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Administration => Public Staff discussion => Topic started by: Valodim on February 07, 2010, 09:40:57 pm

Title: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on February 07, 2010, 09:40:57 pm
New thread for discussion. This one is intended for member behavior only, as in "Warnings/Banning" but not "Decisions"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on February 08, 2010, 06:30:41 am
If this user derails another thread, I would like to limit his posts.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=William (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=William)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 08, 2010, 10:48:07 pm
+1

I'm for it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 09, 2010, 12:28:55 am
Luigi1632 will be recieving another ban if i catch him double posting in dev help again.

Aside from flaming, in that forum i have no tolerance for double posting. He has had 2 warnings about it. He does it again he's out. Nobody is important enough to have their "urgent" issue escalated over anyone else, you double post, you get no help.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on February 09, 2010, 02:15:02 am
you know the post limitation would work against him there as well :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on February 09, 2010, 02:32:06 am
Just do it already -_-
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on February 09, 2010, 03:07:45 am
his recent post history looks clean enough to me, not a "just do it" case at least :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 09, 2010, 04:01:46 am
He's spamming less, i think the ridicule got through at last.

Doesn't excuse double posting in dev help though. Especially not after waiting 5 minutes
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 09, 2010, 05:19:16 am
Lock any thread he does that in.
That's my two cents.  :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 09, 2010, 03:30:24 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112212.0

to take in consideration in future frictions.

Motvn latest stunt revealed a small hole on the banned permissions, should be fixed now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on February 09, 2010, 08:43:52 pm
HankVenture PM'd me regarding that report.

Hey, I thought I would PM you about this since you're the first moderator to post in the reports on this.

Sean PMed me about three hours prior to his report (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112212.0). In short Sean's report is genuinely out of spite. He PMed me asking about the wink line while throwing in some slanderous words. I explained to him that it was a joke and that him that multiple forms of context exist and are hard to convey on the internet. I then told him more or less to stop following my posts since he always has a problem with everything I say anyway while throwing in some choice words of my own... and compared him to a feminist. 3 hours later we have that cute little report of his. Since the report was made as more of a "fuck you" than it was out of actual concern I am asking that the report be thrown out. I have seen far worse posts than mine on this forum as of late and to be reported and possibly warned because someone doesn't like what I have to say seems a little counter productive to as why forums exist. Especially MUGEN forums that are based around the notion of sharing ideas and feedback. I'm a critical person and have high standards, and if I don't like something I explain as to why. I want to see people improve, not stay at the same level and make the same uninspired work over and over again. Anyway, I could go on for a while but I rather not do that to you. LoL Take it easy.

-Hank

Seems reasonable enough to me, there's just deep-seated hatred between them I think.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on February 09, 2010, 09:14:13 pm
I'm a little lost. What is the problem? MOTVN? Hank is a bit of an ass sometimes but that was rather mild. Just send him a pm and ask him to be a little nicer.

Why is there large paragraphs of text concerning this?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on February 09, 2010, 09:30:21 pm
there's just deep-seated hatred between them I think.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 10, 2010, 01:32:45 am
MOTVN?

that was unrelated, motvn start trying to move his older threads and post stuff in the MOVED warning thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 11, 2010, 09:03:49 pm
All in favor of limiting Luigi's posts say aye.

He's back to his old spammy 'cocks shotgun' post style; I've told him to stop and he's ignored me completely.

He doesn't listen and he either can't change or has no desire to change.


Everyone else needs to stop playing along with him, but enough is enough.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 11, 2010, 09:46:58 pm
Do it. 3 per day, let him suffer for 2 weeks. Maybe he'll put more thought into what he says.

Edit: Apply it to storm Ex as well, fucking pain in the ass. Not to the same level, 5 a day  ;P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on February 12, 2010, 08:22:26 am
U shud unban da masta or face ultimate DISASTA
coz metrokers SQL injection make u drop FASTA

Is this an actual threat?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 12, 2010, 08:44:17 am
Fuck knows. Ignore him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 12, 2010, 09:03:23 am
I'm not really sure how to limit posts per day, so someone would need to tell me how unless it's already been done.  :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 12, 2010, 09:09:38 am
Val does it. He says he is too lazy to code a front end.

I say we bombard him with people to apply this to until he codes a frontend XD
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 12, 2010, 10:20:59 am
Lets code an app that bombards val with 1 mail per hour from each of us until he makes the changes we want.
U shud unban da masta or face ultimate DISASTA
coz metrokers SQL injection make u drop FASTA

Is this an actual threat?
yes, its a threat sponsored by the P-GS (HANK SENT A PM ASKING TO POINT OUT THAT ITS BY SOMEONE THAT CLAIMS TO BE A P-GS so imma gonna add that) OR so he claims. but they arent apparently gangsta and are just grafitters, so we are oppressing their beliefs.
Banned him anyway, for being a dunce.
with any luck we get rid of wannabe gangstas.Tired of always having to clean up their shit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 12, 2010, 06:37:38 pm
We are having a recent flood of Bots http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=54965, i think this one might be the next after googling for his data around.
To moderators when banning bots, please use the ban name and mail setting then delete the account and all posts and topics related to the account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on February 12, 2010, 07:12:10 pm
Did you say you banned a guy for making a song or was there more to that?

If that is the case, can I ban anyone that bitches when I ban someone?  ;P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on February 12, 2010, 08:26:13 pm
More like for threatening an SQL injection.

P.S. someone still isn't using the solve/unsolve button in reports >_>
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on February 13, 2010, 08:55:19 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=55003
http://stopforumspam.com/search?q=sunglasrus

Banned this... thing. Self explanatory.

Thanks Gill!



Also, what's our stand on oversized sigs?

It seems like the forum already limits the size of them anyway, if the sig is too large you'll have to scroll down to actually see it, so it'll look pretty horrible.

Should we still focus on the image size or just the file size now?

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 13, 2010, 09:25:07 am
/me points at Iceds' sig
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on February 13, 2010, 09:31:46 am
rofl

Another one: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112453.0

Jesus, man. What's up with all these bots coming in here lately?

Edit2: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=nickstratis2 I'M ON FIRE
Edit3: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=fardissoftono HELP

Bots killed: 4
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on February 13, 2010, 11:54:02 am
what makes you think those are bots? did they post something bot-ish?

either way, increased captcha complexity a bit (still simple for humans)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on February 13, 2010, 11:55:44 am
Yeah, posts about affiliate programs, scams and... pepper spray.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 13, 2010, 02:05:11 pm
Also they are all on the site for spamprevention,  when they register before posting ive checked a few out of there and then banned the mail server they are from and deleted the accounts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on February 13, 2010, 06:59:27 pm
Also, what's our stand on oversized sigs?

Errr... this? (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=62286.0)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on February 13, 2010, 07:16:15 pm
the scrollbar thingie doesn't work on all browsers, so if you see a scrollbar that means the sig is oversized and should be reduced (plus it looks stupid with scrollbars ;) )

so did you want anyone to have post limitation now? didn't see a name in combination with a number yet, soo~ :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on February 13, 2010, 07:24:49 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112183.msg1063367#msg1063367

:-*
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on February 13, 2010, 10:30:53 pm
the scrollbar thingie doesn't work on all browsers, so if you see a scrollbar that means the sig is oversized and should be reduced (plus it looks stupid with scrollbars ;) )

Ah alright. So it was made so we could identify them easily, good to know.

I thought there would be no need to limit the sig size anymore after it was put into action.

Edit: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=54989 another one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 14, 2010, 02:06:59 am
so did you want anyone to have post limitation now? didn't see a name in combination with a number yet, soo~ :P

No idea what you could possibly be implying...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on February 14, 2010, 02:21:23 am
Oh, found the number. Ok Luigi is now limited to three posts a day.

Make 'em count, guy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on February 16, 2010, 10:22:29 pm
Requesting that both Luis Alejandro (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=%C3%90shiznetz) and Nnaajj (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=NiallAsh) are put into a restrictive membergroup that doesn't allow them to see(post in) the Fighting Game forum. Reason being, Luis usually posts one word replies to posts and generally doesn't add much to conversations and when his most recent folly was called out, he started passive aggressive trolling, also I asked Nnaajj to stay out of the Fighting Game threads in general and that warning seems to be ignored as well.

Not asking for permanent removal of their board permissions but I'd rather avoid senseless arguments too so maybe a week or two? Not like they'll be missing much. I'll also send DIO a PM and ask him to be nicer (even though he wasn't a perpetrator in this particular quarrel)

Case Study (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=105899.msg1066354#msg1066354)

oops forgot to link it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on February 17, 2010, 01:11:41 am
Do you have a link to the problem. Because I'm not finding anything weird.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 19, 2010, 04:45:54 pm
Freed Ohsky from the tyranny of the banality of the internet foruns.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 19, 2010, 04:47:26 pm
A thought, maybe this thread should be open to public in feedback.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on February 19, 2010, 07:04:50 pm
Are you trying to encourage crying?

Maybe we should start a grievances area in feedback (I don't think so), but I think we should have our own warnings area.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 19, 2010, 07:09:23 pm
I dunno, I just think that sometimes when we go like "thoughts about banning X" it could be interesting to have more comments, like, say, Lisa point about cleaning up alejandro. Is it needed? I dunno, I would like to think not, but I would like to read more about it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 19, 2010, 08:52:34 pm
I honestly don't know what to think about this idea.  :P

I suppose some additional opinions couldn't hurt.
As long as it doesn't digress into fighting or crying as Shamrock put it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 19, 2010, 09:10:57 pm
I think that's what feedback and reporting is for, in general. So it'd be sort of a redundancy. Plus, with it here, and uncluttered, it's easier to find the actual warnings.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 19, 2010, 09:52:57 pm
Freed Ohsky from the tyranny of the banality of the internet foruns.
Give it a month... I don't expect to see any change.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on February 19, 2010, 11:02:11 pm
I honestly don't know what to think about this idea.  :P

I suppose some additional opinions couldn't hurt.
As long as it doesn't digress into fighting or crying as Shamrock put it.
I think that's what feedback and reporting is for, in general. So it'd be sort of a redundancy. Plus, with it here, and uncluttered, it's easier to find the actual warnings.

Yeah, basically I completely agree with these two fine gentlemen. The point of public staff is transparency, not something the public can tangibly get a hold of and start manipulating their own ideas into actual decisions because then it starts getting really messy, people like Blade Art start injecting their own thoughts and opinions on what happens or worse, Luigi1632 and Ohsky. And God only fucking knows what would happen if Orochi Gill could post in here :gonk:

Also feedback is for feedback, it's virtually already the public staff post-in-able section, staff decisions should still only be made by staff though without the proverbial fatty acids of members opinions.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on February 22, 2010, 05:29:04 am
You know I'm a little tired of Blade Art.

Can we limit him to 5 a day?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 22, 2010, 11:13:48 am


'greed.
HEY PEOPLE, post your feedback on the feedback section if you have something you want to add , dont do it on the random topic or whatever, that is silly!
Stop being silly! You silly people.



You know I'm a little tired of Blade Art.

Can we limit him to 5 a day?
Works for me.

BTW , banned AZ, he can appeal at any time to me through pm, for now its ten days, it shouldnt be a problem for him since he only posted on motvn threads to say how cool the stages were or after hank to say how he +oned everything he said.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on February 22, 2010, 10:50:09 pm
Concerning this (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112760.60).

Unfortunately I find the whole situation to be really astounding. Whenever he (Sean) gets a break, someone else comes from under the bridge to pester him. Naturally there is cause for him to defend himself in his own right, and honestly he's been putting up with a lot lately. The whole HankVenture thing is also a little under the bridge in my eyes too, ever since Hank was reported, his rebuttal was a less than mature signature (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2022/3496v.png)(and we all know who he's referring to here), at this point it is really out of hand and anything related to MOTVN seems to be grounds for a shit storm, and if one or a couple of them has to go, my hand is in for Sean being allowed to stay.

Have at it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 22, 2010, 11:02:17 pm
Hank is a bit of an asshole, like not only that thread points out but all the other times he has been at peoples throats with the whole gang thing.
Every time he posts, a bunch of his "gang" comes and starts doing useless white noise as well. While a couple of the persons he hangs with are nice and educated fellows we all know there is a bunch of people that are here just to post in order to support him and make noise, they bring nothing to the table.

At this point I believe he is only here to start up shit.Both his sigs (which btw, were not  as much a rebuttal but his whole attitude towards this forum)  just emphasize that. His whole behavior and this is just one of the examples. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=107228.0) shows that.


Hankventure has now lost the privileges to an account on the guild, to appeal this situation, or if you think its unfair send me a pm explaining why you would want to be unbanned.

Keep in mind that, "to start fights", is not an option.
We wish you the best of lucks on your future endeavors, you are a talented smart person and if you mind your attitude in general you would be making a lot of friends.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on February 22, 2010, 11:07:31 pm
Both his sigs (which btw, were not  as much a rebuttal but his whole attitude towards this forum)  just emphasize that. His whole behavior and this is just one of the examples. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=107228.0) shows that.
Chronological error on my part then! Point withdrawn, but everything else still stands. Sorry it had to be this way.
/me anime hair wind
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on February 22, 2010, 11:11:13 pm
Poor Hank, I warned him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 22, 2010, 11:22:54 pm
Ist there no one to keep up the good fight?!

Reading the link was borderline nauseating, but I digress.
I know he's been warned before, it's a pity it turned out like this.


Let's see how this plays out.
I anticipate retaliation. :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 22, 2010, 11:34:17 pm
Let's see how this plays out.
I anticipate retaliation. :P

I certainly hope that maturity wins out on that.Retaliate and prove all of "this" right would be weird.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on February 24, 2010, 03:55:21 am
Waru I am disappoint, there are tons of undone capcom chars for a cvs2 ultimate incarnation, and you keep adding SNK poor chars.

Have we given him limited posts yet.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 24, 2010, 07:25:11 am
Waru I am disappoint, there are tons of undone capcom chars for a cvs2 ultimate incarnation, and you keep adding SNK poor chars.

Have we banned him forever yet?

Fixeded.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 24, 2010, 08:57:32 am
I'm for limiting his posts at the very least.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 24, 2010, 01:45:19 pm
Quote
Don't post in this thread anymore because all you're doing is starting trouble, like you usually do. If you have something to say, don't tell other people to stop posting because they have something to say, too. Now I'm telling YOU to stop posting here. I've seen you at this before, stop. Any other troubling posts in this thread by you will be deleted.

This is the part where I'm suppose to cower in fear of you right Rajaaboy?

You'll never learn will you kid.

No, that's the part where you're supposed to stop posting in the thread and causing trouble. I've dealt with Sky before, and he'll just keep sending -personal messages on-and-on-and-on-and-on-and-on-and-on and bringing up irrelevant stuff, just to troll and get the last word, as he displayed in the thread by telling people to stop posting after himself. So I am not wasting my time, just letting you all know it's going on. I don't like his attitude; and I am probably biased with him, and not in his favor.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 24, 2010, 02:36:00 pm
If he starts with the pm bullshit, fullban him, if he keeps doing it from other accounts, delete any account he makes while saving the webmail in the ban list.

Dont follow the same mistake i was following of thinking i was biased while dealing with someone and end up just not banning that person due to my self perceived biasedness. If you thinking "maybe I am biased" Is all that is keeping you from acting, remember that its natural to dislike someone , no one forces you to like everyone.


Either he acts better and is mature towards whatever situation is around him or he can go take a hike.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on February 24, 2010, 04:30:31 pm
limited blade art to 5 posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 24, 2010, 06:57:57 pm
If he starts with the pm bullshit, fullban him, if he keeps doing it from other accounts, delete any account he makes while saving the webmail in the ban list.

Dont follow the same mistake i was following of thinking i was biased while dealing with someone and end up just not banning that person due to my self perceived biasedness. If you thinking "maybe I am biased" Is all that is keeping you from acting, remember that its natural to dislike someone , no one forces you to like everyone.


Either he acts better and is mature towards whatever situation is around him or he can go take a hike.

Okay, thanks for the advice. I'm going to send him a personal and explain to him that it is just him being moderated. Then he'll probably bring up something about Wild Tengu, but we'll see, I doubt it'll have a different outcome than last time.

Spoiler: What I sent him (click to see content)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 25, 2010, 09:47:20 pm
limited blade art to 5 posts.
You just replied to sepp telling him he sucks kfm off
I am very sorry about it, I just lost my cool for the first time after being called repeatidely "retarded" "mentally challenged" and such for 20th time. I can provide you the links to the insults if you ask me to. Everyone can lost his cool after being pissed off that much. But I am usually very cool and polite and I promise this won't happen again. Btw each time I reported the insults, those with permission to post in reports forum just added more insults into it and a mod even asked me to STFU. Again I can provide links to prove this. And last but not least another member has been trolling and harassed me after every of my thread or post. To the point that an admin intervened. He was asked to stop by Valodim. I think I have really been pushed to the borders of sanity.

Quote
you have WE WON under your AVATAR.
I put it here years ago and I just never changed it, because I don't care anymore. If you ask me to change it, I will promptly do so.

Quote
You were even on a warusaki thread just now raging about how he wasnt converting the characters you wanted.
I want not raging, just disappointed that's human, I did not flame warusaki nor anyone. If expressing my disappointment is against the rules of the forum I didn't know and I apologize, I won't do it again

Please I ask you to lift the post limitation, not that I intend to flood the forum anyway but I think I have posted positively in general and I wasn't trying to cause trouble, I am just hated by a handful of frustrated elitists who still hate me for actively opposing KFM views in this forum years ago. Since I returned here after a hiatus I stayed out of mugen politics and troubles with elitists, I really didn't look for trouble, troubles (angry elitists) found me. So after listening to my plea I ask you to please reconsider my situation.

@rajaa: Seems fine, I trust you to deal with it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on February 28, 2010, 09:10:46 am
I went strait for the three day ban on this. See bold.

Do any one of you know how to even code a character?

amn.. why are YOU editing? man.. must say that everything is hilarious.. bill walking seems like bill dancing cha cha cha

bill punching seem like he has a seriusly bad pain in his back ...

man.. try editing more things.. and mayb some years from now you can make the game

and don't come with that fucking crap that every noob says like
"if you dont like dont download it"  because if you don't want our opinion WTF are you doing posting it in a forum??????
you're probably a 12 years old child that just want some atention...

i'll not start saying everything that is wrong in the edits cus i could fill 2 pages of the topic only with that...


sorry.. mayb i 'll get a warning for this.. but your project sucks... .. even a butcher must first learn how to cut before doing it...

so please learn HOW to do it before trying to do something that's awful

 :-*




Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on February 28, 2010, 12:49:00 pm
...I don't see how this is ban worthy.

Some of what he said stands as legitimate advice.

There's been users that have done worse, this is his second post. Ban was too harsh.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on February 28, 2010, 01:08:34 pm
Not his second post. And a warning was not enough considering that he basically announced that a warning is meaningless to him. He knew he was doing wrong before he even did it and basically said "fuck all" Besides three days is nothing.

And if you see somebody doing worse point them out. I'll deal with them too.

I mod disrespect in the project sections. Guys trying to make something, how about at least talking to him like he is human? Others were able to say their peace without saying is sucks, that he is a child, that it is awful, and that it will take him years to make a good edit.

Unless we now endorse discouraging projects. In which case, I'm way out of line.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on February 28, 2010, 02:22:37 pm
with shamrock here, especially since the ban duration is very short (reasonably so)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 28, 2010, 08:18:55 pm
I agree, he deserves a slap on the wrist.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on March 10, 2010, 06:52:50 am
Did we lose the post limit mod on those people? Kick luigi down to 1 post. He's not only annoying now he's telling people they have to live with him like this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 10, 2010, 10:58:08 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=55752
ban tetsuo9999 if he keeps usng this account trying to flamebait, give him a month or two
Thank you.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on March 19, 2010, 09:34:44 am
Luigi1632 seems to be ignoring any/all warnings from staff, the post limitation is working as a "you're only allowed 5 swings of this baseball bat that's covered in barbwire at me per day", kind of lacks a failsafe... Most recent example is, once again, Warner's newest sprite thread.

Moderating him is just a pain, and at least one person here agrees with me!

Banned for 30 days. Spamming a Graphics topic, and advertising outside of the designated area.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on March 22, 2010, 09:29:44 pm
Also Orochi Gill and Blade Art are attacking each other. Neither are exempt from the rules when it comes to pecking at each others eyes and necks for stupid reasons. Linking to different sources is FINE, also warehouses are completely FINE to link to and disputing that fact to each other in public will result in POSTING ABILITIES REMOVED AT MY DISCRETION! or maybe we'll talk about it first since I'm all for collective reasoning.. yeah that's it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on March 22, 2010, 10:36:34 pm
Cool on Luigi.

Be careful not to go overboard on the other two. They hate each other and will use any childish excuse to argue, but a warning is usually enough to make them shut up.

If a warning doesn't work, ban at will. It isn't as if they haven't been warned a bunch of times about their continued feud.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on March 22, 2010, 10:44:06 pm
Yeah, all I brought up was a 24 hour read-only period, since the first 3 reports I dealt with today were involving them, not to mention the topic in Feedback ::)

TY FOR INPUT I'm not so ronery in here anymore.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 22, 2010, 10:46:40 pm
im sorry, ive been busy but you are doing fine.
D:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 25, 2010, 11:14:36 am
Banned syn double account.
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=45250
as usual, his original account is still open for use.
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=29465
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 03, 2010, 12:00:51 am
Is anyone personally watching for William duplicate accounts? He seems to make one post, and then the ban trigger kicks in after the fact. Thoughts?


Ban shifted to Permanent, due to constant evasion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on April 03, 2010, 12:10:49 am
Strange, you're right, the ban trigger isn't working exactly like it should.

Also, I find ban evasion to be a rude act. I suggest increasing ban time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 03, 2010, 12:13:59 am
His feedback on characters and stages was a rude act. Ban evasion is complete disregard for forum rules and authority, but I'm down for just a year long ban too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on April 03, 2010, 12:33:13 am
Doesn't know IP until it's posted with?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 03, 2010, 12:58:47 am
Thats not how its supposed to work, it supposedly logs ip when registering account too.


Unless he is registering accouns at the library or something then running home to post, but that would be just silly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on April 03, 2010, 09:08:48 am
Muted, 1 day. Spam quote bumping.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=40686
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on April 03, 2010, 11:24:31 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=56528

Switched to perm ban. People should know when they're asked to leave.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 03, 2010, 03:48:20 pm
Got a pm from sky97 claiming he was told he was gonna get permabanned if he keeps posting? Surely some misunderstanding?
(I saw his posts they are kinda in need of some reading comprehension but we never permabanned anyone  out of the blue like that, even luigi had a few attempts)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on April 03, 2010, 03:50:38 pm
i never even used the word permabanned. he really needs to start thinking before posting (his post history shows this especially the kof13 thread)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 03, 2010, 05:01:00 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112184.msg1090536#msg1090536
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 03, 2010, 10:20:45 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=56528

Switched to perm ban. People should know when they're asked to leave.
Err...
Is anyone personally watching for William duplicate accounts? He seems to make one post, and then the ban trigger kicks in after the fact. Thoughts?


Ban shifted to Permanent, due to constant evasion.
Also, I find ban evasion to be a rude act. I suggest increasing ban time.

Were you on drugs the past few days? D:


http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112184.msg1090536#msg1090536
Personally ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on April 03, 2010, 11:24:03 pm
Were you on drugs the past few days? D:

yes, want some?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 03, 2010, 11:35:39 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112184.msg1090536#msg1090536

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112690.msg1089945#msg1089945

I think he's talking about that post. No one told him he would get permanently banned. He's just stretching words for no reason except to have someone feel sorry for him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on April 07, 2010, 05:20:11 am
Drugs aside...

Banned another bot (thanks to Orochi Gill for pointing it out:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=56668
http://stopforumspam.com/search?q=SandraJohnson
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 09, 2010, 11:26:00 pm
Sayonara
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=46284

Ignorant +1posting in Fighting Game threads + flame baiting.

/me pushes tampon back in

HURRRR
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 11, 2010, 01:16:42 am
Banned
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=28161

Porn spamming.

Who the hell comes back after almost a year to do that? This looks like a job for Harriet the Spy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on April 11, 2010, 01:19:47 am
Sayonara
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=46284

Ignorant +1posting in Fighting Game threads + flame baiting.

/me pushes tampon back in

HURRRR
That's luigi1632 as well, i have no issue with this. He's still a fuckwit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 11, 2010, 01:20:43 am
Huh?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 13, 2010, 12:42:41 am
How the hell am I supposed to get my ban fix if you guys keep doing it?

No seriously, thank you to the new mods for taking care of things.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on April 21, 2010, 04:39:51 am
luigi187412897 wants the posting limit removed

voted against removal
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on April 21, 2010, 05:35:52 am
No because he's STILL an awful poster and needs the control to keep him quiet.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 21, 2010, 08:54:45 am
Nope. Not until he is 18
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 22, 2010, 12:42:35 am
Also against it. Posts in Random Topic about his fing forum again reinforce the resounding NO.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on April 22, 2010, 03:16:15 am
This is the person currently known as shunu, someone turn it back on, i think it's off right now and bloody hell.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 22, 2010, 03:23:08 am
Shunu has no relation to Lugi1632 at all. That being said, he's just as annoying and disruptive.

Strike 2.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 23, 2010, 03:32:54 am
I banned a bot named wbmy2010.

I noticed Three weird things. One, he is no longer in the memberlist.

Two, When I removed his post it didn't go in the trash, it is just gone.

Three, None of this appears in the moderation log.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 23, 2010, 09:59:33 am
I usually delete the bots while letting the ban remain, thats why I ask people to point out bot profiles for me to delete them. ( when I delete their accounts the posts go up in smoke too )
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 23, 2010, 08:27:54 pm
So it wasn't a forum problem then? You took care of it?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 24, 2010, 03:26:20 am
yeah.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 26, 2010, 08:50:36 am
Bot banned (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=57291)

Nothing left but a lifeless husk. Do what you will, Iced, you sick perverted FREAK!!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 26, 2010, 11:17:54 am
"licks fingers clean"
You know you find me quite fetching.  Hmph.Dont deny it!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on April 26, 2010, 06:33:11 pm
OMG, I didn't know you were into that kind of stuff!!  :o
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 26, 2010, 09:26:29 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115111.40
how many of those persons got talked to or banned? The reports all say solved but I dont see anyone smacking people around for teasing a dude until he snapped and claiming he was raping his daughter.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 26, 2010, 09:38:19 pm
Topic starter was muted for the weekend (on friday) after his blow up. I didn't notice any other reports regarding the topic all weekend. Pretty much everyone in that topic is shameful past the blow-up post though, I didn't deal with it for the entirety and now I regret it, guess I should be more of a hardass to "regulars", although I like to give them the benefit of the doubt...

I blame the work + warcraft combo.

edit: ALTHOUGH, I did post in the thread, telling people to stop replying to it, guess that was ignored.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 26, 2010, 10:18:35 pm
Iced. The topic starter is being a jerk, and that invited all the other jerks out of the woodwork.

If you want I can pm the 25 or so jerk users who responded to their kindred minded user name ace, or I can just warn him.

Its hard to defend someone who starts throwing "Retard" around at the first, Compilation comment.

In short, If he wasn't an asshat, the usual asshats wouldn't have any troll bait. Even shorter, he is a troll.

The comment that started it all.

Orochi, Do You F*ucking Smoke Crack?

Look what section this is in you stupid f*cking hater......

Eat my
Dick
I plowed your Mom
Tell me what I'm getting for Father'.....
S Day


...................Cunt


Thanks Evil (Sweet letters, you like Thunder Man too?)


and was a response to this.

Compilation senses tingling!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 26, 2010, 10:24:22 pm
A total fucking asshole (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=52551) (get a better name)
home32 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=6474)
Darkflare (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=54309)

For your behavior and messages posted in the Saleemugen (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115111) topic, you can also enjoy a 3 day break from the forums.

Shamrock: Please read the report regarding that post you linked to. He was also banned for 3 days, my post telling everyone to cease posts in the thread was also ignored, please do not advocate unfriendly behavior in my our forum TYVM
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 26, 2010, 10:25:12 pm
He had already been banned for his behaviour, he then tried to act better, and instead he was flamebaited. "YOU RAPE YOUR DAUGHTER"? seriously?

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 26, 2010, 10:34:48 pm
I see. I was unaware of the ban. but then there is this.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115116.0 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115116.0)

His response was more name calling yesterday and with only seeing his behavior with out knowledge of a previous ban he looks like the one a fault.

In fact he still is. He responds with name calling out the ass and then he reports? His behavior still sucks.

But hey if you said not post there. Ban ban ban your heart's desire.

Oh, and as far as me advocating. Give me a break. Most of the people in that thread were banned by me for name calling/trolling at least once already.

I try to solve problems. I look at that thread and I see that ace is the problem and I don't see much improvement from him.

But give the rape kid a warning or a ban whatever. He did go to far.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 26, 2010, 10:36:16 pm
still, he was called out as raping his daughter, take in account that he isnt a english speaker, and for him, what is happening is that he entered a forum, tried to share something, and had people jump on him and accuse him of RAPING his daughter.
Its just normal he was pissed off.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 26, 2010, 10:39:43 pm
He didn't seem to mind telling people "I plowed your Mom"

But it does not matter. I'll go ahead and clean that whole thread.

Something that should have been done from the first ban I might add.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 26, 2010, 10:42:55 pm
Ace Thunder was also PMed shortly before the bans happened. Personal attacks are quite different from saying someone is a "retard" or a "noob". Regardless, the situation is taken care of, and if more arises, then it will continue to get taken care of.

Thanks for the link to that topic, because Cashman (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=40322) also resorted to unprovoked, personal attacks and can also take a 3 day break.

THAT THREAD IS ALREADY DELETED ANYWAYS BTW

You're not piecing the events together chronologically, Shamrock, hopefully this helps.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 26, 2010, 10:52:36 pm
I restored it with only Ace's post. That was not easy, because it seems there are bugs in the split topic option. I had to merge it with something older in the recycling bin because you can't split the first post of a topic. I would have done it the other way around and split all the the others but the arrows disappear when trying to split more that one. I think it has to do with stuff going so far off the page that you can't scroll over all the way.

Another new forum bug it seems.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 27, 2010, 01:09:07 am
Ace is now restricted edit.

I couldn't have made it more clear. Look for yourselves.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115237.new#new (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115237.new#new)

I have no Idea how many post a day that is fyi.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 27, 2010, 01:29:06 am
restricted edit is the edit that disallows you from editing your posts, I think you meant to give him post limitation, that one you got to tell val to apply
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 27, 2010, 01:32:30 am
Bloody hell. lol.

In that case I'm given him a 3 day ban. Val.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 27, 2010, 02:07:12 am
What a Monday, I need some wine.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on April 27, 2010, 02:16:06 am
why can't users just behave sensibly so we don't need to do loads of work all the time cleaning up for them. Why can't Iced and tempest just do everything. I only want power not the responsibility...

Wait, did you mean the alcohol?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 27, 2010, 03:23:32 am
Of course.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 27, 2010, 10:37:01 pm

sorry what i did please unbann me

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=114810.msg1099582#msg1099582

This.This is what you did, even after mods warned to stop the namecalling, you went and insulted someone blatantly. Do you think this is a good way to act to others?


NO!! the guy had stole things from screenpacks


Read the rules.
"stealing" , specially when they are honest about their sources, is nothing that anyone gets banned over. ^
Being offensive to others however. Is.


Le sigh.
Dear users, please refrain from being offensive towards others. Pretty please? With sugar on top and a dash too much honey.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 28, 2010, 03:43:23 pm
(yah yah, everybody hates Mario, Nintendo Italian character, enough said xD).
No, Italians kick ass.

Only fags hate mario
huuuh that sounded like a non offensive joke yeah, i dont think that deserved a ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 28, 2010, 04:40:41 pm
Unban him if you want but, You might want to have a look at his post history. Especially all the ones that are currently in the trash.

Or do we not look at post history anymore? Is it ok to derail a thread now?

Drunk Ryu has shown great improvement from his permaban. That three days is a reminder.

But if you found that joke funny, after all the problems that thread has had, and after 1 warning, 1 banning, and one "Stay on topic". Then unban away.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 28, 2010, 04:41:36 pm
I agree with your post and action after the explanation.
It was uneeded and a tense situation to begin with.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 28, 2010, 04:58:25 pm
For questioning Shamrock's ULTIMATE POWER, I hereby ban Iced for 3days. I also declare today, worship Shamrock day.  ;D

I can see why it was questioned. It wasn't like I gave a explanation in that thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 28, 2010, 06:40:18 pm
After checking out in more detail( couldnt sooner) , his late post story isnt that bad. didnt you overdid it a bit there? Oo;
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 28, 2010, 06:47:53 pm
Fuck man, make up your mind.  ;P

Actually yes I did. I should have looked closer at those dates. So he hasn't been posting that much lately. So he chose to make one of his few posts in months in that thread? Why? I'm still suspect.

Anyhow, handle it however.

Tell him if he keeps pming admin I'm going to ban him for a post he made last year.  ;D
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 28, 2010, 06:52:04 pm
gonna give him a pass for now, but keep him tracked if you wish, just that didnt warrant if he wasnt posting before.  ( I thought he was one of the persons teasing the dude before, apparently not ?)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 28, 2010, 06:57:35 pm
No he was not. I don't need to keep track on him more than any other. I would recommend he stays out of that thread though.

I still say his history sucks. I don't care if there a long breaks in it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 28, 2010, 07:01:36 pm
I think you took his side because you are mad that your penis looks like a Innkeeper worm.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 28, 2010, 07:04:03 pm
lmao
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on April 30, 2010, 10:19:28 am
Bot banned
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=57406

Your move.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 30, 2010, 10:32:18 am
one of these days, someone is gonna post a block of text I read up and think its too stupid to be a person and i will delete the account outright thinking its a bot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 30, 2010, 10:46:57 am
I permabanned Ace Thunder. He is obviously hopeless with three bans in less than a week.

This newest post.

Excuse me, but, other than your poor "editing" what exactly did you actually MAKE?
It seems that all you really did was take a screenpack, throw together a bunch of random characters (which you pretty much changed the size, which is not difficult, and changed the display pictures and some of the icons.) Nothing in the video is technically YOURS, you made absolutely nothing from scratch at all. Unless you can show a character that you made, FROM SCRATCH, you will get no respect from the mugen community, I am not Trolling at all, I am just puzzled why you claim to have done so much when really you have done shit all. And if you call me a hater, than just Fuck off because I'm not Flaming anybody.
Good Day to you sir.

Dude first who the Fuck are you talking to?

Second: MAKE? FROM SCRATCH? DONE SO MUCH?

Another troll pulling reasons out of his ass to tell me to fuck off......

[size=4pt]And I'll get banned if I say it back..........[/size]

Where did it say I MADE MUGEN? And where the hell did it say I wrote the Bible\Saleemugen?

This getting Pathetic!!!!

I don't know if your hating or not but I know your a Crackhead for flaming me in the edits  I'm not editing my own works?

Dude really......?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on April 30, 2010, 11:00:14 am
Actually lets make it month. One more chance. I'm feeling nice because everyone is bitching at me lately.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 01, 2010, 07:59:33 am
Wasn't this guy banned or something?

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115405.0;topicseen (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115405.0;topicseen)

Please who ever it is that has history with this guy, send him a pm or something
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 01, 2010, 08:05:56 am
I banned him earlier this week, but his jackassery was actually coherent whereas this is just retarded.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 01, 2010, 08:07:01 am
mechylol?

I forget. We've had previous problems though as he was randomly insulting people before iirc.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 01, 2010, 04:32:52 pm
I think he's role playing to live up to his current name, and in that case, he should stop.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 02, 2010, 06:06:50 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115435.msg1109413#msg1109413
hey darkflare is being a total shithead again
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 02, 2010, 07:01:01 am
Bans don't work on him. I'm voting that Val limits his post to three a day. Maybe then he would save them for something more constructive.

Since bans don't work the only other alternative seems drastic on a new user.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 04, 2010, 06:14:09 am
Iced. Gill gave me this http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=57528 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=57528) Sig is real funny, but I don't want to take action unless it posts bott crap. So I give it to you.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 04, 2010, 10:07:38 am
That's not feedback. That's not just opinion. That's bullying, and I don't like it at all. Jok hasn't given any attitude and the attitude that Darkflare is giving to him is just ridiculously unnecessary. This is a Mugen Forum, not a Mugen Bootcamp.

I feel like banning him for 2 weeks, but I think limiting his post to ONE a day is more torturous. Not that I'm an evil person who likes to torture people.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 04, 2010, 10:17:28 am
post limiting is done  internally by val, and val is busy with exams, if you feel strongly about him send him a pm explaining to him what you think of his posting methods, his answer ( or lack of thereof) will give you the clue as what do do next.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 04, 2010, 10:19:31 am
No need. Have you read the Too Strict thread? He doesn't listen to anything we say to him.

@ Rajaa. Your Avatar tortures me and you don't seem to care, you sick motha fucka.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 04, 2010, 10:47:04 am
It's either permaban, cos lets be honest his attitude is really really bad. People tell you "this isn't the way to behave" and he continues doing so is more or less gtfo. Or we wait till val shows up and limit his posts to 1 every 48 hours or something. If he STILL posts in releases with only one post, he's here just to cause trouble, and we can permaban then.

Depends, how many chances do we actually wanna give him?

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 04, 2010, 10:49:32 am
As many as possible, education on how to deal with others doesnt just pop out of the ground, banning him should be a last resort thing. Just like it was with others as offensive or more than him. =|
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 04, 2010, 11:05:44 am
No, but the one thread we have where he's moaning about his ban just proves how little he wants to listen.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 05, 2010, 08:13:06 am
Eww eww eww kill it.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=57559 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=57559)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 05, 2010, 02:09:16 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=57495

Another bot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 06, 2010, 12:45:56 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=50060

Shamrock banned the user because of horrible post history. He appealed the ban incorrectly by making reports. Take note of this one: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115615.0

One week is a bit too much, though. But his attitude seems to be increasing it. So I tried talking to him, so we could at least come to an understanding, and perhaps reduce the ban to 1 or 2 days or no days at all.

I sent the user a personal message:

Spoiler: The Personal Message (click to see content)

I got no reply, yet...



Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 06, 2010, 12:51:55 am
PM'ed him earlier as well. I got no response. If he makes another report in order to post, i'm going to extend it up again.

I've already rolled it down to 3, because that's the normal first offence handslap. Continued being a dick while banned is a method of evasion, and as such, add's further to length.

Perhaps we should have a short discussion on what sort of ban lengths are actually OK.

1 day is a quick shut up
3 day's is the norm and a slap for being bad
1 week for being more bad
1 month
3 months
permanent

The problem is defining when these are OK. Obviously bots are always permanent. As should be anyone who shows up and posts porn/shock for the purpose of offending people.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 06, 2010, 12:56:02 am
God, chats overload.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 06, 2010, 12:59:46 am
Here's a question though. Should repeated offenses before a ban be counted as a "first infraction"? Because I don't think they should.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 06, 2010, 01:05:52 am
Eat a Dick? Really? lol. Perhaps 7 was to much even with his post history.

But

And I already PM'd him and he did it again anyway.

Oh well, I'll just sit in the corner while the rest of you figure it out because I'm a jew waiting for my raping and extermination lol.

Is being a jew an insult? Why would that piss me off lol.

@ Tempest

They should be counted as one. The idea is to change behavior not punish really. Sometime I forget that too lol. Although in this case, I don't think his behavior will change. I guess they feel different.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 06, 2010, 01:10:38 am
Well I mean, I did ask him to stop once or twice before you banned him. I'm saying it's fine to ban for longer than a day their first time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 06, 2010, 01:19:42 am
Too long a banning can cause resentment if it's percieved as undeserved. It just means they come back, act up straight away, and get banned again which is not an environment we wish to foster.

Reading through, aside from the tremendous disruption he caused, he didn't do any heavy insulting and the worst was the "eat a dick" comment.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 06, 2010, 01:23:11 am
Generally, I think most bans can be perceived as undeserved by the users.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 06, 2010, 01:35:07 am
Done for the right reasons you can convince them of why the ban was justified and what of their actions caused it.

If you can't do that for any reason (like just disliking someone) then it's probably not justified. Generally you shouldn't ban anyone you're in direct conflict with at any time.

I tend to break that rule more often than i should.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 06, 2010, 03:36:35 am
That rule seems pretty bad.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 06, 2010, 03:49:57 am
Someone not involved should step in and do the banning. If you're annoyed with them, you're not objective enough and are banning due to the fact that you're pissed off with them, not because the userbase has an issue.

We all break it, but it's something to remember.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 07, 2010, 12:23:59 am
hawt stuff
im being sexually harassed!!! D:
Its both kinda flattering and deeply disturbing.

huh, im just gloating, carry on
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 08, 2010, 01:28:08 am
Spoiler: =O (click to see content)

Banned. One Week. I gave Orochi Gill the same warning and he didn't respond this way at all. All he said was that he has told Volzilla the same thing. Which he has.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 08, 2010, 01:30:10 am
I had a recent problem with him. I removed some flame in a thread at gill and he pm'd me all sorts of crap and reposted the stuff I removed.

So I agree fully with this. I warned him about it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 08, 2010, 01:31:14 am
Too much drama around this Orochi Gill character.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 08, 2010, 01:35:19 am
Yeah gill kinda pushes people's buttons. The problem is that he listens when we tell him to stop. Or should I say that is not the problem. Most of the people he has issue with is because of stuff he does outside the forum. Gill can be mean and vindictive.

Volzzilla, used to listen as well, but recently I guess he is just tired of the minor poking by Gill here because of youtube vids and such, so he is snapping.

I hate it when people bring stuff from other places here.

If you want I can send him another post saying be nice, but since the last one, he has been pretty nice.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 08, 2010, 01:36:27 am
I had a recent problem with him. I removed some flame in a thread at gill and he pm'd me all sorts of crap and reposted the stuff I removed.

