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Title: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rote Zaungast on June 06, 2010, 11:49:01 pm
ok whoever believes in evolution is fucking dumber than a rock
motherfucking. roaches. they are so dumb they can't take any hints, even so dumb the females have to squeeze the male's dick out for them, they fucking walk everywhere and fly randomly YOU DO NOT DESERVE WINGS YOU FUCKERS AS IF ALL THAT FUCKING SHIT YOU GOT WASNT ENOUGH
they are like terminators, they both have shiny asses, they remain alive even when split in half not to mention the other shit they can survive, it takes a good fucking crush to get rid of them, only with a crappy looking body, and probably the crappiest hud ever made, and the most if not the only disgustingly disturbing agony scenes, you are not supposed to writhe and rapidly scratch the crack of my closet door when you are trapped there and I pound it on you sick shit
last week it took one fucker 15 tries running one way when there was a lot of room to choose from, to figure out there was a wall it could climb up, it was dumb in everything except of course when it came to stepping on it IF YOU READ MY MIND FUCKER WHY DIDNT YOU JUST MAKE A FUCKING SIGN OR WAIT QUITELY IN THE CORNER UNTIL I LEFT MY ROOM FROM THE START INSTEAD OF TAKING YOUR FUCKING TIME SIGHTSEEING YOU FUCKING RETARDATION IN A NUKESHELTER

also whoever came up with the idea to mix the fuckers up in a blender and make a cosmetic mask out of it...should. be. peeled. bit by bit, and castrated by all kinds of snake bites

yours sincerely the fucking bruce lee in me
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Santtu on June 07, 2010, 12:04:56 am
Fucking roaches, how do they work?
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Tony 3rd on June 07, 2010, 12:05:37 am
so... evolution is wrong because you outsmarted a roach?


interesting...
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 12:07:40 am
Evolution is wrong, but not because of that lol.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Foobs on June 07, 2010, 12:10:31 am
No.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Rote Zaungast on June 07, 2010, 12:12:48 am
so... evolution is wrong because you outsmarted a roach?

interesting...
way to miss the point
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 12:15:49 am
everything humans believed in is wrong!!
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 12:29:38 am
No.
Yes.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: TempesT on June 07, 2010, 12:37:27 am
Ye- No.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Santtu on June 07, 2010, 12:48:20 am
Prove it.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 12:50:34 am
Prove what?
You need to prove it, your the guy who believe in it.
And don't give me no "Because Darwin said, and he's smart" shit, I want a proper answer.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Santtu on June 07, 2010, 12:54:58 am
No no, I was asking for them to prove evolution for laughs.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 12:59:59 am
I need to stop failing.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 01:11:36 am
adaptation yes ... evolution no....
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: The Aboriginal One on June 07, 2010, 01:14:23 am
In a sense, adaptation is a form of evolution.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 07, 2010, 01:24:15 am
Prove what?
You need to prove it, your the guy who believe in it.
And don't give me no "Because Darwin said, and he's smart" shit, I want a proper answer.
Are you joking or for reals, I cant ever tell.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: TempesT on June 07, 2010, 01:26:30 am
This was split because...?
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 07, 2010, 01:31:30 am
Is evolution wrong because it made Roaches dumb, even with all of the features they have that makes them more annoying than they should be?

If so, I completely agree. There is no point to their existence, they should die.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 07, 2010, 01:33:38 am
Take some bacteria. Give them poison, come back in 6 weeks, give them the same poison, watch it not work. Evolution.

The bacteria will probably look the same though.

Is evolution wrong because it made us? We're the only species on the planet that spends it's time not only killing itself but ruining the environment that makes it possible to live. We have no purpose, we should die.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: tetsuo9999 on June 07, 2010, 01:33:51 am
Evolution is a mystery!
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 07, 2010, 01:35:19 am
This was split because...?
because it was being discussed and if they are gonna dedicate so many posts to a subject they can do it freely instead of in the random topic. Also Nnaj asked to be explained evolution, and most people wont look into random topic to explain him something.
Why do you have a naked woman in your avatar. D:
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 07, 2010, 01:36:48 am
Why do you have a naked woman in your avatar. D:
And can you PM me the full pic please?  :D
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 07, 2010, 01:36:58 am
I wouldn't say dumber than a rock. I'll agree I have some issues with it (like how one just gains the ability to Reason out of nowhere) but I don't throw away the baby with the bath water, you can't say that evolution is completely wrong, there's too much evidence to suggest differently.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 07, 2010, 01:38:57 am
Is evolution wrong because it made us? We're the only species on the planet that spends it's time not only killing itself but ruining the environment that makes it possible to live. We have no purpose, we should die.

We're not "ruining the environment," we're doing things that make the earth change so that it may maintain itself. The planet's not gonna explode or mess up, it's not going anywhere at all. We're the ones that are gonna go bye-bye, the earth will still be here when we're gone.

And yeah, we have no purpose either, we should die.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Rote Zaungast on June 07, 2010, 01:46:35 am
no further discussion allowed because tempest's avatar already proves intelligent design
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: TempesT on June 07, 2010, 01:49:56 am
thanks
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 07, 2010, 01:50:49 am
no further discussion allowed because tempest's avatar already proves intelligent design
You dont need to go back than to look at women 100 years ago to notice adaptation and evolution applied to a species.
You can even go into dog breeding and the adaptation of wolves into chihuahuas if you want another one. "shrug"
evolution doesnt mean that what you have now is the strongest, it doesnt care about the origin of life. It tries to explain adaptation and genetical changes applied to races over time.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 07, 2010, 01:51:09 am
We're not ruining the Earth. We're excessively changing it for the worse. But that doesn't make mankind bad, it makes the ones in charge of environmental affairs bad at his/her job. hahaha.

@Iced: ", it doesnt care about the origin of life. It tries to explain adaptation and genetical changes applied to races over time."

I agree.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: shin. [OFWGKTA] on June 07, 2010, 01:52:35 am
Well, fuck the fossil record :(
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 07, 2010, 01:53:19 am
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We're not "ruining the environment," we're doing things that make the earth change so that it may maintain itself.
I said "ruining the environment that makes it possible to live" Also, i was poking fun at your comment just to show that if you use that argument it can apply to every creature on earth. Either they're eaten or killed by us, or make our lives miserable, or have nothing at all to do with us, any of those can be used as an argument for "lets get rid of them"
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 07, 2010, 01:53:59 am
lol black people.

I rememeber reading that they ar a godo 20k or so years ahead of evolution if compared to other races, too bad we are not living in the jungle and hunting lions anymore, talk about a waste of time.

Is evolution wrong because it made us? We're the only species on the planet that spends it's time not only killing itself but ruining the environment that makes it possible to live. We have no purpose, we should die.

you say it like it' s wrong; the only thing we are messing up with is not having any practical means of gto of earth when we ruin it.

because it was being discussed and if they are gonna dedicate so many posts to a subject they can do it freely instead of in the random topic. Also Nnaj asked to be explained evolution, and most people wont look into random topic to explain him something.
Why do you have a naked woman in your avatar. D:

it's a man.

Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Epic Winnery on June 07, 2010, 01:55:21 am
Everybody shut up and wait for Luigi1632's insight
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: shin. [OFWGKTA] on June 07, 2010, 01:57:50 am
But Luigi1632 is a Christian teabagger, he probably thinks God is female. FUCK let's not discuss that
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 01:58:34 am
I know what evolution is already, but I know it's not true.
Gorillas may look like us but, they don't have the intelligence we have.
You don't see apes' making clothes, finding ways to make energy...
Anyway, if they did evolve, why they still here? Wouldn't they all be humans because they have "evolved".

About the bacteria thing. That's a normal thing.
If you got punched in the face for the first time it's going to hurt like hell.
2nd time you might be able to deal with it better and punch the guy back.
After a few times you would be used to that pain and would be able to take a few more hits until you can't bare no more. Take boxers for example.
No normal person would be able to take 1 big punch and be able to stand up.
Boxers slowly learn how to cope with it and can endure several punches.

Anyway, what do you expect? I'm a christian, ofcourse I would disagree about evolution.

lol black people.

I rememeber reading that they ar a godo 20k or so years ahead of evolution if compared to other races, too bad we are not living in the jungle and hunting lions anymore, talk about a waste of time.
wtf?
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 02:01:31 am
Evolution is a mystery!

Full of change that no one sees ---

how about dinosaurs evolved into chickens what the hell darwin what the hell.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: shin. [OFWGKTA] on June 07, 2010, 02:02:54 am
Anyway, if they did evolve, why they still here? Wouldn't they all be humans because they have "evolved".

It's called common ancestry.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 07, 2010, 02:06:08 am
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About the bacteria thing. That's a normal thing.
It's also the tenet of how things evolve. Small adaptations over time. Bacteria just happen to do it far far faster than more complex organisms. The bacteria resistant to the poison pass it on when they split.

You would not be able to pass on your "toughness" by breeding.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: momo! on June 07, 2010, 02:06:48 am
I know what evolution is already, but I know it's not true.
Gorillas may look like us but, they don't have the intelligence we have.
You don't see apes' making clothes, finding ways to make energy...
Anyway, if they did evolve, why they still here? Wouldn't they all be humans because they have "evolved".

Because according to evolution gorillas are on a much lower rung of the evolutionary ladder. so naturally they'll be less intelligent.  they don't need clothes since they've got that fur. they don't need to make energy other than for themselves, so they eat food.
we need clothes, because we've got that shame stuff going on, we need to make energy because that's how we've evolved.

Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 02:08:52 am
Anyway, if they did evolve, why they still here? Wouldn't they all be humans because they have "evolved".

It's called common ancestry.
lol forgot that  ;P

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About the bacteria thing. That's a normal thing.
It's also the tenet of how things evolve. Small adaptations over time. Bacteria just happen to do it far far faster than more complex organisms. The bacteria resistant to the poison pass it on when they split.

You would not be able to pass on your "toughness" by breeding.
But that's bacteria, not animals or humans...
And I wasn''t talking about passing on toughness, just was saying about how people adapt not evolve.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: BigSally on June 07, 2010, 02:09:46 am
if evolution don't exist then explain Black people  :D
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 02:11:12 am
if evolution is true , why wasn't humans evolve into a weaker being? we don't have built in weapons like claws or defensive scales or strength or super sharp senses imo we devolve isn't organisms evolve to adapt their surroundings? hell take one human put it into the wild that human might not last a week.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 07, 2010, 02:14:19 am
pit a human with a machine guy against a lion.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nucka on June 07, 2010, 02:14:59 am
Evolution is real but not for humans.
We did not evolve directly from monkeys or apes.

hell take one human put it into the wild that human might not last a week.
Wrong. Humans as a species can survive quite well in the wild. We did it for thousands of years.
Your statement is equivalent to saying that an infant wouldn't stand a chance at winning the UFC title.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: shin. [OFWGKTA] on June 07, 2010, 02:16:15 am
if evolution is true , why wasn't humans evolve into a weaker being? we don't have built in weapons like claws or defensive scales or strength or super sharp senses imo we devolve isn't organisms evolve to adapt their surroundings? hell take one human put it into the wild that human might not last a week.

Because those are the traits we were given? Why aren't many other animals blessed to have the heightened intelligence that humans have? Evolution doesn't create a super-species, it creates a pool of genetic variability in which different traits are distributed among different tiers of the phylogenetic tree.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 07, 2010, 02:17:03 am
we pretty much started pwning all other species when we created guns. so allthose claws and shit became useless.

Just imagine a pregnant woman being told by the doctor that her fetus will not have strong bones ecause all the calcium is going to her claws.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 07, 2010, 02:17:34 am
Nnajj.
im noticing a common error.
Evolution doesnt need to be "good", it just means that something changes and mutates.
We have bred animals through forced evolution, chicken, dogs, wolves.  Natural evolution means that those animals more sucessfull get to pass their genes forward, but not all evolution is beneficial.
A chihuahua isnt better than a wolf, it has just evolved differently.
There is also examples of breeding in humans, its called the British Royalty.

You are taller, and live longer than your ancestors, and its not because you have taken more punches to the face than them. You have evolved from your ancestry and thus have mutations that make you a son of their families and not others.

Im sensing you are serious with those questions, do you want something in specific that I could provide you links or information so you can read up on it?
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 02:17:40 am
oh ok take one american teenager into the wild let's justin beaver how long would he last.

i'm not saying evolution should create super species i'm saying 10000yrs+ of living and you evolved and become weaker. why?
what's the point of evolution if you're going to become weak.

for example 1 theory is chickens / birds came from dinosaurs because they're bipedal errr what kind of dinosaurs who uses two feet and what kind of dinosaurs who uses 4.

they said most dinosaurs who uses 2 feet are carnivorous now if the dinosaurs became extinct and try to re-surface as the dominant species again why choose to become a chicken?
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 02:23:50 am
if evolution don't exist then explain Black people  :D
How does black people got anything to do with evolution?
Humans have different skin colours, got nothing to do with changing into new forms.
Black people don't have anything different from white people, only thing is are skin is less prone to get sun burn, lol. [size=3pt]and we have bigger dicks[/size]

Nnajj.
im noticing a common error.
Evolution doesnt need to be "good", it just means that something changes and mutates.
We have bred animals through forced evolution, chicken, dogs, wolves.  Natural evolution means that those animals more sucessfull get to pass their genes forward, but not all evolution is beneficial.
A chihuahua isnt better than a wolf, it has just evolved differently.
There is also examples of breeding in humans, its called the British Royalty.

You are taller, and live longer than your ancestors, and its not because you have taken more punches to the face than them. You have evolved from your ancestry and thus have mutations that make you a son of their families and not others.

Im sensing you are serious with those questions, do you want something in specific that I could provide you links or information so you can read up on it?
Thats called genes not evolution.
You can breed a dog lots of time with the same dog and your not going to get the same results. They will all look different.
And for the last time, when I was talking about the punches I was talking about adaption to certain things. It was an example, ok?
Stop acting like I'm misinformed. I don't have to believe in everything man says.
Evolution is just a theory and isn't even true.

