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Re: Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~

 August 07, 2023, 01:21:52 am View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~ (Started by Xenomic August 01, 2023, 04:12:19 am
 Board: Graphics
True, true. I forgot all about these sprites, honestly lol. Though I've always been semi-awful at smaller sprites lol. Though I should check those two games, don't think I ever have. Only checked Guilty Gear mostly for hi-res sprites. MAYBE Blazblue?? I don't remember, but back then, don't think I did.

The last sprite I made 10 years ago was this one:



Which was a bit of an amalgamation of +R May (for height and other things) & Millia (for shading), and Shannon from Ougon Musou Kyouku (for the arms and legs). I don't remember how I handled the rest of this anymore, but that was the last thing I ever did, out of whim too for...some reason or another lol. Still Guilty Gear-esque, but that was about the best of my spriting capabilities back then.

If you can help with the posing, that would really REALLY help speed things along.
    

Re: Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~

 August 07, 2023, 12:55:41 am View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~ (Started by Xenomic August 01, 2023, 04:12:19 am
 Board: Graphics
I could probably go with Blazblue instead for the resolution and sprite size?? And it'd still look nice as pixel art, right? That's still sprites, right?

Though finding a pose from there that'd be as close to Menat's might be tricky for me, I don't know the characters at all to know which one would be the best to work with like Jam was. Finding a pose that was roughly the same stance (it's not the same as Menat's, I know but it's the closest) with the arm slightly out (which I think one of Jam's supers would've been good for that, but I don't have access to Xrd models lol) was hard lol. But yeah, if the Xrd resolution would be TOO bad, then probably go with Blazblue if that's still sprites. Can still look nice and still get the good details, yes?
    

Re: Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~

 August 06, 2023, 11:07:02 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~ (Started by Xenomic August 01, 2023, 04:12:19 am
 Board: Graphics
I am doing all of this in Paint, mind you, so I don't have layers to work with ^^;; I do have GIMP, but I haven't really ever worked in that. The re-trace idea does sound like it'd be a good idea, though I'm not sure how I would do that very well.

EDIT - Again, I'm willing to pay for anyone to do the base, if it'll help things along smoother. Sure, it's a bit of coping out, but well...ya know...^^;
    

Re: Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~

 August 06, 2023, 12:21:31 am View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~ (Started by Xenomic August 01, 2023, 04:12:19 am
 Board: Graphics
Ok, yeah...I feel like maybe I'm trying to do something that's too much out of my league, despite how much I want to really do it heartfeltly. Can I perchance ask for assistance in this by anyone willing to do so?
    

Re: Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~

 August 04, 2023, 02:09:46 am View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~ (Started by Xenomic August 01, 2023, 04:12:19 am
 Board: Graphics
AlexSin said, August 03, 2023, 09:01:29 pm
Unless you're really, really good at editing a picture of a 3D model with simply pixels added on top, I suggest you to:
(this is my opinion)
1- retrace the 3D model completely and while doing that you make it look like the character you're intent on showing;
2- or you could use the "small" sprite you had, rescale it (if you wanted it to make it bigger) and do what I said on point 1.

As it is now, I don't think it'll end up well. I mean, for consistency sake.
It looks 2D, but it isn't 2D, it's still a 3D model. The parts you're going to add on are going to look different from other parts of the sprites you didn't touch (unless, again, you're a monster at editing 3D model pictures)

And wait, weren't you supposed to use the Menat pose instead of the Jam idle? You said you would use the first, then the second/third one: which is it, the first, the second, both?

I'm using the Jam idle as a reference base, and from there, going to try to edit it moreso into the Menat pose. I just needed someone that was about the right height (5'4" Jam is, which is one inch taller than what I'd like to go with) and somewhat the right pose, and would go from there. Does that make sense?

Yeah, I'm aware that because I'm doing 2D on top of 3D, the parts that are 2D won't look well due to the 3D parts. I'm assuming this is in relation to the face vs. the hair and eyes, yes? Unless I can figure out how to edit the face to match more 2D-esque (actually....are Blazblue sprites "sprites" or models?? If so, maybe I can borrow colors from there to fix up the face or whatnot??).

...Maybe this idea wasn't sound at all, huh?? Hmm....as mentioned, if I have to, I'll pay for help on this (though also mentioned I would like to do most of the work myself, if possible). That is, if anyone is willing to help an old man with a silly little gift idea for a VTuber.
    