So I agree fully with this. I warned him about it.
I banned him because he clearly stated that he would not listen to my warning no matter what, and that he would continue to disrupt the forum with his random shots and insults to Gill. He's also still mad because I beat him in chess and didn't give him an undo.

Too much drama around this Orochi Gill character.

Not too much, but a noticeable amount. I think he should continue to shape up on his attitude too. But he has never out right claimed that he would not consider moderators' warnings. I remember telling him to work on his attitude some time back, and I think he has significantly improved from the outright "flaming" in release areas. The only conflicts that comes to mind when I think if him are: That internet gang; Wolfmage; Volzilla.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 08, 2010, 01:40:07 am
Don't forget him and Guardian Angel he also has problems with infinity mugen team. The part that sucks is that the other people usually freak out and he stops.

He must have some magical way of just pissing the ever loving shit out some people.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 08, 2010, 07:56:59 am
We have a problem that I have not run into before. This user,

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=54427 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=54427)

Keeps necroing old topics and post badly in them as well. He has been doing it for a couple of days now. I sent a pm and he is doing it anyway.

I want some advice on this one. He is new so I don't want to go strait for a ban, but I'm just not seeing anything else I can do.

Anyone got any ideas on this one?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 08, 2010, 08:49:04 am
We have no real options. If he won't listen to a PM. Ban for a day.

Not being able to necrobump might hammer it in.

The other option of course is if his necro's are big, and stupid. Delete his posts. It'll de-bump the topic. He might notice after a while that he's not getting any answers and that his posts are gone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 08, 2010, 08:51:11 am
I've been deleting his post for more than a day now. You would think he would notice that no one responds by now.

If he does it again, I'm banning him for a day.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 08, 2010, 08:51:30 am
He's 12 and what is this
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 08, 2010, 10:12:32 am
necrobumping horribly old topics. If you read his posts, he doesn't type or act at all like he's 12. So either he's smart, and should be able to tell what shamrock is informing him of, or he's not actually 12. Or he's being obnoxious.

A polite "please stop bumping tremendously old topics" message having no effect. What else can you do? Let the forum of a year ago be the first thing on the page?

Now, if we could ban people from specific forums, that would be handy. No posting in wips/releases if you necrobump too much.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 08, 2010, 10:44:07 pm
Ask me for lottery numbers, I can tell the future. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=44508)

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 08, 2010, 10:59:30 pm
Ok. What are the lottery numbers Rajaa?  ;D
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 09, 2010, 01:10:43 am
What is that name even supposed to do?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 09, 2010, 06:20:44 am
I swear I don't even know.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 10, 2010, 09:10:30 am
Keep an eye on this user's posts.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=102 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=102)

The attitude I received in a pm for my warning makes me suspect there will be a future issue.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 10, 2010, 09:23:13 am
nevermind. Second pm Stated he had no intentions of listening or improving history and has a crappy attitude. Banned for a day.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 10, 2010, 09:45:30 am
Not sure if the issue itself was a bannable offense, but if he's being a dork in PMs, then there's nothing I can say to help his case. However, this reply (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112690.msg1115126#msg1115126) was pretty overkill, given the context of the situation. DIO is generally fairly reasonable, he has little tolerance for ignorance though :(

Can you post the PMs in question?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 10, 2010, 09:52:23 am
Well he needs to have more tolerance lol.

No the banning is the pm thing not that thread. Hell even the warning I gave him was about post history not so much that thread. Otherwise my in thread post would have been enough to solve sean's original report.

I don't know what the hell is so big about getting a polite warning.

This reminded me a lot of volzzilla.

Look users, if a mod gives you a warning, don't yell and scream about the other guy. We either gave him a warning too or we didn't feel we had to. Yelling and telling us about what so and so did, or what somebody else did a month ago, or whatever else you can come up with won't change the fact that we felt you needed to be Pm'd and or warned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 10, 2010, 10:16:00 am
And being unreasonable in response to a warning is a sure way to make things worse.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 10, 2010, 05:06:14 pm
I read the PMs and warnings and all it looks like to me is you banning him for having a conversation about his post history lol :P

And Sean sent me a huge overkill PM about this, which I don't think is worth reading since it's pretty much dealt with already!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 10, 2010, 09:07:28 pm
That's nice.

hmmmm, I could have swore that these are my toes.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 10, 2010, 10:00:18 pm
For the record, I'm not trying to "make an issue" out of this, this is just what I've observed, I'm not legally bound to keep my mouth shut or my fingers idle on this issue, so I decided to comment on it, nothing more, it was a day. Also, he doesn't talk through me, he talks to me, he's a friend and I know he knows better, but not knowing the full story before tattling seems to be a pattern lately so whatever, I wasn't stepping on your toes, just letting you know you might've taken it too far, not like you haven't done it to me in the past ::)

SeanAltly makes mountains out of molehills all the goddamn time and this isn't any different, kinda like what you're doing from my simple observation, yeesh, angry Americano
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 11, 2010, 09:33:36 pm
Who has been handling this guy?

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=52551 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=52551)

I though he was already banned so I was going to do it again, but to my surprise there was not one. So I removed the one I was giving because I figure someone else is handling this.

If not let me know so I can warn him or something?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 11, 2010, 09:36:12 pm
There was a previous ban on him before, for being involved in the Saleemugen thing. Is there something outside of the Fighting Game spam and dumb posts? There was no reason given on his current ban so I dunno.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 11, 2010, 09:39:38 pm
Oh hell I didn't remove any triggers. No that was my bad there he shouldn't have been banned 9Trying to find to modify and or look at the reasons). Push wrong button in search of a previous ban, he is not banned now.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 11, 2010, 09:42:03 pm
What the fuck?

I can't unban him. I removed the triggers but now it is talking about the previous ban when I try to fix it.

Note to self, don't trust the banning system to tell you about bans.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 11, 2010, 09:43:22 pm
Now it is magically gone. Whatever. Anyway, I'm sending him a Pm, hopefully he didn't see all that messing around.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 11, 2010, 10:39:03 pm
If you saved the ban, don't bother with the triggers and shit, just set it to "expired" and modify. Label it as "this was not intentional oops"

Err, for future reference.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 11, 2010, 11:52:42 pm
This is more annoying than the neko counters (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=53118). Also, this user has done things like rick rolls on the release board.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 12, 2010, 02:33:46 am
Has anyone sent a pm to him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 13, 2010, 02:19:37 am
Since nobody said anything I'm asuming not.

And his post history keeps getting better and better (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115682.msg1116722#msg1116722).

Sent a PM.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 13, 2010, 02:34:20 am
I sent him a pm a day ago about posting off topic.

He is on thin ice.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 13, 2010, 10:52:14 am
I was about to personally message him after reading what he said to me in the religion topic, then I read this thread. Any replies back from the personal messages.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 13, 2010, 11:32:51 am
No, but the fact that he was at least on topic in the religion thread is an improvement, even if he hasn't seemed to read the rules.

Hopefully from the mass attention that we are giving him, he improves.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 13, 2010, 10:54:24 pm
your English is atrocious.... I cant understand half of what you say.

Might as well just type in spanish. And have another member translate whatever the fuck your trying to say.


BTW.... These look like shit.

Can I ban him yet or what?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 14, 2010, 12:35:29 am
On the table.
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=115936.0
Go.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 15, 2010, 03:06:58 pm
I don't see a good reason to keep him around.

Also

Hey Gilbert go kill yourself.

sig I destroyed a couple of minutes ago said:
BIG UPS TO ALL MY HATERS +3
"If you hate me or what I do, you should probably kill yourself, Because I am Infinite and I am forever, and you are not."

Hell, he wasn't even bashed that hard. The worst thing i read on his thread was "kong styl with flashy effects"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 15, 2010, 05:16:40 pm
ban drunk ryu
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on May 19, 2010, 08:06:38 pm
I've banned this guy for three days.

He is banned at Gamestop as a quick google of his user name shows.

I see a permaban coming quick. He gets off on spamming forums and such.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=38148 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=38148)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 20, 2010, 04:56:43 am
hahahahaha those threads
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on May 28, 2010, 10:41:59 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=58250

Guess
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 28, 2010, 10:55:06 am
pouf.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 29, 2010, 10:58:52 pm
who removed stormex's ban
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 29, 2010, 11:01:24 pm
you didnt ban stormex, you banned thunderex
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=53118
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 29, 2010, 11:20:06 pm
i then decided both should be banned for being bad posters and left it that way
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 29, 2010, 11:59:51 pm
if you decided you never acted on it, the moderation log only shows thunderex
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 30, 2010, 12:23:03 am
i did post about it but it was not in this thread

you should've asked me about it regardless since it was a ban i set
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 30, 2010, 12:26:25 am
Added one day to stormex's ban so they're even.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 30, 2010, 12:27:43 am
i did post about it but it was not in this thread

you should've asked me about it regardless since it was a ban i set

You are getting me wrong, I never touched the bans, I was just cross checking the moderation log to see who had removed them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 30, 2010, 12:30:08 am
you made it seem like you did

either way a lenghty pm conversation i had with him made it clear that he was banned along with his brother which means he willingly evaded the ban so this only makes matters worse for him
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on June 03, 2010, 02:26:00 pm
Eww.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=58433 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=58433)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on June 03, 2010, 09:54:18 pm
An Error Has Occurred!
The user whose profile you are trying to view does not exist.

Some more info for the uninformed would be nice.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 03, 2010, 10:40:55 pm
Bot, I think. His account got deleted.

Also, Shamrock remove the quote from the report. Not like a lot of people are going to see it, but do it anyways.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on June 03, 2010, 11:56:09 pm
Yeah the report slipped my mind. @ Tempest, next time I'll say, Eww Bot :sugoi:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on June 03, 2010, 11:56:48 pm
EW
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 07, 2010, 04:47:07 am
If someone still find Bigsally's IM GAY AND I LIEK RAPE AND OROCHIGILL gimmick amusing please raise a hand.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 07, 2010, 04:53:33 am
It's only ever funny when it's part of a blindingly stupid topic. Any time it's in an otherwise serious topic, it's stupid.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on June 07, 2010, 05:11:13 am
tell him to drop it and if he doesn't comply ban him

it definitely got old a while ago
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: TempesT on June 07, 2010, 05:39:42 am
Yeah, and plus people who are actually homosexual are getting offended so, all the more reason! I remember that guy from like... years ago lol, I liked it when he didn't post.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on June 07, 2010, 05:41:34 am
i honestly found some of his posts in stupid threads funny years ago but That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 06:52:42 am
I usually just remove the posts that go to far or are in treads that don't have an all that's left  type death going on.

Most of his jokes suck but every once in awhile, he will post something that has me rolling on the floor. Rare, but it happens.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 07, 2010, 10:19:09 am
If someone still find Bigsally's IM GAY AND I LIEK RAPE AND OROCHIGILL gimmick amusing please raise a hand.
no hands here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 07, 2010, 12:05:11 pm
I always found them stupid and I never laughed at his posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on June 07, 2010, 11:06:51 pm
This might be one of worst excuses I've heard for being a shit poster.

I'm glad you are going to get rid of BigSally.
He's one of the reasons I have a lot of shitposts in my post history, because when ever he appears, I feel the urge to do shit like *cocks shotgun* and other stuff related to role-playing.

If he's gone, I may improve a bit, i've shown a little bit, because he's on my ignore list..
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2010, 12:46:42 am
Excuse is lame. Poster can't take responsibility for his own posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 08, 2010, 03:53:17 am
Talking about luigi
I'm not much experinced in shading or even drawing for that matter, even in real life  :( .

I remember Girlfriends' lil bro(GLB) mentioned this to me once..
"2. Whenever you release material,link to your forum, this way it will get more hits then just being in your sig."

That's why I don't exactly put a lot of work in the stuff I make(with the exception of my horror music.)
But even before I started with the forum stuff again, I worked on LucasX3(Dark).

But, I'll look more in depth with the palletes.
Releasing stuff just for the sake of getting hits on his site is an awful use of our relese board. He knows how much we dislike his constant adverstisiment and has been told several times not to do so.

Filtered his forum, removed the link in his signature and profile and banned him for 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on June 08, 2010, 05:48:20 am
excellent
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 12, 2010, 05:06:47 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=58708

Bot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 12, 2010, 10:39:55 pm
why r u sweatin me, u must have no life. im just trying to release something for others to use in their mugen and this section id edits and add ons

Because I told him to stop making multiple threads for his small sprite swap; and because I explained to him that he posted his topic in the inappropriate section. I was going to ban him for 2 days for being a complete douche to me out of the blue, but I decided to just tell him he was being moderated.


Modification:
Turns out he might get banned anyway: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=117010.0
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 15, 2010, 03:58:46 pm
hey rajaaboy, by chance do you still have the old rajaa chun li?? ive been looking for it everywhere and cant find it. if so can you pleeeeease send it to me??
No, I'm not going to send her to you.
NO IM NOT GOING TO SEND U HER (sucks on his pacifier) man u really got problems, i have no idea what your problem is with me but u really need to get over yourself
dont worry i got her anyways thanks alot ha ha boy
What are you talking about? I just said I'm not going to send her to you because I don't feel like. I really don't care if you have her. You could have even used the request area, which you should use for requests like this in the first place.

I'm going to ban you for being disrespectful (for no reason at all) to me in personal messages and to people in the thread you posted, and I've warned you to stop various times. You need to calm down. Nobody is out to get you.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=117012.0 - Read the bottom of the quote

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=117010.0

He's recently been disrespectful (for no reason at all even prior to the first quoted message) to me in personal messages and to people in the thread(s) he posted, even after I've warned him various times to stop in the thread and in messages. He needs to calm down.

Slap on the wrist: Banned him for three days. Thanks to the bug Val hasn't fixed, he can't send me the hate-personal-messages I know he will attempt to send to try to convince me that I have no life. ;D
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 15, 2010, 04:03:16 pm
doubled.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 15, 2010, 04:04:05 pm
Why? Because.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Shamrock on June 15, 2010, 08:41:33 pm
You are a dick Rajaa.

I mean how dare you take the time to create a character and release it, but not send it to me when I tell you.

If fact, you better send one of your characters to iced o I'm banning you. You freaking creation nazi. Also, I want you to create a Rose that can deflect all projectiles or else.

You have no class.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 15, 2010, 08:51:55 pm
Fuck off Shamrock. Rajaa has to update his Ryo to make him AOF OVA accurate.

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5567/artoffighting.jpg)

BTW, ban this guy  (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=24041)if he does something stupid

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on June 15, 2010, 11:19:01 pm
Slap on the wrist: Banned him for three days. Thanks to the bug Val hasn't fixed, he can't send me the hate-personal-messages I know he will attempt to send to try to convince me that I have no life. ;D

that is.. actually not a bug, it's a feature :lugoi:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 15, 2010, 11:39:41 pm
Always planning one step ahead.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 16, 2010, 06:47:33 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=48636


reported pm:
Im going to take a shit in ur mouth :)



Banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 16, 2010, 08:16:25 pm
You are a dick Rajaa.

I mean how dare you take the time to create a character and release it, but not send it to me when I tell you.

If fact, you better send one of your characters to iced o I'm banning you. You freaking creation nazi. Also, I want you to create a Rose that can deflect all projectiles or else.

You have no class.
You have been recently harassing me and have not learned to respect other members properly. Banned for 365 days. ;D
that is.. actually not a bug, it's a feature :lugoi:
I love you!
Im going to take a shit in ur mouth :)

Bandeded

What the... He just randomly decided to sent that to somebody?


Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 16, 2010, 09:14:36 pm
Apparently was already doing the same on other foruns, when he saw said person here he started again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 22, 2010, 12:26:56 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=47138
someone process this guy if possible, for now he is banned with everything to the max, but its because i have no time right now to deal with it.
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=117288.0
when done please move to thrash, if not done when i return from what im doing i will deal with it myself.
thanks
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 22, 2010, 12:35:22 am
He's rude, and he doesn't seem likely to change or care because he doesn't post that much. With that said, the few posts that he has made are all bad, none are polite or respectful, many of them are stupid, and he should be banned forever like he already is. He doesn't need a process.

Modification:

We dealt with him before. I remember it. He definitely doesn't need a process. We determined that he was a troll already. I'm not sure where to look for the discussion, though. But yeah, he is just ridiculous.

I still look at this topic and say to myself, 'This guy can't be serous': http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=109798.msg1030267#msg1030267
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 22, 2010, 01:05:37 am
alright but he probably doesnt need to be under a fullban. gonna make him unable to post but able to browse. Thanks
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 22, 2010, 09:31:35 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=59009

Bot
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 26, 2010, 05:50:35 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=59134

Bot
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 02, 2010, 05:02:05 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=59293

Another bot detected by Orochigill V 3.09
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 07, 2010, 10:32:06 pm
Changed Luigi's ban to permanent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 10, 2010, 09:09:02 am
Banned dieze917

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=117108.20

If you don't think it's a double account of Vernard then feel free to remove the ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on July 10, 2010, 06:51:55 pm
don't use full bans unless the user did something extremely extremely very very wrong
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 11, 2010, 01:16:26 am
well in this case i dont think it matters much since the guy was complaining that he kept finding this website on mugen and it was horrible, that way he cant see this horrible horrible website.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 11, 2010, 01:33:55 am
Real double accounts should be permabanned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on July 12, 2010, 05:20:16 pm
home32 is still posting shit can we just ban him
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on July 12, 2010, 06:34:12 pm
I concur.
He is really annoying lately.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 13, 2010, 06:22:38 am
home32 is still posting shit can we just ban him

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4177/afrofacew.png)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 13, 2010, 10:59:56 am
I don't think we should ban him. He's posting crap, but it's not bannable crap. It's annoying crap. It's please don't post if that's all you're gonna post crap. Or please don't post if you don't know what you're talking about crap. But not yet bannable crap.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 13, 2010, 10:43:12 pm
How about the "3 mods have told you to stop posting crap" crap that he's ignoring?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 14, 2010, 01:44:32 am
It's low priority so it shouldn't be at the top of the page.

Other topics not being active isn't our fault/problem.

I'm still remembering this.



lol, mods are mad.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 14, 2010, 01:50:35 am
I'll give him a 3 weeks long ban the next time he posts some 4chan garbage. I mad.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 14, 2010, 03:55:22 am
Why you mad? ;D

Well, I guess since he's been ignoring moderators' warnings and making empy promises to stop, a ban wouldn't be too out of the question. I still didn't see any of his crap to be ban worthy, though. I usually think it should be at Ohsky's level or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 14, 2010, 04:13:57 am
You make a polite request for someone to stop being disruptive/off topic/posting rubbish and most people would do so. If he's not going to, we show him that's not how we expect people to act.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on July 20, 2010, 07:43:35 pm
home32 is banned to the surprise of nobody
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 20, 2010, 08:30:23 pm
I take it that these are the most recent sources:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=117607.140
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=118296.msg1156499#msg1156499
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on July 20, 2010, 08:34:40 pm
the last one more than anything else
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on July 22, 2010, 02:29:04 am
starting tomorrow, I'll read here again. promise.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 22, 2010, 05:06:39 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=59949 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=59949) bot
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=59952 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=59952) nother one
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 27, 2010, 12:41:06 am
Pmed RedHurricane24 over his insultive pm, told him to not do that kind of stuff again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on July 28, 2010, 06:35:56 am
drunk ryu banned
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 31, 2010, 04:42:24 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60202

Bot
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 03, 2010, 06:14:06 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60347

Was reported to be a bot by a member. I'd say so judging by the signature.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 03, 2010, 04:07:54 pm
Deleted mkversus THIRD account he started since yesterday.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 06, 2010, 01:46:36 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60404
double account.

claims he forgot his password, I resetted his password, told him to recreate his threads on his own account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 08, 2010, 08:47:40 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60404
double account.

claims he forgot his password, I resetted his password, told him to recreate his threads on his own account.

kept using his double account so i banned it, i pondered deleting it but decided not to.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 09, 2010, 12:55:58 pm
Running wild banned for flame baiting again. He had been told to stop flamebaiting people.
Ban will last four days.
if anyone thinks its too much feel free to change it around.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 09, 2010, 11:05:44 pm
Too little if anything. Someone warned him earlier and got a very sarcastic "will stop" message. Which he hasn't done.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 10, 2010, 07:33:54 am
botspam

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60588
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 11, 2010, 04:08:46 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60591

Bot
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 11, 2010, 04:18:47 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60628

Bot
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 12, 2010, 10:48:24 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60697

tob
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 16, 2010, 01:06:20 am
Don't post in MC2's thread anymore. That's an order.

Stop posting nonsense that you know is ridiculous. Seriously, something is wrong with the community because someone is making palettes? Get real. Your type of posting and attitude is not welcome, and It'd be appreciated if you were to stop.

If you continue to post in his topic with stupidly, unhelpful, malicious comments. I will ban you.

To this guy: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=54410

I will update when/if I get a reply.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on August 16, 2010, 09:41:49 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60824

Domo arigato
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on August 16, 2010, 07:00:29 pm
?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on August 16, 2010, 07:06:21 pm
The user whose profile you are trying to view does not exist.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on August 16, 2010, 07:07:43 pm
(http://i36.tinypic.com/30nfzmw.gif)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on August 16, 2010, 07:11:18 pm
You need to listen to more Styx.


Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 16, 2010, 07:15:25 pm
Mr. Roboto!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 16, 2010, 07:30:23 pm
The user whose profile you are trying to view does not exist.
One day one of you is gonna link a totally normal user and im gonna obliterate them on one of my cleanup phases.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 16, 2010, 07:38:49 pm
-Link removed-

Bot
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on August 16, 2010, 07:41:25 pm
And then there was nothing...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on August 16, 2010, 07:46:52 pm
 :gonk:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 16, 2010, 10:50:42 pm
Maybe I should remove that link. A member messaged me telling me he isn't a bot.  :P

And this: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=119429.msg1173732;boardseen#new Now located in the crap thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 16, 2010, 11:08:23 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60842
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=47998
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=33891
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=54061
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60694

Several alternate accounts. Do I have to mention the obvious similarities? If anyone feels I am mistaken, please let me know!

What to do?



And this time, seriously, a bot:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60464
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 16, 2010, 11:47:41 pm
Block every account except the one with most posts, send him a pm questioning his sexuality.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 17, 2010, 02:00:28 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60845

This guy keeps making accounts, i already told him to go back to his first one, he told me he didnt have the password anymore, i changed the password and gave it to him.
He now claims that his account is bugged. Someone deal with him or im gonna start deleting all of his accounts except the first one.
Actually i will start right now deleting this one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 17, 2010, 05:25:11 am
Bannedededed all of those accounts except Iggy Puke. Sent this personal message to Iggy Puke and Rotten Rudy:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 17, 2010, 06:01:22 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60861

Legal bot.

Btw Orochi Gill noted that most bots nowadays use realistic english names (Stanley, Chelsea)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 17, 2010, 11:21:00 pm
it'd be nice if you can unban my Rotten Rudy profile. go ahead and delete Iggy Puke.

He doesn't deny it. And he just wants to keep his newer account, "Rotten Rudy." So admins, take care of this profile stuff!

here's the post with his accounts: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112183.msg1174473#msg1174473
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 17, 2010, 11:40:12 pm
actually he just denied it.
Rotten Rudy has reported the below personal message, sent by Rajaa, for the following reason:
Those Other Accounts Are My Younger Brothers! I Recently Made This One!

Other recipients of the message include: Iggy Puke (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=47998)

Below are the original contents of the personal message which was reported:
You are discovered to have several alternate accounts. Several of your accounts have "Rudy"in their names, have the same IP address and are from El Paso, Texas. This even springs over to the user-name Iggy Puke, which is the only one of your accounts that has not been banned since it's the one that has been used the most.

If you think I have made a bad decision, then please say so to any member of the staff. As it stands, you obviously thought it'd be a good idea to have several alternate accounts--evidence is too strong to say otherwise.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 17, 2010, 11:44:37 pm
Brothers
Oh, please.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 17, 2010, 11:47:51 pm
the band of brothers and cousins, amazing how they all just register to supply the same ideas as their siblings and all happen to always post the same way and hold the same interests.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 17, 2010, 11:51:10 pm
To clarify:

He sends me a pm telling me to delete the others so he can keep the newest one, without denying the alternate account accusation, then he reports my personal message to admins saying otherwise? His brother's name is Rudy, too?

If he's going to be confused about it, then he's obviously lying somewhere. Maybe he shouldn't have any account to post with at all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 18, 2010, 12:23:58 am
btw never keep "the newest one" always keep the one with most posts/oldest/hasmorerelevancetodatabase . I can edit any details that he wants changed to the older one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 18, 2010, 04:16:39 am
So what steps should be taken now? I mean, it's your area dealing with profiles.  :P


http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60894

Bot
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 18, 2010, 03:16:32 pm
I took care of "freek", merged all his accounts together, tell me which account i should leave behind and i will merge all the others onto that one for rudy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 18, 2010, 11:49:20 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=47998

I think that he should use the Iggy Puke account. He can then change his name to any variation of Rudy, if he so pleases.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 19, 2010, 01:33:12 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=47998

I think that he should use the Iggy Puke account. He can then change his name to any variation of Rudy, if he so pleases.

merging, is this guy also an alt?
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=44512
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 19, 2010, 01:59:14 am
I wouldn't think so. He actually has a msn and yahoo set up. I'm trying to remember if one of Iggy Puke's accounts had that same personal text, though. Probably doesn't matter, anyway. If it starts being used again we'll be able to figure it out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 19, 2010, 02:23:36 am
merged rajaa and cyan paul, that way we have twice the manpower of a mod.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on August 19, 2010, 03:43:34 am
Please Iced merge my account with Vans' and walt's, that way I will be the ultimate KOF mugen creator.

* INB4 thedge's account is merged with Beppu's
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 19, 2010, 09:48:09 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=59629

Bot?

 o_O
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on August 19, 2010, 10:00:49 pm
Signature screams bot.
-------------------------------------------------------
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60675
Bot too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 20, 2010, 03:08:48 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60966

Sambot

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=60967

Sambot 2
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on August 20, 2010, 04:17:13 am
Done done done and... done.

I'm unsure about the one Thedge linked to, are they making intelligent bots now or what
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 20, 2010, 04:24:07 am
i was in the middle of deleting the thedge one, what is happening nowadays with bots is this, they hire several nigerians ( or whatever) , have them register as many foruns as possible and make one two normal posts to test the waters and see how much traffic the page holds, if its enough to be interesting they take a bit of time to then start spamming the boards with scripts.

So, yeah, the bot accounts are now human controlled.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on August 20, 2010, 04:47:29 am
holy shit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 21, 2010, 04:30:25 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=119554.msg1177150#msg1177150

Warned. He's done this shit before anyway.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 21, 2010, 04:43:10 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61009

Bot (http://www.stopforumspam.com/search.php?q=lilianpreciosa)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 21, 2010, 05:59:44 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=119554.msg1177150#msg1177150

Warned. He's done this shit before anyway.
Oh, I had deleted Mulambo's post before I actually read this thread. :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 21, 2010, 06:20:10 am
I've done that before as well because they're wastes of time, but if he's going to ignore something and be a smartass about it as well, then he can have something a bit more official.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 21, 2010, 07:40:05 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61014

My friend Tyrone says hi! (bot)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 21, 2010, 08:06:22 am
Oh, i just hit the banhammer on that too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on August 22, 2010, 04:25:45 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61049 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61049)
ban evasion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 22, 2010, 04:28:22 am
It's just me or the moderation log didn't record solved reports until now?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 22, 2010, 05:22:41 am
It's been doing it since Val installed the mod to the updated forum, I believe.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 23, 2010, 12:44:54 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61075

Read the nick, no need for further explanations.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 24, 2010, 11:04:59 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61126

If this isn't a bot, then what is it?



http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61146

bot
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 27, 2010, 02:48:01 am
Banned blue_blood for 30 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 27, 2010, 04:07:37 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61210

Super bot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on August 27, 2010, 05:48:25 am
Banned blue_blood for 30 days.

Link me.

Has she been banned before?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 27, 2010, 05:55:52 am
Well, it's kinda hard since this probably is carried over from some other forum or personal conversations but it kinda starts getting nasty here :

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=118073.msg1176496#msg1176496

and ends in her last post today.

No, she's never been banned before. She requested it in the past, several times though. Also Iced and Titiln told her to stop trying to stir shit up a couple of times this week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on August 27, 2010, 06:09:31 am
I see, from what I gather there seems to be some kind of grudge thing going on here? (darkgirl - blue_blood?)

I know her temper can be difficult to deal with, but we also have to consider that the fights themselves are also kept alive by other people in the thread itself, she's not to blame for everything (although she does tend to poke around and cause other people to explode). She has also been poked by others in the past, so it's kind of a vicious... cycle thing.

As for the ban itself, 30 days is a bit long for a first offense, a week or two should be enough, I believe.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 27, 2010, 06:21:03 am
As you wish. But Keep in mind that at this point the people it's more about her throwing nasty jabs at people rather than fighting, since darkgirl has tried to take the higher road (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=119665.0) and not preserving this silly grudge. Pretty much everyone else has ignored her.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on August 27, 2010, 03:52:39 pm
and regarding this one, walt didn't say anything about her at all after i told everyone to stop fighting in the spanish thread. she was starting shit for no reason other than to start shit
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on August 28, 2010, 06:42:14 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61257 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61257) bot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 30, 2010, 04:03:42 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61338

Bot

You're slackin', Iced!

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on August 30, 2010, 10:26:37 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61343
Bot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 30, 2010, 10:30:01 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61126

If this isn't a bot, then what is it?



http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61146

bot
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 30, 2010, 11:12:38 pm
 :twisted:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on August 31, 2010, 12:33:30 am
shouldn't we have another thread for these bot reports
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 31, 2010, 12:47:11 am
Maybe in feedback, Replicant detection thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 31, 2010, 07:48:42 am
Methinks me should have a thread in the feedback area.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on August 31, 2010, 06:33:44 pm
there it is
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 03, 2010, 09:18:51 am
Hello. Can you remove both of my topics and me as a user, please. I do not know how to do it.

It's unlikely you will have your account removed simply because you asked. You would need to contact and Administrator for that purpose, though.

As for your topic being deleted. If that is what you want, I don't see why not since it's a load of shit anyway.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 03, 2010, 09:59:48 am
Checking his data it seems he has posted a thread that used edited sprites that he wasnt aware the original creator wouldnt want him to use, and wants to reffrain from creating from it, could someone explain to him the rules and that he should only try again and not be discouraged by hitting that first wall?

Editing someone else work and getting that person mad at you is a error that many newbies do , then they feel guilty about it and feel discouraged from working again on what they like, so, give him a bit of encouragement, please.

Also, explaining to him how he should mention his sources when editing stuff so people dont think he made it all from scratch. Thanks.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 03, 2010, 10:14:40 am
I think he wants to quit because everyone told him how unfair his character was, and he tried to make it fairer and fairer with patches but people still kept telling how his character still had flaws. I think he's giving up because he can't take people's opinions about the character and he just got frustrated. Is there anything that can be said to such a person? Someone who can't genuinely accept their own flaws?

The author of the sprites actually just asked for credit, but he did it in a rude manner. "You have goT to be fucking kidding." http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=119843.msg1185399#msg1185399

So that may have scared him off, too. That along with everyone just jumping on the bandwagon and one user flaming just to flame. It was explained that he can use other people's sprites and stuff as long as he's respectful about it. I guess he just can't take his first start in the community as a sprite editor of "original sprites" and a person who is unable to accept opinions and flaws in their own works.

I'll try to encourage him to change his attitude, but I feel he is confused when I type to him since English isn't his best language. He sent me a personal message after the last one asking me what I said about deleting his topic. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 03, 2010, 10:28:56 am
Quote
As for your topic being deleted. If that is what you want, I don't see why not since it's a load of shit anyway.
Isn't really encouraging. That reads to me "your topic is shit" not "your topic is full of people posting shit"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 03, 2010, 10:32:31 am
I meant the latter.  :P

I'll explain it to him, hopefully he understands.

Spoiler: Personal Message (click to see content)

I also emailed it to him, in case he decided to never log onto a Mugen forum again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on September 04, 2010, 06:52:07 pm
can we ban home32 again
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 04, 2010, 09:25:28 pm
That wouldn't be fair

Unless we also ban Stormex
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 05, 2010, 12:40:08 am
Yeah, lets do that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 05, 2010, 03:25:23 am
Or... we could train them. Make them better.
We have the money, we have the technology.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 05, 2010, 04:00:46 am
We don't have the patience though.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 07, 2010, 03:25:39 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61592

this person is not that interesting, was his original account "william" if im not mistaken, permabanned or temporarily banned?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 10, 2010, 10:42:48 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=120349.0

What is this bullshit?
Anyone contacted him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 10, 2010, 10:47:50 am
His post history is foul as well.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on September 10, 2010, 11:07:17 am
lol was he banned between years
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 10, 2010, 11:34:35 am
apparently he went retarded after 2008, one second normal speech pattern the next minute he is talking bout them nigras and the shooting the hoops.

He was never banned Yet
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 10, 2010, 12:27:32 pm
Well, he's about to be banned now:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=120283.msg1190328#msg1190328



Spoiler: =/ (click to see content)

Apparently, he was drunk since 2007.

Spoiler: Somehow, Orochi Gill is sure that he is drunk. I don't even know (click to see content)

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 11, 2010, 01:36:31 am
I think when people say "they don't care" about what we tell them we should just ban anyway.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 11, 2010, 02:29:48 am
When they act as if they are too cool for school I just deface their profile. Make it a little flower or a baby.

Suddenly they care a lot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 15, 2010, 02:39:53 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=52214
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 15, 2010, 02:41:16 am
what was he banned for?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 15, 2010, 02:42:51 am
MKvsSFstuff nickname+ Brazilian IP. Sounds familiar?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 15, 2010, 03:37:01 am
I dunno, all of his posts were in spanish and his ip didnt match.
While its probable it was the same, who it was however, was a guy that had pmed a bunch of people ages ago asking them in spanish to help him out, vans talked to him back then and he stopped.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 15, 2010, 04:59:59 pm
:omg:

I didn't check his registration date (Because it was like his first post). He registered here before the first MKvsSFFullgame account. Lifting ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 17, 2010, 11:42:06 am
Anyone else sick of Volzilla's sick obsession with trying to bring Gill down? Asking a staff member for his ip address to ban him from a forum he doesn't visits was already crazed enough. Claiming us to be biased because we don't ban Gill over unnecessary stuff is pretty shallow too.

Why doesn't he just use the ignore feature? There is no reason he needs to see Gill's posts if he doesn't want to.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on October 05, 2010, 06:26:51 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=121159.0;topicseen

for christ sake
it's not against the rules to not finish a project and start up another one (heaven knows how many projects i haven't finished)

but this guy has made like 18 'projects' in the past week
can we put an arcoolguy restriction on him or something?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 05, 2010, 09:40:45 pm
Perhaps we need to reapply the rules to the wip section in that you need to have some progress before announcing something. In terms of a full game the progress could be way stricter than the progress for a standard character.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 05, 2010, 09:54:49 pm
if its just a idea, it gets moved to the idea engineering, if he starts spamming merge them all together, then it will look as if he is rabid and keeps posting every tlittle thing that he imagines.
Ive merged several of his wips to his first one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on October 05, 2010, 09:58:22 pm
he's got like 5 threads in idea engineering and it's gettin old
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 05, 2010, 10:00:12 pm
merge that stuff, if he doesnt get a clue from that nothing will.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 10, 2010, 07:48:00 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=62632

Banned this. I am unsure why someone would copy paste a previous post in 3 seperate threads. It is possibly one of those nigerians posting for a bit to gauge interest, then letting the bot loose.

If anyone thinks that's a person or if it complains we can unban it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 10, 2010, 08:12:42 am
It's a bot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 16, 2010, 08:07:33 am
I banned Strucker for 2 weeks, because upon my ban, I realized that he was banned before for the same attitude before. TMaking post and saying "next" as if his only intent was to own someone. Telling people they have no lives over something that doesn't even provoke it. He's a very bad poster with only malicious intent. I think it should be more ban time, but I don't want to feel like I'm going overboard. He keeps sending me flamebaiting personal messages, and disregarding warnings. Please tell me I am being too soft. See ban log and post history.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=43618

Spoiler: Personal Messages (click to see content)



Also, this guy:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=62839

He is only here to spam youtube links and make sarcastically insulting posts. Cyanide hasn't banned him yet.





Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 16, 2010, 09:00:06 am
Sorry didn't realise he hadn't stopped. He's got a minor ban for the moment. It's only 3 days but i bet monies he'll re-register to moan/pretend to be someone else. At that point we can make it permanent for evasion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 16, 2010, 02:55:47 pm
He re-registered and pretended to be someone else. So, he's permanently banned now since he's really only going to be spamming and insulting.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=62853

Check the email address.

Why does it seem like those who are going to be stupid, pick the same exact moment to be stupid?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 23, 2010, 04:49:01 am
Why is Home32 still posting?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on October 23, 2010, 05:10:40 am
that's a good question
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 23, 2010, 05:26:01 am
Whatever. He's gone now. 

If someone for any reason thinks is right togive him the right of browsing the forum and sending pm change the ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 23, 2010, 05:55:40 am
~Wow~ at his post history. You should have went for the more stylish 365 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 23, 2010, 03:23:00 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=40604

Click that profile's website.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=63092

Look at that profile's email address.

I thought he was gonna go chase some pussy.  :-\


Why did I investigate? Why did I suspect that? Because I had a hunch.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 24, 2010, 12:02:43 am
That tinge of paranoia, thats the true power of modship.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on October 27, 2010, 03:11:13 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=121935.msg1218362#msg1218362

i've received several complaints from this user because he claims that there are differences between his 1.0 and winmugen versions of the character. are we going to delete one thread or are we going to keep both in situations like these?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 27, 2010, 03:26:33 pm
I think he can keep both if he wants to. They are two different chars after all, if he decides to make just one thread where he announces all the releases he is welcome to, as well.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on October 28, 2010, 04:20:56 pm
okay can you revert it cyan paul so daimonwhatever stops messaging me about it thanks
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 28, 2010, 04:27:33 pm
I think he can keep both if he wants to. They are two different chars after all, if he decides to make just one thread where he announces all the releases he is welcome to, as well.
There were are 2 threads for 4 characters, 2 in each one. Each thread has the same 2 characters than the other one and they are the same characters gameplay-wise, the differences are merely graphical (as listed on his post in the recycle bin). As such, I don't think he really needs a thread for each ste of releases.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on October 28, 2010, 04:54:08 pm
they're differences regardless and there's not a lot of damage done in keeping both threads up. they're different forums for different versions of mugen. please revert it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on October 28, 2010, 05:38:31 pm
ive received a message from him saying that he now wants the 2 threads to be merged :???: i replied that it would be too confusing
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 28, 2010, 06:24:24 pm
Like this?
Quote
Magnet, I am tired of this. It will be only one topic then, but i want the one on the old releases section.
So, please, ressurect the topic, merge the coments and erase the one on the mugen1.0 section.
And since I am going to sleep right now (it's bed time here on brazil), do me one quick favor please: after the merge, add the 2 links of the mugen1.0 versions on the end of the inicial post of the recovered topic.

Thanks in advance and that's it.
(pretty much what I did since the first moment...except I didn't copy the links and ditched the old mugen release thread instead of the 1.0)

@ Titiln: You still want me to separete the threads?

BTW I just banned a new William account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 28, 2010, 11:32:58 pm
go for it with those.
I just banned magggas trying to start shit on a thread. four days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on November 05, 2010, 09:46:41 pm
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9013/screwyoucapcom.gif)
maybe this is why, not exactly SFW.
while i'm at it do we consider that avatar sfw
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on November 05, 2010, 09:54:23 pm
If we banned that we'd have to lock off a few sigs and avatars in addition to it. The rules have generally been "no nipples" and you'd get a certain amount of bikini even in regular surfing.

I don't see that as an issue.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 05, 2010, 10:29:07 pm
I dont care for the bikini thing, but the spastic changes ( like when rikard had a avatar that changed colour at every frame) are just there to hurt people's eyes, perhaps we should add a note on those.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on November 05, 2010, 10:34:39 pm
No electric soldier porygon?  :'(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on November 15, 2010, 03:29:13 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=58809
this poster is really bad and doesn't seem to listen to anything, ban?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on November 15, 2010, 06:10:55 pm
I laughed when Drewski was drawn in by his posts.
Quote
"True love is your soul's recognition of its counterpoint in another."
-Owen Wilson (Wedding Crashers)

Have you given him a stern warning?
The user can't (I pray) be older than 11.
Maybe you can scare him into more thoughtful posting or inactivity.

If you've warned him before as it sounds like you have, then yes, ban him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 15, 2010, 06:15:04 pm
FBIced conducted some research on her mail.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 16, 2010, 05:31:25 am
Re: kiss my ass
get a life dude
ummm
you are a pain in the ass

10 days screw that let's make it 15.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on November 16, 2010, 10:20:27 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=58809
this poster is really bad and doesn't seem to listen to anything, ban?
I just deleted some topics and posts by that user, the topics and posts were all after the above quoted post. So if you warned him before you posted that, then he just disregarded your warnings.

Prior to reading this thread, I sent a personal message telling him he'll be banned if he doesn't read and follow the forum rules and moderators' instructions. I don't know if that was redundant or not.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 03, 2010, 10:10:03 am
Banned Maybrow (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=64363) because he is disrespectful; he didn't listen to a warning; and he has a really bad attitude (pretty much an unfunny jerk). 7 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 03, 2010, 11:13:57 am
It was mostly a troll account really. He made one topic, was an ass all through it, didn't really do anything afterwards. I do not think the ban is going to bother him in other words. I'd just outright make it permanent tbh, the partial ban may introduce a relapse along the lines of "you banned me now suffer" type BS.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 03, 2010, 12:20:35 pm
You're right. Changed to a permanent banishment.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 09, 2010, 02:33:58 pm
I have found 4 reatarded characters start complaing and make bash videos if you can there all spriteswaps's of shazzo's bowser which is a spriteswap of cvs axel here are the links there worse than webknizspongebob's characters.