Also, would you like me to show you links that prove my point?
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: BigSally on June 07, 2010, 02:24:08 am
orochi gill reported my last post

so what about dogs. are they inbread wolves or sumthin?
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 02:27:20 am
ok i had enough. i'll let this thread be and read some axe cop.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 07, 2010, 02:28:26 am
We evolved a brain that let us bypass the weaker features. In addition, humans are a tribal culture. A tribe of creatures armed even with weak weapons is generally a good deterrent to most predators. I mean, look at lions, they don't kill the whole herd of wildebeasts, they just pick off whatever they can. Humans wouldn't have run, they would have played defence with sharp objects.

As there are no solid facts about what else was happening at this point, for all we know it was the human thing and some sort of slow moving mobile food on the savannah and all the predators were cat sized.

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Thats called genes not evolution.
You can breed a dog lots of time with the same dog and your not going to get the same results. They will all look different.
And for the last time, when I was talking about the punches I was talking about adaption to certain things. It was an example, ok?
Stop acting like I'm misinformed. I don't have to believe in everything man says.
Evolution is just a theory and isn't even true.
That IS evolution. Your genes are entirely related to evolution. Just because it's forced doesn't make it not evolution.

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Evolution is the process of change in all forms of life over generations.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: shin. [OFWGKTA] on June 07, 2010, 02:28:59 am
oh ok take one american teenager into the wild let's justin beaver how long would he last.

i'm not saying evolution should create super species i'm saying 10000yrs+ of living and you evolved and become weaker. why?

oh ok take one dog into the ocean let's english bulldog how long would it last.

And we didn't become weaker at all; how many other species have the intelligence to understand the pragmatics of spoken language, using technology, and so forth? That's how our genetic makeup was passed on.

EDIT: Sorry, this was a totally late post.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nero D. on June 07, 2010, 02:32:02 am
we pretty much started pwning all other species when we created guns. so allthose claws and shit became useless.

Just imagine a pregnant woman being told by the doctor that her fetus will not have strong bones ecause all the calcium is going to her claws.

best post in this whole thread.

needs moar shoshingo
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nucka on June 07, 2010, 02:32:31 am
i'm not saying evolution should create super species i'm saying 10000yrs+ of living and you evolved and become weaker. why?
what's the point of evolution if you're going to become weak.
You're only focusing on a very very narrow aspect of existence. We are obviously stronger because we can think our way to the top.

ok i had enough. i'll let this thread be
Hey, get back here. I'm not done with you yet.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Tony 3rd on June 07, 2010, 02:32:58 am
oh ok take one american teenager into the wild let's justin beaver how long would he last.

i'm not saying evolution should create super species i'm saying 10000yrs+ of living and you evolved and become weaker. why?

Because, as men devoleped tools and started to change the environment to their needs, instead of doing as every other mammal on the planet and adapt to theirs, we actually found a way out.

Because of agriculture, because of pecuary, because people start to build houses instead of find shelter under a tree or a cave, because we decided to make our own rules instead of following what nature dictated, Men is no longer subject to natural evolution. While we don't have big claws, big fangs or a huge body, we did something that no other animal did: we got out of the game.


because of human society, everyone has the chance to procreate, not only the "stronger" types. so we are "weaker" because both weaks and strongs can pass their genes foward.

and I guarantee you that, if not for that, 99% of this board would not even be born.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 02:35:57 am
We evolved a brain that let us bypass the weaker features. In addition, humans are a tribal culture. A tribe of creatures armed even with weak weapons is generally a good deterrent to most predators. I mean, look at lions, they don't kill the whole herd of wildebeasts, they just pick off whatever they can. Humans wouldn't have run, they would have played defence with sharp objects.

As there are no solid facts about what else was happening at this point, for all we know it was the human thing and some sort of slow moving mobile food on the savannah and all the predators were cat sized.

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Thats called genes not evolution.
You can breed a dog lots of time with the same dog and your not going to get the same results. They will all look different.
And for the last time, when I was talking about the punches I was talking about adaption to certain things. It was an example, ok?
Stop acting like I'm misinformed. I don't have to believe in everything man says.
Evolution is just a theory and isn't even true.
That IS evolution. Your genes are entirely related to evolution. Just because it's forced doesn't make it not evolution.

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Evolution is the process of change in all forms of life over generations.
No there not.
I thought you were smart, lol.
According to you, evolution is changes from animal to animal or bacteria or whaterever.
If I came out really tall and it was passed on from my dad that's not evolution because I haven't gained anything. Did I get any smarter, no. Did I get any stronger to viruses, no.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 07, 2010, 02:37:29 am
Thats called genes not evolution.
You can breed a dog lots of time with the same dog and your not going to get the same results. They will all look different.
And for the last time, when I was talking about the punches I was talking about adaption to certain things. It was an example, ok?
Stop acting like I'm misinformed. I don't have to believe in everything man says.
Evolution is just a theory and isn't even true.

Also, would you like me to show you links that prove my point?

Everything "man" says?  Who do you have to believe about science other than facts studied by man? Religion? You cant take religion into science like that.

Believing in genes and not believing in evolution is like believing in cake but not in cooking. Genes are selected through mutation and gradual transformation through consecutive generations, its what makes several kinds of humans different phisically depending on where they were, but still the same race.
 Its what makes chickens related to lizards, and other egg laying animals. 
And all science facts are called theories, or do you want to not believe in the theory of gravity?
I am talking to you normally, if you feel that im treating you like you are misinformed, im sorry but there is no other way to talk about scientific facts, studied throughout ages by men dedicated to learn more about the truth to be more in touch with the universe, without exposing things like that.
The point you are making was even parodied in a simpsons episode, how am I supposed to try to talk to you without you feeling offended over it?

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No there not.
I thought you were smart, lol.
According to you, evolution is changes from animal to animal or bacteria or whaterever.
If I came out really tall and it was passed on from my dad that's not evolution because I haven't gained anything. Did I get any smarter, no. Did I get any stronger to viruses, no.

Thats a one generation leap, go compare your life expectancy and your father life expectancy with tthose of his great great great grandparents.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: BigSally on June 07, 2010, 02:38:41 am
LOL @ everyone trying to be smart  :)
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 07, 2010, 02:39:24 am
It's the process of CHANGE in a SPECIES. That doesn't mean you become superman. It just means your species is different from the previous generation.

Edit: Mini rant, why do so many people believe evolving has to mean better. It's just different, some species evolved badly and got killed off. Even though it's a theory it's something than can be proven in miniature. The reason we can't do anything about the higher lifeforms like gorillas is because it takes too long.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 02:40:52 am
i found it.... the answer to our questions!!!

our ancestors dab blood in their forehead and became humans end of story.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 07, 2010, 02:42:52 am
If I came out really tall and it was passed on from my dad that's not evolution because I haven't gained anything. Did I get any smarter, no. Did I get any stronger to viruses, no.

Evolution can't make you smarter; maybe god can.

Actually the smart thing brings something interesting ot the table, will we reach a point where being smarter is not something better at all,  thus makig us become even more stupid as time goes on, I mean we became physically weaker when we got tools }that could fight for us, and now that we have tools (computers) that can think for us, being smart is as useless as having claws. I rpedict the human race will become more and more stupid as time goes on.

There is also something about economics that is slightly related to thsi that I wish to talk about but it's kinda off topic so elt's continue bashing nnnnnnajjjjjjjjjj
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: shin. [OFWGKTA] on June 07, 2010, 02:43:07 am
No there not.
I thought you were smart, lol.
According to you, evolution is changes from animal to animal or bacteria or whaterever.
If I came out really tall and it was passed on from my dad that's not evolution because I haven't gained anything. Did I get any smarter, no. Did I get any stronger to viruses, no.
Reproduction means passing on alleles to the next generation, increasing genetic variability and potentially leading to natural selection. And natural selection is a substrate of evolution : D

Actually, this thread is reminding me that Jango should reupload his "Natural Selection" video.

Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: BigSally on June 07, 2010, 02:43:44 am
i heard mexicans caused global warming
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nucka on June 07, 2010, 02:45:28 am
i found it.... the answer to our questions!!!

our ancestors dab blood in their forehead and became humans end of story.
We all know that aliens made humans from their own DNA spliced with monkey's to start a gold-mining slave race.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 07, 2010, 02:47:31 am
i heard mexicans caused global warming

them damn beans.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 07, 2010, 02:48:18 am

There is also something about economics that is slightly related to thsi that I wish to talk about
mutation related to economics? Why dont you make a thread about it then?
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 02:50:13 am
eye wish my ancestors were yetis so eye can shoot eyesikels
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 07, 2010, 02:52:01 am

There is also something about economics that is slightly related to thsi that I wish to talk about
mutation related to economics? Why dont you make a thread about it then?

not related to mutation, but to natural selection and how the current economics are weeding out the middle ground, at least here I have noticed that you eitehr get a lazy job with decent hours and bad pay or if you want a good pay wyou pretty  uch have to live in your workplace , working 12-14 hours everyday and having no real weekends.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: BigSally on June 07, 2010, 02:52:22 am
eye wish my ancestors were yetis so eye can shoot eyesikels
was dat a black joke??
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: shin. [OFWGKTA] on June 07, 2010, 02:53:01 am
Take note that this thread broke out around the same time as that Evolution screenpack. COINCIDENCE
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Nucka on June 07, 2010, 02:54:27 am
I noticed that but had enough shame not to mention it.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 02:55:54 am
eye wish my ancestors were yetis so eye can shoot eyesikels
was dat a black joke??

I ain't black i'm asian. you gay caucasian
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: moolambo on June 07, 2010, 02:56:47 am
Fucking roaches, how do they work?
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: c00p on June 07, 2010, 03:54:17 am
http://evolutionfacts.com/Ev-V3/3evlch38.htm   ;)
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Foobs on June 07, 2010, 04:24:52 am
You don't see apes' making clothes, finding ways to make energy...
Anyway, if they did evolve, why they still here?
Sorry, after reading this extremely moronic and ignorant statement I can't afford to waste my time reading your other replies.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 07, 2010, 04:45:29 am
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http://evolutionfacts.com/Ev-V3/3evlch38.htm
Read through some of that page and got about half way. Then i got ratted when the person started making comments like

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Radioactive and other dating techniques are used to provide notoriously inaccurate dates, which are then declared to be correct.
Carbon dating is really very accurate. The only way it can be wrong is if something from one millenia falls into a hole where the area around it is of another millennia. That only proves the object is not as old as said, not that the age itself does not exist.

Far too much "science is always wrong" is coming out there. There's no possibility that anything is right, therefore we are. In general, they're trying too hard to refute a single book on the subject.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Jmorphman on June 07, 2010, 05:01:43 am
Evolution is wrong, but not because of that lol.
So you've never had a vaccination?

Anyway, what do you expect? I'm a christian, ofcourse I would disagree about evolution.
The vast majority of Christians believe in evolution.

You. Are. Being. Retarded.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: c00p on June 07, 2010, 05:14:32 am
Far too much "science is always wrong" is coming out there. There's no possibility that anything is right, therefore we are. In general, they're trying too hard to refute a single book on the subject.
kinda, but it has some valid points, plus the conclusion is at least worth reading
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 07:20:41 am
Oh man, some of you guys have no education or something. Not even high school. I'm not trying to be a dick, but it is obvious in lots of the statements.

Stuff like, we didn't evolve from gorillas. Well no shit, no anthropologist has ever said that we do. Now they did think until last year that we evolved from Chimps. Makes sense too, considering that mentally there is no difference between us and them until age four and that there is only a 5% or so genetic difference us and them.

But the recent ardipithecus find keeps pushing back our evolution and it now seems that Chimps are in fact our cousins and we share a common and extinct ancestor but we did not evolve from chimps.

Also. There used to be many smart primates on this planet, a couple of times in history there has been three at a time, maybe even more but three that we have known about with the data found so far.

The only two left on the planet are us and the Chimps and the Chimps are dying out. It seems that only man has been able to use his large brain to adapt to the environmental changes, or should I say, we adapt the environment to fit us.

That being said, two of the unsuccessful intelligent primates may have been killed off by us, and not died a normal extinction, like the Chimps are slowly doing. That was the Homo erectus  and the Neanderthal.

Homo Erectus was the first to leave Africa and we and the Neanderthal evolved from Erectus as did we. All three were alive at the same time so was Pan or Chimpanzee. But as soon as Homo Sapien (Us) left Africa and went to where Erectus (Asia) or Neanderthal (Europe) were, they died out.

One theory is that will killed them both out. Another is that we out bred them, because both were built for travel with a slightly better pelvis than ours, but not as good at birthing children as ours are. The other theory with Neanderthal is that we bred with them and they were absorbed into our DNA, but that is a highly disputed theory based on the fact that we have found hybrids of human and Neanderthals, but most scientist point out that these hybrids were most likely sterile just like the pink iguanas on the Galapagos islands who are the offspring of two different species of iguana.

And for my final proof of evolution. I bring you the blue skinned people of Kentucky. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyperry3/Blue_Fugates_Troublesome_Creek.html (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyperry3/Blue_Fugates_Troublesome_Creek.html)

(http://natureniche.tripod.com/pic/blueky.gif)

I learned about these people in an Anthropology class. Basically the Blue people or the Blue Mutation was bred out and was gone. But like any throw back, if two people that carry the Blue Mutation have a kid, the little fucker will pop out blue. So if you live in Kentucky I recommend finding a mate out side of your state, unless you want to risk blue kids. Evolution in action.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Jmorphman on June 07, 2010, 07:23:11 am
Now they did think until last year that we evolved from Chimps.
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure the general consensus has always been we only shared a common ancestor with chimps, not evolved from them.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Luis Alejandro on June 07, 2010, 07:24:09 am
eye wish my ancestors were yetis so eye can shoot eyesikels
was dat a black joke??

