Art & Entertainment => Entertainment => Topic started by: Long John Killer on April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
Title: Death Battle (And sprite fight animations)
Post by: Long John Killer on April 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
With the most recent release, thought this could use a discussion thread to itself. For those new to it, Death Battle is a video series by Screwattack where two characters from separate sources with similar themes and who would not normally meet are placed in a death match, with research done on both contestants to decide who'll be the winner. Also by the same animators is One Minute Melee, a similar series of matches between similar characters, but minus the research.
A playlist of all the previous episodes of Death Battle can be found here (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB833073B659FD65A). One Minute Melee's can be found here (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY_6uAtgkYXmXFl-zzZ0wQErGi4AbgSkn).
Their most recent release was Blake versus Mikasa.
Feel free to discuss current and upcoming matches, match requests and reasons why Majin Buu vs Kirby is completely ridiculous.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Sinnesloschen on April 09, 2015, 04:01:09 AM
I feel like Guts vs. Nightmare was a really nice return to form. Something about some of their other recent battles (cough Samus vs Boba Fett remaster) seems kinda off, but this one felt a lot more natural and well-done to me. Maybe it was the lack of wonky 3D models.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Kirishima on April 09, 2015, 04:04:14 AM
Not surprised they went with Oggy's sprites but CVS Artist's Nightmare too is new. BTW Seanaltly's Scorpion sprites were used for their Ryu vs Scorpion fight. Awesome.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Seadragon77 on April 09, 2015, 04:05:49 AM
In a way, Death Battle has been quite an educational thing for me. I've never heard of Guts before this match... I now know that he has to be one of the most, if not the most, scariest son of a bitch in anime/manga history. Seriously! What this guy went through is beyond insane.. It makes you want to give him a big old bro hug, you know.
I do like the idea of Iron Man vs. Lex Luthor. That ought to be a fun one.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: MotorRoach on April 09, 2015, 04:09:26 AM
This the only Death Battle video I actually enjoyed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eDSt8OHkx0)
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Kirishima on April 09, 2015, 04:14:23 AM
It'll be awesome if @Shockdingo reprises his role as Lex Luthor if Death Battle uses the custom sprites from Mugen.
In a way, Death Battle has been quite an educational thing for me. I've never heard of Guts before this match... I now know that he has to be one of the most, if not the most, scariest son of a bitch in anime/manga history. Seriously! What this guy went through is beyond insane.. It makes you want to give him a big old bro hug, you know.
On a side note, he's also popular in Japanese Mugen where he has a fan-made manga where he and Vergil from Devil May Cry go in their wacky Mugen adventures.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: R565 on April 09, 2015, 04:16:48 AM
Heck yeah! Now this is Vintage Death Battle! The 3d really left a sad taste in my mouth but I am so glad they went back to school.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Long John Killer on April 09, 2015, 04:20:29 AM
Personally my favorite in execution thus far as been Ryu v.s. Scorpion (Except how they end the match. Not the victor, just how lackluster it ended) and in concept Master Chief v.s. DoomGuy. While probably not very likely, I hope they revisit their older matches at some point, to incorporate new info and skills at the most or remaster at the least.
Down the road, of course. Got plenty new ideas as is, Iron Man v.s. Lex Luthor next, likely to stop him from stealing cakes of course, and I believe Galactus v.s. Unicron was one they had planned down the line as well.
As per 3D matches, RoboCop v.s. Terminator is actually my second favorite of their matches done thus far, but being who the contestants are is half the reason to that as well.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Deadface on April 09, 2015, 04:28:05 AM
On a side note, he's also popular in Japanese Mugen where he has a fan-made manga where he and Vergil from Devil May Cry go in their wacky Mugen adventures.
...you're shittin' me.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: MR. IBZS II on April 09, 2015, 04:30:16 AM
If anyone needs a redo, it should be Mario vs. Sonic. Mario used Smash Flash 2 sprites, which isn't that many attacks to go on, compared to Sonic's Sonic Battle sprites, which has hundreds, if not thousands of edits... Plus, Mario doesn't get tired...
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Kirishima on April 09, 2015, 04:31:06 AM
On a side note, he's also popular in Japanese Mugen where he has a fan-made manga where he and Vergil from Devil May Cry go in their wacky Mugen adventures.
...you're shittin' me.
Pixiv Nagare. Even Shar-Makai from Black Heart is there.
I just noticed it's taking them too long to have a DB involving Vergil with Bugya' sprites.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Long John Killer on April 09, 2015, 05:20:35 AM
Unfortunately they've yet to do anything Devil May Cry in Death Battle, but Screwattack did use his Dante in their other show One Minute Melee, for what that's worth.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Seadragon77 on April 09, 2015, 05:23:37 AM
Well, that is something worth looking into in the future for them. I think that there is someone out there that would be good for Dante to face in Death Battle.
BTW, One Minute Melee can be fun as well. It's basically just 'let them fight' and see which side gets pissed off first because their character lost.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: hatter on April 09, 2015, 05:24:03 AM
This the only Death Battle video I actually enjoyed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eDSt8OHkx0)
That was so awesome. I enjoyed that battle a lot.
I guess if we're talking about our fav. Death Battle segments, then mine are: - Master Chief v. Doomguy - Thor v. Raiden - Samus Aran v. Boba Fett (remastered) - Link v. Cloud Strife
Can't wait for the Guts and Nightmare battle. Bound to be exciting :)
Unfortunately they've yet to do anything Devil May Cry in Death Battle, but Screwattack did use his Dante in their other show One Minute Melee, for what that's worth.
I prefer watching their 1 minute melee like that Terry Bogard vs Burai
By the way, do mugen sprite artist get paid for borrowing their artwork?
From what I saw (discussion with one of the animators hired for the Ragna vs Sol DB) no, all they do is pay a sprite animator to put the animation together. Where the actual sprites come from doesn't matter, so no payment or credit is given to the spriters themselves.
If you have information that contradicts this please post it so I don't accidentally slander someone.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Thagr8test on April 09, 2015, 03:28:20 PM
They do actually give credit to sprite creators in the credits of the video an example would be the scorpion and ryu battle where they used sean altly's scorpion sprites
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: 地獄の花 on April 09, 2015, 04:53:15 PM
really liked their one minute melee by far my favourite is dio brando vs. sakuya izayoi.
since we're talking about death battles this guy just started a series just like screwattack's except it's live action. lol dragonborn's last words.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: hatter on April 09, 2015, 04:59:22 PM
They do actually give credit to sprite creators in the credits of the video an example would be the scorpion and ryu battle where they used sean altly's scorpion sprites
I remember them crediting chuchoryu for his Juri Han sprites in the Kim Kaphwan v. Juri Han melee.
really liked their one minute melee by far my favourite is dio brando vs. sakuya izayoi.
since we're talking about death battles this guy just started a series just like screwattack's except it's live action. lol dragonborn's last words. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBlhXKjSy6M[/youtube]
The Sakuya Izayoi v. Dio Brando melee is my all time fav, right next to Terry v. Burai, Kim v. Juri, and Capt. Commando v. Capt. Falcon.
Also this live action DB idea should be interesting.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: walt on April 09, 2015, 05:11:02 PM
They do actually give credit to sprite creators in the credits of the video an example would be the scorpion and ryu battle where they used sean altly's scorpion sprites
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Thagr8test on April 09, 2015, 05:21:29 PM
yeah I was wondering how pots fit into the whole thing but I don't know his history like that so I didn't want to assume anything
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: walt on April 09, 2015, 05:24:10 PM
I'm pretty sure they just took Reu's ERyu from POTS' site, and thought POTS made it. Not to mention, I believe Reu even mentioned that the sprite edits in his characters weren't even made by him, but King Tigre.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Duos.act on April 09, 2015, 05:33:23 PM
You are correct. That was partially the source of the Evil Homer controversy years ago was that the FX were left unchanged, and the FX/sprites were by KingTigre and TMasta and NOT Reu.
I guess I should take the L on this one, I honestly never noticed the credits.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: walt on April 09, 2015, 05:38:07 PM
No, I mean, I just want to contact the Screw Attack guys and tell them "Hey, were this English speaking community, you could contact us for info instead of trampling all over the community's work for Youtube profits"
If they come here, we can at least tell them how to properly credit the spriters, or even get help, who knows.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Duos.act on April 09, 2015, 05:41:19 PM
Assuming my info is right Screwattack don't make the animations, they commission animators to do them. You're right though, a little courtesy would be nice. I'm sure most people wouldn't mind their stuff being used at all, as it gets more people aware of their work.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: walt on April 09, 2015, 05:59:55 PM
Exactly. More exposure of MUGEN means we could make the community grow.
I've contacted them through Twitter, invited them to come here (they know MFG exists because they've used POTS and Sean Altly's materials) - Let's see if they respond the call.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Kirishima on April 09, 2015, 06:05:26 PM
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: walt on April 09, 2015, 06:07:29 PM
oh yeah, someone is getting suplexed
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: AlexSin on April 09, 2015, 06:27:05 PM
The only time I remember they credited someone correctly is when there was that Toph vs Gaara Death Battle, in which they credited AkumaTh for the Toph spritesheet, which is correct (they even put the spritesheet in the description)...
Since we're talking about ScrewAttack, the best One Minute Melee for me was Mr. Satan vs Dan. Of course, not great sprite edits for some instances, but I really enjoyed it, which is rare for me.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Duos.act on April 09, 2015, 08:13:47 PM
It's a step up from Sean Atly or SEANALITY I'm sure.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: DEATH BATTLE! on April 09, 2015, 11:37:11 PM
Hey everyone! Walt reached out to us and we've been speaking via e-mail. Apologies for any confusion on sprite crediting. Sometimes when we come across assets we'd like to use in the episode we can't track down the exact source. The internet's a big place haha. But, I want to express to you that we always do attempt to track down the source for proper crediting / permission. We'll definitively pop into this community for future episodes that require Mugen sprites to ensure everything's on the up and up. Glad you guys enjoy the show!
Love, Boomstick
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: walt on April 09, 2015, 11:40:35 PM
BOOM!
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Duos.act on April 09, 2015, 11:41:54 PM
Awesome job Walt. You're the best.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: walt on April 09, 2015, 11:49:48 PM
I'm pretty sure these guys will definitely be interested in some of the cool things that have been going on lately around here.
We've gotta admit that while gaming at large is becoming more mainstream, this 2D FG fandom is getting pretty niche, so we should all be friends :P
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Kirishima on April 09, 2015, 11:57:01 PM
:D
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: hatter on April 10, 2015, 12:03:04 AM
Holy hell, its Boomstick. Great work, walt!! :D
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Thagr8test on April 10, 2015, 12:06:11 AM
didn't expect that so soon but thats definitely cool. Question what was the first death battle you guys saw? I first watched the tmnt episode
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: AlexSin on April 10, 2015, 12:11:19 AM
I think Chun Li vs Mai Shiranui, or Link vs Cloud, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Long John Killer on April 10, 2015, 12:14:45 AM
Must resist temptation to suggest for Lara Croft v.s. Indiana Jones and Spike Spiegel v.s. Mokoto Kusanagi straight to source...
Thanks for that though, Walt. Awesome job, you're the best.
It'll be awesome if @Shockdingo reprises his role as Lex Luthor if Death Battle uses the custom sprites from Mugen.
I'd love to do that! Hah, I actually sent my voice demo to them a bit back and they gave it a listen. It would be awesome if they did call me in for that or anything, but who knows. Also, glad they've gone back to sprites with the latest vid.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Bea on April 10, 2015, 12:40:21 AM
I'm pretty sure these guys will definitely be interested in some of the cool things that have been going on lately around here.
We've gotta admit that while gaming at large is becoming more mainstream, this 2D FG fandom is getting pretty niche, so we should all be friends :P
No. I refuse to and challenge you to the most traditional barbarian martial art, Jello wrestling!
'Tis truly a sacred art. I'll get the WarDrums and Conan soundtracks
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Iced on April 10, 2015, 03:54:59 AM
Heh, thats cool. I remember they used my team's Vegeta here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRImBS_bCfE
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Thagr8test on April 10, 2015, 04:17:24 AM
Ill gladly wrestle in his place but i insist on the jello being blue
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: Dumanios on April 10, 2015, 05:13:00 AM
So, my favorite deathbattles are probably Chuck Norris vs. Segata Sanshiro, Thor vs. Raiden, Spidey vs. Batman, and Samus vs. Boba 2.
Though I'm admittedly a sucker for epic fights.
My favorite one minute melee by quite a bit is Sakuya vs. DIO.
And as for Ironman vs. Lex Luthor, my money's on Ironman.
Title: Re: Death Battle
Post by: 地獄の花 on April 10, 2015, 02:21:39 PM
luthor is my favourite non watchmen dc character. nite owl vs. batman needs to happen.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 16, 2015, 03:36:45 AM
Just gonna go ahead and change the thread to cover One Minute Melee as well, since that's from the same team of animators and also is from Screwattack.
The previously taken down Sol Badguy vs Ragna fight was reuploaded. So that's there.
And Iron Man's preview for his match was uploaded.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: S. Jetstream on April 16, 2015, 03:42:41 AM
I have a feeling Tony has no chance against Luthor. Luthor stole 40 cakes. That is as many as 4 tens and it is terrible. How can Tony beat that?
I will be sorely disappointed if the match is not started over Tony going to capture Lex over his mass pastry theft. Or at least a quip about the greatest accomplishment Lex has ever done is become known for stealing cakes.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on April 16, 2015, 11:57:41 AM
Yes, it will be pretty sad if they don't even do a passing mention over Lex vilest deed to this day.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 16, 2015, 01:21:18 PM
I was a little upset they missed a perfect opportunity to explain in all seriousness how Chuck Norris lost to everyone in The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny in his video, so I hope they don't miss this for Lex now.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Darkflare on April 16, 2015, 05:47:41 PM
Some of the fan art used for Sol went uncredited, the artists were not happy. They are now in the video's description though.
It was just one fan art and he was credited at the end in the credits. He was just pissed that they didn't ask for permission for it in the first place and went ahead and filed a copyright claim for Youtube to take it down.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on April 21, 2015, 01:41:51 AM
Any last minute predictions for the next episode? I think I'm going to give this one to Lex, since he bodies Superman on a regular basis and is one of the only regular humans to do so.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on April 21, 2015, 01:45:19 AM
Luthor stole 40 cakes. He got this.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 21, 2015, 01:54:13 AM
My in-depth knowledge on both of them is rather weak, but from what I've seen for the most part they match each other in their suit offensive and defensive capabilities. Or at least counter each if not quite the same level. Lex however bases his energy attack tech on Kryptonite radiation, something outside Tony's universe and something he doesn't have the right defenses for. I presume Tony will die a painful death from radiation.
Unless his suit has a cure-all magitech option. Then Tony with his army of autopiloted suits besting Lex and his bots.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on April 21, 2015, 01:54:50 AM
luthor if he'll pull that anti-life(matter i forgot what it's called again) thing then yes he'll win.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 21, 2015, 01:58:34 AM
Also wait, last minute predictions? They still have to do Lex's pre-battle preview on Wednesday then wait another week.
Oh right, something I meant to do when I last updated the thread. Video of the last One Minute Melee too, Lucario and Renamon.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Chronan on April 21, 2015, 02:39:20 AM
I'm not a fan myself, but even less so given their manner of crediting basically appears to be "whatever name we see first": (http://i.imgur.com/MgfwcRP.jpg)
I never knew Cyanide was a sprite artist! Failed credit on Neocide's Kid Buu sprites that he might as well have made from scratch, the work he put in on those back in the day was nuts. The other guys coded the UB22 characters and at most just ripped the sprites AFAIK. I can understand fucking it up a bit, but when you know enough to gut and rip stuff out of a Mugen character at least check the ReadMes that are included with said character.
Normally, I wouldn't care about credit these days. BUT they enabled advertisement on that video, so they are effectively they are making change off Neocide's work and others who may or may not be credited. The very least all their researchers could do is.. basic research. A bit salty, but hey that's just my take on it. They just went lazy on the easy part.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on April 21, 2015, 02:46:36 AM
Even people in our own community seem to have a problem with that!
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 22, 2015, 11:13:57 PM
With Walt's little discussion with them, hopefully that mistake won't happen again.
Lex's preview is up. So yeah, they're using the Kryptonite blasts, Iron Man's dead I'd say.
Spoiler: Preview picture from their Facebook(click to see content)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/18811_814651205251163_6744948179704932592_n.jpg?oh=945d3e59b242cd2dc0c2ec48f8aafff8&oe=55E5E559&__gda__=1436399026_7184daedcdbaf7d471f31cb25ab3a0de) Guess it's back to 3D.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on April 22, 2015, 11:40:10 PM
i don't want them to use sprites at all. sprites are too limited and only suitable for video games, plus you can only watch them from one angle. they should make all their fights with 3d models. that way they can put them anywhere and have them do basically anything they can MoCap.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sinnesloschen on April 22, 2015, 11:42:07 PM
They'd need to step up their model game, then, because almost all of the 3D models I've seen them use were kinda shoddy.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on April 22, 2015, 11:45:04 PM
... No mention to Lex vilest deed to this day on his intro... :( I am a sad Bea. I hope they mention the terrible act of stealing 40 cakes during the fight at least.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 23, 2015, 12:10:48 AM
They do cut out a lot of details in these small previews, I wouldn't be too worried that they'll miss Lex's biggest ongoing joke in the full thing.
I've been seeing Sora of Kingdom Hearts vs Pit from Kid Icarus suggestions a lot in their pages and videos. Personally I'd much rather Sora vs Sailor Moon. Still keeps to the young heros with the power of light theme, both have silly other forms and goofy weapons, completely ridiculous over the top powers and actually have ample sprite selections.
Plus you got the whole Sora saves princesses and Sailor Moon resents that notion bit. And they've already done Gundam and Dragonball, though they seem to have something against the latter. Missing the third mainstream anime classic. Plus while I can't vouch for certain having not played much Kid Icarus, the small bits of info I do know, Pit seems hopelessly outclassed in that matchup.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: hatter on April 23, 2015, 01:20:28 AM
i don't want them to use sprites at all. sprites are too limited and only suitable for video games, plus you can only watch them from one angle. they should make all their fights with 3d models. that way they can put them anywhere and have them do basically anything they can MoCap.
Not completely true. If you saw the Raiden v. Thor battle, you'll see that there was more than one angle being used. It just depends on the way they do it:
They'd need to step up their model game, then, because almost all of the 3D models I've seen them use were kinda shoddy.
Yeah, the only good Death Battle/One Minute Melee with 3D models were Samus Aran v. Boba Fett, Deadpool v. Deathstroke (Death Battle) and Batman v. Albert Wesker.
Spoiler: Completely off-topic(click to see content)
Does anybody the song used in the Raiden/Thor DB? I know I've heard it somewhere but I just can't put a finger on it... :(
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 27, 2015, 07:12:10 PM
New One Minute Melee.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 29, 2015, 11:42:06 PM
Double post for new Death Battle.
Before you start, yes, Lex's diabolical cake misdeed is indeed taken into account.
Spoiler: Winner and next battle(click to see content)
Tony wins. I'm sad. No involvement of Lex's personal Kryptonite super doses of radiation.
Next battle is X-Men's Beast and Gargoyles' Goliath.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Kirishima on April 30, 2015, 12:06:38 AM
Yeah this is defiantly one of my new favorites, probably top 3. Like the dramatic music in the last scene.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I'm pretty sure there's a Beast custom spriteset from Mugen, but then again no customs exist for Goliath.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sinnesloschen on April 30, 2015, 12:22:14 AM
At least it was animated better than the previous ones. Voice acting could've used a bit more work, but Lex's dialogue was pretty sweet.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Rest in Kryptonite.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on April 30, 2015, 12:32:22 AM
That was good. Animation was much better, but I am not keen on the shaders used. Dialogue could have used more work too.
And good that Lex most devilish heist was mentioned.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 30, 2015, 01:16:50 AM
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
There's always the Genesis Gargoyles' game (http://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/41/44162.png) to use for Goliath, with its unusual run I don't recall from back when I played it way back when. I have to say though, I was not expecting Goliath to show up in this series. If anything Disney show related I thought Kim Possible was a way more likely candidate.
...Or Elsa if they want to go with movies and have fun making people mad when she kills Sub-Zero.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sean Altly on May 01, 2015, 05:44:13 AM
I know I'm late to the party, but I'm not sure I'm a fan of this. Aside from being improperly credited, I have to assume that with videos getting into the millions of views, they're making some sort of money off of them. I know what I created was considered fanart since the sprites are of another company's intellectual property so I'm not going to cause a fuss over it. I know I should be happy that over 4 million people have viewed something that contained my work, but it just doesn't sit well with me. :-\
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on May 08, 2015, 01:42:09 AM
Beast's preview. Doesn't introduce much that most don't already know though.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on May 08, 2015, 02:27:28 AM
Aside from using the awesome intro theme to the old X-Men cartoon from the early 90's. :)
It'll be nice to get a refresher of Goliath and Gargoyles next week before the match up in two weeks.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on May 08, 2015, 03:18:12 AM
the 90's x-men theme song is awesome.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on May 15, 2015, 12:08:48 AM
Goliath's preview is out. Not much on abilities here either.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on May 21, 2015, 01:18:46 AM
Beast vs Goliath is out.
Update: Changed vid link since it's back up
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: walt on May 21, 2015, 01:26:43 AM
mmh... Whose Beast Sprites are those? They look familiar.
I wonder what they'll use for Solid Snake. If they go full 3D it'd be easier.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on May 21, 2015, 01:34:25 AM
I enjoyed this one, and the winner was appropriate. I expected more dialogue though. Guess I should blame Tony and Lex talking up a storm in theirs. And yay, I guessed the Goliath sprites correctly.
Solid Snake, huh? I've mostly avoided the series until I've gotten the chance to start from the beginning, and I have an opportunity coming up soon. Guess I'm not going to have enough time to cram everything about the seires by next Wednesday's preview though.
Well the only two I can place to rival him on what I do know, spy to spy, are James Bond and Joanna Dark. Both I'd prefer to win. Nothing against Snake, just I know the other two and like them more than I do Snake.
Since thinking it over since last posting it, now I seriously want Sailor Moon and Sora though....
Also, I think they uploaded the wrong version. Goliath is missing part of the text for his info, and they forgot the usual "fight" announcement before they fight. Well, the video was made private, guess they did upload the wrong version by mistake.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: hatter on May 21, 2015, 02:22:06 AM
I kinda wished it lasted longer, though. IMHO, it felt waaaayy too short.
Since thinking it over since last posting it, now I seriously want Sailor Moon and Sora though....
._.
I honestly think that Sora versus.... I don't know, maybe a Tales character, or a Fire Emblem swordsman would sound a lot more badass than Sailor Moon. I'd rather they not do it based on the theme if it would lead to that match-up. That's an opinion though, don't take it too seriously.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on May 21, 2015, 02:26:46 AM
I cannot say for certain, I have not played either of those series's, but as I recall, Sora's potential makes him a possible universe destroyer. As is Sailor Moon. I would imagine they would be dreadfully outclassed, similar to Pit who's been often suggested with Sora.
Though really I'm just curious for both Kingdom Hearts and Sailor Moon to make some appearance, they're both overdue. Why not together? They fit.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on May 21, 2015, 02:30:41 AM
The solution is clear. Carmen Sandiego vs Wally (or Waldo, as Wally is called in some strange places).
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Kirishima on May 21, 2015, 02:31:56 AM
So they indeed went with the custom Beast sprites. And I thought there would be sprite clashing but that video pulled it off well.
I was rooting for Beast too. Oh well.
I guessing Snake's match might be rendered in 3D. Unless they somehow found out how to spell SeanAltly's name right.
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Carmen Sandiego vs Wally (or Waldo, as Wally is called in some strange places).
This is new to me. Didn't know Waldo went by other names.
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mmh... Whose Beast Sprites are those? They look familiar.
Acey and Co.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on May 21, 2015, 03:09:00 AM
The video's back.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on May 21, 2015, 04:00:23 AM
Updated my post with the uploaded vid now. Thanks for letting me know, though.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on May 21, 2015, 05:35:34 AM
base from the clips gargoyles sure has some pretty animation for a 90's cartoon i don't remember it was like that.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on May 28, 2015, 06:46:26 PM
Snake's preview is out.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on June 03, 2015, 05:50:34 AM
Guess what's out early?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Kirishima on June 03, 2015, 06:16:47 AM
Most were right about this match going full 3D. I'm surprised the codec portrait positions were out of place. Curious about that one, but match was great.
Oh cool, Vader.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on June 03, 2015, 01:32:33 PM
imo fisher vs snake is the best one they ever done.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on June 03, 2015, 04:28:27 PM
BEST DEATH BATTLE YET
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Thagr8test on June 04, 2015, 12:01:49 AM
man that was intense I was with snake all the way never got into splinter cell
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: SNT on June 10, 2015, 04:22:28 AM
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on June 10, 2015, 04:40:03 AM
Doom enthusiasts, is there anything preventing Vader from using Force Choke on Doom and finishing the match in seconds? I don't believe they count it as magic for Doom to counteract it with magic, and I don't know much on Doom's suit on the technological side what it can do to prevent it. Though I disagree with the match's outcome, Pikachu vs Blanka showed they don't particularly mind going for the quick and easy win when provided, so I doubt they'll just skip Force Choking him because it's too unfair.
My only guess is blending in with an army of Doombots, but can't Force-users detect life? And magic powers across the galaxy, if I recall one of the novels correctly. So that doesn't seem like the most effective strategy.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Jmorphman on June 10, 2015, 05:20:34 AM
If his various magical and technological safeguards built into his suit aren't able to protect him, surely he'd be able to fire off a finger laser or cast an incantation that would either kill or at least distract Vader enough to get him to drop his concentration and free Doom?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on June 10, 2015, 05:32:57 AM
magic and incantation? isn't he supposed to be a metalized human who can control electricity?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 10, 2015, 05:38:34 AM
That ain't even the half of it. Doom is OP, he's constructed from the ground up to only be defeated by teamwork and his threat grew exponentially early on because FF was the flagship comic of Marvel in the 60s.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Jmorphman on June 10, 2015, 05:45:07 AM
magic and incantation? isn't he supposed to be a metalized human who can control electricity?
That's just the shitty movie version(s).
The mainstream version of Dr. Doom, classically, has no inherent superpowers. He's got a genius intellect and is equally skilled in both science and magic; his power armor rivals and in many cases surpasses Iron Man's suite of armors, and his skill in sorcery rivals that of Dr. Strange! He's invented his own time machine, incredibly lifelike robot doubles of himself that can and have fooled most everyone, and rules over his own nation. He is an expert tactician and has had numerous, complicates schemes and plots over the years that have seen him gain omnipotence and/or world domination multiple times, which were undone not because the heroes were able to overcome him, but because of his own failings. He is the premiere Marvel villain, their very best. All are beneath Doom. :doom:
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on June 10, 2015, 08:06:44 PM
The mainstream version of Dr. Doom, classically, has no inherent superpowers. He's got a genius intellect and is equally skilled in both science and magic; his power armor rivals and in many cases surpasses Iron Man's suite of armors, and his skill in sorcery rivals that of Dr. Strange! He's invented his own time machine, incredibly lifelike robot doubles of himself that can and have fooled most everyone, and rules over his own nation. He is an expert tactician and has had numerous, complicates schemes and plots over the years that have seen him gain omnipotence and/or world domination multiple times, which were undone not because the heroes were able to overcome him, but because of his own failings. He is the premiere Marvel villain, their very best. All are beneath Doom. :doom:
Last I checked, he also got punched silly by Luke Cage for a meagre 100 bucks debt...
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Jmorphman on June 11, 2015, 05:22:58 AM
Well look, you don't mess with Luke Cage: (http://i.imgur.com/EWqo7US.jpg)
Luke Cage could beat up Vader too, though! A force choke can't get through unbreakable skin!
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on June 15, 2015, 10:50:33 PM
Not really Death Battle or Minute Melee.. buuut I thought its worth a watch
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on June 18, 2015, 01:42:15 AM
The animation itself is nice, I just hate how he uses radically different soundclips that sound inconsistent with eachother for Spider-Man, Batman and Superman and the others.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on June 18, 2015, 01:53:30 AM
Darth Vader's preview is out. Part of me is surprised by the sprite choice for him, but the alternatives are not many or much better. The animator's going to have to have Vader being really defensive, or get really creative with their edits and animations. Likely both.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: hatter on June 18, 2015, 02:22:07 AM
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpJVE7xkN5I[/youtube] Darth Vader's preview is out. Part of me is surprised by the sprite choice for him, but the alternatives are not many or much better. The animator's going to have to have Vader being really defensive, or get really creative with their edits and animations. Likely both.
Oh my God, I can't wait to see Doctor Doom's. :D
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on June 25, 2015, 03:57:30 AM
Dr. Doom's preview's out.
Eh, I'd prefer Vader to win, but Doom's preview is lacking any significant info, which leads me to believe they'll drop the big stuff in the full episode that'll pull it in his favor. Though Vader's preview didn't exactly bring up much on his EU accomplishments, so maybe I'm looking into it too much.
They're doing nice with what there is on Vader's sprites at least.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 01, 2015, 08:13:19 PM
Full episode's out. It's pretty good.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on July 01, 2015, 09:13:39 PM
I liked it... of course, I liked it more seeing that Doom won. :)
What I don't like... is what they have planned next. I thought that the previous match settled everything and even if Goku went SSJ God Mode, Superman would still be stronger then he is by miles.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on July 01, 2015, 09:38:00 PM
Not to mention that they are also using New 52 Superman, who got an awful overpowered new ability recently. There is no point in this match. Zero. The result will be the same.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on July 01, 2015, 09:39:02 PM
IDFC about Goku vs Superman again, BUT im fucking excited to see Torian's fight animation for their fight, seriously, the guy does gorgeous animation, he would make Monty Oum proud.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 01, 2015, 09:42:14 PM
They just want to crush Goku fans' hopes and dreams even further. :3c
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 01, 2015, 09:53:33 PM
Seriously IDK why this is such a big debate.
Superman would beat Goku in a fight. Who cares really?
I notice the Goku fans on the internet go crazy and come up with bullshit usually involving understating Superman's powers. My favorite part of their arguments is when they try to say that Goku fans are the "Minority" on this issue, when I rarely ever see anyone say Superman can win.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: OZ on July 01, 2015, 10:05:21 PM
seeing as he's a plot device in a cape, the only people who root for him have to be more boring than he is
the only interesting superman is one who realizes that he makes for a really shitty hero
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on July 01, 2015, 10:35:43 PM
didn't they strip him of his powers in this latest run to give a new spin on his character? or did they wipe off that version of him in convergence? i personally don't like him a lot, but i love the stories that deconstruct characters like him, i.e, The boys and Irredeemable.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 01, 2015, 11:18:25 PM
seeing as he's a plot device in a cape, the only people who root for him have to be more boring than he is
the only interesting superman is one who realizes that he makes for a really shitty hero
Regardless of your opinion on him, he'll win Because he's OP as fuck. It has nothing to do with which character you like more. which is something people try to turn these kinds of things into.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on July 02, 2015, 01:42:59 AM
And to make matters worse, they are going to use the New 52 Superman, whose strength exceeds 5.972 sextillion metric tons (far, FAR more than the 200 quintillion tons used in the previous episode), who also has the solar-flare all out attack and who is a complete prick.
They could have made Thor vs Goku, Wonder Woman vs Goku, Aquaman vs Goku (for laughs, because while Aquaman is powerful, he is no match to Goku), use Martian Manhunter or Seiya from Saint Seiya vs Goku and it would be more interesting to see and fairer, closer fights.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Thagr8test on July 02, 2015, 01:58:14 AM
down the line It would be cool to see of the green lanterns fight someone from the nova corps
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Jmorphman on July 02, 2015, 02:24:20 AM
Yes, of course Doom wins. He's just on such a ridiculously higher plane than Vader, even with the latter's much more over-the-top feats that were added by EU sources. But honestly, after this week's Secret Wars, all I could think was "why is Darth Vader giving Doom any amount of trouble?"
seeing as he's a plot device in a cape, the only people who root for him have to be more boring than he is
the only interesting superman is one who realizes that he makes for a really shitty hero
Look, while this claim is easily disprove and objectively untrue, let us all try and humor this thought for a bit. Remember who it is Superman is being compared to: Goku, the most one dimensional and boring character in the history of the universe! ;P
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Thagr8test on July 02, 2015, 02:28:44 AM
superman is great but don't you bad mouth goku! I demand you retract that statement at once!
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 02, 2015, 02:30:01 AM
Look, while this claim is easily disprove and objectively untrue, let us all try and humor this thought for a bit. Remember who it is Superman is being compared to: Goku, the most one dimensional and boring character in the history of the universe! ;P
I was actually going to mention this but didn't feel like responding/ reading the massive amount of flames.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Jmorphman on July 02, 2015, 02:31:46 AM
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Thagr8test on July 02, 2015, 02:36:44 AM
I think they just like bathing in the tears of fan boys because there really is no reason for this to take place again unless they going to let goku win and setup a third fight down the line or some shit
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Jmorphman on July 02, 2015, 02:46:22 AM
I think they just like bathing in the tears of fan boys because there really is no reason for this to take place again unless they going to let goku win and setup a third fight down the line or some shit
The problem is... they can't. They are pitting a more powerful Goku against a Superman far more powerful than the last one (30 times stronger in therms of physical strength and who has limitless stamina under a yellow sun), and a complete arsehole too. If they let Goku win, their show "credibility" will be done for, because the numbers will be far more in favour to Super Prick man this time.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on July 02, 2015, 02:51:49 AM
Superman at least gets a chance to shine should he get a story by a good writer. goku is a soulless sucky dumb character that nevers changes or develops besides gaining new transformations (which are bound to end at some point). edit: @Bea i think they're gonna do it to troll dbz fans again.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Titiln on July 02, 2015, 02:52:55 AM
does anyone actually sit through the 10 minutes of the wacky voice guy explaining bullshit because i cant skip it fast enough
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on July 02, 2015, 02:54:11 AM
does anyone actually sit through the 10 minutes of the wacky voice guy explaining bullshit because i cant skip it fast enough
I skipped all of them except the Superman/Goku one because I wanted to see the facts or whatever so I can know if they were doing it right.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on July 02, 2015, 04:17:07 AM
I guess I'll be the Devil's Advocate and explain why Goku fans was asking for a rematch so hard, but this will be in the state of Spoilers for DBZ and up to Battle of The Gods and Xenoverse considering they aren't doing Ressurection of F apparently...
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One of the biggest misconceptions they have for Goku is the fact that they only used Lifting Strength to compare the two, not both Lifting AND Striking Strength, which is 2 completely different things(You can't tell me that Goku needed Super Saiyan to lift 4 tons, yet blew through king kai's planet effortlessly with a single punch against Beerus). We've seen plenty of times a single punch between any fighter after awhile being able to create massive shockwaves with ease despite ONLY using their Striking Strength.
The other is with the fact that they also ignored one thing that any DBZ fan is still debating: That Super Perfect Cell was capable of destroying a Solar System. The issue isn't whether it's true or false(because it's been stated numerous times through anime, manga(original language and translations) and video games and even a video game outright confirms this even harder by showing off HOW Cell's attack would have destroyed the Solar System(Source of where all of it's at: http://www.screwattack.com/news/cell-solar-system-buster-0) and the actual attack itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6MlSurcqR4)
If we put that into account, then Goku being BEYOND Super Saiyan 2 Gohan(who was still strong enough to STOP IT despite losing an arm) and now being SSJGod, Goku should be beyond simply being able to destroy stars and solar systems himself. Also, God Ki that Beerus and Whis have is stated to be VERY different than normal Ki by leagues so if we put it in that context(as well as even using say Xenoverse as an example where Beerus and Goku no sells Demigra's mind control technique because they are god level), that means Superman's main defence against Goku is now null and void(since you can stretch to say it's not magic which Superman is vunerable to).
This doesn't mean I believe Goku can kill all versions of Superman with ease, but I do believe people are so giving Goku too little credit even only him using SSJGod and that if anything Goku now has the biggest chance of killing Superman than he ever did before.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 02, 2015, 04:21:00 AM
The details are the best part, though...
Meh to the last one. I still say the Force works on a different plane than magic or telekinesis, Doom shouldn't have had defenses for being choked. And armor that deflects lightsabers likely is tough enough to stand lava, never mind he's already gone through the issue of enjoying a nice lava bath once before, I doubt it was something they'd forget to include. Oh well.
Godku goes by god ki now. As I understand, those with it simply are not hurt by lesser sources. Superman's feats can go on forever, but he can't hurt the guy now, so....yeah. Then again, I haven't seen Frieza's new movie yet, they seem to have him hold even ground. Somehow. I'm trying not to spoil it myself.
I'm still annoyed at the previous Superman/Goku fight. Among other things, SSJ4's 10x Kamehameha has a secondary internal massive explosion that they didn't use. I wanted that to beat Supes. >:(
If they let Goku win, their show "credibility" will be done for, because the numbers will be far more in favour to Super Prick man this time.
I'm...not sure that's been too high an issue, given how often that's said each episode. I still hear how Garra should have had no issue with Toph whatsoever every now and then.
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And they lost my vote of complete credibility back with Rogue and Wonder Woman anyways.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Luis Alejandro on July 02, 2015, 04:25:25 AM
they should do dr doom vs superman instead so that doom could win again ayeeeee
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on July 02, 2015, 04:26:19 AM
I'm...not sure that's been too high an issue, given how often that's said each episode. I still hear how Garra should have had no issue with Toph whatsoever every now and then.
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This. I'm still pissed off at Toph's "victory" because it literally makes no sense on how Gaara's abilities and techniques work and violates the very simple mechanic that should be obvious to anyone: Just because you can see it doesn't mean you can react to it.
Even the abilities she's shown makes no sense within the battle or the abilities used(i.e. Being able to create stone pillars with marvelous detail within a single movement or using a thin wire to stop herself getting crushed by a Desert Coffin...)
If Bea honestly believe Death Battle will only lose cred now before this or Buu vs. Kirby or Rogue vs. Wonder Woman, she is mistaken.
Just putting this in spoilers because...
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Deadface on July 02, 2015, 04:39:34 AM
why are people still mad about chewing gum losing to a sentient black hole
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 02, 2015, 04:42:00 AM
Because it's a universe destroying bubble gum who makes black holes into child's play. And their basis on Kirby's strength is like putting Bugs Bunny to Superman.
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I'll be the last to be called a reliable source of Naruto lore, but I have never actually seen Garra's sand move as ridiculously fast as people suggest. Be that an animation flaw or what, I dunno, but Garra didn't seem to be the kind to go for the quick kill. And their reasoning after the initial opening, well, it makes sense to me. She controls his weapons, his environment and even himself with greater ease than he does. He losses the advantage he had by not blitzing.
I think you might be looking a little too much into the pillars though, it's simply the chosen available sprites that looked nice. If you need anything more, she's a kid, kids show off, and it takes no additional effort to make than a simple large rock for her.
The wire I get, it was just rather poorly executed. Would have been better skipping it altogether and have her draw the needed elements out of the ground to make sturdy enough armor, rather than stretching a steel wire around herself.
To be honest, it seemed stretched out myself for Toph's position, she doesn't need to touch him to change his armor. As long as he's connected to the ground and it covered on it, she could have done her own sand coffin. But I suppose what they did is good enough for me.
Basically, I seem to wonder a lot why they never go for the simplest, fastest kill. Yet would likely get annoyed when their fights are too short. :P
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: hatter on July 02, 2015, 04:48:15 AM
Damn Doom owned Vader. That was hella tight.
Also, does anyone know who made those sweet Darth Vader sprites? I got a serious ArcSys vibe from them.
Also, again with Goku v. Superman??
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 02, 2015, 05:07:29 AM
It's Dan Hollandsworth's Vader. It's rather incomplete, but done well enough for this episode it seems.
You know, with a new DBZ series not yet out, and the latest movie only just out recently, it seems kinda odd to have Goku in anything until further information comes out. I thought that was a big deal for them on why they wouldn't touch Naruto or One Piece until they were done with what they were doing currently.
Spoiler: Besides, I got a better idea(click to see content)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/LlongJohnKiller/DeathBattleSoraSailorMoon_zpsgwwmtzfq.png) I got bored and bugged a friend with a bunch of these. Fun times.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on July 02, 2015, 05:11:13 AM
I know they have Unicron vs. Galactus planned... I want that instead of the so-called 'Rematch of the Century'. Everyone knows that the sequel can never top the original.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Jmorphman on July 02, 2015, 05:23:13 AM
And armor that deflects lightsabers likely is tough enough to stand lava
Well, glancing blows, it's not like the armor is totally immune to lightsabers. Likewise, I don't think the armor would survive immersion in lava either, unless he managed to get out of it really quickly!
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 02, 2015, 05:27:51 AM
You're right. It just...bugs me. They're underestimating the power of the Dark Side of the Force. You don't underestimate the power of the Dark Side of the Force! >:(
And I'm just venting on the lava, even if the suit did last long enough to dive in and out, the helmet's eyes would likely go beforehand and he'd be seeing bright lights burning into his skull.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Lunchbillion on July 02, 2015, 07:09:17 AM
Not even a fair fight... Marvel characters are ridiculous.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Knuckles8864 on July 06, 2015, 11:26:40 PM
Here's a new One Minute Melee if anyone's interested:
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on July 06, 2015, 11:51:37 PM
Just watched this one a while ago. Knew it's going to be a follow-up to one of their earlier One Minute Melees, but it's pretty nice. Kind of funny that they used Ansatsuken's sprite for Oni.
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Mali still needs to get a bit better on his fight endings. It's not worse than Ragna vs Dante, but it looks like a "Hey, what you doing up there?" before getting a Misogi. But at least Yachiru appeared at the end, so that's kinda better.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: AlexSin on July 08, 2015, 10:55:23 PM
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on July 09, 2015, 12:38:14 AM
it's mostly the other guy who does the explaining, boomstick (is that an innuendo?) just barges in to tell shitty awkward jokes in the middle of it. also, if you're gonna watch webshows then get used to seeing people missing with their voice, because after it worked for plinkett, everyone started doing it. it's stupid yes, and it's not what made plinkett funny, but you're not exactly paying to watch it, are you?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Lunchbillion on July 09, 2015, 12:52:48 AM
If you're reading this, I love you Boomstick!!!
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 09, 2015, 01:14:17 AM
I'm just going to go ahead and presume the end to One Minute Melee is going to be Shin Akuma utterly destroying the entire cast of Bleach just because. And I support this idea.
And I dunno, I like Boomstick's snark and oversimplifying data to miss the point most of the time. Best part of Ragna and Sol was Boomstick's rant.
Also this teaser was put up.
Curious if Xenoverse's little side story will be taken into account. And beyond that, if the bonus GT chapters are as well. Mixing post-BoG and GT like that will have some....odd conflicting info. Though I'd take it they'd just keep the usual Super Saiyan multipliers stacked on top of God form's boost.
I know Xenoverse sure likes to tease SSJ4 trumps SSJG. And they rather downplayed it in the previous match. Maybe we'll get that 10x Kamehameha internal explosion ending after all.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Lunchbillion on July 09, 2015, 04:02:20 AM
Is there any real way to figure out just how strong SSJG Goku is? We have no idea what the multiplier is for these transformations
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Laharl on July 09, 2015, 04:53:06 AM
Boomstick's Diarhea foot joke was pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on July 09, 2015, 08:58:36 AM
Is there any real way to figure out just how strong SSJG Goku is? We have no idea what the multiplier is for these transformations
We don't really need the powerlevels because DBZ as a whole is pretty damn simplistic in terms of how the characters stack up compared to their betters.
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At the earliest in the Saiyan Saga, Vegeta was out and out stated to be able to destroy the Earth. Later we see there are plenty of people who are as strong or far stronger than Vegeta in Namek, culminating in Frieza who was able to destroy Planet Vegeta in base form with a single shot without trying. Goku his SSJ and pretty much destroys Frieza minus the beginning when Frieza went 100%. After that, we have the Cell Saga in which 16, 17 and 18 are far more powerful than Frieza and Perfect Cell outstrips all of them and even made the boast(that was never refuted in any source) that he can destroy the Solar System after his near death and powerup. SSJ2 Gohan didn't feel afraid at all until his arm got shattered. Goku later outstrips Gohan at this state years later. Then we have Buu whose energy well has been stated to be infinite(but even Buu has no idea about that) and has done insane things like shatter a hole in a dimension and even in his weakest form can destroy planets with zero strain as if it was a walk in the park(see the first time he tried to destroy the Earth, it barely looked like he CARED, the second line while it was a flub line in the localization, still had more than enough power to destroy Earth regardless) and was stated if left alone, Kid Buu can destroy Galaxies. And now we have Beerus, who has been stated to destroy Solar Systems and stars with horrific ease and while Goku isn't stronger or even as strong, being able to atleast make him use almost 70% of his power is atleast something to a person who can possibly destroy galaxies with maybe needing some rest in the end.
Basically I would say it like this: SSJ3 Goku could have destroyed a planet by POWERING UP not because it's something stupid or anything but because Akira Toriyama is the type of guy whose simple and to the point. He works on pure ABC logic and there's nothing really there that shows he hyperbole alot of his words. Basically SSJGod Goku should be near or at Galaxy Buster AND should be a true threat to Superman simply on the virtue of "God Ki"(which has been stated to be beyond normal Ki and can easily be akin to magic).
In the end, I have no doubt Superman can still beat Goku, but my only hope is that they don't fucking lie like last time(They undersold Goku so hard)
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 09, 2015, 09:21:05 AM
The rematch reminded me recently of this (http://www.screwattack.com/news/death-battle-erred-goku-vs-superman) rebuttal to the original which I think still stands well.
Until the new series I'd figured BoG was just going to plain wipe out GT of existence, but now with the new series reworking GT plot points and the support Xenoverse's gotten, I'm now left to presume the two new god forms and any that follow will just stand as to making SSJ4 in GT that much more powerful.
While I haven't touched New 52 after its dismal reception, I can't then really say what drastic changes Superman's gone through, besides ironically picking up a move that everyone can replicate in DBZ, but I suspect if their new stats on Goku are anything like that debunk then I'm going to go with Goku being a safe bet to win. Besides, you know, bothering to make this whole rematch in the first place and have Supes win again. That's boring.
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Post by: Xhominid on July 09, 2015, 11:22:34 AM
The rematch reminded me recently of this (http://www.screwattack.com/news/death-battle-erred-goku-vs-superman) rebuttal to the original which I think still stands well.
Until the new series I'd figured BoG was just going to plain wipe out GT of existence, but now with the new series reworking GT plot points and the support Xenoverse's gotten, I'm now left to presume the two new god forms and any that follow will just stand as to making SSJ4 in GT that much more powerful.
While I haven't touched New 52 after its dismal reception, I can't then really say what drastic changes Superman's gone through, besides ironically picking up a move that everyone can replicate in DBZ, but I suspect if their new stats on Goku are anything like that debunk then I'm going to go with Goku being a safe bet to win. Besides, you know, bothering to make this whole rematch in the first place and have Supes win again. That's boring.
I'll probably watch Super to see if that is truly is the case of the reworking of GT's plot points but Xenoverse made GT into an Alternate Universe so yeah in a way, SSJ4(or atleast something that could become like it) isn't out of the realm of possibility. But again, I'm hearing alot of random things about New 52 Superman being even more powerful or he's actually far weaker or Solar Flare is a gamebreaking move or whatever... And since I can never find or get my hands on the latest comics to judge for myself, I have no idea how much stronger or weaker New 52 Superman really is.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 02:50:59 AM
Here's the stream for when the fight shows up.
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Post by: Kirishima on July 19, 2015, 03:02:55 AM
Time when it starts? Like an hour from now or so?
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 03:10:53 AM
Now, it seems.
Of course, now would be the time both the stream on my PC and Xbox die.
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Post by: Lunchbillion on July 19, 2015, 03:19:13 AM
It'll be on soon after this Q&A, it seems.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 03:21:58 AM
That balloon Goku looks like he's wearing a bunch of bananas on his head and is effectively distracting.
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Post by: Kirishima on July 19, 2015, 03:32:13 AM
Surprised there hasn't been any Mugen-related questions, sprite wise at best.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 03:36:35 AM
The thing's playing bits and pieces at 2-4 seconds long, reloading then skipping around for me, so I'm barely getting any of this. :(
Well now it loads right, but they're going on about dubbing changes.
Huh, they're standing by their previous match's outcome.
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Post by: -Whiplash- on July 19, 2015, 03:49:50 AM
ROFL LOL
Please stop now.
PLEASE.
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Superman Wins. AGAIN.
