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Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 May 18, 2021, 12:39:28 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
 Board: Entertainment

Oh, ok, you meant going in.  Then yeah, that I agree.  During the match it was fairly obvious by their calculations if nothing else Iron Fist wasn't going to destroy a planet like that meteor, if nothing else.  Going in I figured neither of them were going to be that fantastic considering my limited exposure to them.

I'm wondering what approach they'll take for next episode's animation?  Steven technically has sprites....but it's Save the Light which has his old series design though, and Unleash the Light has 3D models in that weird super deformed style on a 2.5D plane.  I don't think Star even have video games to pull from?  Or anything extensive fan made.  They could do the whole animation like Jack versus Afro, this would be the most likely episode to do it with considering the combatants.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 May 17, 2021, 09:55:47 PM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
 Board: Entertainment

Who knew that not doing mismatches for the sake of the matchup made for a much more time entertaining death battle? (spoiler: everybody. We all knew).
Huh?  But....the episode literally laid out why one side could never win.  The other not only negated all possible forms of damage, but ignores death.  Fairly one-sided as it gets.

Anyways, cute episode.  Not a moniker Death Battle episodes usually get applied to them, but this one felt a lot more like the Danny Phantom/Jake Long episode.  They even threw puns into the math calcs for some reason.

Next is interesting to me.  Because while I've followed Steven Universe since practically day one and beyond with Tartakovsky's involvement, Star Butterfly I simply have not touched or experienced outside apparently its ending was akin to Game of Thrones' ending bad?  So my input on what she can do is simply hearsay.  What I know is that she's generally not that impressive in combat, her trick is she has one reality warping universe-ending spell that theoretically would beat the whole SU universe.  The problem is it's a ridiclously lengthy spell, minutes to half-hour to an hour from different sources, requiring full concentration and no interference.  So unless the timescale is way off or she can hide in a pocket dimension or hang out in space or somewhere "Out of bounds", this spell is a non-factor, it'll never get cast.

Steven on the other hand tore up a mountain range, alters his body to an adult age to better fight and survived a black hole as recent as the Unleash the Light game.  The last one however is probably an outlier because the entire cast survives this black hole, via gem ship.  But on the other hand, he can tear apart ships of similar durability.

Don't remember much that'll help from the comics....in fact they probably go against much of the show's canon, which Rebecca Sugar had to make a whole point one time on her layers of canon and where the show comes first, if the comic counteracts something it should be ignored.  Like the main Crystal Gems just all flying through space breathing just fine.

Though counter-point....

The show has a similar problem as Saiyans in space; they both can and can't survive the vacuum of space depending on what the story demands.  Apparently the bubbles both make air and don't similarly depending on the episode's issue at the time.

Personally, I think the oddball stat calc that will matter on Steven's end is comparing to Lapis Lazuli.  Because she kinda broke the show's power levels and over the years they brushed it under the rug.  Because she flies between galaxies in a day or two, and gems can't physically go beyond light speed.  So if they give Steven similar speeds then, well, speed blitz, Star's not gonna do a thing.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 May 13, 2021, 12:06:45 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
 Board: Entertainment

Huh.  Saw the first one quite some time ago and never saw anything beyond it, so seeing he straight-up has the Vulcan Nerve Pinch is weird.

I wonder if they'll have to measure the energy dispersal fat has on the body, if that's the basis of his defense and he seems to work on a "Defense is the best offence" style of combat?  He sounds like Marvel's The Blob, frankly.
    

Re: Everything Anime and Manga Thread

 May 11, 2021, 02:09:44 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Everything Anime and Manga Thread (Started by ( ゚ o゚) It's Urza! August 27, 2007, 02:30:58 AM
 Board: Entertainment

I was mulling it over for a bit today, so this is one of those "out there" less likely approaches, but I was considering the mystery character we should be expecting could be Raditz.  Seeing he got a note of recognition last movie and yeah, he has a sizable fanbase begging for his return to make use of his great story potential, being Goku's brother and all killed off WAY too early for anything of note beyond kickstarting the Z series.