I ain't black i'm asian. you gay caucasian
nice rhyme  :D
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 07:25:37 am
@ Brak's. Let me rephrase. It was either we came from them or shared an ancestor, but now we know that we did not come from them, that theory has become total bunk.

Science did what it was supposed to do, and proved a theory wrong.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 07:33:31 am
Oh and who ever said that tempest's avatar proves intelligent design was wrong. It proves natural selection, because natural selection is a combination of environment, genetic isolation, and sexual selection.

Because of sexual selection, we will have more and more attractive people and people will make themselves look better as a breeding strategy.

If it was intelligent design, then people would get impregnated from hand shakes and only the superior dna desired by the creator would be passed and the bad mutations that we all have would not.

Tell a retarded person that they are intelligently designed and see how happy they are with their creator.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: kakkoii superhero on June 07, 2010, 10:47:00 am
common ancient ape -> the missing link -> african people (theory of evolution)

the rest of others races are children of atlantis
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on June 07, 2010, 11:04:13 am
I know what evolution is already, but I know it's not true.
Gorillas may look like us but, they don't have the intelligence we have.
You don't see apes' making clothes, finding ways to make energy...
Anyway, if they did evolve, why they still here? Wouldn't they all be humans because they have "evolved".

About the bacteria thing. That's a normal thing.
If you got punched in the face for the first time it's going to hurt like hell.
2nd time you might be able to deal with it better and punch the guy back.
After a few times you would be used to that pain and would be able to take a few more hits until you can't bare no more. Take boxers for example.
No normal person would be able to take 1 big punch and be able to stand up.
Boxers slowly learn how to cope with it and can endure several punches.

Anyway, what do you expect? I'm a christian, ofcourse I would disagree about evolution.
You're fucking stupid. You don't have to believe in one or the other, you are supposed to put the damn pieces together. That goes to everyone else as well.


Intelligent design exists. Look at basic protozoans.

Evolution exists. Look at fucking bacteria, like cyanide said.


and LOL, you comparing it to learning. Drink a little bit of antifreeze and see if you can adapt to that from learning.



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If I came out really tall and it was passed on from my dad that's not evolution because I haven't gained anything. Did I get any smarter, no. Did I get any stronger to viruses, no.

Yes it fucking is. Average height of a man has changed from 5'6" to at least 6' in a matter of 50 years. That's fucking evolution.

As for the last two things, while genetics DO affect intelligence and resistance to disease (or lack, thereof), environment also plays a huge role. Fail, gb2 /6thgradescience/.



Tell a retarded person that they are intelligently designed and see how happy they are with their creator.

Pretty damn happy I'd say because I don't think they know what the fuck you're- OOH TINFOIL!
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: SnowShingo on June 07, 2010, 11:18:04 am
people with minimal or no understanding of science or evolution arguing against it bring up the missing link like evolution works that way. evolution is not a straight line, it branches constantly. we literally have found hundreds of transitional fossils for all kinds of organisms, including humans. and having a common ancestor does not mean there was a single species of ape we evolved from. it means part of our genetic code shares traits similar to a species that lived hundreds of thousands of years ago, which is also shared by many other species of animals. we even share traits with early reptiles and amphibians. this doesn't mean we evolved from one species of snake, or frog. it simple means we share traits, however minor they may be.

Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 07, 2010, 12:08:40 pm
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We're not "ruining the environment," we're doing things that make the earth change so that it may maintain itself.
I said "ruining the environment that makes it possible to live" Also, i was poking fun at your comment just to show that if you use that argument it can apply to every creature on earth. Either they're eaten or killed by us, or make our lives miserable, or have nothing at all to do with us, any of those can be used as an argument for "lets get rid of them"

I did misread your comment about the environment by omitting the word "live."

I knew you were poking fun at my comment because it could be applied to every living thing on earth!  ;)
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: TsuKasa ´・ω・` on June 07, 2010, 12:24:25 pm
Now they did think until last year that we evolved from Chimps.
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure the general consensus has always been we only shared a common ancestor with chimps, not evolved from them.

I have read somewhere before that pig's internal organs are more compatible to humans than chimps and our closest cousins are not chimps but uhmm i forgot what creature it is but it lives underwater and looks alot like a transparent jelly.

to me the only perfect evolution is when HUMAN and STEEL combined to form the ultimate life form.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: kakkoii superhero on June 07, 2010, 01:21:11 pm
why don't cockroaches evolve into something like kamen rider?
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Black ★ Rock Shooter on June 07, 2010, 02:58:46 pm
Evolution is a mystery...
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 03:23:16 pm
why don't cockroaches evolve into something like kamen rider?

Because they are perfect the way they are now.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: K.O.D on June 07, 2010, 03:25:54 pm
The only perfect cockroach is a dead one. Bloody hate those little cunts.
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 03:39:52 pm
Evolution is a mystery...

Full of change that no one sees
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Chronan on June 07, 2010, 03:59:37 pm
Evolution is a mystery...

Full of change that no one sees
Both of you! Stop stealing my Christian defensive points!

The evolution I'm going to believe in is with my Pokemon. I agree that not all of them evolve in a straight line like Charizard, some branch off like Bellossom and Vileplume but they still share similar genetic traits. But how do we explain Eevee? You need God to explain it.

Oh and who ever said that tempest's avatar proves intelligent design was wrong. It proves natural selection, because natural selection is a combination of environment, genetic isolation, and sexual selection.

Because of sexual selection, we will have more and more attractive people and people will make themselves look better as a breeding strategy.

If it was intelligent design, then people would get impregnated from hand shakes and only the superior dna desired by the creator would be passed and the bad mutations that we all have would not.

Tell a retarded person that they are intelligently designed and see how happy they are with their creator.
On a more serious note. I hope that post wasn't serious!   :no:
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Rote Zaungast on June 07, 2010, 04:01:41 pm
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If it was intelligent design, then people would get impregnated from hand shakes and only the superior dna desired by the creator would be passed and the bad mutations that we all have would not.
I like how you think you totally grasped everything about an entity that you assume was here before you and everything

I also like how you took my post 100% seriously and tried to prove it wrong, I already knew that stuff
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: SnowShingo on June 07, 2010, 04:12:55 pm
The evolution I'm going to believe in is with my Pokemon. I agree that not all of them evolve in a straight line like Charizard, some branch off like Bellossom and Vileplume but they still share similar genetic traits. But how do we explain Eevee? You need God to explain it.

vaporeon, jolteon, flareon : altering of the genetic code through the power of rocks and science
espeon & umpreon : physical change largely dependent on emotional stability/instability, like how humans gain/lose weight when depressed
leafeon & glaceon : completely dependent on habitat and probably the only two of the group that come close to true evolution in the literal sense

 :afro:
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 04:14:25 pm
explain slowpoke's evolution.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: SnowShingo on June 07, 2010, 04:16:20 pm
k

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Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Mog on June 07, 2010, 04:30:39 pm
You dont need to go back than to look at women 100 years ago to notice adaptation and evolution applied to a species.

Or....  thats why goddess invented plastic surgery.

:bow:
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 07, 2010, 04:50:04 pm
k

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

You owe me a new pair of pants and cleaning fluid

But how do we explain Eevee? You need God to explain it.

Eevee is an allegory for the human race:

Espeon = Caucasians
Umbreon = Africans
Jolteon = Asians
Flareon = Arabs
Vaporeon = Hawaiians & Pacific Islanders
Glaceon = Eskimos
Leafeon = Native Americans

All of them descend from a common ancestor (Eevee)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: walt on June 07, 2010, 05:02:29 pm
latinamericans / hispanics don't exist from evee
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 07, 2010, 05:16:18 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objections_to_evolution
im pretty sure this was posted before when this topic was discussed.
I doubt most people will read it tho. Instead they will keep going on and on, because to them, science is about faith instead of knowledge. Darwin( that studied the world so that he would know more about God)  wept.

found an online clip from the simpsons episode I referenced:
http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/07/10/evolution-vs-creationism-simpsons-style/


Like jz said, you got to learn those things, not just "its the laws of man and thus not apply to me."

heck thats not better than
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bdtlNUlx4&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: SnowShingo on June 07, 2010, 05:29:08 pm
aronra is my favorite youtube personality on the subject of evolution :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su3whyjRe2Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su3whyjRe2Q)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 05:33:11 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objections_to_evolution
im pretty sure this was posted before when this topic was discussed.
I doubt most people will read it tho. Instead they will keep going on and on, because to them, science is about faith instead of knowledge. Darwin( that studied the world so that he would know more about God)  wept.

found an online clip from the simpsons episode I referenced:
http://religiousfreaks.com/2006/07/10/evolution-vs-creationism-simpsons-style/


Like jz said, you got to learn those things, not just "its the laws of man and thus not apply to me."

heck thats not better than
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bdtlNUlx4&feature=player_embedded
I don't need to learn anything.
Evolution is a theory and I don't what to "learn" about it because I know it's nonsense.
I believe that we were made by god and not evolved from apes or gorillas.

I'm not going to post here anymore because everyone here has ultimately decided on evolution being real. If I disagree then I'm apparently stupid or misinformed.
In my opinion your stupid and misinformed and believe evolution is the truth even though it's just a theory. There is no exact evidence, and you guys have never seen something "evolve" and no scientist has either. Your just saying it's real cause you found something that supports this theory.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: SnowShingo on June 07, 2010, 05:36:53 pm
I don't need to learn anything.
Evolution is a theory and I don't what to "learn" about it because I know it's nonsense.
I believe that we were made by god and not evolved from apes or gorillas.

I'm not going to post here anymore because everyone here has ultimately decided on evolution being real. If I disagree then I'm apparently stupid or misinformed.
In my opinion your stupid and misinformed and believe evolution is the truth even though it's just a theory. There is no exact evidence, and you guys have never seen something "evolve" and no scientist has either. Your just saying it's real cause you found something that supports this theory.

if you think evolution is bunk because it's "just a theory" then, yes, you are stupid and are either being intellectually dishonest or just completely ignorant.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 07, 2010, 05:38:10 pm
latinamericans / hispanics don't exist from evee

Latin Americans / Hispanics are covered under Leafeon (Native American), Umbreon (Africans) and Espeon (Europeans)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 07, 2010, 05:39:56 pm
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I don't need to learn anything.
Evolution is a theory and I don't what to "learn" about it because I know it's nonsense.
I believe that we were made by god and not evolved from apes or gorillas.

Naajj, thats not how science works. =C

Refer to the first link I gave, it replies exactly to that.
Gravity is itself also a theory. ( one that has way more holes and is far less studied and debunked).
You are using faith as an excuse to shield yourself from knowledge.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jmorphman on June 07, 2010, 05:43:01 pm
There is no exact evidence, and you guys have never seen something "evolve" and no scientist has either.
Well I guess MRSA doesn't exist then. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methicillin-resistant_Staphylococcus_aureus)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 07, 2010, 05:45:30 pm
I don't need to learn anything.
Evolution is a theory and I don't what to "learn" about it because I know it's nonsense.
I believe that we were made by god and not evolved from apes or gorillas.

I'm going to respond to that with the same counter argument I always bring up whenever someone prefers to believe that the world was created in 7 days over us descending from apes:

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If God is infinite and can do whatever the fuck he wants, how do you know evolution isn't the vehicle by which God created man?

Lets see him try to debunk that. And "God did not use evolution because evolution is not in the bible" is not a valid excuse because dinosaurs aren't in the bible either.

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Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: SnowShingo on June 07, 2010, 05:46:49 pm
also, there has been visible proof of evolution in progress, that has been witnessed by scientists : http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/07/060714-evolution.html (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/07/060714-evolution.html)

Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 05:48:05 pm
how is evolution, knowledge?
I'm not shielding myself I just think it's not right.
Thats the problem with you type of people, you don't like it if someone disagrees.
Because you got this so called "evidence" I'm regarded as dumb.
First of, I need a lot more proof to actually think evolution is right.
Just because we look a little like gorillas, just because families pass down features and just because bacteria can defend it's self from certain poison after a few weeks isn't enough. Your just thinking it's true because of a few things. You don't actually know it's true.

For instance, a guy thought man was stronger then women. We know this is true because we've tested there strength in different things. Eg. Lifting the same weights.

Don't use the excuse of shielding because I'm not. In my opinion I think it's not true cause there's not enough evidence. Same with believing in god, you guys think god is not real due to lack of evidence but, I do. We have different opnions.
Thats normal.

'Kay?

I don't need to learn anything.
Evolution is a theory and I don't what to "learn" about it because I know it's nonsense.
I believe that we were made by god and not evolved from apes or gorillas.

I'm going to respond to that with the same counter argument I always bring up whenever someone prefers to believe that the world was created in 7 days over us descending from apes:

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If God is infinite and can do whatever the fuck he wants, how do you know evolution isn't the vehicle by which God created man?

Lets see him try to debunk that. And "God did not use evolution because evolution is not in the bible" is not a valid excuse because dinosaurs aren't in the bible either.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
The funny thing is, in the bible it says there were giants back then. Dinosaurs could easily be the giants.

About the other thing, how am i supposed to respond to that?
God created animals when he made the world and adam and eve are obviously not animals cause in the bible there is no saying of them being one of the many animals
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 07, 2010, 05:49:23 pm
Don't use the excuse of shielding because I'm not. In my opinion I think it's not true cause there's not enough evidence. Same with believing in god, you guys think god is not real due to lack of evidence but, I do. We have different opnions.
Thats normal.

'Kay?

Evolution does not disprove the existence of God. Read my last post.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: SnowShingo on June 07, 2010, 05:53:17 pm
'Kay?

i doubt you've even taken the time to read, watch, or listen to anything that's been brought up to you. also, despite everything else, believing in evolution does not mean that anyone has to disbelieve in god, or vice versa.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jmorphman on June 07, 2010, 05:53:46 pm
just because bacteria can defend it's self from certain poison after a few weeks isn't enough.
That isn't what happens. What happens is that some bacteria have a mutation in their genome that makes them resistant to an antibiotic; that antibiotic is used and kills all the bacteria without this mutation, and the surviving bacteria pass down their mutant genes to their offspring. You end up with bacteria that has developed a resistance to an antibiotic; this is evolution. There is no debating that this happens.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 05:56:06 pm
Don't use the excuse of shielding because I'm not. In my opinion I think it's not true cause there's not enough evidence. Same with believing in god, you guys think god is not real due to lack of evidence but, I do. We have different opnions.
Thats normal.