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Post by: Kirishima on July 19, 2015, 03:51:24 AM
Actually, this is very satisfying than last time.
Skit in between was kinda humorous, heh.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 03:52:25 AM
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Still sticking to the reasoning from last time? Never mind the shield.
Disappointing again.
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Post by: Zemilia on July 19, 2015, 03:54:50 AM
I like the fact that it had a more satisfying ending than "let's blow up the earth".
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I don't know, Supes saying "sorry" before finishing off Goku and carry him before he falls down kind of feels like a salute. He died again, but he did his best.
Edit: Erase that from your minds! Typo on my part.
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Post by: Kirishima on July 19, 2015, 03:57:19 AM
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Knuckles? Interesting.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 03:59:57 AM
Spoiler: So yeah, funny enough...(click to see content)
Might have to wait until the math on the god forms comes out, but I'm pretty sure the previous debunk still holds up over why Goku should win, amusingly enough.
Anyways, disappointment aside, next fight is Knuckles versus.....someone, they've stopped showing the other guy in their previews now. Dunno who's a good rival for Knuckles.
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Post by: Bea on July 19, 2015, 04:00:54 AM
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Expected... A better match up could have taken place instead of repeating that same battle. Result wouldn't change because Superman is awfully overpowered, and New 52 Superman is even worse.
Goku vs Captain Marvel would be countless times more exciting than this.
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Post by: Kirishima on July 19, 2015, 04:02:08 AM
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My guess. Someone who has appeared with a major role alongside the main character.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 04:03:44 AM
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Meh, their main reasoning is their beliefs in the basis of what each character represents rather than hard math. It's annoying, because I like both's character traits. I just don't think that should be a defining feat in a fight such as this whatsoever.
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Post by: Lunchbillion on July 19, 2015, 04:07:11 AM
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Superman's feats are far, FAR beyond anything Goku has ever accomplished. I like Goku more but this makes sense to me.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 04:09:36 AM
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With adequate charging, yes. Without, not so much. Not to mention the Usain Bolt/Bruce Lee factor, Super Dragon Punch should destroy Superman, and Goku's aura shielding.
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Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2015, 04:23:31 AM
Superman's feats are far, FAR beyond anything Goku has ever accomplished. I like Goku more but this makes sense to me.
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Has Superman been on the level of vaporizing solar systems with ease in the New 52, and then four times that ? Has N52!Superman held the power to conceptually obliterate something with a touch, and then gone above that level ?
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Post by: Lunchbillion on July 19, 2015, 04:25:51 AM
Did they outright state it was New52 Superman? Or did they just use the character design?
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Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2015, 04:27:42 AM
Dunno about this one but I'm pretty sure they did in the first, specifically because Golden/Silver Age Superman was too crazy from blowing up solar systems with a sneeze. ... Which is, ironically, what Super Perfect Cell can do (not with a sneeze, but then SSJ3 is four times more powerful than that so who cares). SSJ3 Gotenks can tear a hole between dimensions by shouting really loudly ffs. That's at least black hole-scale stuff here. I don't think anyone ever realizes what fucked up levels of power are really involved in Dragon Ball because they're never seen actually destroying stuff. Just punching each other. At best, people argue whether Broly really did or not wipe out an entire galaxy (be it at once or in a fairly short time frame).
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 04:29:50 AM
Actually, I was judging from their use of Superman from multiple time frames and storylines in their fact check at the end to mean it was another composite deal, so I'm not sure that part matters too much in this case.
...Though I suppose that's another issue to take with Screwattack.
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Post by: Xhominid on July 19, 2015, 04:30:25 AM
Superman's feats are far, FAR beyond anything Goku has ever accomplished. I like Goku more but this makes sense to me.
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Has Superman been on the level of vaporizing solar systems with ease in the New 52, and then four times that ? Has N52!Superman held the power to conceptually obliterate something with a touch, and then gone above that level ?
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This is also something that bugs me massively about New 52 Superman but from what I heard(didn't see the fight because I thought it was gonna be on Twitch), they used a composite...AGAIN. What makes it worse is that I feel that they fucked over Goku AGAIN by that BS statement I heard people say is the reason. Superman may be super OP but it's like they ignored the fuck out of Beerus's feats and the fact that Goku can make him use up to 70% of his power from when beforehand, he couldn't even take a tap to the back of the head. And Beerus can casually destroy STARS. All I feel this is going to do is piss people off even MORE rather than actually solve anything(Goku didn't need to win, they needed to be FAIR. Which is why people are getting real tired of it even counting away from Toph vs. Gaara, Majin Buu vs. Kirby and Captain America vs. Batman)
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Post by: Xhominid on July 19, 2015, 04:35:36 AM
Actually, I was judging from their use of Superman from multiple time frames and storylines in their fact check at the end to mean it was another composite deal, so I'm not sure that part matters too much in this case.
...Though I suppose that's another issue to take with Screwattack.
Except that IS a problem with judging characters correctly. No one counts Composites or Non-canon feats simply because they aren't what the character can truly do(This is one of the major reasons everyone hated Kirby vs. Majin Buu(Kirby got powerups and everything from multiple media and OVAs, including the very feat they love lauding Kirby can do as well as other blatant misinformation.) and gets annoying in other fights(Toph vs. Gaara in which Toph has her young version look yet has feats from her old granny self and Link vs. Cloud where Link is counted as every single version of Link in all his games).
It makes it utterly impossible for it to be a true fight between a character at their maximum potential when they can pull random things from other media that isn't even remotely possible for the character in canon or never proven they can do.
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Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2015, 04:42:55 AM
pull random things from other media that isn't even remotely possible for the character in canon or never proven they can do.
Which is the whole problem with Superman. People keep talking about limitless potential compared to Goku having limits he needs to break, but the fact of the matter is that we've never seen any limit to Superman's powers because he's never been involved in stuff on that scale. The only thing you should be able to say is, given what we have seen he should or not be able to do this or that. Reasonable extrapolation *based on* what has been seen is the very best you can do. And then I think the Dragon Ball cast has long passed any human concept of limits in term of destructive power anyway. They could blow up planets in the freaking Saiyan Saga. Fuck that, Muten Roshi destroyed the goddamn Moon with a Kamehameha in the Dragon Ball Saga. I think Superman is way behind in raw numbers.
... Blowing up the Earth and blowing past the speed of light is so "chapter 5 out of 783" level of power.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 04:52:24 AM
I meant that more in response to Byakko that they used New 52 Supes' design, one would presume they were using, well, New 52. Which would appear to not be the case, so it doesn't matter what New 52 can do. Which I agree with you, is wrong.
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By this point, I think it's becoming moot to those looking for a Dragonball win in Death Battle. Which is why I now presume Broly vs Hulk using EB's sprites is now likely on the way. Or maybe Magneto and Cell, Magneto can manipulate Cell's core or something.
Oh well. Maybe after the next one, they'll have more interesting combatants.
Spoiler: Personally?(click to see content)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/LlongJohnKiller/DeathBattleSesshomaruGhostRider_zpszuqpznb7.png) I like the idea behind GR's abilities becoming all but completely ineffective, would be a most interesting match up.
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Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2015, 04:55:09 AM
one would presume they were using, well, New 52. Which would appear to not be the case
Did they say anything specific in this one ? Because I'm pretty sure they were stopping at N52 in the first one, ignoring everything before the last big Crisis thingy. Again, specifically because Golden/Silver Age Superman was too crazy, being able to sneeze away solar systems (that's so crazy guys).
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Post by: lui on July 19, 2015, 04:56:24 AM
well he does have his nu52 appearance in the trailer, so.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 05:01:18 AM
That. They didn't say anything limiting them to just it, so one could presume from the trailers alone they were using the newest forms of both combatants, and one would also presume they wouldn't be mixing and matching Superman again because that was half the issue the first time.
Plus the beginning of this one they talked about the new forms specifically.
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Post by: lui on July 19, 2015, 05:15:22 AM
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welp, it doesnt matter what they chose for the forms, i pretty much knew superman was gonna win the whole time, i was mostly excited about the battle animation mostly, it looked awesome!
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Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2015, 05:16:18 AM
Oh wow, I tried checking out some comments to see how they went about it, and
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okay, man, they just really hate DBZ and idolize the whole concept of invincible Supes, don't they ? Having Goku start as SSGod by default and turning SSGSS soon enough already stunk for him, but having Kaioh drive the point into the ground to the point of being borderline insulting ? That's just spiteful denial. It's like they're yelling back at all the hatemail they got from the first one.
... okay wait, the lobotomy thing was the finishing move ? I'm pretty sure they already included it in the first pass and it wasn't good enough back then. This is just a big joke.
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Post by: lui on July 19, 2015, 05:19:51 AM
thats fans for you, they never can admit that there are scenario's in which both parties can lose and just bash the other party, its stupid really.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 05:22:26 AM
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It...kinda does matter what form they took? By all means, if they wanted to use Superman Prime alone, this discussion wouldn't be happening.
The animation was better than the previous though, yes. That lobotomy bit and ignoring the kamehameha just unnerves me to the core though. It's just not right. :(
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Post by: lui on July 19, 2015, 05:25:44 AM
i meant for goku.
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Post by: Xhominid on July 19, 2015, 05:34:03 AM
pull random things from other media that isn't even remotely possible for the character in canon or never proven they can do.
Which is the whole problem with Superman. People keep talking about limitless potential compared to Goku having limits he needs to break, but the fact of the matter is that we've never seen any limit to Superman's powers because he's never been involved in stuff on that scale. The only thing you should be able to say is, given what we have seen he should or not be able to do this or that. Reasonable extrapolation *based on* what has been seen is the very best you can do. And then I think the Dragon Ball cast has long passed any human concept of limits in term of destructive power anyway. They could blow up planets in the freaking Saiyan Saga. Fuck that, Muten Roshi destroyed the goddamn Moon with a Kamehameha in the Dragon Ball Saga. I think Superman is way behind in raw numbers.
... Blowing up the Earth and blowing past the speed of light is so "chapter 5 out of 783" level of power.
Basically. Superman is basically a massive anomaly only because people at this point have given him the Wolverine effect(basically making the character FAR more powerful because they are fans/believe he's more powerful than they believe because nostalgia blindness). And the fact that DB continuously believe that Superman is a man with no limits just makes it borderline insulting when this:
I meant that more in response to Byakko that they used New 52 Supes' design, one would presume they were using, well, New 52. Which would appear to not be the case, so it doesn't matter what New 52 can do. Which I agree with you, is wrong.
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By this point, I think it's becoming moot to those looking for a Dragonball win in Death Battle. Which is why I now presume Broly vs Hulk using EB's sprites is now likely on the way. Or maybe Magneto and Cell, Magneto can manipulate Cell's core or something.
Oh well. Maybe after the next one, they'll have more interesting combatants.
Spoiler: Personally?(click to see content)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/LlongJohnKiller/DeathBattleSesshomaruGhostRider_zpszuqpznb7.png) I like the idea behind GR's abilities becoming all but completely ineffective, would be a most interesting match up.
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Sesshoumaru would probably lose to Ghost Rider because Ghost Rider has some insane feats especially if they go the composite route(He freaking Penance Stare'd GALACTUS!). But again, I barely know Ghost Rider's feats in comics so...
It...kinda does matter what form they took? By all means, if they wanted to use Superman Prime alone, this discussion wouldn't be happening.
The animation was better than the previous though, yes. That lobotomy bit and ignoring the kamehameha just unnerves me to the core though. It's just not right. :(
You wanna know the absolute worst part:
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According to the Screwattack forums they did it to specifically make Superman look better in all respects due to the fact GOKU was endangering the planet but not calling off that Kamehameha(which is absolutely out of character for Goku, especially since he did that to FOOL Cell and IT to him and blew him away). So basically Superman puts down a rabid Goku...how swell.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 05:43:58 AM
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Oh, I'm not an expert on either Sesshomaru or Ghost Rider. My basic understanding though is by the end of InuYasha, Sesshomaru has unlocked his full god demon power. And before then, his pure godly composition granted complete immunity to magic or divine effects. Basically, it'd be a match of Ghost Rider ironically commenting how this low dog demon is immune to all his powers. Find some way to overcome that or find another solution.
Personally I'm in the Sesshomaru side there, it'd be a fun match either way and more interesting that most other suggestions I see going around.
But man, that last spoiler just makes me sad now.
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Post by: Xhominid on July 19, 2015, 05:54:05 AM
Oh, I'm not an expert on either Sesshomaru or Ghost Rider. My basic understanding though is by the end of InuYasha, Sesshomaru has unlocked his full god demon power. And before then, his pure godly composition granted complete immunity to magic or divine effects. Basically, it'd be a match of Ghost Rider ironically commenting how this low dog demon is immune to all his powers. Find some way to overcome that or find another solution.
Personally I'm in the Sesshomaru side there, it'd be a fun match either way and more interesting that most other suggestions I see going around.
But man, that last spoiler just makes me sad now.
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Well Sesshoumaru DID get a broken ass ability in the series' end, especially if they go with composites(Meidou Zangetsuha sends you straight to hell and Bakusaiga is basically a super-virus on absolute acid) along with his Tenseiga, but I'm not 100% sure on how powerful or strong Ghost Rider truly is...
And yeah, hearing that from the ScrewAttack forums pissed me off something fierce(So in addressing the final clash from the first battle in how Superman and Goku was OOC for destroying the Earth...they make Goku OOC and Superman killing him into a Mercy Kill). And from again what I'm hearing of the Screwattack forums, they are actually using the Superman Infinite Strength as an actual feat to stop anymore rematches...my fucking god.)
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Post by: Thojoewhit on July 19, 2015, 05:59:09 AM
I don't let this bother me to be honest.
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Because I like both sups and goku regardless. Although getting facts wrong on both sides does bug me. :blank: Anyway I go to screwattack for the top 10s :D
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Post by: Xhominid on July 19, 2015, 06:07:41 AM
Because I like both sups and goku regardless. Although getting facts wrong on both sides does bug me. :blank: Anyway I go to screwattack for the top 10s :D
Same for me:
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I don't hate Superman for winning or Goku losing(I KNEW it was going to happen), it was the sheer fact that their "facts" was again absolute shit and they AGAIN went in with Superman being a man with no limits(which is bullshit as that's the point of Clark, he WANTS to help everyone but he cannot) and the fucking cherry on the sunday is making it seem like Goku was a mad dog Superman had to put down just kills any real care that could have made me watch the video. All it really shows is that Death Battle is pretty much a hackjob and should be rated even lower than most fan videos(because atleast they TRY)
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 06:18:34 AM
At this point, it's more interesting to discuss possible matches personally.
Spoiler: And waste time making these posters(click to see content)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/LlongJohnKiller/DeathBattleMarinaArale_zpshvgzzkzq.png) Because gag powers and breaking the laws of physics is a common feature among android maid children.
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Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on July 19, 2015, 06:23:27 AM
Urgh and this is why I only have such debates about who would win agaisnt who with Nasuverse characters. This battle was even more biaised than the previous one.
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Post by: Xhominid on July 19, 2015, 06:26:05 AM
At this point, it's more interesting to discuss possible matches personally.
Spoiler: And waste time making these posters(click to see content)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/LlongJohnKiller/DeathBattleMarinaArale_zpshvgzzkzq.png) Because gag powers and breaking the laws of physics is a common feature among android maid children.
Urgh and this is why I only have such debates about who would win agaisnt who with Nasuverse characters. This battle was even more biaised than the previous one.
And definitely pretty much.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 06:36:37 AM
Now I'm trying to find what series they've yet to cover but should, and I can't quite figure the right rival for Jean-Luc Picard and the Enterprise. I'd be somewhat curious to see their take on Star Trek, given the many scientific reviews the series as a whole has garnered over the years. And there's enough Star Wars as is.
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Post by: Seadragon77 on July 19, 2015, 04:22:52 PM
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Watching the battle, it makes sense. How can one beat someone whose limits are limitless? It's not possible. No matter what level of Goku can reach in the near future, the writers for Superman can (and will) easily surpass that. I wish this ends the argument, but it won't. Too many spoiled ass DBZ fans out there to let it go
Now that Knuckles is announced... it has me thinking. We had Mario vs. Sonic, and then Luigi vs. Tails... why not Knuckles vs. Wario. Strength vs. strength.
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Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2015, 04:31:59 PM
Oh look, another "limitless" argument.
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Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 19, 2015, 04:41:11 PM
At least the fight looked kinda cool I guess.
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Post by: 地獄の花 on July 19, 2015, 05:35:58 PM
well that was a good deathbattle. superman is overpowered and boring and that super flare thing is not needed and unpractical to use if he can fucking one shot a planet with his fist why use an attack that would leave you vulnerable after? he's physical strength alone can end the galaxy it could've been acceptable if he ain't ridiculously powerful already.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 05:46:53 PM
But planet-busting punches aren't anything new to DBZ? Pretty sure Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku were throwing those like it was going out of style.
I still side with the debunk. Superman's a battery, and not always at full charge. He doesn't do all these feats on the turn of a dime.
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Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2015, 05:57:12 PM
But planet-busting punches aren't anything new to DBZ? Pretty sure Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku were throwing those like it was going out of style.
Yes, and Freeza survived the explosion of a planet at point blank after being cut in half and having parts of his body vaporized. And still, SSJ Trunks cut him to pieces and fully vaporized him after Freeza was rebuilt and reinforced. And then the Androids blocked and shattered like it was nothing the same sword that cut Freeza (who tanked an exploding planet) in pieces. and then.... and after that..... and still later....... Again, people saying "but Supes can do this and that" don't understand that the scale of power involved in DBZ is way beyond anything conceivable, because all we ever see them do is punch each other rather than actually destroying stuff.
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Post by: Xhominid on July 19, 2015, 06:10:43 PM
Can we seriously get JMorphman in here or someone with some experience reading Superman comics that can debunk the dumb "limitless" arguments? Because doesn't him needing to sundip to do some of his biggest feats or him even getting knocked out kinda destroys the whole "limitless" schtick?
But planet-busting punches aren't anything new to DBZ? Pretty sure Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku were throwing those like it was going out of style.
Yes, and Freeza survived the explosion of a planet at point blank after being cut in half and having parts of his body vaporized. And still, SSJ Trunks cut him to pieces and fully vaporized him after Freeza was rebuilt and reinforced. And then the Androids blocked and shattered like it was nothing the same sword that cut Freeza (who tanked an exploding planet) in pieces. and then.... and after that..... and still later....... Again, people saying "but Supes can do this and that" don't understand that the scale of power involved in DBZ is way beyond anything conceivable, because all we ever see them do is punch each other rather than actually destroying stuff.
Okay I'll debunk one part: Trunk's sword... is just a normal sword. The scene with him and King Cold and later with Goku actually proves that K enhancement means FAR more than any weapon(Trunks no sells King Cold trying to slice him and then Goku was able to block his sword with a finger by simply enhancing his Ki to the same durability. Otherwise you are still correct in your theory that Trunks can pretty much slice Frieza WITH HIS OWN HANDS pretty much.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 19, 2015, 06:23:51 PM
Can we seriously get JMorphman in here or someone with some experience reading Superman comics that can debunk the dumb "limitless" arguments? Because doesn't him needing to sundip to do some of his biggest feats or him even getting knocked out kinda destroys the whole "limitless" schtick?
Okay I'll Try, as a fan of both DBZ (I've watched and read everything DBZ) and Superman.
Superman DOES have Limitless Potential.
But he'd only get there if he stuck around in the sun for a million years.
Anyway regardless let's go over some of the stuff people have said here:
"Frieza tanked a planet explosion!"
If you call not dying to a planet explosion "Tanking"
Superman (I will only be using post Crisis because that's the best one) Survived a Star Exploding (though it DID knock him out, then again Kid Buu's Ki Blast that blew up the earth (and ONLY THE EARTH) was enough to kill Mystic Gohan, who was Stronger then SUPER BUU)), being Punched through a planet and "15 Supernovas to the face" Though I call BULLSHIT there.
"Something about Goku being Faster then the Speed of Light"
Can I have proof of this? He's faster then your eyes can detect, sure, but we only see at like 150 Fps, so it they were moving any faster then that... it would be easy to miss. not to mention superman can Fly at over 1 MILLION TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Goku, on the other hand, actually takes time to get anywhere.
"Goku (or X person) can blow up the planet with their punches!"
Again, proof of this? I've never ever seen anyone in DBZ blow up planets with their fists. They always use Ki blasts. I'm sure if Superman had Ki Blasts he could blow up planets too (I mean he does it with his fists) but he doesn't have them.
Honestly, I don't really care who wins but seriously guys why are you so damn mad about this, this is Screwattack. The same people that said Super Mario Sunshine had no Gimmicks.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 06:28:17 PM
Trunk's sword... is just a normal sword. The scene with him and King Cold and later with Goku actually proves that K enhancement means FAR more than any weapon(Trunks no sells King Cold trying to slice him and then Goku was able to block his sword with a finger by simply enhancing his Ki to the same durability. Otherwise you are still correct in your theory that Trunks can pretty much slice Frieza WITH HIS OWN HANDS pretty much.
The rematch reminded me recently of this (http://www.screwattack.com/news/death-battle-erred-goku-vs-superman) rebuttal to the original which I think still stands well.
then again Kid Buu's Ki Blast that blew up the earth (and ONLY THE EARTH) was enough to kill Mystic Gohan, who was Stronger then SUPER BUU))
An unconscious Gohan. They need to have their ki up and running and actually put up a shield for any of this to matter. Though I believe it might be filler, SSJ Goku getting pelted by Krillin with a rock when he was napping would be a good example.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2015, 06:29:29 PM
I agree that the sword itself is a normal sword and that the ki enhancement did the whole job, but the point is that Trunks used that method to slice apart someone who was able to tank through an exploding planet while being already severely diminished (yes, tank, he boasted it wouldn't do a thing to him and then his mecha form seemed to have damage received mostly from the last Kamehameha than the exploding planet). And he used the same method on #18, and the sword shattered on her arm. You're right that the sword itself is irrelevant, I'm just talking about what he could do and what the androids could do. I just took a shortcut.
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then again Kid Buu's Ki Blast that blew up the earth (and ONLY THE EARTH) was enough to kill Mystic Gohan, who was Stronger then SUPER BUU))
A knocked out Gohan. The guys in DBZ have a pretty normal body, like Xhom said, the important thing is that they enhance their defense with their ki, and that ki is enough to destroy a planet or tank planet-shattering punches. Just not while they're knocked out.
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Again, proof of this? I never ever seen anyone in DBZ blow up planets with their fist.
Coincidentally, Dragon Ball Super chapter 2 just a few days ago had SSJ3 Goku blow through King Kai's planet with a punch. King Kai's planet which has a gravity ten times that of Earth while being the size of a building. Which is not that far from a black hole (which would be, for the mass -and gravity- of Earth, the size of a marble). And Bills could block those punches with ease and knock out Goku with a snap, and then Goku in SSJ God form reached about 70% of Bills' power in the movie. Speaking of the movie, the same SSJ3 Goku punch in that version shaved off a part of King Kai's very same planet. What's that about planet busting punches ?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on July 19, 2015, 06:34:25 PM
I have been reading Superman for around 30 years. He has limitless potential as -Whiplash- said, and without sun diping he vaporized a planet with his heat vision, lifted almost 6 sextillion tons, survived a supernova in the face, was sandwiched between two planets, held a black hole in his hand among worse. He can tank a whole lot of stuff, and is incredibly broken and op.
But he gets knocked around a fair bit because in the DC Universe, non sun dipped Superman is mid tier. There are some really scary stuff out there.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2015, 06:37:05 PM
And SSJ3 Gotenks rips a hole between dimensions by shouting really loudly (something Super Buu barely could do himself when he was really mad), a feat that we barely think a black hole could do. So ? DBZ really has much more crazy stuff than that.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 19, 2015, 06:42:55 PM
then again Kid Buu's Ki Blast that blew up the earth (and ONLY THE EARTH) was enough to kill Mystic Gohan, who was Stronger then SUPER BUU))
A knocked out Gohan. The guys in DBZ have a pretty normal body, like Xhom said, the important thing is that they enhance their defense with their ki, and that ki is enough to destroy a planet or tank planet-shattering punches. Just not while they're knocked out.
K that makes sense. But Frieza said he "he had no energy" or whatever, so I figure he was in worse off shape then Gohan. But maybe Frieza's anatomy is good enough that he has the durability to survive exploding planets? Regardless, Superman can too, so it's really a non-issue. no one ever said Goku can't HURT Superman.
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Coincidentally, Dragon Ball Super chapter 2 just a few days ago had SSJ3 Goku blow through King Kai's planet with a punch. King Kai's planet which has a gravity ten times that of Earth while being the size of a building. Which is not that far from a black hole (which would be, for the mass -and gravity- of Earth, the size of a marble).
And SSJ3 Gotenks rips a hole between dimensions by shouting really loudly (something Super Buu barely could do himself when he was really mad), a feat that we barely think a black hole could do. So ? DBZ really has much more crazy stuff than that.
You Know Superboy-Prime Broke through Reality by PUNCHING it Right?
Admittedly a pre-Crisis Version of Superman but based on his Fight with Superman, Super Girl and Power Girl I guess he`s like 3 times more powerful then Post Crisis superman?
The Problem with this Debate is that Superman's Feats very from Author to Author, (Which is annoying) but more so without Ki enhancements or Blasts, it's hard to Gauge his power accurately to a DBZ Character cause he can't shoot epic planet busting lasers.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on July 19, 2015, 06:44:12 PM
Funny, The Flash does the same by running really fast. And he can send people through other dimensions using the same principle.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 19, 2015, 06:48:25 PM
But Frieza said he "he had no energy" or whatever, so I figure he was in worse off shape then Gohan. But maybe Frieza's anatomy is good enough that he has the durability to survive exploding planets?
Can't Frieza breathe in space anyways.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 19, 2015, 06:50:06 PM
But Frieza said he "he had no energy" or whatever, so I figure he was in worse off shape then Gohan. But maybe Frieza's anatomy is good enough that he has the durability to survive exploding planets?
Can't Frieza breathe in space anyways.
Well yeah but I mean breathing space has nothing to do with living though an explosion, which is the point here.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2015, 07:19:33 PM
But Frieza said he "he had no energy" or whatever, so I figure he was in worse off shape then Gohan.
The little energy he had was enough to survive the explosion, and Gohan probably had more energy but the point is that he wasn't conscious to use it and shield his body.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on July 19, 2015, 07:40:08 PM
But Frieza said he "he had no energy" or whatever, so I figure he was in worse off shape then Gohan.
The little energy he had was enough to survive the explosion, and Gohan probably had more energy but the point is that he wasn't conscious to use it and shield his body.
Also Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta died when Freeza blew up Earth on that last OAV, while Freeza survived, from what I recall.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 08:04:11 PM
So much for spoilers.
Yeah, that last bit I can't quite understand, but I've seen it without subtitles so I only got what's shown. For all sakes and purposes, Vegeta should have lived through any planetary explosion, but the lack of oxygen afterwords is another deal. Though then we go back to BoG where look at that, god form no longer needs oxygen. But then, Goku went to the moon anyways as a kid. Someone slipped up in fact checking somewhere on Saiyans in space, and its been confusingly contradictory ever since.
Re-reading through that debunk leaves me wondering if they viewed any of the counter-arguements when doing the rematch now. :-\
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on July 19, 2015, 08:53:27 PM
K that makes sense. But Frieza said he "he had no energy" or whatever, so I figure he was in worse off shape then Gohan. But maybe Frieza's anatomy is good enough that he has the durability to survive exploding planets? Regardless, Superman can too, so it's really a non-issue. no one ever said Goku can't HURT Superman.
Yes, Frieza's race is pretty damn durable and pretty damn powerful(his race can survive the vacuum of space since birth, it's not a Frieza thing). You also have to remember that Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga had enough power to destroy the planet and he was like 18K? Frieza in his weakest form is still beyond Vegeta in that scale and it's unknown if he was knocked unconscious compared to Gohan to still live after the planet exploded(Goku's Kamehameha still did damage to Frieza's face).
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You Know Superboy-Prime Broke through Reality by PUNCHING it Right?
Why are we using what's basically supposed to be Pre-Crisis Superman(As Superboy Prime is supposed to be that)?
Also Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta died when Freeza blew up Earth on that last OAV, while Freeza survived, from what I recall.
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The explosion of a planet is NEVER the actual issue, it's space that's the issue(Frieza outright stated this to Goku when he set off the core to Namek, Goku can definitely shrug off a planetary explosion but not the vacuum). And anyway, I believe that us not seeing SSGSSJ Vegeta suffocating was just for dramatic effect(Or Golden Frieza packed in WAY more energy to destroy Earth AND kill Vegeta...)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 08:58:42 PM
I thought Frieza's golden form ran out by then. Granted his previous "final form" would be redonkulously strong, if his new first form one-shots Gohan, but not to blue haired Vegeta levels.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on July 19, 2015, 09:10:36 PM
I thought Frieza's golden form ran out by then. Granted his previous "final form" would be redonkulously strong, if his new first form one-shots Gohan, but not to blue haired Vegeta levels.
It did honestly. That's why I said if he had probably had to pack in way more power than he had(Since his main issue again with his Golden form is that he didn't train his body to handle the extreme output).
That's why I also stated that they most likely didn't put in Vegeta suffocating and instead having him get blown up too for dramatic effect(Since I believe Whis was more trying to get to get to Goku about his hubris)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 19, 2015, 09:29:37 PM
Then I misread that, thought you meant that final form Frieza had a bigger attack that Golden Frieza did.
By the way, the video's up separate from the stream now, for those catching in late.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sima Shi on July 20, 2015, 04:55:08 AM
meh after seeing le vid still a fucking bias... or one sided fight...
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Laharl on July 20, 2015, 07:31:50 AM
I would like a toph vs gaara rematch cause that fight was really dumb. that was Kazekage gaara they downplayed his real ability and made up dumb facts about his sand. Toph would not of stood a damn chance. They failed to mention Gaara stood up to Madara for a good while who was dropping fucking METEORS on him.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 20, 2015, 07:40:01 AM
Yeah, that one I'm also curious on, but for the opposite side. Where did they get the idea that Toph was required to touch Garra to kill him? He wears earth around him, she can kill him with but a thought. But more detail on Garra would be good to know as well.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Laharl on July 20, 2015, 08:12:21 AM
actually nobody can control his sand but him as its actually his mothers soul. Its a long story to explain lol. basically his mom is always protecting him with that sand, he can move it but it moves on its own as well she couldn't be manipulated by toph period. Everytime it shields him its not gaara controlling it its his mom protecting him all by herself.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 20, 2015, 08:21:30 AM
Why does it being his mother's soul prevent Toph from using it? Different techniques in control, one being telepathic the other spiritual. Perhaps some resistant force, but nothing someone that can move cities can't overcome.
The fact that Garra can move it actually seems to help prove that Toph could as well, it's not completely uncontrollable. It's just dirt with a the equivalent of a protective spell over it. Or maybe that's exactly what it is, I dunno, Naruto confuses me.
Oh, and wait, the sand armor he wears is separate from the whole "mother sand" thing, so it's a moot point anyways. She can use that.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on July 20, 2015, 09:31:30 AM
Why does it being his mother's soul prevent Toph from using it? Different techniques in control, one being telepathic the other spiritual. Perhaps some resistant force, but nothing someone that can move cities can't overcome.
It's the exact reason why Water Benders need so much just to Blood Bend: They cannot control something that has life or chi or whatever flowing through it that can fight back so to speak.
Gaara's mother's soul is the perfect thing that stops Toph from pulling anything off of that sort at all, even if she could somehow turn his sand against him even if he's controlling it. And besides, he DOES NOT have his Sand Armor up all the time, it's literally for emergencies and Toph would never get him to that state, let alone be able to easily one shot him as they say she can...
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Laharl on July 20, 2015, 09:11:16 PM
I love you for explaining that better than I ever could. That pretty much sums up what I meant.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Jmorphman on July 21, 2015, 05:30:16 AM
I have only a limited amount of knowledge of non-Beast Wars Transformers stuff but it seems like most of them would be more maneuverable than a great number of mobile suits; even if their weaponry couldn't get through luna titanium at first, they'd eventually be able to wear it down (just like even a Zaku machine gun would eventually be able to wear it down, theoretically). And I'm also assuming Newtype precognition and what not wouldn't work when facing off against an alien life form, especially since they're fully mechanical!
I think you'd have to go up to the big guns to start getting an even match up (so, no RX-78-2, but maybe the V2, God, the crazier Wing and SEED suits, and so on). I can't imagine there'd be a lot of Transformers that could stand up to the Turn A, though!
Can we seriously get JMorphman in here or someone with some experience reading Superman comics that can debunk the dumb "limitless" arguments? Because doesn't him needing to sundip to do some of his biggest feats or him even getting knocked out kinda destroys the whole "limitless" schtick?
I mean... I dunno, I'm not sure I would describe Superman as being totally limitless, always, but it also kind of feels like it's part of his entire concept? But simultaneously, he's clearly not omnipotent, he can't solve every single problem with his powers? I'm not really sure how to phrase this, and it's made especially difficult because there's so many different interpretations and visions of Superman, and this whole limitless concept applies differently to each one.
Like, take the Silver Age Superman, we all know how much absolutely fucking insane stuff he could do. I'm borrowing heavily from Glen Weldon's excellent Superman: The Unauthorized Biography (http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Unauthorized-Biography-Glen-Weldon/dp/1118341848) here, but there's almost an undercurrent, never quite made explicit, that Superman is so absurdly powerful that he's basically solved crime(!?). There's no muggers in Metropolis, petty crime has essentially ended. The only thing threatening the fine citizens of Metropolis are bizarre supervillain plots and the ever present threat of freak meteor showers and the like. So instead, Superman's got a lot of free time, and he spends a huge amount of that teaching his friends and loved ones bizarre and incredibly harsh "lessons" (and thus, the fabled, not really accurate label of Superdickery).
More recently, there have been a number of takes on the character that highlight those limits, some Superman is put in situations where he can't save everyone: some good (the Eisner winning Hitman #34), some bad (Man of Steel). But that's not exactly new, either, even Silver Age Superman couldn't save his adopted parents, the Kents (although that was because they were infected by an ancient and deadly virus from a pirate treasure chest). So there's definitely always been an aspect of Superman that he's not omnipotent, he can't solve every problem, but at the same time, there's an equally important (if not moreso) aspect of Superman that he will always, always try his hardest to push past any limitation, always striving, and 99% of the time succeeding in saving everyone.
so uh yeah I guess I kinda feel like both "Superman will overcome any limitation" and "even Superman has limitations" are both equally valid aspects of the character, somehow? I'm not really sure how that would apply to this Death Battle, though!
well that was a good deathbattle. superman is overpowered and boring
I thought you were talking about Superman, not Goku :)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Thagr8test on July 21, 2015, 05:43:34 AM
there are few things sweeter than the tears of a fanboy :twisted:
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 21, 2015, 06:06:10 AM
The point was to be the faces of Transformers and Gundam. RX-78-2 is THE Gundam, and who doesn't know Optimus Prime? Though he's kinda Space Robot Jesus, I didn't expect it to be an entirely fair fight (I mean, I think you can ground him if sticking to G1 alone, ignoring comics, High Moon or Devestation. I don't think he had the ability to fly there).
I'm not sure I would describe Superman as being totally limitless, always
Therein lies the problem with Death Battle's view on it. They want them both at the max they could be, rather than as they are. I'm starting to feel a bit like a record, but that debunk from the last match feels like it would be the right way to take Superman as he is normally.
As for Garra and bloodbending, I thought the issue there was that it was organic, it was a physical part of their body. Ghost sand....isn't? It's mixing concepts of science and spiritual magic that don't make sense! It's like, I dunno, arguing who controls Lion-O's Sword of Omens better, him or Magneto.
But the sand armor not being up seems silly, of course he would have it up in a fight. He's an important political figure, and runs on the motto of a good defense being the best offensive. Does it actually say in the manga that he chooses to not use it in fights that could cost him his life?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on July 21, 2015, 06:44:48 AM
Why does it being his mother's soul prevent Toph from using it? Different techniques in control, one being telepathic the other spiritual. Perhaps some resistant force, but nothing someone that can move cities can't overcome.
It's the exact reason why Water Benders need so much just to Blood Bend: They cannot control something that has life or chi or whatever flowing through it that can fight back so to speak.
Gaara's mother's soul is the perfect thing that stops Toph from pulling anything off of that sort at all, even if she could somehow turn his sand against him even if he's controlling it. And besides, he DOES NOT have his Sand Armor up all the time, it's literally for emergencies and Toph would never get him to that state, let alone be able to easily one shot him as they say she can...
amon can water bend anyone without even doing any stance or a full moon.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on July 21, 2015, 06:50:24 AM
Why does it being his mother's soul prevent Toph from using it? Different techniques in control, one being telepathic the other spiritual. Perhaps some resistant force, but nothing someone that can move cities can't overcome.
It's the exact reason why Water Benders need so much just to Blood Bend: They cannot control something that has life or chi or whatever flowing through it that can fight back so to speak.
Gaara's mother's soul is the perfect thing that stops Toph from pulling anything off of that sort at all, even if she could somehow turn his sand against him even if he's controlling it. And besides, he DOES NOT have his Sand Armor up all the time, it's literally for emergencies and Toph would never get him to that state, let alone be able to easily one shot him as they say she can...
amon can water bend anyone without even doing any stance or a full moon.
Well he's an anomaly(never watched Korra but I do know he's a Blood Bender) but in the original series, the practitioner needed a certain stance and a full moon to do Blood Bending and tried teaching Katara it.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on July 21, 2015, 07:10:19 AM
well you're probably right his father and brother could blood bend too even without the full moon but they still do stances and amon has a precise control over his power he can even counter other blood benders with him bending his own body.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 28, 2015, 03:45:38 AM
Moving on from Goku V Superman: Lies & Slander, there's a new One Minute Melee. Rather odd choice, too.
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I got excited for a minute that I'd missed some worthwhile sprites for Lightning somewhere. The model for her armor looks wrong.
I'm conflicted, Wonder Woman needs a win eventually, but Lightning killed God and can just remove her from existence.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Neo_Fire_Sonic on July 29, 2015, 07:20:01 AM
They said superman is weak to someone with "magic" weird huh.......
also they should make this a real death battle. (http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/deathbattle/images/d/d8/Sonic_VS_Lilac.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/650?cb=20141220145231)
I don't care who wins, because it would probably be interesting to watch, even though without a doubt sonic might just pull out the chaos emeralds and go super lol
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on July 29, 2015, 11:40:17 AM
who's the other one.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 29, 2015, 11:53:56 PM
Well, now we know who's going against Knuckles.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Neo_Fire_Sonic on July 30, 2015, 12:41:22 AM
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on August 10, 2015, 04:08:12 PM
New One Minute Melee
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Kenshiro teased on the character select screen...
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: hatter on August 10, 2015, 09:33:01 PM
Saw that one, totally epic.
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It seems to be a continuation of the Ryu and Scorpion Death Battle, seeing that Ken made an appearance/
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on August 11, 2015, 04:22:18 AM
Hm, being in One Minute Melee seems to have a tendancy to make them avoid the characters in future Death Battles. And I was legitimately getting curious how Sesshomaru would fair with all his wards against Ghost Rider, too.
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Um, Scorpion doesn't have actual eyes...I mean, yeah, he has that fake magically conjured mask of his, but I don't think that counts...
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 12, 2015, 05:34:34 PM
So the battle came out and are those fucking AxKeeper's sprites for Donkey Kong.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Titiln on August 12, 2015, 05:50:48 PM
i'm surprised they managed to make something pretty decent from those sprites
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Post by: Thagr8test on August 12, 2015, 06:07:47 PM
This one was a bore looking forward to wolverine though
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Knuckles8864 on August 12, 2015, 06:13:51 PM
I loved the humor in this Death Battle.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: walt on August 12, 2015, 06:17:39 PM
So the battle came out and are those fucking AxKeeper's sprites for Donkey Kong.
(http://i.imgur.com/EWnOAQQ.png)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 12, 2015, 06:18:41 PM
Chill it was a rhetorical question. :U
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on August 12, 2015, 06:21:50 PM
yeah there was alot of moving around and not so much fighting and knuckles' "oh no" was so annoying lol. anyways, i think wolverine is gonna fight Claw Vega. because claws, and they showed a SFII cabinet at the end.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: hatter on August 12, 2015, 07:06:17 PM
As much as I hated those Axkeeper sprites for DK, I loved the outcome. That and DK won, so eat that those who thought Knux would win (does the Ted Bear ass wiggle jutsu (https://youtu.be/k0WbP2uLJPo?t=1m47s) :P)
The "Oh no" loop was annoying, couldn't they have used betters sounds for Knuckles though.
Also, definitely Wolverine vs. Vega, and we don't need a Death Battle segment to know the outcome of THAT battle. :smartass2:
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on August 12, 2015, 08:58:22 PM
If they do Wolverine vs Vega, it will be an almost one sided fight as the Wolverine vs Wonder Woman that Super Power Beat Down is filming. Except Wolvie will destroy Vega, and he should be totally obliterated by Wondy, but he will win there because Super Power Beat Down comes down to a popularity context. And Bat in the Sun is claiming that they only pair fighters of similar power in their shorts. Yeah, like Vader and Batman and Wondy and Wolverine...
I do hope Death Battle comes up with a more fitting opponent for Wolvie.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Lunchbillion on August 13, 2015, 01:25:07 AM
I don't like how they drew information from sources other than the video games and how they equated the game Knuckles with Boom Knuckles etc, but the fight was really fun and well executed so that made up for it. Definitely one of the better sprite-based battles they've done. I dunno if it's a perfect record of who would really win in a fight but definitely entertaining.
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Post by: Seadragon77 on August 13, 2015, 01:44:12 AM
If they do Wolverine vs Vega, it will be an almost one sided fight as the Wolverine vs Wonder Woman that Super Power Beat Down is filming. Except Wolvie will destroy Vega, and he should be totally obliterated by Wondy, but he will win there because Super Power Beat Down comes down to a popularity context. And Bat in the Sun is claiming that they only pair fighters of similar power in their shorts. Yeah, like Vader and Batman and Wondy and Wolverine...
I do hope Death Battle comes up with a more fitting opponent for Wolvie.
The only other guy I could think of to face Wolverine off the of my head is Gen-An Shiranui of Samurai Shodown. He's got a claw weapon as well... Who knows.
As for the last battle: I liked it. I liked that they used the cartoons as part of the research (especially Sonic Boom's version of Knuckles.. he's worth the laughs) and the fight was a good one. I just think that the 'Oh No' bit did get a little overdone... but, that's just me.
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Post by: Lunchbillion on August 13, 2015, 01:55:48 AM
I thought the "oh no" thing was a pretty clever callback to Sonic Adventure, as he says that every time he takes damage in his boss fight with Sonic. It amused me at least
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Post by: hatter on August 13, 2015, 01:57:57 AM
I thought the "oh no" thing was a pretty clever callback to Sonic Adventure, as he says that every time he takes damage in his boss fight with Sonic. It amused me at least
It was pretty hilarious at first, but the overuse of that sound made it overkill.
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Post by: Zemilia on August 13, 2015, 01:59:08 AM
Idk, I got pretty annoyed at the overuse of "Oh no". Should have used other voiceclips rather than "Oh nos" too many times.
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And a better one for his death.
Now for who Wolverine will fight.. I'm going with either Vega (another claw man, even though he has only one where Wolverine has 2), or maybe someone from DC, but idk who's faster and as brutal as Wolverine on the DC side.
Edit: Forgot to mention that I love how they used Ax's sprite for DK, despite how limited it is.
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Post by: Gennos on August 13, 2015, 02:01:54 AM
how about Lobo? i know he's a parody of wolvie, but they did Deadpool and he was a parody too. and he's just as tough as him when to comes to powers and healing too.
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Post by: Xhominid on August 13, 2015, 03:27:24 AM
From what I heard in the Screwattack forums...
It seems Raiden(MGR fame) will be Wolverine's opponent..and that wouldn't be fair to Raiden...Wolverine won't last 10 seconds.
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Post by: Jmorphman on August 13, 2015, 05:28:44 AM
Even if you give Wolverine some of his more ridiculous healing factor feats (like the time he came back from having literally all the flesh atomized off his bones), there's absolutely no way he'd be able to win. There's literally nothing he can do against Raiden, dude's absurdly fast and crazy strong. Those adamantium claws could cut through Raiden's body and his fancy swords, but the only way that would happen is if Raiden literally did nothing. It just doesn't seem like a fun fight.
how about Lobo? i know he's a parody of wolvie, but they did Deadpool and he was a parody too. and he's just as tough as him when to comes to powers and healing too.
Lobo is roughly in Superman's weight class. Wolverine doesn't have a prayer.
... that said, they have fought before, in a DC/Marvel crossover series that had their various characters fight each other for a vague and stupid reason. The results were determined through a fan vote, so the most popular character won, and for the Wolverine/Lobo fight, that meant Wolverine (who is a normal human, aside from the enhanced senses, unbreakable metal skeleton and claws, and a healing factor) somehow managed to defeat Lobo (a space alien who not only can stand toe-to-toe with Superman, but has a vastly superior healing factor that can even revive him from a drop of blood!!!). All offscreen. (http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2015/03/26/the-wrong-side-lobo-vs-wolverine/)
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Post by: Xhominid on August 13, 2015, 09:16:55 AM
Even if you give Wolverine some of his more ridiculous healing factor feats (like the time he came back from having literally all the flesh atomized off his bones), there's absolutely no way he'd be able to win. There's literally nothing he can do against Raiden, dude's absurdly fast and crazy strong. Those adamantium claws could cut through Raiden's body and his fancy swords, but the only way that would happen is if Raiden literally did nothing. It just doesn't seem like a fun fight.
how about Lobo? i know he's a parody of wolvie, but they did Deadpool and he was a parody too. and he's just as tough as him when to comes to powers and healing too.
Lobo is roughly in Superman's weight class. Wolverine doesn't have a prayer.
... that said, they have fought before, in a DC/Marvel crossover series that had their various characters fight each other for a vague and stupid reason. The results were determined through a fan vote, so the most popular character won, and for the Wolverine/Lobo fight, that meant Wolverine (who is a normal human, aside from the enhanced senses, unbreakable metal skeleton and claws, and a healing factor) somehow managed to defeat Lobo (a space alien who not only can stand toe-to-toe with Superman, but has a vastly superior healing factor that can even revive him from a drop of blood!!!). All offscreen. (http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2015/03/26/the-wrong-side-lobo-vs-wolverine/)
Even the writers knew that Wolverine winning was pure BS, so on top of that, they had Professor X somehow pay Lobo to take a dive as an alibi.
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Post by: Long John Killer on August 14, 2015, 02:44:08 AM
The streak of matches I don't agree with continues I guess. Weird choice in sprites, but as already said they did good with them.
I don't know much on Raiden, besides he has a mechanical body, cuts up watermelon and I thought he was a woman for the longest time. Won't claim to be a Wolverine buff either, but I if I recall correctly nothing can harm those adamantium bones of his beyond more adamantium, a stronger metal or cosmic powers (Unless you count Magneto bending the rules by pulling it out). Does Raiden have something tougher than the supposed strongest natural metal in the universe or godly magic abilities I don't know?
Because Metal Gear goes to some strange places, I wouldn't be surprised. But if not...it's nothing but of matter of time. Raiden expends energy, Wolverine comes back from anything, kills Raiden when he's worn out.
Also I can't update the first post with the new fight, computer's dead. Just got the Xbox to browse. :(
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Post by: Jmorphman on August 14, 2015, 02:58:41 AM
Raiden's newest robot body is crazy strong and pretty dang fast (and can further increase its speed for a limited amount of time to like, bullet-time levels, by expending large amounts of energy); Wolverine could certainly cut through his armored body and all his weapons, but I can't imagine Wolverine landing even a single hit on him. And while no upper limit was established, we at least know that Raiden's energy reserves can last about 12 hours or so, under constant strain and intense activity.
The only really issue is killing Wolverine, but I think even that Raiden could overcome most interpretations of Wolverine, even the ones with insanely powerful healing factors. Old-school Wolverine should be able to die of blood loss, or choking. Drowning remains a threat to even more modern versions of Wolverine that have more ridiculous healing factors. At the very least, Raiden should be able to restrain Wolverine fairly easily, provided he has some sort of material Wolverine cannot break with his own strength, and is positioned in such a way that he cannot cut through his bonds with his claws.
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Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 14, 2015, 03:00:21 AM
In before they fight on the Big Shell just so they can have a drowning scare.
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Post by: Bea on August 14, 2015, 03:11:32 AM
Wolverine was disintegrated by an effing sentinel. Guy has this healing factor thing, but he lost to a stupid robot.
