that collar and it looks like he's wearing a jacket? I'm actually hoping that it's Ryo in some funky new threads, but we'll see soon enough. :)


Ryo with a jacket

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100322220629/sonic/images/c/c4/ASR_Ryo.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 24, 2021, 11:46:42 am
Oh, oh this is interesting.

I think it's Shen or Ryo, but since Ryo is buffer than Shen, I'd wager it's Ryo.

Or... an entirely new character lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 24, 2021, 12:08:02 pm
The hair seems a bit too small for Shen... although, who's to say he didn't get a haircut? XD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on March 24, 2021, 12:38:35 pm
Could be Ryu, and the theory of the last SFV character being a KoF character could be true.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 24, 2021, 01:13:37 pm
Ryo Sakazaki with different clothes...
Or Ryo Hazuki, you're righ, but seems pretty surprising.

Or Mr Karate 2nd (Ryo)

Also, I first thgought of Ryu, but it doesn't really looks like Ryu.


But it would be a nice step.

Ryu in KOFIV
Kyo in SFV

Then CVS3... ^^
one more step
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 24, 2021, 02:01:20 pm
I think it's Shen or Ryo, but since Ryo is buffer than Shen, I'd wager it's Ryo.
Don't forget everyone is getting a lot more buff in this style, so it could still be Shen.
I don't believe they'd reveal him so early though, if Shen is in (I barely expect him to make it).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on March 24, 2021, 02:25:02 pm
Don't forget everyone is getting a lot more buff in this style, so it could still be Shen.
I don't believe they'd reveal him so early though, if Shen is in (I barely expect him to make it).

I will GLADLY pop up for Shen but Ryo to be revealed makes sense since AOF team would be next one. I do wish to have XI incartnation with the future final member being King.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on March 24, 2021, 02:43:33 pm
The one who looks the closest to that silhouette is Maxima.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mgbenz on March 24, 2021, 03:00:38 pm
He's way too damn jacked to be Shen but I guess they're going the thicc men route judging by their comments on Terry's design so it's a possibilty.


And I welcome all of that. Bring all the thicc men. LOL
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on March 24, 2021, 03:26:32 pm
I also read a lot on Twitter that they think it "could" be Yashiro. What do you guys think of that?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 24, 2021, 06:20:28 pm
I don't think it looks like "classic" Yashiro, but I would like it to be him!

BEcause it means Shermie will be there too <3

Perhaps a slightly redesigned Yashiro... After all they are into trends and always kept their 97 style :)
(a style I like for them)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DatKofGuy on March 24, 2021, 07:41:57 pm
it's clearly Ryo with his design from the AOF OVA
(http://animeperson.com/images/screen/4614b4d9b9.jpg)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 25, 2021, 03:02:44 am


"Ryo" Trailer.  Dang he ripped.

Can't wait for his Lady appearance to make a cameo.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on March 25, 2021, 03:03:51 am
They picked the wrong version.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on March 25, 2021, 03:11:53 am
This means that Shermie and Chris are back too, which means Saigado will get inspired once again.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 25, 2021, 03:12:17 am
I didn't know when a king of fighter dies and they got back between deads they arrived younger than before  :nuttrox:
(https://i.ibb.co/4TC65RP/mwo-x1000-ipad-2-snap-pad-750x1000-f8f8f8.jpg)   :nuttrox:  :yuno: :muttrox:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 25, 2021, 03:15:18 am
Everyone thinks Shermie and Chris are inbound, but then the next trailer drops:

•Orochi Yashiro with full screen grabs.
•Lady Yashiro with shock nuke

Team "Yash Bash".
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 25, 2021, 03:20:20 am
I noticed that his lines aren't fully recorded yet.

Also, regarding his design I think he looks the best out of all the teased characters so far!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 25, 2021, 03:37:55 am
(https://i.imgur.com/j890PiC.gif)

Yeah I'm happy. THANK YOU SNK!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: T_DR on March 25, 2021, 03:47:35 am
Looks like the band is back together! Literally. :D
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on March 25, 2021, 05:14:11 am
C You Soon.

Well, from what happend in KOF XIV surely Yashiro, probably Shermie and Chris would return.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 25, 2021, 05:31:31 am
Yashiro looks hot as always. It kinda surprises me how they don't want to change the old returning characters' designs too much, returning after such a long time would be the perfect justification for a new appearence. Anyway, I wonder if Yashiro's (and, likely, Chris and Shermie's) appearence means they will also include their Orochi versions.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on March 25, 2021, 05:34:11 am
It is poetic for Yashiro to be squaring off against Iori. The new shirt/jacket looks dope!!!
Quote
Anyway, I wonder if Yashiro's (and, likely, Chris and Shermie's) appearence means they will also include their Orochi versions.
I would have preferred a merged moveset for all three to spice things up, the close was Shermie in NGBC with one of her supers having electrical flair.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 25, 2021, 05:48:18 am
I just have to say it.
The simpler a character looks the better for SNK characters.

Yashiro has two distinct colors White + Red and he looks gorgeous.

PLS SNK! Make your visual updates more like this and less like Skittles!!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DatKofGuy on March 25, 2021, 08:16:23 am
C You Soon.

Well, from what happend in KOF XIV surely Yashiro, probably Shermie and Chris would return.

Didnt they all get resurrected in SNK Heroines. That game is canon isnt it?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on March 25, 2021, 08:17:12 am
Welcome back Yashiro!
We missed you so much!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 25, 2021, 08:32:39 am
So, it's a rdisegned Yashiro. With more mosern style!
I have to say I like it!

I'm a little bit worried that they change shermie too much.
I really hope they will not "censor" her to match post 2015+ standards.

Now, I think only good thingd can happen.
At least I hope so!

BTW, you can CLEARLY notice that "new" characters (not present in kofXIV) are very well animated.
Seems like they took key frames poses from classic KOF games.
Looks like what they did in "Super SFIV" when they added Dudley, Ibuki etc, I remember you can feel the SF3 key frames compared to SFIV vanilla characters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on March 25, 2021, 10:40:34 am
lol I thought it was singo at first  :mlol: anyway, I was thinking that it would feel something "different" which are not seen before from other past kof games to see yashiro and maybe the other two: chris and shermie if they are in to be able to transform into their orochi form during match unless if these three are trapped inside verse to the present day before kof97 before they revealed themselves as orochi's servants
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on March 25, 2021, 12:24:11 pm
Awesome seeing it actually being Yashiro, and that leaves me with;
My heart is screaming; SHERMIE :smitten:
But my nightmares are screaming; CHRIS ... :mcry:


(It's a contrast to me. I really love playing Shermie, but I really dislike Chris's moveset. Yashiro is awesome tho.)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on March 25, 2021, 02:02:51 pm
 :o
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on March 25, 2021, 02:55:08 pm
Notice how Yashiro is acting friendly towards Iori in their interaction. I believe this implies that he doesn't really remember anything that happened at all. Since Orochi was sealed for good in the previous game I guess they'll take their team in a new direction, possibly to redeem them.

C You Soon.

Well, from what happend in KOF XIV surely Yashiro, probably Shermie and Chris would return.

Didnt they all get resurrected in SNK Heroines. That game is canon isnt it?

"Canon". The whole game is treated as just being a dream sequence, so it didn't really "happened".

Awesome seeing it actually being Yashiro, and that leaves me with;
My heart is screaming; SHERMIE :smitten:
But my nightmares are screaming; CHRIS ... :mcry:


(It's a contrast to me. I really love playing Shermie, but I really dislike Chris's moveset. Yashiro is awesome tho.)

Guess I'm not the only one who detests Chris.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 25, 2021, 03:12:22 pm
Glad to see they made the Bash punches a little bit more dynamic and varied.
It feels like a waste to have the exact normal versions because now we're expecting the Orochi versions, which feels like a waste of select screen space to have 3 characters twice. Especially the supers being copies of the main Japan team.
Unless they also give us a classic Kyo (with Mu Shiki) and claw Iori.
Notice how Yashiro is acting friendly towards Iori in their interaction. I believe this implies that he doesn't really remember anything that happened at all. Since Orochi was sealed for good in the previous game I guess they'll take their team in a new direction, possibly to redeem them.
I thought regular Yashiro was always the smiling type. In a mean way because he's making fun of you, but it doesn't surprise me to see him *act* friendly with Iori. He's probably taking the piss, I imagine. IIRC it's more Orochi Yashiro that's openly aggressive.

I really like Chris' moves. On paper, anyway, the concept is cool (love his two supers, teleporting somersault and chain slide touch). The various dancer slides and direction shift are hard to use and not actually effective much, though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 25, 2021, 04:15:19 pm
Well Yashiro hates Iori. The only reason he entered KOF 97 (in his non-Heavenly King persona) was to punch him lol

And I'm willing to agree with the lost memory thing because Yashiro seems friendly, and there's a frame of him being stunned. So I'm led to believe Iori is insulting him or calling him out on being an Orochi follower or something and he has legitimately no idea what he's talking about.

So I can get behind that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 25, 2021, 04:33:27 pm
:o
[youtube]https://youtu.be/9dyL8IBMwjQ[/youtube]

his face expression is much better in kof 2002 while he's doing his supers
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 25, 2021, 08:07:49 pm
"Canon". The whole game is treated as just being a dream sequence, so it didn't really "happened".
You're feeding gay dreams you cannot possibly comprehend, are you telling me that Iori being a tsundere for Kyo is canon? Because Iori blushed for Kyo after waking up from a dream.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 25, 2021, 08:10:58 pm
"Canon". The whole game is treated as just being a dream sequence, so it didn't really "happened".
You're feeding gay dreams you cannot possibly comprehend, are you telling me that Iori being a tsundere for Kyo is canon? Because Iori blushed for Kyo after waking up from a dream.

I don’t know how much of Heroines is canon but IIRC the Shermie storyline is at least canon (of her being alive again)

I could 100% be wrong but last I remember that much IS canon and the rest is just a huge joke for the hell of it lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 25, 2021, 08:11:27 pm
According to SNK, Heroines is canon enough to know that Shermie is alive and well, which alongside the also very much canon manga KOF A New Beginning (which every KOF should mean IMO, as it explains Geese's Alt Costume) would mean that yesterday's announcement of Yashiro shouldn't catch us by surprise :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on March 25, 2021, 08:21:17 pm
"Canon". The whole game is treated as just being a dream sequence, so it didn't really "happened".
You're feeding gay dreams you cannot possibly comprehend, are you telling me that Iori being a tsundere for Kyo is canon? Because Iori blushed for Kyo after waking up from a dream.

Was it REALLY necessary saying GAY dreams? You're being a bit homophobic here.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 25, 2021, 08:44:24 pm
Everyone expected the NFT to come back the second KoF XIV ending said that dead and erased people were getting revived, that was already canon.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 25, 2021, 08:54:38 pm
Was it REALLY necessary saying GAY dreams? You're being a bit homophobic here.
Oh, yeah, the gay guy saying there is something gay in the canon equals homophobia. Amazing logic.

Speaking of the canon, with the Orochilings here, is it possible for Orochi himself to show up? I can't follow this series' story to save my own life.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 25, 2021, 09:03:26 pm
Orochi was already taken care of in XIV’s official invite ending I think. The Sacred Treasures Team finds him in a weakened state in Hungary I believe and they seal him away in a cutscene.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 25, 2021, 09:10:52 pm
Poor guy got beaten in a cutscene. I wonder who will be the boss in this game, then. They keep bringing more and more powerful characters, don't they? Where is the limit?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 25, 2021, 09:14:26 pm
The final boss will obviously be the American Sports Team
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on March 25, 2021, 09:51:34 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExTzA0FWQAIbPt-?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExSnBEzXEAI6SnG?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExSnBVXWUAcRypi?format=jpg&name=large)
1997 Thats nice detail
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 25, 2021, 09:54:57 pm
At least Hotaru is somewhat relevant again in All Stars.  K9999 is in a vegetative state ever since he was retconned.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 25, 2021, 10:00:05 pm
At least Hotaru is somewhat relevant again in All Stars.  K9999 is in a vegetative state ever since he was retconned.

pleasse hotaru is my wifefu in the snk universe
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 25, 2021, 10:02:11 pm
It is my headcanon that K9999 consistently goes to beat up the American Sports Team to steal one of their invites but finds their invites have already been stolen by somebody else by then
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on March 25, 2021, 11:32:11 pm
According to SNK, Heroines is canon enough to know that Shermie is alive and well, which alongside the also very much canon manga KOF A New Beginning (which every KOF should mean IMO, as it explains Geese's Alt Costume) would mean that yesterday's announcement of Yashiro shouldn't catch us by surprise :)

The manga was endorsed and supervisioned by SNK but it is not canon, especially considering how many liberties it takes with the story. They may end taking some ideas from it but it was always intended to be its own thing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 26, 2021, 12:49:34 am
I wonder if SNK will consider adding non-SNK guests, like they did in KoF All Star. I know doing that on mobile is probably easier, but I'd love to see The Rock in this game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on March 26, 2021, 01:07:21 am
Was it REALLY necessary saying GAY dreams? You're being a bit homophobic here.
Oh, yeah, the gay guy saying there is something gay in the canon equals homophobia. Amazing logic.

Speaking of the canon, with the Orochilings here, is it possible for Orochi himself to show up? I can't follow this series' story to save my own life.
Yo' bitch, I'm not gay. The correct expression would be WET dreams, not GAY dreams.


Also, Orochi was sealed back in XIV by Chizu, Kyo and Iori.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 26, 2021, 01:10:06 am
I think he was saying he was gay
Either way the point does stand, though



The new heavenly kings are the American Sports Team. You all doubt me but I'll have the last laugh when Heavy D is shown off after Ryo next week
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on March 26, 2021, 01:12:59 am
I think he was saying he was gay
Either way the point does stand, though



The new heavenly kings are the American Sports Team. You all doubt me but I'll have the last laugh when Heavy D is shown off after Ryo next week

Dunno, this guy is a total hatter and most of his posts are like this.

Also, Yashiro is OK, Shermie is OK and Chris is TERRIBLE, IMHO
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 26, 2021, 01:16:03 am
Dunno, this guy is a total hatter and most of his posts are like this.

Also, Yashiro is OK, Shermie is OK and Chris is TERRIBLE, IMHO

I meant your point stands haha, my bad.

I like Chris though I do concede he's the worst of the three. Though, I can't help but be enamored by the New Faces Team. I'm not sure why. I think it's just the concept of them coming back canonically and what it means for the story of the game.

... then again, watch SNK ONLY include Yashiro.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 26, 2021, 01:22:08 am
If they removed Orochi and they end up not adding the Orochi versions of the NFT for one reason or another, then I don't know what they're going to even do with them. Just adding them back for the hell of it because of the demand ? Or will they take a new direction story-wise.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on March 26, 2021, 01:38:43 am
In that case, I'd prefer orochi moves' to be added to their current sets, but dunno :/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 26, 2021, 01:41:57 am
That's easy.

That'll be $25 to preorder our Season Pass 1 that includes the Orochi team please.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 26, 2021, 02:02:58 am
If the Orochi Team ends up as separate characters and not transformation supers for the base cast, I hope they're treated like echoes in the same slots as CYS and don't take up additional roster space. Sorta like what they did in 2002 UM.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on March 26, 2021, 02:05:30 am
If they wanna shatter expectations they'll drop Chris and replace him with Goeniko.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 26, 2021, 02:10:24 am
I'm pretty sure SNK has acknowledged Goeniko, so, while it would certainly be surprising, it wouldn't be impossible. Though it was kind of a missed opportunity to not put her in SNK Heroines.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on March 26, 2021, 07:01:47 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExXtwtvVoAYHtuI?format=jpg&name=large)

And you fellas know well the ones alongside Yashiro right? :v

Can't wait SNK to reveal Shermie.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 26, 2021, 07:03:52 am
Ugh he looks gorgeous


Also GEE, I can only wonder who is standing on either side of him

Hmmmmmmmm








Kensou and Kula, obviously
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on March 26, 2021, 09:27:36 pm
(https://i.redd.it/4n17v5604bp61.jpg)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on March 27, 2021, 04:56:16 am
At least Hotaru is somewhat relevant again in All Stars.  K9999 is in a vegetative state ever since he was retconned.

they could just redesign him a bit , keep the attitude and personality so angel can have her own team again.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 27, 2021, 05:23:33 am
I feel like they could easily just mesh K9999's design with Nameless' design and create some kind of hype looking hybrid

K9999 is his codename but he goes by Nameless after defecting from NESTS

... idk, I'm trying to think of a way he could come back. Even though I'd honestly prefer Nameless
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 27, 2021, 07:36:23 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExXtwtvVoAYHtuI?format=jpg&name=large)

And you fellas know well the ones alongside Yashiro right? :v

Can't wait SNK to reveal Shermie.

Same here !
I hope they will make her look at least as good as SNK Heroines version.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on March 27, 2021, 08:06:21 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExXPPl0VIAQex_o?format=png&name=900x900)
....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExaV9YVW8AYCGU4?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 30, 2021, 04:22:20 pm
Videoman, stop posting memes with no context to news of the game >:(
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on March 31, 2021, 05:11:32 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExxVxV5VgAIY15Y?format=jpg&name=large)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 31, 2021, 05:26:16 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on March 31, 2021, 05:52:49 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 31, 2021, 06:01:30 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DatKofGuy on March 31, 2021, 03:20:28 pm
I think its Shermie with a slight redesign
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on March 31, 2021, 03:43:21 pm
It's clearly Goro Daimon
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mgbenz on March 31, 2021, 03:44:02 pm
IT'S PIKACHU!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on March 31, 2021, 05:33:30 pm
That's probably Blue Mary or Whip.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 31, 2021, 06:04:27 pm
Ash crimson or King because of their sleeves
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on March 31, 2021, 06:27:05 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExxVxV5VgAIY15Y?format=jpg&name=large)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

What if it is Elizabeth?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 31, 2021, 06:40:16 pm
The hair is too small to be Ash. And if that’s mostly the hair then his head is too small.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 31, 2021, 07:00:56 pm
I want it to be King, but I can kinda see Ash... although... Shion? Hair might be too short though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 31, 2021, 07:44:58 pm
Please, tell me it's not Shermie!
Sure I want to see Shermie, but not like that!!

She seems to have very thin body, It's certainly Whip. Or Elisabeth, perhaps ? I don't know.

If it's King, She can definitely look good!
And it could definitely be Angel... even if I also hope they didn't changed too much her style.

And I don't think it's Ash, even if it's clearly possible...

D*mn, here, trailer will be at 3am... I will not sleep XD

OK, edit : I'm 99% sure it's Angel.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on March 31, 2021, 08:13:24 pm
Elisabeth or Angel
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on March 31, 2021, 08:40:21 pm
It can be King, Ash, Whip, Shermie (with a new hairstyle), or Elisabeth
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 31, 2021, 08:45:03 pm
So it could possibly be King with a new haircut (the XIV one was god awful), Whip with no whip, Blue Mary with a jacket, Shermie with a new haircut, Elisabeth, Angel, it might also be Ash or Shion or... It'll be faster with a list of those it CAN'T be, like Goro and Choi.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 31, 2021, 09:03:29 pm
While I can believe it to be Ash, it’s the hair that keeps me from agreeing completely. It’s too small.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on March 31, 2021, 09:21:19 pm
While I can believe it to be Ash, it’s the hair that keeps me from agreeing completely. It’s too small.

Yes, definitely. At least I think the same...

But still 99% sure it's Angel, and 1% for a new Ash...

But since the game shatter all expectations. we cannot be 100% sure of anything

@Byakko, yes, it looks like so many characters ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 31, 2021, 10:11:21 pm
I'm voting Whip and I'm thinking they removed the whip between her hands (hence the odd pose). She's the closest match for both the jacket and the hair (bottom of the hair is a 100% match). Presuming it's not a redesign, but I don't see who could get a new haircut like that without ruining the original design.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on March 31, 2021, 10:21:20 pm
it couldn't be blue mary that body is too slim to be her. hair is too long for king and elizabeth. but it looks like whip's length.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 31, 2021, 10:39:22 pm
It's clearly Goro Daimon
:idea: Lady Goro Daimon
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 31, 2021, 10:41:54 pm
I’m still betting on King.

Yuri had her hair done different this game. I can see King’s being done just a bit differently here too.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on April 01, 2021, 04:03:46 am
Its King

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on April 01, 2021, 04:04:05 am
The most beautiful KOF waifu returns
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on April 01, 2021, 04:07:07 am
Great that her VA still remains the same after all these years.
Regarding her model... I'm disappointed to say the least.

No new redesign nor fluid movement.
Her pants look like they are made of plastic.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on April 01, 2021, 04:07:52 am
CALLED IT.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Jmorphman on April 01, 2021, 04:19:01 am
Jeez, do they just do not want to give anything any HitPause at all? King's Trap Shot and Silent Flash look absolutely putrid, there's no weight to any of their hits. :no:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on April 01, 2021, 04:26:57 am
I liked her new combos possibilities but they didnt show her level 3 super :/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on April 01, 2021, 04:43:26 am
King's Trap Shot and Silent Flash look absolutely putrid, there's no weight to any of their hits. :no:
Look, it is either this or have her manifest orange juice from her shoes.  We can't win.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on April 01, 2021, 04:44:43 am
they remade king's aof2 stage
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on April 01, 2021, 05:36:27 am
lmfao it looks like shes dropping fps mid-animation
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on April 01, 2021, 06:19:28 am
 Not too thrilled on her artwork. King now has resting bitch face. :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 01, 2021, 07:19:25 am
She looks like another character. She almost look "Japanese"
(This is not a bad thing, the face is OK, but it's not very King-like)

The overall model is good about proportions, but strange rendering.
The haircut is kind of ok, I suppose.

I'm not a big fan of this version of costume. Looks like the fashion style she could have in KOF MI... very 2005/2006 style.

I would have not mind an actual redesign for her costume, but anyway...

Gameplay wise, she looks OK, but trailer is not enough to judge.
I still have this feeling the animations lacks of something... hard to say.

I like the stage, I like the classic voice.

And last thing : I'm freaking glad this is NOT Shermie!!! (neither Angel)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: senorfro on April 01, 2021, 07:27:39 am
I'm hoping it's just because it's still in development, but Venom Strike/Double Strike looks and sounds worse here than in 14
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 01, 2021, 08:44:33 am
I'm hoping it's just because it's still in development, but Venom Strike/Double Strike looks and sounds worse here than in 14

Agreed. Even the FX looks damn weird. Looks like King is throwing water from her feet.

I liked her new combos possibilities but they didnt show her level 3 super :/

She have some good combos, specially because of her Trap Kick's overhead that is back (thank God SNK put her overhead back!)
And the very beginning of her Climax appears in the trailer. It's pretty much Ctrl+C-Ctrl+V of KOF XIV, again...

Jeez, do they just do not want to give anything any HitPause at all? King's Trap Shot and Silent Flash look absolutely putrid, there's no weight to any of their hits. :no:

And looks nearly worst than in KOF XIV, which is something quite worrying.

In other note, i really enjoy they bring her AOF2 stage in such atmosphere. Buuuut...
(https://i.imgur.com/owRVXeb.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/uKN0NC3.png)

I see what you did here SNK. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on April 01, 2021, 09:09:53 am
(https://i.imgur.com/uKN0NC3.png)

I see what you did here SNK. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
OH NO, THEY DIDN'T!!!

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 01, 2021, 08:26:20 pm

The comparison with XIV
Man, that Venom Strike is literally just a silhouette filled with a wavy surface. And they dropped the slash effects on her kicks. And I won't even talk about that haircut - sometimes I forget if XV is on the left or right side of that comparison. And when the fuck is SNK going to give up on making Surprise Rose a thing ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 01, 2021, 08:39:28 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/uKN0NC3.png)

I see what you did here SNK. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
OH NO, THEY DIDN'T!!!



Yep, they did it. :v
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on April 02, 2021, 12:37:28 am
And when the fuck is SNK going to give up on making Surprise Rose a thing ?

Thank God I'm not the only one that feels that way! I'd rather see her get new moves to replace Surprise Rose (Normal or DM) and Silent Slash.
Even bringing back the Tornado Kick '96 or her auto combo would be switching it up a little more.

Does make me wonder if Mai is going to be a copy and paste too. :/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 02, 2021, 12:48:16 am
and Silent Slash.
Wait hold on don't talk shit about Silent Flash >:(
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on April 02, 2021, 01:08:03 am
I loved it in '97 onwards... possibly just because I liked the SDM version. The CvS / XIV version just doesn't feel as heavy hitting to me.

Fine, fine... let's keep that as long as we can yeet Surprise Rose into the sun!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Japanese Jesus on April 02, 2021, 04:28:53 pm
Why is Iori suddenly getting a big media push? Is he particularly popular?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on April 02, 2021, 04:43:35 pm
In some parts in the globe namely South America, this guy is as revered as Superman so of course he'd be the focus. (https://i.redd.it/q00uo5hibgp61.jpg)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on April 02, 2021, 04:45:52 pm
In some parts in the globe namely South America, this guy is as revered as Superman so of course he'd be the focus. (https://i.redd.it/q00uo5hibgp61.jpg)

Cool
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on April 02, 2021, 04:58:26 pm
In some parts in the globe namely South America, this guy is as revered as Superman so of course he'd be the focus. (https://i.redd.it/q00uo5hibgp61.jpg)
Hi, South American here, where I live, Iori isn't even close to Superman's popularity and I dare say he isn't the most popular fighting game character either.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 02, 2021, 05:06:26 pm
In some parts in the globe namely South America, this guy is as revered as Superman so of course he'd be the focus. (https://i.redd.it/q00uo5hibgp61.jpg)

I can confirm what Macaulyn said.

Indeed Iori is popular here in Brazil but not that much. Iori have a strong popularity in other parts of South America, specially in Mexico and Argentina.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on April 02, 2021, 05:10:14 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ex9SCaDUYAAjhqj?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 02, 2021, 05:56:52 pm
Why is Iori suddenly getting a big media push?
Is he ? Where ?
(image : look forward to her older attacks making a big comeback)
What do they even mean, they showed one old attack, big whoop.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on April 02, 2021, 06:13:24 pm
Iori is the most popular KoF character (excluding FF and AoF) outside of Japan, and especially in South America (where he is even more popular than Terry in some countries), and has been consistently for more than a decade. Kinda surprised SNK wasn’t doing much more with him until now.

Indeed Iori is popular here in Brazil but not that much. Iori have a strong popularity in other parts of South America, specially in Mexico and Argentina.

Mexico is indeed one of these places. Everybody and their mother plays and loves Iori.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 02, 2021, 09:22:25 pm
Why is Iori suddenly getting a big media push?
Is he ? Where ?
(image : look forward to her older attacks making a big comeback)
What do they even mean, they showed one old attack, big whoop.

Like was mentioned Byakko, in some parts of South America he's strongly popular. :v

And yeah, only her overhead returns from what they showed in the trailer.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 02, 2021, 10:01:00 pm
I mean what's this about a sudden big media push, is there some sort of ad campaign in South America happening lately ? Or are you guys just saying generally
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on April 02, 2021, 10:14:42 pm
There isn't.  I was just over exaggerating on Iori.  He's popular but it's not like he's gonna appear on TV anytime soon.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on April 02, 2021, 11:49:34 pm
Why is Iori suddenly getting a big media push? Is he particularly popular?

in south america they have a holiday called iori day.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on April 07, 2021, 02:31:15 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1379614910078808064
women team confirm or maybe not
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on April 07, 2021, 03:07:47 pm
Ok, this one guess was clever AF: :lfor:

https://twitter.com/ninjasmacks/status/1379633413221679108?s=19 (https://twitter.com/ninjasmacks/status/1379633413221679108?s=19)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 07, 2021, 05:37:15 pm
Ok, this one guess was clever AF: :lfor:

https://twitter.com/ninjasmacks/status/1379633413221679108?s=19 (https://twitter.com/ninjasmacks/status/1379633413221679108?s=19)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

lol xD

But damn SNK, didn't even try hard to hidden in a more clever way. :v
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mgbenz on April 07, 2021, 06:22:53 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1379614910078808064
women team confirm or maybe not

I hope so. I want Takuma back. Hell I'll even take them introducing Butt to the team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 07, 2021, 07:09:34 pm
Definitely no hidden this time ^^

I hope they improved her appearance compared to first appearances...
Also, hope she's not just a copy paste of KOFXIV move list. (even if it's already good)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on April 07, 2021, 07:50:23 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1379614910078808064
women team confirm or maybe not

I hope so. I want Takuma back. Hell I'll even take them introducing Butt to the team.

which reminds me we need a bit more motw characters that weren't in the actual kof game such as the two kims who are the sons of kim kaphwan, freeman, the two bosses grant and kain, kevin rian, and even hokutomaru
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on April 07, 2021, 08:37:34 pm
I feel like the AOF team ending in KoF XIV was setting up the appearance of Marco.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on April 07, 2021, 10:15:02 pm
I mean, Mai was already revealed in Andy's trailer. It was bound to happen eventually. Better question is, who's the third member of Team Women?

Ok, this one guess was clever AF: :lfor:

https://twitter.com/ninjasmacks/status/1379633413221679108?s=19 (https://twitter.com/ninjasmacks/status/1379633413221679108?s=19)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

That's actually really good. XD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kaczor787 on April 08, 2021, 12:01:29 am
Yuri was first then was King and now will be Mai. Original Women Team Complete
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on April 08, 2021, 01:01:16 am
Yuri could be on Ryo's team as well. Last game Alice was on the Women Team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 08, 2021, 01:18:23 am
They're working the trailers by teams, and we still haven't seen another Kyokugen rep. They started the NFT/CYS team, Yuri, and King+Mai, so I can see the Mai trailer to end with the completed women team (then finish Yashiro's team) rather than leave 3 teams unfinished.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on April 08, 2021, 04:13:11 am


So no OG Women's Team it is then.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on April 08, 2021, 04:16:41 am
I liked that the new EX Kacho Sen is loosely inspired from Anji. Definitely better than KOF11 Athena copying Milla Rage.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on April 08, 2021, 04:24:17 am
Well she isnt Women Fighters Team this time
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on April 08, 2021, 05:25:19 am
King in the AOF team again then for more RyoxKing let's goooo
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on April 08, 2021, 07:06:55 am
Mai looks the same as her 14 counterpart so nothing to say much here.

I wish we get to see more new faces like Chizuru or Yashiro...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 08, 2021, 07:34:11 am
Mai looks the same as her 14 counterpart so nothing to say much here.

I wish we get to see more new faces like Chizuru or Yashiro...

Yes, I have the same feeling.
Overall she look better than in her first apearance in early trailers.
But doesn't seems to have so many improvements in her move set.
Also her super move is a bit... average (to me)

Yes, I want to see more new comers now!
I want to see Shermie, but also, I feel like, the later they make her, the best she can be...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lichtbringer on April 08, 2021, 10:13:53 am
Is it just me or are all of her moves seem to be a little bit slower then usual?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on April 08, 2021, 11:51:43 am
Hmmm A women's team with No King, this could mean Fatal Fury's or unless Alice returns then it would be same team as last time. Also there is more flair in personality compared XiV.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on April 09, 2021, 02:16:23 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eyf0HgKVIAAnIxO?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on April 09, 2021, 07:47:30 pm
They literally had so much potential to redesign Mai for XV. She's literally Chun-li of KOF.

More flamboyant fans, more defined hairstyle, and/or revamped color schemes.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 09, 2021, 08:34:36 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eyf0HgKVIAAnIxO?format=jpg&name=large
Mai's story moving forward with Andy ? lol yeah right I'll believe it after I see it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on April 09, 2021, 11:34:13 pm
Since 1995 Mai has been trying to get marry with Andy so its time  she gets something hehe
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on April 10, 2021, 12:14:34 am
“Marriage or death — make your choice, Andy!”

I would like some kind of development with them, finally.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on April 14, 2021, 04:56:23 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1382151624915886080

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ey5RCLEVoAMjdIW?format=jpg&name=large)

SNK be throwing us curveballs.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on April 14, 2021, 04:58:57 am
..................

Chris?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on April 14, 2021, 05:33:16 am
I'm not going to give any wild guesses but it might either be a new brand character or character that appeared in a cutscene but not playable. It looks like they have hidden the character this time not to make it super obvious. It almost like that "Who's that Pokemon" eye-catch asking you to name it. In KOF case "Who's that fighter"
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nemuresu on April 14, 2021, 05:36:31 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1382151624915886080

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ey5RCLEVoAMjdIW?format=jpg&name=large)

SNK be throwing us curveballs.

The head shape and scarf remind me of May Lee, but that little "furry" thing around the character's neck rubs me the wrong way.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DatKofGuy on April 14, 2021, 05:39:44 am
Im gonna say it's Blue Mary
Doing her jacket win pose
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on April 14, 2021, 07:06:45 am
My wild guess: a slightly redesigned Botan - the girl that appeared in the cutscenes of pretty much every Ash saga game;

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcThgp06J4PxrJvyNQdE7claTa3ytw2GOwHH9g&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on April 14, 2021, 07:30:10 am
Oh shit I can totally see that


Yeah I’d take it
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on April 14, 2021, 07:47:17 am
My wild guess: a slightly redesigned Botan - the girl that appeared in the cutscenes of pretty much every Ash saga game;

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcThgp06J4PxrJvyNQdE7claTa3ytw2GOwHH9g&usqp=CAU)

gimme gimme pls
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: senorfro on April 14, 2021, 08:54:54 am
I'm going to say Hotaru, with her pigtails down.  That furry thing could be her pet.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 14, 2021, 08:59:43 am
Yes, 100% Botan !

But, why she would be in the game ? Anyway, it would be a great news having a character like her.
A bit the kind like I-No in GG series... :D

I only hope it's not a redesign of Shermie (again) inspired by this Botan furr stuff...

BTW, they're taking big risks displaying this furr on a character in 2021... Something they possibly have to remove later... -_-
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 14, 2021, 09:07:16 am
I'm still believe it is Shermie.

But if it's Botan, than SNK will take the "Shatter All Expectations" thing to the high level.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on April 14, 2021, 09:14:46 am
could be chris looks like it's wearing a shirt , but i do love the idea of a playable botan.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on April 14, 2021, 09:24:21 am
BTW, they're taking big risks displaying this furr on a character in 2021... Something they possibly have to remove later... -_-
Why is that a risk?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on April 14, 2021, 09:53:47 am
I'm still believe it is Shermie.

But if it's Botan, than SNK will take the "Shatter All Expectations" thing to the high level.

It would be but I guess it is only till reveal to know whether it shattering or safe?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 14, 2021, 10:12:35 am
BTW, they're taking big risks displaying this furr on a character in 2021... Something they possibly have to remove later... -_-
Why is that a risk?

because 2021, and twitter etc.

Anyway;
Either it's Botan or Shermie.
One detail make me wonderting a lot.
What can be this sleeve/hair like shape in front of her...

This time, I think It will be hard to go to sleep and not tay awake until 3AM (in my area)

EDIT:
Also, I'm affraid this one would NOT be completely stupid.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ey5tmMoWQAAd54h?format=jpg&name=small)
Please, please, please! Botan!!

EDIT2:
OK, It's Shermie... Almost sure now.
There is no fox or furr aroudthis character...
I only hope they didn't f*ck up Shermie's design...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on April 14, 2021, 11:15:18 pm
it's either shermie or chris. did they offiicially announced the women's team?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PeXXeR on April 15, 2021, 12:10:28 am
am I the only one who does not like Terry's "new" VA ? actually its not just terry I don't like half the voice cast in XIV.

That looks like Shermie to me, she has her hands like that in one of her winposes in the old games.... I think, it has been a bit.
If thats not Shermie, I have no clue  then.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lunchbillion on April 15, 2021, 12:23:03 am
I absolutely prefer the old Kyo, Terry & Joe VAs...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on April 15, 2021, 04:15:12 am


Botan was never meant to be :qq:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: senorfro on April 15, 2021, 04:16:19 am
Why are there hitsparks when she throws the opponent?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on April 15, 2021, 04:18:58 am
Eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!


She looks REALLY good. Love the personality in her movements. <3
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on April 15, 2021, 04:28:09 am
Damn, she is thick now, though I guess it makes sense for a grappler to have a bit more body mass. I like her redesign, its simple, but cool.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: AuMiO VXC on April 15, 2021, 04:32:06 am
All I want to see Orochi's return (as a character or as a cameo) and the impact of this in the plot.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on April 15, 2021, 04:47:15 am
I set myself up for disappointment wanting Botan  :^(

Shermie looks 100% more like a stripper now, but her gameplay looks better than ever. Probably won't be as fun as CvS EX Shermie though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on April 15, 2021, 05:26:36 am
I set myself up for disappointment wanting Botan  :^(

I was expecting Botan as well. Especially since she was going to make an appearance in the mobile game KoF Chronicle (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/KOF:_Chronicle), and that got shut down before they even went into the Ash Saga.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Jmorphman on April 15, 2021, 06:11:38 am
Man, they can't even give a grappler's throws the proper animation timing and impact. Well, most of them, at least. The suplexes seemed like they had a sense of weight behind them because there's a proper amount of buildup and anticipation, but overall... :-\

am I the only one who does not like Terry's "new" VA ? actually its not just terry I don't like half the voice cast in XIV.
I absolutely prefer the old Kyo, Terry & Joe VAs...
Yeah it really sucks they nuked almost the entire cast. The replacements just don't sound right.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on April 15, 2021, 07:02:10 am
I'm digging her new design. Hell yeah.

XV original characters seem so much more refined than the old XIV converts.

So with Shermie and Yashiro, Chris is literally guaranteed.

I'm now wondering who'd be joining Kim now. Same team from XIV? Chang & Choi? Jhun & May?
Shatter my expectations, SNK!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 15, 2021, 07:08:58 am
I'm sad for Botan, it could have been a great opportunity to have a NEW character with actual good design...


But after watching this Shermie trailer, I'm freaking so hyped.
The design is freaking perfect. Inever imagined they could make something better than the classic one.
SNK Heroines model looks from old generation now. :)

Her gameplay looks awesome. Her NeoMax/super is a bit strange, but overall, it's just freaking awesome.
Her Shermie Shoot from 97/98 is back. Does it means she don't have Diamond Bust ?

Damn! I need this game now. It will be a torture to wait until it's playable! ^^;

My only whish now is that they polish her even more and give her a very complete move list, with nothing lost, and some extra moves.


Question to you guys(and girls), until now, do we have the proof that there is DM/SDM , not only NeoMax-like unique super move?
I think this is some details I sometime not focus on. (they looks like EX moves or something)

EDIT:
And yes, after re watching, they could have put more weight into some animations.
But still it looks better than some previously seen characters.

Also, after checking her actual portrait, we can see they really played with us with the silhouette picture, bacause the hand is looking different.
They edited it to make us thinking it's actually an animal... or Botan's furr -_-


EDIT:
@Kolossoni
As a big Kim fan, I would love Jhun to join him, but it would mean there is only one place left for Chang and Choi -_-
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on April 15, 2021, 08:30:23 am
Question to you guys(and girls), until now, do we have the proof that there is DM/SDM , not only NeoMax-like unique super move?
I think this is some details I sometime not focus on. (they looks like EX moves or something)

I'm sure they added smth new for XV. A XIV + XIII hybrid I suppose.

And regarding Kim's team: I would love if Kim + Chang + Choi happened with Gang-il + Luong and Jhun as another team.
May Lee's chances seem lower but since she's young and a female character, she has chances outside of team Korea for this one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 15, 2021, 08:47:46 am
(https://i.imgur.com/0gPnaKd.png)
:3

Anyway, she looks damn good about gameplay. Even a new DM and that Climax tho!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 15, 2021, 09:09:30 am
Why are there hitsparks when she throws the opponent?
Grabs have a specific swirl effect. Strikes that grab have a regular hitspark.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on April 15, 2021, 09:24:07 am
Yup.
Chris will definitively be back in this game.
We missed them so much.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: senorfro on April 15, 2021, 10:08:03 am
Why are there hitsparks when she throws the opponent?
Grabs have a specific swirl effect. Strikes that grab have a regular hitspark.

No, not those.  Look at :30, :40, and :51 when she does the release German Suplexes.  When she actually throws them, there's a hitspark, that doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 15, 2021, 10:28:21 am
Anyway, she looks damn good about gameplay. Even a new DM and that Climax tho!
Yes! She looks so good! I'm glad they didn't tone down her appearance. In fact she never have been so hot...
the moves are good. I'm not quite fan of the new DM, but still looks OK.
The Climax is really fun, even if I would have prefered her to use her strong legs for this one. But I'm actually VERY glad to see something new.
Not (just) the "usual" inazuma leg lariat.

Question to you guys(and girls), until now, do we have the proof that there is DM/SDM , not only NeoMax-like unique super move?
I think this is some details I sometime not focus on. (they looks like EX moves or something)

I'm sure they added smth new for XV. A XIV + XIII hybrid I suppose.

And regarding Kim's team: I would love if Kim + Chang + Choi happened with Gang-il + Luong and Jhun as another team.
May Lee's chances seem lower but since she's young and a female character, she has chances outside of team Korea for this one.

Oh, yes! Now, we have enough characters to make 2 good Korean teams!
I just want Jhun to be back! :)
Yes, May Lee can be in another girl team or something. For May Lee, I whish for a smart redesign.

No, not those.  Look at :30, :40, and :51 when she does the release German Suplexes.  When she actually throws them, there's a hitspark, that doesn't make sense.

yes, the spark at 0:51 is really strange... I hope it's just because it's in developpement.

I can't wait to know more of the game system/mechanics.
It's a pain in the *ss to have nearly no informations about it. ^^;

Also, I'm a bit frustrated there will be no more chances to actually see Shemie in action for a long time... -_-
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PeXXeR on April 15, 2021, 12:46:57 pm
I love how curvy she is and whatnot, voice actress is meh, however that outfit is horrible omg what were they thinking ?
She looks like a hooker

From the gameplay side she looks good to me.
Shermie was always curvy, she was made thin on an accident in one of the kofs and SNK made changes to her spritesheet to be more.. well.. you know :D


Jman: Yeah it really sucks they nuked almost the entire cast. The replacements just don't sound right.

Maybe some of them have retired but still, most of them dont fit with me either.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on April 15, 2021, 02:05:21 pm
I love how curvy she is and whatnot, voice actress is meh, however that outfit is horrible omg what were they thinking ?
She looks like a hooker

From the gameplay side she looks good to me.
Shermie was always curvy, she was made thin on an accident in one of the kofs and SNK made changes to her spritesheet to be more.. well.. you know :D


Jman: Yeah it really sucks they nuked almost the entire cast. The replacements just don't sound right.

Maybe some of them have retired but still, most of them dont fit with me either.

I kind of agree on the whole hooker look. Not the biggest fan.
It's the black skirt and laces I think. Should've been a brighter color like yellow (homage to her ANOTHER costume back in '00).

Her VA is the same from SNK Heroines to KOF All Star, so no surprise in that.
But yeah, her original VA: Hazuki Nishikawa (KOF 97 ~ 02UM) has the best voice.
She had the little squeals when Shermie was super excited, whereas the new one sounds a little flat.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on April 15, 2021, 02:51:27 pm
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hooker

cringe
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on April 15, 2021, 06:26:12 pm
I used to dislike Shermie with a passion as a friend used to murder most of my teams with her back in 97/98.

But I think she looks awesome with this update! That Climax!  "Are you Okaaaaay?" *breaks everything!* ^_^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 15, 2021, 08:18:56 pm
She looks like a dominatrix, not a hooker c'mon.

About the VAs, sadly some of them are indeed not working for SNK anymore. Kunihiko Yasui is one that i miss a lot, no one matches him as Iori's VA.
There are few that still on like the legends Harumi Ikoma (King) and Kong Kuwata (Geese and Genjuro).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on April 15, 2021, 09:46:44 pm
Man, they can't even give a grappler's throws the proper animation timing and impact. Well, most of them, at least. The suplexes seemed like they had a sense of weight behind them because there's a proper amount of buildup and anticipation, but overall... :-\
Yeah, this is some hokey bullshit. Why is this backyard mudshow company trying to expose the business like this? These Japanese cosplay wrestlers have ruined wrestling worse than Tony Khan. Back in the 80's, moves had real weight behind them. The Midnight Express would've made these moves look better than Charlotte Flair with a banana. What's next, is she gonna wrestle the fucking invisible man?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PeXXeR on April 15, 2021, 10:08:00 pm
She looks like a dominatrix, not a hooker c'mon.

About the VAs, sadly some of them are indeed not working for SNK anymore. Kunihiko Yasui is one that i miss a lot, no one matches him as Iori's VA.
There are few that still on like the legends Harumi Ikoma (King) and Kong Kuwata (Geese and Genjuro).


Here's me thinking King's VA was not the original one. :rolleyes5:


As for the costume, I dunno, I prefer classy Shermie.
The costume is the only negative thing I have to say about her, gameplay wise she looks great.
I do want Orochi Shermie back as well.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on April 15, 2021, 10:09:59 pm
Here's me thinking King's VA was not the original one. :rolleyes5:

I feel like the way she says "Baby" will always be a clue as to what VA she's got, just the way she says it

Also ngl the way King says Baby has more weight than any of Shermie's suplexes

As for the costume, I dunno, I prefer classy Shermie.

Max got me thinkin that way too lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PeXXeR on April 15, 2021, 10:15:55 pm
I can understand where you are comming from about the suplexes I do agree they are a tad bit light but hey, all around she looks great.
I hope they also brought back her taunt, I hated it back in the day and loved it at the same time lol.

I'm pretty happy in general how KOF XV looks tbh, looks really fun.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on April 15, 2021, 11:02:05 pm
What's next, is she gonna wrestle the fucking invisible man?
Nah she is gonna team up with something that looks like a middle schooler and have established stars job out to him further proving that the industry these days appeals to dumb marks who were not born to witness actual talent such as those in Karnov's Revenge.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 16, 2021, 04:27:40 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzD2yfSVUAIfIiM?format=jpg&name=large)

Here's me thinking King's VA was not the original one. :rolleyes5:

As for the costume, I dunno, I prefer classy Shermie.
The costume is the only negative thing I have to say about her, gameplay wise she looks great.
I do want Orochi Shermie back as well.

lol :v
Ikoma and Kuwata still there rocking! I can say that Ikoma's voice as King on XV sounds even better than previous games.

I want the Orochi forms of '97 New Faces aswell. Hope they'll not come as DLC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 16, 2021, 11:53:07 am
Of course classic voices are something... No one will replace Mai voice or Terry's one.
Shermie voice is so so... for some reason it wasn't really a problem when I saw it in SNK Heroines.

But in a n actual KOF, it makes me miss the classic voice. This one looks a bit bland.

Also, I was very worried about Shermie design, but she's definitely perfect. Yes, a bit more on the dominatrix side, but it could have been worse.
Also, it's quite a surprise they went that far in the sexy way. (I wish her design will not be tone down later)
Actually Mai have less fabric on her ^^

Again, the gameplay looks good beside of the lack of impact and weight on throws.
Also her Climax is a bit strange (but OK) I would imagine Shermie finishing off her opponent in a more "graceful" way.
Not sure if it's the right word.

Now, I'm curious to see hop they will redesign Chris. ^^

And one more time, I like the artworks...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on April 16, 2021, 05:36:52 pm
It was already posted, like two posts before yours.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: HexagoN on April 21, 2021, 04:56:33 pm
Omg I think was sleeping because I didn't know that Kof XV realeased a official trailer and neither characters trailers already.  :o
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on April 23, 2021, 01:48:28 pm
Don't know if someone posted this already, but here's the theme for Team Sacred Treasures.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 23, 2021, 02:14:49 pm
So, not character trailer this week ?
The teams have to recover from the hardwork they put in the masterpiece that is Shermie ? ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 23, 2021, 02:33:34 pm
There was the Hibiki trailer for SamSho yesterday. If the Youtube team can only deal with one game at a time, they'll really need to pick up the pace for this game...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 23, 2021, 03:57:03 pm
There was the Hibiki trailer for SamSho yesterday. If the Youtube team can only deal with one game at a time, they'll really need to pick up the pace for this game...

Yes, that's true, and what they did about Hibiki is awesome!

Just, I cannot wait for the future KOF trailers ^^;
But yes, indeed, they should not release these 2 trailers at the same time/week.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on April 23, 2021, 05:44:54 pm
probably taking their time. seems like some trailers that were released were still in really early stages.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on April 25, 2021, 11:53:32 am
Maybe we'll get two in trailer like in KoF XIV, when Geese and Ryo were revealed at the same time.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on April 28, 2021, 04:18:08 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial_jp/status/1387225053058633730

Lots of comments saying it's Chris. I think so too but I'm hoping it's May Lee.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 28, 2021, 04:34:59 am
I don't think this is even a question.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 28, 2021, 06:17:32 am
For the pose, it's very clear who is. :v
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 28, 2021, 09:28:34 am
Obviously it's Chris.

But seeing how SNK make fun of us by editing the silhouette a bit to give fake clues...
Remember Shermie's hand becoming a fox/cat jumping of her shoulder...

But I cannot imagine it beeing someone else than Chris.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on April 28, 2021, 03:42:27 pm
Boring.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on April 28, 2021, 05:04:03 pm
For the pose, it's very clear who is. :v

could be a young brian battler who knows.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 28, 2021, 06:39:50 pm
Boring.

It was like on Mai's shadow. SNK didn't even try to hide lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: D.R.B on April 28, 2021, 09:57:39 pm
It's clearly Chris

Also, If Shermie isn't using her melons for offence and defence here again I'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 28, 2021, 11:14:51 pm
Also, If Shermie isn't using her melons for offence and defence here again I'll be disappointed.

Yes, I have this feeling they reduced her movelist. -_-
Also I have this bad feeling her design will be toned down... mostly because of some overeactions on social medias...
And some hm... specific artworks...

Hope for a good redesign for Chris, even if he's my less favourite from CYS
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on April 29, 2021, 01:59:43 am
Chris is one of the most boring designs of kof, if they can make it even mildly interesting then more power to them.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on April 29, 2021, 04:00:21 am


To the surprise of no one

And the delight of, well, me <3 <3

EDIT: Watching the trailer, I'm hyped. Music theme is great IMO, doesn't hold a candle to Bloody but I'm eager to hear a full arrangement.

Team name is Team Orochi, which makes sense. I doubt New Faces Team would've come back considering it would make less sense overall. Makes me wonder if they WILL get their Orochi forms during the game.

Chris has a simple design still but I found him interesting in this trailer at least. Also his special intros with Yashiro and Shermie are back, which is a huge plus. <3
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on April 29, 2021, 04:14:16 am
Kurisu is gonna dominate the meta isn't he.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on April 29, 2021, 04:27:51 am
Question: are these guys actually evil while pretending to be good or do they just get possessed in their Orochi forms?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on April 29, 2021, 04:30:45 am
Question: are these guys actually evil while pretending to be good or do they just get possessed in their Orochi forms?

In 97 they were mostly normal prior to being awakened to their true potential. Aside from Yashiro hating Iori for a petty reason yet wanting to brutalize him, and their demeanors having sinister undertones, foreshadowing their true natures, they were relatively average Joes compared to their Hakkesshu personas.

By the tourney's end, they end up awakening their Orochi powers, and they finally learn of their true destiny -- their personalities and fighting styles thoroughly change and they begin trying to resurrect Orochi (all three dying in the process).

Yashiro's trailer ultimately leads me to believe that they have no memory of what happened -- and I need to know how they came back to life since KOF XIII confirmed they returned to the living world prior to Verse even existing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on April 29, 2021, 04:35:18 am
SNK made him look even more like Justin Bieber and that makes me despise him even more.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on April 29, 2021, 04:42:41 am
1/3 for the cursed saigado team
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on April 29, 2021, 04:59:33 am
Not a fan of the suspenders hanging out, but he's alright.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on April 29, 2021, 09:03:33 am


Team name is Team Orochi, which makes sense. I doubt New Faces Team would've come back considering it would make less sense overall. Makes me wonder if they WILL get their Orochi forms during the game.


It makes sense if their team name is Orochi Team, New Faces Team is for the new characters who will form a team in kofxv. I have a feeling that their Orochi forms will be as a seperate "non-cannon" DLC characters much like Iori in kof13.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 29, 2021, 09:16:16 am
The redesign is a pretty ok to me.
I like the result.

Now, I hope they will not change them design-wise.
OK, for giving them more moves etc.

I think these 3 members are some of the best 3D worked characters, the job is done.

Damn, it will be long waiting to see more of these characters gameplay in action!! K', Shermie, Joe, Mai, Andy...
They have a strategy of "character confirm trailer" but we also want to know about the gameplay mechanics etc... ^^;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on April 29, 2021, 11:12:13 am
The non-boss forms are just boring, and the team being called Team Orochi doesn't bode well for their true forms.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on April 29, 2021, 12:57:14 pm
Chris is for me a very wasted slot, but that's ONLY my taste. I however, see the potential for a M-F-M story in Saigado.

I hope Chris' fans are happy with him being in, specially if his moveset is updated.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 29, 2021, 01:23:20 pm
Question: are these guys actually evil while pretending to be good or do they just get possessed in their Orochi forms?

In 97 they were mostly normal prior to being awakened to their true potential. Aside from Yashiro hating Iori for a petty reason yet wanting to brutalize him, and their demeanors having sinister undertones, foreshadowing their true natures, they were relatively average Joes compared to their Hakkesshu personas.

By the tourney's end, they end up awakening their Orochi powers, and they finally learn of their true destiny -- their personalities and fighting styles thoroughly change and they begin trying to resurrect Orochi (all three dying in the process).

Yashiro's trailer ultimately leads me to believe that they have no memory of what happened -- and I need to know how they came back to life since KOF XIII confirmed they returned to the living world prior to Verse even existing.
Even in games where they weren't alive anymore, Chris and Yashiro definitely have some sadistic or hateful vibe in how they speak, even though they behave like you would expect some average popular singers - and they're no different from the period where they were alive. (I don't remember much about Shermie, she's mostly just playful)
I'd say they were already at least bad people (the kind who would say "I wouldn't mind if a plague wiped out most of humanity" with a big smile) and they simply have a job in the entertainment industry with good social skills. Psychopathic tendencies in the pathological sense, basically. They're not genuinely good people who like to hang out with others but suddenly changed when they learned who they were. Most of their regular speech sound like average banter if you ignore the Orochi forms, but it just seems like the Orochi versions simply crank up the same rhetoric to the max.

Oh, regular Shermie has a battle quote (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Shermie/Quotes) against Chris and Yashiro saying "this is where it all begins... and ends", which actually hints that they do know between themselves that things will end in death, even in their regular form.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on April 29, 2021, 02:43:15 pm
Question: are these guys actually evil while pretending to be good or do they just get possessed in their Orochi forms?

stealing someone else's gig is pretty evil.

i'm guessing their orochi forms will be in the game, did anybody notice they've got a purple flame effect in their team announcement? others have screen cracking effects theyre the only ones with a special one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 29, 2021, 03:45:41 pm
Hm, right. Chizuru's trailer with the "team sacred treasure" card had regular burn effects and nothing else, Fatal Fury had just the previous screen crack and shatter to reveal the team with no other effect, and this one has purple flames and I think I also see lightning very briefly behind the flame, around the center. There's also some sort of light particles that could be about Yashiro (that the other teams didn't have either).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on April 29, 2021, 04:05:10 pm
OK!
So looking at their official name being Orochi, It hints me one thing that they are back for good and may remember past events. Thus having Sacred Treasures officially enter makes sense because to make sure real Orochi remains sealed.
Quote
Even in games where they weren't alive anymore, Chris and Yashiro definitely have some sadistic or hateful vibe in how they speak, even though they behave like you would expect some average popular singers - and they're no different from the period where they were alive. (I don't remember much about Shermie, she's mostly just playful)
I'd say they were already at least bad people (the kind who would say "I wouldn't mind if a plague wiped out most of humanity" with a big smile) and they simply have a job in the entertainment industry with good social skills. Psychopathic tendencies in the pathological sense, basically. They're not genuinely good people who like to hang out with others but suddenly changed when they learned who they were. Most of their regular speech sound like average banter if you ignore the Orochi forms, but it just seems like the Orochi versions simply crank up the same rhetoric to the max.

Oh, regular Shermie has a battle quote against Chris and Yashiro saying "this is where it all begins... and ends", which actually hints that they do know between themselves that things will end in death, even in their regular form.
Their design basis is pretty much one thing, the eerie mystery all three have about them. I remember watchin a video explaining the lore about the three, SHERMIE eyes are hidden all the time, Chris being durable for early teenage year kid and Yashiro may be that cool guy but you don't know how pissed off he is at you for some reason. In way they have a dark side that you know you want want to confront. Yashiro subconsciously awakened his due to Iori's band taking their spot.

Well now who's next?

Unless Yamazaki is confirmed then lets wait and see...lastly the song feels familiar like its mish mash of KOF 12 themes with Neowave...thats the vibe I get. But yeah I love this new theme.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on April 29, 2021, 06:26:35 pm
It's a decent update to Chris it seems... I love that his intros with the rest of the team are in there too. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on April 29, 2021, 11:33:47 pm
Not too bad. They have been going all out with amazing designs for the rest of the characters, so Chris actually looking decent is applauding.

Who's next?
Still holding out hope for Duck King.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on April 30, 2021, 01:56:09 am
It's a decent update to Chris it seems... I love that his intros with the rest of the team are in there too. :)

This I can agree with, even if I'm not a fan of the torn sleeve.

Who's next?
Still holding out hope for Duck King.

I just want Kasumi and Gato back.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on April 30, 2021, 02:37:03 am


Who's next?
Still holding out hope for Duck King.

I just want Kasumi and Gato back.

I believe Kasumi will be part of the game. Don't know who she would be paired up with, but probably the woman's team, but I'd love for her to be on a team with Temjin from Art of Fighting 2. He is the most out of left-field dream pick of mine for this game, since I really would love to see classic SNK characters come back. Maybe Kasumi, Temjin and Lee Pai Long?

Gato is awesome as well. I could see him with Rock Howard and Hotaru.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on April 30, 2021, 05:26:45 am
I just want Kasumi and Gato back.

I believe Kasumi will be part of the game. Don't know who she would be paired up with, but probably the woman's team, but I'd love for her to be on a team with Temjin from Art of Fighting 2. He is the most out of left-field dream pick of mine for this game, since I really would love to see classic SNK characters come back. Maybe Kasumi, Temjin and Lee Pai Long?

Gato is awesome as well. I could see him with Rock Howard and Hotaru.

If Kasumi were to return, realistically, I would hope that it's with the Anti-Kyokugen team from KOF XI (Kasumi, Malin and Eiji).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on April 30, 2021, 08:56:53 am
Orochi Team!
They're back!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on April 30, 2021, 02:51:36 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0L9PM8VoAA-45t?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on April 30, 2021, 03:05:44 pm


Now this is something I truly wasn't expecting to see; Quite nice. :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on April 30, 2021, 03:39:58 pm
"Reformed"

Curious to see what this actually entails.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 30, 2021, 03:45:33 pm
I can't wait to see who will be the next one!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on April 30, 2021, 07:10:47 pm
Hopefully a new face. I mean, I loved seeing the returning characters, specially Chizuru, but it would be great to see someone we haven't seen yet.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on April 30, 2021, 10:06:19 pm
Yeah, we can go for that....though who will be coming back to last game intact (new characters)?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 01, 2021, 01:54:46 am
Its safe to assume that at least 90% of the previous game's roster is coming back. Love Heart and Mui Mui both got retconned, Tung stepped down in favor of Benimaru and its likely the secretaries aren't returning as well.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on May 01, 2021, 02:36:11 am
so love heart and mui mui arent canon anymore?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on May 01, 2021, 03:11:23 am
Its safe to assume that at least 90% of the previous game's roster is coming back.

That's terrible news if someone wants a Twinkle Star Sprites team.

Though I don't mind them dropping that other magical girl whom I consider a Tesse rip off.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on May 01, 2021, 08:50:34 am
so love heart and mui mui arent canon anymore?

