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Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
#2701  October 09, 2021, 09:12:24 PM
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Next Smash game should be a arena fighter;
Heck no.
Smash will always be a platform fighter.

But hear me out, bro...


3D Platforms!:flipout:



Next Smash game should have health bars and walls.

Stamina, what's that?
In the next Smash game, I want to see them do more unique motions as they did with the newcomers in Ultimate (and Ryu in Smash 4),

Like Shield+B (Inkling), the characters with the special traditional fighting game moves (Ryu, Ken, Terry),
and all the additional directional inputs that Kazuya has.

So a Smash game with more tie-ins to the traditional fighting games mechanics, hmmn...

...Alright, it settled then. Give Smash a little break:


The next big crossover event shall be called,

Nintendo Vs. Capcom! :c00l:

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
#2702  October 10, 2021, 12:05:11 AM
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No:
-Corrin
Ok, goes to show how little I pay attention to the series that I legit forgot Corrin was even in this game.  So yeah, Corrin I'd agree is keen to go before Roy.  Dunno if I agree with Chrom just because how much Awakening is the series savior, but likewise I would not bat an eye if he's gone next game.
Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
#2703  October 10, 2021, 01:28:36 AM
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anyone know how much does it cost to get a private character from other games?

I'd imagine each company has their own terms on how much it costs to license a character to appear in Smash.  A lot smaller companies and indies would be more than happy to have their character get recognition in Smash.  Other like Sega, Capcom, and Namco Bandai who are on friendly terms with Nintendo probably wouldn't want to set their prices too high.  There's been all sorts of rumours floating around for how stingy Square Enix has been for Smash, who knows how much of that is true.  ...And then there's Disney.  Getting Sora in probably costed Nintendo a lot more than an arm and a leg.  They've been aware that he was the most requested character for six years, so I'd imagine a good amount of that time was spent negotiating terms with Disney.
Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
#2704  October 10, 2021, 03:06:49 AM
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Getting rid of Byleth but having Monster Hunter take over their schtick would be great. IMO Marth, Ike and Robin are the trinity.
Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
#2705  October 14, 2021, 05:47:34 AM
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i made a sorter with every smash character. someone already made one but it looked ugly
https://fanfictionimg.tumblr.com/smashsort

you can then combine your results with this crap and then post your trimmed roster. you'd have to add sora by yourself because whoever made the tier maker hasn't updated it. are you a bad enough dude to cut it down to 50? 40?
https://tiermaker.com/create/super-smash-bros-ultimate-renders-with-echos-combinable-1070092

Spoiler: mine (click to see content)
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#2706  October 14, 2021, 06:26:04 AM
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I never really considered if Marth was less popular than Lucina. I think Marth still enjoys a good amount of popularity based on FE Heroes and his various appearances cross-series though.
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#2707  October 14, 2021, 07:01:41 AM
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fire emblem heroes is one of the reasons i believe the other characters are just more popular. in the first "choose your legends" poll from 2017 he got 8th place overall (counting male and female characters, and combining votes for both marths). he never "won" the poll until this year, where he got a distant second place to a three houses meme character. he's prioritized for cross promotional stuff (like the dragalia lost crossover) but as far as i'm concerned he's a jobber. i picked lucina over him because i'm biased but it really should be ike (popularity) and byleth (cool moveset gimmick, three houses was popular) or robin (uses magic, popular game).
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#2708  October 14, 2021, 07:40:20 AM
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ike definitely the one who stands out the most to me as a genuinely great character who stood the test of time from his reveal to today. i think i would go ike, marth, robin if I had to choose 3.
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#2709  October 14, 2021, 07:50:46 AM
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i think part of the reason fire emblem gets a bad rep in smash is that you've got marth and then ike and they're not clones but still have some similarities at a glance (blue haired guys with a sword, a neutral b sword attack that can be charged and a down b counter) so i'd cut one of them to make room for a character with even more differences in moveset and appearance (robin, byleth, even corrin). fire emblem's probably my favorite game series of all time but sacrifices would have to be made
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#2710  October 14, 2021, 11:48:28 AM
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The sensible thing would be to have Marthina as alts like Wii Fit and Villager; that's how they were before Sakurai decided to make them separate characters. And yeah, a lot of FE's bad rep is that it has an oddly high percentage of characters with no real standout qualities, being tweaked Marths to varying degrees. Corrin is at least visually different, but is disliked in both Smash for being an advertisement and in Fates for being a terrible character. Couldn't even add an axe user, pftheh.