Re: Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~

 August 01, 2023, 08:41:10 am View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~ (Started by Xenomic August 01, 2023, 04:12:19 am
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I'm so ashamed that I forgot that I flipped the image I was using as reference for this, so the eye-covering part is on the wrong eye, ahhhh!!! This is a very rough draft, 2 1/2 hours of trying to figure out things and whatnot. It's very shoddy looking, but it usually is on the start, yes? Don't worry, it's not going to be a complete sprite replacement, it's using this as a base for now before I go and try to figure out how to change the pose to fit more with Menat's pose. If that's possible anywho.

So uh...would anyone be willing to help me with fixing that, by any chance? The second and third image here in the gallery is what I was using (the 3rd mostly for the hair, but I flipped it and forgot all about what I was doing an AHHHHHH!!!)

https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Ceres_Fauna/Gallery

I GUESS I could leave it as it is, but then I'll feel self-conscious about it being on the wrong side when I give it as a gift hue. So really, the main thing is just changing the side the braid is on, and just fixing the hair-covering piece before I move on. Do I also need to readjust how the hair flows to the opposite way than the way I have it (i.e. the ends facing to the right rather than to the left)???


EDIT - Found a good reference to use, if anyone wants to try to fix it before I get to it next time!

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty


EDIT #2 - Tried to fix it up, how's this look?

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
    

Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~

 August 01, 2023, 04:12:19 am View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Starting Anew. New spriting project in progress! Help appreciated~ (Started by Xenomic August 01, 2023, 04:12:19 am
 Board: Graphics
Wow...it's been a very long time since I've done something like this, hasn't it? Howdy, hi! How's everyone?!

So! After falling into a certain rabbit hole, been in a very VERY good mood, and because of this, been kinda been wanting to do a little something to show my appreciation for all the good vibes and positivity that's been making me feel so good lately! So!! Been thinking of trying to do a little gift of my own, in the form of pixel art!

HOWEVER, and this is a big one, I haven't done spriting in yeeeeears, and I don't consider myself a super great spriter to begin with. I would LIKE to do most of the work myself, but some help here and there would be much appreciated, if anyone is willing to help me out!

So what is this little spriting project of mine? Well, to put it simply, it's just doing a single idle sprite. Just one!! I have the pose in mind and the character sprite reference in mind, as well as the artwork, but I have yet to start yet (may actually stream this later tonight!!).

For the references, I have these:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

The first image is the base pose, which I think will work for the person I am going to do this for. The second and third images are the base sprites I'm thinking of using. However, I've never worked with Xrd sprites, only +R sprites, and while I WOULD like to work with Xrd sprites (models...rather...but you know) since it'd allow for more details, I don't know how feasible this would be.

Oh...I never mentioned exactly who this was going to be for, did I? Well, this is a little sprite project that I'm doing for Ceres Fauna as a gift actually! I'm just hoping it...doesn't come off as weird or anything?

Anywho, yeah, I have the art reference for that (well, only one, don't know how much that'll help with the pose but it's something??). Again, I'd like to do most of the work myself, but having help would be much appreciated, especially for detailing or just....getting the overall posing right because I'm so out of the loop!

I'm really hoping to see this one through. Last time I did spriting, I didn't finish the Lenna sprite, only the Maria Renard sprite, and that was....back on Aug 19, 2013. So....10 years its been since I last sprited. Oi yoi yoi....

I will keep updates in this thread whenever possible, for those that are willing to see it through with me!
    

Re: DeathScythe WIPs

 July 30, 2023, 12:12:10 am View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Lyrica WIPs (Started by Lyrica July 05, 2018, 09:06:25 pm
 Board: Projects
I have a couple Sangues if you want (though they're pretty old and don't know if they'd suit your tastes). That's about all I have on my end, unless anyone wants to touch up on those and make them better for the project~ Want or nah?
    

Re: DeathScythe WIPs

 July 29, 2023, 02:48:52 am View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Lyrica WIPs (Started by Lyrica July 05, 2018, 09:06:25 pm
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Oh, interesting! Wasn't expecting that since haven't seen a proper one for her default at all.

Interesting, interesting. So mostly vanilla but with the addition of that super.

And last question, and you can probably guess what this one is, will you be doing any other special states as well?
    

Re: DeathScythe WIPs

 July 28, 2023, 10:30:10 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Lyrica WIPs (Started by Lyrica July 05, 2018, 09:06:25 pm
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Interesting to see and hear~ And interesting 2nd Bliss you have there, definitely something I wouldn't have expected (and somehow very fitting!). Are both Blisses going to be CFJ styled or are you going to try for the original style for them?

(Also man, wish someone would update the shock lol)

Curious as well, you plan on giving her anything original for moves??
    