Due to them being from Pachinko titles and they were sold off to another company which got backrupt as well... Lover Heart was the one dont know about the MuiMui.

Theoratically if they cannot come back then, both can be replaced by Yuki from Last Blade  and any random female character from other games (Neo Geo).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 01, 2021, 01:38:52 pm
Anyone else tired of waiting week after week just for one character?

I wish they just released teams like XIV or at least multiple characters in each trailers.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 01, 2021, 02:09:38 pm
Anyone else tired of waiting week after week just for one character?

I wish they just released teams like XIV or at least multiple characters in each trailers.

Same here...
Particularly when you have to wait one week or more "just" to have Chris that we all expected. ^^;
I really wish they speed up the process...
Also, I want them to show some newcomers... Good ones!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on May 01, 2021, 03:04:24 pm
Anyone else tired of waiting week after week just for one character?
I have no objection on this tbh  :mlol:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on May 03, 2021, 10:07:06 pm
Anyone else tired of waiting week after week just for one character?
(https://i.imgur.com/MATAHXy.png)

Weren't you around in 2016? This is T H E   H Y P E    T R A I N ™

The whole point of releasing characters one by one and revealing what team they belong to adds to the speculation. And speculation, my friend, that's free marketing right there.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on May 04, 2021, 03:05:45 pm
Here is the new theme for Team Orochi....it is actually nice.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NGeo on May 04, 2021, 05:38:51 pm
lets see if the orochi personas get their own trailer or hopefully they are in game
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on May 05, 2021, 04:28:01 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1389761768004755457

Ash?

Edit:
There's a part of me that wishes its the 2 grannies in Groove On Fight. XD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 05, 2021, 04:35:57 am
The pose makes me think of a flying kick from someone like Kim (with some very large long sleeves instead of rolled up to the shoulders) but I can't tell who the head is supposed to be. Even that leg on the left side seems exaggerated for Kim. It just looks like two whole people. They're just coming up with the weirdest portraits to force this whole silhouette tease to work.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 05, 2021, 04:40:35 am
Duo Lon
Except this time Duo is pronounced duo cause two heads



In all seriousness, current thoughts -- Ralf and Clark with redesigns.

EDIT: Looking it over and it looks like two whole people but I can also see it being one person? I dunno this image is messing with my head.

EDIT EDIT: OKAY I THINK I GOT IT. It's Ryo.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on May 05, 2021, 05:05:58 am
The left head is the actual head, the middle is this person raising their fist with angry, with something like a jacket hanging on.

Pissed Off Biker Ryo?  Nelson redesigned?  Could also be K'.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 05, 2021, 05:31:19 am
Could be either Nelson or Yamazaki.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on May 05, 2021, 06:00:40 am
I'm between Ryo or Yamazaki. I don't think will be two characters in one trailer.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Niitris on May 05, 2021, 06:29:07 am
For the sake of pacing I hope it's two characters
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 05, 2021, 07:30:21 am
I would love it to be 2 characters, but it's DEFINITELY Yamazaki (or someone) 's coat sleeve going up with wind or something

only one character...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on May 05, 2021, 02:30:08 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1389761768004755457

Ash?

Edit:
There's a part of me that wishes its the 2 grannies in Groove On Fight. XD
it could be two of the kyo clones who appeared in 99 with different hairstyle :mlol: btw, shouldn't it be "The next Fighters are" instead of "The next Fighter is"? not sure if SNk giving typo error or trolling us though  :-X
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 05, 2021, 03:15:18 pm
The far right side of the silhouette looks like a foot. I think I see toes.
I think the 2nd head(?) is a kneecap, but I may be wrong.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 05, 2021, 03:29:32 pm
As crazy as the silhouette actually got this time, I got convinced by some tweets that it will probably just turn out to be Yamazaki using his intro coat, or something:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty



I would like to be wrong, though;

maybe it's another SNK veteran with some really wacky perspective going on his portrait... like this dude:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty


Or... even more crazy...

it could actually be...

...

a brand new character. :fear:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 05, 2021, 04:07:11 pm
Or... even more crazy...

it could actually be...

...

a brand new character. :fear:

Get the fuck outta here with that conspiracy theory bullshit



In all seriousness, a new character would be interesting... I kinda forgot all the trailers have just been for veterans. I suppose the long-time-absent-returnees in the form of Chizuru and Team Orochi make up the "newcomers".

Honestly I wonder if the "newcomers" to this roster will be mostly made up of returning characters who either died long ago and have been revived by Verse's defeat (such as Rugal, Gaidel, and Igniz, among others) or characters who have been absent from the games for a long time (such as Chizuru).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Troy99 on May 05, 2021, 05:00:08 pm
it's nelson. lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on May 05, 2021, 06:25:12 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1389761768004755457

Ash?

Edit:
There's a part of me that wishes its the 2 grannies in Groove On Fight. XD

Imagine this one being K9999 /Loushi! I mean the guy sported a Cape/Jacket
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: D.R.B on May 05, 2021, 09:42:07 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1389761768004755457

Could it be a guest characetr
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on May 06, 2021, 12:02:58 am
Could be someone that's PREDICTABO.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 06, 2021, 01:19:12 am
It could be a bag of chips.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 06, 2021, 03:14:30 am
Almost there... I'm starting to believe it could be Nelson. I don't really want it to be since... I'm not too invested in his character lol

I hope, if it is him, they make him more interesting

EDIT: Well, uh



I WAS HALF RIGHT.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on May 06, 2021, 04:04:11 am
I think I saw kohou shippuu ken and renbu ken, but no mouko raijin setsu...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on May 06, 2021, 04:06:55 am
ook no bad Ryu is a tank now
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 06, 2021, 04:09:59 am
Ryo's design I like, for the most part. I like his hair.

I don't like how he runs like a fuckin' meathead tho.

Robert looks pretty damn hot.

Currently questioning what team Yuri will be on now. I assume Women Fighters Team with Mai and... some other female. Maybe Kasumi. Idk.

If Mai gets put on some other team before we find out what team Yuri is on then I'm really gonna be asking what the fuck lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nemuresu on May 06, 2021, 04:11:06 am
Well, if there's any solace to take up from this is the possibility of more dual announcements. Would make the wait much easier.

There's only one thing that actually intrigues me and that's the fact that King is now in the AoF team. Whoever's joining Mai and Yuri in the Women's team better be someone who hasn't had a spotlight in years.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on May 06, 2021, 04:11:45 am
I refuse to believe Alice is that immensely popular that she will return and form Women's Fighters with Yuri and Mai.

Who am I kidding she and Sylvie got flipping alts in All Stars.  Their return is imminent.

Nice to see Ryo and OH SHIT it's Robert both manifest Sunny D in their bloodstream like the rest seriously why is that horrid FX still there
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on May 06, 2021, 05:19:35 am
Huh. Didn't see King forming a team with Ryo and Robert coming.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 06, 2021, 06:51:41 am
My goodness Robert's skin is super smooth.

Ryo's still the same XD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on May 06, 2021, 07:01:15 am
Ok one step closer to pushing Ryo and King into making babies. I dig. (On the flipside I’m kind of bummed that they didn’t follow up with the Ryo and Marco teamup the AOF team ending in XIV alluded to. Guess that was a dead end).

Stache Robert is still cursed as fuck though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on May 06, 2021, 10:19:21 am
Well, if there's any solace to take up from this is the possibility of more dual announcements. Would make the wait much easier.

There's only one thing that actually intrigues me and that's the fact that King is now in the AoF team. Whoever's joining Mai and Yuri in the Women's team better be someone who hasn't had a spotlight in years.

This marks the first time since 2000 & XI to have King with AOF team. But technically the first in canon(& to an extent KOF EX) to have Ryo team up with two kicking specialists. This was unexpected as my mind was on Yuri being final member until the reveal.
As far as Mai and Yuri goes chances are we might get old face back or maybe the third team member could likely be Nakoruru, if Pachinko girls are not coming at all. Alice is predictable to be there but shattering expectation would  be Kasumi, Maylee, B.Jenet, Hotaru Futaba, Malin, Hinako or Mary.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 06, 2021, 10:42:51 am
I'm.... surprised.

But if they keep up with 2 characters trailers, it's a good thing.
Not sure they will keep up with this.

Still not fond of the musketeer-like facial hair style for Robert, but still both od them looks good!

Again, I can't wait for the next ones...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on May 06, 2021, 10:56:42 am
I guess either Robert and Yuri (Robert and Yuri are a couple now) got a plan to get Ryo and King together or Mai wants Yuri back on her team or both.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on May 06, 2021, 05:13:20 pm
Still not fond of the musketeer-like facial hair style for Robert
Wrong reference! Check this out

(https://i.imgur.com/a44vrnB.png)

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Troy99 on May 06, 2021, 05:18:31 pm
ryo and robert silhouette was altered so much to the point where it looked like one char with boxing gloves with a hanging jacket lol.

i'm guessing women fighters team will be yuri, mai and mary. if they put alice to women fighters mary will be cucked to DLC once again, i don't think SNK wanna push pachinko characters further.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on May 06, 2021, 05:33:17 pm
Still not fond of the musketeer-like facial hair style for Robert
Wrong reference! Check this out

(https://i.imgur.com/a44vrnB.png)


That's more accurate. ^^

ryo and robert silhouette was altered so much to the point where it looked like one char with boxing gloves with a hanging jacket lol.

i'm guessing women fighters team will be yuri, mai and mary. if they put alice to women fighters mary will be cucked to DLC once again, i don't think SNK wanna push pachinko characters further.


I hope for Mary in Women Fighters Team aswell Troy.

Well, i'm very surprised and happy that King is on AOF Team again like in KOF XI. Curious how should be her interaction with Ryo cause AOF Team's ending in XI had that tension between them.

About Ryo and Robert. I didn't like Ryo's run animation, not at all! Probably because he's a freakin' tank again, like in XIII. Robert looks great again.

But something i noticed about Ryo's Ko-ou Ken and Robert's Ryuu-Geki Ken.
(https://i.imgur.com/PyElaXN.png)(https://i.imgur.com/yKVbsXF.png)
Both FX are misaligned, looks like they're coming from under their arms. Also the visual effect of them looks awful.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on May 06, 2021, 05:51:39 pm
Never have I ever wanted to play Robert more than in this game. DAMN SNK.

I don't know. Blue Mary could fit on a lot of different teams than just the Womans team, and if she's in the game, she got to be destined for base game. Being a DLC character twice in a row is a shitty move by anyone, and I believe most game developers know that. However, that does mean previous base game characters "can" make DLC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on May 06, 2021, 05:56:32 pm
Never have I ever wanted to play Robert more than in this game. DAMN SNK.

I don't know. Blue Mary could fit on a lot of different teams than just the Womans team, and if she's in the game, she got to be destined for base game. Being a DLC character twice in a row is a shitty move by anyone, and I believe most game developers know that. However, that does mean previous base game characters "can" make DLC.

Atleast she wont be teaming with Yamazaki and Billy anytime! Wonder if any of guest characters from All Stars will pop up?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 06, 2021, 06:14:07 pm
Still not fond of the musketeer-like facial hair style for Robert
Wrong reference! Check this out

(https://i.imgur.com/a44vrnB.png)

Yes, it is some fitting reference.
Since he wears this musketeer style since the end of the '90 ^^


Also, I hope Blue Mary to have a slight different redesign perhaps based on her RB incarnation...
I didn't liked this much her white sneakers style to match this trend... ^^;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on May 06, 2021, 06:29:07 pm
Blue Mary in her RBS outfit would be nice.

So, it seems that there's an autoguard mechanic to the CD/Blowback attacks now? Or at least a variation that acts like a sort of Focus Attack...
Was actually nice to see Ryo connect with the Kohou after the Shippu, but for me? Robert all the way.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on May 07, 2021, 11:02:12 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0wAMkUVIAIQBgu?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on May 08, 2021, 12:34:33 am
So, it seems that there's an autoguard mechanic to the CD/Blowback attacks now? Or at least a variation that acts like a sort of Focus Attack...

This type of mechanic was in KOF Neowave tho.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on May 08, 2021, 11:42:48 am
This type of mechanic was in KOF Neowave tho.

It was? Must admit, I didn't really get to play Neowave as it never hit the arcades here and I didn't bother with the console port.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on May 09, 2021, 06:20:05 am
It was? Must admit, I didn't really get to play Neowave as it never hit the arcades here and I didn't bother with the console port.

Yep. ;)


It was in one of the three mechanic options, the "Guard Break Mode".
Glad that SNK took something from this underrated KOF.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on May 09, 2021, 10:56:25 pm
I wouldn't say it's underrated. Neowave was SNK throwing  out random ideas especially since it was on Atomiswave and they had an extra 5th button to play with. The only notable thing about it was Young Geese being the final boss.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on May 12, 2021, 05:09:11 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1392298484187992065

First impression tell me it's Leona. One comment says it's Kasumi.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 12, 2021, 07:16:05 am
I think it's Leona.
Her ponytail is too high for it to be Kazumi.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on May 12, 2021, 09:45:28 am
RREOANA HEIDERNUU
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 12, 2021, 01:14:14 pm
100% Leona. Unless SNK makes fun of us... again... ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on May 12, 2021, 02:54:48 pm
apple juice!!!

it's definitely leona but i do hope she will look better than she looked from earlier trailers.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 12, 2021, 03:12:29 pm
apple juice!!!

it's definitely leona but i do hope she will look better than she looked from earlier trailers.

Yes! I hope so!
Also, I still feel like she looks very "fragile" (in KOFXIV and early XV) or something compared to all her other incarnations...
But, yes, people seems to like very  very thin girls with "oversized" boobs.
(just my point of view - perhaps my words are not the best to express it.)

I think Capcom would make a great redesign of Leona if they had the chance to...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 12, 2021, 03:42:23 pm
Please be Kasumi.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on May 12, 2021, 04:09:43 pm
Yes Kasumi just so they make her newly acquired lava summoning abilities canon.

Still not fond of the musketeer-like facial hair style for Robert
Wrong reference! Check this out

(https://i.imgur.com/a44vrnB.png)


Oh shit it's Robert from King of Fighters
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on May 12, 2021, 04:39:04 pm
I'm wishing it's Kasumi too but SNK refuses to put May Lee there and I think they're going for a complete KOF98 roster with the new teams from the last game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on May 12, 2021, 08:47:55 pm
It's either the end of the womans team with Kasumi, or it's the start of Ikari Warriors.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 12, 2021, 09:49:42 pm
I was thinking the hair was way too short to be Kasumi, but I checked the original trailer again that shows Leona, and her hair is actually noticeably longer. Plus this teaser doesn't seem to be wearing those thick gloves Leona has.
Then again they clearly turned everything smooth in that teaser image again so whatever. I'm assuming it's Leona because she was in the trailer but they could reveal this teaser to be Choi and I wouldn't bat an eye at this point.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 12, 2021, 10:45:46 pm
I was thinking the hair was way too short to be Kasumi, but I checked the original trailer again that shows Leona, and her hair is actually noticeably longer. Plus this teaser doesn't seem to be wearing those thick gloves Leona has.
Then again they clearly turned everything smooth in that teaser image again so whatever. I'm assuming it's Leona because she was in the trailer but they could reveal this teaser to be Choi and I wouldn't bat an eye at this point.

So true!

also, the pose really reminds me of Leona. (edit : more specifically I mean)
But yes, no surprise if it's even a totally different character.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 12, 2021, 10:48:18 pm
The pose works for both Leona and Kasumi, so I wouldn't be surprised with either.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Jmorphman on May 13, 2021, 04:08:15 am

I really don't want to continue to be a Debbie Downer here, but all of her supers look legitimately atrocious and it's insanely dispiriting to see that they have not only learned nothing about animating in 3D from XIV, but that they continue to make the exact same mistakes as they keep bringing in older characters/moves.

like for fuck's sake, how do you make the Kamen Rider super happen in the span of a single second... and have her say "sayonara" after the explosion already happened?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on May 13, 2021, 04:21:13 am
So what you're saying is you don't approve of her Supers created from minty fresh mouthwash.

Yea this is totally gonna be on the final product, isn't it
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on May 13, 2021, 04:31:48 am
Leona's nothing special because she's still in her kof xiv outfit
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2021, 04:43:50 am
You can clearly tell that they just imported her XIV movements just like the Mai and the others. Stiff & Bland.
Why won't they reanimate the entire roster like Yashiro, Chris and Shermie?

Heck, they did it before in KOF'96 and those sprites still can hold to today's standards.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nexus Games on May 13, 2021, 05:00:04 am
they could of done so much more for her.....she just looks plain....besides a model over haul, they really did nothing special for her....i don't know if i can get excited anymore for any returning characters from 14...it's just character imports with upgraded visuals
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 13, 2021, 06:52:15 am
You can clearly tell that they just imported her XIV movements just like the Mai and the others. Stiff & Bland.
Why won't they reanimate the entire roster like Yashiro, Chris and Shermie?
Yashiro, Chris and Shermie don't really look that superior to the others, to be completely honest, and I'm pretty sure they use some animations from the mobile game. Also, there is a reason why they're doing this: its cheap. Simple as that, its already done, they just have to import it instead of remaking it. I will say, though, that since they're doing that, I see no reason for them to not bring the entire KoF XIV roster (save for the ones they can't, like, apparently, the girls that teamed up with Nakoruru), which means they should at least try to promote more new stuff. Instead of making one trailer per character, make one trailer per team that is returning from KoF XIV and give solo trailers to the new characters (or characters that haven't been seen in a while).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on May 13, 2021, 07:56:02 am
I don't see that much to rant about here. The distinct lack of hitpause is hella awkward though, like Jmorph said.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 13, 2021, 08:17:53 am
And.... It's Leona.
To be honest, the Kasumi theory was not even an option for me, considering the picture, again, unless they really edited it a lot like shermie CAT-HAND...

You can clearly tell that they just imported her XIV movements just like the Mai and the others. Stiff & Bland.
Why won't they reanimate the entire roster like Yashiro, Chris and Shermie?

Heck, they did it before in KOF'96 and those sprites still can hold to today's standards.

One reply... For saving money and making it faster... -_-
But I feel like you CYS is really a masterpiece when most of the characters present in the previous game still lack of dynamism (sometimes the model is not even that good)

I compare it to Tekken on some points, when in Tekken 3, you can see new characters like Xiaoyu or Hwoarang pretty well animated when old characters still have weird animations from Tekken 1 and Tekken 2... And they kept many of these strange animation until Tekken Tag 2, with a big update of animations. But even in Tekken 7 some animations from Tekken 1 are almost untouched.

@Kolossoni.
You're right, definitely!
I feel Leona very bland, seems like they didn't changed her model so much. This is clearly the character that deserves a redesign. (MY opinion)
I'm not a leona specialist, but I can see her fighting style have not progressed that much since the previous game...

Hope the next character announcement will actually shatter something...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 13, 2021, 09:24:40 am
Yeah... I mean, a lot of people DID expect Chizuru and CYS, so... the expectations aren't exactly shattered.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2021, 09:49:33 am
You can clearly tell that they just imported her XIV movements just like the Mai and the others. Stiff & Bland.
Why won't they reanimate the entire roster like Yashiro, Chris and Shermie?
Yashiro, Chris and Shermie don't really look that superior to the others, to be completely honest, and I'm pretty sure they use some animations from the mobile game. Also, there is a reason why they're doing this: its cheap. Simple as that, its already done, they just have to import it instead of remaking it. I will say, though, that since they're doing that, I see no reason for them to not bring the entire KoF XIV roster (save for the ones they can't, like, apparently, the girls that teamed up with Nakoruru), which means they should at least try to promote more new stuff. Instead of making one trailer per character, make one trailer per team that is returning from KoF XIV and give solo trailers to the new characters (or characters that haven't been seen in a while).

I mean... of course. It's SNK we're talking about here....
My point is, CYS looks at least 2018-ish while Leona still remains in the 2013/14 era.

Also, Yashiro and Chris never had 3D animations done by SNK themselves. The only iterations of them in 3D was done by All Stars which is Netmarble's not SNK's.
Shermie was in Girl Frenzy or smth, but her movements were improved drastically for 15. There's a YT video comparing the two.

My only hope is for them to wake up and smell the 2021 (which is in it's first half already) air.
They sold their rights for more investment and yet they seem so cheap regarding actually spending resources.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on May 13, 2021, 11:26:28 am
Honestly, animations looking reused/cheap makes sense when you think about it. SNK isn't exactly that big of a company especially considering they've been bankrupt twice. It also doesn't do them any favors that their biggest franchises they have are Fighting games. Every other major FG dev has something else to fall back on and can afford nicer animations.
Wouldn't be surprised.if they can't afford to splurge on their big game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on May 13, 2021, 12:45:06 pm
Honestly, animations looking reused/cheap makes sense when you think about it. SNK isn't exactly that big of a company especially considering they've been bankrupt twice. It also doesn't do them any favors that their biggest franchises they have are Fighting games. Every other major FG dev has something else to fall back on and can afford nicer animations.
Wouldn't be surprised.if they can't afford to splurge on their big game.

That's a reasonable statement, lets hope we get a better trailer next week showcasing anything else like the staff take and overview on KOF XV development.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 13, 2021, 01:04:19 pm
I don't see a next dev talk video happening before E3 or late July.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on May 13, 2021, 01:37:21 pm
We all knew it's Leona.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on May 13, 2021, 02:12:28 pm
Welp, all we gotta do is wait for Ralf and Clark (and/or Whip) to come in now.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on May 13, 2021, 02:47:16 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 13, 2021, 03:46:44 pm
You can clearly tell that they just imported her XIV movements just like the Mai and the others. Stiff & Bland.
Why won't they reanimate the entire roster like Yashiro, Chris and Shermie?
Yashiro, Chris and Shermie don't really look that superior to the others, to be completely honest, and I'm pretty sure they use some animations from the mobile game.

Not only that, they also recycled animations from other characters. Just look at Shermie and Chris's climaxes, they're just the climaxes from Vice and Kim from the previous game slightly adapted.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on May 13, 2021, 05:05:02 pm
When we still talk about Kasumi, here is what I would dream for them to do!
Hear me out on this one. Not saying it's in the world ever likely, but it's a dream of something like this to happen.


(https://i.imgur.com/cjVjnVU.png)

Kasumi Todoh is the most likely out of the three to make it as a playable. And she is the most popular of them. She is a great counter character.
Lee Pai Long would serve as the quick and nimble assassin guy with chinese martial arts. (Vega type Claw x 2).
Temjin would be the stubby strong one to round out the cast and create great diversity. It would also give both him and LPL a chance to shine again.

My favourite part about the grouping is that it includes an Art of Fighting character from each game! Lee from AoF 1, Temjin from AoF 2 and Kasumi from AoF 3.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on May 13, 2021, 08:41:47 pm
Please take your dream to the back and shoot it.
Make sure you burn the corpse.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on May 13, 2021, 10:06:21 pm
You can clearly tell that they just imported her XIV movements just like the Mai and the others. Stiff & Bland.
Why won't they reanimate the entire roster like Yashiro, Chris and Shermie?
Yashiro, Chris and Shermie don't really look that superior to the others, to be completely honest, and I'm pretty sure they use some animations from the mobile game.

Not only that, they also recycled animations from other characters. Just look at Shermie and Chris's climaxes, they're just the climaxes from Vice and Kim from the previous game slightly adapted.

as someone whos datamined, extracted and looked at the kofas models and anims


no, they didnt reuse their anims for the new faces team. all of them are new
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Niitris on May 14, 2021, 02:37:20 am
Quote
animation
I wish SNK would tinker with the animations too. They have a plain look to them at times, and the "stylization" has a jarring look in 3d. Majority of the motion libraries were made with KoF XII sprites in mind, where the posing lacks aggression in certain places. They also tween too fast (not SFIV bad but it's there), and you end up losing the distinct key frames for certain attacks and grabs. Choregraphing could use improvement as well.

"Dragon Punch-type" moves are animated really nicely. They have aggressive posing, and the recovery is tweened in a way where you can see the recovery motion. They're some of my favorite moves to look it in 3d kof.

Btw SNK don't do motion capture, all animations are handcrafted.

I compare it to Tekken on some points, when in Tekken 3, you can see new characters like Xiaoyu or Hwoarang pretty well animated when old characters still have weird animations from Tekken 1 and Tekken 2... And they kept many of these strange animation until Tekken Tag 2, with a big update of animations. But even in Tekken 7 some animations from Tekken 1 are almost untouched.
Don't want to digress too much, but Namco knew that those old animations sucked. Tekken 1 and 2 had no motion data (3 was the first game to have it), they use mocap as a guide but everything is done by hand. They changed the ones that were most necessary (Flash Punch Combo is a good example), while keeping vital legacy attacks intact.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on May 14, 2021, 02:45:48 am
of all the characters trailers on kofxv, leona's my least favorite mainly because that's the 2nd time her current attire is still here
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on May 14, 2021, 08:43:01 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1UEXG2VkAQFD-0.jpg)

So her story may revolve around Gaidel this time as a standalone plot.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 14, 2021, 09:00:25 am
Considering he came back to life with Verse's defeat... yeah, I'm very eager to see her story in this one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 14, 2021, 09:28:40 am
Quote
animation
I wish SNK would tinker with the animations too. They have a plain look to them at times, and the "stylization" has a jarring look in 3d. Majority of the motion libraries were made with KoF XII sprites in mind, where the posing lacks aggression in certain places. They also tween too fast (not SFIV bad but it's there), and you end up losing the distinct key frames for certain attacks and grabs. Choregraphing could use improvement as well.

"Dragon Punch-type" moves are animated really nicely. They have aggressive posing, and the recovery is tweened in a way where you can see the recovery motion. They're some of my favorite moves to look it in 3d kof.

Btw SNK don't do motion capture, all animations are handcrafted.

I compare it to Tekken on some points, when in Tekken 3, you can see new characters like Xiaoyu or Hwoarang pretty well animated when old characters still have weird animations from Tekken 1 and Tekken 2... And they kept many of these strange animation until Tekken Tag 2, with a big update of animations. But even in Tekken 7 some animations from Tekken 1 are almost untouched.
Don't want to digress too much, but Namco knew that those old animations sucked. Tekken 1 and 2 had no motion data (3 was the first game to have it), they use mocap as a guide but everything is done by hand. They changed the ones that were most necessary (Flash Punch Combo is a good example), while keeping vital legacy attacks intact.

sure.
To me only the result counts.
Whatever mix up of method they use.
If they can do quality work and always try to improve the previous work = win
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 14, 2021, 03:33:29 pm
Ugh. People still with this Gaidel nonsense?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 14, 2021, 03:35:26 pm
Ugh. People still with this Gaidel nonsense?

How’s it nonsense?

His soul was inside of Verse. Given Ash and Orochi were both revived it’s likely to assume that the other souls inside revived as well. Especially considering Verse split into multiple pieces after his defeat.

Correct me if I’m wrong anyhow.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 14, 2021, 03:44:25 pm
Did SNK say anything official about Gaidel reviving ? Or is that a "everyone was inside Verse and revived so this one random guy will definitely be a part of XV's story" thing ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Troy99 on May 14, 2021, 03:51:34 pm
I really don't want to continue to be a Debbie Downer here, but all of her supers look legitimately atrocious and it's insanely dispiriting to see that they have not only learned nothing about animating in 3D from XIV, but that they continue to make the exact same mistakes as they keep bringing in older characters/moves.

the problem is, they're reusing KOFXIII animations on 3D models. KOFXIII sprites were based on flat color 3D models, it worked for lower framerate animations, but both in XIV and XV they're absolutely ugly. hope they notice this.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on May 14, 2021, 04:13:50 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1UEXG2VkAQFD-0.jpg)

So her story may revolve around Gaidel this time as a standalone plot.

“Essential to the KOF storyline” but has done jackshit since the Orochi saga. Then again nobody has, at least everybody not named Kyo, Iori, K’, Ash, or anybody in their close-knit circle. I thought that XIV would change that but the main plot was pretty much just Shun’ei and I guess some Nakoruru. Kinda sucks that the Samsho character wound up being more important to the story than all of the veterans (except again for that dipshit Kyo). I think we’re all ready to have people like Terry, Ryo, Athena, and the Ikaris finally mean something to the plot.

Or at least a continuation of some of the older plots teased. When the hell are we getting on that dragon spirit plot with Kensou and Ron again? Been waiting like 20 years for that shit to take off, will probably end up waiting 20 more at this rate.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 14, 2021, 04:57:21 pm
Did SNK say anything official about Gaidel reviving ? Or is that a "everyone was inside Verse and revived so this one random guy will definitely be a part of XV's story" thing ?

It’s never been outright confirmed but Verse’s win quotes, coupled with most of not all of the endings in KOF XIV, suggest that all the souls that had been within him have revived. Ash and Orochi were shown having revived and it’s implied Verse himself is still around, albeit in a weaker state.

Maxima also says in one ending that he has readings from multiple energy sources (I believe) that relate to previous KOFs, which supports the possible and likely revival of Rugal, Igniz and Krizallid, all souls that were inside of Verse.

Considering the actual revivals and the implied revivals, I think it’s safe to assume Gaidel has come back as well, since his soul was inside of Verse and it would be weird to revive everyone but him.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 14, 2021, 05:01:40 pm
What you just said only tells me that what's safe to assume is they started from the desire to bring back the popular former characters outside of a dream match, starting with CYS and then surely Rugal, maybe others like Goenitz, and they gave us an explanation for it, but someone like Gaidel being created brand new that we've never even seen and doesn't even have a design is far lower of the list of expectations. You can have a headcanon that Gaidel is now alive again, but him showing up is absolutely not safe to assume.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 14, 2021, 05:56:20 pm
What you just said only tells me that what's safe to assume is they started from the desire to bring back the popular former characters outside of a dream match, starting with CYS and then surely Rugal, maybe others like Goenitz, and they gave us an explanation for it, but someone like Gaidel being created brand new that we've never even seen and doesn't even have a design is far lower of the list of expectations. You can have a headcanon that Gaidel is now alive again, but him showing up is absolutely not safe to assume.

Agree to disagree then. The ending(s) of KOF XV leave a lot of implications and I’m running with ‘em.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on May 14, 2021, 07:58:00 pm
I think we’re all ready to have people like Terry, Ryo, Athena, and the Ikaris finally mean something to the plot.
Not happening. Those guys have only been around out of tradition. They could completely miss a KOF and the plot wouldn't change. Well, the Ikaris could be an exception due to their involvement with K' team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on May 15, 2021, 12:41:20 am
In that trailer, Leona has her "Heart attack" back. I feel that they will show the release date and platforms when they reveal the rest of the roster and features.

(PS4, PS5, and PC are the possible platforms)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on May 15, 2021, 02:33:33 am
I think we’re all ready to have people like Terry, Ryo, Athena, and the Ikaris finally mean something to the plot.
Not happening. Those guys have only been around out of tradition. They could completely miss a KOF and the plot wouldn't change. Well, the Ikaris could be an exception due to their involvement with K' team.

Ironically, Kyo and Iori are going to wind up missing a KOF before them, as they almost did in KOF 99. People love these characters THAT much. Even if it is unlikely to happen, people would enjoy it, I'm pretty sure about that. It would give them some development after 20+ years of being static.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on May 15, 2021, 05:14:31 am
Did SNK say anything official about Gaidel reviving ? Or is that a "everyone was inside Verse and revived so this one random guy will definitely be a part of XV's story" thing ?

In the manga, when Heidern figured out about people reviving, Leona was about to ask and Heidern says "I'm sorry, there's no any information about Gaidel."
I believe that Leona's "very important mission" will be something related to Gaidel.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on May 15, 2021, 06:29:51 am
Is the manga canon to the series?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 15, 2021, 06:49:02 am
Maybe not the manga -- but the Ikari Warriors Team ending in KOF XIV is essentially the same thing.

Heidern confirms a list of (at least) 36 known revived individuals, with no word on Gaidel at the time. Which confirms they're aware of his soul being within Verse, and that it did split from its body when Verse was defeated -- but Gaidel reviving is up in the air.

So, while I'm leaning towards him possibly being alive, it's possible that Leona's story in KOF XV will be searching for the answer to where Gaidel's soul has gone.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 15, 2021, 07:38:20 am
Now I wonder if Mature & Vice will be back this time.

We have CYS coming back with lots of references to Orochi, but with Iori being part of the Sacred Treasures team, I also have my doubts.
I hope they come back. They're super popular and I love their aesthetics.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 15, 2021, 08:01:09 am
I still think they’ll come back to form a team with Rugal.




I know that sounds like wishful thinking/fanfic territory but idc it’s my word and I’m sticking with it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on May 15, 2021, 10:11:35 am
Ironically, Kyo and Iori are going to wind up missing a KOF before them, as they almost did in KOF 99. People love these characters THAT much. Even if it is unlikely to happen, people would enjoy it, I'm pretty sure about that. It would give them some development after 20+ years of being static.
And where are you coming from?
People love Terry, Ryo, Athena, Mai, etc.

It just means they're going to show up in KOF because people will cry if they don't.

Still doesn't mean they will have any relevance to the overall plot.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 15, 2021, 10:39:11 am
Terry and Ryo will be relevant in a new FF / AOF / Garou game before they're relevant in KoF's story.
AKA never.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on May 15, 2021, 05:01:43 pm
Ironically, Kyo and Iori are going to wind up missing a KOF before them, as they almost did in KOF 99. People love these characters THAT much. Even if it is unlikely to happen, people would enjoy it, I'm pretty sure about that. It would give them some development after 20+ years of being static.
And where are you coming from?
People love Terry, Ryo, Athena, Mai, etc.

It just means they're going to show up in KOF because people will cry if they don't.

Still doesn't mean they will have any relevance to the overall plot.

Okay, that’s twice that you’ve not understood my point. How much clearer do I have to be? I’m not saying that they are ever going to have story relevance, but rather that people would love it if they actually did, for once. Doesn’t mean SNK is actually going to try it. I don’t know where in both of my posts you confused me for straight up saying that they’re going to have actual roles in the story this time around. The most I said was that it would be cool and people would love it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 15, 2021, 05:19:54 pm
Ironically, Kyo and Iori are going to wind up missing a KOF before them, as they almost did in KOF 99. People love these characters THAT much. Even if it is unlikely to happen, people would enjoy it, I'm pretty sure about that. It would give them some development after 20+ years of being static.
And where are you coming from?
People love Terry, Ryo, Athena, Mai, etc.

It just means they're going to show up in KOF because people will cry if they don't.

Still doesn't mean they will have any relevance to the overall plot.

Okay, that’s twice that you’ve not understood my point. How much clearer do I have to be? I’m not saying that they are ever going to have story relevance, but rather that people would love it if they actually did, for once. Doesn’t mean SNK is actually going to try it. I don’t know where in both of my posts you confused me for straight up saying that they’re going to have actual roles in the story this time around. The most I said was that it would be cool and people would love it.

Though I understand your point, like what Darkflare said: It ain't going to happen any time soon sadly.

Even though Kyo & Iori are extremely popular, their story arcs have canonically ended in 1997 (with the defeat of Orochi.)
K' ended in 2001 by defeating Igniz and Ash finished his in XIII.
The only factor that is driving them to keep their spots on the roster (except Ash, since he's canonically wiped from history) is their popularity.

Unless Geese comes back for Terry, Mr. Big for Ryo and etc, none of those characters have anything relevant in the current KOF's story line (AKA Shun'ei's).
That's why Team Hero is a thing and every other team's endings are non-canon...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Seadragon77 on May 15, 2021, 05:53:03 pm
Okay, now that Leona is in the game.. when do Ralf and Clark appear?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 15, 2021, 07:13:54 pm
Random prediction that's gonna be wrong again :
third Women Team fighter next week, then the first character of another team (prolly K' to finish the characters that are in the trailer), and then Ralf and Clark together the week after.
Even though Kyo & Iori are extremely popular, their story arcs have canonically ended in 1997 (with the defeat of Orochi.)
I disagree. They were Ash's target when he was stealing the Sacred Treasures (but then the story veered hard left with Saiki to give Ash a reason to be an anti-hero and somehow forgot what was the point of involving the Sacred Treasures, but in 03 and XI they were front and center with Ash as the villain), and in XIV they stopped Orochi's return in a cutscene, leading directly into XV with CYS and the Sacred Treasures reforming. Story-wise they're obviously teaming up to watch over team Orochi, so if something happens, they'll be on the front line again.
They're relevant and present in the story as poster boys of the franchise and people are still after them, although now they have become the macguffin themselves. We'll see if they actually do something in XV and if the Orochi team is also given a real point beside satisfying fan demands.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on May 15, 2021, 08:24:13 pm
Is the manga canon to the series?

According to Oda himself, it's semi-canon. Oda stated that many of the events in the manga will impact for KOF XV.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on May 15, 2021, 10:18:33 pm
Ironically, Kyo and Iori are going to wind up missing a KOF before them, as they almost did in KOF 99. People love these characters THAT much. Even if it is unlikely to happen, people would enjoy it, I'm pretty sure about that. It would give them some development after 20+ years of being static.
And where are you coming from?
People love Terry, Ryo, Athena, Mai, etc.

It just means they're going to show up in KOF because people will cry if they don't.

Still doesn't mean they will have any relevance to the overall plot.

Okay, that’s twice that you’ve not understood my point. How much clearer do I have to be? I’m not saying that they are ever going to have story relevance, but rather that people would love it if they actually did, for once. Doesn’t mean SNK is actually going to try it. I don’t know where in both of my posts you confused me for straight up saying that they’re going to have actual roles in the story this time around. The most I said was that it would be cool and people would love it.
And my point was that you should take that dream of any non KOF-OC character having plot relevance in KOF and shoot it.

I disagree. They were Ash's target when he was stealing the Sacred Treasures (but then the story veered hard left with Saiki to give Ash a reason to be an anti-hero and somehow forgot what was the point of involving the Sacred Treasures, but in 03 and XI they were front and center with Ash as the villain),

I was under the impression that Ash stole the treasures to power himself up to take on Saiki when he inevitably betrayed him.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 15, 2021, 10:52:38 pm
Yeah, that's how it ended, but there was nothing in that power up that had anything to do with the Sacred Treasures. It could have been anything else. In the 03 and XI endings where he steals Chizuru"s and Iori's powers, and promises to come for Kyo next, it looked like the treasures would be actually relevant to what he was doing (especially after 03 made a point of showing what the mirror could do by creating Kusanagi and Maki, more story relevance that got wasted), and then it turns out he just needed a big power source that could have been anything and the Sacred Treasures happened to be there, and then Kyo's Treasure was ignored (did the sword even play a role in the defeat of Saiki ? I don't remember anything beside beating him up). That's why I said they ended up as a simple macguffin.
They even made flameless Iori which was a cool concept (ugly ass moves though beside the new Ya Otome and Yatagarasu) and in XII it looked like it would actually have a lasting effect, but then literally nothing happened and they even wiped Ash out of existence and rewound it all back. It's like they had two and a half cool ideas but couldn't figure out how to make them work together and then just dropped half of it to wrap it up (and that was when they made XII as half of what they wanted then XIII as the full game and they had to finish up everything before shutting down again).
And I'm not even counting the entire team of "those from the past" that were teased with Mukai but then straight up vanished without doing shit because they came up with them but then never actually used them (I think there's a chick who interferes with Magaki or Shion and that's it ? No ?).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on May 15, 2021, 11:38:31 pm
And my point was that you should take that dream of any non KOF-OC character having plot relevance in KOF and shoot it.

Oh, you were just being a dick about it then. Kind of unnecessary to even reply to me in the first place then, could've just left me to my wild dreaming or something, but you do you.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on May 16, 2021, 12:41:18 am
And you my friend, are very welcome.

Yeah, that's how it ended, but there was nothing in that power up that had anything to do with the Sacred Treasures. It could have been anything else. In the 03 and XI endings where he steals Chizuru"s and Iori's powers, and promises to come for Kyo next, it looked like the treasures would be actually relevant to what he was doing (especially after 03 made a point of showing what the mirror could do by creating Kusanagi and Maki, more story relevance that got wasted), and then it turns out he just needed a big power source that could have been anything and the Sacred Treasures happened to be there, and then Kyo's Treasure was ignored (did the sword even play a role in the defeat of Saiki ? I don't remember anything beside beating him up). That's why I said they ended up as a simple macguffin.
They even made flameless Iori which was a cool concept (ugly ass moves though beside the new Ya Otome and Yatagarasu) and in XII it looked like it would actually have a lasting effect, but then literally nothing happened and they even wiped Ash out of existence and rewound it all back. It's like they had two and a half cool ideas but couldn't figure out how to make them work together and then just dropped half of it to wrap it up (and that was when they made XII as half of what they wanted then XIII as the full game and they had to finish up everything before shutting down again).
And I'm not even counting the entire team of "those from the past" that were teased with Mukai but then straight up vanished without doing shit because they came up with them but then never actually used them (I think there's a chick who interferes with Magaki or Shion and that's it ? No ?).

I wouldn't be surprised if they had a story to connect it all better in the beginning but changed it in the end due to the time it took them between game releases (Especially the 5 year gap between XI and XIII). The members of TFTP definitely got shafted in representation since half their grouo was basically "they exist" and that was it.
But if we want to talk about missed potential, there's the dragon power with Kensou and Bao and how Ash Saga completely ignored it and they just remembered "oh yea, that's a thing".
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on May 19, 2021, 04:05:08 am
Raft and Clark?  :juggle:
(https://i.ibb.co/71dbg3R/ralf.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on May 19, 2021, 04:12:14 am
That or Clark is packing that Sieger arm.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on May 19, 2021, 04:29:08 am
It's a hooded Duck King holding a spray-can.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Flowrellik on May 19, 2021, 04:32:21 am
Man you got it all wrong!
This is Geese Howard in Bartender goose mode! (Left side is a drink mixer, right side is a head with a smallish beak)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on May 19, 2021, 03:58:59 pm
Well given the trajectory, Ikari Soldiers are going to rock another KOF! Although right now I would love to see any recent faces (from XIV) popup!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 19, 2021, 04:10:54 pm
What are you guys smoking?

It's a buffed up Alice holding her arm.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 19, 2021, 04:17:13 pm
We all know it can only be Bao...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on May 19, 2021, 04:49:21 pm
Raft and Clark?  :juggle:
(https://i.ibb.co/71dbg3R/ralf.png)

yeah, with both of them wearing dog tags like they did previous game
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 19, 2021, 08:48:35 pm
Really obvious, it's Sora from King of Them Hearts.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 19, 2021, 08:51:39 pm
It's clearly Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on May 20, 2021, 04:13:17 am
 :nuttrox:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 20, 2021, 04:28:10 am
Alright, this is not a cameo status at this point - Metal Slug just got fully and officially integrated into a mainline KOF. :wth:

That whole stage is just... so beautiful :qq:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on May 20, 2021, 04:40:27 am
Bro no seas mamon, a Metal Slug stage? Specifically the opening stage from the best Metal Slug game of all? That's some serious love on the part of SNK. Yes, a million times yes. It's the best looking stage so far, by far.

Ralf and Clark look as expected. The trailer was mostly Clark beating the shit out of Ralf, just like the AOF trailer was mostly Robert beating the shit out of Ryo. Is this going to be a thing from now on?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: HexagoN on May 20, 2021, 04:46:41 am
WOW that Metal Slug stage is freaking beautiful! I love it! I was not expecting that, yes SNK <3 <3
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 20, 2021, 04:51:50 am
METAL SLUG STAGE HOLY SHIT!!!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 20, 2021, 04:57:20 am
Can we acknowledge that this trailer had, like, no sudden jump cuts?

ALSO METAL SLUG STAGE AHHHH.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: no1wammy on May 20, 2021, 05:01:28 am
Is it possible we might get an actual Metal Slug player? Found this quote on Twitter quite interesting:

OG-Man said:
This MAY BE A LONG SHOT but a Metal Slug stage could mean a Team Metal Slug to replace Team Other World. The Team could either be three of the four leads or Marco, Fio and Marspeople because they're in past SNK fighting games. #KOFXV #KOF15

Marspeople was the first Metal Slug character to appear in a fighting game, SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos.

Fio appeared in The King Of Fighters: Maximum Impact II as a secret character.

Marco appeared in Neo Geo Battle Colliseum.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 20, 2021, 06:25:33 am
Well, if a Metal Slug character shows up, its definitely not on their team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 20, 2021, 12:37:36 pm
Not really impressed by their appearance or something, just like for Leona...
Even if I usuallt like Clark. I mean in the more classic KOF versions...

Looks pretty decent.
The good thing is we don't have to wait one more week, we can go on with another character/another team...

Yes, metal slug. Good to see it.
I'm pretty sure it will make some people pretty glad, I'm ok with this stage. Looks fresh.

I think we cannot expect Marco Rossi or something... But It would have been interesting since we saw him in NGBC in the past...
I feel the same for Kisarah or MudMan...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on May 20, 2021, 12:46:13 pm
In the cut NESTS plotline Igniz was gonna go to Mars. This stage confirms that Mars People are canon to KOF. SNK referenced NESTS again in KOFXIV. I'm not saying Verse is aliens... but he's aliens.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on May 20, 2021, 01:02:04 pm
Announcing Team Metal Slug!

(Sound of monkey's paw closing)

It's Metal Slug Attack OCs.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on May 20, 2021, 02:35:14 pm
Interesting that none of the playable characters appear in the background (especially given how cameo heavy the backgrounds are). I wanna put on my tinfoil hat and says that that might be because there might be an actual Metal Slug Team this KOF. Which I would love. (Maybe we can finally get that full fledged Samurai Shodown team too)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on May 20, 2021, 03:37:43 pm
why does ralf get uglier every game
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 20, 2021, 03:43:03 pm
I wouldn't go as far as say that they'd make an entire Metal Slug Team, but a character is a very high possibility. With the Another World Team now having two vacant slots a MS character could easily fit there. OR, they could make it DLC, either works.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on May 20, 2021, 04:08:24 pm
The theme this time is just Okay. The stage was just solid.

I wouldn't go as far as say that they'd make an entire Metal Slug Team, but a character is a very high possibility. With the Another World Team now having two vacant slots a MS character could easily fit there. OR, they could make it DLC, either works.

Well If they do opt for Metal Slug the likely character would be Fio as she has made cameo as an extra Striker (fully playable in KOF 2006). Although Eri can be another blond replacing her if Yuki or Charlotte is not chosen for Another world.
By the way if there is a obsecure SNK game someone played maybe a character from there could be third wheel for the Another world.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on May 20, 2021, 04:09:17 pm
yes a metal slug stage, because metal slug turned 25 this year, so it makes a lot of sense, also ralf is now wearing a white tank top
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 20, 2021, 04:36:04 pm
I also don't expect a full MS team, if there was one this stage would be theirs and the Ikari would get their own stage. I also think one MS character in the other worlds team is possible.

I think Ralf and Clark finally look the way they should. The face Ralf is making at the beginning is weird, but the rest seems fine to me.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on May 20, 2021, 05:14:41 pm
i miss the 2002 UM ralf build/face
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 20, 2021, 05:22:37 pm
Well If they do opt for Metal Slug the likely character would be Fio as she has made cameo as an extra Striker (fully playable in KOF 2006).
Omg, Fio is so awesome in that game...!

But I doubt modern SNK will ever remember that the Maximum Impact games even existed, to be honest. :gonkgoi:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 20, 2021, 05:32:48 pm
I wouldn't be surprised, if there is one thing that would shatter expectations, it's a MI character or a team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: HexagoN on May 20, 2021, 11:19:21 pm
I wouldn't mind a Metal Slug team, I think they are already canon right? Pretty sure they appear in the background in one of the Ikari team ending in some KOF...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on May 21, 2021, 07:18:33 am
The only thing that might be kind of weird is that I imagine a Metal Slug team would be heavily (projectile-)weapon based, which tonally might feel a bit off considering how much the series is currently based on mostly martial arts. I know ranged weapons and guns have already been featured in some movesets but that was always to a limited extend. Unless they just throw the floodgates open entirely by also including more Samsho/Last Blade characters. 

Like others have mentioned I'd also be down with Marco or so just being part of another team, perhaps with Nakoruru and Gai Tendo or so. Though given that Metal Slug is already established/canon to the KoF world the team would no longer be called 'Another World' team then lol.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on May 21, 2021, 12:33:30 pm
Well MS rules out, I dont know what other game (bar pachinko) will potentially make here. There are chances SNK sold some IPs that would make wishlist. I checked the wikia for SNK and I saw Koudelka there, maybe if protagonist is referenced there some point. Though having someone like that in game might be experience shattering and gets the IP interest renewed.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 21, 2021, 03:33:29 pm
I'd actually like to see them reference some of their more forgotten/underrated titles, like Magician Lord or Top Hunter.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on May 21, 2021, 09:08:06 pm
Metal Slug just got fully and officially integrated into a mainline KOF
I know nobody wants my opinion on this, but I hate absolutely everything about it.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 21, 2021, 09:10:28 pm
Metal Slug just got fully and officially integrated into a mainline KOF
I know nobody wants my opinion on this, but I hate absolutely everything about this



You're right. We don't want this. Shut the fuck up








Jk, in reality I think it's neat but I'm indifferent? I mean I don't think the world and story of Metal Slug fit into mainline KOF -- assuming a character does show up I'd prefer it to be some Other World type shit and not like... "oh they've been here the whole time". But I can see, for a variety of reasons, why people would be against this.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mgbenz on May 22, 2021, 10:49:10 am
KOF itself is already a crossover between various SNK franchises. If someone told you back then that characters from Fatal Fury, AOF, Ikari Warriors and Psycho Soldiers would be in the same game together you would find it ridiculous too.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on May 24, 2021, 09:57:00 am
SNK Directors discuss hopes for King of Fighters 15 like wanting the story to be more cool and fun than the last: https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2021/may/22/kof-cool-story/
With the Orochi Team back from the past, it might be interesting to see how the story goes especially with Orochi, Nests and maybe Ash sagas in the mix with the current Shun' Ei saga
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 24, 2021, 10:17:39 am
Hopefully it's more worthwhile than the previous Ash saga...
That arc was a tragedy.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on May 24, 2021, 12:48:48 pm
Hopefully it's more worthwhile than the previous Ash saga...
That arc was a tragedy.

I agree. I did enjoy the Ash saga and in XIII was a good one with Saiki and Ash's sacrifice by saving the world. But now that Ash has been resurrection in XIV, by the power of writing story and money.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on May 24, 2021, 04:35:30 pm
I do believe that they needed a Deus Ex Machina to be able to bring back past fan favorite characters, because those sell games.

Shun'ei, Meitenkun, Alice, Xanadu, Gang Il ... many of these characters were real duds.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on May 24, 2021, 05:57:41 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E14Gff_VoAEa0qd?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on May 24, 2021, 06:05:27 pm
I do believe that they needed a Deus Ex Machina to be able to bring back past fan favorite characters, because those sell games.

Shun'ei, Meitenkun, Alice, Xanadu, Gang Il ... many of these characters were real duds.

Alice could have been a funky new addition, but she's like a parody of the Fatal trio, and not even in a good way. I like Gang Il, but for being Kim's teacher... he could have had more/better/different moves?
The others you mentioned... yeah, not bothered about them personally.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on May 24, 2021, 07:37:15 pm
Cool! That Metal Slug stage is a good addition.

I do believe that they needed a Deus Ex Machina to be able to bring back past fan favorite characters, because those sell games.

Shun'ei, Meitenkun, Alice, Xanadu, Gang Il ... many of these characters were real duds.

I'd be quite suprised if some of these characters like Alice and Xanadu are back in XV.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on May 24, 2021, 07:47:56 pm
Yeah, pachinko waifu Alice isn't going anywhere.

As for Gang Il, I completely forgot what his playstyle is suppose to be.  If he doesn't return, then Luong also won't return unless Jhun Hoon somehow enters as part of Team Kim and she can make up some excuse to come back. 

Xanadu, well, can't blame them for trying something different.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 24, 2021, 08:30:35 pm
I'd be quite suprised if some of these characters like Alice and Xanadu are back in XV.

I think if there's anything that these trailers are showing it's that as much of the work they did in XIV as possible  is getting reused
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 24, 2021, 10:52:24 pm
Which makes sense. Making new assets would take them way more time, time better spent on other things like gameplay and polishing.

Seems people still don't get Xanadu, eh? Still, he is definitely coming back considering his role in the story.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on May 25, 2021, 12:32:11 am
Seems people still don't get Xanadu, eh? Still, he is definitely coming back considering his role in the story.
His role ... in the story?

I literally just checked the Introduction, Ending and Interactions with other character, and other than his "Gone on a psycho trip" schtick he doesn't seem very relevant anyhow, other than an excuse to make 2 Kim Teams because "he stole Kim's disciples". If anything he's an excuse for Gang Il and Luong to exist.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 25, 2021, 12:39:29 am
And for Kim to not team up with the two clowns. Because that team since day 1 of KoF is just.... what.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on May 25, 2021, 12:45:56 am
https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Xanadu/Quotes

It's hinted that he might understand there's something going on with Verse. It still doesn't tell me he's crucial to the plot, and they had to make him EXTRA to lead the other 2 well established villains.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 25, 2021, 02:16:40 am
Seems people still don't get Xanadu, eh? Still, he is definitely coming back considering his role in the story.

Hell, nawww
If Xanadu comes back, Imma reconsider buying the game.
He's absolutely weak gameplay wise, has one of the wackiest designs (not in a good way) and doesn't do too much regarding story wise except allow Chang and Choi to be part of the roster.

Luong's pretty decent, but I doubt she'll be back unless Gang-Il is back (since they're lovers).

Gang-Il is okay-ish since he brought back Dong Hwang & Jae Hoon's movesets (Kim's sons from MOTW) into KOF, but I'll rather see Jhun or even May Lee back instead of him as part of Kim's team. Personally as a Korean, I prefer Tekken's Baek's "TKD mentor" design over Gang-Il's simply because Baek at least looks like a TKD practitioner.

Of course, there's also a possibility of new characters too... But I doubt SNK will ever add younglings into Kim's team since apparently TKD characters can only be middle age and up in KOF.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on May 25, 2021, 02:47:11 am
Seems people still don't get Xanadu, eh? Still, he is definitely coming back considering his role in the story.

Hell, nawww
If Xanadu comes back, Imma reconsider buying the game.
He's absolutely weak gameplay wise, has one of the wackiest designs (not in a good way) and doesn't do too much regarding story wise except allow Chang and Choi to be part of the roster.

Luong's pretty decent, but I doubt she'll be back unless Gang-Il is back (since they're lovers).

Gang-Il is okay-ish since he brought back Dong Hwang & Jae Hoon's movesets (Kim's sons from MOTW) into KOF, but I'll rather see Jhun or even May Lee back instead of him as part of Kim's team. Personally as a Korean, I prefer Tekken's Baek's "TKD mentor" design over Gang-Il's simply because Baek at least looks like a TKD practitioner.

Of course, there's also a possibility of new characters too... But I doubt SNK will ever add younglings into Kim's team since apparently TKD characters can only be middle age and up in KOF.

I'm willing to side with Magma on Xanadu being important, because I think his whole trait of rambling may lead to some unmentioned secrets on Verse. He's definitely not great, but it makes enough sense to me.

I really don't think scrapping Gang-il and Luong for Jhun and May Lee would be a good idea. I don't mind Jhun coming back, but I do think that they really wouldn't like to recall May Lee, especially since she was created by Eolith to be a "Korean Athena" with a bunch of tokusatsu references. Having them form a team with Kim would just be nonsensical and pander-ey... at least to me.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 25, 2021, 03:03:27 am
I'm willing to side with Magma on Xanadu being important, because I think his whole trait of rambling may lead to some unmentioned secrets on Verse. He's definitely not great, but it makes enough sense to me.

I really don't think scrapping Gang-il and Luong for Jhun and May Lee would be a good idea. I don't mind Jhun coming back, but I do think that they really wouldn't like to recall May Lee, especially since she was created by Eolith to be a "Korean Athena" with a bunch of tokusatsu references. Having them form a team with Kim would just be nonsensical and pander-ey... at least to me.

The remnants of Eolith's influence on KOF is still around regardless of how they are interpreted. (FYI: Eolith is now called "Neolith" and is a phone game company in 2021)
The creation of Igniz was also heavily affected by their request for making an "old but pretty" boss character and yet he's still referenced by Verse.

I'm not saying May Lee should be a must, but what I AM saying is that SNK likes to only put older characters for Kim's team and we barely get any young people so since May Lee has already been introduced to the series (with Chae Lim being sent to the depths of oblivion), I'd prefer SNK to put her in instead of Gang-Il or Luong.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: cupcakkemama on May 25, 2021, 03:14:08 am
TaeKwonDo characters have always been top tier characters in KOF, so I'd keep my eyes on potential candidates. While I agree on seeing less XIV characters as much as possible, I find May Lee kind of bland. Jhun Hoon is pretty cool, but I bet he is too difficult to animate/balance. I think Luong should have her own separate team without Gang-Il, while Kim gets to have new teammates.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 25, 2021, 03:28:34 am
TaeKwonDo characters have always been top tier characters in KOF, so I'd keep my eyes on potential candidates. While I agree on seeing less XIV characters as much as possible, I find May Lee kind of bland. Jhun Hoon is pretty cool, but I bet he is too difficult to animate/balance. I think Luong should have her own separate team without Gang-Il, while Kim gets to have new teammates.

You seem to forget that XIV was an experimental take on the franchise just like XII.

SNK does it all the time when they're changing their graphics (XII [SD sprites -> HD sprite] & XIV [2D -> 3D]) and they try out everything they can to find the optimal direction for their future projects. That's why we see the craziest looking designs & re-designs during those eras.

XIV's Meitenkun, Bandeiras, Sylvie, Xanadu, Kukri, Najd all look crazy compared to XV's Chizuru, Yashiro & Shermie cuz they were the unfortunate outcomes of SNK's amibitious takes on "relevant" designs back in 2016.

May Lee's design is tame, less explosive and unique in that aspect, regardless of her design's inception and thus will make a better addition to Kim's roster than Gang-Il or Luong.

Just my opinion though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on May 25, 2021, 03:37:10 pm
imagine disliking xanadu, the absolute GOAT
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 25, 2021, 06:25:14 pm
More like goat-eyed
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on May 26, 2021, 04:04:25 am
Blue mary?  :smash:
(https://i.ibb.co/pQYb8FF/blue.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DarkWolf13 on May 26, 2021, 04:23:58 am
Angel maybe? Also... I flipped out when I saw that MS stage. MS has been my favorite SNK series ever since I bought the anthology for the Wii. If they do ever bring a Metal Slug team for the game, I'd say Marco (The face of MS), Tarma (He's been in the original MS), and Fio (She was a secret fighter in one of the KOF games). I wouldn't be surprised if Mars People was considered since that alien was a fighter for 2 games (SvC: Chaos & NGBC)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: jafar on May 26, 2021, 04:38:41 am
Kula maybe, since K is already confirmed in the game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on May 26, 2021, 04:48:26 am
Blue Mary in her Real Bout jacket would be unexpected and can complete the Women's team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 26, 2021, 05:21:17 am
My bets are on Whip or Angel.  The head and hairline look too... "thin" to be Kula's to me. I dunno how to put it really. Just doesn't look like the shape of Kula's head.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on May 26, 2021, 06:29:28 am
Could also be Najd
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 26, 2021, 06:56:48 am
Whip or perhaps Najd.

I don't think it can be Mary or Angel... Unless they reall edited the shape a lot!!!!
I will not expect too much.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on May 26, 2021, 12:42:26 pm
Blue mary?  :smash:
(https://i.ibb.co/pQYb8FF/blue.png)
Just saying
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 26, 2021, 01:04:00 pm
Haha! Yes, the usual Bao theory!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on May 26, 2021, 02:22:50 pm
Just realized that it can also be Athena in her usual redesign.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 27, 2021, 04:00:51 am


Well.

Cool!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on May 27, 2021, 04:04:18 am
[youtube]https://youtu.be/HkMYPJo4lfA[/youtube]

Well.