But then it occurred to me that one doesn't necessarily negate the other.  If Janemba was being reworked, they'd probably keep his general origin idea intact, being born of all the sins of the universe, but they don't really need the nobody teenager demon that plays music on his headphones too loud.  Raditz is couped up in Hell, and we know Z and Super already altered how Hell's rules worked in Dragon Ball over time.  Used to be souls of negligible universal consequence lost their bodies and were reduced to....like, soul clouds that make up Heaven or whatever.  But then we got DBZ having all the villains keeping their bodies supposedly for eternal torment, and on top of that Super retconed Frieza's punishment from DBZ's to being tied up in that tree forever.  If we're keeping petty Raditz after his death and subsequent betrayal by Vegeta....could see him being the new focus.

Like I said, out there reasoning.  Just an idea I've been mulling about.  Janemba was also a creature of happenstance and chaos, to throw a revenge-driven Raditz would rather drastically alter his drive of reasoning.  Also by that hypothetical logic, it could be anyone with an Anti-Goku agenda in Hell other than Raditz.  But, it being Raditz WOULD drive home the often neglected consequences Goku needs to take for his brash decisions endangering the universe, it being administered by a family member would be karmic retribution.  With payoff in that Goku's last handling of Raditz would have been the opposite, good karma which played part into why he got to keep his body in Heaven to begin with.

But then Janemba would also probably need to keep being killed off by Gogeta which makes that whole story angle a flop so EHHH.  Just spitballing an idea.
    

Re: Everything Anime and Manga Thread

 May 10, 2021, 02:26:15 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Everything Anime and Manga Thread (Started by ( ゚ o゚) It's Urza! August 27, 2007, 02:30:58 AM
 Board: Entertainment

Janemba?  That'd be....odd.  Janemba manages to be among the few popular characters with less character development than DBZ Broly himself.  He would require an even bigger reworking than Broly's canonization, and the film would feel naked without Pikkon being in there as well.  Which would also require a whole phase of introduction and character bonding prior to Janemba's role in the movie because you wouldn't have the DBZ anime canon to suffice as background detail any more.

I guess Janemba would be ok if that's what they're going for, he IS cool design, power and lore-wise, but he's gonna take more effort to get him to work than Broly did if they want him to be expanded into anything further than a Kid Buu mirror image as a character.
    

Re: Everything Anime and Manga Thread

 May 09, 2021, 04:28:14 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Everything Anime and Manga Thread (Started by ( ゚ o゚) It's Urza! August 27, 2007, 02:30:58 AM
 Board: Entertainment

    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 May 07, 2021, 01:28:41 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
 Board: Entertainment

That's an oversimplification I'm not too fond of though.  That's, like.....Harry Potter versus Superman.  Does Harry have an inordinate amount of spells and tricks and cantrips more than Superman does?  Yes.  Does he have such a trick that provides the means of killing Superman?  Sure does.

Does that prevent Supes' exceedingly more direct "Punch you in the jaw fast and hard enough until you atomize out of existence" from being the more likely outcome?

I'm still left to believe in this last episode's case Mikasa is much stronger and faster, questioning things left out on her end and embellished on Blake's end, and in her direct approach that her issue would have been the opponent's magic nonsense.  Add on the apparent impossible level of experience and knowledge then....yeah.

But it's whatever at this point.

It occurs to me after writing all that down I was just describing speedblitzing.  So yeah, that's the issue that comes to mind.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 May 07, 2021, 12:07:52 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
 Board: Entertainment

Blake vs Mikasa was actually animated pretty nicely. No shock that they once again let their franchise IP win.
We're just going to pretend Weiss vs Mitsuru never happened.
While I'm inclined to think there's SOME sort of IP favoritism and/or willful ignorance screwage going on with Yang vs Tifa, I don't think off the bat they were outright doing this last episode just to promote RWBY winning. (Though as I say that Facebook gives me an ad from Rooster Teeth to come see RWBY in the latest Death Battle so eh....)  I contest it with the facts given, but I also don't want to know any more on RWBY than I already do and haven't finished AoT so I'm not going to be all up in arms about it.

Weiss and Mitsuru however does still feel like a bizarre pity win made explicitly in response to Yang vs Tifa.  It wasn't even a fight, it was a zero percent chance possibility of Weiss winning because they had a much more niche opponent who was Weiss times 2 with full immunity to everything they did.  Even then though it was oddly soft on Weiss' death, compared to....well, just about ever single other 3D animated episode.   I mean, did you see the latest episode's complete disservice to Mikasa?