Re: Divine WIPs

 June 25, 2023, 01:16:12 am View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Divine WIPs (Started by DivineWolf May 15, 2012, 03:45:05 am
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Good to see that someone likes that Bliss lol. I have a couple others, if you also want them (though neither one of them have a full animation, but could use one for the CFJ styled version, if you wanted to? Unless you could find someone to do the full animation for it~
    

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project

 March 25, 2023, 12:21:13 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Midnight Bliss and Shock Project  (Started by Xenomic April 27, 2008, 12:56:53 am
 Board: Sprite Projects
Honestly interesting to see, given it's not done much~ Wouldn't mind seeing you try the rest at all!
    

Re: Cammy Delta Red 2022 UPDATE

 March 18, 2023, 08:45:19 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Cammy Delta Red 2022 UPDATE (Started by Tiger-Boy February 09, 2022, 03:33:04 am
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Oh yeeeeah. SFAGuy made a lot of those way back when, I forgot that. The black dress one in the top row is one based on that promo image too~

I think (personally) of them all, my favorites are the last in the first row, the 4th in the 2nd row (what is that actually?), and the fancy dress one at the end. Not sure what the one after the red cloak one is either. Huh...

I think SFAGuy has more on his DA, don't know if there's more Cammy stuff there or not.
    

Re: Cammy Delta Red 2022 UPDATE

 March 18, 2023, 08:24:46 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Cammy Delta Red 2022 UPDATE (Started by Tiger-Boy February 09, 2022, 03:33:04 am
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Oooh, that's a good one! I also wonder if a cheerleader design would work for her too, or something of the sort~ Or something more British too, like a British noblewoman (heh). The fun thing with Midnight Bliss is how much can be done with it for each character~

Yeah, it just took the sprites that POTS already had and went from there. He based it off of one of the images with her in a black dress, which is still super great to this day~
    

Re: Cammy Delta Red 2022 UPDATE

 March 17, 2023, 10:22:27 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Cammy Delta Red 2022 UPDATE (Started by Tiger-Boy February 09, 2022, 03:33:04 am
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Yeah, I remember when I did the Midnight Bliss animation (based on POTS's Cammy's Midnight Bliss, I just tried the animation years ago), I felt like I could've done better with it. It's not BAD per say, but like...I obviously wasn't super great with spriting lol. I almost wonder if a different pose could work too, hmm....the dress does still looks very nice on her, relooking at it.
    

Re: Cammy Delta Red 2022 UPDATE

 March 14, 2023, 06:42:21 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Cammy Delta Red 2022 UPDATE (Started by Tiger-Boy February 09, 2022, 03:33:04 am
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An interesting take on the shocked animation, reminds me of how Chun-Li has 2 different ones in SFA3. Still fits that game's style too!

Now you got me curious how your own version of the Bliss and Sangue would look lol!
    

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project

 March 09, 2023, 05:48:57 am View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Midnight Bliss and Shock Project  (Started by Xenomic April 27, 2008, 12:56:53 am
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Luigi seems like he's taking it the worst of the two lol. I forgot that was even a state in MUGEN period.

Also, interesting Midnight Bliss there. Don't know the character, but it looks like a nice Bliss.
    

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project

 January 22, 2023, 01:09:09 am View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Midnight Bliss and Shock Project  (Started by Xenomic April 27, 2008, 12:56:53 am
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Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project

 January 15, 2023, 06:31:37 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Midnight Bliss and Shock Project  (Started by Xenomic April 27, 2008, 12:56:53 am
 Board: Sprite Projects
No worries, no worries~ They are, after all, just suggestions~

Never thought I'd see anything for Q, gotta say that lol. I dunno why, but maybe it's because I did all the Guilty Gear games, it reminds me of those guys from Sign lol. The Terry one looks really clean, feels a lot better than the one they had in SVC Chaos for sure! And the Chang one is really nice too! Wouldn't mind seeing that one fully fleshed out! I forgot that that one was from KOFAS, wonder what else they have there now since it's been a looooong time since I last looked at the image. x_x
    

Re: Midnight Bliss and Shock Project

 December 11, 2022, 08:19:17 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Xenomic  in Midnight Bliss and Shock Project  (Started by Xenomic April 27, 2008, 12:56:53 am
 Board: Sprite Projects
So, was thinking about this a while ago, and instead of that for Menat, which probably fits, I think a more "fitting" one would be something more akin to Skullgirls' Eliza for Menat's Midnight Bliss~ Didn't realize how similar the two looked, and probably be more fun to do that for her~
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