Cool!

yes she looks really cool
(https://i.ibb.co/82dBhsx/kof.png)
kof94.xD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: senorfro on May 27, 2021, 04:22:29 am
Leona gets abs, but not Mary?  Shame.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on May 27, 2021, 04:37:24 am
At what point did Blue Mary learned how to do a Ressenha?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 27, 2021, 04:40:40 am
No Womens team, so we'll get Agents team back?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 27, 2021, 04:53:01 am
I wouldn't mind seeing '97 Special team come back. Mary / Yamazaki /Billy.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 27, 2021, 04:57:07 am
Huh... another classic character.

I guess SNK's not willing to bring back a lot of the XIV newcomers like Team South America and Another World Team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 27, 2021, 08:38:31 am
She looks ok, gameplay wise.

But again, I have this feeling they got lazy, bringing again this stan smith/sporty variation of her classic costume.

For Mary, my expectations were to bring her Real Bout 2 costume with jacket, boots etc.
Sure they shattered it, in a bad way.

Also, I feel like she looks freaking fragile... she will look like a kid compared to Mai, Leona and Shermie... -_-
(Just my point of view)

OK, next, I hope for more...
At least this freaking "weakling" silhouette was not Angel. ^^;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 27, 2021, 08:59:59 am
I've seen quite a few Angel comments around and I can't tell if they're serious or if it's a joke on her boob size lol

Blue Mary's super looks super weak so I don't really like that. But I welcome her back into the canon anyhow.

Now can they stop with this one-character-every-week shit? It's so tedious.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on May 27, 2021, 09:58:13 am
97 special team, agent team from xi might be back or maybe a new mary team  :mlol:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on May 27, 2021, 10:03:37 am
Blue Mary at last. Last time I saw her, she was the last DLC character to be confirmed in the last KOF game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on May 27, 2021, 10:23:51 am
Small thing I noticed is that they (at least up untill now) don't seem to have any nationality and/or country-themed teams yet (like Team Mexico, Team Japan, Team China or South America Team). I wonder if that is something they are going to drop out of the title entirely.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PeXXeR on May 27, 2021, 01:00:48 pm
Love the fact Mary is making it in from the get go. Love the face, the rack is dumb and the VA aint good too.
But she looks a lot like XIV which I am fine with.

Tha VA just does not have that sass the original VA had and her lines sound flat to me.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on May 27, 2021, 03:30:33 pm
her old VA likely cant do the really high pitched voice she did for Mary anymore.

shes still good as King but you can really tell that she has to reach for that voice nowadays, she doesnt sound like she used to.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 27, 2021, 03:42:37 pm
97 team will never happen ever again, that was basically done over a popularity poll and they used the flimsiest excuse to have those three together (basically Mary joining them to investigate them under orders from some "mysterious contractor").
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on May 27, 2021, 04:15:33 pm
Huh... another classic character.

I guess SNK's not willing to bring back a lot of the XIV newcomers like Team South America and Another World Team.
They couldn't bring back the Another World team even if they wanted to, I don't think.

South America will probably be back though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PeXXeR on May 27, 2021, 11:01:41 pm
her old VA likely cant do the really high pitched voice she did for Mary anymore.

shes still good as King but you can really tell that she has to reach for that voice nowadays, she doesnt sound like she used to.

If the internet is correct she is 51 currently, you got me there though, I though even in XIV it was a different VA but it turnes out its the classic one.
Well, if that is the case, we cant do anything about it but be happy that she is still at least voicing king.
She even sang Blue mary's  blues back in the day, however I kinda think its more of a director thing than an issue with her voice.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on May 27, 2021, 11:08:58 pm
Probably is a director thing since Harumi Ikoma still doing great as King throughout the whole KOF series.

About Blue Mary, all skills and stuff are from KOF XIV, no big surprise. Just her model that looks indeed better now.
Still no Women Fighters Team tho. At first, i thought the '97 Special Team will return because they put their theme on KOF 2002 UM in Mary's trailer but probably will be a new Agent Team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PeXXeR on May 27, 2021, 11:22:11 pm
I agree also her name is right on the fucking title card when when the XV trailer starts, dunno how I missed it.
Ned also has a point, I really hope they have an extensive alternate costume system like SFV and bring this look back.
(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters/bluemary-realbout2-stance.gif)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on May 28, 2021, 04:24:12 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2cJlFQUYAAHOMM?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on May 28, 2021, 07:45:28 am
Crackpot theory but what if she joins forces with like Rock Howard and Alice as a sort of a substitute Terry-mentor role.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on May 28, 2021, 07:49:17 am
Additional crackpot theory.

Alba / Fio / Rock. Team Maximum Impact.

Does it make sense? In a reaching way, yes. Do I expect it? No.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on May 28, 2021, 08:18:58 am
Crackpot theory but what if she joins forces with like Rock Howard and Alice as a sort of a substitute Terry-mentor role.

She's waiting for Kula, so that she and Mai can join her to make the Anti-Terry Team like it says on that Twitter meme.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on May 28, 2021, 11:15:52 am
Additional crackpot theory.

Alba / Fio / Rock. Team Maximum Impact.

Does it make sense? In a reaching way, yes. Do I expect it? No.

A more accurate MI team would be Alba, Lien and Luise, IMHO, since Fio comes from MS, and Rock from Garou.

I agree also her name is right on the fucking title card when when the XV trailer starts, dunno how I missed it.
Ned also has a point, I really hope they have an extensive alternate costume system like SFV and bring this look back.
(https://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters/bluemary-realbout2-stance.gif)

Totally this.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on May 28, 2021, 03:28:28 pm
THe artwork actually looked good.
Just like the previous ones usually looked better than the actual ingame character...

and yes, her RB style <3
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on June 02, 2021, 05:44:50 am
Game's release was pushed to Q1 2022.

https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1399908628815962113
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on June 02, 2021, 05:59:24 am
Well I can't say I'm surprised...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on June 02, 2021, 06:14:08 am
Anything to remove orange juice FX out of this reality.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 02, 2021, 06:52:54 am
Welp, what a shame.
Japan should control its COVID outbreak more seriously cuz it's affecting even corporate businesses now.

Props to the devs for striving through though. It's not easy working in a pandemic.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on June 02, 2021, 11:28:13 am
The next character's trailer will be shown on the 9th of June: https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1399999229532282880
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on June 02, 2021, 12:50:17 pm
Welp, what a shame.
Japan should control its COVID outbreak more seriously cuz it's affecting even corporate businesses now.

Props to the devs for striving through though. It's not easy working in a pandemic.

Considering the end product are always good, I do commend the the devs to make of best what is stacked against them.

The next character's trailer will be shown on the 9th of June: https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1399999229532282880

I hope it's someone from XIV now. We got plenty of nostalgia pops so a confirmation from any recent characters will be nice for a change.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on June 02, 2021, 01:25:33 pm
At that time SNK might be able to use Unreal Engine 5 at that time. I see this delay as a positive and it will improve the game a whole lot better.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on June 02, 2021, 01:52:32 pm
I'm not ever surprised.
Well...

Take this time to make the game even better.
I prefer it than a rush of the game with bad quality.
We have the proof they can work well. (on a bunch of the revealed characters)

Also, it would have been a problem to continue announcing 1 charcter / a week if they want tto release it in 2021.

I will really hate them if even with the delay of 2022 they realease an "unfinished" "unpolished" KOF.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on June 02, 2021, 04:36:45 pm
Pushed over to later release.
Oh well, more developing means more characters of default. Take that, VF5 Rehash Online.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 02, 2021, 07:54:09 pm
Okay, so... how many trailers will we see until then? The roster will likely be massive.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on June 03, 2021, 01:22:02 am
I'm expecting around 50+ characters at launch.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on June 09, 2021, 04:34:52 am
https://mobile.twitter.com/snkpofficial/status/1402445343388798977?s=21

I'm guessing Luong for this one and she completes Women Fighters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 09, 2021, 07:59:00 am
Oh yeah. I kinda see Luong too. She has that flower petal tiara thing she wears.

It's definitely a female.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on June 09, 2021, 08:11:37 am
So unless Luong is the new addition to the women's team, it is gonna be interesting how she will tease Mr Taekwondo Kim along with Gang-Il. But if she is with Mai and Yuri then Kim can have Chang and Choi back again!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on June 09, 2021, 01:07:50 pm
Strange choice for teams but it can be interesting, yes...

To me, it's definitely Luong, unless SNK make fun of us again... ^^

I hope they will not drop the glamour gimmick of Luong and the daring/sexy moves... Since Shermie take care of that now...

ooof... the wait was long
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on June 09, 2021, 02:04:20 pm
Probably Luong, yes. Could be Hinako too however.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Diek Stiekem on June 09, 2021, 02:30:13 pm
Luong or maybe B.Jenet
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on June 10, 2021, 01:51:41 am
https://twitter.com/taurencebell/status/1402732999112761348?s=19 (https://twitter.com/taurencebell/status/1402732999112761348?s=19)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3eC1NnVcAIFJE_?format=jpg&name=large)

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 10, 2021, 04:03:23 am
Not the biggest fan of Luong but it's cool that she's back I guess. Probably on Kim's team again.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on June 10, 2021, 04:19:06 am
Or Chang and Choi want to go back to Kim away from Xanadu.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on June 10, 2021, 04:34:07 am
Seriously, what is taking them so long to reveal the last member of Women's Fighters?

Now that she's back, Gang-Il isn't far behind.  I can't wait if they finally decide to give Kim's pants the animation it desperately needs.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 10, 2021, 06:17:41 am
Well there goes my wish for Jhun or May Lee reappearing.

That aside, Luong seems to not receive much redesign from her XIV counterpart.
I wish she wore a reformed ao dai or smth we saw from Kim's ending cuz you know... she's Vietnamese and all.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on June 10, 2021, 07:14:30 am
YESSSS !! It was Luong! It could not be someone else.

Also, her design is pretty much the same but seems like she have the quality and details of the few good designed ones in KOFXV.

Seems like they didn't touch up anything about her gameplay.
Even her Climax "Ben" seems to be exactly the same.
I was a bit worried they went for something less "risqué" (because 2021...)

Nothing bad to say about her, she looks good. Even If I had hopes for a little improvement/variation about:
-specials
-Climax
-overall appearance

Interesting that they show some interaction with Shermie... Of course, Luong is not the "only one" now, since Shermie is back...

Also, WTF with the win pose... ^^;

I'm not really fa of May Lee, but Jhun return would be so awesome!!!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 10, 2021, 07:52:57 am
Seriously, what is taking them so long to reveal the last member of Women's Fighters?

I'm expecting a wild card pick at this point
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on June 10, 2021, 09:22:52 am
Keep in mind, this is now four incomplete teams we have: K' Team, Women's Team, Blue Mary Team and now Korea Team. We pretty much know the composition of two of them, K' and Korea, but jeez man...I have no problem with the character whatsoever, but the last person on the Women's Team better not be the exact same Alice from XIV, and K' himself better not be the exact same either. There's no other real reason for their reveals to have taken this long.

Luong looks as good as ever, I'd say. Not much to say about her, really.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on June 10, 2021, 10:42:26 am
I would normally say they're waiting to reveal the complete Women's team because it's a new character / old returning unexpected character, but we all know it's going to be Alice.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on June 10, 2021, 10:43:45 am
Next week we can see someone from South America, Another World or Mexico to be revealed.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on June 10, 2021, 10:55:52 am
Next week we can see someone from South America, Another World or Mexico to be revealed.

There are also rumors of a team in the Middle East as well.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on June 10, 2021, 02:58:25 pm
I'm actually glad to see Luong. We have had far too many old characters and quite few from 14, so at least they seem to want to keep some from 14, which is a good thing. I love classic characters, and the idea of old characters make debut in KoF, but I was starting to get afraid for the last game's newcomers. One thing that's for sure is that it seems like there will be very few newcomers in general.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 10, 2021, 06:10:52 pm
I'm worried Xanadu might make a return now...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on June 10, 2021, 06:22:05 pm
What is there to be worried about? Just don't play him if he gets in.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on June 10, 2021, 10:36:27 pm
Its pretty much a given. As of their endings in XIV Chang and Choi are still stuck with Xanadu, in tge same way Kim is still stuck with Gang-Il and Luong.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 11, 2021, 05:01:35 am
What is there to be worried about? Just don't play him if he gets in.

That he takes a precious slot in the roster when another character could fill that spot.
Also, I find him weird overall. Weak gameplay, wonky design and confusing narrative. He just looks too Street Fighter-ish and I don't like that. Leave all the cartoony stuff to Capcom.

I get that he's a villain character and all, but KOF series had stylish antagonists like the New Face Team, Botan, Shion, Ron and etc. Xanadu.... not so much.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 11, 2021, 06:53:15 am
Nobody's stealing slots

They're repurposing all the work they did with the last game to ensure this one has a huge roster which means if your character didn't make it in they weren't ever gonna make it I'm afraid
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ShiroTori on June 11, 2021, 06:57:52 am
I'm down for Xanadu to return, y'all naysayers are just weird.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 11, 2021, 01:03:26 pm
Nobody's stealing slots

They're repurposing all the work they did with the last game to ensure this one has a huge roster which means if your character didn't make it in they weren't ever gonna make it I'm afraid

Knowing SNK and their financial status, I guess you're right...

I'm just not so fond of him as a character in general... I think he should've been a completely different design than his bulgy eyed fur coated dude.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on June 11, 2021, 03:29:34 pm
What is there to be worried about? Just don't play him if he gets in.

That he takes a precious slot in the roster when another character could fill that spot.
Also, I find him weird overall. Weak gameplay, wonky design and confusing narrative. He just looks too Street Fighter-ish and I don't like that. Leave all the cartoony stuff to Capcom.

I get that he's a villain character and all, but KOF series had stylish antagonists like the New Face Team, Botan, Shion, Ron and etc. Xanadu.... not so much.

Well, I understand if you're not a fan of his design. He's not for everyone, but the "taking up a slot" thing is nonsense. Kim is for sure already in the game and he was in XIV too. Xanadu isn't taking anybody's "slot." Especially in the era of fighting games where DLC is a thing.

Xanadu is cool as fuck to me personally
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on June 11, 2021, 04:21:27 pm
Out of all KOF 14 newcomers Xanadu was probably the one who stood the most out, and the one I'm most excited to see return. Luong was one of them, same with Smokey (Antonov). If all of them make it I get my faves from KOF 14.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on June 11, 2021, 04:38:02 pm
yes he´s design was pretty cool in concept art but the kof xiv graphics didn't help it properly
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on June 11, 2021, 05:26:43 pm
Luong is kinda meh, Xanadu is... ok. I would be happy to see Dinosaur or Sylvie, actually.


Ay yo, quick little theory:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on June 11, 2021, 08:41:07 pm
Luong is kinda meh, Xanadu is... ok. I would be happy to see Dinosaur or Sylvie, actually.


Ay yo, quick little theory:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Thats cool Theory you got there, I saw Maximallian Dood's reaction on Luong's reveal and he guessed Sylvie possibly being there next week, I mean Yeah anything goes...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on June 11, 2021, 11:34:24 pm
sylvie isn't that bad play style wise she's cool and i do love the idea of sylvie being teamed up with angel and other former nests crew.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on June 14, 2021, 05:22:35 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3zslQpUYAUyHNS?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on June 14, 2021, 05:55:26 am
sylvie isn't that bad play style wise she's cool and i do love the idea of sylvie being teamed up with angel and other former nests crew.

who would be the third on a sylvie/angel team? couldn't see diana or foxy not being on a team with kula, so i'd guess candy or even nameless. or just someone new, tho i'd doubt they'd come up with another NESTS remnant again after sylvie.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on June 14, 2021, 06:55:14 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3zslQpUYAUyHNS?format=jpg&name=large)

For the 1st time, perhaps, I prefer the ingame model than the artwork.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 14, 2021, 01:19:17 pm
I always theorized that Luong might be a villainess in disguise, but putting on a caring face.

She's very mysterious and it's weird she was ever added into the roster in the first place despite only being "Kim's master's GF".
Her origin is unknown, her fighting style is unknown and her motivations to fight in the tournament only because her BF wants to fight is kind of weird and uncalled for.

I think she has an agenda and she may reveal herself to be an evil person in the end. We never had those kind of characters in KOF before.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on June 14, 2021, 01:41:35 pm
Don't forget that Kim can canonically sense evil. If she had bad intentions I think he would've picked up on it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 14, 2021, 03:31:33 pm
Good point, but I think Kim's "sense of justice" is a bit subjective. He doesn't sense evil with Chang and Choi when they turned evil again.
I'd like to think that Kim's interactions with Luong is a shallow one and unless she discloses more of her true intentions/colors, we'll never really know what's up with her motifs.

Kukri looks evil, but we find out he's working for Elizabeth as a good guy.
I wish Luong was the opposite, but that may be a bit too cliche hahaha.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PeXXeR on June 14, 2021, 03:42:32 pm
Tbh, kinda tired seeing chars from XIV, give me something to get excited about, though I do want Rock to come back.
Who cares about lore bring back fucking Omega Rugal or somethig ffs, I could give two shits about Yuri and the like.

At least we got Shermie,Yashiro etc.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on June 14, 2021, 04:34:35 pm
its funny to see every thursday a new character until next year hehehe

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3zslQpUYAUyHNS?format=jpg&name=large)

For the 1st time, perhaps, I prefer the ingame model than the artwork.

she looks older in this picture than the game ooh yeah she has to get the biggest bubies in the game.xD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on June 14, 2021, 06:54:32 pm
Gang-Il and Luong were definitely created to put a bit more irony and some comedy in Kim's role. He's all about justice and reforming criminals, and it turns out his master is a sleazebag that almost looks like a lazy drunk (but apparently super skilled) hitching himself up with some weirdo he met an hour ago just because she had big fat honkers, they're clearly dubious people - not villains, no, but the kind of sadist that doesn't care about petty things like law or justice and make fun of Kim's justice, like parents waiting for their kid to come out of "that phase". They're the opposite of Chang and Choi to Kim. I'm 100% certain that both of their characters go not a single step further than that, and that's completely fine with me. I like them.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 14, 2021, 08:10:26 pm
Gang-Il and Luong were definitely created to put a bit more irony and some comedy in Kim's role. He's all about justice and reforming criminals, and it turns out his master is a sleazebag that almost looks like a lazy drunk (but apparently super skilled) hitching himself up with some weirdo he met an hour ago just because she had big fat honkers, they're clearly dubious people - not villains, no, but the kind of sadist that doesn't care about petty things like law or justice and make fun of Kim's justice, like parents waiting for their kid to come out of "that phase". They're the opposite of Chang and Choi to Kim. I'm 100% certain that both of their characters go not a single step further than that, and that's completely fine with me. I like them.

I would like to agree, but Luong's profile literally says: "Luong is a “femme fatal” type woman fighter with mysterious motivations."

I think it alludes to smth more than her being just Kim's master's lover.
She only met Gang-Il recently. She clearly doesn't share Kim's morals. She has no personal gain in helping Kim or Gang-Il. I think she's really cooking up smth.

Hopefully KOF 15 brings more lore to the table than what's currently on offer.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on June 14, 2021, 08:52:10 pm
nahhh, more likely they are just there to act as a comedic foil to kim

theyve been dropping these open ended tidbits for a long time, but as far as kof goes they never develop characters that aren't the explicit main focus of the arc. bao is a good example. nelson's arm is another good one- though it does get developed in the manga.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 14, 2021, 09:14:38 pm
In 26+ years of games only about 10% of the cast of KoF has gotten any kind of character development so yup, I'm with y'all saying that there's nothing more to Luong.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on June 15, 2021, 12:34:12 am
She only met Gang-Il recently. She clearly doesn't share Kim's morals. She has no personal gain in helping Kim or Gang-Il.
That's the joke. Gang-Il picked her up on a whim because boobs and she turns out to be super shady, that's what's funny. The "mysterious motivations" is just a throwaway line.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on June 15, 2021, 06:27:50 am
I always theorized that Luong might be a villainess in disguise, but putting on a caring face.

She's very mysterious and it's weird she was ever added into the roster in the first place despite only being "Kim's master's GF".
Her origin is unknown, her fighting style is unknown and her motivations to fight in the tournament only because her BF wants to fight is kind of weird and uncalled for.

I think she has an agenda and she may reveal herself to be an evil person in the end. We never had those kind of characters in KOF before.

orochi luong confirmed?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 15, 2021, 08:04:16 am
lol lol lol.
When did KOF's lore become such a joke to the KOF community hahaha
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on June 15, 2021, 09:25:58 am
At least with Bao, the dragon arc, the Hizoku, Those From The Past... and before that, the fanbase turning everyone into an Orochi xyz character.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on June 15, 2021, 09:50:45 am
I always theorized that Luong might be a villainess in disguise, but putting on a caring face.

She's very mysterious and it's weird she was ever added into the roster in the first place despite only being "Kim's master's GF".
Her origin is unknown, her fighting style is unknown and her motivations to fight in the tournament only because her BF wants to fight is kind of weird and uncalled for.

I think she has an agenda and she may reveal herself to be an evil person in the end. We never had those kind of characters in KOF before.

orochi luong confirmed?

Well she interacted with Shermie, though you could say given that she interacted before in SNK Gal Tag Team Frenzy. There might be a chance that they know from the... but I think speculation should be reserved after the game.
PLUS...we can MUGENIZE her once there is full 2d version available...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on June 15, 2021, 03:14:03 pm
KOF lore is treated as a joke by SNK themselves

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on June 16, 2021, 04:08:32 am
No trailer this week: https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1404982058024259589
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on June 16, 2021, 04:22:06 am
Why tho
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on June 16, 2021, 05:36:15 pm
I'm fed up...
ok, make a trailer every other week and release the game somwhere in 2024-2025...

More seriously. They certainly have a good reason to do it.
Still, I prefer them to take their time to make the game good... -_-
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on June 16, 2021, 06:54:31 pm
They have tons of trailers prepared in advance, since the Luong trailer had been up and unlisted for at least 2 weeks before they made it public. I dunno why they're waiting so much
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on June 16, 2021, 07:17:35 pm
since the Luong trailer had been up and unlisted for at least 2 weeks before they made it public.
What do you mean ? It's dated June 10.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on June 16, 2021, 07:47:04 pm
since the Luong trailer had been up and unlisted for at least 2 weeks before they made it public.
What do you mean ? It's dated June 10.

When they first put the trailer up it actually came up early -- and the date was listed as two weeks prior. The video quickly went unlisted and it got taken down before it went back up. It happened really fast and I found it really weird. But yeah, the video was uploaded and left unlisted, two weeks prior to the reveal
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on June 16, 2021, 07:55:56 pm
They have tons of trailers prepared in advance, since the Luong trailer had been up and unlisted for at least 2 weeks before they made it public. I dunno why they're waiting so much

the world isnt ready for the return of kim's pants.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on June 22, 2021, 07:05:45 pm
damn, the wait is long...
Yes, perhaps Kim will have his turn now?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 23, 2021, 05:09:55 am
They have tons of trailers prepared in advance, since the Luong trailer had been up and unlisted for at least 2 weeks before they made it public. I dunno why they're waiting so much

the world isnt ready for the return of kim's pants.

I agree, he should go without pants, then.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on June 23, 2021, 05:16:33 am
They have tons of trailers prepared in advance, since the Luong trailer had been up and unlisted for at least 2 weeks before they made it public. I dunno why they're waiting so much

the world isnt ready for the return of kim's pants.

I agree, he should go without pants, then.

Agreed, why keep the pants Kaphwon when you can just take them Kaphwoff.






Anyways before I die inside I hope we don't get another last minute trailer delay
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on June 23, 2021, 05:23:21 am
https://mobile.twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1407518771493818370/photo/1

Kim and his expensive legwear will have to wait another day it seems.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on June 23, 2021, 06:31:49 am
Instant pic:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4hxE9PVIAcKsUr?format=jpg&name=large)
Either Vanessa or Zarina. The hair shape hints at the latter.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 23, 2021, 06:57:23 am
It looks like curly hair, did Zarina have curly hair in XIV?

Or is it that stupid pet toucan on her shoulder.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on June 23, 2021, 10:28:56 am
It's Alcina Dimitrescu, look at that hat!

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on June 23, 2021, 01:14:26 pm
It definitely looks like Vanessa... unless SNK still plays some tricks on us...

I would not even be surprised if this silhouette is Chang or  Ramon... (just kidding)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DatKofGuy on June 23, 2021, 02:14:30 pm
Ya'll wrong, its the guest char Laura
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431876683465752587/857187883714215956/lar.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on June 23, 2021, 02:34:54 pm
Ya'll wrong, its the guest char Laura
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431876683465752587/857187883714215956/lar.png)

Oh.....That would be even more hilarious if it is actually confirmed
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on June 23, 2021, 07:52:00 pm
(https://imgur.com/KVeZd74.png)

Shatter my expectations, SNK.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on June 23, 2021, 08:04:15 pm
(https://imgur.com/KVeZd74.png)

Shatter my expectations, SNK.

Outside of Kasumi, SNK don't recognize this game to ever have existed it seems.
However, IF Lenny would happen, then would we get Whip?

AND, uhm ... Thinking of Lenny's deisgn. What if there was some weird SNK shattering our full expectation adding her on a team with Jack Turner?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on June 24, 2021, 03:02:38 am
(https://i.imgur.com/TaOX93Q.png)
who knows
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on June 24, 2021, 04:04:18 am


I wanna say RIP Gang-Il but there's still a slim chance for Kim to team up with him and bring Jhun or May Lee on board.

Vanessa is great but still can't get use to her XIV attire.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on June 24, 2021, 04:26:55 am
I am surprise that luong has become an agent too  :mwhoa:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on June 24, 2021, 04:58:34 am
I think she has an agenda

Sir your comment is aging like fine wine right now

I mean so far it's looking unlikely that she's evil unless Blue Mary and Vanessa go evil but, fuck, she does have an agenda

EDIT: Can we talk about how SNK has yet to give us Team Women Fighters but they've just given us a team of women fighters


Wut
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 24, 2021, 05:18:35 am
lol, even I'm surprised right now. That was just a far fetched head canon and now it's semi-official.

The only reason why I think this team works is because Vanessa and Luong are both from unknown origins and much of their backgrounds are in mystery.
I hope we see more of them and their stories unfold in XV.

Now, I'm wondering who'd be in Kim's team now...
It might be Kim + Gang Il + Jhun.

Kim and Jhun are from the same Dojo and since Gang-Il is Kim's official master, it'll be the same for Jhun too. I also doubt SNK would not recycle Gang-Il's animations, so I think he's definitely in XV.

edit: It might be Chang + Choi again though. lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on June 24, 2021, 06:00:11 am
Arms are too thick and I can get over some redesigns outside of the striped leggings which are too much of a sore thumb for me.

I'm not too mindful about what Kim's new team will be, but Gang-Il doesn't click with me.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Sean Altly on June 24, 2021, 06:47:05 am
Vanessa is one of my favorite KOF characters but I hate those damn pants. Was really hoping they'd switch them back. Was there ever a storyline reason for her randomly switching to those pants and sandals?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on June 24, 2021, 08:04:16 am
Arms are too thick and I can get over some redesigns outside of the striped leggings which are too much of a sore thumb for me.

Same here... And I don't think they will do anything to fix it.
I really don't like these pants, reminds me some old grand mother clothes in the 70' in south of France... (from my point of view)

Hopefully some good mods gould giver back her "Classic" design style...

Also, the interesting thing about Vanessa appearance was the fact she can punch very fast and heavily with her thin arms.
No, she's more like any average buff MMA girl/boxer... at least they didn't gave her ugly dreadlocks or shaved haircut... -_-

I'll pass and wait for the next charcter, hopefully not in 14 days...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on June 24, 2021, 09:09:22 am
edit: It might be Chang + Choi again though. lol

If the semi-canon manga is indicating something then yeah those two are back in their misery again.

The new team reveal did surprise me, now I hope we get some XIV team for real.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mgbenz on June 24, 2021, 09:42:59 am
[youtube]https://youtu.be/fb3ldoiHIIg[/youtube]

I wanna say RIP Gang-Il but there's still a slim chance for Kim to team up with him and bring Jhun or May Lee on board.

https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/press/2021/062403/

Quote
Luong is a femme fatale type fighter with mysterious motives. She can and will lacerate her enemies like a whip with her long legs and her arranged tae kwon do kicking techniques. This KOF, she’s seemingly working in opposition to her lover Gang-il and his disciple Kim, but perhaps all is not how it seems…
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on June 24, 2021, 11:54:55 am

https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/press/2021/062403/

Quote
Luong is a femme fatale type fighter with mysterious motives. She can and will lacerate her enemies like a whip with her long legs and her arranged tae kwon do kicking techniques. This KOF, she’s seemingly working in opposition to her lover Gang-il and his disciple Kim, but perhaps all is not how it seems…


That's quite interesting, I guess maybe an ulterior motive or want to get some quality time away from the Master as he schools Kim. So maybe Jhun or maybe Maylee might return, at least those two are enjoying themselves away from Kim.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on June 24, 2021, 04:01:08 pm
Very likely that Gang-Il will just drag in Kim and Jhun to form a team. And heck, this also means Gang-Il will get some sorely needed character development.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on June 24, 2021, 04:22:13 pm
This game will be on top next year, cause SNK really shatting our expectations
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on June 24, 2021, 05:12:47 pm
i can only hope they actually develop luong in some way, but the "agents" team has had ramon for no reason in the past, so not holding my breath there
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 100_Sad_Pandas on June 24, 2021, 05:49:00 pm
Arms are too thick and I can get over some redesigns outside of the striped leggings which are too much of a sore thumb for me.

Her arms are normal sized tho... they're exactly the size I would expect from a female boxer her size

and honestly I quite like the pants, I see a lot of people where those kinds of striped pants nowadays because they're considered trendy
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on June 24, 2021, 11:01:15 pm
yeah i dont get the beefy arm thing lol, such a weird complaint
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on June 24, 2021, 11:37:34 pm
All right, i kinda expected Blue Mary and Vanessa together again but Luong an Agent?

Hmmm, now i'm curious if all that mystery around Luong since KOF XIV (specially in the manga) is about that she's indeed an Agent and what her true purpose.

Also, is it just me or this Secret Agent Team is a Charlie's Angels reference? :v
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 25, 2021, 12:28:45 am
"Hey so we're undercover right, no one has to know. What do we name our team?"

"Team Secret Agents"

"Yeah ok, I dig that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on June 25, 2021, 11:21:06 am
Team Charlie's Angels
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on June 25, 2021, 01:36:26 pm
I'm thinking that Chang and Choi may return to Kim since teaming up with Xanadu is not really doing so well. I'm am hoping they show a character that is new to KOF that good they add characters that haven't been seen for a while but are expected.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on June 25, 2021, 01:37:21 pm
Team Charlie's Angels

But it's Better Version.....
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on June 25, 2021, 01:53:44 pm
I'm thinking that Chang and Choi may return to Kim since teaming up with Xanadu is not really doing so well. I'm am hoping they show a character that is new to KOF that good they add characters that haven't been seen for a while but are expected.

Chang and Choi can go wherever they go. They might even be non playable and I would be ok, as long as my favourite newcomer from the last game, Xanadu makes it. I do not mind who he goes with, as long as he's updated and back.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on June 25, 2021, 03:18:00 pm
Rumor (Team Street fighers)  :yuno:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 25, 2021, 03:20:01 pm
Nah, Chang and Choi will team up with Xanadu again simply becuz the trio works well as a team.
And even if they return to Kim, who's Gang-Il going to end up with then?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on June 25, 2021, 03:28:09 pm
Nah, Chang and Choi will team up with Xanadu again simply becuz the trio works well as a team.
And even if they return to Kim, who's Gang-Il going to end up with then?

New version of Masters team, Heidern can be used from his XIV and so is Tung. But It's likely he will be with Kim or just remain sidelined
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on June 25, 2021, 03:44:19 pm
Nah, Chang and Choi will team up with Xanadu again simply becuz the trio works well as a team.
And even if they return to Kim, who's Gang-Il going to end up with then?

Yes, that's right, but it can be a good opportunity to bring back Jhun <3
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 25, 2021, 03:49:25 pm
Nah, Chang and Choi will team up with Xanadu again simply becuz the trio works well as a team.
And even if they return to Kim, who's Gang-Il going to end up with then?

New version of Masters team, Heidern can be used from his XIV and so is Tung. But It's likely he will be with Kim or just remain sidelined

I think Tung is likely dead or too fragile to fight anymore.
Heidern is a good candidate, but we'd be missing a third fighter if we were to bring Masters team back.
I would like to see Takuma, but since the chances are quite slim, I'd say Gang-Il will remain with Kim while Chang & Choi will remain with Xanadu.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on June 25, 2021, 04:15:24 pm
What makes you think Tung is too old to fight or dead? In the XIV manga he was looking pretty fit. I'd rather see Takuma than him, though
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 25, 2021, 05:48:55 pm
He states that Shun'ei & Meiten... whatever he's called were his last students. He then asks Saisyu to ask Kyo/Benimaru/Daimon to look after the two in the future (thus the reason why I think Benimaru teamed up with them instead of Tung for 15).

Tung was introduced in 14 as the "Chinese" master for Shun'ei & Meiten (we also have Chin, but he has Athena and Kensou) and since Beni is their mentor now, I think Tung is either too old to fight or dead lorewise, either way.

I like Tung, but he's more of a one-shot character in my eyes to introduce two new Chinese heroes. He was only introduced to KOF in XI and even then, he had little development.
It was also heavily hinted that he had a hard time competing in 14 also, so I don't think his absence is that big of a surprise...

His age is one thing (he's always been old), but I think his body has become too fragile to fight and him as a fighter became too frail due to time... I wouldn't say he's "dead" but I certainly think he won't be back for 15.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on June 30, 2021, 04:58:41 am
they seems to be announcing the next character trailer in fortnight instead of weekly in a row after they postponed the release in 2022:
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1410055488369172480
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on June 30, 2021, 05:01:54 am
This is disgustingly frustrating jfc
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on June 30, 2021, 05:26:20 am
This game has enough characters to showcase a gameplay demo of some kind. That would be better than no reveal so what gives on their end?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on June 30, 2021, 05:31:10 am
It's just irritating to wait through a week of silence, hoping the next trailer will be worth it, only for them to announce, the day before, out of nowhere, that it's delayed.



I dunno it's just... REALLY frustrating.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 30, 2021, 05:36:56 am
Making us wait months for characters like K', Kim and Athena lmao
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on June 30, 2021, 06:07:44 am
At this point, we are gonna get the last character reveals for SFV and Smash Ultimate before this game even shows us what the lifebars look like.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 30, 2021, 09:23:05 am
Yeah, I wouldn't have a problem with reveals being delayed if we actually got new stuff, but even the characters that weren't in KoFXIV aren't new ones. Like, waiting a long time for more copy-pasted assets from the previous game to be shown isn't exactly exciting or rewarding.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on June 30, 2021, 09:49:56 am
I'm gonna be honest and say I forgot that this was Silhouette Day. Sad news, though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on June 30, 2021, 02:03:08 pm
Since the last one, I have no more expectation...
Nothing to "shatter" here...

If they release in 2023 or 2024... They decide...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on June 30, 2021, 03:27:17 pm
I miss the novel stuff like Idle Stances and BGM Previews, it was filler but at least we could get a close glimpse at the fighters and other areas.
The variety needs an upgrade during the supposed extended wait between trailers.
I understand the reasonable delay, but I like my appetizers.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on July 06, 2021, 05:07:17 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1412426113482039297
List of console systems that kofxv will run
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on July 06, 2021, 07:51:24 pm
PS4?   YES!!!

Day 1 buy!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on July 06, 2021, 07:53:11 pm
i need to get an xbox series x or s whichever is better in order to play this, but they're all sold out
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 06, 2021, 08:39:10 pm
Damn, no Switch version?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on July 06, 2021, 09:14:59 pm
No Switch version. RIP. Looks like I’m not playing this
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on July 06, 2021, 10:42:28 pm
Damn, no Switch version?
The whole point of #ShatterAllExpectations is making the game look hella better compared to KOF XIV, and for that they need powerful machines to produce striking visuals.

Maybe further along the line they'll pump out a lower poly, slightly visually nerfed port like they did for Samsho  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on July 06, 2021, 10:51:54 pm
Yes.! no epic game exclusive.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on July 06, 2021, 10:53:52 pm
Now's your chance to thank people like me who bought Samurai Shodown on Steam.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 06, 2021, 11:27:47 pm
The whole point of #ShatterAllExpectations is making the game look hella better compared to KOF XIV, and for that they need powerful machines to produce striking visuals.

Maybe further along the line they'll pump out a lower poly, slightly visually nerfed port like they did for Samsho  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
My no source - completely fanboy- headcanon reason for the shatter all expectations is that the last SFV char will be from KOF and KOF will have a SF team or even a rivals company team. Ryu, Kazuya, Shirase

Don't worry, this isn't a very high internal hype up so I won't be disappointed when it doesn't happen XD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on July 07, 2021, 04:30:33 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial_jp/status/1412592201973088259

Ramon?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on July 07, 2021, 04:40:26 am
Looks a lot like Ramon, yeah... which means Angel isn't far behind.

WHICH MEANS K9999 IS ON THE WAY TOO

In all seriousness yeah, I'm betting on Ramon.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 07, 2021, 05:09:22 am
WB Ramon Viva Mejco
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on July 07, 2021, 08:03:50 am
I was just a bit too early with my joke.. ^^;

I would not even be surprised if this silhouette is Chang or  Ramon... (just kidding)

Good to see Ramon back.
I like fast grapplers! Hope they give him a slightly better design than in KOFXIV.

And yes, hopefully Angel soon...
I mean we'll see in 2 weeks... or 4...
D*mn, it makes the process so long...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on July 07, 2021, 09:07:06 am
Really hoping it's a non KoFXIV character but I'm thinking it's Ramon yeah.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on July 07, 2021, 06:18:59 pm
I am happy PS4 will be getting this and looking forward for Ramon to show up!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on July 08, 2021, 04:13:04 am
Ramon: https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1412954590731915268  :pirate:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on July 08, 2021, 06:25:35 am
To me, he freaking looks like KOFXIV version...
Anyway, I feel like supporting Guilty Gear Strive...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on July 08, 2021, 07:23:54 am
copy paste 14 no new moves or even new super thats so lame. at least give them new super
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on July 08, 2021, 08:07:06 am
yes, like everyone of those characters they have been announcing.xD except for chemmie and Yashiro but anyway  they has been a copy paste from past games
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on July 08, 2021, 08:54:57 am
Look decent enough and there isn't much to get upset about, but I believe he could've had a CLIMAX change at least because the current one's lacking at best.

I wonder what they mean by Windows 10 for a platform though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 08, 2021, 03:31:50 pm
yes, like everyone of those characters they have been announcing.xD except for chemmie and Yashiro but anyway  they has been a copy paste from past games
Chris and Chizuru too.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on July 09, 2021, 09:08:58 am
The overwhelming amount of returning characters wouldn't even be so bad if they add least spiced up these characters from their previous interations more. Outside of Terry, Kyo, Benimaru and Iori, none of the characters really had drastic changes to their designs to evolve or update them in any meaningful way.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kkhohoho on July 09, 2021, 03:42:14 pm
I mean, maybe the design and moves are the same. But in terms of graphical presentation, he looks leagues better than in XIV. Same with everyone else.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 09, 2021, 04:37:45 pm
Let's not kid ourselves here. He doesn't look "leagues better", he only looks slightly better, which isn't much, considering how KoF XIV wasn't that pretty to begin with. He got a small visual update, but it's obvious that it's copy-pasted. They really need to start bringing new stuff.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kkhohoho on July 09, 2021, 07:31:52 pm
Just because it's copy-pasted doesn't mean it's not a huge improvement. Everything from the textures to the shading to the lighting is a major step up. You can say they should have remade all the models from the ground up, but it's not like they have the money or resources to do that without cutting the roster down to a fraction.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 09, 2021, 08:43:07 pm
Its not a major step up, its a small improvement at best. If they really want people to get hyped for this, they better show new stuff, otherwise, people will stop giving a shit.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on July 09, 2021, 08:57:47 pm
Its not a major step up, its a small improvement at best. If they really want people to get hyped for this, they better show new stuff, otherwise, people will stop giving a shit.

I expect new stuff in about 2 or 3 trailers, TBH.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on July 10, 2021, 06:19:04 am
id be ok if the roster was smaller if it meant they actually update their characters rather than just pasting them from one iteration to the next. this is snore inducing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on July 10, 2021, 07:58:23 am
Anything better than XIV is an improvement.
Can't say XV's visuals are top notch or anywhere near SF:V or Tekken 7's level, but it's nice to see KOF in nice 3D renders.

However, the problem lies within the animation department.
They look clunky as hell with the newer models and SNK is reluctant to change that.
Pretty models aside, I want to play a fighting game where I feel like my moves are connecting and are flowing nicely.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PeXXeR on July 11, 2021, 01:38:26 am
While I would like to see something new this is nothing new for SNK.
its always been like this, with recycled assets and whatnot.

Could care less about Ramon and Vanessa and that other big tit waifu, forgot her name, the trailer before Vanessa.
They could have done something fun and bring Rick in to the mix but no.
I swear if Rock is DLC I will flip my shit.

Chars I would love to see.
Rugal
Raiden
Goenitz
Orochi Shermie
K
Kasumi
Geese
Maybe bring Hibiki instead of Nako this time around or Shiki ?
Yamazaki
Whip
Rock
Lin
Maybe bring Tia to kof ?
Marco ?
Bonne Janet ?
Kain ?
Rosa ?
Hotaro ?
and someone new in general, given how Terry is  fighting EX layer I wont mind seeing Skullo or Doctorine Dark in kof as DLC.


I could care less about the lore just make a fun game.
SNK has such a wide range of chars and yet they bring Yuri and etc back.

Edit:
Looking at the Luong trailer she loos kinda fun reminds me of Juri in a way.
I have only fought her in XIV never played her.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: T_DR on July 11, 2021, 07:53:39 am
With Ramon back, I'm guessing he's gonna partner up with Angel and King of Dinosaurs again? I'd be down for him partnering up with Raiden or if he decides to use the Big Bear (Face) persona in contrast of Tizoc using his heel King of Dinosaurs gimmick.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on July 11, 2021, 10:43:04 am
I swear if Rock is DLC I will flip my shit.

Hope that Rock returns, even if he'll came as a solo character.

Well, K' is already confirmed tho. Probably Geese and Yamazaki will return.
And since the pachinko franchises were sold, i think if the Another World Team returns there will be two characters from other franchises along with Nakoruru.
Maybe... Eri (Metal Slug) and Jeanne (World Heroes)?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on July 11, 2021, 01:03:50 pm
I swear if Rock is DLC I will flip my shit.

Hope that Rock returns, even if he'll came as a solo character.

Well, K' is already confirmed tho. Probably Geese and Yamazaki will return.
And since the pachinko franchises were sold, i think if the Another World Team returns there will be two characters from other franchises along with Nakoruru.
Maybe... Eri (Metal Slug) and Jeanne (World Heroes)?

Marco, Eri and Fio? Now, wouldn't that be badass.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on July 11, 2021, 03:37:12 pm
I swear if Rock is DLC I will flip my shit.

Hope that Rock returns, even if he'll came as a solo character.

Well, K' is already confirmed tho. Probably Geese and Yamazaki will return.
And since the pachinko franchises were sold, i think if the Another World Team returns there will be two characters from other franchises along with Nakoruru.
Maybe... Eri (Metal Slug) and Jeanne (World Heroes)?

Yes, I would love some ADK team. with characters you can see in NGBC or not.

Also, sure it would be nice to see character from non-SNK licences as well. My hope are this kof is not "KOFXIV.2"
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on July 12, 2021, 12:27:11 pm

Yes, I would love some ADK team. with characters you can see in NGBC or not.

Also, sure it would be nice to see character from non-SNK licences as well. My hope are this kof is not "KOFXIV.2"

So, I was browsing in the snk fandom and I saw Koudelka there...what if there is a reference to that?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on July 12, 2021, 05:12:23 pm

Yes, I would love some ADK team. with characters you can see in NGBC or not.

Also, sure it would be nice to see character from non-SNK licences as well. My hope are this kof is not "KOFXIV.2"

So, I was browsing in the snk fandom and I saw Koudelka there...what if there is a reference to that?

Really few chances I think.
I checked and seems like SNK only published this game. nothing else (and just for japan)

But yest, it could be interesting to see something from existing games.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on July 13, 2021, 04:49:07 pm
And since the pachinko franchises were sold, i think if the Another World Team returns there will be two characters from other franchises along with Nakoruru.
Maybe... Eri (Metal Slug) and Jeanne (World Heroes)?
Or maybe she might team up with Haohmaru/Hanzo/Galford/kyoshiro? They might be the team to deal with Mizuki Rashojin since she is suspected to have revived?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 14, 2021, 01:21:19 am
Honestly I just don't see a full Samurai Shodown or Metal Slug team happening. In the case of Metal Slug not only would the characters be redundant among themselves but also with the Ikari team. As for SamSho, you'd end with a full team of swordfighters going against an entire roster of hand-to-hand fighters, balance be damned. I could see one of each appearing as part of a team or as DLC though.

If anything, I would prefer if SNK did what they did with Ralf, Clark, Athena, Kensou and Maxima, where they took an existing character from another franchise and remade it entirely just for KoF.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on July 14, 2021, 03:14:55 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial_jp/status/1414948091057393673 (https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial_jp/status/1414948091057393673)

Okay, now I'm impressed SNK. This one is just a liiiiiiiiittle bit tougher than the usual...

:stare:

(https://imgur.com/e7mygvd.png)

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on July 14, 2021, 03:19:59 am
0_0 remember the metal slug inspired stage we saw during the ralf and clark trailer, and we discussed about adding a metal slug character in? out of all the metal slug characters to be including in this kof game, it's bound to be the main antagonists of both metal slugs 2 and 3: marspeople

which makes sense considering that marspeople did appear in a crossover game called neo geo battle colliseum

edit: and let's not forget: ralf and clark did appear at metal slug at some point called metal slug 6 which came out 15 years ago and leona appeared in metal slug too as well
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on July 14, 2021, 03:32:49 am

Bro

You're four months late on the April Fools joke lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on July 14, 2021, 04:03:11 am
God dammit
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 14, 2021, 06:33:38 am
There was reportedly a huge storm in the region of Osaka today, this might be the reason why they didn't make any announcement today.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on July 14, 2021, 06:39:05 am
There was reportedly a huge storm in the region of Osaka today, this might be the reason why they didn't make any announcement today.

That's fair. I just hope they don't announce another delay tomorrow

Cause SNK needs to just communicate properly for once lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on July 14, 2021, 09:10:06 am
Didn't they say last time that they would be doing announcements once every other week now instead of every week ? We got Ramon last week, there's nothing this week.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 14, 2021, 03:08:29 pm
Didn't they say last time that they would be doing announcements once every other week now instead of every week ? We got Ramon last week, there's nothing this week.

They didn't, people just assumed that was the case.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on July 14, 2021, 07:49:32 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial_jp/status/1414948091057393673 (https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial_jp/status/1414948091057393673)

Okay, now I'm impressed SNK. This one is just a liiiiiiiiittle bit tougher than the usual...

:stare:

(https://imgur.com/e7mygvd.png)

Looks fake as f*

EDIT : OK, it is...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on July 14, 2021, 07:50:10 pm
They didn't, people just assumed that was the case.
Oh that wasn't an actual announcement ? lol this isn't going so well right now.
Title: KOF XV Possible PS5 features
Post by: videoman on July 14, 2021, 11:13:46 pm
Since this game is confirmed I will come to PS5 natively and may run on Unreal Engine 5 since it will come next year. It may offer superior graphic modes running at 60fps. I would like to see a raytracing mode and a 120 Hz mode (The same as the 120fps mode from Samurai Showdown for the Series X). The help page could be used as a cheat sheet to show each character's move commands. Haptic feedback and 3d audio could be used as an option. They should add graphic and brightness calibration settings for the best picture. I have already sent this directly to SNK. Unreal Engine 5 is compatible with all platforms.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on July 15, 2021, 12:44:52 am
Since this game is confirmed I will come to PS5 natively and may run on Unreal Engine 5 since it will come next year. It may offer superior graphic modes running at 60fps. I would like to see a raytracing mode and a 120 Hz mode (The same as the 120fps mode from Samurai Showdown for the Series X). The help page could be used as a cheat sheet to show each character's move commands. Haptic feedback and 3d audio could be used as an option. They should add graphic and brightness calibration settings for the best picture. I have already sent this directly to SNK.
Good for you Videoman, sticking it to the man, giving them a piece of your mind

ON THE OTHER HAND. I'm so happy this game will be serviceable for PS4. PS5 is short basically everywhere, and at a prohibitively unaffordable price in every third world country.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on July 15, 2021, 02:23:13 am
I know the PS5 now is hard to come by (You can thank the semiconductor shortage for that.) but it is not permanent. Developers will make the switch to those consoles to put them to their full potential. KOFXV is no different.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on July 15, 2021, 02:42:31 am
let's not forget that the xbox series x/s is sold out
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 15, 2021, 01:48:47 pm
*laughs in Nintendo Switch not having shortage issues*
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on July 15, 2021, 11:47:34 pm
Looks like the only way we'll be playing KOF in a handheld system any time soon is the STEAM DECK :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: four on July 17, 2021, 09:19:31 am
THIS character is mars people from metal slug?


Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 17, 2021, 06:22:13 pm
THIS character is mars people from metal slug?
Its a fake silhouette.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on July 21, 2021, 04:26:25 am


:/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: senorfro on July 21, 2021, 04:29:02 am
Well, since Gematsu leaked it a day early, SNK probably figured 'might as well show it now'
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on July 21, 2021, 04:38:12 am
THIS character is mars people from metal slug?
Its a fake silhouette.

I see
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on July 21, 2021, 05:31:57 am
Tizoc with literal lava manifesting powers that is not from bad orange juice FX.  This is uncanny.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 21, 2021, 05:58:15 am
Apparently this trailer was supposed to come out last week. We might end getting another trailer tomorrow.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on July 21, 2021, 06:10:35 am
Apparently this trailer was supposed to come out last week. We might end getting another trailer tomorrow.

I sure hope we do, it won't make up for how slow paced this has all been but it will be a step in the right direction at least.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on July 21, 2021, 09:03:19 am
Kinda salty because it isn't Shingo or even Tizoc, since the former just got a manga and the latter was seen in KOF: ANB when KOD was 'unmasked'.

At least we get a new Climax for once after all the re-using.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Diek Stiekem on July 21, 2021, 01:55:04 pm
I'm pleased, Dinosaur was my favorite newcomer in KOF14
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on July 21, 2021, 02:55:57 pm
His feet look less out of scale with everyone else in this game, probably because of the artstyle change giving everyone else cartoonish proportions as well.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on July 21, 2021, 04:12:21 pm
So far we've only seen old faces. Now I wonder if 15 will even have new characters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on July 21, 2021, 06:13:27 pm
his supers are pretty cool
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on July 21, 2021, 06:27:33 pm
Well, since Gematsu leaked it a day early, [...]'

I have a very reliable source... and he say that the next 2 reveal trailers are going to be Angel and K', respectively.   :datass:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kkhohoho on July 21, 2021, 08:05:06 pm
So far we've only seen old faces.

...because they want to show all the old characters first before getting to the new ones?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on July 21, 2021, 09:13:50 pm
So far we've only seen old faces.

...because they want to show all the old characters first before getting to the new ones?

Well nostalgia pops are one thing, It's likely we'll get others overtime!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on July 21, 2021, 11:12:56 pm
I have a very reliable source... and he say that the next 2 reveal trailers are going to be Angel and K', respectively.   :datass:

2 characters I really like, even if K' is a bit meh since KOF XIV
Perhaps his appearance have been tweaked since the first trailers.

Hope Angel will not have a bad redesign... and hope they upgrade a bit her fighting style.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on July 22, 2021, 12:20:20 am
So far we've only seen old faces.

...because they want to show all the old characters first before getting to the new ones?
More like returning characters are already mostly done and new characters (that weren't in XIV) have to be done from scratch, it's definitely not finalized yet. We still got 4 of those already (returning old characters), that's a lot right from the start. As for brand new characters, given the type of characters they've been going with lately, it's not the kind of new faces that bring hype.
So I'd expect both new faces and returning old characters will be saved for much later.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on July 22, 2021, 12:59:50 am
I have a very reliable source... and he say that the next 2 reveal trailers are going to be Angel and K', respectively.   :datass:

2 characters I really like, even if K' is a bit meh since KOF XIV
Perhaps his appearance have been tweaked since the first trailers.

Hope Angel will not have a bad redesign... and hope they upgrade a bit her fighting style.

This leaker also states that Athena is already being worked on. And that she may, or may not use the same outfit from KOF XIV as the default - althought it's guaranted that she will look even younger than before;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on July 22, 2021, 02:42:52 am
Kinda salty because it isn't Shingo or even Tizoc, since the former just got a manga and the latter was seen in KOF: ANB when KOD was 'unmasked'.

At least we get a new Climax for once after all the re-using.

I saw that, I've been caught up on that manga
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 22, 2021, 04:25:57 am
So far we've only seen old faces.

...because they want to show all the old characters first before getting to the new ones?
How is that a good thing? They're supposed to get us hyped for the new game, showing us that they're only bringing a lot of reused stuff isn't a good way to do so. Its like they're saying "Hey, KoF XV is gonna have everything KoF XIV has." and we're like... cool, what else?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on July 22, 2021, 09:11:11 am
I have a very reliable source... and he say that the next 2 reveal trailers are going to be Angel and K', respectively.   :datass:

2 characters I really like, even if K' is a bit meh since KOF XIV
Perhaps his appearance have been tweaked since the first trailers.

Hope Angel will not have a bad redesign... and hope they upgrade a bit her fighting style.

This leaker also states that Athena is already being worked on. And that she may, or may not use the same outfit from KOF XIV as the default - althought it's guaranted that she will look even younger than before;

I gave up on Athena for a moment now. Damn, her next step will be 12 yo looking kid... -_-
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lichtbringer on July 22, 2021, 10:16:36 pm
I gave up on Athena for a moment now. Damn, her next step will be 12 yo looking kid... -_-

So basicaly "Ohgaki Athena." ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on July 26, 2021, 09:05:11 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7L_V18UYAIV59F?format=jpg&name=large)
KOD The King of Dinosaurs!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on July 28, 2021, 06:48:57 am
Najd?

https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial_jp/status/1420202349595742208
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on July 28, 2021, 07:00:15 am
Oop hello Angel.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on July 28, 2021, 07:08:20 am
That's definitely Angel.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on July 28, 2021, 08:28:36 am
The sleeves say Angel, but her chest says otherwise. Probably just the silhouette filter being funny.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on July 28, 2021, 08:44:23 am
Najd?

https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial_jp/status/1420202349595742208
if that is her, she is gonna team up with mai and yuri to form women team, it makes sense  :truestory:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on July 28, 2021, 09:24:10 am
Kula would make sense since she was  I think K is the only character that was showed in the first game trailer that we still havent seen yet and this would mean that his team is finally getting revealed.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on July 28, 2021, 10:41:30 am
The sleeve design is definitely Angel.
This blurry filter give her a strange hair style feeling, but I'm pretty sure, she's almost exactly like in KOF XIV.

Hope they didn't messed up with her...

I will not put too much into it. even if Angel, just like Shermie is from my fav girls... fast deadly wrestlers...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on July 28, 2021, 11:01:08 am
Obviously, it's SNK's response to the Terry guest in Fighting EX Layer;

...none other than Janis Luciani! :laugh2::goi:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmwfVEzWEAEHlcA.jpg)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on July 28, 2021, 11:48:19 am
if that is her, she is gonna team up with mai and yuri to form women team, it makes sense  :truestory:

Reading some of the Twitter replies they say it's Athena.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ComboAssassin20 on July 28, 2021, 01:02:16 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7WJy9YUUAMaPa2?format=jpg&name=small)

with a silhouette like that, I can obviously tell is Athena, no denying about it
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lasombra Demon on July 28, 2021, 01:51:20 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/7RhF8rp/Untitled.png)

Nope, it's Ditto!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on July 28, 2021, 02:44:47 pm
I was thinking Kula actually, but I can see it being both Athena and Angel as well.
I'll hold a button on my first thought, Kula.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 28, 2021, 03:59:42 pm
Its best girl Kula!

Anyway, this trailer will only come out on the Friday, during the ChinaJoy2021 event.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on July 28, 2021, 04:16:16 pm
Anyway, this trailer will only come out on the Friday, during the ChinaJoy2021 event.

Wait fr it’s not even coming out tonight what
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on July 28, 2021, 05:39:36 pm
Nope, will be on Friday indeed. :v
And yes, i highly believe it's Kula.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on July 28, 2021, 08:03:08 pm
Yes, it can be Kula...

With the fck'd up blurry effect, I would not even be surprised if it's Kim or Chang... ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on July 28, 2021, 08:12:29 pm
Anyway, this trailer will only come out on the Friday, during the ChinaJoy2021 event.

ChinaJoy2021?

Then it's 110% Athena.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 28, 2021, 08:19:22 pm
Apparently they'll also have a demo of the game during this event.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on July 29, 2021, 09:03:10 am
it's athena there's even a headpiece on her head with the pose it looks like she's giving a V sign or sparkly hands movement....wish they revamp her gameplay same goes for k' they are kinda boring to play as.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lunchbillion on July 29, 2021, 12:14:25 pm
Is that a dinosaur?
Didn't we just have one??
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on July 29, 2021, 12:23:57 pm
it's athena there's even a headpiece on her head with the pose it looks like she's giving a V sign or sparkly hands movement....wish they revamp her gameplay same goes for k' they are kinda boring to play as.

At this point they should be giving Phoenix Arrow armor.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on July 30, 2021, 06:42:21 am


I am so happy to see her... they also brought back Psycho Shoot and gave her a new level 3!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on July 30, 2021, 06:58:56 am
She looks like a DOA character.
And also,
Who modelled her hair? It looks like a cheap wig.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Hero on July 30, 2021, 07:06:06 am
The clothes are on point, I like that change and I hope they never go back to the school uniform. I agree on the hair, it doesn't look very good. If they wanted to have her use short hair, why not use the 99 version? or even the 2k one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: EveryonesKouhai on July 30, 2021, 07:28:06 am
She looks like a DOA character.
the fuck does that even mean?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on July 30, 2021, 07:32:04 am
I'm absolutely fine about her new design.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 30, 2021, 07:32:39 am
They better not have ditched Kensou again I MFing swear.

Phoenix Arrow looks bad, not gonna lie. I don't get  the team name, none of them are super in any way aside from Athena. I guess this is the new Women Fighters team.

Also it deadass sounded like the announcer said team super HEROIN. I died.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on July 30, 2021, 07:40:22 am
She looks like a DOA character.
the fuck does that even mean?


She looks like a Dead Or Alive character.

Meaning,
A typical loli character with colorful aesthetics and very eccentric clothes.
I'd classify Kula as well in this category.

It's not a bad thing, she just looks like a DOA character, that's all.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on July 30, 2021, 07:47:57 am
Phoenix Arrow looks bad, not gonna lie.

Yeah. Only 2 hits.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 30, 2021, 07:54:20 am
I mean I've always thought of it as a move that lacked impact but at least it looked good before. Right now it looks like some of the most underwhelming shit ever.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on July 30, 2021, 08:54:15 am
The clothes look good except for the fact that she's just bottomless for reasons ??
the silhouette was just nothing like the actual portrait after all.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on July 30, 2021, 09:02:09 am
Not a bad update to Athena Explosion.
I also wish Crystal Bit was more satisfying, like being multihit in the same manner as XIII.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on July 30, 2021, 09:09:19 am
To me, her design is not that bad. even if it looks incomplete.
The hair is still very strange. (no problem with the choice of hair cut, just 3D modelisation is weird)
Seems like they tried to make Jam design, but failed...

