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Jmorphman

Re: Warnings v2

#1361 November 14, 2012, 04:25:20 am

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

Rajaa said, November 14, 2012, 04:23:58 am

You could probably talk to him and avoid banning him. He doesn't seem completely outrageous.

Try talking to him personally and respectably.

I have been? I keep telling him to calm down and stuff and that's when he called me a dipshit. So yeah. >:[

Posted: November 14, 2012, 05:03:16 am
Banned. One month seems fair, I think.

I would have made the ban a week, if anything. He wasn't the only one throwing insults, etc. Remember, personal messages make people feel less like they're getting jumped, and it lets them know they're being moderated.

And he shouldn't necessarily show you "special" respect simply because you're a moderator, I was bothered by that post you made. Him calling you a dipshit is just as bad as him calling anyone else a dipshit. You implied that you let him personally affect you enough to make you want to ban him as a retaliation.

Cyanide

Re: Warnings v2

#1363 November 14, 2012, 06:57:04 am

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

One month is too long definitely. Our standard "slap on the wrist" is 3 days.

Also, best to take warnings to PM's as they are more likely to read them and if they respond like a cock in the PM you know they're not listening.

In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.

Jmorphman

Re: Warnings v2

#1364 November 14, 2012, 10:03:40 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

Rajaa said, November 14, 2012, 05:09:24 am

Remember, personal messages make people feel less like they're getting jumped, and it lets them know they're being moderated.

Eh, I didn't think it warranted a personal message. I asked him calmly to cool off, and he'd still feel persecuted by the other people in the thread, IMO.

Rajaa said, November 14, 2012, 05:09:24 am

And he shouldn't necessarily show you "special" respect simply because you're a moderator, I was bothered by that post you made. Him calling you a dipshit is just as bad as him calling anyone else a dipshit. You implied that you let him personally affect you enough to make you want to ban him as a retaliation.

Yeah, I did not mean that! I was gonna add something about "And you know, don't call other users dipshits either" or something, but I guess I never did.

As for the ban length, he'd been banned before (but I couldn't figure out why), so I thought a month long one was fair. But I suppose we can always reduce it?

Iced

Re: Warnings v2

#1365 November 14, 2012, 10:10:37 pm

日本は素晴らしい国です。

if you cant remember what he did last, it wasnt relevant to the thing he got banned for now and it shouldnt influence the lenght at all. a week would be more than enough.

HE IS MAD WITH POWER SOON HE WILL BE MAKING EVERYONE WATCH GUNDAM!

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Cyanide

Re: Warnings v2

#1366 November 14, 2012, 11:12:29 pm

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

Requesting we all start referencing threads or providing detailed description in the notes when banning please. Some of them aren't very descriptive at all and we can't tell what any prior ban was for.

In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.

Cobra Caddie

Re: Warnings v2

#1367 November 14, 2012, 11:20:45 pm

Most Dangerous Mugen

Agreed.

Jmorphman

Re: Warnings v2

#1368 November 27, 2012, 09:09:16 am

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

dncelestinx96 (who is banned right now) has been abusing the report section.

first he reported Iced for some reason, probably because MC2 did it and he wanted to be cool or something
then he reported Mgbenz for making a joke about spamming gay porn to people's emails
then he reported someone suggesting a Ryu Z2 be made
after that last one GOH told him to cut it out or his ban would be extended

So of course celest decides to be more careful in reporting things by reporting a topic for having a broken link, like, literally using the report section as a request board or something

After that last one I added another week to his ban and took away his login privileges. Maybe he didn't check the replies to his reports or something, but that's no excuse. He needs to straighten up fast for when his ban ends.

Iced

Re: Warnings v2

#1369 November 27, 2012, 11:22:58 am

日本は素晴らしい国です。

Mc2 is a drag whose posts revolve around how much he hates stuff or how much he is good at fighting games. Caddie totally demolished mc2 & pal arguments about how a krauser should play by being an actually good player and knowing what he was talking about.
Mad cad respect. Dont care if mc2 got butthurt over it, he can go tell people how much he hates stuff to feel better.

Celestin just seems like a kid trying to get some sort of respect by acting like the most obnoxious person in the room, try to steer him right if possible.

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Rajaa Retired

Re: Warnings v2

#1370 November 27, 2012, 03:17:59 pm

I believe you're talking about this (for people who don't know what you're talking about):

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/your-releases-mugen-1-0-re-wolgang-krauser-145941.msg1665945.html#msg1665945

What a coincidence, both of the above mentioned people are present in that report. I think I handled it well.