Raiden would tear him apart. Maybe a fight with Space Ghost could be more entertaining, but Space Ghost is like, tots overpowered! *nod nod*
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Post by: Zemilia on August 14, 2015, 03:20:28 AM
Would ripping out parts of the adamantium skeleton kill Wolverine or slow him down? If I remember, Magneto killed Wolverine one time by ripping the adamantium skeleton out of him. In Raiden's case, he can rip out a spine out of a cyborg and crush them for energy after slicing his victims to ribbons.
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Post by: Long John Killer on August 14, 2015, 03:26:12 AM
Space Ghost needs a fight as much as....well, I was going to say Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, but technecally, their shows DID end. And Colbert IS Superman, Falcon and the president of Marvel's Earth, never mind owning Cap's shield. And Stewart was mistaken to be the best Green Lantern I believe.
I dunno, I get the feeling this is going to be another composite deal. Wolvy chilled out at the bottom of a lake with metal coils driven throughout him in Days of Future Past without drowning. As long as they take the best of his survivability feats, I can't help but see this being Logan being turned in a pincushion, a "12 Hours Later" sign shows, then he just runs a battery drained Raiden through.
And didn't it take a really angry Hulk to manage to tear Logan's spine? I have trouble seeing Raiden being Hulk-levels of power.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on August 14, 2015, 03:35:06 AM
Raiden may not have the upper strength potential of Hulk, but Metal Gear Excelsus didn't exactly seem like a lightweight machine.
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Post by: Jmorphman on August 14, 2015, 03:45:32 AM
The spine ripping was in the Ultimate universe, and probably wouldn't have worked on regular Wolverine (I think the explanation was that Ultimate Wolverine's actual spinal bones were made of metal, but the... uh... tendons? I don't know how spines work, but the stuff linking the bones together? That was still normal, and thus could be broken. I don't think the same is true of regular Wolverine, somehow. Boy this explanation was terrible!)
Would ripping out parts of the adamantium skeleton kill Wolverine or slow him down? If I remember, Magneto killed Wolverine one time by ripping the adamantium skeleton out of him. In Raiden's case, he can rip out a spine out of a cyborg and crush them for energy after slicing his victims to ribbons.
Magneto was only able to do so because he has control over metal on a subatomic level; anything less than that wouldn't be able to affect adamantium.
I dunno, I get the feeling this is going to be another composite deal. Wolvy chilled out at the bottom of a lake with metal coils driven throughout him in Days of Future Past without drowning. As long as they take the best of his survivability feats, I can't help but see this being Logan being turned in a pincushion, a "12 Hours Later" sign shows, then he just runs a battery drained Raiden through.
Well, he was technically dead, sorta? He was able to revive himself, but he wasn't visibly conscious, and even if the metal rebar had been removed he would still have been stuck at the bottom of that river. But even if that didn't work, Raiden still has options before he eventually runs out of battery. If he can't kill him with his sword, then he's not gonna just stay there stabbing Wolverine for hours on end. He could tie him up and drop him in a volcano, or into the ocean, or something!
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Post by: Long John Killer on August 14, 2015, 04:04:26 AM
I think he meant tearing it out in the same manner Hulk tore the flesh between Logan's spine. Though I did not know that changed between universes. But...if even the flesh inside and between his bones is adamantium, how is he flexable at all? He wouldn't be able to straighten out or lean over at all!
...Is that the real reason he's always pissed off?
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Post by: Negi Springfield on August 14, 2015, 04:06:49 PM
I think he meant tearing it out in the same manner Hulk tore the flesh between Logan's spine. Though I did not know that changed between universes. But...if even the flesh inside and between his bones is adamantium, how is he flexable at all? He wouldn't be able to straighten out or lean over at all!
...Is that the real reason he's always pissed off?
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No it's because he's over 100 years old and he sees that the world still hasn't changed much and people keep making the same mistakes not to mention all the shit in his personal life
I think the simple answer would be that he just adjusted to it over time. Remember that the only reason he was able to get the adimantium bonded with his bones was because of his healing factor. Other people they tried it on basically died instantly and we can assume from the weight along with HOLY SHIT MY BONES ARE BEING COVERED IN METAL.
I think some of you guys are underselling Wolverine. Yes, Raiden is stupid OP but that doesn't mean Death Battle wouldn't at least make the fight interesting.
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Post by: Xhominid on August 19, 2015, 06:45:14 AM
And Wolverine vs. Raiden is CONFIRMED...
Wolvie is fucked.
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Post by: -Whiplash- on August 19, 2015, 06:58:36 AM
I feel as though Wolverine is going to win.
He's pretty much invincible. Don't get me wrong, Raiden's great and I like him better in a sincere way. (unlike wolverine who I mostly like ironically.)
Admittedly, I don't think wolverine can lift a huge Mech like Raiden but still.
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Post by: Gennos on August 19, 2015, 12:24:49 PM
finaly, a 3D fight (assuming there isn't sprites for Raiden somewhere). dis gonna be gud.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on August 19, 2015, 02:19:51 PM
Have you not seen the Deadpool vs Deathstroke, Link vs Cloud, hell even Superman vs Goku
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Post by: Gennos on August 19, 2015, 03:39:44 PM
I'm just excited to see a new 3D fight, that's all.
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Post by: Jmorphman on August 20, 2015, 03:21:50 AM
I think the simple answer would be that he just adjusted to it over time. Remember that the only reason he was able to get the adimantium bonded with his bones was because of his healing factor. Other people they tried it on basically died instantly and we can assume from the weight along with HOLY SHIT MY BONES ARE BEING COVERED IN METAL.
Well, you don't necessarily need a healing factor; Bullseye's spine was reinforced with strips of adamantium, and he's a normal-ass human. But that operation was performed by the guy who invented the adamantium-to-bone bonding process (an incomplete version of which was stolen by the Canadian government, and used on Wolverine). Of course, he wouldn't have survived having the metal completely covering his bones, but it is technically doable!
He's pretty much invincible. Don't get me wrong, Raiden's great and I like him better in a sincere way. (unlike wolverine who I mostly like ironically.)
Admittedly, I don't think wolverine can lift a huge Mech like Raiden but still.
I think what this is ultimately gonna come down to is whether Raiden can find a way to kill Wolverine, because I just can't imagine Wolverine ever, ever managing to get a single hit on the ridiculously fast, ludicrously strong Raiden.
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Post by: lui on August 20, 2015, 10:01:51 PM
I'm just excited to see a new 3D fight, that's all.
here here! torian's animation on the most recent videos have for surely stepped up (boba vs samus, iron man vs lex, goku vs superman 2 and snake vs sam fisher are good visual examples) he just needs to work on the enviroments and the blood effects
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Post by: hatter on August 25, 2015, 01:04:56 AM
Luffy vs. Naruto One Minute Melee.
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No matter what, the winner of that melee was already expected, and I'm so glad.
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Post by: Long John Killer on August 25, 2015, 03:59:06 AM
I don't recall Luffy having a sonic scream, but then I dropped off when he was fighting Arliong. Whom, like Orichimaru, I'm left to presume was in fact NOT the supreme bad guy they were made out to be.
Unless Orichimaru came back with that ninja zombie magic to prove he was behind everything the whole time, I dunno.
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Post by: Duos.act on August 25, 2015, 04:04:41 AM
One MInute Melee takes a lot of liberties, I mean I also don't remember Ragna having Ingrid sunlight powers of teleportation no jiutsu.
Anyway Raiden is going to get bodied but if he doesn't it's probably because Sam's blade can cut through molecules which means he'll be able to slice through Wolverine's skeleton.
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Post by: Gennos on August 25, 2015, 04:16:59 AM
i liked how the makers of this video didn't go further with naruto's powers behind his battle with Pain. because he gets seriously broken OP after that, and it's probably why narutards are going crazy with the dislikes on that video.
that's a new power he discovered he had, he learned to control it in the recent time skip.
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Post by: Duos.act on August 25, 2015, 04:24:05 AM
People must not realize that OMM is meaningless. There's no research and it's genuinely just an animated fanfic for no purpose other than to look cool. Just look at Sonic beating Flash and all the weird out of character moments. It's part of why I dislike OMM so much compared to Death Battle. Well, that and the lack of based Wizard and Boomstick.
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Post by: hatter on August 25, 2015, 04:28:05 AM
People must not realize that OMM is meaningless. There's no research and it's genuinely just an animated fanfic for no purpose other than to look cool. Just look at Sonic beating Flash and all the weird out of character moments. It's part of why I dislike OMM so much compared to Death Battle. Well, that and the lack of based Wizard and Boomstick.
I never really liked Death Battle due to Wizard and Boomstick TBH. I know that's how the show goes, but hell I usually skip it all, because I just wanna see the animated fights.
That said, I do agree with you on OMM. Some battles like Dio and Tohou hoe made me rage, and now hearing about that Sonic and Flash battle makes me want to rip my hair out.
Though Luffy did win like I expected him to, so eh.
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Post by: Duos.act on August 25, 2015, 04:31:34 AM
Sakuya vs DIO was like one of the rare moments of OMM making sense and turning out exactly like DB would, since that result is exactly what would happen and the fight itself played out exactly like it would have otherwise. That's part of why it's considered by far to be one of the better OMM episodes. Sonic vs Flash was dumb because they were both out of character as shit and did pretty much nothing except run fast. But whatever, it's OMM and those are rarely exciting.
In case you missed it, Wolverine's preview is going up on Wednesday because Ben got sick and missed most of work last week. Hope he feels better.
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Post by: D.R.B on August 25, 2015, 04:43:16 AM
OMM don't do reserch at all, not even when it comes to character or personality , but really , not even death battle do character in an accurate way, Spider Man doesn't kill , but well, its a death battle , it has to end up with someone bitting the dust .
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Post by: Duos.act on August 25, 2015, 04:54:19 AM
It's literally in the rules of DB that all restraints on killing are removed. Otherwise they wouldn't have Batman on the show at all.
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Post by: Zemilia on August 25, 2015, 05:01:44 AM
You guys say Flash vs Sonic is the worst? Idk, Ragna vs Dante is kinda there (cause oh idk, the ending to how that fight turned out).
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Post by: Duos.act on August 25, 2015, 05:03:47 AM
Didn't say it was the worst, just that it's an example of no research. Ragna vs Dante was easily the worst.
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Post by: Zemilia on August 27, 2015, 02:27:08 AM
Kind of surprised no one has posted this yet, but:
Wolvie's preview for Death Battle.
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Post by: hatter on September 09, 2015, 12:29:27 AM
Knuckles vs. Wario One Minute Melee. Go to 0:52 if you want to skip the announcement at the beginning.
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LMAO at that ending though :XD: :XD:
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Post by: Gennos on September 09, 2015, 12:51:30 AM
since when did Wario gain smoke screen fart powers? is that canon?
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Post by: Xhominid on September 09, 2015, 03:55:42 AM
Wolverine vs. Raiden battle has just finished...
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I FUCKING CALLED IT!
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Post by: Seadragon77 on September 09, 2015, 04:11:19 AM
After seeing that... it just makes me want to play Metal Gear Rising now. I mean if Raiden is that much of a bad ass... I can't wait to see what that game has in store. Oh, and this post needs the obligatory mention for 'Rules of Nature'
Oh, and next time... It's the World's Strongest Martial Artist... well, so-called World's Strongest Martial Artist
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Post by: Prime SC on September 09, 2015, 04:17:57 AM
God yes I figured he was going to win using that jack the ripper mode he automatically became one of my favorite game characters after playing mg rising
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Post by: R565 on September 09, 2015, 04:32:47 AM
Yeah, Adamantium has met it's match. Now let's see who Satan goes up against.
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Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 09, 2015, 04:40:58 AM
That voice acting was so horrible holy shit. Good battle tho.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on September 09, 2015, 05:16:49 AM
I liked the Wolverine voice actor because he sounded like the 90s cartoon (cheesy Clint Eastwood) rather than modern Wolverine (gruff Steve Blum), but Raiden was definitely off.
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Post by: Gennos on September 09, 2015, 05:22:22 AM
the voice acting from the game was pretty cringy so i guess they did their best to sound like it?
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Post by: Speedpreacher on September 09, 2015, 05:32:33 AM
Eh, the voice ACTING's fine, unless you've never like Quinton Flynn as Raiden. The voice DIRECTION is the problem, namely that there clearly wasn't enough to tell him when to use Ripper Raiden vs. regular Raiden so he just did whatever.
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Post by: Jmorphman on September 09, 2015, 05:43:32 AM
I'm not sure I really agree with the idea that Raiden's Muramasa blade can cut through adamantium (the way Antarctic vibranium dissolves metals using vibrations seems a bit too different to the way HF blades work, maybe?) but the reasoning is ultimately pretty sound, I think. It was a pretty fair representation of both fighters, I think.
buuuuuut they did use that time Wolverine regenerated from only a skeleton as one of his feats, and that time was very specifically only possible because Wolverine had been amped up massively on mutant growth hormone, that's not something he can do normally!!!
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Post by: Xhominid on September 09, 2015, 05:49:18 AM
I'm not sure I really agree with the idea that Raiden's Muramasa blade can cut through adamantium (the way Antarctic vibranium dissolves metals using vibrations seems a bit too different to the way HF blades work, maybe?) but the reasoning is ultimately pretty sound, I think. It was a pretty fair representation of both fighters, I think.
buuuuuut they did use that time Wolverine regenerated from only a skeleton as one of his feats, and that time was very specifically only possible because Wolverine had been amped up massively on mutant growth hormone, that's not something he can do normally!!!
It may not ultimately be the exact same but they work on the same theory and there's nothing else shown that it cannot be cut(Even Armstrong got cut by Sam despite being far less strong than Raiden overall and the HF Muramasa is FAR superior to any typical run of the mill HF Blade on top of that...)
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Post by: Long John Killer on September 09, 2015, 06:51:18 AM
Eh. Another disappointing episode for me. Bios on them in the beginning felt half-hearted, fight wasn't very interesting and I disagree with the winner. Though I do look forward to the next due to how they will downplay Hercule. Because, you know, it's Hercule. But it's DBZ. Plus They might use Z2 's Hercule, which should be fun.
Rather weird they showed all of Wolverine's wounds, but Raiden only gets a few scratches and the arm later in the match.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on September 09, 2015, 07:46:39 AM
Still dunno why they made him use Sam's Murasama instead of his own HF blade. The action was good though. Wouldve liked the fight to be longer. Im happy with the outcome.
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Post by: Jmorphman on September 09, 2015, 08:19:39 AM
Well, it's not like Raiden would go back to using any other sword after the events of Revengeance, it's his sword now! And besides, Raiden's normal HF blade couldn't even cut through Armstrong's nanomachine armor, there'd be no chance of it cutting through adamantium!
Rather weird they showed all of Wolverine's wounds, but Raiden only gets a few scratches and the arm later in the match.
The character models never really showed any wounds, just blood. It's all an abstraction, I guess, just like how Wolverine's healing factor was represented by the blood magically disappearing from his costume. Raiden certain gets hit a lot, not just slash wounds but he gets impaled quite a few times. If this a was professional, big budget affair, the two of them would be looking quite worse for the wear by the end of the fight (well, mostly Raiden, Wolverine would just have a messed up costume).
It may not ultimately be the exact same but they work on the same theory and there's nothing else shown that it cannot be cut(Even Armstrong got cut by Sam despite being far less strong than Raiden overall and the HF Muramasa is FAR superior to any typical run of the mill HF Blade on top of that...)
I mean, just because there's nothing in Revengeance that can't be cut by the Murasama doesn't mean that the Murasama can therefore cut through anything; to pick another wonder metal from Marvel, it definitely couldn't cut through Captain America's shield, no ifs, ands, or buts about it!
I definitely could see it cutting through adamantium, though, but that feels a bit questionable as well, somehow. Antarctic vibranium uses vibrations to break apart metal just like HF blades do, but the details are different: no physical contact is required with antartic vibranium, it just naturally produces anti-metal vibrations that will affect things in its immediate vicinity. There's a definite similarity there, but I think it's a bit of a tossup, personally.
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Post by: R565 on September 09, 2015, 08:55:03 AM
In the end, it's all for fun in the fight and that is what really matters right.....RIGHT?
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Post by: Titiln on September 09, 2015, 09:11:11 AM
did nobody post the video
11:25 if you want to skip the bullshit. wolverine's voice sucked but raiden's was accurate. all in all it was pretty average even though i liked the result
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Post by: lui on September 09, 2015, 09:42:13 AM
fun fact! lex luthor and wolverine were both voiced by smash bros. 4's announcer :D
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on September 09, 2015, 10:28:12 AM
Is it me, or is the fight not really impressive in terms of 3D workings? I mean, it's still a good fight and all (and I loved the result, along with how Raiden's speed is shown), but the presentation feels... average (compared to Torian's previous works like Iron Man vs Lex, Solid Snake vs Sam, Lightning vs Wonder Woman, or hell even the rematch with Goku vs Superman despite some bullshit shown).
Voice acting could use some work. Raiden's alright, but Wolverine just sounds like he's trying too hard to sound like 90s Wolverine.
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Though tbh, the ending was pretty... "huh". Just a decaptitation, then slice the head to ribbons for show.
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Post by: lui on September 09, 2015, 10:29:21 AM
yeah i agree, it felt too fast and the pacing was kinda off at the end, maybe they rushed it for the deadline?
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Post by: Negi Springfield on September 09, 2015, 04:14:46 PM
yeah i agree, it felt too fast and the pacing was kinda off at the end, maybe they rushed it for the deadline?
I didn't particularly like how the fight ended but out of all of the death battles up to this point I think their logical reasoning at the end was mostly sound. Because it's usually pretty heavy handed bull.
And like you guys said, I think the pacing felt a little...off. It's no Snake vs Sam, that's for sure but it was pretty fun for what it was.
7/10
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on September 09, 2015, 06:36:18 PM
Well, it's not like Raiden would go back to using any other sword after the events of Revengeance, it's his sword now! And besides, Raiden's normal HF blade couldn't even cut through Armstrong's nanomachine armor, there'd be no chance of it cutting through adamantium!
Pretty much. Raiden's original HF Blade was literally something you can buy from the store and was just a typical copy. Sam's Muramasa was virtually given to Raiden and is a far stronger HF Blade mainly due to being made from an actual sword.
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I mean, just because there's nothing in Revengeance that can't be cut by the Murasama doesn't mean that the Murasama can therefore cut through anything; to pick another wonder metal from Marvel, it definitely couldn't cut through Captain America's shield, no ifs, ands, or buts about it!
I definitely could see it cutting through adamantium, though, but that feels a bit questionable as well, somehow. Antarctic vibranium uses vibrations to break apart metal just like HF blades do, but the details are different: no physical contact is required with antartic vibranium, it just naturally produces anti-metal vibrations that will affect things in its immediate vicinity. There's a definite similarity there, but I think it's a bit of a tossup, personally.
Of course it wouldn't cut through Captain America's Shield(mainly because of the Proto-Vibranium which completely cease the vibrations from the HF Blade) and I don't think they meant it on that level, it's just the fact that they used basic theory...which is still far better than "Adamantium may be a strong metal, but it's just metal" logic they used for Toph vs. Gaara and Goku vs. Superman 2... And from what I heard in the post show, it was either that or lolWolverine wins because Adamantium can't be cut....
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Jmorphman on September 10, 2015, 11:33:35 PM
I just think it's not cut and dry: I think it could go either way! (I also think Raiden would totally dominate Wolverine without a sword, adamatium-cutting or otherwise) I came across this today, and it seemed pretty appropriate. Fantastic comic book writer Kurt Busiek, who (in addition to a bunch of other great stuff) wrote the iconic crossover JLA/Avengers, was recently asked on Twitter about the Batman/Captain America fight in that book (the fight lasts only a few seconds, because they both realize they shouldn't be fighting, and while they seemed pretty evenly matched Batman admits that Cap would probably beat him, given enough time). He gave this response, which I think is important to keep in mind when pitting characters up against each other and trying to figure out who would win:
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The hard fact is, anyone can beat anyone. We’re writers. We rig the fights. It’s why Squirrel Girl is Unbeatable. Our job as writers is to tell a story, not referee between fictional characters. They don’t actually do anything without we make ‘em do it. And comic book fights are absolutely full of underdogs winning against incredible odds. It’s how the stories work. So while it’s fun for readers to argue about, those of us pulling the puppet strings tend not to be as interested because we know the truth. And the truth is: Is it a good story? If so, that’s what matters. If not, we screwed up. But either way, the fights are still rigged.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Thagr8test on September 11, 2015, 12:10:58 AM
Thats why people should take all of the " DATA " presented in these death battles with a grain of salt especially with goku and superman that shit is like a religion for some people and they quote all of these fictional feats performed by these characters like a religious person quoting from the bible. I don't see how anyone besides children not old enough to know better can lose sight of the fact that ALL of this crap is subject to the whims of writers as evidenced by inconsistent character traits from one story to the next
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: hatter on September 11, 2015, 12:19:21 AM
Gonna jump in and say despite the bad voice acting on both sides, and the pacing, I actually loved this one. I think the way Wolvie died is logical considering that his healing factor is located in his brain (do note my comic book knowledge is not top tier, and if I am wrong please correct me), and what better way to stop that factor than decapitation? Plus the Zandatsu slashing was hype. :P
Tho I do wish the voice acting was better, Raiden didn't even sound like Raiden in MGRR and Wolverine's voice was a bad attempt at his Marvel Anime voice in the X-Men segment.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on September 11, 2015, 01:12:25 AM
I just think it's not cut and dry: I think it could go either way! (I also think Raiden would totally dominate Wolverine without a sword, adamatium-cutting or otherwise) I came across this today, and it seemed pretty appropriate. Fantastic comic book writer Kurt Busiek, who (in addition to a bunch of other great stuff) wrote the iconic crossover JLA/Avengers, was recently asked on Twitter about the Batman/Captain America fight in that book (the fight lasts only a few seconds, because they both realize they shouldn't be fighting, and while they seemed pretty evenly matched Batman admits that Cap would probably beat him, given enough time). He gave this response, which I think is important to keep in mind when pitting characters up against each other and trying to figure out who would win:
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The hard fact is, anyone can beat anyone. We’re writers. We rig the fights. It’s why Squirrel Girl is Unbeatable. Our job as writers is to tell a story, not referee between fictional characters. They don’t actually do anything without we make ‘em do it. And comic book fights are absolutely full of underdogs winning against incredible odds. It’s how the stories work. So while it’s fun for readers to argue about, those of us pulling the puppet strings tend not to be as interested because we know the truth. And the truth is: Is it a good story? If so, that’s what matters. If not, we screwed up. But either way, the fights are still rigged.
Thats why people should take all of the " DATA " presented in these death battles with a grain of salt especially with goku and superman that shit is like a religion for some people and they quote all of these fictional feats performed by these characters like a religious person quoting from the bible. I don't see how anyone besides children not old enough to know better can lose sight of the fact that ALL of this crap is subject to the whims of writers as evidenced by inconsistent character traits from one story to the next
Of course honestly. I'm not pretending otherwise, it just gets funny when it's obvious as hell it's rigged rather than looking like they are truly trying(Like with Toph vs. Gaara.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on September 17, 2015, 01:52:56 AM
Eh, guess Hercule is going against Dan. OMM already did fine with that personally, but guess we'll see how this one goes.
Maybe if he wins he can go on to beat Superman and Kirby on the next April Fool's episode.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Segatron on September 17, 2015, 07:45:25 PM
Oh finally two jokes going head to head
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on September 17, 2015, 08:59:41 PM
They already fought in One Minute Melee. Why let those two fight again in Death Battle, idk.
Well, somebody has to die... plus, since Satan won in One Minute Melee, I can petty much see Dan winning here... or it could go like the Goomba-Koopa match and end in a draw.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on September 21, 2015, 09:59:57 PM
New One Minute Melee's out.
Still want to see that Vergil/Sephiroth match.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on September 22, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
Just watched the new OMM. Love their use of "Sparking" throughout the whole fight.
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Pretty cool that it ended in a draw. Could have been slightly better if they were to use Devil Jin's laser eyes just once. Oh, btw, pink pixel alert at around 1:45
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: hatter on September 22, 2015, 01:32:43 AM
That was beautiful. Definitely my new fave so far. :D
Also, Vergil/Sephiroth OMM or DB? Either one is hype for me, but I just wanna know.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 22, 2015, 01:35:28 AM
Actually holy shit.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on September 22, 2015, 01:54:54 AM
One Minute Melee. If the character select screen is indeed hinting at what future battles they'll have, then those two seem the most likely match up to each other.
In a Death Battle, I'd place Sesshomaru over Sephiroth to be more on terms with Vergil. Don't want to overkill Vergil now. Though I still like the idea of Sesshomaru and Ghost Rider better, it's more fun when the two are so far apart yet have one common theme, and like Wolverine and Raiden, one has a specific resistance that'd without would make it too unfair.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: walt on September 24, 2015, 12:33:47 AM
Sean Altly and Chuchoryu properly credited. I is pleased.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: PBRTODD101 on September 24, 2015, 06:12:56 AM
Those sprites were made by CVSNB though, Sean only made minor edits/tweaks to them. Pretty awesome fight though.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on September 24, 2015, 11:15:03 AM
Those sprites were made by CVSNB though, Sean only made minor edits/tweaks to them. Pretty awesome fight though.
Actually no... Cvsnb only made the SFxT style sprites. The Jin in his Tekken 4 costume was made by Sean
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: PBRTODD101 on September 24, 2015, 11:15:21 PM
Pretty sure he made both http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/cvs-jin-kazama-sprite-cvsnb-129764.0.html
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on September 25, 2015, 01:35:10 AM
While you guys were fawning over the sprites in the last One Minute Melee, the preview for Dan Hibiki showed up yesterday morning:
https://youtu.be/o0Keity0fuA
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on September 25, 2015, 01:36:54 AM
You are aware that there's a youtube tag, right?
In fact, lemme fix that for you.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on September 25, 2015, 01:57:46 AM
Dan is soooo dead.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Segatron on September 25, 2015, 02:05:13 PM
No Bea He will win this I believe the SAIKYO FIST!!!!!!
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on September 30, 2015, 04:01:13 PM
It's out
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Post by: 地獄の花 on September 30, 2015, 04:31:21 PM
well that was interesting. next fight will be yang huh.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on September 30, 2015, 05:15:16 PM
That was quite fun to watch.. I actually learned something (Dan doing a freaking Shun Goku Satsu? I need to see this with my own eyes).
Now, the next fight... OK, someone tell me who this Yang is? I have no knowledge of RWBY at all. (Did I get the name right?)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Prime SC on September 30, 2015, 05:41:37 PM
they should do kakashi vs chameleon copy ninja battle
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 30, 2015, 05:57:45 PM
Called it.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on September 30, 2015, 11:08:21 PM
Video is private. But that's only because they just re-uploaded it:
Edit: Well that ended kinda.. morbidly. Oh well, pretty funny fight overall.
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Holy shit! Yang!
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 01, 2015, 01:16:43 AM
I actually like the One Minute Melee version better. This seemed dragged out. Funny way to pull off the fatality, though. I have zero interest in the next fight, though, so oh well. Though I will be greatly entertained if her opponent ends up being Tex of Red vs Blue. Because, you know, same team worked on them.
And I'd like to see the evolution to this.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on October 05, 2015, 09:57:18 PM
Kenshiro vs Jotaro One Minute Melee is out
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the salt is real
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on October 05, 2015, 10:27:47 PM
It's been confirmed that Yang's opponent is none other than.........
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Tifa Lockhart https://instagram.com/p/8d2MsLJL2X/
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 05, 2015, 10:35:29 PM
Aw man, I thought it was gonna be Garnet
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 05, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
Man, what a wasted opportunity for the best chance to see Tex. And probably Grif get beat up, which is always fun.
Spoiler: So basics I got from the RWBY wiki...(click to see content)
Tifa's going to destroy at first. Yang doesn't know how to fight someone with kick-based attacks which will ruin her focus, plus magic will help. Tifa goes to kill, Yang pulls ridiculous 2X damage recieved reversal move for believing in herself, Tifa explodes to bloody paste.
FF VII fans are pissed Cloud lost to restrictions and TIfa outclassed and would have won except for reflected damage. Thus they'll have Sephiroth die to Apocalypse or something.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on October 07, 2015, 08:05:51 PM
Yang's vid
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Post by: Long John Killer on October 07, 2015, 11:52:02 PM
Yeah...I'm not getting the appeal. And she's outclassed. Until she plays Mirror Force, which would be such a disappointing ending, but I suspect as with Snake going the extra mile for the voice actor and advertising it's gonna skew the fight in her favor. But I'll be glad to be wrong.
Still say Agent Texas was the better opponent here.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on October 14, 2015, 08:05:45 PM
Tifa's vid
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Laharl on October 15, 2015, 02:39:17 AM
the fact they are doing this "and are avid fans of monty" I cannot see tifa winning this regardless. If tifa does win though I will be really surprised.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on October 15, 2015, 09:23:44 AM
boob battle!!!! tifa's gonna win she outclass yang in everything.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: GF202020 on October 15, 2015, 01:10:15 PM
Yang's going to win due to nepotism and advertisiment. ScrewAttack and RoosterTeeth are owned by the same company and new RWBY shit is being made.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on October 15, 2015, 03:53:25 PM
i don't care about marketing bullshit really i just like boobs.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 15, 2015, 03:56:02 PM
Well, if nothing else, +1 for being wrong and getting someone for voicing Tifa and mentioning it. Still feels like this is going to be a total cop out win for Yang with that reflected damage thing. Still gonna suck if that happens.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on October 15, 2015, 04:06:04 PM
Yang's going to win due to nepotism and advertisiment. ScrewAttack and RoosterTeeth are owned by the same company and new RWBY shit is being made.
lol thats just too cynical. they already promote their webshow through this deathbattle, so if they give her an unfair win, people may hate her and never watch the show she came from. so hopefully it won't turn out like that.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on October 19, 2015, 03:32:27 PM
New OMM is out Vergil vs Sephiroth
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Kinda reminds me of Batman Begins with it's terrible camera for fights.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 19, 2015, 03:41:10 PM
As I thought. Though would have placed them having the other win hard, stats or no. At least they did better by Vergil's fight than Dante's.
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Vergil bugs out on the winner screen. Guess there's a reupload on the way?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on October 19, 2015, 03:59:53 PM
nice battle, although the KO strike wasn't well shown at all. it's like they wanted it to be unclear.
lol are you serious? thats like the ultimate nitpick.
And they've reuploaded Death Battle because a stat was listed twice. It wouldn't be surprising, and this is more noticable an error.
And so much for spoilers.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: SlySuavity on October 21, 2015, 04:53:03 AM
So, the recent Death Battle between Yang and Tifa has concluded. Have my thoughts...
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The major thing to criticize was the No Limits Fallacy, bar none. I could get by the nepotism, but man was that a cop-out. Barring this, the choreography was dandy, as was the performance of these voice actresses. Then there's the dance club setting...
As for their portrayal, Yang's personality was pretty spot on, but Tifa seemed more like a mad dog than anything -- she'd actually be chill. Overall, the idea was nice yet it missed the mark, though the fight was fun. Yeah, she ended it with a Yang. :u
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: GF202020 on October 21, 2015, 05:20:58 AM
Yang's going to win due to nepotism and advertisiment. ScrewAttack and RoosterTeeth are owned by the same company and new RWBY shit is being made.
hahaha, look who's right.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on October 21, 2015, 05:30:30 AM
Yeah the NLF pissed off alot of VS. Battle players...
No doubt the casuals are gonna eat that shit up.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on October 21, 2015, 02:40:43 PM
For those who want to see it
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Post by: 地獄の花 on October 21, 2015, 06:30:10 PM
good show. lol as expected of scewattack.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on October 22, 2015, 12:20:24 AM
Yang's hair was pretty twitchy in some scenes, but other than that, called it.
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Tifa's death was pretty.. simple I should say, since it's just a neck snap. Was expecting something else (idk, being punched with the same force she used to destroy that mech) but it's something. Now to think of a prize for Yang.
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Post by: hatter on October 22, 2015, 12:31:09 AM
Dammit Screwattack. >_<
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 22, 2015, 12:51:07 AM
Keeping the disappointment train right on a'rollin'. If nothing else, it wasn't bloody paste in the end. Tifa's animation was noticably weird at times though.
No preview to go off either for a few days it seems. Oh well.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on October 22, 2015, 02:05:53 AM
Great battle.
One of the worst finishes to a fight in the franchise so far.
Good going nepotism, if another fight goes this route, I think i'm done with this series.
Edit: And if ScrewAttack thinks they can get me to watch their shitty original programming just to find out who is going to be in the next Death Battle, then they are sorely mistaken.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Kirishima on October 22, 2015, 02:16:39 AM
Death by nepotism. Feel bad for Yang. Was a very weird matchup. Would've made sense if she fought another original series' character instead of someone official but that's just me.
One of the worst finishes to a fight in the franchise so far.
Good going nepotism, if another fight goes this route, I think i'm done with this series.
Not the worst though. I've seen far worse in Death Battle than that.
Spoiler: Just to list some examples of what I mean(click to see content)
Fulgore vs Sektor (Ultra combo that just ended quickly) and Luigi vs Tails (With that sudden-ass finish).
Also, this isn't really the 1st time Nepotism won in Death Battle (or hell, even One Minute Melee). But, I'm not really mad at how it turned out. If it were heavily on Nepotism though, the fight would have ended much quicker, along with Yang not giving Tifa a chance to fight back.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 22, 2015, 03:05:27 AM
The Fulgore endung was in reference to the reboot's ultra combo though, wasn't it? And I dunno, I like the psych out Tails did. Earlier ones like Spawn vs Kratos or Chun-Li vs Mai were worse.
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Also, Chun-Li should have decimated. >:(
Man, all this did was make me feel sad for FF fans and really wish it was Agent Texas here instead.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on October 22, 2015, 03:21:32 AM
The Fulgore endung was in reference to the reboot's ultra combo though, wasn't it?
Yeah (except it just ended with the hype beam rather than beam -> Shoryuken), but that's only because the game was out at the time and Fulgore was still "new" in there. Doesn't even help the fact that the fight ended way too fast.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on October 22, 2015, 03:23:16 AM
Between this and Sephiroth's loss in One Minute Melee to Virgil, I get the feeling that ScrewAttack HQ is going to be flooded with angry Final Fantasy VII fanboys right... about... now.
On to the match itself: This is really the first time I've heard of Yang or RWBY itself... I don't understand what makes her so strong. It feels like that the idea of absorbing blows and then going SSJ seems a tad bit Mary Sue-ish to me. I don't know.
Oh, and if the Death Battle they'll announce in that silly little show is Unicron vs. Galactus, then I'll care. Anything else shall be deemed a failure.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on October 22, 2015, 03:32:58 AM
Even if that's the case, there are times when Yang lost in the show itself. So it's not really Mary-Sue ish, and more like a trump card/Deus Ex-Machina (at least the case of how this one's handled).
Not really since you are the only one throwing a fit...
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Dycize on October 22, 2015, 11:02:17 AM
Personally I'd be less miffed if the cincher wasn't... THAT.
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"She got punched through a concrete pillar! That means she can withstand XXXX of strength!" It just makes Yang look completely invincible for this matchup, and tanking ALL of Tifa's limit breaks feels over the top to me. And then the very underwhelming neck snap. Yang is souped up on Limit Break energy and it's a neck snap that does it? Sigh. Stupid arbitrary numbers ruining everything.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on October 23, 2015, 01:32:34 PM
wasn't yang beaten by icecream girl in the original show?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on October 23, 2015, 01:40:35 PM
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: supa2520 on October 24, 2015, 09:19:54 PM
well in case you guys saw the ep with yang vs tifa there was a problem some dude stole the harddrive that contains all the deathbattles in it so wiz and boomstick are screwed! lol
but not to worry I just saw the season finale of The Industry they reviled it so NEXT TIME ONNNNNN DEATHBATTLE.......... click here
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MegaMan Vs Astro Boy!!!!!!!!!!(http://orig15.deviantart.net/265c/f/2015/252/b/f/death_battle__16_mega_man_vs_astro_boy_by_augustohirakodias-d8vw2fb.jpg)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Big Meme on October 24, 2015, 09:54:16 PM
Spoiler: Just to list some examples of what I mean(click to see content)
Luigi vs Tails (With that sudden-ass finish).
I felt the same way.
Never mind that my all-time favorite character lost, but I may be biased on that front.
I nearly quit the series after that battle, but caught back on when I discovered OMM. For some reason, I wasn't as salty when Knux beat Wario for some reason.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on October 24, 2015, 10:01:59 PM
Not really since you are the only one throwing a fit...
you're the one complaining in the first place...
Okay and? He didn't need to interject in the first place so again, there's no point in anything he says other than trying to start something. So I find no point in continuing this with anyone.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 24, 2015, 10:54:36 PM
lol
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Post by: Long John Killer on October 24, 2015, 11:22:22 PM
Back on topic then. Presuming that teaser pic's accurate...
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It's been a while since I've seen the original Astro Boy, and longer since the reboot or the Mega Man cartoon, so my predictions are fairly subject to being off-base. And I skipped many of the classic Mega Man games, so there's that. But my guess? No boss power-ups, Mega Man loses hard. With, he'll probably get the best ones overall, and I believe there was one that controlled time to a limited degree? Astro Boy dwarfs Mega Man's power, speed and durability but messing with time give Mega Man a huge advantage. But not one that can stop Astro from going into space and dropping a meteor on him. Still giving it to Astro.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: supa2520 on October 25, 2015, 03:29:53 PM
Back on topic then. Presuming that teaser pic's accurate...
still dont believe its happening heres the video
skip it to 4:21
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on October 25, 2015, 03:39:37 PM
calling it now, Mega man is gonna win. he's got a shitton of weapons and powers he can use (and thats only from the original series and the arcade games). Astro Boy's only powers is that he can fly and shoot lasers.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on October 25, 2015, 04:37:45 PM
calling it now, Mega man is gonna win. he's got a shitton of weapons and powers he can use (and thats only from the original series and the arcade games). Astro Boy's only powers is that he can fly and shoot lasers.
Yeah... naw... This is gonna be another curbstomp battle.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 25, 2015, 08:23:31 PM
Can't Astro, like, fly to the asteroid belt in minutes, then drop a meteor or two on the blue guy? Or just fly really fast into the guy with the spike on his head? Mega Man isn't particularly fond of spikes.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: TrinitroRoy on October 25, 2015, 08:37:24 PM
Or just fly really fast into the guy with the spike on his head? Mega Man isn't particularly fond of spikes.
Don't forget that MegaMan can wear the Shock Guard, which does save him from spikes once. Maybe that one time could then make Astro Boy think that using spikes on MegaMan would be pointless.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on October 28, 2015, 08:36:00 PM
Preview for Megaman:
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on October 30, 2015, 10:02:18 AM
calling it now, Mega man is gonna win. he's got a shitton of weapons and powers he can use (and thats only from the original series and the arcade games). Astro Boy's only powers is that he can fly and shoot lasers.
do megaman has a gun in his ass? i don't think so.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on October 31, 2015, 05:12:59 PM
that might even the odds yeah.
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Post by: OakTheShadowDragon6060 on October 31, 2015, 08:21:13 PM
Calling it now, Astro Boy will win, if they're not idiots. Astro Boy will adapt to everything Mega Man throws at him, and win. Or Mega Man will win because Death Battle like him more, like they did with Superman VS Goku.
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Post by: lui on November 02, 2015, 06:50:39 AM
Astro Boy is OP, he's gonna win
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Post by: Negi Springfield on November 02, 2015, 03:23:58 PM
New OMM is out. Link vs Sora
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Post by: Speedpreacher on November 02, 2015, 03:39:33 PM
That fight gave me a huge weeb boner
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Post by: Long John Killer on November 02, 2015, 03:58:26 PM
Neat fight. But I still think Sailor Moon's the best choice to match-up against Sora. And seeing Pit's the preferred Death Battle match-up and they've used Sora for OMM now, guess that's no longer an option. Oh well.
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Post by: lui on November 03, 2015, 11:53:04 AM
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Post by: AlexSin on November 07, 2015, 03:29:37 PM
They should change that SFA3 KO announcer voice, it's really annoying.
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Post by: Long John Killer on November 12, 2015, 04:45:28 AM
So it's out.
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Yay, one I can agree with. Though while the animation was cool enough, it was weird without at least Astro Boy talking a little.
I had a feeling that refueling bit from the original would show up somewhere too.
Next fight is kinda a bore personally, but I guess it is one people have been asking for.
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Go Supergirl's mentor!
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Post by: Gennos on November 12, 2015, 09:43:50 AM
cool fight, i liked how they gave megaman his sound effects from the NES games, very nostalgic.
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mega man lost! well i guess Astro Boy was just way too durable than him. but really this fight is kinda unfair. y'see a video game character is designed to be vulnerable, because they are to be played in their games. otherwise whats the fun in playing a game where the main character is too powerful? characters from other media don't have to follow this design because they have a specific narrative in which their weaknesses are challenged. or... it could be that im just salty because i really like that blue bastard. :p anyways im excited to the new fight, green arrow and hawk eye. i guessing it's gonna be a 3D fight so yay :D
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 12, 2015, 09:47:29 AM
love the two characters but astro is just too op for the blue bomber.
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Post by: Prime SC on November 12, 2015, 09:56:17 AM
I can't belive he flew around the world in 2 seconds
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Post by: Bea on November 12, 2015, 10:08:25 AM
I will be thoroughly disappointed if the next battle is resolved by their skill in their abilities and not by their skill in quipping.
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Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on November 12, 2015, 10:16:36 AM
astro boy is a beast....never knew much about him
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Post by: Bea on November 12, 2015, 12:32:19 PM
I have to say I would love a quipping and burn death battle between Alfred Pennyworth and Edwin Jarvis. Granted, Jarvis would be completely over matched, but it would very fun to watch.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on November 12, 2015, 06:32:54 PM
Any incarnation of Alfred would butler rings around any version of Jarvis
Yes, I am including the A.I. Versions
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Post by: hatter on November 12, 2015, 07:30:39 PM
Enjoyed the Death Battle, I kinda wish they gave him some of his MvC moves, like Beat Plane, and that Hyper Mega Man super combo, but I'm content with what I saw.
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Green Arrow? Are you fucking joking?
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Post by: hatter on November 17, 2015, 03:02:26 AM
New One Minute Melee came out, Roronoa Zoro vs. Himura Kenshin
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Zoro was fucking amazing as always, so glad he he won. Fuck you Kenshin :P
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 17, 2015, 03:05:05 AM
i'm a big samurai x fan it's one of the anime i grew up with.
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Post by: Long John Killer on November 17, 2015, 03:17:39 AM
Hm, a case where the winner is a no brainer, but a complete bore. Sora vs Link was done better too. Oh well. I know, "No research", but weirdly lacking in showing off Kenshin's moves. Or, uh, getting his name right for that matter. Not many Kenshin fans at Screwattack I'd take?
Sasuke cameoed, but he's not on that pre-match list. Guess he's next season.
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Post by: hatter on December 01, 2015, 05:36:25 AM
New One Minute Melee, Bulleta v. Peacock (Darkstalkers v. Skullgirls):
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I knew Peacock was the winner, she's just too zany for Bulleta :P Either way, this ranks among my faves, because holy shit so much HYPE
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Post by: Kirishima on December 01, 2015, 06:06:26 AM
Yes, Peacock finally in OMM. Sprite clashing looked odd here but the animation of it all was great.
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Having a tough time thinking who Valentine may likely face.
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Post by: Long John Killer on December 01, 2015, 06:16:00 AM
My limited knowledge on both says B.B. Hood should have had it in the bag, but it's OMM, so eh.
Yeah, there's a bit of a shortage on sexy nurses in fighting games to exactly match up to. Isn't she also a ninja or something? Kasumi'd work then I suppose. If Taki's not already planned that is.
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Post by: hatter on December 01, 2015, 06:28:46 AM
My limited knowledge on both says B.B. Hood should have had it in the bag, but it's OMM, so eh.
Nah, Peacock definitely had this one. Peacock is pretty much a reality-warping version of Bulleta, so I'm not surprised at the outcome, and whether it was in OMM or DB, Peacock would probably dominate Bulleta in either case.
See kids, this is what happens when you mix Animaniacs with Machete, you get an unstoppable reality warping killing machine thingamajiggy.
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Post by: lui on December 01, 2015, 06:31:49 AM
that ending was hilarious, friggin ganged up on bulleta all GTA style too
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 02, 2015, 06:16:12 PM
It's out
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Post by: walt on December 02, 2015, 06:32:53 PM
"Who you gonna call? A HOSPITAL, KID! QUICK! HOLY SHIT!" :laugh:
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 02, 2015, 06:33:31 PM
That was.... one of the worst fights i've ever seen.
That's some Kratos vs Spawn-tier stuff there. Jeeze.
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Post by: walt on December 02, 2015, 06:40:43 PM
Does that Hawkeye sprite set exist, or were those just Green Arrow edits?
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Post by: Bea on December 02, 2015, 09:56:55 PM
I found their lack of bantering and quipping to be disturbing. Those can't be Green Arrow and Hawkeye. The quipping game was too low for both of them!
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Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on December 02, 2015, 10:21:18 PM
The battle was decent, though the sprite choices were a bit similar.
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I'm still surprised that Charizard's taking on Greymon
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Post by: EveryonesKouhai on December 02, 2015, 10:31:47 PM
Does that Hawkeye sprite set exist, or were those just Green Arrow edits?
Those sprites are edited from green arrow forgot who made that hawkeye
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Post by: Long John Killer on December 02, 2015, 11:49:54 PM
Man, I thought I wasn't going to care for this one, but that battle was just so lackluster. And I dunno, the winner seems wrong, given the loser's usual baddies to take on? A bit of a let down after Mega Man and Astro. Ah well.
I though Batman returning for another match was due to specific circumstances or something, but I guess he's not the only returnee now. Also though Galactus and Unicron was going to be the season finale?
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I haven't watched Digimon in ages, so I could be dead wrong. But I recall Greymon only can digi-volve with their owner using a special device. Unless they're including Ash or Red? That's a really important factor as well, seeing the two Charizards have different experiences. Unless they're forgoing trainers, then....Charizard? By a square mile? As big as Tifa destroying Yang.
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Post by: Jmorphman on December 03, 2015, 01:17:09 AM
Yeah I dunno about this one, the battle itself is pretty stilted, and the reasoning behind the victory seemed strained (basically, Hawkeye has a heavier draw weight? Which isn't really reflected in the fight at all?) I mean, I can easily see either party winning here (my gut went for Green Arrow since he has, in general, better gimmick arrows, but I could see Hawkeye winning just as easily); I'm just not really seeing a compelling reason for Hawkeye's win here.
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Post by: Long John Killer on December 03, 2015, 01:21:45 AM
He tried to break Green Arrow's bow with a few shots...and failed, so yeah.
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Post by: 地獄の花 on December 03, 2015, 10:09:37 AM
meh boring deathbattle. and so will the next deathbattle we all know agumon is better than pikachu. or will it be tamer vs tamer.
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Post by: Long John Killer on December 10, 2015, 02:52:59 AM
Greymon's looking a little small there (http://img14.deviantart.net/9e3a/i/2015/339/a/6/the_size_difference_of_digimon_and_pokemon_by_keyblademagicdan-d9j47fh.png). Maybe they didn't look into his Greymon form that much simply because they plan to jump to a further more intense one?
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 12, 2015, 07:09:50 AM
So I know it's not OMM/DB but this series has been somewhat dormant for a while and we finally got a new fight in it and I figure it's relevant enough to post
NEW SUPER POWER BEAT-DOWN! Spider-Man vs Darth Maul PLACE BETS NOW! action starts around 6:45
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Post by: lui on December 12, 2015, 07:10:46 AM
holy fuck spiderman looks good.
GO SPIDERMAN GO
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 12, 2015, 07:12:36 AM
Yeah ALL of their videos are super top notch and worth checking out.
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Post by: lui on December 12, 2015, 07:19:17 AM
i always skip the parts where the guys introduce the video because theyre pretty atrocious. i also dont like how the winner is decided by votes
anywho
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im glad spidey won, although in reality darth maul would probably win. i hated spidey's voice though, the guy sounded soooo boring. im loving all the effects and the makeup though, they all look pretty top-quality, they even got the emperor's voice just right! mixing the classic black suit with the modern costume was awesome as well. all in all, its pretty solid.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 12, 2015, 07:24:27 AM
After getting my fix from this new episode I can safely say... it's not their best work. Now if you want to see some of their BEST stuff then I got you covered right here.
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Post by: lui on December 12, 2015, 07:26:38 AM
darth vader vs batman was for sure the best one.
that shot of batman with a lightsaber was just glorius
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 14, 2015, 03:30:45 PM
Back to our regularly scheduled program.