My only real complain is, I don't recognize Athena AT ALL...
Looks like a random Chinese-like new character.

At least, this way, we can forget the previous design and body apearance... absolutely made for Chinese tastes.

Nothing absolutely new on her. Not many risks taken.


Also, OK, Super Heroine Team... OK, you can say that about Athena, but Yuri ? Mai ? Superheroines ?...

Sometimes I just don't understand new SNK choices...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lichtbringer on July 30, 2021, 09:09:56 am
I think her design is ok, she had better designs in the past but also worse designs, at least they seem to go back to the tradition to give her a new costume in every game.

https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Athena_Asamiya/Gallery

To be honest I think the Hair looks kind of odd on her, but that could be personal preference, I always liked the designs of her with long her more.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on July 30, 2021, 10:35:13 am
athena looks overly cute to me :pfht:

A trailer shown in chinajoy 2021 event:
https://www.facebook.com/teampowergeyser/videos/974961920005416
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on July 30, 2021, 12:59:13 pm
Atleast, we heard the new banger used for Shunei and first reveal again....the cutscenes though are interesting!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on July 30, 2021, 01:37:56 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7hboyJVIAM5DVs?format=jpg&name=large)

The face of someone who's been through 15 yearly tournaments;

They at least got a break from the schoolgirl uniform, so that's a plus I guess...? (again, if you just ignore the fact that there have been other KOF games before XII/XIII...)


Also the music is kinda cool.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on July 30, 2021, 03:18:09 pm
I feel this is probably the best Athena has ever looked <3
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on July 30, 2021, 03:24:12 pm
I like her new design. They found a way to make her look simultaneously 19 and 9, so that’s something. I like Athena with shorter hair, I feel like they don’t do it enough.

I also like the psionic FX she’s got. Though I do wish they could be a bit more opaque, I think they look pretty decent. She looks fun and I wouldn’t mind playing her.

Also it deadass sounded like the announcer said team super HEROIN. I died.

I heard it too but that’s how heroine is pronounced so I suppose it was to be expected lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on July 30, 2021, 04:14:54 pm
So, the Moe Girls Team in KOF '98 is official now. :3
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EhlWRCjc-vI/UsWPfrHKuOI/AAAAAAAAI6Q/Be8PIiQPQuE/s280/yuri-athena-mai.png)

I'm glad with this formation for the Women Fighters Heroines Team.

Athena looks damn great, really reminds her in KOF 2000, but better. I can agreed with Walt that is the best looking Athena in the series.

Also, thank God the Psycho Shoot is back. But yeah, Phoenix Arrow got nerfed. Why? :v

FX/visual effects, specially of the Psycho Ball looks interesting.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kkhohoho on July 30, 2021, 05:38:15 pm
Also, thank God the Psycho Shoot is back. But yeah, Phoenix Arrow got nerfed. Why? :v

Because the Psycho Shoot is back and they had to nerf other stuff to compensate?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on July 30, 2021, 05:58:17 pm
The face of someone who's been through 15 yearly tournaments;
I keep thinking it's weird but SNK did say they stopped caring about the year number early on, they haven't aged more than a couple years since 97 and they just gave up giving everyone an official age beside the original one.

My fav is still that 02 version, Eolith monkey art style notwithstanding. That top looks great but the skirt looks so weird like it's part of the top and she has nothing below.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on July 31, 2021, 05:20:03 pm
So...

This is the first time since 99 to see her in short hair, I liked this when they went different hairstyles during the Nests Saga, Last time her hair was different was KOF MI 2!

As far as Kensou goes, well there is manga revolving around Shingo ongoing right now. We could see A team of those two but the issue is then who will be the 3rd member, K9999 is not going to be coming back anytime soon due to SNK's weird temperament around that one.

Unless you want to bring Nameless in which at least he has a canon identity and can be a potential rival to the new protagonist. But let's be hopeful he at least gets a DLC treatment if not included in the base game.

The other person could be Nakoruru but she will have a different team probably.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on July 31, 2021, 09:58:28 pm
My fav is still that 02 version, Eolith monkey art style notwithstanding. That top looks great but the skirt looks so weird like it's part of the top and she has nothing below.

I feel exactly like you about that.
2K2 was really a great design. And Athena looked just cute enough in this game.

In this new version, I have this same unfinished design (clothes) feeling. They could have solved the problem by giving her slightly longer top/dress.
Again, no problem with giving her short hair, but her hair and face modelisation is still strange...

I don't understand why they mess up with some (female) characters hair, when Andy have a perfect hair modelisation.

Some informed persons told me it could be because they work with different 3D studios, some not even in Japan, and the quality can be lower in some characters. or appearance can be different from what a character used to look like.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 01, 2021, 12:57:18 am
As far as Kensou goes, well there is manga revolving around Shingo ongoing right now.
Oh yeah, the good news is that Chin is probably gone, and if not, it means we might see a Masters team like in 98. It'll be weird seeing Kensou in a team without Athena though (I'm blocking out a team of Kensou, Chin, and someone else, please no Momoko / Bao).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Scramble on August 01, 2021, 01:38:36 am
It would be really cool to see Kensou in a team with Shingo. They’re both students of strongest Warriors Chin and Saisyu. And I think the third member can probably be Rock, since he is Terry’s Mentee.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 01, 2021, 02:07:50 am
So...

This is the first time since 99 to see her in short hair, I liked this when they went different hairstyles during the Nests Saga, Last time her hair was different was KOF MI 2!

As far as Kensou goes, well there is manga revolving around Shingo ongoing right now. We could see A team of those two but the issue is then who will be the 3rd member, K9999 is not going to be coming back anytime soon due to SNK's weird temperament around that one.

Unless you want to bring Nameless in which at least he has a canon identity and can be a potential rival to the new protagonist. But let's be hopeful he at least gets a DLC treatment if not included in the base game.

The other person could be Nakoruru but she will have a different team probably.

Last time she used short hair was in 2001.

As for Kensou, if they intend to have him in the game, something that right now isn't certain, he could be put in a team with Duo Lon and a third member, possibly Mian, to form a Dragon Spirit Team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 02, 2021, 03:33:41 pm
there might be some gameplay footages at chinajoy2021 event? https://twitter.com/Mekikung/status/1422029779096592384
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 03, 2021, 03:23:05 am
there's no new stuff only but what they have shown were old trailers with upgraded effects and models. mai has bigger boobs now.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 04, 2021, 04:26:05 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E76UzNWVgAQc27k.jpg)

https://mobile.twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1422739062163640320

Next reveal coming next week, 8/11
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 04, 2021, 04:52:08 am
Huh... for once, I'm stumped with no guesses as to who it could be. I see some folks on Twitter saying Antonov or Gang Il but it looks... too small to be either of them tbh.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on August 04, 2021, 09:29:43 am
I wanna say Daimon because of the posture, but the weird head says otherwise.

Judging by the new date they're likely saving it for an EVO announcement.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Diek Stiekem on August 04, 2021, 10:09:00 am
Raaaiiiiddeeeennnn!

I think lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 04, 2021, 10:39:39 am
No doubt, it's Bao...

Seriously.
Remember this silhouette shape... The result will be totally different.
Just like everytime.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 04, 2021, 10:52:22 am
I wonder what's that thing hanging from his left arm (I mean, I know, I just don't see who has this body type and has an arm band like that). Also where his pelvis is and if that's a belly on the right side, that's a weirder pose than it looks at first glance.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ComboAssassin20 on August 04, 2021, 12:48:17 pm
No doubt, it's Bao...

Seriously.
Remember this silhouette shape... The result will be totally different.
Just like everytime.

are you certain it's bao, it could be the sub-boss from the last game
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 04, 2021, 12:55:44 pm
No doubt, it's Bao...

Seriously.
Remember this silhouette shape... The result will be totally different.
Just like everytime.

are you certain it's bao, it could be the sub-boss from the last game

I was not seriously thinking it...

The shape we see now only give these hints.
-The character is possibly male.
-Possibly muscular.
-Certainly have 2 arms.
voilà, that's all.

Every other detail visible in the silhouette is freaking bullshit, I think.
We had the proof sooooo many times now...

If you remember Botan's "Fox" becoming Shermie's hand because of omitted details and massive edit of the silhouette aspects.
SNK makes fun of us to create the hype...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lichtbringer on August 04, 2021, 01:29:22 pm
I guess it is Nelson because of the pose and the thing that looks like an wristband or something.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: KOFHƎRO77 on August 04, 2021, 01:34:09 pm
Something in me says that its Gai Tendo,bit of a crazy assumption.His hands look thick as if the silhouette has gloves and it also looks like it has a cloak which Gai wore sometimes
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 04, 2021, 02:14:05 pm
would be cool to see gai tendoh back , especially when capcom introduced a knock version of john crowley and gai tendo as their last dlc character.

though his arms are a bit too buff for gai tendo , small for raiden and antonov ... my guess it's a new character. and if he's in the mexico team or in this case wrestling team then angel is free to join with former nests .... or maybe k9999 return confirmed?????
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 04, 2021, 03:53:38 pm
I guess it is Nelson because of the pose and the thing that looks like an wristband or something.

Nelson is the most likely candidate, the armband only points towards him. It would certainly be interesting if he is on the same team as Ramon and KoD.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on August 06, 2021, 01:11:29 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7wCfsgUcAMlZie?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on August 06, 2021, 01:42:34 am
it isnt kof15 buuut its snk vs capcom 2 remake  :coollove:
https://twitter.com/AndersonHalfeld/status/1422526703667191829
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 06, 2021, 03:39:35 am
it isnt kof15 buuut its snk vs capcom 2 remake  :coollove:
https://twitter.com/AndersonHalfeld/status/1422526703667191829

First off, its CvS, not SvC, this is an important distinction. Second, no, its not a remake, its just a fanmade gif.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on August 06, 2021, 03:42:31 am
it isnt kof15 buuut its snk vs capcom 2 remake  :coollove:
https://twitter.com/AndersonHalfeld/status/1422526703667191829

First off, its CvS, not SvC, this is an important distinction. Second, no, its not a remake, its just a fanmade gif.

Does all of this need to be on the KoF thread though
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 06, 2021, 04:29:49 am
No it doesn't it's all completely unrelated lol

Still cool tho.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on August 06, 2021, 08:45:54 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E76UzNWVgAQc27k.jpg)

https://mobile.twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1422739062163640320

Next reveal coming next week, 8/11

I did see quite a few guesses for Jin Fu-Ha from Art of Fighting 3.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 06, 2021, 08:56:58 am
Does all of this need to be on the KoF thread though
That is why I pointed out it was just a fanmade gif.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on August 06, 2021, 04:41:58 pm
Next reveal coming next week, 8/11
It seems to be Ralf, it's pretty obvious... with that, only gets Clark to get the Ikari team ensemble again... I'm still waiting for Angel to get the Mexico Team back (my main official team in XIV, even I learned how to play with Angel to get this team done)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 06, 2021, 04:51:06 pm
:nuttrox:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmlhLZOMwkE[/youtube]
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on August 06, 2021, 04:58:39 pm
Hahahaha, I forgot that Ralf and Clark were unlocked already XD

OK, maybe Jin FuHa is an option then
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 06, 2021, 05:27:28 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Well... Chris of all people already got in, and there's a new spot on the Psycho Soldiers team once again, which means... :lipsrsealed2:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on August 06, 2021, 05:39:28 pm
Oh yeah...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
:devil:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 06, 2021, 10:15:30 pm
Easy on the shota crap now
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on August 07, 2021, 11:41:48 am
Replace Chris with Shingo and Bao with Gai....
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on August 07, 2021, 11:44:12 am
Oh yeah...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
:devil:

(https://i.imgur.com/2qYYV3r.jpg)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 07, 2021, 04:52:45 pm
For real though, I don't expect this next silhouette to be anything more, nor less than Antonov.

Just watch as that pointy thing on the head magically transforms itself into a big & square cigar for his official portrait;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: D. HoChoy on August 07, 2021, 05:43:43 pm
It actually looks like an 8th gen game now.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on August 07, 2021, 05:44:44 pm
Watch as SNK troll the hell out of us and it's Transformed Tung... :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 07, 2021, 11:33:51 pm
if it's nelson teaming up with KoD and ramon then angel will either be with kula and whip or k' and maxima or better yet the return of k9999?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on August 08, 2021, 01:51:07 am
As much as I love and miss K9999, dude's absolutely never coming back. You should probably hope for Nameless instead. I also don't see why they would switch Nelson from Team Brazil to Team Mexico, nor do I see Angel, a former NESTS agent working with NESTS defectors.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 08, 2021, 02:05:58 am
nor do I see Angel, a former NESTS agent working with NESTS defectors.
I don't see Angel giving much of a shit about NESTS. She could team up with Sylvie as the lost puppies who don't know what to do with their powers in the real world. I'm hoping Nameless comes back with them and not K9999. Just straight up replace K9999 with Nameless as Angel's friend, or say Angel picked him up some time later (the Isolde backstory was fine but it's a real shame that they gave Nameless a typical edgy angsty personality).
That just leaves Mian and Kukri to find a team of their own, they're probably not the "official invitation team" anymore. If Mian doesn't get a backstory of her own, she can still team up with Antonov, being formerly hired by him, and Kukri I don't know but he has random potential links here and there.
(this is assuming Antonov isn't the instigator of this tournament of course)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 08, 2021, 04:01:31 am
nor do I see Angel, a former NESTS agent working with NESTS defectors.

Wait did you just say "I don't see a NESTS defector teaming up with other NESTS defectors"




Is that not literally K' and his team
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 08, 2021, 05:24:13 am
nor do I see Angel, a former NESTS agent working with NESTS defectors.

Wait did you just say "I don't see a NESTS defector teaming up with other NESTS defectors"




Is that not literally K' and his team

Different motivations.
K', Maxima and Kula have always been a "good" batch of NESTS agents. Though Kula did get a personality retcon as time went by...

Angel betrayed her own associates (Kula & Foxy) with K9999 in 2001 and never really redeemed herself from it.
So technically, she is a "defector" but with different reasons.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 08, 2021, 11:25:44 am
K', Maxima and Kula have always been a "good" batch of NESTS agents.
?? Absolutely not, K' and Maxima were "traitors" to NESTS since day 1.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on August 08, 2021, 02:43:58 pm

Wait did you just say "I don't see a NESTS defector teaming up with other NESTS defectors"




Is that not literally K' and his team

No: K', Maxima and Kula are defectors, Sylvie Paula Paula is an outright rejected experiment, and Angel no longer works for NESTS literally because NESTS no longer exists.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 08, 2021, 02:53:50 pm
K', Maxima and Kula have always been a "good" batch of NESTS agents.
?? Absolutely not, K' and Maxima were "traitors" to NESTS since day 1.



Yeah, I meant by "our" standards.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 08, 2021, 03:07:09 pm
Oh, you mean Angel is still supposed to be a bad guy even outside of NESTS and K'/Kula/Maxima are good guys ? I wouldn't think that matters, Kula might hold a bit of resentment from that ending at most, nothing more. But I just checked the wiki and apparently Angel's attack on Foxy isn't a canon ending ? So who knows, if SNK wants to put them in a team, there's nothing to say they wouldn't.
https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Angel#Story said:
During the final moments of the tournament, it is revealed that both Angel and K9999 are actually on a mission to kill Kula Diamond and her guardians.
While it is implied that Foxy is injured by them, this ending is considered non-canon. According to the 2001 novel, both she and K9999 disappear in the aftermath, with the latter never to be seen again.[2] However, in the games, it is instead implied that Angel stayed behind to try and destroy NESTS' base for good while K9999 left on one of the Ikari Warriors' helicopters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on August 08, 2021, 03:27:22 pm
As much as I love and miss K9999, dude's absolutely never coming back.
I love and miss k9999 too, but SNK erradicated from their existence for being a palleteswap of AKIRA's Tetsuo and eliminated him from canon to avoid copyright issues again. I went sad when every register of him was deleted from XIV's gallery, not even an artwork of him or where he appears is there (the illustration of Team NESTS is the only 2k1 team that has 3 members instead of four, and same with 2k2 with Kula and Foxy only). In-story, I assumed k9999 died during the events of 2k1 and only his 3 companions survived... and Nameless is not-canon, coming from an updated re-release of a Dream Match game...

For me, Angel will come back, but again as the Team Mexico, unless SNK revived someone from AOF3 (Fu-Ha?) and replaced her in the team
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on August 08, 2021, 05:36:33 pm
Nameless may be non-canon, but they can still very much use him and change that, if his appearance in KOFAS is anything to go by. Also, I didn't know they retconned Angel still being loyal to NESTS, especially since a lot of her dialogue in XIV is still kind of evil-ish, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's a definitive connection there.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 08, 2021, 06:26:11 pm
She can be a "kind of bad guy" even after ditching NESTS. Actually, I don't remember what dialog or scene might hint that she was still loyal to NESTS. Even in the retconned 01 endings, it just looked to me like she was running away with K9999 and didn't care about NESTS (K9999 was also getting on their bad side).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 08, 2021, 06:46:19 pm
Oh, you mean Angel is still supposed to be a bad guy even outside of NESTS and K'/Kula/Maxima are good guys ?

I wouldn't say that she's necessarily a "bad" character. Just because K' and his teammates were groomed to be likeable, sympathetic characters, it doesn't mean Angel is an evil one.
That said, Angel wasn't developed the same way K', Maxima and Kula were. K' had a terrible childhood, lost his sister, got bossed around by Krizalid and now is a fugitive. Maxima too. Kula lost her sister Candy, left her only home and is also a fugitive.

Angel is more of a realistic character than the trio. She's more serious & cautious of her path. K', Maxima and Kula are pretty one-dimensional regarding motivations & personalities.
Angel is too complex to team up with the other NESTS defectors. Maybe if K9999 (or Nameless) came back and Sylvie joins too, that'll be a different story.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 09, 2021, 10:10:42 am
Nameless may be non-canon, but they can still very much use him and change that, if his appearance in KOFAS is anything to go by. Also, I didn't know they retconned Angel still being loyal to NESTS, especially since a lot of her dialogue in XIV is still kind of evil-ish, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's a definitive connection there.

problem with nameless is he's a boring character and his back story is stupid.

k9999 is a shapeshifter they could just redesign him keep his personality and character.

i see angel and k9999 as chaotic evil . like yamazaki they could work for other big bosses for their benefit then ditch once they got what they want.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 09, 2021, 07:09:54 pm
The Best of Both Worlds:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 10, 2021, 01:08:50 am
Tetsuo K9999999999 is the one character we can say, with 100% absolute certainty, is never coming back, ever. Holding any kind of hope for him is setting yourself for disappointment.

I wouldn't say that she's necessarily a "bad" character. Just because K' and his teammates were groomed to be likeable, sympathetic characters, it doesn't mean Angel is an evil one.
That said, Angel wasn't developed the same way K', Maxima and Kula were. K' had a terrible childhood, lost his sister, got bossed around by Krizalid and now is a fugitive. Maxima too. Kula lost her sister Candy, left her only home and is also a fugitive.

Angel is more of a realistic character than the trio. She's more serious & cautious of her path. K', Maxima and Kula are pretty one-dimensional regarding motivations & personalities.
Angel is too complex to team up with the other NESTS defectors. Maybe if K9999 (or Nameless) came back and Sylvie joins too, that'll be a different story.

i see angel and k9999 as chaotic evil . like yamazaki they could work for other big bosses for their benefit then ditch once they got what they want.

Angel is a neutral character, she just does whatever she wants regardless of allegiances. As shown in the ANB manga, once NESTS was gone she just moved on, and her current arc has her trying to find her place in a post NESTS world (Ramon is mostly trying to push her in the right direction).

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 10, 2021, 01:25:19 am
Why do you say K99999999999999999's are chances so low?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 10, 2021, 01:40:10 am
Because SNK purged him with fire out of everything, even artworks and team portraits and everything they could, including galleries from later games that included artwork from his games. Bleached the absolute fuck out of him. I don't know if there actually is any legal fear in there, personally I would imagine they're fine with references and easter eggs but not an obvious 100% straight copy of something they don't own because quite frankly that's always been fucking stupid, who does that. But supposedly the staff has an "unspoken rule" about never naming him "for legal reason".

https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/K9999#Controversy_.26_Removal_from_the_series said:
SNK has expressed public disfavor for K9999 due to the explicitness of his tribute, such as:

Completely removing his Character Portrait and developer description off of the KOF website after The King of Fighters 2002 Unlimited Match released.
K9999's Character Portrait in "The King of Fighters Character Encyclopedia" (which features every character that appears throughout the series up to KOF XIII) is censored into a black silhouette.
All past artwork that featured K9999 was completely redacted from The King of Fighters XIV's Gallery, which also includes every artwork where he was paired up with other characters.
The character Nameless was later created to specifically represent and replace him in subsequent titles as a stand-in, starting with The King of Fighters 2002 Unlimited Match onwards.
K9999 was not mentioned or even included in The King of Fighters: A New Beginning manga and The King of Fighters All Star's 2001 story scenario, both of which depicts Angel being the only one to betray NESTS during the climax of the 2001 story.
...
Fio Lina, a member of Power Geyser, visited SNK Headquarters in 2019 to talk to Krispy Kaiser, SNK's community manager, about many SNK related questions, with K9999's fate in the series being one of them. According to Krispy Kaiser, there is an unspoken rule at the company that mentioning K9999 by name is strictly prohibited, and can only be mentioned by non-descriptive terms (i.e., "the one replaced by Nameless") for "legal reasons".
...
Considering all these factors, and according to Krispy Kaiser's words, "...it is safe to say that from now on, in any SNK game, he will never return".

can we stop pretending that he has any chance of showing his face ever again now ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 10, 2021, 02:34:06 am
I at least have the more realistic hope that they canonize Nameless and just pretend it was always him from the get-go... I mean yeah it's still unlikely but between that and K9999 coming back, my take on it is the more plausible one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 10, 2021, 03:20:38 am
All this talk about the fate of Mr. Fours and I'm over here wondering when Diana will ever be playable in anything.

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I don't know if there actually is any legal fear in there
After Oda acknowledged his existence to a fan question rather than shutting it down, I am not so sure.  More like extreme hate for how he came to be and rather just move on and pretend it never happened.

Even Travis at one of the All Stars livestreams had talked about K9999's chances in appearing in response to a chat question without any ramifications.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on August 10, 2021, 04:45:49 am
Tetsuo K9999999999 is the one character we can say, with 100% absolute certainty, is never coming back, ever. Holding any kind of hope for him is setting yourself for disappointment.

Indeed so... but I feel like Love Heart, as well as Mizoguchi, are close to that category. The company that acquired Love Heart and other SNK Pachinko material closed its doors in 2019 and has been liquidated, and I'm not sure if SNK are interested in tracking down the rights to her. Mizoguchi was always a guest on loan from G-Mode, and he mainly got in because the director of MI liked him.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on August 10, 2021, 09:17:11 am
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318794843293876235/874469738942705694/Photo-0129.png)

this is quite literally his most recent modern appearance and he can't even legally show his face.

he ain't coming back. ever.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 10, 2021, 09:34:13 am
Never saw the necessity to bring K9999 back, ever.
He's grotesque to look at and is quite a literal rip off of Tetsuo from Akira. Hommages are subtle, but not K9999 hahaha. GAKIDOMOOO

I prefer Nameless over him by miles.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on August 10, 2021, 02:16:08 pm
I always saw K9999 as a pretty awkward design. The yellow shirt, red scarf and crazy blue hair? Just did not sit right with me.
On the other hand, I always thought Nameless was a perfect badass.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on August 11, 2021, 02:50:59 am
can we stop pretending that he has any chance of showing his face ever again now ?
No, k∞9 will be always in our hearts, no matter if SNK forbids him forever (https://i.imgur.com/Jj9Deix.gif)

On the other hand, I always thought Nameless was a perfect badass.
Oh no, Nameless it's a NESTS Sasuke Uchiha with Krizalid's suit IMO



On another note and back with the thread, when is the next KOF reveal, it is tomorrow?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 11, 2021, 09:08:54 am
don't forget his girlfriend is his gloves lol.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on August 11, 2021, 05:14:36 pm
 More of a reason to get #MakeNamelessCanon in KOF onwards....
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 11, 2021, 05:48:53 pm
Wait, isn't he already canon?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 11, 2021, 06:01:34 pm
Wait, isn't he already canon?

AFAIK he's not -- he was introduced in KOF2002UM to replace K9999, but since that game is not canon, and Nameless hasn't appeared before or since, he's generally regarded as the "canonically non-canon character".

If he's been made canon through KOF All-Star or something then I'll stand corrected.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 11, 2021, 06:08:05 pm
Kofas uses him but not in the story section and there's no K9999 either. So no effect whatsoever.
We'll see if he ever makes it to canonically canon only when we see him.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 11, 2021, 06:26:45 pm
Tetsuo K9999999999 is the one character we can say, with 100% absolute certainty, is never coming back, ever. Holding any kind of hope for him is setting yourself for disappointment.

Indeed so... but I feel like Love Heart, as well as Mizoguchi, are close to that category.

It feels like we won't see neither Mizoguchi... nor every other MI character ever, honestly. :(
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on August 11, 2021, 06:48:41 pm
don't understand why anyone would want to see mizoguchi back, he's very generic.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 11, 2021, 06:58:29 pm
Nah, I've personally never bothered with Literally Shirtless Ryu guest.

But never again seeing a single trace of the original MI cast (and KOF-EX, for that matter) does kinda hurt, actually.

Even Capcom at least made some low-res profile pictures of their most forgotten chars or something... :[
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on August 11, 2021, 07:07:34 pm
AFAIK, Mizoguchi is non-canon, not just for being from another company (unless SNK applies the "ADK" and buy Data East/Fighter's History rights and add their chars into SNK universe), as Nameless he also appeared in a Dream Match game (Regulation-A is the KOF98/2002 of Maximum Impact series) so it doesn't count either

don't forget his girlfriend is his gloves lol.
:pfht:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 11, 2021, 09:24:17 pm
don't understand why anyone would want to see mizoguchi back, he's very generic.

he's like ryu but worse. plus who would want him when there's marco rodriguez.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 11, 2021, 09:37:24 pm
Considering we didn't see anything new in this game, I wouldn't rule out Maximum Impact characters yet. SNK isn't stupid, they're probably aware that those games had some relatively popular characters and it would be unwise to not try and salvage them. They DID add those obscure guest characters in KoFXIV and managed to revive SamSho entirely, so, bringing back characters from a dead spinoff wouldn't be impossible.

don't understand why anyone would want to see mizoguchi back, he's very generic.

he's like ryu but worse. plus who would want him when there's marco rodriguez.
I really hope they retcon his name into something that actually sounds portuguese if they bring him back, since the character is Brazilian. "Marco Rodriguez" is in Spanish, the appropriate name would be "Marcos Rodrigues", this is the same thing that happened to Bandeiras, who was called "Banderas" before the game's release.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lichtbringer on August 11, 2021, 11:20:30 pm
I don't care if they call him Marco or Marcos as long as they stop to call him Butt. Ö_Ö
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on August 11, 2021, 11:46:10 pm
Lorenzo Sangre says hiiiiiii !!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on August 11, 2021, 11:53:55 pm
(In Mexico, Angel is a MAN'S name ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on August 12, 2021, 01:00:14 am
(In Mexico, Angel is a MAN'S name ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )

That too! But she's an angel *_*!!

Also, Rey de los Dinosaurios.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on August 12, 2021, 02:30:25 am
Also, Rey de los Dinosaurios. Luchasaurus
ArrEgladoW
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 12, 2021, 02:34:21 am
don't understand why anyone would want to see mizoguchi back, he's very generic.

he's like ryu but worse. plus who would want him when there's marco rodriguez.

He's nothing like Ryu, he was based off an anime character (Momotaro from Sakigake Otokojuku).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on August 12, 2021, 03:21:34 am
I prefer anyone from Fighter's History rather than Fight Fever.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on August 12, 2021, 03:46:01 am
Imagine having someone like Karnov as playable lol.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on August 12, 2021, 04:03:21 am
What does this mean for Angel?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on August 12, 2021, 04:07:13 am


Antonov formed a wrestling team with Ramon and KOD...

I expected someone pudgier
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 12, 2021, 04:12:20 am
I

absolutely

LOVE THIS.

I unironically love everything about this.

Cause this also means Angel and K9999 team /s
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on August 12, 2021, 04:18:14 am
Man, letting his hair grow out a bit and adding in a cowboy hat really breathed a bit of fresh air into Antonov's design.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on August 12, 2021, 04:20:40 am
(https://c.tenor.com/3vjjhaT7-x4AAAAC/deception-white-chicks.gif)
I felt like this when I saw the trailer... but then it makes sense since Antonov had lost KOF but found members to make his own league. And I agree this new look refresh his character (but I still thinking he's the Russian buffed Mr. Satan of the series)

This leaves me with hope for these teams:
-As seen in her special ending (https://64.media.tumblr.com/57ad3dbcc7c7dadc8662ed746df90299/tumblr_ocjelfY7FB1v1djr3o1_1280.jpg), Angel would join Kula and Sylvie to make the real Team NESTS Girls
-With Kula out, enters Whip to complete the Team K'

I hope this time SNK wouldn't shater my expectations of this :doom:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 12, 2021, 04:30:07 am
Wrestling team is something I never realized I wanted especially with a now Texan Russian that speaks Japanese as the head of it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 12, 2021, 04:44:56 am
lol he looks much like Hulk Hogan now isn't it?  :yaoming: it is also "coincidentally" that his trailer released on Hulk Hogan's birthday as well brotha :pfht:

-With Kula out, enters Whip to complete the Team K'
They might be hunting for the revive krizalid
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Seadragon77 on August 12, 2021, 04:54:26 am
Well, that came out of nowhere.. then again, I did think Antonov does make for a good pro wrestler with his actions and mannerisms coming from the last game.

Maybe he used whatever money he had after the fallout from KOF XIV to make his own wrestling organization and two of the guys in there are Ramon and King of Dinosaurs.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 12, 2021, 04:59:07 am
lol he looks much like Hulk Hogan now isn't it?  :yaoming: it is also "coincidentally" that his trailer released on Hulk Hogan's birthday as well brotha :pfht:

Actually he looks way more like Macho Man Randy Savage to me lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 12, 2021, 06:54:31 am
Antonov is like the only few characters who I liked in KOF XIV. Good to see him back.
The surprise is that Angel is no longer part of Team Mexico. Wonder where she'll end up.



So... according to my sources, we only have K' who's not made the official trailer list and the rest of the cast is unknown.
Also, all 9 teams have now been filled.
We're still missing a few classics though like Team NESTS, Team Korea and etc.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 12, 2021, 06:57:50 am
... holy hell I didn't even realize such a classic character like Kim has yet to be revealed.



...... his fucking pants better be worth the wait.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on August 12, 2021, 07:59:38 am
I had a growing suspicion that there'd be a Team Wrestling of sorts and this puts it to bed. Antonov feels like a random choice though, especially with the Team Name.

Also, all 9 teams have now been filled.
We're still missing a few classics though like Team NESTS, Team Korea and etc.

Seeing that XIV had 16 teams, there's still hundreds of possibilities
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 12, 2021, 08:44:49 am
some short stories of G.A.W that I saw: https://twitter.com/SNK_Lover/status/1425640728219295749

Actually he looks way more like Macho Man Randy Savage to me lol
Seems to be the mega power brotha ;D

... holy hell I didn't even realize such a classic character like Kim has yet to be revealed.

...... his fucking pants better be worth the wait.
my oversea cousin might be pissed if his belove kim is not in, well anyway he is already pissed with the past prequels already due to the gameplay since the last time i met him :-\

I had a growing suspicion that there'd be a Team Wrestling of sorts and this puts it to bed. Antonov feels like a random choice though, especially with the Team Name.
I would thought Antonov would join Mian and Sylvie knowing that he will return in the sequel  :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 12, 2021, 09:22:34 am
WOOOOW!! He have such an interesting design!
I really hated his previous uninspired "blonde gorilla" design in KOF XIV. This one really bring something fresh!

Very good news to see him in a wrestlers team!

BUT... what about Angel??
Seems like we will have to wait even longer to see her in action... If she even make it to be an actual character in this game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on August 12, 2021, 09:32:55 am
MACHO MAAAAN RANDY SAVAGE ANTANOV LETS GO
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on August 12, 2021, 12:42:42 pm
They have revealed characters that haven't been in KOF for a while along with the regulars but not a character that is either brand new or new to KOF yet. 
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: D.R.B on August 12, 2021, 01:18:23 pm
BUT... what about Angel??
Seems like we will have to wait even longer to see her in action... If she even makes it to be an actual character in this game.

My guess is that she will either team up with Kula and Sylvie to form their own team or simply won't make it into the game unless as DLC or not at all.

that being said seems no one wondering how well this affects the already existing team like The Orochi trio team, Having Antov as a regular character after debating as a boss in the previous game is a real shaker to me.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on August 12, 2021, 01:47:35 pm
Antonov is looking pretty good. He was without a doubt my favourite newcomer to KoF14, so I'm really glad to see him back. Only leaves Xanadu left.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 12, 2021, 04:06:25 pm
For real though, I don't expect this next silhouette to be anything more, nor less than Antonov.

Just watch as that pointy thing on the head magically transforms itself into a big & square cigar for his official portrait;

At least it wasn't 100% as ridiculous as I suggested - it was a cowbow hat and not a cigar, in the end.

But still, Jesus... No wonder Geese Howard probably won't show up until a really good while on this; these silhouettes have been the most PREDICTABO shit in ages... ¬¬

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on August 12, 2021, 05:00:32 pm
MACHO MAAAAN RANDY SAVAGE ANTANOV LETS GO

Hehe pretty much that. :v

At first, i laughed. But i really like this new Russian Cowboy look for Antonov and looks like his moveset is damn cool. I dig this team formation.

Like Basara said, that opens a possibility for something that people around many SNK forums and groups are predicting, a new NESTS (or Anti-NESTS) Team (Kula, Angel and Sylvie) and Whip returning to K' Team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on August 12, 2021, 06:45:38 pm
I expected him Mian and Sylvie...but this is ok!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 12, 2021, 07:58:09 pm
new NESTS (or Anti-NESTS) Team (Kula, Angel and Sylvie) and Whip returning to K' Team.
I don't know why people think Kula could break off K's team ? I'll sooner see Whip join Angel and Sylvie and leave Kula where she is.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: EveryonesKouhai on August 12, 2021, 08:23:10 pm
in the kof xiv manga nests can brainwash some of their former operatives, which included angel and kula. the kof xiv manga is canon btw
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on August 12, 2021, 10:45:34 pm
Having Antov as a regular character after debating as a boss in the previous game is a real shaker to me.

Not really, it's not the first time they've done it.
Rugal(95 playable via code, 98/94Re normal character), Chizuru(97 normal character) and Adel(XI Time locked/unlockable character)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on August 13, 2021, 12:25:46 am
I honestly wanted the return of Raiden, but this is a very nice welcome back. Seems like Antov defeat didn't phase his confidence. He was made to be part of wrestling.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 13, 2021, 01:29:58 am
in the kof xiv manga nests can brainwash some of their former operatives, which included angel and kula. the kof xiv manga is canon btw

Its not.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 13, 2021, 06:11:31 am
Just 35-70 more weeks, everybody...

Then finally, every fighter from KOFXIV will be properly ported, and we can have a legitimately brand new character reveal! :smug3::goi:

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 13, 2021, 09:23:30 am
i'm just gonna wait til they announce k9999 and angel.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on August 13, 2021, 11:09:55 am
K9999 is never coming back.

That's literally what Nameless was made for.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 13, 2021, 11:56:40 am
Sad thing is, even Nameless hasn't made an official return in 12 years. (excluding KOF AS)

I just realized 02UM was released in 2009!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on August 13, 2021, 01:45:27 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8or-u6VEAQwGGn?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 13, 2021, 03:28:05 pm
Nice artwork... He definitely look better than before.

But wait, the smoke comes from his ears ? ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 13, 2021, 05:26:11 pm
Not really, it's not the first time they've done it.
Rugal(95 playable via code, 98/94Re normal character), Chizuru(97 normal character) and Adel(XI Time locked/unlockable character)
and saisyu in 94re, 95 via code, 98 and neowave

I honestly wanted the return of Raiden, but this is a very nice welcome back. Seems like Antov defeat didn't phase his confidence. He was made to be part of wrestling.
he could have team up with k.o.d and ramon too which makes sense tbh :mlol: if only suddenly the director decide to change it to four men team  :lipsrsealed2:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on August 13, 2021, 07:43:09 pm
and saisyu in 94re, 95 via code, 98 and neowave
Technically, Saisyu wasn't playable in the next game after his boss debut which is what I was listing. Otherwise, we have to put Kula on that list as well.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on August 13, 2021, 08:51:35 pm
Kula is a sub-boss in 2000 and selectable normally in 2001.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on August 13, 2021, 09:55:37 pm
Kula is selectable in 2000 via code.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 19, 2021, 09:39:45 pm
KoF XV will show up at Gamescom 2021 next Wednesday, August 25th

• https://mobile.twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1427812500742053888 (https://mobile.twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1427812500742053888)


This time I'm crossing my fingers for it to have something big...! :ninja: (perhaps a fighter that hasn't been around for a good while)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on August 21, 2021, 06:28:00 pm
Yo, the KoF XV boxart accidently got leaked, and it shows two more veterans as well as two brand new characters!
Spoiler: leaked boxart (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 21, 2021, 06:33:00 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

2/17 is the supposed release date
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: no1wammy on August 21, 2021, 07:41:16 pm
Spoiler: "More like wondering" (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 21, 2021, 07:51:55 pm
Yo, the KoF XV boxart accidently got leaked, and it shows two more veterans as well as two brand new characters!
Spoiler: leaked boxart (click to see content)
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 21, 2021, 08:01:05 pm
The temptation to click is very powerful... but I must resist. T_T
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 21, 2021, 09:26:54 pm
Oh well...
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I hope this means we will get an official gameplay trailer soon enough.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on August 21, 2021, 10:24:10 pm
Spoiler: "More like wondering" (click to see content)

Nowadays, if that DOES indeed happen, she might be done as a solo DLC character instead, which wasn't possible back in 2003.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on August 22, 2021, 12:27:04 am
We also got to see the UI finally! It looks really good!
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on August 22, 2021, 01:20:28 am
The power gauge looks like a keep-out tape that the police use. That leak is problematic but at least the roster is safe for now.  SNK might have to go into damage control. This isn't new it happened last time and it was the whole roster.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fighters/comments/p8pyc9/the_king_of_fighters_xv_mainvisual_japanese/

As for the release date could be a placeholder.

This site is the reason for the leaks. This store was released by mistake
https://www.yodobashi.com/product/100000001006419557/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 22, 2021, 01:31:34 am
Spoiler: UI thoughts (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 22, 2021, 01:47:51 am
Spoiler: "More like wondering" (click to see content)

Nowadays, if that DOES indeed happen, she might be done as a solo DLC character instead, which wasn't possible back in 2003.

Haha, no, no way in hell they'll keep her out of the game, not with the way they've been pushing her.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kkhohoho on August 22, 2021, 04:07:11 am
The power gauge looks like a keep-out tape that the police use. That leak is problematic but at least the roster is safe for now.  SNK might have to go into damage control. This isn't new it happened last time and it was the whole roster.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fighters/comments/p8pyc9/the_king_of_fighters_xv_mainvisual_japanese/

As for the release date could be a placeholder.

This site is the reason for the leaks. This store was released by mistake
https://www.yodobashi.com/product/100000001006419557/

I kind of don't want it to be safe? With every character revealed, I go back and forth between thinking the game will have a large roster, or it'll cut corners because of the enhanced graphics. At this point, I want to know exactly what we're getting so I can stop being frustrated about it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on August 22, 2021, 04:38:54 am
This time they haven't cut corners I feel this time they made a good first impression.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kkhohoho on August 22, 2021, 05:22:04 am
It's cutting corners if they're downscaling the roster from last game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on August 22, 2021, 06:42:16 am
They haven't revealed the final starting roster yet.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on August 22, 2021, 06:53:13 am
It's cutting corners if they're downscaling the roster from last game.

It's really not.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 22, 2021, 09:09:31 am
It's cutting corners if they're downscaling the roster from last game.

It's really not.

Actually, it is. We can see that they're reusing assets from KoF XIV. All returning characters from that game have the same models and animations, with minor adjustments. Reducing the roster is definitely cutting corners when you're copying and pasting stuff from the previous game, unless they add a LOT of new characters (or characters returning from pre-XVI games).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on August 22, 2021, 11:56:30 am
who said theyre reducing the roster
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on August 22, 2021, 03:09:06 pm
This is just a case of jumping to conclusions. Some new characters have been revealed some brand new, regulars, and some that haven't been in KOF for a while.

Anyway here's the key visual of the box art

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Don't forget there is a possibility of extra characters and stages as DLC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kkhohoho on August 22, 2021, 05:27:10 pm
Team Japan isn't a thing. Same with Team Yagami. No Team Mexico, so maybe no Angel. Athena left the Psycho Soldiers, so maybe no Kensou or Chin. And if Heidern, Ash, and K' are a team, then that possibly means no Whip, no Elizabeth (because her and Ash teaming up after XIII&XIV would make the most sense), and no Kula&Maxima.

Maybe I am jumping to conclusions, but it's hard not to when they keep shuffling the roster around and leave us in suspense.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 22, 2021, 05:30:47 pm
who said theyre reducing the roster
No one said "they're reducing the roster". One guy is saying "I'm afraid the enhanced graphics mean they'll cut corners <=> they'll reduce the roster". It's one person saying they're afraid it'll end up like that, not that it's going to happen.
Team Japan isn't a thing. Same with Team Yagami. No Team Mexico, so maybe no Angel. Athena left the Psycho Soldiers, so maybe no Kensou or Chin. And if Heidern, Ash, and K' are a team, then that possibly means no Whip, no Elizabeth, and no Kula&Maxima.
That, though, is WAY overthinking it. While I personally wouldn't mind Chin getting the boot, it's ridiculous to imagine Heidern, Ash and K' are a team just because they appear next to each other on the box art.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on August 24, 2021, 04:27:40 am
Team Japan isn't a thing. Same with Team Yagami. No Team Mexico, so maybe no Angel. Athena left the Psycho Soldiers, so maybe no Kensou or Chin. And if Heidern, Ash, and K' are a team, then that possibly means no Whip, no Elizabeth (because her and Ash teaming up after XIII&XIV would make the most sense), and no Kula&Maxima.

Maybe I am jumping to conclusions, but it's hard not to when they keep shuffling the roster around and leave us in suspense.

K' being in a different team doesn't mean Kula and Maxima are gone. They can just stick Whip with them instead. And even if that isn't the case, they're still not going to drop Kula since she's one of the more popular KOF characters. They might just make a Nests Girls team with Angel and Sylvie for that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 24, 2021, 05:39:34 am
Got spoiled so I'm gonna throw in my two cents -- I think, since all the DLC is basically coming back to the canon in this game, Whip is probably on K' Team with K' and Maxima. Kula, Angel, and maybe Foxy could form NESTS Team/NESTS Girls Team/NESTS Rebels Team/idfk team.

Heidern being back... Masters Team returns, maybe?

Ash/Elisabeth/Oswald for a team most likely.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on August 24, 2021, 08:22:12 pm
We haven't really seen any evil teams so far yet, right? Here's hoping for Geese Howard soon.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 24, 2021, 10:19:21 pm
I cannot say, but I feel like they will show :
-1 classic character
-1 new character
-a bit of gameplay with already shown characters
-perhaps officially the box art.

just a guess... And I'm not good for that.

I would love to see Angel, but I think it's not her turn yet.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 24, 2021, 10:29:49 pm
We haven't really seen any evil teams so far yet, right?

Well... there's the Orochi Team, which is more on the ambiguous side than anything so far.

Geese Howard will most surely be in, even if only by DLC.



Inb4 Ash returning with a brand new "Team Kicked Out From Timeline!" along him:

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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 24, 2021, 11:20:48 pm
Ash/Elisabeth/Kukri for Ash Team and Heidern/Oswald/??? for…. Assassin Team? Idk.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 25, 2021, 07:59:14 pm
trailer from gamescom 2021: https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2021/aug/25/kof15-release-roster-ash-newcomers/

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 25, 2021, 08:09:05 pm
39 base characters... oof, a major blow. KOF was always known for its massive roster, but I guess they wanted to put quality over quantity so I'll let it slide.
The new characters in 3D look very Maximum Impact-ish and that's pretty cool. I like the black chick especially.

But seriously... No Mature & Vice, Team Korea still???
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on August 25, 2021, 08:17:03 pm
Official trailer
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Seadragon77 on August 25, 2021, 08:44:35 pm
39 characters means there are 13 teams involved and from the last character reveal, they're at 9 teams now. So, who is left to fill in the remaining four teams?

Pretty sure the two new characters shown off here are on a team. K' is on a team. Ash will be on a team (for some godforsaken reason..) and there are boss characters to throw in as well.

It sure seems like there aren't a lot of openings left outside of the DLC, which means at least two more teams will be involved.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 25, 2021, 08:56:03 pm
K’/Whip/Heidern, Ash/Elisabeth/Oswald (or Kukri)

I’m at least calling that. Yellow Rival Girl is probably head of Rivals Team too. Who knows.

Weird that they didn’t show off Heidern gameplay. Probably still in development.

Also where the hell is Kim?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on August 25, 2021, 09:43:29 pm
That important feature that's needed for online mode is rollback netcode is confirmed! They really improved the presentation.  The roster may be cut down but it is still more than the upcoming and recent fighting games put together. The roster can build up with DLC. There is no confirmation that the game is running on Unreal Engine 5. I will try to ask them but it is a good chance that it is confirmed.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on August 25, 2021, 09:44:28 pm
300 tracks in the DJ Station? I'm VERY happy at that, but I really hope that some of the AST versions are in there. The '96 AST was utterly amazing!

Also, Rollback. I'm glad SNK delayed the release, it's actually shaping up to be rather epic... although I know I might be in a minority here, but ugh.. Masami Obari again? Noooo... lol  All the characters are going to be 70% legs. :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on August 25, 2021, 09:53:27 pm
39 base characters... oof, a major blow. KOF was always known for its massive roster, but I guess they wanted to put quality over quantity so I'll let it slide.
39 is still quite a lot but it seems pathetic compared to the 50 in KOF14. All is forgiven if Silber is included in the first season pass though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 25, 2021, 10:02:08 pm
Either reuse Kim's assets and be hunted down for still not animating his pants correctly or keep him off the roster until you finally animate it and then add him back as DLC.  Madness.

Hope some tracks from KOF All Stars make it in the DJ.  Nameless' theme is a must.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on August 25, 2021, 10:03:41 pm
There are 52 character slots in the character select screen, they're already planning for this much dlc?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on August 25, 2021, 10:07:21 pm
I was just gonna say that! Two of them are planned for future release via DLC, and one is the final boss.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on August 25, 2021, 10:16:56 pm
Pouring one out for Kensou as we speak...Angel may still have a chance to land on the base roster.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 26, 2021, 12:06:50 am
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39 characters
omfg lol talk about cutting corners
Is Heidern going to be in the team with the two new girls in that top right corner of the select screen then ? I don't really see him with either Ash or K'.
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classic costumes as DLC
Now there's gonna be work done on that because money
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on August 26, 2021, 12:38:44 am
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classic costumes as DLC

At least they are not cosplaying as potential characters or long dead or dormant IP. The classic outfits are alright some original ones would be great too.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kkhohoho on August 26, 2021, 12:40:11 am
I hate to say I told you so... but I told you so.

The game looks better than XIV, Rollback Netcode is a major plus, and the DLC dulls the sting a bit. But the game cut corners, and it's easy to see why.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 26, 2021, 02:16:42 am
(https://i.imgur.com/dFwb6M3.png)

No Heidern or the glasses lady on the select screen. Hmmnnnn....... :thinking:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on August 26, 2021, 02:58:37 am
Shun Ei
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 26, 2021, 03:08:53 am
Gotta say though. Huge props to SNK. The game finally looks like a 9th gen console game.
All they need to work on now is their animations. Shits still choppy AF.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 26, 2021, 05:43:31 am
I did a roster prediction based on what we've seen so far: https://twitter.com/MagmaMKII/status/1430635789038366728
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 26, 2021, 08:33:11 am
I did a roster prediction based on what we've seen so far: https://twitter.com/MagmaMKII/status/1430635789038366728

Verse as boss again? Why do you think so?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 26, 2021, 09:34:28 am
the new boss is literally in the key poster.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 26, 2021, 10:06:54 am
One of the dlc team might be Team Orochi in their Oroch form, no doubt? everyone loves seeing their orochi form.

Anyway, the first team story, Team Hero:
https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/kof-xv/teams/

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 26, 2021, 10:57:06 am
One of the dlc team might be Team Orochi in their Oroch form, no doubt? everyone loves seeing their orochi form.

Yes, I think so.
I personally prefer their normal version... but yes, many fans like evil/orochi etc stuff...

Also... if SNK can save time and money with these 3 characters with minimum editing, they'll go for it, of course.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mgbenz on August 26, 2021, 02:24:32 pm
R.I.P Daimon.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 26, 2021, 02:51:57 pm
R.I.P Daimon.

Yes... for the moment... But I feel like eventually, after 2-3 years of life, the game roster will count most of characters from KOF XIV.
Perhaps not some "newcomers" like Mui Mui, Love Heart...

But I'm pretty sure Daimon will be in the final roster. But certainly not day one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on August 26, 2021, 03:15:11 pm
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/796911886209122315/880256973059268608/Screenshot_20210825-220537.jpg)
that's King of Dinosaurs for ya
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 26, 2021, 03:17:52 pm
the new boss is literally in the key poster.

Its literally Verse in a new form. You can see him transforming in the trailer.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 26, 2021, 03:22:20 pm

Also... if SNK can save time and money with these 3 characters with minimum editing, they'll go for it, of course.
pretty sure  ;D and also, heidern and his team might be one of the dlc team?

Is Heidern going to be in the team with the two new girls in that top right corner of the select screen then ? I don't really see him with either Ash or K'.
Weird that they didn’t show off Heidern gameplay. Probably still in development.
(https://i.imgur.com/dFwb6M3.png)
No Heidern or the glasses lady on the select screen. Hmmnnnn....... :thinking:
I have a feeling that Heidern might team up with Adel and Seth, why? because of Rugal being revived and those three especially Adel and Heidern are in search for him? Speaking of that, I wonder what about those other revived fighters such as krizalid, igniz, gaidel and mizuki rashojin? one of the dlc or in the next installment?

Also where the hell is Kim?
My oversea cousin is gonna be upset that his belove kim is not in, anyway he is already disappointed after kof2002 onwards mainly because of the gameplay from the last time i saw him even though his belove kim was in
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on August 26, 2021, 03:28:11 pm
Shun Ei
[youtube]https://youtu.be/02xadS-yWb0[/youtube]

his levels one are so lame because he literally has two hands flying behind him.! Snk of course he has to throw fireballs why :/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 26, 2021, 06:40:02 pm
You can see him transforming in the trailer.
No ? You see Verse in the flashback to the XIV ending where he blows up and all the souls are freed, then you see the story segment with Shun'ei and the two girls who obviously have the same magic hands power as Shun'ei and Verse, and one of them is almost certainly the one in blue blowing up that Shun'ei tries to save.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on August 26, 2021, 09:04:03 pm
One of the dlc team might be Team Orochi in their Oroch form, no doubt? everyone loves seeing their orochi form.
I hope not because that would be incredibly stupid.

If they get their Orochi forms, it will be unlockable, not through DLC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 26, 2021, 10:37:31 pm
Well XIII had alt forms as DLC so it isn't that much of a stretch.  Still a dumb decision if they do go that route.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Aldo on August 27, 2021, 02:56:08 am
Expectations definitely shattered, the rollback confirmation is such a big relief, and goddamn the UI in general looks amazing  :D

39 definitely a lesser number than before but overall it is still one of the biggest KOF in terms of base roster, only KOF2001 edging out, so still a really nice amount and still beating all the recent titles in launch numbers. Great!

Very hype, really looking forward to more!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 27, 2021, 04:43:12 am
I hope not because that would be incredibly stupid.

If they get their Orochi forms, it will be unlockable, not through DLC.
Well XIII had alt forms as DLC so it isn't that much of a stretch.  Still a dumb decision if they do go that route.
well, we shall see in the end.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on August 27, 2021, 11:22:52 am
The roster is decent and we do miss like Kim and the other KOF fighters. But other than that, not bad.

Also, be aware if the final boss will not be playable at some point like Kukri in SNK Heroines or Dural in VF5: Disappointment Showdown.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 27, 2021, 11:44:59 am
Any chances for bonus characters?
I know everything's about money money money nowadays, but I wish SNK would give us some single player unlockables that would make the story progression worthwhile.
Maybe Orochi team, NESTS Kyo, Flameless Iori or smth.

I miss the days when console versions got their exclusive characters as opposed to arcades.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 27, 2021, 12:23:43 pm
Any chances for bonus characters?
I know everything's about money money money nowadays, but I wish SNK would give us some single player unlockables that would make the story progression worthwhile.
Maybe Orochi team, NESTS Kyo, Flameless Iori or smth.

I miss the days when console versions got their exclusive characters as opposed to arcades.

Me too.
I feel the same.

But I'm pretty sure the Orochi version team will be a lazy DLC... This is 2021...(I mean 2022)...
Even alternates like Nest Kyo etc. will certainly be DLC later... If they ever exist.

Earlier, someone asked if Heidern can be DLC.
I don't think so, since he is on the game cover. It would be so freaking horrible if they do something like that.
Even if I'm sure this kind of situation exists in some game.

By seeing the roster so "low" , 39 characters, I feel less relax about the upcoming characters trailers.
Not so many availiable slots for the Day one version of the game, so, I hope they will not betray us...
But sure, they'll have a strategy to put some iconic characters as DLC...
But I want Kim in the vanilla version of the game ^^ (and Angel, Geese too...)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 27, 2021, 03:26:53 pm
It would just be so wrong if Kim and Kula weren't in the base roster.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kkhohoho on August 27, 2021, 04:03:12 pm
I mean, it wouldn't be the first time they pulled something like this. Robert, Mai, Leona and Joe all got the ax in XI. The home port added the first two back in, but the last two were stuck in the bleachers.

Maybe they thought Kim needed a break?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 27, 2021, 05:54:21 pm
Kim not being at launch is very surprising as he was in every mainline KoF title since its inception.  Just doesn't feel right or maybe they really can't do the pants animation correctly after all.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on August 27, 2021, 06:56:05 pm
They even hasn't revealed the full roster to talk about if king wont be in the roster.xD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 27, 2021, 06:57:46 pm
When he comes out as DLC I hope they make his pants flat as a board.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on August 27, 2021, 07:53:17 pm
When he comes out as DLC I hope they make his pants flat as a board.

yes DLCs are more accurate than the base roster
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 27, 2021, 09:32:36 pm
Maybe he will have no pants.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on August 27, 2021, 10:05:25 pm
I'm gonna flip if Kim doesn't make it but fucking Luong does. Shattering my expectations expecting Kim and Kensou to return alright.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lichtbringer on August 27, 2021, 11:15:59 pm
Mhhh at the begining of the trailer they show pictures from previous KoF Sagas for a quick moment, do you think the chosen pictures have a meaning for the current game or a they just there for the nostalgia factor?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 28, 2021, 02:10:43 pm
Heidern, kim and takuma as father team could be possible too  :P

anyway, for all your wallpapers, icons etc need: https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/official/kof-xv/special/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 28, 2021, 06:37:46 pm
So, people have been gathering every possible information from those Bellamy's fighter interviews, and... there have been quite some interesting stuff to mention from there:
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on August 28, 2021, 09:09:01 pm
So, people have been gathering every possible information from those Bellamy's fighter interviews, and... there have been quite some interesting stuff to mention from there:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

That doesn't necessarily rule him out as a DLC/bonus character, even if he's not in the base roster.
They could do a team with him, Shingo, & Saisyu.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on August 29, 2021, 12:56:34 pm
*still sad about Kensou being cut from the roster*
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on August 30, 2021, 04:14:02 am
Maybe they will make Diana Diamond playable officially for the first time.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 30, 2021, 05:50:45 am
I wonder if the DLCs are going to be single entries or complete teams.

There's just so many wasted characters and assets from the previous game alone.
- Kensou
- Kim
- Gang-Il
- Mature
- Vice
- Zarina
- Xanadu
- Sylvie
- Kukri
- Mian
- Nelson
- Bandeiras
- Hein
- Alice (I literally can't believe Alice isn't in XV. She was so popular.)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2021, 08:52:30 am
I wonder if the DLCs are going to be single entries or complete teams.
The first DLC pack is two full teams, and the select screen shows 4 teams and one single entry on the top row that's definitely meant for DLC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 30, 2021, 09:16:04 am
I wonder if the DLCs are going to be single entries or complete teams.

There's just so many wasted characters and assets from the previous game alone.
- Kensou
- Kim
- Gang-Il
- Mature
- Vice
- Zarina
- Xanadu
- Sylvie
- Kukri
- Mian
- Nelson
- Bandeiras
- Hein
- Alice (I literally can't believe Alice isn't in XV. She was so popular.)

I'm pretty much thinking the same.
Beside the fact I don't like these 2 cahracters.
- Xanadu
- Sylvie

But perhaps, it's a way to get more money later with another set of DLC.
BTW, I would love Mian to have a redesign.

But I have no regret for MuiMui or Love Heart...

Are there some upcoming anouncements ? I didn't followed more after the last "big" trailer.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 30, 2021, 09:51:40 am
I really hope the DLC doesn't have any returning characters. Like, they took out the characters from the roster and then just copy-paste them (just like they did with most of this roster) and sell it for an extra price? Hell no, only new stuff.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 30, 2021, 11:03:19 am
I really hope the DLC doesn't have any returning characters. Like, they took out the characters from the roster and then just copy-paste them (just like they did with most of this roster) and sell it for an extra price? Hell no, only new stuff.

Popular characters sell.

Mortal Kombat 11 mostly brought back old fan favorites like Mileena, Rain, Fujin, Sheeva, Sindel, Nightwolf, Shang Tsung. Never really a new face except for guest characters.
Street Fighter is quite similar since many of the new faces were badly received like Abigail & Luke.
KOF isn't going to be any different. 90% of the roster we've seen are old faces and I doubt people will not pay for classic characters like Kim or Kensou even if they return as DLC characters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on August 30, 2021, 12:51:51 pm
Popular characters sell.

Mortal Kombat 11 mostly brought back old fan favorites like Mileena, Rain, Fujin, Sheeva, Sindel, Nightwolf, Shang Tsung. Never really a new face except for guest characters.
Street Fighter is quite similar since many of the new faces were badly received like Abigail & Luke.
KOF isn't going to be any different. 90% of the roster we've seen are old faces and I doubt people will not pay for classic characters like Kim or Kensou even if they return as DLC characters.

except considering that the DLC is confirmed to be full teams instead of single characters, I highly doubt Kensou will return as DLC...
...that, and you said that popular character sell, and if anything, Kensou would sadly do the opposite of sell because...well, let's face it:
while Athena is already as extremely divisive as she is, every single other Psycho Soldier member is generally hated by the majority.
So yeah, I don't see Kensou becoming DLC, which is sad, because I am one of the few people who actually likes Kensou.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 30, 2021, 03:30:23 pm
Its clear these two DLC teams were meant to be on the base roster. They were probably moved to DLC so that they wouldn't have to delay the game even further.