Conker: http://www.4shared.com/file/bTT4XAMM/Conker.html

Ty: http://www.4shared.com/file/JH5fLsOJ/Ty_online.html

Hamtaro: http://www.4shared.com/file/HiL3k008/Hamtaro.html

Altair: http://www.4shared.com/file/XCpEwe-_/Altair.html

Here is this guy channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/roaringfiregaming

I have deleted this release thread, after checking his posts, user seems unusually fond of the whole "these are retarded" thing, if he keeps trashing releases he is posting, delete them he just wants to obviously setup drama.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 10, 2010, 10:53:12 am
Banned running wilde for spamming his fetish pictures.duration? this was not the first time he tried to spam his fetish, was it?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 10, 2010, 11:03:45 am
Sorry, missed a few posts. He was basically trolling for a ban. The plan was just delete anything he posted until he realised it wasn't going to work.

Not that the ban wasn't really deserved but i didn't want to give him what he wanted.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 10, 2010, 11:07:50 am
Ive told him to go do some running laps, it might help with all the fat.

If you have the time to clean up after him feel free to unban him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 11, 2010, 10:42:04 pm
Banned the StormEX clan.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 12, 2010, 09:35:43 am
Wow, seriously.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 12, 2010, 05:11:18 pm
Well, Sormex got another IP. Damm.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on December 13, 2010, 01:34:45 pm
all in favor of permabanning stormex right this instant say i
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on December 13, 2010, 02:19:21 pm
i
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 13, 2010, 08:39:56 pm
Aye

Ban evasion is not allowed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 13, 2010, 08:40:29 pm
i
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on December 13, 2010, 08:41:53 pm
Aye

Ban evasion is not allowed.
his brother is the one that is permabanned. he's not really evading he's just bad.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 13, 2010, 08:50:02 pm
Actually Titiln, I think he was the one using that girly account. He logged off ten minutes before her first post and logged in again not long after she was banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 13, 2010, 08:59:36 pm
I specially liked that he used the same strategy as Vyx. "That person must be really bad for you to want to ban me for thinking im him! is he a devil? are you afraid of him?He must be the satan.( We are understood i steal mugen now and sue elecbyte.)"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 14, 2010, 08:01:26 am
Ban him for multiple accounts and ban evasion, not for making posts that have bad grammar; not for making posts that are nonsensical; not because he isn't liked by some users.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 14, 2010, 01:02:33 pm
Ban him for multiple accounts and ban evasion, not for making posts that have bad grammar; not for making posts that are nonsensical; not because he isn't liked by some users.

yeah, rajaa is right about this, this is not a popularity contest, dont ban people just because they are unlikeable or people dislike them, only if they are effectively disturbing others.


I need people to start paying more attention to the report area, ive been dealing with the bots but there are a lot of reports piling up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 15, 2010, 05:11:19 am
It's mostly people not hitting solve when they solve something. They aren't piling up that badly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 17, 2010, 10:55:03 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=21810

Yeah, okay. Banned.

Now, should we delete all of the reports because people thought it was a good idea to massively report the moron's posts and duplicate their content?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 17, 2010, 11:32:06 pm
Yeah...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 17, 2010, 11:32:41 pm
Q: Why does he have a post count (3 posts) if all his post are in the recycle bin?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 18, 2010, 12:03:16 am
I believe a couple contain no porn at all so they've been left up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 29, 2010, 01:44:56 pm
I banned Zelgoto (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=47682) for 5 days because he rudely told someone to not work on a project which they were actually trying on and then told a moderator to kiss his ass when said moderator told him to shut up and stop. Zenotron could be next.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on December 29, 2010, 02:51:04 pm
i fully support this
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 02, 2011, 09:37:29 am
I'm curious, what happens to people who repeatedly completely disregard orders to not double post? Banning is too harsh, it seems to me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on January 02, 2011, 09:40:20 am
Wasn't there an option to restrict posts? That would probably get the point across
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on January 02, 2011, 10:01:11 am
IIRC that was a val only setting.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 02, 2011, 11:15:47 am
Yup, there's only a way for us to limit modifications to posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on January 03, 2011, 06:42:13 pm
hello friends!!! do you think jesuszilla's posts lately are acceptable or do you think he's getting away with shit?? thx
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on January 03, 2011, 10:44:51 pm
No not really. The only places they've been bad in the last 8 pages of his post history are in the "your admin titiln is a punk ass bitch" and the random topic, and i'm not going to blame anyone for things posted in there unless they're porn or ridiculous flaming, and he's just shitposted really. The rest are totally normal in the context of this forum and if you were to take action for those you'd have to do something about 40 other people as well.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 03, 2011, 11:06:21 pm
to give context, there were complaints that the mods are sucking him off and being lenient to his "trolling".
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on January 04, 2011, 01:18:56 am
Still nothing wrong with the last 6 pages of his post history. And if we were "sucking him off" we're doing the same for a number of other people who are actually behaving worse than him right now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 04, 2011, 03:18:22 am
We're lenient with everyone (except obvious troublemakers), people just only notice when we hit the ban triggers for some reason.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 05, 2011, 11:13:33 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=123944.0v

Whoever solved this, there is some cleanup on aisle five to tend to.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 10, 2011, 11:30:53 pm
Banned Nestor (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=53187) for the last post in his post history. I am sure he was warned for the same thing some time ago. Five days might be too little.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 15, 2011, 04:19:41 pm
I remember we banning some guy whose background check showed him as a forty year old woman, does anyone else remembers this?
Cuz he is either back with an alt account or it was a temporary ban and I want to be sure which one was it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 16, 2011, 01:06:27 am
long story short, all background checks for ghousi show a 43 year old woman .
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 16, 2011, 01:25:28 am
Ghousi isn't worth a fraction of the trouble (s)he's giving. Just ban her and call it a day.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 16, 2011, 01:27:19 am
im trying to be "nice" , i think there is a chance there is something wrong with him in the head. He has one post to explain himself, if he posts anything else that is not an explanation that makes dealing with him seem worth it, then its goodbye time. Does that sound okay?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 16, 2011, 01:33:18 am
Well, go on Mr. Niced Guy. But...

Quote
i think there is a chance there is something wrong with him in the head

Have you forgotten what happened the last time you said that about an user?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 16, 2011, 01:54:15 am
No I dont, was with who? Luigi?
But you are right cyan and I apologize. I keep trying to make him fess up instead of just kicking his ass out.
Go ahead and get rid of him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 17, 2011, 03:23:35 am
Well, that didn't work out. Banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 17, 2011, 03:52:51 am
This (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=66932) is the new account of a guy called Yyouseff. That account was registered from the same IP during the same day that guy falied to log in. He probably forgot his password. Merge both accounts.

Another thing that would go unnoticed without Orochi Gill's 6th sense.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 17, 2011, 04:35:32 am
If you could get me a link to his yyouseff profile, i will do it first thing in the morning. Otherwise I will do it first thing I have time to search him up.

Also im curious , who was the person i tried to be nice before ghousi?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 17, 2011, 05:47:17 am
Banned William's alternate account.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=66834

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 17, 2011, 10:44:51 pm
Permanently banned Strucker.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=43618

are u here to moderate me?? fucking bitch. thats why nobody likes your fucking site. fucktard
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 21, 2011, 02:15:51 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=66826
banned this dude last night, for a month, thanks to whoever hit solve for me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on February 22, 2011, 09:12:09 pm
all against keeping bigsally and his linear gimmick in this forum say i

i
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 22, 2011, 09:13:08 pm
i
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 23, 2011, 12:19:54 am
I.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 23, 2011, 12:21:03 am
And my axe.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 23, 2011, 12:40:23 am
And my vuvuzela

Doesn't bother me one way or the other. I kinda like it when he does it to people who are really annoying.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on February 23, 2011, 04:03:37 pm
i
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 26, 2011, 08:27:53 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=30904

If you see any apparently out of character posts from this chap, please delete. I don't feel like babysitting the forum till he logs off.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 26, 2011, 08:55:11 pm
Good grief, that guy knows how to be melodramatic.

After actually reading mulambo's post history for the first time I noticed it is as bad as people claim and that we have, in fact been too lenient with him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 27, 2011, 01:53:50 am
I don't think he deserves to come back any time soon. I vote we extend his banning to 3 months.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 27, 2011, 01:57:31 am
Mulambo was banned for 14 days, report button spamming has moved it to a "cannot login" ban for 30 days. It could be longer though as he's obviously a cock who doesn't plan to change.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 27, 2011, 02:01:31 am
Yeah, I read the report incident as Mulambo's way of crying out, "I never want to come back."
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 27, 2011, 02:23:12 am
Don't know why people can't just leave... I mean, if i wanted to quit, i'd remove the favourite and just go. Other people want to make a retarded gesture.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 27, 2011, 03:34:46 am
It's because you're not an immature dick.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 16, 2011, 02:13:05 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=126840.msg1295928#msg1295928
what the heck is going on with this?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 16, 2011, 11:03:48 pm

You wouldn't happen to have the Show at townsville stage do you? And maybe fenix azul's Townsville? I can't find them anywhere...sorry to ask :(

This fella was pming people with requests, asked him not to do it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on March 16, 2011, 11:38:23 pm
got one as well. haha.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on March 20, 2011, 03:51:00 am
navana/foxy was complaining about this user's signature http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=56596
at first his signature was quoting foxy's signature. she complained about it to me and i told her to pm him about it. she did and he changed his signature to the pm foxy sent. then they apparently exchanged more messages and now it's a screencap of a pm

so is this considered trolling??? do we have a policy about signature trolling??? thx
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 20, 2011, 03:55:40 am
Do we even have a policy against trolling?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on March 20, 2011, 03:56:57 am
as a rule of thumb, people can do what they want provided noone complains about it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on March 20, 2011, 04:07:34 am
Do we even have a policy against trolling?
most of the time we only deal with trolling if it's completely uncalled for
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 20, 2011, 04:10:26 am
[size=5pt]I told her that gimmick would only grant her negative attention.[/size]

I don't really think is that bad honestly. Even though it's a passive agressive attack said things are tolerable on profile/signature as long as he dosen't drag the conflict to board. Or otherwise we'd have to delete Cybaster's signature and I really don't want to do that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on March 20, 2011, 04:14:18 am
yeah signatures like cybaster's and other signatures that make fun of users are why i posted about this instead of doing something. we've never really done anything about it and if i yelled at him to take it off that'd be kind of hypocritical compared to previous situations
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on March 20, 2011, 04:21:13 am
I dunno. There's a difference between what people post in public and what they write by pm..
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 20, 2011, 04:25:14 am
That's lack of courtsey, yes, but I still don't consider it worth of moderation action.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on March 20, 2011, 04:29:16 am
fair enough.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on March 20, 2011, 04:30:44 am
and is it okay if navana puts up a signature that happens to be a passive agressive to captain commando
i think YES
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 20, 2011, 04:38:14 am
I'd say yes, but if it somehow turns into a nasty "who can make the most offensive signature" game then we may have to step in.

Edit:Cpt. Commando removed it himself. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 20, 2011, 04:50:52 am
i think this all falls on the "dont be a dick" thing.

edit: Talking about the escalation.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on March 21, 2011, 08:02:10 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=6490

Is this person annoying anyone else or is it just me? It's like mini-mulambo right now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on March 21, 2011, 12:15:40 pm
yea his post history kinda sucks...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on March 21, 2011, 12:19:37 pm
im fine with him gone
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on March 21, 2011, 01:17:41 pm
Seems like he tries too hard to make witty and/or funny posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 21, 2011, 01:27:17 pm
I always assume its language barrier making his attempts at jokes feel awkward. Dont think bad jokes should be enough to make anyone gone, tho.

But... Dont think that was what cyanide was suggesting.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on March 21, 2011, 02:54:49 pm
I always assume its language barrier making his attempts at jokes feel awkward.

You assumed wrong.  :-X

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=126695.msg1298834#msg1298834

But yeah, I definitely get the feel from many of his posts that he's just posting to post or generate some sort of laughter; that many of his posts are meant to be taken seriously, but at the same time, aren't meant to be taken seriously. :S
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 21, 2011, 03:44:05 pm
Dunno, long as he isnt disruptive I dont mind people having weird senses of humour =|
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 22, 2011, 12:05:49 am
Even when he was indeed offensive, it goes with the same tone -or a less offensive- you used everytime you posted.
--------------------------------
I'll PM him in spanish.

Well, that clearly didn't work out (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=124035.40)

Not sure what to do with this guy, he's still new and not used to the forum but he's been acting like a complete ass. Banned for tree days.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on March 22, 2011, 01:50:08 am
In regards to Navets:
Still nowhere nearly as disruptive or empty as Mulambo.

Tends to keep his spam posts in all that's left.

I dunno.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on March 22, 2011, 03:42:54 pm
@Cyan, Yep, I've seen that, I think he deserves a permaban, let's see how he behaves when his ban expires.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 25, 2011, 12:56:52 am
hahaha yall r fucken jealous n shit that I got dibs on her first then u all tryna get on my dick n shit cause u jealous that i got some game n u dont.... plz, find pussy somewhere else or jackoff to your gay KOF Mature sprites that yall vouch about... lol lame ass 10 year old piece of pixelated shit

sorry... its just the truth.

ayyy gurl i know u want dis but this is not the right place to be for you and me
lemme get your number homegurl i show u whos really ballin

Banned for three days, it should be enough to stop getting that high.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 26, 2011, 03:26:32 am
Stop discussing pirating games doofus.

There not pirate games, you retard. I bet you don't even know about this game. So fuck off.

3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 30, 2011, 11:39:59 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=119998.new#new

Reminder to all mods, reminder to all mods.


You have your permits ready, and are now allowed and advised to delete bots from this list, just give each account a brief checkup before deleting and use your common sense.

If everyone kills at least two zombies a day, we should keep the infection from spreading.


During this transitional period, please do not interact with the Bots in any way. Any resemblance to previously active users is purely coincidental and any messaging to the contrary will be met with swift litigation. Above all, do not shake their hands, embrace them, and never, ever, initiate oral contact of any kind.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 31, 2011, 06:37:03 pm
Yeah, unless you've actually had the stones to ban me or mute me, I'll post what I want, where I want. Calling me out on an empty threat? Bullshit.


D:!!!!!!

Guys guys, i might not have the stones to ban or mute someone! Ohhhnooooo my bluff got called



are you joking me? you decide to threat me about you doing whatever you want after I just warned you?


I'm not intimidated. Again, you called me out on a clearly empty threat towards MC2 (It wasn't a threat, and he knows damn well of it). You question my sanity? I question your ability to admin while foolishly believing someone on a terrible April Fool's joke being done on the last day of March.


I warned you to stop sending him threat pms, i dont care how empty they are. I also warned you to stop posting there. I dont care nor am concerned on how good you think a joke is, you are not a joke cop, you werent elected by the republic of jokeston to rule over the jokes on the land, and you are making yourself look ridiculous by questioning the "stones" on an admin to mute or ban you, like it would take me more than a flip of a switch. I delete 20 bot accounts per day, and im suddenly gonna be scared of muting one person if they wont stop spamming? Are you insane?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on March 31, 2011, 07:47:55 pm
Have you seen what you have done?  >:(
People at jokeston will be pissed, they may declare war against us.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on March 31, 2011, 08:17:16 pm
i'm the only one that can determine jokes being good or not. it was not a good joke. discussion over
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on March 31, 2011, 08:19:29 pm
hahahahaha
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 31, 2011, 09:03:11 pm
You really think I'd be joking after you threatened to ban me for something stupid? You really can't tell me what to do for two reasons. 1) You're not my mother, and 2) It's useless to tell me not to do something when I clearly have the right to do so. For example, you can tell me not to say harmful things about people or projects, but I can still do it because I have freedom of speech. You can't shut me down.

Yes I can.
=D
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on March 31, 2011, 09:34:17 pm
FREEDOM OF SPEECH

AMERICA
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 31, 2011, 09:47:46 pm
OH NO I CANT SHUT HIM DOWN! Im trying with all my might! Lend me your powers!!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on March 31, 2011, 09:55:49 pm
You can't stop his freedom of speech, Iced. I won't allow it as a person of this staff. American soldiers fought hard against lobster backs for this right. How dare you intrude on his constitutionally guaranteed rights? No. Step down as admin and resign as a user of this forum.

I fight for America before I fight for MFG.

[/isheserious?]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on March 31, 2011, 09:57:07 pm
"I still can't beleive he could"  :_blank:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 31, 2011, 09:57:58 pm
You stole the country from the natives and now you want to steal the guild from the europeans, I always knew it would come to this since the first time I met your beady untrustworthy gaze.

If its war you want, war you will have. You all had way too much freedom so far, its time to take it all back.

The mugenguild declares war on the freedom of speech.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on March 31, 2011, 10:07:22 pm
When did we EVER have freedom of speech here?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 31, 2011, 10:09:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/j7ZPU.jpg)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 05, 2011, 02:30:39 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=69411

Unless any of you gentlemen has an objection, I'm banning for Navana for good for pretending to be someone else. Again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 05, 2011, 09:58:39 pm
After that big fiasco he pulled and what happened because of it, I'd say that's a pretty good deal.

Fool us once, shame on you; fool us twice, shame on us.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 05, 2011, 10:00:14 pm
congratz navana.


on that regard:
 :downsbravo:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 06, 2011, 02:15:00 pm
Personal message I got about Mulambo:

Anonymous said:
Someone please kill him, or atleast permaban him.

He's shitposting to the max yet again.

Can he has ban?



Modification:

Read his recent post history and banned him for 365 days.

Read the reports and saw that he posted a link to a disgusting "goatse" picture and banned him permanently.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=5853
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on April 07, 2011, 12:28:12 am
Well that answers that i suppose. I vaguely wondered if he'd come back normal. The fact that he wants to be banned, and was but not permanently then hung around until it expired to continue being a twat... There is something wrong with his head. Oh well, good riddance to bad rubbish.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 07, 2011, 12:30:09 am
He used to be a pretty good poster, so , yeah something wrong if he doesnt want to return but keeps doing it, probably something went wrong with his personal life, hope things look up for him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 07, 2011, 03:33:19 am
He was? I don't recall him  posting anything mildly sane ever. The only reason why we noticed recently that he's a bad poster is because he replaced ganja and drawing satan with YTpoop and macros.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 07, 2011, 11:42:12 am
Nah, that was when he started his spiral down, he was pretty decent before.
Then he started making a ton of mentions to being fooled into thinking he would find success and disappointment and generally acting emo

this one + keep it simple. I know what it means to begin with great ambition and ending with no contracts, no money, no nothing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 14, 2011, 04:22:58 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=53187
banned for ten days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 14, 2011, 09:05:07 pm
Context?

Edit: Found it. Real nice.

Of course he did it just because he saw the big kids doing it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 16, 2011, 03:58:00 am
Hey do you remember hurricane2s, the guy who called Iced a retard and claimed that pirate games do not exist?

Does anyone know how to convert this into WinMUGEN? I have winmugen, & I want this char really badly.

Too bad, you can't : D.

Yes you can you dumb bitch. Someone tell me or else.

I warned him for being a rude asshole. Ban him if he starts acting like this without reason again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 24, 2011, 03:05:49 am
Is it me or cvsnb-or-something guy (you know, that guy who makes cvs sprites and types like a poorly trained monkey) posts are pretty bad?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 24, 2011, 03:34:28 am
I was about to say, "It's just you, he just posts enthusiastically," but I'm not going to post that after reading his recent thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on April 24, 2011, 03:37:54 am
They've always been bad. He doesn't take the time to spell things correctly making them incomprehensible, then he flies off the handle.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 29, 2011, 02:27:20 am
Sent Margouki (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=47492) a pm asking them to change their sig. Just wanted to let yall know so we don't all hammer their inbox about it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on April 29, 2011, 02:38:40 am
I used to do that, it's annoying remembering to check that they did change it or if they have replied or not.

Now i spoiler them and leave a comment in their sig telling them to read the rules.

It's a bit against what we don't do in threads, but it's still there and they have to change it anyway, just cuts down on how much you have to do. And for that matter, means you don't need to remember to check they did so THEN remove it for them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 29, 2011, 02:40:31 am
Gotcha, that sounds good. Will do that from now on.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on May 01, 2011, 06:47:32 pm
lmao if you ever thought this worked (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=69990)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 01, 2011, 06:50:58 pm
Different IP, same nick. One step forward and two steps back.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 05, 2011, 04:09:16 am
Memo: Lord kain previous ban was over persecuting Mahboi and insulting him, ive deleted two posts of his attempting to mock mahboi again, keep an eye on it, if he keeps it up we are gonna need to have another conversation.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 05, 2011, 06:04:09 am
It's amazing how people wait long periods of time just to come back and do the same, stupid things.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 05, 2011, 10:36:55 am
Guys, pick up on bot deleting please.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 16, 2011, 05:03:55 pm
navana said he's sorry for all the mistakes he's made and wants another chance

i'm passing the message on and leaving it up to you guys
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on May 16, 2011, 05:11:11 pm
meh...
i don't really care
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 17, 2011, 12:12:27 am
don't care for that one either. He didn't go round insulting people, he was just a lying troll. I don't think we've permabanned anyone for lying yet.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 17, 2011, 03:20:50 am
I don't trust him. Not because he lied, because the whole girl fiasco didn't bother me that much, but because he made an alternate account just after that. What the hell does that tell you? That we shouldn't give him another chance because he's going to pull something like that again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 17, 2011, 05:19:13 am
He made an alternate account just to troll in a Character of the Month thread. He's probably already registered as another user, anyway, just wants to be able to be himself again. The irony.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on May 18, 2011, 01:32:04 pm
I feel burned personally because of how I helped him and stood up for him, he shoulda known better. He'll probably keep breaking rules, you just gotta consider whether the rules he's broke are worth a permanent ban or not. He's permanently banned right?

On a sad side note, the second Navana account he registered has an oversized sig. See for yourself:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=69990 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=69990)

RULES
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 19, 2011, 01:36:56 am
has anyone been keeping up with that mexico youth thread

i'm under the impression that lord kain is being a stupid shithead again
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on May 19, 2011, 01:41:27 am
he's not the only one

hopefully it's on it's way out
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on May 19, 2011, 03:22:41 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=49288 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=49288)

Check out this guys post history. Apparently he's deleting posts now to intentionally disrupt the flow of the topic, even though it's the Random Topic. :-X
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 20, 2011, 09:32:47 pm
navana said he's sorry for all the mistakes he's made and wants another chance

i'm passing the message on and leaving it up to you guys

He is posting reports.

Why is he posting reports.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 20, 2011, 09:33:41 pm
maybe he thinks the staff will appreciate it idk

it's not needed at all
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 20, 2011, 09:45:21 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=127509.msg1309068#msg1309068

He has been banned since april fourth.

April FOURTH. It hasnt been two months, it hardly was a month and a half.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 21, 2011, 07:00:03 pm
i've decided to give him another chance. considering the opinions of others he's back but he's on really thin ice
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on May 24, 2011, 01:33:01 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=129375.0
wow what happened there :pwn:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on June 03, 2011, 08:23:25 pm
keep an eye on sonicstar3000/boombomb because they're bad posters
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 03, 2011, 09:27:03 pm
They're brothers, maybe it runs in the family.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on June 03, 2011, 10:37:22 pm
they're also banned for a week
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 06, 2011, 12:00:14 pm
Check out this guys posting history:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=71930 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=71930)

Anyone wanna deal with this? I would but I just got done getting ready for bed. Goodnight all!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 06, 2011, 01:11:41 pm
Pmed
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 07, 2011, 02:49:35 am
Aye, aye.
This will be something simple, just for practice for bigger stuff to come.
And also because I feel that there's a lack of 2d one on one arena games.

Edit: Also, I hate that slutty girl there! Hate! Hate! HATE!  >:(

Just because you are not a girl? Well, haters are going to hate. Especially you, dude!

:-\

Ban him if he keeps acting like a douche.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 08, 2011, 10:47:03 am
Check out this guys posting history:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=71930 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=71930)

Anyone wanna deal with this? I would but I just got done getting ready for bed. Goodnight all!
After pming a couple of times, he keeps doing the same, banned for four days with a message telling him to stop spamming.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on June 08, 2011, 04:16:38 pm
Ha, he just reply one of my PMs apologizing for his behaviour... now I know why.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 08, 2011, 09:16:29 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=67320
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2011, 09:39:38 pm
For the gentleman that don't get it because Iced thinks we can read his mind when he posts links! >:(

Hong Meiling, are you trying to imitate Ghousi45? I mean, it seems you know the characters are terrible, yet you posted them here in order to criticize them. And we don't want releases to be posted here just for that reason.


Modification:
Banned him. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=130075.msg1356416#msg1356416)

Full ban because it's an alternate account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on June 09, 2011, 12:13:14 am
For the gentleman that don't get it because Iced thinks we can read his mind when he posts links! >:(

...you can't?
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 09, 2011, 12:57:03 am
Im expecting that the first thing you do when i provide a profile is press the "TRACK" button >:C
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 12, 2011, 03:11:30 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=72022 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=72022)

This is this guys 2nd oversized sig. I'm going to spoiler it and put a "please read the rules" message, just wanted it to be on record that he's done it twice.

Edit: Actually I went ahead and removed the image. It was loading even if it's spoilered. Here it is if you want to see what it was:

http://gif.artige.no/store/1095.gif (http://gif.artige.no/store/1095.gif)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on June 12, 2011, 03:22:59 am
he should be banned for joking about that song in this day and age
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 12, 2011, 08:54:45 am
He changed his sig to another oversized sig. It's the first one he used too. Third time, this guy does not want to have a normal sized sig. :-\

Don't know what to do.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 12, 2011, 08:56:48 am
I hope you tried actually telling him through a message or something. =p If so: Restrict Profile Edit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 12, 2011, 08:58:26 am
I edited his sig telling him that his signature was oversized and linked him to the rules. Both times I told him the max profile size.

Edit: I sent him a PM. If he puts it back, guess we'll have to put him on restricted.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 12, 2011, 09:11:42 am
Twice should have been enough.

For most people one is enough, if he's not doing it, edit now. And leave the link to the rules in his sig.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 12, 2011, 05:00:47 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=72445

Banned our bash fetish friend, again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 12, 2011, 08:39:02 pm
I edited his sig telling him that his signature was oversized and linked him to the rules. Both times I told him the max profile size.

Edit: I sent him a PM. If he puts it back, guess we'll have to put him on restricted.

Use the cursed status, put a bieber on his sig or a penguin, with a warning telling him to pm a mod to have it changed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 12, 2011, 08:54:42 pm
He changed it to a 600x200 image of a pie. So I guess it's good then.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 13, 2011, 10:57:25 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=43462

User Real Bastard, has been banned forever. He was sending homophobe messages to Bea, that consisted on pretty much of the word we are dumb fucks spamming this site for ten years repeated a bunch of times, with some other insults in the middle. For a 32 year old to behave like that is a sign of retardation .  Do not return.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 15, 2011, 10:24:28 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=72693 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=72693)

Should anything be done about this guy? It seems like he registered here only to make posts like this:

when i read every posts the only thing that i understand is that
GOH is a crying bitch and not a beautiful one

TRY SOME MAKEUP POOR BITCH, YOU LOOK FAT WITH YOUR FAKE BOOBS

and because i post on cvg i'm cvg ?
i'm not an admin there, i just go there because they do some cool characters that you don't have on the other sites

 i just spoke the truth
GOH is the best bitch ever, and if you side with him you are bitches too

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on June 15, 2011, 10:25:48 pm
The hell. That's pretty offensive.

I guess he's already under warning?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 16, 2011, 09:59:22 pm
Not sure. I know Iced replied to him but I don't know.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 16, 2011, 10:02:16 pm
I told him to stop it IN THREAD. that should be warning enough.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 17, 2011, 03:53:08 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=18485 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=18485)

I edited out a gif in Edtion sig. I could swear this is the second time I did it, so I'm just posting here to remind me that I did in case he just puts it back. :-X
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 21, 2011, 02:02:24 am
Hey, guys and guys.         
         
I am very stupid girl. Delete my stupidon account and this topic and I will never write you againg! Agoing and Againg LOL.         
         
I am gooofdooooooogla (http://goooooooodsoogla.com/) stupid GOOOOOOOGALALALALA OLOLOLOLO!         
         
He he.


the human bot controllers are getting frustated with us deleting their accounts.

They also have terrible english.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 25, 2011, 09:30:39 pm
Yes, let's report, in masses, a post that has images of a woman getting hammered. That makes a lot of sense.

NOT.

Use the report a bot thread and report the profile, otherwise you're just re-posting the links from the bots. When you re-post the links the fucking bots have succeeded because that's all they have to do.

OH MY FUCKING GOODNESS WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE. USE YOUR FUCKING BRAINS.



Maybe it'd be a good idea to empty the recycle bin.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 27, 2011, 10:18:54 am
ATTN PLEASE


Caddie computer had a swift death,so he wont be around for a bit
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 27, 2011, 05:43:17 pm
I'm on my moms computer, and this is the only time that I'm going to be on it and the only post I'm going to make with it.

Here's exactly what happened. Last night the power in my room surged, either caused by my power supply shorting or it's what caused my power supply to short. I noticed the smell of smoke and saw a glow coming from the back of my computer. I literally had to blow out a fire coming from my power supply. The power is dead, but the motherboard LOOKS fine and I don't know if it or any of my hard drives are damaged or not.

I'm going to try and get a replacement for it but I don't have any money so I don't know how long it's going to take. If the motherboard or the harddrives are fried then it's going to be a LONG long time. So goodbye til then.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 27, 2011, 09:26:19 pm
Aaaaand I'm back. I found a back up power supply in my closet. Hooked it up and everything appears to be good.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on June 27, 2011, 10:26:15 pm
Good to know, now I can tell you that I love your new sig and avatar.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 28, 2011, 03:22:11 am
Yeah. Cobra owns.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 28, 2011, 03:26:21 am
Good to know, now I can tell you that I love your new sig and avatar.

Yeah. Cobra owns.

Thank you. I agree, Cobra is awesome. ;D
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 03, 2011, 02:41:30 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=47773
isnt this stormex? Why is he registered with an alternate account with so many posts? Or am I confusing them because they are bleach fans?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 03, 2011, 03:28:00 pm
I haven't checked thoroughly yet, what makes you suspicious besides the Bleach fandom and similar attitudes?

A preliminary check shows that Storm registered 2 years before Ichiron, and that Ichiron has been inactive for 2 years.
They have different IPs, and posted only minutes apart, back and forth in this topic. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=101251.520)
If they're the same person, they put on one hell of a puppet show.

Now THESE two perhaps
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=47773
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=50559

Edit: Above statement is true
Wow that's awesome! (This is Ichiron47. My account is all fucked up cause I tried to change the e-mail address and I can't log in to it. So I'll be using this for now on.)

My verdict is that ichiron is not storm. He's dragonbayasheach guy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 03, 2011, 04:39:34 pm
i thought stormex was the one doing the ssj ichigo, hence my confusion.

"my account is all fucked up cause i tried to change teh email address"

his new email address was "suckdicks"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 03, 2011, 04:40:55 pm
don't judge
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 03, 2011, 05:10:09 pm
well he can suckdicks all he wants in his new fused account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 04, 2011, 07:54:23 am
Mahboy made a duplicate account: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=74311
and was attempting to talk to himself.

Banned the double.
Should any further action be taken?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 04, 2011, 09:17:38 am
Tell him that you know it was him (don't tell him how, since he wasn't smart enough to avoid it in the first place) and that he shouldn't do it again. If he does it again, then give his real account some time out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 05, 2011, 04:40:52 am
Quote
Should any further action be taken?

Yes. I don't think making a second account should go unpunished under any circumstance, it's like giving everyone a free pass to do whatever they want without consequences.

I say give him 3 days, one for each post.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 05, 2011, 04:48:49 am
I deleted all of Krunk's alt accounts(probably should have just left them banned now I think about it, dealing with bots every day has conditioned me, sorry :( ) and changed his ban restrictions to prevent registration.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 05, 2011, 04:51:27 am
Probably shouldn't have, we could have used that for future reference, but what's done is done.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 05, 2011, 05:00:45 am
Ya, my bad.  :( He made two alts, one with no posts because it can't be activated. To make up for it I merged all of the posts from the posting alt and his "Chuck Norris" posts into one topic to make it easy to keep track of.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=131341.0

It was a slip, I know better than to do that. Won't happen next time. :-X
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 05, 2011, 05:04:52 am
Do you know why?
There's not going to be a next time.


HEY TITILN COME SEE WHAT CADDIE DID
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 05, 2011, 05:10:35 am
Oh crap crap crap CRAP CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP  :'(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 05, 2011, 10:28:38 am
Not deleting users include alternate accounts!!! >:C
I only delete them when Im fusing them AFTER we have dealt with them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 06, 2011, 02:24:35 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=16959
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=49288
seem to be the same account, Pmed him asking what was up with that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 06, 2011, 09:02:39 pm
Definitely the same person. It looks like you handled it already, though. Right?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 06, 2011, 09:46:30 pm
havent had an answer yet. it seems to be one of those cases where they fuck up the mail and then instead of going to a admin they just make a new username.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 07, 2011, 04:56:51 pm
Fixed the two accounts thing.

Added some new triggers to the registration process , basic english questions, this will guarantee that we never have spanish or portuguese speaking forum members again, as they wont be able to answer them. We will also see a downfall of americans registering as they fight with spelling in order to surpass the questions.


The permissions for the request area were fucked up, people could delete any post made on their topic, including the local mods. Fixed that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 07, 2011, 11:07:16 pm
Are you referring to the country or the continent blah blah blah
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 08, 2011, 01:38:24 am
Both are bad.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 13, 2011, 03:38:11 pm
Is it me, or do Toshio and Werewood need to stop making a topic about everything that comes to their mind? I mean, I appreciate their desire to make topics and keep the forum active, that's good, but some topics serve no purpose. I mean, I go inside of some their topics and say to myself, "Why would anyone make this topic?"

It could just be my meanness, though.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 13, 2011, 03:43:13 pm
i agree but they dont mean any harm and being annoying isnt against the rules
they just want friends to talk to about Funny and Cool stuff in mugen  :'(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on July 13, 2011, 03:57:08 pm
I do find them annoying, but, on the other hand, I find myself posting in those sometimes.
It is an unharmful annoyance, to give it a name.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 13, 2011, 04:02:09 pm
Its normal forum noise, it will happen, it just has been happening a lot with those two users, and is stands out due to their (lower) control of the english language resulting in some awkward titles.

They mean no harm, and if you guys think they should think a bit more before posting , then talk to them through pm calmly, they will understand.

As I see it, they are trying to make friends and get attention, doing so by making random threads ( some not that good) with the first things that come to their minds.

The same way that Oxe, navana, riptide and a few others seem to use the shit thread as a live blog saying anything that comes to their head even when its meaningless. Now those I felt more than once like removing them. "Bluh bluh, today nothing good was posted for me to reply "SAD FACE" ."
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 13, 2011, 04:14:32 pm
I'm just going to go with: I'm a jerk and they aren't hurting anyone. I'll Just let them be, they're nice. Unless they start making threads everyone 5 minutes, which I doubt will happen.

I still owe Toshio some feedback she asked me for a couple days ago. :ninja:



Riptide, on the other hand. Riptide. Riptide.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 13, 2011, 06:53:45 pm
The fuck. You just mentioned me in the warning section. Is you ego really that easily bruised. You have no choose but to back down or ban me because if you keeping being narcissistic and argumentative I won't stop.
Personal message I got after concurring with Iced's post about Riptide.



I'm tired of seeing her going around taking shots at everyone as a whole. This forum is this, this forum is that. You're elitist, you're dick riding him, he's dick riding her. On my old forums this, on my old forums that.

It's insulting, disturbing and got to the point where she is making stuff up that isn't happening in threads that are totally unrelated:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=131686.msg1380602#msg1380602
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=131686.msg1380771#msg1380771

She's delusional.

I feel bad for messing up Exshadow's thread, feel free to split it at will.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 13, 2011, 11:12:06 pm
Some of Werewood's threads truly are terrible. Toshio's aren't that bad.

[...]navana, riptide and a few others[...]use the shit thread as a live blog[...]

I knew I couldn't be the only one thinking that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 13, 2011, 11:35:08 pm
Split the dick thread.

What an irrelevant explosion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 14, 2011, 01:37:35 pm
The fuck. You just mentioned me in the warning section. Is you ego really that easily bruised. You have no choose but to back down or ban me because if you keeping being narcissistic and argumentative I won't stop.
Personal message I got after concurring with Iced's post about Riptide.



I'm tired of seeing her going around taking shots at everyone as a whole. This forum is this, this forum is that. You're elitist, you're dick riding him, he's dick riding her. On my old forums this, on my old forums that.

It's insulting, disturbing and got to the point where she is making stuff up that isn't happening in threads that are totally unrelated:

i wonder if she he has some kind of social problems, keeps talking about his inteligence and being persecuted while being oblivious that most people arent around empty posting.
Have they never heard of msn? Heck there is the new fancy version for people that cant use internets, facebook.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 23, 2011, 02:03:55 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=74701

This is the doodle that Iced banned for a day yesterday for flooding requests.
Now he keeps making reports:
:flipout: MY BAN SHOULD BE OVER ICED SAYS SO

I would have unbanned him already, but those reports have my fingers otherwise occupied.
Is his ban over Iced?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 23, 2011, 02:11:11 am
it was a day long, it should unlock automatically, if you feel like unbanning do so, if he keeps flooding reports, add one more day.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 23, 2011, 04:49:21 pm

Banned WlanmaniaX (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=66781) for relocking his Elvis topic.
Set to three days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 23, 2011, 05:11:05 pm
Mr. Griiiinnnncchhh.

*Read in a long, melodious, drawn-out, deep voice*
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 23, 2011, 10:39:40 pm
How in hell can a SNES stage be Hi-res?

Its awkward.

Stop talking trash to me like that.
You making up a myth.  :(

From a stage release. I really wanna split the topic and remove that stuff, right now I'm just watching the thread. Why can't Hurricane be banned? WHY WHY WHY! This is a cruel, unfair world!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 23, 2011, 10:47:04 pm
Is the ban button broken for some reason?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 23, 2011, 11:21:37 pm
I'm just going by how much the mods WHINED and CRIED last time I banned him.

"Oh why did you ban that poor Hurricane! That was way too harsh! He should be allowed to continuously shit up the forum!"

Sigh...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 23, 2011, 11:23:26 pm
Do you need a hug? >:C
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 23, 2011, 11:24:53 pm
Do you need a punch and a dousing with cold water!? Why I oughta....
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 23, 2011, 11:26:04 pm
Get a thread going if you feel the need to go over it first. >:C
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 24, 2011, 12:10:12 am
Did we? I thought we just said you were too harsh for his first ban. You gave him 2 months or something for being a dick. I am not quoting facts here. If he needs banning again, do it. Just make sure the time is suitable for the offence.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 24, 2011, 05:42:41 am
I don't remember whining and crying either.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 24, 2011, 05:45:50 am
Oh I should explain, I was kidding and exaggerating. :P I thought I had replied to Cyanide saying that already but I forgot to. Whoopsie!

Edit: Oh and I gave him two months because he was doing something he JUST got off a ban for doing. Includes: asking for pirated games, insulting Iced when Iced was just trying to help him NOT get banned, and I think there were a couple of other reasons that slip my mind at the moment.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 24, 2011, 05:46:59 am
I don't think there's anything suitable for the offense of lacking common sense and/or social skills.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 24, 2011, 10:49:10 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=121897.60

Go over this, okay? Sean request seems fine for me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 25, 2011, 08:43:43 am
Yeah. Subforum his unreleased game within the forum he has already. As he's a mod of it, he can archive all the shades stuff off and repost for the new bits and bobs.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 27, 2011, 08:49:01 am
I ended up doing it on the root.


Also, I deleted wlmania new account, his old one was no longer banned anyway.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on July 30, 2011, 09:47:24 pm
can we just ban lasombra i'm sick of him derailing threads into stupid, stupid arguments. he's not making the forum experience enjoyable for anyone else
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 31, 2011, 05:21:49 pm
if he is derailing stuff then yeah, I need to hear from more people tho, I dont like to usually ban someone just for being annoying and not able to argue. I need to hear from all the other mods first.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 31, 2011, 06:54:05 pm
if he does it again hes out  :smash:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 31, 2011, 09:16:06 pm
If he learns how to stop flaunting his brain, then he'll be a better poster.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on July 31, 2011, 09:18:30 pm
these are all things he hasn't learned in years i don't expect him to suddenly do it now
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 31, 2011, 09:20:31 pm
I don't think his recent posts are ban worthy, but that may be in part because I skimmed a lot of the "I Can't Do It Myself, It's Too Hard" thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 31, 2011, 09:36:12 pm
I want to say I agree with banning him, but I know it's not the right thing to do. It would feel right, a lot of people would say it's right, but it wouldn't be right.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on July 31, 2011, 11:49:59 pm
I would say no, but I can see where you guys are coming from.

I really don't think his intentions are bad.
His argumentation can get unbearable at times, but when he's not in mobius strip discussion mode he seems to be generally well versed and a good guy.

His confrontations seem to have become more frequent in recent months and his strict (often judgmental) ideals are enough to inflame pretty much anyone; but I think if he can be told that he's been rubbing people the wrong way, and genuinely understand without getting defensive, he won't be a problem.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 01, 2011, 01:17:14 am
can we just ban lasombra i'm sick of him derailing threads into stupid, stupid arguments. he's not making the forum experience enjoyable for anyone else

I'll give you Lasombra if you give me Hurricane.

Edit: God dammit, Hurricane put his age in his profile. He's only 13. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 01, 2011, 06:12:50 am
Emotionally i agree completely with banning lasombra for being a pseudointellectual pain in the arse.