Metal Sonic vs Bowser Jr.
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THE FIGHT EVERYBODY ASKED FOR!
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Post by: R565 on December 14, 2015, 03:57:19 PM
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Holy crud they pulled an Akuma.
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Post by: hatter on December 14, 2015, 04:00:36 PM
That was pretty funny to watch, I liked how it ended. Guess that means Bowser v. Mecha Sonic for a future OMM?
Also, may I inquire about Mecha Sonic's voice? I feel like I've heard it somewhere, but I can't put a finger on it.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 14, 2015, 04:29:46 PM
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Post by: Kirishima on December 16, 2015, 03:38:48 PM
Pretty expected. Still good.
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Post by: Long John Killer on December 16, 2015, 04:06:04 PM
Meh, waiting for this one I went and found some of the Pokemon manga to remember some of Red's more outlandish things. Beating the three legendary birds fused into one seems like it should be something worth mentioning. And each gym badge multiplies all the trainer's pokemon's stats, so having 8 of them should also have been brought up.
I knew the winner would come from adding more evolutions, but Charizard to Greymon, besides size Charizard should have been better everywhere else. Eh, at least it wasn't a win by removing all the air.
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Post by: hatter on December 16, 2015, 04:08:12 PM
Couldn't really bring myself to enjoy this much because the winner was a no-brainer, but it was good tho. I liked how the graphics looked in this DB.
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Goddamn tho, WarGreyMon went overkill on Mega Charizard, and Tai beating the crap outta Red was LOL worthy
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Post by: Thagr8test on December 16, 2015, 04:25:47 PM
pretty cool fight although seeing the attack leading up to the finish kind of bothered me in the same way seeing the turtles kill each other did oh well childhood attachment to the characters i guess
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 16, 2015, 06:42:18 PM
Yeah this one was kinda obvious from the word "go"
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Greymon is already a fair bit stronger then Charizard and Metal Greymon would have been more than a match for MegaCharizard X
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 28, 2015, 03:40:58 PM
Double post because there is a new video out.
Uh... Master Hand vs Polygon man?
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Post by: R565 on December 28, 2015, 06:17:18 PM
Battle of the Bosses.
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Post by: Seadragon77 on December 28, 2015, 10:23:09 PM
That was a one sided fight if there ever was one... sheesh.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on January 11, 2016, 03:54:40 PM
New OMM
Green Arrow vs... Hawkeye
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yawn
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Post by: Long John Killer on January 11, 2016, 07:21:48 PM
It was better than Death Battle's take, but it's just kinda the nature of the fight makes it hard to be very interesting to watch without getting ridiculous. Good thing they are ridiculous superheroes then.
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Kinda weird to have Green Arrow shots actually connect, but then not do anything. Still won in the end, though, yay.
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Post by: hatter on January 11, 2016, 10:25:11 PM
Master Hand v. Polygon Man was great, the Hawkeye v. Green Arrow OMM was just about as bad as their Death Battle (but that's probably because I hate Green Arrow and am not really fond of Hawkeye, but ehhh).
Wonder who's next for OMM tho.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on January 13, 2016, 08:01:20 AM
Not really DB or OMM, but its a similar concept to OMM
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Post by: Negi Springfield on January 13, 2016, 06:11:48 PM
Perfectly fine to post stuff like that, just as long as it's good/well made and I must say that certainly was well made. The ending was a little weak in my book but the fight was decent.
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Post by: R565 on January 13, 2016, 07:05:19 PM
Yeah it fits, also to mention...
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Saitama Vs. Superman next!
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Post by: Kirishima on January 15, 2016, 09:44:56 PM
So Marvel released this vid on their channel. I'd like to know what the fuck they were smoking [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrpUCxuf0Tc[/youtube]
It was prolly some of that good shit kids are consuming these days (http://s9.postimg.org/aou0mw9q3/MFGexclusive.png)
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Post by: hatter on January 15, 2016, 11:46:49 PM
So Marvel released this vid on their channel. I'd like to know what the fuck they were smoking [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrpUCxuf0Tc[/youtube]
That is way too much ganja to take.
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Post by: DelusionTrim on January 16, 2016, 01:51:24 AM
So Marvel released this vid on their channel. I'd like to know what the fuck they were smoking [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrpUCxuf0Tc[/youtube]
When I thought Spider Man and Luke Cage copying Street Fighter characters' moves were bad enough they make this, lol.
Just gotta love how there's no consistency in this "fight" at all, though trying to explain why wouldn't be worth it at all...
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Post by: Titiln on January 16, 2016, 01:58:17 AM
Not really DB or OMM, but its a similar concept to OMM
the animation, camerawork and voice acting in dante deadpool was excellent. it's weird that they have those production values but the pixel text is so goddamn horrendous. i liked it better than most of the stuff (if not all the stuff) i've seen from death battle
So Marvel released this vid on their channel. I'd like to know what the fuck they were smoking
what is this shit
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Post by: Long John Killer on January 16, 2016, 02:27:19 AM
I don't particularly mind the non-Screwattack shows discussion, but wouldn't they be better off in their own thread, like Super Power Beat Down? That or I guess I could change this to the "All You Can Kill Fan-made Deathmatch" thread.
Meant to post this yesterday, whoops. So Sccrewattack teased the next fight in March. (https://www.facebook.com/OfficialSA/photos/a.10150105924226185.268398.277319861184/10153517487021185/?type=3)
Meh. I suppose the obvious answer to the other opponent is Dante, but that would mean working against Word of God from the creators who wins if they want to even give Dante a chance. So presuming it's not Dante...fighting a fellow witch? I don't know many witches to suggest though.
Go Elphaba, kick her Smash Bros. poll stealing ass.
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Post by: SNT on January 16, 2016, 02:35:37 AM
So presuming it's not Dante...fighting a fellow witch? I don't know many witches to suggest though.
First one that comes to mind is Ultimecia, but that'd be an outright massacre.
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Post by: Long John Killer on January 16, 2016, 02:49:57 AM
Oh, man, I wish I'd thought of that sooner. That I'd like to see, to be honest.
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Post by: Kirishima on January 16, 2016, 02:56:42 AM
Calling it: Palutena.
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Post by: DelusionTrim on January 16, 2016, 03:32:49 AM
Problem with Dante is that they would have to choose which DMC version will fight Bayonetta, I guess they could make a mix of them in one character and do the same to Bayo but even then it's kinda complicated...
Have no idea who it would be besides Dante, it will be an interesting match just for Bayonetta alone, though.
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Post by: Long John Killer on January 16, 2016, 03:43:20 AM
It would be the end of 4 Dante, taking his best feets and mashing them into one guy, just like the rest.
Facebook at least suggests Lightning and Kratos. God, I hope not for Lightning. I mean, I'd enioy Lightning winning and all, but she could use a better themed match-up, something more interesting. Kratos I wouldn't mind coming back, Charizard got to. Though he's just gonna try to sleep with her then die.
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Post by: Seadragon77 on January 16, 2016, 05:00:07 AM
You know, why not Dante? That would be a great match up for Death Battle... provided they keep Reboot Dante far, far away. Give me old Dante at his full potential any day.
Oh, and I'm still waiting for Galactus vs. Unicron.... better be in Season 3.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on January 16, 2016, 11:13:12 PM
I'd like it if it was Nariko from Heavenly Sword.
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Post by: Long John Killer on January 16, 2016, 11:21:18 PM
Because it's already been decided Dante loses. It's no fun watching a fight you know the winner while the other side has no chance.
It occurs to me that the other character might be that Kill la Kill striper girl. Going to be awkward opening on that theme, but still. Any chance of it being an even fight? I tried to watch it and had enough when they got to the school sporting teams tearing each others clothes off for sport or something weird and bizarre while she manages to not kill them while cutting them down.
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Post by: Laharl on January 16, 2016, 11:26:49 PM
thinking about that Ryuko Might be a good fit her sword is MADE to cut clothes and not people. Bayonettas hair IS her clothes. I highly reccomend you finish the anime it gets a hilarious/interesting plot, secondly shes not a stripper she did not choose that outfit its kind of forced lol.
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Post by: Long John Killer on January 16, 2016, 11:36:47 PM
Reaching the school was the third attempt at watching it. I went for the clifnotes afterwords to satisfy friends who needed me to get it. It's all about the forced perception and boundries of wearing clothes when we should be naked and free. Thanks, no, Makoto Kusanagi did it better.
So the sword literally can't harm people? That'd make some sense, being a scissor sword against the evils of fabric or whatever? I guess? She's no Kenshin and can still beat up with the dull side I'm guessing though. And judging from the first Bayonetta going all super Sindel to getting a haircut but still somehow controlling the hair around her, I'm guessing cutting it does absolutely nothing. So yeah, mis-match there.
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Post by: Laharl on January 16, 2016, 11:40:52 PM
nah it CAN harm people its just its not geared towards it, its still a huge scissor blade that can gut a person she just uses it for killing clothes. since you read cliffnotes you are probably aware of a certain death in the series that kind of fuels her character most of the time.
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Post by: D.R.B on January 17, 2016, 12:45:57 AM
God damn it, it's going to be Midna, isn't it? They're gonna kill one of my favorite Nintendo characters ever with one I can't stand. Right when she returns in Twilight Princess HD. And I'm going to be twice as sad dragging her dying body up the castle in the game then. :'(
Master Chief, step in and Spartan Laser her to dust instead.
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Post by: SNT on January 25, 2016, 03:10:20 PM
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What fucking garbage. If you give Ippo a chance to get Dempsey rolling, the match is fucking over.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on January 25, 2016, 03:13:31 PM
Its OMM, they basically let their faves win, regardless of character
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Post by: Kirishima on January 25, 2016, 03:59:33 PM
Whatever happened to the results screen? Who made these sprites?
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Post by: Darkflare on January 26, 2016, 03:14:45 AM
What fucking garbage. If you give Ippo a chance to get Dempsey rolling, the match is fucking over.
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Against Mac? Who fights guys several weight classes above him who can easily match Ippo's DR in power?
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Post by: DatKofGuy on February 05, 2016, 10:43:14 PM
Alternate ending is released
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Post by: Negi Springfield on February 09, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
On a similar note; the alternate ending for Superpower Beatdown's Spider-Man vs Darth Maul is out
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Post by: Long John Killer on February 09, 2016, 10:58:51 PM
That was a fairly cool idea and execution for it to then just end so quickly. Well, still cool, I like this version better.
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Post by: Long John Killer on February 28, 2016, 05:00:16 PM
They're back.
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And again, what's the point when it's already been decided? I mean, I'd like Dante to win, and it wouldn't be the first time they'd ignore details from one or both series in a match, but to just go again "He loses"?
Well, at least it's not Midna. Which means total misleading tease before with that Hyrule Historia.
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Post by: Bea on February 28, 2016, 11:28:38 PM
That one is a very weird pick on their part. "Word of god" has already said who would win that match, so, what is the point? :|
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Post by: Long John Killer on February 29, 2016, 03:18:24 AM
I don't get it either. The newcomer either wins, and their information gathering is put into question and doubt on their research on any future episodes, or they lose and they just agree with the previous as close to canon as we'll get outcome. Which would be perfect for One Minute Melee to get that done with, but unnecessary for Death Battle. Especially as the one they choose to come back from vacation on.
Eh. Well, knowing now it's not a Zelda character as previously hinted, that means we have something else planned for a Zelda character to drop by. I'd enjoy it if they viewed Toon Link as a separate entity than Link, as Nintendo by now pretty much does other than official timeline, but I'm also all up for Ganondorf destroying Bowser and resurrecting Dry Bowser as his minion. Or Impa versus another water-wielding ninja. Naruto's Zabuza would be interesting. Still would like Midna, though in a match not so one-sided depending on their interpretation on Twili Midna..
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Post by: Speedpreacher on February 29, 2016, 03:59:32 AM
I don't understand this choice. The man who created both characters has said how this would end. Anyone who's played both series knows how this would end. I guess their 3D animator just really wanted to animate it?
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Post by: Long John Killer on March 03, 2016, 12:36:45 AM
Dante's preview is out.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on March 06, 2016, 07:27:44 AM
New vid from the guy who does Arcade mode
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on March 06, 2016, 07:34:54 AM
i like the animation itself, but i really dont like it when fan-made animations over-use the whole "epic, godly" kind of soundtrack, it gets kind of annoying and sounds generic
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: major jon on March 06, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
Bugs Bunny vs Mickey Mouse
Ratchet and Clank vs Jak and Daxter
Homer vs Peter
Peacock vs Cup Head
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: AlexSin on March 06, 2016, 12:07:18 PM
The intro sequence looks cooler now, I don't really mind if it moves to another channel as long as the formula is kept.
Wonder why they didn't keep the select screen gimmick? I kinda like it.
As for the fight, not bad, though certainly doesn't top the Zoro and Rurouni Kenshin fight (which I think took place in that same forest?)
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I'm not exactly big on Bleach and Naruto, but from what I can faintly remember about each character (and I emphasize the faintly part), it seemed like this fight was in Ichigo's bag. I like the ending though, wasn't at all what I was expecting
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on March 10, 2016, 01:47:31 AM
Equally out of touch with both, but I thought Ichigo was classified as a ghost or spirit when he's using his powers, and is completely undetectable to humans. It was a big deal whenever someone could barely make out their presence, so I'd guess the fight would be more Sasuke can't track what he's fighting whatsoever.
Unless those fancy eyes of his are ghost detectors too, I have no clue what magic those things do any more.
are they ever going to make an animated version of tails vs sephiroth
If there's a reference here, I'm not getting it. We're not requesting ridiculous nonsense matches like Wolverine vs Kenny McCormick or something like that.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 10, 2016, 02:37:36 AM
The joke is that match was filled with "I hit you with my sword." *teleports behind you* *teleports behind you* like
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: TrinitroRoy on March 11, 2016, 08:30:53 AM
Saitama vs Superman? I'm sorry, but that's very one-sided.
Much more interesting would be Saitama vs Someone who can absorb punches/damage
but even that would be one-sided
How? Saitama is fighting someone who can absorb damage and turn the absorbed damage into more power. I mean, Saitama could win if he feeds the damage absorber with his punches so much that the damage absorber absorbs more damage than he/she can handle and then explodes. However, the damage absorber could easily use the absorbed damage to perform one-hit punches himself/herself.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on March 11, 2016, 09:48:43 AM
Saitama vs Superman? I'm sorry, but that's very one-sided.
Much more interesting would be Saitama vs Someone who can absorb punches/damage
but even that would be one-sided
How? Saitama is fighting someone who can absorb damage and turn the absorbed damage into more power. I mean, Saitama could win if he feeds the damage absorber with his punches so much that the damage absorber absorbs more damage than he/she can handle and then explodes. However, the damage absorber could easily use the absorbed damage to perform one-hit punches himself/herself.
well, Saitama IS made to always be one-sided character , even if he fought a character that can absorb damage, Saitama well win just can its his gag to always win , he simply doesn't really belong in these matches
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on March 11, 2016, 10:00:10 AM
i really don't know why people take saitama so seriously, the point of his character is that he takes nothing seriously, that's what he's about, ironically it leads to a bunch of heated debates about "saitama can beat this and that" or whatever, he's intentionally broken and thats why i always get annoyed about all the discussions about it. in the end he wins everything, thats the whole point of his story, its a dang parody of every shounen ever lol
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: TrinitroRoy on March 11, 2016, 10:25:20 AM
i really don't know why people take saitama so seriously, the point of his character is that he takes nothing seriously, that's what he's about, ironically it leads to a bunch of heated debates about "saitama can beat this and that" or whatever, he's intentionally broken and thats why i always get annoyed about all the discussions about it. in the end he wins everything, thats the whole point of his story, its a dang parody of every shounen ever lol
No, Saitama does not neceserily win everything. I even gave an explanation for that.
How? Saitama is fighting someone who can absorb damage and turn the absorbed damage into more power. I mean, Saitama could win if he feeds the damage absorber with his punches so much that the damage absorber absorbs more damage than he/she can handle and then explodes. However, the damage absorber could easily use the absorbed damage to perform one-hit punches himself/herself.
well, Saitama IS made to always be one-sided character , even if he fought a character that can absorb damage, Saitama well win just can its his gag to always win , he simply doesn't really belong in these matches
Don't be ridiculous, nobody wins simply for the sake of winning. Damage absorber that get stronger the more damage they receive CAN defeat Saitama. Seriously, why is that so hard to understand?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on March 11, 2016, 10:30:55 AM
i'm not being ridiculous
Saitama was made to make fun of shounen animes/mangas
if you want to talk about being ridiculous , Saitama only enemy he could not beat is a mosquito , that goes to show you how seriously the show should be taken
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on March 11, 2016, 10:36:31 AM
youre missing the point of my post, the point wasnt to give a reason on why saitama cant be beat, my point was that debates on who can beat saitama are pretty pointless and are as redundant as power levels in DBZ.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Darkflare on March 11, 2016, 01:38:08 PM
Clearly the only debate worth discussing with Saitama is whether he could beat Squirrel Girl.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on March 12, 2016, 02:14:40 AM
can squirrel girl even beat squirrel girl?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on March 12, 2016, 01:24:07 PM
anything is passible for her , just as long its off-panel
SG vs SG can end in a double KO off-panel
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on March 14, 2016, 07:54:01 PM
Episode's out for subscribers.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: TrinitroRoy on March 15, 2016, 08:31:21 AM
The joke is that match was filled with "I hit you with my sword." *teleports behind you* *teleports behind you* like [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqgMPTSz91E[/youtube]
What I find especially funny about this is that Tails has a sword all of the sudden. It only gets funnier when you find out that Tails actually DID wield a sword in an official Sonic media: (http://i.imgur.com/UJ0wpJm.jpg)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on March 15, 2016, 09:27:09 AM
Dante, surprisingly, despite Hideki Kamiya (the mind behind both of them) saying on multiple occasions that Dante stands no chance against Bayo... but hey, this is DB logic
Fight itself was animated pretty well, so atleast they are improving there. And geewiz, DBX is so hard trying to be OMM, the shader style they used for the first fight is just ugly as fuck, DBX is their new show that is basically OMM... but they swear its not
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on March 16, 2016, 02:46:52 AM
Dante, surprisingly, despite Hideki Kamiya (the mind behind both of them) saying on multiple occasions that Dante stands no chance against Bayo... but hey, this is DB logic
Fight itself was animated pretty well, so atleast they are improving there. And geewiz, DBX is so hard trying to be OMM, the shader style they used for the first fight is just ugly as fuck, DBX is their new show that is basically OMM... but they swear its not
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FYI, that statement is incorrect because it's so often misinterpreted due to language/cultural barriers.
Kamiya never said that Bayonetta would beat Dante. Kamiya's response when asked in that interview people like to cite so much was "Who would win in a fight between Dante and Bayonetta? There is not a man on the planet who can defeat a woman." What he pretty much said was that Bayonetta is independent and that Dante wouldn't hurt a lady, so she would win by default, not who would actually win in a fight. He was making a joke about husbands who are henpecked/whipped by their wives. Kamiya himself actually dislikes the idea of them fighting, so he never gives a straight answer when asked. In fact he even does his usual block/insult thing on Twitter if you come to him about it.
Another thing people like to cite is Bayonetta defeating a god. This is also taken out of context a lot, because Jubileus was not at optimal power due to only having half of the eyes, and even then Bayo needed help to get that kill.
TLDR, a lot of the pro-Bayo things are just taken out of context.
Sorry for the unsolicited post and for butting in, I just wanted to clear some things up.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on March 16, 2016, 02:29:47 PM
DB's on YT now (and so is DBX.. whatever the acronym means): Death Battle:
DBX:
Quick Note: Whoever animated DBX needs to step up their game. Immediately.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Big Meme on March 16, 2016, 03:11:01 PM
That reminds me of 1st season RWBY, and not in a good way.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: AlexSin on March 16, 2016, 03:31:48 PM
Apart from the voices (the SFA3 KO voice and Burai's voice for Ippo), I can enjoy this video much more than the other one, it felt so unfinished. Plus we get to see the Dempsey Roll. :D
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on March 16, 2016, 03:54:43 PM
so one minute melee became it's own seperate thing from screwattack, so screw attack is replacing it with a show called death battle X, basically it's the same thing but instead of just random opponents the fighters are characters that are affiliated with the DB contestants in one way or another, oh and they also kill eachother at the end as well.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on March 16, 2016, 04:01:09 PM
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKZQgmTmyzQ[/youtube] Apart from the voices (the SFA3 KO voice and Burai's voice for Ippo), I can enjoy this video much more than the other one, it felt so unfinished. Plus we get to see the Dempsey Roll. :D
This a alternate version or something? Coz this battle has been posted before.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on March 16, 2016, 04:10:10 PM
It's the full/extended version of what was shown on Screwattack.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: AlexSin on March 16, 2016, 04:17:40 PM
What he said. I don't repost stuff if it is already posted.
Walruslui, I have the same feeling, they're doing their own thing to replace OMM. But it's not looking good. Well, they just started so I can't say much, but if they put the same effort they had for Bayonetta vs Dante, it would have looked much better.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on March 16, 2016, 04:30:22 PM
it's a new animator, he's not as well polished as torian, im giving him the benefit of the doubt tho, he's still not as experienced as torian so he could only go up from there
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on March 16, 2016, 06:09:48 PM
Gotta say that Dante vs Bayonetta battle is easily my new favorite. I really have no issues with it and the logic used for the result was solid.
The Ippo vs Lil Mac match was also much better then previously shown.
I had a legit good time watching both of them and I haven't in a while.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on March 17, 2016, 12:27:16 AM
it's a new animator, he's not as well polished as torian, im giving him the benefit of the doubt tho, he's still not as experienced as torian so he could only go up from there
I agree with that statement and add in that DBX isn't set to debut until May. That gives this new guy a couple of months to polish up his animation skills and give this spin off a chance to thrive.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on March 17, 2016, 12:30:02 AM
I am, though. :D Though ignoring him still does bug me the more blatantly they'll ignore info one way or another. Not as much as Yang and Tifa, but whatever, they needed the promotion.
Spoiler: Next fight(click to see content)
So Bowser. Yay. Obvious match-up is Ganondorf, get some super-sized Bowser fighting Ganon started.
I'm still annoyed at their reasoning at Peach even standing a chance, so I'm gonna go Ganon on this one. But unlike Peach, I like both Bowser and Ganondorf a lot, so can't be too disappointed either way.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 17, 2016, 12:34:37 AM
I can easily see that as him just being tired of getting probably a million tweets about it today and generally being tired of the question in general.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on March 17, 2016, 12:36:03 AM
Fair enough, didn't think of that.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: SNT on March 17, 2016, 12:44:30 AM
Yeah, nah, Bayonetta would stomp Dante.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on March 17, 2016, 12:56:34 AM
regardless that animation was torian's best to date, hands down. alot of cool moments.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: R565 on March 17, 2016, 01:34:18 AM
Eh, Kamiya being Kamiya. Still, the fight is the best so far hands down in my opinion.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on March 17, 2016, 03:00:36 AM
I am, though. :D Though ignoring him still does bug me the more blatantly they'll ignore info one way or another. Not as much as Yang and Tifa, but whatever, they needed the promotion.
Spoiler: Next fight(click to see content)
So Bowser. Yay. Obvious match-up is Ganondorf, get some super-sized Bowser fighting Ganon started.
I'm still annoyed at their reasoning at Peach even standing a chance, so I'm gonna go Ganon on this one. But unlike Peach, I like both Bowser and Ganondorf a lot, so can't be too disappointed either way.
The thing to remember about Kamiya, is that he hates three things. 1.Being asked the same question multiple times 2.Being asked about things he has no stake in, like DMC and Bayo post-1. 3.The matchup in general, he's never given a direct answer and he absolutely HATES being asked as he still respects Capcom.
Kamiya asked people to knock it off for weeks leading up to this, and now that the battle is actually up I can only imagine that he's unhappy. Keep in mind that to Kamiya this was basically making his two children fight, he wasn't going to be happy either way, and that's on top of the fact that people are constantly pestering him about it and generally harassing him. I'm glad we put that "but Kamiya said Bayo was stronger" myth to rest forever (hopefully) but I hate that people are giving him shit. They need to just leave the man alone already.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: EveryonesKouhai on March 17, 2016, 04:17:21 AM
I'm was for sure Kamiya said Bayo was stronger than DMC1 Dante, didn't he?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on March 17, 2016, 04:29:54 AM
Never. It was a joke taken out of context. I even posted the exact quote earlier in this thread.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Titiln on March 17, 2016, 04:34:14 AM
i am pretty sure that if kamiya was that determined about bayonetta beating dante he would've reiterated it considering the 5000 times he's been asked that lately
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on March 17, 2016, 04:40:36 AM
i don't understand why this stuff matters so much to people. it's just a fan crossover show, a glorified fan fiction. if it's not made by the creators then it really shouldn't piss them off that much.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on March 17, 2016, 04:45:43 AM
Well, there is something annoying to it when they disregard info, like Shiek or gen 1 Pokemon badge multiplying power per each or whatever, and it becomes popular opinion due to the show's popularity.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on March 17, 2016, 05:31:35 AM
The point I'm trying to make is that they didn't really get anything wrong here. The whole "Kamiya said Bayonetta was stronger" is born of nothing more than a misunderstanding of his joke, because cultural shit like that is easily lost in translation. If you're a Bayonetta fan and you're upset by the outcome, well that's fine and I can't really blame you, but I only posted in this thread because I wanted to bring light to the fact that Kamiya never outright stated anything concrete either way. People just took his joke at face value and ran with it.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on March 17, 2016, 06:16:54 AM
Loved this one https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/710294410290814976
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on March 17, 2016, 06:27:23 AM
It's as I said, the result is not what concerns him, he is genuinely tired of hearing about the concept itself.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on March 17, 2016, 07:38:39 AM
Watched the extended OMM of Mac vs Ippo.. holy shit, was amazing, so much better than the original one.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: JudaiZX on March 18, 2016, 05:10:30 PM
People kept saying "Bayonetta killed a god!" as their reasoning as to why she should have won..... uhm, didn't Dante do the same thing? DMC1's Mundus might as well be the equivalent of a god. Or that giant godlike statue in DMC4 (Pretty sure it was called "Savior")? I really don't see how people doubted Dante would win. Yeah Bayonetta is powerful too, but to Dante this was just another day at work for him. Still that was one of the best DB animations I've ever seen from them, but my only complaint is their fandubbing is.....ehh......I mean I get it if they couldn't get Reuben Langdon for Dante and whoever Bayonetta's voice actress is, but I think they could've at least just used voice clips from the games. Whoever was voicing Dante in that video sounded like if Reuben Langdon swallowed a shitload of helium before he recorded. Its really just a minor complaint from me though, the video was still pretty great and I'm excited to see whats to come from their next videos.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on March 18, 2016, 06:00:57 PM
they're both OP as fuck, don't really care about the winner, i was just glad torian animated them beautifully <3
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on March 18, 2016, 06:52:03 PM
People kept saying "Bayonetta killed a god!" as their reasoning as to why she should have won..... uhm, didn't Dante do the same thing? DMC1's Mundus might as well be the equivalent of a god. Or that giant godlike statue in DMC4 (Pretty sure it was called "Savior")? I really don't see how people doubted Dante would win. Yeah Bayonetta is powerful too, but to Dante this was just another day at work for him. Still that was one of the best DB animations I've ever seen from them, but my only complaint is their fandubbing is.....ehh......I mean I get it if they couldn't get Reuben Langdon for Dante and whoever Bayonetta's voice actress is, but I think they could've at least just used voice clips from the games. Whoever was voicing Dante in that video sounded like if Reuben Langdon swallowed a shitload of helium before he recorded. Its really just a minor complaint from me though, the video was still pretty great and I'm excited to see whats to come from their next videos.
This literally cannot happen. When an actor is contracted to do work for a specific character or company they can't do that character for another company. This is why despite Chris Sabat voicing Snake for this show he couldn't voice Vegeta. Unless Capcom specifically gave them the okay then they couldn't use Reuben even if he was willing to.
As for the god thing, this is the equation
Bayonetta kills a weakened Jubileus and neededed Jeanne's help. Dante kills full powered Mundus who created an entire universe for the sole purpose of getting to fight Dante one day.
Bayonetta's feats are extremely exaggerated especially compared to Dante's. People conveniently leave out that Jubileus was weakened and Bayonetta still couldn't finish the fight on her own.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on March 19, 2016, 12:19:30 AM
the real problem was Bayo durability , she may be able to do things Dante can't but its not like she can tank what he can
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on March 19, 2016, 09:49:38 PM
New OMM Heihachi vs Geese
Spoilers discussion
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Bullshit. Heihachi may have cartoonishly high defense to survive just about anything but he simply does not have the stopping power to put down Geese himself. This battle was stupidly handled.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on March 19, 2016, 09:55:46 PM
People kept saying "Bayonetta killed a god!" as their reasoning as to why she should have won..... uhm, didn't Dante do the same thing? DMC1's Mundus might as well be the equivalent of a god. Or that giant godlike statue in DMC4 (Pretty sure it was called "Savior")? I really don't see how people doubted Dante would win. Yeah Bayonetta is powerful too, but to Dante this was just another day at work for him. Still that was one of the best DB animations I've ever seen from them, but my only complaint is their fandubbing is.....ehh......I mean I get it if they couldn't get Reuben Langdon for Dante and whoever Bayonetta's voice actress is, but I think they could've at least just used voice clips from the games. Whoever was voicing Dante in that video sounded like if Reuben Langdon swallowed a shitload of helium before he recorded. Its really just a minor complaint from me though, the video was still pretty great and I'm excited to see whats to come from their next videos.
This literally cannot happen. When an actor is contracted to do work for a specific character or company they can't do that character for another company. This is why despite Chris Sabat voicing Snake for this show he couldn't voice Vegeta. Unless Capcom specifically gave them the okay then they couldn't use Reuben even if he was willing to.
As for the god thing, this is the equation
Bayonetta kills a weakened Jubileus and neededed Jeanne's help. Dante kills full powered Mundus who created an entire universe for the sole purpose of getting to fight Dante one day.
Bayonetta's feats are extremely exaggerated especially compared to Dante's. People conveniently leave out that Jubileus was weakened and Bayonetta still couldn't finish the fight on her own.
Actually you missed the same thing for Dante:
While Dante did not fight a weakened Mundus, he did NOT fight Mundus without help:
- He had the complete Sparda Sword which gave him the powers of Sparda, you know, the guy who sealed Mundus - At the final battle, Dante COULDN'T defeat the weakened as hell Mundus without Trish, the being Mundus created with his own powers, giving him a boost to reseal him again.
So yeah, Bayonetta needed help defeating a weakened Jubileus, but so did Dante on 2 occasions with Mundus.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on March 20, 2016, 12:21:02 AM
New OMM Heihachi vs Geese [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqNV_pcRCd0[/youtube]
Spoilers discussion
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Bullshit. Heihachi may have cartoonishly high defense to survive just about anything but he simply does not have the stopping power to put down Geese himself. This battle was stupidly handled.
it seems I have to sub to that new channel to see OMM again, yet I don't want to end up watching everything else that i have no intrest in watching, guess I well have to just keep checking the forums here, also to answer your discussion
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one min, NO RESEARCH this isn't death battle , why do people keep forgeting that ?
also SNK need to try crossing over with Namco
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on March 20, 2016, 04:00:20 AM
People kept saying "Bayonetta killed a god!" as their reasoning as to why she should have won..... uhm, didn't Dante do the same thing? DMC1's Mundus might as well be the equivalent of a god. Or that giant godlike statue in DMC4 (Pretty sure it was called "Savior")? I really don't see how people doubted Dante would win. Yeah Bayonetta is powerful too, but to Dante this was just another day at work for him. Still that was one of the best DB animations I've ever seen from them, but my only complaint is their fandubbing is.....ehh......I mean I get it if they couldn't get Reuben Langdon for Dante and whoever Bayonetta's voice actress is, but I think they could've at least just used voice clips from the games. Whoever was voicing Dante in that video sounded like if Reuben Langdon swallowed a shitload of helium before he recorded. Its really just a minor complaint from me though, the video was still pretty great and I'm excited to see whats to come from their next videos.
This literally cannot happen. When an actor is contracted to do work for a specific character or company they can't do that character for another company. This is why despite Chris Sabat voicing Snake for this show he couldn't voice Vegeta. Unless Capcom specifically gave them the okay then they couldn't use Reuben even if he was willing to.
As for the god thing, this is the equation
Bayonetta kills a weakened Jubileus and neededed Jeanne's help. Dante kills full powered Mundus who created an entire universe for the sole purpose of getting to fight Dante one day.
Bayonetta's feats are extremely exaggerated especially compared to Dante's. People conveniently leave out that Jubileus was weakened and Bayonetta still couldn't finish the fight on her own.
Actually you missed the same thing for Dante:
While Dante did not fight a weakened Mundus, he did NOT fight Mundus without help:
- He had the complete Sparda Sword which gave him the powers of Sparda, you know, the guy who sealed Mundus - At the final battle, Dante COULDN'T defeat the weakened as hell Mundus without Trish, the being Mundus created with his own powers, giving him a boost to reseal him again.
So yeah, Bayonetta needed help defeating a weakened Jubileus, but so did Dante on 2 occasions with Mundus.
>He had the full Sparda sword
So? He had a weapon. If you're going to pull semantics like that then Bayo and Dante both go into every battle with tons of help because a bunch of their weapons are forged from demons (devil arms in Dante's case, Rodin made weapons in Bayo's case).
Also Trish did not help Dante defeat Mundus, she helped SEAL Mundus. Dante had already beaten him when Trish came in.
On top of that, Dante defeated other full powered deities in the form of Argosax the Chaos and The Savior. Either way you spin it he's still above Bayo in terms of feats.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on March 20, 2016, 06:34:54 AM
New OMM Heihachi vs Geese [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqNV_pcRCd0[/youtube]
Spoilers discussion
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Bullshit. Heihachi may have cartoonishly high defense to survive just about anything but he simply does not have the stopping power to put down Geese himself. This battle was stupidly handled.
but....he trained a bear martial arts dude....and can attack through solid robot also fights devil people for a living....heck even his devil zombie wife is asking akuma mattata to sort him out geese lost to terry twice...is terry a devil mang?
No research after all though so i ain't really rooting for anyone in matches like these...
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on March 20, 2016, 07:28:57 AM
shit dawg akuma being forced to kill heihachi isn't a big deal, considering that he sucks at killing people :v
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Xhominid on March 20, 2016, 09:59:12 AM
People kept saying "Bayonetta killed a god!" as their reasoning as to why she should have won..... uhm, didn't Dante do the same thing? DMC1's Mundus might as well be the equivalent of a god. Or that giant godlike statue in DMC4 (Pretty sure it was called "Savior")? I really don't see how people doubted Dante would win. Yeah Bayonetta is powerful too, but to Dante this was just another day at work for him. Still that was one of the best DB animations I've ever seen from them, but my only complaint is their fandubbing is.....ehh......I mean I get it if they couldn't get Reuben Langdon for Dante and whoever Bayonetta's voice actress is, but I think they could've at least just used voice clips from the games. Whoever was voicing Dante in that video sounded like if Reuben Langdon swallowed a shitload of helium before he recorded. Its really just a minor complaint from me though, the video was still pretty great and I'm excited to see whats to come from their next videos.
This literally cannot happen. When an actor is contracted to do work for a specific character or company they can't do that character for another company. This is why despite Chris Sabat voicing Snake for this show he couldn't voice Vegeta. Unless Capcom specifically gave them the okay then they couldn't use Reuben even if he was willing to.
As for the god thing, this is the equation
Bayonetta kills a weakened Jubileus and neededed Jeanne's help. Dante kills full powered Mundus who created an entire universe for the sole purpose of getting to fight Dante one day.
Bayonetta's feats are extremely exaggerated especially compared to Dante's. People conveniently leave out that Jubileus was weakened and Bayonetta still couldn't finish the fight on her own.
Actually you missed the same thing for Dante:
While Dante did not fight a weakened Mundus, he did NOT fight Mundus without help:
- He had the complete Sparda Sword which gave him the powers of Sparda, you know, the guy who sealed Mundus - At the final battle, Dante COULDN'T defeat the weakened as hell Mundus without Trish, the being Mundus created with his own powers, giving him a boost to reseal him again.
So yeah, Bayonetta needed help defeating a weakened Jubileus, but so did Dante on 2 occasions with Mundus.
>He had the full Sparda sword
So? He had a weapon. If you're going to pull semantics like that then Bayo and Dante both go into every battle with tons of help because a bunch of their weapons are forged from demons (devil arms in Dante's case, Rodin made weapons in Bayo's case).
Also Trish did not help Dante defeat Mundus, she helped SEAL Mundus. Dante had already beaten him when Trish came in.
On top of that, Dante defeated other full powered deities in the form of Argosax the Chaos and The Savior. Either way you spin it he's still above Bayo in terms of feats.
I think you completely missed the point...
The Sparda Sword is never categorized as a typical sword to anyone whatsoever, it's blatantly stated to be a damn powerful sword that holds Sparda's own energies into that thing(that's why Dante's DT turns him INTO Sparda). Trying to pretend that it barely matters is just insane.
And yes, he DID need Trish's help to seal off Mundus after that because Dante damn sure couldn't kill him even after being weakened to shit, so what does that seriously tell you?
And are you telling me that the fucking SAVIOR is somewhat equivalent to Jubileus or Loptr? News flash dude, DANTE was supposed to be the core of The Savior and even after that nothing that it showed after absorbing Nero shows it not even being remotely close to Jubileus at half power or Loptr with both Eyes...not even close. And Argosax has shown nothing but hype and words from a game that's hard to even say is canon anymore. And I know since I played DMC2 and paid real good attention to that game and Argosax nor the The Despair Embodied showed anything of being an equal of Mundus.
So no, I'm definitely not putting either The Savior nor Argosax or Despair Embodied on the same level as Weakened Jubileus or Loptr.
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Post by: Long John Killer on March 24, 2016, 02:26:20 AM
They sound so half-hearted in this analysis. Or is it just me?
Spoiler: The opponent is...(click to see content)
Ganon. As it should be, yay.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bluekuma on March 26, 2016, 09:41:04 PM
We all know that ganon is going to win this death battle
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Post by: Negi Springfield on March 30, 2016, 03:37:51 PM
Ganon's setup is here
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Post by: Long John Killer on March 31, 2016, 01:13:01 AM
I have to say, the more I anticipate this match, the more I'm reminded what a load of nonsense Peach vs Zelda was. Now I'm doubly hoping for Ganon to come away with the easy win.
The Anakin parallel cut-off was funny though.
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Post by: R565 on April 02, 2016, 12:25:49 AM
The Perfect Matchup.
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OMG that ending!
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Post by: DatKofGuy on April 02, 2016, 07:32:37 PM
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Urgh... the whole Saitama thing is getting old and over-rated.
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Post by: Long John Killer on April 03, 2016, 12:03:36 AM
Getting?
It's weird being used to how Balthazar intended those sprites and animations and see how they went with them instead. Nice animation, but yeah sorry, the joke's been run in the ground.
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Post by: AlexSin on April 03, 2016, 01:29:01 AM
And they're still using that SFA3 KO voice...
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Post by: Macaulyn97 on April 03, 2016, 04:42:13 AM
You know, its when you see both characters you know well enough about that you notice how Death Battle can be horrible wrong. Hell, how did Dante even kill Madama Butterfly? Gomorrah survived having his neck broken in the first game, because that was just a bunch of hair. Butterfly did not appear by herself even in the fight against Alraune in Inferno, her hair image just fades away right before the fight, why would she come physically against Dante? I also agree with Xhominid. That one should have ended at least in a draw.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on April 03, 2016, 03:47:06 PM
Its Punisher vs the Red Hood
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Post by: Long John Killer on April 04, 2016, 05:07:07 PM
Funny, I was just commenting how I wasn't a real fan of how OMM went with the HDBZ sprites, but that guy's take I like.
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Post by: lui on April 05, 2016, 05:59:39 AM
i dont like how there are no voices at all, it feels empty without em
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Post by: Zemilia on April 06, 2016, 03:14:09 PM
DB's out.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on April 06, 2016, 03:36:53 PM
So can we just up and post sprite/3d crossover fights just because or is this exclusive to DB and OMM that goku vs superman fight was brilliant
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Kirishima on April 06, 2016, 03:51:17 PM
Not surprised at the outcome. One-sided if you ask me.
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Ratchet vs Jak incoming
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Post by: Negi Springfield on April 06, 2016, 04:15:31 PM
You know, its when you see both characters you know well enough about that you notice how Death Battle can be horrible wrong. Hell, how did Dante even kill Madama Butterfly? Gomorrah survived having his neck broken in the first game, because that was just a bunch of hair. Butterfly did not appear by herself even in the fight against Alraune in Inferno, her hair image just fades away right before the fight, why would she come physically against Dante? I also agree with Xhominid. That one should have ended at least in a draw.
"How did a guy who makes a living killing apocalyptically powerful demons kill an apocalyptically powerful demon?"
I have to say, the more I anticipate this match, the more I'm reminded what a load of nonsense Peach vs Zelda was. Now I'm doubly hoping for Ganon to come away with the easy win.
The Anakin parallel cut-off was funny though.
You must be pretty happy with the result : )
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Post by: Xhominid on April 06, 2016, 11:12:03 PM
Mundus as a whole is absolutely not the same as Jubileus nor Loptr with both eyes, not even freaking close.
And do not tell me that Dante has anything above typical regeneration since DB decided he somehow had Deadpool levels of regeneration despite him never even losing his head or even limbs and gaining new ones(hell in DMC3, it's shown he and Vergil can get TIRED if they are continuously hurt, which goes against the Deadpool levels of regen DB put up)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on April 06, 2016, 11:19:39 PM
how long are you two gonna argue about this? people have already moved on, even the creator is getting annoyed by the debates. so should you two.
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Post by: Gennos on April 06, 2016, 11:30:41 PM
Its Punisher vs the Red Hood [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1qdhOSClt8[/youtube]
holy shit man, this battle was insane. i loved it.
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i liked that they made the punisher win. he is obviously more experienced with martial arts, guns and most of all killing (which is something that red hood isn't experienced in ). he tried to hold the punisher in some kind of a nelson hold but got himself stabbed in the leg. that is probably left over from his non lethal training as robin. punisher wouldn't do that, he goes straight for the kill. which is what happened. im probably over analyzing this tho.
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Post by: Kirishima on April 06, 2016, 11:56:32 PM
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ_THlReidQ[/youtube] Funny, I was just commenting how I wasn't a real fan of how OMM went with the HDBZ sprites, but that guy's take I like.
I'm pretty sure Seanaltly did not made the entire Superman sprite set. Someone needs to tell the vid maker that.
Otherwise, I like how this turned out.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 07, 2016, 01:11:38 AM
The animation could have been better, loved the tennis gag though, but yeah, this was a good Death Battle overall for me.
And yeah, as the guy who made the thread, I have no issue with posting whatever match-up fights. Guess the thread might need a new name to not confuse people though.
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Post by: Jmorphman on April 07, 2016, 01:36:31 AM
how long are you two gonna argue about this? people have already moved on, even the creator is getting annoyed by the debates. so should you two.
Yeah. Seriously. There's already a new video up. The time for arguing about Dante vs. Bayonetta is over; drop the subject now.
(also Bayonetta would totally win I declare it to be so with mod powers)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 07, 2016, 02:40:27 AM
I always knew you'd turn to the Dark Side with your mod powers, Jmorphman.
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So I don't know what's been going on in Ratchet's world ever since Deadlocked. Is there anything new to guarantee him a win against Jak? Clank had a skyscraper-sized mode, but could only be used in certain locations. And Jak could become a giant himself and has a giant mech too, though not THAT big. That RYNO gun isn't that much more different than Jak's nuke. The sheep gun is my guess at his best bet.
But Jak could just go Light Jak, heal any damage, force field everything and just walk up to Ratchet and blow his brains out for a simple win or something. Even fly after him if he tries to get airborne.
I like Ratchet and Clank, but I loved Jak & Daxter, and I gotta go with them. As far as I know, it seems in their favor.
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Post by: Neo_Fire_Sonic on April 07, 2016, 04:54:10 AM
So I don't know what's been going on in Ratchet's world ever since Deadlocked. Is there anything new to guarantee him a win against Jak? Clank had a skyscraper-sized mode, but could only be used in certain locations. And Jak could become a giant himself and has a giant mech too, though not THAT big. That RYNO gun isn't that much more different than Jak's nuke. The sheep gun is my guess at his best bet.
But Jak could just go Light Jak, heal any damage, force field everything and just walk up to Ratchet and blow his brains out for a simple win or something. Even fly after him if he tries to get airborne.
I like Ratchet and Clank, but I loved Jak & Daxter, and I gotta go with them. As far as I know, it seems in their favor.
Clank can control time fully
Jak can use only one move variation when in light jak mode
Also.... there's groovatron.(aside from clank and ratchet, literally makes everyone stop what they're doing to dance. Bosses and allies included) Ratchet has instant win, it'll be as one sided as batman vs spiderman pluuuuuuuuus
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Zurkon family (3 spawnable extra bots at his dispersal that shoot everything in range for a split time) Miniturret gun Liquid nitrogen gun Black hole gun anti gravity boots Hover boots ariel mobility thanks to clank clanks robot control dummies....lots and lots of decoys flamethrower inferno armour Gun modifications giving feats like napalm and shit an AIMABLE sniper(something jak doesn't have) Ship mastery, though i doubt it'd have to come to that sheepinator trackable following mines tornado controlling gun(it was a bitch to use but eh) Portable vending machine to help get ammo RYNO And like 150 or more to see. To be a R&C master is my, DESTINY
I can't remember everything, but the match is so one sided i'd rather them not fight
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 07, 2016, 11:44:38 PM
If Ratchet's little buddy had become a time lord since Deadlocked I'd presume there were no bad guys ever present to worry about in future games. I'm guessing it's some sort of gun that rewinds damage? Or likewise only accessible in certain environments like his giant form.
Not an exact comparison but would you expect them to give a lame ending of just messing with time to pull a win for one side that seemed on the verge of defeat?
From a gameplay perspective yeah, you can do one thing at a time with Light Jak, but gameplay limitations and what the actual powers do are two different things. I'm also presuming the force field is not literally able to stop any and everything, but I'm also expecting he can do that while healing and flying and shooting holy hand grenades nukes.
Looking at the wiki, this Groovatron looks more like a short gimmick than anything useful. Jak'd grimace at disco music sucking, shoot it and move on.
I dunno, still sounds in Jak's favor, mostly do to Light Jak. Does Ratchet even do defense? I know he's not hurt from his own toys, was explained away as weapons scan their owners to know who they can't hurt or something silly like that in the earlier games, but beyond shinier colors of power armor he's pretty open to Jak's arsenal.
Oh, you edited your list. Eh, that still seems like something you'd just dodge, block or fly around for most of it. The replenishing ammo seems Ratchet's biggest asset of all of those.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on April 08, 2016, 12:20:11 AM
He gets a Staff that controls time Gameplay wise: He can throw out projectiles that open up and make everything in a radius Super slow mo. throwing out a second one will cancel the first one making the second one He can record himself doing things then go back in time to set it, the recording will basically be him doing said task exactly how he did it. (so he could record himself fighting, say daxter and then go back in time to set the clone recording to fight him, while the original can do something else......most likely sandwhich him or slow down daxter) And melee attacks
Plot wise:
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Ratchet was attacked from behind with a lethal attack in crack in time and clank with his power of friendship went "fuck responsibility" and reversed time exactly to sort out the mistake...
He's become a mary sue
Again, gameplay wise for jak. he can't use weapons when in either eco form unless from glitch. When he heals time freezes completely and he uses all of the light eco energy he had. it's not something he can multitask with
its never used in plot
Groovatron literally makes you vulnerable if you're not ratchet and clank, Stopping all enemies and allies for a limited time while ratchet shoots/ takes cover. not something jak can power through
Black hole gun is an instant kill to all human sized enemies, he can use it 5 times. Shooting multiple black holes close together makes the black hole bigger. I can't remember what it did when fully leveled up
Jak has some things at his disposal but.... just like bayo vs dante, everything jak has, ratchet has as well/ more of
also zurkon family is indestructable, only way for them to go away is from them running out of ammo (THEM running out of ammo, not you running out. When they go you can just bring them out again. it's mad OP)
All and all, Ratchet gets a new bunch of weapons in each title with very very little being passed on over for upgrades and shit. I don't remember every gun and gimmick power they have along side the fully leveled up version that adds a new power/gimmick entirely but it's more than enough at disposal
Example, Ratchet has gravity boots( a step up from his magnet ones) that can counter the peacemaker's 1st upgrade.