Also remember that the characters will be sold as a team, not individually, and since they've been integrating the XIV newcomers with popular characters this will probably happen with the DLC as well.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 30, 2021, 04:38:42 pm
That's right... they will be Team DLC;

You can be almost sure in each team one character will be audience's favourite and the other ones perhaps less the favs.
At least, I imagine something like that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 30, 2021, 04:40:12 pm
So, people have been gathering every possible information from those Bellamy's fighter interviews, and... there have been quite some interesting stuff to mention from there:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Speaking of that, there are some teams that have already had the interviews with Bellamy such as Team Heroes, Team Sacred Treasures, Team Fatal Fury and the latest, Team Orochi. If anyone is interested in reading, follow Power Geyser on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/teampowergeyser some of them are funny to read
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 30, 2021, 05:34:04 pm
I really hope the DLC doesn't have any returning characters. Like, they took out the characters from the roster and then just copy-paste them (just like they did with most of this roster) and sell it for an extra price? Hell no, only new stuff.

Popular characters sell.

Mortal Kombat 11 mostly brought back old fan favorites like Mileena, Rain, Fujin, Sheeva, Sindel, Nightwolf, Shang Tsung. Never really a new face except for guest characters.
Street Fighter is quite similar since many of the new faces were badly received like Abigail & Luke.
KOF isn't going to be any different. 90% of the roster we've seen are old faces and I doubt people will not pay for classic characters like Kim or Kensou even if they return as DLC characters.

You're missing the point. Mortal Kombat characters didn't have the same gameplay for several games now, all those characters you mentioned play absolutely nothing like they did in their previous playable appearance. KoF XV is literally copying and pasting stuff from KoF XIV, which means that, if the DLC is returning characters, you're literally buying something you already had in the previous game, but now, for an extra price.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 30, 2021, 06:08:26 pm
So, people have been gathering every possible information from those Bellamy's fighter interviews, and... there have been quite some interesting stuff to mention from there:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Speaking of that, there are some teams that have already had the interviews with Bellamy such as Team Heroes, Team Sacred Treasures, Team Fatal Fury and the latest, Team Orochi. If anyone is interested in reading, follow Power Geyser on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/teampowergeyser some of them are funny to read
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Oh, interesting!
I'll check!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 30, 2021, 07:16:38 pm
You're missing the point. Mortal Kombat characters didn't have the same gameplay for several games now, all those characters you mentioned play absolutely nothing like they did in their previous playable appearance.

You can kinda say the same for SFV as well. Call their DLC choices bland, weird or annoying, but you can't deny that pretty much all of them, even the returners, aways had at least a handful of new moves that drastically sets their gameplay apart from the base roster - and even their own selves in previous games.

In the case of KOFXV, we can already tell from both their history within previous entries, as well as what's been already shown in the trailers, that pretty much any returning character from now on will be a "modernized" port of their previous appearance, design and gameplay-wise.



And by the way - this is basically why I'm *still* not impressed with what KOFXV have been shown so far, even after their biggest trailer;

2 brand new characters out of 30 other ones that look and play basically the same as they've ever been... That just isn't enough for me, I'm sorry.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nexus Games on August 30, 2021, 07:52:24 pm
to me this game looks like a different version or a remake of kof14 with a fresh coat of paint
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 30, 2021, 07:59:25 pm
I really hope the DLC doesn't have any returning characters. Like, they took out the characters from the roster and then just copy-paste them (just like they did with most of this roster) and sell it for an extra price? Hell no, only new stuff.

Popular characters sell.

Mortal Kombat 11 mostly brought back old fan favorites like Mileena, Rain, Fujin, Sheeva, Sindel, Nightwolf, Shang Tsung. Never really a new face except for guest characters.
Street Fighter is quite similar since many of the new faces were badly received like Abigail & Luke.
KOF isn't going to be any different. 90% of the roster we've seen are old faces and I doubt people will not pay for classic characters like Kim or Kensou even if they return as DLC characters.

You're missing the point. Mortal Kombat characters didn't have the same gameplay for several games now, all those characters you mentioned play absolutely nothing like they did in their previous playable appearance. KoF XV is literally copying and pasting stuff from KoF XIV, which means that, if the DLC is returning characters, you're literally buying something you already had in the previous game, but now, for an extra price.

Fair enough.
But you also need to realize that SNK has neither the money nor the time to overhaul characters like NetherRealm Studios.
They're on a tight ship regarding budget and development time so expecting anything too much is pretty much futile. Mind you, XIV didn't sell as well as they hoped and I'm not even going to mention SamSho 2019. I know this since SNK's shares are traded through KOSDAQ and their annual report revealed that they hit their lowest point in 2020 regarding sales.

Just expect the games to be mostly Copy + Paste with SNK until they become a financially stable company again.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 31, 2021, 06:21:16 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1432523534165762053

Looking again at what they show of the game's cinematics I am even more certain the tall dark skinned lady will be a boss. She can be seen losing control over this power which creates a huge pillar of energy, during this a figure can be seen for a split second, and this thing will likely be the final boss.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 31, 2021, 07:55:58 am

Fair enough.
But you also need to realize that SNK has neither the money nor the time to overhaul characters like NetherRealm Studios.
They're on a tight ship regarding budget and development time so expecting anything too much is pretty much futile. Mind you, XIV didn't sell as well as they hoped and I'm not even going to mention SamSho 2019. I know this since SNK's shares are traded through KOSDAQ and their annual report revealed that they hit their lowest point in 2020 regarding sales.

Just expect the games to be mostly Copy + Paste with SNK until they become a financially stable company again.
That is not an excuse, dude. Reutilizing stuff in the base game can be excused to an extent, specially if they had no money, but charging extra money for recycled stuff that they removed? Hell, no. Not to mention reutilizing stuff already saves them a lot of money, since they don't have to remake models and animations for characters that were already in KoF XIV. They should have the money to make new stuff for the base game AND for the DLC. Also, I doubt SamSho didn't sell well, considering how its still getting DLC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 31, 2021, 08:47:12 am
they don't have to remake models and animations for characters that were already in KoF XIV.

Woah woah woah. Gotta stop you there bud.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvnDvG4VkAE9eUi.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2X7IMuVoAs8qp6?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
You can't seriously look at these images and say they didn't have to "remake" models.
By the looks of it, they overhauled most of the polygons and textures for every single character that made it in XV, thus the reason why their rosters are much smaller than XIV.
Now regarding animations, I agree full heartedly, but to criticize SNK for not being able to keep up with 2021's standards is purely asking for too much.

And regarding SamSho and SNK's 2019 report:
(https://cdn.tgdaily.co.kr/news/photo/201907/213094_42379_4228.png)
Their shares literally plummeted after the release of SamSho which was in June 24th cuz it didn't sell well.

Even now, they are literally losing money every month in 2021.
https://news.nate.com/view/20210310n30799
It's said that they're losing 16.5% of their shares alone in March (which was their lowest point of 2021).
You get to know all this information cuz thankfully SNK trades in KOSDAQ and I happen to be Korean who can deliver all this news right to your doorstep without having someone to translate them.

Just know that expecting much from SNK is like trying to get water out of a stone. SamSho & KOF: XIV didn't sell well so just hope XV sells well enough to make XVI a proper game. And as an upside, apparently SNK made "some" recovery in the past few months so maybe your wishes can come true after all.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on August 31, 2021, 09:00:16 am
But wasnt KoFXIV well received that even they were surprised?

I kinda remember it sold twice as much they expected.
Could be wrong but it was something that I remember reading and gave me hope for a XV version.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 31, 2021, 09:03:10 am
But wasnt KoFXIV well received that even they were surprised?

No, you're absolutely right. It was well received by critics and avid fans alike.
But it didn't sell well as they hoped.

Probably due to graphics and KOF being less known to the casual audience.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 31, 2021, 10:33:20 am
You can't seriously look at these images and say they didn't have to "remake" models.
By the looks of it, they overhauled most of the polygons and textures for every single character that made it in XV, thus the reason why their rosters are much smaller than XIV.
Yeah, no. Those models were only slightly altered, mostly texture updates, which really isn't that hard or expensive. It has a cost, of course, but it's not a remake at all and doesn't cost nearly as much as one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 31, 2021, 10:57:46 am
You can't seriously look at these images and say they didn't have to "remake" models.
By the looks of it, they overhauled most of the polygons and textures for every single character that made it in XV, thus the reason why their rosters are much smaller than XIV.
Yeah, no. Those models were only slightly altered, mostly texture updates, which really isn't that hard or expensive. It has a cost, of course, but it's not a remake at all and doesn't cost nearly as much as one.


Well, we can agree to disagree.

If you find recycled DLCs to be unworthy and not worth the money, then it's your freedom not to purchase them.
As for me, I probably would because knowing SNK's financial situation they're in right now, any positive support would do them good.

But in the end, your opinion is just as valuable as mine and nobody is "wrong" in this situation.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lichtbringer on August 31, 2021, 12:54:21 pm
I'm curious if the Epic deal with Samsho was necessary to stay in a save position in regards of money or if it hurt SNK in the longrun, many players tend to forget about Epic exclusive games and found something different they want to play when they finaly arrive on steam.

Also there was the Stadia version that was definitively a big waste of money.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on September 01, 2021, 04:42:47 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I saw about that in a video with other leaks and there're huge possibilites for those 2, which lead to some theories about future teams:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Personally I would like the South America and Southtown Team would come back as well... especially the latter with Yamazaki replacing Geese as his henchman once again
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on September 01, 2021, 09:00:46 am
Tomorrow will be Ash's trailer coming: https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1432885922807353346

Personally I would like the South America and Southtown Team would come back as well... especially the latter with Yamazaki replacing Geese as his henchman once again
Maybe Geese might hire Yamazaki to do investigations about this aftermath Verse saga with Billy and Hein, and maybe agent team might be watching out for this team since Blue Mary is leading this team

edit:
Tokyo Game Show 2021 Online Event will have more details coming for kofxv: https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1432991626356350977 hopefully snk will be more careful of getting their stuffs leak this time  ;)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 02, 2021, 04:14:01 am
Ash trailer

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on September 02, 2021, 04:15:01 am
Was gonna post the trailer but was too late by seconds. ;-;

Ash be looking stiff as hell.

Just... god, I can't like this trailer, he looks so stiff. So, so stiff. It's like barely any part of him is moving during any of his animations. Not even the other cast members look like this, or have it this bad. Don't tell me everyone is as bad as this -- Ash is fucking rigid looking.

I mean I love his design and new climax move, but c'mon SNK, give his attacks a bit more life to them. He's allowed to move more than four bones in his body isn't he?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on September 02, 2021, 04:16:17 am
They should've added more smears in his attacks (0:24)... but I'm not complaining.
I dig his new outfit though.

But it does look like he has a bad back hahaha
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on September 02, 2021, 04:43:59 am
Give him back his gloves, you horrible people :furious2:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on September 02, 2021, 04:44:28 am
Give him back his gloves, you horrible people!

- Gives him an ice stage
- Removes his gloves

Ash gets frostbite and becomes an amputee confirmed
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on September 02, 2021, 04:55:34 am
Ash Everyone has lava manifesting chi in their blood cells so they should be fine surviving zero degress air.

Can't wait to pay money to get his old looks back and pretend him wearing black boots all came from a bad dream.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kkhohoho on September 02, 2021, 06:04:11 am
they don't have to remake models and animations for characters that were already in KoF XIV.

Woah woah woah. Gotta stop you there bud.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvnDvG4VkAE9eUi.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2X7IMuVoAs8qp6?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
You can't seriously look at these images and say they didn't have to "remake" models.
By the looks of it, they overhauled most of the polygons and textures for every single character that made it in XV, thus the reason why their rosters are much smaller than XIV.
Now regarding animations, I agree full heartedly, but to criticize SNK for not being able to keep up with 2021's standards is purely asking for too much.

And regarding SamSho and SNK's 2019 report:
(https://cdn.tgdaily.co.kr/news/photo/201907/213094_42379_4228.png)
Their shares literally plummeted after the release of SamSho which was in June 24th cuz it didn't sell well.

Even now, they are literally losing money every month in 2021.
https://news.nate.com/view/20210310n30799
It's said that they're losing 16.5% of their shares alone in March (which was their lowest point of 2021).
You get to know all this information cuz thankfully SNK trades in KOSDAQ and I happen to be Korean who can deliver all this news right to your doorstep without having someone to translate them.

Just know that expecting much from SNK is like trying to get water out of a stone. SamSho & KOF: XIV didn't sell well so just hope XV sells well enough to make XVI a proper game. And as an upside, apparently SNK made "some" recovery in the past few months so maybe your wishes can come true after all.

I don't know. Everything else I've seen says Samsho did pretty well for SNK. It sold well in Japan, fourth best selling game of it's first week, and was the best selling game they ever sold. Maybe it wasn't a hit, but you can be a niche little game and make a decent profit.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on September 02, 2021, 09:14:08 am
Not releasing anything is probably not too good for continued profits.

Ash's new climax looks really good.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on September 02, 2021, 05:20:01 pm
Ash´s fire animations are really well done now
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on September 02, 2021, 07:03:33 pm
Really digging the new DM
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on September 02, 2021, 07:51:34 pm
His fire effects look like they weren't anti-aliased IMO.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on September 02, 2021, 08:00:52 pm
Just checked the footage. They totally are anti-aliased, and consistent with the rest of the effects shown so far.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on September 02, 2021, 08:35:38 pm
Really? They don't look good to me at all. Something about them looks like they're just pasted over the footage to me, or thrown in lazily without effort. I think the rest of the character FX have looked better than this.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on September 02, 2021, 10:25:06 pm
In general, Ash and his stage looks cool.

But watching the trailer again.
- Looks like that Ash's Thermidor is kinda strange. Few animations of both him and fire FX feels incomplete. I believe SNK will fix that till the release.
- Ash's flames ended with a dark effect. Probably Saiki still on Ash?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on September 02, 2021, 10:38:05 pm
- Ash's flames ended with a dark effect. Probably Saiki still on Ash?
I like Saiki more than Ash but I think all a lot of flame effects end with that black smoke. Checking out the Kyo and Iori trailers, Orochinagi doesn't have it but 182 Shiki and Ya Otome have it (I think it's all the explosions and not the flaming trails like Orochinagi). SNK has been using that black smoke since XII.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on September 03, 2021, 03:23:01 pm
maybe it's saiki and not ash who got revived
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on September 03, 2021, 05:26:42 pm
Really? They don't look good to me at all. Something about them looks like they're just pasted over the footage to me, or thrown in lazily without effort. I think the rest of the character FX have looked better than this.
I dunno man, they look OK to me. You sure you're inspecting the footage properly?

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on September 03, 2021, 05:36:18 pm
Yeah... it looks okay...
I think it's the color. It's that vile green vomit color with horrible white outlines that makes it look putrid.
The effect itself isn't too off looking.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on September 03, 2021, 05:40:02 pm
Yeah, that sorta is the whole point to Ash's acidic flames ever since he was announced and literally appeared for the first time in the intro for KOF 2003. I think everything about this character was designed to be subversive and antithetical to every single vanilla beefcake shonen already established in the franchise.

You either love Ash or hate him, but ain't nobody is indifferent to his presence, and in that ... the design succeeded at what it set out to do.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on September 03, 2021, 05:48:08 pm
maybe it's saiki and not ash who got revived
No. Literally just look at the trailer.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on September 03, 2021, 06:28:17 pm
To be very honest... I find Ash WAY more likeable than Shun'ei.
The fact that he's an anti-hero with a non-conventional protagonist face and a cynical personality just makes him much more interesting than a hot-headed, emo prodigy kid.

Like him or hate him, Ash is an iconic character to KOF and I'm happy to see him back (and with his original VA).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on September 03, 2021, 06:32:32 pm
You sure you're inspecting the footage properly?

I… don’t know what this means lol

But yeah I just don’t like the flames. They just look wrong. Just my opinion though and I don’t really know how to describe what looks off.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on September 03, 2021, 06:39:27 pm
You sure you're inspecting the footage properly?

I… don’t know what this means lol

But yeah I just don’t like the flames. They just look wrong. Just my opinion though and I don’t really know how to describe what looks off.

I can probably help you out...

In some instances, the flames look really off, like when you use the wrong sprpriority for explods and they look like they're about to pop right out of the screen (i.e. 0:33).
The color depth is also very weak and it doesn't look natural sometimes (The white outlines don't help either).
The animations of the flames themselves are also very fast and should be toned down a little.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: BurningSoul on September 04, 2021, 02:26:23 am
Ash's flames look inverterted to give it a different  look.with glowy edges.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lichtbringer on September 04, 2021, 12:28:53 pm
Mhhh never realy cared for Ash, but he looks ok I guess.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on September 04, 2021, 12:36:06 pm
Mhhh never realy cared for Ash, but he looks ok I guess.

Same here.
I usually don't really care the European cliché characters... and particularly him.

But I kind of like his new design (even if I still hate his hair style and shape of his nose)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on September 04, 2021, 10:06:53 pm
Mhhh never realy cared for Ash, but he looks ok I guess.
Same here in part. I never liked Ash at all, but his comeback and new look are great for me, a new refresh especially with that new outfit, and it's good to see all past main chars from all KOF in the same game, should be a special ending for the old mains (Kyo, K' and Ash) like those special teams in XIV
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on September 06, 2021, 10:11:06 pm
When you think of Ash as a non-protag character he is decent. If I think of Ash as a main protag, then I dislike him.
So, I think, cool, the femboy, Ash, he is here, and got a cool winter coat. Nice.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 09, 2021, 05:14:45 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1435785028970053636

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on September 09, 2021, 03:13:21 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1435785028970053636

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on September 09, 2021, 03:55:39 pm
Such a shame that Mature and Vice aren't in XV this time...
Then again, they were here for XIII & XIV, so I guess it makes sense. Maybe as DLC?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on September 09, 2021, 04:41:08 pm
Such a shame that Mature and Vice aren't in XV this time...
Then again, they were here for XIII & XIV, so I guess it makes sense. Maybe as DLC?

there are still empty slot yet to put new characters so let wait next week or was the roster leak?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on September 09, 2021, 04:53:37 pm
Such a shame that Mature and Vice aren't in XV this time...
Then again, they were here for XIII & XIV, so I guess it makes sense. Maybe as DLC?

there are still empty slot yet to put new characters so let wait next week or was the roster leak?

Well, hopefully they do return.
But they did say "we'll be sitting at the front row seats" which kind of implies that they're more spectators than fighters this time.

Also, I'd be surprised if they return before Kim ever does so they're kind of behind the priority list right now.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on September 09, 2021, 07:13:51 pm
Such a shame that Mature and Vice aren't in XV this time...
Then again, they were here for XIII & XIV, so I guess it makes sense. Maybe as DLC?

there are still empty slot yet to put new characters so let wait next week or was the roster leak?

Well, hopefully they do return.
But they did say "we'll be sitting at the front row seats" which kind of implies that they're more spectators than fighters this time.

Also, I'd be surprised if they return before Kim ever does so they're kind of behind the priority list right now.
yeah, the expectation is on the horizon so let's wait for those trailers
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on September 09, 2021, 09:34:28 pm
Hope we get to see some villanous characters soon. I don't think we really have any outside of CYS right now? Geese Howard when
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on September 10, 2021, 06:01:33 pm
Some interesting details have been surfacing regarding the TEAMS' Stories on the KOF XV Official Website (https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/kof-xv/teams/).

In case you're a lazy reader like me, maybe you'd be interested in having them narrated in Audio format (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQqDCMg3_eg) by yours truly ;)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on September 10, 2021, 06:22:14 pm
Some interesting details have been surfacing regarding the TEAMS' Stories on the KOF XV Official Website (https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/kof-xv/teams/).

In case you're a lazy reader like me, maybe you'd be interested in having them narrated in Audio format (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQqDCMg3_eg) by yours truly ;)

Thanks buddy ! Awesome! 8)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on September 10, 2021, 08:26:29 pm
Boy, I just caught up with all the stuff regarding the game, I was interested to know the insight of gameplay and all. Ash looks good and Famitsu apparently made the KOF XV website where they have probably given a hint who will next one to surface. As for the feedback here yeah it's great to see everybody's opinion.

In case you're a lazy reader like me, maybe you'd be interested in having them narrated in Audio format (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQqDCMg3_eg) by yours truly ;)
Well, I checked out and yeah I am digging the stuff so far...


Off-topic: Anyone checking Shingo Spinoff Manga lately? Will it lead to some potential storyline for the game?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on September 10, 2021, 11:27:11 pm
Off-topic: Anyone checking Shingo Spinoff Manga lately? Will it lead to some potential storyline for the game?

Wait, such a thing exists ? where ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 15, 2021, 06:21:13 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1437959356927004673

Kukri trailer tomorrow.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 15, 2021, 03:34:07 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1438050201097236480

Game will be playable at TGS.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on September 15, 2021, 03:51:24 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1437959356927004673

Kukri trailer tomorrow.
who said that it's gonna be Kukri?
Spoiler: the real identity of the next fighter (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on September 15, 2021, 04:02:12 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1437959356927004673

Kukri trailer tomorrow.
who said that it's gonna be Kukri?
Spoiler: the real identity of the next fighter (click to see content)

hah! Like everytime!
No doubt ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on September 16, 2021, 04:21:45 am
If only KOF is still in 2D. His sand would probably look Metal Slug-ish when animated.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 16, 2021, 04:55:56 am
His face is clearly visible now in some camera angles.

(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/796911886209122315/887881451016712282/image0.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on September 16, 2021, 09:07:57 am
awwww.... boo hoo.
I was expecting a man in his late 30's or early 40's... That would've been so dope.

This dude looks like a cheap Yashiro knockoff.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on September 16, 2021, 05:28:39 pm
I swear, if there's a single reference to SNK Heroines between any of his dialogue scenes, I'm gonna die inside.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on September 17, 2021, 11:42:54 pm
I swear, if there's a single reference to SNK Heroines between any of his dialogue scenes, I'm gonna die inside.

His appearance in SNKH is canon, so ... there's that :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: CinderFallFan on September 17, 2021, 11:48:14 pm
I just hope Kukri gets to swear like a sailor again like an edgelord sandman.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on September 18, 2021, 12:23:05 am
Given the game rating, he probably will carry that into XV XD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Knuckles8864 on September 18, 2021, 07:51:26 am
Face-wise, Kukri looks a bit like a younger Urien to me.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 18, 2021, 03:46:25 pm
I swear, if there's a single reference to SNK Heroines between any of his dialogue scenes, I'm gonna die inside.

His appearance in SNKH is canon, so ... there's that :P

"Canon". The game didn't really happen, it was just a bad dream. The only canon thing about it is Shermie being alive.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DarkWolf13 on September 21, 2021, 02:17:09 am
I missed out on a lot of stuff to say on but I find it weird Ash seems so stiff now. And Kukri... he looks less intimidating now since we saw his face. I always found those who never showed their face to viewers intimidating. I don't know, it's just a feeling. Anyway, Still hoping to see Rugal and Igniz joining. If Igniz really is revived, would he resurrect NESTS?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on September 22, 2021, 01:36:00 pm
(https://external-preview.redd.it/RIqd3wp_lMWDxLzYEAzcX9A0kA20pNo0o8OcmT0XrJU.jpg?auto=webp&s=ff31fc5eb404d444cd4c78c005e57f4d3423dac1)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on September 22, 2021, 04:03:49 pm
The copy paste was 100 percent :/ and the story line was about his attacks so my expectation was died
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on September 22, 2021, 06:05:50 pm
I just wanna know how many multi-dimensional shenanigans are they gonna bring up, just to explain how Ash can be "undeleted" from the timeline and still have his whole XIII moveset, despite Iori and Chizuru technically never having their powers stolen;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on September 22, 2021, 06:16:58 pm
I just wanna know how many multi-dimensional shenanigans are they gonna bring up, just to explain how Ash can be "undeleted" from the timeline and still have his whole XIII moveset, despite Iori and Chizuru technically never having their powers stolen;

It was a wizzard. That's the correct answer ^o^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on September 22, 2021, 06:24:30 pm
He doesn't seem to have the purple flame super he stole from Iori, and he doesn't have anything special from Chizuru, so surely they can just say he's just vanilla Ash without anything stolen. The issue is having Ash without Saiki (but white Saiki is a character I wish came back).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on September 23, 2021, 08:25:37 am
Fatal Fury Team story:
https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/kof-xv/teams/

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 23, 2021, 08:42:09 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on September 23, 2021, 09:04:34 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
if you have played through the team/single one player mode with Fatal Fury Team in kof2003 and Xiii, then you will know :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on September 23, 2021, 09:05:55 am
I don't get the transphobia bit.

Isn't it just some dude that Joe mistook for a lady, and as such hit on him, and then he got super attached to Joe as a result despite him realizing his mistake?

If I'm misremembering things, please correct me. This doesn't sound like transphobia so much as it does a gag.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on September 23, 2021, 12:03:55 pm
seems like a language barrier thing if im being honest. i think orarora is saying the person is supposed to be trans, which is still wrong if im remembering correctly.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 23, 2021, 03:28:35 pm
Its not a trans, its literally a dude in drag.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 23, 2021, 04:19:48 pm
So, I saw the video, the guy isn't trans, nor is he in drag, he is literally just an effeminate guy that Joe thought was a "babelicious" girl, somehow. I wouldn't call Joe anythingphobic for it, but that depiction of a gay man is a bit homophobic, since it's a caricature, basically, though not nearly as problematic as, say, Ash from Streets of Rage.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on September 23, 2021, 07:07:35 pm
Yeah, it's a joke based on trans panic / gay panic. It's old and shitty.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on September 24, 2021, 02:07:17 am
And awful as s***. Can't believe they still with that crap with Joe.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 24, 2021, 02:18:52 am
They still do it?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on September 24, 2021, 03:01:34 am
It's Joe's story in KoF XV so yes they're still doing it. Never mind, I misread.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 24, 2021, 03:36:16 am
No they aren't. Last time that guy appeared was in XIII.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on September 24, 2021, 03:50:05 am
Honestly I don't entirely mind the gag with Joe. And this is coming from a gay guy so maybe my word means something lol

I personally don't see it as gay panic, I see it as the age old gag of "guy hits on girl, girl turns out to be guy, guy is shocked." Perhaps that's an offensive gag in retrospect but I've never seen it as offensive and I've found it quite funny (annoying too but that's just cause it's such a cliche thing).

I do hope they don't repeat it outright though. Every side character having the same story game after game gets boring. Give him at least *something* different.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Jmorphman on September 24, 2021, 05:02:25 am
Honestly I don't entirely mind the gag with Joe. And this is coming from a gay guy so maybe my word means something lol
You are free to view it as you like, but like... it's maybe not your position to hand down a verdict here. The gag is immediately and obviously a transphobic one. That's the joke, that is the entirety of it.

And it really fucking sucks!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on September 24, 2021, 05:06:25 am
Fair enough. To each their own then.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 24, 2021, 05:54:04 am
So, I just saw the KoF XIII ending, and yeah, it got worse. The 03 ending shows the character as just an effeminate guy, since he uses masculine clothing, and the XIII ending shows them in women's clothes, if we try to pretend that this isn't just queerphobic writing (because, for those writers, its all the same, even though thats not how it works in real life), the character could be seen as gender-fluid, which means the gender they identify as changes with time, that, arguably, would explain the clothing change.

The problem is, we obviously know this wasn't written by a queer person to add representation, the character is an obvious caricature in their appearence and they're obviously sexually harassing Joe, which is super problematic. Like, its basically portraying a queer person as a crazy horny pervert, its an absurdely dated stereotype, it surprises me that I've never seen anyone commenting on this before.

I'm a gay man as well, but while I won't claim to be an authority in this, I will say that regardless of opinion, this is a very harmful representation, like, if we had more queer characters as non-harmful representation in the series (specially among the main cast), this wouldn't have been much of an issue, because it could be written off as this character from Joe's ending just being some random pervert, but when its pretty much the only queer face you see in the series? Yeah, calling this a "bad look" is an understatement.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on September 24, 2021, 06:01:59 am
Ohhhhhh shit I forgot about that specific part in KOF XIII’s ending. Riiiiight. Fuck.

Yeah Nevermind it’s not funny. My mind was stuck in the 03 ending. Apologies for overlooking that. I forgot it wasn’t just the exact same thing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 24, 2021, 03:47:42 pm
Its a dated gag. That's all there is to it. SNK moved away from it, so there's no need to push this subject further.

The Fatal Fury team's XIV ending is about Joe being kind of jealous that his pals got girlfriends while he's alone. This is even brought again in the ANB manga. Lilly had always been his love interest in the FF series, so its surprising they took this long to even mention her in the KoF storyline (though she's made some small cameos before). And when she's around her brother is not too far away, so this probably means Billy will be in the game, if not on base roster then as DLC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on September 25, 2021, 04:13:02 am
Quote
KOF XV is coming to the 2021 Tokyo Game Show!
There will be a special KOF XV program which will air from 9PM PDT, Sept 29th!

A rundown of KOF XV’s game system, as well as the first-time glimpse of the game in action will be on display!

https://tgs.nikkeibp.co.jp/tgs/2021/en/

#KOF #KOF15TGS

No new characters this week but they will be there at TGS on Sept 29.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on September 25, 2021, 09:54:44 am
I used the word "transphobia" because of this site where i might thought I would know what was the name of that individual in dress: https://lgbtqgamearchive.com/2017/02/10/transphobiahomophobia-in-the-king-of-fighters-xiii/ I remember in somewhere (snk wiki i think) which I saw in the mid of 2020, his name was okami or otani, something like that  :S since i can't find his name anymore, i just call him "transphobia". The reason why I was finding information about him was because I plan to make Joe as the main protagonist for my Mugen game and wanted a storyline for it which involve this transphobia after kof13's tournament, as well as Terry bogard (he used to be big fan of Terry and later switched to Joe after Joe saved his life).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on September 27, 2021, 07:37:51 am
Only 8 characters are playable at the TGS 2021 event hall: https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1442308007954628610
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on September 27, 2021, 07:48:20 am
I hope people report on the name and playstyle of the new girl, if she's gonna be the only new playable character. I imagine she'll be among the most played simply because she is new and people may want to get a feel for a brand new character ahead of time.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on September 28, 2021, 09:39:09 pm
The official youtube channel is planning a stream on September 30. There's one for most languages so pick yours.
https://www.youtube.com/c/snkplaymoreGame/videos
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on September 29, 2021, 09:40:15 am
info about the new girl on the 29th sept 9pm pdt, tune in to "tgs" kof xv special program: https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1443032786739269636
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: no1wammy on September 30, 2021, 07:23:29 am
New KOF Character: Isla (pictures at Event Hubs (https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2021/sep/29/isla-announced-kof15/))

Spoiler: "Isla Trailer" (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on September 30, 2021, 12:39:41 pm
K' trailer


Also they released SVC MOTM on Steam two days after I finally got it for NGPC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on September 30, 2021, 01:02:15 pm
Uh, the flame pillar super look awful.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on September 30, 2021, 01:08:27 pm
The sound on it is okay but it just feels incomplete without the black BG from its previous iterations.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on September 30, 2021, 03:45:58 pm
The sound on it is okay but it just feels incomplete without the black BG from its previous iterations.

Very this.

I’m at least glad they got his trailer out finally. Holy fuck that was a wait.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on September 30, 2021, 03:52:18 pm
K' trailer
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TbovdP-tuM[/youtube]

Also they released SVC MOTM on Steam two days after I finally got it for NGPC.

how is the netcode
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Bejeeta on September 30, 2021, 04:38:45 pm
Sadly svc motm is offline only.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on September 30, 2021, 06:21:08 pm
K' - Design and combos looks damn cool but... WHY THE SAME GODDAMN CLIMAX!? And why looks worse than in KOF XIII?

Isla - Despite the kinda cool Supers, she looks awful. And her Climax is even worse than Shun'ei.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on September 30, 2021, 07:44:21 pm
The short event was OK at best, I mean other than what we knew already there was not much revealed yet. Isla appears to be a cool character concept though. A kicking specialist after Luong but not 100%.  The stage and song are drippy and yeah worth a listen, I think she is fine for now. As for K yeah the remix was nuts, I hope this one and the other Kyo's trailer are listed in the DJ station.

As for his climax, just bring back 02 UM HDSM, it will be 100 times epic, with a fade to black and black-white touch after the execution. 

Now there are some improvements compared to 14 but yeah hopefully the final product does address the cosmetic issues when the team is done adjusting the online infrastructure for the game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on October 01, 2021, 12:40:16 am
Move commands
https://t.co/pDpXL6SHd2?amp=1
Some have new moves and some changes to the move commands

Sadly svc motm is offline only.

Since there is going to be a PC release someone could add in an online patch to add in runback netcode to the game
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on October 01, 2021, 03:01:50 am
Isla - Despite the kinda cool Supers, she looks awful. And her Climax is even worse than Shun'ei.

I don't like her too. She looks like an overly designed character both in her move sets and personality.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on October 01, 2021, 09:12:52 am
she looks fine she reminds me darli but as an asian baby doll look. so is she teamed up with K? i saw the roster team and she's not teamed up with the other new girl.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on October 01, 2021, 09:22:41 am
Her trailer music is nice...
Nothing more from me. I feel her like so so...

Kind of character for teens players of fortnite, etc.
I'm certainly too old for this stuff...

Suddently, Shun Ei looks very good to me... -_-;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on October 01, 2021, 09:57:53 am
Isla(?) looks pretty cool.

K'.... I find his hair a bit too much, but it's all good I guess.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on October 01, 2021, 03:57:24 pm
So, honestly... Isla looks bad. Like, people complain about Shun'ei, but I've always found his design very clean, despite his problems. Isla looks like they just threw a bunch of random shit on her design and even her specials feel excessive, like, instead of focusing on energy hands or paint cans, they just put together everything randomly without thinking too much about it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on October 01, 2021, 04:30:33 pm
she kind of reminds me of the late hana kimura with the gas look mouth mask to me
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on October 01, 2021, 04:34:36 pm
So, honestly... Isla looks bad. Like, people complain about Shun'ei, but I've always found his design very clean, despite his problems. Isla looks like they just threw a bunch of random shit on her design and even her specials feel excessive, like, instead of focusing on energy hands or paint cans, they just put together everything randomly without thinking too much about it.

Yes, kind of.
Actually, Shun Ei was already a mish mash of random "trendy" stuffs mixed up together to please both Chinese audience and young anime fans.

But I'm pretty ok with your point about Isla.
As I said earlier, now when I compare both, I feel Shun Ei very clean and OK for Kof.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on October 01, 2021, 04:45:25 pm
Combo videos is on the way
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on October 01, 2021, 05:01:15 pm
This game has the combined depth of modern systems + Insanely long KOF 98 movelists.

It's gonna be freaking great >_<
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on October 01, 2021, 05:23:59 pm
This game has the combined depth of modern systems + Insanely long KOF 98 movelists.

It's gonna be freaking great >_<

Hopefully that applies to the likes of King and Kim (if he's in). King had it worst with only 3 specials in XIV and she even lost the Air Venom Strike from XIII. Kim also felt like he was missing something.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on October 01, 2021, 05:44:38 pm
isla looks great. def better than shun'eis dorky look
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on October 01, 2021, 06:06:19 pm
I love her design, I'm just not too keen on the way her moves work :-S
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on October 01, 2021, 06:10:29 pm
I need a crazy guy character like k9999 or Yamazaki in this roster because everyboby is cool.
more combo videos, Athena sucks doing combos
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on October 01, 2021, 09:27:06 pm
the thing about shun is that his colors doesn't pop , his a mish mash of dark colors and his hair is puke green.

isla's colours is fine , it's vibrant but not glaring. though i don't like the hands' color.

isla covers the new cool female character so it's safe to say alice won't be in this game and that's a good thing. her VA was more annoying than athena's.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on October 02, 2021, 05:13:03 am
Looking at the various combo videos going around... The flame effects are all super bad. Kyo's punch combos, Iori's Saika... Man, that's ugly.
I'm okay with Isla's design, she looks like a random graffiti artist off the street.
.... What's going on with Iori's double voice during his ultimate ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on October 02, 2021, 05:20:03 am
.... What's going on with Iori's double voice during his ultimate ?

Orochi influence.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on October 02, 2021, 05:22:24 am
Obviously but that's a lot more than the Orochi Iori voice, O Iori just had a crazy voice, not a straight up double voice like that. It makes it seem like Orochi is actually in Iori the way he was in Chris in 97. That's a big story change waiting to happen here.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on October 02, 2021, 03:28:08 pm
insane combo damage
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on October 06, 2021, 09:45:17 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FA5ppGEUcAMppaD?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on October 06, 2021, 12:17:55 pm
I'm always impressed how good ALL characters are in these artworks, even the ones I don't like.

Great artwork.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on October 13, 2021, 05:02:44 am
A little bit too obvious.

https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1448106384403337221
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on October 13, 2021, 05:11:54 am
Hell yea, General from Kaiser Knuckle is back!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on October 13, 2021, 05:14:46 am
it could be jack krauser from resident evil as special guest  :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on October 13, 2021, 05:54:05 am
Who could it be?
Rolento?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on October 13, 2021, 06:00:26 am
Who could it be?
Rolento?

No, c'mon man, it's obvious. :\





It's Alba Meira.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on October 13, 2021, 09:05:24 am
That hat...it only could be Baoh! xD!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on October 13, 2021, 09:39:39 am
C'mon SNK, everyone can clearly see it's Chris Pratt cosplaying as Mario.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on October 13, 2021, 11:16:43 am
That hat...it only could be Baoh! xD!

I second that ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on October 13, 2021, 02:27:57 pm
A little bit too obvious.

https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1448106384403337221

I agree. With a silhouette like this one, it can only be one specific character
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on October 13, 2021, 04:48:36 pm
They even didnt try it
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 14, 2021, 04:43:03 am
Trailer's up



They'll keep the guessing game going it seems.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on October 14, 2021, 04:45:16 am
I feel like, with so few characters left, the delays are kinda pointless. I honestly FORGOT they still had characters left to show lol

Regardless, I think Heidern looks pretty alright here. Can't wait to see him chill with K' and Whip (probably).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on October 14, 2021, 09:32:32 am
His Level 3 feels anti-climactic at best. I feel like it needs some kind of crazy blood splash when the spikes drop out.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on October 14, 2021, 01:59:20 pm
starting to think we may not even see Kim.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Diek Stiekem on October 14, 2021, 03:55:14 pm
starting to think we may not even see Kim.

I'm afraid a bunch of fan favorites will be held hostage behind a dlc paywall :(
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on October 14, 2021, 04:37:03 pm
I'm afraid a bunch of fan favorites will be held hostage behind a DLC paywall :(

Well, how else do you think they plan on getting you to buy it?
They can't really expect people to gravitate towards a ton of new characters that no one's ever heard of before as extra paid content.
That being said, I am curious as to see who'll show up in the remaining teams.
I'm thinking that K' will probably have Maxima and Kula again,
and Heidern will probably have Whip since Mary, Vanessa, Ramon, and the Ikari Warriors are on different teams.
But all the others are kind of up in the air.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on October 14, 2021, 07:43:29 pm
I still think Heidern is gonna team up with either Ash or K' to be honest. I think Ash and K' are gonna have weird teams this time around but I also wouldn't be suprised if Ash teamed up with the two new rival girls.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on October 14, 2021, 07:58:16 pm
I'm still betting on K'/Heidern/Whip and Ash/Kukri/Elisabeth.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on October 14, 2021, 08:22:18 pm
starting to think we may not even see Kim.

I'm afraid a bunch of fan favorites will be held hostage behind a dlc paywall :(
Can we at least wait until the entire base roster is revealed before we go doom and gloom?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: HexagoN on October 15, 2021, 01:25:38 am
I still think Heidern is gonna team up with either Ash or K' to be honest. I think Ash and K' are gonna have weird teams this time around but I also wouldn't be suprised if Ash teamed up with the two new rival girls.

But in the trailer Ash, K'Dash and Isla have their own teams, and I get the feeling that the other new girl could be a boss or related to it.

I'm still betting on K'/Heidern/Whip and Ash/Kukri/Elisabeth.

I'm betting on that as well. We do have 7 slots to go so anything can happen.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: senorfro on October 15, 2021, 06:08:05 am
Did they make Mary's bust size bigger in this trailer?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on October 15, 2021, 09:00:17 am
(https://i.redd.it/mipttk1mfxs71.jpg)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on October 15, 2021, 03:42:46 pm
I still think Heidern is gonna team up with either Ash or K' to be honest. I think Ash and K' are gonna have weird teams this time around but I also wouldn't be suprised if Ash teamed up with the two new rival girls.

the two new girls are on different teams.

my guess it's K' and isla , heidern and the other new girl.

and idk about kim being DLC , if we do get hm as a DLC that means either we get the kim brothers as well or jhun and maylee.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 15, 2021, 03:42:56 pm
Heidern will be on one of the top row teams, most likely on K' team along with Kula. Remember, there's still a Sound Beach stage variation that currently don't have a set team yet and will most likely be used for the last team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on October 15, 2021, 03:45:58 pm
kinda weird to have a beach stage for k and kula. then again kula's first stage is a harbor.

do we have info on the final boss? and who will be the sub boss?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on October 15, 2021, 04:33:07 pm
kinda weird to have a beach stage for k and kula. then again kula's first stage is a harbor.

do we have info on the final boss? and who will be the sub boss?

We have no info on any bosses.

Also regarding your earlier message K’ and Isla are not on the same team. They’re leaders of their own separate teams.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on October 15, 2021, 06:14:48 pm
Yeah, the successive "main heroes" are leaders of their own team. Kyo, K', Ash, Shun'ei, so Isla is getting her own team since she's been labeled the hero of XV.
Heidern could be in any of these currently incomplete teams for whatever reason the story wants.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on October 15, 2021, 06:18:47 pm
she's been labeled the hero of XV.

The main heroine, specifically. Shun’ei is still the primary hero so she’s borderline his rival/unwilling ally.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on October 15, 2021, 06:27:16 pm
Oh, is there a difference, you think ? Because there wouldn't be a difference in Japanese, just in the translation, where the English "main heroine" has a different suggestion than the "main character". Was Shun'ei still labeled as the hero ? I didn't pay attention to him.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on October 15, 2021, 06:59:07 pm
Oh, is there a difference, you think ? Because there wouldn't be a difference in Japanese, just in the translation, where the English "main heroine" has a different suggestion than the "main character". Was Shun'ei still labeled as the hero ? I didn't pay attention to him.

Yes, Shun'ei was labeled as the protagonist of this saga. So he is the main hero. Isla is just his rival/a hero alongside him.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on October 15, 2021, 10:20:09 pm
Do you guys remember Najd? Considering that Vanessa, Heidern and Blue Mary, that were DLCs for XIV, were been promoted to part of the base roster and story of XV, it would be actually kinda cool to see her getting this kind of attention as well - being the only real newcomer of the XIV's DLC cast.


And with that said, here are all my unshatterable expectations in regards the full base roster:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on October 16, 2021, 01:11:02 am
Wow. Huh.

I can actually get behind both of those rosters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on October 16, 2021, 09:04:11 am
I still think Heidern is gonna team up with either Ash or K' to be honest. I think Ash and K' are gonna have weird teams this time around but I also wouldn't be suprised if Ash teamed up with the two new rival girls.

But in the trailer Ash, K'Dash and Isla have their own teams, and I get the feeling that the other new girl could be a boss or related to it.


Fair point, I also completely forgot that Kukri was in the game and I think he's more likely to team up with Ash. Dunno who the third member of their team would be though. Elizabeth? Shen Woo? Oswald?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on October 16, 2021, 02:15:23 pm
najd is a fan character , dunno if they bought her rights to be a proper SNK character or she's just a one and done character.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 16, 2021, 03:35:07 pm
SNK fully owns her rights.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 17, 2021, 06:24:24 am
By the way, here's my roster predictions: https://twitter.com/MagmaMKII/status/1449529139015340032
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on October 17, 2021, 09:21:50 am
By the way, here's my roster predictions: https://twitter.com/MagmaMKII/status/1449529139015340032

I hope you're right about Team Justice... For Angel and Kim. (Even if Angel doesn't seem to fit in such a team)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lichtbringer on October 17, 2021, 12:36:36 pm
Mhhh watched the Heidern Trailer now, like it so far.

The only thing I disliked was that they recolored some of the red effects, probrably to make them not look like blood, I dislike it if characters get toned-down. =/

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on October 17, 2021, 01:08:40 pm
By the way, here's my roster predictions: https://twitter.com/MagmaMKII/status/1449529139015340032

Kim and Angel are definitely not going to be in the base roster.
Those two are simply too popular NOT to make them DLC.

I'd wager Kukri to team up with Ash & Eliz and Isla's team to include Najd and the other new girl.
Kim and Angel will probably come in as separate DLC teams.

Most likely:
Kim + Jhun + Gang-Il [Team Korea]
&
Angel + Sylvie + some other NESTS fighter (i.e. Nameless) [NESTS Team]
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on October 17, 2021, 02:11:42 pm
Has Kim ever missed any KoF installement? Seems weird to include Luong over him but I guess hwatever happens, happens.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 17, 2021, 03:53:21 pm
Has Kim ever missed any KoF installement? Seems weird to include Luong over him but I guess hwatever happens, happens.

He's one of very few characters who have a perfect attendance so far, along with Kyo, Benimaru, Terry, Ryo, Ralf, Clark, Athena and Yuri.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on October 19, 2021, 11:22:23 am
(https://external-preview.redd.it/Jko7rCK2pc_lErvOLySlXRWAD9oNeE0YgyEGvMtgQO8.jpg?auto=webp&s=0a17b1c643e917df146f69765cb4fd16fd0f9500)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on October 19, 2021, 12:05:15 pm
that image said:
Heidern has always been there pushing the story along
lol he was relevant with Clone Zero in '00 and that's it. His role with Rugal was "you took my eye and killed my family", what has he actually done in the story ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on October 19, 2021, 12:23:48 pm
that image said:
Heidern has always been there pushing the story along
lol he was relevant with Clone Zero in '00 and that's it. His role with Rugal was "you took my eye and killed my family", what has he actually done in the story ?
Raising and training Leona.

I don't like Heidern either
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on October 19, 2021, 03:44:47 pm
what has he actually done in the story ?
Brought Leona to this world and to the pens and pencils of the fandom.

And I guessed dressed as a vampire in All Stars and would not stop showing up.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 19, 2021, 03:45:47 pm
Heidern is the closest the series has to a Big Good, sure his role was small during the Orochi arc but from the Nests arc forward he has always worked behind the scenes investigating the tournament hosts and their plans, plus he's been behind the formations of at least three different teams (Ikari, Secret Agents and K').
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on October 19, 2021, 11:35:01 pm
Heidern runs an organization devoted to countering each new evil force that shows up, he's definitely a narrative device for KOF. Its just that KOF is very light on story so its easy to overlook
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on October 19, 2021, 11:46:42 pm
Do you guys remember Najd? Considering that Vanessa, Heidern and Blue Mary, that were DLCs for XIV, were been promoted to part of the base roster and story of XV, it would be actually kinda cool to see her getting this kind of attention as well - being the only real newcomer of the XIV's DLC cast.


And with that said, here are all my unshatterable expectations in regards the full base roster:

"yep Kim" variation
(https://i.imgur.com/jFr5s9T.png)

I don’t see Kim in a canon team with Billy and Yamazaki at all, unless it ties in with a plot Geese ends up having. If Heidern has his own team, I’m thinking they’ll probably throw Kim in with him and Whip or Gang-Il, unless Kim’s part of one of the DLC teams. At this rate, Geese, Billy, Yamazaki, and Hein are all probably going to wind up as DLC, unless they show up in Ash’s or Isla’s teams.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on October 27, 2021, 05:04:04 pm
^Agreed. Billy and Yamazaki as part of the "Justice Team" doesn't make sense at all on it's own; it would need some crazy or goofy plot to justify Kim's interest in training the two, of all people, this time around.

But given the direction that XIV's plot is indicating to be going (the "Orochi Team" despite there being no sign of Orochi himself, Ash just existing at all...!), something like this for the South Town guys would honestly not be so much out of the scope of "ShAtTeRiNg AlL eXpEcTaTiOns UhUhUhuHuh!"


My preditction list was primarily inspired on how much resources SNK is likely planning to save for this game, until the release date at least - as you may possibly have noticed already, every new character predicted here is someone playable in KOF XIV, with the solo exception being Elisabeth. (...heck, imagine if they ditch even Elisabeth in favor of someone like, Oswald again lol)

I genuinely don't have high hopes in regards to SNK's decisions about this game in the future, given the information pieces that were given so far. But who truly knows...


By the way, here's my roster predictions: https://twitter.com/MagmaMKII/status/1449529139015340032

That's a really cool roster prediction right here! :) (hell yeah, Nelson returns! :sugoi:)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on October 27, 2021, 11:17:45 pm
Online beta coming up on Nov. 19 thru the 22 it comes with online play with rollback netcode.

Just announced on the PS State of Play
Comes with one brand new character Dolores and 7 other characters.



KoF XV system mechanics tutorial by Dune based on the TGS demo


Rember that what's in the demo might be different from the final version.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on October 27, 2021, 11:20:25 pm
Online beta coming up on Nov. 19 thru the 22 it comes with online play with rollback netcode.

Just announced on the PS State of Play
Comes with one brand new character Dolores and 7 other characters.

Oh! Good news!
I think we will have this online beta before the next GG Strive character.

I wonder if the chaaracters are mostly different from the matches we already saw.
I can't wait :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on October 27, 2021, 11:22:37 pm
https://youtu.be/wVsJcOC5sc8
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 27, 2021, 11:55:30 pm
Dolores looks cool af

Spoiler: "HUGE SPOILERS AHEAD" (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on October 28, 2021, 04:40:07 am
Dolores team Rival.!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: senorfro on October 28, 2021, 04:53:32 am
Her clothing and some movements look to be inspired from Luise Meyrink
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on October 28, 2021, 09:12:20 am
So with that, we have Ash's team and K's team the only ones left unfilled.

I'd guess it's (Ash + Elisabeth + Kukri) & (K' + Kula + Angel)

I also wonder who the last team is going to be though...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 28, 2021, 03:17:06 pm
Last team will be set to the Sound Beach afternoon stage.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on October 28, 2021, 06:04:55 pm
at first, it is kinda odd that heidern form a team with the two new girls to form rival team where it was as if heidern became a villain  :P but if you have follow Power Geyser on facebook, there is explanation of why they are teamed up which make sense. I was expecting heidern to team up with adel and seth to form team investigation where their job is to investigate verse and the other revive fighters :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on October 28, 2021, 06:10:20 pm
I also wonder who the last team is going to be though...

Better be Rugal's team. Kensou and Kim had better not missed out on the base roster for nothing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on October 28, 2021, 06:43:08 pm
Dolores looks damn great!!

Also in the Bellamy's interview, she confirmed that have a strong connection with Kukri.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 28, 2021, 07:19:28 pm
Just by going with the remaining stages we can guess who could be the remaining characters:

* Ash Team will be set to the Aurora Borialis stage shown in his trailer. The whole level theme fits Elizabeth perfectly, and its a safe guess Kukri will be the 3rd member.
* K' Team will be set to the Amusement Park stage shown in King's trailer. Kula fits the stage pretty well, and the 3rd member is either Maxima or Whip.
* Last team will be set to the Beach Sunset stage. From the stage's theme it can be safely assumed at least one Fatal Fury character will be on it, and Kim is the most likely candidate.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PeXXeR on October 29, 2021, 02:30:13 pm
At this point Im almost sure Rock wont make it and his probably going to be DLC.
Piss off SNK.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on October 29, 2021, 02:47:19 pm
Pardon me for my dumb question.
But when did Heidern had I rival?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on October 29, 2021, 02:50:50 pm
….. wait. Each of them have a rival on another team. Isla has Shun’ei. Dolores presumably has Kukri.


………. Rugal?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on October 29, 2021, 04:10:02 pm
………. Rugal?

Unlikely, since his team would be Mature & Vice (who are already out) or Adelheid and someone else that's associated with him... which is literally no one. And no, Rose ain't coming to fight.

Maybe Hein... but even that's stretching it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on October 29, 2021, 04:54:39 pm
Well, Rose is a fencer, so she could be made playable if they wanted.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on October 29, 2021, 06:24:54 pm
Maybe Hein... but even that's stretching it.
* Last team will be set to the Beach Sunset stage. From the stage's theme it can be safely assumed at least one Fatal Fury character will be on it, and Kim is the most likely candidate.
Geese's special team again just like kof97 and kof2003 where he hires Yamazaki to team up with Billy and Hein to investigate Verse
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on November 01, 2021, 04:30:59 pm
Weirdly, Heidern was an unexpected addition here, I assumed Najd would be with them...but maybe she could be in the final mystery team or shelved for this one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on November 01, 2021, 07:35:18 pm
Well, you may know about Isla and her profile:
(https://static.13.cl/7/sites/default/files/images/ocupload/isla-nueva-personaje-kof-chilena-alfajores.jpg)

The only I can say that whole Chile exploded with this announcement, not to mention the HUGE amount of memes about her, especially despicting her as a graffitti flaite (chilean thug) girl with the powers of Verse. For me it's just enough to get the preorder as soon as the game is released :bjugoi:
Spoiler: WTF is a chilenito? (click to see content)

Also Dolores, not sure about you, but for me... it remains a lot to Mukai with her stone powers, so Kukri as her rival is a pretty good choice BTW. Oh, and which other fighters aren't in a team apart of K' and Ash?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: ShiroTori on November 01, 2021, 10:20:16 pm
As of now, only K's, Ash's, and Kukri's teams haven't been confirmed.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on November 02, 2021, 04:03:09 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDJ0z5LaIAAjNMs?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on November 02, 2021, 07:16:39 pm
So it's likely she might be one highly played character if the moveset is impressive...So I am intrigued by one thing that is her relation with Kukri.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on November 04, 2021, 05:32:22 am
Rival team story is up: https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/kof-xv/teams/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on November 10, 2021, 04:20:49 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1458253179439947777

Looks more like Whip. Someone saying it's Elizabeth.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on November 10, 2021, 04:46:51 am
That's Whip, 100%.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on November 10, 2021, 05:10:34 am
Gonna be weird seeing K' in a team with no Maxima if his team is Kula and Whip.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 10, 2021, 11:45:19 am
100% Whip.
Unless either

-SNK makes fun of us
-Elisabeth is redesigned

... both are possible...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on November 10, 2021, 02:19:59 pm
I have a different theory on who it's gonna be
Spoiler: the man, the myth, the LEGEND (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: EgyLynx on November 10, 2021, 03:33:16 pm
Mhhmm... ? Oh?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on November 10, 2021, 04:40:28 pm
if that is whip, we get all five ikari warrior team members in the kofxv roster  :mlol:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 10, 2021, 05:24:30 pm
I have a different theory on who it's gonna be
Spoiler: the man, the myth, the LEGEND (click to see content)

LOL.
When I posted earlier, I was thinking how this character fan would manage to make his edit this time ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on November 10, 2021, 06:47:57 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1458253179439947777

That's Ash Crimson, without any doubt.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on November 10, 2021, 10:34:55 pm
It's Lenny
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on November 11, 2021, 03:15:14 am
WHIP, she looks good but her face looks a little weird like she is 10 years younger now
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on November 11, 2021, 06:54:05 am
I always liked how SNK made a female whip user that is not a generic dominatrix.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 11, 2021, 08:49:43 am
She still act and talk like a freaking dominatrix.

just she is NOT half naked, and have a storyline.

I'm not a Whip player, but she seems to be well done, like most of the revealed roster. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on November 11, 2021, 10:05:08 am
I always liked how SNK made a female whip user that is not a generic dominatrix.

Like Poison?

But yeah, I agree. I like the SNK design structure for her.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on November 11, 2021, 10:19:10 pm
She still act and talk like a freaking dominatrix.
I don't know her lines, but she really doesn't act like a dominatrix at all. She is very skilled with the whip, but her moves do not suggest sadism or anything sexual. They're mostly about throwing enemies around or even throwing herself into enemies.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on November 11, 2021, 10:53:29 pm
Would it hurt to like make her sleeveless and drop those Dr Frank N Furter gloves? Her uniform is just as uninspired as Quistis in Final Fantasy 8. LOL I still remember my sister describing Quistis' as 'utility girl'.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 11, 2021, 11:07:33 pm
She still act and talk like a freaking dominatrix.
I don't know her lines, but she really doesn't act like a dominatrix at all. She is very skilled with the whip, but her moves do not suggest sadism or anything sexual. They're mostly about throwing enemies around or even throwing herself into enemies.

I was refering to these kind of poses... the kind Ivy uses in SC.
(lazy big screencap - only sprites here ^^)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

+ the fact she uses japanese fictional domina cliché speech like :
"Mogake!" "Squirm!"
"Tsukamaeta!" "Nigasanai!" like "I've got you!" "You won't escape from me"

Plus many more less obvious, but still the same effect combined with these poses.

But again, what makes the character ok is her story and design (because she have clothes)
Even if, yes, she could have been a bit updated, like Leona, Ralf, Clark, Heidern...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on November 11, 2021, 11:15:20 pm
Yeah she does have that attack where she steps on the downed opponent's head repeatedly while laughing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on November 11, 2021, 11:21:58 pm
You're reading things where there aren't. The only pose that could be seem as seductive among those is the top right one, all others are just her moving the whip, and while "Squirm" certainly sounds like a dominatrix catchphrase, the others are very generic. At best, they added a hint of dominatrix, but Whip really doesn't go for that archetype overall.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 11, 2021, 11:24:41 pm
Yeah she does have that attack where she steps on the downed opponent's head repeatedly while laughing.

Exactly. To me, in this kind of move she looks as sick as Vice or Mature. (Or Iori crazy laugh ^^)

Whip really doesn't go for that archetype overall.

Yes, Whip is not a dominatrix, but sure she acts etc like one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on November 12, 2021, 12:00:07 am
Well I wouldn't say she's anywhere as aggressive or sick as Vice "I like the sound of bones breaking" or Mature who keeps describing how excited she is with all the moves where she draws blood, but it's pretty obvious with Whip that you can never really do a whip user without some playful teasing, even if you want to make a good person. What the fuck else can you write for a dialog when you have moves that strangle, hang, or drag on the ground a helpless target ? And the obvious inevitable hand-tying bondage of it all.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 12, 2021, 12:31:50 am
Well I wouldn't say she's anywhere as aggressive or sick as Vice "I like the sound of bones breaking" or Mature who keeps describing how excited she is with all the moves where she draws blood, but it's pretty obvious with Whip that you can never really do a whip user without some playful teasing, even if you want to make a good person. What the fuck else can you write for a dialog when you have moves that strangle, hang, or drag on the ground a helpless target ? And the obvious inevitable hand-tying bondage of it all.

Yes, that's right.
These 2 are even a level higher. with real aggressivity and craziness ^^;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on November 17, 2021, 06:51:50 am
Beta is available to download.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: HexagoN on November 17, 2021, 04:14:19 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FER7HA1aIAIG2Yp?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on November 17, 2021, 06:14:03 pm
Beta is available to download.
Uh ? The october trailer said it would be this week-end, and I don't see it on the PS store + the Sony web store keeps saying "something went wrong, try again later" when I try to "add it to my library". Are you DLing it early ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: senorfro on November 17, 2021, 11:51:54 pm
You're able to download it early, but the beta won't go live till the end of the week.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on November 18, 2021, 04:10:38 am
Team Ikari story revealed: https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/kof-xv/teams/

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on November 18, 2021, 01:47:22 pm
Beta is available to download.
Uh ? The october trailer said it would be this week-end, and I don't see it on the PS store + the Sony web store keeps saying "something went wrong, try again later" when I try to "add it to my library". Are you DLing it early ?