'Kay?

Evolution does not disprove the existence of God. Read my last post.
Never said it did  :P
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 07, 2010, 06:03:09 pm
God is fake.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Mog on June 07, 2010, 06:04:23 pm
God is fake.

goddess is not.

:bow:
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 06:05:20 pm
God is fake.
Same with evolution.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 07, 2010, 06:05:37 pm
k

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

You owe me a new pair of pants and cleaning fluid

But how do we explain Eevee? You need God to explain it.

Eevee is an allegory for the human race:

Espeon = Caucasians
Umbreon = Africans
Jolteon = Asians
Flareon = Arabs
Vaporeon = Hawaiians & Pacific Islanders
Glaceon = Eskimos
Leafeon = Native Americans

All of them descend from a common ancestor (Eevee)
The mammoth goes to africa and turns into a'n elephant. Isn't this comon knowlledge? And glaceon = russians.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: SnowShingo on June 07, 2010, 06:19:24 pm
Same with evolution.

my question is how you can put so much faith behind a book that was written 2000 years ago with no supporting evidence by men in the name of a god, over the countless years of research, evaluation, and peer-review that went into, and continues to go into, evolution? is the unsupported and unproven idea that an omnipotent being crafted the earth in six days (with the rest of the universe made beforehand in considerably less time) easier to believe that the proven facts that we share a common ancestor with other mammals?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 07, 2010, 06:20:50 pm
God is fake.
Same with evolution.

Evolution is real. God is fake.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 07, 2010, 07:17:43 pm
Evolution is fake. God is real.
:)

Same with evolution.

my question is how you can put so much faith behind a book that was written 2000 years ago with no supporting evidence by men in the name of a god, over the countless years of research, evaluation, and peer-review that went into, and continues to go into, evolution? is the unsupported and unproven idea that an omnipotent being crafted the earth in six days (with the rest of the universe made beforehand in considerably less time) easier to believe that the proven facts that we share a common ancestor with other mammals?
lol
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Epic Winnery on June 07, 2010, 07:28:24 pm
I heard that the bible's predictions were right on more often than Nostradamus
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 08:19:16 pm
nostradamus ain't real and anyone who believes in pre-destined stuff are idiots. what's the point of living if your life has a pre-determined course.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Anjel on June 07, 2010, 08:24:47 pm
Evolution is real. God is fake.

HIDDEN TEXT HERE==>Hail Satan!
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 07, 2010, 08:40:58 pm
Evolution is real. God is fake.

Evolution is fake. God is fake.

Evolution is fake. God is real.

Evolution is real. God is real.

Any of those is correct

believing in evolution does not mean that anyone has to disbelieve in god, or vice versa.
Evolution does not disprove the existence of God.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 07, 2010, 08:45:55 pm
None of the Above.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ALTERNATECHAR on June 07, 2010, 09:04:32 pm
nostradamus ain't real and anyone who believes in pre-destined stuff are idiots. what's the point of living if your life has a pre-determined course.
thats why i'm a rebel...

but really...if evolution is wrong...what is mutation then...
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Hero on June 07, 2010, 09:12:14 pm
In 999999999 years no one can say "I had seek a Monkey transform into a Human or whatever". If u have faith wich Darwin has seek that, u believe in Science as ur god.


And never is negated which evolution is a fake.

Mutation is a forced change, with external agents.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: SnowShingo on June 07, 2010, 09:15:23 pm
In 999999999 years no one can say "I had seek a Monkey transform into a Human or whatever".


because that's not how evolution works. jesus christ, pay attention in science class people.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on June 07, 2010, 09:15:24 pm
@RicePigeon: I love how I am totally ignored, being the first to say something along those lines.


Evolution is fake. God is real.
:)

Same with evolution.

my question is how you can put so much faith behind a book that was written 2000 years ago with no supporting evidence by men in the name of a god, over the countless years of research, evaluation, and peer-review that went into, and continues to go into, evolution? is the unsupported and unproven idea that an omnipotent being crafted the earth in six days (with the rest of the universe made beforehand in considerably less time) easier to believe that the proven facts that we share a common ancestor with other mammals?
lol

This just proves you're getting scared and desperate. You laugh because you are nervous.

how is evolution, knowledge?
I'm not shielding myself I just think it's not right.
Thats the problem with you type of people, you don't like it if someone disagrees.
Because you got this so called "evidence" I'm regarded as dumb.
First of, I need a lot more proof to actually think evolution is right.
Just because we look a little like gorillas, just because families pass down features and just because bacteria can defend it's self from certain poison after a few weeks isn't enough. Your just thinking it's true because of a few things. You don't actually know it's true.
No, we do. It seems clear you haven't been taking in a word of what we say.

For instance, a guy thought man was stronger then women. We know this is true because we've tested there strength in different things. Eg. Lifting the same weights.
And why do you think that is? Oh, wait. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDqlwrFupyU)

Don't use the excuse of shielding because I'm not. In my opinion I think it's not true cause there's not enough evidence. Same with believing in god, you guys think god is not real due to lack of evidence but, I do. We have different opnions.
Thats normal.

Who said this in a serious manner and gave evidence (or lack, thereof) because I sure as hell haven't seen it and I sure as hell am not one of those people. I believe in the existence of a god who designed the basic parts (there is NO WAY that the mechanics involved in basic organisms just fell into fucking place out of chance; I already made a post on this a few months ago in another topic). I refer you ONCE AGAIN, to RicePigeon's post for:

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THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE IS NOT THE EVIDENCE OF ABSENCE


Fucking piece it together and stop lying to yourselves; that doesn't just go to you, but to every other fucking idiot who thinks evolution and creationism are solely black and white and you either take it or leave it. PIECE. IT. TOGETHER. Or do I need to spell it out for you? Because I will.


I don't need to learn anything.
Evolution is a theory and I don't what to "learn" about it because I know it's nonsense.
I believe that we were made by god and not evolved from apes or gorillas.

I'm going to respond to that with the same counter argument I always bring up whenever someone prefers to believe that the world was created in 7 days over us descending from apes:

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If God is infinite and can do whatever the fuck he wants, how do you know evolution isn't the vehicle by which God created man?

Lets see him try to debunk that. And "God did not use evolution because evolution is not in the bible" is not a valid excuse because dinosaurs aren't in the bible either.

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The funny thing is, in the bible it says there were giants back then. Dinosaurs could easily be the giants.

About the other thing, how am i supposed to respond to that?
God created animals when he made the world and adam and eve are obviously not animals cause in the bible there is no saying of them being one of the many animals

GOOD, YOU'RE STARTING TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. NOW THAT SHOWS YOU HAVE SOME INTELLIGENCE TO START PIECING IT TOGETHER!
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Hero on June 07, 2010, 09:18:56 pm
In 999999999 years no one can say "I had seek a Monkey transform into a Human or whatever".


because that's not how evolution works. jesus christ, pay attention in science class people.
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It`s a short way of say "evolution", no that is digievolution, LOL

Yeah, i know ehat is evolution. When the ecosystem changes, in millions of years the body`s structure slowly changes to be able to survive in the new place.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on June 07, 2010, 09:20:42 pm
why the hell are you using ` instead of '?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 07, 2010, 09:28:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su3whyjRe2Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su3whyjRe2Q)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Foobs on June 07, 2010, 10:57:22 pm
Thats the problem with you type of people, you don't like it if someone disagrees.
Because you got this so called "evidence" I'm regarded as dumb.
No, we think you're dumb because you replied with stupid gnorant shit instead of facts on why is evolution fake.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 07, 2010, 11:02:34 pm
On a unrelated note, who has ever read Origin of Species? If so do you regard it as circumstantial evidence that seems to be consistent with what can be observed?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 11:04:55 pm
It was required reading for me. Besides the parts that Darwin didn't understand, but now we know, it is freaking amazingly accurate.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 07, 2010, 11:08:02 pm
I'm not concerned with that, how did you feel after you read it?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 11:17:24 pm
I felt the same way a kid feels when he is told that Santa and Easter Buddy do not exist.

That, and I was blown away by how simple and logical natural selection is. I say blown away, because on the surface it all seems so complicated yet the truth is, it is as simple and logical as sine wave or physical geography.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 07, 2010, 11:23:38 pm
So because it seemed logical you replaced your current view with the one that appealed to your emotion?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 11:31:34 pm
No I replaced something I had suspected as false with something logical, and that produced an emotional response.

And the first time I switched up I was not harsh, I was what so called "Real Atheist" refer to as a "Soft Atheist" because I originally had ideas or a view point that there was nothing wrong with religion or religions and I also and still consider myself an agnostic. I even went as far a playing with other religions in the hopes of finding a replacement and my view was, "Religion doesn't hurt anything"

After witnessing the effects of religion on science, free thinking, and recent wars I have taken an anti-organized religion stand point and that became even more hardened by learning about the origins of religion. Namely government control and stratification of wealth and slavery.

You could say that all of that stemmed from doubt and reading Darwin. Although, I'm actually still considered a soft Atheist or fake Atheist by others.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 07, 2010, 11:33:46 pm
Logical? How where you trained in logic?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 11:37:08 pm
I do not understand the question?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 07, 2010, 11:38:22 pm
I do not understand the question?

Have you received any training in Formal and/or Informal Logic?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 07, 2010, 11:46:54 pm
That question is illogical.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 07, 2010, 11:47:12 pm
good try.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 11:49:16 pm
You mean philosophy. No I've never had any training in philosophy but I am well read in terms of philosophy but my own philosophical bias has limited me to the people that I usually would agree with.

I'm a science guy, not a theologian. If it can be observed than it can be measured, if it can be measured then it is can be tested, if a theory resists all measurable tests, then it stands until new data is acquired that disproves the theory or a better test is devised.

That is the logic of an academic. The closest I come to theology and philosophy is analyzing statistical data.

Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 07, 2010, 11:50:12 pm
not philosophy, Logic. Do you know what logic is?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 11:58:12 pm
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Logic (from the Greek λογική logikē) is the study of reasoning. Logic is used in most intellectual activity, but is studied primarily in the disciplines of philosophy, mathematics, and computer science.

But you said

Informal Logic which as far as I care is nothing more than philosophy. I do not put stock in informal logic.

If you are asking me if I had logic training, as in Math and computer science, then of course at the undergrad college level (So far)

So all that is left is philosophy. Would that not be logical?

Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 08, 2010, 12:00:51 am
bad definition. If logic is only studied through math, philosophy, and computer science, how was darwin's book logical?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 12:04:09 am
lol Good job.

I look in both directions and think, "how the fuck did I just paint myself into a corner?"

Now maybe we can go back on topic.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 08, 2010, 12:15:39 am
Haven't made my point. So have you been trained in logic, both formal and informal? The former only concerned with it's build, or FORMation. And the latter concernedwith objective fact. They are together, meaning if you know 1 you know the other. 
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 12:57:59 am
I have already answered your questions. (Nice cop tactic)

Logically, you haven't made your point because you have only asked questions? Your questions are not even rhetorical.

At this point, you should either make your point or stop playing 20 questions. How is that for logic?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2010, 01:02:09 am
His personal text explains it all.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2010, 01:06:53 am
You don't need to be trained in logic to be logical.

If my super glue sticks 2 pieces of wood together, logically i can affix a 3rd piece of wood. Illogical would then be taking said super glue and using it as a lubricant.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Mog on June 08, 2010, 01:11:56 am
I love threads like this.

:bow:
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 08, 2010, 01:13:45 am
I love threads like this.

:bow:
Threads like this should be banned and never spoke of again! (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115604.0)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 01:20:26 am
I love threads like this.

:bow:
Threads like this should be banned and never spoke of again! (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115604.0)
Agreed.
Can't believe I'm being called dumb, misinformed and unintelligent just because I think evolution is wrong. Seriously, you guys are pathetic.

And if I do respond with something truthful then you go post a stupid christianity spoof.
I'm allowed to think what I want to just like people are allowed to believe in religion or not. It's called opinion, and if you guys can't handle it then call me dumb all you want.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: thoraxglycerin on June 08, 2010, 01:21:59 am
I love threads like this.

:bow:
Threads like this should be banned and never spoke of again! (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115604.0)
Agreed.
Can't believe I'm being called dumb, misinformed and unintelligent just because I think evolution is wrong. Seriously, you guys are pathetic.
and so is everything else, yes that guy in front of my mirror, too :P
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jmorphman on June 08, 2010, 01:25:20 am
Can't believe I'm being called dumb, misinformed and unintelligent just because I think evolution is wrong. Seriously, you guys are pathetic.
Is it really so hard to believe? Because you are being dumb, misinformed, and unintelligent because you are ignoring the plethora of evidence in favor of evolution.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 08, 2010, 01:26:30 am
I have already answered your questions. (Nice cop tactic)

Logically, you haven't made your point because you have only asked questions? Your questions are not even rhetorical.

At this point, you should either make your point or stop playing 20 questions. How is that for logic?

Socratic Method, you'll see what I have to say after you've answered all I need to know to make my point. Now answer the question.

@Cybaster

Correct, however when somebody uses the word logical, I'm going to assume he knows what it is, and for that to be possible he'd need some kind of training be it from a third party or himself.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 08, 2010, 01:26:49 am
Agreed.
Can't believe I'm being called dumb, misinformed and unintelligent just because I think evolution is wrong. Seriously, you guys are pathetic.

And if I do respond with something truthful then you go post a stupid christianity spoof.
I'm allowed to think what I want to just like people are allowed to believe in religion or not. It's called opinion, and if you guys can't handle it then call me dumb all you want.
I was...it was sarca... :'(
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 01:28:48 am
I knew you were being sarcastic.
But I don't like threads like this.