From a forum perspective and whether he's breaking rules and deserves a ban. No, he doesn't. Especially as all he's really doing is fucking off Rajaa. We don't have a "people are not allowed to be annoyed by you" At worst, he's trolling. The accepted method for trolling is ignore.

This is why i want the ninja mod. All posts by a user are invisible, except to that user.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on August 01, 2011, 07:27:01 am
ghousi alt account (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=74976)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 01, 2011, 07:34:34 am
I saw that people were saying that, is it because of the character or something? What proves that it's him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 01, 2011, 10:18:13 am
Ghousi is a user that keeps putting up horrible characters and demanding for people to bash them, sometimes he will use the word feedback but fall into his old shenanigans, just from the posts Im not sure if this is ghousi ( even if its the kind of character he posts). this does remind me of a guy that was posting claiming "this char needs feedback bad!!feed back my friend characters!", that I thought could have been ghousi.... C001357, was ghousi testing that character or was it in his youtube channel or maybe he tried to post the same character with similar text on mi or what? What makes you think it could be really ghousi?

btw, banned a couple more "nikkas" account, the guy that has a fetish for orochi gill and wants gill to have sex with him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on August 01, 2011, 11:53:20 am
its mostly based on his behavior and a few claims

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on August 01, 2011, 04:48:43 pm
About Lasombra, let's warn him, we know by now he won't change his mindset, but I think he can atleast swallow his words to maintain peace, if he can't understand that, i'd say we need to ban him, I haven't had and angurment with him... in like ever, but I can't stand, as many of you, reading everywhere topics turned into lasombra vs [insert current rival].

I'd feel bad banning him without telling him "don't do that again, we are about to ban you", even if he deserves it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on August 02, 2011, 03:59:32 am
I agree that a ban would be in order, but I also believe that he should receive one final warning beforehand.

He HAS been warned enough in the past as well, though.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 02, 2011, 04:36:05 am
PeterFoster makes some pretty bad posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 02, 2011, 03:05:40 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=106287.msg1395786#msg1395786

2 weeks.

Perhaps consider cleaning up the thread too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 02, 2011, 10:42:00 pm
lol. Dunno what was actually there. It's just a reasonable thread.

Are you making us search the recycle bin for the problem?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 02, 2011, 10:48:07 pm
my bad, here is the bit i separated


http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=132414.msg1393018;boardseen#new
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on August 06, 2011, 05:29:45 pm
considering banning gbk because of this http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=132532.msg1398883;topicseen#msg1398883 but haven't done it because i personally dislike him. thoughts?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on August 06, 2011, 05:49:49 pm
That post is uninformed as most of his posts, but this one disencourage someone to do something, wich is terrible.
Well, we knew we could expect something like that at any time from him, he is stupid 90% of the time, he crossed the line this time and I think a week or three days ban is needed, stupidity shouldn't give users free pass to post like that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 06, 2011, 07:02:32 pm
That's the second post in that thread that he has made like that, I don't know why he needed to post that again.

Post doesn't make any sense, anyway:

"[Don't post work if it's not finished.]"

By that logic, this forum would be completely dead, as would others. I don't think that post alone calls for a ban, though. I haven't really seen many of his posts anyway. I think just found out he existed a couple weeks or so ago.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on August 06, 2011, 07:14:49 pm
his other posts aren't harmful they're just stupid
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 07, 2011, 12:08:15 am
Wow that is actually pretty bad. Is he suggesting we close the whole projects section? :-\

I think the most important thing to do would be to let him know not to do it again, and then if you wanna give him a minor disciplinary action I think it would be justified.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 07, 2011, 07:33:49 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=29530 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=29530)

This sig is so unnecessarily big that I think it's on purpose. I'm posting this here as a way to remind myself to keep an eye on it and that I've already changed it once.

Edit: Well he edited it right back, still oversized. Guess he needs a profile lock? :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 07, 2011, 09:52:20 pm
warned him already?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 07, 2011, 10:07:35 pm
Yes, I did what I always do. I put the warning in his sig. He just deleted the warning, undid the spoiler, and put the sig back.

I gave him a cursed status so he can't edit his profile. I tried to ask Iced how to lock peoples profiles but he's not around apparently. If that's the wrong way to do it please feel free to fix it. :-\

Edit: He just messaged me apologizing for it so I'm taking the status off for now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 10, 2011, 10:43:54 am
I have no idea what the eff is going on here, but it was a huge derail in the screenshot thread so i separated it


http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=132651.0
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 10, 2011, 10:22:33 pm
Does this need to have any action done with it? They've gone to flat out throwing insults at each other. :-\

At least I know better than to just start modding shit like I did with Shamrock which I still regret, but it feels uncomfortable just watching people call eachother names and knowing that it's not going to stop. Everyone involved has had these feelings about eachother for a LONG ass time and it's only going to get worse.

Edit: WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED HERE TO START SO MUCH SHIT TODAY? The Zabel thread, the Death Cargo stuff...does this whole forum need a time out? >:(

Also included, the fighting in the Kof XII sprite thread. ARGHHHH
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on August 11, 2011, 01:07:04 am
does this whole forum need a time out? >:(

Probably.

More feedback after downloading reading.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 11, 2011, 01:17:50 am
Well, the whole Death Cargo stuff solved itself...I guess. Not much to do there unless walt and lolmechy want to go on. And QOTD is now a bunch of gay jokes so I'll suppose there's nothing to do there either.

brb reading the Zabel ballad thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 11, 2011, 01:18:31 am
Despite our "no lock" policy. Sometimes split and trash really is the best option.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on August 11, 2011, 01:28:16 am
Read the Zabel thread.
Shit's fucking stupid.


As with the other two, this one looks like it will die on it's own unless sky keeps skyin' or Riptide throws in another non-sequitar .
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 11, 2011, 11:23:15 am
Okay read it up. I cant figure out the zabel thread, I dont know why those people are arguing or jumping to insults like that.

death cargo thread was stupid as well, really hostile stuff, while I can agree with walt position there seems like they were at it for longer than we even knew and at that point they were all trying to just bash each other out, it even spilled into qotd.
I am not happy with all that hostility.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 11, 2011, 01:03:04 pm
In the Zabel thread, Sky79 thought it was a good idea to call Cybaster a bastard, so Cybaster acted like a bastard, and then everybody jumped Sky79, naturally. Then Riptide came in and made a non sequitur (courtesy of Oz). (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=132651.msg1401736#msg1401736) Sky defended her from me because I was explaining to her that she interpreted a post incorrectly. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=132651.msg1401744#msg1401744)

Appropriate reaction to the White Knighting. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=62298.msg1402241#msg1402241)


Now Sky79 and Riptide are friends, and he's sending her personal messages or something of the sort to warn her about posts on the forum. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=132651.msg1402250#msg1402250) I wouldn't be surprised if she started calling people haters after a few days.

Appropriate reaction to the above. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=132651.msg1402262#msg1402262)



Now they're both on about the politics of MFG and are planning our destruction:

I hate the politics here but need the help. Or do I really need the help...
MFG Politics at work as always.



It seems to me that the insults towards them are not unwarranted. If you go around calling people haters, ego maniacs, kids, elitists and continuously and consecutively insulting the forum as a whole: how it's mean and how everyone is stupid, then people are going to insult you; especially if you're doing the aforementioned in every thread you get the opportunity (They think every thread is an opportunity).

It's like their behavior is insulting in of itself. If you don't like the environment, you are not forced to be here, just leave. The problem is escalating and it's spreading to every user who is susceptible to the amazingly retarded "hater ideology." Something must be done about it. It's gone on for too long. I'm really tired of addressing the same exact issues that occur around the same exact members.

Lasombra Dragon has stopped,  I presume he realized he was going a bit overboard. Even if he's just taking a break, he realized he needed to slow it down a bit. I don't understand why people who act similar to him can't slow it down, we need other solutions for these other people.



As for the Walt argument: I can't be bothered. I quit after I started reading quotes that didn't have any sources. That argument tried to seep into the Zabel thread too. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=132651.msg1402052#msg1402052)



Too much arguing? No.

Same annoying arguments that need to stop now because they've actually split into smaller arguments? Yes.

If we deal with the sources of the arguments, then we can stop them. But we've tried everything from personal messages. Good cop-bad cop. Trying to argue intelligibly. Mentioning in this thread. Calling out on bullshit directly. Ignoring. Nothing has seemed to work. What else can be done? What else have we not tried?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 11, 2011, 02:28:27 pm
New drinking game, everytime riptide gets her facts wrong you drink a shot, everytime she implies she has experience in the internet you drink a shot, everytime she talks about evilness you drink a shot, everytime she says words that dont mean what she thinks they mean you drink the rest of the bottle and get a new one, we will call it alcohol poisoning.


Anyway, yeah, something needs to be done, Opinions?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 12, 2011, 12:22:21 am
Hope all the other users get the point that their comments are not worth a response and put them on ignore?

I mean, they're a pain in the ass. But if EVERYONE stopped responding to them, then they'd fade out of existence to some extent. Blanking online really does work. This is why v.y.x is gone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on August 12, 2011, 04:11:35 am
Oh my, can we ban riptide already? she is a problem everywhere she's in, and her "sky" topic is stupid and is not gonna end well.
She's a lost case, let's move on.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 12, 2011, 04:14:01 am
Trashed that. I see no point with the way people are acting now in having topics like that. They will either explode or be filled with spam (which is what happened here)

And yes, getting to the point where "step the fuck off" doesn't seem to mean much to her and it would be no great loss.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on August 12, 2011, 04:18:10 am
this. epic this. someone do it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 12, 2011, 09:14:18 am
That "Sky" topic is really... wrong. Why would anyone make that thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 12, 2011, 09:58:54 am
im gonna regret reading this aint I? Okay lets have a read.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 12, 2011, 10:05:09 am
I dont get how she dragged me into it, was it because I used her as an example of people with low internet exp?Also the thread is really weird but i see no reason to ban there at all, its just... not understandable, which is normal considering her low exp.

needs to kill more slimes.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 12, 2011, 10:24:47 am
It's been going on for long enough. She can either stop now, or be banned. Those are the choices.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 12, 2011, 10:33:54 am
Ok, agreed. if she continues to show autistic posts then go ahead.
I guess people were patient enough...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 12, 2011, 02:18:40 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=47125

ok who is this dude? Someone give me a lowdown.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on August 12, 2011, 05:09:38 pm
He is the one who released that poorly done KOF Diana and got pissed when people trashed his job.
It was an alexlexus-ish situation, from then he is still hurt and refer to the forum as a nasty place where evil beings inhabitate.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 12, 2011, 06:54:51 pm
Where evil beings inhabitate? What the fuck is wrong with all those kids, have they never used the internet?  Not everything is a bloody jrpg, and you are not the big hero against the goddamn evil corporations. FFsake.
Anything other than that? I was told he kept spamming pics of his waifu in MI.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 15, 2011, 11:49:44 pm
You bastard. LOLOLOL is not a proper reason to ban me. If your gonna ban someone, tell them why.

pm I got, its the guy that was spammingstuff and then posted a "lolololol" reply on a post claiming it was a necro for two years. Gonna reply back.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on August 15, 2011, 11:58:33 pm
Just send him LOLOLOL
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 16, 2011, 12:26:00 am
Why is he not banned again yet?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 16, 2011, 07:21:09 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=63642 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=63642)

I have a feeling I'm going to have a problem with this sig so I'm posting this here.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=75310 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=75310)

This one too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 25, 2011, 05:11:37 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=30904

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=130899.msg1410723#msg1410723

Mc2 was apparently ignoring his personal messages, so he decided to post in MC2's thread to start some nonsense that was caught early.

Brought up an incident with him sending threats through personal messages that I honestly had no idea about until he mentioned it. o_O

Banned for a week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 25, 2011, 08:38:24 pm
what did he post?
Ive just got a report from him with wild tengu sending him some odd messages.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 25, 2011, 08:47:03 pm
Wild Tengu is still around? I split the thread to the recycle bin:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=133162.msg1410995;boardseen#new
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 25, 2011, 09:49:13 pm
Don't know what's up with this account: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=62267
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on August 25, 2011, 09:57:48 pm
Is he trying so hard to be funny?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 25, 2011, 10:18:03 pm
I don't know, I guess he was trying to get banned. There are better ways to not come back to a forum. He didn't get the response he wanted from anybody.

His run wasn't short, it never even started.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 03, 2011, 01:06:50 am
Moved donutman to the cursed group since he's unable to use a signature of 200 pixels or less.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 04, 2011, 05:48:47 am
moderation logs show this guy banned
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=30904
who is he and why was he banned?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 04, 2011, 06:28:49 am
Napoleon Jonamite doing his bi annual PMS.

Wouldn't have banned him because it's doing what he asked for and fueling his stupid pay attention to me bollocks.

Read the thread in all that's left if you want to see why.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 04, 2011, 06:36:20 am
Bi annual? More like trimestral.

I banned him since he was laughably pathetic anymore, just annoying, and because he started to multi-post and went all "Hahaha rules my balls" and I didn't want it to escalate to the point he started to post gross shit to get banned or something like that .

Also Cyanide banned this mierdabazofia guy in the same thread since he was posting like ohsky and living up to his nickname.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on September 04, 2011, 09:02:43 am
If mierdobazofia is not Ohsky we're screwed, there are two of them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 04, 2011, 04:04:01 pm
If he was spamming crap like that, I understand, just please next time leave a warning on the staff thread so that if others drop by they know what happened and why.

Like Cyanide i dislike banning people demanding to be banned, its usually just an excuse to then come back not long after with a new nick and name. "I DONT CARE BUT HERE I AM AGAIN DUHHHR"

And looking at that thread, im so not reading that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 05, 2011, 12:03:06 am
I would have been happy to just spend time trashing any topic or post he made. Obviously, porn would have been bad and forced a ban, but i wouldn't have made it a very long ban basically ruining his ability to keep the attention on him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 12, 2011, 09:57:06 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=133805.new#new

If Napoleon's new apology thread manages to touch your heart feel free to un-ban him (his original account).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 12, 2011, 10:14:47 pm
The same "revelation" gimmick twice in a row? :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 12, 2011, 10:33:51 pm
Ban evasion is ban evasion. No.

If he's changed he can come back when it expires. This is me assuming it's not permanent, i didn't check.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 12, 2011, 11:45:03 pm
It is. Again, any of you can change it if/as you deem fit.

Which I do not, since it's pretty obvious that this asshole only wants attention. We played along, had 12 pages of fun, screw that. If we unban him he's eventually going to another of his stunts in matter of weeks/months. And, in the remote case he's THAT socially incompetent, why would we want him around?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 13, 2011, 09:15:00 pm
Banned Hell Toast forever (I don't think I've ever perma-banned anyone):

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=133834.msg1423014#msg1423014



If I wasn't sure if my decision was correct, then this cleared up any uncertainty:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=133847.msg1424662#msg1424662



Telling newcomers to format their computer for mugen problems; untactfully posting about bestiality; flaunting Nazism; being an overall negative influence that nothing good can come out of.

If anyone thinks this ban is too harsh (anyone besides Bob the trucker ;P), then feel free to call me out on my bullshit.

Cheers, Rajaa.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on September 13, 2011, 09:22:11 pm
Yo, Rajaa... I'm ok with that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 16, 2011, 04:44:29 pm
Bob the Trucker is stuck on the rez for 2 more days and there is NO place to steal borrow wireless, so you get by with it this time Rajaa.  However expect me to be back arguing next week! Well unless I'm in jail or something of course.

 ;P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 17, 2011, 06:51:57 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=74662

why do we have a user called "arrogant shit" that just keeps posting after orochi gill and/or talking about human race and parasites?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on September 17, 2011, 07:13:44 pm
That's the one who seems to be Ohsky.
He's here just to teach us how bad parasites we are, I don't see the point of having a user who is evidently here just to trash the whole board's users.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 17, 2011, 07:20:20 pm
remove him then, I dont need more of those gimmick accounts, they can go suck a dick in hell for all I care. Waaait.. wait... if all humans suck and he is not human, and only humans go to hell, he wont go to hell! sadface.jpg


edit: changed his profile a bit to be more positive, until more people chip in to see if we should remove him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on September 17, 2011, 07:56:06 pm
post history is 100% worthless noise and i dont expect any improvement whatsoever
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 17, 2011, 08:29:37 pm
^That.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=74662

why do we have a user called "arrogant shit"

 :???:

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 17, 2011, 08:39:26 pm
bazofias is a term usually used for someone arrogant in portuguese, i suppose its the same in spanish
http://www.wordreference.com/pten/baz%C3%B3fia
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 17, 2011, 08:46:37 pm
Didn't even know it was a word in Portuguese too. In Spanish it means trash or garbage.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 17, 2011, 10:58:11 pm
Oh he didn't change his tune on return then. I banned him in the NJ thread for what i saw as trolling. It wasn't massive, he hadn't been banned before and prior to that thread he was actually pretty normal. I thought there was a chance he'd come back normal. Guess not.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 18, 2011, 04:41:12 am
Has the user been "officially" warned and told to knock it off or he's gone? 

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 18, 2011, 04:10:48 pm
Perma-ban him. It's generally accepted that that user is Ohsky. If it's not Ohsky, then it's his twin brother and he should still be perma-banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 18, 2011, 07:25:52 pm
Has the user been "officially" warned and told to knock it off or he's gone? 

:bow:

Im supposing that cyanide warned him when he banned him the first time, and he is repeating the same behaviour after returning. It shouldnt come to his surprise that going on and on about orochi gill and parasites of humanity is not really well wished here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 19, 2011, 12:25:41 am
If 10 users have told him to sod off, as well as Rajaa (who did tell him to stay away) i'm not going to mess round warning someone. He knows exactly what he's doing and has had most of the people in the thread tell him to shut up and go away. I will happily ban someone in that sort of situation.

Users know when something is wrong just as much as we do. Their warnings are just as valid as ours in some situations. We make the ultimate decision.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 19, 2011, 12:38:18 am
All of the above is know as "common sense"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 19, 2011, 11:32:52 am
Common sense? Or Lord of the Flies depending on how unpopular someone is who may NOT be breaking any rules.   If 10 users and Rajaa discover they can get anyone banned just by being vocal about it, thats not always a good thing either. (I'm talking in general, not specific.)

:bow:



Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 19, 2011, 12:04:33 pm
That's not how we work and we've never worked like that for as long as I've been a staff member.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 19, 2011, 12:16:21 pm
I don't think you do, I was just giving my opinion on the reasoning in some of the posts above.    If I thought the person in question was/would be unfairly banned, you KNOW I'd be arguing. I like to see things done fairly and consistantly, but I don't always get what I'd like.

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 19, 2011, 01:35:50 pm
Quote
Hello there, you were banned once for just talking about parasites and orochi gill, have you registered only to be a nuisance like that? Because if you registered only to stalk orochi and talk about parasites of human race,I am pretty sure we dont really need you around. What will it be? Will you change that tone?

BTW you got your profile locked as a form of small punishment for that crap, its a sign to cut it out.
i sent him this message , if he keeps it up, we will see. I thought he would stop the moment the profile punishment was attached but he kept posting the exact same.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 19, 2011, 01:39:59 pm
He's either going to ignore you, tell you he is posting while drunk, or make a pseudo-philosophical excuse as to how you're using your power to suppress his freedom because you're a lamb like the rest of the world.

Place your bets.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 19, 2011, 01:46:25 pm
such a cute sponge.


Some people get to their teenage years and think they are unique because they can form thought, then they proceed to forget to use it for anything worth thinking.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 19, 2011, 08:29:23 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61043 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61043)

I don't even know what to say to this guy about his sig. Not just the height of it, but look what's in the spoiler. That's...not ok to have, is it?

Edit: Refering to the fact that the character appears to be underage and has his panties showing, not at the fact that it's a dude.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 19, 2011, 11:41:59 pm
MissBe: We make the ultimate decision. Being vocal about a user being a dick isn't enough to recieve a ban. We still use our discretion. I won't ban someone who has been goaded into blowing up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 20, 2011, 12:28:42 am
such a cute sponge.


Some people get to their teenage years and think they are unique because they can form thought, then they proceed to forget to use it for anything worth thinking.
Did he reply to the personal message? Because he found time to make more posts about lambs.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 20, 2011, 12:33:41 am
He sent nothing back to me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 20, 2011, 12:45:59 am
Then I guess I read your other post wrong, Cyanide.  I understood you to say you would happily ban someone if others in the thread told him to shut up and go away.

Caddie can you explain what you mean?  Arent all of those types of "art" supposed to appear underaged?  How do you tell the age anyway?  And since this one has a tail and ears, it's not supposed to be a person is it?

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 20, 2011, 01:21:28 am
*shurg* I just thought that you guys might not be into people having art of little boys in panties in their sigs. But apparently that's something yall are into so ok.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on September 20, 2011, 01:34:53 am
I don't see any problem with that especific image as long as it is changed to fit our signature's size rule.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 20, 2011, 01:36:20 am
Yep, i would. But it's still got the requirement of the user actually breaking rules or causing a problem. Just saying a warning from us isn't necessary if the userbase has it right already. People should know when they're crossing the line (and generally do)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on September 20, 2011, 01:48:55 am
Mierdobazofia is here just to cause trouble, he knows, users know, we know, in a case like that, a ban without the staff discussion is totally understandable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 20, 2011, 02:01:20 am
Was that image in a spoiler already?  Caddie, I never have seen the point of oversexualized cartoons (if it be the hint of something naughty like panties showing or those ridiculous HUGE bewbies), I feel that image is kind of tacky bordering on distasteful, but I'm old AND Amish.  And when you are talking about something like that (cartoon) where do you draw the line of whats acceptable and what isn't?  With the legal definition of CP in art according to the US law or something else?  Because if you start removing sigs you find personally offensive that dont really break any rules, thats just not right.

As far as banning the troublemaker, I did say I was speaking in general, not specific.

:bow:

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 20, 2011, 02:07:40 am
its a weird subject, because if it was a really manly guy dressed the same way caddie wouldnt have an issue with it.  However if he removes it we have to start going after the same kind of thing for girls, and thats a whole mess right there.

I still think the sig is weirdass and bad, but im anti weeaboo.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 20, 2011, 02:14:41 am
Quote
Common sense? Or Lord of the Flies depending on how unpopular someone is who may NOT be breaking any rules.   If 10 users and Rajaa discover they can get anyone banned just by being vocal about it, thats not always a good thing either. (I'm talking in general, not specific.)
Well yes, the mob mentality would in general. But we aren't talking about general, we're talking about a very specific case about an user that kept posting bullshit pseudo existentialist stuff and was told to fuck because he's objectively annoying. This isn't the same as banning someone solely on the grounds that 10 people dislike him, it's based on the fact that people in general found him obnoxious because his post are bad and undesirable on the board.

On the subject of the sig: If it bothers you just add a nsfw tag to the spoiler.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 20, 2011, 02:24:48 am
However if he removes it we have to start going after the same kind of thing for girls, and thats a whole mess right there.

If it was a little girl I would be saying the same thing. It's just creepy that it's a sexualized picture with a character that looks too young for that. Even if it's not TOO sexual, STILL. :-\

Btw I was joking around by saying "yall are into that", you know how I do. :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 20, 2011, 05:30:00 am
Yes Caddie, we know you were just trying to hide your own deviancy. Tryingto shift the focus as it were.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 20, 2011, 05:34:07 am
Hey, the ass I had in my sig was 18+. >:( And based on me in a roundabout way.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 22, 2011, 04:32:59 am
my pc is borked, so i dunno when i will have the cash for replacement parts,could be tomorrow or a week from now,im postin from the ps3.
till im back keep an eye on not.mahboi and ban him the second he starts wanking about bad crappy chars
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 22, 2011, 01:01:28 pm
What about Ohsky? He's still posting about lambs, but hasn't replied to your personal message.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 22, 2011, 03:22:29 pm
Sorry to hear about your PC Iced, hope you're back soon. :( I will also keep an eye out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 23, 2011, 06:10:37 am
Banned Mahboi.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=134204.msg1431292;topicseen#msg1431292
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=134206.msg1431289;topicseen#msg1431289
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 25, 2011, 01:11:12 am
Banned mierdabazofia again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 28, 2011, 07:36:19 pm
Werewood was continuously bumping all of his old release threads in a very spammy attention seeking way, so I banned him for 2 days for the following reasons:

1. To clean up his bumps.
2. To prevent him from continuing to bump.
3. Hopefully to cool his head down.
4. To decide if we should take further action based on his recent behavior.

Sound good?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 28, 2011, 07:36:31 pm
I was just getting ready to clean up the spam in releases by

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=5543

I see Rajaa was on top of it.  Did you ban the username?  I was going to to stop the flooding and got the alert that a ban on that username already existed.

:bow:

edit to add:   Ah ok, Caddie did.  So I'm not crazy. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 28, 2011, 07:38:08 pm
Yes, he's been banned several times already as I tried Werewood and Werewood 2 before settling on naming it "WerewoodCadBan". :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 28, 2011, 07:49:04 pm
I wasn't even considering banning him, but I was about to post here to ask everyone what we should do for him.

He's ridiculous. His mugen discussion topics are outright stupid. I thought my concern with him months ago was just me being mean, but now I see that it wasn't just me being mean because he really is a problem -- really has a problem. I thought the way he posted would fade to something more acceptable as the time went on, but it didn't.

He's not a newbie. He knows how things work. He just keeps using that "newbie" nonsense as an excuse to make stupid topics and posts.

He can't be talked to because he has both low self-esteem AND high self-esteem at the same time. He's completely unstable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 28, 2011, 07:56:40 pm
You know how I feel about banning.  Sometimes I guess it's needed on a temporary basis (to stop flooding, spamming, whatever).  But I dont think he's done anything bad enough to be banned forever.

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 28, 2011, 08:20:05 pm
Agreed, should his ban be longer than 2 days though?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 28, 2011, 08:29:14 pm
Missb, that depends on what he returns doing, his posting has been erratic, but to me that was never that big of an issue, as the only person "hurt" by the way he spoke, was himself. He denigrated his own work constantly. Today when someone pointed out bugs, he snapped about how if there is a better character of the same type, he would delete his own character. That shouldnt be necessary for anyone to ever do, or even think about doing. Dude needs to chill out, no one hates him, no one thinks he is dumb ( except some sad tossers that think everyone is dumb because they are always butthurt about some shit , and who gives a shit about those guys?)  and people were actually trying to help him here and there.. but he needs to shift that attitude, he cant react to this so seriously, claiming he will delete his stuff if dshiznet proves he can do better than him? holy shit?

All those "people should do this" and "people should do that" threads where he was ordering people how to react were odd as fuck too, i guess it was the warning sign for stuff like this, bumping all those thread and flooding because he is mad that he isnt considered that good?  Now, thats harming others, disrupting the forum, and being a douche.
The thing is, when he returns, does he returns being a douche, or not?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 28, 2011, 08:52:10 pm
Werewood evaded his ban by registering a new account. By Iced's advice, I deleted the new account and we're not going to increase his ban yet. Give him a chance to cool down.

(http://caddie.smeenet.org/werewood.gif)

So shall I change my mind set to this:

"if I don't bother to care about your MUGEN stuff, then I won't bother using the most harsh statements to try to stimulate your little universe."?

it is like,

"if you are not my son and if I don't love you, then I won't bother using the most harsh statements to try to stimulate your little universe."?

I should be very thankful to those who keep telling me to stop all MUGEN activties because they use some opposite ways to love me?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 28, 2011, 09:18:34 pm
no one thinks he is dumb ( except some sad tossers that think everyone is dumb because they are always butthurt about some shit , and who gives a shit about those guys?)

 >:(

Quite honestly, I don't think he's of average intelligence.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 28, 2011, 11:46:59 pm
He needs to stop trying to push his way to the top is all. Your work and attitude has always been the way things function. Trying to become "famous" through his methods has always worked in the opposite direction.

If he released his characters, bad or good, and responded correctly to comments made he'd be fine. It's the whole bipolar "i'm doing it first" "oh no it's terrible" thing that's not working out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 29, 2011, 07:39:16 pm
I cursed this guy,
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=134453.0
possible alt account, all the posts are on random topic or alike, the name is a dead give away, he had changed his sig and avatars to a bunch of dudes taking shits from the doodie website, below is an example of one of them:
you have been warned it is nsfw

http://www.doodie.com/images/stories/classic/shakeoutturd2.gif

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 30, 2011, 07:02:46 am
Greetings all. We have just had a user known as kyo clone 1 join us. For any of you who visit the elecbyte forum, he has thoroughly ruined general discussion. Spam, off topic generally being a trolling little asshole.

He is now here. Normally i would say that actions on another site have no place here, but as it's elecbyte i plan to take exception to that rule and will take great joy in banning him if i see any actions like the ones there. If he does anything bad, tell me, please. I WANT to ban him. I can't ban him there i will happily and with great joy ban him here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 30, 2011, 09:16:31 am
Ive read the way he posts, on normal occasions i would say that you shouldnt act on a whim, but im opening a huge exception and calling it an act of God.
as in, what in God's name made him even think about registering here.

You are free to do as you please, far as im concerned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 30, 2011, 04:26:08 pm
Looks like he was here since April.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 30, 2011, 10:23:11 pm
He was quiet then. And, knew where the ' key was, and slightly less of a pain. His actions at elecbyte though, not letting that fly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 02, 2011, 12:19:05 am
I cursed this guy,
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=134453.0
possible alt account, all the posts are on random topic or alike, the name is a dead give away, he had changed his sig and avatars to a bunch of dudes taking shits from the doodie website, below is an example of one of them:
you have been warned it is nsfw

http://www.doodie.com/images/stories/classic/shakeoutturd2.gif

His post history is TERRIBLE. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=75760) Seriously, he only has two pages of post history, look through them all. Find something, ANYTHING worthwhile.

Also, he released a character which is a "punching bag" of what appears to be a 5 year old boy that he knows. The biggest offense is that he used a stage I converted to promote the release. >:(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 02, 2011, 02:10:28 am
I warned him about his post history when i cursed him, he still seems to me that he might be a gimmick troll.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=62466.msg1437614#msg1437614

Duo ranger has quit the mugen guild, it should be a zero occurence, with nothing more coming out of it, but he was pretty angry, so, if something odd happens, this is why.

it seems to be mbhaven related again
bom ja sei que vo tomar ban mesmo mais foda-se

esse forum ta pior que Comunidade de WoW em termos de usuarios e ate mesmo a staff agindo que nem retardados e pagando 1 de fodao

da 1º vez que vim pra ca, era um forum legal blz, tony, ilu, pessoal bacana, sem trolls, mais quando alguns os imprestaveis começaram a entrar na staff desse forum como MBH, a merda ja tava feita

pelo menos o werewood fez bem em abandonar o mugen, acho que ele viz a furada que ta hje em dia fazer parte dessa comunidade ultimamente tom tanto newfag e troll que apareceu nesses tempos

bom pra vcs que ficam FODA-SE!


well I know I am going to take a ban anyway, but fuck it

this forum is worse than WoW community in terms of users and even the staff is acting like retards and thinking they are cool.

first time I come here, it was a cool forum, tony, ilu, cool guys, no trolls, but when some of the unworthy started entering the forum staff like MBH, the shit had already been done

at least werewood did well in abandoning mugen, I think that he saw the hole that it is nowadays to be part of this community lately with all the newfag and troll that is showing up.

well to those that stay, Fuck it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 02, 2011, 02:47:29 am
I find the dislike of MBH weird. She says she is a troll, rarely does she actually troll anyone, yet because she's made the point, people are... scared of being trolled?

Cy does not understand. Also, she confines herself to all that's left mostly. Basing your time in a mugen forum on the "not mugen" part of it is rather strange too.

If he wants to leave, his choice, we've never STOPPED anyone leaving. It's making people who are assholes leave that's the problem. Cos they like to come back, over and over, with new names and IP's.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on October 02, 2011, 06:36:00 am
Thats because I'm retired from active duty... mostly.  I do keep my skills finely honed of course, just not here.
 ;P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 02, 2011, 08:36:22 am
this forum is worse than WoW community in terms of users and even the staff is acting like retards and thinking they are cool.

Oh, the irony coming from "SUCK MAH HARD DICK WITH SALT!". And I really don't get what being "unworthy" of being on the staff means. There is some very strange perception about what it means to be a staff member on this site.

Eh don't worry MissB about the recent influx of people protesting you like that, you haven't done anything wrong.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 02, 2011, 04:27:05 pm
MBH, sworn enemy of the portuguese thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on October 02, 2011, 04:57:12 pm
Since none of them pay my bills or sleep with me (their loss, right?), I wont be losing too much sleep over all that.  Besides, having a "common enemy" can be a good thing.  ;)

  Also, switching the topic from the banning of kyo clone 1 isn't going to distract me from voicing a protest.  I don't agree with the way it was handled.  I understand the reasoning behind it, I just don't think it was the correct action.  I don't expect anything to change,  or have a long debate about it but I do want it on record (so to speak) that I don't agree.

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 02, 2011, 07:22:30 pm
imtor is sending pms to people insulting them, sent some to rajaa, sent some to xgargoyle ( that i know off)
im banning him temporarily, argue amidst yourselves how to best deal with it , duration etc, initial bid will be one week.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=54702
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 02, 2011, 07:47:57 pm
I kinda agree with what MissB said about Kyo Clone. I felt odd about it from the beginning but I, like I assume more people here, trust Cyanide's judgement. There had to have been a really good reason for it. It was really weird to read his posts at Elecbyte because of how he talks, he seemed to really look up to Cyanide, calling him his "dad" and other weird shit. EHHHHHHHH

Anyway, I don't think imtor is worth keeping around. He doesn't seem to be happy here. Maybe a few months ban and then if he wants to come back and try to behave let him. He's a contributor, right? Well maybe time will heal and we can move past what happened. Though I mean the post that started the mess made it seem like he didn't like Mugen much anymore anyway.

I'd like to also suggest sacking Suckmydunks. I can't tell if he's a gimmick or just a really terrible poster but all of his posts, like I said, are reaaaally bad. He keeps releasing joke characters and stages, he had those awful sigs/avatar with guys shitting and couldn't figure out why that would be a bad idea, he used the image of a young boy he knows for a Mugen release, he's posted a "shock video" in the Random Topic, along with a post that was just a bunch of spoilers stacked on eachother, all his posts in release topics are "nice char" or "nice stage"...bah.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 03, 2011, 12:20:35 am
Ooh, don't you give him any bloody sympathy. He knows exactly what he's doing. You read his topics from day one (i have) he can say learning disorder all he likes, he's ignored EVERYTHING people have told him on that forum. Every single thing. He hijacks every thread he visits, he goes off topic.

He doesn't "look up" to anyone he's just trying to get a rise from people. Elecbyte have returned after 10 years absence, now that they're not round the forum itself we have a little spammer (using a proxy apparently) making a huge mess and disregarding EVERYTHING said to him. People have been polite over there, people have been mean. Nothing gets through.

You realise now it's back up, despite my ban message being really really blunt, he posts saying he doesn't believe it? He thinks that he's perfectly fine. Load of rubbish. He's not going to listen to anything anyone says and on coming here was quite happy to continue in the same vein?

It was childish and immature and i'm quite willing to admit that. I was HOPING that it would get through to him in some way that what he's doing is not even slightly acceptable (those of us who have been developing for any length of time understand this) it hasn't. If you like, i'll remove the ban and give you the job of clearing up after him. I'll even apologise if you like, but i will not be party to anything he does after that. He'll be your responsibility.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 03, 2011, 12:33:03 am
Like I said, I trust your reasons for it. It was just the fact that he didn't do anything wrong on THIS forum, and the evidence about what he did on elecbyte's forum hasn't been specific, just a blanket statement of "he ruined the forum" without posting any examples or anything. JZ talked with me about this and made a good point. I've known you for a while and having you feel this way about something HAD to have taken a lot.

It's really hard to tell just by using the latest post function on his profile at Elecbyte, because it doesn't show what he's replying to or all the topics he's creating(which I saw for myself). He talks VERY strangely, often bringing up his dad, and he puts weird symbols in his posts, and he posts A LOT. But it's still hard to figure out what he did to ruin the forum without being shown it ourselves.

I think the ban should stay because I believe you had a reason for it, and you're doing it for the benefit of the forum. But that reason perhaps coulda been explained and presented better. Even so we all trust you on it. :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 03, 2011, 12:42:54 am
It's not his dad... He's making a stupid reference to whoever he thinks is his best friend at the time. Byakko in most cases. Was serio, and me for a little while.

You cannot make a topic without him coming in, the forum has been cleaned up, prior to it's downtime just after the whole gen discussion forum was threads by him -3 topics. Half of those were titled "Is it possible to..." and then often containing stuff that was nothing to do with mugen anyway. Or even the forum as a whole.

He responds to posts basically telling the person who made it that they're not qualified to answer him and should have 500 posts. He swings between saying he's a complete newbie and then telling people he knows the answer and is right despite being blatantly wrong.

There is no moderation there, that has meant MOST of us who visit the site tone down a bit and play nice. He doesn't, is annoying, fails to respond to anything and nobody there is or has been happy with how he's behaved. As i could take SOME action here, i did, sadly it hasn't had any real effect on him there. In fact, he's already posted a new "Is it possible to..." topic, despite the admin asking to keep things on topic.

Like i say, what i did was childish, but it's not nearly as bad as what he is doing to the forum of people i respect immensely and have given me a lot of pleasure in my life.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 03, 2011, 12:46:37 am
There we go, now that that's explained I think everyone is satisfied, right? :)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 03, 2011, 04:13:42 am
Maverik asked to close his fullboard section , he is done with the space and he plans to start off fresh in a thing of his own, he will post links for his place when he gets more details going.
So, I closed it, no one can post new posts there but they can consult his building process.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on October 03, 2011, 05:02:59 am
Caddie, I was satisfied before there was a valid reason.  I just don't agree with the process of banning someone based on actions on another forum.  I'm not jumping up and down and throwing a hissy fit or anything.

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 03, 2011, 05:16:08 am
Dammit woman, why won't you just let me speak for you even though it's completely misrepresenting your viewpoint? >:(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 03, 2011, 05:48:04 am
I normally don't subscribe to that view either. This particular person is a "special" case. As i say, I respect elecbyte a LOT, and having him there mangling everything rankled a lot. If i'm lucky, he'll shut up or back off, although it seems really doubtful.

We would have been banning him here very shortly anyway. Believe me he would not have lasted 24 hours before making a mess.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 07, 2011, 03:45:05 am
I've warned Gozar about his double posting and will just start deleting them if he keeps doing it. He even said he's been told 3 times but he's still doing it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on October 08, 2011, 04:13:31 am
HE IS A SELF PROCLAIMED AUTISTIC POST EXPLOSION

If he continues posting like this I'm going to have to stop him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 08, 2011, 05:48:20 am
So, are you enjoying your time with kyo clone 1? It's pretty obvious really. Slight change in subject matter, little change in stupidity.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 08, 2011, 06:42:12 am
He's Gozar isn't he? Btw I can't find Kyo Clone 1's profile, do you have a link to it?

Nevermind, found it through GOOGLE which apparently searches this forum better than the forum's search. >:(

Edit:

His post history is TERRIBLE. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=75760) Seriously, he only has two pages of post history, look through them all. Find something, ANYTHING worthwhile.

Since I posted that, he's made 3 posts. One saying "Whos the other char... He kinda looks more interesting than her.." in a found release topic. One saying "Sweet. DLing now." in a stage release topic. And one saying "Why release Such a horrible char right after he died? Steve job's Family would So be offended By this." in that awful Steve Jobs character topic. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 13, 2011, 01:14:09 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=42377

third time derailing projects and releases
first two times were in that hero thread, third time is the last post, banned him for 20 days.


Dont piss on my sacred grounds.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on October 13, 2011, 01:20:07 am
Well now he's probably going to find out where hero lives so he can campout in front of his house and insult him while he gets ready for work.

Great job Iced.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on October 13, 2011, 02:59:54 am
Just for the record, does anyone think Gozar can be saved?
Speak now or forever hold your peace.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 13, 2011, 05:12:36 am
I still think he's kyo clone, so nope.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 13, 2011, 06:38:58 am
I don't think Gozar is going to get better.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on October 13, 2011, 10:39:35 pm
He's evidently not gonna get any better (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=134981.0).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on October 13, 2011, 10:41:00 pm
how does a month sound
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on October 13, 2011, 10:46:36 pm
Great actually.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on October 14, 2011, 12:05:17 am
How about two years?

:gonk: check his sig
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 14, 2011, 09:19:08 pm
Do you gentlemen think that drewski can be saved?

(brief silence, then furious laughs can be heard in the room)

Well, then for how long do we ban him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 14, 2011, 09:31:12 pm
"raises hand amidst the laughter" hmmm... w-well... I think he is making an effort and isnt ill intented.

wait, is he still doing that pokemon rapist thing  I told him to stop?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on October 15, 2011, 09:02:41 pm
i don't think "not being ill intended" gives him carte blanche to post dumb shit in active threads
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 15, 2011, 09:04:39 pm
we didnt ban E when he was doing it, we talked to him. Has anyone attempted to talk to him except for me telling him to stop talking about pokemon rapists?


Yep, tried to talk to him, didnt gave a shit, banned him for three days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 16, 2011, 03:12:45 am
I tried to talk to him months ago and explained carefully how his posts were bad, why should he cut off the random pokemon nonsense (nothing new) and read the threads before posting dumb shit that made him look clueless. Well, that didn't work out back then and I'm pretty sure it won't do it now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on October 16, 2011, 07:31:34 pm
Ol' drew doesn't really seem to be the listening/comprehending type.
I've tried to talk to him multiple times, and his understanding of what should/shouldn't be posted seems fundamentally flawed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 18, 2011, 07:12:33 pm
Ugh! I'm not that irritating.
How can you be so sure?

I am going to be honest about your posts.
THEY ARE ANNOYING.

Shut up.

YOU!!!! STOP POSTING RIGHT NOW!!

YOU!!!! STOP POSTING RIGHT NOW!!!

Your questions are retarded. As usual.

Video man, take a break from the internet and stop posting, please.
Thank you.