I'm not going to pretend they have some stupid grand conspiracy or something, but their RWBY episodes are always, I dunno, off to some degree.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 May 03, 2021, 09:20:58 PM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
 Board: Entertainment

I mean hell, you joke, I'd be fine if they actually got it somewhat better than the last two.  No one who actually likes either of the two should reach the end finding that's accurate for either of them.  Certainly no one should be believing Superman is equivalent to all universes ever or that you'd need an endless spirit bomb to best him.  If they do better and Supes still wins, sure, fine, whatever.  Those last two just.....were not good representations of either of them.  From information given to presentation to the actual fights to them breaking their own rules.  The second one was especially annoying jumping the gun on Super Saiyan God and Blue in that we don't know what they are, but we'll just assume it's not stronger than Goku before.  I mean, they based Blue's strength off a joke answer, come on.

And I wasn't looking into other forums, but yes, my bad in that case, I meant specifically with the DB cast's discussions of what they get asked to do, not just anyone's random "Who Would Win?" thread.  I've never heard of it in their podcasts I think ever?  Maybe in one of their cases of throwing the question to the audience at the end of their podcasts that they pull out of a random Twitch feed.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 May 03, 2021, 08:13:06 PM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
 Board: Entertainment


Meh.

Nice they included the train track thing in the list but then didn't actually include it.  I'm filing this one under "Nah, mate".  Dropping the whole multi-generational experience thing due to maybe some tanks in RWBY are more durable than regular Titans, don't buy it.  Especially having being outsmarted being her downfall.  That transforming sword should have broken multiple times in the fight before Mikasa lost all hers.

Next is....Po.  From Kung Fu Panda.  Versus Marvel's Iron Fist.

I really don't get their season theming this year.  I get this upcoming match-up and all, it's not that, but they wanted this 10 year anniversary to be all full of large, impactful match-ups largely involved and related to this series and team as a whole.  I can't recall anyone asking for Po versus Iron Fist seriously.  Did Torrian, their old animator, move on to work with Dreamworks or something?  I don't recall them ever being big Iron Fist fans, were caught up in kicking the Netflix show while it was down like the rest of the internet.

It's not a terrible match-up, I'm just dumbfounded how this relates as important to Death Battle as a whole.  I'm left to guess it's just one of the team's dream matches that hasn't been brought up.
    

Re: gaming news that don't deserve their own thread

 May 03, 2021, 04:48:49 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in gaming news that don't deserve their own thread (Started by Titiln October 30, 2011, 05:13:58 PM
 Board: Gaming

Oh, you did answer it.  Well....that's a weird roundabout way of getting around things I guess.  Doesn't quite explain them not going mental at seeing something actual flesh and blood that's sentient, but whatever, say they lost that part of their programming over the ages I guess.  Probably would be too much of a cop out ending if they did that, self-destruct and blow away the whole mountain range.  Still need a game to actually play.

The Bunker is such a weird choice to go for, though?  It's 99% the safe town part of the game until a certain part.  Surprised they didn't go with the Amusement Park.  Shows up a lot in each playthrough.  Its got the best OST after all. (Not counting "The Weight of the World", of course)  Oh well.  Having that might challenge FF's age rating, given the likely enemies they would have if they were pulling from Automata.
    

Re: gaming news that don't deserve their own thread

 May 02, 2021, 11:14:59 PM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in gaming news that don't deserve their own thread (Started by Titiln October 30, 2011, 05:13:58 PM
 Board: Gaming

You must be referring to the YoRHa:  Dark Apocalypse quest in Final Fantasy XIV.  It's an optional storyline and a series of 24-player raids based off of Nier: Automata.  All the new bosses and areas are modeled after ones found in Automata; in one of them you can even find 2B's bedroom.  Nothing super-earth shattering in terms of story;  A standard issue "rift between dimensions" dumps a boatload of buildings, tech, and other junk from the NieR universe into the FFXIV universe.  An android named 2P creates an army of replicas of herself to conquer/destroy Eorzea because of reasons, and 2B and 9S show up and join forces with the Warriors of Light to stop her. 