Can't believe I'm being called dumb, misinformed and unintelligent just because I think evolution is wrong. Seriously, you guys are pathetic.
Is it really so hard to believe? Because you are being dumb, misinformed, and unintelligent because you are ignoring the plethora of evidence in favor of evolution.
I could say the same for religion and other things.
I'm not ignoring anything, I just think it's not right. I think it's a silly theory just like the big bang theory. You got a problem? And stop being so defensive.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 08, 2010, 01:30:00 am
You know that no one is forced to participate. And I think you could tell by the first post that there was going to be a lot of anger and name calling in this thread.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2010, 01:31:07 am
In addition, your reasoning to it not being possible is "It's not right" doesn't sit well with anyone. Your whole argument has been utterly blind "no" nobody thinks complete denial is smart.

Provide some scientific examples of evolution being complete bollocks if you want us to take you seriously. So far the only thing in favour of it not working (without replacing it with anything sensible) has been that page posted earlier refuting ONE books interpretation. Now, i will not discount intelligent design happening, i just don't think it created us, or the animals around us as they are now.

Also. I AM NOT CYBASTER!!!!
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: c00p on June 08, 2010, 01:33:37 am
you are ignoring the plethora of evidence in favor of evolution.
are you talking about microevolution, macroevolution, or the evolution+big bang combo as a way to explain the origin of life on earth? 'cos there isn't a 'plethora' of information of the 3
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 01:39:24 am
@ Nnaajj

Calling you stupid is not accurate. You are something far worse, proven by the following quote.

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Evolution is a theory and I don't what to "learn" about it because I know it's nonsense.

You are obstinate.

@ Coop.  There is a fossil record with about a dozen missing links (So far), dna testing and comparison between animals, and constant observations of natural selection.

That is more evidence than gravity, yet we flew to the moon and back with less evidence.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 01:52:20 am
^
I didn't even mean to say that.
That makes me look like I'm denying evolution when I'm not.
Should of never said that cause now your using it against me...

Anyway, I don't think there's enough evidence to prove evolution is right and I think it's ridicolous how we can originate from monkeys. I think animals can change due to adaption to an enviroment but thats it.

If you can't take that then your stupid. Many people don't believe in my religion but, I'm fine with that. It's there choice and everyone is entitled to an opinion. I think there is more evidence that god is real than evolution and I've experienced things you would think was a childs tale.

Evolution is not knowledge. It's a theory.
There is evidence and there is evidence against it.
Here is an intresting article:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evolution%20Hoax/evolution_is_stupid.htm
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Mog on June 08, 2010, 01:53:10 am
  FES   (http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/)    also debunking "theories". 

:bow:
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2010, 01:55:45 am
Microevolution we can prove.
Macro evolution which although not precisely proven has been observed to SOME extent purely in breeding. If you can breed traits to look/act differently from the original animal that's evolution.

Big bang+evolution. Meh, faith. In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. Or, in the beginning there was everything, which exploded. Those are 2 options. The other is In the beginning there was the Creator. Who did everything. We have no proof in ANY way that any of this happened, so it's all theory. Something started us off. Could have been a beard in the sky, could have been a fluke. It's not important or possible to replicate. The other 2 can. If you're willing to watch one complex life form for 2 million years anyway.

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I think animals can change due to adaption to an enviroment but thats it.
That's evolution dude. Apply that change over 40 million years. The dinosaurs died out 64million years ago. I'm being generous. You don't think over that period of time that it's possible creatures THEN look nothing like creatures now?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 02:00:57 am
Nnaajj

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Evolution is not knowledge. It's a theory.

So is gravity, once again, we made it to the moon using calculations based on these theories. Science only makes theories. In never assumes proof except proof that says that a theory is wrong.

The theory that all the animals on this planet suddenly appeared has been disproved.

Also, if something adapts to the environment, then it has evolved. Unless you are talking about lungs getting stronger in a high altitude over time or something similar.

You just said that you do and don't believe in evolution in the same sentence and wonder why people are questioning your intelligence and reason.

Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Foobs on June 08, 2010, 02:02:26 am
That article is exactly the same  shit you have been posting during the last pages.
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Furthermore, if we evolved from a lower species, then why is it that the apes didn't evolve in the evolutionary process?
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Evolution is for stupid people, stupid because they refuse to acknowledge the Word of God in their life.  There is NO WAY you can believe the Bible and evolution.

Not only that, but it's extremely arrogant christian garbage

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Further, the Bible is the ONLY book on the face of this earth which addresses the sinfulness of mankind and our need for a Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.  It's been said that man wouldn't write the Bible if he could, and couldn't if he would.  There is no book which even compares.  The Qur'an contains NO prophecy.  The Qur'an is obviously biased against Christians and Jews.  The Word of God is not biased against anyone. 
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 08, 2010, 02:03:19 am
I'm waiting.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 02:05:02 am
Nnaajj

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Evolution is not knowledge. It's a theory.

So is gravity, once again, we made it to the moon using calculations based on these theories. Science only makes theories. In never assumes proof except proof that says that a theory is wrong.

The theory that all the animals on this planet suddenly appeared has been disproved.

Also, if something adapts to the environment, then it has evolved. Unless you are talking about lungs getting stronger in a high altitude over time or something similar.

You just said that you do and don't believe in evolution in the same sentence and wonder why people are questioning your intelligence and reason.
Yeah thats what I'm talking about. Stronger lungs would be what I call adaption.
Turning into something new isn't what I would call adaption.

That article is exactly the same  shit you have been posting during the last pages.
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Furthermore, if we evolved from a lower species, then why is it that the apes didn't evolve in the evolutionary process?
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Evolution is for stupid people, stupid because they refuse to acknowledge the Word of God in their life.  There is NO WAY you can believe the Bible and evolution.

Not only that, but it's extremely arrogant christian garbage

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Further, the Bible is the ONLY book on the face of this earth which addresses the sinfulness of mankind and our need for a Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.  It's been said that man wouldn't write the Bible if he could, and couldn't if he would.  There is no book which even compares.  The Qur'an contains NO prophecy.  The Qur'an is obviously biased against Christians and Jews.  The Word of God is not biased against anyone. 
ROFL Look who's calling me ignorant.
And what's that quote got anything to do on the subject.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: TempesT on June 08, 2010, 02:07:53 am
You must have a very sheltered Christian life to really believe anything on a site called "Jesus-is-savior.com" is an objective look on this matter.

You really are ignorant and saying "look who's calling me ignorant" doesn't even make sense to the person you're talking to because Cyan Paul is actually smart.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 08, 2010, 02:08:17 am
Fuck off already.

Shouldn't he get a warning for something like this?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: TempesT on June 08, 2010, 02:09:06 am
Probably.

Keep it classy.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 08, 2010, 02:09:34 am
Because I got a warning for calling somebody a Turkey.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on June 08, 2010, 02:09:35 am
Not when it's to someone who really has no importance and makes his trolling too obvious.

short spurts of retort

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o19/Yesujira/woody_umad.png)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 02:10:19 am
You must have a very sheltered Christian life to really believe anything on a site called "Jesus-is-savior.com" is an objective look on this matter.

You really are ignorant and saying "look who's calling me ignorant" doesn't even make sense to the person you're talking to because Cyan Paul is actually smart.
Not saying I believed anything. See, proves my point on you guys sometimes putting words in my mouth.

And according to you, anyone who believes in evolution is smart?
Imagine if evolution wasn't even true, who would be smart then?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on June 08, 2010, 02:10:58 am
:|
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: TempesT on June 08, 2010, 02:11:54 am
You believe that evolution is wrong (that's you believing in something). If you think that is fact, then you ARE as dumb as people are telling you and have been telling you.

I'm also saying that people who are actually objective and stay objective in a matter like this are the ones who are smart. Way to do what you just accused me of doing.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: 8-Bit Mr. A on June 08, 2010, 02:12:17 am
I'm done
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 02:16:27 am
Nnaajj. It isn't something new. Every single baby is something new according to evolution and proven as much as can be with DNA.

If my family members keep passing on lighter skin genes to there children. Lighter skin being a random mutation. And we live in a cloud cover snow glacier that hardly has sun light. Then my family will live better in that environment the the other dark people that can't absorb as much vitamin d. All the black guys die young because of disease and the white mutation takes over.

That is how you got white people in a very short amount of time.

If there was isolation from other humans for a couple of million years, there would be so many other mutations that the descendant of the black people and the white people wouldn't even be able to breed and would become to different species.

Which is what happened with us and Chimpanzee. Two groups of primates, (Not monkeys) were separated for millions of years and both adapted to their environment differently according to random mutations which made them more successful breeders than their parents and they kept on changing until on is now us and the other is now chimpanzee. 

Why do you think we have giraffe? It is the same thing as a deer really, but obviously they were separated and in Africa, the deer with the longer necks were more successful breeders and grew longer necks. Most likely a drought or something that made only the taller trees have food, so only the family of deer that had long necks were eating, then that kept on happening until you have giraffe.

Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 02:16:41 am
I'm tired of you people. I'm allowed to have my own opinion and if you don't like it then you are the dumb one. You can't take it that I decide to think different from the average person. I'm not going to post any more shit here cause you people refuse to let me have my own view on this whole matter.
All of you are pathetic, like I said before.

And here's something intresting:
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The fact that the "theory" of evolution is missing a critical link (the "missing link") should speak volumes as to the credibility of such a wild theory.  The "missing link" is the Neanderthal man (the ape man).  There is simply NO evidence of such theories.  The few skeletal remains which have been dug up and claimed to be prehistoric could easily be the fossil remains of modern men.  Bone structure also varies from one ethnic background to another.  It is very possible to dig up a skeleton with more rounded bones (which is more common in African anatomy).  This is NO evidence of evolution, but of variances in human anatomy.  East Asian people (such as China) have very unique facial features which are more pronounced.  Evolutionists have not discovered a Neanderthal man!  You can believe anything if you repeat it to yourself long enough.  Many people want to believe evolution because it relives them of the horrifying possibility that there might actually be a holy God watching how we live.  Whether you believe there is a God or not, the thought of both possibilities is very freighting.  I believe in God.

Nnaajj. It isn't something new. Every single baby is something new according to evolution and proven as much as can be with DNA.

If my family members keep passing on lighter skin genes to there children. Lighter skin being a random mutation. And we live in a cloud cover snow glacier that hardly has sun light. Then my family will live better in that environment the the other dark people that can't absorb as much vitamin d. All the black guys die young because of disease and the white mutation takes over.
What I find funny is black people actually can take the sun easier than a white person so it's kind of the reverse. But wtf do you mean by black men dieing young?
Theres many black people who will live longer than most white people.
Thats a really stupid way to look on things.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: TempesT on June 08, 2010, 02:17:41 am
What the hell? Ok, now you're submitting your case as opinion instead of fact and we're the pathetic ones? At least stick to your goddamn guns instead of backing down like a wimp.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on June 08, 2010, 02:17:57 am
Opinion? No, you're in denial.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Foobs on June 08, 2010, 02:21:17 am
If evolution is proved wrong, I'll admit it move on with my life. If on the contrary, it was proved truth finding the missing link or whatever is needed, you would rage and stick to your own beliefs, discarting reason and facts.

Who's pathetic then?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 02:21:33 am
What the hell? Ok, now you're submitting your case as opinion instead of fact and we're the pathetic ones? At least stick to your goddamn guns instead of backing down like a wimp.
Your the wimp, can't take it that I have a different view, aye?
I'm not supposed to believe in everything you say, same goes to you.
I like drum 'n bass, you probably don't and your allowed to.
This rule dosen't change when we talk about the case of evolution.

Opinion? No, you're in denial.
lol
Your in denial just like TempesT and others.

If evolution is proved wrong, I'll admit it move on with my life. If on the contrary, it was proved truth finding the missing link or whatever is needed, you would rage and stick to your own beliefs, discarting reason and facts.

Who's pathetic then?
If it was true I would stop ranting about evolution not being real and move on.
lol
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jmorphman on June 08, 2010, 02:22:38 am
Ugh, this is like arguing with a twelve-year-old.


OH WAIT
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: TempesT on June 08, 2010, 02:23:40 am
LOL @ "no u" 
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 02:24:08 am
You didn't read what I said. If you are black in freaking Ice age you will die young. It is called rickets and is caused by not getting enough Vitamin D in your diet or from the sun.

So the black people turn white to adapt to an environment where they have to wear a shit load of clothes because of cold, and absorbed enough vitamin D from only their hands and face that they do not get rickets.

Unless they are like the Eskimo and eat enough fish to get the vitamin D. Even then, there is an illness that happens in winter, that causes Eskimo to go outside in the dead of winter naked and freeze to death, because their bodies crave sunlight and there is not to be found.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on June 08, 2010, 02:25:51 am
What am I denying, again?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 08, 2010, 02:27:24 am
Quote
Many people want to believe evolution because it relives them of the horrifying possibility that there might actually be a holy God watching how we live.  Whether you believe there is a God or not, the thought of both possibilities is very freighting.  I believe in God.
This doesnt make a lick of sense.
You are trying to show a "scientific" piece of evidence capped with someone trying to tie evolution into faith and thus into religion, and then exclaiming that they believe in God, as if that proves that their intentions are thus correct.
And it says God, instead of bible thats where you and him would read this stuff, the same place that tells you that its forbidden to eat shellfish and that you cant touch women if they are menstruating.

Dont be silly you are basing your scientific views ON THE WRONG BOOK. The right one is the EDDAS.
The origin of life is well documented. From the formless mists emerged ymir the frost giant. He was suckled by the great cow audhumbla , who licked salt and hoarfrost from the ice.The God Odin slew Ymir and made the world from his corpse, his eyebrows form the bounds of midgard, the home of men and all the mighty beasts and scenery within.