Pluuuuuuuuuuuuus
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Ricocheting shuriken, that can home in when leveled up Clank (optional, doubt it'd be brought up) being able to go ratchet sized to help underwater mobility(doubt it'd also be brought up) 10 canon years of experience (started of 15 in the first ps2 game and in nexus was 25 and a lot more mature than before.) extra Durability to environmental attacks. Jak dies instantly touching lava/dark eco while ratchet will take a couple hits before dying Swing shot(doubt it'd be used) better aim(no recoil when shooting anything), and acrobatics experience in hacking and puzzles(jak only has the latter) Experience in engineering (jak had green haired babe to do that)
I'm not ripping on jak and daxter, i've played all of both franchises games aside from secret agent clank but if we're counting dark daxter, thats all daxter has against clank
i'd much prefer him fight someone like samus or master chief since this is one sided to a whole new level
p.s. Jak isn't invincible anymore in his eco forms(it was removed after jak 2)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 08, 2016, 12:55:06 AM
Uh...it's been a while since I've played Jak 3, but I've never glitched it and Light Jak plays just like regular Jak, punches, kicks and his swiss army gun all available. Unless I've had a defective copy of the game and my whole life has been a lie. Give or take. Dark Jak was the one that he plays all different like, getting sharp nails to cuts things up and shooting dark eco and energy balls everywhere.
...Actually, wait, that reminds me, just exposing Ratchet to Dark Jak would be all sorts of toxic that he couldn't respond to. Also a totally weak way to win, but gosh darn it, it should have worked with Lex Luthor and Iron Man, those Kryptonite Blasts were lethal to anyone not prepared!
But yeah, I can't complain if they make Ratchet win, but it just seems a simple case of evasion and defense helping Jak until he gets the hit he needs. The only defense you said for Ratchet was from a gameplay perspective he takes more hits, but seeing Death Battle doesn't run on mechanics like that, thus no insta-death for Mario or Sonic or Mega Man, I don't know how much that'll play into it.
I mean, you mention Master Chief. In game, you can have two plasma bolts for sheilds and a third to kill you on Legendary. In canon, the whole plasma pistol and headshot thing? Doesn't work. Heck, you have things like this (https://youtu.be/2kPvBqSlIEc?t=825) not outright killing you instantly, splattering that head into red mist. And that's the less impressive armor. And Samus runs on a ridiculously high energy shielding setting in game, but the armor freaking explodes from a simple tap afterwords.
In spite of all this, while I believe Jak should win, I think they'll favor with Ratchet, what with the movie coming up and all.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on April 08, 2016, 04:30:49 PM
That last sentence threw me off. I don't want it to be like the yang v tifa where they set tifa up to fail because of the merging/tribute to what's his face (i don't remember his name sorry)
I don't know if ratchets been exposed to radiation, but general toxic environments have been covered more than enough in ratchet and clank games, be it just clank himself or ratchet with gas masks and what not
Dark jak Does have more ranged moves which end his form duration instantly like dark bomb and dark twist
I might have to relook into what light jak can actually do though since my memory is hazy.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on April 09, 2016, 09:45:18 PM
New OMM
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Post by: DatKofGuy on April 09, 2016, 10:39:39 PM
I wonder if anyone pointed out that Natsu is from Fairy Tail and not Hunter X Hunter... I guess they stick by their motto "No Research"
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Post by: AlexSin on April 09, 2016, 11:14:26 PM
No, there's only like half the comments on the video saying that...
Edit: It looks like they fixed the title.
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Post by: Long John Killer on April 10, 2016, 03:47:30 AM
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Post by: Long John Killer on April 15, 2016, 12:13:41 AM
Not much news, but at the 17 mark they're showing off some previews of the next match's fight.
I guess Daxter's getting used for ammunition for the vacuum gun. He always did want to go out in a blaze of glory.
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Post by: Gennos on April 17, 2016, 06:17:42 PM
if you had Darth Maul fight any character who would you want him to be? im asking because i've been thinking about this for a while and i couldn't really find a character suitable for him outside of his universe. you would want him to fight a character who can resist the force and uses weapons, and not just any weapons. they need to be able to hold their own against lightsabers. you wouldn't want him to be too strong and wind up with the same result as the darth vader fight. maul is easily killable, so you can't really go for kratos, dante or any other semi immortal character.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Titiln on April 17, 2016, 06:20:19 PM
if you had Darth Maul fight any character who would you want him to be?
george lucas
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 17, 2016, 07:27:49 PM
The only real vs debate with Maul I've seen go around, beyond against other Siths, is with Spider-Man's Carnage. And that's probably more because of their visual similarities, rather than characteristics or abilities or scope of power.
I didn't like Carnage all too much, so I never followed him closely. The handful of comics I have that include him, which I think is just three, says he's Venom but smaller yet stronger. Weak against loud noises, makes all his power go away and the suit will drip off the wearer, but it has to be really freaking loud. Not something Maul'll pull out, unless you throw in a starship for him.
Plus Super Power Beat Down already did something close enough (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF6XHxVlPpI), so Death Battle probably wouldn't bother. I'm willing to bet Spider-Man has a better chance than Carnage anyways.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on April 17, 2016, 08:33:00 PM
other than making maul groan alot and... talk, that was a cool battle. not a big fan of how it ended, i wanted to see how both characters would've fared without additional powers. this alternative ending implied that if both maul and spidy got venom powers maul would win, so i guess he would win if they both didn't have it. now that i think about the prefect character to face darth maul would have to be raiden from mgs. both are equally strong, he's swords are electrically charged so they could resist the lightsaber. damn i wanna see this happen.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on April 21, 2016, 12:46:34 AM
Jak & Daxter's preview is out.
Well...normally, they don't give enough to work off in these previews to see how they're going to go about evaluating the characters, but here they focus way too much on the first game, not even mentioning the time traveling done to make his story make sense, that I'm left feeling that when they do the complete disclosure on Jak in the full thing they'll make it seem overbearingly obvious why he would win.
Which, yeah, I think he should, but they didn't even touch on the topic of his weapons. Or Dark or Light eco, just the basic first game eco. Which isn't even a real part of II and III. Though I guess it returned somewhat in that handheld title, going by the clips.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on April 21, 2016, 06:10:45 PM
that preview was bad in general same with the ratchet and clank one
for a gaming channel they seem reeeeeaaaally casual to playstation's IPs
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on April 23, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
New OMM AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: hatter on April 23, 2016, 09:37:41 PM
Oh wow, that was cool.
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I like how Guile helps Captain America from falling, only to be thanked by a fuck you kick to the face :laugh:
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on April 23, 2016, 09:42:29 PM
The fight is cool and all but i'm really tired of match-ups that are common and predictable. Why are we getting Marvel vs Capcom matches or JUMP matches using JUMP All-Star sprites? Those already exist, I crave original fights like Izayoi vs DIO.
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Post by: EveryonesKouhai on April 23, 2016, 09:53:01 PM
The fight is cool and all but i'm really tired of match-ups that are common and predictable. Why are we getting Marvel vs Capcom matches or JUMP matches using JUMP All-Star sprites? Those already exist, I crave original fights like Izayoi vs DIO.
There's only 4 episodes out this season and they've only done that twice
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Post by: Knuckles8864 on April 24, 2016, 01:22:44 AM
The fight is cool and all but i'm really tired of match-ups that are common and predictable. Why are we getting Marvel vs Capcom matches or JUMP matches using JUMP All-Star sprites? Those already exist, I crave original fights like Izayoi vs DIO.
wasn't sonic vs goku fitting? heihachi vs geese not good enough? ace vs n- ahhh well i hated that too
i miss the select screen since that had all the upcoming fights announced, now we are left guessing
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Post by: Negi Springfield on April 24, 2016, 06:02:10 AM
The fight is cool and all but i'm really tired of match-ups that are common and predictable. Why are we getting Marvel vs Capcom matches or JUMP matches using JUMP All-Star sprites? Those already exist, I crave original fights like Izayoi vs DIO.
wasn't sonic vs goku fitting? heihachi vs geese not good enough? ace vs n- ahhh well i hated that too i miss the select screen since that had all the upcoming fights announced, now we are left guessing
Hey now, I don't wanna feel ungratefull or anything, it's just that when I comb my new subscriptions and see a video labeled Death Battle/OMM (I don't keep up with the previews) for one solid moment it captures my imagination again and then i'm disappointed to see that it's something that already has an official cross-over of some sort. I didn't think that was something people actually wasted their time on. And i'm not saying doing an already established cross-over can't be well done or anything i'm just saying it makes me anxious for what the next one will be instead.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on April 25, 2016, 05:10:58 AM
so you're not feeling the upcoming DB then?
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Post by: Zemilia on April 27, 2016, 03:05:26 PM
It's out.
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Post by: Darkflare on April 27, 2016, 08:11:11 PM
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Safe to assume Flash's opponent will be Quicksilver. Now, I'm no expert in comic books, but I distinctively remember Flash's Speed force being hilariously broken and I'm not sure Quicksilver has anything that can counter it.
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Post by: Titiln on April 27, 2016, 08:13:00 PM
Safe to assume Flash's opponent will be Quicksilver. Now, I'm no expert in comic books, but I distinctively remember Flash's Speed force being hilariously broken and I'm not sure Quicksilver has anything that can counter it.
Yep.
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Post by: Gennos on April 27, 2016, 09:02:29 PM
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what about sonic? sonic could be his opponent. edit: yep im gonna say it's sonic, he did have a death battle before. but batman fought twice so it's not really a rule.
oh and this battle was meh, the animation and the effects were not good, lol at that "3 dimensional" explosion.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on April 27, 2016, 09:15:45 PM
leonardo, batman, superman and goku have fought twice
Sonic is crazy op when looking at the feats he's done.....buuuuuuut i dont think they'll bring it up. probably quicksilver or roadrunner
as for the DB itself
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called it
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Post by: Long John Killer on April 28, 2016, 02:10:46 AM
Well meh, that was a disappointing ending. But presumed it would happen, oh well, Jak still wins in my book. Next fight.
I don't really care for a match with Flash. Guessing it'll be Quicksilver, judging by they're going by more fan requested matches now. Would prefer it would be someone on a more level playing field, but I can't say I'm really interested in it anyways. Sonic would be more interesting if they went with the Archie one at least.
Actually, though it's not going to happen, I would be interested in seeing, instead of two fast guys, someone play the role of the immovable object versus Flash's unstoppable force. Though who's supposedly that immune at such a cosmic level, I don't know.
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Post by: Bea on April 28, 2016, 03:56:13 AM
Flash for the next fight? Guy is even more broken than Superman (way faster than Superman too). This will be really one sided unless they pick a cosmic entity or uber powered being like Darkseid. Flash outran Death itself. :|
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Post by: Jmorphman on April 28, 2016, 05:37:56 AM
Yeah... Quicksilver's top speed is somewhere in the super-sonic range. The Flash regularly goes faster than light. :-\
Sonic doesn't seem much fairer either; I know he's done some crazy shit in the Archie Comics but the Flash is just nuts. Plus, the Flash already raced Sonic and won!!! (http://www.amazon.com/Flash-Human-Race-Grant-Morrison/dp/1401222390) (http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/8/8b/Krakkl_01.jpg)
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Post by: Long John Killer on April 28, 2016, 06:03:21 AM
They should have used Flash for an April Fool's episode, go full in-depth and make it seem like a fair fight, just so they can end it right as soon as they start the fight.
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Post by: Bea on April 29, 2016, 09:52:35 PM
OK... so... how is this even a fight? Quicksilver stand no chance here. None, zero.
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on April 29, 2016, 10:01:19 PM
And yet, Quicksilver somehow still ends up winning, because lol ScrewAttack
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Post by: Speedpreacher on April 29, 2016, 10:33:39 PM
That ain't a battle
It's a goddamn curbstomp
And if they pull some bullshit like "lol no speedforce in the Marvel universe" they'd still be wrong because an amnesiac Barry wandered into the Marvel Universe still won a race and was crowned the fastest man in the galaxy there
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Post by: Lichtbringer on April 29, 2016, 10:56:42 PM
And if they pull some bullshit like "lol no speedforce in the Marvel universe" they'd still be wrong because an amnesiac Barry wandered into the Marvel Universe still won a race and was crowned the fastest man in the galaxy there
Ah yes as "Fastforward". ^^
Afaik Quicksilver can somtimes run at lightspeed now, but I don't know if this a permanent change or if he can do that sometimes or whatever, I don't read the comics anymore, but I think he still don't has a chance against a DC speedster.
But I'm afraid that the Death Battle Guys will try some Bullshit like Flash "Runs too fast" and becomes one with the speedforce or something like that.
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Post by: Seadragon77 on April 30, 2016, 12:25:27 AM
No, seriously. Everyone knew this was the match up. The big question is how badly will Quicksilver be embarrassed by?
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Post by: Long John Killer on April 30, 2016, 12:40:07 AM
He'll run into Quicksilver's spiky hair so fast it'll impale Flash, killing him.
Calling it. Makes as much sense as anything else, really.
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Post by: Gennos on April 30, 2016, 12:45:52 AM
i remember from one of the cartoons that the flash has a power that makes him pass through solid objects, which in turn kinda makes him invincible. so yeah i can see why this fight seems unfair. im not interested in either characters so i won't hold my breath. wish they would do another fight with batman, and make him fight either daredevil or the punisher.
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Post by: rgveda99 on April 30, 2016, 02:55:35 AM
I'm not updated but can Quicksilver still do his time travelling abilities after he lost his powers in House of M and gained his new powers like temporal dupes when he was exposed to terrigen mist?
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on May 01, 2016, 11:09:51 PM
rumor is they got a new animator to do this DB
better not be like 2 minutes long like a few others *coughsektorvsfulgorecough*
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Post by: Long John Killer on May 02, 2016, 07:28:15 AM
So, like, there is a Super Power Beat Down thread, but it's been dead for over a year now, so I'm just going to leave this here, yeah? Otherwise I'll just repost there if needed.
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It's been a while since I've read them, I'd need to find where I left them, but I recall it taking freaking forever for Shockwave to hack Prime's living severed head in the G1 comics. I have trouble believing Tony does it by pointing at the alien he has nothing on.
Other wise, yeah, they did good for this episode, not being live action and all. I like the winner, Bayformers Prime or not, chances are at that close in the polls they'll do an alt. ending, good show.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on May 02, 2016, 09:32:41 AM
Do those polls even matter? This is like what... the 10th time or so ive seen it being a 51-49 split...
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Post by: Negi Springfield on May 02, 2016, 05:35:02 PM
It was animated by the same guy who did the Dante vs Deadpool video earlier in this topic. He's certainly improved quite a bit. Either that or animating robots leaves more room for jittery movement then humans... but still, good battle over all and I like the outcome even if I felt Ironman was given a bit too much leeway.
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Post by: Jmorphman on May 02, 2016, 09:36:42 PM
And if they pull some bullshit like "lol no speedforce in the Marvel universe" they'd still be wrong because an amnesiac Barry wandered into the Marvel Universe still won a race and was crowned the fastest man in the galaxy there
Dunno what you guys are talking about, that wasn't Barry Allen, it was Buried Alien (http://i.imgur.com/nqOczPG.jpg) a completely unrelated speedster wearing a tattered red and yellow uniform who calls himself the fastest man alive. Not sure why you're getting confused!
I'm not updated but can Quicksilver still do his time travelling abilities after he lost his powers in House of M and gained his new powers like temporal dupes when he was exposed to terrigen mist?
Pretty sure he completely lost those abilities once he got his regular powers back, but even if they're included in this matchup, they wouldn't really be an challenge to the Flash.
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Post by: Lichtbringer on May 03, 2016, 09:09:25 PM
I wonder if they'll bring up that time he boned his sister while Wolverine watched.
That serves no purpose in a death battle. Why would they bring up something not related to his abilities.
Have you seen Guts vs Nightmare?
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Boom and Wiz weren't shy about mentioning how Guts was ass raped as a kid.
Though that kinda had to do with one of his skills.
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Post by: Darkflare on May 18, 2016, 08:29:05 PM
Act surprised
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Next DB has Joker. Any ideas who the opponent is?
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Post by: Long John Killer on May 18, 2016, 10:32:01 PM
That was surprisingly well animated and enjoyable, knowing the victor or not. I still enjoy Astro Boy vs Mega Man better for 2D, but this is up there with it. Just wish they did something about Flash's eyes. The color kept on changing back and forth.
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Let's presume it's not Kefka and going 2 for 2 on the obvious winner train or Brave and the Bold Joker (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xjKwdLAucw). My vote's for Needles Kane/Sweet Tooth.
Both are insane clowns causing major havoc for heroes of the series such as Batman and....what qualifies as a hero in Twisted Metal. Axel, I guess. They're also a considerable nuisance to more super-powered adversaries like Superman and Calypso for just being human. They both have their weird oddities for weapons and gadgets. Needles has his machete and flame powers, Joker has deadly shocking joy buzzers and punching gloves. Joker occasionally has the weird bot or mech to match Needles' decked out ice cream truck and/or transformer.
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Post by: AlexSin on May 18, 2016, 10:42:01 PM
10:44 of the video to get to the battle.
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Post by: Seadragon77 on May 19, 2016, 12:09:16 AM
Total shocker... :lol:
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As for the next battle, I'll echo Long John Killer's idea for Sweet Tooth largely because the other options IMO, which are Kefka and Hazama/Terumi (whichever one they want to use, it don't matter), are more then a little overpowered for The Joker to face... although that never really stopped the Joker, I believe
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Post by: Gennos on May 19, 2016, 12:10:26 AM
if we're gonna go by the clown gimmick then im gonna guess it's gonna be the mask. comic book arch nemesis gimmick however, it's either red skull or green goblin
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Post by: Long John Killer on May 19, 2016, 12:18:00 AM
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It's been a while since I've seen The Mask in any form, but isn't he immune to death a la cartoon physics, like Bugs Bunny? Seems an unfair advantage in a death match.
Green Goblin's superhuman, matching Spider-Man, so Joker's kinda mis-matched there. Red Skull is a possibility...I personally wouldn't find it very interesting at all though, so I hope not. Plus the clown match up sounds so much more fun.
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Post by: Gennos on May 19, 2016, 12:33:08 AM
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joker vs sweet tooth would be cool i guess, im not sure though if sweet tooth is well known enough to appear here. twisted metal is not exactly a mainstream franchise
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Post by: Zo_Warudo on May 19, 2016, 12:49:14 AM
joker vs sweet tooth would be cool i guess, im not sure though if sweet tooth is well known enough to appear here. twisted metal is not exactly a mainstream franchise
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We have a deathbattle where Starscream fights Rainbow Dash, I think anything is possible by their standards.
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Post by: Long John Killer on May 19, 2016, 01:29:52 AM
I'm fairly certain neither Transformers nor My Little Pony are unknowns. Nor the sole factor of face recognition to be the driving factor of a character showing, at least for both contestants. And I'm fairly sure we all know one of them. That said...
At this point, it's more interesting to discuss possible matches personally.
Spoiler: And waste time making these posters(click to see content)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/LlongJohnKiller/DeathBattleMarinaArale_zpshvgzzkzq.png) Because gag powers and breaking the laws of physics is a common feature among android maid children.
I've suggested some odd characters before, so hey, I could be completely off base and they have someone completely different in mind for the other challenger.
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Post by: Kirishima on May 19, 2016, 02:48:39 AM
Great to see the custom Flash sprites from Mugen getting the limelight here. The battle itself was very well put together.
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Yeaaaa I got nothing on who Mr. J will fight against. I am more leaning towards Rorschach just to see the custom sprites of both.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on May 19, 2016, 11:59:07 AM
Nice first time DB from kixx6 i like how
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the death is unintentional, doesn't make flash a psychopathic killer with this. outcome was predictable but the fight was great
As for next time of death battle
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No more curbstomp matchups please. sweet tooth has a fucking mech ffs, let alone no mind fuckery is gonna work against a guy with a machete and chainsaw. plus his car alone is fucking deadly
also green goblin is just as one sided...
unless its really random like wolverine vs raiden or kratos vs spawn where they put joker against bugs bunny or some shit. almost all sensible unoriginal matchups are one sid-
joker vs harley quinn? they made the turtles fight eachother and the 3 starter pokemon, i wouldn't mind another same franchise fight
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Post by: major jon on May 20, 2016, 12:37:27 AM
Surprised no one suggested Joker vs Deadpool
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Post by: Long John Killer on May 20, 2016, 02:48:26 AM
Because one of them has been used already before.
And the relation between Joker and Deadpool is...? Plus the mis-match in power, Joker has no chance of winning.
That said, after much thinking on it, I believe I have the perfect match up to keep things fair for our next combatant.
Alright, I guess no need for spoilers, Screw Attack went and posted who the next fight will be. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci2IMKnVAAIlS0l.jpg:large) Yay, I was right.
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Post by: Gennos on May 20, 2016, 03:56:06 AM
show off >:( this should be an interesting fight tho, both are in the same level so we won't witness a curbstomp like this last one. and as far as i know there are no sprites for sweat tooth so we are in for a 3D spectacle :D
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Post by: Kirishima on May 20, 2016, 04:10:53 AM
Will Joker pick up the ice cream cone and pay for it?
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Post by: Long John Killer on May 20, 2016, 04:37:41 AM
My guess, one of them is probably going to wish Calypso to make them the best clown ever, which results in them fighting to the death over it.
I'm going to have to go for Needles in this case. Joker has enough tricks and traps to keep him alive up close and personal so Needles doesn't just cleave his head off, but not much going for him to then kill him. And outside close range, Joker has robots small and large in BTAS, but not quite in the same scope the Sweet Tooth truck and mech cover in destruction.
Also it'll just be funny for Batman to get revenge on Sweet Tooth for killing Joker in the credits.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on May 20, 2016, 10:12:45 AM
show off >:( this should be an interesting fight tho, both are in the same level so we won't witness a curbstomp like this last one. and as far as i know there are no sprites for sweat tooth so we are in for a 3D spectacle :D
HE HAS A MECH MECH
A FUCKING DEATH MACHINE ON LEGS not only is his car a fucking death machine and not only did he wipe out an intire hospital single handedly but literally with no goons on jokers side its a curbstomp
think jak vs ratchet again.... you think laughing gas is gonna do much to a man with a MECH
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Post by: Seadragon77 on May 20, 2016, 05:31:12 PM
But, people have seen Sweet Tooth outside of the mech thanks to PSASBR. He used a lot of the same weapons the Joker has used over the years..
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Post by: Beta158 on May 21, 2016, 02:20:20 PM
Well look at this. This should be an interesting death battle.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on May 21, 2016, 10:16:57 PM
week early?
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Post by: Lichtbringer on May 22, 2016, 11:36:03 AM
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I like the fight, I always hated Mecha Sonic, and I love how he get's finished. ;D
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on May 22, 2016, 05:13:18 PM
i hope you guys like arcade mode cuz saitama vs superman is out
Though its fan vote based, these fights usually come with an alt ending where the loser wins
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ryu vs jin coming next i'm hype
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Post by: DatKofGuy on May 23, 2016, 02:06:22 AM
Strange that he is using a reskinned Akira model for Ryu.
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Post by: Long John Killer on May 23, 2016, 06:40:05 AM
Eh. The animation really wasn't all that spectacular, more Saitama nonsense for jokes, more Superman the ass a la Screw Attack, so kinda what I was expecting to come out of it. I'm not sure quoting and doing scenes from Man of Steel or Batman V Superman are supposed to be good or bad for Supes either. Not exactly thrilled about Ryu and Jin either, but the preview looked nice at least.
That Superman model is really off looking. And I think it's the one Screw Attack used in their second video too. What's it from anyways?
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Post by: DatKofGuy on May 23, 2016, 08:47:07 AM
Its the New 52 skin from Injustice
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Post by: D.R.B on May 23, 2016, 09:38:02 PM
the thing there is that Superman would have won if he did lunch Saitama to the empty space rather then the moon , and so would Boros
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Post by: Negi Springfield on May 23, 2016, 11:59:36 PM
As much as I hate Superman for being a generally boring character, I hate Saitama's meme status even more. Can it just die already? He couldn't even beat Kenshiro in an actual fight.
Oh and as far as the result of the match goes...
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Post by: Duos.act on May 24, 2016, 12:38:45 AM
There's no meme to it. Read One Punch Man. Saitama is genuinely that strong. His entire character is a joke on characters like Superman or ridiculously strong comic book heroes and how doing power battles with them is pointless.
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Post by: Foobs on May 24, 2016, 01:22:01 AM
As much as I hate Superman for being a generally boring character, I hate Saitama's meme status even more. Can it just die already? He couldn't even beat Kenshiro in an actual fight.
Caped Baldy routinely wipes the floor with the strongest martial artists of his world. Some of those 'losers' are mountain crushing behemoths who move faster than sound and are several times stronger than Kenshiro.
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Post by: Seadragon77 on May 24, 2016, 02:39:22 AM
Now that it's been proven that the One Punch Man can beat Superman... is there anyone that could even stand up to this guy? Someone out there has to be able to take more then one punch from this guy, right?
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on May 24, 2016, 11:11:42 AM
power wise? maybe one dude? but hes also animu
technical wise, like a bajillion people
he can't breathe in space
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on May 24, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Now that it's been proven that the One Punch Man can beat Superman... is there anyone that could even stand up to this guy? Someone out there has to be able to take more then one punch from this guy, right?
Like I said: We need someone who can absorb the damage of Saitama's punches and reflect it back to Saitama. It's that easy.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on May 24, 2016, 04:13:19 PM
As much as I hate Superman for being a generally boring character, I hate Saitama's meme status even more. Can it just die already? He couldn't even beat Kenshiro in an actual fight. Oh and as far as the result of the match goes...
Caped Baldy routinely wipes the floor with the strongest martial artists of his world. Some of those 'losers' are mountain crushing behemoths who move faster than sound and are several times stronger than Kenshiro.
That's the thing. Kenshiro and Hokuto Shin-Ken itself are the antithesis to raw strength. Kenshiro isn't even the strongest of the Hokuto Brothers and yet he was chosen as the successor. Except for the fact that Kenshiro can get cut like the rest of us and can drown like a normal person (latter is filler) he only has 2 "weaknesses"
1) If you know a Martial Art he can't tank you because... 2) Heightened mental/spiritual strength forms a "touki" which is more or less HNK's version of a Power Level. If you do not have a Touki Kenshiro is INVINCIBLE to you. This has never once in the series been contradicted except for the first two points I mentioned. So for Example; Jotaro himself may or may not being able to actually hurt Kenshiro but since Star Platinum is a manifestation of Jotaro's spirit, it could. ect.
But none of that matters because Kenshiro would still lose to Saitama for one simple reason. Kenshiro never goes into a fight at 100%. He always goes in with an average persons's strength/durability of 10% (HNK logic) and lets his foes get a few good hits in before he gets serious. Saitama would just 1-punch him then and there.
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Post by: Xhominid on May 24, 2016, 05:37:27 PM
There's no meme to it. Read One Punch Man. Saitama is genuinely that strong. His entire character is a joke on characters like Superman or ridiculously strong comic book heroes and how doing power battles with them is pointless.
Actually, it is a meme...and a horribly done one but only in the context of vs. fights that uses what the character has done currently, not what can be guessed at.
Narutoforums, for example, despises Saitama and everything he stands for when used in VS. environments because people try and use how powerful he COULD BE rather than what he has shown.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on May 25, 2016, 04:09:25 PM
Joker preview
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Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on May 25, 2016, 05:57:54 PM
Unless i missed some thing that changed recently i think Saitama is able to breathe in space. We would need more scenes to know honestly. The way i took the scene of him on the moon is that he doesnt need oxygen, hell in the scene he even has his mouth open and doesn't hold his nose until he realizes he is in space. If you know the character i think this is more out of his lack of awareness then anything. He doesn't even understand how space works and that he was already sitting there mouth wide open. I say it's open to debate.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on May 31, 2016, 04:15:19 PM
Needles Kane preview
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Post by: Zemilia on June 02, 2016, 03:26:49 PM
DBX Promo
Animation's looking a lot better than the last time it premiered.
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 02, 2016, 03:31:05 PM
What does Screwattack have against the Fetts? Jango doesn't stand a remote chance against Master Chief.
King Dedede beating Amy sounds like fun though.
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Post by: hatter on June 02, 2016, 03:42:43 PM
Hm. Interesting.
I def wanna the Spider Man/Mikasa battles, any ideas on who they would possibly battle?
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 02, 2016, 03:47:27 PM
Mikasa's the Titan girl, right? Wouldn't they be fighting each other? Similar ability to get around the city with some form of grapple hook.
Oh that and the slow-mo of Spider-Man looks like he's in the medieval city from her show anyways, that too.
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Post by: hatter on June 02, 2016, 03:53:58 PM
Oh that and the slow-mo of Spider-Man looks like he's in the medieval city from her show anyways, that too.
You know now that I look at it, it does look like Spider Man was swinging in that AoT city.
That wouldn't be a bad idea for a battle, would be better than the Spider Man vs Batman DB.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on June 02, 2016, 04:02:28 PM
looks like a lot of matchups since the dante bayo fight i wonder who they got for animators
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Post by: DelusionTrim on June 02, 2016, 04:47:52 PM
I don't even understand the point of discussing who could take on Saitama... he's just a joke character and the entre point of his role is to literally be the most OP person there is.
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 02, 2016, 04:50:33 PM
Mostly to find what flaws the creator overlooked. Plus no one really enjoys their favorite being called second place to a joke.
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Post by: Gennos on June 02, 2016, 06:15:14 PM
since when did boba fitt started using a light saber?
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 02, 2016, 06:20:04 PM
Jango. But yeah though, Boba did keep some as trophies, I remember that in some comics, but Jango? Not in the movies or what I've read.
He did have a BFG9000 once though. Non-canon, but so is everything of importance to either Fett anyways. Heck, they're having Jango fight John on the Death Star, long after he's dead.
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Post by: Gennos on June 02, 2016, 06:39:53 PM
jango? the sucky assassin from the prequels who hired another assassin to kill padme with a centipede? yeah im sure he has a chance against master chief.
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 02, 2016, 06:48:26 PM
That or they're going to find some reason to explain why this is Boba in Jango's armor before it gets worn and green before Chief kills him.
Screw Attack, you picked the wrong half of the Samus vs Fett match to fight Chief.
You know you want to do your own take on this. You already based the Samus fight on Monty, and gave Yang that win.
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Post by: lui on June 02, 2016, 07:18:30 PM
jango? the sucky assassin from the prequels who hired another assassin to kill padme with a centipede? yeah im sure he has a chance against master chief.
theyre probably gonna look at the (now non-canon) comics and his videogame to do him justice, those did a way better job of establishing jango as a badass bounty hunter more than the movies ever did.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on June 03, 2016, 02:07:56 PM
are you guys still looking for reasoning in a no research series?
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Post by: Negi Springfield on June 03, 2016, 04:15:42 PM
are you guys still looking for reasoning in a no research series?
no research =/= no logical reasoning. jango has absolutely no chance of winning against the one man army master cheif. if they do somehow make him win, then nobody is gonna take them seriously or watch their show.
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 03, 2016, 11:46:28 PM
To be fair, Death Battle does that plenty too, but we still watch it. Just hope for better down the line.
Speaking of one man army, Chief weighs about as much. Can Jango even move him? I mean, the guy's strong for a regular human, but he's not super strong, right? I don't recall that ever being a feature of his. Then again, Death Battle says Boba Fett is stronger than Samus, and I recall her either lifting a large starship up with her one hand or planting herself and holding one trying to flee in place in one of the mangas out there, so maybe I missed that part of Star Wars.
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Post by: Zemilia on June 04, 2016, 07:53:22 PM
New OMM.
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Post by: Seadragon77 on June 04, 2016, 09:12:32 PM
That was an amusing finish.
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Post by: RoySquadRocks on June 06, 2016, 10:47:23 PM
AAAHH!!! YESYESYYES! My two favorite characters are duking it out! This is the best fight ever!
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Post by: Beta158 on June 06, 2016, 11:43:21 PM
Enjoy your buffet Kirby. You earned it.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on June 08, 2016, 03:44:53 PM
It's out.
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Post by: Kirishima on June 08, 2016, 07:28:37 PM
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Kinda bummed there wasn't a fight scene other than the vehicle chase. Even more bummed about the VA they got for Joker while Sweet Tooth's VA was spot on. Not sure if I agree with the outcome. Kinda mixed feelings.
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Mewtwo better have the Shadow Stone for his fight with Frieza, not like it'll do much =[
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Post by: Gennos on June 08, 2016, 10:28:39 PM
mediocre battle. i wanted them to fight on foot, and not in a stupid car chase. it wasn't well choreographed imo. it was brief, and it felt... cliched and generic. they should've either made it a full car combat fight or an on foot fight.
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mewtwo is gonna fight freeza? doesn't seem to be any common connection between the two, except they both are destructive? i think they're gonna make him fight someone from digimon.
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 08, 2016, 11:58:05 PM
"Next time on Death Battle!"
Injustice 2 trailer.
Gee, I wonder how they came to their conclusion. Meh, really don't agree with the winner, fight was ok at least.
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Beside the whole giving Joker the win when he was already flat on his back and good as dead.
Mewtwo, huh? Yet showing both Origins and first movie Mewtwo. There's at least three different Mewtwos I know of, each fairly different in abilities and personality. Not going to make a bit of sense when Yugi Moto Mewtwo goes flying in with a giant spoon against Frieza.
On the other hand, I'm curious how they'll be able to downplay this DBZ character and let Mewtwo win. No FTL? Lack of perception of time means easy to manipulate with psychic abilities?
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Post by: major jon on June 09, 2016, 06:36:45 AM
I'm I the only one who enjoyed the new DB. Leaked Death Battle: Mewtwo vs vegeta
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Post by: Duos.act on June 09, 2016, 07:07:19 AM
Gee, I wonder how they came to their conclusion. Meh, really don't agree with the winner, fight was ok at least.
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Beside the whole giving Joker the win when he was already flat on his back and good as dead.
Mewtwo, huh? Yet showing both Origins and first movie Mewtwo. There's at least three different Mewtwos I know of, each fairly different in abilities and personality. Not going to make a bit of sense when Yugi Moto Mewtwo goes flying in with a giant spoon against Frieza.
On the other hand, I'm curious how they'll be able to downplay this DBZ character and let Mewtwo win. No FTL? Lack of perception of time means easy to manipulate with psychic abilities?
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They went over Joker's ridiculous durability at the beginning of the video. If you think getting impaled through the chest is enough to kill him, you might be as crazy as he is.
Also research team already said Mewtwo isn't fighting Freeza.
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 09, 2016, 07:35:23 AM
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I'm not sure being as crazy as the Joker is such a bad thing, when they vouch for it being a genuine superpower in D.C.
I was less worried about the impaling itself, though yeah, that's still a fairly big showstopper for Joker, alongside the broken body of being smashed through a wall like that, but more that he's pinned. Moving out of that's going to cause blood loss and a pretty fast and painful death.
Less solid reasoning but still one I like to hold, Needles has a mask and a head on fire for that venom solution Joker pulled. The mask would prevent it getting shot directly into his face, and the fire would dispel the cloud that remains enough to negate any real harm, I would suspect Evidently, they had other ideas about it though.
And alright, good to hear Frieza's death has been held off a bit longer then. Not sure who'd they'd match against Mewtwo though. YouTube comments suggest Silver the Hedgehog, which sounds like Mewtwo heavily outclasses. I suppose another Pokémon vs Pokémon match is possible, going against Arceus. Though not one I'd be interested in, or sure how they'd pick and answer between game stats favoring Arceus, lore siding with Mew and thus Mewtwo.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on June 09, 2016, 12:09:07 PM
looking at the fight, you know torrians being worked to death since he's also got DBX to work on
just a filler DB it seems
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Funny how they continuously imply that sweet tooth is a kill first ask questions later kind of guy. yet they make him derpy as shit in the fight let alone most of his kills are with his car anyway so its not like he cared to begin with LET ALONE DYING FROM GAS WHILE WEARING A NOSE HOLELESS MASK
the fight was meh and the reasoning was dumb
they might as well shoulda said "this is sponsered by suicide club"
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Post by: Duos.act on June 10, 2016, 03:45:45 AM
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The animation is just for show and is irrelevant to the outcome. Joker's manipulative skill is what gets him the iwn, so that part of the fight is to show that. Whether that's actually what would happen is completely beside the point. People in the actual DCU have fallen victim to Joker Venom while wearing masks, nose or otherwise. I'm a huge Twisted Metal fanboy and I completely agree with the outcome. Needles gets manipulated by Calypso all the damn time, it gets him killed in the reboot even.
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 11, 2016, 01:27:26 AM
Well, spoiler's out. Screw Attack's tweeted the next fight. (https://twitter.com/ScrewAttack/status/741399716513107968)
You know, Shadow's not that bad a guy that you need to kill him off twice.
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Post by: D.R.B on June 11, 2016, 01:32:08 AM
Shadow again ? for real SA? if you want to use a Sonic character so badly why not Silver ? at the very least he does have powers similar to Mewtwo
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Post by: Gennos on June 11, 2016, 01:36:15 AM
i wanna see him get killed a 1000 times for the cringy things he keeps saying. this stands out as the worst (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veSFrIVKXOY).
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 11, 2016, 01:36:54 AM
I get the theme, outcast genetic experiments of legendary creatures from their worlds that command ridiculous power. Though it's way more in Mewtwo's favor, being part Mew he has command over every power of every Pokémon ever. Shadow is fast? Use Dialga's or Celibi's control over time. Or just Trick Room him. Shadow's immune to damage with Super Shadow? Use Protect and Detect.
But still, it's not a complete mis-match, Shadow has some ability and skill, should be interesting enough. Though yeah, I would have picked someone else, or at least Silver over Shadow if you needed a Sonic character.
...I like Shadow, please don't kill me.
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Post by: Kirishima on June 11, 2016, 02:10:02 AM
I'm pretty sure Mewtwo will not have access to any move that isn't part of his level up set.
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 11, 2016, 02:11:53 AM
Well that would be boring. And a waste of going into the lore of the character. Presumably, they'll be merging all versions of Mewtwo into one, and I want to see Yami Yugi Mewtwo beat up someone with a giant spoon!
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Post by: Duos.act on June 11, 2016, 08:40:22 AM
Considering Shadow couldn't even beat Vegeta I don't see how he's going to take Mewtwo unless one of their new researchers is Chris Chan levels of Sonic fanboy and knows some obscure fact from the comics that lets him win.
Shadow again ? for real SA? if you want to use a Sonic character so badly why not Silver ? at the very least he does have powers similar to Mewtwo
They went with Shadow because he has the same backstory as Mewtwo and because he has a similar character. There's also the fact that they're both sex symbols to edgy 14 year old furries but I doubt that was part of the equation.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on June 11, 2016, 02:02:11 PM
I get the theme, outcast genetic experiments of legendary creatures from their worlds that command ridiculous power. Though it's way more in Mewtwo's favor, being part Mew he has command over every power of every Pokémon ever. Shadow is fast? Use Dialga's or Celibi's control over time. Or just Trick Room him. Shadow's immune to damage with Super Shadow? Use Protect and Detect.
But still, it's not a complete mis-match, Shadow has some ability and skill, should be interesting enough. Though yeah, I would have picked someone else, or at least Silver over Shadow if you needed a Sonic character.
...I like Shadow, please don't kill me.
speed, stregnth, chaos control to freeze time n shit, along with....well....guns and his chaos blast n homing shit
doubt there'll be outside help and every pokemon available for this match up
Though unlike goku, shadow's not really done much since his last death battle. so he's pretty much gonna do the same things again unless they pull a dick move and strip him of super shadow
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Post by: Negi Springfield on June 11, 2016, 02:23:13 PM
I get the theme, outcast genetic experiments of legendary creatures from their worlds that command ridiculous power. Though it's way more in Mewtwo's favor, being part Mew he has command over every power of every Pokémon ever. Shadow is fast? Use Dialga's or Celibi's control over time. Or just Trick Room him. Shadow's immune to damage with Super Shadow? Use Protect and Detect.
But still, it's not a complete mis-match, Shadow has some ability and skill, should be interesting enough. Though yeah, I would have picked someone else, or at least Silver over Shadow if you needed a Sonic character.
...I like Shadow, please don't kill me.
speed, stregnth, chaos control to freeze time n shit, along with....well....guns and his chaos blast n homing shit
doubt there'll be outside help and every pokemon available for this match up
Though unlike goku, shadow's not really done much since his last death battle. so he's pretty much gonna do the same things again unless they pull a dick move and strip him of super shadow
Let's not underestimate Shadow here exactly. Depending on which interpretation of the 3D Sonic games we're going with here, he survived atmospheric re-entry while partially drained of his "Super" form at the end of Adventure 2.
Or it was his clone? His Cyborg clone? ...man the Sonic games are confusing sometimes.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on June 11, 2016, 10:39:58 PM
A new animator steps on to the scene. Its not actually DB though, animation is a bit stiff as well... watchable though
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 12, 2016, 12:00:30 AM
speed, stregnth, chaos control to freeze time n shit, along with....well....guns and his chaos blast n homing shit
doubt there'll be outside help and every pokemon available for this match up
Huh? No, I don't mean Mewtwo summons every pokemon ever. Mewtwo is mainly made up of Mew's DNA, and Mew contains the DNA of every pokemon. As Mew can use any and every move available there is, it is within reason that Mewtwo can do so as well. It's not the case in the game that he can learn anything, as he would be even more broken to hell than he already was in the first generation, but it is implied story-wise he can do whatever he pleases.
Shadow's guns, while not exactly a threat to Mewtwo, would be an unusual mix-up to throw at him, as it's just not something he'd run into in the Pokémon world, but his speed can be countered either with Mewtwo's own speed, teleportation or manipulation against Shadow, like the previously mentioned Trick Room, which makes the slower one in it faster that their opponent and vice versa.
Mewtwo's strength, well...presuming Pokken's getting thrown in and Shadow Mewtwo's pretty much just Mewtwo but eeeeeevil, then this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c_FAY0yVlg) is something he can just pull out for fun. Presuming otherwise, he still has all the destructive force of anything mentioned in the Pokedex. Fire can melt anything on Earth? Check. Hyper Beams to level cities? Good to go.
I mean....yeah, it's going to be a fun match, but unless they do want to be super strict to just what he's been shown doing rather than what's implied he can do, there doesn't seem to be squat Shadow has Mewtwo doesn't do better or can counter.
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Post by: Duos.act on June 12, 2016, 03:14:30 AM
On second thought...
Shadow moves at about the same speed as Sonic, aka fast as fuck. Shadow can stop time and slow it down, which only makes his speed that much more of a problem. Shadow can breathe in space for some reason.
I don't understand how he lost to Vegeta but I sure don't know how he can lose to Mewtwo. All he needs is chaos emeralds and Edgehog has got this shit in the bag.
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Post by: Kirishima on June 12, 2016, 03:44:35 AM
If he's against anime Mewtwo, Shadow defiantly got this. Regular game Mewtwo is even better.
If Mewtwo gets the Shadow Stone (if Pokken feats are allowed, which then Shadow's going against this Mewtwo), it's a different story since he can nuke a continent from space (even breathe in it), have access to a wide array of elemental moves not restricted to traditional Mewtwo level-ups, and the ability to Mega-evolve without a trainer or Mega Stone to even do all these things (same for anime Mewtwo but he or she not as strong as Shadow Mewtwo). And there doesn't seem to be a limit to how long it can hold in Mega Evolution for this specific Mewtwo.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on June 12, 2016, 03:47:20 AM
Using Gen 1 as a base, the only moves Mewtwo can't learn (when hacking every single move in the game into being a TM) are the literally impossible like Horn Drill, Softboiled ect. He can use pretty much anything that matters.
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 12, 2016, 03:52:57 AM
I'm not of the mindset Shadow's speed, time powers or space fairing abilities will be an issue for Mewtwo, but something I did forget that's just straight Mewtwo and never mind all the possible but not looked into other pokemon abilities he might have, he's psychic. Can't he just mind wipe Shadow and call it a day? Sure had no issue in the movie making Nurse Joy into a puppet.
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Post by: Kirishima on June 12, 2016, 03:57:34 AM
These are my thoughts.
In-game Mewtwo: Too restricted. Needs a trainer to give him Tutor/TM moves so unless he's allowed a Trainer in his duel, don't count on it. Anime Mewtwo: Still restricted, but not something to be taken lightly, especially "Female" Mewtwo with better feats. (I am going to admit this, I think I am missing something or more from both Mewtwos so forgive me) Pokken Mewtwo: Gets a whole bunch of moves beyond Psychic class, even deadly with Shadow Stone and Mega Evolution.
Both Anime ("Female" not Dan Green version) and Pokken Mewtwo can Mega Evolve without a Trainer or a Mega Stone while the in-game Mewtwo needs both.
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 12, 2016, 04:01:16 AM
I doubt it's going to be any just one, it's going to be a fusion of all interpretations of Mewtwo as with other characters shown through multi media in past Death Battles. So you got manga Mewtwo with his staff of smiting breakfast who can't stay out of his poke ball for more than a few minutes or he and Blane both die to somehow throw into that mix too.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on June 12, 2016, 05:35:28 PM
DBX thing is out.
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Post by: D.R.B on June 15, 2016, 03:23:33 PM
,,,,
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 16, 2016, 11:14:08 PM
Man, that doesn't tell us anything on what powers they plan on using other than the most basic knowledge of him. Though they do seem to plan on using the first movie Mewtwo as the basis, so yay for picking the favorite.
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Post by: Duos.act on June 16, 2016, 11:17:30 PM
The first movie Mewtwo is the one that's most in line with the game origin, and was used in most of the spinoffs. I imagine that's why.
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 20, 2016, 09:34:34 AM
New One Minute Melee.
Dunno why they went for more DBZ versus Sonic, it's clearly no use.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on June 20, 2016, 07:48:07 PM
silvers based off trunks.....like a LOT
this fight in general was pretty well done but for some reason i can see DBX doing this matchup as well
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 20, 2016, 08:19:51 PM
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpeYA8W6VpM[/youtube] New One Minute Melee.
Dunno why they went for more DBZ versus Sonic, it's clearly no use.
I see what you did there.
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Post by: D.R.B on June 22, 2016, 08:11:48 PM
Shadow Returns to DEATH BATTLE! Again ! -_-
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Post by: Negi Springfield on June 26, 2016, 04:07:51 PM
I know i've been asking for these guys to do match ups that don't have official cross-overs (like the JUMP character fights that even use sprites from the exact game they crossed over in like J-Stars) but this is...
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on June 26, 2016, 11:27:11 PM
a gruesome way to go imo
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disturbing thinking about how the childrens ball park leads to a deadly fall into a boiling oil lake... even more disturbing is how the person serving the burgers is a creepy clown
oh and i like this schedule on how we get a omm on week and a dbx the next
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Post by: Negi Springfield on June 26, 2016, 11:35:21 PM
I'm willing to cut whoever animates DBX some slack, Death Battle didn't get great over night but these last two videos have been pretty crappy over-all :/
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Post by: Kirishima on June 26, 2016, 11:54:15 PM
Any reason to why Kishio and Peg aren't credited for their sprites used?
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Post by: Negi Springfield on June 27, 2016, 12:00:23 AM
Any reason to why Kishio and Peg aren't credited for their sprites used?
No research?
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 27, 2016, 12:04:28 AM
I don't know why I was disappointed at Ronald McDonald of all people not doing much of anything in a DBX episode, but I was. Gave the Colonel all the action on that one.
So not much longer until Mewtwo vs Shadow. My mind's still set that if they're going by Pokedex entries and Mewtwo having Mew's genes, thus the powers of every Pokémon ever, this is as bad for Shadow as Quicksilver had against Flash. Really depends how much info they choose to go with and what to withhold Mewtwo from doing, given how much of his power is hypothetical if logical, rather than just fact. Losing all that and just going straight with what he's been shown to do, flying at fairly regular speeds, Shadow Ball, some elemental punches, teleporting and mind wiping....it's still a possibility for Mewtwo to just wipe the guy's mind blank, but I'm willing to bet that's not flashy enough and there's some counter to that SOMEHWERE in all those Archie comics.
Unless Shadow's confined to his game-only skills as well, then I guess Mewtwo has it regardless? Any other opinions or facts I'm missing out on before the next episode?
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Post by: Kirishima on June 27, 2016, 12:04:50 AM
, but I'm willing to bet that's not flashy enough and there's some counter to that SOMEHWERE in all those Archie comics.