Well, looks like I'm not the only one who thinks that he's incredibly annoying and disruptive.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on October 18, 2011, 07:23:27 pm
Yes, you are not the only one.
He sometimes post news without his stupid questions, but when I say sometimes I mean 1 every 200 annoying posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 18, 2011, 08:29:49 pm
I've never dealt with him myself. Some people just aren't made for the internet. =P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 23, 2011, 01:56:22 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=34355
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=76519
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 23, 2011, 06:33:33 pm
Both are definitely the same dude, wonder why he registered a new account. The old one wasn't banned. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 23, 2011, 10:09:29 pm
Yeah, I should've clarified that both are Wild Tengu's accounts and that someone should merge them. Or maybe not, he isn't harming anyone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on October 23, 2011, 11:42:09 pm
can we just ban sceptile
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 23, 2011, 11:47:49 pm
I would be fine with that, AND upping the registry age to 14.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 23, 2011, 11:51:08 pm
That's a waste of time people will lie.

I wish we had some sort of post limiter available. See some people aren't totally worth banning just for being annoying. But we could lessen how annoying they are if we could limit them to 1-2 posts per day until they grow up a bit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on October 24, 2011, 12:09:11 am
I'm pretty sure a mod like that exists.

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 24, 2011, 12:12:29 am
It does, but Val has never implemented it. Like many of the mods we get, the forum then moves and they're all gone till he reimplements them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on October 24, 2011, 01:48:53 am
can we just ban sceptile

I don't really see wha- I'm just kidding, yeah go ahead.

I've always advocated the mythical post limiter.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 26, 2011, 12:24:10 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=24657

banned this guy, not only did he kept on trying to moderate the thread after rajaa deleted a bunch of his posts he kept trying to justify it.
Its a 3 day ban, a short one.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=135297.msg1453241;topicseen#msg1453241

I hope to not see this repeated.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 26, 2011, 08:17:59 am
See, people who claim Guild is mean? The problem isn't about people being mean, the problem is about people trying to be overly nice and righteous.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 28, 2011, 04:20:14 pm
I pm'ed this guy called "Moon" yesterday after deleting one of his posts (it was a necrobump) and I got a reply this morning

fuk u nigger

banned for 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on October 28, 2011, 05:30:23 pm
I don't really think a new user would do that.
I'd say it's someone evading a ban.

But who knows.

I'd say at least a week though.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 31, 2011, 04:14:10 pm
Just so you know, I'm going to delete any and all of the following user's post that look like these:

its almost 2012 ppl, the end of the world is coming AND STILL NO BLANKAAAAAAAAAAAAA

OR ROSE

nice to know that you like Blanka that much ONO

so the roster doesn't have any of my fav character from ether side

 they ban meta knight from tourneys - which I don't care since I don't play Smash anyway

BUT HE STILL DIDN'T PUT BLANKAAAAAAAAAAAA IN THE GAMEEEEEEEE

no new Godzilla Movie till after the end of the world in 2013

ONOOOOOOOOOOOO IM GANA MURDER YOU FOR TEASING ME WITH BLANKA'S ـ ACTION FIGURES AT THE END OF MOST SF x T TRAILERS

im bored out of mugen

BUT THERE IS STILL NO WORD OF BLANKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

and they STILL HAVE NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT BLANKA BEING IN THE GAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ONO
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 31, 2011, 04:19:50 pm
so you are going to ban raptor or tell him to stop posting for a while? No issues from me with that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 31, 2011, 04:43:49 pm
He only posts occasionally, a short ban would be pointless and a long or permanent ban excessive. Deleting sounds more reasonable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 31, 2011, 11:42:19 pm
He came from Mugen Infantry after a log in problem, and he was a pretty bad poster over there. Not that that should influence any decision made here. I'm just putting that out there.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on November 02, 2011, 02:07:40 pm
Did your dad rape you or something? Wow what a fucking fagget. Get a life dick. Maybe ur jus a Mexican, it'd explain why ur stupid, stupid fuck. Fuck u brown niggger fucker shithead nigger dick cock fagget.

Bitches don't know about my clear text.

Needless to say, banned for a week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on November 02, 2011, 04:19:41 pm
Wow.
-------------
About that Blanka-Guy, shouldn't we delete videoman and uche's posts? they are as stupid as thta guy's.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on November 02, 2011, 08:15:47 pm
If on topic regardless of stupidity, no. If just moronic smiley spamming or off topic, yep.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 03, 2011, 03:19:20 am
Quote
<Gozar>: Iced? Whats good?
<Iced>: all is good
<Gozar>: I've been on another forum. Trying to make it a little "guildier", but i have a GOOD reputation there.
+++ ChanServ has given op to Zero-Sennin
<Gozar>: I added a QOTD.
<Gozar>: So any new WIPs, iced?
<Iced>: i dont do wips
<Iced>: not really
<Gozar>: Care to help me with mine?
<Gozar>: My sprites don't show up when i play Dr. Octogonapus, and i looked at the hitboxes; He is looped in Dropkick. -_-
<Iced>: i dont really code sorry
<Iced>: you will have to check out with cyanide
<Gozar>: I'm banned from the forum. Know how to get him over here?
<Gozar>: Well... temporarily banned.
<Iced>: just wait up it wont be long
<Iced>: and when you return pay attention to what got you banned the first time,and be cool about it
<Iced>: im kindof busy here so sorry for not replying a lot
<Gozar>: A little suckish titilin kicked me around while i was down.
<Iced>: lurk a bit and learn a bit, in most foruns its best to lurk around and learn how things react to each other
<Gozar>: Only thing that sucks is you only can lurk nowadays. Too late to earn your way up now...
<Gozar>: That's why the mods commonly chat, and the weak are their playthings..
<Iced>: what
<Iced>: that makes no sense yo
<Iced>: you are talking as if it was country taken over and people were being tortured
<Gozar>: Everyone who joined after 1Ultima was beaten on, in a nutshell.
<Iced>: newcomers become mods all the time, people join and go, and only when people act weird, post strange crap and keep it after being suggested to stop are they banned for short periods.
<Gozar>: Well, i saw a little thread about me i kept quiet about...
<Iced>: the people that have most problems are people from youtube that tend to act like autists sometimes for no reason, had people send me pms about sensing evil in the forum, another wanted to tell me that someone on another forum once spoke ill of them and that they were crying because someone wasnt nice to them in the guild.
<Iced>: seriously, people need to learn social manners
<Iced>: weirdness
<Iced>: well gtgo
<Gozar>: Sounds like a bunch of pussies. Bye.


Gozar come to the chat to complain about the weak being playthings.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on November 03, 2011, 03:23:41 am
he was a boring toy anyway
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on November 03, 2011, 03:52:14 am
Why did you name drop me WHHHHHHYYYYYYYY
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 03, 2011, 03:59:40 am
If he's gone for a long period of time, nothing of value will be lost. He needs to age a few years.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on November 03, 2011, 04:04:55 am
can you outgrow profound autism?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 03, 2011, 04:24:58 am
Maybe not, but you can grow out of being an annoying 12 year old brat.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on November 03, 2011, 07:06:27 am
Reminds me of somebody, but I'm not gonna say any names. :innocent:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 07, 2011, 01:41:34 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=24657

ive banned him for instilling drama and attempting to white knight threads,  now that he returned he has "da "white knight"" under his profile name. Seriously?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on November 07, 2011, 02:30:36 pm
He's had that since you banned him m'lord.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 09, 2011, 05:36:44 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=135778.new#new


Ive noticed some bans arent getting reported in this thread, everyone make a point of writing up here when you ban someone ( that is not a bot)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on November 10, 2011, 12:45:02 am
How many bans went unmentioned? =p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2011, 01:08:10 am
At least drewski that I noticed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2011, 01:25:48 am
banned arellon permanently not only was he now only posting like a bot, he refused to reply to any direct question.

i also deleted his shit thread.

The iluminatti set me to do it he was a danger to them, they set me to do it through chemtrails.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on November 11, 2011, 03:28:10 am
Just so we have something in writing. With MI dead we're obviously going to pick up a few of them. This is not an issue. So they know, this isn't MI and it's certainly not RI. Random posting of image macros is totally not the norm here and if you do this don't be surprised if the posts wind up in the trash.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 11, 2011, 03:38:10 am
Mi is permanently dead? Someone give me the info on that, please.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Vans on November 11, 2011, 03:47:44 am
Probably temporary, as usual?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on November 11, 2011, 06:36:13 am
Registration disabled and nobody has really been posting anywhere other than Random insanity for the last 3 months or so. I'm sure people are getting bored. So we'll surely gain a few. I just want something in writing where it won't be read  ;P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 16, 2011, 04:21:46 am
Notes:

1) Napoleon's next stunt is Iced's fault.
2) Fumo is either a substance abuser or someone else is using his account. Or maybe he just an idiot. Anyways, he'll be gone in a undetermined amount of time that is directly proportional to the number of funny posts in the Cyanide thread if he keeps posting shit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 16, 2011, 04:24:28 am
i asked caddie about it and he said he wanted to give napoleon another shot, so its not ENTIRELY MY FAULT .

I will wait for cyanide to chime in over fumo, since it seems like its personal.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on November 16, 2011, 04:39:24 am
I have a thread? I just got this

Quote
I just wanted to tell you to...

and here it is...






...









...







EAT A DICK!


Drink some DICKMILK you CUMGUZZLER!

Are you MAD we are dumb fucks spamming this site for ten years?

Ban me.

I dare you.

I fucking dare you to ban me.

DO IT YOU we are dumb fucks spamming this site for ten years DO IT!!  >:D >:D >:D >:D

You NIGGER!

 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
I have no idea who this person is though.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 16, 2011, 04:46:21 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=135961.msg1464713#new
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on November 16, 2011, 04:49:30 am
Wandered through the post history. Unless he took offense at me asking him to alter his sig after helping him out. I have no idea where that came from.

Meh whatever, see what his next post is.

Edit: He says he was stoned and trying to troll me. I honestly don't give 2 shits about the message. Someone else can take care of him if they were offended or think it's worth it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on November 16, 2011, 09:02:14 am
i asked caddie about it and he said he wanted to give napoleon another shot, so its not ENTIRELY MY FAULT .
What have you done?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 16, 2011, 09:59:33 pm
It's true, I figured it was ok to give him one more chance. His ban came from a really dumb moment, but we all have those.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on November 16, 2011, 11:17:53 pm
It's his 4th dumb moment. He is normal for a bit then he pulls the whole dramatic "OMG nobody loves me i'm useless feel sorry for me you all suck what fish i'm talking don't interrupt be quiet nappa this is going until i get banned" thread.

Then comes back 2 days later saying sorry. Repeat.

This is going to be caddies bag. ALL CADDIE!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 17, 2011, 02:28:35 am
I'm sure he knows this is his last chance and that he's on thin ice. The worst that can happen is he does something like that again and he's banned for good. I can live with that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on November 20, 2011, 06:25:44 pm
Permanently banned Fumo for posting child porn. That in addition to his thread in Introductions.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=20688

Do I win the dare?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 20, 2011, 06:28:51 pm
Beat to it  :(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 20, 2011, 07:03:00 pm
You altered my post on Cyanide to reflect badly on myself...
Not bad.
I secretly believe you may be a master troll disguised as a mod.
But you haven't won! I will simply edit the post back to normal!
...
...
You know what...
You're not worth it.
I'll leave it that way.
You win this time Iced.
But you have not heard the last of Fumo161.
I shall return!

I had forwarded this to cyanide back then. It seems it went down as expected.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 20, 2011, 10:04:03 pm
Permanently banned Fumo for posting child porn. That in addition to his thread in Introductions.

OH GOD. Please tell me it was at least hentai and not the real deal.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 20, 2011, 10:14:14 pm
mugen shots of loli girls having sex with one of those hentai chars.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 20, 2011, 10:50:05 pm
Still ban worthy, of course. Dayuuum. How can people be so stupid.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on November 20, 2011, 11:03:54 pm
Went ahead and got rid of the image brackets.

Didn't know if you wanted to keep the file location as proof, etc. so I left it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 24, 2011, 01:25:10 am
Moved Gozar to the cursed membergroup after wiping his third ridiculously over sized signature.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 24, 2011, 01:30:14 am
when you curse someone select the cursed thing under "additional membergroups", or else they get the name cursed under their name.  I fixed him up on this case.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on November 24, 2011, 06:27:43 am
PETERFOSTER HAS LEARNED NOTHING
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 24, 2011, 11:04:18 am
Agreed.

Hey Titiln, he makes a million bad posts a day. How about applying the Gozar rule to him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on November 24, 2011, 10:11:41 pm
yes
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 26, 2011, 12:08:02 am
Well since the cat is out of the bag, I guess I might as well post the document itself. It's not like it's gonna matter if you see it anyway; I WILL take over. :twisted:

Quote
phase 1: make fun of iced
phase 2:
phase 3: profit

it has come to my attention that elements of dissent are in this forum, they will be dealt with efficiently. I have cursed his profile and I am taking suggestions to deface it!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 26, 2011, 12:20:03 am
Big sexy female asses.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 26, 2011, 01:03:26 am
He is gay. His twisted homosexual mind can turn the most feminine looking ass into a desirable man ass.

Change it to boobs.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on November 26, 2011, 04:55:47 pm
Whats wrong with making fun of Iced?

 :???:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on November 26, 2011, 04:58:29 pm
shhh...his ego is fragile
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 28, 2011, 01:11:28 am
Gozar is banned again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on November 28, 2011, 06:57:00 am
he wont be missed
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on December 01, 2011, 09:36:07 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=77055

I've got my finger on the trigger.
Someone better stop me before I do something I probably won't regret.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on December 01, 2011, 10:14:07 am
I'm afraid you all were too late.

Pity.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 01, 2011, 10:18:33 am
I wanted to ask him a few questions. I don't think that is who his username says he is.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on December 01, 2011, 10:20:53 am
After reading the other linked user's posts, it's pretty obvious they're not the same person.

Doubt you'll get anything from a troll account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 01, 2011, 10:23:42 am
As one interrogates people, one learns that one doesn't always need to get something from someone to get something from them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on December 01, 2011, 10:25:47 am
moment of zen
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 01, 2011, 02:23:05 pm
Banned his alternate account. And changed his other ban to a full ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 02, 2011, 10:02:19 am
Banned twice. Last IP was interesting

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=tracking;sa=ip;u=77077;searchip=74.63.86.220

Check it  ;P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on December 02, 2011, 06:13:04 pm
huh.
would you look at that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 02, 2011, 06:17:35 pm
Kyo Clone 1, not that surprising!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 05, 2011, 03:52:50 pm
I sent Zantetsuken (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=76847) a warning telling him to top white-knighting.

He's generally been insulting people the whole time he's been here. He thinks it's his obligation to police people's comments and feedback about a character. I told him I would ban him for a week if he keeps it up.

Look at what he started in this thread for an example: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=136295.msg1476052#msg1476052

The same thing that other guy did in that thread about Acey's Rogue.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on December 05, 2011, 06:18:34 pm
Wooo, white knight extraordinaire.

Yeah, that needs to stop.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 06, 2011, 10:07:55 am
i got tired of reading kao minerva posts and they showed absolutely no signs of progression,so i banned him under the no autist left behind rule. While people are likely to disagree and reverse it, it should at least give him a good scare.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 06, 2011, 01:13:12 pm
Zantetsuken is banned for not following direct orders. See previous post.

One week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 06, 2011, 04:41:53 pm
@Iced:  I really doubt it's going to "scare" him.  If you were that confident that people would disagree and reverse his ban, then why not be honest and admit you banned him just because you can.  I just checked his post history and it's trash talk in the crap thread.  Did someone move all of his posts there?  If not why are you wasting your time reading that thread?

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 06, 2011, 04:46:14 pm
All of his threads were awful, so we eventually merged all of them in the shit thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 06, 2011, 05:34:53 pm
So all of those posts were elsewhere originally?  I am not going to read through that mess to try to figure it out.

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 06, 2011, 05:43:46 pm
You mean the last 15 or so? those are shit thread originals. Before those are the 'You know you're poor when...' posts, Rajaa merged that thread. And before all of that I think I merged another of his threads, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 06, 2011, 06:25:01 pm
Got it!  But I'm still not wading through that sewer to try to figure out if posts show signs of progression.

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 06, 2011, 08:04:22 pm
I thought there would be progression at first because he kept going on and on about "where is the thread where i can flame them people" and people explained him that he couldnt do that here.

Then I rechecked his latest threads and posts and they were still about "this is where imma going to flame them people".

At which point I convinced myself that there was zero progression. under normal circunstances I wouldnt ban over not progressing, but if all he can talk about is flaming them peoples then he isnt on the right forum.

Also, I sometimes ban people and let the other mods set a time, thats pretty much what I mean there, I havent set an ending time for his ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on December 08, 2011, 11:35:36 pm
If you want me to stop posting, stop talking about me while I'm banned. Then I won't have to post my planned posts. holy shit

STILL NOT LEARNING
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on December 09, 2011, 09:03:12 pm
Check me out, dickhead.

 :'(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 09, 2011, 09:21:11 pm
He stole your art! D: that goes against all the mugen rules.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 11, 2011, 10:05:03 pm
I'd like to change peter's ban ban from 30 to 1856 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 11, 2011, 10:11:41 pm
If people stopped talking about him he wouldn't reply so much and would be far less annoying. I mean, all his "bad posts" are him responding to people needling him. Stop fucking needling him and he won't reply

YOU ARE ALL DUMB!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 11, 2011, 10:20:39 pm
Oh please, how many of you have 12 year old peers? 

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on December 12, 2011, 05:13:47 am
If people stopped talking about him he wouldn't reply so much and would be far less annoying. I mean, all his "bad posts" are him responding to people needling him. Stop fucking needling him and he won't reply

YOU ARE ALL DUMB!

STOP FORCING ME TO POST BADLY

you know what?
i'm not going to stop needling him

he is not welcome here until he can learn to not react to fucking everything
if this has something to do with him being 12 so be it
he can come back in a few years
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 12, 2011, 06:28:05 am
But so many people do that. It's not just him. X made a shitty post, lets nag him about his shitty post in every topic where he's less than 100% perfect.

Making posts that have no decent content but are otherwise ok from an ontopic standpoint etc etc are not actually against the rules. We just have OCD people who hate them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on December 12, 2011, 06:41:32 am
It went far beyond simply being a bad poster.
His first posts following a ban were in response to something that was said immediately following his banning.

He consistently spent his three daily posts on empty reactions.

He has never made a post containing more than a particle of content.
His immaturity is so aggressive as to be disruptive.
He was apt to throw literal tantrums.

He did this to "get back" at us:
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=136703.0

He has bombarded multiple staff members with threatening pms. (lol)

He is/was too young to be here.

On top of it all, he name-dropped you in this little gem
OMG I CAN STILL POST WHILE IM BANNED. I AM UNSTOPPABLE. JUST DO WHAT CYANIDE SAID IN THE STAFF SECTION. STOP NEEDLING ME.

LEARN TO HATE HIM CY
LEARN TO HATE
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 12, 2011, 06:45:07 am
Why can he post while he's banned is more to the point there.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on December 12, 2011, 06:47:45 am
Banned users can still report posts.

Surprise.

Now he's super banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 12, 2011, 06:57:24 am
Oh that, i thought that got fixed. I'm still going to pretend he doesn't exist though, seriously not worth the effort.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 12, 2011, 10:05:51 am
What's this dude's deals (look at the latest account)?

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=73430 - 057mfg20xx
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=66225 - mfgRAJ2012
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=54006 - rajMFG2012

He's been on the internet since at least 2002 if you compare the information from the accounts with a Google search on the internet.

Do a Google search of the email address in the latest account and check out the "Wilde Home for Wayward Catgirls Guest Register" sites.

So, he can't possibly be Peter, unless peter lied about his age.

That's for all you people saying that that's a fishy account. =p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 12, 2011, 11:25:37 am
 057mfg20xx gets a 1 day timeout for continually double posting in the cosplay thread after being asked not to TWICE. 

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 12, 2011, 11:31:14 am
You now have blood on your hands.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on December 13, 2011, 10:09:16 pm
Isn't Zantetsuken pushing it too much?
-------------------------------------

Wow, this guy really have tons of free time. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;area=tracking;u=44507), banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 19, 2011, 07:57:29 am
i banned mf20xx permanently because net autism ( not actual autism,mind )


MEANWHILE :

LATEST REGISTERED AdonisTygerMFG User

Just as expected:
in before netautistmfg20xx1 going "RAHRAFASJDA CANT BAN ME FREEDOM OF SPEECH BRO"
Because some people have absolutely no life and need to waste what life they have attempting to hassle hobbie forums, thats how low they get.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 19, 2011, 08:09:15 am
I should probably point out that kao minerva is still banned permanently if no one bothered to edit the number of days he is banned like i asked.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 02, 2012, 08:29:19 pm

Also, to everyone else, we don't need Black Knights either.

Say your pieces about the character, and go about your businesses. Ideally, we shouldn't be concerned about what forum the creator comes from, but about the content he/she creates. Try to leave the forum business out of the comments.

Please don't make me have to come in here again and delete posts and stuff. Consistent Black or White knighting leads to getting banned.

Cheers, Mr. Rajaa.

I stand by this post and will add that this isnt a playground where you are to impress your buddies, I know some of you are searching for validation and shit, but you just come off as desperate and the mods are laughing at you in the private staff area.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 02, 2012, 11:51:17 pm
Guys, fan out, I need someone to go over the contributor thread last posts and check up on things.

Also someone to read up on the requests for fullgame boards and analyse them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on January 03, 2012, 12:56:32 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=121897.msg1490669#msg1490669

That's the only new one. Gill vouches for it which is kinda a major vote of confidence as he tends not to vouch for anything. The only question i'd be asking is if there's a lot of collaboration with IMT, why is IMT not the primary forum for development and here there is simply an announcement thread.

In fact, i shall go and ask that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 04, 2012, 12:10:02 pm
Um, this guy (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=51314) posted a picture of his(?) penis to prove how manly he was. I didn't think anyone would top drinking their own urine.

I banned him for a week. He's obnoxious. I don't know why Cybaster even bothered.

Topic at hand:
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=137671.0

Some want to Hall of Fame it, but I probably ruined it by editing out the penis. I'm pretty sure penises aren't welcome on the board, as per the rules.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on January 04, 2012, 12:21:10 pm
what the shit
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on January 04, 2012, 07:42:54 pm
Guy should be banned for longer than that, he has no redeeming qualities and never will. He can barely speak english anyway. Thread is still funny enough to hall of fame too, in my opinion.

Btw I believe he was mostly a troll, that picture wasn't his penis! It was an entirely different penis! He got it from a blog about circumcisions.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 04, 2012, 09:18:36 pm
He should have posted a big black one.

You can increase the ban-time as you see fit. :)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on January 09, 2012, 06:00:52 pm
he's not gay but he'll fuck you out of necessity.  :D

I genuinely regret missing that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on January 09, 2012, 07:57:36 pm
I don't even o_O
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 09, 2012, 10:57:31 pm
Changed the ban to permanent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 10, 2012, 07:05:01 pm
I banned this guy (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=71724) for making malicious topics, calling people "we are dumb fucks spamming this site for ten yearss," and making posts that he believes are good "trolling" techniques.

3 days.

We've had enough people suddenly become mentally unstable, so we know what's going to happen here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 10, 2012, 11:07:08 pm
Can I have the ability to edit my profile again?

When you stop replying to stuff from a month ago and start posting normally.
if this happen please remove the edit control I posted on him ( If i dont do it first)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on January 11, 2012, 12:54:03 am
peter learned nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing.
 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on January 11, 2012, 01:55:12 am
I'm going to reiterate that people should still ignore the little fucker more. Feel free to hate, but who gives a shit who he is. If his posts violate the rules, remove them or warn him. If they don't put him on your ignore list if you don't want to see his stupid posts.

As mods we have to keep him visible, but you still don't need to read what he says. Maybe he'll leave if his attention whore tactics stop working?

You spend so much time worrying about people like this. WHO FUCKING CARES.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on January 11, 2012, 02:06:10 am
tbh this happens when there's not a lot going on elsewhere on the forum
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 23, 2012, 11:28:45 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=67127
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=43618

rebanned
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 23, 2012, 05:44:02 pm
this characters was licking my balls
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 23, 2012, 05:54:53 pm
that dominic ruffin guy seems like a piece of work


next time, keep a lookout on new users, usually these people arent that smart, as demonstrated here:

dominic_ruffin@hotmail.com
dominic_marcus_ruffin@hotmail.com
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 23, 2012, 06:44:45 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=62305.msg1500696#msg1500696
im assuming either bot or something, banned for a day, when he returns lets see if he keeps going.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on January 24, 2012, 04:48:51 pm
peterfoster is banned forever yall
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 24, 2012, 06:54:39 pm
Quote
Signature:
Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter

im preemptively cursing him so that he doesnt keep leaving stupid nuggets like this. OFFICER OFFICER I SHOT THEM BUT THEY MADE ME DO IT WHEN THEY KEPT MAKING FUN OF ME SHOOTING MYSELF IN THE FOOT
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 24, 2012, 06:59:59 pm
Changing the ban triggers to full ban would do pretty much the same thing...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 24, 2012, 07:05:43 pm
then he would claim he had to register a new alt account in a new computer to be sure that we werent bad mouthing him... although now that I put it ilke this that sounds somewhat amusing in a depressing way.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 24, 2012, 07:09:12 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=77743

Rofl.

I pronounce "rofl" like this: Rah - ful.

Now, say it out loud.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 24, 2012, 07:12:33 pm
So much fucking autism.

so much.


"disables account while letting it online"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 27, 2012, 03:32:49 pm
peterfoster is banned forever yall
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 31, 2012, 11:43:20 pm
Banned Jfingas for spreading bullshit in the SFxTekken thread and a making a secondary account to support his shit.

Ban on his main account is 60 days long.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 01, 2012, 12:58:31 am
For a first offence? I think 60 days is too harsh but whatever. First offence is 3 days for a slap on the wrist up to about 2 weeks. More than that and you're possibly going a bit far.

nevertheless, not changing it, your choice.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 01, 2012, 01:37:24 am
I would also point out that this secondary account had jfingas pointing out it was his "first post" before, so it could be a same house thing.

(which would make the second account posts about "WONDER WHAT HE MEANT" be even more ridiculous )
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on February 05, 2012, 03:26:19 pm
zantetsuken is banned again
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 05, 2012, 08:02:23 pm
For a first offence? I think 60 days is too harsh but whatever.

Not quite. He tried to do the same thing earlier in the same thread...by changing his nick. He forgot the little detail that his older posts would use his 'new' username as well. Yeah, he isn't too smart.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 05, 2012, 08:11:07 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=127882.msg1467372#msg1467372
just checked to see what you were talking about, thats pretty much..wow.. really.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 05, 2012, 09:18:51 pm
zantetsuken is banned again


"Well a pointless addition to Streetfighter is now a pointless addition to my roster, nice work."
"Well she is on my roster, haven't tried her but I hated her Streetfighter Alpha 3."

he's being stupid, but I dunno if it's ban worthy
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on February 06, 2012, 05:02:56 am
he's been banned for similar stupidity before
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 07, 2012, 04:03:47 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=138518.msg1510628;boardseen#new
navana has stepped it up in the blatant stuff, i deleted his thread
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 08, 2012, 09:05:06 am
I banned Maverik (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=52076) after his long campaign of "sticking it to the lambs."

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 08, 2012, 11:49:56 am
^ there was a whole thread full of people acting stupid, why pick on that one?

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 08, 2012, 11:55:20 am
The fact that you have to ask that indicates either of two things:

1. You haven't been paying attention to what has been going on with that particular user for the amount of time he's been doing what he's been doing.

2. You're trying to play devil's advocate, and in that case, I'm not interested in playing any of your games.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 08, 2012, 01:13:45 pm
Not really, I was just wondering which post made you decide to ban him and if you intended to ban him anyway, why  let everyone poke the hornets nest?

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 08, 2012, 01:53:56 pm
Oh. I was waiting for the others who said they would do it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 09, 2012, 01:41:48 pm
Ive been hella busy, so you all will have to fend for yourself for a bit.


the report section is full of unsolved stuff


Keep an eye on navana, he was shitting the release section the other day with "TROLLING" stages made in one mspaint layer and asking people to feel sorry for him not having tutors that help him make better stages, if he keeps it up disable the threads.


Moderation log shows a flood of deleted threads by maverik
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 09, 2012, 04:29:16 pm
my computer got smashed, so i haven't really been able to do much

once i get a replacement and get my files transferred, i'll try to pick up the slack
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 12, 2012, 07:41:07 am
kyoclones 3rd alt banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 13, 2012, 09:21:24 pm
my computer got smashed, so i haven't really been able to do much

once i get a replacement and get my files transferred, i'll try to pick up the slack

and i'm back
on a new(older, less powerful) laptop
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on February 20, 2012, 03:41:50 pm
How many times has Navana been warned for having a huge ass signature again?

Edit: Aaaaaand gone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 21, 2012, 11:35:26 pm
banned maverik for attempting to derail coty.
two days ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on February 22, 2012, 12:17:19 am
i bet he's mean to waiters
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 22, 2012, 02:09:19 am
Just a general thing in relation to this.

People, please stop taking unrelated potshots at users who blow up. We're REALLY not interested in dealing with what happens afterwards.

You may find the resultant explosion funny, perhaps it is. Cleaning up afterwards isn't. Please stop.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 22, 2012, 08:19:20 am
Banned Douglas (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=77491) forever.

I consider people who are on their 3rd or 4th account to be on a short leash when it comes to being moderated.

You were perma-banned, if you're gonna ban evade, IMPROVE when you do it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 24, 2012, 09:44:16 pm
Friendly reminder, if anyone has any thread they want to suggest to be put in the news feed, pm me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 24, 2012, 09:50:19 pm
Well there's a can of worms. I do not know if that thread was the best idea.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 24, 2012, 09:53:15 pm
technically thats what they are supposed to do. I just got reminded that the newer people arent well aware that they are supposed to reply  if they think their feedback matters.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 24, 2012, 10:00:48 pm
Well there's a can of worms. I do not know if that thread was the best idea.

If it's the thread in feedback, I think it's great.  I understand the reasoning behind having this section open for viewing (uh....  not to be confused with a coffin), but it's always bothered me to be seen in here talking about people and they can't respond right in these threads.  I also realize that would be a mess, so something in feedback would be the next best thing.

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on February 24, 2012, 10:01:46 pm
people have always been able to reply to these things in feedback by making a thread, this is just to raise awareness that they can. it's in no way a bad thing
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 29, 2012, 10:48:21 pm
Banned Douglas (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=77491) forever.

I consider people who are on their 3rd or 4th account to be on a short leash when it comes to being moderated.

You were perma-banned, if you're gonna ban evade, IMPROVE when you do it.

Which were his older accounts?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 29, 2012, 10:51:43 pm
Hjk and shundi
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 29, 2012, 10:55:24 pm
Oh, I remember. Someone posted that in the notes thread, right? Looks like he finally changed his IP.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 29, 2012, 11:00:44 pm
still reads as the same ip for me. He just hadnt been banned before, neither hjk nor shundi.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 29, 2012, 11:09:46 pm
HJK and Shundi's was 68.48.245.195, Douglas's last posts all used 74.73.58.4.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 29, 2012, 11:11:18 pm
his first ones used the same tho.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on March 05, 2012, 05:39:00 am
people (several) have been complaining about e's (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=2294) posts lately. thoughts
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 05, 2012, 01:23:29 pm
Can you be a little more specific?  Like, what were the complaints about?  Is he breaking rules?

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Titiln on March 05, 2012, 03:40:16 pm
mostly what went on in diepod's thread http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=118940.msg1527332#msg1527332
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on March 05, 2012, 03:49:30 pm
wait im confused [e] just seemed to be joking for me
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on March 05, 2012, 03:54:26 pm
[E] was really just joking.

Diepod really took things too seriously.




A side note for people that "just type in a way" that makes them seem hostile:

If you don't want people to take your posts to be hostile, then change the way you post. I can go around cursing people out and saying that that's just the way I talk -- and that wouldn't make my disruptive speech okay. No one's telling you to fill your posts with emoticons, but if you don't want to seem hostile, then stop seeming hostile. But if you do want people to think you're a hostile person, then please continue to post hostilely and don't be surprised when you get shit for it.

Rocket science? No, it's not that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 05, 2012, 06:44:08 pm
E is also reaping what he sows, remember that he was one of the persons claiming maverik was shit, just because he thought it was amusing to see him flying off the handle.
He and jmorphman also had an exchange on the same day, after titiln told them both to stop derailing, he was still posting just with OBEY titiln, either to have the last word or to mock titiln intervention.


http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=2294

he also appears to have changed his profile name to spambot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on March 06, 2012, 07:09:35 pm
I told WlanmaniaX (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=66781) to stop making alternate accounts. They have been merged with the assistance of my lackey Iced.

Thank you Iced.

If he makes another account again or tries some other bullshit I'll ban him.

Cashbah.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on March 26, 2012, 09:06:35 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=78686 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=78686)

This guy is on his second oversized sig. Just putting this here as a reminder for myself, really.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 04, 2012, 12:42:13 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=96176.msg1548510;topicseen#msg1548510
banned gbk over those posts.

gave him three months but anyone can reduce it to less.

btw was reacting to a report jmorphman pmed me, but that shit is minor, his reaction is what netted him the ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 04, 2012, 12:54:19 am
i feel like three months may be a tad excessive

similar reactions have often net less
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 04, 2012, 12:59:19 am
hey he said "three is the perfect measure"!
( I have already changed it )
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 04, 2012, 08:31:36 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=140183.msg1548474#msg1548474

I'm thinking about deleting this whole thread because it's just a stage that was created to insult someone.

Yeah, it's garbage. I messaged the topic starter who is apparently 31. :(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 06, 2012, 06:03:58 pm
I have banned Zantetsuken forever for repeating the same cycle from last year. Read the Feedback thread for details: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=139053.msg1550089#msg1550089
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 06, 2012, 08:53:39 pm
That thread is a feedback to warnings thread.  I don't think it's right that you banned him after I asked him a question about his previous banning.  If people can't discuss their "horrible behavior" to try to figure out just exactly what other people thought was so horrible about it and they can't respond to a staff question IN a thread that is supposed to be about feedback without some other staff member telling them to shut up, then ban them, then may as well lock the thread.  Seriously, I asked the guy a question, I had to leave for a bit and I come back to see how he responded and he's banned?

 :S
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on April 06, 2012, 09:01:33 pm
You can get an idea of what he's been doing from his answers on that thread.
I see your point, and we should take note of that on the future, but, he was unsaveable, he keeps repeating himself for a while now with that "illstop-pum! on stupid subjects" behaviour.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 06, 2012, 09:05:34 pm
edit: ninja'd

but he wasn't still posting in that thread to discuss why he was banned
that was never his objective

his last three posts didn't even mention your question
all he was posting was that he would stop posting while continuing to throw in jabs


if he had legitimately wanted to discuss why he had been banned before, and that's what he had been posting about, he wouldn't be banned now
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 06, 2012, 09:07:03 pm
That thread is a feedback to warnings thread.  I don't think it's right that you banned him after I asked him a question about his previous banning.  If people can't discuss their "horrible behavior" to try to figure out just exactly what other people thought was so horrible about it and they can't respond to a staff question IN a thread that is supposed to be about feedback without some other staff member telling them to shut up, then ban them, then may as well lock the thread.  Seriously, I asked the guy a question, I had to leave for a bit and I come back to see how he responded and he's banned?

 :S
I thought you were doing your usual "airhead" gimmick in that thread and didn't really want to know about his bans.

This goes beyond the scope of you asking him a question and you wanting an answer. You should have already known about his previous bans as a moderator of this forum, as they happened when you were online and active.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 06, 2012, 09:09:19 pm
What horrible thing did you do to get banned?

 :(

this does seem sarcastic
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 06, 2012, 09:27:43 pm
That thread is a feedback to warnings thread.  I don't think it's right that you banned him after I asked him a question about his previous banning.  If people can't discuss their "horrible behavior" to try to figure out just exactly what other people thought was so horrible about it and they can't respond to a staff question IN a thread that is supposed to be about feedback without some other staff member telling them to shut up, then ban them, then may as well lock the thread.  Seriously, I asked the guy a question, I had to leave for a bit and I come back to see how he responded and he's banned?

 :S
I thought you were doing your usual "airhead" gimmick in that thread and didn't really want to know about his bans.

This goes beyond the scope of you asking him a question and you wanting an answer. You should have already known about his previous bans as a moderator of this forum, as they happened when you were online and active.

As it happens I did want an answer.  I don't see everything the same way you guys do, I don't think anyone is "unsaveable" (except maybe vyx who actually managed to irritate me).  Most of you (imo) are overly aggressive in the way you deal with unpopular or potential trouble-causing members.  If you come across as being aggressive, mean, condescending, insulting, whatever else, then you can expect at least some kind of token resistance if not flat out defiance.   I don't want an answer from YOU about why he was banned, I wanted the answer from him. For him to put it into words... which he seemed to be doing.

What is the point of having a feedback thread if people get banned when they are asked to give feedback.

  :S
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 06, 2012, 09:39:15 pm
he wasn't banned for giving feedback

he was banned for his behavior and for his repeated failure to follow fairly clear-cut instructions from the staff

this started before your question and continued even after it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 06, 2012, 09:41:38 pm
I know he was being a shithead, but permabanning him just seems premature.

I don't think anyone is "unsaveable" (except maybe vyx who actually managed to irritate me).  Most of you (imo) are overly aggressive in the way you deal with unpopular or potential trouble-causing members.  If you come across as being aggressive, mean, condescending, insulting, whatever else, then you can expect at least some kind of token resistance if not flat out defiance.
I agree with this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 06, 2012, 09:42:53 pm
That thread is a feedback to warnings thread.  I don't think it's right that you banned him after I asked him a question about his previous banning.  If people can't discuss their "horrible behavior" to try to figure out just exactly what other people thought was so horrible about it and they can't respond to a staff question IN a thread that is supposed to be about feedback without some other staff member telling them to shut up, then ban them, then may as well lock the thread.  Seriously, I asked the guy a question, I had to leave for a bit and I come back to see how he responded and he's banned?

 :S
I thought you were doing your usual "airhead" gimmick in that thread and didn't really want to know about his bans.

This goes beyond the scope of you asking him a question and you wanting an answer. You should have already known about his previous bans as a moderator of this forum, as they happened when you were online and active.

As it happens I did want an answer.  I don't see everything the same way you guys do, I don't think anyone is "unsaveable" (except maybe vyx who actually managed to irritate me).  Most of you (imo) are overly aggressive in the way you deal with unpopular or potential trouble-causing members.  If you come across as being aggressive, mean, condescending, insulting, whatever else, then you can expect at least some kind of token resistance if not flat out defiance.   I don't want an answer from YOU about why he was banned, I wanted the answer from him. For him to put it into words... which he seemed to be doing.

What is the point of having a feedback thread if people get banned when they are asked to give feedback.

  :S


I wasn't explaining to you why he was banned and I never did explain to you in any post in this thread or in the feedback thread. Like I said, I thought your post was part of your "airhead" gimmick and I didn't take it seriously. I tend to do that often with your posts.

Him explaining why he was banned would have accomplished nothing. I don't know what you're getting at.

But maybe you're right, I probably should have given him a 1000th chance to redeem himself after he went into a thread to do exactly what I was trying to tell him not to do through the privacy of personal messages, as not to derail threads. Or maybe I should have let him derail Titiln's review thread some more, you know, since he doesn't like Titiln and he HAS to post in a thread that says "Titiln Reviews Characters" and was started by Titiln himself.

Having him explain why was banned and what he's not sorry about would have definitely stopped him from doing that. Why didn't I think of that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on April 06, 2012, 09:46:08 pm
 :ninja: 'ed
As I said, we should have leaved him alone in that specific thread, we didn't and things turned out this way and he started his usual routine... that he was going to start sooner or later anywhere else.
I agree that the scenario where he was banned was not the best, but I totally agree with the banning, it's not the first or the second time he end up like that, it was really a sooner or later matter.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 06, 2012, 09:53:13 pm
he wasn't banned for giving feedback

he was banned for his behavior and for his repeated failure to follow fairly clear-cut instructions from the staff

this started before your question and continued even after it

In your opinion; what is the purpose of that feedback thread?


Rajaa, he apologized for the cheap shots at titiln and he admitted they were childish.  Do you have a reason to believe he lied about being sorry for that?  He was being an idiot in titiln's feedback thread, but that is an entirely different thread in a different section started for different reasons than the feedback thread.   You can't force people to like each other, but when one apologizes for bad behavior I dont think you should reward them with a ban.

 :S
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 06, 2012, 10:03:57 pm
He was being an idiot in titiln's feedback thread, but that is an entirely different thread in a different section started for different reasons than the feedback thread.

...from the feedback to warnings thread
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty


no, his sorry was not genuine
his only purpose for posting at all was to take jabs at titiln

after his half-hearted apology/jab at the community he was asked to stop posting
to which he responded with two more identical apology/jabs

i'm not saying i would have banned him at that point, but i also don't feel rajaa was really out of line
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on April 06, 2012, 10:11:43 pm
Believing in his apologies at this point is like believing in vyx enterprises international.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on April 06, 2012, 10:27:47 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

That's a perfectly valid opinion in that thread about a recent staff thing, and by themselves I see no problem with those posts, although not many would agree with his opinion. stating it once would have been enough I guess, but that seemed to be his initial intention, as stated in his second post. he screwed up posting a third time on that page, mgbenz immediately called him out on it, and the thing was a lost cause from that point.