Midgard was surrounded by an enormous ocean. Odin, Vili and Vé gave lands along the coasts to the friendlier Giants, the Etin, for their settlements. From two trees they created a human man and woman. Odin gave the man and the woman spirit and life. Vili gave them understanding and the power of movement. Vé gave them clothing and names. The man was named Ask [Ash] and the woman Embla [Elm]. Ask and Embla are the ancestors of all humans in Midgard.

The Ash and the Elm are the noble originators of humanity. The rest you say is blasphemy.

Thorites have a closer relationship with earth and are more knowleadgeable of its roots, so is written in the Eddas.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 02:30:01 am
What am I denying, again?
That I don't believe in evolution.

You didn't read what I said. If you are black in freaking Ice age you will die young. It is called rickets and is caused by not getting enough Vitamin D in your diet or from the sun.

So the black people turn white to adapt to an environment where they have to wear a shit load of clothes because of cold, and absorbed enough vitamin D from only their hands and face that they do not get rickets.

Unless they are like the Eskimo and eat enough fish to get the vitamin D. Even then, there is an illness that happens in winter, that causes Eskimo to go outside in the dead of winter naked and freeze to death, because their bodies crave sunlight and there is not to be found.
You can't just turn white, the people who were eskimos were obviously white before.
Also, you have no proof they were evolved black people.

Ugh, this is like arguing with a twelve-year-old.


OH WAIT
sup mr.defensive
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 02:32:20 am
Here Nnaajj

I want you to notice something about skin color. This no longer applies because of our better diets and because we are no longer separated genetically so because of breeding a smaller world, it is harder to evolve.

But this is why we have different skin colors.

(http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/ylighting/solarbud-hours-map.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/Map_of_skin_hue_equi3.png)

Notice anything about UV radiation and the correlation it has with skin color?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 02:35:27 am
^
But you have no proof there ancestors had evolved and then passed the genes...
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on June 08, 2010, 02:36:55 am
HEAD → DESK


THE VANS BNB. LEARN IT; IT'S IMPORTANT.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 02:37:02 am
And we do have proof that we came from black people. It is call dna

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve)

See women pass mitochondrial dna to their female offspring, and you trace every human back to the mitochondrial eve, who was a black african woman. Read the wiki page.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Titiln on June 08, 2010, 02:42:55 am
i don't know why you're all bothering with nnnnajjj
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 02:43:21 am
HEAD → DESK


THE VANS BNB. LEARN IT; IT'S IMPORTANT.
haha no

And we do have proof that we came from black people. It is call dna

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve)

See women pass mitochondrial dna to their female offspring, and you trace every human back to the mitochondrial eve, who was a black african woman. Read the wiki page.
But that is also agreeing with christianity which disagrees with evolution.
Adam and eve were made by god and if eve made nearly everyone then that makes sense. But there off spring evolving into white people dosen't.

i don't know why you're all bothering with nnnnajjj
Don't know why you bother being an admin.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on June 08, 2010, 02:44:15 am
take it with a grain of salt, ned.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 02:46:27 am
lol. Except that people were around before Eve and she died before Adam was ever born

There was a volcano that made us an endangered species and that is where Eve came from, they call it a bottle neck.

Something similar happened latter with Adam.

So yeah, that is just like the story in the bible, or maybe we used those names from the bible lol.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 02:48:29 am
And on the 6th day, god made Eve and then a thousand years later he made Adam. And dead ass eve the grandmother of Adam ate the forbidden fruit. Blah blah blah.

Not the same.

Also, the story of Noah would be considered a bottle neck, so that must be like the volcano.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 02:49:46 am
Ok then I don't undestand what that shit even means.

take it with a grain of salt, ned.
:no:
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 08, 2010, 02:51:27 am
i don't know why you're all bothering with nnnnajjj
I was about to say.. Nnaajj is avoiding replies like dodging bullets in matrix. Please stop waisting your time on him. Even if you put something reasonnable in hes face, he will avoid it.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 02:53:35 am
There is still good in him.

I can feel it. I can bring him back to the good side.

Because... Because he is my Father. 
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Titiln on June 08, 2010, 02:54:23 am
Ok then I don't undestand what that shit even means.
this thread is proof that you don't understand a lot of things
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 02:57:33 am
i don't know why you're all bothering with nnnnajjj
I was about to say.. Nnaajj is avoiding replies like dodging bullets in matrix. Please stop waisting your time on him. Even if you put something reasonnable in hes face, he will avoid it.
I've answered back to every reply against me.
Don't even try dat shit cause you know I've been taking peoples comments and saying what I think on the matter.
Who the fuck are you anyway?

Ok then I don't undestand what that shit even means.
this thread is proof that you don't understand a lot of things
Your insults are getting old.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Titiln on June 08, 2010, 03:04:56 am
I've answered back to every reply against me.
my question is how you can put so much faith behind a book that was written 2000 years ago with no supporting evidence by men in the name of a god, over the countless years of research, evaluation, and peer-review that went into, and continues to go into, evolution? is the unsupported and unproven idea that an omnipotent being crafted the earth in six days (with the rest of the universe made beforehand in considerably less time) easier to believe that the proven facts that we share a common ancestor with other mammals?
lol
lol
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rote Zaungast on June 08, 2010, 03:06:07 am
who in their right mind would use the matrix to describe a situation as bad as this

next time please use a most recent famous event, such as bush vs shoes
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 03:08:04 am
Oh no. Nnaajj might be as fast as Neo, but no one is as fast as a Neo-conservative.

I have been waiting forever to make a Matrix Neo-conservative joke and I finally got my chance.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 08, 2010, 03:11:23 am
Oh no. Nnaajj might be as fast as Neo, but no one is as fast as a Neo-conservative.

I have been waiting forever to make a Matrix Neo-conservative joke and I finally got my chance.
No. You see.. Nnaajj is actually mr Smith and.. Well.. Me and titiln have the matrix inside of us and we can see him. We can also fly.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 03:12:18 am
I only found bitter nothings joke funny.
But good effort guys.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 08, 2010, 03:14:18 am
I only found bitter nothings joke funny.
But good effort guys.
* picks up the phone *. I know your hiding. And i will find you. * hangs up *. * FLYS AWAY!1!! *.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jmorphman on June 08, 2010, 03:18:28 am
But that is also agreeing with christianity which disagrees with evolution.
Oh yes, I forgot the part of the bible that says "OH YEAH AND BE SURE TO TAKE GENESIS AS A LITERAL ORIGIN OF THE UNIVERSE. ALSO EVOLUTION IS WRONG."

Adam and eve were made by god and if eve made nearly everyone then that makes sense. But there off spring evolving into white people dosen't.
So where did different skin colors come from then?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rote Zaungast on June 08, 2010, 03:20:20 am
it wasnt a joke
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2010, 03:23:46 am
In addition, what does the missing link have to do with disproving ANYTHING. It's just a fossil we can't find. We've already found the missing link to horses for example. We can trace the evolution of horses via fossil from 64 million years ago. They know what horse 1 looked like, we now have horse 25.

Edit: removed, could be taken the wrong way.

If you take it as literally as it is written, we are all the product of incest as there was 1 man, and 1 woman. On the offchance there were 2 men and 2 women, you get inbreeding in the 3rd generation.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Titiln on June 08, 2010, 03:24:20 am
So where did different skin colors come from then?
do you notice and recognize miracles
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on June 08, 2010, 03:28:22 am
titiln gon' fill you with his jesus juice

i don't know why you're all bothering with nnnnajjj
I was about to say.. Nnaajj is avoiding replies like dodging bullets in matrix. Please stop waisting your time on him. Even if you put something reasonnable in hes face, he will avoid it.
I've answered back to every reply against me.
No (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=116813.msg1131448#msg1131448), you haven't. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=116813.msg1131683#msg1131683)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jmorphman on June 08, 2010, 03:33:06 am
In addition, what does the missing link have to do with disproving ANYTHING. It's just a fossil we can't find.
There's also the fact that fossils are incredibly rare; they require very specific situations in order to be created, so it's not like there being a small gap in our records means anything.

do you notice and recognize miracles
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

titiln gon' fill you with his jesus juice
Sounds sexy.  ;D
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: momo! on June 08, 2010, 03:39:54 am
yes ICP jokes! everybody's getting down with the clowns.

But there off spring evolving into white people dosen't.


Hint: Go outside in the morning and look up. you'll find the answer to this. :sugoi:
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 08, 2010, 03:43:01 am
yes ICP jokes! everybody's getting down with the clowns.

But there off spring evolving into white people dosen't.


Hint: Go outside in the morning and look up. you'll find the answer to this. :sugoi:
I DON'T THINK HE WILL! EDIT*OFF TOPIC Hey did you draw your sig your self? It looks pretty good.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: c00p on June 08, 2010, 04:30:43 am
meh, about the horse's thing
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/natural_history_2_12.html

edit: you have no idea how hard is to find pages that talk bad about evolution and aren't loaded wit religious propagnda  :-\
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2010, 04:46:58 am
1980? I've read articles post that point showing additional horsey things since then. I remember one when i was about 10 in 93. No real details, but additional info.

I also believe you entirely that it would be hard to find genuine scientific articles without the religion. That's the only other view. Nobody has come up with a 3rd that i know of. Part of the problem is people think in black and white too much. The bibles definition is entirely on faith. There is apparently not allowed to be any faith involved in the evolutionary process. "We cannot find things that show this therefore they do not exist = proof" Rather than the probably more accurate "we cannot find proof of this small branch of a species that may have only existed for 300 years and never formed any fossils but that doesn't mean it didn't happen"
Title: Re: Evolutions, Is wrong!!
Post by: Luis Alejandro on June 08, 2010, 06:00:02 am
why don't cockroaches evolve into something like kamen rider?
i was drinking orange soda when i read this, now its in my nose
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 08, 2010, 08:27:06 am
Hey, you jerk, stop ignoring my reply, if you are taking holy scripture as scientific proof of stuff I demand to know why my holy scripture is not being considered as true, the Eddas was around much longer than the one you are taking now. If you are ignoring it, you have to give a pretty good darn reason for it, also the qouram. If holy scripture is scientific proof you got to exclude them with base on something.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Lunchbillion on June 08, 2010, 09:24:49 am
Ok let's look at it from Nnaajj's point of view. Evolution is just a theory and it's our opinion
so, like, we're the ignorant ones because we can't accept other people's opinions and we're
just following the theory of man like mindless sheep. Evidence doesn't matter because
you don't really know.

Is this what he's saying? Because it sounds pretty stupid to me...
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2010, 10:00:34 am
His whole argument has been the standard "i have faith in this and no matter how much is shown to the contrary i will refuse to believe because of this book"

Evolution is more sensible than that book. Well, Genesis anyway. In addition, evolution does not disprove the existence of god at ALL, it just says whoever wrote genesis was simple.

On a less similar subject, i always rather liked the viking mythology. It was comfortably uncomplicated.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 08, 2010, 10:13:08 am
On a less similar subject, i always rather liked the viking mythology. It was comfortably uncomplicated.

What do you mean "mythology"?? Are you implying Eddas isnt real?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: TsuKasa ´・ω・` on June 08, 2010, 10:21:39 am
why is it real? Eddas?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Djsonic on June 08, 2010, 10:26:14 am
Tsukasa what is it?

Whats wrong with Evolution.

Holed on a sec you guys are talking about Eddas in mugen right.  :S
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2010, 10:34:43 am
They were awesome stories. Whether they were true is a different debate i don't want to get into. As were the greek ones, and a few other bits and bob's i've read. The bible was not awesome stories. It was in fact very boring and i only got through about 30 pages before giving up on it. (15 genesis, 15 new testament)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2010, 10:38:57 am
And we do have proof that we came from black people. It is call dna

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve)

See women pass mitochondrial dna to their female offspring, and you trace every human back to the mitochondrial eve, who was a black african woman. Read the wiki page.

Not to be confused with Africans being a different species. We are all from the homosapien DNA line, different from the other human species who weren't good enough to inherit the earth like homosapiens.

I only found bitter nothings joke funny.
But good effort guys.

Why do babies die? Certainly they haven't sinned! WHY DO BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE?!!!! Is God on its period at those times? And must it take its anger out on BABIES? God kills babies!

They were awesome stories. Whether they were true is a different debate i don't want to get into. As were the greek ones, and a few other bits and bob's i've read. The bible was not awesome stories. It was in fact very boring and i only got through about 30 pages before giving up on it. (15 genesis, 15 new testament)

The bible is full of commonsense stuff that anyone learns by the time they're 20. The stuff that isn't commonsense is just ridiculous and I don't see how anyone could believe it.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 12:21:26 pm
Hey, you jerk, stop ignoring my reply, if you are taking holy scripture as scientific proof of stuff I demand to know why my holy scripture is not being considered as true, the Eddas was around much longer than the one you are taking now. If you are ignoring it, you have to give a pretty good darn reason for it, also the qouram. If holy scripture is scientific proof you got to exclude them with based on something.
Don't have to get angry.
I didn't understand your reply so I left out replying to it. Seriously, what do you even mean by eddas and shit.

His whole argument has been the standard "i have faith in this and no matter how much is shown to the contrary i will refuse to believe because of this book"

Evolution is more sensible than that book. Well, Genesis anyway. In addition, evolution does not disprove the existence of god at ALL, it just says whoever wrote genesis was simple.

On a less similar subject, i always rather liked the viking mythology. It was comfortably uncomplicated.
I'm not even acting like that. All I'm saying is that I don't believe it's true in MY OPINION.
You obviously have a problem with that.

Anyway, you guys can argue with me all you want. I still don't think evolution is real.
I thinks it's pretty stupid and the evidence is pretty little.
I don't care about the "the absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence" quote as that applies to so many stuff. But, you guys still refuse to believe in religions.

I'm fine with your guys views, and I know your all smart and shit. But, this is just me. I refuse to believe in a lot of things as I think it's a stupid idea.
Evidence is evidence, but dosen't prove that somethings real.
If I could see a video of something evolving I WILL question myself but, until then I think it's not true.