Yes, I already have it downloaded, I used the PS app, but even if the game starts, once you select an option it shows an "error" message, it would be playable at friday iirc.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on November 19, 2021, 03:15:51 am
On PS4, you'll have to go to the KOFXV game page on the store and scroll down to find the beta download
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SnkLover on November 20, 2021, 07:55:50 am
KOF XV Open Beta Test Complete OST:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on November 20, 2021, 01:00:03 pm
KOF XV Open Beta Test Complete OST:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

OK so few of them are a surprise alright.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on November 20, 2021, 02:26:52 pm
Criss.!  :nuttrox:

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on November 20, 2021, 04:05:41 pm
criss cross-ups
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on November 20, 2021, 04:46:46 pm
criss cross-ups

yeah its beautiful his combos possibilities
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on November 21, 2021, 03:38:42 am
Has anyone without PSPlus managed to play the demo ? The web store says you don't need PSPlus but the main menu only sends me to the subscription page and says it failed to initialize when I don't buy it. I thought the offline training would be available (the store even says you don't need a subscription even for the online test).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on November 24, 2021, 04:18:28 am
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1463327446720454656
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on November 24, 2021, 08:45:32 am
It's Ditto, from Pokemon!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 24, 2021, 11:21:24 am
Ditto :D

More seriously, If it's really Angel, I'm very glad this game feature both of my wrestling waifus... Her and Shermie
I hope her model and gameplay is great... just like the great work they did with Shermie.

I can't wait.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on November 24, 2021, 12:32:52 pm
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1463327446720454656

is  Rugal B from cvs2? nooo its angel because I cant confuse that ass  :coollove:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PeXXeR on November 24, 2021, 12:46:06 pm
Angel
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on November 24, 2021, 01:40:28 pm
So they're really going to make it as confusing as they possibly can until the very end on the team configurations then. Either the K' team or the final mystery team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on November 24, 2021, 03:01:52 pm
Angel? Ditto? Nah, it can only be one character and one character alone
Spoiler: the man, the myth, the LEGEND (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 24, 2021, 03:19:28 pm
Angel? Ditto? Nah, it can only be one character and one character alone
Spoiler: the man, the myth, the LEGEND (click to see content)


With all these previews, he could have his own game, with different gameplays, zoner, grappler, etc... ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on November 24, 2021, 05:09:26 pm
So Kim is as good as dead for this KoF, more or less.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on November 24, 2021, 05:20:22 pm
this might be the first KOF where he doesn't make an appearance, besides the first maximum impact
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on November 24, 2021, 06:45:07 pm
I mean, it's going to be Angel... but wouldn't it be hilarious if it turned out to be Vice? I mean, expectations shattered or just a serious WTF moment?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 24, 2021, 10:06:10 pm
I mean, it's going to be Angel... but wouldn't it be hilarious if it turned out to be Vice? I mean, expectations shattered or just a serious WTF moment?

Yes, again they kind of trolled us many times...
(even if this is nothing like what Arc Sys did with their try at silhouette preview...)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on November 25, 2021, 12:15:32 am
I feel like they gave up the lying / misleading silhouettes a while ago (they probably thought they were being cute but got some backlash), now they're just messing with us about the team formations ever since they confirmed that the roster would be slashed.
I'm not even keeping up with how agonizingly slow the reveals are. Are we holding the "one reveal every two weeks" rhythm or has it gotten worse ? Will we have the full roster before Christmas / 2022 ? Stay tuned ! (edit - still two weeks, so definitely not for this year)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 25, 2021, 12:31:01 am
I feel like they gave up the lying / misleading silhouettes a while ago (they probably thought they were being cute but got some backlash), now they're just messing with us about the team formations ever since they confirmed that the roster would be slashed.
I'm not even keeping up with how agonizingly slow the reveals are. Are we holding the "one reveal every two weeks" rhythm or has it gotten worse ? Will we have the full roster before Christmas / 2022 ? Stay tuned ! (edit - still two weeks, so definitely not for this year)

Yes, pretty true about silhouettes.
We can see how easy to guess can be some the last ones. Heidern etc.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on November 25, 2021, 03:07:44 am


My last prediction still stands.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on November 25, 2021, 03:08:23 am
 :coollove:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqWl3Gft-s[/youtube]

My last prediction still stands.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Beta158 on November 25, 2021, 03:21:29 am
Well it’s time to play one of my least favorite games, THICC or no THICC
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on November 25, 2021, 12:20:32 pm
hope she gets a new level 3 , xiv's one is kinda lame.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 25, 2021, 05:36:03 pm
hope she gets a new level 3 , xiv's one is kinda lame.

Yes, I'm quite curious about the actual move.After her 1st part of super pose, she seems to go for this overhead kick she do in her XIV's level 3.
But immediately after, she goes for another stance...

Also, why they don't show the move at all? Is it too "hot" for youtube?
I remember Luong's trailer only show first part of the move (before the actual riding/suggestive pose)

For angel's move, I hope they'll go for something more luchadora styled... anyway glad to see Angel, and glad she's in shape...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on November 25, 2021, 09:34:52 pm
idk too , i viewed the video over and over and it doesn't seem like there's a cut on her two poses my guess it is a new super.

noticed that her dashing hit grab isn't a hit grab anymore since it has a red spark like other command grabs.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: D.R.B on November 26, 2021, 11:57:40 am
hope she gets a new level 3 , xiv's one is kinda lame.

are you kidding? it was the best super in KOF history, if both she and Shermie lost they ability to use thei melons the way they did then thats one way to get me to lose intrest in them
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 26, 2021, 12:26:09 pm
hope she gets a new level 3 , xiv's one is kinda lame.

are you kidding? it was the best super in KOF history, if both she and Shermie lost they ability to use thei melons the way they did then thats one way to get me to lose intrest in them

Lol... ^^

Actually, I'm pretty sure Angel will keep the same move. And it's easier for them...
But for me, Shermie is perfect, but her level 3 is not so good. Just OK. I would have loved something more Shermiesque...
I like when level 3 is somewhat linked to signature moves of the character ^^
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Professor Voodoo on November 26, 2021, 01:51:01 pm
Dolores team Rival.!
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA58h0LXS_c[/youtube]

<3
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on November 26, 2021, 07:17:10 pm
I'm not even keeping up with how agonizingly slow the reveals are. Are we holding the "one reveal every two weeks" rhythm or has it gotten worse ? Will we have the full roster before Christmas / 2022 ? Stay tuned ! (edit - still two weeks, so definitely not for this year)

Boy, I sure can't wait for this year Christmas, when it's gonna be finally revealed that Kula will be in the game! :pwn::goi:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on November 29, 2021, 12:25:56 am
idk too , i viewed the video over and over and it doesn't seem like there's a cut on her two poses my guess it is a new super.

noticed that her dashing hit grab isn't a hit grab anymore since it has a red spark like other command grabs.

From the slide pictures on the official website, it seems like Angel is doing the bulldog move she use from her old Climax.

So we can think it's the same now, or a variation of this move.
Not a bad choice, at least, Angel will keep her sexy move... Even if I would have loved something a bit more interesting that this running bulldog slam.

But still I wonder what changed.
beside of the new 2nd super pose they put inbetween the start of the move.

The wait for this game is even longer now...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on November 30, 2021, 09:48:28 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFaBUyraIAA6Mxu?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on December 07, 2021, 02:24:33 pm
Damn the potential of this game 91 hit combo by Yashiro
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on December 07, 2021, 05:56:41 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFaBUyraIAA6Mxu?format=jpg&name=large)

her reveal video is already at 560k on Youtube which is impressive. The power of tits and ass is phenomenal.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on December 08, 2021, 12:22:41 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFaBUyraIAA6Mxu?format=jpg&name=large)

her reveal video is already at 560k on Youtube which is impressive. The power of tits and ass is phenomenal.

her moveset is really good looking no matter the power of her tits.xD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on December 08, 2021, 12:33:30 am
It’s the tits. It’s only the tits lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on December 08, 2021, 02:16:36 am
Just boobcause tits.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on December 10, 2021, 01:51:18 am
The next character announced at the Game Awards is...........
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nestor on December 10, 2021, 02:07:18 am
I can't believe they brought him back, but I'm really happy to see him and the whole roster, this is shaping to be a great KOF for me :).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: D.R.B on December 10, 2021, 02:20:33 am
tell me it's K9999 without telling me it's K9999
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on December 10, 2021, 02:24:26 am
Expectations SHATTERED. <3

Very pleased with this. Also big lol to all the people with no knowledge of K9999 and think this guy is a newcomer.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on December 10, 2021, 02:40:16 am
He may be one of the remnants of NEST or a prototype of K9999 and Nameless. 2nd Beta test is always welcome by the way you can give them your impressions and feedback on their Twitter and use this email info@snk-corp.co.jp
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on December 10, 2021, 03:02:05 am
I guess that proves the /neog/ leak correct and Elisabeth is gonna be the final surprise. But wow, K9999 is kind of back.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on December 10, 2021, 03:09:32 am
tell me it's K9999 without telling me it's K9999
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2FRFol66v8&ab_channel=SNKOFFICIAL[/youtube]

I saw that trailer like 5 times since it was released...

SNK, you got my wallet. First the Newfaces, now this guy... yeah, you got me to buy the game (or even I should buy the Deluxe Edition)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on December 10, 2021, 03:15:36 am
tell me it's K9999 without telling me it's K9999
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2FRFol66v8&ab_channel=SNKOFFICIAL[/youtube]

the leak with all the characters is real
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on December 10, 2021, 03:19:38 am
So, what does that mean for Nameless now that this guy is the actual factual yet rebooted Nines? 

They are better not prepping a multiverse split where different verisons of K' clones emerge and make those Mugen edits look official.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on December 10, 2021, 03:21:09 am
this K9999 at least looks like the old one
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on December 10, 2021, 03:24:28 am
lol, they had to cover everything up just to put him in game.
Sad to see Namless being shelved again, but welcome back K9999!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on December 10, 2021, 06:59:28 am
Bro--

https://twitter.com/ScotiaVIII/status/1469155746621403136

SNK really fucking jebaited us for 20 years.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 10, 2021, 07:14:04 am
Good to see they changed his name to something... not stupid.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 10, 2021, 08:48:20 am
He still has the stupid drill and cannon, but at least the design is not as shit anymore.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on December 10, 2021, 10:21:23 am
I never been a big fan of this Emo-Sakuke-esque-Nameless...
Particularly his ingame sprites, and the fact he replaces K9999.

THis new K9999 is pretty good, I would have not redesigned exactly like that, but still pretty good!

And Glad to see him back!!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on December 10, 2021, 10:58:09 am
im satisfied with the redesign though i wish they kept the force field super

it's weird not seeing his eyes though.

i wish we get a 2nd level 3 super for him , not the full screen super but a transformation like a dragon install removing his goggles and spiking up his hair.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on December 10, 2021, 04:32:41 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/4lUXvlE.png)

The man is back, this time for real! :c00l::goi:

Also, kinda ironically, Krohnen ends up being the first returning character in KOFXV that actually has a impactful character redesign/growth.


You managed to get my attention this time, SNK. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on December 10, 2021, 07:12:20 pm
Yes, definitely...
I did that for fun...
(https://i.imgur.com/qJvbkfB.jpg)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on December 10, 2021, 07:48:24 pm
I suppose the only thing that was holding them back was finding a redesign that they liked. Cause it was never internal blacklisting that kept K9999 out of it after all lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Miru962 on December 10, 2021, 10:27:36 pm
I suppose the only thing that was holding them back was finding a redesign that they liked. Cause it was never internal blacklisting that kept K9999 out of it after all lol

I wonder if anyone at SNK is interested in tracking down the rights to Love Heart, for that matter? Now that Highlights Entertainment has closed down, I don't know if it makes that easier or harder.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 10, 2021, 11:11:26 pm
Cause it was never internal blacklisting that kept K9999 out of it after all lol
I don't get this argument people are having and I don't even get who's arguing in what direction. They DID retire K9999 because of the design until they gave him something new, right ? This return with a new design proves it (not to mention Nameless nearly 20 years ago). I don't know if it was because of fear of copyright, or because they just didn't like using a rip-off design, but that's exactly what happened, isn't it ? They benched him because of his design. What even is the argument here about this blacklisting thing, who is saying what ?

Anyway, Krohnen gets pissed at "Kusanagi" but not Kyo himself, just his face, carrying a grudge with one of the other Kyos. It doesn't make much sense lore-wise because why would Krohnen be pissed at the mirror reflection, but they're really insistent on making that voice actor joke.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on December 10, 2021, 11:22:33 pm
I don't get this argument people are having and I don't even get who's arguing in what direction. They DID retire K9999 because of the design until they gave him something new, right ? This return with a new design proves it (not to mention Nameless nearly 20 years ago). I don't know if it was because of fear of copyright, or because they just didn't like using a rip-off design, but that's exactly what happened, isn't it ? They benched him because of his design. What even is the argument here about this blacklisting thing, who is saying what ?

So, for many years, K9999 was deemed a hated/blacklisted character within SNK. In official artbooks, his design was blacked out and redacted, and information on him was vague. He was even replaced with Nameless in 2k2UM. Statements from SNK made it appear that they simply hated the character, such as refusing to use his name and instead calling him "the one replaced by Nameless" or similar things. A lot of this can be attributed to the Tetsuo ripoff stuff, and SNK not liking the design due to it not being original. For example, Benimaru is based on Polnareff from JJBA, yet SNK still gave him a unique design, personality, and power-set. K9999 was basically just Tetsuo.

There's a lot of things -- fear of copyright, disdain towards an unoriginal design (SNK loves to pay homage, not to ripoff), probably other things. As a result, SNK seemed to just try and "retcon" him, by making him not actually part of the canon anymore. Apparently, SNK blacklisting anything related to this character was all a ruse -- they'd been planning on bringing him back for a long time but never found a good chance to do so, or couldn't find a good design.

And before anyone says "why not just use Nameless?", Nameless has a different story that would result in a plot-hole or retcon. Redesigning K9999 and reintroducing him to the story evades the plot-hole and it's easier to explain it away.

TL;DR SNK spent 20 years pretending that K9999 was an abomination who should've never happened, when in reality they were always planning to reinvent him and never found a chance to do it til now.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 10, 2021, 11:51:41 pm
So the argument was about SNK's feelings and future intentions about him and not the cause of retiring him then ? Weird. Oh well, it's the Internet.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on December 10, 2021, 11:58:30 pm
I never really partook in any arguments -- I dunno, people argue over a bunch of stuff. For the longest time though, SNK's public statement on K9999 was that he was "retired" from the series due to copyright issues and SNK's general disdain for his character (but the blacklisting was really just a lie).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on December 11, 2021, 02:18:24 am
Apparently, SNK blacklisting anything related to this character was all a ruse -- they'd been planning on bringing him back for a long time but never found a good chance to do so, or couldn't find a good design.
, when in reality they were always planning to reinvent him and never found a chance to do it til now.

That's actually one heck of a assumption, here. There's also the not small probability that they just didn't bother with reworking a controversial character during all these years, and just recently realised that some people actually would be interested in seeing the blue haired guy again in some way.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on December 11, 2021, 03:19:27 am
That's actually one heck of a assumption, here. There's also the not small probability that they just didn't bother with reworking a controversial character during all these years, and just recently realised that some people actually would be interested in seeing the blue haired guy again in some way.

My bad, I wasn't trying to assume -- I just figured this was the case after what Krispy Kaiser had said about the whole thing. The blacklist was a big ruse, though, that much is true.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on December 11, 2021, 04:03:09 am
That's actually one heck of a assumption, here. There's also the not small probability that they just didn't bother with reworking a controversial character during all these years, and just recently realised that some people actually would be interested in seeing the blue haired guy again in some way.

My bad, I wasn't trying to assume -- I just figured this was the case after what Krispy Kaiser had said about the whole thing. The blacklist was a big ruse, though, that much is true.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGN88HfX0Ag21_g?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Jmorphman on December 11, 2021, 07:38:33 am
TL;DR SNK spent 20 years pretending that K9999 was an abomination who should've never happened, when in reality they were always planning to reinvent him and never found a chance to do it til now.
I dunno, this all sounds as dubious and poorly sourced as all the rumors about how SNK couldn't use K9999 ever again because they were scared of being sued. People on Twitter are just making up this shit based on absolutely nothing, and then adding it to the SNK wiki using those baseless tweets as a source. It's all completely wack.

And yes, I've seen the Discord post by the English PR guy about K9999... but the way people are taking that statement are incredibly bizarre. There is no way this PR person has been working at SNK in the same position for 15 years straight. The most obvious and reasonable way to take that statement is to recognize that KOF XV has been in development for several years, and the development team had to have decided on the roster fairly early on. And thus, the PR person had to intentionally lie about K9999's chances until it was finally time to reveal him.

It would also be helpful to look back and think about how the other Eolith-made characters were treated in the years after 2001 and 2002: not a single one of them appeared in any game once SNK came back from the grave (as SNK Playmore), except of course the (re)releases of 2002 (this includes the glorified 2002 port, Neowave). Neither Angel nor May Lee even got referenced or made any cameos; it was a complete blackout of all mention of them. Of course, K9999 went beyond that because he was also full on replaced in 2002UM by Nameless, and also had a lot of his appearances in artwork scrubbed in various books and game galleries, but it wasn't like he'd be appearing in any games, even if that stuff hadn't happened, because he falls in the same boat as Angel and May Lee.

My suspicion is that after SNK's second reformation—after XIII's disappointing sales and subsequent wave of talent leaving the company (made up of the old guard who had stuck through at SNK even after its first death), and after the acquisition of SNK Playmore by that Chinese company who invested heavily into it and led directly to XIV—there was no longer anyone left at SNK who stood in the way of the return of the Eolith characters. And so, we had the most popular one, Angel, return in XIV, which was then followed by K999 in XV. It wouldn't be surprising at this point to have May Lee show up next.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on December 11, 2021, 10:02:07 am
He's back... Kinda.

K9999 hype time
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NGeo on December 11, 2021, 11:22:48 am
made this years ago for my Nests Game

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401587405028720651/919172011257921566/last_k_copy_copy.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on December 11, 2021, 04:38:34 pm
made this years ago for my Nests Game

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401587405028720651/919172011257921566/last_k_copy_copy.png)

Secret SNK employee I see.
Awesome edit.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 11, 2021, 05:58:49 pm
His hair and glasses remind me a lot of Alba Meira.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on December 14, 2021, 03:27:15 am
Krohnen's proper trailer dropped. If it wasn't obvious that he's K9999 with a new fresh coat of paint, then this trailer is proof of it:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on December 15, 2021, 03:45:08 pm
Move commands for the 2nd beta characters are now available

https://t.co/nWmvHSVOq4
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on December 15, 2021, 09:59:13 pm
There's a potential Elisabeth leak too. Sorry for linking to a Youtuber, but I'm too lazy to upload the image itself to imgur.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on December 15, 2021, 11:18:30 pm
Spoiler: DLC notes (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on December 15, 2021, 11:53:28 pm
I've a bad feeling that these bosses will be a pain in the ass. Also, they might be unplayable.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: no1wammy on December 16, 2021, 12:13:08 am
R.I.P. Pretzel Motion. Krohnen's supers are now simplified.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on December 16, 2021, 12:27:44 am
RIP Kim. We will see a return of pants heaven another day
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 16, 2021, 12:57:40 am
I don't get why Kula would switch teams like that, Whip would have been fine in a team that calls itself anti-NESTS.
I'm happy with the DLC teams (looking forward to the "young" team), and that Elisabeth looks amazing.
I don't know if I want them to go the SF5 route and keep the game alive with DLC, or go straight for the dream match XVI with another graphic update and touched up designs (are Ryo and Robert ever going to look good some day ?). Depends if the XV system ends up shitting itself, I guess.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on December 16, 2021, 01:21:47 am
I've a bad feeling that these bosses will be a pain in the ass. Also, they might be unplayable.

The only KOF bosses I've enjoyed playing against were Orochi and Mukai.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on December 16, 2021, 04:09:04 am


Climax DMs
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 16, 2021, 06:15:46 am
Spoiler: DLC notes (click to see content)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on December 16, 2021, 06:59:14 am
All these years in development and they seriously could not give anything new for K's DM.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on December 16, 2021, 10:04:46 am
I've a bad feeling that these bosses will be a pain in the ass. Also, they might be unplayable.

The only KOF bosses I've enjoyed playing against were Orochi and Mukai.

What I meant to say is that they could be unplayable due being a unfair matches. Last time a character was unplayable was Dural from Virtua Fighter 5 Ultimate Showdown and for example, Meta Knight in Smash Bros Brawl, being playable yes, but being banned in Smash Tourney.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on December 16, 2021, 12:00:56 pm
TL;DR SNK spent 20 years pretending that K9999 was an abomination who should've never happened, when in reality they were always planning to reinvent him and never found a chance to do it til now.
My suspicion is that after SNK's second reformation—after XIII's disappointing sales and subsequent wave of talent leaving the company (made up of the old guard who had stuck through at SNK even after its first death), and after the acquisition of SNK Playmore by that Chinese company who invested heavily into it and led directly to XIV—there was no longer anyone left at SNK who stood in the way of the return of the Eolith characters. And so, we had the most popular one, Angel, return in XIV, which was then followed by K999 in XV. It wouldn't be surprising at this point to have May Lee show up next.

Well, that does make some justification of his absence from future titles until now, though I am glad to see both return back in this title, But my concern is that Luong might be a new replacement for Maylee or unless she gets a redo of design as well which could lessen the Kamen Rider reference and add a bit of Chae Lim's design to her (AKA giving Maylee a KROHNEN treatment), then she might join in.

Given that Kim and of course the select few others from previous games (even Shingo despite the dedicated manga) are now shelved for this game. The next game could have him and Gang-il and those 3 return. Maybe then we'll see if they give Maylee a chance.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on December 16, 2021, 05:17:55 pm
There's a potential Elisabeth leak too. Sorry for linking to a Youtuber, but I'm too lazy to upload the image itself to imgur.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPdlV_Ld6Ns[/youtube]

Not available anymore, there is a supposed leak that was confirmed when k9999 new form was announced, but that doesnt include the Orochi trio.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on December 16, 2021, 05:24:57 pm
The DLC leak came just after Krohnen and deduces the full list out of datamining IDs and relationships and team composition triggers. The Orochi trio just has their names, no deduction.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on December 16, 2021, 07:25:47 pm
I don't get why Kula would switch teams like that, Whip would have been fine in a team that calls itself anti-NESTS.

Both teams are a throwback to KoF 2002.



I don't really have anything substantial to say about the potentially leaked roster, so... DLC wishlist time!

• Team Maximum Impact (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/KOF_Maximum_Impact_Regulation_%22A%22) *
• Team Howling Blood (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/The_King_of_Fighters_EX2:_Howling_Blood)
• Team World Heroes (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/World_Heroes_(series))
• Team Bosses (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/The_King_of_Fighters_%2796#Bosses_Team)

* (You could even put Rock, B.Jenet or Fio in a MI team and it could still work! The potential is big.)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Mysticus92 on December 16, 2021, 10:49:16 pm
Alright. Here's my DLC wishlist.


• Team Pretty Girls (Alice, Hotaru and Hinako)
• Team Strong Boys (Shingo, Kensou and Bao)
• Team Shadow (Eiji, Lin and Najd)
• Team NeoBlood (Moe Habana, Reiji Oogami and Jun Kagami)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on December 17, 2021, 12:22:41 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGxkgqTaAAAF7GL?format=jpg&name=large)
K9999 Krohnen's design comment.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on December 17, 2021, 03:35:56 pm
 :magneto:
Can't wait to the the 2nd beta and finally test him, oh man... :D
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on December 18, 2021, 02:38:00 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGxkgqTaAAAF7GL?format=jpg&name=large)
K9999 Krohnen's design comment.

To me, K9999 is Krohnen but cut ties with NEST completely after it was fallen in 2001. Also changing his name afterward or his name originally. That man might return Igniz (The most cheapest boss ever made)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SnkLover on December 18, 2021, 07:13:36 am
KOF XV Open Beta Test 2 Complete OST:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on December 19, 2021, 03:05:56 am
I just tested the beta and I say it's way better than XIV in gameplay and characters look great... and the palettes have cool references too (like Blue Mary's palette 3 or 4, which are the colors of her first appearance on Fatal Fury 3) and even some Terry palettes that would remind you about Sol badguy XD

And I confirmed it, of first hand: KROHNEN IS K9999!! He plays the same as in 2k1-2k2, the vibe is the same in-game and the supers are easier to make. A delightful character I must say. I'm so excited with him that I just made homecosplay of him (https://www.instagram.com/p/CXoPQF4L43I/) and a meme that represents me playing the beta (https://imgur.com/a/JBBcEQ2)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on December 19, 2021, 04:44:22 am
I just tested the beta and I say it's way better than XIV in gameplay and characters look great... and the palettes have cool references too (like Blue Mary's palette 3 or 4, which are the colors of her first appearance on Fatal Fury 3) and even some Terry palettes that would remind you about Sol badguy XD

And I confirmed it, of first hand: KROHNEN IS K9999!! He plays the same as in 2k1-2k2, the vibe is the same in-game and the supers are easier to make. A delightful character I must say. I'm so excited with him that I just made homecosplay of him (https://www.instagram.com/p/CXoPQF4L43I/) and a meme that represents me playing the beta (https://imgur.com/a/JBBcEQ2)

it nice to hear it
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on December 23, 2021, 03:28:25 am

He is back too.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on December 23, 2021, 10:00:50 am
Yes... obviously :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on December 23, 2021, 10:32:06 am
Face is better than what I saw in the leak, but I wish he got one of his old Supers back somewhat (Bunker Buster or Maxima Revenger).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on December 23, 2021, 08:54:52 pm
This just confirms the leak, so the next 2 should be...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on December 23, 2021, 09:36:31 pm
I've managed to play the second beta, along with Krohnen (It's K9999, still a new design and back from the dead) and boy, it makes me a KOF fan again. Forget SF and screw with VF (I'm not a fan of the VF franchise anymore), this will be my new fighting game of 2022.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Genosan742 on December 24, 2021, 07:10:25 pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6VFmMiXLG0[/youtube]
He is back too.

Maxima's face in the video thumbnail reminds me of M.O.D.O.K.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on December 28, 2021, 02:04:17 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHqN1EmaQAMXezh?format=jpg&name=large)

SNK is taking a winter break from Dec. 24 to Jan. 4
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1474304879560892429
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 06, 2022, 03:20:34 am
Team KROHNEN
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on January 06, 2022, 03:37:22 am
So, no Takuma, Daimon, Kim or any of the veteran traditional fighters except Heidern this time huh (since we all know who the last two are going to be).
Kind of sad, but always happy to see new faces.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 06, 2022, 04:45:32 am
Kula getting a move and setup from Kolin is what I was not expecting.

(Appearently that move is supposedly from Maximum Impact?)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on January 06, 2022, 12:29:46 pm
Man, those tiny-little references to Maximum Impact are what really kills me. ¬_¬

Would it hurt so much to make up some new canon for just one of the dudes from that series? I mean, considering that freaking Ash Crimson and K99rohnen can make it back, with the latter even passing up as a 'totally unseen brand new character' by some people...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 06, 2022, 06:10:06 pm
Nice! I can't wait to play this game, finally!

Still not fan of post KofXIII Kula design, but anyway. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on January 07, 2022, 02:13:58 am
I saw the trailer and I just think...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on January 07, 2022, 04:50:36 pm
These last names for a team sounds so neutral.
Team K', they should be called Team Anti-NESTS.
Team Krohnen, they should be called Team Clone.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on January 07, 2022, 07:32:35 pm
Inb4 the final team is revealed to be called, "Team Ash".
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 07, 2022, 07:35:32 pm
I don't even know what else it could be.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on January 08, 2022, 05:15:50 pm
Inb4 the final team is revealed to be called, "Team Ash".

How original...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on January 09, 2022, 05:57:08 pm
It fits well with the overall amount of originality that this game oozes- *cough cough*...


I don't even know what else it could be.

From what we know, the final character could always be revealed to be Hyena (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Hyena), in which alongside Ash and Kukri, appropriately creates the "Team Absurdly Cool Boyz"! :nutrox:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on January 09, 2022, 08:47:26 pm
I don't even know what else it could be.

From what we know, the final character could always be revealed to be Hyena (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Hyena), in which alongside Ash and Kukri, appropriately creates the "Team Absurdly Cool Boyz"! :nutrox:
...yeah, I think I'd rather have Elizabeth, thank you very much.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Diek Stiekem on January 11, 2022, 03:21:08 pm
Arguably KOF 15’s launch roster leaves something be desired.

Sure, Kim Kapwan missing is very akward to say the least, but to me personally, where are all the villains?

Geese Howard? Vice & Mature? Rugal? Krizalid?

I could go on.

 

What remotely close do we have?

 

(Of course) Iori is there, but especially in Team Sacred Treasures he’s more of a tweener (wrestling term).

 

Kukri, since he was the antagonist in SNK Heroines, but I see him more as a jerk and a pervert.

 

Does CYS (Orochi forms aside) even count?

They’re a band and Shermie (bless her) is too busy with fashion and hamsters to care XD

 

 

Now I know Geese is heavily rumored to have his own dlc team (which is good) but it is not a given.

I’m surprised he’s not a launch roster character since he’s popular (enough to be in Tekken 7)

 

Consider the whole “Verse souls ressurrected” thing.

I’m also fairly baffled that there’s no Rugal team, Rugal/Mature/Vice is such a missed opportunity.

Heck having no Vice & Mature is weird to begin with.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on January 11, 2022, 04:53:25 pm
Yes, the lack of villains is a bit awkward indeed. Would love to see both Geese Howard and Wolfgang Krauser in this installment, but alas, hopefully for DLC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 11, 2022, 07:12:21 pm
The DLC rumors come from datamine and are almost certain. 4 teams, two of which are villains, plus 2 bosses.
Geese hasn't been in KOF between 96 and XIV beside 2002 so clearly he's not quite popular enough for a permanent guaranteed spot.
And yes, CYS are villains, just pretending to be nice. But they don't act like villains so I guess they don't really count, yeah. (maybe they will act more like secret villains in the story while still pretending to be nice, but then again, since Verse is the main antagonist, maybe not)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: D.R.B on January 11, 2022, 07:17:05 pm
Yes, the lack of villains is a bit awkward indeed. Would love to see both Geese Howard and Wolfgang Krauser in this installment, but alas, hopefully for DLC.

Do people remember KOF 94? The closer characters we got as villains were Choi and Chang and the true villain only showed up as a final boss

I think we may only get legit villain as a final boss unless people count Yoshiro/Chris/Shermie as the villians this time
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 11, 2022, 09:11:17 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIyUDlvaAAEMG8P?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on January 14, 2022, 02:38:44 pm
I dislike the lack of villains as well (weird that the story sets resurrection up so much and then only leans into it for CYS) but I think Angel, Krohnen and Kula might lean more into antagonistic roles this time around too. If they plan on having a story mode then there's gotta be at least something other than CYS and the final boss.

I think they focussed more on upping the graphics of the excisting cast to show the jump in quality as opposed to reviving older characters. I really hope SNK starts pulling characters from across their entire library again to really put that crossover flavour back into KoF. So far the most exciting reveal, to me, was still the Metal Slug stage lol (RIP Team Metal Slug dream though).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 14, 2022, 02:46:07 pm
If they plan on having a story mode then there's gotta be at least something other than CYS and the final boss.
We've seen two things in the trailers :
- they have rival encounters for probably everyone, probably barely a few scenes, if even more than one
- the "main" story will focus on some scenes here and there between Shun'ei and the new girls, and mayyyybe Heidern will actually be relevant in that, and then the final boss
That's it, that's what a story mode in a fighting game is. I have zero expectation for any story mode like the latest SF and MK and whatever.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on January 14, 2022, 08:51:43 pm
I dislike the lack of villains as well (weird that the story sets resurrection up so much and then only leans into it for CYS) but I think Angel, Krohnen and Kula might lean more into antagonistic roles this time around too.
KOF has never had that many playable villains in the same game. The lack of villains is a non issue.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 15, 2022, 05:04:45 am
That's it, that's what a story mode in a fighting game is. I have zero expectation for any story mode like the latest SF and MK and whatever.

That's a good thing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 15, 2022, 12:23:13 pm
Look at me, I don't like a good story and I'm happy when the entire gaming industry makes fun of the fighting game genre for having garbage no-effort writing
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 20, 2022, 03:04:37 am
Team ASH


I wasnt expecting her gameplay were fun
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 20, 2022, 03:09:02 am
Her model looks gorgeous and I really love the light effects she's got. What a wonderful transition to 3D she's made, honestly.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on January 20, 2022, 05:06:29 am
All 39 characters are revealed, now its just the boss and maybe teasers for the upcoming DLC content that are going to be in pre-order package.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 20, 2022, 08:17:46 am
WOW!!!

I've never been into Elisabeth. Particularly her style etc.
But this version looks incredible.

I freaking love her design, what a great style upgrade...

And her moves are well converted here...
One more reason to get my interest into this game...

The wait will be long!!!

EDIT : I had to do that... <3
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 20, 2022, 09:23:32 am
All 39 characters are revealed, now it's just the boss and maybe teasers for the upcoming DLC content that are going to be in pre-order package.

SNK is the very few developers that understand what DLC really is it should always be an expansion of the game not just to add what's missing. Also, the cosmetics are not misleading. Classic outfits are always welcome.

Now the roster is now complete

By the way, the Omega version is available in North America which was announced in Europe.
(https://www.siliconera.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/KOF-XV-Omega-Edition-Confirmed-for-North-America-710x400.jpeg)
https://www.siliconera.com/kof-xv-omega-limited-edition-confirmed-for-north-america/
If bills are not in the way I'll buy it in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on January 20, 2022, 11:18:54 am
Team ASH
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFnTDOfb9BA[/youtube]

I wasnt expecting her gameplay were fun

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on January 20, 2022, 12:56:39 pm
Well, well... It was Betty all along, even she was leaked before, but hey good to see her again.
Also, i'm not even gonna complain this team names, i know what you guys are gonna say.

This roster has sold me, cause of Krohnen and some favs of mine got in too. Too bad for Alice, Kim and Billy aren't in, hope there's a room or more for a DLC. It may not be a bigger roster than in KOF XIV, but i'm happy of how this roster has been made. Never in my life of how i got to be a fan of KOF ever since CVS (It's a crossover game, but it has SNK chars in it) and got to know these characters from old to new.

Let's see how long this series is gonna be long like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on January 20, 2022, 09:32:52 pm
Let's see how long this series is gonna be long like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat.

Uhm, SF2 came out in 91, MK in 92 and KOF '94 in... well, 94. All three series have been running pretty strong since.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 20, 2022, 09:55:40 pm
He's talking about DLC support lasting for several years.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on January 21, 2022, 01:00:57 am
He's talking about DLC support lasting for several years.

Ah, utterly my bad!  If KOFXV got the same sort of rolling DLC/Upgrades as SFV or MK11... that'd just be amazing!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 21, 2022, 01:37:38 am
SNK will use the same season pass model they used with Samurai Shodown.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PBRTODD101 on January 21, 2022, 03:12:12 am
Oh okay cool so basically Kim will be milked for DLC two years from now
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on January 21, 2022, 01:10:43 pm
they are probably playing the safe route for their DLCs.

a returning character + 2 new ones or a character that hasn't been in 13/14. hopefully kim's team would be with his sons or at least one of them.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 21, 2022, 01:42:47 pm
Kim's sons aren't happening, they're still kids in kof.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 21, 2022, 03:40:35 pm
Kim's sons aren't happening, they're still kids in kof.

Right. I don't think they will make it to this game. Even in DLC
However, Rock is in KOFXIV...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 21, 2022, 06:38:15 pm
Kim/Jhun/May Lee for DLC maybe?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 21, 2022, 06:43:30 pm
You guys know that the 4 DLC teams (presumably, year one of DLC, maybe year two as well) have been datamined since the second beta ? That question is already answered in it.
Also I don't think we'll get the Kim kids for a long time in KoF when they can just bring back the dad and Jhun.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 21, 2022, 07:46:39 pm
You guys know that the 4 DLC teams (presumably, year one of DLC, maybe year two as well) have been datamined since the second beta ?

I avoid leaks like the plague so while I know speculation is useless, it’s all I have to go off of til I’m surprised by whatever is officially revealed lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on January 21, 2022, 08:33:16 pm
Let's see how long this series is gonna be long like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat.

Uhm, SF2 came out in 91, MK in 92 and KOF '94 in... well, 94. All three series have been running pretty strong since.

Yup, pretty much.

He's talking about DLC support lasting for several years.

I'm talking of how these fighting games have been started in general.

Kim's sons aren't happening, they're still kids in kof.

If Rock Howard is in, any in KOF can happen by the power writing and time traveling.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 22, 2022, 03:02:11 am
You guys know that the 4 DLC teams (presumably, year one of DLC, maybe year two as well) have been datamined since the second beta?

Seriously, why people are treating this as if it is 100% official and set in stone? Those names are just placeholders and don't really mean the dlc is set in stone.

Remember how people datamined MK11 and it said Ash from Evil Dead was gonna be in the game (there were even sound files in the data), yet he never appeared in the game. The same also happened with MvC3 (datamined said Doc Ock would be in) and MvCI (same thing but with Gill).

If Rock Howard is in, any in KOF can happen by the power writing and time traveling.

Literally two games ago:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Besides, there's no point in having them while having Kim at the same time. One of them is literally just Kim with another name both in character and gameplay.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on January 22, 2022, 03:24:41 am
You guys know that the 4 DLC teams (presumably, year one of DLC, maybe year two as well) have been datamined since the second beta?

Seriously, why people are treating this as if it is 100% official and set in stone? Those names are just placeholders and don't really mean the dlc is set in stone.

Remember how people datamined MK11 and it said Ash from Evil Dead was gonna be in the game (there were even sound files in the data), yet he never appeared in the game. The same also happened with MvC3 (datamined said Doc Ock would be in) and MvCI (same thing but with Gill).

If Rock Howard is in, any in KOF can happen by the power writing and time traveling.

Literally two games ago:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Besides, there's no point in having them while having Kim at the same time. One of them is literally just Kim with another name both in character and gameplay.



yeah if any kim brother had to be in it probably be dong hwan due to having a unique moveset compared to jae hoon
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on January 22, 2022, 04:22:47 pm
You guys know that the 4 DLC teams (presumably, year one of DLC, maybe year two as well) have been datamined since the second beta ? That question is already answered in it.

What's the most complete list of "actually datamined stuff"? If I remember correctly, the closest we ever had to a potential leak (besides the pics of the base roster, of course) was just that one guy who accurately foreshadowed Krohnen's inclusion; and the only other thing he really said besides that was that _____* is gonna be in at some point.

Spoiler: * (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on January 22, 2022, 05:26:39 pm
Beta 2 had the full list, not with names but with ID numbers along with "categories" (young woman, older man, villain, has a connection with character #D12 etc., the IDs for the characters that were in XIV already remained the same, the IDs of non-returning characters don't show up) so Reddit did a thing and identified everyone based on their relationships and IDs. 4 teams, one "extra" boss (the one in your spoiler) and an actual boss that is not clear if it'll be playable.
It's not 100% guaranteed but it's pretty damn close.
Spoiler: the list (click to see content)
edit - checked Reddit again and I forgot one extra boss but we don't know anything about that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on January 22, 2022, 08:17:41 pm
Ah, I remember those names... I guess the page where I looked that info didn't bother mentioning about IDs/categories, and them being the closest match to it. Or I just overlooked that part, it's a really likely possibility too. Anyway, thanks for the info. :P


And by the way, this selection of characters is... weirdly fitting with the overall aesthetic that this game implies to be moving towards to.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on January 23, 2022, 12:47:19 am
i still would think it be really lazy if they made the orochi versions of CYS dlc.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: no1wammy on January 23, 2022, 08:02:26 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on January 23, 2022, 08:35:27 am
Well, if get a new teaser or reveal of the boss then it would garner some hype for sure?

i still would think it be really lazy if they made the orochi versions of CYS dlc.

Although...I believe it might be due to 'internal reasons', I would think they would make it pre-order bundle.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on January 23, 2022, 10:06:46 am
i still would think it be really lazy if they made the orochi versions of CYS dlc.

That's the most laziest DLC pack for this team I've ever read it. Don't forget on what Capcom did in Ultra Street Fighter 4 that ends with a Cammy clone or Shadow Jago in Killer Instinct (2013).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on January 23, 2022, 10:51:01 am
i still would think it be really lazy if they made the orochi versions of CYS dlc.

That's the most laziest DLC pack for this team I've ever read it. Don't forget on what Capcom did in Ultra Street Fighter 4 that ends with a Cammy clone or Shadow Jago in Killer Instinct (2013).

In the case of Shago, they weren't entirely sure how well KI would really do. The first release had a paltry roster of just 6 characters and the Shago skin was a bonus reward for people who got the Xbox one when it came out.
Shago didn't get his own moveset until he became a secret boss when Fulgore came out and the playable version didn't have his own moveset until much later.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 24, 2022, 01:12:46 am
This one is made by a fan but if someone could mod the steam version to have that lifebar or have SNK pull off a Tekken 7 and have custom lifebars.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJzGCIpXIAYv3W-?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJzGGglXEAY2ZEs?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 24, 2022, 01:50:40 am
i still would think it be really lazy if they made the orochi versions of CYS dlc.

That's the most laziest DLC pack for this team I've ever read it. Don't forget on what Capcom did in Ultra Street Fighter 4 that ends with a Cammy clone or Shadow Jago in Killer Instinct (2013).
I mean, Decapre doesn't play one bit like Cammy, though, hell, she doesn't even play like Juni in SFA3, despite being a charge character.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on January 24, 2022, 10:34:32 pm
Krohnen ... McDougall?!
https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/kof-xv/teams/

Quote
Whip raises her eyebrows and bluntly addresses the pair.
"Your mission: make contact with this man—known as Krohnen McDougall—capture him, and rescue Kula. To that end, the three of us will enter the tournament together."

Edit: Oh, apparently there are some meta references as to why the Surname
https://twitter.com/OmegaAmen/status/1485466858513907713
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on January 24, 2022, 11:43:41 pm
Krohnen ... McDougall?!
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d8/a5/c3/d8a5c3f8a20632df43048dfd69b8e38c--outlaw-star-the-ojays.jpg)
If I don't read the tweet before, I only could think of this :msurprised:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on January 25, 2022, 12:21:21 am
Being the anime newbie that I am, the only thing I remembered was Fighter's History's Ray McDougal (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Ray_McDougal).

Wait a min... Fighter's History!? Is this a KOF: Maximum Impact reference!!!??? :wth:

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: rgveda99 on January 25, 2022, 09:32:04 am
Looks like it still has the same problem. I had a tough time mastering this (97-99). Stopped at 2000 and just mostly watching it. Didn't played it for years since most of my friends at the arcade were playing MVC2 and I had to relearn everything again.



They should really bring back KOF:MI. That one was really newbie friendly even for Tekken players.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 25, 2022, 10:22:15 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJ6aScjUUAAORb-?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 27, 2022, 02:10:43 pm
DLC trailer

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on January 27, 2022, 03:14:54 pm
I just saw it and loved it, even his MOTW theme was played in the trailer, wonderful ;D

I hope they make more DLC costumes for other chars as this and the upcoming Classic Leona (probably the next trailer), maybe a Tizoc costume for KOD or a Classic Shermie :muttrox:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on January 27, 2022, 04:19:43 pm
Koch Media just confirmed the pre-order process for NA is going through GAME STOP and it's basically US only.

https://twitter.com/KochMedia/status/1486636131332595712

Which is a huge ass bummer, I wanted to buy this through Amazon to ship to Mexico :disappointed:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nestor on January 27, 2022, 04:27:17 pm
I wanted to order it through Amazon too, I even tried to register at Gamestop but they only send within US only :( ended up preordering the regular edition.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on January 27, 2022, 08:59:52 pm
Being the anime newbie that I am, the only thing I remembered was Fighter's History's Ray McDougal (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Ray_McDougal).

Wait a min... Fighter's History!? Is this a KOF: Maximum Impact reference!!!??? :wth:

:mmg:
ugh, seriously?
do people these day have not a single clue on what the hell Fighter's History is?!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on January 27, 2022, 10:33:59 pm
Which is a huge ass bummer, I wanted to buy this through Amazon to ship to Mexico :disappointed:
My only hope is to buy it for eBay when it's released, unless SNK has its online store with shippings to Chile or Latinamerica in general :deal2:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 31, 2022, 03:31:57 am
DLC trailer 2

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 31, 2022, 03:42:33 am
DLC trailer 2

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyUAGcecGuc[/youtube]

Leona feels the pressure oh yeah.!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on January 31, 2022, 11:08:12 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKZiyzRVUAEOlY9?format=jpg&name=medium)

Famitsu's 2/27/21 Issue will feature KOFXV on its cover
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on February 01, 2022, 03:05:39 am
OUTTA NOWHERE

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 01, 2022, 03:49:28 am
OUTTA NOWHERE

[youtube]https://youtu.be/QlyzD75j0JM[/youtube]

I like it
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 01, 2022, 03:50:35 am
OUTTA NOWHERE

[youtube]https://youtu.be/QlyzD75j0JM[/youtube]

SNK really shattering all expectations now. Jesus lmao
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on February 01, 2022, 04:56:58 am
OUTTA NOWHERE

[youtube]https://youtu.be/QlyzD75j0JM[/youtube]

ROCK IS BACK!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Seadragon77 on February 01, 2022, 06:19:05 am
Along with Gato and B. Jenet. Nice... Was hoping for Kushnood Butt, but this works well... and of course you can't have a KoF game without Geese and Billy, but Yamazaki is with them? What, the butler is too busy with something or what??
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on February 01, 2022, 06:37:36 am
Spoiler: DLC future (click to see content)

Suit Geese is something I never thought we see again.  Which means time to fork up another $5 for his classic look soon.

What, the butler is too busy with something or what??
More like not many are excited for Hein to begin with as most don't even remember his name.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on February 01, 2022, 06:52:37 am
So the leak list is already turning out to be true?

Damn.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on February 01, 2022, 08:29:08 am
OUTTA NOWHERE

[youtube]https://youtu.be/QlyzD75j0JM[/youtube]

ROCK IS BACK!

There, see? I told you that anything could happen again.

Spoiler: DLC future (click to see content)

(https://c.tenor.com/17rPDs5UeyIAAAAd/jontron-i-dont-like-where-this-is-going.gif)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on February 01, 2022, 09:54:34 am
12 chars in a year of DLC? Must be a new record TBH.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 01, 2022, 10:33:09 am
Both Geese and Billy in a suit, that looks cool. And yeah, Geese's hakama will be another DLC, possibly same for Billy... (which is fucked since that's the costumes they had in XIV, at least maybe they'll be in a pack)
I was afraid it would take 2 years for 4 teams, I'm glad it'll be only one (that means they're not just beginning work on them now). I wonder where they'll fit the bosses.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on February 01, 2022, 11:26:20 am
I'm so happy Gatou has his dp+k from MotW, but in exchange he seems to have lost the KOF exclusive "jump into the air and use a button for a follow up" move.

Also, after about 20 years I learn that Jenet is pronounced the same as Jenny.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on February 01, 2022, 02:23:26 pm
OUTTA NOWHERE

[youtube]https://youtu.be/QlyzD75j0JM[/youtube]
(https://c.tenor.com/67PjHCxzfpMAAAAC/fry-mymoney.gif)
If I was (a little little little bit) undecided to get this game, after these DLCs I'll totally buy the game ASAP
The Garou Team makes my heart happy and the news of that South Town Team makes me happy x2
Also...

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on February 01, 2022, 03:18:52 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/Yxz9SeY.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/CHXfCDx.png)

This is the closest we'll ever get to Maximum Impact related content in a new KOF; now be freaking happy about it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on February 01, 2022, 04:24:35 pm
geese in suit can only make me think of his moveset from art of fighting 2 and kof neowave
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on February 01, 2022, 06:13:16 pm
Ok, not going to lie... didn't expect Gato to look so good,  I'll have to check XIV again, I don't remember Rock's Deadly Rave Neo ending on a Raging Storm?  B. Jenet's Many Many Bullets can be done mid-air?

Actually, who cares? I have Geese again! I honestly can't wait for this now!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on February 01, 2022, 07:31:18 pm
The wait will be very very very long...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 01, 2022, 08:32:58 pm
I'll have to check XIV again, I don't remember Rock's Deadly Rave Neo ending on a Raging Storm?
It doesn't, that's new.
I hate it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on February 01, 2022, 09:39:48 pm
i don't like rock and gato's lvl 3. rock has the kof standard pillar fire in his case it's wind , for gato i was expecting more forceful and brutal lvl3 not just maximum gato.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on February 01, 2022, 10:10:32 pm
I feel like the DR Neo end is rather strange. I don't mind the massive blast but I'd rather make it multi-hit or put it towards the original burst-forward animation.
I don't mind Gato's either (gives me Guy vibes), but I wish the Tenryuu Retsu-Ga was there, but they probably just wanted to keep the super amount for each char consistent though or thought it wasn't impactful enough.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on February 01, 2022, 10:38:46 pm
It doesn't, that's new.
I hate it.

I'm with you on that, it just looks... weird.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Eric The Nihilist on February 02, 2022, 01:57:32 am
Welp, I now have team Bad Guys, so I'm happy.

I think its funny how there are still people doubting the leaks at this point.

Kind of lame that they are wasting an entire DLC team on the Orochi palette swaps.

But lets get wishlisting for Season 2.

I legit want team USA (maybe swap Brian for Duck King), and I know this will never happen, but a Vice/Mature/Adel team would be so hype.  (Although the latter is more likely then team USA)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 02, 2022, 02:06:35 am
Kind of lame that they are wasting an entire DLC team on the Orochi palette swaps.
Okay, how is a completely different moveset and playstyle not good enough for some people here ? Is an alternate costume on the same character with the same moves where you put the line ? If they have a different uniform, will that be good enough ? Hell, the base versions all have new outfits right now, if the Orochi versions have the original outfits, will that do it for you ? What if they have the same outfit as the base version, but the original outfits are separate DLC, will that work ?
You guys have to let that palette swap nonsense go already.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on February 02, 2022, 02:33:05 am
Kind of lame that they are wasting an entire DLC team on the Orochi palette swaps.
Okay, how is a completely different moveset and playstyle not good enough for some people here ? Is an alternate costume on the same character with the same moves where you put the line ? If they have a different uniform, will that be good enough ? Hell, the base versions all have new outfits right now, if the Orochi versions have the original outfits, will that do it for you ? What if they have the same outfit as the base version, but the original outfits are separate DLC, will that work ?
You guys have to let that palette swap nonsense go already.

Personally I feel like that it could be used for other characters besides rehashing CYS again, like yaknow, Kim. But also personally, we don't need the orochi versions anymore, as they were only there for 97, 98, 2002, etc, because 97 had them and the games after had them based on 97, but XV is the next line in the story, they got new tech, new supers, you name it (much like Kyo or Geese gaining and replacing moves). They don't need their orochi forms to be cool, how they are, like any character in XV, feels very good to play.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on February 02, 2022, 06:36:54 am
Welp, I now have team Bad Guys, so I'm happy.

I think its funny how there are still people doubting the leaks at this point.

Kind of lame that they are wasting an entire DLC team on the Orochi palette swaps.

But lets get wishlisting for Season 2.

I legit want team USA (maybe swap Brian for Duck King), and I know this will never happen, but a Vice/Mature/Adel team would be so hype. (Although the latter is more likely then team USA)

Yeah, I'm hoping the Orochi CYS Team ends up being free bonus characters like Shizumaru was from Samurai Shodown 7.

Not really sure what I'd think could be in a 2nd Season Pass, though.

I'd imagine they'll probably bring Kim back at some point, given all the requests for him, but I'm not really sure who he'd team with since he's had so many partners over the course of the series.

I think they'll also do Shen/Duo Lon/Oswald as a 2nd Ash Saga team since they already have Ash and Elizabeth.

I also want to see like an "Anti-Geese Team" lead by Mr. Big as he goes to get rid of Geese, which would be also include Krauser and ether Laurence Blood or Hein (since they did a thing where Luong's apparently a secret agent, they could also do a thing where Hein's actually a mole working for Big, which would explain how Team South Town got ambushed in their ending in KOF XIV).

They could also have Raiden and Hwa Jai defecting to Mr. Big's side, but I don't really see that as likely because Raiden and Hwa's story in XIII was trying to salvage their reputations after cutting ties with Geese, so I think they'd have a better chance of teaming with Kim, like in KOF XIII.

Eiji could also work, though he comes off as more a comic relief/neutral rival character to me, so I think he'd probably team up with Kasumi and Malin again like in KOF XI.

Also, I'd probably figure they'd rework and bring back some more of the XIV characters, namely the newcomer characters, because they already have a ton of work done for them, and I figure they probably don't want that going to waste and would want to reuse as much of it as possible. Not really sure which ones, though. I do have an idea of a revised Offical Invitation Team with Nadj being switched in with Mian and Sylvie, but that might depend on SNK getting approval from her original creator since she was originally made in a contest.

Finally, I think if Mature and Vice come back (which they probably will considering they were in XIII, XIV, and the UM games that recently got rollback updates), they'll ether come back with Rugal, Adelheid, a rebalenced Goenitz, Freeman, Grant, or Kain from Garou, or a clone/EX form of Iori based more on his moveset from KOF XIII, since if their bringing back the Orochi CYS Team, I can kind of seeing them do EX forms for other characters, though I think the first 3 are more likely as Mature and Vice's 3rd partner.

Also, maybe like an "Another Garou Team" with Hotaru, Kevin Rian, and Hokotomaru or something, I dunno (Probably not Marco or Kim's sons since I think they'd probably play too similary to Ryo/Robert and Kim if he's in the game).

It seems to be working with the first Garou Team, why not have another down the line? At least, that's what I figure, anyway.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on February 02, 2022, 06:19:38 pm
To be fair, even if we got the Orochi Team in their original costumes, they'd still be different characters. They play nothing like the original team.

It'd be interesting if they turn up in the same clothes as False Yashiro/Chris from KOF All Star. Although Shermie's outfit would obviously be... less conservative, haha!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on February 02, 2022, 06:34:22 pm
Its very likely these two teams were originally meant to be in the base roster, but they decided to change their plans due to everything that happened (it would probably mean another delay and skipping the current release date).

Future DLCs are anyone's guess, regardless of leaks, and considering how people are generally unhappy with the picks mentioned in this supposed leak it is very likely they'll change their plans (that is, considering this supposed leak is even real or accurate to begin with).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 02, 2022, 08:14:16 pm
No one is "generally unhappy" with the leak, only the Kim memers and the palette swap whiners.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on February 02, 2022, 08:50:58 pm
and the Maximum Impact stubborns;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on February 02, 2022, 08:52:46 pm
Being upset that they're gonna sell clones of existing characters separately, even though they're low effort and cheap and not the same value as completely different characters would be is a very valid concern, because it's a scam.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 02, 2022, 09:00:48 pm
Good thing that's not happening then
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on February 02, 2022, 09:36:33 pm
Also, after about 20 years I learn that Jenet is pronounced the same as Jenny.
According to the official King Of Fighters All Stars Live Stream (rip), the canonical way to pronounce her name is "Jinnay".  Don't quote me.

To be fair, even if we got the Orochi Team in their original costumes, they'd still be different characters. They play nothing like the original team.

It'd be interesting if they turn up in the same clothes as False Yashiro/Chris from KOF All Star. Although Shermie's outfit would obviously be... less conservative, haha!
Shyeet gimme Baseball Vanessa with freeze inflicting bat with +frames at the tip.  Bat swing spacing would put Love Heart to shame.

Quote
I'd imagine they'll probably bring Kim back at some point, given all the requests for him, but I'm not really sure who he'd team with since he's had so many partners over the course of the series
Unless they are ok with releasing him with his lifeless pants the fanbase bled to begin with, I am not holding my breath.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on February 02, 2022, 09:43:17 pm
I like the way SNK handles its DLC that is not used as an extra way to monetize but to expand the game like extra characters and outfits. Speaking of Maximum Impact I'm going to try to ask them to do a balanced remaster of Regulation A. Since SNK owns most of its characters and is not restricted to a single artist or license. (Like Capcom)


In a way, it is a way to monetize the game but it is not predatory.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on February 02, 2022, 10:07:41 pm
KOF 13 had DLC versions of existing characters, I don't see how this is any different or worse. To me, they were fine characters- each had their own niche and identity that stood out from their OG versions.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on February 02, 2022, 11:14:17 pm
The download size for the PS5 version of the game!

Quote
Police cars revolving light THE KING OF FIGHTERS XV (PS5)

Right-pointing triangle Download Size : 68.048 GB* (Without Day One Patch)

* download size in the database can be larger than the console size

Green square Pre-Load : February 15 (DE : Feb 12)
Brown square Launch : February 17 (DE: Feb 15)


Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on February 03, 2022, 04:43:58 am
KOF 13 had DLC versions of existing characters, I don't see how this is any different or worse. To me, they were fine characters- each had their own niche and identity that stood out from their OG versions.

Well, it isn't really different or worse, but it is kind of jarring to have paid DLC be alternate versions of already existing characters.
Even KOF XIII eventually bundled them in with the Steam/GOG version, for no extra charge.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on February 03, 2022, 05:06:36 am
Yeah, but they initially didn't, thats the point I am making
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on February 03, 2022, 05:18:17 am
KOF 13 had DLC versions of existing characters, I don't see how this is any different or worse. To me, they were fine characters- each had their own niche and identity that stood out from their OG versions.
"It has been done before" doesn't mean it was a good thing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on February 03, 2022, 06:15:15 am
Every single game since CYS debut has had Orochi CYS as either bonus or console only characters.

I do not see the problem, I'd rather buy them seperately than buy an entirely new edition of the game just to play as them. Alt. versions of characters being DLC has been a thing to avoid this issue altogether.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on February 03, 2022, 06:43:02 am
Dunno about comparing XIII's DLC considering it was a different scenario that having only EX characters was acceptable and understandable.  I have doubts SNK was initially planning a roadmap for at least 3 completely newly made spritework for something that will lose interest to the casual audience in several months.

Anyways, I don't really have an issue in general with EX characters as DLC and you can bet if Orochi Iori/Leona in their current XV models were to be announced, there will be so much rejoice.  Yet, I would rather have Orochi CYS be the first available (or make them preorder bonus, w/e) and then build hype for the next wave.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on February 03, 2022, 05:19:51 pm
Love the DLC selection thus far. The only one I react to, is the Orochi forms. Yes, they play different, yes, it's the Mortal Kombat ninja thing, but ... with SNK having a vast roster of characters to pick as, I would prefer it not to become Mortal Kombat in term of the roster.

I am not saying; "Orochi is stealing x chance in the roster" or anything like that, because it's way too early to dismiss more DLC fighters after these 4 teams. I am just the guy who is kinda like; "Wait ... SHIN Akuma? ... EVIL Ryu? ... DEVIL Jin? ANOTHER F- GOKU!?". My point is, if we were to have some Orochi team I would rather love for it to be some other Hakkesshu characters: "Orochi, Goenitz and Gaidel" for example. It's just personal preference. Still, LOVE the DLC selection otherwise.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on February 03, 2022, 06:04:08 pm
KOF 13 had DLC versions of existing characters, I don't see how this is any different or worse. To me, they were fine characters- each had their own niche and identity that stood out from their OG versions.
"It has been done before" doesn't mean it was a good thing.
Those characters ended up completely distinct from their counterparts. They weren't just "palette swaps." They were their own characters. What is the issue?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on February 04, 2022, 12:46:27 pm
man, those KOF15 news are great and all that, but...
...can we please have a Switch port as well? I want to be able to play KOF15 on the go
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on February 04, 2022, 03:07:23 pm
Love the DLC selection thus far. The only one I react to, is the Orochi forms. Yes, they play different, yes, it's the Mortal Kombat ninja thing, but ... with SNK having a vast roster of characters to pick as, I would prefer it not to become Mortal Kombat in term of the roster.

I am not saying; "Orochi is stealing x chance in the roster" or anything like that, because it's way too early to dismiss more DLC fighters after these 4 teams. I am just the guy who is kinda like; "Wait ... SHIN Akuma? ... EVIL Ryu? ... DEVIL Jin? ANOTHER F- GOKU!?". My point is, if we were to have some Orochi team I would rather love for it to be some other Hakkesshu characters: "Orochi, Goenitz and Gaidel" for example. It's just personal preference. Still, LOVE the DLC selection otherwise.