As far as NieR lore goes you get a pretty hefty dump of it shoehorned in via random notes to collect.  I will say that when I started playing through that questline I knew literally nothing about NieR or it's lore, and by the time I finished it I felt like I knew significantly less.
See, if I hadn't burnt myself out on MMOs by Everquest and quazi-Diablo II if you want to count its online Hardcore mode, this would be hook enough for me to play just to explore this.  But I have had just absolutely zero desire to play any MMO for years upon years.  More monthly payments don't help sway my decision either.  Much rather buy a game and be done with it.

....Also what the hell kind of raid takes place 2B's small shuttle bedroom?  That sterile cot fit for military service has standing room for about 2-4 people in it.  What, is it some elaborate 9S hacking boss taking place on the Web?  How do the FF cast even get to the space station?  And any sort of battle results in the whole station blowing up, there's multiple scenarios that have just that happen in Automata.  Even a joke one when you self-destruct on it, killing everyone.

Not that I'm asking you to answer all that, just....weird to consider they even tried to explain the crossover's possibilities and outcome since by very nature of it happening the YoRHa machines would be losing their minds and/or killing themselves.
    

Re: gaming news that don't deserve their own thread

 May 02, 2021, 05:13:56 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in gaming news that don't deserve their own thread (Started by Titiln October 30, 2011, 05:13:58 PM
 Board: Gaming

Huh.  Missed opportunity to go ham with the ad using the water distortion effects of every character's inhuman amounts of sweat from SFxT's ads and cinematics.  SFxT might not have been amazing, but it sure left a mental image of some absurdly cool trailers and bizarre effects.

Of the games that had installed the last crossovers I saw are for a final fantasy game with the collaboration of nier automata
I've actually been curious what the hell this is.  Since getting into Nier heavily and Automata temporarily taking over my life, I'm vaguely aware of the dark skinned color swap Not-2B that's loosely canonical to Automata actual but only appears in this FF crossover and Soul Calibur as just a skin and plays some role in FF's story.  I'm assuming it's akin to the Assassin's Creed one, an off-shoot non-canon thing that if you stretch your imagination it can barely make sense.  I'm also assuming its nothing monumental, I can't imagine it actually making sense since FF has, you know, non-androids that'd mind crush any Automata character meeting them.
    

Re: gaming news that don't deserve their own thread

 May 02, 2021, 03:54:20 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in gaming news that don't deserve their own thread (Started by Titiln October 30, 2011, 05:13:58 PM
 Board: Gaming

...A fragrance line?  I recall it being weird when FFXIII was demoing some French purses and clothing line, but what's this?  Aroma of Blanka sweat?

Because that'd just be the little Blanka Ono carried around with him.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 April 28, 2021, 11:44:42 PM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
 Board: Entertainment

The comments on that one claim somewhat recently Mikasa apparently can just carry some full sets of steel train tracks around effortlessly.  That's....very superhuman of her.  Like, I assume she would be just by nature of animated content and the nature of AoT's foes, but that's beyond Captain America levels, possibly?  I was vaguely aware some point after the first arc she became prime example muscle girl but I didn't think they made a stat jump that large as well.  Like, that's probably implying she can lift and toss a Titan off its balance at ground level without her special gear.

I'm gonna assume this is a one-off oversight like the Pokemon anime's occasional occurrences in its decades long run with Ash carrying the 2200 lbs Cosmoem effortlessly or ripping a tree out of the ground and tossing it for no good reason other than cartoonish comedy.
    

Re: fighting games news that dont deserve their own thread

 April 28, 2021, 03:54:18 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in fighting games news that dont deserve their own thread (Started by Niitris May 08, 2014, 11:34:32 PM
 Board: Fighting Games

Not one-for-one, I'm sure it isn't a competent game given its marketplace, but didn't Disney go out of their way to make a strictly Disney content-only fighting game?  With Mickey and Peter Pan and Maleficent and whatnot?  Think it was on Google Play for tablets, never touched it or really looked into it other than seeing it announced.

Also they team up with Square Enix for god's sake for one of their biggest contributions with Kingdom Hearts,, who has prior been overjoyed at promoting their Tomb Raider gore porn and to please look at how much detail was put into our custom death animations over jutting a wodden spike through Lara's trachea.  Or just the other M rated titles they tout, even Final Fantasy.