Unless Shadow's confined to his game-only skills as well, then I guess Mewtwo has it regardless? Any other opinions or facts I'm missing out on before the next episode?
i dont like how they use the archie comics for some characters, power ups for other characters, and just base forms for the rest
its like they deliberately choose who they want to win
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Post by: Long John Killer on June 27, 2016, 11:53:16 PM
Oh, I'm sure there's some degree of that going on in the background too. You don't have everyone but one on their research boards disagree with Yang beating Tifa, rather the opposite wins so hard it's not funny, and that one's reasoning differing than the video's, without some form of personal preference. There's also just not covering all information, just enough from both sides to make it seem an interesting fight with reasoning they find solid up to that point, a la Wonder Woman and Rogue where you could just have Wonder Woman atomize Rogue with a punch. And don't get started all the retorts on Goku vs Superman.
I just like to discuss it with anyone with their own take. Sometimes it leads to proving Death Battle right out wrong. Or we might all come to the same conclusion.
Though right now I can't take Shadow seriously at all thanks to Joel over at Vinesauce with his Sonic 25th anniversary stream. Remember, guns can't hurt cartoons. (https://youtu.be/A2gNqKZzqsU?t=5881)
Shadow Mewtwo at 30 seconds in?
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Post by: D.R.B on July 02, 2016, 01:50:25 AM
YT video
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Post by: Prime SC on July 02, 2016, 02:18:06 AM
That one was super weak
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Post by: Bob8644 on July 02, 2016, 02:52:49 AM
Well that was one sided.
And OH BOY, I know next to NOTHING about RvB for this next battle. Looks like I'll have to catch up on 14 SEASONS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Post by: Kirishima on July 02, 2016, 03:24:44 AM
So, uh, any RvB viewers here?
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Post by: Speedpreacher on July 02, 2016, 03:27:46 AM
I checked out somewhere in the Halo 3 graphics phase
It felt like it was starting to get up its own ass with its lore
I am given to understand that did not change and instead got worse
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on July 02, 2016, 03:59:37 AM
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if shadow had his memories wiped, how did that turn him into a defenceless pussy?
last time i checked(i didn't check) shadow never had a breakdown when he lost his memories....but instead tore shit up everywhere. plus he knew how to fight still and the value of emeralds(it was like the first thing he went for in both shadow's game and SA2)
the match was weak and short, barely anymoves were shown... they just wanted to kill shadow off twice.
also wtf is with the next time on DB? and why do we have to wait over 3 weeks for it?
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 02, 2016, 05:07:07 AM
I watch RvB. The Meta wins.
All you really need to know for Meta. But I suppose beyond that, if I recall correctly he also has the superior A.I. in that his whole purpose of being now in life is to kill others with A.I.s and add them to his. So while very primal in his killing tendencies, he's really brilliant going about it.
...If I recall correctly, that is, I don't follow the show religiously. That said...
You completely and totally picked the wrong gal for Death Battle if you're touching Red vs Blue, Screwattack. How do you just jump over Agent Texas? She needs to kill Yang.
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Anyways, so while I was kinda disappointed they didn't do the whole "He's part Mew, he can do anything" route, they did do the simple mind wipe and kill with a spoon alternative I wanted to see, so while not very eventful I'm happy this episode went how I was expecting.
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Post by: Bob8644 on July 02, 2016, 05:26:08 AM
Hey, John: Quick question.
How many of the seasons in RvB are " canon "? I'm thinking of actually watching it but there's so many seasons i just
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 02, 2016, 05:40:59 AM
Well, barring this latest season, they're all kinda "canon", just different arcs. Season 9 though, the Halo Reach one, was pretty much all just a dream sequence. Well, virtual reality. Events take place that happen outside of what you're watching, you'll get flashbacks in the next season it's all just parodying themselves back in the original first 5 seasons of the Blood Gulch Chronicles, how the one stuck in the dream is trying to get back to the super serious stuff happening, while everyone else is just goofing off in Blood Gulch like Red vs Blue started as.
I can't speak too much on the seasons starting with Halo 4 because one, I really don't like getting involved with 343 things when if comes to Halo, and two seasons 1-10 are separated into their own arcs but are all part of one overlapping story about the Freelancers. Starting at 11, sorta like Halo 4, they just kinda start this whole new story of landing on a new planet in civil war or something. I did not care for it.
This latest season has just been for fun though, filling in some details and character backgrounds previously not touched but mostly just for laughs at its utter nonsense, like the earlier seasons.
If you want to watch the series and want my recommendation, I suggest just go for season 1-10. It's probably around what, 8 hours? Spread it over the three weeks coming. See from then if you want to follow the 343-backed new story then.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on July 02, 2016, 06:10:00 AM
Great. Well I know which death battle to skip then.
Shadow vs Mewtwo had the potential to be something great. That fight sucked.
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 02, 2016, 06:39:00 AM
Hey, if nothing else you know it'll be an over the top 3D animated fight that should be fun to watch, regardless of caring for Red vs Blue one way or another.
I might have to re-watch some of it though, see if I'm forgetting something significant about Carolina, because really, Carolina is just outclassed. Carolina loses to Texas, and Texas loses to Meta. Add on Meta being practically a cyborg zombie that's never dying and super smart (Well, smarter than your supercomputer minded regular Spartans, that is) this just seems incredibly unfair.
I guess if you want to stretch it to the limit, you can, like, have Carolina remove her helmet, toss it aside, tempt Meta to go after it for the A.I. inside and....I dunno, Spartan Laser it until nothing remains? Highly unlikely ending, though.
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Post by: Darkflare on July 02, 2016, 07:07:26 AM
if shadow had his memories wiped, how did that turn him into a defenceless pussy?
last time i checked(i didn't check) shadow never had a breakdown when he lost his memories....but instead tore shit up everywhere. plus he knew how to fight still and the value of emeralds(it was like the first thing he went for in both shadow's game and SA2)
the match was weak and short, barely anymoves were shown... they just wanted to kill shadow off twice.
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Shadow screaming "Why am I glowing?" should have been enough to tell you that Mewtwo wiped his memories of his combat abilities. Essentially, Mewtwo made Shadow forget how to fight.
...and then shoved a giant spoon on him
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Post by: Negi Springfield on July 02, 2016, 04:03:30 PM
omm
edit: well that was dumb, favoritism anyone?
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Post by: Seadragon77 on July 02, 2016, 05:13:14 PM
I'll go with that, only because humanoid scorpion guy can't be that strong... can he?
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Post by: Speedpreacher on July 02, 2016, 05:32:07 PM
I don't know, Meruem is basically Cellfriezabuu
He's pretty OP, it took a nuke that was also laced with self-evolving poison to kill him
Chimera Ant arc was crazy
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Post by: Gennos on July 02, 2016, 08:05:46 PM
meruem is stronger than cell. although i don't remember him shooting laser blast out of his hands, his powers are of an enchanter not an emitter or transmitter.
edit: sorry! he does actually have them, he gained those powers after he absorbed his followers. but they don't work like what was shown at this battle.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on July 02, 2016, 08:08:51 PM
Yeah that's probably just a liberty they were taking since he consumed Cell's flesh
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on July 02, 2016, 11:03:12 PM
the omm animation was longer than the DB animation shame
i liked that meruem was sprited originally though
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Post by: Gennos on July 02, 2016, 11:11:35 PM
barely, half of his animations are repeated and the other half are mostly ragdoll animation. not that there's anything wrong with that, i found it okay.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on July 02, 2016, 11:21:37 PM
Literally never watched or read Hunter X Hunter in my life but I hate DBZ so I'm always down to watch DBZ characters getting destroyed.
[youtube]edit: well that was dumb, favoritism anyone?
That's the whole point of OMM. No research. Winner determined by the animator.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on July 02, 2016, 11:49:59 PM
watch hxh its really good especially yorknew city arc , greed island and chimera ant arc
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on July 02, 2016, 11:51:59 PM
That's all well and good but Cell didn't even land a blow. The fight came across like bad fanfiction where GokuFan12121 shows up, OHKO's Cell and fucks Bulma.
I was under the assumption that the entire point of these shows wasn't even really "who is the strongest" so much as it was making a good sprite animation with fancy effects and giving people a good show. That wasn't. Shadow vs Mewto wasn't. At least Colonel Sanders fighting curb stomping Ronald McDonald was entertaining for the thought they put into the locations.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on July 03, 2016, 12:39:58 AM
That's all well and good but Cell didn't even land a blow. The fight came across like bad fanfiction where GokuFan12121 shows up, OHKO's Cell and fucks Bulma.
I was under the assumption that the entire point of these shows wasn't even really "who is the strongest" so much as it was making a good sprite animation with fancy effects and giving people a good show. That wasn't. Shadow vs Mewto wasn't. At least Colonel Sanders fighting curb stomping Ronald McDonald was entertaining for the thought they put into the locations.
You are confusing DB with OMM. DB is to determine an actual winner in an entertaining way. OMM is just for the flashy fight. Shadow vs Mewtwo was most likely a filler episode like Batman vs Cap, especially since Ben Singer hates Shadow and probably wanted to make him into his personal jobber by intentional putting him against opponents he'll lose to.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on July 03, 2016, 01:26:16 AM
the fact that OMM do no research is nothing new, but whats also not new is that a lot of people tend to forget that, like always
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 03, 2016, 06:27:28 AM
I didn't care for Hunter X Hunter, gave it up pretty quickly. It sure wasn't any Yu Yu Hakusho. I didn't know they jumped to solar system levels of destruction, most I ever see is the protag kid using a copy of Naruto's Rasengan.
Of course, OMM, no research, little logic, etc. etc. and all that. I'm presuming he's not, just the now-seemingly average occurrence of beat DBZ for attention. But jeez that was not fun to watch, it needs to be a melee, a fight, not just giving one side the win.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Ninja-Capybara on July 03, 2016, 08:28:16 PM
Silver is my favourite Sonic character, but I like Shadow as well.. Seeing him just be pat down in such a way was just... "Why?" Especially when they used a combination of all iterations of Mewtwo, but not the case with Shadow. That was just... "unfair" would be an understatement.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on July 03, 2016, 11:10:17 PM
That's all well and good but Cell didn't even land a blow. The fight came across like bad fanfiction where GokuFan12121 shows up, OHKO's Cell and fucks Bulma.
I was under the assumption that the entire point of these shows wasn't even really "who is the strongest" so much as it was making a good sprite animation with fancy effects and giving people a good show. That wasn't. Shadow vs Mewto wasn't. At least Colonel Sanders fighting curb stomping Ronald McDonald was entertaining for the thought they put into the locations.
so by that logic trunks vs silver was a shit omm as well? or no because trunks won instead?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2016, 01:10:52 AM
Silver put up a fight, not that he really could, so no because it was entertainingly even to animate?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on July 04, 2016, 01:17:27 AM
I didn't care for Hunter X Hunter, gave it up pretty quickly. It sure wasn't any Yu Yu Hakusho. I didn't know they jumped to solar system levels of destruction, most I ever see is the protag kid using a copy of Naruto's Rasengan.
Of course, OMM, no research, little logic, etc. etc. and all that. I'm presuming he's not, just the now-seemingly average occurrence of beat DBZ for attention. But jeez that was not fun to watch, it needs to be a melee, a fight, not just giving one side the win.
by that logic that also means saitama should be trading fair blows with any character out there, which wouldn't make sense due to his nature.
yes, omm has no research but no research does NOT mean lack of knowledge of average character traits that casual fans should know. so yes, this matchup makes sense, i dont particularly care for HxH but damn some characters in there stomp DBZ's power levels to the ground.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Titiln on July 04, 2016, 01:22:37 AM
that mewtwo shadow animation was hot garbage and i hate shadow
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2016, 01:45:31 AM
...Yes, Saitama should be trading blows with whoever. It's a fight. It's not fun to watch one side put in effort, and the other doesn't and is given their win or loss easily. Saitama doesn't actually seem that impressive, by what I've seen. He can punch kaiju into splats, fly to the moon and work under heavy gravity. He has all the powers of a Powerpuff Girl. But that's just my ignorance to the series as whole. Maybe just avoid the character altogether then?
And alright, if you say so. I really didn't care for Hunter X Hunter, it seemed around early One Piece in terms of power scale, or even Yu Yu Hakushio, not universe-ending ridiculousness of DBZ. Or planet bursting of early Dragon Ball.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on July 04, 2016, 01:48:26 AM
...Yes, Saitama should be trading blows with whoever. It's a fight. It's not fun to watch one side put in effort, and the other doesn't and is given their win or loss easily. Saitama doesn't actually seem that impressive, by what I've seen. He can punch kaiju into splats, fly to the moon and work under heavy gravity. He has all the powers of a Powerpuff Girl. But that's just my ignorance to the series as whole.
he's a parody of the average shounen character in which his power is quite literally infinite from the start, he literally just killed an alien god with one punch because he "got bored"
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2016, 01:58:36 AM
I know the premise of the character, just what I've seen hasn't impressed me.
Coincidentally, still more or less in the range of a Powerpuff Girl. Just with Satan. There's your rival. :P
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on July 04, 2016, 02:11:59 AM
And alright, if you say so. I really didn't care for Hunter X Hunter, it seemed around early One Piece in terms of power scale, or even Yu Yu Hakushio, not universe-ending ridiculousness of DBZ. Or planet bursting of early Dragon Ball.
are you seriously still mad at omm? i thought people stopped taking them seriously after their dante vs ragna battle.
anyhoo, meryum is way stronger than cell man. open this only if you don't care about getting hxh spoiled for you:
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he is the alpha chimera ant, the strongest one of them all. a weird species that came from the dark continent, a continent that man has never walked in to or seen. he defeated the strongest nen user in the world with ease and barely used his powers against him, he can gain the powers of who ever he eats and has gained both powers of his guards. one allows him to charge his hand to release a very powerful aura blast and the second allows him to sense his opponet's power. he's also way more intelligent than cell, he was able to defeat every board game champion at his game in a matter of playing him once or twice. dude was op as fuck, and thankfully he died of a very strong poisoning from a bomb.
cell on the other hand is just a robot/cyborg who's strongest form can't even beat SS2.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2016, 02:21:06 AM
...Uh, I don't think anyone's mad at anything. The joke in the previous post should have given that away. I'm being literal, I don't know what the hell happens in Hunter X Hunter because it bored me out of watching it any further.
So he's an ant made out of alchemy, I don't know what a "nen user" is beyond a Yu-Gi-Oh term I think? The eating thing sounds like a solid basis, though you'd have to be able to actually, you know, eat the guy. Without already being in DBZ's range of power to begin with, he's not going to scratch Cell's exposed skin, nevermind rip off an arm. More intelligent...that I'm left to question, Cell is made from and probably contains the mind of a supercomputer, plus any intelligence of everyone he's made out of and has absorbed. This Meryum being able to learn board game strategies from expert players is commendable, but doesn't seem in the same scope.
But more importantly, beyond being somewhat in similar ideas or levels, that's not the point. Just make it a fair fight to watch. It's not meant to be taken seriously, but it is supposed to be fun for both sides.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on July 04, 2016, 02:30:43 AM
So he's an ant made out of alchemy, I don't know what a "nen user" is beyond a Yu-Gi-Oh term I think?
he came from a weird species on a very dangerous place that humans never visited. as for the second part, just consider it the strongest man in the world as you're not interested in hxh lore. he whipped the floor with him, and he didn't even use all of his power. btw this strongest man can defeat cell with his eyes closed too, and he trains with 12 other nen users who're also considered the strongest after him.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2016, 02:33:10 AM
So yes, they are solar system or universe destroyers then?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on July 04, 2016, 02:40:10 AM
ugh your nerdiness is unbearable. are the details that important? nen is like ki but it manifests it self differently in people depending on their personalities. people can train their nen to max it out.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 04, 2016, 02:43:55 AM
There is absolutely nothing more nerdy than pointless who can beat who arguments because the answer is and always shall be whoever the writer wants to win
I can't fault Doc Halo for asking questions
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2016, 02:49:52 AM
But nerdiness is what makes me so charmingly adorable!
You're in a thread based on nerdy people debating nerdy facts and nerdy topics to prove nerdy points. If we're not nerdy enough, then Spock n' Roll will die. Plus the fine details are half the fun in getting it right.
But in this case, if the guy's not even at that level, then he can't even touch Cell. Which still yes, does not matter as far as OMM goes, but it definitely shouldn't be the other way around with Cell not even touching Meryum.
Also I like Doc Halo, that's a good nickname.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on July 04, 2016, 02:57:16 AM
But in this case, if the guy's not even at that level, then he can't even touch Cell. Which still yes, does not matter as far as OMM goes, but it definitely shouldn't be the other way around with Cell not even touching Meryum.
i don't understand. what are you talking about here?
let me put this in simpler terms since you seem confused and you're confusing me with you:
cell = the strength of ss2 goku, the strongest man in his universe. meryum > than the maximum strength of the strongest man in his universe.
lets see you dance your way out of this one >:)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on July 04, 2016, 03:01:28 AM
are you guys for real ? regardless of who is stronger , this kind of videos is meant for one real deal : advertisement
some artists are trying to bust the number of people who would read HxH or watch the anime
if more people started watching or reading HxH, then the guy who made the video would be like
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 04, 2016, 03:08:58 AM
The point of the videos are to get clicks
I sincerely doubt the creators are interested in getting more exposure for Hunter x Hunter of all things
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2016, 03:16:23 AM
Cell is around Goku's plain ol' Super Saiyan at its max at the time, and past SSJ2 Gohan after his failed suicide. Also that's presuming Goku = whoever the strongest man is in HxH, which....doesn't make any sense?
DBZ powers work on Ki. The higher their power level, the higher their overall stats all around are. Some minor differences here and there when power levels were more present in on Namek, Jeice and Burter being the main example, but largely as that level goes up the more you completely outclass someone you past. Such is the life of any non-Saiyan. For example, Raditz could take Goku's way-past moon destroying Kamehameha, but when Piccolo's attack past his power level he realized he'd be screwed being hit by that.
And way past that, by the time of Cell, he brags how he could wipe out the solar system if he so pleases. Thus, something with the power to destroy the solar system or higher must be put into hitting him with to kill him. As Gohan and ghost dad did, just contained in that Kamehameha. DBZ's done that whole "size of the beam and destruction doesn't equal the power behind it" bit before, blowing Vegeta's Final Flash out of the water not too long after it went off and swallowed up Venus or whatever planet it headed for and an entire Earth continent just by missing.
So I'm just curious, does Meryum or anyone else from that series boast such power? If not, they're not winning. At least not on this straightforward attacking front. That's all.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on July 04, 2016, 03:19:07 AM
yes he is and so are other people in the series.
i still don't know why you're so salty about this.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2016, 03:20:30 AM
I'm not, I'm curious and just wanted a straightforward answer or at least when explaining yourself it made sense. If you say they are, then so be it.
You're the one that seems to be getting upset over this. I'll shut up now, then. Sorry. :mwhy:
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on July 04, 2016, 03:24:31 AM
seeing the number of views , I guess the Raccoon is still relevant
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: lui on July 04, 2016, 03:25:50 AM
im not getting upset over it and i showed no signs of it at all?
and the guys who created the mangas won't give two shits about db or omm, see kamiya-san for example.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on July 04, 2016, 03:26:44 AM
don't shut up yet. dude... everyone in dbz can destroy a planet with his kamehame blast. freeza destroyed a planet and he's less stronger than a ss1 goku.im sure krillin could do it if he put maximum effort into it.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2016, 03:29:41 AM
I...legitimately just mixed the two of you up into one poster and thought you were getting more annoyed. Whoops.
Oh, Krillin past planet buster ages ago, Roshi pulled off the moon early Dragon Ball, and an extraordinarily weak Piccolo in comparison to anything after did the same effortlessly training Gohan as a kid.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on July 04, 2016, 03:31:41 AM
which means it shouldn't be used as a measuring point for a character's strength.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Melcore on July 04, 2016, 03:34:49 AM
which means it shouldn't be used as a measuring point for a character's strength.
agreed, DBZ planets seem to be composed entirely of cardboard.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2016, 03:42:47 AM
Why not? Krillin's stupidly tough and powerful, just his competition is ridiculously better. Anything that doesn't have him against those who's levels are way past his or involves him without being powered up has him dominating the situation.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 04, 2016, 03:45:04 AM
Doc, in terms of whether Meruem shoot a beam that could destroy his universe the answer is "probably not" because the type of power being thrown around in that world just isn't that type of power. But if it was he would be that powerful. More to the point, if he ATE someone who was that powerful he would be that powerful.
He is fast enough and strong enough to rip Cell's arm off and then start eating it and durable enough to tank the hits Cell would throw at him until he's fully absorbed the information because no DBZ character is ever going to just obliterate someone when they can test their mettle in hand to hand fighting and the Hunter universe is built for hand to hand fighting.
At that point he would be powerful enough to throw a beam that could destroy the universe. So while the fight isn't really that interesting of a fight to watch, it is more or less an accurate one.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on July 04, 2016, 03:51:04 AM
Why not? Krillin's stupidly tough and powerful, just his competition is ridiculously better. Anything that doesn't have him against those who's levels are way past his or involves him without being powered up has him dominating the situation.
because if it was then we can say that Krillin=Cell. both of them can destroy planets therefore they're equal. obviously that is not true, man.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2016, 03:52:39 AM
A planet does not equal a solar system, those are complete different terms of power.
That's a nice fully explained answer, thank you. While I have my fair share of doubts, namely getting an arm off, I think that's enough for all of us overanalyzing this OMM, yeah? We're just starting to get on each other's nerves.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Gennos on July 04, 2016, 03:59:31 AM
I think that's enough for all of us overanalyzing this OMM, yeah? We're just starting to get on each other's nerves.
it was fun. i can see why geeks passionately do this all the time.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 10, 2016, 06:28:37 PM
New DBX.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bob8644 on July 10, 2016, 07:16:34 PM
Well that was anti-climactic and one sided.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 10, 2016, 07:23:28 PM
Eh, compared to Master Chief and Jango Fett, where the animation was one-sided but Jango had no real chance at all, at least it's moderately accurate this time?
Though not to quote myself from the previous discussion against Cell and Saitama and such, but it's just not fun when they don't at least make them seem evenly matched when fighting. At least it was funny with near-sighted Dedede and the crowd of Waddle Dees, but yeah.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 14, 2016, 12:46:28 AM
Right, I don't intend on watching the whole show all over again, but I thought Meta already beat Carolina pretty easily before, this confirmed it.
So being a Red vs Blue episode as well, just an excuse to kill off a member, then it's gotta be Carolina as she's still alive, Meta isn't. This is all just a big reveal to bring him back and kill her off. Except the surprise is totally ruined by announcing this Death Battle. I've enjoyed Red vs Blue and all, but this is just ringing stupid to me right now.
Carolina must have some sort of A.I. inhibitor that I'm forgetting, unless they want to try the spike thing from the fight where Texas tried to kill Meta with it and completely and totally failed with help and Texas being better than Carolina, and still ended up dead. Because that's just asking for "No duh" remarks when it fails, outrage when it works according to Screw Attack.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on July 16, 2016, 10:52:25 PM
New OMM
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: hatter on July 16, 2016, 11:16:51 PM
That was actually pretty cool. I always liked the idea of a Persona and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure cross-over.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Out of curiosity, why Black Polnareff? I haven't completely been following along with Stardust Crusaders (watched certain episodes of the anime, but not all), but what does Black Polnareff possess that other villains in Stardust Crusaders lack?
Also, LMAO at CvS2 Bison sounds.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on July 16, 2016, 11:20:19 PM
Best fight in a while, not too one-sided and pretty balanced throughout for the most part.
As for why they used Black Polnareff, it was an odd choice but i'm not against it. It makes the outcome somewhat more satisfying I think.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 16, 2016, 11:22:02 PM
I don't know these guys, immediately not a fan of the higher-res looking guy, but I'm pretty sure I heard Bleach sound clips in there. Also this was better than either the last OMM or DBX.
Doesn't Jojo have some sort of rule that their stands are impossible to detect with magic or science unless you have one yourself? Not that it matters much here, just curious why no one ever tries to throw in the twist that whoever's fighting them in the match can't see their opponent's weapon.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on July 16, 2016, 11:31:01 PM
I don't know these guys, immediately not a fan of the higher-res looking guy, but I'm pretty sure I heard Bleach sound clips in there. Also this was better than either the last OMM or DBX.
Doesn't Jojo have some sort of rule that their stands are impossible to detect with magic or science unless you have one yourself? Not that it matters much here, just curious why no one ever tries to throw in the twist that whoever's fighting them in the match can't see their opponent's weapon.
No Bleach clips, JYB also voiced Yu Narukami, the player avatar (YOU) from Persona 4. The video poked a little hole in it but it's OMM and Stands and Persona operate on the same base logic, phsyical manifestations of your "self" in non-corporeal form.
Persona games just play up the fact that people are different, every day of their lives, so Persona-wielders can change their Personas.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Titiln on July 16, 2016, 11:44:17 PM
half this video was giving a full handjob to lootcrate
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on July 16, 2016, 11:48:11 PM
Just close out the second you see an ad? That's what I normally do.
Look, I dislike them just as much as most people do, but I grew up when TV was king and sitting through commercials was just something you did, as least these videos don't take commercial breaks to pad the ad out. Don't be that guy.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Titiln on July 17, 2016, 12:01:27 AM
i wasnt really whining and i didnt watch all of it, i was making fun of the fact that half the video is advertisement
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 17, 2016, 12:08:17 AM
The most I know on Persona is that the original may have had this edgy idea that to reveal your true self you need to take a gun or a toy replica of one or whatever and shoot yourself in the head, and the persona explodes out instead of your brains. Charming. Oh and it seems to be changing genres per title, if that fighting game is an actual canon entry? The art style is really off putting to me, so I didn't dive much into it, sorry. Neat to know the voice is the same though.
I guess that makes as much sense an it really needs for a OMM, I just like the concept of having a fight against a Jojo character where they can't actually detect the stand at all but offer a challenge in some other sort of fashion.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on July 17, 2016, 12:19:28 AM
Actually you got that backwards, Persona 3 was the blacksheep in that aspect. In Persona 1, 2 (and 2.5) gaining a Persona was usually the result of a vastly traumatic experience followed by figurative death staring you in the face. (Think something like going Super Saiyan) Persona 3's Envoker's used some bullshit excuse that imitating suicide is intense enough of a trigger to invoke their Personas (and they are very limited in what they can do) The only person in Persona 3 (and 4 I guess) that can use their Persona(s) freely are the Main Characters. Persona 4 works a bit differently because the fighting takes place in a pocket dimension(tl;dr where Personas come from), so their hardship is facing the evil within themselves and owning up to their own weaknesses, after they beat an evil version of themselves first, that is.
And how is that JoJo rule so hard to accept when it comes to Personas? Both of them are based on almost the same concept. Persona's lore is just more fleshed out.
And yes the fighting games are canon to the main story of Persona, Atlus co-wrote the plot themselves and make refferences to it in the Vita Re-Release of Persona 4, among other things.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on July 24, 2016, 03:11:45 PM
oh ummm.......ok?
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even cartoon fight club is better than this animation wise
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on July 24, 2016, 03:54:42 PM
I don't disagree with the outcome but that's some really shoddy animation.
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And again, Hokuto Shin-Ken is the anti-thesis to raw strength
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on July 24, 2016, 06:47:44 PM
I didn't mind the outcome... the animation.... it sucks. It basically takes away from what seemed to be a great idea for a fight between the man who can literally destroy everything with one punch and the man whose fighting style can counter it.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 24, 2016, 08:02:27 PM
That doesnt even look remotely like kenshiro...
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on July 24, 2016, 08:16:01 PM
Nice to know that they got Video Brinquedo onboard for the new DBX.
Actually you got that backwards, Persona 3 was the blacksheep in that aspect. In Persona 1, 2 (and 2.5) gaining a Persona was usually the result of a vastly traumatic experience followed by figurative death staring you in the face. (Think something like going Super Saiyan) Persona 3's Envoker's used some bullshit excuse that imitating suicide is intense enough of a trigger to invoke their Personas (and they are very limited in what they can do) The only person in Persona 3 (and 4 I guess) that can use their Persona(s) freely are the Main Characters. Persona 4 works a bit differently because the fighting takes place in a pocket dimension(tl;dr where Personas come from), so their hardship is facing the evil within themselves and owning up to their own weaknesses, after they beat an evil version of themselves first, that is.
And how is that JoJo rule so hard to accept when it comes to Personas? Both of them are based on almost the same concept. Persona's lore is just more fleshed out.
And yes the fighting games are canon to the main story of Persona, Atlus co-wrote the plot themselves and make refferences to it in the Vita Re-Release of Persona 4, among other things.
That's not entirely correct either because Persona 3 also had you go through a life changing experience to awaken them, like . The evokers are just to help summon them if you're inexperienced at doing so.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on July 24, 2016, 09:01:43 PM
This is very late but reading the past couple of pages i have to ask which Hunter X Hunter you guys were watching? Meruem beating Cell is laughable to me, they are not near being in the same realm. Meruem would have been finished by a bomb if it wasn't for help( In the end the bombs poison killed him but the explosion was enough to kill him). Hell in terms of speed he probably cant even react to Cell, he was having trouble with mach speeds fighting Netero for awhile. I call severe wank.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on July 24, 2016, 09:44:29 PM
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NO RESEARCH
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on July 24, 2016, 10:02:07 PM
I know that, i'm speaking about the people who seem to think Cell would lose even outside of the show.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on July 24, 2016, 11:37:52 PM
That's not entirely correct either because Persona 3 also had you go through a life changing experience to awaken them, like . The evokers are just to help summon them if you're inexperienced at doing so.
Actually not quite. Did you forget Strega? They were earlier attempts at forcing a Persona out of someone Legit spoilers
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funded and worked on by the same people who later made evokers
And they functioned much more like Shadows, hurting the people who wielded them just as much as their enemies and they had to be constantly medicated to keep themselves stable. If anyone, Junpei got the right trigger from a certain someone dying. Although that does seem to be the case by the time Persona 4 Arena takes place, with the evokers being a formality.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2016, 12:13:05 AM
The Answer had flashbacks for every single party member showing the exact moment that their persona was awakened. The evokers are just there to force them out. Strega had to take drugs to keep their shit in check because they were artificially given them.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on July 25, 2016, 01:37:55 PM
This is very late but reading the past couple of pages i have to ask which Hunter X Hunter you guys were watching? Meruem beating Cell is laughable to me, they are not near being in the same realm. Meruem would have been finished by a bomb if it wasn't for help( In the end the bombs poison killed him but the explosion was enough to kill him). Hell in terms of speed he probably cant even react to Cell, he was having trouble with mach speeds fighting Netero for awhile. I call severe wank.
he gets powers from those he eats he ate cells arm, that was more than enough of a power boost
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on July 28, 2016, 12:52:35 PM
Those are plasma rifles, not pistols Screwattack. Already marked down Samus's stun pistol as having the ice beam, don't mix up the Halo guns too. Halo specifically has plasma pistols with different functionality than their plasma rifles.
And just one A.I.? Why are they making it harder on Carolina?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on July 30, 2016, 05:19:09 PM
Trailer for the season 3 finale of OMM
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 30, 2016, 05:25:39 PM
I predict Saitama wins with one serious punch and people get upset and it get a million views.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on July 31, 2016, 02:34:02 PM
sprite work looks great
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on August 03, 2016, 03:06:16 PM
Meta VS Carolina | Red VS Blue + DEATH BATTLE!
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on August 03, 2016, 03:29:41 PM
it aint gonna get me to watch RvB but the death battle was neat good job torrian
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FINALLY A GOOD MATCHUP
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Kirishima on August 03, 2016, 04:29:19 PM
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Unless Cammy has fought and survived something equivalent to Outworld lords she isn't gonna win.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on August 03, 2016, 04:37:58 PM
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ahh shit.....im gonna have to buy SFV now to avoid spoilers....
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on August 03, 2016, 06:00:17 PM
I'm suprised, but happy about who won DB.
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I honestly thought the Meta' gonna win, since he had almost all of the AIs on his side while Carolina had one. Luckily, that one AI is enough to help her take Meta out, since he is one of the most developed AI from the series. So happy that Carolina pulled through.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on August 03, 2016, 10:43:41 PM
wait......theres not a lot of sprite animators left on DB team, the shadow/mewtwo guy hopped off i hope we aint going back to ben animations
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on August 03, 2016, 10:46:00 PM
I hope it's 3D with Cammy using the SF5 model and Sonya using MKX. I honestly hate the sprite based fights.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on August 03, 2016, 11:49:53 PM
Geez. It's Death Battle, AND Red vs Blue. How did you still manage to disappoint?
Ugh. So wrong victor, way less dramatic battle than the people over at RvB do, which they actually had working on it so....what? Meta's walking animations were weird as hell too, I don't know what was going on there.
Well anyways. The next fight seems to be 2D. Shame, I would have hoped for 3D for that. Unless Cammy's getting a Bison or Dolls assist, or they vouch she's way too fast for anything Sonya does, then Sonya's got it. Faster, Cammy just snaps the neck for a win. Not an easy win, Sonya's got little death bots flying around, but nothing she can't deal with.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on August 04, 2016, 12:12:17 AM
I hope it's 3D with Cammy using the SF5 model and Sonya using MKX. I honestly hate the sprite based fights.
nah man.. I hope its a digitized sprite battle.. MK1 Sonya vs SF the movie Cammy. Atleast that's how I would do it.
Actually enjoyed this DB, felt like I was watching an ep of RvB. Dunno why Long John thinks it was the wrong victor, their main explanation is actually quite sound a reason.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: The Boss on August 04, 2016, 12:17:59 AM
Sonya VS Cammy,eh? sounds like it's time for the second "DEATH CATBATTLE" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on August 04, 2016, 12:27:16 AM
Because I hate everything and everything is wrong. >:(
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I can't say with complete assurance because as I've mentioned before in this thread, I stopped watching RvB when they went with 343 and starting working with Halo 4's stuff, so her more present attributes I'm left taking from their analysis. Her martial arts abilities are negated from the fact that they're all OCs of Halo and Spartans, they're all experts. If Carolina's forced to use all her armor abilities just to keep up, and still gets a beating, the one A.I. Church should have crashed easily.
Also, they put their main focus on that The Meta must fail due to multiple directions from multiple sources, while Carolina has a singular input of help, but...this hasn't stopped Meta in combat before. Over-abusing time stopping has forced him to leave, but it was barely used. Nor should it be needed to if he just stopped time from the get-go and killed her then. Even more-so this particular battle when even if the A.I.s have different choices in direction, they all have the same goal here; kill Carolina.
Also also Meta ALREADY beat Carolina before, the additions since Halo 4 didn't prove to help her at all. Also also also I don't like finding myself being comparable to Grif at the end. Not unless I get a free cone out of it. And I don't particularly like Carolina to begin with.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on August 06, 2016, 01:09:41 AM
New Superpower Beatdown is out.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bob8644 on August 06, 2016, 07:00:38 AM
Not a bad Death Battle compared to the ones we've got recently.
The direction they went with is something I think could be explored in future episodes.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on August 06, 2016, 11:35:05 AM
This is a million times better than the crappy DBX, Donald vs Colonel Sanders was the only good thing from it
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: R565 on August 06, 2016, 04:51:01 PM
...And no one got killed in the long run...(besides the Avengers...yikes...)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on August 06, 2016, 05:49:30 PM
Fucking amazing I've always wanted a limitless fight on the show
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on August 06, 2016, 05:58:53 PM
That was awesome. The animation is top notch and I actually enjoyed the fight and the ending a fair bit. :)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: rgveda99 on August 06, 2016, 06:47:41 PM
Waits for Squirrel Girl VS Saitama.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Bea on August 06, 2016, 07:23:32 PM
Do you want Saitama to lose THAT badly? D:
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on August 06, 2016, 08:01:31 PM
It's actually a pretty good idea for a matchup. Saitama's entire concept is to make fun of power level debates and overpowered comic book heroes. It's a perfect fit, or at the very least it's someone's OTP.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on August 07, 2016, 01:08:41 AM
I actually prefer Squirrel Girl to lose. Hoping they actually use that horrendous artwork in The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl comic if this match up materializes.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on August 07, 2016, 03:11:25 PM
new DBX
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on August 07, 2016, 04:50:00 PM
ehh, better than the last 2 but........eh not upset with the outcome....its just..... animation rewind tier
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: SNT on August 08, 2016, 03:16:00 AM
Outcome is bullshit, Rin would stomp that silly tart
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on August 08, 2016, 03:56:49 AM
Geez, I have fallen off the map with Naruto. When did Sakura learn the bondage straps Super Saiyan mode? I thought her big deal was getting a diamond on her forehead.
Eh, DBX by design is terrible for accuracy, but if the other girl does need explosions to gain enough momentum to be fast enough to deal big damage to Sakura, she's outclassed in speed since the beginning of the show. Beyond that, I can't say anything really about her, nor much fairly on Sakura evidently.
I don't have much to say on the Superman/One Punch Man one either because, well, I never really liked OPM since the beginning. Why are they trying to tie it into Death Battle's outcome though? You guys aren't under Screw Attack any more. And why are they still trying to play it that Goku's the bad guy? Angry fanboy be I or not, it's just been annoying ever since the first Death Battle.
But then I'm still in the camp Goku's way more than got Superman handled since before this whole god form stuff, so whatever. The animation for their OMM season finale was nicely done, at least.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: SNT on August 08, 2016, 09:49:14 AM
Spoiler: NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD(click to see content)
There's a bit to unpack here. The other girl is Rin Tohsaka from Fate/Stay Night. She's a sixth- or seventh-generation mage who fights in a series of battles to win the Holy Grail, fighting alongside and against summoned embodiments of mankind's greatest heroes.
The mage crests (green glowing lines in the arms/legs) should've been more than enough for Rin to keep up. Essentially they're doing the same thing, loading chakra/prana into their limbs to increase their workrate, resulting in super strength/speed. But while in Naruto it's a special thing that's easy to screw up and only really available to fine chakra controllers like ninja medics (Sakura, Tsunade), it's a regular expected thing for mages like Rin to learn.
The explosions are her second-weakest attacks, where she lobs prana-loaded gemstomes at you. It's the beefiest thing Rin does in the first third of Fate/Stay Night, and the fistful of them she used to propel her would've been enough to kill Hercules five times. Literally, she fights Hercules, takes five of his twelve lives, and is still considered the more useless character in her team. Detonating them that close to her should've obliterated her.
By the time the story's properly ending her big drawcard is a jeweled sword that channels prana from the thousands of alternate realities' versions of her and uses it to cut demons in half with hyper-intensity rainbows.
Basically this fight was end-game Sakura put up against the equivalent of Chuunin Arc Sakura. End-game Rin is more equivalent to someone like Kakashi or Sasuke.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on August 10, 2016, 03:24:06 PM
guess its coming out next week then...
inb4 lackluster animation
to save time, lets watch this just cuz
8:05
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on August 11, 2016, 08:14:58 PM
Glad I'm not the only one who remembers VG Exiles. The "story" parts were always.... ehhh... at best, but goddamn those fights. I wonder what that guy is doing these days.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on August 11, 2016, 10:30:58 PM
Making part 4 lol He had a rough hiatus but hes still doing stuff He hosted this collab @3:50 is his one
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: The Boss on August 14, 2016, 09:01:33 PM
Ok,I have to say that Sakura from Street Fig...I mean Naruto VS Rin from Fate/Stay night was good,but the Saitama VS Kenshiro was ridiculous and disappointing than Goku VS Superman
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on August 14, 2016, 11:50:02 PM
What was wrong with Goku vs Superman? That was some of their best animation ever.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: The Boss on August 15, 2016, 12:44:09 AM
but the Saitama VS Kenshiro was ridiculous and disappointing than Goku VS Superman
maybe he was talking about the outcome?
Probably but Actually I don't like it for those reasons 1) This guy that Saitama faced,Dosen't look as the Kenshiro we know,Kenshiro had 3 holes in his body and his hair is brown 2) Look carefully at Saitama trying to punch kenshiro at 2:03,It shows the animation is terrible
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on August 15, 2016, 03:37:39 PM
Sonya preview is out
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on August 15, 2016, 06:28:57 PM
....how exactly can cammy win this?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Infinite kyo on August 15, 2016, 06:35:46 PM
sonya's gonna take this MK characters always win over street fighter characters....well except for akuma
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: The Boss on August 15, 2016, 11:47:24 PM
This will be awesome,Can't wait to watch this ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on August 17, 2016, 03:18:41 PM
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called it
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tracer vs scout calling it
animation......i'll give em this one, better than the DBXs and shadow vs mewtwo one but they should have used better sprites
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on August 17, 2016, 04:08:05 PM
Agree with the outcome but that animation... jeeze...
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Kirishima on August 17, 2016, 04:33:16 PM
Sad, I think i'd say my favorite is still Snake vs Sam Fisher. How about you guys?
My favorite one was Deadpool VS Deathstroke
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on August 17, 2016, 07:12:29 PM
I don't really see what was wrong with that episode? Certainly nothing bad enough that people (in this thread, absolutely nowhere else that I've seen) are calling it the end of the series?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on August 17, 2016, 10:43:08 PM
This was definitely a filler battle in terms of animation. Don't they have like only one really good animator on staff?
Anyway... the next match sounds interesting, but you what would be better here? A Death Battle between 5 members of Overwatch and the team from Team Fortress 2.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Titiln on August 17, 2016, 11:25:24 PM
they put out a decidedly average cammy sonya battle and now you want a multicharacter 3d animated battle
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on August 17, 2016, 11:58:58 PM
Isn't the Overwatch comic not even out yet? The thing has little to no story to its name in game as far as I know, and minimum outside. It's multiplayer focused Desitny.
I guess the equally detailed character Scout from Team Fortress that everyone's suggesting is the only one I can tie to the next fight. I don't play Team Fortress, isn't Scout just a teenager hyped up on sugary drinks with a baseball bat and a mediocre shotgun? And a clone or some nonsense to explain the respawn gameplay mechanic, but nothing really special? Tracer from appearances alone has the hi-tech advantage, and speed being Scout's deal she outclasses him as well. Does she have zero close range options?
Not surprised, just disappointed at more Street Fighter losses, especially an exceedingly much more interesting character losing. Speed should trump Sonya's tech and close range combat as far as I'm concerned, Cammy should win. Oh well. For the sprites they chose, it was animated alright, if nothing special, but I still don't see why they didn't go with something nicer that SFII Cammy.
Sad, I think i'd say my favorite is still Snake vs Sam Fisher. How about you guys?
Huh? Occasional disappointing episodes don't mean the show's coming to a sudden halt. Unless you mean that they're reaching out to Overwatch for views or something, in which case yeah, it's kinda stupid to choose unless they've made her the winner right off the bat when picking her and the opponent to make up for her being new. Which would seem to be the case against poor Scout, or Tifa, but the show didn't end back then when people were calling foul.
Just made some of us decide to not watch RWBY.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on August 18, 2016, 12:46:50 AM
No I meant that abortion of pixels flooding my screen was basically the worst fan animation i've seen in recent memory.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Titiln on August 18, 2016, 01:00:24 AM
Isn't the Overwatch comic not even out yet? The thing has little to no story to its name in game as far as I know, and minimum outside. It's multiplayer focused Desitny.
so what
it's a massively popular game and the characters have moves and that's all you need
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on August 18, 2016, 01:06:33 AM
In the most barebones manner, I guess. Can work it like the Kanto starters three-way battle or Goomba vs Koopa. It just comes across that, unlike those matches, Tracer doesn't have much to say about simple because the canon hasn't been told, not that they're just commonplace random monsters but an actual person we don't have the info on yet. So to make up for it they'll give her the win anyways so it doesn't come back to bite them in, say, 6 months the comic comes out and says "Tracer can actually rise from the dead with the magic power of the moon" and contradicts something Death Battle pulls.
Basically I'd prefer they took their practice they've had with Naruto characters showing, waiting until its story was done or at least its current arc.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Darkflare on August 18, 2016, 03:12:55 AM
Isn't the Overwatch comic not even out yet? The thing has little to no story to its name in game as far as I know, and minimum outside. It's multiplayer focused Desitny.
They'll use what's known on her backstory, the shorts she has appeared in and her in game abilities. It's enough.
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I guess the equally detailed character Scout from Team Fortress that everyone's suggesting is the only one I can tie to the next fight. I don't play Team Fortress, isn't Scout just a teenager hyped up on sugary drinks with a baseball bat and a mediocre shotgun?
A mediocre shotgun that can two shot the Heavy at point blank. Sugary drinks that can provide invincibility or more speed and damage at the cost of defense depending on which drink.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on August 18, 2016, 03:33:19 AM
Heavy's not exactly wearing full body armor.
(https://yt3.ggpht.com/-185MptQuu0Q/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/_gBUXeTmvgc/s900-c-k-no-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg) I can see an average shotgun taking this guy and his vest down in two shots.
And yeah, point blank. Best of luck to him with that. If there's a character in Overwatch that also has an invincibility special, then I'm guessing they can reason that she has experience dealing with it too, since I'm also presuming that'll be his choice drink, since even less chance of living to raise his speed against a teleporter isn't his best option.
Plus Death Battle doesn't seem to value invincibility too highly, judging from DoomGuy and Shadow. But hey, maybe they'll surprise me, he bats off her head when her Iron Man chest piece runs out of juice.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on August 18, 2016, 03:35:31 AM
Wasn't Riptor a guy who transferred his brain into a dino in the original as well? Killer Instict lore wasn't ever my thing, but I thought that was the case. Unless you mean the dino itself was female.
I've noticed too it seems their pairings of male vs female, the female tends to win. But then, any battle I've wanted to see with such a case has also been the result as far as I can reason. Sailor Moon vs Sora, Samus vs Master Chief (Kinda iffy to be honest, both have reasons they should win. Plus I ignore anything post Bungie or Other M), heck, I'm somewhat leaning on the Elsa side of the joke match between Elsa and Sub-Zero. For the most part though, their reasoning is sound why they win. Except Carolina standing against The Meta, screw that noise.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on August 21, 2016, 02:04:43 AM
it wasn't really made clear in the original KI if Riptor was a female or male , the only one hint was in the ending when you beat the game with Riptor and eggs where showing , yet the comic based on the game has showed other Riptors , which also may suggest that another one of them layed the eggs , in the remake Riptor was indeed made a she, death battle was still calling Riptor a "He"
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on August 21, 2016, 04:23:22 PM
DBX is now doing their own version of the same match up from OMM
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And just like OMM, Silver loses. Again.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on August 21, 2016, 04:35:38 PM
What was the point of this one? OMM's version was made unknowing of Mewtwo vs Shadow until some time into production but came out around the same time, surely this was started after OMM then put out theirs. I thought the reason behind DBX was to do matches they could do for Death Battle, but don't want to give that much research into. If that specifically was already done, why bother? Because Ben can't stand Silver?
Eh. Anyways, it's alright. OMM did it better though. Would be nice to actually have Dragon Ball do well in an actual Death Battle, joke matches aside, maybe some more accurate analysis...but I'm not placing high hopes of that outcome. Until we get the trifecta and there is a Trunks vs Silver Death Battle, that is.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Darkflare on August 21, 2016, 09:18:03 PM
What was the point of this one? OMM's version was made unknowing of Mewtwo vs Shadow until some time into production but came out around the same time, surely this was started after OMM then put out theirs. I thought the reason behind DBX was to do matches they could do for Death Battle, but don't want to give that much research into. If that specifically was already done, why bother? Because Ben can't stand Silver?
Eh. Anyways, it's alright. OMM did it better though. Would be nice to actually have Dragon Ball do well in an actual Death Battle, joke matches aside, maybe some more accurate analysis...but I'm not placing high hopes of that outcome. Until we get the trifecta and there is a Trunks vs Silver Death Battle, that is.
firstly, back when there were trailers of dbx, this was always seen in the teaser so this was planned before omm
and secondly, no. the reason behind DBX is to make omm again now that all the omm animators had that falling out issue with screw attack, its just them telling less popular animators to animate whatever they want. it has nothing to do with what ben wants, since they arent scripting the matches
so far, 2 out of 5 dbz death battles have been wins. thats better than FF's ratio and marios ratio
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on August 23, 2016, 06:07:46 PM
Whoa back up, what falling out with the OMM animators?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on August 23, 2016, 07:10:17 PM
OMM animators didn't like how they were being treated by Screwattack so they split and did OMM on their own. That's why it's no longer part of SA's channel.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on August 23, 2016, 08:48:04 PM
Why did you think we got a bare bones lil mac vs ippo season finale on screw attack and then a full version on hyper guage?
The entire season 3of DB has had to milk more out of torrian as he was literally the only animator who didn't leave Since then they had to get others for the sprite animations CVAnimations, kixx06 i think his name is, the dude who did ganon/bowser and mewtwo/shadow(Who's also left now)
Without the maplematorsand mr lange, the sprite animations wont get any better any time soon
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: The Boss on August 24, 2016, 07:14:35 PM
Tracer preview is out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ5LraQF7wE
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Yagoshi300 on August 24, 2016, 07:35:00 PM
Why did you think we got a bare bones lil mac vs ippo season finale on screw attack and then a full version on hyper guage?