Well said, man. As much as I love playing as the awakened Orochi trio, I would also much prefer seeing more actual new faces on the post-launch spotlights.

Character selection isn't just about functions, ya know...? ::)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on February 06, 2022, 01:18:07 am
I don't see why they are being compared to functions.

They serve a completely different purpose in the stories they are in, than the regular versions.

They have completely different movesets and voice lines.

They have completely different personalities. They are essentially different people altogether.

There's not even a guarantee that they will have the same exact models as the regular versions as most 3D versions of variant characters in most traditional fighters like Evil Ryu and Devil Jin have completely different designs now.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DarkWolf13 on February 06, 2022, 05:25:23 am
man, those KOF15 news are great and all that, but...
...can we please have a Switch port as well? I want to be able to play KOF15 on the go

Yes, pretty much this!! The Switch can handle the engine the game runs on. Although, I still wish Rugal could come soon because we need some Genocide Cuttahs in this new fray. There's still hope. The Orochi New Face team, like lui said, may be the same characters but look but the Orochi forms are the version where they show their true colors, as pure evil, relentless, and unforgiving folks who want to gather energy using KOF to awaken Orochi. Normals may be the same but specials and supers gain an overhaul between normal and Orochi forms.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on February 07, 2022, 12:19:42 pm
man, those KOF15 news are great and all that, but...
...can we please have a Switch port as well? I want to be able to play KOF15 on the go

Yes, pretty much this!! The Switch can handle the engine the game runs on.

Yes but some downgrades in graphics.
I think the Switch port will happen a few months after the release of the game 
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on February 07, 2022, 02:32:19 pm
man, those KOF15 news are great and all that, but...
...can we please have a Switch port as well? I want to be able to play KOF15 on the go

Yes, pretty much this!! The Switch can handle the engine the game runs on.

Yes but some downgrades in graphics.
I think the Switch port will happen a few months after the release of the game 

I highly doubt that.
Because otherwise, we would have gotten a Switch port of KOF14 a long time ago.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: D.R.B on February 09, 2022, 01:28:56 am
intro?

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on February 09, 2022, 01:46:02 am
Beautiful opening until you see a .png image of the Ikari Team god dammit
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on February 09, 2022, 03:53:59 am
Video from the official SNK channel:

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 09, 2022, 06:51:55 pm
one person already got the game  :yuno:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on February 09, 2022, 07:36:33 pm
No leaks please. SNK explicitly asked not to share
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on February 09, 2022, 08:44:45 pm
No leaks please. SNK explicitly asked not to share
Yeah, no company wants leaks happening, too bad for them. We have spoiler tags for forum users who don't want to see them.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 09, 2022, 09:02:06 pm
No leaks please. SNK explicitly asked not to share
Yeah, no company wants leaks happening, too bad for them. We have spoiler tags for forum users who don't want to see them.

Spoiler tags that not everyone uses lol I've narrowly avoided plenty of DLC leaks that have gone untagged.

As much as I don't wanna see leaks either, nobody's gonna hide them.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 09, 2022, 09:03:32 pm
A combo video of a character that's already revealed is not a leak
Especially when it's the same combo as the one she does three times in her reveal video
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Roman55 on February 09, 2022, 10:37:11 pm
Not to mention that leaks are still inbound. It's practically a losing battle but I don't think posting combo vids of stuff already officially revealed is worth a spoiler tag.

Heck that special intro was leaked hours before it hit YT, which lead to a lot of people saying it only got uploaded as a response.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 09, 2022, 10:47:56 pm
Combo vids are fine, but stuff like story mode shit I would prefer to not see and am staying away from lol
Anything to avoid those kinds of spoilers on story elements and the sub-boss/final boss.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: kamui 2.0 on February 10, 2022, 10:34:19 pm
I can't find anything about kof 15, I don't care about the boss. I only wanted to watch pro players playing it
where I can find it ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on February 10, 2022, 10:45:16 pm
Nowhere. Pros aren't going to show off the game before release. The only people showing it off early are casual players.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on February 11, 2022, 12:18:37 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKt6aggUYAIxeE-?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 12, 2022, 03:09:45 pm
The final boss looks cool
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on February 12, 2022, 03:59:34 pm
It has a feature where see how much a player ragequits in rank by using fair play score.
(https://preview.redd.it/m7m1751sieh81.jpg?width=881&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=284682b4a102ae0bad740fb7086c591ba85ac11a)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on February 12, 2022, 05:02:41 pm
There's a slight chance Kim (and others) might come back!
An interview done by a Korean gaming magazine to Yasuyuki Oda (the producer of KOF 15) shed some light regarding "bringing back Team Korea (AKA Kim Team)" back into the roster.
(https://i.imgur.com/aDUV0li.png)
● Out of the 39 characters, we can't find the OG character "Kim". Is there a particular reason as to why Kim and his Korean teammates were benched this installment? Will there be a possibility of them returning later in the future?

Regarding popular characters like Kim and many others, there are lots of requests to bringing them back so we as a team are looking into the matter of such possibilities. Kim in particular has always been one of the most popular characters and we will try our best to bring him back into the game. As for the current roster, the remaining slots have already been assigned to specific characters. However, future plans will be revised.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on February 12, 2022, 06:41:50 pm
I think this is the first official KOF without Kim as part of the roster (and I mean official, since in MI games Kim appears as unlockable character, at least in 2), it would be great to see him again, a KOF without Kim feels some odd, it's like not having Terry or Ryo in some game...

I think I'm gonna make a self-present for Valentine's Day and buy the game for my PS4, totally do it :coollove:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on February 12, 2022, 07:37:18 pm
Just give Kim denim jeans and say it was because he was on vacation with his master and left his attire at home or something and save the trouble of animating his old pants.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 12, 2022, 08:09:52 pm
I'm just gonna assume it's because they don't know how to handle his team anymore, putting him with Chang and Choi again is still terrible. I'd be game for Gang-Il and Jhun, that can be a funnier dynamic between the uptight and the sleazy.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on February 12, 2022, 08:13:09 pm
Kim/Jhun/May Lee.


All the puzzle pieces are right the fuck there lol
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on February 13, 2022, 05:29:46 pm
Or just rehash the models from XIV's Chang & Choi, and call it a day.

Those pieces are way closer to them... :uhoh2:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on February 13, 2022, 08:35:08 pm
i'm digging k9999 in this game he acts more mature yet still retained some of his assholeness.

angel even called her k9999 at the end and there's a bonus ending where he removes his goggles and he still looks like k9999.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SnkLover on February 14, 2022, 04:02:22 pm
All Characters Taunts:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

All Characters Color Palettes:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on February 14, 2022, 05:34:19 pm
Launch trailer

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 14, 2022, 05:44:55 pm
Launch trailer

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrAe0Vs4utA[/youtube]

snk says dont spoiler the game but the launch trailer doesnt matter about that so whatever
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on February 14, 2022, 07:06:02 pm
The embargo is lifted already, and people already got their pre-orders anyway.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on February 15, 2022, 04:09:24 am
If bills weren't in the way I would be playing it too. :(
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on February 15, 2022, 02:38:07 pm
Some of the endings that have been put on youtube for several days, SNk don't seems to care anymore, but whatever, I just watch them because I don't care about spoiler :mlol:

I'm just gonna assume it's because they don't know how to handle his team anymore, putting him with Chang and Choi again is still terrible. I'd be game for Gang-Il and Jhun, that can be a funnier dynamic between the uptight and the sleazy.
Have Chang and Choi teamed up with Chin Gentsai and you got the Cute Team  ;D I don't mind seeing them together since I main them mostly nowadays  :eaugh:

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on February 15, 2022, 05:43:41 pm
I played KOF XV thanks to Early Access Pre-Order Bonus, unlocking lots of Team Story Mode endings.

This game reminds me a lot of KOF 98 in the sense that the characters' expansive movelists make them feel very strong, and their movelists are super accessible with some simplified commands. This is going to be one of the best entries in the series, it's a good time to be a KOF Fan.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: WF4123 on February 17, 2022, 01:59:44 pm
Today is the release date of that game. It's now or never, but this fight will continue on.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on February 17, 2022, 02:57:50 pm
no rugal anywhere? but the game is fun
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SnkLover on February 17, 2022, 08:57:37 pm
Complete KOF XV OST playlist:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQYSyFceyRn2DUiEmm_aV55CF8AMJQIPQ

All Endings Playlist:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQYSyFceyRn277ILR8rlW3nAHHbAPcap2

Cutscenes:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Story Mode Character Intros:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: walt on February 17, 2022, 10:38:48 pm
no rugal anywhere? but the game is fun

I'm starting to believe the Leak was wrong.

Otoma Raga != Omega Rugal
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 18, 2022, 12:59:10 am
That's not what the leak said.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on February 18, 2022, 11:07:55 am
my favorite ending goes with fatal fury team and team gaw  ;D

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on February 18, 2022, 05:36:34 pm
Uh ? Yuki is meant as a sacrifice for Orochi, I don't remember Orochi loving her in Zillion (but it's been a very long time) and Chris' line here isn't about love.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on February 18, 2022, 08:02:17 pm
So pissed... I ordered the Day One PS4 version for release day... they sent me the XBox Series X version! Having to wait until tomorrow for my replacement and avoiding YouTube like the plague for spoilers (Thank you for using the spoilers tags here!). Annoyingly, as soon as it's delivered tomorrow I'm away for a week. FML. LOL
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on February 19, 2022, 12:05:00 am
This game reminds me a lot of KOF 98 in the sense that the characters' expansive movelists make them feel very strong,
Third (or fourth if you count 12) game in a row without kohou shippuu ken or mouko raijin setsu...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DarkWolf13 on February 20, 2022, 02:36:06 pm
First KOF game in the series where it features a female final boss.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on February 20, 2022, 04:51:13 pm
First KOF game in the series where it features a female final boss.
They sure took their time, but its progress. Megaman 11 still has no female robot masters, except for that one in the early games.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on February 27, 2022, 12:10:00 pm
Design wise she looks impressive here. When I saw the leaks, I initially believed it to be Dolores's 'true' form, given the aesthetics are similar between those two. ReVerse was a fun design.  I am looking forward to seeing how the DLC pads out. Finally, I have enjoyed the KOF so far, storywise. Honestly, it feels like it might end up as a third best entry in the series overall.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on February 27, 2022, 08:49:47 pm
Well... ordered a replacement for the wrong version sent out to be, only to be sent the SAME wrong version again.

I wanted a physical copy, but I'm almost tempted to spend the extra just to download it and play it sometime tonight! AAARGH!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on February 28, 2022, 10:10:25 pm
it's good , i'm gonna say it's second best of all the kof i'd have played.

though i'm still not used to clark and the other grapplers having super armor on their grabs 
i'm used to hitting low on wake up against grapplers now youre forced to jump you can't even dp against it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on March 18, 2022, 11:58:44 am
Garou team released.

Rock and Gato seem pretty strong.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: WF4123 on March 18, 2022, 01:20:43 pm
Really I wish to put Rock in A rank, probably it was good way to play.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 18, 2022, 09:50:04 pm
I havent played with Rock since Cv2 long time ago already but this Rock´s combos are really clean and fun.  good character so far.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 19, 2022, 11:00:00 am
Interesting that Rock gets two Climax versions. Haven't really played around with him much, but I'm wondering what the trade off is for using the original Deadly Rave over the Install version?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on March 19, 2022, 11:47:03 am
From what I could gather, the non install version does more damage.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on March 19, 2022, 08:17:13 pm
I guess the leak was already confirmed at this point but both Orochi Shermie and Orochi Chris were founded in the game after the update.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I guess this means team samurai shodown is the last dlc.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 19, 2022, 08:57:14 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on March 21, 2022, 09:15:04 am
Omega Rugal coming as Free DLC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 21, 2022, 09:20:34 am
Dayum.
Wasn't expecting Rugal, especially OMEGA Rugal to join KOF XV.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on March 21, 2022, 11:09:30 am
Yay, best confirmation ever in fighting games history.
I knew SNK could make the fans happy with this.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PotS on March 21, 2022, 11:26:49 am
My favourite KOF character. How long had he been gone?

The Climax looks almost silly, but the optic blast is surprisingly cool.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on March 21, 2022, 11:42:20 am
My favourite KOF character. How long had he been gone?

He's been gone after KOF 2002 Unlimited Match in 2009, so yeah. It's about damn time to bring him back and been playable rather than unplayable. Also, welcome back Mr. POTS. Glad to have you back.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 21, 2022, 12:29:11 pm
I love the fact that SNK is willing to provide free DLC characters even in 2022 when most other companies will distribute their most insignificant/minuscule shit for tens of dollars.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on March 21, 2022, 01:57:49 pm
So he has the Reppuuken but not Kaiser Wave nor Gravity Smash (he puts that in his climax while going full dictator), he has the warp but not the sick 02 kick combo (huge disappointment for me), and he has his full mind and isn't semi-crazy.
So... Why is it Omega and not just regular Rugal ?
Super cool that he's free, though. And lol @ the boss challenge, nice.

Edit
Actually playable Rugal has normal Rugal theme, and boss challenge Rugal has Omega Rugal theme, so maybe they just decided to blur things up.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 21, 2022, 02:04:43 pm
SNK rep: "So we gonna work on Rugal's movelist but all these MUGEN works over the past decade has given him newer creative moves.  What is the one thing they haven't done that we can add?"

Oda: "OPTIC BLAST"
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: WF4123 on March 21, 2022, 02:25:26 pm
Scheisse! Rugal is back, and he does the Bessu Beamu like Neco-Arc!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Lichtbringer on March 21, 2022, 03:05:22 pm
Omega Rugal coming as Free DLC.

This makes me so Happy right now. Ö_Ö
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: PotS on March 21, 2022, 03:17:51 pm
I love the fact that SNK is willing to provide free DLC characters even in 2022 when most other companies will distribute their most insignificant/minuscule shit for tens of dollars.
It's funny because I'm sure many people would've paid for this one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 21, 2022, 03:51:42 pm
I love the fact that SNK is willing to provide free DLC characters even in 2022 when most other companies will distribute their most insignificant/minuscule shit for tens of dollars.
It's funny because I'm sure many people would've paid for this one.

I know right? That's the best part.

Rugal is so beloved by the community that SNK would've made thousands of dollars by simply making him up for purchase, but no. They kept their integrity while there's Bandai Namco over there who freakin' sold frame data and locked labbing DLC characters behind a paywall.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on March 21, 2022, 06:33:36 pm
Wonder if there's any reward for beating the Boss challenge? Maybe that outfit for Rugal? That'd be neat, even if I feel all I'll hear is "GENOCIDE... CUTT-AHH!" for ages! XD
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: xiondash on March 21, 2022, 06:43:34 pm
Wonder if there's any reward for beating the Boss challenge? Maybe that outfit for Rugal? That'd be neat, even if I feel all I'll hear is "GENOCIDE... CUTT-AHH!" for ages! XD

The answer is yes, Boss challenge rewards are new stage, music and extra costume
(https://i.imgur.com/t9fEgYq.jpg)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DarkWolf13 on March 21, 2022, 08:22:50 pm
At long fucking last!!!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: The Shakunetsu on March 23, 2022, 07:56:18 am
Kaiser Wave is gone

Looks like Mr Big and Krauser is coming soon.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on March 23, 2022, 11:01:14 am
its his climax. but i do love the idea of krauser as one of the boss challenge.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on March 23, 2022, 03:44:33 pm
Pretty HAPPY To see Rugal. Mexico has gotten EVO banned him from using it there.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on April 14, 2022, 02:23:45 pm
Hey so how is Rugal so far gameplay wise?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on April 14, 2022, 02:47:29 pm


Quote
Defeating Ω Rugal on the first try - KOF XV
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 14, 2022, 05:27:50 pm
That new unbeatable super Omega Rugal has is so busted it's hilarious. With the eye blast projectile special, it feels like they decided to make a troll boss.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on April 15, 2022, 12:07:21 am
High-level Ω Rugal gameplay.


ET Vs. Xiao Luo


CYH Vs. Disintegration
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: CureichiEvil2610 on May 12, 2022, 12:51:24 am
Hello there! What do you guys think about including a character from the Maximum Impact games?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 12, 2022, 02:23:50 am
It would certainly shatter most people's expectations.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: CureichiEvil2610 on May 12, 2022, 02:42:30 am
It would certainly shatter most people's expectations.

Yeah. People barely remember characters like Alba Meira or his brother, Soiree Meira
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Croix12 on May 12, 2022, 03:49:25 am
I miss some of those guys... Would be great IMO but is not happening
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GreenZed on May 12, 2022, 04:59:01 am
I want Team Hizoku with Lin, Duo Lon and Xiao Lon playable all in the same game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 12, 2022, 09:09:03 am
The only memorable characters from MI are Luise, Xiao, Duke and the Beart sisters imo.
But MI is non-canon anyway so the chances are highly unlikely.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on May 12, 2022, 02:40:32 pm
...does SNK even own the rights to the MI characters anyway?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 12, 2022, 05:39:33 pm
Who else would?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on May 12, 2022, 10:26:42 pm
Alba and Soiree... Where are you, when we need you all?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 12, 2022, 11:36:32 pm
Hello there! What do you guys think about including a character from the Maximum Impact games?

I stand steady for the idea of giving new breath to the MI cast for quite some time, at this point... Unfortunately, both the stablished roster of KOF XV + rumours regarding the next DLC teams strongly indicates that SNK still wanna keep them buried in the past. :mcry:

Like, for real... they're not even in KoF All Star, the game that manages to put freaking genderswaps and JOHN CENA as characters in there.


But MI is non-canon anyway [...]

and so is grown up Rock Howard. :uhoh:

Putting it shortly - they could effortlessly just make a *new* backstory for those characters that fit into KOF current """""canon""""", if they really gave a shit about it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2022, 12:16:53 am
they could effortlessly just make a *new* backstory for those characters that fit into KOF current """""canon""""", if they really gave a shit about it.

Because they lack agency.

Just like how 60+% of the KOF 14 characters like Sylvie were cut from 15, characters that lack presence in the story just don't seem important. Shun'ei isn't really popular, but the reason why he keeps being included in the franchise is because he's an integral part of the overall arc.

If MI characters were included with a retconned backstory, that'd be simply recycling character designs and would be deemed lazy on SNK's part.
So I doubt they'd want to open up another can of worms just to bring back familiar faces. As non-canon DLC? Maybe.

FYI: That's the same reason why grown up Rock is never canon or part of the main storyline and is always DLC.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GreenZed on May 13, 2022, 02:27:18 am
they could effortlessly just make a *new* backstory for those characters that fit into KOF current """""canon""""", if they really gave a shit about it.

Because they lack agency.

Just like how 60+% of the KOF 14 characters like Sylvie were cut from 15, characters that lack presence in the story just don't seem important. Shun'ei isn't really popular, but the reason why he keeps being included in the franchise is because he's an integral part of the overall arc.

If MI characters were included with a retconned backstory, that'd be simply recycling character designs and would be deemed lazy on SNK's part.
So I doubt they'd want to open up another can of worms just to bring back familiar faces. As non-canon DLC? Maybe.

FYI: That's the same reason why grown up Rock is never canon or part of the main storyline and is always DLC.

I don't like arguing, but couldn't get over this statement. Agency and importance to the story, huh? Sure, characters like Terry, Ryo and K' are so important to the arc, because they are, uh... punch good? What? By your logic, KOFXV should only have Team Hero, Team Rival and, to a lesser extent, Team Ash. This is a tournament, not an overarching narrative focused on some bigger events, like in Netherrealm games (which is something, I have zero doubts, you would prefer in KOF over it's traditional way to tell it's story).

And that "recycling designs" argument. What?? This game is hellbent on maximum nostalgia pandering, to the point of throwing way it's tagline, making it sound hypocritical. And not only that, but, as a series, notorious for not aging anyone, it now hits it's characters with flanderization, devolving their personalities and the actual agency into something one dimensional. Look at Ryo spewing "karate karate karate" trite, like that fucking "muscle spirit" shit from SFV. And Ryo could move on! And he did! He is supposed to be Mr.Karate II already like in Buriki One and NGBC, since Takuma retired! But no, that would actually shatter someone's expectaions, so we can't have that.

And you know what's actually lazy? Not reusing desings, but reusing other assets, especially animation, and then selling it in a separate DLC. And while we are on topic of "recycling desings", have you ever heard of "fanservice"? I would prefer, if characters would grow over the series, but classic outfits can always be a DLC, if nothing else. And if they really can't bring characters from MI in their original attires, you can just redesign them. KoF is no stranger to this practice.

That being said, Soiree brothers, in my opinion, are a no go for KOFXV. Their story ended on a huge cliffhanger, and just plopping them in, handwaving past events, would be weird, to say the least. Duke is also not a very good candidate, since he is pretty much a russian (supposedly) man, who punches really hard, and KOFXV already has one. Can't imagine where would Luise storyline go without Soiree bros, either. But I wouldn't rule out other MI newcomers, who are worthy of note.

But for real, we're not getting them. That sudden Falcoon departure from SNK as MI3 was planned for 7th gen consoles, must've been result of something ugly happening behind the doors. It took how long SNK to get over Eolith? We would have to double that, and that would still be pretty generous.

/rant over
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2022, 04:12:37 am
Characters like Terry, Ryo and K' are essential to the game, especially the latter as he was literally the main character from a previous arc. And my point still stands in regards to the agency part. We've lost characters like Kim, Daimon, Mature, Vice, Kensou, Chin and many others who were considered to be "staples" of the franchise in XV and the main reason why is because they simply did not make the cut due to lack of relevancy. The ones who made it like Ryo and Kula were just purely based on popularity (I'm not saying the cut characters aren't popular, but they're not as popular as some others).

Krohnen was aesthetically overhauled, but was still accepted by the community as his story was consistent with his old persona (K9999). MI characters will be the very opposite as much of their stories would have to be retconned (unless Jivatma returned, lol) and that'd be just silly.

On the topic of reusing animations, games like Tekken & Soul Calibur do the same thing and yet nobody says anything about them. Also, what's really wrong about bringing back old characters for DLC? It's not like the base game is free or smth. You're just paying for extra content.

(TL;DR)
I'm not arguing. I'm just voicing my honest opinion. :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on May 13, 2022, 04:13:54 am
TEAM SOUTH TOWN so extra custom are free.!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 13, 2022, 04:30:48 am
Complaining about reusing old animations for DLC is unreasonable IMO.
No, its fucking not, because they're literally selling stuff that is already done and should be in the base game, but we end up paying an extra price for it. Unless the character is extremely different, selling characters that simply reuse stuff is a scam. You mention Soul Calibur, but they at least changed movesets of characters from one game to another, specially in SC6, since most characters were returning from SC4 and needed updates, not to mention they didn't get away with selling Tira day 1 despite her being already done.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2022, 04:41:48 am
Complaining about reusing old animations for DLC is unreasonable IMO.
they're literally selling stuff that is already done and should be in the base game

That's quite a bold statement you're making.

Are you telling me that a game like KOF XV which has 39 characters in its base roster intended to have more but just decided to sell them as DLC to make a quick buck? As a reminder, KOF'98 had 38 characters in total and KOF'02 had 39 also.

Your logic will only make sense if the game literally held back content in order to sell more DLC, which is not the case.

I get that you have a distaste for DLCs in general, but like I said before, they're given a bad rep simply because they have a price tag on them. But in reality, it's like paying for an extra piece of bacon in your hamburger. The food itself is already prepared, but you're just paying for smth extra.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GreenZed on May 13, 2022, 06:36:59 am
Characters like Terry, Ryo and K' are essential to the game, especially the latter as he was literally the main character from a previous arc. And my point still stands in regards to the agency part. We've lost characters like Kim, Daimon, Mature, Vice, Kensou, Chin and many others who were considered to be "staples" of the franchise in XV and the main reason why is because they simply did not make the cut due to lack of relevancy. The ones who made it like Ryo and Kula were just purely based on popularity (I'm not saying the cut characters aren't popular, but they're not as popular as some others).

You're saying, that those characters were cut due to lack of agency and in the next sentence you say about how others were included "purely based on popularity". You know the reasons, why SNK include the characters they do, and yet you cling on to this "agency" thing. Saving development time, money and other resources sounds more plausible to me as the main reason of them being cut.

Also, is Antonov also essential? He is another character, that has barely anything to do in XV. "No agency", like you say, why bother bringing him back? That goes for his whole team, actually.

As for Kim being cut:

Quote
The other probable main reason of the character's non-inclusion in the initial roster is due to the recent death of the real Kim Kaphwan, founder of Viccom, a Korean company that for many years licensed SNK's games, and that inspired the fictional character.

From SNK Wiki. Also sounds a lot more plausible, then "agency".

Krohnen was aesthetically overhauled, but was still accepted by the community as his story was consistent with his old persona (K9999). MI characters will be the very opposite as much of their stories would have to be retconned (unless Jivatma returned, lol) and that'd be just silly.

I have no idea, what makes you think so (the retcon part, not the silly part).

Characters which require story retcons are not favored over characters that only need visual updates.

Mature and Vice in KOFXII-XIII say hi.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2022, 07:33:07 am
You're saying, that those characters were cut due to lack of agency and in the next sentence you say about how others were included "purely based on popularity". You know the reasons, why SNK include the characters they do, and yet you cling on to this "agency" thing. Saving development time, money and other resources sounds more plausible to me as the main reason of them being cut.
That's why I said:
We've lost characters like [...] who were considered to be "staples" of the franchise in XV and the main reason why is because they simply did not make the cut due to lack of relevancy.
Meaning, when a character is not super popular to the point their relevance to the story could be ignored for the sake of being included, they have a higher chance of being cut from the roster. And I doubt any MI characters are as popular as Kim, Kensou, Mature & Vice and etc cuz if they're not getting in, MI characters sure aren't.

As for Antonov, yes he kind of is.
He hosted the previous KOF tournament back in XIV (was the sub-boss even). He has newer assets, overall likeable personality and gameplay so he was bound to return. He's like Adelheid of the newer arc.

In regards to Kim being cut, that is pure speculation and heresay that holds no value from the developers' perspective whatsoever.
The devs have stated that Kim might be able to return in Year 2 so I don't think his absence was solely to respect the death of the real Kim Kaphwan. If it was, Kim would never make it into the game even as DLC.

And on the topic of KOF MI, it's because the game literally takes place after Geese's death. It happens to be the same game where Rock is a full grown adult and Terry is a bit older too. Putting characters from that time period into the same game where Geese is alive is just weird knowing that KOF XV takes place before MI. Unless the characters are solely for gameplay-only, then:
As non-canon DLC? Maybe.

Also, Mature and Vice's stories were not retconned. They weren't officially "dead" back in KOF'96 nor have they officially "revived" in XIII. They lurk in the shadows and make visages of themselves (this has been their thing for decades, haunting Iori in his dreams in KOF'97). They're still not humans but ghosts that can manifest into physical forms (backed by Duo Lon's intro in XIII).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Deadface on May 13, 2022, 08:04:36 am
Complaining about reusing old animations for DLC is unreasonable IMO.
Unless the character is extremely different, selling characters that simply reuse stuff is a scam.
There's a lot more to characters than reused and/or repurposed animations. Model reworks, completely new voice work, gameplay balancing, general adjustments and changes to make them stand out from their previous incarnations, etc. And I know people will complain about reused animations for DLC being a scam, but those complaints usually don't mean much as said people ignore the amount of work that goes in literally everything else, including all new VFX work. It just shows that one can be quite shortsighted.

Am I a bit bothered that my three faves from XIV were rendered DLC? At first, kinda. Now? Not really, no.
As someone who actually mained all three of these dudes, the changes on display are rather substantial and quite sick. Geese getting Nichirinzan again is especially appreciated. The only reason it even bothered me at all was because I would've loved to see Hein again since he was my absolute favorite newcomer from a gameplay perspective.

But yeah, nah. The topic of "should be in the base game" isn't so cut and dry either as the idea of those characters coming back could've been something that came later down the directorial line. That is usually the case for most fighting game DLC whether you like it or not.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 13, 2022, 08:34:13 am
The devs have stated that Kim might be able to return in Year 2 so I don't think his absence was solely to respect the death of the real Kim Kaphwan. If it was, Kim would never make it into the game even as DLC.
That's not right. The respect is just in delaying his appearance, it doesn't mean they have to retire the entire character. It happens regularly. Although I would think that it's an opportunity to move on to the kids already.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2022, 08:54:30 am
The devs have stated that Kim might be able to return in Year 2 so I don't think his absence was solely to respect the death of the real Kim Kaphwan. If it was, Kim would never make it into the game even as DLC.
That's not right. The respect is just in delaying his appearance, it doesn't mean they have to retire the entire character. It happens regularly. Although I would think that it's an opportunity to move on to the kids already.

I wasn't really advocating on retiring Kim as a whole, but rather him staying out of 15 and returning in the next game. It would also be hypocritical to respect someone's death by not including a character for a year and bringing them back soon after as DLC.
Maybe it's just me, but that seems a little sketchy.

In fact, I think if SNK wanted to commemorate Mr. Kim's death with the utmost respect, I think they would've included Kim in honor of his literal motif's passing. It makes no sense for not including him.

All in all, this theory lacks consistency and solid evidence to even reach a conclusion.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 13, 2022, 11:17:14 am
It's really not unheard of in Japan to delay something after an incident or death because it'd be bad press. I won't say anything about DLC, I'm just saying that a delay is common enough.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2022, 12:49:01 pm
It's really not unheard of in Japan to delay something after an incident or death because it'd be bad press. I won't say anything about DLC, I'm just saying that a delay is common enough.

But at the same time, delaying a character's inclusion just because a person the character's loosely based on passed away makes little sense either.

On top of that, I doubt a Japanese company like SNK would do anything like that for a Korean person... like delaying an entire character for that person's sake and as a Korean myself, I find that super-duper-ultra-rare or downright impossible.
Nothing against the Japanese per se, but it's just not all that common to honor a death of a foreigner from respective nations. We're not that close.

My guess is that Kim's exclusion has nothing to do with Mr. Kaphwan's untimely death. Kim's just out cuz the devs decided to leave him out.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 13, 2022, 05:28:51 pm
Yeah my guess was always that after they reshuffled his team in XIV, they didn't know what to do with him and didn't have the time to either finish Gang Il plus a third member, or put him back with Chang and Choi. I imagine year 2 can have Kim, Gang-Il, and maybe Jhun. I'm also hoping the prisoner team is finally kept out of the game.

As for the respect thing, it depends if the guy was a friend of the team / if they had an actual relationship. Never heard of him but the Wiki text suggests they did. Imagine Nintendo paying homage to the guy who let them stay in his warehouse for an extra period through some hard times. It happens.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on May 13, 2022, 08:34:57 pm
Who else would?
Falcoon, obviously
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 13, 2022, 08:45:37 pm
they're literally selling stuff that is already done and should be in the base game

That's quite a bold statement you're making.

Are you telling me that a game like KOF XV which has 39 characters in its base roster intended to have more but just decided to sell them as DLC to make a quick buck? [...]



For a game like KOF XV? That's not so much of a crazy thought, at least.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2022, 09:33:39 pm
No... It really isn't.

Saying SNK intended to create background stories, story mode cutscenes, endings, credits for all the DLC characters planned for release is just pure nonsense.
Billy, Geese were in the base roster back in XIV. They had their canonical shine (except for Yamazaki) in the previous game.

I repeat, the ONLY reason why they're here in XV is purely for gameplay reason and that people want them back. Nothing more, nothing less.
They literally have nothing to do with KOF XV and never intended to neither.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on May 13, 2022, 09:37:22 pm
I stand steady for the idea of giving new breath to the MI cast for quite some time, at this point... Unfortunately, both the stablished roster of KOF XV + rumours regarding the next DLC teams strongly indicates that SNK still wanna keep them buried in the past. :mcry:

Like, for real... they're not even in KoF All Star, the game that manages to put freaking genderswaps and JOHN CENA as characters in there.

More like, they have no interest in bringing them to the main timeline. They have no issue using the MI characters in other things.

And KOFAS isn't exactly a good indicator fornthis seeing as they're still missing several characters still.

FYI: That's the same reason why grown up Rock is never canon or part of the main storyline and is always DLC.

That used to be the case but signs are beginning to point otherwise. XV DLC looks to be canon especially since they're going out of their way to write stories for it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2022, 09:54:08 pm
XV DLC looks to be canon especially since they're going out of their way to write stories for it.

Ugh, then that's TERRIBLE writing on SNK's part.

Terry's official bio in Garou MOW states that he's 35 while Rock is 17. That's 18 years difference. Are you telling me that Terry, still being 24 in KOF has only 7 years of age difference with Rock (who's physical age must be at least 17) in the canon storyline???

No... that can't be right.

I think his presence is still non-canon as Terry was given his MOW outfit (which depicts him in his 30's) to fit with Rock's inclusion meaning it's a what-if scenario.
SNK isn't that stupid.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 13, 2022, 10:04:53 pm
Folks here talking about plot & time coherence in KOF... lol

I would like to know, what are you guys opinions about a Samurai Shodown trio potentially appearing as DLC?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Diek Stiekem on May 13, 2022, 10:05:34 pm
Keep in my that Fatal Fury and KOF both run in a different canon (time)line
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GreenZed on May 13, 2022, 10:06:06 pm
And on the topic of KOF MI, it's because the game literally takes place after Geese's death. It happens to be the same game where Rock is a full grown adult and Terry is a bit older too. Putting characters from that time period into the same game where Geese is alive is just weird knowing that KOF XV takes place before MI. Unless the characters are solely for gameplay-only, then:
As non-canon DLC? Maybe.

Don't want to drag this further, since we've moved past the "agency" thing, but I have an addendum regarding Geese. If my memories serve me right, MI newcomers had nothing to do with Geese and he was never a focus in their storylines. (I guess, Alba being in charge of his gang group can be attributed to Geese's demise, but still). I don't think there's a need to retcon MI newcomers plot and motivations here in regards to the crime boss, a handwave at worst. If anything, that whole "Aliens" plotpoint was more important to MI and would be harder to ignore

More like, they have no interest in bringing them to the main timeline. They have no issue using the MI characters in other things.

Care to elaborate? I haven't seen MI newcomers anywhere since 00's.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2022, 10:17:29 pm
I would like to know, what are you guys opinions about a Samurai Shodown trio potentially appearing as DLC?
As with any other DLC characters that don't impact the main storyline due to chronological inconsistencies and lack of agency, it'll be fine.
If my memories serve me right, MI newcomers had nothing to do with Geese and he was never a focus in their storylines. (I guess, Alba being in charge of his gang group can be attributed to Geese's demise, but still). I don't think there's a need to retcon MI newcomers plot and motivations here in regards to the crime boss, a handwave at worst.
You're right, they don't. But Geese's death is still a pivotal point in KOF & Fatal Fury's timelines (which happen to be the same universe) so anything that happens in the future should not make any canonical return into the past unless there's a time machine, in which there is none except for our good pal Verse.

Just to remind you, Alba Meira is 22 years old when KOF MI happens which is set over a decade after KOF. So that means they have to declare that it's a completely different Alba that has nothing to do with KOF MI's iteration or retcon him so hard that it's going to end up like KOF XV's Rock Howard's inclusion where logic is thrown out the window even on SNK's standards.

Whichever the case may be, both don't seem to be feasible options SNK is willing to take. Mind you, it took them over two decades to reintroduce K9999 to KOF, but he's hella popular. Alba (or most of the MI cast) isn't really a fan favorite if you get the drift.
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2022/jan/10/kof15-dlc-most-wanted/
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GreenZed on May 13, 2022, 10:31:28 pm
Just to remind you, Alba Meira is 22 years old when KOF MI happens which is set over a decade after KOF. So that means they have to declare that it's a completely different Alba that has nothing to do with KOF MI's iteration or retcon him so hard that it's going to end up like KOF XV's Rock Howard's inclusion where logic is thrown out the window even on SNK's standards.

This is King of Fighters we're talking about, series, where no one ever ages. Look at Athena in MI.

Whichever the case may be, both don't seem to be feasible options SNK is willing to take. Mind you, it took them over two decades to reintroduce K9999 to KOF, but he's hella popular. Alba (or most of the MI cast) isn't really a fan favorite if you get the drift.
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2022/jan/10/kof15-dlc-most-wanted/

Yes. Like I've said:

But for real, we're not getting them. That sudden Falcoon departure from SNK as MI3 was planned for 7th gen consoles, must've been result of something ugly happening behind the doors. It took how long SNK to get over Eolith? We would have to double that, and that would still be pretty generous.

...and yet with this whole wibbly wobbly timely wimely things going on in KoF story, reaching into the darkest space, the door has never been more open for characters from MI series. Hell, even newcomers from KoF EX could work!

But, the only way SNK shattered my expectations so far, with their main course being to max out nostalgia factor, is by not shattering my expectations. I'm not talking about just the MI cast, but regarding overall roster picks.

EDIT: I also want to correct myself on the "lazy asset reuse", to not sound entitled. It's fine, but the whole thing just goes against the aforementioned tagline the game is so heavily presented with.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2022, 10:39:47 pm
I mean, they could literally revamp unused MI assets (i.e. character designs) and make new characters as homages to the MI characters. I guess that could work.
It's SNK we're talking about where they brought the infamous K9999 back into the franchise, so who knows? Only time will tell.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 13, 2022, 11:20:41 pm
I'll never understand why bringing those two girls from Nakoruru's team in KoF XIV is considered fine, despite nobody giving a shit about them or their games, but people still see the idea of bringing characters from KoF MI or KoF EX as too absurd to happen, doesn't make any sense. I hate to see those characters being wasted, if it were for me, I'd bring characters from those games and even from that dating sim that SNK made, that shit is KoF too, isn't it?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 13, 2022, 11:57:08 pm
You mean Mui Mui and Love Heart? Well, that's because they were never meant to be taken seriously. Nakoruru was probably there for the new SamSho game (which was being worked on right after KOF XIV) and the other two were simply there to show off SNK's IP licenses. It's like the Joker being in MK 11. Why? cuz he can and NRS happens to own the rights too. Nobody takes him seriously though.

KOF MI and EX are a little different as they are literal spinoffs of the main KOF series. People want the characters to feel authentic as possible without changing their core values when they get reintroduced. Look at Sindel. Yeah, she's back but she was retconned to bits in MK 11 Aftermath and people hate it regardless of her making it in.

It's not whether or not the characters are physically there. If those characters are to be taken seriously (as they should, since MI and EX all have solid plots), they need to switch over nicely without ruining their characterization in the process.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on May 14, 2022, 12:01:08 am
XV DLC looks to be canon especially since they're going out of their way to write stories for it.

Ugh, then that's TERRIBLE writing on SNK's part.

Terry's official bio in Garou MOW states that he's 35 while Rock is 17. That's 18 years difference. Are you telling me that Terry, still being 24 in KOF has only 7 years of age difference with Rock (who's physical age must be at least 17) in the canon storyline???

No... that can't be right.

I think his presence is still non-canon as Terry was given his MOW outfit (which depicts him in his 30's) to fit with Rock's inclusion meaning it's a what-if scenario.
SNK isn't that stupid.

KOF timeline works differently. It was originally meant to happen annually, but characters age barely changed.

Care to elaborate? I haven't seen MI newcomers anywhere since 00's.

Card Fighters Clash DS and Days of Memories had MI characters. There are MI cards for KOF x Fatal Fury. Yes, that's a thing. (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/KOF_x_Garou_Densetsu)
And shortly after 14's release, SNK worked with a cafe franchise in Japan to have KOF themed cafes for some time (https://www.kakuchopurei.com/2018/05/snk-launches-the-king-of-fighters-cafe-18-in-japan/amp/) and Alba was one of the characters featured.

They have no problem using MI characters, they just choose not to use them for mainline. With that said, Rock was on the same situation until they decided to ditch that and bring him over for 14 and 15 even if he was DLC. Now KOF EX characters on the other hand...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 14, 2022, 12:15:49 am
I suppose MI characters showing up is a matter of time, then, I guess. Sucks for EX characters, someone like Miu could become much more popular if she made it to a main game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on May 16, 2022, 11:47:15 pm
It is all about popularity unlike Capcom SNK owns most of its characters. It is all about fan demand. They could add Billy's sister Lilly who was originally from fatal fury.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 17, 2022, 01:26:21 am
They could add Billy's sister Lilly who was originally from fatal fury.

Ironically, she was in MI.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on May 18, 2022, 12:55:28 am
They could add Billy's sister Lilly who was originally from fatal fury.

Ironically, she was in MI.

That too She was Joe's Love interest!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 19, 2022, 06:51:52 am
According to SteamDB, the next DLC team is AWAKENED OROCHI team AKA Orochi team.
People are worried that they'll have to pay full price for simple reskins/recolors of existing characters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on May 19, 2022, 09:49:13 am
People are fucking stupid.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 19, 2022, 07:42:18 pm
Right now for me, it's actually not bad at all seeing the Awakened Orochi Team finally getting the proper treatment as playable characters again.

It's just that this means it will take soooo muuuuuch more time until we see more actual new faces being revealed to the public... :[
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on May 19, 2022, 07:45:02 pm
The DLC picks are so underwhelming that they killed my interest for the game, as someone that double dipped Samurai Shodown
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 19, 2022, 08:05:28 pm
God, how I wish this Team SamSho rumor actually turns out to be false, at least for now. As much as the last game and the series as a whole is cool, there are just so many SNK franchises left, in my opinion, that should've been already integrated at this point into KOF, before we consider the teams who need some time-traveling/descendant excuses merely just to fit into KOF's logic... ¬¬


...That is, unless they go the "Goddess Athena to Athena Asamiya" route, and make a team with pretty much new characters, design & moveset wise, and just make them carry the name/legacy of their respective ancestors or something. That would be hella cool - almost too good to become true again, actually.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 19, 2022, 10:00:34 pm
I mean, I think it's fine.
Sure, the models are being reused, but the animations will be different and with things costing so high nowadays, it'll be foolish to compare smth like KOF'97 with KOF XV in regards to budget issues.

On the topic of SamSho, SNK always intended to put SamSho characters (Nakoruru at least) in KOF since the very first game. So I think it's pretty normal to see them finally transition into KOF. But yeah, I would also like to see characters from Metal Slug, Last Blade and more SNK titles other than Fatal Fury, AoF and SamSho for a change.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on May 20, 2022, 12:22:22 am
I don't think it's fine compared with the modern SNK titles:  KoF XIV had all new characters for DLC, SNK Heroines had 3/4 new characters for DLC (the returning one was still dramatically changed), Samurai Shodown had all new characters for DLC.

XV has 10/12 characters adapted from already released titles that adding up make the price of a full game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on May 20, 2022, 12:55:52 am
I guess 1 or two characters from guilty gear will drop
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 20, 2022, 02:54:12 am
I don't think it's fine compared with the modern SNK titles:  KoF XIV had all new characters for DLC, SNK Heroines had 3/4 new characters for DLC (the returning one was still dramatically changed), Samurai Shodown had all new characters for DLC.

XV has 10/12 characters adapted from already released titles that adding up make the price of a full game.

You've got a point, but KOF XIV was absolutely terrible looking compared to XV. They even said that they were going for quantity over quality for XIV.

XIII also reused a lot of assets from XII (Vice, Clark, Hwa Jai, Saiki and Mr. Karate were all head swaps) but people didn't seem to mind as the game itself was solid.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 20, 2022, 07:04:12 am
XIII also reused a lot of assets from XII (Vice, Clark, Hwa Jai, Saiki and Mr. Karate were all head swaps) but people didn't seem to mind as the game itself was solid.

But that's because XIII was always meant to be, almost literally, the relplacement and finished version of XII. SNK even went as far as removing XII from online stores after the release of XIII.

XII isn't a reliable reference point for anything nowadays, really; A better argument would be the 3 DLCs from KoFXIII, which were all alternate versions of characters from the base roster.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 20, 2022, 10:32:10 am
XIII also reused a lot of assets from XII (Vice, Clark, Hwa Jai, Saiki and Mr. Karate were all head swaps) but people didn't seem to mind as the game itself was solid.
But that's because XIII was always meant to be, almost literally, the relplacement and finished version of XII. SNK even went as far as removing XII from online stores after the release of XIII.

XII was an experimental take on the series heading for a new direction at the time (converting to HD sprites). XIV was the same but was heading towards the 3D genre.

XIII and XV both use assets from previous experimental games so I don't see why people are up and arms about the Orochi team being DLC. Heck, KOF'02UM was tagged at full price when they only replaced a single character: K9999 with Nameless and people went ape shit over him for being cool despite being a literal head swap.

But all of a sudden in 2022, people are getting mad about XV for "reusing old assets and making them pay money for it" when they've been doing it for over a decade now.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Little Fox: Tres Truenos on May 20, 2022, 10:58:18 am
God, how I wish this Team SamSho rumor actually turns out to be false, at least for now. As much as the last game and the series as a whole is cool, there are just so many SNK franchises left, in my opinion, that should've been already integrated at this point into KOF, before we consider the teams who need some time-traveling/descendant excuses merely just to fit into KOF's logic... ¬¬


...That is, unless they go the "Goddess Athena to Athena Asamiya" route, and make a team with pretty much new characters, design & moveset wise, and just make them carry the name/legacy of their respective ancestors or something. That would be hella cool - almost too good to become true again, actually.


That's actually a pretty cool idea. It would be cool to see a reincarnated Nakoruru and the descendents of Garfield and Hakmaru in a team. You could even continue the love story that Nakoruru and Garfield had in Garfield's ending in Samurai Shodown 2.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on May 20, 2022, 12:15:07 pm
XIII also reused a lot of assets from XII (Vice, Clark, Hwa Jai, Saiki and Mr. Karate were all head swaps) but people didn't seem to mind as the game itself was solid.
But that's because XIII was always meant to be, almost literally, the relplacement and finished version of XII. SNK even went as far as removing XII from online stores after the release of XIII.

XII was an experimental take on the series heading for a new direction at the time (converting to HD sprites). XIV was the same but was heading towards the 3D genre.

XIII and XV both use assets from previous experimental games so I don't see why people are up and arms about the Orochi team being DLC. Heck, KOF'02UM was tagged at full price when they only replaced a single character: K9999 with Nameless and people went ape shit over him for being cool despite being a literal head swap.

But all of a sudden in 2022, people are getting mad about XV for "reusing old assets and making them pay money for it" when they've been doing it for over a decade now.

The main difference is that 2002 UM was a game revision from the start and it was one and done with the initial purchase.
KoF XV already reused a lot in the main game and then have a bunch of rehashed characters on top of it that doubles the price of the original game, Orochi team is just the scapegoat because they are essentially alternate versions of characters that are already in. I personally only got the Garou team (would prefer Grant or Kevin Rian instead of Rock tho) and will be passing on the three remaining teams until they are discounted.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 20, 2022, 05:22:43 pm
XIII and XV both use assets from previous experimental games so I don't see why people are up and arms about the Orochi team being DLC. Heck, KOF'02UM was tagged at full price when they only replaced a single character: K9999 with Nameless and people went ape shit over him for being cool despite being a literal head swap.

But all of a sudden in 2022, people are getting mad about XV for "reusing old assets and making them pay money for it" when they've been doing it for over a decade now.

Yup, they only replaced a single character. And ported all other characters to a new engine. And then included literally every previous fighter from the games of that saga, along with their variations. And rebalanced the entire cast, adding the moves they had previously + some brand new stuff too. And changed the music, menus, stages, the arcade mode... And added some new game modes along with it.

Do you actually think a full-game price tag isn't justifiable in this case?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 20, 2022, 09:54:54 pm

XV literally checks every single box 02UM did.

And as far as I'm concerned, if 02UM deserves a full price tag for doing just that, XV is worth every penny also.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on May 20, 2022, 11:29:31 pm
Let's call this game "KoFXIV UM" from now onwards

No joke, it really is lol.
Just like XIII was XII UM haha
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on May 20, 2022, 11:33:52 pm
Lol, sorry! :tongue3: I ended up deleting my previous post to structurate it a little more. I feel like a dummy now :P

Correct, I guess. Even if this new content line-up looks a little more questionable than the previous, "traditional" games.

It's settled, then. Let's call this game "KoFXIV UM" from now onwards. :pleased:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on May 22, 2022, 05:42:36 pm
Its because the new characters in 14 wasnt as popular as they thought will be. So now they are playing safe. But i do wish to see more old characters in 15.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on June 10, 2022, 08:03:39 pm
New patch released, mostly fixes some bugs or unintended behavior.

Sound coming from the controller is disabled for now until an issue involving it can be resolved.

Seems like input lag has been decreased, can't confirm.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on June 10, 2022, 09:45:26 pm

Seems like input lag has been decreased, can't confirm.
playstation 5 only
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on June 21, 2022, 10:45:09 am
Next DLC Team:

At least they wore a different outfit
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 21, 2022, 12:16:31 pm
looks like not many people are making a fuss about this team for reusing assets than expected.
that's good. though the basic attacks will prob be the same, the special moves will be different.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on June 21, 2022, 12:44:34 pm
Because they already reached critical disappointment with the crypto NFT garbage, making the rehashed Orochi Orochi Team a bit less concerning. At least I don't feel bad about skipping it anymore.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on June 21, 2022, 01:12:13 pm
True, some comments were saying this was a way to try to erase/avoid the NFT thing.

No gameplay was sad, but at least they are confirmed.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on June 21, 2022, 02:58:38 pm
Let me guess AUG 5-7  ::)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 21, 2022, 04:41:40 pm
So SNK is going NFT route? Well, I thought it was a good thing that KoF and SamSho were rising again, but it seems that SNK deserves to just die. I'll just pirate their games if I want to play them.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on June 21, 2022, 04:47:14 pm
orochi team is so lazy, they should have been secret characters like in 98 and 2002 by default
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on June 21, 2022, 07:36:47 pm
So SNK is going NFT route? Well, I thought it was a good thing that KoF and SamSho were rising again, but it seems that SNK deserves to just die. I'll just pirate their games if I want to play them.

No one is forcing you to buy their games.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 22, 2022, 12:19:18 am
So SNK is going NFT route? Well, I thought it was a good thing that KoF and SamSho were rising again, but it seems that SNK deserves to just die. I'll just pirate their games if I want to play them.

No one is forcing you to buy their games.

That is obvious, what is your point?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on June 22, 2022, 01:53:57 am
So SNK is going NFT route? Well, I thought it was a good thing that KoF and SamSho were rising again, but it seems that SNK deserves to just die. I'll just pirate their games if I want to play them.

No one is forcing you to buy their games.

That is obvious, what is your point?

SNK created their characters so they have all the right to do whatever they want with them. So complaining, whinning, crying over the NFT is plain stupid(not calling you stupid, just the behaviour). Also, stating in the same line that you're going to play a pirate version of XV is a more stupid behaviour: Think that they earn their money because we buy their games. If we buy, they can work on those titles. If they work on those titles, you can have a KOF XVI in the future. And don't even go for the "if I'm paying them, I'm their boss" because that's a more stupid line than the previous statement.

I don't like the Neo Orochi Team or whatever stupid name they gave to it, specially because of the outfits(I think I've seen those exac outfits in mugen or artworks). But if SNK owns the rights to the characters, they're fully thems. If the creators of those outfits(fans, as we are) wants to sue them, they're on their right, but SNK will have the upper hand in a trial.

If I for example, do an outfit for, let's say, Chun Li, and Capcom dcides to put it in SF6 I won't care. Oh wait, Capcom already used fan designs in SFV and no one complained. So what? You want to piracy XV? Go ahead. But I don't want to see you crying over "no new KOFs" in the future :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on June 22, 2022, 02:52:37 am
Not trying to put words on someone's mouth, but I think his point was meant to come down as, "There's no point in even wanting a new KOF game, if they're likely gonna treat their franchise in such a questionable way."
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 22, 2022, 04:16:04 am
Thanks for sparing me the trouble.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on June 22, 2022, 04:45:53 am
Though I'm heavily against NFTs, SNK is really desperate for money so I'm not a bit surprised. Besides, I heard that other Japanese gaming companies are starting to venture out into the world of NFTs so this is nothing new.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on June 22, 2022, 08:55:57 am
(I think I've seen those exac outfits in mugen or artworks).
Those are from official artworks from back in 97.
They're not fan made.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Deadface on June 22, 2022, 09:33:59 am
'98, technically. Though granted, those artworks were in black and white.
(https://i.imgur.com/UUzlqtO.png)
KOFAS has O. Yashiro and O. Chris in these outfits, but they're Goenitz blue. This red version is entirely new!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on June 22, 2022, 09:43:47 am
Not trying to put words on someone's mouth, but I think his point was meant to come down as, "There's no point in even wanting a new KOF game, if they're likely gonna treat their franchise in such a questionable way."
Then let him to do his own kof. SNK has the right to do whatever they want with their characters and the franchise.

Thanks for the light, Byakko and Deadface.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 22, 2022, 05:48:58 pm
Sorry if I offended your precious company by saying that I will not support them doing something stupid. SNK can do what they want with their franchise, I can also go outside and kick an old lady in the face, doesn't mean either of those things are good.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on June 22, 2022, 05:55:31 pm
One of them is legal. Did someone shit in your soup ??
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on June 22, 2022, 09:06:40 pm
Sorry if I offended your precious company by saying that I will not support them doing something stupid. SNK can do what they want with their franchise, I can also go outside and kick an old lady in the face, doesn't mean either of those things are good.
Get the rights != being official
If you refer to this (https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2022/jun/21/king-fighters-nft-crypto/), let me say you this is confirmed it's not official... or even would be made at all, but if this comes true eventually, it's not made by SNK, it's like to say that All-Stars is official and canon, which is only another gacha game with SNK rights, which doesn't mean the game belongs to SNK at all.

Also, this thread is for KOFXV, if you want to discuss about that NFT or how SNK manage its franchises rights, go to fucking somewhere and make your own fucking thread instead to keep derailing this one. And I say to everyone else here, not specifically to someone. Thanks :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on June 23, 2022, 12:41:24 am
Sorry if I offended your precious company by saying that I will not support them doing something stupid. SNK can do what they want with their franchise, I can also go outside and kick an old lady in the face, doesn't mean either of those things are good.

There are times when I ask myself: Does Macaulyn reads himself or he just throw some nonsenses for being trending topic in the Guild?

Grow, dude. If you don't agree with SNK choices, then create your own team, game, etc. Of course, in 3D with lots of characters and etc. But of course, it's easier to blahblahblah than move a single finger.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 23, 2022, 01:41:12 am
Enough.

As in "That is".
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on July 28, 2022, 04:37:01 am
Team Awakened Orochi trailer just dropped.



I'm loving the look of Yashiro!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on July 28, 2022, 04:40:55 pm
Team Awakened Orochi trailer just dropped.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnQ3zwO5N_A&ab_channel=SNKOFFICIAL[/youtube]

I'm loving the look of Yashiro!
Im a bit disappointing because the changes for them are not dramatically different. they just copied and pasted others attacks that is already in the game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 28, 2022, 05:20:07 pm
Oh, you mean they're low-effort copies whose sale is a scam? I'm so surprised...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on July 28, 2022, 05:46:40 pm
Oh, you mean they're low-effort copies whose sale is a scam? I'm so surprised...

yes.! they are just salling 2 characters that are already in the game except for  Yachiro that's become in Goro daemon now wtf?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on July 28, 2022, 07:39:25 pm
They are missing some of the old special moves too, the corner cutting on this trio is impressive.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on July 28, 2022, 07:47:57 pm
You guys have to be taking the piss, right ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on July 28, 2022, 08:41:17 pm
Not sure what anyone was expecting from these three.

Gonna miss the Orochi transformation on Chris' end tho.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on July 28, 2022, 08:51:37 pm
Why do people expect this team to be completely unique to the standard CYS team? Historically their normal, command and even throws were exactly the same with only the special/supers changing because, y'know... not holding the Orochi influence back. I didn't expect anything more than that when they were announced, but the new outfits are nice and there's a few subtle changes to certain specials/supers. The Climax's are obviously different, which is nice.

(That said, it's nice that we're getting the classic/alternate costumes bundled in rather than another DLC thing)

Could they have just been an unlockable? Quite possibly. But it's sadly the norm for companies now to go the DLC route, regardless. There could have been other teams instead, but that wasn't our choice.

Personally, I'm looking forward to them.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on July 28, 2022, 09:25:10 pm
The alternate costumes are just the base character outfits but tinted, they didn't even bother giving them something like the original costumes.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on July 28, 2022, 09:44:49 pm
The alternate costumes are just the base character outfits but tinted, they didn't even bother giving them something like the original costumes.

So... basically as they would have been if they were the old sprites. It's a subtle nod to previous titles. They didn't have to give us those, but they did.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on July 28, 2022, 09:45:06 pm
Oh, you mean they're low-effort copies whose sale is a scam? I'm so surprised...

yes.! they are just salling 2 characters that are already in the game except for  Yachiro that's become in Goro daemon now wtf?

you've never played orochi yashiro before?

he was talking about cys normals not their specials. they look ok the only gripe i have is chris not transforming into orochi himself as his level 3 should be.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on July 28, 2022, 09:51:03 pm
The alternate costumes are just the base character outfits but tinted, they didn't even bother giving them something like the original costumes.

So... basically as they would have been if they were the old sprites. It's a subtle nod to previous titles. They didn't have to give us those, but they did.

Yeah, how nice of SNK of giving us some costumes that any modder could do in fifteen minutes.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DarkWolf13 on July 28, 2022, 10:01:07 pm
At least O. Shermie's Lv 3 isn't a risk-or-take anymore, I won't miss that super.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on July 28, 2022, 10:54:10 pm
Yeah, how nice of SNK of giving us some costumes that any modder could do in fifteen minutes.

If you're on PC, yeah. I play on PS4, so it's a nice bonus.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: EveryonesKouhai on July 28, 2022, 11:50:16 pm
Yeah, how nice of SNK of giving us some costumes that any modder could do in fifteen minutes.

you gotta be pretty stupid to think modding is that fast
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on July 28, 2022, 11:59:29 pm
Yeah, how nice of SNK of giving us some costumes that any modder could do in fifteen minutes.

you gotta be pretty stupid to think modding is that fast
Oh, I'm sure you would need thousands of hours of work to change Chris' shirt and eye color to maroon
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on July 29, 2022, 12:34:05 am
At least O. Shermie's Lv 3 isn't a risk-or-take anymore, I won't miss that super.

Yeah, that's probably the 2nd dumbest thing in a fighting game I've seen (1st being Sanji being unable to fight women in Burning Blood & Jump Force).
Why they kept that in UM is beyond me, but in any case, Team Awakened Orochi looks good, I'm looking forward to seeing their move-lists.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Umezono on July 29, 2022, 01:34:06 am
Oh, you mean they're low-effort copies whose sale is a scam? I'm so surprised...

yes.! they are just salling 2 characters that are already in the game except for  Yachiro that's become in Goro daemon now wtf?

are you serious LOL
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Croix12 on July 29, 2022, 02:17:14 am
God, what a scan! They just giving them the outfits of the regular versions is so hilarious, go to hell, SNK!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on July 29, 2022, 03:28:43 am
I'm loving the look of Yashiro!
Me too, loved their own and unique Goenitz version for their costumes, and even they made Orochi colors for normal versions for free, that was so cool :D

Im a bit disappointing because the changes for them are not dramatically different. they just copied and pasted others attacks that is already in the game.
How to say you never played KOF97-98-2002-Neowave without saying it be like:

God, what a scan! They just giving them the outfits of the regular versions is so hilarious, go to hell, SNK!
Bro, this is not Dead or Alive nor Tekken where all chars have special skins/change of clothes instead of palettes. Nu-SNK made that with few chars only, not with all, only with Terry, Leona and Team Southtown they outnumbered the special skins they made in KOFXIV
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 29, 2022, 01:04:40 pm
my real annoyance is that this is Team Awakened Orochi in the first place

...that DLC spot could have been used on Team Kim instead, where the FUCK is Kim? He never missed out on a KOF before, why would he suddenly do it NOW?!

and while we're at it: where's Kensou? where's Shingo? where's Oswald? where's Shen? where's Duo Lon?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on July 29, 2022, 01:53:55 pm
that DLC spot could have been used
It's 2022, who still believes that a DLC spot could have been used for someone else instead
It was a massive disappointment for everyone when it finally sunk in that the roster was slashed down from the previous game, but to look at one specific DLC team and be disappointed by that team ? Why aren't you disappointed in the Geese team ? Why aren't you disappointed in the final 4th team ? Why this one ? The Orochi team has a big fanbase and they were basically guaranteed since the ending of XIV. This reaction is just super weird.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 29, 2022, 05:29:56 pm
he was talking about cys normals not their specials. they look ok the only gripe i have is chris not transforming into orochi himself as his level 3 should be.