I was not here in the time when he was last banned so I have no opinion on the ban itself.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 06, 2012, 10:30:00 pm
when no one was found agreeing with him he went to the titiln review thread and tried to do the same there.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on April 06, 2012, 10:41:53 pm
I was not here in the time when he was last banned so I have no opinion on the ban itself. On the ban itself, he probably had it coming.

fixed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 06, 2012, 10:56:56 pm
not that im commenting on the other thread, i really dont feel like reading it up (and you all are all already on it so i dont have to ) . I did however think he was being a huge asshole when he tried going into the titiln thread.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=139814.msg1550107#msg1550107

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on April 06, 2012, 11:17:19 pm
I'd have to agree with the decision to ban him.  He was going out of his way to be disruptive and take needless jabs at the community, and he made it abundantly clear that he wasn't willing to listen to what anybody tried to tell him.  Perma-banning does sound a little harsh, but from what I understand he was given every opportunity to fix his behavior and he chose not to.  I don't think that there's very much more that could be done for him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 07, 2012, 04:01:28 am
I ended up reading it through.


While i dont mind his banning due to the previous problems and him inciting titiln. And yes i dont believe he was sorry at all.

A permaban might be too much, considering he isnt too disruptive.

He was justified to give him a ban but not a permaban...
well he's been banned several times before for basically the same reasons and has not changed at all. he has also been explained the reasons by most of the staff but he is keeping his mentalilty that everyone else is who's wrong and now him

well he can be annoying but is barely active and is not the kind of user you'll call the mods immediately if you run into him. could become a regular user if he just decided to just OPEN HIS HEART and stop bringing bak pointless arguments he can't even back up
Basically this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 07, 2012, 11:38:47 pm
I just noticed that whoever banned navana didnt put a warning here, so this is it.
Navana chance was expired when he kept posting in bright pink, got filtered asked not to do it again , found a workaround and kept doing it while using a combo of honey sugar nonsense.

Please everyone, try to keep warnings about what bans you do and why here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on April 08, 2012, 08:30:17 pm
Banned Luigi/Saohc's alt account.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=Kurairush
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 10, 2012, 08:14:54 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=140340.0
BAD JMORPHMAN BAD

my zan point is still counting and waiting for feedback
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 10, 2012, 08:42:03 pm
How about a month.

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 10, 2012, 08:43:57 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=140340.0
BAD JMORPHMAN BAD
:megaeyes:


I have no real feelings on the subject of Zantetsuken
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 10, 2012, 08:52:51 pm
you know better than that  >:(

you're cluttering the forum
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 10, 2012, 09:26:11 pm
I'm gonna get rid of his ban one last time and give him more more chance. He's had a taste of the dungeon (M.I.) and maybe he's learned his lesson.

However, if he comes back and does the same exact thing without any good reason, and he doesn't stop when he is told to stop in way that we've all recently discussed was the right way, then he's going to be gone for a very long time because enough is enough.



Is there anyone else that we want to give a ninety-ninth chance to? I think GBK's ban should be stopped too, even more so than Zantetsuken's. But I didn't make that ban, so it's up to Iced to correct that wrong.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 10, 2012, 09:30:16 pm
gbk reaction in titiln formspring made me think he wasnt sorry at all for his reaction, so i would rather let him live it through, as for Zan,  he should have at least a while in a ban not just have it disappear.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 10, 2012, 09:35:56 pm
It's too late. I made it disappear and it would be problematic to just put it back on because I already messaged him about how he should behave now that it's lifted.

Anything wrong from him and it's 3 months, no questions asked.



GBK shouldn't have been banned, though. He was posting cosplay in a cosplay thread and he was unnecessarily called out on it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 10, 2012, 09:38:11 pm
him being called out or not is not relevant to his ban,he wasnt banned over posting cosplay but for his reaction. I would have banned anyone answering to your polite posts like that.

Had he told me I was wrong politely I wouldnt have done a thing to him. 

If anything I could have sent him that call through pm instead of posting it , but it still didnt gave him a reason to answer like that.

the point is to discourage doing that back off after a reaction like that  and dont do anything and it becomes an accepted reaction he will repeat at the first chance.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 10, 2012, 09:39:09 pm

Is there anyone else that we want to give a ninety-ninth chance to?

Maverik?  Or am I pushing my luck?

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 10, 2012, 09:40:24 pm
^yes

most, if not all of the users we've perma-banned genuinely deserve it
i feel mav is one of those users
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 10, 2012, 09:40:38 pm
Do you mind not joking about stuff that will have maverik and others get all worked up about ?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 10, 2012, 09:40:50 pm
GBK shouldn't have been banned, though. He was posting cosplay in a cosplay thread and he was unnecessarily called out on it.
He was criticizing everyone's cosplay pics and always made sure to post another picture whenever someone posted one of theirs. Iced told him to cut it out. If he did or even if he just disagreed politely it would've ended there. But he didn't. He just started saying fuck you a bunch of times for no real reason.

That's not how anyone should behave.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 10, 2012, 09:50:26 pm
I know what he was doing, but when you get over that fact and realize that it's just a cosplay thread and he can criticize other pictures if he wants, then it's not that serious. It's not like people were posting their own personal cosplay pictures and he was saying, "You're ugly and stupid, you did it wrong, this is better." He can dismiss any picture if he wants, it's not like his opinion really matters in the long run. He wasn't being disruptive or derailing the topic.

Him bursting out and cursing at Iced doesn't entail a ban of anything over a week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 10, 2012, 09:58:45 pm
He wasn't being disruptive or derailing the topic.
He WAS being disruptive because he had an obsessive need to always have the last post in that thread. He basically said that he claimed the thread and that it was his. That's not normal behavior nor is it GOOD behavior, so telling him to cut it out is not unwarranted.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 10, 2012, 10:04:15 pm
How did him posting in the thread disrupt the flow the forum? I don't remember him claiming that he owns the threads coming up more than once.

Either way, it's up to Iced to get rid of the ban or make it more reasonable since it isn't reasonable at 3 months or 1 month or whatever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 10, 2012, 10:12:31 pm
jm, his posting in the cosplay thread is not what is up to debate, but his cussing , since it earned him the ban.

In his last post he challenged me to ban him or whatever, and so I did. I dont really believe that for someone that is as "internet" active as he claims to be a week would even be "felt", thats why i went with something longer when I reduced it. im willing to lower it further ( but not unban him right out ) , but I would want to hear others oppinions on it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 10, 2012, 10:14:44 pm
jm, his posting in the cosplay thread is not what is up to debate
I know, I'm just saying he was being a huge douche in it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 10, 2012, 10:15:08 pm
he tried to call iced's 'bluff' and messed up

as i remember, it was not just a single 'fuck you', but several spread over a couple posts


he fought the law, and the law won
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 10, 2012, 10:16:20 pm
I will once again state, except for special circumstances, no ban should be longer than 6 months and staff should discuss any ban longer than 3 days.  That gives a little time for things to cool off.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on April 10, 2012, 10:27:26 pm
Yep, cut gbk's ban, what he did was stupid, the formspring thing, then, when you look at what he did the way Rajaa is putting it, it's not that bad.
I mean, he is not one of those who you can't talk, he does understand, he's sometimes just too impulssive.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 10, 2012, 10:32:05 pm
I mean, he is not one of those who you can't talk, he does understand, he's sometimes just too impulssive.
I think the formspring question shows that he DOESN'T understand. At all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 10, 2012, 10:32:14 pm
GBK's ban has only got 23 days left on it. I think that's appropriate for what he said to Iced.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 10, 2012, 10:33:15 pm
I mean, he is not one of those who you can't talk, he does understand, he's sometimes just too impulssive.
I think the formspring question shows that he DOESN'T understand. At all.

the formspring thing just shows that he's bitter
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on April 10, 2012, 10:34:12 pm
staff should discuss any ban longer than 3 days.  That gives a little time for things to cool off.
Not exactly. Atleast I don't think so. It depends on what user we're talking about. Do you think that SBZ would care if we banned him for 3 days? It's not like he would be one of those people who would "cool off" anyway because he annoys people for fun.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 10, 2012, 10:36:49 pm
i mean, the staff should discuss(or at least announce) any ban

it's just good procedure
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on April 10, 2012, 10:38:56 pm
Yeah I meant the last sentence. Discussing bans is good.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 10, 2012, 10:45:48 pm
Well right now there is discussion on reducing the length of bans given quite a while AFTER they were given.  It's way too easy for someone to be banned forever here with no discussion, and it puts the staff person who did the banning in the position to have to admit they were wrong.  What I'm saying is a 3 day ban is a timeout thats allowing things to cool off for the moderator who did the banning as well.  If you announce you banned someone for 3 days and say you want to make it a month or 3 months or whatever, it gives the others a chance to agree, disagree or say they don't care either way.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on April 10, 2012, 10:49:43 pm
If you announce you banned someone for 3 days and say you want to make it a month or 3 months or whatever, it gives the others a chance to agree, disagree or say they don't care either way.
Ah, okay that sounds good.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 10, 2012, 10:50:20 pm
you're suggesting we start with a short preliminary ban and increase the length after discussion, as opposed to the often used opposite

as long as the ban can still be increased even if some disagree, i can't say i disagree with the idea
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 10, 2012, 10:57:52 pm
^ yeah that.  I'm not gonna throw a hissy fit at every ban and insist no one miss out on more than 3 days of fun here at the guild, I promise.  I just think it's better to take the time to reason it out first.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on April 10, 2012, 11:07:04 pm
i've brought this up in another thread

let's discuss it there
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 11, 2012, 05:49:12 am
For all of you spectators, no we are not falling apart as staff, we're just coming to terms with the new ideas of the new moderators!

:ninja:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 15, 2012, 12:06:28 pm
Is this signature okay?

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=riccochet

And this one (plus the avatar)?

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=MalaDingDong



They strike me as might-not-be-acceptable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 15, 2012, 04:01:41 pm
The first one is kind of immature.  I'm not even sure what the second one is.

:bow:

Edit:  OK, I now know what it is.  Showing photos of controlled substances isn't the same as trying to sell them. Once again, kind of immature considering this isn't a stoner forum.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 15, 2012, 11:24:06 pm
MDD's avatar+sig is only offensive to good taste.

seriously it's terrible
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on April 16, 2012, 03:05:19 am
I don't see a problem with either.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 16, 2012, 03:12:55 am
Okay. I was just wondering because they're not your usual signatures.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 17, 2012, 07:03:18 pm
forgot to mention but i did shave a week off gbk ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on April 21, 2012, 03:27:27 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=maximum+zero

Super Dragon Blade made an alternate account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 21, 2012, 04:07:32 pm
It's not the first one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on April 21, 2012, 04:35:30 pm
He had another one before?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 21, 2012, 06:30:56 pm
Yeah. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=138052.msg1500973#msg1500973)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 04, 2012, 09:05:38 am
This guy.
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=Senaden

His post history is horrible.
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=78135;area=showposts;start=0



I don't want to ban him because I can't prove that he's Ohsky besides that fact that he posts exactly like Ohsky. And the fact that's he's in Spain, like Ohsky.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: OZ on May 04, 2012, 09:47:55 am
my only doubt would come from the fact that he posts even worse than ohsky  :S
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 04, 2012, 10:05:36 am
Good chance he's just here to be a troll. He started almost as soon as he joined.

Who wants to try the ignore completely tactic? Its that or ban. Everyone put him on ignore and don't reply. Let's try it. Please.

Otherwise you may as well ban him because he's not going to change if he's started this already.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 04, 2012, 09:27:18 pm
The guy is completely hopeless, let's just ban him now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 04, 2012, 09:41:41 pm
The guy is completely hopeless, let's just ban him now.
But he hasn't done anything wrong, unless it can be proved he's actually an alternate account for ohsky.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 04, 2012, 09:43:49 pm
We're tyrants, we don't need proof.

Also, "trolling" and admitting that you're doing it because you think people like is wrong. :ninja:

But yeah, the ignore thing should be fine. We don't need to wave wands and press ban buttons just yet. Until he starts making avatars with people doing number two. I also told him not to post outside of the shit thread, since he only posts to troll, according to himself.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 04, 2012, 09:48:19 pm
He's a terrible poster.

Not banning him is falling again in the same old loop:

'Peace' > Someone dumb shows up > makes bad posts/threads > it becomes obvious he's hopeless > he gets humiliated > his posts become disruptive > short ban > makes bad post/threads again > he gets humiliated > his posts become disruptive >short ban > makes bad post/threads again > he gets humiliated > his posts become disruptive > repeat previous steps >Full ban > back to square one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 04, 2012, 09:51:17 pm
I'm OK with that loop.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on May 04, 2012, 09:52:12 pm
Bad poster.

Ban for enough time for him to grow up. Maybe he'll be worth something to the forum when he ages up a little. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on May 04, 2012, 10:04:47 pm
I'd ban him.
Am I a bad person?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 05, 2012, 12:20:50 am
His FIRST posts were pretty stupid, but that's all they were. They moved into insulting after someone did the usual pull him up for being stupid. If that hadn't happened he wouldn't actually be worthy of a ban at all. Yeah fine, he's trolling. Rather than simply banning him which we've done oh so many times before lets attempt something else for the hell of it huh?

We can always ban him later but lets try blanking first. You don't respond, you convince other users not to respond. Trolls work with attention, if there is no attention he'll either leave of his own accord or become normal.

This doesn't mean you don't delete things that ACTUALLY breach the rules. If he posts porn or warez, boot him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 05, 2012, 12:32:46 am
Try to fix him first. Even people that were actual hazards had patience applied, if the guy isnt disupting release threads and attempting to troll people deviating threads into stupid dom i rather tolerate for a bit and ban later than just ban outright.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 05, 2012, 12:42:15 am
Trolls work with attention, if there is no attention he'll either leave of his own accord or become normal.

This doesn't mean you don't delete things that ACTUALLY breach the rules. If he posts porn or warez, boot him.

This.

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 05, 2012, 12:43:27 am
Don't try and fix him by posting at him/pointing out stupidity/insulting him.

Just let him be. Let him find his feet. See what happens.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 05, 2012, 12:47:32 am
yes that sounds good, I wasnt really thinking of actively fixing him but i didnt phrase it right.

There are areas in this forum where I wont tolerate people doing really stupid shit, and we all here have the knowledge of what areas are more important. If it comes to those then yeah, I would ban for "that". If not, its not that serious we cant let him find a better behaviour.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on May 05, 2012, 12:59:09 am
yeah I wouldn't ban someone for mostly posting shit in the shit topic. he keeps it there, so whatever.. :P[avatar]//mugenguild.com/~valodim/twi/notamusedsit.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 05, 2012, 01:21:18 am
Uh, that's because we merged several of his threads from ATL there. Like 4 of them, I think. Most of his post story isn't contained there because he knew low quality posts go in that thread, it's because he doesn't know any other kind.
 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on May 05, 2012, 01:38:27 am
Normally when someone's stated goal is just to troll, I'd vote to just ban them right away.  But this guy is so bad at it it's not really causing a problem.  I say we go with ignoring him, but still keep him on a short leash.  Just leave him be as long as he keeps his 'trolling' in the shit thread, but if he starts spreading his crap around the rest of forum then drop the banhammer on him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on May 11, 2012, 12:43:26 pm
This guy appears to be ban evading. Sort of.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=MKPrizeFighter

He was under the name MKRequiem a few years ago. Does anyone know why he was banned?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on May 11, 2012, 01:14:41 pm
It's hard to tell if it's evasion. I can find no mention of the user or his name in the ban log (or members list). It's possible he was simply here and nobody liked him so he left.

Not a big deal.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on May 11, 2012, 01:19:19 pm
yeah even if there was something "a few years ago", no need to dig up dirt now if we can't even remember :P:goi:[avatar]//mugenguild.com/~valodim/twi/reg1.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 23, 2012, 10:36:03 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=141357.0


Banned koakuma for 1 day for harassing a new user and telling him to quit mugen.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 02, 2012, 09:39:04 am
Let's take a look at rajATmfg's (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=rajATmfg) entire posting history at Mugen Guild real quick.

His first post is reviving a 2 year old request topic to also request the character. Next two posts are quoting entire cosplay posts that are filled with pictures to say "nice, I like them". Then he made this post:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=141407.0 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=141407.0)

Completely pointless, strange topic filled with giant, size changing bolded text.

Next two posts appeared to be trashed topic revivals that were basically "THE LINKS ARE BROKEN, THIS IS CRAP". Then two more cosplay picture quotes with "nice pictures". Then he replies to a thread with just the text "WHO CARES", again in big bold letters. Another thread he replied to saying "that sucks". Finally, his next three posts are actually a TRIPLE post that bumped that strange topic to say he fixed the title and to vote in a poll he added.

That's his entire post history. I don't know what to think of this guy.

Edit: Since I've made this post, he's created another thread.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=141641.msg1579206;topicseen#msg1579206 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=141641.msg1579206;topicseen#msg1579206)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 02, 2012, 09:44:06 am
Just watch him. He's a twerp, obviously, but as long as the userbase doesn't try to "educate" him, (something they are shit at btw) he's not going to be a problem a single click won't resolve (remove post)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 02, 2012, 10:03:44 am
Since this, he's revived a topic...twice. After I removed his first post. For more content-less "whatever" posts. Your solution is to "just watch him" or start deleting his posts? Like directly deleting his posts with no split/pm? And not letting him know what he's doing is against the rules or anything?

Is that really what you're saying, or did you not mean that?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 02, 2012, 10:04:25 am
He's a spammer and he's only here to be stupid.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=141643.msg1579214#msg1579214

I banned him forever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 02, 2012, 10:21:08 am
I banned him forever.
I think that's going overboard. It's way too premature.

although I did just have this PM conversation...

I deleted your post in this thread (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=116570.0) as the thread was several years old.

Try PM'ing the author or posting in the request section; bumping old threads takes the spotlight away from newer stuff.
What thread?
:wall:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on June 02, 2012, 10:24:02 am
He's a spammer and he's only here to be stupid.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=141643.msg1579214#msg1579214

I banned him forever.

I thought it was agreed we were all going to discuss "banning forever" before you did it again.  I guess I was wrong.

 :S
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 02, 2012, 10:29:37 am
I didn't know we agreed to that. I remember discussing it. But feel free to unban him and discuss it.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=PeterFoster111

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=141643.msg1579220#new

Good news for all of you.

I'm banned forever.

Please, just let the ban quietly pass and whatever you do, I beg you, DO NOT CHEER. Do not celebrate that you've won about the fact that I'm banned forever. Let it slide, PLEASE DO NOT CHEER. Don't cause me to shitpost again. I didn't even recall making a shitty post before I got perma'd. I hated this forum anyway. It doesn't even feel I'm taking part in a MUGEN forum.

Well, ungoodbye to you all and I hope you all burn in hell.

- Peter H.

Yeah,yeah. Whatever. Go Play With Yourself,You IDIOT!

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=112183.msg1501391#msg1501391
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 02, 2012, 10:36:12 am
That was him quoting Peter H and calling him and idiot in case you didn't catch that, Rajaa. He just didn't use the quote feature.

That was one of the posts I removed. He just registered a new account and sent me this message:

I have a question:
Have You Been Banned Before?
I just need to know. O.K.?

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=No+Need+For+A+Username (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=No+Need+For+A+Username)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 02, 2012, 10:39:15 am
He was quoting Peter Foster for what reason? I thought he was re-posting his own post. :S

But if you guys want to discuss this, then as I said, unban him so he can act oblivious and spam/revive topics. He's worse than a spam bot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 02, 2012, 10:46:10 am
He had no reason. He's done it several times though.

Sopa dead



Yay

Whatever.

From the same thread, a Peter Foster post he quoted and replied to. Looking now, he was actually quoting Peter Foster's current signature, which is why it wasn't properly quoted.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=Sol+Badguy+Z (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=Sol+Badguy+Z)

So yeah, he wasn't reposting his own post. Instead, he revived a several month old topic to insult a banned user.

...Do you think he's Peter Foster? And he was doing it to look cool?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 02, 2012, 10:53:30 am
But the profile that you just linked to is SBZ's profile. :S

I think the guy's a useless spammer who's only purpose is to come on once in a while and spam, then act oblivious afterward.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 02, 2012, 10:57:56 am
Click the damn profile link and look at it. >:(

Edit: Spose I shoulda said SBZ instead of Peter H or Peter Foster. Since SBZ's profile is made to look exactly like Peter's now. That's what confused me. :(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 02, 2012, 11:18:46 am
Actually, i had taken no action. I also think that we STILL permaban too much.

His previous posts over all his accounts? About 6. Now, even if his only purpose is to be a spammer we have to make SOME effort to stop that. And that's not "ban him" a button you are far too quick to hit (Rajaa). Specially permanent bans.

I don't think he's peter foster either, otherwise he's made 2 accounts before he even became peterfoster and none of his old ones were banned.

A permanent partial ban that doesn't stop him simply re-registering and only bans by email? You may as well have not banned him at all. I am reverting it to 3 days to let him cool off, 3 days is the standard slap on the wrist and it's where we should go first as we have very few options.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 02, 2012, 11:26:46 am
Iced, when you see this can you merge rajATmfg's two accounts?

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=rajATmfg (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=rajATmfg)

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=No+Need+For+A+Username (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=No+Need+For+A+Username)

Also, Cyanide, I wanna agree with you so bad because I don't really think he's done anything to get permanently banned. But...every single one of his posts has been a broken rule, spam, useless and/or insulting, or flat out annoying to look at. And I really doubt he's going to stop doing that.

And yeah, now that I know that was actually SBZ and not Peter, it's obvious it's not him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 02, 2012, 11:34:55 am
I honestly think we should go through the motions regardless as his previous accounts don't display these actions. If he winds up being a total waste of space sure, maybe he'd like to prove us wrong?

Edit: Have PM'ed him explaining why he's banned, why it is as long as it is, and what will happen if he continues. This is his chance, it's up to him to take it or he's gone for good.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 02, 2012, 11:51:29 am
Sounds very reasonable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 02, 2012, 12:58:58 pm
And that's not "ban him" a button you are far too quick to hit (Rajaa). Specially permanent bans.
I haven't banned that many people and I don't do it quickly when I do. Aside from this one because come on.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 02, 2012, 01:15:40 pm
Dont permaban so quickly, even if they are being twerps at least accertain that they wont really change or anything before BRINGiNG IT TO DISCUSSION. Which also leads to, yeah we should have discussed it ( like caddie was doing ) before banning him permanently if that was what the discussion come to.

Also, search for that mail in our database im having a huge feel that there are more alts there where the only thing that changes is the number of the mail.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 02, 2012, 01:19:05 pm
I am now aware that the discuss policy is globally effective. I will make sure to discuss bans from now on before I make them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 02, 2012, 02:17:17 pm
only the perma ones. its obvious we need to be able to ban people through our own decisions and not by council for pettier stuff ( still, leave a warning with any ban anyone makes )
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 07, 2012, 12:38:56 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=79725 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=79725)

This guy registered another account. After merging the two accounts, is there anyway to ban this guy JUST from registering new accounts? I'm fairly sure there is.

Edit: More clarity, this is the rajATmfg guy and he's registered like 7 accounts so far. And this new one is brand new.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 07, 2012, 10:22:40 pm
Password incorrect about 5 times, so he registers a new account?

In fact, he re-registered after it expired. Lets move him back to the previous account, and reapply the ban to just "Cannot Register" it's already registered, it'll lock him into one account and disallow his IP from re-registering. That would be permanent, but it's not the same as being unable to post login or view.

He's not even evading at this point, he's just... dumb. Also i don't want to simply permaban him and am going to push other methods for a bit.

Made the changes to the ban, is anyone against me enabling this permanently? Call it a test if you like. Let's see what he does.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on June 07, 2012, 11:39:50 pm
I don't really see a big problem with his reregistering. So long as he's not doing it out of malice (which would be an asshole thing to do, and thus against the rules), it doesn't really matter that much or bother anyone.

Did anyone just pm him and educate him about the password recovery feature?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2012, 01:49:36 am
I'll try it with his new account, it does make more sense if he sticks to one though as it can make things... messy if he's been banned on an older one we lose the trail to some extent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 08, 2012, 06:01:36 am
I don't really see a big problem with his reregistering. So long as he's not doing it out of malice (which would be an asshole thing to do, and thus against the rules), it doesn't really matter that much or bother anyone.

Did anyone just pm him and educate him about the password recovery feature?

He's done it to ban evade in the past. Plus there's all the reasons why multiple accounts is a bad thing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2012, 06:37:31 am
I see one previous with short searching, no notes on it though. Regardless, experimenting here. For once, i don't want to simply thump a permaban on someone.

If you're going to ban someone please add notes people.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2012, 06:47:25 am
That guy is the equivalent of a spambot. Why do you care about him more than someone who isn't a spambot?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2012, 08:53:31 am
I don't "care" about him. But there has to be better ways of dealing with ANYTHING than simply perma ban. He barely posts, he has no name for himself, this is the perfect time to try different methodology without any real risk of a giant shitfest because of it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2012, 09:22:35 am
When he was posting he was spamming, when he was asked to stop he acted oblivious, registered a different account, asked a moderator (Caddie) if he's ever been banned before (again acting or actually being oblivious), and then registered more alternate accounts without replying to personal messages on the issue of his spamming and account registrations.

This guy is unfit to be a guinea pig because he's either really slow, doesn't actually care, or is a human spammer and/or "troll." If you're gonna try to use a different method to save someone, it's got to be someone who actually has a "name for themselves" in some way, someone who actually cares to be here, and someone who responds to personal messages and isn't a seemingly outright moron.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2012, 10:24:27 am
But if we do it that way we'll never get anywhere anyway because nobody wants to do it when it comes up. This is a "nothing" person. What's the WORST that can happen here? I lose a couple of minutes? I don't care about a couple of minutes. It has always been we do what we've always done. I wanted to do something similar with navana and nobody agreed with THAT either.

This is happening, if all it achieves is that i waste some time i do not give a fuck. I want to see another change and part of that is finding ways to stop people without having to ban them forever and if possible TALK them out of what they're doing. If that means i start with someone who won't respond to it at all, i don't give a flying fuck.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 08, 2012, 10:35:56 am
We tried for a long time with Navana, but he always did something OPPOSITE of what he was advised and he always came back with something new to show how different he is. Do I have to link to that long message we had? And Iced conversations? We didn't instantly ban him -- he got loads of chances; in fact, he's not even banned any longer because he has another chance. Maybe he's learned his lesson because he actually wants to be here and use the forum's resources. Who knows? You could have tried to talk to him yourself. Iced did it, MissBHaven did it, I did it. We did succeed for a short period of time but he always relapsed until now. So I wouldn't put that in the past tense as it's still an ongoing thing until we forget about it.

If you want to try with this guy, then go ahead. My point wasn't that you are wasting your time, my point was that you are wasting your time on a spambot. But since you don't care and it's not going to blow up in the forum's face, then I don't see an immediate problem.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on June 08, 2012, 12:02:32 pm
I want to see another change and part of that is finding ways to stop people without having to ban them forever and if possible TALK them out of what they're doing.

I agree 100% with this.

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 08, 2012, 12:54:25 pm
Cyanide:

Navana probably needed some action taken against him. Not permanent though, he was just using a silly, annoying gimmick that was a bit obtrusive mostly because of the font color he used. And he kept doing it despite being asked to stop.

This raj guy probably shouldn't be banned permanently, he needed something at least temporary though because he went on a spree of posting that was reviving long dead topics, starting the weirdest, random no content topics all over the place, and triple posting in threads. While 7 is an exaggeration, he's registered at least 5 accounts on this board including 1 or 2 while ban evading. He at least should be banned from registering new accounts, doesn't that seem reasonable? He was behaving worse than the spam bots we used to get, just without the links to cheap jewelry and handbags.

I did try and talk to him btw, asking him to edit his posts instead of triple posting and to stop reviving topics right before Rajaa banned him. If you wanna give MORE talking a chance than by all means do it because I mean I at least bring things that are happening up here before taking actions like banning, but sometimes actions need to be taken instead of just sitting at the side lines and saying "he needs to be talked to more". Just how many times have people been put on "probation" and have ended up "violating" it? How many "success stories" have there been? Why wasn't KyoClone given a million chances?

God damn what happened to me and why have I become so cynical and jaded, how do you all not hate me for how I've been recently. I certainly do.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on June 08, 2012, 01:00:43 pm
Caddie I'm not sure what you mean. You're still the super friendly cool guy that I know. Atleast to me anyway. We all are a little cynical and jaded sometimes, it's no reason to get all depressed and stuff. Cheer up man.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 08, 2012, 01:19:31 pm
Please refrain from bringing up the thing that single handedly mangled elecbyte forums so they were a horrible place to even visit again thanks.

I'm not blaming anyone about anything. I want a test case, this is an opportunity, nothing more. If it winds up being a bad opportunity, so what? So far all we've established is when he returned from his ban he didn't post anything. If he's an intentional spammer, he obviously plans to pick his moment which with the number of g.mods we have will never come. If he's an idiot, perhaps we can upgrade him from that so he potentially never posts, but at the same time can continue to inhabit the forum without feeling restricted?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on June 08, 2012, 03:05:20 pm
I say go for it, Cyanide.  This guy seems to be nothing more than a harmless idiot,  so he'd make a good test case for what you're trying to do.  It's not like he'd cause any real trouble if he fell back into his routine.  Trying out a more diplomatic approach in this instance wouldn't do any harm to anyone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 09, 2012, 06:19:32 pm
How often do we handle anything besides harmless fools?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 10, 2012, 12:04:35 am
About once a year.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on June 12, 2012, 12:57:57 pm
I'm considering banning Segatron (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=71858). He's been constantly making bad posts and derailing almost every thread he posts in. I sent him a PM warning him. I'm tired of giving him chances.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 12, 2012, 01:06:11 pm
Did you try talking to him diplomatically instead of warning him or including warnings in your diplomatic tactic?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on June 12, 2012, 01:11:02 pm
Yes. And I'm taking to him again via PM as we speak.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 12, 2012, 01:40:23 pm
Consider the change we agreed to make when considering banning someone, I would say there's no grounds to even consider banning him.

Think about all the other people who post like Segatron. Even the act of GBK saluting your for posting that you would ban Segatron is ironic because GBK essentially does the same thing as Segatron.

But that's just considering the change we agreed on -- not taking the easy way out and banning someone when nothing huge is as stake.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on June 12, 2012, 01:43:32 pm
"post less" is a very reasonable advice when people are shitposting all around, and yes ignoring moderators' (reasonable) orders can still result in a ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on June 12, 2012, 01:47:14 pm
That's what I told him. I told him to slow down on the posts, and that he didn't have to always answer to everything everyone posted, and to think seriously before posting. Now I'm giving him some advice because of the threads he wanted to make in the fighting game section.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 12, 2012, 03:54:57 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=soreloser123123

HJK
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on June 12, 2012, 03:55:27 pm
Yep.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on June 12, 2012, 04:23:33 pm
I talked to Iced about it, and I banned his alternate account for merging with the main one later.

Who thinks he should be permabanned? After all he got banned before apparently and he used this alternate one just for trolling.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 12, 2012, 04:54:45 pm
Wouldn't make a difference. He doesn't post often and he's so obvious and easy to figure out it's not even funny.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on June 12, 2012, 05:10:34 pm
didn't the stuff he was banned for happen half a year ago or something?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 12, 2012, 10:17:47 pm
he wasnt even banned, he just keeps re registering with different names and attempting to "TROLL" people or annoy spriters
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2012, 10:21:32 pm
he wasnt even banned, he just keeps re registering with different names and attempting to "TROLL" people or annoy spriters
Wow. He's not.

How weird. o_O
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 12, 2012, 10:26:45 pm
It's much harder to troll if people recognise your account. Reregistering is a good way round it to get a few jollies.

Ooh, got a reply to my PM to raj. He says "No Comment" I have no compunction about posting this here because no comment is useless in every sense of the word.

He can read as much as he likes, but if we get to the point where his only desire is to spam we'll work something out. He can't register new accounts at this point so he's stuck with his current one, that may be deterrent enough.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on June 13, 2012, 03:46:27 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=141951.0

Apparently he can't access his old account...?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on June 13, 2012, 04:41:33 pm
Scratch that. I say we just get rid of all his accounts. He's just here to make us waste our time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2012, 04:56:16 pm
Scratch that. I say we just get rid of all his accounts. He's just here to make us waste our time.
I don't see any problem with keeping him around.

And if he's really trying to troll, he's doing a shitty job at it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 13, 2012, 05:14:01 pm
As long as nobody falls for that debate about the meaning of life, then it'll be as if he never existed.

If no one wastes time arguing with him, then we don't have to take any action against him and he'll just be talking to the wall. When he starts going into mugen sections and derailing other developmental topics, then we'll have a problem.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 13, 2012, 10:25:14 pm
hjk is not raj is he? Apparently my last post has given that impression?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 22, 2012, 07:59:24 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=troller12
    AnimeSinCensuraHD1@hotmail.com
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=61241
    Manuel.is.back.08@hotmail.com
i just banned this guy permanently for spamming all boards, I have to leave soon so you guys will have to clean it up discuss it and etc, i just did it so eh would stop spamming.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 22, 2012, 08:32:07 am
And by "you guys" you mean me. >:[

God that took forever
I get overtime for this right?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 22, 2012, 09:39:54 am
True responded to "stop being a dick" previously, he hasn't been round much and his english is terrible (has he been in the international boards?)

The other account, certainly, it's obviously just been used for spam, True's "official" account we may want to reduce the ban. It's not entirely first offence, but at this point we can't call it permaban. 3 months? 3 weeks is a slap, but he's been round for a while and multi-spam is worth more than a slap.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 22, 2012, 09:44:49 am
Permanent. IMO. Don't agree that we should go easy on a guy who literally spammed the forum in a way that was meant to be malicious.

Also yes, thank you Jmorph. Woulda helped you out but I was asleep at the time. :(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on June 22, 2012, 10:34:37 am
And by "you guys" you mean me. >:[

God that took forever
I get overtime for this right?

You're the best! Have a Super Star, button making guy :)[avatar]//mugenguild.com/~valodim/twi/happydance.png[/avatar]

and don't tell Bia I gave you one of those!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on June 22, 2012, 11:26:39 am
It's more along the lines of trying not to use permaban for everything.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 22, 2012, 12:45:05 pm
I agree with reevaluating overuse of permabans on this forum in favor of warnings and short/long term bans, if permanent bans ARE being issued too often, but if there's ever a case for permanently banning someone it's for intentionally 'attacking' the forum. It doesn't look like True wants to be a normal forum user anymore anyway.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 22, 2012, 01:01:26 pm
And by "you guys" you mean me. >:[

God that took forever
I get overtime for this right?

Trick:

User profile > show posts > remove

Repeat [remove] as needed.



Also, we always have people that go crazy for no apparent reason. Let's just be thankful that this was just a user turning into a spammer.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 22, 2012, 01:31:16 pm
note: his files were not what he was claiming they would be, he was essentially begging for attention repeatedly, far as im concerned he is a huge wanker, look at those emails, obviously a wanker.

So, he made a wussy whiny thread begging for attnetion threatening to release a private beta if he wouldnt be given it, then tried to play games while still going to "RELEASE IT OHNO PLEASE DOINT etc" , then when no one gave a fuck that he was releasing the supposed beta, he started spamming it and made a new account to try to spam it more.

Babby first troll. I dont think anything is lost in giving him a good kick in the arse, he obviously has no respect for people here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on June 22, 2012, 02:46:18 pm
Yeah, permabanning is probably the best course of action here.  He was being a spamming, attention-whoring little twerp and shitting up the whole forum, and chances are he'd be doing it again if he was ever allowed back.

I'm all for avoiding permanent bans in favor of less severe methods where we can, but that doesn't mean we should hesitate to do it in cases where the user clearly deserves it, such as this one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 22, 2012, 06:42:13 pm
You're the best! Have a Super Star, button making guy :)

and don't tell Bia I gave you one of those!
:blush:

Trick:

User profile > show posts > remove

Repeat [remove] as needed.
That's actually what I did. It just took so long because there were so many of them. Like, 3 pages of post history.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 01, 2012, 05:58:44 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=142501.msg1597513#msg1597513
keep an eye on this thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on July 01, 2012, 08:04:37 pm
https://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=Jape

he's doing a "get banned fast" contest or I dunno...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 01, 2012, 08:10:15 pm
Seems like it's on purpose.

Quote
that was my favorite place 2 post. but all the moders and admin got mad @ mee. remembr the nekosage dramam?? i was ther. i was there 4 it al. and i alwys thoght she was qtpie

He's always been like that too, look at his posts before he came back after two years.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 01, 2012, 08:19:42 pm
If we didn't have the new "don't perma-ban before discussing policy," I would have banned him forever already.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 01, 2012, 09:23:20 pm
https://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=Jape

he's doing a "get banned fast" contest or I dunno...

jape is jape. he's a friend and he mostly posts to troll.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on July 01, 2012, 09:30:07 pm
I'm pretty sure he's also not very bright.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 02, 2012, 06:39:52 am
If we didn't have the new "don't perma-ban before discussing policy," I would have banned him forever already.
That seems like jumping the gun a bit.

Did anyone send him a PM???
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 02, 2012, 08:04:26 pm
Do you honestly think that's going to work?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 02, 2012, 08:05:45 pm
I dunno, but it can't hurt.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on July 02, 2012, 08:08:29 pm
*shrug* he seems to have stopped
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 02, 2012, 08:19:36 pm
i visit the same chat as him. he was just trolling

anything else of note today
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 02, 2012, 08:24:34 pm
Just?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 02, 2012, 08:36:55 pm
he was being disruptive and will receive a stern talking-to.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 02, 2012, 08:46:26 pm
i visit the same chat as him. he was just trolling

anything else of note today

Yeah I figged but that doesn't make it any better. I don't know why anyone would think "I was just trolling" is a good excuse for posting like that.

Reminds me of "I'm not Peter, I was just trying to log into his account out of boredom". That doesn't make things better for you, tck!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on July 02, 2012, 08:48:25 pm
both of those cases were being mildly irritating at best, it's not like they disrupted anything. it's just one of these things.. :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 02, 2012, 08:54:45 pm
Quote
Imagine if right now there were a group of you, like say 5-10 people, posting exactly what you're posting, and as often as you've been posting it today. Can't you see how quickly this forum would turn to nothing but garbage posts of "hwy gyuys i think i we shuld all maky mugn gamse"?

This is why it's a bad thing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 04, 2012, 11:04:24 am
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=142566.0 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=142566.0)

Shouldn't the links in this thread be removed? Don't want anyone to fall into a pyramid scheme from a link they clicked on this forum.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on July 04, 2012, 11:06:53 am
you're probably right. edited 'em out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 04, 2012, 03:28:15 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=Goku6

I didn't want to do it, I wanted to help him, but he just wouldn't listen. He was spamming the same question all over the board and not stopping. I moved a few of his threads, had to merge a couple and delete a couple; ALL of them were about the SAME thing. He sent personal messages about the same question even though he was getting the help in his multiple threads. He kept sending personal messages and sent them to at least two people. He posted in completely unrelated topics to ask people to reply to his question. He ignored the help he was getting and just wouldn't stop spamming the "yellow spark" question.

Cyanide suggested a slap on the wrist. So I banned him for three days. Check his post history if you want an example of what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 04, 2012, 09:56:29 pm
I agree with that. If when he comes back he's still the same, I would suggest banning him for a few years. Give him some time to mature and...I don't know, ripen?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 04, 2012, 10:19:09 pm
I would have done that too when i received that PM this morning, obviously other people received it too. So yes, this would have happened. If i do anything the ban message is going to link to Cybasters last post in that thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 05, 2012, 12:20:14 am
I think people are getting pretty irritated with GBK lately (at the very least I am), I'm concerned it's gonna boil over.

here are a few threads demonstrating this
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=142606.0
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=96176.msg1599447#msg1599447
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=142566.msg1599324#msg1599324
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=142596.msg1599662#msg1599662
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 05, 2012, 02:55:13 am
Why are you getting irritated?

:bow:

Edit to add:  I'm being serious by the way, what is it about  GBKnumbers that has you (and other people) irritated?  I honestly dont understand.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 06, 2012, 02:54:41 pm
Sigh.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=80014

Check post history.

Will probably edit this post with a ban if I don't get a reply to my personal message or if the reply to my personal message is noncompliant

Modification:
Banned him for a week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 06, 2012, 03:08:12 pm
deserves nothing less *crosses arms*
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 06, 2012, 03:12:12 pm
Okay. Now he should be perma-banned. I kinda already did it inadvertently by IP banning his alternate account, but that is so he can't keep registering alternate accounts. If anyone wants to further discuss this guy's usage of the forum, then please go ahead.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=142674.msg1600909#new

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;u=80024
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 06, 2012, 09:48:32 pm
People like that make me wish that it was possible to punch people through the internet.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 11, 2012, 02:54:54 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=142761.0

He's giving me a brain tumor and I'm pretty sure he's giving Cyanide and everyone else brain tumors, too. He's already been banned once.

Tell me why he should be able to continue to post in the help section or at all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 11, 2012, 05:22:39 pm
He is becoming increasingly annoying.  Honestly, though?  Judging from his post history I get the impression that he's just a little kid who doesn't know any better.  I'd peg him at 8 or 9, maybe 10 years old tops.  Definitely too young to be hanging around here, at any rate.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 11, 2012, 07:42:04 pm
I'd peg him at 8 or 9, maybe 10 years old tops.  Definitely too young to be hanging around here, at any rate.
He is 24 years old. :haw:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 12, 2012, 01:51:43 am
Yeah, nobody believes that. I reckon, month ban, and use a link to a tutorial in the message he gets.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 12, 2012, 10:00:57 am
I think I convinced him to stop. Let's see what happens next.



Most of the people in the following (now cleaned) thread should be ashamed of themselves, especially Darkflare. What disgusting posts.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=142847.0
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 12, 2012, 10:23:40 am
Agreed actually. I do not understand. If you feel something is going to be bad, and you're not going to download it for that reason. Don't post? If you know he doesnt' take feedback, why bother at all? You posting gives the thread (and the person) far more attention than it deserves.

Ignore it, it'll drop off the page faster.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 12, 2012, 10:45:02 am
Darkflare was already on a warning before for pulling that behaviour often, ban him for a couple days over it, please.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 12, 2012, 10:46:44 am

Ignore it, it'll drop off the page faster.