I mean, I get what you're saying but it's not exactly a new challenge.  If this hypothetical Ed Boon Marvel project ends up being, say, a game adaptation of Marvel Zombies, then yeah, that's probably gonna get shot down at the idea pitch phase.  An Marvel fighting game handled just like they did with D.C. though?  I can only imagine it being considered better than the alternative in Disney's eyes if they do want to stay in the video game market than staying hitched to Capcom after MvCI.  Which of course is a shame to MvC but....that's business.
    

Re: Random Topic V10

 April 27, 2021, 02:59:45 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Random Topic V10 (Started by Orochi Gill July 09, 2016, 05:00:44 AM
 Board: All That's Left

Sounds like the next logical trolling step to take would be to point out to him how diseased and overall poisonous the rainforest is.

Already beaten to the point but just reiterating that chess analogy was really stupid.  It is literally the opposite of the world-wide known saying of "Staying 2 steps ahead of your opponent".

Maybe he's just from Bizarro's dimension.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 April 27, 2021, 02:54:34 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
 Board: Entertainment

I don't wish to harp on it too much, it's just the show's style, but that 3D animation that RWBY's got going is just so unappealing.  Their bird example was like watching an Ico cutscene still in development.

Pretty much all new information to me, down to apparently she's a catgirl.  If that weapon transforms and separates into so many smaller pieces, my gut says logically it must shatter super-easy by its connections.  But then anime so it probably doesn't, eh?  Something something Dust superpowers increase durability to beyond titanium levels while remaining lightweight.  The aura breaking at the comparatively non-lethal encounter around the 2 minute mark makes me assume its actual usage varies over the show.  But then I'm also left to compare to similar level Yang's episode where she can withstand Tifa's continental-destroying Limit Break....but that's also one of their top debatably wrong episodes in DB's whole series so hard to use it as sound evidence.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 April 22, 2021, 04:01:47 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
 Board: Entertainment

Not so much for future confirmation discussion, rather just stumbled upon Brandon Yates, one of the guys who does Death Battle's music tracks, YouTube page for Death Battle songs I guess they shot down after forgetting he has such a channel.  It's a shame because there's some they must have considered that I hadn't thought of before that would make rather interesting episodes.

https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBrandonMYates/featured

I wonder what goes on behind the scenes that makes them choose not to go ahead with episodes on new franchises of interest, sometimes?  I can understand something being too niche like if they wanted, say, Angel Cop or Bubblegum Crisis or even Battle Angel Alita versus something (Alita would probably scoot by after the Hollywood adaptation, would be a good match-up with Samus Aran thinking on it on numerous connections albeit not the obvious cyberpunk one), but then they got Evangelion's Asuka versus Darling in the Franx's Zero Two concept music.  I haven't even watched probably more than a minute of the latter but I know its essentially Eva's spiritual successor and fairly popular.  And Evangelion's not showing up yet is mildly surprising.  Granted, it took them nearly 10 years to get to a singular Sailor Moon episode they mulled over for 5.

That said some of his choices are weird.  Some obvious joke matches but considering DB did Chuck Norris vs Segata Sanchiro previously, not completely out of place.  Undyne versus Bandana Waddle Dee though?  Undyne is clearly best paired with Steven Universe's Pearl, and she's better off with Revolutionary Girl Utena.  Isn't Waddle Dee Kirby's size also, like, an inch tall?

Actually, now that I look further into it...


So hey, they're not even all shot down examples.
    

Re: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)

 April 20, 2021, 04:48:09 AM View in topic context
 Posted by Long John Killer  in Death Battle (And sprite fight animations) (Started by Long John Killer April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
 Board: Entertainment

Asked about it myself because of my RWBY ignorance.  Apparently they're both Spider-Man knock-offs in the traversal department.  Which explains DB's previous mini-sode with Mikasa and Spider-Man.

From what I've heard Blake has RWBY magic and tricks and straight-up stolen Naruto technique of shadow and lightning clones (Not TOO surprising, seeing Yang just outright uses Halo 3 assets) but stats don't compare to AoT's universe of characters or even her Titan slaying gear so Mikasa's probably just gonna power on through and steamroll despite the much more straight-forward approach and lack of flashy magic or techniques.  Having only read what I guess comprises the first arc with the Female Titan and seeing the main RWBY team's high-end feats with Weiss in her episode, that seems believable I guess.