Sorry if I'm offending anyone, I haven't got a problem with evolution. I just choose not to believe in it.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 08, 2010, 12:34:42 pm
Don't have to get angry.
I didn't understand your reply so I left out replying to it. Seriously, what do you even mean by eddas and shit.

Its the norse "Bible". The book of Odin,  from the Icelandic medieval manuscript Codex Regius. It tells the Völuspá,  the story of the creation of the world and its coming end related by a völva addressing Odin.

The sons of Heimdallr look upon the Eddas to find the proof they need about the world, why would you say shit when referring to holy books! Do you think that Eddas is false?!
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2010, 12:38:42 pm
Evidence is evidence, but dosen't prove that somethings real.

Um... :blank:

If I could see a video of something evolving I WILL question myself but, until then I think it's not true.
And after everything you've been told, you still don't get it. Also, your grounds for disbelief is frightening.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 12:41:39 pm
Sounds like the bible but with different stories lol.
Wierd how I don't see you getting bashed in religion threads because you believe in eddas? Anyway, that's not the point.

I haven't even read eddas so I probably would think it's false.
And when I said shit I meen like your talking about eddas and other stuff.

Evidence is evidence, but dosen't prove that somethings real.

Um... :blank:

If I could see a video of something evolving I WILL question myself but, until then I think it's not true.
And after everything you've been told, you still don't get it. Also, your grounds for disbelief is frightening.

Deal with it.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 08, 2010, 12:44:53 pm
Sounds like the bible but with different stories lol.
Wierd how I don't see you getting bashed in religion threads because you believe in eddas? Anyway, that's not the point.

I haven't even read eddas so I probably would think it's false.
False?! You have thursday and wedsneday named after them I dont see no jesusday, if you are gonna use the bible as evidence, you cant leave out far older and more proven books of faith, can you?  You cant just decide that some books are false and others not if you are assuming them as evidence.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 08, 2010, 12:45:03 pm
ok why is it the missing links are always missing if they live after the "ancestors" and before the "descendants" isn't logical that the ancestors are buried further the ground and missing links should be easier to find than the ancestors?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 12:51:31 pm
Sounds like the bible but with different stories lol.
Wierd how I don't see you getting bashed in religion threads because you believe in eddas? Anyway, that's not the point.

I haven't even read eddas so I probably would think it's false.
False?! You have thursday and wedsneday named after them I dont see no jesusday, if you are gonna use the bible as evidence, you cant leave out far older and more proven books of faith, can you?  You cant just decide that some books are false and others not if you are assuming them as evidence.
Erm but I don't believe in the book of eddas... So what are you even saying.
How is it more proven btw?
Also eddas has nothing to do with the bible so why would I believe two books?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2010, 12:52:05 pm
Deal with it.


I have a better idea, how about you deal with what people say to you? If you're going to ignore and/or couple-of-word-reply, then stop posting in this thread to get replies, then ignoring said replies and claiming they're too much for you to understand. If that's all you're going to do, then don't post. That's rude and just fills the thread with unsettled quarrels which are likely to come out in threads other than this one.

To address your comment: Deal with your idiocy and self inflicted obliviousness? How could you make yourself blind to what is presented to you on purpose by means of simply saying you don't understand? Do you have dyslexia? You can read and comprehend. Nobody has told you anything that is hard to understand. You're either just being shelled because you want to see how people reply, or you're just stupid.

What is the point of flushing something out because it conflicts with something as silly as the bible? At this point, you're just being ridiculous.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 12:56:55 pm
Deal with it.


I have a better idea, how about you deal with what people say to you? If you're going to do that, then stop posting in this thread to get replies, then ignoring everyone's replies and claiming they're too much for you to understand. If that's all you're going to do, then don't post. That's rude and just fills the thread with unsettled quarrels which are likely to come out in threads other than this one.

To address your comment: Deal with your idiocy and self inflicted obliviousness? How could you make yourself blind to what is presented to you on purpose by means of simply saying you don't understand? Do you have dyslexia? You can read and comprehend. Nobody has told you anything that is hard to understand. You're either just being shelled because you want to see how people reply, or you're just stupid.

What is the point of flushing something out because it conflicts with something as silly as the bible? At this point, you're just being ridiculous.
Your being absolutely rude to me. Everyone is treating me horribly cause I don't believe in the same thing as them. Did you see me doing this to people cause they said the bible was stupid, no? Look at you right now, saying how my belief is stupid yet again.
Thats rude to me and I feel really offending by everyone saying all this hate on people who don't believe in evolution.

Why should I respond to people who aren't even acting civil. In debate your not supposed to bash someone cause of there view, your supposed to share your views and reasons why. Give different proof and stuff.

Seriously gtfo. How dare you say that when your treating me like garbage.

I'm not even going to debate no more if this is going to happen. I feel like I'm falling out with a lot of people.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 08, 2010, 01:01:10 pm
Erm but I don't believe in the book of eddas... So what are you even saying.
How is it more proven btw?
If you believe a book of prayer for scientific results, you have got to take in consideration the others, what do they have different from that one that it makes it more likely to be believed?!

And you spend your days through thor's day, odin's day and frigg's day in the weekend, you dont go through saying jesusday, thus you have more of it affecting the world around you.
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Also eddas has nothing to do with the bible so why would I believe two books?
The only one book you believe is the bible and you think the others are fairytales?
All the books, even outside of prayer ones? thats a problem dont you think? You are eliminating your own sense of questioning the universe out of principle, you are young and might still grow out of it, but you need to understand how dangerous for your person this is on the long run, treating faith and science as the same thing, as black and white exclusive things, as if you could choose to believe in math .
If eddas is a fairytale and you think I shouldnt treat the world as if there are dwarves descended from the maggots that consumed the corpse of the great Giant Ymir when Odin gave you the gift of life and created Ash and Elm, why are you telling me I should treat the world as if God made a man out of clay and the sun rotates around the earth?

What is it in your book of beliefs that make it superior to the Eddas?!
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 01:03:38 pm
Erm but I don't believe in the book of eddas... So what are you even saying.
How is it more proven btw?
If you believe a book of prayer for scientific results, you have got to take in consideration the others, what do they have different from that one that it makes it more likely to be believed?!

And you spend your days through thor's day, odin's day and frigg's day in the weekend, you dont go through saying jesusday, thus you have more of it affecting the world around you.
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Also eddas has nothing to do with the bible so why would I believe two books?
The only one book you believe is the bible and you think the others are fairytales?
All the books, even outside of prayer ones? thats a problem dont you think? You are eliminating your own sense of questioning the universe out of principle, you are young and might still grow out of it, but you need to understand how dangerous for your person this is on the long run, treating faith and science as the same thing, as black and white exclusive things, as if you could choose to believe in math .
If eddas is a fairytale and you think I shouldnt treat the world as if there are dwarves descended from the maggots that consumed the corpse of the great Giant Ymir when Odin gave you the gift of life and created Ash and Elm, why are you telling me I should treat the world as if God made a man out of clay and the sun rotates around the earth?

What is it in your book of beliefs that make it superior to the Eddas?!
But like I said, I haven't read it. Need to read it first before I even believe in it a little.
Also, what makes eddas better than the bible?
Yeah, I'm asking the same question is but, the difference is I'm not saying the bible is superior. Your saying eddas is superior.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2010, 01:06:12 pm
Your being absolutely rude to me. Everyone is treating me horribly cause I don't believe in the same thing as them.
No, people are being rude because you started ignoring them, and you started claiming something was wrong without anything intelligent to back yourself up. You are obviously ignorant on this subject due to your various admittances of not being able to understand what was being told to you. Therefore, your continued replies to something that you admitted to not understanding causes things to ignite. You were rude in causing a ruckus about something you don't understand. You should have just left this thread alone, then.

Did you see me doing this to people cause they said the bible was stupid, no? Look at you right now, saying how my belief is stupid yet again.
Yeah, you did this to Shamrock. But no one cares about that. What you are doing now is completely different.

Thats rude to me and I feel really offending by everyone saying all this hate on people who don't believe in evolution.
This is nullified by the above quote and response.

Why should I respond to people who aren't even acting civil. In debate your not supposed to bash someone cause of there view, your supposed to share your views and reasons why. Give different proof and stuff.
Why should you respond about something you don't understand and claim it is wrong if you don't understand it? It's not right to just bash something and say it's wrong simply because you can, and do so with the supposed reinforcement of the bible. People gave you tons of reasons why and you either ignored or simply said you don't understand while at the same times claiming that it is fake; that makes no sense.

Seriously gtfo. How dare you say that when your treating me like garbage..
I haven't treated you like garbage, boy. I brought some stuff to the table about you, and you obviously don't understand. just like you don't understand what you've been told in this thread, as so you say.

I'm not even going to debate no more if this is going to happen. I feel like I'm falling out with a lot of people.

You weren't debating. You were making claims about something that you didn't understand and then denying any facts or evidence revealed to you. Debating involves two sides that actually have knowledge about what is being debating. Where in this case, you don't have that knowledge.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: TsuKasa ´・ω・` on June 08, 2010, 01:14:10 pm
stop it stop it look at us we are tearing our friendship because of our differences...(T_T)

so~ to solve this problem why not stop believing in holy scriptures and other divine beings and start worshipping me~
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 08, 2010, 01:19:04 pm
Your being absolutely rude to me. Everyone is treating me horribly cause I don't believe in the same thing as them.

No, people are being rude because you started ignoring them, and you started claiming something was wrong without anything intelligent to back yourself up with. You are obviously ignorant on this subject due to your various admittances of not being able to understand what was being told to you. Therefore, your continued reply to something that you admitted to not understanding causes things to ignite. You were rude in causing a ruckus about something you don't understand. You should have just left this thread alone, then.



Did you see me doing this to people cause they said the bible was stupid, no? Look at you right now, saying how my belief is stupid yet again.

Yeah, you did this to Shamrock. But no one cares about that. What you are doing now is completely different.

Thats rude to me and I feel really offending by everyone saying all this hate on people who don't believe in evolution.

This is nullified by the above quote and response.


Why should I respond to people who aren't even acting civil. In debate your not supposed to bash someone cause of there view, your supposed to share your views and reasons why. Give different proof and stuff.

Why should you respond about something you don't understand and claim it is wrong if you don't understand it? It's not right to just bash something and say it's wrong simply because you can, and do so with the supposed reinforcement of the bible. People gave you tons of reasons why that you either ignored or simply said you don't understand while at the same times claiming that it is fake.


Seriously gtfo. How dare you say that when your treating me like garbage..

I haven't treated you like garbage, boy. I brought some stuff to the table about you, an you obviously don't understand it. just liek you don't understand what you've been told in this thread, as so you say.

I'm not even going to debate no more if this is going to happen. I feel like I'm falling out with a lot of people.

You weren't debating. You were making claims about something that you didn't understand and then denying any facts or evidence revealed to you. Debating involves two sides that actually have knowledgr about what is being debating. Where in this case, you don't have that knowledge.
Don't flip this!
Just cause I didnt understand 1 or 2 things your not supposed to treat me differently.
Tell me what it means then. And when you do, I still think it's a stupid piece of so called "evidence". What your saying is, because of that I'm being rude.
Haha no.

I never treated shamrock like that, he treated me like that. Calling me an unintelligent idiot because I believed in god. Even TempesT pointed that out later on.

I didnt ignore people, I pretty much answer 90% of posts but, apparently my response was stupid. So thats when I got tired of answering stuck up people who can't take someone disagreeing with them.

gtfo once again. You haven't brought anything to the table you've only said stuff like god is fake and evolution is real. Your obviously biased.

Facts and evidence don't me evolution is real. It just supports the theory abit.
I have the knowledge but according to you guys I don't cause I think evolution is stupid.

I giveup on you people.
No more post from me if you can't take someone denying evolution.
And just cause your evidence ain't strong enough to prove evolution real don't bash me.
Go believe in that theory, I don't care. Just don't bash someone who thinks your stupid.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 01:26:23 pm
Wish People would stop saying we haven't found the missing link. There is no such thing or if there is, we have already found at least 9 missing links.

It wasn't look he is a monkey, look now he is monkey human hybrid, look now he is a human.

The Chimp looking things

It was  Sahelanthropus tchadensis, Orrorin tugenensis, Ardipithecus ramidus, Australopithecus anamensis, Australopithecus afarensis, Kenyanthropus platyops, Australopithecus africanus, Australopithecus garhi , Australopithecus aethiopicus, Australopithecus robustus, Australopithecus boisei

Then it was the human looking things

Homo habilis, Homo georgicus, Homo erectus, Homo ergaster, Homo antecessor, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, Homo floresiensis (Note may be a cousin and descendant of Erectus) Homo sapiens sapiens

I mean, how many missing links do we need to find to get people to stop saying we haven't found him. Note: Some of the above lived at the same time and were not direct descendants, most notably.  Homo floresiensis, Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, and many of the Australopithecus species.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 08, 2010, 01:35:35 pm
i'm saying why is it sooo FEW! if they roamed the earth as packs or tribe there should be abundant of fossils and they lived separately and if evolution is true there should be a living "missing link" right now. are all missing links evolved into humans?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2010, 01:41:48 pm
Don't flip this!
Just cause I didnt understand 1 or 2 things your not supposed to treat me differently.
You weren't being treated differently, you were being treated like any other moron who would argue about something he doesn't understand, and admitted to not understanding it.

Tell me what it means then. And when you do, I still think it's a stupid piece of so called "evidence". What your saying is, because of that I'm being rude.
Haha no.

Proof you haven't read what anyone said, and also proof of how stupidly closed minded you are. You're basically saying, "Even if you tell me I'm on fire and I see my skin burning and feel the pain, I'm still going to think you're lying." You sound like a blazing moron.

I never treated shamrock like that, he treated me like that. Calling me an unintelligent idiot because I believed in god. Even TempesT pointed that out later on..
I would go get the evidence to prove it to you, but you probably won't understand or believe me.