Words to live by.   In fact that should be part of the "rules". 

:bow:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 12, 2012, 12:29:01 pm
You want to REQUIRE that people ignore others? That's just silly. =p

But seriously, I don't know what made Darkflare think that he can be a HUGE bully and tell people what releases they are allowed to post. And even more than that, he claimed that his distorted view is the view of EVERYONE who uses this forum; that's the most disgusting part.



Darkflare was already on a warning before for pulling that behaviour often, ban him for a couple days over it, please.
Done.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 12, 2012, 03:40:24 pm
What is his problem anyway? Why does he keep being such a douche?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 12, 2012, 07:30:18 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=elecybte

Isn't there a rule about not using the same name as Elecbyte, MUGEN, KFM, etc.?

I remember reading that somewhere.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 12, 2012, 07:35:43 pm
KFM,
:mmhmm:

but yeah, i remember that too
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 12, 2012, 07:50:33 pm
KFM,
:mmhmm:

but yeah, i remember that too
Ah yes here it is. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=65046.0)
And it was actually related to KFM too!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 13, 2012, 12:39:11 am
Good thing he spelt it wrong then  ;P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 13, 2012, 12:49:28 am
Good thing he spelt it wrong then  ;P
I know it's spelled wrong, but it's so close that it is still confusing to people who might mistake that user for the real Elecbyte.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 15, 2012, 09:14:32 pm
I would deal with this but you all are the ones who dealt with the eye sore fonts last time.

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=142835.msg1606269#msg1606269 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=142835.msg1606269#msg1606269)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on July 16, 2012, 03:20:15 am
ugh, this sure catches on fast... :blank:

we should probably just tell people not use colored fonts as a gimmick in general, those are a lot more annoying (and in a wider variety and more suitable for debate) than different fonts. opinions?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 16, 2012, 03:33:26 am
i don't really care what font they use, or if they bold/italic/underline it

Like this, don't give a shit

But colours that you can't read are horrible. Best solution for those i think is we simply filter them out

This one
this one
this one
i thought we did this one already
maybe, can't remember what i looks like


Uhh, yeah, kill beige.

lololol this is beige and it's almost as hard to read as white.

Edit: Each time i edit highlight spawns itself again... and i can't do filtering any more. I assume that is for a reason
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 16, 2012, 03:37:31 am
Has anything positive come from having customizable fonts? What's the point if the only thing it's good for is abusing it to be annoying?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 16, 2012, 03:40:27 am
Some people see it as part of their persona. Like blue font dude. TBH, i have no issue with different fonts, or even when they use different colours. When it becomes a problem with readability is where i draw the line. And removing those colours would be the best ones to wipe. Possibly leaving white because of highlight.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 20, 2012, 02:24:43 am
Garaliru is emo: (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?action=profile;user=Garaliru)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Posts emo posts without necessity or provocation. Derails threads. Needs professional help.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 20, 2012, 02:29:42 am
Is this really that big of a deal? It seems pretty harmless.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 20, 2012, 02:33:18 am
Nobody said it was a big deal. I'm just bringing it to everyone's attention just in case he gets worse, and from my experience, he is likely to get worse.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 20, 2012, 02:35:07 am
he is likely to get worse.
Aw, don't be so pessimistic.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 20, 2012, 02:56:54 am
Look at yourself for an example. Look how bad you've gotten.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 20, 2012, 02:58:55 am
Look at yourself for an example. Look how bad you've gotten.
:ssj:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on July 20, 2012, 10:15:59 pm
.......are you editing people's profiles to ponies? What's up with that?[avatar]//mugenguild.com/~valodim/twi/>_>.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 20, 2012, 10:33:01 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava2.png[/avatar]I was just about to ask who was doing that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 20, 2012, 10:35:00 pm
.......are you editing people's profiles to ponies? What's up with that?
Oh it was just a harmless joke that me and Iced came up with after people were complaining about Navana's Princess Peach pony.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 20, 2012, 10:37:52 pm
Iced come up with? D: I just gave you the pones, you liar liar.


I have however done that before when i thought it was funny. I am a bad example to the children.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 20, 2012, 10:40:45 pm
I am a bad example to the children.

I don't know about that, seems childish enough to me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 20, 2012, 10:40:56 pm
[avatar]http://mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/img/mlfw1900-132474651992.png[/avatar]You seem to be screwing around with people's profiles quite a bit as of late, Morph-Man.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 20, 2012, 10:47:16 pm
Huh, I don't really remember doing it recently besides messing with Iced, but he doesn't count.

oh well I guess I'll avoid it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on July 20, 2012, 11:20:34 pm
Wussy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 21, 2012, 12:44:29 am
Your choices for messing with profiles are to remove offensive avatars or signatures. Or oversized signatures. Other than that you don't fuck with a users profile unless asked.

Cursing them is not the same, that's locking them into one profile, useful if they keep using huge sigs.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 21, 2012, 12:48:49 am
One time I changed Iced's avatar to this:

(http://caddie.smeenet.org/badmriced.gif)

And his sig to this:

(http://caddie.smeenet.org/icedandminiices.gif)

That was a fun day. Oh come on, let us have fun sometimes!

Edit: Oh oh, I forgot. I changed his name to "Bad Mr. Icey" too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 21, 2012, 12:58:49 am
One time I changed Iced's avatar to this:

(http://caddie.smeenet.org/badmriced.gif)

And his sig to this:

(http://caddie.smeenet.org/icedandminiices.gif)

That was a fun day. Oh come on, let us have fun sometimes!

Edit: Oh oh, I forgot. I changed his name to "Bad Mr. Icey" too.

Well thats funny

And it was Iced, who can do stuff back to you.  Changing profiles of someone who can't change yours just to mess with them is different.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 21, 2012, 03:35:13 am
dont change profiles without consent. i thought yall knew better :(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 21, 2012, 11:04:15 am
Yeah. That's power abuse. Don't make it something that's okay.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 21, 2012, 09:20:49 pm
Has everyone chimed in yet about how bad it is?

Also, it's funny, I never saw a response like this whenever Iced did something similar.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 21, 2012, 10:03:50 pm
I only remember him doing it to people who were changing their avatars to be insulting after a ban. Even if it was for other petty, unjustified reasons, that doesn't excuse it now and it didn't excuse it then.

All that really matters is that we're saying something about it now, before it gets out of hand and everyone becomes desensitized to it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 21, 2012, 11:34:57 pm
Feel free to give Iced shit if he does it to anyone who's not a mod without a really sensible justification. Like "they asked me to"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 22, 2012, 01:58:37 am
I only remember him doing it to people who were changing their avatars to be insulting after a ban. Even if it was for other petty, unjustified reasons, that doesn't excuse it now and it didn't excuse it then.
He did similar things involving changing pony haters' avatars to pony images.

All that really matters is that we're saying something about it now, before it gets out of hand and everyone becomes desensitized to it.
That had already been said several times already before you posted. There was no need for either your post or c00's post besides being another "BAD JMORPHMAN BAD" post.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 22, 2012, 02:03:36 am
Jmorphman stop being a shit head!!
"edits jmorphman avatar"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on July 22, 2012, 03:31:35 am
Ugh. Dissecting this a lot more than we need to here, but, well, you asked implied.

Regarding Iced doing the same thing, to me those instances always looked like part of an ongoing dialogue, where people were doing something more or less stupid or joking around, and Iced changed their profiles and then went "lol changed ur profile" right away in the relevant thread so people knew what was going on and could react to it. I might have seen that wrong or it might have been coincidence rather than correlation or something, but that's why I never called Iced out on it.

In your case, the editing happened 12 hours later at a time when GBK had already posted more stuff, wasn't even online anymore and the relevant post was at least one page back in the random topic already, so there was no connection. What caught my attention was that GBK posted something about his avatar in the time inbetween (https://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=62298.msg1609510#msg1609510) so I knew there was a gap of time there, but I couldn't find any obvious (to me) reason for it, and I had to do some log tracing to find out who actually did it.

Editing profiles can be tolerable when used (very) rarely and when the mod is upfront about it giving a direct opportunity to react, or if the other guy can retaliate obviously. Neither was the case here. Also, you probably just took some of the heat from Iced who probably would have gotten a similar reaction next time.

Nothing about this is personal, GBK took it well, and the point would have come up eventually one way or another - you were just in the unfortunate position to be the one to trigger it.

Hope that clears it up? Anyone disagreeing with me here?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 22, 2012, 10:58:34 am
I don't think it should be done for any sort of humor, even rarely with an upfront contention. Consent is the only exception; like when Titiln asked people if they wanted a new avatar or something. Otherwise, profile editing should be done for over-sized images, illegal stuff, and/or generally offensive or unacceptable content like hardcore porn and gore.

All that really matters is that we're saying something about it now, before it gets out of hand and everyone becomes desensitized to it.
That had already been said several times already before you posted. There was no need for either your post or c00's post besides being another "BAD JMORPHMAN BAD" post.
Yes there was a need for us to post. We wanted to voice our opinions on the matter. No one is out to get you. Don't be so defensive about this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 23, 2012, 10:25:56 am
It's all good, I was just feeling kind of like this lady:

pop culture reference yes
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 23, 2012, 02:28:32 pm
Most of the times when i do it, its as part of the dialogue, yes, like when someone is going "god i hate bieber" i edit it, tell them about it and they go like "oh you silly cunt" and it blows over fast. Djouls and gbk took it as jokes but if you pull that off you are better off just saying it right away or people might just be confused.

This is in no way a big deal and its just making silly stuff to someone avatar, there was a point where i drew moustaches on them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 23, 2012, 10:26:39 pm
You still need to stop that. Profiles should really be inviolate unless edits are requested, ala the titiln topics, or if the profile is breaking the rules/forum.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 23, 2012, 10:33:43 pm
oh well I guess I'll avoid it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 24, 2012, 12:13:21 am
You still need to stop that. Profiles should really be inviolate unless edits are requested, ala the titiln topics, or if the profile is breaking the rules/forum.
havent done it for a while. ^^
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 24, 2012, 09:03:46 pm
Please don't

Bronies have infected everything else already
orochi gill is ordering people not to do mugen stuff that he doesnt like, as a continued warning, this is something that no one should EVER do. You cant and shouldnt tell people NOT to do mugen stuff, irregardless of what it is.
I dont care if furries raped your dad or if pikachus manhandled your young boyish parts or even if Karin called you a loser and refused to date you, do not tell people not to do stuff, you are just turning newbies with the potential to learn interesting stuff by working on what they ENJOY , away.
Dont be a shithead.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2012, 09:13:51 pm
Oh my goodness people are talking about making things I don't like, I better go and be a giant douchebag!!!

/me faints dead away
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on July 24, 2012, 11:00:48 pm
I already talked to Karin Iced and she says she willing to talk it out. Good luck.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 26, 2012, 12:53:23 am
OK so this weird thing is going on in the aution alert thread and I don't really understand what's going on. (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=62305.msg1612585#msg1612585)

So the first guy, gamerx, definitely seems to be selling the moojins (at the very least, he previously spammed a link to the site of someone who was selling in various threads here) (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=62305.msg1500696#msg1500696)

however, the guy gamerx is accusing also seems to be dealing in some shady activity
Quote
The game engines themselves are free and so are the sprites because of them being copyrighted material. However if you wish for Xtreme Homebrew to create a custom game for you there is a small hourly donation of $9.99 and that is specifically for the time spent and the professional creation of your custom game. You pay for the work and time and nothing more and if you wish when you donate for a custom game you may upload it to the sites server or if requested I will upload to share with other members.

Wow. If he's suggesting what I THINK he's suggesting (your own "custom" compilation), whoever made this site is one of the biggest cock-suckers on the internet.

so uh... I dunno. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 26, 2012, 10:06:38 am
I got a personal message from someone too. What do they want us to do, ban him from the internet?



And posting the dude's address? Are we supposed to build a task force and debouch to arrest Hombrewking?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 27, 2012, 06:27:04 am
Unless Homebrew shows that he actually makes original content, both homebrew and gamerx should probably be banned and have all those links to websites removed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 27, 2012, 06:42:08 am
I don't like having that guy's address being displayed for everyone to see. But maybe it's too late to remove it now? :S

edit: it seems they've posted each others addresses on elecbyte's forums, and they got those addresses from a Google wallet recipt or something. So... maybe it's not a problem. :S :S :S
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 27, 2012, 06:47:51 am
It's bad precedent, don't want people posting eachother personal information all over the forum. They should be removed now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 27, 2012, 06:56:35 am
OK, so: ban gamerx right now, wait to see if HomebrewKing can prove his innocence and if not, ban. Yes yes?

EDIT: ok I banned gamerx
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 27, 2012, 08:13:49 am
Short ban right? For the posting of the personal address? Unless they continue to push/sell their agenda here, they can live without being banned.

We can't enforce it. Tell them if they get sued that's their problem and we're not helping.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 27, 2012, 08:15:49 am
They both are selling Mugen, and it seems like the only reason they came here was to fight with each other about this. Why exactly do you want to keep people like that around?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 27, 2012, 08:18:17 am
Short ban right?
I had it on permaban for the reasons Caddie said above. But I dunno, maybe it's too much?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 27, 2012, 08:24:45 am
Logically they should leave. And no i don't want to keep them around. I want to stick to my guns on the whole less permabanning.

If they STOP fighting and potentially learn how the community works this little canker will stop existing in the background. They can't really do that if we piss them both off by slapping them with a ban.

In any case, we can't actually stop them selling it. We can prevent them selling it here (and they're not doing that anyway) but we can't stop them selling it outside this forum so an attempt to re-educate should be made before saying fuck it and hurling them into the nether.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 27, 2012, 11:30:01 am
Short ban right? For the posting of the personal address? Unless they continue to push/sell their agenda here, they can live without being banned.

We can't enforce it. Tell them if they get sued that's their problem and we're not helping.

No one should ever be allowed to post someone else's PI (unless that someone has already made it available for anyone and everyone to see and that can be a gray area), especially if they are dragging a feud from another forum.  that just opens a whole can of rotten worms that none of you want to deal with.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 27, 2012, 11:42:32 am
See previous post about less permabans. I am in no way justifying the posting of personal info. With the advent of facebook that is much less of a "thing" than it was.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 27, 2012, 11:51:24 am
I agree about the less permabans, obviously since I've been arguing that with anyone and everyone.  These personal info feuds however, have a way of spilling out to include family members, places of employment, harassing phone calls and all kinds of ugly stuff.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on July 27, 2012, 11:54:24 am
Edit post to delete personal details: warn users, in this case that we're not fixing their bullshit feud. They can either stay and learn how mugen works, or continue in their own forums without dragging us into it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 27, 2012, 11:57:15 am
Alright, alright, I'll drop my support of permabanning them...but if they keep it up, don't "learn how mugen works", and end up just being a total waste of time, I get to rub it in your face. Oh and you have to give me another trophy. Deal?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 27, 2012, 09:28:46 pm
OK, so how long should gamerx's ban be then?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on July 27, 2012, 09:29:23 pm
40 days and 40 nights.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 27, 2012, 09:45:19 pm
A month is probably all that's needed, because I don't see him coming back afterward anyway.  It's looking like he and this homebrew guy only came here to tattle on each other, so once he sees he's been banned over it he'll likely just find some other forum to go and kvetch to.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on August 20, 2012, 06:54:59 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/dammit-duo-dude-i039m-gonna-miss-you-man-59498
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/douglass-77491
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=46376
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=10607
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/len1231234-79801

All of HJK's accounts the last one being the current one. I would just ban all of them straight out imo, just leaving this here so you guys are aware and Iced can merge these later.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 20, 2012, 09:45:58 pm
done
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on August 21, 2012, 11:32:38 am
Did anyone send a PM to goku6 about his stubborn questions?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 21, 2012, 08:07:28 pm
I sent him personal messages and he responded with obliviousness and more endless questions. He was banned once by me. I'm not sure if Cyanide banned him or messaged him.

If he's not a naive 7-year-old, then I don't know what's wrong with him. He's been told to stop. He keeps deleting his posts and reposting them to bump his threads. The solution is to ignore his questions and tell him to read the docs.

Looks like he's annoying Cyanide.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 21, 2012, 10:19:43 pm
I need to create a test account. I'm going to block him out of those forums. Don't know if my new group will work right yet so test account is required.

I thought we had one but cannot remember it's username or password. New group was simple enough to create, it's just if i got the permissions etc right for it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 28, 2012, 12:56:43 am
soft banned gbk from the cosplay thread, he was doing the "putting down" thing again. it will last a month, this is a new experiment. Talked it over with caddie before doing it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on August 28, 2012, 01:20:10 am
(http://i.imgur.com/5ZyiF.gif)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 28, 2012, 09:49:23 am
What is this soft ban of which you speak?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 28, 2012, 03:34:36 pm
I didnt cut him out of the threads(which is possible via groups and permissions )  , so he can read them and etc, but told him not to post there for a set period of time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on August 29, 2012, 04:45:43 am
So, verbally instructed then.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 29, 2012, 05:04:54 am
Pretty much, yeah.

Unfortunatly he's either pretending not to understand the verbally banned part, or is just being really dumb.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 29, 2012, 06:19:28 pm
Welp GBK has been ignoring his soft ban. (either intentionally ignoring and pretending not to understand what a soft ban means, or because he's really that dumb and does not understand it after having it explained to him at least thrice)
So he was left free to post, and he decided to mock the various pony cosplays by posting his own, just in case everyone wasn't aware that he's trying to stick it to us mods. I spoke with Iced on Gchat and he agrees with banning him. Titiln also thought the same in the cosplay thread:
gbk shouldn't be posting here. also he should be banned for blatant disregard of an administrator's orders. also because he's a fucking idiot and a disgrace to damien sandow who is supposed to be intelligent

so yeah unless anyone objects I'm gonna ban him in a shortly

      Posted: August 29, 2012, 07:14:01 pm
it's done, 6 months seems fair

YOU'RE WELCOME
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on August 30, 2012, 11:28:34 am
bye *waves hand*
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 30, 2012, 12:04:06 pm
I wasnt really around, six months sounds huge, but i honestly havent read well what he was posting after I posted.
I will still be sortof busy during the next couple days so... Behave people!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 30, 2012, 03:10:13 pm
GOH suggested it, not me!

YOU CAN'T PIN THIS ON ME
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 31, 2012, 12:58:30 am
He tried to be a martyr to prove Iced was picking on him. He got banned to prove a point and he failed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 31, 2012, 02:18:23 am
I reread the whole thing and i dont get what he was trying to do.
I said several times what I meant by that, he kept claiming to not understand it even when others explained, and then went on posting. People called his attention again and he started going "cry more". What was even the point?

I give up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 01, 2012, 02:37:50 pm
I read this whole thing, didn't agree with it because guess what?  I thought there was some way thru admin voodoo (aka "Soft Ban") to block a person from one thread.  And since there are still little bugs and glitches being reported, I honestly didn't see anything wrong with  GBK testing it and questioning it.  It looks to me like a lack of clear communication and rather than say fuzzy words like "soft ban" , people should be told "do not post in this thread for X days or you will be banned from the forum."  Thats clear and no one can mistake it to mean something else. 

I wrote up a post then after preview, decided to skip it because it sounded bitchy and mean.  Now 2 days later, I reread it all again and I still believe there was a lack of clear communication and GBK didn't understand "soft ban" any better than I did and should have his ban reduced .

I also question the wisdom of playing thought police and warning/banning people for giving an opinion that they believe something is "awful" if it's not directed at another person here (ie: your work is awful, your hair looks awful, your butt looks big in those jeans, and so on).

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on September 01, 2012, 02:42:29 pm
II honestly didn't see anything wrong with  GBK testing it and questioning it.

While I'm not entirely disagreeing with you here: He wasn't testing or questioning it, he was posting fanart like nothing happened.[avatar]//mugenguild.com/~valodim/twi/sceptical.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 01, 2012, 02:53:17 pm
I believe he posted in the cosplay thread to test if he was "soft banned" via admin voodoo.  Then when he was able to post, I believe he then reported it at a bug.  He knew he should be banned from posting in that thread, but he didn't understand that he was ASKED not to post there as opposed to being locked out by some kind of member group permissions.  Then when everyone turned on him (including a staff person calling him a massive retard) he explained his confusion.   That was the time to make it clear what "soft ban" meant. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 01, 2012, 03:26:28 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordimpatient.png[/avatar]If it was anybody else, I'd probably agree with you MissB.  But this is GBK we're talking about.  I know he's smart enough to know exactly what it meant, and he willfully ignored it because his ego gets off on trying to stick it to Iced.  He knew exactly what he was doing, he just did it anyway because "Muhuhahaha I'm GBK the great and fuck you lowly moderators."
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 01, 2012, 03:35:23 pm
Are you saying GBK is smarter than me? 

I dont think he willfully ignored it, I DO think he couldnt wait to post about it to poke at Iced (as in, I'm supposed to be locked out of this thread, but Iced messed it up and I can still post there... Muhuhahahaha I am GBK the great).  But I honestly dont believe he clearly understood what "soft ban" means in this case.  There is a HUGE personality conflict between a lot of people on staff and GBK and I think that makes everyone involved more reactionary.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 01, 2012, 03:45:03 pm
So I guess that when he was explained again and started making posts mocking mine and telling people to cry more, he was just stll being confused. In the same way that someone throwing trash at your garden is confused when you tell them you forbid them to do that and keeps doing it and going "looks like i still can do it! youmust have done something wrong!" , you explain to them again that you are asking them not to do it  and they repeat it "here have some more trash!OOPS. Why dont you cry more?"

I already said i believe he was banned for too long, but you are being naive if you think that even after being explained several times, in several threads, his mocking posts were one of confusion, specially the one where he was trying to replicate the exact same thing he was mocking when he was warned and the one where he told jmorphman to cry more.

The guy is extremely abrasive, trying to mock people at the drop of a hat, he had  been warned before about trying to push down people from posting whatever he doesnt like in the same thread. Him posting mocking posts after being told not to and even after people told him he wasnt banned mechanically just asked not to post, werent some kind of confusion he was just trying to prove that no one tells him what to do.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 01, 2012, 04:03:13 pm
I don't agree.  First of all why was he banned for stating his opinion that he thought a cosplay costume was terrible?  I just went back through his post history and I don't see all of the mocking posts you are saying he made after you "soft banned" him, He stated what he thought you meant by "soft ban" and it was the same thing I thought. Yes he told jmorphman to cry more (and that was uncalled for, but so was another staff member calling him a massive retard) but as I stated before there is a personality conflict there and I believe it's causing bias.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 01, 2012, 04:49:00 pm
The one where he posted the same thing he was mocking?
If you have no context at all you can sum it up as being "someone said his opinion and others got mad at them!" but that is the way you can sum up any internet arguments. Without the context of what is going on you can always make any discussion look inconsequential.
Tempest also didnt like whatever i was posting but that wasnt a thing because CONTEXT (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/nsfw-cosplay-can-be-hot-or-not-96176.2720.html).

I guess you want a time line?


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=> tries to constantly push people not to post in that thread, going as far as going "DEER DEER!" whenever someone posts an asian person
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=>people start complaining
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=> I test him, it turns out its true
=>claims he needs to prevents people to post things that are bad so he camps it
=> is warned about trying to push people not to post,
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=> eventually is warned again, throws a shitfest and is banned for weeks over it
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=> comes back already mocking it
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=> does it again, mocks post X
=> it isnt serious so he is just asked to not post in the thread for a month ( i wanted to discourage him doing the crap he got banned over before )
=> mocks that it didnt work
=> is explained the situation , that he isnt supposed to post
=> posts again (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1629505), decides to make his own version of post X and mock some more (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/nsfw-cosplay-can-be-hot-or-not-96176.msg1629612.html#msg1629612)
=> people point out again that he isnt supposed to post
=> tells them to go cry to someone
 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1629614)

yeah that sounds like someone that is being persecuted unjustly, we should make him a tribute thread or something. 

Like I said, I dont agree with the ban duration, but he was asking to be banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 01, 2012, 07:49:07 pm
Yes he told jmorphman to cry more (and that was uncalled for, but so was another staff member calling him a massive retard)
I made no such post. I never called him a massive retard, all I did was explain to him what was going on (again) so there could be no possible confusion. (even though he clearly had already understood what was going on at that point and was just playing dumb)

I'm not really sure how that is calling him a massive retard.

Anyways, yeah, he's done this kind of thing constantly, mocking other people's cosplay pictures if they didn't meet his standard, and then posting his own again and again and again to try and "clear out" the bad stuff, as it were. And that's really unfair for everyone else. So we asked him to stop, and he stopped blatantly doing it. But it was clearly still an issue that we were watching to see if it got out of hand again. And to no one's surprise, it did.

And who can blame him, how dare people invade HIS cosplay with their filthy pictures of things they like, it's totally unfair.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 01, 2012, 08:10:10 pm
Read  what I said again.  I didn't  say you called him anything.  I said his telling you to cry more was uncalled for.

I also think this whole thing was pretty much a pissing match between people who don't like each other.  It happens, I just don't happen to agree with the way everything was handled.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on September 01, 2012, 10:16:48 pm
Yes he told jmorphman to cry more (and that was uncalled for, but so was another staff member calling him a massive retard) but as I stated before there is a personality conflict there and I believe it's causing bias.
That was me. I called him a massive retard. Because his post was really stupid.

Yes! It was very dumb, because Iced and also nobody else in the world is able to translate 2 sentences from german into english with the google translator or any other translating application. And those 2 sentences were such complicated that nobody can see what they mean without even one word of german knowledge, right?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 01, 2012, 10:21:59 pm
Yeah I know it was you and maybe his post was really stupid, but I don't think name calling in that section is really helpful to the situation
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on September 01, 2012, 10:23:53 pm
He called Byakko dumb before I called him a massive retard. But ok, I'll save my insults for other sections.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 02, 2012, 04:03:56 am
I thought the soft ban was a software feature at first, too. That's why I asked what was meant by it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 02, 2012, 04:24:12 am
I don't particularly understand the dislike of GBK, his posts barely ever bother me.

We could trash the cosplay topic if it's making all these people antsy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 02, 2012, 05:07:47 am
It's really only making the one person ansty. And he's gone now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 02, 2012, 05:31:31 am
Well it's actually more than that. If it was just him neither you or Iced would be reacting. And i must assume that as you and Iced are reacting there are users complaining as well. So, how many people are ACTUALLY annoyed, or is it just you and Iced?

Please note that i do not care if he is banned or not. His actions after said instruction are worthy of it. His actions before that instruction i did not see as worthy of said instruction.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 02, 2012, 05:49:19 am
Well yeah of course other people were bothered, but just because one guy is messing up the thread doesn't mean it should be trashed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 12, 2012, 12:33:06 am
while talking to maverik he started going on tangents about people persecuting him and everyone being cunts.



I reactivated his ban before he starts shitting threads since he claimed he wanted to fuck all.

Discuss.


edit: misunderstanding of my part, he said he was going to fuck all the way off. So maybe it wasnt a threat.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 12, 2012, 12:37:24 am
He obviously made no effort to change the way he posts. He is socially inept and has serious issues. Even sociopaths know how to fake manners and the like, so I don't understand why he thought that was a good insult -- he's worse.

Keep him banned forever. That's a done deal.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 12, 2012, 12:39:05 am
Discuss.
bit late for that
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 12, 2012, 12:42:25 am
We already had a deal with Maverik: He doesn't make posts like the ones he's been making recently, and he doesn't get banned anymore. In his last post, he said that doesn't care if he's banned anymore, which means he is disregarding the conditions of the lifting of his ban, which means he should be banned again, and he is banned again.

What is there to discuss?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 12, 2012, 12:49:39 am
there should still be a discussion, i reactivated the ban because last time he was shitting stuff and I aint taking no chances with someone that was already a insult spammer. And no, not because we are "afraid" of his posts, but because our users should not be subjected to them.

There should still be a discussion. So far jmorphman seems against it, rajaa is for it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 12, 2012, 01:29:49 am
If he wants to post again at some future date, I say let him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 12, 2012, 03:28:55 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordugh.png[/avatar]I'm with Rajaa.  Maverik is little more than a swirling mass of undeserved ego and petty insults.  He seems to think he's god's gift to the world, and he can't seem to keep from derailing almost every thread he posts in with pointless arguments about how he thinks he's above everyone else and how many fucks he doesn't give.  He's had enough chances.  A permanent ban is the right way to go.

Good riddance to bad rubbish, as they say.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 12, 2012, 04:06:00 am
Unless a problematic user is spamming the site or something, they deserve a verbal warning and a discussion of their ban before anything happens.

I don't care how odious of a person he is, he deserved a verbal warning and a discussion before being banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 12, 2012, 04:30:04 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordimpatient.png[/avatar]He already had all of that the last time he was banned for this exact same thing, didn't he?  I think it was a little bit before you and I became mods;  he was being a disruptive douche and was warned to knock it off.  He pulled his "I'm too awesome to give a fuck" routine and got himself banned for it.   Then he asked to come back, claiming that he'd changed, and we let him under the condition that he didn't pull that shit again.  And we can see how long that lasted.

At least, that's my understanding of the situation.  Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 12, 2012, 06:07:44 am
That's pretty much what happened.

And I still say he deserved a verbal warning, to be treated the same as every other user, but to be on a tighter lease, as it were.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on September 15, 2012, 01:52:02 am
Wasn't this moron banned before?

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/mlp-fanart-related-what-happens-next-this-image-1-144504.0.html
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 15, 2012, 02:47:50 am
Did someone ban him last time?  I dumped his crap into the shit thread (which I went ahead and did again because jesus FUCK) the last time he did it, but that's all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 15, 2012, 03:19:49 am
He hasn't been banned, at least as far as I can tell from the ban list.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 15, 2012, 08:37:37 am
Pft, the link won't open. Says it's off limits.

Way to not even mention who it is or link to their profile so anyone who didn't see that post can even find out who you're talking about. I mean, really, guys. Tck. I went and found it anyway, but it was a hassle!

http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1636402

This is what you were talking about, right? LordryuTJ and his fat pony thread?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 15, 2012, 09:32:12 am
yeah that guy[avatar]http://i25.tinypic.com/91chi1.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 16, 2012, 09:20:11 pm
That's pretty much what happened.

And I still say he deserved a verbal warning, to be treated the same as every other user, but to be on a tighter lease, as it were.
Someome who is permanently banned and then later accepted back into the forum isn't like every other user. He should've know he was walking on thin ice. Besides, what's up for discussion? We all know he is a terrible person and that if we let him post on the forum he is going to act like a douchebag until he's banned again. Why bother?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 16, 2012, 11:23:13 pm
PeterFoster made another alt account. I banned it. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=80457)

he seriously needs to grow up and stop behaving like a 4 year old
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 21, 2012, 05:00:55 am
mugennut5

So what voices are you going to use for the Naruto game? English or Japanese? If your going to do another poll, I 100% pick English; it is way better than Japanese.

Also, have you released or uploaded some of the chars from the DBZ Allstars game besides Goku?

After being told no by Neocide:

Whatever, English Naruto chars are still greater than Japanese chars. I'll just stick to mugencoder's superior Naruto chars.

He's gone on before about how much he prefers English voices to Japanese voices, but when I told him not to do that and that no one cares who's character he thinks is better than eachother, he told me to mind my own business. So I sent him a pm.

Mind your own business please. No one cares about your opinion either hypocrite.

I most certainly will not!

It's incredibly rude to say someone else works is better than yours, especially over voices samples. I'm asking you not to keep doing this or you'll risk getting moderated. I'm only saying this because it seems like you do it a lot.

Just making the pm public for transparency purposes. :-X
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 21, 2012, 07:25:54 am
Umm how exactly were you being a hypocrite there?

Insane troll logic makes my head hurt.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on September 22, 2012, 05:56:12 pm
Banned Douchebag Zangief for 3 months.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1639276
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 26, 2012, 10:44:17 pm
For the love of. Look i don't want to ban him. He's not doing anything WORTH banning, but he is pissing me off immensely, can i have something, anything that will lock him out of the help sections.

It's almost like he's trolling. He asks a question, never responds to any solutions given then asks a different question only vaguely related. Then asks something so far above what he's previously asked that argh.

"how do i palette"
"how do i super armour"
Those are so far removed from each other in the creation process it's ridiculous. PM'ing does not work, i've tried, i'm sure rajaa has too, the guy is just that oblivious, or trolling.

This is goku6, banning is the wrong response. Someone give me another option.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 26, 2012, 10:49:02 pm
i noticed a section ban on the profiles when i check other people profiles, is that working?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 26, 2012, 10:54:32 pm
No, mentioned that. Attempted to remove forum access but it gets overridden by the allow stuff.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on September 27, 2012, 03:11:59 pm
you can deny posting rights section-wise, but restricting read access just doesn't make sense[avatar]//mugenguild.com/~valodim/twi/nu-uh.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 27, 2012, 03:55:21 pm
Huh? No one suggesting taking away his viewing priviledges? They're just trying to prevent him from posting in the help section.

And that function isn't working.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on September 27, 2012, 04:16:29 pm
I don't think so. If they are, they're doing it wrong, because denying posting privileges does work as one (or at least, I) would expect[avatar]//mugenguild.com/~valodim/twi/filly_whaaa.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 27, 2012, 10:17:23 pm
I remember Iced saying that he couldn't get it to work.

So, Zantetsuken. He has recently caused a multiple page derailment by being a dumb idiot. This has happened before, and he's been banned at least three times over it. I don't know, is a final perma-ban in order?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 27, 2012, 10:27:23 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordugh.png[/avatar]I thought he already was perma-banned?  Because being a disruptive ass is the only thing he ever does.  I was under the impression that his last chance was, in fact, his last chance.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 27, 2012, 10:41:31 pm
Well how do i do it then Val? I have tried creating a new group without check boxes on the help sections, he's in it, it has no effect. So what's missing? If it's admin only stuff i can't do it anyway.

If it's easy i'd like it opened up because there are many situations where a section posting ban is a better idea than a full ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 27, 2012, 10:54:53 pm
I thought he already was perma-banned?  Because being a disruptive ass is the only thing he ever does.  I was under the impression that his last chance was, in fact, his last chance.
It certainly seems like he was perma-banned, but it must've been changed to expire at some point. I dunno.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on September 28, 2012, 12:24:38 am
He was given a another chance because a bunch of people (including some of you all) said that I was overdoing it when I permanently banned him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 28, 2012, 07:17:17 am
I vaguely recall that I was thinking that a permaban was too much for his disruptions because they were all easily handled and, at the end of the day, they were not that big of a deal.

But now it's been, what, 3 bans? At this point my patience has worn out, but I still don't feel very strongly towards banning him or not. :-\

edit:
found this
I'm gonna get rid of his ban one last time and give him more more chance. He's had a taste of the dungeon (M.I.) and maybe he's learned his lesson.

However, if he comes back and does the same exact thing without any good reason, and he doesn't stop when he is told to stop in way that we've all recently discussed was the right way, then he's going to be gone for a very long time because enough is enough.
he's been warned, he did it again, I'm in favor now
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 28, 2012, 05:45:03 pm
i permabanned zan and yall should have done it the minute he started trying to prod people into reacting to him and threatening with legal shit.
His avoidance to answer any mod should have hinted to you that he was a dumb troll.
Gogdamn
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 28, 2012, 05:54:28 pm
Any legal threats and I mean ANY, should be instant permaban.  No second chances, no questions asked, no warnings, no nothing except a ban.  Yeah, I said that.  Legal threats can bring ugly stuff into life offline and there is never an excuse or reason for it. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 28, 2012, 07:47:48 pm
i permabanned zan and yall should have done it the minute he started trying to prod people into reacting to him and threatening with legal shit.
What? No, that's what this thread is for. Discussion first, then ban. And that worked out pretty well this time.

His avoidance to answer any mod should have hinted to you that he was a dumb troll.
Gogdamn
He's too dumb to be a troll.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 29, 2012, 12:17:03 am
Blade Art is promoting his site again, ignoring moderators telling him to stop, and being an ass and continuing to do so.

see this topic (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/is-mugen-free-all-gonna-be-ok-144637.0.html)

also Iced word filtered his site to "my huge butt" and the url to "this site got spammed by a mod there so now its censored!! too bad, so sad."
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 29, 2012, 12:39:56 am
Nope agreeing with zantetsu being perma banned. He had his chance before. When you have a thread where EVERYONE has told you you're wrong (apart from E's who's sense of humour is warped, pick your times dude this wasn't one of them) i don't really think discussion is needed.

He's had his chances, fuck him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 29, 2012, 12:41:27 am
I don't think anyone was opposed to permabanning Zantetsuken?

What about Blade Art?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 29, 2012, 12:44:24 am
Blade Art...   Isn't he the guy who came back after, like, a half-year absence just to start a thread ranting about the staff and posts being deleted or something?  He seems to hold some sort of grudge against MFG.  It's not just him, though.  There's something about this site that seems to make certain people incredibly angry and yet unable to leave.

the bandwidth of my butt has tripled
*snicker*
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 29, 2012, 01:06:02 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/hello--144640.new.html#new
this guy brock is being kind of weird.
for now its no big deal.

Anyway we having an influx of people from mffa which is down, so treat the newcomers with attention and try to answer any doubts they might have!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on September 29, 2012, 01:31:52 pm
What about Blade Art?

leaving the wordfilter in for a couple days or weeks. he's whining in feedback now, which is fine.[avatar]//mugenguild.com/~valodim/twi/dayum.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 30, 2012, 01:45:33 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/darkmasao2-80413

guy's posts all seem to mimick someone else, usually being repeats of things said in the same thread or some other thread, what gives?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on September 30, 2012, 03:21:23 am
12 and thinks it's funny or one of those bots that does that. is an immature moron.

Probably shouldn't be posting here, lets email his parents to see if they agree cos we have a 13 and older thing on the registration.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on September 30, 2012, 03:44:31 pm
Uncursed Blade Art. What was the point of that? His site is word filtered, and he didn't even circumvent the filter in his sig. Even if he did, I see no point in restricting that.

Effectively changing a signature to ridicule the person then restricting his ability to change it, that is just rude. I'm not sure what the point of the "cursed" membergroup is, but if you have to use it please always clear the person's signature.[avatar]//mugenguild.com/~valodim/twi/hugsno.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 30, 2012, 09:29:15 pm
I cursed him so that he couldnt try to change the url of his site via url redirectors while he was being punished for spamming.
He never tried to change his sig because he wasnt able to.
The cursed option disallows profile edits for people that repeatedly break avatar rules or put insults in there.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 03, 2012, 05:26:00 am
so this celest guy is like 12. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/dncelestinx96-80267) Do we ban people for being too young? I don't remember.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on October 03, 2012, 05:36:36 am
I don't think we do. From what I've seen, he doesn't seem to be a problem case anyways. Considering the heat he got in that MI thread, I think he handled it well enough and the flames died down quickly.[avatar]//mugenguild.com/~valodim/twi/lookup.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 03, 2012, 08:05:54 am
We do have an age limit on the ToS iirc cos it's a standard thing with this sort of forum. We are obliged to trust they have obeyed the rules (i bet 99% of the time they don't) so unless his parents show up, he's allowed to be here.

Darkmasao2 is more of a problem than this guy anyway. (and not a big problem at that)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 03, 2012, 12:06:12 pm
dark masao has a easy solution, fuse all his releases as one if he starts spamming a bunch of releases that are like one pal or something, rename the thread ot darkmaso2 releases and its done.


     Posted: October 03, 2012, 02:05:48 pm
quick check reveals that from his last page of posts, five of them were just "DOOH" , several of them are copypasted posts from others.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 03, 2012, 10:53:43 pm
We shouldn't have to take any action on that one, if people would ignore him (and i think most are)

He doesn't need a banning, a warning about spam yes. In fact, doing that now.

You know, we have absolutely NOTHING that says terrible posts are against the rules, nothing whatsoever. Being a troll or intentionally annoying people is not actually disallowed. As long as you're not actually insulting people, there's nothing to stop you. Perhaps we ought to formulate something around that as it does seem to be something 90% of the forum agrees on and hates.

Making bad posts, shit posting, spam (yeah we have no rules about spamming) or even simply posting DOOOH are not in the rules. It may be common sense to posting habits, but we don't have THAT either. This doesn't come under the "self moderation" banner either.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 03, 2012, 11:11:21 pm
Not being a complete douche to others is not something that needs to be in any rules. Its the basics of social interaction and most people can read someone posts and see if they are acting as a total tool, it doesnt need to be "illegal" in order to be warned over.

I dont think we need to define any of it, simply if someone is acting too weirdly, ask other mods and see if its bothering anyone else.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 04, 2012, 12:04:36 am
Thing is, he's NOT being a douche to anyone, he's just making terrible posts. Bad posts in and of themselves are not insulting people, they're not propogating warez or porn, they're not shock links, they're not anything other than terrible posts which people get annoyed at.

We have no rules about people getting annoyed over other users posts either. I am simply pointing out that if people are going to be called out for "bad posting" there should be something laid down about it. It doesn't fit within any of the framework we have.

Posting

DOOOH

It doesn't insult anyone. It may not add anything to the discussion, but it also doesn't break any of our current rules unless you know of one i don't.

I'm not defending him, and i've sent him a PM just advising that he needs to moderate how he acts, but we don't have any rules whatsoever about terrible posts and that if we want to actually police that in any way the rules need to exist so people can read something is wrong, something that should be "common knowledge" isn't personal knowledge until you know of it. And you can claim ignorance of it if it suits you "I wasn't told, i don't see that rule anywhere"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 04, 2012, 12:13:01 am
But thats why you learn social interaction from others around you, they are supposed to learn as it goes and we are supposed to have patience as they grow up and acclimatize themselves, if you define a bunch of things that they cant do, there will be people always going "you cant tell me what im doing is annoying, its not in any rules!" .

We just have to be patient and teach them as they go, im surely not suggesting to ban them over being annoying. We had a lot of users over the time that had annoying traits that acclimatized and matured.