No it shouldn't. 2002 is not canon. It didn't make any sense back then, and it would make even less sense now.

my real annoyance is that this is Team Awakened Orochi in the first place

...that DLC spot could have been used on Team Kim instead, where the FUCK is Kim? He never missed out on a KOF before, why would he suddenly do it NOW?!

and while we're at it: where's Kensou? where's Shingo? where's Oswald? where's Shen? where's Duo Lon?

Sorry but "they should've added X character instead" isn't an argument, this is just saying you don't like it because it isn't the character "you" wanted.

Personally I think this is the sort of stuff that should be either an unlockable in the base game or free DLC, not paid stuff.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on July 29, 2022, 08:03:48 pm
Personally I think this is the sort of stuff that should be either an unlockable in the base game or free DLC, not paid stuff.
Sadly that's the problem with actual videogames in general, all the extra content goes into DLC instead of be unlockable content as it was before, with some few exceptions (like Casey Jones in TMNT: Shredder's Revenge)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on July 29, 2022, 08:08:14 pm
where the FUCK is Kim?
Getting his pants tailor made again after his recent appearance caused trauma towards motion pants lovers.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on July 29, 2022, 08:25:46 pm
all the extra content goes into DLC instead of be unlockable content as it was before
It's pretty obvious that the budget is not the same. They budget content for the base game, and then they budget more content for after that initial content is made, with money that doesn't come from the base price. Unlockable content in old games was obviously budgeted as part of the initial game.
The shift here is that the content they can make with the initial budget from the base sales numbers comes out smaller than the content that could be made before, so they make a first batch, and then everything else is budgeted with DLC sales.
Believe it or not, there's definitely extra work involved in making the Orochi versions of CYS and converting Geese's team with new outfits, and that work is budgeted with DLC sales.
It's not rocket science.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Seadragon77 on July 29, 2022, 09:34:52 pm
It's nice to me, as a person who isn't as familiar to the King of Fighters series, to see what the Orochi version of this team would be like.

I had no idea that Orochi Yashiro was a grappler and Orochi Shermie could summon lightening (although wasn't that something she had back in... I want to say 02?)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Deadface on July 29, 2022, 09:43:45 pm
Yes, because the Orochi team is meant to be a direct parallel of the Hero team.
I must confess, despite loving KOF for over 20 years, I never actually made the connection until last night, because I always played Orochi Yashiro above the others and I never touched Daimon once in my whole life. No Daimon in XV certainly didn't help lmao, I needed O.Yash's Climax for it to click like "OH SO THAT'S WHY SHERMIE IS JUST BENIMARU 2 IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW"

God, what a scan! They just giving them the outfits of the regular versions is so hilarious, go to hell, SNK!
I don't want to sound mean, so I'm gonna hold back. Their alternate costumes are literally just doing what the Orochi team used to do since '97. You are getting mad over nothing. If it was their default costumes I'd understand, but you're getting mad over a harmless extra. Seek help.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 29, 2022, 10:02:06 pm
where the FUCK is Kim?
Getting his pants tailor made again after his recent appearance caused trauma towards motion pants lovers.
If you ask me he should just show up without pants...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on July 29, 2022, 10:06:41 pm
Like I said before, I don't have a problem with the awakened orochi team themselves. My problem is, that they could have been added as like, "Oh you can select them by holding start, or whatever," like in the previous games, instead of a whole damn dlc team. It doesn't help that KOF XV has virtually no bonus content to grind for, like where is survival, single play, etc! or even offer more content for boss rush, like add ReVerse or Otoma Raga and add some bonus shit there, even adding the awakened orochi forms for boss rush would be a neat little thing to add, and could have been a way to unlock their classic costumes, something! But no, all we have is a glorified arcade mode and a rundown mission mode (boss rush is literally "just fight omega rugal").

The game had so, so, so much potential to be awesome, and they have the starting grounds, but that's all it is right now still, starting grounds. It feels like a more refined XIV, much like how XIII was a much more refined XII, or how XI was a much more refined 2003. Is that the new standard? Release a decent or not so good but something that has potential, game, then release a slightly better game but its still basically the same game? The old games managed to make each entry feel fresh, even with the yearly releases, and in that regard, recycled content was more understandable!

They had like between 5 and 7 years for KOF XV, no excuse as to how 80% of the fucking game is just recycled content. The least they could do was give characters new or returning moves or supers (yes im aware a few characters did get special treatment like Terry, but that is one of the only exceptions). Like I would have loved to see Ryo's Jump chop, Kyokukenryu Renbuuken, Kohou Shippuken, or even some of King's crazy shit she could do in 98 or 2002 UM, anything to give them more life and charm!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on July 30, 2022, 12:06:16 am
Like I said before, I don't have a problem with the awakened orochi team themselves. My problem is, that they could have been added as like, "Oh you can select them by holding start, or whatever," like in the previous games, instead of a whole damn dlc team. It doesn't help that KOF XV has virtually no bonus content to grind for, like where is survival, single play, etc! or even offer more content for boss rush, like add ReVerse or Otoma Raga and add some bonus shit there, even adding the awakened orochi forms for boss rush would be a neat little thing to add, and could have been a way to unlock their classic costumes, something! But no, all we have is a glorified arcade mode and a rundown mission mode (boss rush is literally "just fight omega rugal").

The game had so, so, so much potential to be awesome, and they have the starting grounds, but that's all it is right now still, starting grounds. It feels like a more refined XIV, much like how XIII was a much more refined XII, or how XI was a much more refined 2003. Is that the new standard? Release a decent or not so good but something that has potential, game, then release a slightly better game but its still basically the same game? The old games managed to make each entry feel fresh, even with the yearly releases, and in that regard, recycled content was more understandable!

They had like between 5 and 7 years for KOF XV, no excuse as to how 80% of the fucking game is just recycled content. The least they could do was give characters new or returning moves or supers (yes im aware a few characters did get special treatment like Terry, but that is one of the only exceptions). Like I would have loved to see Ryo's Jump chop, Kyokukenryu Renbuuken, Kohou Shippuken, or even some of King's crazy shit she could do in 98 or 2002 UM, anything to give them more life and charm!

Yeah. I’m not really too thrilled about Team Awakened Orochi being a paid DLC team ether, even though the characters themselves look cool. That said, I think they decided to make them DLC over the other teams in the base roster to make the base roster look better, and because they figured they probably wouldn’t have been able to feasibly make, say, Team Secret Agent, a DLC team, namely since characters like Mary & Vanessa were already DLC in XIV.

Granted, they did still do that with Rock and Yamazaki, but they probably felt more confident with those since Rock had 2 other fan favorites that weren’t in XIV on his team, and Yamazaki teamed with Geese after his super popular Tekken 7 crossover DLC.

Also in terms of the extra moves, as much as I’d like to see some more of the UM specials return, that would probably require a significant reworking of all the characters and the system itself, depending on how many of them they would want to add. They probably just decided to refine and tweak it like they did because they thought it would still work well without changing a gigantic amount, and I believe it still does (though I personally like how XIV handled EX Moves & Max Mode better, but that’s just me and besides the point).

I think KOF XV probably could have been more than it already given the timespan and how XIV had a larger base roster, (which is partially why I don’t have a copy of it yet), but at the same time, I think a lot of it was trimming the fat and trying to refine the game instead of trying to fix what wasn’t broken to begin with.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on July 30, 2022, 01:02:23 am
Right now for me, it's actually not bad at all seeing the Awakened Orochi Team finally getting the proper treatment as playable characters again.

It's just that this means it will take soooo muuuuuch more time until we see more actual new faces being revealed to the public... :[

Nothing remarkable showed up since this post, so my thoughts keep the same.


that DLC spot could have been used
It's 2022, who still believes that a DLC spot could have been used for someone else instead
It was a massive disappointment for everyone when it finally sunk in that the roster was slashed down from the previous game, but to look at one specific DLC team and be disappointed by that team ? Why aren't you disappointed in the Geese team ? Why aren't you disappointed in the final 4th team ? Why this one ? The Orochi team has a big fanbase and they were basically guaranteed since the ending of XIV. This reaction is just super weird.

If this makes you feel better, there are people out there who indeed feels disappointed with, quite literally, every single paid DLC choice for this game.

• I actually gotta specify it's only the paid team ones, because holy hell dat Rugal outta nowhere...!!! How's it even the same marketing team behind all those ideas?!? :pwn:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on July 30, 2022, 01:14:11 am
Quote

If this makes you feel better, there are people out there who indeed feels disappointed with, quite literally, every single paid DLC choice for this game.

• I actually gotta specify it's only the paid team ones, because holy hell dat Rugal outta nowhere...!!! How's it even the same marketing team behind all those ideas?!? :pwn:


Team Garou was at the very least fine because atleast we got Jenet and Gato, fighters we haven't seen since Kof 11, and in Gato's case, the first time he has been in a 3D Kof game. Team Southtown was literally copy paste from Kof 14, with the exception of Billy's new super and Geese having rashoumon as a SECOND LEVEL 3 (why couldnt they replace his useless grab super is beyond me). If for example, instead of Billy, we got Kain, it would have been a different story because it would have been more unique for the team, and the character obviously not being a copy and paste.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on July 30, 2022, 01:24:27 am

Team Garou was at the very least fine because atleast we got Jenet and Gato, fighters we haven't seen since Kof 11, and in Gato's case, the first time he has been in a 3D Kof game. Team Southtown was literally copy paste from Kof 14, with the exception of Billy's new super and Geese having rashoumon as a SECOND LEVEL 3 (why couldnt they replace his useless grab super is beyond me). If for example, instead of Billy, we got Kain, it would have been a different story because it would have been more unique for the team, and the character obviously not being a copy and paste.

They got a couple other new moves other than those in XV: Billy’s old KOF counter, Geese’s 96 DP+P, Yamazaki’s OTG stomp from Real Bout 2, and such. So while most of it is the same from XIV with modified frame data, it’s not really a complete copy and paste ether, it’s more like using the XIV versions as the base.

Also, if the useless grab super your talking about is Oni Hanmon, that super is not useless, as it’s a frame 1 counter super that can counter pretty much any physical attack that’s not a throw and do massive damage, in addition to being Advanced or Climax Canceled.

Unless your talking about Rashomon as the useless grab super, in which case that’s not useless ether since it’s active from the moment it starts, it’s unblockable, and it also does massive damage.

Also, I think there was probably no way they could replace Billy with Kain since Billy’s been in pretty much a vast majority of the KOF games, while SNK’s kind of mostly dropped Kain after Garou, other than a few cameos.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on July 30, 2022, 03:47:11 am
so looking at their level 3s for orochi new faces team i noticed a few things here

orochi yashiro can do a power bomb like alex from street fighter 3

orochi shermie can shoot lightning from her foot

orochi chris does a sonic boom at the end of his level 3
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 05, 2022, 04:45:01 pm
Team Awakened Orochi's Story
https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/kof-xv/teams/
Guess who's back as well? its trending in twitter now
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 05, 2022, 05:36:59 pm
Who is back?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 05, 2022, 06:03:56 pm
Who is back?

The man, the myth, the legend -- Goenitz.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 05, 2022, 08:51:11 pm
And the biggest change to Goenitz's character:  He now knows how to use a smartphone.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 05, 2022, 11:55:05 pm
Crossplay announced for the game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 06, 2022, 01:34:57 am
Season 2 boss rush go
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 06, 2022, 05:41:12 pm
found this on twitter during the evo2022:
https://twitter.com/orochinagicom/status/1555616662099038212
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 06, 2022, 05:52:46 pm
I mean, technically they are completely different characters so I guess it doesn't matter?
You could choose Kyo-1, Kyo-2, KUSANAGI and Kyo together in previous titles so...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 06, 2022, 06:18:00 pm
in the past kof titles, the orochi team and their awakened versions are not allowed to be teamed together, the only exceptions are the kyo clones from kof99, kof2003 and kof2002um
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 06, 2022, 10:13:21 pm
So the new team thats gonna be announced is a outworld team. Dunno if they are all snk characters or guest characters though.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on August 06, 2022, 11:21:32 pm
Base on the leak
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/rh4osg/king_of_fighters_xv_final_base_game_characters/
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 06, 2022, 11:45:48 pm
nice pick i like darli's game play. though she's kinda slow for kof gameplay.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on August 07, 2022, 01:10:57 am
 whyyyyy darli though. Genjuro or Ukyo would have been like a million times better pics than her
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 07, 2022, 07:35:01 am
whyyyyy darli though. Genjuro or Ukyo would have been like a million times better pics than her

I would've picked Amakusa, instead of Darli.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 07, 2022, 11:53:16 am
she's the new comer plus she was popular. hope this isn't the last guest characters we get it's weird seeing a team of just one franchise guess they'll do them by team now. hoping to see a metal slug team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 07, 2022, 03:41:29 pm
I'd rather have a team of Nako, Hanzo and Ukyo personally. And if it was to pick a newcomer Ruixiang would be a much better fit.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Little Fox: Tres Truenos on August 07, 2022, 04:01:06 pm
I'm okay with Darling being included and it makes sense that she is the third member of the team since according to a couple polls she is one of the most popular characters in the recent game.
1) Evemthubs poll- https://www.eventhubs.com/stats/samurai-shodown/
2) Krispykaiser poll- https://twitter.com/KRISPYKAISER/status/1191596555226079232
Though I agree there are many other cool Samsho guys and gals that are worthy of that third spot.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 07, 2022, 04:23:13 pm
My issue with her is more about her weapon. Unless they make her not use it on her normals she could end having an abnormal advantage.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 07, 2022, 10:27:27 pm


Shingo and pantsless Kim Kaphwan confirmed to be included in the next wave of DLC content coming at the start of the new year.

Team Samurai of Haohmaru, Nakoruru, and Darl announced and will be arriving later this month
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 07, 2022, 10:39:55 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/WnPWoEq.png)

HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: WF4123 on August 07, 2022, 10:41:57 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/WnPWoEq.png)

HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE.

Shingo's back! "Cha-cha-chaaaaaaaaaan!"
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on August 07, 2022, 11:29:54 pm
Still soured to the fact they passed on Galford for Darli Dagger, so the only one out of those I'm getting is Shingo, I'll consider if Kim is redone using the low res KoFs as basis instead of XIII
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on August 08, 2022, 01:01:01 am
There is missing one character
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 08, 2022, 01:08:40 am
There is missing one character

?

I don't see anyone missing. Just teasers and unrevealed characters.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on August 08, 2022, 01:49:00 am
There is missing one character

?

I don't see anyone missing. Just teasers and unrevealed characters.

they're 3 characters for team, King, Shingo, ????? so there missing one character they didn't show us
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 08, 2022, 01:53:54 am
....... I highly doubt Kim and Shingo are on the same team lol

I think they're just teasers for individual teams, or possibly individual DLC characters. We don't know yet.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 08, 2022, 02:17:22 am
Likely each of them will be on a separate team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 08, 2022, 02:19:29 am
I am kinda curious why would Shingo go to Kim for any sort of reason so I have doubts they become a team.

Then again, Goenitz just learned how to use a smartphone so anything's possible I guess.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 08, 2022, 02:27:47 am
There's several shadows with Shingo and Kim.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 08, 2022, 04:44:43 am
My most likely thoughts are

Kim/Jhun/May Lee
Shingo/Daimon/Saisyu

just cause it makes the most sense to me. But I'm all for having my expectations further shattered.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Deadface on August 08, 2022, 04:55:15 am
My money's on all six newcomers being edit units.
I mean come on, if there were any teams, they would've gathered up the silhouettes together, and they wouldn't release teams as independent characters. It is most likely six characters spread out across a whole year, let's not drag the game's tagline to the ground by having actual unrealistic expectations.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on August 08, 2022, 05:02:58 am
My money's on all six newcomers being edit units.
I mean come on, if there were any teams, they would've gathered up the silhouettes together, and they wouldn't release teams as independent characters. It is most likely six characters spread out across a whole year, let's not drag the game's tagline to the ground by having actual unrealistic expectations.

except the games whole fucking point is "shatter your expectations." what a lie of a tagline that was
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on August 08, 2022, 05:04:31 am
let's not drag the game's tagline to the ground by having actual unrealistic expectations.

Nah that's more fun lol

Who knows, we'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Deadface on August 08, 2022, 05:13:21 am
except the games whole fucking point is "shatter your expectations." what a lie of a tagline that was
The tagline was "shatter your expectations" because it introduced Shatter Strike and brought long-time favorites like Chizuru, CYS and fucking K9999 for the first time in well over a decade, I'd say it lived up to the tagline quite well.

The hell did you expect, the continuation of the Dragon arc? Like why are you being so negative lmfao

Nah that's more fun lol
lol I respect it
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 08, 2022, 07:35:51 am
Nah, I say Shingo and Kim will be in separate teams.

Reason 1, they only teased rough drafts of Shingo/Kim, meaning they haven't even finalized their 3d models yet.
Reason 2, they have 0 connection and have no agency in the storyline to be together (if DLC chars are canon as people told me).
Reason 3, SNK is literally reusing assets for Awakened Orochi team and SamSho team so they'll be making new assets for the next season.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 08, 2022, 08:39:47 am
Nah, I say Shingo and Kim will be in separate teams.

Reason 1, they only teased rough drafts of Shingo/Kim, meaning they haven't even finalized their 3d models yet.
Reason 2, they have 0 connection and have no agency in the storyline to be together (if DLC chars are canon as people told me).
Reason 3, SNK is literally reusing assets for Awakened Orochi team and SamSho team so they'll be making new assets for the next season.

I second that! For the same reasons.

The only possible way for them to team up would be in some kind of "Justice team", but it will not happen.
Giving Kim his own Team would be a chance to see Jhun Hoon back... Perhaps...

It would definitely sound more interesting to have them in different teams even for SNK's buiness... (splitting them in 2 different DLC)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 08, 2022, 10:09:28 am
Giving Kim his own Team would be a chance to see Jhun Hoon back... Perhaps...

It would definitely sound more interesting to have them in different teams even for SNK's buiness... (splitting them in 2 different DLC)

Maybe. They'll use Kim's old assets again from 14 and Shingo shares a lot of moves with Kyo so they'll have more resources to spare for new characters like "Jhun".
I wish Shingo comes back with Oswald, Shen Woo or Duo Lon while Kim brings back Jhun and May Lee (NOT Gang-il, Chang and Choi). But who knows.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 08, 2022, 10:21:53 am
i want some wild team comps. like shingo teaming up with some kof ex guys. for kim isn't one of the jin brothers became his disciple? that'll be dope if they team up with kim and have their magic bullshit moves fused with taekwondo attacks.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on August 08, 2022, 10:31:00 am
Giving Kim his own Team would be a chance to see Jhun Hoon back... Perhaps...

It would definitely sound more interesting to have them in different teams even for SNK's buiness... (splitting them in 2 different DLC)

Maybe. They'll use Kim's old assets again from 14 and Shingo shares a lot of moves with Kyo so they'll have more resources to spare for new characters like "Jhun".
I wish Shingo comes back with Oswald, Shen Woo or Duo Lon while Kim brings back Jhun and May Lee (NOT Gang-il, Chang and Choi). But who knows.

Yes, this idea...
I'm not missing Chang and Choi either ^^; J. Hoon and May Lee would be a good choice!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 08, 2022, 12:07:52 pm
i want some wild team comps. like shingo teaming up with some kof ex guys. for kim isn't one of the jin brothers became his disciple? that'll be dope if they team up with kim and have their magic bullshit moves fused with taekwondo attacks.

Ahhhhh, I've seen that before. It was Chonshu *I think*. But I think that's non-canon in KOF since that happened in Fatal Fury.
I'd say his sons have a higher chance in joining (since Rock is also from the same game they're from) than Chonshu. Gang-il already has most of their moves already, they could reuse that.

Or.... Worst case scenario...

Gang-il comes back with Chang and Choi (2 in 1 like in CVS) lol XP
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on August 08, 2022, 01:50:54 pm
Considering how they handled the DLC till now I expect for him to be bundled with Chang and Choi for another reuse.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 08, 2022, 03:30:32 pm
It would really shatter my expectations if Kim dad was in a team with his Kim kids from Garou.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 08, 2022, 03:32:18 pm
I would say have Kim team up with two villains from Art of Fighting series, lag of Art of Fighting franchise characters to be in as several Garou Fatal Fury teams have took up from the previous season. I was going to choose Mr. Big and Eiji Kisaragi where Kim Kaphwan defeats them to join him for rehabilitation like what he did to Chang, Choi, Raiden and Hwai Jai, but I felt like it would be better to have Jack Turner and John Crawley, fighters that have not been in other past Kof titles yet :8):
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on August 08, 2022, 05:46:50 pm
except the games whole fucking point is "shatter your expectations." what a lie of a tagline that was
The tagline was "shatter your expectations" because it introduced Shatter Strike and brought long-time favorites like Chizuru, CYS and fucking K9999 for the first time in well over a decade, I'd say it lived up to the tagline quite well.

The hell did you expect, the continuation of the Dragon arc? Like why are you being so negative lmfao

Nah that's more fun lol
lol I respect it

I guess a few returning characters and a new mechanic is expectation shatter worthy, when 80 percent of the whole fucking game is just recycled from 14. Like, they could have atleast spruced up the characters movesets. 14 and 15 have the most dumbed down versions of the characters yet. No excuse to reuse 80 percent of 14, they had like 6 years to develop the damn game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on August 09, 2022, 12:36:16 pm
I would say have Kim team up with two villains from Art of Fighting series, lag of Art of Fighting franchise characters to be in as several Garou Fatal Fury teams have took up from the previous season. I was going to choose Mr. Big and Eiji Kisaragi where Kim Kaphwan defeats them to join him for rehabilitation like what he did to Chang, Choi, Raiden and Hwai Jai, but I felt like it would be better to have Jack Turner and John Crawley, fighters that have not been in other past Kof titles yet :8):

not the big villains but more like franco bash or lee.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on August 09, 2022, 09:53:15 pm
What are the chances of Chonrei and Chonshu teaming up with Kim are? Chonshu is technically one of Kim's students so him having a few moves mixed with his classic play style would be nice. Chonrei could be a potential rival for Shunei and Meitenkun as he is sort of their senior. Plus given they were villains, think of interactions with O.Chris, Yamazaki, and Geese with Chonshu. Chonrei vs Gato, Terry, Ash, Shunei and/or Meitenkun etc, is also interesting.

You could also have the two in separate teams with Chonshu in Kim's team & Chonrei is in the same team with Shingo.

Storywise you can have the brothers interested in the new protagonists as they could meet up with them based on the Hero Team's ending.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on August 09, 2022, 11:47:06 pm
not the big villains but more like franco bash or lee.

I would LOVE to see Bash in a KoF! Or Bob Wilson.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 11, 2022, 05:58:45 pm
not the big villains but more like franco bash or lee.
I would love to have franco bash too, franco bash + axel hawk + michael max or rick strowd = team southtown boxer  :mlol:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 13, 2022, 04:36:55 pm
Now apparently, there's a leak in regards to season 2 DLC characters. (Take it with a grain of salt though).
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on August 13, 2022, 04:47:49 pm
Now apparently, there's a leak in regards to season 2 DLC characters. (Take it with a grain of salt though).
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I do take it with a grain of salt. It just makes me think the leaker just really wants Duck King back.

I'd rather wait and see if people datamine anything tbh.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on August 13, 2022, 04:50:34 pm
If that ends to be true the second year of DLC will be about as disappointing as the first.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 13, 2022, 05:49:39 pm
I do take it with a grain of salt. It just makes me think the leaker just really wants Duck King back.

Yeah... that part is really weird. But, rumor has it that the leaker is the same person who leaked the first season's DLC roster so we might have to wait and see lol.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on August 13, 2022, 05:57:18 pm
I'm starting to believe Shwa's theory to be true that Season 2's teams are edits rather than official pairings because one of them makes absolutely no sense from a lore standpoint.

Spoiler: because if not (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: DauntlessMonk7 on August 13, 2022, 06:37:29 pm
I do take it with a grain of salt. It just makes me think the leaker just really wants Duck King back.
I'd rather wait and see if people determine anything tbh.
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 13, 2022, 06:47:42 pm
Now apparently, there's a leak in regards to season 2 DLC characters. (Take it with a grain of salt though).
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 13, 2022, 07:04:21 pm
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 13, 2022, 07:33:37 pm
Season 1 was leaked when the beta 2 was datamined, there's zero reason to believe anyone coming out of the woods with a random list like that. It just feels like back when the game was still over a couple years away and there were a whole lots of crazy lists zipping around. The Shingo / Kim tease was barely a pair of design sketches, I can't imagine they've even begun to do any work on all of this.
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If that ends to be true the second year of DLC will be about as disappointing as the first.
There are people everywhere that would be disappointed no matter what, even by something decent, so who cares.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Seadragon77 on August 13, 2022, 07:40:47 pm
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 13, 2022, 08:23:30 pm
Now apparently, there's a leak in regards to season 2 DLC characters. (Take it with a grain of salt though).
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 13, 2022, 09:52:55 pm
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People hating on return of SNK best char to make KOF great again

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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on August 13, 2022, 11:15:13 pm
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Nate on August 14, 2022, 03:23:31 am
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 14, 2022, 09:36:22 am
saw this on twitter regarding about the season 2 leak:
https://twitter.com/ChefRaptor/status/1558446539764338688/photo/1
click it in your own risk  :gouki:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 14, 2022, 11:06:29 am
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on August 14, 2022, 01:40:05 pm
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This is confirmed to be from the same dude that leaked the roster before.
Again, that doesn't mean shit.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on August 14, 2022, 03:05:07 pm
Doesn't mind to me the leaks since the past one had almost all correct, but had some issues for me:
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Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on August 14, 2022, 03:54:28 pm
saw this on twitter regarding about the season 2 leak:
https://twitter.com/ChefRaptor/status/1558446539764338688/photo/1
click it in your own risk  :gouki:
...err...you got fooled:
https://twitter.com/ChefRaptor/status/1558459346174066689

that wasn't a leak, that was just a prank
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on August 14, 2022, 03:55:48 pm
Ah, now that makes more sense lol.

The leak that I was provided with is also "allegedly" from the leaker that leaked season 1, but judging by this cheeky prank, mine could be completely wrong too. haha :P
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on August 14, 2022, 04:40:08 pm
:lol:saw this on twitter regarding about the season 2 leak:
https://twitter.com/ChefRaptor/status/1558446539764338688/photo/1
click it in your own risk  :gouki:
...err...you got fooled:
https://twitter.com/ChefRaptor/status/1558459346174066689

that wasn't a leak, that was just a prank
:lol:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SkySplitters on August 14, 2022, 10:59:29 pm
Haha. People see what they want to see. The prank proved that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on August 14, 2022, 11:32:48 pm
i've almost got all the tracks for kofxv and i've got an achievement of landing 50 hits or more in a single combo

now i need to do 900 damage or more
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on September 27, 2022, 04:18:20 pm
The best version of Nakururo is here. I hope the modders works fast to add blood of their attacks
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on September 27, 2022, 05:04:34 pm
My only gripe with this team is... why Darli?

She's not even a samurai when their team's called Team "SAMURAI" and she's not even that popular among the other SamSho roster. Charlotte, Galford, Genjuro heck, even Amakusa should've made it.

The only redeemable quality about her is her gameplay, but even that's stretching it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 27, 2022, 05:12:55 pm
None of them are samurai, actually.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on September 27, 2022, 05:32:31 pm
My only gripe with this team is... why Darli?
her bubbies won the selection process  :yaoming:  her outfit is really good too, and she has a fatality climax.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: KarmaCharmeleon on September 27, 2022, 07:35:48 pm
My only gripe with this team is... why Darli?
She is still top 3 in terms of playrate and got even got first on an online popularity poll from back when the game was fresh. For the people that do play SamSho she is really popular, for the people that don't play SamSho it's a nice way to introduce them to Darli and promote the game she comes from (the whole point of this team btw).
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on September 27, 2022, 08:07:51 pm
Now all we need is Team Metal Slug
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: no1wammy on September 28, 2022, 12:41:42 am
Now all we need is Team Metal Slug

I don't think we'll get a Metal Slug character in XV, even though I would heavily vouch for one; that's why we got the dedicated Metal Slug stage as a compromise. It would take a huge fan movement similar to #FREEMVC2 for SNK to reconsider.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on September 28, 2022, 01:12:36 am
(https://i.redd.it/sl9zsfg9dfq91.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 28, 2022, 03:19:44 am
What is DJ Station?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on September 28, 2022, 03:21:39 am
It is a mode in that you can change the BGM to the game. It has many BGMs from the KOF series even the ones from the NeoGeo Pocket.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: drewski90 on September 28, 2022, 05:18:35 am
how do i change the stage's music again? I can only do it for online stages, right?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 28, 2022, 06:31:03 am
Well, its certainly interesting that they're at least acknowledging the Maximum Impact games.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on September 30, 2022, 12:47:01 am
It is the first iteration of KOF in 3D. Even if it has its flaws it is still a fun game. I hope that means they could do a remaster of the Maximum Impact series with a rollback netcode.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on September 30, 2022, 07:53:32 pm
or even better: add Maximum Impact characters into KOF XV as DLC!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on October 03, 2022, 04:30:28 pm
Now all we need is Team Metal Slug

I don't think we'll get a Metal Slug character in XV, even though I would heavily vouch for one; that's why we got the dedicated Metal Slug stage as a compromise. It would take a huge fan movement similar to #FREEMVC2 for SNK to reconsider.

I 100% agree that it's unlikely but it would still be nice to have a team of say, Marco, Fio and Mars People or so. Over time KoF became more of its own thing and lost the appeal of being an SNK crossover game, so I'm really glad that we're at least finally getting team Samurai. I hope they become a mainstay.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Gate on October 04, 2022, 07:07:27 pm
And then they just threw away one of the threads set up on KoF XIV for a gag in the Samsho team ending to cap off the disappointment it was.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on October 16, 2022, 04:52:37 pm
Nobody's posted this here yet so...


XV talk has been sparse of late, surprisingly.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on October 20, 2022, 08:00:38 pm
I've read the shingo manga. We may get a very new shingo with references to what he did in the manga.

I'm betting his level 3 would be his blue flame or if he gets his critical mechanic back it'll spark blue.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: WF4123 on December 01, 2022, 09:54:06 pm
Damn... am I late for the party?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Segatron on December 24, 2022, 05:29:10 pm
I've read the shingo manga. We may get a very new shingo with references to what he did in the manga.

I'm betting his level 3 would be his blue flame or if he gets his critical mechanic back it'll spark blue.

I'd prefer if it were a quirky gimmick, like how Team Sacred Team has a minute and distinct differences in climax move against Team Orochi. You can have the same for Shingo but make it very rare.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on December 24, 2022, 10:46:09 pm
For those who still want the game, it's at 50% in PS Store (https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10000894/) and Steam (https://store.steampowered.com/app/1498570/THE_KING_OF_FIGHTERS_XV/), also 50% in Season Pack 1 and 25% for Season Pack 2
but it's still too expensive for me, sadly... I hope to finally get it further
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on January 04, 2023, 12:46:10 pm
Anyone remember if the release date for Shingo and balance patch have been announced?

I remember I saw Juanary 5 somewhere, but now I cant seem to find that info anywhere, and I refuse to think I was dreaming haha.

Im waiting the update to play again, because right now playing online is infested with Kula, Yashiro, Rock, Iori, Shermie and Gato, nearly every team you find has 1 of those or 3 of them, and I was expecting it to be this week but maybe Im wrong. ☹️

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Diek Stiekem on January 04, 2023, 01:52:12 pm
Don't forget about the curse of Krohnen
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on January 10, 2023, 02:53:14 am
 :)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on January 10, 2023, 03:10:14 am
SHINGO LOOKS AMAZING. LESGO.

SYLVIE AND NAJD. LESGO.



I wonder who the last two are? Last one reminds me a bit of Shion.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 10, 2023, 03:38:09 am
I'm glad they are continuing to use Najd.

Kinda bummed that this go round is just 6 characters but it is what it is.

I wonder who the last two are? Last one reminds me a bit of Shion.
There is speculation that the 5th character might be Kain R. Heinlein based on the long hair and suit.  Also the fact that it is a neat way to promote the upcoming Garou 2.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 10, 2023, 02:35:42 pm
so the balance path on january 17th 2023 and the crossplay in spring/summer 2023.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: RagingRowen on January 10, 2023, 04:01:57 pm
The DLC roadmap isn't that concerning tbh, but Najd returning was very wildcard to me.

I'm more concerned about what's happening with the balance changes and stuff.
Are characters gonna get new moves? Are we gonna get some surprise extra costumes? Are we gonna get a new stage or two?
It still feels like something's missing IAH.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 10, 2023, 04:48:46 pm
The DLC roadmap isn't that concerning tbh, but Najd returning was very wildcard to me.

I'm more concerned about what's happening with the balance changes and stuff.
Are characters gonna get new moves? Are we gonna get some surprise extra costumes? Are we gonna get a new stage or two?
It still feels like something's missing IAH.

I had the exact same reaction. ^^
Not much interest into this roadmap... (Still glad Kim's turn is comming)

New moves would be great, but if we consider the amount of work it will require, their choice will be quickly made...
Sadly.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on January 10, 2023, 05:03:23 pm
SHINGO LOOKS AMAZING. LESGO.

SYLVIE AND NAJD. LESGO.



I wonder who the last two are? Last one reminds me a bit of Shion.

Yeah thats definitely shion

The other guy i dunno he gives a freeman vibes
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on January 10, 2023, 07:07:07 pm
There is speculation that the 5th character might be Kain R. Heinlein based on the long hair and suit.  Also the fact that it is a neat way to promote the upcoming Garou 2.

For a split second I almost thought the 5th character could actually be Alba Meira... Then I quickly woke up and faced reality. It's most certainly Kain promoting his brand new game, yeah.

Last character looks like a girl in a school uniform-ish type of clothing, with the skirt and sleeves... So I guess, Hinako? Kisarah (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Kisarah_Westfield)? Athena but with some different moves?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 10, 2023, 09:09:29 pm
I would like snk implement new ways to open up the opponent's defense because jumping low kick, jumping low kick is not fun
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 11, 2023, 12:04:28 pm
For a split second I almost thought the 5th character could actually be Alba Meira... Then I quickly woke up and faced reality. It's most certainly Kain promoting his brand new game, yeah.

Last character looks like a girl in a school uniform-ish type of clothing, with the skirt and sleeves... So I guess, Hinako? Kisarah (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Kisarah_Westfield)? Athena but with some different moves?

I think there are very low chances to have KOF MI characters in this game...
Actually, the game is already full of "heroes" archetypes. But sure it would be interesting!!

What you said about the last character makes me think...
I would really like it to be Kisarah. But again, more chances it's a redesign of Hinako.
And even if ADK characters are a propriety of SNK, there is really low chances an "obscure" character like Kisarah join this game where many "popular" characters are still missing.

Crap... I'm hyping myself...
I will not stress myself too much because the wait will be long... One year... ^^;
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on January 11, 2023, 08:27:32 pm
There is speculation that the 5th character might be Kain R. Heinlein based on the long hair and suit.  Also the fact that it is a neat way to promote the upcoming Garou 2.

For a split second I almost thought the 5th character could actually be Alba Meira... Then I quickly woke up and faced reality. It's most certainly Kain promoting his brand new game, yeah.

Last character looks like a girl in a school uniform-ish type of clothing, with the skirt and sleeves... So I guess, Hinako? Kisarah (https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Kisarah_Westfield)? Athena but with some different moves?

Hinako wears a hat and basing on the sleeves it seems like a tight suit of some kind.

They'll probably play it safe and not add obscure characters. Specially now that its 1 character per dlc.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on January 12, 2023, 12:20:29 am
The first silhouette has got to be Duo Lon. If it's Kain, i don't mind. Not Oswald, he was a waste.

The second could be indeed Hinako or it could be Malin.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: k6666orochi on January 13, 2023, 03:44:33 am
Patch v1.62
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 13, 2023, 03:16:00 pm
Patch v1.62
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHHUrlnFwq4[/youtube]

new moves but the main mechanic still the same, crouched down low kick and jumping low kick, at least will get the crossplay in spring/summer
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: MAO11 on January 14, 2023, 03:52:27 am
The first silhouette has got to be Duo Lon. If it's Kain, i don't mind. Not Oswald, he was a waste.

The second could be indeed Hinako or it could be Malin.

Malin has an ahoge so probably not her.

Duo lon would be interesting. Though if he has that alpha-esque super he'll be a top tier character for sure.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: bubilovescars on January 14, 2023, 10:37:16 am
The first silhouette has got to be Duo Lon. If it's Kain, i don't mind. Not Oswald, he was a waste.

The second could be indeed Hinako or it could be Malin.

Malin has an ahoge so probably not her.

Duo lon would be interesting. Though if he has that alpha-esque super he'll be a top tier character for sure.

Makes sense, so scratch her. But why these two? Are their very special or really what they say of "shattered all expectations"?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on January 14, 2023, 02:09:42 pm
SNK always make fool of us with silhouettes looking like precise stuff.
BUT they always reveal that the shape was average (and missing important details) when they reveal the character.
It happened 99% of time.
My guess would be.
-It's possibly human
-It's possibly have such a shape
-It possibly have some extra details not displayed here. (such as Ahoge or anything else)

THe only thing you can trust is the average shape... like OK it's human shape. Looks like a guy/a girl.
Everything else is, they will make fool of you.
Than can take a risk to give acurate information so early.

THey prefer everybody to be "asking questions everywhere." ^^


The shape could definitely be Hinako, with a redesign (classic costume as a DLC)
Or she keep her costume, but the shape decide not to enphasise it to create a doubt.

Also, some characters can be new ones, perhaps...
They removed many newcomers from the previous game, they might have to replace some with "new blood"
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on January 14, 2023, 02:25:11 pm
Please stop the guessing, we know every silhouette is BAO.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Basara Lapis on January 15, 2023, 01:54:26 pm
It's pretty obvious who's the second silhouette :8):

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty


Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 15, 2023, 05:32:19 pm
You know... it would be funny if they included a real-life wrestler in the game. I mean, the mobile game got them, right? Imagine The Rock in KoF XV. Maybe that would encourage someone to make a good version of him for MUGEN too.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on January 16, 2023, 11:27:02 am
SNK doesn't have the money to do a collab like that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 16, 2023, 04:05:19 pm
I mean, they literally did it with the mobile game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 16, 2023, 04:18:25 pm
That was Netmarble who handled the contracts and even then, all they can get was their likeness and Micheal Cole doing all their intros.

Granted, if SNK were to somehow secure a deal for like one real-life persona, they can ask Netmarble to lend their models, and WWE has been upping their collab list in other games so a KOF add-on isn't too far off.

A lot has been saying The Undertaker feels like an actual KOF character so who knows.  He is the only possible choice if they want a pure WWE character that isn't a Hollywood star.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 17, 2023, 01:08:08 pm
I was thinking about the Garou teaser and the silhouette looks like him so will it be Kain R. Heinlein  :nuttrox:
(https://i.ibb.co/NNK0mhm/garou.png)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on January 17, 2023, 09:20:36 pm
Spoiler: Final Season 2 characters (click to see content)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on January 17, 2023, 09:58:58 pm
Spoiler: Final Season 2 characters (click to see content)

who is the 7th character? because there is an extra slot available.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Roman55 on January 18, 2023, 07:53:36 am
who is the 7th character? because there is an extra slot available.
New boss character is the rumor. Like what they did for Rugal.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Deadface on January 18, 2023, 09:41:52 am
Either a boss challenge, or the most realistic choice, playable Re Verse. (pls pls pls)
Speaking of realistic:

My money's on all six newcomers being edit units.
I mean come on, if there were any teams, they would've gathered up the silhouettes together, and they wouldn't release teams as independent characters. It is most likely six characters spread out across a whole year, let's not drag the game's tagline to the ground by having actual unrealistic expectations.
Apologize.  :ninja:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kolossoni on March 23, 2023, 03:12:49 am

Kim Trailer
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 23, 2023, 03:24:41 am
Gawd that trailer was sexy as sin. Love his new design. Love the pants. Love his moveset. Love his interactions with everyone. Love the pants. Love his damn climax. Love that the phoenix is back. Love the pants. Even the way this trailer was directed was basically perfect. Love his remixed theme. Love the pants.

Damn that was great. Jesus.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on March 23, 2023, 01:11:08 pm
Isn't this also the first time in a while that they've started using his full name again?

It's cool that as an addittional bonus his classic costume is included, but I wonder why they don't commit to making costumes dlcs a thing. Seems like a fun way to improve the scope of the game's content and bring in addittional funds along the way. They dipped their toes into it during the previous KoF but only weirdly specific characters got costumes.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on March 23, 2023, 02:17:11 pm
The hype about him wasn't satisfied at all
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: 087-B on March 23, 2023, 03:44:42 pm
Isn't this also the first time in a while that they've started using his full name again?

It's cool that as an addittional bonus his classic costume is included, but I wonder why they don't commit to making costumes dlcs a thing. Seems like a fun way to improve the scope of the game's content and bring in addittional funds along the way. They dipped their toes into it during the previous KoF but only weirdly specific characters got costumes.

I don't know why they don't do costumes much at all either. Especially considering they have so much potential for lots of costumes. I mean Athena alone could have an entire costume DLC bundle with all her prior designs.

After Shingo got his classic costume, I figured Kim would too. Not to mention I think this is a shoe-in for Sylvie getting her classic outfit as well.

Poor Najd, still stuck with her same design, but it's a good design as is at least. Hopefully she gets an alt costume that looks just as good.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on March 23, 2023, 06:02:34 pm
Kim's pants actually move! game is now 10/10
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on March 23, 2023, 06:03:55 pm
They actually brought back Kim's OG DM  :msurprised:

Poor Najd, still stuck with her same design, but it's a good design as is at least. Hopefully she gets an alt costume that looks just as good.
Unless SNK somehow reaches out to Najd's designer artist and have them remake her outfit, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on April 01, 2023, 12:53:26 pm
Oh, hi there



I hope this not to be an April Fools by SNK.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on April 01, 2023, 02:05:57 pm
If it were April Fools, Goenitz appears, 1 frame Kokodesuka everybody, doesn't elaborate, $8 only, shatter all eggs.

KOFXIII is returning to PS4 and Switch with overhauled rollback.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Momotaro on April 01, 2023, 02:56:56 pm
I hope it's not.
It would be a bad move !! Definitely!

I prefer when it's an opportinity to announce something!
Just like Fighting Ex Layer was! ^^


Also, I cannot remember, but did we had a leak of the characters for "Autumn" and "Winter" ?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on April 01, 2023, 03:05:26 pm
Oh, hi there

[youtube]https://youtu.be/-vOwTZbTFZ0[/youtube]

I hope this not to be an April Fools by SNK.
goenitz is alive, maybe he is just like the previous dlc omega rugal as omega rugal is also a free dlc character, but yeah, it is too coincidence to announce in april fool  :P they did the same during last year's april fool with goenitz and mars people as dlc :P from the garou trailer, sounds like it is gonna be billy?, kain and rock (from evo 2022) vs. terry, andy and joe :P i do hope to see joe's apprentice, kuan as a fighter, maybe we shall see
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on April 01, 2023, 03:46:09 pm
Goenitz is for free what a good deal.!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Byakko on April 01, 2023, 03:52:33 pm
The official one without random dudes shouting over it

Goenitz at the end.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Santtu on April 01, 2023, 07:11:28 pm
Too bad it's April Fools, I must conclude all of it is fake. :(
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Seadragon77 on April 01, 2023, 11:12:15 pm
I know it's April Fools Day and all... but this doesn't look fake to me.

Here's my take on everything here:
-Good to old Kim back in action. I wonder if he'll have some interactions with, say, Luong?
-Slyvie still looks weird as hell.
-SamSho 2019 getting roll back net code? Sweet.
-KoF XIII getting roll back net code? Even Sweeter.
-I wonder if the new Fatal Fury game is going to be called 'Fatal Fury' or 'Garou 2'.
-Goenitz? Alright, which one of you sadistic assclowns at SNK decided to bring him back?!? Because all I know that he will spam that stupid little tornado move all. Match. LONG.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on April 01, 2023, 11:22:54 pm
-Good to old Kim back in action. I wonder if he'll have some interactions with, say, Luong?

I remember watching Kim's trailer a few days back and I saw he did talk to Luong for a bit. It was at the end of the individual trailer but I can't say if it was in today's news video or not.

-Goenitz? Alright, which one of you sadistic assclowns at SNK decided to bring him back?!? Because all I know that he will spam that stupid little tornado move all. Match. LONG.

I feel like he's still going to be annoying but he's not going to have a lot of the strengths he had as a boss. There may be a bunch of people spamming the tornado when he comes out but somebody's gonna find a way to punish it. People expected Omega Rugal to be a crazy boss character too and all I ever heard about him since was that he was just a really slow mid-tier.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: lui on April 02, 2023, 07:20:33 am
EVO Japan was on when those trailers were released. It was just a coincedence that it happened to be April 1, all their announcements are real.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 09, 2023, 03:56:28 am
SYLVIE TRAILER!!!!

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on May 09, 2023, 05:02:24 am
her gameplay looks really cool but I hate the kame supers in this game because they dont look cool in this game.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on June 13, 2023, 04:00:42 am
Goenitz trailer

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: yaret on June 14, 2023, 12:45:05 am
it says: Cross-platform play for THE KING OF FIGHTERS XV goes live on June 20th.  :yuno:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 16, 2023, 12:15:01 pm
okay, but when's the Switch version, though?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on June 16, 2023, 08:31:33 pm
Don't count on it.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 17, 2023, 12:48:49 am
You never know, if MK1 can be on Switch, its not impossible for KoF XV eventually...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Darkflare on June 17, 2023, 10:19:09 am
SNK doesn't have the funds to optimize their game to work on an underpowered system.

NRS has that WB money to back them up. And even then, I would be surprised if the game doesn't look like crap, runs well and isn't some cloud edition.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: videoman on June 17, 2023, 11:56:09 am
SNK doesn't have the funds to optimize their game to work on an underpowered system.

NRS has that WB money to back them up. And even then, I would be surprised if the game doesn't look like crap, runs well and isn't some cloud edition.

If the rumors are true, if Nintendo plans a next-generation Switch, SNK might port it onto that console.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on June 17, 2023, 01:56:50 pm
They will and what you'll be getting is another Orochi Saga collection.

Good luck with that.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 24, 2023, 11:05:52 pm
Nah, Nintendo ain't gonna make a next-gen Switch, not in at least 5 or 7 years.

As long as Nintendo can still milk the current Switch, they have no need for a next-gen Switch.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on June 25, 2023, 11:54:13 am
A next version of the switch is most likely coming out in the next few years. It probably wont be a new console but mostly an updated more powerfull switch.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on July 18, 2023, 03:54:09 am


Yay, I guess?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 18, 2023, 04:39:49 am
She seems to have a new, unique mechanic where she absorbs power from the opponent, it appears as a symbol to the side of her power meter.

Also new stages finally!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on August 06, 2023, 12:42:20 am
Duo Lon confirmed!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on August 06, 2023, 04:47:45 am
Duo Linguo Lon
https://youtu.be/2yqDtKF5hrA?si=XNr2QN8mTR6v2AH5
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: NDSilva on August 21, 2023, 06:57:34 pm
I'm usually not the kind that beats a dead horse, but

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmlhLZOMwkE[/youtube]


Remember when SNK gave us a slight of hope in seeing perhaps one of the Metal Slug protagonists as a potential playable character in the game? (since none of them are present in the dedicated Metal Slug stage?)

At this point it really seems they just forgot to give enough fucks to that setup - so nowadays neither of them have a chance to show up on-screen at all. Tragic.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on September 05, 2023, 03:20:01 pm


Nice to see his stance is still... yeah.  :mlol:
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 05, 2023, 07:17:17 pm
Did they ever explain whats with his feet?
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GalFord on September 06, 2023, 05:10:40 pm
I don't think so... I mean, he stands upright in the cutscenes... it's just weird.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on October 09, 2023, 04:29:59 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7vxpBtaUAAO-ev?format=jpg&name=large)

Something is happening tomorrow (https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1711199805895291300)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on October 09, 2023, 11:42:26 am
Obviously, it's Bao!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: FeLo_Llop on October 09, 2023, 03:15:15 pm
It's Ricardo Milos!! The pose is exactly the same as him dancing, but seems he's now wearing a shirt xD!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Rabano on October 09, 2023, 06:39:33 pm
Finally

Franco Bash
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Creative Colossus on October 10, 2023, 02:29:46 am
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/fe36e12efeaad486fcc01614ad1bd4a7/tumblr_mpwi1jZ6Ga1qd9g7oo1_1280.pnj)

he's so back
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Kirishima on October 10, 2023, 02:42:28 am
Giving those headlights and the fact the fighter likes to dance judging from that pose, it is clearly LADY DUCK KING with the mohawk becoming a long luscious hair.

Who still dies to post-patch Khronen.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 10, 2023, 03:53:28 am
Hinako's triumphant return

Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on October 10, 2023, 03:57:57 am
You know, despite the whole idea of "archetype that is usually given to big manly men being given to a cute girl", I appreciate the fact that Hinako is the only sumo fighter in gaming that actually stands out and is not just... "big guy in a sumo outfit".
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on October 10, 2023, 04:07:26 am
I'm honestly surprised she kept not only the beret but also the old outfit in general after all this time. I thought they wouldve given her something new since they did that with CYS, ash, and some of the other characters who have had notable absences.

Do you think her dog is gonna show up at any point? He's huge (https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/snk/images/d/d4/Hinako-2001-2.jpg) and I honestly thought he was gonna show up somewhere in her trailer...
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: no1wammy on October 10, 2023, 05:38:04 am
With the Season 2 roster complete, we can only speculate if and when there will be a third season, and from which eras or franchises SNK may give love to as future DLCs.

I'm hoping against hope KOF gets fighters from franchises outside of KOF. Here's hoping to some Metal Slug, World Heroes, and The Last Blade.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: TrinitroRoy on October 10, 2023, 11:42:51 am
HELL YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: StevenB on October 12, 2023, 03:48:49 pm
With the Season 2 roster complete, we can only speculate if and when there will be a third season, and from which eras or franchises SNK may give love to as future DLCs.

I'm hoping against hope KOF gets fighters from franchises outside of KOF. Here's hoping to some Metal Slug, World Heroes, and The Last Blade.

I kinda feel like they might shift effort towards City of the Wolves, but I'd love for a more out-there Season 3 for KoF. This season in particular really brought a lot of fighters from the older titles in 3D, and I think they've really got the flow and aesthetic down by now.

Still holding out hope for a proper Metal Slug Team ever entering KoF. A crossover team between Samurai Showdown and Last Blade would also be amazing.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on October 12, 2023, 07:40:39 pm
I don't think they'll drop KoF for now, unless they turn CotW into just another KoF, which would be very boring. Like, if they're gonna call it Fatal Fury, they better bring mostly Fatal Fury chars and not just make a repeat of KoF. I know that many characters from KoF originated in that franchise, and I won't pretend that seeing the likes of Andy, Joe, Tung-Fu Rue, Duck King, Billy, Geese, Mai, Kim, Mary and Jenet would surprise me, but bring some obscure characters too, with cool redesigns and interesting movesets. Especially because since they're clearly pulling both models and animations from KoF (as seen with Terry and Rock), it's not like adding those guys would take as much effort as adding characters who did not show up for a long time.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on October 12, 2023, 07:50:12 pm
Maybe they won't drop KoF entirely but I really don't know what they'd do for a hypothetical season 3. Maybe there are a few characters missing from XIV and a lot of obscure fan favorites that kinda got left in the dust (Lin I guess) but I don't really know if doing the same plan of bringing back those kinds of characters would really bring anything new. Especially since most of the new original content is in the base game and hasn't really shown up as DLC (Remember when people were speculating that otoma raga would be a freebie boss character? me neither). It's probably just going to be balance changes and bug fixes from here on out, and because everyone loves Khrohnen Mc Doogal I'm sure he will remain an untouched tier 1 character for the rest of the game's lifespan. Maybe they'll fix the messed up matchmaking too. Who knows.

I do agree with not wanting City of the Wolves to be an asset dump but I'd rather share my sentiments on that thread instead of this one.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on October 15, 2023, 05:22:49 am
Im expecting most snk fighting games dev to focus on Garou. KOF might get another balance patch down the line, but I think that, characters wise, the game is pretty much done.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 15, 2023, 04:18:38 pm
Samurai Shodown got four season passes, the last one while KoF XV was well into development, there's no way in hell this game is done with just two seasons. Also SNK has gotten a lot more manpower now than they had during SamSho's development and a lot more money as well so they can definitely afford it.

As far as characters go, there's still quite a lot of highly requested chars that haven't made the cut yet (Kasumi, Jhun, Shen Woon, Krizalid for the boss challenge, a MI rep, a World Heroes rep, etc) so there's more than enough they can pull from.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Rabano on October 15, 2023, 04:26:05 pm
Since this is the "everyone is back" KOF, I wish Season 3 will have a ton of surprises, not only characters that weren't in a KOF for a long time, like Eiji or Kasumi, but characters that weren't in a KOF game, like Jaenne D' Arc or Marco Rodrigez

And part of me want Alba Meira to come back.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on October 15, 2023, 05:13:42 pm
The DLC wouldn't only be just the "fan favorites" that they're missing, or at least I wouldn't think it'd be that. A decent amount of the past DLC was recycled from... something, Team South Town was just a bunch of characters from XIV that werent in the base game, of course people made a big stink over the orochi versions of CYS, 3/5ths of season 2 were also XIV vets, Rock and Nakoruru are standout recycled content compared to other members in their teams who were actually new. It's been a pretty common theme for KoF especially since the DLC isnt Smash huge or whatever and the older games were full of recycling and regurgitating.

I get that there are a lot of fan favorite characters who havent appeared in a while but at the same time it gets really tiring hyping them up because they've been in games before and arent exactly "new" content. Kasumi is reasonable, Shen is... okay I guess since duo lon and elizabeth are also there, boss syndrome shit is just really tiring because all of the characters with that special treatment wind up becoming mid tier at best and their boss versions are really just yuotube content fodder. World Heroes and Maximum Impact content wouldnt fit with the kind of style SNK is going for now. I don't hate MI but I don't really understand why so many people hype it up, especially since it was just a small line of spinoff games and wasn't actually canon to the main games.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: teddylam on October 15, 2023, 06:15:25 pm
I hope SNK makes Vice, Mature and Orochi as new Boss challenge. A special Guest like Heihachi Mishima would be cool as he is dead in Teken 7 and Geese was in that game too. And perhaps Kensou and Chen so we have the original China's Team.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on October 15, 2023, 06:57:43 pm
The DLC wouldn't only be just the "fan favorites" that they're missing, or at least I wouldn't think it'd be that. A decent amount of the past DLC was recycled from... something, Team South Town was just a bunch of characters from XIV that werent in the base game, of course people made a big stink over the orochi versions of CYS, 3/5ths of season 2 were also XIV vets, Rock and Nakoruru are standout recycled content compared to other members in their teams who were actually new. It's been a pretty common theme for KoF especially since the DLC isnt Smash huge or whatever and the older games were full of recycling and regurgitating.

I get that there are a lot of fan favorite characters who havent appeared in a while but at the same time it gets really tiring hyping them up because they've been in games before and arent exactly "new" content. Kasumi is reasonable, Shen is... okay I guess since duo lon and elizabeth are also there, boss syndrome shit is just really tiring because all of the characters with that special treatment wind up becoming mid tier at best and their boss versions are really just yuotube content fodder. World Heroes and Maximum Impact content wouldnt fit with the kind of style SNK is going for now. I don't hate MI but I don't really understand why so many people hype it up, especially since it was just a small line of spinoff games and wasn't actually canon to the main games.

Every character has its fans. People like them, people want them. It's that simple. And with SNK opening the floodgates for characters from different universes showing up I don't see how they wouldn't fit. Heck, Samurai Shodown and World Heroes characters were supposed to join KoF as back as 95, so there's that too.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: oraora? on November 02, 2023, 05:30:17 pm
unsure if season 3, they are gonne be releasing dlc as team again? if so, I want my team cute from kof98 :P chin helping kim to look over these two fat and skinny clowns, that's their story participation, and maybe kensou, bao and momoko might form new psycho soldier team? then we are gonna have kim, chang and choi, athena, kensou and chin's special ending artwork, it does make sense to me
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on November 07, 2023, 02:54:07 am
Hinako trailer



Me likes
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: SquidlyPoli1 on November 11, 2023, 08:19:57 am
I didn't initially get the chance to watch Hinako's trailer until now because I was busy with college work when it came out (and still am). She seems like she still has the same stuff from 2002UM and all of those other games, but now she has this megaton press thing which looks funny, and of course the climax which I thought was personally a bit underwhelming. Funny interactions too but not everyone really cares about those.

Every character has its fans. People like them, people want them. It's that simple. And with SNK opening the floodgates for characters from different universes showing up I don't see how they wouldn't fit. Heck, Samurai Shodown and World Heroes characters were supposed to join KoF as back as 95, so there's that too.

Fair enough. I knew about the SamSho team initially being a thing in '95 (the one now is almost identical only with Darli from the new game instead of Galford) but I never heard anything about a World Heroes team.

I still can't say I'd be a fan of every pick people think of for this game. As I stated in my other post I'm really tired of the boss syndrome crap (even with Goenitz getting serviceable rep at East Coast Throwdown back in October) and I can't think of much who'd be missing from XIV that would be easy to implement while appealing at the same time. Crossing that off the list gets you all the boring one-off characters which would require more effort and wouldn't really offer a lot that KoF hasn't done before in either the 2D or 3D spaces. I can't say I'm a fan of MI characters joining and I really don't think SNK would be able to go ham with guest characters outside of other SNK franchises because they don't really have enough money for it (just like how Game Freak is a "small indie company" only SNK actually puts effort into their most successful franchise)
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Magma MK-II on November 11, 2023, 06:02:18 pm
Character breakdown



I still can't say I'd be a fan of every pick people think of for this game. As I stated in my other post I'm really tired of the boss syndrome crap (even with Goenitz getting serviceable rep at East Coast Throwdown back in October) and I can't think of much who'd be missing from XIV that would be easy to implement while appealing at the same time. Crossing that off the list gets you all the boring one-off characters which would require more effort and wouldn't really offer a lot that KoF hasn't done before in either the 2D or 3D spaces. I can't say I'm a fan of MI characters joining and I really don't think SNK would be able to go ham with guest characters outside of other SNK franchises because they don't really have enough money for it (just like how Game Freak is a "small indie company" only SNK actually puts effort into their most successful franchise)

I'm not a fan of all picks either, especially people who keep asking for Orochi, Vic/Mature and Daimon (nothing against them but those were all confirmed to not making into this game for story reasons from day one). As far as non-SNK guests go I personally would prefer some more obscure picks, like a character from Fighters History or Power Instinct, which are also not that hard to license.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: Macaulyn97 on November 12, 2023, 06:58:02 pm
Honestly, if you ask me their whole "shatter all expectations" thing has been a complete failure. The roster isn't terrible, but there is nothing that special about it either.
Title: Re: KoF XV
Post by: GTOAkira on January 26, 2024, 04:13:22 am
New mechanic dropping at the end of the month called Advance Strike.