The only thing I'm doing is responding to posts logically.

It happens to be amusing to me at the moment (I also happen to be drunk)

Um, when I say early on and multiple times that I will respond to personal insults with even more direct personal insults to keep the bullshit obvious for the sake of clarifying it as the bullshit that it actually is, and to make the point that it's a waste of time, yeah I call it logical.  Is the discourse that usually follows logical? No not really.

Hey, I'm not always drunk.  Kinda rarely actually.  Except as of late.  I just moved to near the beach and palm trees for a few months, so I can be expected to be drinking a little more than usual.

uhh... how can I make that more clear?  What don't you get about it?

Snakebyte said, April 18, 2013, 04:27:59 am

RobotMonkeyHead said, April 18, 2013, 04:18:19 am

Rajaa said, April 18, 2013, 02:01:30 am

All in all, I think it's pretty clear that RMH's little "experiment" (AKA He's trolling and not really serious) of testing people's intelligence levels has made him malfunction because he wasn't prepared for how much smarter other people are compared to him. Even 12-year-olds can detect obvious sarcasm and make arguments without linking to Wikipedia.

For the, what's it, the 4th time?  I'm not trolling.  I'm having fun taking you all apart, because really you have no point, other than that I have no point, where my point is actually scientifically proven as likely, and is still clearly stated as just my opinion.  Your own insecurity is probably the only thing preventing you from pulling your head out of your own ass for long enough to see that your ideas about beauty being entirely subjective are Completely disproven by the 'irrelevant' wiki articles I linked your ignorant ass to. 

Good lord. I think you need to learn what words mean.

Trolling?  Intentionally stirring up shit for the sake of stirring up shit?  The only thing I'm doing is responding to posts logically.  It happens to be amusing to me at the moment (I also happen to be drunk), and people happen to disagree with what I'm saying, but I'm neither lying nor stirring up shit for it's own sake.  I'm defending my own opinion, not asserting that anyone else's is total BS.  Unless their opinion is about my opinion of course, in which case I'm completely entitled to determine what is and is not my opinion, though not necessarily how they view it.  If you all are going to get on the offensive, I'll play D for a bit.  Don't mind if I do.

Iced said, April 18, 2013, 01:26:25 am

both point A and point B are merely results of your own  sexism and your own observations, while those things CAN happen nothing implies it happened or are the only reason anything happened, you are talking of something as if it was certain instead of possible.

No you're only look at black the black and white.  No one is arguing whether or not it could happen.  Of course it's fucking possible.  The probability is the issue.  I'm saying very probably, as the science says.  You're saying unlikely, which the science does not say.  And knock it off with the sexist shit.  I'm not sexist, you're just trying to paint me as dysfunctional in any way you can to help back up your shitty stance.
 

Iced said, April 18, 2013, 01:26:25 am

Thats why you are belittling any effort she had because she was "attractive" .  Which is by its own definition a sexist action.
I ilustrated all of those when I told you that I could assume the same from you and it would still be baseless., and you claimed i was an homophobe by making the same remarks you were making about her.

I'm not saying she put in very little effort.  Show me where I said that? Please.  In fact I wouldn't be surprised if arguing in favor of feminism has been the most difficult thing she's done (which, who knows how much that's really saying).  I'm saying regardless of how hard she tried, be objectivized as an attractive girl obviously worked in her favor.  Get it yet?

Iced said, April 18, 2013, 01:26:25 am

If you want to have an opinion go ahead man, have a cow of opinions, but your opinions dont turn into facts unless things actually related to the things you are implying happen.

Well thanks for finally giving me permission to have my opinion.  I don't recall arguing against yours unless it was about mine, which of course, then it's in my interest to, mostly for learning sake. 

Iced said, April 18, 2013, 01:26:25 am

Its now my opinion that Obama enjoys hip hop.

Your opinion is fucking retarded, let me bash you personally for 10 pages over it.  Dick.  <- You deserve that.

Iced said, April 18, 2013, 01:26:25 am

Do black people like hip hop?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop
seems like it. Empirical data ftw.
Thus its now a fact that Obama enjoys hip hop.

A black person enjoying hip-hop is culturally dependent.  The attractiveness stereo-type is cross culture, cross gender and cross time.  I suppose if I were following your form I would call you a racist at this point.

Iced said, April 18, 2013, 01:26:25 am

I will stand by this baseless idea even when there is nothing that shows them connected  in anyway, because there is a chance i might be right. ( PS Im not actually standing by those , this was again an example )

"I will admit that 'it could happen' but not that science says it's entirely probable or that the science is at all related to an actual attractive person."

Iced said, April 18, 2013, 01:26:25 am

ps: Point c is a bad idea, you are insulting people as being uninteligent when you couldnt understand the meaning of the mocking posts where they were implying you were trolling, to bring attention back to them and their lack of "comprehension" when you have done this just makes people point out again that you werent as bright as you believed if you couldnt even understand those posts.