The entire season 3of DB has had to milk more out of torrian as he was literally the only animator who didn't leave Since then they had to get others for the sprite animations CVAnimations, kixx06 i think his name is, the dude who did ganon/bowser and mewtwo/shadow(Who's also left now)
Without the maplematorsand mr lange, the sprite animations wont get any better any time soon
The Dude who did Ganon vs. Bowser and Mewtwo vs. Shadow Animations's Username is Currently "Donimation"
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: The Boss on August 31, 2016, 07:23:51 PM
Scout is coming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02bFP8O7QvI
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on September 04, 2016, 03:20:43 PM
New DBX
Edit: Retroactive fixed link
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Infinite kyo on September 04, 2016, 05:07:52 PM
bruh Ryu wanna become a Pokemon master now lol anyway i enjoyed it
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 04, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
Well....that's a weird matchup I like weird match ups but this...was weird
Also Wtf pxz sprites?
Edit: Aaaand it's been removed
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: The Boss on September 05, 2016, 01:09:53 AM
The Copyright took over ScrewAttack once again. Goddamn it. I hate that copyright system,It is so annoying
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on September 05, 2016, 01:24:07 AM
How in the hell was that video infringing on any copyrights? Was it the NxC Ryu sprite?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 05, 2016, 09:18:20 AM
Music most likely, not too sue
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: The Boss on September 05, 2016, 12:08:13 PM
Or perhaps,It was for the new rules of YouTube
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on September 07, 2016, 03:13:09 PM
Annnnd it's out.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 07, 2016, 03:56:45 PM
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I lost my bet. imma take my L. buuuuuuut Despite knowing nothing about either overwatch and TF2, isn't it odd that they based tracers feats from her cinematic trailers and cutscenes ignoring her cooldown and whatnot but literally said no to scouts cutscenes and cinematics solely basing him on his gameplay mechanics
"Sure he can take 3 rockets blowing him up but thats cinematic so that doesn't count" "Tracer on the otherhand can use infinite blinks with no reprocussion and has a very faster reaction time as we can see from this cinematic"
also the comments said they left out a lot of weapons no.... death battle..... no......
as for next time
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if they make ken fight sub zero imma riot
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on September 07, 2016, 04:12:38 PM
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It was an OK battle... but something tells me it was off. Maybe it's me and the fact that I have little knowledge of Team Fortress 2, but you would think there was more to Scout's arsenal.
As for the next one... No Sub-Zero since they did an Street Fighter vs. Mortal Kombat match up recently with Cammy vs. Sonya. How about Ken vs. Terry Bogard? KoF XIV is out and why not take advantage of that... Not to mention that Death Battle needs moar BUSTAH WOLF!
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Darkflare on September 07, 2016, 09:18:21 PM
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I think there are two main things that bug me on this one and they both happen to play against the Scout. First of all, they mention the Sandman, Force a nature and Soda Popper, but Scout only uses his stock weapons + Bonk. It's rather odd they get mentioned but don't see use at all whereas every other Death Battle if an ability or weapon is mentioned in the breakdown, you can expect to see it in the animation. The other thing was when Tracer's abilities were disabled Scout could have easily closed the distance with his superior foot speed. They should have had her fight off the Scout instead.
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Post by: Prototype God on September 07, 2016, 11:48:29 PM
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I don't really disagree with the outcome of the fight, but it did not feel like I was watching the scout fight tracer. The whole point of both characters is that they both hit and run, so I was expecting a more dynamic and mobile gun fight with both characters running and gunning. Scout should not have been standing around for most of the fight. Too much of a hassle to properly animate within the deadlines I guess.
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Post by: Long John Killer on September 07, 2016, 11:55:51 PM
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Probably stupid question as there's so little information out there for Overwatch yet, but Tracer's chest thingy, does it rewind time if she's killed to prevent her death? Or is that a manual thing? The former sounds the obvious choice, but I presume it's either not specified yet or they outright said no early on to get by the whole respawn mechanic in the game or something.
Anyways, yeah, I figured she'd win. Would be unfair to give her a loss when the actual story's yet to be told and may contain even greater details. Or possibly more reasons why she should lose, but hey. Also that future tech is an immediate advantage. Actual training, saving the world and being the main protagonist doesn't hurt either.
Next fight, well, the common request is Ken vs Sub-Zero. But I still like the joke suggestion for Sub-Zero versus Elsa better than that, so I'd rather not use up Subby for that. Though I suspect that's still who they're going with.
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Post by: Darkflare on September 08, 2016, 12:41:21 AM
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It's a manual thing. The only one allowed to bring people back from the dead in Overwatch is Mercy
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Post by: Long John Killer on September 08, 2016, 12:50:15 AM
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Seems a tad bit silly, dunnit? Spending all that effort and time, plus whatever friendship she had with Gorilla Grodd that he'd go to such extremes, to make such a time machine that reverts time to cancel out damage, but not so if she's fatally wounded while the machine's fine.
Ah well, maybe that'll be a thing in the comic or story mode when it comes out. Or maybe I'm just expecting too much out of this thing, I want to like Overwatch but online-only FPS I got burnt out of me such a long time ago.
Anyways thanks.
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Post by: D.R.B on September 08, 2016, 01:17:42 AM
watched the video ......
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called it, women mostly wins in DB anyway
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Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on September 10, 2016, 10:12:50 AM
If they don't pull some Violent Ken shit or use the Satsui No Hadou for some reason... I don't see how Ken could win this.
Well, Ken can scare his opponents to death with his ugly SFV face.
Especially since lots of women find him disturbing.
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Post by: Thagr8test on September 12, 2016, 09:25:14 PM
Found this on youtube worth a watch Leonardo vs Tim Drake
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Post by: JustNoPoint on September 12, 2016, 11:07:18 PM
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The build up for that was horrid. Leo was only shown cowering and getting beat up except in the small scene were he held his own against the Shredder Elite for a bit. Also where did the katana slice Robyn? In both instances they looked fatal. Especially the second.
Don't get me wrong, even without the week of prep I'm not sure Leo would win. But I didn't feel this one and not sure why they decided to give Robyn an advantage to prep anyway. Though Donnie could have made similar explosives like Robyn had and Leo wouldn't have needed lots of prep to use those.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 12, 2016, 11:28:36 PM
Never take animationrewind videos as factual, its done by a guy who knows more on fnaf and spongebob than any other subject Good example
Also its a 50/50 chance a animationrewind vid is gonna be decent fight wise
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Post by: Negi Springfield on September 14, 2016, 07:10:43 PM
Ken preview
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Post by: 地獄の花 on September 15, 2016, 02:44:06 AM
nice hope the battle isn't as awful like the recent ones.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 15, 2016, 06:09:21 AM
Cvanimations doing this one as well Take that as you will
Its the best they have and i dont personally mind this animator Though they should get this guy on board
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Post by: 地獄の花 on September 15, 2016, 06:14:37 AM
ryu vs karate furry guy was ok.
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Post by: Jesuszilla on September 15, 2016, 06:23:47 AM
Cvanimations doing this one as well Take that as you will
Its the best they have and i dont personally mind this animator
Too bad he's a piece of shit who didn't care whether or not the sprite editors got credit for their spritework.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 15, 2016, 06:30:06 AM
Im new to this news
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Post by: Jesuszilla on September 15, 2016, 06:45:06 AM
I posted it here a while back but either crossed out or deleted the post once I contacted ScrewAttack to make sure it was resolved (because I didn't want them getting any shit because of this guy) but here goes:
I knew CVanimations back from the VGDC days. When he was making the animation for Thor vs. Kratos, I said to make sure he credited Loganir & Blackdragon for the Thor sprites. He said he'd make sure they got credit. Then Yoshi 1-Up of 1-Up Island proceeded to mock me in the FB group where Luis posted the audition by saying that the creditors of the original VG sprites used in animation should be credited as well. I PM'd Luis afterward (disclaimer: I did not know ScrewAttack started crediting MUGEN authors a long time ago when I made the first comment, however that is quite irrelevant to his reaction) (not censoring first name because it's on Twitter anyway): (http://i.imgur.com/j7Hz2LB.png)
I went public with this, even contacting Ben and Chad from ScrewAttack, who kindly reassured me that it was merely an audition that wouldn't be posted on SA, and they'd make sure that any artists would be credited: (http://i.imgur.com/JieDfOy.png)
Again, I jumped the gun by saying what I did to Luis (god I feel like early-mid 2000's KFM saying all this), but that doesn't excuse his reaction, which was certainly unexpected given his work with sprite animations.
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Post by: Iori730 on September 15, 2016, 07:22:23 AM
I did not know ScrewAttack started crediting MUGEN authors a long time ago when I made the first comment
Again, I jumped the gun by saying what I did to Luis (god I feel like early-mid 2000's KFM saying all this), but that doesn't excuse his reaction, which was certainly unexpected given his work with sprite animations.
maybe you should stop jumping the Gun...
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Post by: Jesuszilla on September 15, 2016, 07:28:02 AM
When is Shin DIO's ban up?
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Post by: DatKofGuy on September 15, 2016, 10:02:09 AM
Don't start these off topic jabs again. I see you get on this kick again and I'm going to start banning. This is unacceptable.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on September 15, 2016, 05:14:58 PM
So now that we know its Ken vs Terry as we hoped.. who's your money one? Wonder if they gonna be taking the Fatal Fury OVAs as canon, coz then Terry will most probably win
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Post by: JustNoPoint on September 15, 2016, 05:25:15 PM
If it's Terry from OVA then he can beat a god basically :P Ken has no chance.
If it's just Ken vs Terry then it could go either way. I don't think Ken has killed before. Though KOF Terry hasn't either, that was only FF Terry that killed Geese? I forget now ahhh so confusing
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Post by: Infinite kyo on September 15, 2016, 05:47:36 PM
i honestly dont know who to cheer for lol i like them both but if they use terrys OVA attacks like the Hadou Senpukyaku which basically one shotted Geese then Terry has a massive advantage but idk its unlikely that they will use that anyway
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Post by: Negi Springfield on September 15, 2016, 05:58:48 PM
Note to self: pay more attention to which topic you're posting in when you have multiple tabs open
Edit: Let's salvage this post
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Post by: Titiln on September 15, 2016, 06:15:29 PM
what
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Post by: 地獄の花 on September 16, 2016, 04:24:18 AM
my money is on terry. terry has officially defeated krauser and geese who did ken beat?
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Post by: JustNoPoint on September 16, 2016, 04:27:36 AM
He's beaten Ryu who's beaten almost everyone big in SF. That count?
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Post by: Duos.act on September 16, 2016, 04:32:20 AM
Ken beat Gill in Ryu Final.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 16, 2016, 06:37:00 AM
I highly doubt punches arent pulled when ryu and ken fight When ryu fights the bad guys its usually to the death or til noticeable defeat
Kens too chill for that, TERRY on the other hand kinda killed geese. Despite being happy go lucky, terry's always going all out since....y'know___snk's ridiculous like that I'm cool with either winning, but i think terry's got this covered
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Post by: DatKofGuy on September 16, 2016, 09:18:15 AM
When did he kill Geese?
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Post by: D.R.B on September 16, 2016, 01:38:35 PM
Terry didn't really kill Geese or krauser , Geese was able to tank all of Terry killing moves and was only deafeted caz he fall out of his tall building twice , the first time he survived the fall and the 2nd time he was dead , krauser simply went salty , diving to the sea after he was beaten ,but still wasn't killed directly by Terry
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Post by: DatKofGuy on September 16, 2016, 01:56:41 PM
Exactly, neither of them have really killed anyone. They both have come close to being killed though
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 16, 2016, 08:22:14 PM
eeeeyyyy
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Post by: D.R.B on September 17, 2016, 01:44:02 AM
if they decided to use feats from the cartoon....Ken may have greater chance of winning
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Post by: 地獄の花 on September 17, 2016, 04:01:23 AM
ken's a jerk "oh ryu your arm might be broken here have some hadouken!"
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Post by: Lichtbringer on September 17, 2016, 08:10:09 AM
So now that we know its Ken vs Terry as we hoped.. who's your money one? Wonder if they gonna be taking the Fatal Fury OVAs as canon, coz then Terry will most probably win
They will probably use it, they always use stuff that has never been in the games but in comics and animes, like Dan could use dark hadou powers and stuff like that, but I will call bullshit if they turn Ken into his Voilent form to give him a advantage over Terry, since he normaly can't get that form without "help", unlike Ryu who can turn into his Evil form by him self.
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Post by: Darkflare on September 17, 2016, 08:16:25 AM
Exactly, neither of them have really killed anyone. They both have come close to being killed though
Right, I should probably give a reminder that Death Battle removes that pesky thing called morality for their characters and make everyone willing to kill even if they wouldn't otherwise.
So while both Ken and Terry would just have a regular duel under normal circumstances, they're both willing to fight to the death in Death battle.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on September 17, 2016, 09:51:02 AM
Exactly, neither of them have really killed anyone. They both have come close to being killed though
Right, I should probably give a reminder that Death Battle removes that pesky thing called morality for their characters and make everyone willing to kill even if they wouldn't otherwise.
So while both Ken and Terry would just have a regular duel under normal circumstances, they're both willing to fight to the death in Death battle.
You completely missed the context of that post. We know DB does that... we were talking about whether either of them canonically killed anyone... since it was mentioned in s post earlier that terry killed geese.. which he didn't
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Post by: Infinite kyo on September 17, 2016, 10:31:59 AM
i thought only ryu and Alex beat Gill never knew ken beat him and yeah Geese...kinda killed himself lol if that makes any sense
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Post by: Zemilia on September 18, 2016, 01:25:56 AM
Season 4 of OMM just started with.. Round 3 of Oni vs Kenpachi
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 18, 2016, 01:26:14 PM
It was announced beforehand twice
nice that they added voice acting(And salvaged chuchoryu's sprites)
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Post by: FirePony on September 18, 2016, 01:32:03 PM
They give credit for the sprites used or not?
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 18, 2016, 02:33:40 PM
Yeah, in the credits They credit spriters
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Post by: Weiss Circal on September 18, 2016, 03:01:57 PM
Exactly, neither of them have really killed anyone. They both have come close to being killed though
Right, I should probably give a reminder that Death Battle removes that pesky thing called morality for their characters and make everyone willing to kill even if they wouldn't otherwise.
So while both Ken and Terry would just have a regular duel under normal circumstances, they're both willing to fight to the death in Death battle.
So true.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 18, 2016, 03:24:15 PM
What timing
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Post by: FirePony on September 18, 2016, 03:30:10 PM
This is great to credit spriters. :)
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 18, 2016, 09:31:55 PM
Exactly, neither of them have really killed anyone. They both have come close to being killed though
Right, I should probably give a reminder that Death Battle removes that pesky thing called morality for their characters and make everyone willing to kill even if they wouldn't otherwise.
So while both Ken and Terry would just have a regular duel under normal circumstances, they're both willing to fight to the death in Death battle.
They didnt make flash a murderer, quicksilver just happened to fly into a sword....they could do the same with these two
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Post by: Infinite kyo on September 19, 2016, 02:19:44 PM
soo i really want that kenpachi to be in Mugen lmfao but i dont think thats his Bankai its his Shikai still badass though
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Post by: Negi Springfield on September 21, 2016, 03:39:44 PM
Terry preview out
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 22, 2016, 01:51:07 AM
someone said ova terry is a guaranteed win What's he done?
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Post by: JustNoPoint on September 22, 2016, 01:52:51 AM
Became more powerful than a god made of pure energy. Terry was a SSJ by the end of the 3rd movie.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on September 25, 2016, 04:35:21 PM
Bruce Lee vs The World
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Post by: DatKofGuy on September 25, 2016, 07:26:39 PM
They could've atleast used the sprites that were edited to look like Bruce lee's yellow rider suit... instead its Fei-long vs Feilong. Animation was ok I guess.. yet another underwhelming episode though. They really need to bring in some new animators..
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Post by: Long John Killer on September 25, 2016, 08:00:23 PM
I got a laugh out of Hitmonlee. Had to rewatch to get what was the deal with Rock trying to kill Marshall Law though.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 25, 2016, 10:35:50 PM
They could've atleast used the sprites that were edited to look like Bruce lee's yellow rider suit... instead its Fei-long vs Feilong. Animation was ok I guess.. yet another underwhelming episode though. They really need to bring in some new animators..
They are, theres a lot of dbx and db animators This guy is new
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Post by: Titiln on September 25, 2016, 11:05:10 PM
i liked the idea but the proportions are all over the place. liu kang looks very small
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 26, 2016, 01:00:13 PM
Went back to look at the sasuke hiei fight Its got more dislikes than likes
Jesus
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Post by: Long John Killer on September 26, 2016, 06:17:20 PM
It was fairly ridiculous in execution and ending, even for a joke match when people were requesting a serious one. I'm not actually sure rock spikes could harm Hiei? Less sure about Sasuke, having dropped out of the seires before his powers got really weird, but I thought he could still poof into a log when hurt, and Hiei's got tougher skin than that. No research doesn't mean characters doing things they wouldn't won't rile people up.
To jump into that discussion of feats for a second, doesn't Hiei counter most of Sasuke's big advantages he has in the Naruto world? Copy eye works on Naruto-specific ninjitsu, something Hiei doesn't do. His third eye prevents any of those illusions. His black dragon seems a reasonable match to Sasuke's giant skeleton ogre thing?
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Post by: 地獄の花 on September 27, 2016, 12:12:26 AM
doesn't hiei's black dragon could burn anything? if i remember correctly.
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Post by: Long John Killer on September 27, 2016, 12:24:14 AM
From what I remember, the dragon was unstoppable by anything in the series, but required Hiei to sacrifice part of his body to get charred up to use and was not under his control and would just as likely feel like killing him as the opponent, or both. Lets presume it wants to kill the bigger thing, Sasuke's stand.
But then I haven't watch it in its entirety in ages. Bits and pieces more recently, but nothing especially pertaining to Hiei.
Wikis are useful. (http://yuyuhakusho.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_of_the_Darkness_Flame_(technique)) So I was kinda wrong, it says it has unmatched destructive capabilities, but then it's stopped by people higher up on the power level chain than Hiei. Also he used to be in danger of it attacking him, now if it does he just gets a super form by absorbing it.
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Post by: Duos.act on September 27, 2016, 02:29:20 AM
People dislike the Hiei vs Sasuke fight because it's basically just a circle jerk of two characters Ben dislikes made to look ridiculous out of spite.
I still maintain that the worst episode of DBX is either that ass ugly Saitama vs Kenshiro with the Kenshiro model that looks like McCree from Overwatch, or Ryu vs Lucario where they seemingly threw random voice clips together onto Ryu's moves presumably because the animator never played an SF game in his life and only knew of Ryu from Smash Bros.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 28, 2016, 03:01:47 PM
I read naruto to the end If hiei isn't island busting level at the very least, he can't get pas sasukes perfect Susanoo
Sasuke also has the rinnegan as well so like he's godtier for a human Amaterasu is his black fire that can't be extinguished at all He is expert at mindfucks that knock out opponents and can make those mini planet things nagato and madara can do
Flight and Susanoo power added to the mix he's op
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Post by: 地獄の花 on September 28, 2016, 03:04:34 PM
then explain me why he can't kill naruto?
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Post by: Negi Springfield on September 28, 2016, 04:25:40 PM
Because Naruto is poorly written trite?
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Post by: DatKofGuy on September 28, 2016, 05:37:08 PM
Cuz naruto out classed him Dude had every tailed beasts power in him by the end of the manga among multiple styles of elements to use As well as sage mode AND So6P mode
If you think SSJ blue kaioken is a bs combination, naruto would blow ye away
THAT ASIDE
CVAnimation improved this time
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we all saw it coming, but jungle theme AGAIN? We've heard it twice now
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Post by: Negi Springfield on September 28, 2016, 05:58:51 PM
Called it.
CVAnimation has 1 strike left with me before I just ignore his matches though.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 28, 2016, 06:03:54 PM
What was wrong with this one?
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Post by: Zemilia on September 28, 2016, 06:12:54 PM
As cool as the fight is, animation is pretty... underwhelming. It's giving me Sector vs Fulgore vibes in terms of how the match went down.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 28, 2016, 06:14:58 PM
Jeez thats just offensive
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Post by: Infinite kyo on September 28, 2016, 06:47:23 PM
eh i didn't mind it wasn't even that bad tbh lol im just glad ma boi Terry won
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Post by: DatKofGuy on September 28, 2016, 06:50:54 PM
Urgh.. that was disgustingly disappointing. They really need to start standardizing their research.... coz fuck if you gonna use the Fatal Fury Ova as your main base for Terry then clearly you arent doing your research properly. But yeah, called that shit....
Now what is with the "10 10 16 Everything changes" bit?
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Post by: Long John Killer on September 28, 2016, 07:09:48 PM
I thought it was a Stranger Things ad, don't they use neon and are all 80's? Haven't seen it yet, don't got Netflix.
Fight was one-sided, as presumed, but alright. Not one of their best, not nearly one of their worsts. Gotta work on that finale to it, though, ended too simple. Funny to see Dan died again though.
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Next is Amy Rose and not who you think it'll be, huh? So no King Dedede yet. Bummer. I could see either winning possibly in that, Dedede's dumb enough to give Amy enough advantage when he doesn't just overpower her. But not consistently dumb, so he'd likely win anyways.
Dunno who else they'd go for off the top of my head. Presume it's not based on the hammer, maybe someone else pink, small and fast. All I got is Sailor Chibi Moon which I doubt. That'd be a weird matchup, especially as the first Sailor Moon character to appear.
Has Amy ever gone Super in any of the games, side ones or not? I don't recall her doing so, but it seems in the Sonic universe any hedgehog gets the ability to, and they have no qualms with giving them all the emeralds from the start if they can use them.
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Post by: EveryonesKouhai on September 28, 2016, 08:02:54 PM
I knew that Terry was gonna win, but why do they use the ovas as research since they're non canon
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on September 28, 2016, 09:32:29 PM
Next is Amy Rose and not who you think it'll be, huh? So no King Dedede yet. Bummer. I could see either winning possibly in that, Dedede's dumb enough to give Amy enough advantage when he doesn't just overpower her. But not consistently dumb, so he'd likely win anyways.
Dunno who else they'd go for off the top of my head. Presume it's not based on the hammer, maybe someone else pink, small and fast. All I got is Sailor Chibi Moon which I doubt. That'd be a weird matchup, especially as the first Sailor Moon character to appear.
Has Amy ever gone Super in any of the games, side ones or not? I don't recall her doing so, but it seems in the Sonic universe any hedgehog gets the ability to, and they have no qualms with giving them all the emeralds from the start if they can use them.
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Not the games, but I think one of the Sonic comics made by Archie gave Amy the ability to turn super once. I might be wrong, though, because I already lost track of Archie's Sonic comics pretty fast.
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Post by: Dumanios on September 28, 2016, 10:53:42 PM
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Knew Terry would win. Kinda wish Ken had Violent or Evil mode, but that would've delayed the inevitable tbh.
Might've been nifty to watch though.
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Post by: Duos.act on September 28, 2016, 10:55:27 PM
Evil Ken isn't a thing that actually exists, and Violent Ken is just brainwashed Ken which would have required Bison to interfere.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 28, 2016, 11:13:49 PM
Violent ken is orochi ken Brainwashed ken didn't even do much anyway
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Post by: The Boss on September 28, 2016, 11:15:32 PM
Wow,All the cast of Street Fighter is dead,At least Blanka and Akuma survived., But we still have Alex or Elena or Urien or Ibuki etc Also,I think Amy had to fight Dedede again.,Or anybody else?,I dunno.
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Post by: Duos.act on September 28, 2016, 11:21:08 PM
Also,I think Amy had to fight Dedede again.,Or anybody else?,I dunno.
As they said in the video, Amy's opponent is not who you expect. King Dedede is the expected opponent due to previous requests and DBX, so it's most likely not him.
So my guess it's someone else that like Amy represents at least one of these traits; small, annoying, pink, hammer proficiency, weakest of the good guys, kidnapped often or is a stalker.
Possibly Princess Peach? Ties Sonic's girl to Mario's girl. That last match with Peach against Zelda legit made me hate Princess Peach though, she had no chance to win. Still a weird matchup against Amy, but not as much as Mewtwo and Shadow so could happen.
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Post by: The Boss on September 28, 2016, 11:30:40 PM
Also,I think Amy had to fight Dedede again.,Or anybody else?,I dunno.
As they said in the video, Amy's opponent is not who you expect. King Dedede is the expected opponent due to previous requests and DBX, so it's most likely not him.
So my guess it's someone else that like Amy represents at least one of these traits; small, annoying, pink, hammer proficiency, weakest of the good guys, kidnapped often or is a stalker.
Possibly Princess Peach? Ties Sonic's girl to Mario's girl. That last match with Peach against Zelda legit made me hate Princess Peach though, she had no chance to win. Still a weird matchup against Amy, but not as much as Mewtwo and Shadow so could happen.
Hmm.Yup I agree with you,Perhaps the Princess B(CENSORED,REASON:SWEARING),I mean Peach would be her opponent
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Post by: Bea on September 29, 2016, 01:00:18 AM
Ugh, that animation was terrible. A bit better than Sonia vs Cammy, but damn, still awful. And I am growing really sick of this whole fight to the death gimmick that they and Super Power Beat Down use. What is the problem to fight till KO instead? :|
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Post by: Long John Killer on September 29, 2016, 02:30:41 AM
I'd suppose if you want to argue who'd win in a fight, you'd want to put it at its extreme and to the death is a certainty more conclusive than just knocking out.
While I'm not on board with Raiden killing Wolverine, make it just to a K.O. and you have a much wider selection of combatants that can just make Logan take a snooze instead of killing the popular unkillable mutant. That said, when character morals come into play or murder just doesn't fit the fight description, it would be nice for a different bar to be set as to who wins, via just short of killing or indeed a simple knock out. But that's not likely going to be Death Battle that does it, what with the name and all.
If there were another Goku vs Superman, and we're not still on the crazy train that Superman can do everything possible there is in existance so that Goku wins, I'd prefer it by draining Superman to the last of his strength, have the death blow open, then simply offer a hand and say "Good fight" or something to that extent. Don't need to Spirit Bomb his very existence away or something like that.
Super Power Beat Down I don't have any excuse for, it's all up to them how they want the fights to play, as far as I know there's no rule other than majority of votes win. Nightwing vs Winter Solider just seemed wrong, so I'll agree with you on them reeling it back a bit.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on September 29, 2016, 03:47:04 AM
Wow,All the cast of Street Fighter is dead,At least Blanka and Akuma survived., But we still have Alex or Elena or Urien or Ibuki etc Also,I think Amy had to fight Dedede again.,Or anybody else?,I dunno.
seeing screwattack lately it's probably gonna be harleyquinn then i'm gonna stop watching their bullshit.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Big Meme on September 29, 2016, 04:56:29 PM
My money's on Nora Valkyrie.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DelusionTrim on September 29, 2016, 05:09:46 PM
Man Street Fighter characters in general have the worst time in these Death Battles... I think only 2 characters have won so far out of like 6?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 29, 2016, 05:13:07 PM
There is no Orochi Ken. There is no Evil Ken. I think you guys have spent too much time with Mugen lol.
Fucking...i cant find where it said it was ken with orochi shit in his system Edit: Found it http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Ken_Masters
"Violent Ken is an alternate version of Ken that appears in SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos. He is the result of Ken absorbing the Orochi power from the King of Fighters series. He was inspired by "Sennou Ken" (Brainwashed Ken in Japanese), which was depicted in Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie, during which M. Bison induced a large amount of Psycho Power to transform Ken into a killing machine"
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on September 29, 2016, 09:46:21 PM
Found it http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Ken_Masters
"Violent Ken is an alternate version of Ken that appears in SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos. He is the result of Ken absorbing the Orochi power from the King of Fighters series. He was inspired by "Sennou Ken" (Brainwashed Ken in Japanese), which was depicted in Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie, during which M. Bison induced a large amount of Psycho Power to transform Ken into a killing machine"
That is as canon to SF as the Fatal Fury Ovas making Terry a god is to the Fatal Fury games.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Duos.act on September 29, 2016, 10:16:53 PM
What I linked is an official profile from Capcom's database, the SF wiki is fan run so it's not nearly as reputable. I guess Violent Ken in SVC is supposed to have Orochi stuff the way Shin Akuma did in CVS2, but it doesn't change the fact that he's still brainwashed by Bison.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 30, 2016, 12:54:50 AM
The same database that changed up ruby hearts bio? To fit the sf setting They make their own takes on characters constantly, kinda weird how brainwashed ken in sfa wasn't a mindless screaming lunatic like violent ken was (and orochi iori\Leona)
But this is an endless debate, one Side my sources were there before sfv, and your source for the.... SNK crossovers take on an evil ken was officially done by capcom
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: AlexSin on September 30, 2016, 04:23:51 PM
There are CvS sprites of Ken, including custom made ones. But no, let's use SF3 sprites against CvS Terry. --; He could have done the same for Sean. No, he had to use SF3 sprites and when they're all running he used CvS sprites pasting the SF3 head on the sprites. Sakura, Blanka and Dan I can excuse since their CvS spritesets are their rescaled SFA ones, but the other three I cannot.
The animation starts at 9:32 and ends at 11:55
I won't mind the puppet animation used at times, but these are other pet peeves of mine:
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- 9:39 Dan should have broken the dojo's window but the animator treated it like a wall; - 9:42 useless win poses, why would Blanka do that to Dan? - 9:59 unnecessary attention to Sean; if your intention was to show that somebody noticed Dan got up, that wasn't the way to show it; but why even do that then? You just needed to show Dan walking there to the group; - 10:11 what the hell is that? - 10:40 the sandbags are stretched horizontally for no reason; - 10:48 ahahah Dan dies... :\ well, I imagine at this point he would have recovered from that blow at the start, so couldn't he run faster? No, Dan must be comic relief... The Howie scream isn't even funny here... maybe it's just me. - 10:52 Terry's death scream when he throws a kick; - 11:07 with that punch Terry wouldn't fly away in that direction; he would fly upwards and since they were breaking the dojo with just shockwaves he could have even broken the roof; - 11:23 Terry's death scream when he throws that ground wave; - 11:28 and 11:33 do Terry's ground waves behave like that? - 11:43 no blood; 11:44 blood. Good job! - 11:48 "okay, since I got bored, I'll just end it in two hits"... what was even the point of showing Ken still alive at 11:45 if he gets murdered two/three seconds later? Ah yes, murdering, blood...
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: aznpikachu215 on September 30, 2016, 04:38:44 PM
since I got bored, I'll just end it in two hits"... what was even the point of showing Ken still alive at 11:45 if he gets murdered two/three seconds later? Ah yes, murdering, blood... [/spoiler]
Would you have been happy if the battle ended in a draw? Like Ken be going "Nice fight, here's your hat."
This fight was...meh. Whoever the sprite animator was, it's almost as if the animator didn't use the full potential of the fighters. It was okay, but it wasn't good either. Where's Terry's Rising Tackle? Power Pave? Power Geyser? Hell, BUSTER WOLF! Ken's tatsumaki, shinryuken. etc So many unused potential moves. This is like watching UFC, only without special moves. Worst part is, they talked about all that and didn't use it, sure, you can say that the animator couldn't find the time to do it but c'mon. Also, if one of the animators did so many "Research" on Superman vs. Goku, why not do this for ALL the fights, and use it to their fullest extent? Whether a new animator or not, if you want to showcase your skills as an animator, especially sprites, which is a lost art right now, you want to put a lot of work into it. Like heck, the Ryu vs. Scorpion by Proxicide from so long ago, that's how sprite fights SHOULD be done. A fight like this makes me feel that this is half-assed. Again, no disrespect to the animator, I'm sure he/she is talented, but somewhere along the time, there is going to be constructive criticism.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: AlexSin on September 30, 2016, 05:02:17 PM
That was exactly what I meant. No, it's not. Why did you delete the post and reposted it again?
It could have been like this. After the strange explosion from the ground wave, dust -> dust goes away -> only one man standing -> it's Terry -> Ken is lying on the ground, dead, covered in blood. What's different? Ken is already dead when the dust goes away. I thought the explosion was the end of the fight, it would have made more sense in my opinion.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: aznpikachu215 on September 30, 2016, 05:40:58 PM
Starting to think flash animation is a lost art now. Heck, I've seen sprite fights on Newgrounds that are like half-assed and feels like its not completed. Same applies to whoever the animator is. If anything, the animator should have used more sprites, or use CVS Ken, I'm sure these two are friendly rivals, Screwattack made it seem like they hate each other.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DelusionTrim on September 30, 2016, 05:48:38 PM
To be fair even when they use custom made sprites it can be kinda screwed up... if I'm not mistaken for the Ryu vs Scorpion match they used SF3 sprites for Ryu, and when he turned to Evil Ryu they used Reu's sprites which are in SFA style... like why do that?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: aznpikachu215 on September 30, 2016, 06:00:12 PM
To be fair even when they use custom made sprites it can be kinda screwed up... if I'm not mistaken for the Ryu vs Scorpion match they used SF3 sprites for Ryu, and when he turned to Evil Ryu they used Reu's sprites which are in SFA style... like why do that?
Yeah, but with Mugen sprites, anything is possible, especially in animating it. Right?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: AlexSin on September 30, 2016, 06:10:40 PM
Maybe you're saying it in an ironic way but, if it's not, using different sprite sets hurts the consistency of the animation. If you have the resources use them correctly.
Going a little off topic now. Maybe they're not Death Battles, but the ones you showed in your YT channel that come from bilibili... those are very good: (0:33)
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 30, 2016, 06:48:27 PM
There are CvS sprites of Ken, including custom made ones. But no, let's use SF3 sprites against CvS Terry. --; He could have done the same for Sean. No, he had to use SF3 sprites and when they're all running he used CvS sprites pasting the SF3 head on the sprites. Sakura, Blanka and Dan I can excuse since their CvS spritesets are their rescaled SFA ones, but the other three I cannot.
The animation starts at 9:32 and ends at 11:55
I won't mind the puppet animation used at times, but these are other pet peeves of mine:
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- 9:39 Dan should have broken the dojo's window but the animator treated it like a wall; - 9:42 useless win poses, why would Blanka do that to Dan? - 9:59 unnecessary attention to Sean; if your intention was to show that somebody noticed Dan got up, that wasn't the way to show it; but why even do that then? You just needed to show Dan walking there to the group; - 10:11 what the hell is that? - 10:40 the sandbags are stretched horizontally for no reason; - 10:48 ahahah Dan dies... :\ well, I imagine at this point he would have recovered from that blow at the start, so couldn't he run faster? No, Dan must be comic relief... The Howie scream isn't even funny here... maybe it's just me. - 10:52 Terry's death scream when he throws a kick; - 11:07 with that punch Terry wouldn't fly away in that direction; he would fly upwards and since they were breaking the dojo with just shockwaves he could have even broken the roof; - 11:23 Terry's death scream when he throws that ground wave; - 11:28 and 11:33 do Terry's ground waves behave like that? - 11:43 no blood; 11:44 blood. Good job! - 11:48 "okay, since I got bored, I'll just end it in two hits"... what was even the point of showing Ken still alive at 11:45 if he gets murdered two/three seconds later? Ah yes, murdering, blood...
I think ben scripts the animation, so scenes like the death and such should be passed onto ben instead of jetz himself Like chad(Boomstick) said in one of their post DB streams that they chose the way a fight should end (bringing up how he originally intended red to hug charizard and cry before being incinerated) I imagine they have a list of things the animator should put in their fights, like ken had to look fucked up to show strong willpower mentioned in the summary etc
Also dan "dying" shouldnt be a reason to hate the animation
Idk much about CVAnimations projects outside of screwattacks stuff since its usually a dorkly style sketch but this was heaps better than his sonya vs cammy As if he took notes from past animators works from animation style, comedic taste and use(the "my leg" thing usually seems like a maple story animator thing), music(sure im not ok with the re use of jungle theme, but its the kind of music torrian would use) Heck even camera angles were improved from his last DB as sonya and cammy sometimes looked like cutouts or portraits etc
It may not be hyper guage level but it sure as hell isnt animation rewind level like its being made out to be
This fight was...meh. Whoever the sprite animator was, it's almost as if the animator didn't use the full potential of the fighters. It was okay, but it wasn't good either. Where's Terry's Rising Tackle? Power Pave? Power Geyser? Hell, BUSTER WOLF! Ken's tatsumaki, shinryuken. etc So many unused potential moves. This is like watching UFC, only without special moves. Worst part is, they talked about all that and didn't use it, sure, you can say that the animator couldn't find the time to do it but c'mon. Also, if one of the animators did so many "Research" on Superman vs. Goku, why not do this for ALL the fights, and use it to their fullest extent? Whether a new animator or not, if you want to showcase your skills as an animator, especially sprites, which is a lost art right now, you want to put a lot of work into it. Like heck, the Ryu vs. Scorpion by Proxicide from so long ago, that's how sprite fights SHOULD be done. A fight like this makes me feel that this is half-assed. Again, no disrespect to the animator, I'm sure he/she is talented, but somewhere along the time, there is going to be constructive criticism.
As you're right with potential. I gotta stop you for the examples, the animations you mentioned were long as hell and had no deadline With Screwattack trying its best to make do from their loss of the hyper guage crew, they have to bust out the animators they DO have
I myself dont know how long they're given in regards of time but, the last two animations of jetz are only 1 episode apart with the tracer scout fight in the middle Its not like they can shift easily between animators like they could when they had hyper guage (mali, zack, chris tyler, aquila, etc plus torrian and co along side giving each animator enough time to finish and touch up their fights) when you put the fact that he and the other db animators have limited with the fact that their level of skill differ, it isnt hard to realize that they're being milked dry
Best example imo of a worn out result is joker vs sweet tooth
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on September 30, 2016, 07:17:51 PM
Improved or not, he still has a long way to go.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 30, 2016, 07:30:11 PM
Without a doubt, but SA generally need more good DB animators Cant milk their current ones to death (updated my previous post )
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on September 30, 2016, 09:21:11 PM
What is it with you defending SA so badly?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: aznpikachu215 on September 30, 2016, 09:28:21 PM
As you're right with potential. I gotta stop you for the examples, the animations you mentioned were long as hell and had no deadline With Screwattack trying its best to make do from their loss of the hyper guage crew, they have to bust out the animators they DO have
I myself dont know how long they're given in regards of time but, the last two animations of jetz are only 1 episode apart with the tracer scout fight in the middle Its not like they can shift easily between animators like they could when they had hyper guage (mali, zack, chris tyler, aquila, etc plus torrian and co along side giving each animator enough time to finish and touch up their fights) when you put the fact that he and the other db animators have limited with the fact that their level of skill differ, it isnt hard to realize that they're being milked dry
Best example imo of a worn out result is joker vs sweet tooth
Wait, they had a team leaving Screwattack? I didn't know that. I just thought they look for animators for that specific time.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: AlexSin on September 30, 2016, 09:36:28 PM
There was a group of animators that worked with them but quit because they were treated badly (ie they weren't getting paid, or not enough). They made their channel (Hyper Gauge) and they're now hosted by Hyun's Dojo.
I think ben scripts the animation, so scenes like the death and such should be passed onto ben instead of jetz himself Like chad(Boomstick) said in one of their post DB streams that they chose the way a fight should end (bringing up how he originally intended red to hug charizard and cry before being incinerated) I imagine they have a list of things the animator should put in their fights, like ken had to look fucked up to show strong willpower mentioned in the summary etc
Also dan "dying" shouldnt be a reason to hate the animation
I get that, but at least make it more cinematic, like them exchanging some final blows, charging their real final attack and falling down with one dead or something. The end looks rushed, that's all I'm saying. Either end it at the explosion part or finish it with another supermove. I realize the fights don't always have to end with a super move, but it's like playing a fighting game and do a match: you do the supermove, the enemy is at 1% of health and you kill him with a light punch. What's the fun? Again, just sharing my point of view here, they're free to do whatever, even do like what I just described.
I don't hate the animation, in itself it's average, not bad but there's room for improvement. And why can't I list Dan dying as something I find negative? It's not like he's always stupid, so he could have run away with the others. He has the sprites to do so.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on September 30, 2016, 10:14:25 PM
Not even close, i just said its not really the animators faults that they're getting rushed as hell If anything my point is against SA
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 01, 2016, 01:22:25 AM
Amy Rose's opponent has been revealed. (https://twitter.com/ScrewAttack/status/781961796600995840)
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Uh...I'll have to re-read the comics, but Ramona Flowers doesn't have many special powers for combat. Jumping into her bag to go to an alternative dimension is neat and story relevant, but doesn't exactly help her here? The love sword thing is outside help, and her hammer wasn't anything special. Unelss we're taking breaking down brick walls in the game that everyone can do with any item, even glass bottles, as a feat of strength?
Even then, Amy seems to way outclass her from what I remember on Ramona. Shame that a Scott Pilgrim character's first appearance into Death Battle is so stacked against them. Would be interested in being proven wrong, though. Wanna know how Ramona will deal with just Amy's near Sonic speed levels.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Kirishima on October 01, 2016, 01:29:46 AM
Jmorphman help us out here it's been years since I read any of this.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 01, 2016, 01:41:08 AM
Here's looking forward to them at least getting the best game soundtrack there is to use for this next fight.
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Anamanaguchi or riot.
Well, I mean there'll be riots regardless, it's Death Battle, but please use the SPvTW game soundtrack, not the movie's.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Neo_Fire_Sonic on October 01, 2016, 02:05:30 AM
are they actually going to use sonic boom amy instead of fan-girl amy?
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Post by: Long John Killer on October 01, 2016, 02:07:49 AM
It's just a picture for the poster, it'll be a fusion of all interpretations of Amy, as with Knuckles when they showed his Sonic Boom characteristics. Case in point, I think they will likely throw in the likes of Hyper Mode from Sonic the Fighters, before she turned modern.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 01, 2016, 01:13:33 PM
are they actually going to use sonic boom amy instead of fan-girl amy?
well every fucking sonic character is put through a stipulation in death battles Sonic - power ups, super sonic and games Tails - side games, comic, no power ups or super eggman- cartoon and games shadow- just chaos power and super shadow knuckles- just sonic boom and sonic x....no power ups or hyper knuckles
if ben likes amy they'll give her more feats, if not, she aint winning.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on October 01, 2016, 04:15:33 PM
Bruiser Battle
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Infinite kyo on October 01, 2016, 04:38:00 PM
well that was badass not gonna lie i was fine with either winning i dont like Broly that much still a great fight
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: The Boss on October 02, 2016, 01:13:15 AM
There is no Orochi Ken. There is no Evil Ken. I think you guys have spent too much time with Mugen lol.
Fucking...i cant find where it said it was ken with orochi shit in his system Edit: Found it http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Ken_Masters
"Violent Ken is an alternate version of Ken that appears in SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos. He is the result of Ken absorbing the Orochi power from the King of Fighters series. He was inspired by "Sennou Ken" (Brainwashed Ken in Japanese), which was depicted in Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie, during which M. Bison induced a large amount of Psycho Power to transform Ken into a killing machine"
Ooops,I forgot Zangief also survived a DB
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on October 05, 2016, 03:11:26 PM
Amy Rose Stalks Into DEATH BATTLE!
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 05, 2016, 11:34:08 PM
So I've been reading Scott Pilgrim again, and while Ramona is, like, 10 times a better character than Amy, her feats don't help her much. The best I'm getting is that she can chance a magic door to appear just when its needed to go wherever she wants and one time at an art museum, she effortlessly pulled out a metal hand rail from a wall to deflect Knives'...knives, which puts her in superhuman strength levels. But this was in comedic fashion, as is many of Scott Pilgrim's battles. Where things take a more realistic tone in day by day activities, the next page a vegan uppercuts Scott into space and he land back down in a few seconds more dazed and annoyed he missed.
I mean, if we take that stuff into account and pass it on to everyone, as the game implies, then yeah, I guess she's durable to get thrown through an entire school, brick walls and all, but also weak enough to be stabbed by sharp objects. And no outside help bans her from the whole sword of love thing she got with Scott's help at the end of the series, unless they just give it to her anyways because she's already achieved it, but the speed disadvantage really plays against anything she can do. Maybe an intelligence boost in that Amy is, what, 14? And kind of a lovestruck idiot? But I still don't see Ramona winning. Which sucks.
Ramona may know of Amy though, as the series is fully aware of actual video games, Scott himself apparently being addicted to Sonic 3. And stuff like cheat codes and save points work in their reality as well, but also for comedic effect rather than integral to fights, so I dunno, can she just, like, turn on God Mode or something?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 06, 2016, 02:52:31 PM
scott pilgrim and his friends were the gamers, i don't think ramona was one of them
Amy's character was upgraded hugely in the sonic boom series but again.....all sonic characters are put through some random pick and mix of info in death battle
is she able to triple jump and shit like she did in sonic boom? can she fight like she could in advance/heroes and sonic fighters or are they only giving her just the speed and hammer? is ANYTHING related to archie gonna be brought up? they deliberately pick out info they want to use instead of all of it
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 07, 2016, 03:17:31 AM
She wasn't with them, no, but she's fairly nerdy. Everyone is, it's a nerdy series about adult life, Nintendo and casual sex. Heck, she has a hammer of smiting girls +2.
I can't imagine any significant way triple jumping would help, given the acrobatics people pull off in Scott Pilgrim, but I'd also imagine they're giving her that training in kickboxing she got but avoid the Archie comics.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on October 09, 2016, 03:06:01 PM
This was going to happen sooner or later.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 09, 2016, 03:08:42 PM
Same level as saitama vs kenshiro
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Infinite kyo on October 09, 2016, 03:17:03 PM
im shocked they let an anime character win...that being said i was rooting for Spidey lol
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: 地獄の花 on October 09, 2016, 03:54:59 PM
0:45 wtf is that? is she suppose to be running, jogging or briskly walking?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 10, 2016, 02:10:24 AM
Don't question bad animation I'm surprised SA let alone torrian was ok with this
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on October 12, 2016, 05:49:00 PM
Info dump
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 12, 2016, 08:53:33 PM
eye opener as it is, they're gonna kill off amy unless they give her comic info as well
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 13, 2016, 12:07:11 AM
Yeah, see, none of that's going to help Ramona if they're touting that Amy moves at 700 MPH. They didn't get to the point to factor in she gets impaled and shrugs it off, pulling people into Subspace and do whatever she wants as long as they're in her head or that the Sword of Love has healing powers, but if you can't even touch the opponent, it's all useless. Maybe they'll give Amy the downgrade in intelligence her earlier appearances provided, but I've heard she's as smart as Tails in that Sonic Boom show nor a psycho stalker, apparently.
I still 100% want Ramona to win though. Reading through everything again just for this episode, though, I'm a tad bit bias.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 14, 2016, 06:14:51 AM
In the boom cartoon ,sonic likes her and not the other way around so shes the smart n responsible one while tails is smart in the stereotypically nerdy way Watch SA leave that out as well
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: DatKofGuy on October 15, 2016, 04:12:18 PM
Hmmmm.. are they going for an over-arcing story here?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 16, 2016, 08:55:22 PM
The silhouettes in the credits are ken and Paul That's the next match I guess
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on October 19, 2016, 03:10:41 PM
New DB's out.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 19, 2016, 03:33:42 PM
eye opener as it is, they're gonna kill off amy unless they give her comic info as well
THEY USED ALL SOURCES OF INFO. archie, boom, cartoons AND GAMES it was blatant she would win if that was the case
Neat animation(dude who did ryu vs lucario) noice use of colours.....though there were better choices of songs
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on October 19, 2016, 08:46:29 PM
Oh hey, a good animation from SA. I almost forgot what that felt like. Great all around and I agree with the outcome.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 19, 2016, 11:27:50 PM
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Yeah, screw that, Ramona should win. Yes, I'm angry. Where's the Sword of Love? Amy being a dunce? The fact that Ramona can do anything inside her head, and the purse can only be destroyed outside in the real world, not her head? Another notch on the disappointing Death Battles. The way they animated felt off too, but I can't place why.
And oh yeah, Hulk is next, whatever, kill him with ease Broly. Or not since this is Screw Attack. Then go Doomsday, though I don't care for him. Man, this fight is bugging me to hell now.