I didnt ignore people, I pretty much answer 90% of posts but, apparently my response was stupid. So thats when I got tired of answering stuck up people who can't take someone disagreeing with them.

You ignored people, or simply shoved off their post with a couple of words. The one where you said "lol, I thought you were smart" to Cyanide was ridiculous. Especially since you don't understand this and had no idea what you were talking about.


gtfo once again. You haven't brought anything to the table you've only said stuff like god is fake and evolution is real. Your obviously biased..
If you keep telling me to get the fuck out like that, we will see who really gets the fuck out. The reason I made those posts was to show you exactly how you sounded. Maybe now you understand, probably not.

Facts and evidence don't me evolution is real. It just supports the theory abit.
I have the knowledge but according to you guys I don't cause I think evolution is stupid..

You think evolution is stupid because of the bible. Which any sane person know is ridiculous. Neither cancels out the other.

I giveup on you people.
No more post from me if you can't take someone denying evolution.
And just cause your evidence ain't strong enough to prove evolution real don't bash me.
Go believe in that theory, I don't care. Just don't bash someone who thinks your stupid.

I am not the voice of everyone. But please, if you're going to stop posting in this thread, it would leave the need to explain stuff to rude people who blatantly claim something is stupid while admitting to not understanding it and ignoring anyone's response to themselves. What is the need for someone like that in this thread? There is no need. Stop holly-jopping around about stuff you don't understand, please.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 01:46:14 pm
Hmm

There are not few. We have only found a few complete skeletons. We find even more than this, but they can't say that it is a species until they have many, otherwise it could just be a freak, like the elephant man. All of the ones I have listed have been found many many time except for The Hobbit (Homo floresiensis) The only reason the Hobbit is on this lists, is because he is completely out of place with time and his evolutionary features and is puzzle.

Where the fuck do you people get your information from?

And they didn't roam the earth, only Us and Erectus did that. Neanderthal lived in Europe and were Erectus and homo floresiensis most likely was the same. And we still spent more time in Africa than we have roaming the earth.

All others lived and died out in africa. If you go to Ethiopia in that gorge and walk along it, you will find a hominid bone, they find them daily. They just barely ever find whole skeletons.

Take Ardipithecus ramidus. We first found bones for this guy in 1975. Only last year did we find a partial or enough skeleton to say that this guy existed, he was many, and he fits the fossil record here.

We don't pull this stuff out of thin air.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 08, 2010, 01:52:08 pm
note to self ... don't go against rajaa.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2010, 02:02:34 pm
Go against me any time you please. I am not a monster or anything like that. :)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 08, 2010, 02:39:32 pm
You say you are not a monster? Then why do I get scared every time I look at that crazy smile that your avatar has.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Great Leader Kevin Rudd on June 08, 2010, 03:02:57 pm
You say you are not a monster? Then why do I get scared every time I look at that crazy smile that your avatar has.

It's a raep face.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Bastard Wolf on June 08, 2010, 03:05:45 pm
You will see that face in your dreams and never sleep again... or maybe you'll never wake up.

Requesting that this thread is renamed as "Nnaajj living in denial" or something like that. And leave the poor kid alone, if he is willing to remain ignorant and closed minded then let him be. But then again he should be prepared to be mistreated by everyone else because of that.

But despite all that this turned out to be a very informative thread.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: The Riddler on June 08, 2010, 03:10:24 pm
What, this isn't a WWE Evolution thread? And here I brought the hot coals to rake it over.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Iced on June 08, 2010, 04:02:25 pm
Yeah, I'm asking the same question is but, the difference is I'm not saying the bible is superior. Your saying eddas is superior.
You are saying that the bible is superior to evidences and facts, and that facts dont make something real.
If you dont see my point about the eddas being comparable then what else can really be said?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Tsunamidusher on June 08, 2010, 04:03:49 pm
Pokemon is popular.
Therefore, Evolution is widely accepted.

That's how it works, right?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: MAO11 on June 08, 2010, 04:07:28 pm
yes...
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 08, 2010, 04:58:43 pm
stop it stop it look at us we are tearing our friendship because of our differences...(T_T)

so~ to solve this problem why not stop believing in holy scriptures and other divine beings and start worshipping me~
That would make as much sence as replying to annything Nnaajj says.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 09, 2010, 08:03:05 am
stop it stop it look at us we are tearing our friendship because of our differences...(T_T)

so~ to solve this problem why not stop believing in holy scriptures and other divine beings and start worshipping me~

Deal.

/me takes off shoes.

I am begining to hate my current avatar singature set, going back to yuri/tg stuff soon.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Luis Alejandro on June 09, 2010, 08:06:10 am
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i228/doctor_2006/LuckyStar.png)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 09, 2010, 05:05:21 pm
If Nnaajj was serious about defending his position, he would at least provide clear, logical evidence that contradicts or at least argues against the theory of evolution that, at the same time, has absolutely no religious bias. Sadly, thats asking too much of him (or anyone really, but I'm sure such evidence/arguments exist somewhere, even if its something as absurd as aliens dropping souls into volcanoes and detonating them)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Lunchbillion on June 10, 2010, 06:53:34 am
yo nnaajj

explain to us why our evidence isn't good enough
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on June 10, 2010, 07:22:06 am
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8376/cocohead.png)
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: momo! on June 10, 2010, 07:35:56 am
Wish People would stop saying we haven't found the missing link. There is no such thing or if there is, we have already found at least 9 missing links.

It wasn't look he is a monkey, look now he is monkey human hybrid, look now he is a human.


Any religious scholars who still argue this are behind on the times. Their arguement was basically WELL WE NEED ALL THE CAUSAL LINKS FROM APE TO MAN AND THEY ALL HAD TO BE ORDERED IN THE EARTH ACCORDING TO THE TIMELINE AND ORDER OF THEIR ARRIVAL!!

in other words they wanted 100% of the evidence, but that's never ever been given for anything, like gravity and all that junk.

Ooh yeah now it's all about saying God used evolution and science to create the universe :ninja:
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 10, 2010, 07:44:26 am
who in their right mind wouldn't use the matrix to describe a situation as bad as this

Nnaajj is like a most recent event, such as bush vs shoes
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: TsuKasa ´・ω・` on June 10, 2010, 02:49:51 pm
Wish People would stop saying we haven't found the missing link. There is no such thing or if there is, we have already found at least 9 missing links.

It wasn't look he is a monkey, look now he is monkey human hybrid, look now he is a human.


Any religious scholars who still argue this are behind on the times. Their arguement was basically WELL WE NEED ALL THE CAUSAL LINKS FROM APE TO MAN AND THEY ALL HAD TO BE ORDERED IN THE EARTH ACCORDING TO THE TIMELINE AND ORDER OF THEIR ARRIVAL!!

in other words they wanted 100% of the evidence, but that's never ever been given for anything, like gravity and all that junk.

Ooh yeah now it's all about saying God used evolution and science to create the universe :ninja:


if it isn't 100% there is a possibility that it could be wrong... unless we saw or recorded one.
let's just say ... Schrodinger's cat
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: kakkoii superhero on June 10, 2010, 03:01:00 pm
until I see the fossil of a nigger with tail, I will stop believing theory of evolution, and start believing Hiigara as my homeworld.   ;D
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Cybaster on June 10, 2010, 03:07:06 pm
The subject of the topic in itself is not stupid (even though there's not much to discuss, from my point of view), but I see many people in this topic are.
Whatever, I'll go back at my Maths, doing real science.

And LOL to people invoking Religion to explain Evolution or whatever they call it in their language.
The Theory of Bigbang, string theory, existence of life on other Planets : these are subjects you can have a discussion on. You don't make a discussion out of facts.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rote Zaungast on June 10, 2010, 03:13:33 pm
c quoi une omelet du fromage divisé par la taille de la bitte?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 10, 2010, 07:42:57 pm
titiln gon' fill you with his jesus juice

i don't know why you're all bothering with nnnnajjj
I was about to say.. Nnaajj is avoiding replies like dodging bullets in matrix. Please stop waisting your time on him. Even if you put something reasonnable in hes face, he will avoid it.
I've answered back to every reply against me.
No (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=116813.msg1131448#msg1131448), you haven't. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=116813.msg1131683#msg1131683)
Nnaajj, you've been answerring only what you wanted, making yourself look like a victim and complaining about stuff no one even said waisting everryones time like a'n annoying lying jerk. And bitter nothings, you really don't want me to answer your french omelet question beccause i could make a joke out of it.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nnaajj on June 10, 2010, 07:59:41 pm
Stop posting.
We get the point you have some secret grudge against me but frankly, I don't give a shit.
Like I said, who the hell are you anyway?

Also, your only posting here to try and make some argument with me. Isn't it strange how all your posts in this thread involve you hating on me.

Go away.

And I'll be honest, I don't really have a valid reason to not believe in evolution. It has many pieces of evidence but, in my opinion not enough for that type of theory. It sounds a bit too crazy aswell, us evolving from monkeys and animals evolving from things like fish is not a normal thing you might of thought when day dreaming. If I saw more strong evidence I'd put my hands up and plead guilty for being ignorant and a dumbass.

Like I said, I'm not going to post here anymore as I don't want to argue with anymore people.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Anjel on June 10, 2010, 08:07:57 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1-bbz3crjw
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 10, 2010, 08:29:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1-bbz3crjw
omfg anjel you made me laugh so hard.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Foobs on June 10, 2010, 11:20:46 pm
And I'll be honest, I don't really have a valid reason to not believe in evolution. It has many pieces of evidence but, in my opinion not enough for that type of theory. It sounds a bit too crazy aswell, us evolving from monkeys and animals evolving from things like fish is not a normal thing you might of thought when day dreaming. If I saw more strong evidence I'd put my hands up and plead guilty for being ignorant and a dumbass.
This is the only thing you should have posted on the entire thread.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 10, 2010, 11:54:08 pm
Well, i don't believe i shared my opinion about evollution yet so i will now! I bellieve to much hard work went into getting the information about evollution we have today to just throw it all away! Wen i was younger, i saw that half dinosor, half bird picture and its something i care allot about! I'm happy to have learnd that birds are like flying lizzard no matter what retarded jokes annyone on here would make about it and i care about it allot!
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 11, 2010, 02:28:38 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1-bbz3crjw

Isn't that kind of ironic, though? Lol. The ending is hilarious.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 11, 2010, 03:30:59 am
If you mean Ironic as in an Alanis Morissette definition of the word, then I guess you could say that. Otherwise it is an Oxymoron
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: kakkoii superhero on June 11, 2010, 03:32:10 am
Well, i don't believe i shared my opinion about evollution yet so i will now! I bellieve to much hard work went into getting the information about evollution we have today to just throw it all away! Wen i was younger, i saw that half dinosor, half bird picture and its something i care allot about! I'm happy to have learnd that birds are like flying lizzard no matter what retarded jokes annyone on here would make about it and i care about it allot!

why so serious? was that your first crush or something...  ???
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 11, 2010, 03:44:15 am
Well, i don't believe i shared my opinion about evollution yet so i will now! I bellieve to much hard work went into getting the information about evollution we have today to just throw it all away! Wen i was younger, i saw that half dinosor, half bird picture and its something i care allot about! I'm happy to have learnd that birds are like flying lizzard no matter what retarded jokes annyone on here would make about it and i care about it allot!

why so serious? was that your first crush or something...  ???
No :) . LOL! I just came out of the ( who would you bring back to life ) topic wen i said that. And i was fealling a little emotiannal. I'm ok now though :) .
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rote Zaungast on June 11, 2010, 04:14:25 am
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you really don't want me to answer your french omelet question beccause i could make a joke out of it.

i really want to know what this joke is
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 11, 2010, 04:31:54 am
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you really don't want me to answer your french omelet question beccause i could make a joke out of it.

i really want to know what this joke is
Screw the french omelet joke.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 11, 2010, 10:29:53 pm
If you mean Ironic as in an Alanis Morissette definition of the word, then I guess you could say that. Otherwise it is an Oxymoron

I mean it's ironic that someone who doesn't believe god thinks that there's a sign in a fruit that says god doesn't exist. What are the grounds for that sign if there is no god?  :P
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 11, 2010, 11:03:57 pm
Which is an Oxymoron not Irony. There are a couple of different kinds of irony.

In true irony it would be that he believes in god because the fruit said there was no god.

In tragic irony, the dude would stop believing in god because the fruit said that there was no god and when he dies, he goes to hell for not believing in god.

When a piece of fruit says there is no god but only god could have wrote that, then it is an Oxymoron. Like saying a girl is pretty Ugly.

Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 12, 2010, 08:34:32 am
God depends on faith, so any proof that god exists negates god.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 12, 2010, 07:25:08 pm
Which is an Oxymoron not Irony. There are a couple of different kinds of irony.

In true irony it would be that he believes in god because the fruit said there was no god.

In tragic irony, the dude would stop believing in god because the fruit said that there was no god and when he dies, he goes to hell for not believing in god.

When a piece of fruit says there is no god but only god could have wrote that, then it is an Oxymoron. Like saying a girl is pretty Ugly.



It is ironic. It's like a policeman getting arrested. A nonbeliever of gods and signs, thinks that there's a sign that supports his non-belief.

Screw this. I hate irony debates. :gonkgoi:
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Nero D. on June 12, 2010, 07:40:24 pm
LOL there's so many different types of irony.

An oxymoron could be considered verbal irony, no?
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: Shamrock on June 14, 2010, 02:41:33 pm
Sort of, but most people just call that sarcasm because it is more accurate and less confusing. Sarcasm fits in rather well here because that video is sarcastic as hell.
Title: Re: Evolution is wrong!!
Post by: ShinRaphael on June 29, 2010, 11:07:15 am
Also, your only posting here to try and make some argument with me. Isn't it strange how all your posts in this thread involve you hating on me.
Actually my first post on here was about mammoths and adaptation but i think you ignored it.                                                                                                                                                                     Hey Cyanide, you said the world isn't going to blow up? Is this true? Beccause i really use to believe that.