You mean the part where I failed to realize for a few posts that those two numbskulls would confuse 'toying' with trolling?  When some idiot demanding proof that an attraction bias applies to an attractive person while refuting the relevance comes out with 'LOL I WAS TROLLING THE ENTIRE TIME', I will probably believe them next time too.  I did realize that a post or two later when he mentioned sarcasm, but at that point Bitch was on the troll train anyway, so I reciprocated admittedly, much in the same way I do with obvious insult.  As far as toying with peoples intellect goes, if that shit counts as trolling most people on this thread are guilty as far as I'm concerned (unless anyone here can claim to be dead serious about this whole shit, in which case I'm terribly sorry, but please.)  If that's the claim, fine.

Iced said, April 18, 2013, 01:26:25 am

In general I dont see the need to insult people while arguing with them, you can say that what they are saying is ridiculous, you can tell them that what they claiming is dumb, but to go "bitch bitch fuckstain bitch" makes anyone come off as comically edgy and trying to compensate.

Comical. Right. Toying. Yes. Without valid points? No. Dishonest? No.

I'll say again, that the only time I'll devolve to personal insults is when someone posts some obvious personal insult (or trolling), then I send back a point blank obvious insult, like 'fuck you bitch', to keep the BS obvious as well as to make the point of how ridiculous it is.  Again I would do myself a service by making that more clear.

Iced said, April 18, 2013, 01:26:25 am

Jmorphman only become a mod because titiln thought he was pretty hot, true story.

Fuck you.

I'm not excusing myself at all.  Everything I said I meant. 
My room mate came home with beer at about 8.  By about 9 or so I had a pretty good buzz going.  By 10 I was kinda drunk.  By 11-12 I was full on drunken monkey status.  You can gauge the posts by that if you want, but that's it.  Most of this was entirely sober, and I'll stand behind any of it, whether I was drunk when I said it or not.

Now here's the disgusting thing about what's going on here.  This discussion is entirely about my Opinion that her looks played a major role in her success.  That's it.  Of fucking course they did.  That's what I think.  If you don't think so, Why the hell are you so invested in changing my mind?  Am I honestly expected to believe that you give this much of a shit about what my opinion is?  Not at all.  You're looking for a fight.  You socially violent sons of bitches are hot into some 'cyberbullying', I think the term is, and there's all kinds of fucked up psychology behind what you're doing right now. 

The funny part about this is that my 'behavior' here is following a simple format, which I've made expressly clear multiple times from the get go.  And I'll explain it one more time.  Here's the forumla:  99% of the time I will not initiate conflict.  Someone starts with personal insults (sometimes guised as 'actual points'), they get point blank personal insults back, to the tune of 'fuck you' or 'fuck off'.  Every single time. And in a brazenly direct manner to make it obvious that at that point it's going Nowhere constructive, and thus to test their intention.  If their intentions are shit, like Rajaa's and byakkos, a meaningless shit storm will ensue immediately which I use for entertainment and learning purposes (as does anyone reading this, likely) and I assume that's fair.  They're getting exactly what they're giving.  I can imagine they enjoy it, but in an entirely different way than I do.  In other cases, such as titiln and Iced, whom I wouldn't tag as assholes, logical exchange is much more likely and the level of insults match their own, but are usually sparse and more for highlight. 

Now before anyone starts breaking out the life lessons, I've done the non-confrontational thing for the better part of my life, and I'm good at it.  However, after seeing the clouds of mean fucks swarming on the internet, I've decided to probe their defenses and intentions. What I've found so far from dealing with these 'fucking pricks' (a little irony for titiln, given the feminst topic and typical genitalia laden cuss lexicon):  Some people think a mouth and a place to hide means that it's perfectly fine for them to treat people like shit.  Nothing will ever happen from it right?  (Keep practicing, it's a great habit to form.) Maybe these types are only 'good' when they fear punishment or hope for reward, or think people are like that in general, and will verbally assault people for fun as soon as they think they can get away with it, but some of us actually have something called empathy. 
What they have, in my estimation so far, is poor coping mechanisms likely regarding fear, and or fucked up life situations, for which they would easily deserve sympathy if they didn't create fucked up situations for other people as well.

Aside from using the above methods, you can often recognize those with shitty intentions by watching for people who will consistently ignore the actual point at hand and instead look for what they perceive to be subtle irrationalities in the expressions of other people that they can latch onto, and string up like a pinata for some childish catharsis.  When I see someone doing that shit constantly (like rajaa for example), my general approach is just to keep my distance. 

These are the kind of people that, in their more extreme forms (much more extreme than anyone I've seen on this forum), harass people like Anita directly, bully the fuck out of others, and generally just cause problems for otherwise well meaning people.  That doesn't make them 'bad people' to me, after all I have no idea what their lives are like.  My approach to people who behave in that way is to understand them.  My method, described above, is if they approach me to give them exactly what they give out and see how they deal with it.  Over time consistencies in their behavior emerge.  In a one on one discussion this is much easier than a 4 on 1 discussion, but I feel like I've held to my own ideals very well for the most part.  If anyone would like to show me where I didn't I would be happy to see it so I can work to adjust my behavior to my own standards.   

If anyone else wants to join in and gang up on me, your more than welcome to, I'll be glad to 'toy with your minds' until I've established the level of understanding I'm working for.   

Everything in this post is purely my own opinion. Now I'll get back to handling your complaints in the order which they were received.  But first I'm off to the bank.