So yeah, it was as I predicted, and I'm annoyed it turned out exactly like that. Good first impression to Scott Pilgrim, Screw Attack.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on October 20, 2016, 01:15:05 AM
What a curious choice to use as music for the fight. I mean, they could've used music from either side, but instead they went with Touhou :s
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Dreams In Stardust on October 20, 2016, 04:09:58 AM
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Yeah, Amy isn't the brightest crayon in the box, but she's not completely braindead either. :S Taking down a ship by throwing hammers at it is pretty darn impressive, and she does hold her own pretty decently, so it's not totally out of the question? And moving about 700 MPH while hitting someone can do some nasty damage.
The bag being destroyed in her mind-tunnel thing is a bit confusing though, but I haven't re-read Scott Pilgrim in a long while, so I 'unno.
The fight itself did seem more slowly paced; always seemed like it took longer than usual for characters to act, especially considering they're both quick and nimble.
At least it wasn't anything like the Ken and Terry fight, IMO.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: The Boss on October 22, 2016, 01:05:09 AM
I looked at the comments at their video,It seems any people is happy after they announced Hulk is coming to fight a Death Battle
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Seadragon77 on October 22, 2016, 01:24:39 AM
True... A lot of people are hoping for a Hulk vs. Doomsday battle (same here, BTW). There were also mentions of Hulk vs. Broly but OMM already did that and, if you ask me, Broly could easily outclass The Hulk in pure strength alone.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 22, 2016, 02:12:56 AM
Broly's...weird. Besides being non-canon in his entirety, his powers are ill-defined in the movies he's present in, and there's a lot of presumptions abound for him. What gets classified as canon and not for a completely non-canon character is a hard process to go through. For example, he's apparently mostly physically immune to, well, anything. Kamehameha that can destroy solar-system level Cell is completely ineffective. But due to his scar in his pecs at a young age, hitting precisely there would completely undo him. Hulk's hand is considerably bigger than that tiny spot Goku managed to hit, so can Hulk even exploit that with, like, vibrations from his hits at such a gargantuan level when his strength just keeps growing? And there's the whole getting killed by a simple star, which Goku's Kamehameha should far outclass in damage done by the sun. Was it the sun that opened up his wound, or that Family Kamehameha attack? Neither really makes sense, it was just a nice way to end the fight.
Then there's the whole preference as to what the hell Ki is anyways. It seems like hard light almost, but it gives off heat as with young Gohan using it to cook food and the heat waves given off from Goku and Vegeta's first fight. And how Broly can apparently survive in space when Dragon Ball has been annoyingly back and forth with how yes, Saiyans can to no, Saiyans can't. I guess you can rule it out due to Legendary status just giving him immunity...somehow.
I mean, I'd enjoy it if Broly beat Hulk, but he's such a mess of a character it'd be hard to defend either position. Also, it's Dragon Ball Z, and this is Screw Attack, so...he gonna die. I'd put my money on Doomsday being the other contestant.
Actually, something on Broly that I'm curious now on the Hulk, Broly runs on DBZ Ki logic, thus the higher it goes, the higher ALL their stats go besides intelligence. Besides some minor differences in the Ginyu force, higher power level = stronger, faster and more durable. For Hulk, the angrier he gets we all know the stronger he gets, but does he actually get more durable to match hits from something else growing in power? I don't believe he gets faster, so he's of course level at fairly low speeds but he has to so he can survive planet busting. Does he ever hit a cap in survivability? Regen powers hit their end, a punch finally gets too strong for him to withstand, something like that?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 22, 2016, 03:44:14 PM
his scar has never been the case of him dying in the two games, his first death was a concentrated blow to the gut from goku (who had to take vegetas, trunks, picollos and gohans energy and power to do so) his second death came from a family kamehameha by goku, gohan and goten.
Bio broly is a clone so he doesn't count
Saiyans can survive in space, the bardock vs frieza scene took place there and so did goku vs beerus.
Since it is non canon, its not really clear when they fought broly being before cell or after... Broly could kill hulk though, unless hulk survived planet busting attacks
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Lichtbringer on October 22, 2016, 04:54:45 PM
If the next one is a Hulk vs Doomsday battle, the outcome would probably depend on how much motivated the Hulk is, if it's just a Doomsday attacks Hulk and thats it, than the chances are almost 50/50, but if something happends like Doomsday hurts or kills one of Hulks friends, then Hulk would obliterate Doomsday because of a rage boost I guess.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 23, 2016, 05:44:40 AM
The scar on his chest is where Goku punched him, where otherwise he's immune to harm, hence why I say it's the cause of his first loss as well as his second leading to his death, as his green guts somehow start exploding out of it in the sun. The borrowed power was just necessary to even harm him at all, what with Goku's power dwindling.
And the whole Saiyans surviving space has evidence of them surviving just in plain old space like Bardock matching Frieza, yeah, but also them dying as with Blue Vegeta surviving Frieza blowing up Earth but not lasting without oxygen in Resurrection F. Sure wasn't near empty on power Frieza overpowering him with that blast or just the planet exploding. It's up to the situation at hand as to if they get to fly around in space or not. I don't recall where the theory came from, but I was always partial to the idea that they just create oxygen with their ki similar to Green Lantern, since ki does anything else they want. It's pretty much the Force really.
Timeline-wise Broly took place in the wait after Cell became complete and announced his Cell Games but they had not started yet. Biggest hole in why it had to be non-canon was just that everyone was relaxing at the time, instead of just Goku and Gohan learning to master the default Super Saiyan form by chilling out, if I recall correctly. So being Cell could be obliterated by a full power Super Saiyan and Broly could not, lets presume he's around SSJ2-ish levels in power when just entering the Legendary state, yeah? Would match to his credentials of destroying part of the galaxy for fun. It seems to me he way outclasses Hulk for way too long before Hulk gets a chance to gain an even footing in power, even if Broly toys with him.
I never cared for Doomsday exceedingly, so fill me in where I'm wrong. So the concept behind him that I get is that while he suffers many "deaths", it's in the way of Wolverine in that he can heal back from anything that seems to put him down, but more broken in special abilities is that he gains an immunity to that form of death. When punched to death, he becomes immune to physical forces. When heat blasted, he no longer is affected by heat sources. Maybe Hulk can accidentally twist that to his advantage by super clapping him to death, causing Doomsday to go deaf but beyond that Hulk's means of destruction are fairly limited, just ridiculous in scope of power behind them. So splat Doomsday a few times, he becomes immune to anything Hulk can do then it no longer matters how strong Hulk gets when Doomsday becomes an immovable object. How then Doomsday would kill him though I dunno, does his strength grow too?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 23, 2016, 01:20:08 PM
The scar on his chest is where Goku punched him, where otherwise he's immune to harm, hence why I say it's the cause of his first loss as well as his second leading to his death, as his green guts somehow start exploding out of it in the sun. The borrowed power was just necessary to even harm him at all, what with Goku's power dwindling.
And the whole Saiyans surviving space has evidence of them surviving just in plain old space like Bardock matching Frieza, yeah, but also them dying as with Blue Vegeta surviving Frieza blowing up Earth but not lasting without oxygen in Resurrection F. Sure wasn't near empty on power Frieza overpowering him with that blast or just the planet exploding. It's up to the situation at hand as to if they get to fly around in space or not. I don't recall where the theory came from, but I was always partial to the idea that they just create oxygen with their ki similar to Green Lantern, since ki does anything else they want. It's pretty much the Force really.
Timeline-wise Broly took place in the wait after Cell became complete and announced his Cell Games but they had not started yet. Biggest hole in why it had to be non-canon was just that everyone was relaxing at the time, instead of just Goku and Gohan learning to master the default Super Saiyan form by chilling out, if I recall correctly. So being Cell could be obliterated by a full power Super Saiyan and Broly could not, lets presume he's around SSJ2-ish levels in power when just entering the Legendary state, yeah? Would match to his credentials of destroying part of the galaxy for fun. It seems to me he way outclasses Hulk for way too long before Hulk gets a chance to gain an even footing in power, even if Broly toys with him.
although doomsday was confirmed, a lot of the broly talk had me rewatch the movie, he never had a visible scar. goku literally punched a hole in him then blew him up by sending a blast at the same point. so it'd take enough raw power in one concentrated point to take him out.
though i tend to scale villains based on how many people it took to beat them, broly is insanely strong in the sense that, if he were to 1 v 1 SSJ2 goku he'd be around equal terms or ever so slightly have the upper advantage.
that aside
this dude busted his ass on a new sprite fight
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 23, 2016, 05:37:42 PM
The scar was, like, in his pecs. Why bother showing the importance of it before in the movie if they wouldn't capitalize on it later? That was his weak point. I haven't rewatched the movie, but didn't they flashback when Goku hit there to even show that's where he was stabbed with a knife as a baby?
Anyways, new DBX.
Not two I care for, but hell of a lot better animation this time, if completely shown up by that previous one you just posted.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 23, 2016, 07:27:37 PM
as you can see, no scar
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 24, 2016, 12:22:48 AM
Hm, I thought they flashbacked to the whole stabbing him bit when Goku punched there. I still stand by that's why hitting there worked at all, but whatever. Yes, the thing's not visible, I guess that does kinda defeat the point of a scar, but otherwise it's just illogical why Goku won, Gohan at a higher level than shown here couldn't do much of anything later on. And yes, logic over something this dumb, yadda yadda.
Anyways, since the confirmation wasn't actually linked before, yeah Hulk's fighting Doomsday (https://www.instagram.com/p/BL4Su_xAtsr/).
So I guess all this Broly talk's pointless anyways. Ah well.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on October 24, 2016, 12:39:09 AM
glad its finally happening , its one of the most requested DB
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 24, 2016, 01:26:16 PM
it was spammed up the ass along with sackboy vs maxwell and maka vs ruby, by a couple kids
these vocal minority made sure that they'd post their "suggestion" in every screwattack video ever
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Lichtbringer on October 24, 2016, 05:57:22 PM
I never cared for Doomsday exceedingly, so fill me in where I'm wrong. So the concept behind him that I get is that while he suffers many "deaths", it's in the way of Wolverine in that he can heal back from anything that seems to put him down, but more broken in special abilities is that he gains an immunity to that form of death. When punched to death, he becomes immune to physical forces. When heat blasted, he no longer is affected by heat sources. Maybe Hulk can accidentally twist that to his advantage by super clapping him to death, causing Doomsday to go deaf but beyond that Hulk's means of destruction are fairly limited, just ridiculous in scope of power behind them. So splat Doomsday a few times, he becomes immune to anything Hulk can do then it no longer matters how strong Hulk gets when Doomsday becomes an immovable object. How then Doomsday would kill him though I dunno, does his strength grow too?
Yes Doomsday's strengh grows after he is resurected too, but he can also be killed to a point where he can't be resurected without outside help.
Imperiex did this once, he blasted him so hard that afaik nothing of him was left except his Skeleton, and Doomsday was not able to regenerate from that, Lex Luther had to resurrect him in a laboratory with Kryptonian cells after this death.
The thing with Hulk is that he can become Superman Prime levels of strong if not Stronger under specific circumstances, where he does ridiculous things like breaking space-time continuum with physical force and things like that if my sources are right.^^
So if they use Hulk at his maximun, then he could hit Doomsday probably with enough raw force that his Atoms explode or something like that, and not enough from him his left to regenerade.
On the other hand Doomsday just have to kill Hulk before he is at his maximum, soo who ever wins some fans will be Angry. xD
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 24, 2016, 07:54:06 PM
How long was the process for Hulk to get that strong? I may be mixing different versions of Superman, having not read them in some time but as I recall, Superman Prime took a few centuries, 700 years or something like that, curled up in a sun for him to hit his maximum. If we're talking anything longer than 5 minutes, Hulk's dead.
Not that I don't know it's not good for my health and sanity to question comic book logic, but...how can he recover from anything, but not a skeleton? And this Imperiex, did he kill Doomsday with a method he died to before? That's the key factor here, as so it stands he's still immune to anything he died to before, that ability can't be surpassed. If he did, then Hulk may take the win.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: The Boss on October 24, 2016, 11:37:22 PM
This DBX was awesome,I like how Jotaro blew him with so many punches in stopped time
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Post by: Lichtbringer on October 25, 2016, 12:05:26 AM
How long was the process for Hulk to get that strong? I may be mixing different versions of Superman, having not read them in some time but as I recall, Superman Prime took a few centuries, 700 years or something like that, curled up in a sun for him to hit his maximum. If we're talking anything longer than 5 minutes, Hulk's dead.
Not that I don't know it's not good for my health and sanity to question comic book logic, but...how can he recover from anything, but not a skeleton? And this Imperiex, did he kill Doomsday with a method he died to before? That's the key factor here, as so it stands he's still immune to anything he died to before, that ability can't be surpassed. If he did, then Hulk may take the win.
To be fair I don't now what triggerd Hulk to become that strong, and Imperiex used some kind of energie blast, I don't know if it was ever stated what kind of energy he is using, but that means that Doomsday can only adapt to that specific kind of energy that killed him and not any kind of energy at once, since he was killed by green latern energy, and could not be killed with that again.
I think you mean the Golden Superman, I mean the Superboy from the Prime earth that became Evil Superman in the Chrisis etc.
And I havend read a comic in ages, maybe I'm mixing stuff up too. =/
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Negi Springfield on October 25, 2016, 03:26:23 PM
Oh hey, Batinthesun waited way too damn long for an alternate ending video.
As far as that DBX match is concerned, Yu Narukami can kill Gods. Can Jotaro?
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 25, 2016, 03:54:17 PM
He was at his strongest in part 3, and since then had to ge nerfed to make the others look better. Time freezing and slight was a bit op when you think about it
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Post by: Erroratu on October 25, 2016, 04:28:18 PM
As far as that DBX match is concerned, Yu Narukami can kill Gods. Can Jotaro?
Yu is weak as fuck tho,canonically among the weaker protagonists of Persona Plus he can't use his powers outside the tv anyway,so if research was actually done,he'd be running away for most of the fight
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Post by: Negi Springfield on October 25, 2016, 05:33:04 PM
As far as that DBX match is concerned, Yu Narukami can kill Gods. Can Jotaro?
Yu is weak as fuck tho,canonically among the weaker protagonists of Persona Plus he can't use his powers outside the tv anyway,so if research was actually done,he'd be running away for most of the fight
I'm gonna need some sources on that.
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Yu Narukami is the only known Protagonist to be directly awakened to his potential via an active deity and is 1/3rd of humanity's combined potential in a shell. In Persona 4 he solos a god of Undeath after all of his allies get OHKO'd. Proceeds to tank said OHKO attack multiple times before summoning a godly Persona of his own and killing god of Undeath. Then in Ultimax He together with a 2nd third of humanity's potential was able to seal the Ultimate evil of Ultimate reality (Nyarlathotep, or Hitler in Persona 2) albeit , they couldn't kill it. If anything the P3 protagonist is the weakest since he needed a crutch to summon his Persona and the final threat of P3 is the only threat not to be killed. It had to be sealed with the MC's lifeforce.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 25, 2016, 06:06:48 PM
He was at his strongest in part 3, and since then had to ge nerfed to make the others look better. Time freezing and slight was a bit op when you think about it
He got nerfed OVER Part 3
We're supposed to consider the prison cell and the D'arby duel the original clues to Star Platinum's true ability, but all the stuff Jotaro has in his cell at the beginning could not possibly have been within the given range of his stand
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on October 26, 2016, 03:32:55 PM
skip to 0:25 for Hulk
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 26, 2016, 05:29:03 PM
tbh, im not really hyped for this as i dont really like either character
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 29, 2016, 05:11:55 PM
The silhouettes in the credits are ken and Paul That's the next match I guess
eyup
Clever how they got paul and ken moving and fighting in their respective game style( kens dashing and parrying, pauls running and juggling)
ok, next match up is Joseph joestar young vs edward elric i know fuck all about FMA
whats edward got against a tommy gun, a barrage of grenades, extremely good battle strategy(with plan Bs) and the power of hamon?
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Post by: Dreams In Stardust on October 29, 2016, 06:11:32 PM
Edward's prowess with alchemy can have him manipulate pretty much any object at any given time; creating weapons, obstacles and whatnot just out of the environment, as well as making blades on his artificial arm. He's also really competent in hand-to-hand combat, being trained at a young age. He's also pretty intelligent, and carries a good amount of focus in his combat situations.
It'll be interesting to see what they'll come up with on this fight, really. :D
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Post by: Long John Killer on October 30, 2016, 06:03:00 AM
I'm more adept with Edward knowledge than Joseph, mainly because I know jack about him. So of those examples, guns are fairly useless. Not in that they can't hurt or kill Edward, just there'll never be a chance, Ed's got easy cover anywhere there's tangible solid ground, and he's a quick little bugger. Same for grenades, heck, Edward can even just make cannons the size of houses shooting whatever's around condensed into a cannon shots, so he's got the bigger explosives. Strategy, Ed's both laid down some complex convoluted plans pretending to lose his temper when called short when it was all just a ruse....as well as just lost his temper over being called short and abandoned a great plan. So eh, either way. Joseph probably has the strength advantage just by being older and bigger, but Edward specializes specifically in fighting people bigger and tougher than him, he spars with his suit of armor of a brother in martial arts.
Judging solely from Joseph's wiki page I just brought up, it sounds like Edward's more than capable of handling him, especially as Joseph specializes in stage magic and Edward makes it a habit to show up the folly of magic and misdirection and easily sees through such things. But as I understand it, Jojo has some sort of rule where it's impossible to detect Stands unless you own one yourself, no magic or science can track them. But then again, this is OMM, so who cares.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Foobs on October 30, 2016, 06:42:17 AM
Joseph attacks can go through solid walls and steel. His fighting stye relies on turning insignificant objects like Coca Cola caps or soap bubbles into weapons, and turn weapons like crossbows into lethal weapons that can take down literal giants, so he isn't any less resourceful than Edward. Same style also demands an insane physical condition to master it, so he must be both stronger and more nimble than Edward. Oh, and it can also expel regular poisons and heal his injuries to a degree.
That silhouette matches the younger Joseph from Battle Tendency. He didn't discover hermit purple until late in his life, so he can't use his stand at that stage (but then again it's OMM so fuck research).
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 30, 2016, 01:04:09 PM
my comment didn't post, but yeah. what he said
fighting a suit of armour isn't a good comparison since..... joseph fought the pillarmen....
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on October 30, 2016, 07:18:38 PM
So what, Pokémon's Bubblebeam, they're so compressed with air they explode violently when popped or something?
I'm sure they have reason to see it a fair fight between the two. Just seems Edward has more going for me. I mean, yeah, punching giants might beat out taking on a suit of armor given life, but then Edward punched out God. Sorta. Either way, being OMM it don't matter much, just if there were research put into it I'd imagine Ed's got the advantage, especially if Joseph apparently doesn't get his stand. But wouldn't be surprised if Ed lost, Jojo supposedly goes through some crazy stuff. Be like Kenshin's match, having one-off appearances from other slightly less popular anime characters lose when they show, matching them up to someone similar in another series who's not nearly as important but stronger in their universe.
Not exactly Cell versus that Hunter x Hunter guy who died from a bomb power difference here.
Anyways, so that happened.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on October 30, 2016, 08:37:37 PM
animation rewind did theirs, now DBX and Hyperguage are spriting theirs
thats 3 trump vs clinton sprites fights
also @long john killer....... him beating god...... is a good feat.....but kars.... its hard to explain everything joseph can do and his wins just watch jojo pls
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Dreams In Stardust on November 01, 2016, 11:54:41 PM
Well, with the Pillar Men, it was less about absolute direct confrontations 100% of the time, and more about Joseph trying to dick around with them all and finding the best way to deal with them without getting himself killed. Heck, half of the stuff in the final confrontation was situational dumb luck. :P
I won't discredit Joseph's physical prowess, he's pretty strong! But his fights with the Pillar Men were more displays of his intelligence and cunning than actual strength. If we were taking actual research into account, rather than it just being a flashy animation with cool stuff going on, then I'd say that if it wasn't gonna be a tie, then I could see Edward coming out due to the sheer potential he has of being able to use pretty much anything around him for offensive/defensive purposes.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Foobs on November 02, 2016, 12:42:51 AM
So what, Pokémon's Bubblebeam, they're so compressed with air they explode violently when popped or something?
No, they're regular bubbles that just happen to be imbued with energy. Hamon practitioners can do that with pretty much everything: wine, scarves, roses, clackers and even spaghetti and penne.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: supa2520 on November 02, 2016, 01:20:30 AM
No, they're regular bubbles that just happen to be imbued with energy. Hamon practitioners can do that with pretty much everything: wine, scarves, roses, clackers and even spaghetti and penne.
Doesn't sound too far off from Scar's physical deconstruction of matter, runs alchemical energy through anything he touches, but instead lets it deteriorate into its base elements rather than explode. Hm, but Ed never did beat Scar, did he? I'd have to re-read the series to be sure. He of course had his initial encounter when Scar was killing every bloody person with some relation to a state alchemist where Ed lost, but I don't remember if they fought again after that. Scar kept fairly to himself after reuniting with his people.
Anyways, yeah, Doomsday, sad story, woo. If they're going for a single death counts, which I doubt because why even bother with Doomsday, who's ability is based on dying and returning, but if they do then yeah, Hulk. Otherwise until more information they choose to use that they bring up after the fight is shown, and no example of increasing strength surpasses Doomsday's immunities gained from death, then Doomsday is forced to win when Hulk runs out of means to attempt to kill him permanently. See how that turns out in a week, then. Maybe that story where Hulk apparently punched a universe into being or whatever that the chat likes to bring up means Hulk is a magic reality warper who manifests his powers through punching or something stupid like that and he can ignore Doomsday's ability.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Zemilia on November 09, 2016, 03:11:55 PM
You know the drill.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on November 09, 2016, 03:41:24 PM
MY GOD IT FELT LIKE I WAS PLAYING MADWORLD, THAT DEATH WAS AMAZING
oh.... no one posted the recent hyper guage video....
as for next time.... i already dont care
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Dumanios on November 09, 2016, 03:47:02 PM
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Probably should've seen Doomsday's win coming, tbh.
Also, Zolo confirmed for next fight.
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 09, 2016, 03:55:14 PM
its actually good. except for that weird pumping thing hulk and doomsday do.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on November 09, 2016, 07:22:30 PM
Aw, I don't care about the next guy either. Drat. Well, at least they got the right winner here and it was a good fight...if through odd means of explaining how the brain processes anger to explain the win. Also all those poor gummi bear people Doomsday killed at the beginning.
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So, Zolo. So much for not touching One Piece until it was over. I guess they picked someone they know he can't lose to at this point. Dunno who though, would have guessed someone from Bleach but he can't see them.
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Post by: BurningSoul on November 09, 2016, 07:59:35 PM
Wow,this result was good,but Banner successfully treated his condition with radiation and was able to maintain enough of his own personality when he became the Hulk to control himself in that form for a short period of time.
It's sad that they used MVC3 model of Hulk,it looked pretty bad.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: D.R.B on November 09, 2016, 10:57:52 PM
regardless of the result, this was the best death battle i've seen so far,honestly I think they should have saved it to be the final epo of this season of DB
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Post by: Zemilia on November 12, 2016, 09:59:57 AM
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Post by: DatKofGuy on November 12, 2016, 10:25:20 AM
I would've paired him up against Date Masamune. Both use multiple swords.. both have a temper and they share the same seiyuu.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on November 12, 2016, 01:31:18 PM
First had to look up who even was the other opponent, and after doing so I get the initial feeling I'm not going to like the character at all. But then I don't like Zolo either so yeah.
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But for fairness's sake, it seems she's woefully underpowered in physical strength or defense, her apparent ultimate defense losing to a laser beam, but her actual strength lies in being able to change battle tactics on the fly with different weaponry, telekinisis and the ability to summon 200 swords out the air to do her bidding.
Biggest thing I'm giving her is she apparently has a skill especially devised to disarm opponent sword users and add those swords to hers. If they can reason with fake math how Zolo can resist that, or if he's just tough enough now to go on without swords, then that's a trick that puts the whole match in her favor.
Otherwise...her armor, despite having 100 varients or so, kinda suck and the swords themselves aren't unbreakable or anything, I'd give it to Zolo just taking bleeding out until he cuts her down. Guy has enough blood to bleed out for 10 men and still doesn't care about wounds.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on November 12, 2016, 05:47:26 PM
Dunno what your sources were... but its not very accurate.
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Post by: Foobs on November 12, 2016, 07:06:19 PM
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goddamit people
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on November 12, 2016, 09:33:25 PM
ok im skipping that death battle i hate both one piece and fairy tail
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before you say anything long john killer.....watch jojo
as for next time
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batman vs ironman sounds good on paper.....but like.... if ironman uses all of his suits to fight....what can batman do against flying laser people?
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Post by: Duos.act on November 12, 2016, 09:50:12 PM
So I guess what I learned from this thread is that everyone hates every manga series unless it's DBZ or Jojo. That's about what I expected.
batman vs ironman sounds good on paper.....but like.... if ironman uses all of his suits to fight....what can batman do against flying laser people?
well,I think they will make fight fair because its no research? right? If it was researched Batman would lose in any circumstances unless he used his Godly Armor,the armor he used to beat Darkseid
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on November 12, 2016, 10:02:44 PM
So I guess what I learned from this thread is that everyone hates every manga series unless it's DBZ or Jojo. That's about what I expected. It's OMM, no research. They could have Batman doing DBZ attacks for all they want. It's not meant to be an accurate simulation.
SAO, one piece and fairy tale are the only series i give no shits for everything else is alright, heck even naruto is aight in my books
You could have had a researchless sprite fight with made up moves.....but i dont think they'd repeat the dante vs ragna omm
also just remembered this is batmans second OMM
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Post by: Long John Killer on November 13, 2016, 12:10:17 AM
So I guess what I learned from this thread is that everyone hates every manga series unless it's DBZ or Jojo. That's about what I expected.
More most things post-2000, as I find it. Most things that've caught my interest either didn't quite live up to my hopes but were passable or else continuations of things I already like but with some annoying changes (Blue Super Saiyans now? Really?). Also scratch off Jojo, that series just looks...bad. Evidently some enjoy it, though, but I'll pass. Perhaps it's unfair to ask for the new Bebop, GitS or Akira, but maybe I'm just spoiled in that way.
And I know it's commonly Zoro, I just remember Zolo from Shonen Jump better for some reason. I'll shut up with the Zolo if it's annoying though.
Anyways, eh to the new OMM. Don't agree but whatever, was animated nicely. Batman vs Iron Man next, I'd normally say Iron Man easily but his DB victory still bugs me so haves Bats destroy him with his hellsuit or something.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on November 13, 2016, 04:27:42 PM
...would you look at that... a good DBX after another good dbx
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the way he won was bs though, 1v1 like a man.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on November 16, 2016, 03:27:29 PM
Original character
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Post by: Long John Killer on November 16, 2016, 11:27:05 PM
Huh. I thought that girl he grew up with was the broke antique sword admirer who worked for Smoker, alive and kicking. And Mihawk apparently went from being a hawk-person to Dracula. I don't know One Piece any more, it seems.
Well, if I remember right, Mihawk both had strength to cut down a castle sized giant in one blow and bat back cannonballs with his sword. Presuming Zoro does the same by now? Erza's wiki page still doesn't leave me with much confidence on her winning beyond that one disarming skill, so I'm sticking with moss head.
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Post by: Foobs on November 16, 2016, 11:55:18 PM
After two decades of powercreep even Tashigi (Kuina's lookalike) can split cannonballs, and she's still well below Zoro's level. He can cut mountains now.
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Post by: Long John Killer on November 17, 2016, 12:21:05 AM
...A lookalike? Really? They bothered having this whole ridiculous backstory of the girl dying by accident, to then show up again, and it's just a similar faced nobody? Augh, this series hurts my head sometimes.
So yeah, that's stupid levels of strength for a regular guy. Speed isn't brought up much on him, but he can dodge bullets. Well, musket shots, but then these are fantasy muskets so that helps, I guess? Not too bright, but not exactly a simpleton and a really adapt fighter. Plus that supernatural level of endurance. I'd go with him diving headfirst into a few swords, get a few lacerations here and there to score the kill. Just recreate Nightmare vs Guts.
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Post by: Foobs on November 17, 2016, 12:41:59 AM
...A lookalike? Really? They bothered having this whole ridiculous backstory of the girl dying by accident, to then show up again, and it's just a similar faced nobody? Augh, this series hurts my head sometimes.
It's some *wink* *wink* shit that Oda brings up every now and never, without any meaningful development. (http://i.imgur.com/OejU2F2.jpg)
The middle panels are a flashback from her first appearance around chapter 100. This page is from chapter 867687. Tashigi's only appearance in between the two doesn't make the reader any wiser about why she looks like Kuina, either.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on November 18, 2016, 07:05:00 PM
this might be the first DB i'm actually gonna skip here's hoping they waste CVanimation on this fight
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Post by: DatKofGuy on November 22, 2016, 02:58:11 PM
How Ace vs Natsu shouldve gone
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Post by: D.R.B on November 24, 2016, 12:13:23 AM
Erza Scarlet
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Post by: Seadragon77 on November 24, 2016, 03:01:12 AM
So, we have a man that can use three swords against a fighter that can, in theory, use any weapon out there.
I'm going out on a limb and going with Ezra here. Being adept with more weapons give you more options.
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Post by: Long John Killer on November 24, 2016, 03:19:45 AM
I dunno if there's any historical accuracy behind the thought process of its design or just anime going for cool points, but that plate mail top and mini-skirt bottom is really stupid. Anyways, not much from that character profile of any real importance, unfortunately.
Eh, I say it's more quality over quantity for this. If the guy cuts apart mountains, apparently, and she's not quite so over the top, I'd give him the advantage here. Essentially just another army of mooks he cuts down in typical comedic fashion catching up to Luffy, compressed into one person. Still unsure over her disarm skill coming into play though. Would be funny if it came down to it specifies disarming opponents hands, and he wins because of his goofy sword mouth technique.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on November 24, 2016, 05:53:26 AM
yeeeee they're making CVanimation do this fight that means a better animator is doing the next ones, this means i can just fully skip this one
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Post by: DatKofGuy on November 27, 2016, 06:20:30 PM
meh.. I almost think the ad at the beginning was longer than the fight
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Post by: SNT on November 27, 2016, 09:44:12 PM
Bullshit.
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Post by: Titiln on November 27, 2016, 09:51:13 PM
i'm unbiased since i don't give a shit about either character and i can say: that was awful
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Post by: Long John Killer on November 27, 2016, 09:59:20 PM
Eh. Animation wasn't all that good and pretty low key for both members being so over the top. Exact outcome I don't agree with, shouldn't mean much to lose his head really, but right winner anyways.
I've tried reading through Hellsing but never finished it. I made it through a few of the books so my knowledge on Alucard's fairly limited to that and what people repeat on the internet, but beyond boasting how he's so much better than Castlevania's Alucard, he doesn't seem in Spawn's class. Though somehow he was thrown into the sun and lived near the end? Spawn's annoyingly specific means to kill him would make it a moot point in the end anyways if it was the other way around.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on November 27, 2016, 10:05:36 PM
That match was nowhere near as epic as it should have been even with the spritesets involved.
Also the ending is horseshit because Spawn is definitely a monster not a man, but whatever it's DBX
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Post by: SlySuavity on November 28, 2016, 02:10:25 PM
Alucard in himself is a concept, so it'd take just a tad bit more than decapitation to off him.
Sharing my discontent, either way.
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Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on November 28, 2016, 02:58:42 PM
I really should get around to watching Hellsing completely. Spawn should stomp most people he comes across though, he is extremely powerful.
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 28, 2016, 03:13:32 PM
alucard can't be killed right? plus spawn is no longer human so he can't kill alucard.
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Post by: Zemilia on November 30, 2016, 03:09:34 PM
You know the drill.
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Post by: hatter on November 30, 2016, 03:30:11 PM
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I like how he just cuts Erza in half, then continues on his merry way looking for the shipyard, lol.
Also, if you want to skip to the battle, go to 10:54.
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Post by: Long John Killer on November 30, 2016, 11:47:28 PM
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Maaaaaan, I don't care about Deadpool. Unless they're killing him, then have fun. Dunno what his opponent would be unless they're taking a page from other VS videos like Dante or Saitama.
Eh, well, I guess the one I like better than the other won. Genuinely surprised that disarm ability not only wasn't put into action, it wasn't even brought up. But I suppose if they're going to say he's at least 8x faster than her, doesn't particularly matter.
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Post by: Seadragon77 on December 01, 2016, 12:50:48 AM
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Well, since Deadpool is back, why not pit him against Deadshot? That character got a recent surge in popularity thanks to Suicide Squad and the upcoming Injustice 2.. it makes sense to me.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 01, 2016, 03:37:28 AM
match was so anti climatic it didn't even remotely make me bare any interest in the slightest
short af DB not worth the 3 week wait, and fuck the DB cast.
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just announce who deadpool is fighting
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Post by: Darkflare on December 01, 2016, 02:22:15 PM
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I'm rather interested on the opponent just because Deadpool is pretty much immortal.
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on December 01, 2016, 02:27:17 PM
For once I hope it's One Punch Man. Because how exactly can you one-punch something that is immortal?
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Post by: Foobs on December 01, 2016, 02:47:01 PM
Saitama has killed enemies with strong healing factors.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 01, 2016, 10:06:50 PM
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didn't they get rid of the thanos curse thing for deadpool?
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Post by: The Boss on December 02, 2016, 06:27:11 PM
I think Deadpool is going to face another 4th wall breaker from a franchise(That is overrated thanks to the fans)
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 02, 2016, 06:35:22 PM
just heard who he's fighting
im seriously contemplating dropping death battle this season.... this is 6 weeks of skipping their videos....
for those who dont know....
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its a fucking pony, the pink one
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Post by: Duos.act on December 02, 2016, 06:49:19 PM
Lol but they used them on the show before.
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Post by: Seadragon77 on December 02, 2016, 07:01:09 PM
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Yes, it's going to be Pinkie Pie... I want to kick the person who thought this would be a good idea square in the balls... 100 times over. In fact, I'm hoping now that this battle is such a fucking curb stomp that it basically tells them to never use My Little Pony in Death Battle ever again!
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Post by: The Boss on December 02, 2016, 07:42:15 PM
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It's predictable,Deadpool VS Pinkie Pie is predictable
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Post by: R565 on December 02, 2016, 08:24:16 PM
Why you ask? Maybe to just put it out there but one thing is certain...THIS MATCHUP LOOKS DUMB.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 02, 2016, 09:43:03 PM
its passable making them a one off character for laughs plus it was hasbro vs hasbro but this now is animationrewind levels of shit matchups and they dont have great animators aside from torrian to salvage this
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Post by: Neo_Fire_Sonic on December 02, 2016, 09:52:50 PM
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If rainbow dash could beat starscream then pinkie can clearly beat deadpool
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Post by: Long John Killer on December 02, 2016, 11:41:36 PM
Wasn't the Rainbow Dash vs Starscream one's concept the best of the worst versus the worst of the best for Hasbro? My Little Pony has no real considerable traits for a Death Battle, so for a joke match they had to really stretch her talents and dumb down Starscream. (And slow down how lasers work? Never mind the whole dashing into a tougher than earthly metal robot with frail tiny horse bones not resulting in a bloody splat)
I've given the show two tries and could not stand it, so I'll need further explanation as to what particularly is so special about Pinkie Pie beyond the ability to make a joke referencing the viewer of the show, because if that's all the qualification takes then it might as well be Piccolo or Bubbles from the Powerpuff Girls, someone who can actually fight to the death. Or put the horse against Bubbles actually, isn't this the one Tara Strong voices? But I've never known the pink horse to do anything spectacular at all? The blue one flies fast, the purple one's a low level witch, and....that's it, I think? The orange one is a horse rancher I think, ironically.
Eh. Well, don't care about Deadpool, actually kinda sickened about him ever since reading that Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe series, and don't have any love for MLP, so this is a disappointing turnout.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 03, 2016, 06:31:04 AM
the deadpool in that comic was a evil alternate version of deadpool that later..... gets killed off by regular deadpool
that aside, they wouldn't put a pony in a death battle to die, especially when nick said the researcher is a fuckin brony. like... if i didn't make my point clear enough, this and say a recent animation rewind fight dont look that different imo
AND ITS THE SEASON FINALE? fuuuuuck no like anyone else from dante to miss fortune could have taken the spot(or ooooor not have deadpool even return so soon)
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Post by: Long John Killer on December 03, 2016, 06:41:13 AM
I think we read two different Deadpool vs the Marvel Universe books. The one I read was 4 parts, which was just Deadpool's head "clearing the voices" of wanting to live in his fake comic universe, systematically brutally killing everyone who doesn't commit suicide, mind breaking Taskmaster by teaching him he's a fake concept, going to the real world and killing the writer and artists of the series to thus end it in a gag. No "good" Deadpool to get rid of him, just the one Deadpool killing Thor with his hammer, torturing the X-Men and laughs a plenty.
Where did they say it was the season finale? It was my understanding Unicron vs Galactus was the long planned out finale to this season. Was it in that Death Battle Cast series they've started?
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 03, 2016, 02:32:52 PM
Deadpool kills the marvel universe is followed up with killustrated and deadpool kills deadpool where it states that he's not the main marvel deadpool but an evil one from another universe. he doesn't kill the writers but makes them make him kill the inspirations that marvel characters are based off
then regular deadpool n co take him down
and yes, torrian brought it up
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 03, 2016, 04:48:31 PM
Decent fight
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Although Batman going into this potential fight without some form of EMP is just poor writing. Yeah, yeah "no research" whatever but that's exactly why he lost his fight with Spider-Man, he got into a fight without any means of countering the other guy's abilities.
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Post by: Kirishima on December 03, 2016, 05:46:04 PM
Deadpool kills the marvel universe is followed up with killustrated and deadpool kills deadpool where it states that he's not the main marvel deadpool but an evil one from another universe. he doesn't kill the writers but makes them make him kill the inspirations that marvel characters are based off
then regular deadpool n co take him down
and yes, torrian brought it up
That's...I don't even know. Monumentally stupid, I think? What's the point of killing a fake Deadpool when everyone else is already dead anyways? How can there be company to help Deadpool when everyone else in the universe is dead? What's the point of making the until then taken to be real Deadpool because it's stated as such and making him just a fake but with all Deadpool's past memories and...you know what, forget it, I don't want to know.
What I do want to know is what's the deal with Unicron and Galactus then. Is it the series finale then, when they're done with Death Battle as a whole? Put off for the next season's end? Scrapped altogether? I mean, this next fight is such a joke I'm having trouble believing it's really the end of the season and they're going to do some fourth wall break "got ya" joke during the match and say they've got more planned or something.
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Post by: The Boss on December 05, 2016, 11:10:05 PM
Deadpool's opponent has been revealed by editing their facebook profile:
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Of course it was Pinkie Pie as we predicted,Man I hate being right
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Post by: DatKofGuy on December 06, 2016, 03:44:43 PM
Wasn't sure if I should put this in the MCU thread or here, but since its a battle...
Some really good looking models and animation for one guy.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 06, 2016, 06:41:04 PM
Wasn't sure if I should put this in the MCU thread or here, but since its a battle... [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJKpV47RuEw[/youtube] Some really good looking models and animation for one guy.
that was amazing
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Post by: The Boss on December 07, 2016, 03:52:11 PM
How cool.
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Post by: Zemilia on December 07, 2016, 06:37:37 PM
Technically this is a OMM, But I wonder why they call it a bonus ep.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 07, 2016, 07:30:56 PM
Good fight, they made shadow do more stuff than all other fights hes put in
whos fei long fighting in the preview i dont fully recognise the silhouette
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Post by: D.R.B on December 07, 2016, 09:52:09 PM
Deadpool, Again...
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Post by: JudaiZX on December 07, 2016, 11:43:58 PM
Technically this is a OMM, But I wonder why they call it a bonus ep.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/AXUd9w1QNLo[/youtube]
Now THATS how you do a Shadow vs Vegeta video
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Post by: DatKofGuy on December 08, 2016, 12:26:10 AM
Iiiiiits.. Super Power Beatdown time
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 08, 2016, 04:20:52 PM
While it was a decent fight and I agree with the outcome...
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What Wolverine even is that? Very early Wolverine when he first teamed up? The Wolverine I know is a pretty chivalrous guy and wouldn't say things like "So this island is filled with big breasted women" or "Let's play a game called just the tip" The thing with Psylocke is a little more understandable I guess but eh... he would have also at least tried to explain things to Wonder Woman without shifting straight into asshole mode.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 11, 2016, 04:01:04 PM
A good actual animation just needed a bit of sound and visual effects n lighting and it would have been amazing for a DBX ...actually its already top 3
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Post by: DatKofGuy on December 11, 2016, 11:11:14 PM
Not surprising it was good, since it was animated by the guy who did all those fanmade RWBY trailers... Screwattack just sucks up all the good animators out there.
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Post by: D.R.B on December 14, 2016, 09:55:17 PM
...........
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Post by: Long John Killer on December 14, 2016, 11:09:50 PM
So cartoon physics. All that is just cartoon physics, slapstick absurd humor and claiming it as a superpower.
Why would they waste the potential of that type of match up with a repeat and someone I doubt many are wanting to see when the obvious choice should have been Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? Which wouldn't have been a very good episode for a fight to the death in my opinion anyways, but still, there's a bigger rivalry there than these two.
I still suspect they're not going to be killing each other, but it's some big prank to pull out the real season finale. Alternatively they just keep going to find out who has the firmer place in reality and write the other one out of existence, maybe? Which is still Bugs Bunny's territory, but whatever.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 15, 2016, 09:02:41 AM
this is gonna be animated by the guy who did ryu vs lucario and amy vs ramona
it wont be a bad animation but like.... for a season finale im annoyed
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 17, 2016, 06:51:34 PM
So this is out
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 18, 2016, 04:03:55 PM
what are those silhouettes?
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Post by: SlySuavity on December 18, 2016, 04:55:50 PM
The miracles of MS Paint.
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Post by: Long John Killer on December 18, 2016, 11:09:54 PM
I like the suggestion in the comments that it's Waddle Dee and Goomba, but the right silhouette keeps making me think the Ice Climbers' eggplant.
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Post by: Seadragon77 on December 21, 2016, 03:47:13 PM
Where's the ass whooping? There's supposed to be a fucking Pony getting her fucking ass whooped!!
This is the single worst Death Battle in history... yep. Even worst then Rainbow Dash beating Starscream.
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Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 21, 2016, 03:54:56 PM
....that ending....can't roll my eyes enough
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Post by: Terry McJarrow on December 21, 2016, 04:18:54 PM
I'll have to admit it, this is such a cliché Death Battle for that season finale (or whatever the case may be), even after watching that vid, and i have to partially agree with Seadragon77 there. I mean, what was the point of having this episode for such a lame-ass battle with no ass-whoopin' if it's meant to be a comedic way? A wasted opportunity. I don't give a fuck what anyone else says.
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Post by: Person Man on December 21, 2016, 04:19:53 PM
Haha, that was excellent. Never underestimate the power of Pinkie Pie.
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Post by: R565 on December 21, 2016, 10:28:44 PM
Haha, that was excellent. Never underestimate the power of Pinkie Pie.
Word.
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Post by: Duos.act on December 21, 2016, 10:32:52 PM
Best episode of the season hands down. Absolutely amazing. I had no expectations going into it but I was surprised.
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Post by: Negi Springfield on December 22, 2016, 12:17:30 AM
Alternate ending
Edit: It seems like they actually added to the episode in general, not just the ending.
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Post by: Long John Killer on December 22, 2016, 12:19:30 AM
Yeah....no, that was just annoying and not really funny. With further background knowledge on Pinkie Pie, I think I actually like it less now. So in your face about being obnoxious, at least that's something she has over Deadpool, and that's Deadpool's bread and butter.
Ignoring the whole joke that the episode turned out to be, if they kept to their rules I suspect Deadpool wouldn't give a second thought to participating in whatever party she came up with...then blast her brains out, cut off the head then use it as a hand puppet. He's kinda dark with his humor and wouldn't pass up an opportunity to kill someone, even if they can see the 4th wall like him. Sure turned out that way when he showed Taskmaster how to do it.
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Post by: Person Man on December 22, 2016, 02:49:43 AM
Nah, Deadpool's not the type to just randomly murder someone for no reason. In fact he's got a pretty long history of going out of his way to find companionship. Look at all the times he's tried to convince the X-Men to let him join them. Or that time he decided he was going to join the Great Lakes Avengers so he could hang out with them until Squirrel Girl kicked him out. Hell, look at Blind Al and Bob, Agent of Hyrda; Two people Deadpool literally kidnapped and detained just because he wanted a friend. For all of his insanity and tendency towards ultra-violence, there's definitely a part of Deadpool's character that really values friendship.
So then in comes Pinkie Pie. You think that if Deadpool comes across someone who's every bit as crazy as he is, and immediately asks to be his best friend no questions asked, he's not going to immediately be on board? Even if the result of the battle was just a joke, that's pretty much exactly how that would happen anyway.
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Post by: Duos.act on December 22, 2016, 03:02:13 AM
Honestly, it seems like a lot of you are just disappointed it wasn't Deadpool slaughtering Pinkie Pie in some generic MLP bashing thing. I've never watched an episode of FiM in my life and I had a great time with this episode. I don't know.
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Post by: Long John Killer on December 22, 2016, 03:10:42 AM
I don't actively seek out to read Deadpool, so evidently you're more versed in him than I am, but of what I have seen he's literally insane. And murdering people is his job, the incentive isn't really asking for much either as long as he gets a kick out of it.
So to your second part, will he agree to be best friends? Sure. He'll have many happy parties with her, with each limb being a member and be absolutely cross at the right hind hoof for slouching. His loneliness is probably just as easily rectified by his standards by bodies as much as real people, just the dead ones will bore him eventually.
I'm not buying any sort of real happy ending for them. But nor do I really care for it either, so let it be what it is I suppose. Hopefully that big long awaited next battle is the Galactus vs Unicron one we skipped in favor of this. That's the only one they've confirmed working on that people have hyped up in multiple videos that I know of.
Honestly, it seems like a lot of you are just disappointed it wasn't Deadpool slaughtering Pinkie Pie in some generic MLP bashing thing. I've never watched an episode of FiM in my life and I had a great time with this episode. I don't know.
I dunno, maybe. I've had a thing against the show since an old friend of mine turned complete fanatic over it when it first game out, absolutely hating watching it back then and from there it just washed over the internet to absolute annoyance. Not a fan of Deadpool either, but wouldn't have minded the lesser of two evils doing his thing in this case. Guess I'm just petty and bias. Am trying to keep civil about how this match should have gone though.
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Post by: Person Man on December 22, 2016, 03:17:37 AM
Jesus Christ dude, he's Looney Toons insane, not Jeffrey Dahmer insane what the hell. He kills people because he's a mercenary. He's not running around hacking random civilians into chunks and talking to severed body parts like Yoshikage Kira or whatever you said. Your interpretation there is so utterly removed from anything that the character has ever been written like I actually can't think of how you could have possibly arrived at it.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on December 22, 2016, 03:20:17 AM
Well the last thing I read was Deadpool kills the Marvel Universe. So there's that. He sure isn't no Daffy Duck there, I'll tell you that.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Person Man on December 22, 2016, 03:26:59 AM
That was an alternate universe! And then that Deadpool was killed by the real Deadpool in Deadpool Kills Deadpool!
Yeah, 2013 was around the time that Deadpool oversaturation hit critical mass. >.>
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Long John Killer on December 22, 2016, 03:38:14 AM
That line more or less sums up why I don't try to read Deadpool. It's not even ridiculous comic regulations like the nonsense Superman had to go through and then look back at and laugh at, that's all just part of Deadpool's character and "charm".
But fine, so he's not going to eat their liver with fava beans a nice chianti. My mistake. I'm still of the camp that he'd find an excuse to kill her, for trying to outdo his wackiness if nothing else.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Person Man on December 22, 2016, 04:00:04 AM
I'd say that whole thing speaks more to Marvel going way overboard on the marketting and cramming Deadpool down everyone's throats for a couple of years than it does to Deadpool as a character, but that's still a totally understandable reason for getting turned off on the character.
Gods, thinking back on it around that time he had like 3 or 4 dedicated ongoing monthlies plus a handful of mini-series, on top of being in X-Force and cameoing in pretty much every other book on a regular basis. It got bad for a while there.
Title: Re: Death Battle/One Minute Melee
Post by: Pooh Hardy on December 22, 2016, 10:25:15 AM
Honestly, it seems like a lot of you are just disappointed it wasn't Deadpool slaughtering Pinkie Pie in some generic MLP bashing thing. I've never watched an episode of FiM in my life and I had a great time with this episode. I don't know.
imo this was the most autistic fanfic style of a script i've ever read "and then deadpool and pinkie pie become bestest friends and play around dancing and laughing and then have a birthday party with alll the other ponies and they lived happily ever after the end"