Exclusively Gen 1 representation, just as Game Freak would want :}

Oh, I want a diagram. I fucking love diagrams.
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Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
#2711  October 14, 2021, 02:46:15 PM
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I know Sakurai himself almost did it multiple times before, but come on, man.
You can't just cut Jigglypuff from the roster. It's one of the Original 12. It has a legacy.
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#2712  October 14, 2021, 09:20:51 PM
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Spoiler: My personal takes on this trimming game (click to see content)
Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate
#2713  October 19, 2021, 03:32:48 PM
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what are you impression about Sora´s gameplay? after trying his out,
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#2714  October 19, 2021, 05:58:24 PM
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#2715  October 19, 2021, 07:40:41 PM
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what are you impression about Sora´s gameplay? after trying his out,

He's great.
Light but hits hard. So basically how he is in canon.
his Sonic Blade is super good as a attack and a recovery. His magic is a good opener.
Really impressed with him so far.
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#2716  October 19, 2021, 10:40:19 PM
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what are you impression about Sora´s gameplay? after trying his out,

Sora can literally counter Banjo's Wonderwing: https://twitter.com/charmstwt/status/1450288164745187329
a normally fully invincible move that can normally only be countered by throws
...yeah, Sora is absolutely the Bayonetta of Smash Ultimate
Sora can counter one specific move so that means he's as broken as Smash 4 Bayo.


Did you at all stop to think about what you were writing?
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#2717  October 19, 2021, 11:34:42 PM
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what are you impression about Sora´s gameplay? after trying his out,

Sora can literally counter Banjo's Wonderwing: https://twitter.com/charmstwt/status/1450288164745187329
a normally fully invincible move that can normally only be countered by throws
...yeah, Sora is absolutely the Bayonetta of Smash Ultimate
Sora can counter one specific move so that means he's as broken as Smash 4 Bayo.


Did you at all stop to think about what you were writing?

I never said that him being able to do that is the sole reason why he's as broken as Smash 4 Bayo.

Did you at all stop to think about not putting words into someone's mouth?
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#2718  October 20, 2021, 01:00:32 AM
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I never said that him being able to do that is the sole reason why he's as broken as Smash 4 Bayo.

Did you at all stop to think about not putting words into someone's mouth?
Sora can literally counter Banjo's Wonderwing: https://twitter.com/charmstwt/status/1450288164745187329
a normally fully invincible move that can normally only be countered by throws
...yeah, Sora is absolutely the Bayonetta of Smash Ultimate

Tell me again, how am I putting words in your mouth when it's exactly what you said?

Did you at all stop to think about what you were writing?
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#2719  October 20, 2021, 01:11:16 AM
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I never said that him being able to do that is the sole reason why he's as broken as Smash 4 Bayo.

Did you at all stop to think about not putting words into someone's mouth?
Sora can literally counter Banjo's Wonderwing: https://twitter.com/charmstwt/status/1450288164745187329
a normally fully invincible move that can normally only be countered by throws
...yeah, Sora is absolutely the Bayonetta of Smash Ultimate

Tell me again, how am I putting words in your mouth when it's exactly what you said?

Did you at all stop to think about what you were writing?

Except it's not exactly what I said.
I said that Sora can counter that move.
I said that Sora is the Bayonetta of Smash Ultimate.
I never said that Sora is the Bayonetta of Smash Ultimate solely because of him being able to counter that move.
So no, you absolutely were putting words in my mouth.
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#2720  October 20, 2021, 01:16:38 AM
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Except it's not exactly what I said.
I said that Sora can counter that move.
I said that Sora is the Bayonetta of Smash Ultimate.
I never said that Sora is the Bayonetta of Smash Ultimate solely because of him being able to counter that move.
So no, you absolutely were putting words in my mouth.

It's not so much about what you said as much as it is the way you're wording it. You don't give other reasons as to why Sora is as busted as he is, you only said that because he was able to counter Wonderwing.

While you said Wonderwing can be countered by throws, it also has a variety of other flaws, so saying that Sora is busted solely because he can counter it does not sound logical.
Unsafe on block, can be grabbed out of and a fair amount of end lag are not qualities I would call an incontestable move. A competent player would catch onto the move pretty fast if it's being abused and some of the more challenging AI will render it just as situational. There are a lot of specials which grant this kind of benefit and would give the player no real reason to use the move if it didn't have some added bonus that made it better than a generic special. Not to mention its damage in Smash is pretty damn high itself, so, 200 damage doesn't sound unreasonable when put into perspective of those factors.

[OP is] overselling Wonderwing. It's a newb buster, but an experience player would play that move like a fiddle.