Jmorphman

Re: Warnings v2

#1371 November 29, 2012, 09:33:55 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

I'm going to ban Navana for 3 days if he doesn't answer my thrice-asked question.

Person Man

Re: Warnings v2

#1372 November 29, 2012, 09:47:19 pm

This is going to be very entertaining.

Exactly how many more chances is Navana going to get? It's always the same cycle with this guy. He acts like an obnoxious, gimmicky attention whore, gets called out for it, escalates his gimmicky bullshit, gets banned, comes back with a sob story and swearing to be a changed man, stays quiet for a little while, notices people aren't talking about him anymore, and acts like an obnoxious, gimmicky attention whore. Repeat ad infinitum.

I say that if he doesn't knock this crap off immediately, we perma-ban him once and for all. Enough is too much.

Jmorphman

Re: Warnings v2

#1373 November 29, 2012, 10:36:37 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

Perseline the Vampire Man said, November 29, 2012, 09:47:19 pm

Exactly how many more chances is Navana going to get? It's always the same cycle with this guy. He acts like an obnoxious, gimmicky attention whore, gets called out for it, escalates his gimmicky bullshit, gets banned, comes back with a sob story and swearing to be a changed man, stays quiet for a little while, notices people aren't talking about him anymore, and acts like an obnoxious, gimmicky attention whore. Repeat ad infinitum.

I say that if he doesn't knock this crap off immediately, we perma-ban him once and for all. Enough is too much.

He had a perfect opportunity to have everything forgotten and to become a normal member of the community, and everything seemed fine. Then he decided to make another MI and then lie about it. I don't understand the logic behind it at all.

So yeah, no more chances. This is it.

Mog

Re: Warnings v2

#1374 November 30, 2012, 01:15:39 am

I don't think he's done anything perma-ban worthy. He's very immature but even banning someone for three days because they wont respond to a post in the random topic over something that was obviously a joke seems kind of excessive to me too.

Rajaa Retired

Re: Warnings v2

#1375 November 30, 2012, 09:02:51 am

I don't think Navana should be banned because he didn't answer a question in a thread. He was ignoring you, if he's capable of doing that, then we should all be capable of ignoring him.

Did you try a personal mess -- wait, this is Navana we're talking about, a personal message would have done nothing.

He's a lying, conniving exhibitionist. Ban him forever or don't ban him at all. Three days means nothing.

Jmorphman

Re: Warnings v2

#1376 November 30, 2012, 04:40:10 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

Ignoring a moderator is a serious problem, isn't it? I think it is, so he gets a slap on the wrist while we talk about whether the ban should be permanent.

... and he has posted again, in Random Topic even. I'm doing it. I'm MAKING IT HAPEN

Mog

Re: Warnings v2

#1377 November 30, 2012, 11:49:22 pm

Ignoring a moderator is only a serious problem if the moderator is directing someone to stop breaking rules. As far as I know making a fake MI, linking to a fake MI, lying (if in fact it is a lie) about making a fake MI or anything to do with a fake MI is not against any rules.

Cyanide

Re: Warnings v2

#1378 December 01, 2012, 02:08:03 am

Legendary XIII
I am the eye of the storm to come!

^ +1 to that.

I don't even see that he's actively pissing people off. He has posted like this FOREVER. He's not going to change because of anything you say. Your attempts to "educate" achieve nothing. Stop trying.

In M.U.G.E.N there is no magic button

They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.

Jmorphman

Re: Warnings v2

#1379 December 06, 2012, 11:03:39 pm

If you’re gonna reach for a star...
reach for the lowest one you can.

So how are we deciding this? The Navana thing? I still don't know where I fall on it but Titiln is making very persuasive arguments in the feedback topic. $:-\$

Person Man

Re: Warnings v2

#1380 December 06, 2012, 11:20:32 pm

This is going to be very entertaining.

I say we should do what I said in the very beginning. Make this his absolute last chance. The next time he falls back into his routine, permaban him. One more roleplaying/font color gimmick, one more insincere 'apology' thread about how much he's changed, one more post completely ignoring the topic at hand just to say "hello there dear friends how are you all on this wonderful day

," one more post treating this forum like a personal tumblr just to start shitstorms, and we kick his ass out once and for all.

At this point, whether or not we can convince people to ignore him is irrelevant. If a troll is successful, you don't lay the blame with the people who got trolled, you still blame the stupid troll. Navana should be held accountable for his own actions.

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