Cheers, rajaaboy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 04, 2012, 12:49:45 am
But we've also banned a lot of users for being annoying. Take GBK as an example. He annoys people. But he wasn't breaking any rules when he did so. We were justified in the ban only in the sense that he was told to stop and disobeyed the order. He wasn't breaking any official rules though which is why i'm saying this. A large number of bans have come from an "unofficial" rule and i think we should clarify it rather than running on social interaction for this one.

Even adding: "Please try to post responsibly" to the "behaviour rubs off" rule would probably be enough. That's not a constraint, it's just asking people to act in a civil manner so other people don't take their actions as gospel.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 04, 2012, 01:13:03 am
Neither of those would have prevented gbk mocking people and trying to ween them off from posting .  You can try to add any rules whatsoever about social interaction, but at the end of the day, people with poor social skills can only learn by themselves and telling them "post responsibly" or "dont annoy people" wont make an annoying person think that their posts are annoying.

All those "DOOOH" posts would still be posted if you had a whole bible of how to react and relate to others. Mind that I understand what you are saying, I just think its a massive waste of your ( or anyone's ) time to try to come up with those.

If tomorrow some new user starts posting with ragefaces to replace words in every post and they go "its not in any rules that i have to stop so i will do whatever I want!" you are not supposed to go add to rules "dont constantly post images in the middle of your text."
Its stuff that I dont think its enforceable.
Remember that user that always would post about his japanese actor "girlfriend"? And how people mocked him constantly? self correcting issue if its not being so severe that it breaks interaction in the forum.


we should probably separate this into a discussion of its own.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 04, 2012, 04:41:56 am
Rules that say "don't be a shithead" are really unnecessary, IMO.

Take GBK as an example. He annoys people. But he wasn't breaking any rules when he did so.
But, he was. He was insulting other users and directly ignored moderators telling him to stop posting in a thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on October 04, 2012, 04:56:52 am
Laying out an actual set of rules to dictate behavior just seems unfeasible to me.  For starters, they're practically impossible to actually enforce.  Writing out "Please don't act like X, Y, or Z" isn't going to stop people from acting like X, Y, or Z if they want to.  Hell, making it into an actual rule to be followed will probably make some people take it as a challenge. 

I think it's best if we continue dealing with behavior issues on a case-by-case basis.  It's better to keep it flexible, because there are distinctions that have to be made. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 04, 2012, 05:23:50 am
That's not at all what i suggested in the example. I'm not suggesting something prescriptive that you can point at. I am simply suggesting something that gives people a very general GUIDELINE of what is OK. As i say, posting DOOOH all over the place, please explain where in the rules that's not actually allowed? What gives us the right to take any action over that sort of post? We disallow spamming, although spam is a netiquette no-no, we don't have anything that says you'll get in trouble over it.

My suggestion is simply to add something about responsibility, that's a vague and wide ranging term that can apply to any situation where a user is being a dick/acting irresponsibly. It's something we already enforce. You're all enforcing it right now when it comes to anyone who is behaving badly. It's not going to prevent anything, i'm not saying that either, but we shouldn't be seen as enforcing rules that do not actually EXIST.

Please pay attention when other users tell you to stop something, that's terrible on all fronts. That puts all the power in the hands of other members who can decide to justify telling someone who just needs some time to leave. It's meant to be SELF moderation remember, not moderation by your peers.

I have also used the word suggesting far too much but cannot be fucked trying to work out how to re-word it so i use it less.

I am also well aware i'm not going to win this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 04, 2012, 12:55:03 pm
meanwhile masao now actually needs moderation as he is posting in release threads and spamming them with posts without content or generally baffling. =C
Can someone actually sift through that? I really cant right now.

At any rate, empty posting and general spamming are wrong anywhere, you dont need ot warn people that they will get in trouble for it the same way you dont need to warn them that they shouldnt try to have cybersex with every woman avaliable in a websight. its supposed to be common sense that you get looked down upon over it .


Btw I remembered now that once me and titiln made a list of rules for lasombra because he kept asking u sfor rules on what was good posting and what was not. Its in my sig. It was very tongue in cheek but illustrated some of the problems anyone encounters while trying to come up with posting guidelines.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 04, 2012, 02:34:09 pm
I'm removing the DOOH!!!!! posts. (and anything else that's dumb)

I think it's time to bring down the banhammer. He's either trolling (poorly) or is just a weirdo who can't interact with anyone on the forum.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 04, 2012, 09:47:32 pm
Sigh. Still not getting it.

Where do the rules say no trolling. Or no being stupid. They actually state the opposite.

Quote
1) Do not write users off as worthless beings because they:

•have not seen all episodes of your favorite anime
•cannot tell the original from an obviously badly stolen and over-powered MUGEN character of a very good friend of yours
•appear unable to simply contribute a half-decent stage background to MUGEN.
•. . .

It takes all kinds of people to make a world and we cannot all be superior.

There are probably a lot of disciplines in which you would end up on the latter places yourself—could you even be bothered to compete instead of just trying to have fun as a mostly uninvolved spectator who might not even care that much about the discipline in question to begin with. . .
There. Now i will admit i have PM'ed him (the PM notification system is terrible, i doubt he's seen my PM anyway) and had no response and he is probably a dead loss. I even believe he should be banned cos at least it'll give him something really obvious to prove his behaviour is a problem here. However it doesn't change the fact that having a completely unwritten rule of any sort that we can call on to ban people is just wrong.

I have no problem with adding something that properly justifies the bans. I have a problem with the vagueness of what we are applying.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on October 05, 2012, 01:25:47 pm
I agree with Cyanide. (In which we should clarify the spam rules and ban this guy)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 06, 2012, 04:57:30 am
He's got a short ban for the moment, 2 days. I have trashed rather too many off topic posts, he hasn't replied at all to JMM and he has obviously ignored my PM. The message is descriptive so he will at least be forced to read why he was banned. If he acts up on return it's obviously intentional and not just youth or a language barrier.

The user base here could help by not replying to him EVER and ignoring his topics. Lack of appreciation for his actions would help thanks.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 07, 2012, 07:53:38 pm
Jean bureau started a holocaust denying thread, I deleted it before racists started rearing their ugly head and then I would feel compulsed to ban them all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 07, 2012, 11:54:05 pm
WHAT THE FLYING FUCK
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 08, 2012, 07:27:54 am
So DarkMasao is back and is being DarkMasao. So far he hasn't been randomly posting DOOSH (yet) but he did just bump one of his releases randomly. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?msg=1647398)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 08, 2012, 08:03:39 am
And i'm going to randomly trash his posts. And shortly we'll get rid of him if he doesn't get it. My ban had some effect, he went straight to infantry to act the same so... yeah.

This doesn't change my previous comments but we may as well dump him. First post that's genuinely stupid = last straw.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 10, 2012, 02:45:01 pm
Masao is still shit posting. I'm banning him at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on October 10, 2012, 03:05:16 pm
no objections from my side. dat post history :stars:[avatar]//mugenguild.com/~valodim/twi/ohnoez.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 10, 2012, 03:18:08 pm
no objections from my side. dat post history :stars:
Dude Mugen
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 10, 2012, 03:23:49 pm
At the end of the day? How about now?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 10, 2012, 03:26:57 pm
To see if anyone objects? Sure he's had that time already but it doesn't hurt.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on October 10, 2012, 03:52:07 pm
CAMAN! DO IT! KILL HIM! KILL HIM NOW! HE'S RIGHT THEAR! DO IT! CAMAN!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 10, 2012, 03:53:37 pm
Ban him and then bring in the dancing lobsters.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on October 10, 2012, 04:39:59 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordthrone.png[/avatar]It would appear we have a consensus.  Drop the hammer, Morph-Man.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 10, 2012, 05:03:10 pm
don't tell me what to do! >:[

RIP DOOH!!!!!!!!!!!
07.2012-10.2012
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 10, 2012, 05:29:39 pm
fucking personists against the autismical, you all are pro ableist prejudiced.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on October 10, 2012, 06:49:27 pm
sometimes i wonder whether iced is joking or is manifesting a breakdown
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 14, 2012, 06:09:53 am
Can someone please explain to me what is going on with this guy? (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/shafty817-78405l)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 14, 2012, 06:32:37 am
You broke that link by adding an l or something to the end of it.

Very little, he barely posts. He mostly talks about 3D stuff and has wild ideas. He's not interfering anywhere else on the forum and is as far as i know completely harmless.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on October 14, 2012, 02:23:39 pm
Looks to me like some little kid who just found out about mugen, and is getting a little too carried away with what he imagines it can do.  As evidenced by the fact that he keeps 'announcing' stuff he plans to make for PS3.

As far as kids go, though, I think he's fine for now.  He's not being obnoxious or spammy, just a little over-eager.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 14, 2012, 05:44:25 pm
I think he needs to be perma-banned. How dare he register to this forum to post?

      Posted: October 14, 2012, 05:48:11 pm
Actually, he's spamming. I just had to delete two useless topics. Personal message. I guess.

      Posted: October 14, 2012, 06:03:59 pm
Or, considering the video that he posted in his Comic Con thread, he might have other issues like retardation. And I don't mean that offensively.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/new-york-comic-con-2012-triple-m-interview-145162.msg1649999.html#new
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 14, 2012, 07:08:32 pm
Ugh, try to treat him like a little kid, if he starts spamming ask him to stop, if he does useless threads explain to him why he shouldnt. If he keeps spamming then deal with him as you would with any other little kid that had joined and couldnt follow rules,  Until then, try to have patience with him, its not his fault that he has those limitation and we should be kind towards him.

If we see we cant prevent people from mocking him or whatever then other solutions shall have to be arranged.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on October 14, 2012, 09:26:43 pm
Well unless he becomes horrible i'm going to suggest banning people who mock him. Not cos i want to baby him, but i'd like to see the "lolol stupid must bash" mentality take a hit.

If the person is stupid DON'T FUCKING POST.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 15, 2012, 02:41:41 am
Actually, he's spamming. I just had to delete two useless topics. Personal message. I guess.
He's still (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/juri-han-school-outfit-wip-145174.0.html) spamming. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/karin-kanzuki-2012-wip-145173.0.html)

I really don't know what to make of this guy. :|

HIDDEN TEXT HERE==>download this tuesday
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 15, 2012, 04:57:08 am
Looks like c00 took care of those two topics, but he's reposting them. And if he hasn't responded by now to that PM, I think it's time we took action.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 15, 2012, 12:00:41 pm
I thought he was so obviously a spammer, and was confused as to why he wasn't banned yet after reading a few of the last posts here and checking his post history. But then I watched the video he posted and read through some of the other posts and I feel bad. I take back my rude angry post that was here.

That's what I get for not paying attention. Whoops.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 16, 2012, 03:15:07 pm
And now Shafty is harassing other users. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1650673) It's time to ban. Any objections lady fellow staff members?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on October 16, 2012, 03:51:53 pm
Yes. Did anyone send him a PM explaining why he shouldn't make those threads/posts/etc?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 16, 2012, 03:54:23 pm
I see GOD reported him as asking people to do stuff for him, has anyone explained shafty that he shouldnt do this and that isnt the purpose of this site at all?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 16, 2012, 04:24:49 pm
I thought Rajaa sent him a PM?

Actually, he's spamming. I just had to delete two useless topics. Personal message. I guess.
that's still unclear though :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on October 20, 2012, 04:24:15 pm
Just posting here to say that I'm banning this guy if he makes another one of his usual dumb posts.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/lord-valvatorez-80267
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 20, 2012, 05:06:50 pm
seems fine to me, from the story it seems like he got warned twice, one by jm one by me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 21, 2012, 06:38:10 am
I banned him for 7 days. He posted a topic of KOF sprites (that wouldn't show and he refused to fix it) saying that the characters would be shit if they were made. And then told someone to fix their grammar because they told him the images weren't showing.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/boardseen./topics/it-would-be-cool-if--145309.msg1652652.html#new
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 21, 2012, 06:42:16 am
saying that the characters would be shit if they were made.
Uh... he said they would be THE shit. Not that they would be shit. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 21, 2012, 06:44:19 am
My mistake. However, I still stand by the ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 21, 2012, 01:30:39 pm
The sprites probably showed on his screen because of his cache. So here he is thinking he posted a legit topic and everyone is getting on his case about it. The first reply in the thread is Lord Kain saying he hopes he gets banned. And like JMorph said, he said they are THE shit. I mean the topic was bad and everything but to him it looked like he posted the sprites and got insulted for it. None of the people giving him "warnings" were mods anyway.

I don't like this ban but it's only for a week so meh. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 21, 2012, 01:53:31 pm
I mostly banned him because he went ahead and did the same thing that Iced told him not to do. Telling people that they are flaming wrong because their grammar, like he is a master flamer or something. It's only a week. And if it helps, I sent him a friendly message that he can respond to when he's back. =p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 21, 2012, 03:33:36 pm
Oh, I wasn't aware that he had past behavior problems. I read the topic and the posts here and assumed his ban was strictly because of that topic. Sorry.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 21, 2012, 05:07:54 pm
Don't be sorry, it's still not the best ban ever.

      Posted: October 26, 2012, 05:41:41 pm
Calling someone a lazy fuck is not constructive.

Don't bash someone because they posted a compilation, people. That's unnecessary. Just tell them why it's wrong, report it, and move on. Although the particular person who started the topic from which the above quote came seems to be obsessed with bashing "clones," whatever they are.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on November 01, 2012, 01:24:05 pm
I have removed dncelestinx96's posting privileges for 1 month, for constantly derailing topics and not being able to get along with anyone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 12, 2012, 01:06:41 am
jermboy27 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/jermboy27-80339) is doing the "make me characters" thing; he's been warned twice but I doubt he'll listen so next time he asks, I'm banning him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 12, 2012, 02:18:09 am
Yeah I'm having less and less patience for people filling the board with topics like this, regardless of their excuse for it. I agree with your decision.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on November 12, 2012, 02:55:02 am
That sounds about right.

Side note:  It would be kind of fascinating to learn exactly what this guy thinks goes into making a character.  Most people just say "hey, can someone make this guy for me."  This dude posts a photograph of someone dressed as a character and goes "Ask yourself:  can you make this character."  It's very bizarre.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 12, 2012, 03:57:21 am
Well that didn't take very long. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/boardseen./topics/request-wild-barney-spriteswap-wariomans-elmo--145814.msg1655764.html#new) :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 12, 2012, 03:14:05 pm
Ah'm showing you all guys and dolls my request: reduce shitposting

Its a spriteswap of reducing spam.

Before you reduce shitposting, answer the question: Can you reduce shitposting?

Then reduce shitposting.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 12, 2012, 08:02:37 pm
Shitposting is a mascot at Universal Studios Japan, right?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 14, 2012, 04:23:10 am
Someone is cruising for a bruising. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/tetsuga-gensho-40276)

He derailed a release thread after I told people to keep it on topic, and he's been white knighting and insulting people in this thread (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/chuchoryu-vs-cvsnb-sprite-stealing-rumble-turbo-hd-145785.0.html). AND he called me a dipshit! >:[

so yeah, unless he improves quickly, I think he'll need a month or so time out
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on November 14, 2012, 04:23:58 am
You could probably talk to him and avoid banning him. He doesn't seem completely outrageous.

Try talking to him personally and respectably.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 14, 2012, 04:25:20 am
You could probably talk to him and avoid banning him. He doesn't seem completely outrageous.

Try talking to him personally and respectably.
I have been? I keep telling him to calm down and stuff and that's when he called me a dipshit. So yeah. >:[

     Posted: November 14, 2012, 05:03:16 am
Banned. One month seems fair, I think.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on November 14, 2012, 05:09:24 am
I would have made the ban a week, if anything. He wasn't the only one throwing insults, etc. Remember, personal messages make people feel less like they're getting jumped, and it lets them know they're being moderated.

And he shouldn't necessarily show you "special" respect simply because you're a moderator, I was bothered by that post you made. Him calling you a dipshit is just as bad as him calling anyone else a dipshit. You implied that you let him personally affect you enough to make you want to ban him as a retaliation.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on November 14, 2012, 06:57:04 am
One month is too long definitely. Our standard "slap on the wrist" is 3 days.

Also, best to take warnings to PM's as they are more likely to read them and if they respond like a cock in the PM you know they're not listening.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 14, 2012, 10:03:40 pm
Remember, personal messages make people feel less like they're getting jumped, and it lets them know they're being moderated.
Eh, I didn't think it warranted a personal message. I asked him calmly to cool off, and he'd still feel persecuted by the other people in the thread, IMO.

And he shouldn't necessarily show you "special" respect simply because you're a moderator, I was bothered by that post you made. Him calling you a dipshit is just as bad as him calling anyone else a dipshit. You implied that you let him personally affect you enough to make you want to ban him as a retaliation.
Yeah, I did not mean that! I was gonna add something about "And you know, don't call other users dipshits either" or something, but I guess I never did. :ninja:

As for the ban length, he'd been banned before (but I couldn't figure out why), so I thought a month long one was fair. But I suppose we can always reduce it?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 14, 2012, 10:10:37 pm
if you cant remember what he did last, it wasnt relevant to the thing he got banned for now and it shouldnt influence the lenght at all. a week would be more than enough.


HE IS MAD WITH POWER SOON HE WILL BE MAKING EVERYONE WATCH GUNDAM!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on November 14, 2012, 11:12:29 pm
Requesting we all start referencing threads or providing detailed description in the notes when banning please. Some of them aren't very descriptive at all and we can't tell what any prior ban was for.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 14, 2012, 11:20:45 pm
Agreed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 27, 2012, 09:09:16 am
dncelestinx96 (who is banned right now) has been abusing the report section.

first he reported Iced for some reason, probably because MC2 did it and he wanted to be cool or something (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1665849)
then he reported Mgbenz for making a joke about spamming gay porn to people's emails (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?msg=1666998)
then he reported someone suggesting a Ryu Z2 be made (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?msg=1668566)
after that last one GOH told him to cut it out or his ban would be extended

So of course celest decides to be more careful in reporting things by reporting a topic for having a broken link, like, literally using the report section as a request board or something (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?msg=1669875)

After that last one I added another week to his ban and took away his login privileges. Maybe he didn't check the replies to his reports or something, but that's no excuse. He needs to straighten up fast for when his ban ends.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 27, 2012, 11:22:58 am
Mc2 is a drag whose posts revolve around how much he hates stuff or how much he is good at fighting games. Caddie totally demolished mc2 &  pal arguments about how a krauser should play by being an actually good player and knowing what he was talking about.
Mad cad respect. Dont care if mc2 got butthurt over it, he can go tell people how much he hates stuff to feel better.



Celestin just seems like a kid trying to get some sort of respect by acting like the most obnoxious person in the room, try to steer him right if possible.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on November 27, 2012, 03:17:59 pm
I believe you're talking about this (for people who don't know what you're talking about):

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/your-releases-mugen-1-0-re-wolgang-krauser-145941.msg1665945.html#msg1665945

What a coincidence, both of the above mentioned people are present in that report. I think I handled it well.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 29, 2012, 09:33:55 pm
I'm going to ban Navana for 3 days if he doesn't answer my thrice-asked question. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1671540)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on November 29, 2012, 09:47:19 pm
Exactly how many more chances is Navana going to get?  It's always the same cycle with this guy.  He acts like an obnoxious, gimmicky attention whore, gets called out for it, escalates his gimmicky bullshit, gets banned, comes back with a sob story and swearing to be a changed man, stays quiet for a little while, notices people aren't talking about him anymore, and acts like an obnoxious, gimmicky attention whore.  Repeat ad infinitum.

I say that if he doesn't knock this crap off immediately, we perma-ban him once and for all.  Enough is too much.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 29, 2012, 10:36:37 pm
Exactly how many more chances is Navana going to get?  It's always the same cycle with this guy.  He acts like an obnoxious, gimmicky attention whore, gets called out for it, escalates his gimmicky bullshit, gets banned, comes back with a sob story and swearing to be a changed man, stays quiet for a little while, notices people aren't talking about him anymore, and acts like an obnoxious, gimmicky attention whore.  Repeat ad infinitum.

I say that if he doesn't knock this crap off immediately, we perma-ban him once and for all.  Enough is too much.
He had a perfect opportunity to have everything forgotten and to become a normal member of the community, and everything seemed fine. Then he decided to make another MI and then lie about it. I don't understand the logic behind it at all.

So yeah, no more chances. This is it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on November 30, 2012, 01:15:39 am
I don't think he's done anything perma-ban worthy.  He's very immature but even banning someone for three days because they wont respond to a post in the random topic over something that was obviously a joke seems kind of excessive to me too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on November 30, 2012, 09:02:51 am
I don't think Navana should be banned because he didn't answer a question in a thread. He was ignoring you, if he's capable of doing that, then we should all be capable of ignoring him.

Did you try a personal mess -- wait, this is Navana we're talking about, a personal message would have done nothing.

He's a lying, conniving exhibitionist. Ban him forever or don't ban him at all. Three days means nothing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 30, 2012, 04:40:10 pm
Ignoring a moderator is a serious problem, isn't it? I think it is, so he gets a slap on the wrist while we talk about whether the ban should be permanent.

... and he has posted again, in Random Topic even. I'm doing it. I'm MAKING IT HAPEN
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on November 30, 2012, 11:49:22 pm
Ignoring a moderator is only a serious problem if the moderator is directing someone to stop breaking rules.  As far as I know making a fake MI, linking to a fake MI, lying (if in fact it is a lie) about making a fake MI or anything to do with a fake MI is not against any rules.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 01, 2012, 02:08:03 am
^ +1 to that.

I don't even see that he's actively pissing people off. He has posted like this FOREVER. He's not going to change because of anything you say. Your attempts to "educate" achieve nothing. Stop trying.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 06, 2012, 11:03:39 pm
So how are we deciding this? The Navana thing? I still don't know where I fall on it but Titiln is making very persuasive arguments in the feedback topic. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 06, 2012, 11:20:32 pm
I say we should do what I said in the very beginning.  Make this his absolute last chance.  The next time he falls back into his routine, permaban him.  One more roleplaying/font color gimmick, one more insincere 'apology' thread about how much he's changed, one more post completely ignoring the topic at hand just to say "hello there dear friends how are you all on this wonderful day ;)," one more post treating this forum like a personal tumblr just to start shitstorms, and we kick his ass out once and for all.

At this point, whether or not we can convince people to ignore him is irrelevant.  If a troll is successful, you don't lay the blame with the people who got trolled, you still blame the stupid troll.  Navana should be held accountable for his own actions.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 07, 2012, 12:07:23 am
I really doubt our userbase is willing to give him another chance, even if we don't ban him. Just look, nobody even bothers to white knight him anymore.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 07, 2012, 01:11:14 am
banning him isnt he worse thing that could happen.

Replacing ...~ with "YOU THILLY THILLY BOYS" and locking his profile would probably be worse.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 07, 2012, 01:39:07 am
That's fine too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 08, 2012, 06:03:13 pm
Iced and I discussed whether Navana should be banned or not after the recent series of events. Here's what we decided on. I agree with what MissB posted after Navana made a post in the feedback to warnings thread:

I am one of the few people on staff here who has argued against banning you for your immaturity.   This is obviously an attempt to get people to start talking about you again because you lost the spotlight for a few hours.  The NEXT time you come into this thread attempting to stir things up, I'll ban you myself if someone else doesn't beat me to it.  It really has come down to grow up or get out.  And do not reply to this Navana/Sniper...   the rest of you let it alone too.

As far as we are concerned, this is his last chance. He released a stage recently so he's actively contributing to Mugen and that's one of the factors to why he hasn't been banned yet. But if any of you mods see 'Navana being Navana' and I'm sure you all know what that means by now, feel free to ban at your discretion, and bring it up here so we can discuss how to finalize it.

Also, after that whole 'new mugen infantry' forum deal we figured that Navana needed some form of punishment and discouragement for starting that kind of drama up again. So the link to that forum is now filtered here, and Navana's profile has been blanked and locked to put an end to that kind of stuff and the gimmicks.

If any of you have any objections about how I handled this please let me know, I'm still new here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 08, 2012, 06:09:03 pm
That's what I've been saying the entire time.  Why come nobody listens to Person Man?  >:(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 08, 2012, 06:23:20 pm
If he does something else, then that means he has actively went around the safeguards to do it (you made it easy for him NOT to get banned).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 08, 2012, 08:43:32 pm
Sounds good.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 08, 2012, 09:28:09 pm
That is indeed a good solution. I'm also with MBH.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 10, 2012, 09:45:54 pm
Banned Navana for 3 days for registering and posting with another account.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/cosmetics-81011


Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 10, 2012, 09:54:14 pm
Just three days? I thought this was his last chance. He should be permabanned, IMO.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 10, 2012, 09:57:54 pm
the three days are just so we can finalize, remember what we talked, dont permaban without people agreeing.

I say Aye.

and good fucking riddance
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 10, 2012, 10:30:45 pm
I agree.

That was his last chance. I'm positive enough of you are gonna agree and say permaban. So when that happens, bye Navana. I'm sorry things ended up this way, but it's like you really couldn't help yourself. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 10, 2012, 10:53:06 pm
Did he seriously think we wouldn't catch on to him?  What an asshole.

I vote yes on a permanent ban.  Enough is enough.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 11, 2012, 12:31:21 am
+1
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 11, 2012, 03:17:13 am
Made it easy for him not to get banned, and now's he's getting banned -- banned forever. Still doesn't know how to hide his traces on the internet.

+1

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on December 11, 2012, 03:26:31 am
finally our national nightmare is over. now we can re-post in peace and security
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 11, 2012, 03:28:54 am
I think that's more than enough support. Ban increased to permanent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 11, 2012, 05:40:09 am
Just read the first post of the alternate account and just wow.

     Posted: December 11, 2012, 06:16:03 am
For those of you who are confused, I'm talking about Celest.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 11, 2012, 02:51:14 pm
For those of you who are confused, I'm talking about Celest.
Celest has an alternate account? Or do you mean the introduction thread?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 11, 2012, 11:42:14 pm
I meant the introduction thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 19, 2012, 09:15:36 pm
So how about that Alexlexus, huh? Spamming videos, spamming the Guild's facebook page apparently, ignoring literally every single post that is not praise towards him, refusing to participate in conversation...

I don't know if a permaban is warranted like Iced has said in the shit thread, but a ban of some sort seems needed to me
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 19, 2012, 09:19:25 pm
He absolutely ignored every post if he thought he was still legitimately allowed to put his videos in the guild after cyanide and I told him that he was forbidden to.


"I NO LONGER MAKING REFERENCES" to "MAH BOI ( boi is spanish for male cow ) SBZ IS SLAMMING MFG" also shows that he is lying again and trying to get people permabanned from the guild to pass their messages here, which to me sides him really close to being permabanned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 19, 2012, 10:22:49 pm
I banned him for thirty days after he ignored my last message, and now we decide what we want to do with him, do we set a ban time of how much ( it can be less than those thirty days ) , do we perma, what do we do.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 19, 2012, 10:23:45 pm
Has he been banned before? If not, 30 days sounds fine, IMO.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on December 19, 2012, 10:49:52 pm
He has been banned before, but it was so long ago I can't remember what was the reason.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 19, 2012, 10:53:48 pm
ban list said:
alexlexus    ban by titiln    disregarding orders
Well then, maybe a ban longer then 30 days is needed. Maybe even up to 6 months. I just think a permaban is not needed at this point.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 20, 2012, 12:08:10 am
I'm afraid if he posted his video twice on this forum, and then once on the Facebook page of this forum, after being told to not post his video, then he's intentionally deciding to be a nuisance. I would go so far as to say that he's taking orders from SBZ, but of course that's just speculation.

Either way, he knew what he is doing, he's not THAT mentally incapable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 20, 2012, 12:11:39 am
he claimed that whatever he said and posted was sbz doing, so thats not a speculation.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 20, 2012, 12:14:10 am
he claimed that whatever he said and posted was sbz doing, so thats not a speculation.
Where did he say that? I must've missed it because reading his posts is a pain.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 20, 2012, 12:16:28 am
he claimed that whatever he said and posted was sbz doing, so thats not a speculation.
So, SBZ has access to Alexlexus' account? SBZ used a mind control jutsu? Hypnosis through the podcast?

Where did he make that claim? Not that it matters, because both of them are troublemakers.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 20, 2012, 12:22:16 am
that time stamp was given to me from sbz.

i didnt word it i simply had it copy pasted. i am no longer the only one on production anymore. once anomaly fell off the show
my new partners have assisted me. i am not fan of the wording of the time stamp but i was not the one who made it. this is
can be proven upon request.

in the video i took a different route and i mentioned no names, no one was put on blast, and also i can not control how one expressed himself during the middle part of the show. I can only have him speak for himself but from what i understand he cant here anymore.
i spoke to my staff about this and you can ask mugenlord the main topics were legit. I ALEXLEXUS did not say anything on this cast to provoke or trigger a flamewar. I cant say for sure how people are going to react to what i am saying but for those who have spoken to me on PMs here and know that i didnt have harsh intent ever.


here is he claiming that a post he made was by sbz.

he is also saying that he doesnt insult anyone but put sbz there to insult people  while claiming he cant control him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 20, 2012, 12:24:47 am
I think he is claiming he had no control over what was said during a certain time in the video, not a post.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 20, 2012, 12:25:36 am
The timestamp was his previous post.


edit:
Its offical.
(http://i.imgur.com/6Et3L.png)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 20, 2012, 12:28:02 am
Ugh, what a dumb dumb.

At least nobody watches his videos, right?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 20, 2012, 12:29:50 am
I dont even know where he is getting trolling from.

Its like he cant even understand his own language.

I should also point out that you dont get in trouble for one reported post, so this wasnt probably his first report for spam.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 20, 2012, 12:44:39 am
What is his damage, anyway?  It's not like most troublemakers where they start shit and argue with everyone while whining about being persecuted.  With the way he ignores any reactions to the stuff he's doing and only respond to posts that are extra-special nice to him like those are the only posts that are even there, he seems to be pretending that nothing is happening at all, and that MFG is out to get him for no reason.  It's almost like he actually believes that he's done nothing at all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 20, 2012, 01:11:23 am
I dont even know where he is getting trolling from.

Its like he cant even understand his own language.
He obviously wasn't reading any of the replies. Just skimming over them for any sign of praise. What a weirdo!


It's not like most troublemakers where they start shit and argue with everyone while whining about being persecuted.
It kinda seems like that's the vast majority of the troublemakers here. I'm having trouble thinking of people who haven't cried PERSECUTION. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on December 20, 2012, 11:02:42 am
I said multiple times if he posted his shitty nmoshow videos i would trash it. That was all.

I apparently do not have the chance to do this. He was at liberty to post any WIP video's he wished within his wip threads. Just not the NMOshow which nobody here gives 2 shits about.

They might give a shit about his wip threads, but they are somewhat easier to ignore being in a section where everything else is updated very frequently and in a far more interesting fashion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 20, 2012, 03:57:22 pm
I think he is claiming he had no control over what was said during a certain time in the video, not a post.

He literally gave SBZ an entrance before SBZ began his rant, so he's still lying. Go figure.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 20, 2012, 04:07:27 pm
Who even cares if he had control over what SBZ was saying, it's not really relevant to why he was banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 20, 2012, 04:25:55 pm
Well, posting videos that insult the community and MFG and then not replying to the people who reply to him is why he was banned. I thought he was trying to say that he had nothing to do with SBZ's rant, so he can use it as an excuse to take a free shot at MFG again and claim he had nothing to do with it, which isn't true because, as I said, he gave SBZ an entrance.

But either way, he didn't really contribute anything to the forum and he didn't post much, so his absence won't really be missed by anybody. He got what he asked for, and he's still not a martyr, so I wonder if all of the time he inputs into this is worth it in the end.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 20, 2012, 06:10:05 pm
I only watched about 30 seconds, so I will keep my catty, condescending, uninformed, etc comments about THAT to myself.   I did read enough of the thread to realize  alexlexus was having trouble making any kind of point and was ignoring most of the comments and questions directed at him.  It is a DISCUSSION forum after all and that implies read AND reply.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 23, 2012, 03:12:23 pm
caddie you forgot to add the ip ban to fighuass. Ive fixed it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 23, 2012, 03:30:47 pm
Gotcha. Whoopsie!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 23, 2012, 05:16:01 pm
when they have only the current name and email banned they can try to register again a new account, he was registered as derpysantaclaus.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on December 26, 2012, 06:55:03 pm
What are viewpoints on Celest (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/dncelestinx96-80267)?

He was warned practically simultaneous by Jmorphman and I in two separate threads recently, and he's still doing what I specifically told him not to do in this post: http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1685299

Plus, the other warnings he has gotten over time. Why won't he stop defying direct orders? I was going to give him the "last warning" message, but I posted here instead.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 26, 2012, 08:24:02 pm
One, final warning sounds good.  Maybe even in a PM.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 04, 2013, 04:49:16 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/sterlingterror-81157

Horrible first post. Keep an eye out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 04, 2013, 04:53:12 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordimpatient.png[/avatar]Eh.  Everyone's an idiot when they start out.  One single post hardly merits attention, IMO.  If he makes a habit of it, then we can start looking into it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 04, 2013, 05:01:34 am
It's suspicious. He just registered and immediately quoted a 2 year old post to insult someone's mother.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 04, 2013, 05:07:46 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-4.png[/avatar]Oh, I didn't notice that the quote in question was that old.  Okay, yeah, we may want to keep tabs on this guy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 11, 2013, 01:20:28 am
So yeah, Dncelestinx96. I don't think that warning is working out too great (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1695453).

I'll just quote myself here
Besides, didn't Jmorph say he was already on his last warning? Seems like he just blew it.
He's blown that warning at least three times since I told him it. He's not getting better, but I dunno if his behavior is ban-worthy right now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 12, 2013, 01:16:25 am
I think you can handle that by yourself, and if you have already talked to him, you are already going on the right path.

Yeah hes not a big enough nuisance but he needs to get some actual pointers, because he cant post like that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 12, 2013, 03:19:45 am
We've given him pointers, multiple times. That's what the final warning was. Again, I don't think he's done anything ban-worthy, so I'm fishing for ideas.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 12, 2013, 03:28:52 am
Hmm... how does this sound?

Give him a small, one or two day ban to give him some time to cool off, along with a PM explaining it.  Just lay it out very plainly what he's doing wrong and what he needs to do to keep from getting into serious trouble.

Would that be acceptable?  A quick slap on the wrist to say 'Hey, cut that shit out' before things get out of hand.  Because it seems like ordinary warnings aren't doing the trick with this kid.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 12, 2013, 08:25:02 am
I gave him the same amount of warnings as Jmorphman. I specifically told him what he shouldn't do.

To be honest, I'm ready to ban him for a year until he's mature enough or something. His age is reflected in his posts so much that the 13 years or older rule should be invoked.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 12, 2013, 06:00:06 pm
We've given him pointers, multiple times. That's what the final warning was. Again, I don't think he's done anything ban-worthy, so I'm fishing for ideas.

He's obtuse, disruptive and has disregarded multiple direct warnings. That's ban-worthy imo.

I agree with banning him until he's a bit older. Hopefully he'll learn to behave irl or other less tolerant corner of the internet.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on January 16, 2013, 01:11:38 am
Hi raremew, aka BlazEdge21 aka BladeXneon. All 3 of your active accounts were merged into one, your original account raremew. You can edit it to whatever you want but don't register multiple accounts to use to have conversations with yourself again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 23, 2013, 11:43:32 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/sorry-guild-147697.new.html#new

tops apologized for the whole thing with vozz a while ago.  thought i should point it out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 27, 2013, 06:09:33 am
Why is it so easy to sense these things? Is it people's lack of effort or experience?

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mbisonyesyes-81305
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=65613
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 29, 2013, 12:05:21 am
OK, dncelestinx96 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/dncelestinx96-80267). I'm at the end of my rope with him. I don't think he's gonna get any better.

Someone give me a reason why he shouldn't be banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on January 29, 2013, 12:12:58 am
He's brain damaged so it's not his fault?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on January 29, 2013, 12:16:12 am
What specifically did he do that caused you to decide he needs to be banned?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 29, 2013, 12:21:12 am
What specifically did he do that caused you to decide he needs to be banned?
Nothing specific. Unless the entirety of his posting history counts.

Hmm, let's see. he derails nearly every thread he posts in. He doesn't get along well with literally anybody. He's just a bad poster.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on January 29, 2013, 08:53:02 pm
Why is it so easy to sense these things? Is it people's lack of effort or experience?

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mbisonyesyes-81305
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=65613
Since the alt account now officially has 0 posts(just one in recycle), rather than going through the process of merging the accounts since he doesn't have any active posts, I'm just gonna ban the alt account with a message like "don't register alts" or "use your primary account".
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on January 30, 2013, 11:18:44 am
If Dncelestinx96 does something like this again (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/gaming-one-piece-pirate-warriors-whitebeard-vs-kizaru-ps3--147874.0.html) I have no problems with banning him. I'm tempted to want him out just for that, not only for the site link but the sass he gave to both people in that report. Hell if there's enough support for it I say go for it.

Any of you want him gone for this?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on January 30, 2013, 11:25:14 am
Let's sit him in the corner for a month. He literally had, like, more than 10 final warnings. Enough's enough.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on January 30, 2013, 11:47:14 am
a month is more than enough consideration. lets see if he can learn how to conduct himself in a non-oblivious manner in the time given-
the next times not going to be as lenient
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on January 30, 2013, 12:38:21 pm
I agree with banning him for a month now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on January 30, 2013, 01:53:58 pm
A week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 30, 2013, 02:23:53 pm
A month sounds fair.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 30, 2013, 02:39:13 pm
That report shows that he hasn't improved one bit since he joined the forum and that all of the previous warnings have gone over his head.

I honestly see no reason to keep this burden around any longer. You know he isn't going to turn into a decent poste one month from here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 30, 2013, 03:37:04 pm
I have no objections. A month sounds fine.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on January 30, 2013, 04:18:20 pm
Alright, based on majority opinion I banned Dncelestinx96 for a month.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on January 30, 2013, 05:28:38 pm
I like the way you moderate boy
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on February 12, 2013, 04:17:41 pm
Banned HJK for 13 months.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 12, 2013, 04:27:27 pm
For what reason?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 12, 2013, 04:29:39 pm
For being an insufferably obnoxious, spamming troll.  Specifically, for what he started in this thread:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/this-merge-doesnt-deserve-witty-topic-titile-63101.19380.html
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 12, 2013, 04:30:12 pm
Uh isn't that the "shit thread"?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on February 12, 2013, 04:31:51 pm
IIRC spamming isn't allowed even in the shit thread. I was going to ban him months ago for multiple reasons but Iced wouldn't let me. >_>
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 12, 2013, 04:32:26 pm
For only posting to incite unnecessary debates? For being on a short leash after having all 3 of his alternate accounts merged? For spamming the same thing over and over again (not sure if the random topic counts).

Seriously, check his post history. All of his posts are direct attacks at people for no reason at all. Someone who doesn't mature after 5 years isn't ever going to mature without some kind of actual help -- he's out of ours hands and I wouldn't even be adverse to permanent ban. And no leniency with the alternate accounts when he makes another one, which he will.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 12, 2013, 04:33:17 pm
This has been a long time coming, honestly.  This was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Also, he immediately attempted a ban evade.  I've already taken the liberty of banning the new account.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/remi8988-81391
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 12, 2013, 04:38:25 pm
Thats not even the random thread, thats the shit thread.  Why are people even going in that thread to expect any kind of meaningful posting at all.  Seriously?  You are going to start banning people for being stupid in the thread specifically started for shit posting?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 12, 2013, 04:40:56 pm
The thread isnt meant to "post shit here" its meant to fuse sub par threads so they dont fill up the rest of the section but you still dont delete anyone posting a "random" thread.

he had 3 accounts he used for "trolling" merged and told to behave better from now on. His reaction to me talking to him after trying again "to troll" ( very badly) was to start spamming the same post over and over again.
read the post bellow again. read his posts too.
13  might be too much, but he was warned.
For only posting to incite unnecessary debates? For being on a short leash after having all 3 of his alternate accounts merged? For spamming the same thing over and over again (not sure if the random topic counts).

Seriously, check his post history. All of his posts are direct attacks at people for no reason at all. Someone who doesn't mature after 5 years isn't ever going to mature without some kind of actual help -- he's out of ours hands and I wouldn't even be adverse to permanent ban. And no leniency with the alternate accounts when he makes another one, which he will.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on February 12, 2013, 04:43:13 pm
Another account.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/jerseyboy23456-81392

He says "he's going to be serious this time in his next account".

Whatever that means.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 12, 2013, 04:43:25 pm
Thats not even the random thread, thats the shit thread.  Why are people even going in that thread to expect any kind of meaningful posting at all.  Seriously?  You are going to start banning people for being stupid in the thread specifically started for shit posting?

It's not just the shit thread.  It's every thread he posts in.  His posts are almost exclusively composed of unwarranted, unprovoked attacks on other users.  He constantly goes out of his way to stir shit up wherever he can, then waits for people to respond so he can reply "ha ha you reacted lol i troll u."
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 12, 2013, 04:43:39 pm
it means, its now a permaban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 12, 2013, 04:45:30 pm
There are limits to how you can shit post as well. The way he does it is too over the edge. And gets on the nerves of the users. He does it outside of that thread as well. It just happens this time was within that thread. I don't think this forum wants to encourage any area that's completely free to spam and incite in. Once you start treating it like Random Insanity it gets too far :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 12, 2013, 08:02:28 pm
And I guess we are no longer banning for 3 days then discussing.  Nice to know.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: GOH on February 12, 2013, 08:09:23 pm
I don't think there's a need to discuss banning someone, who's been banned permanently before for the same reasons.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 12, 2013, 08:38:11 pm
And I guess we are no longer banning for 3 days then discussing.  Nice to know.
Iced already discussed this with him and the deal was: don't be yourself (being himself is equivalent to being horrible), or get banned again. He should have not even been allowed back in the first place, now that I think about it. Three accounts and being a troublemaker throughout all of them. We've been too lax on making decisions and stuff, even on some really basic levels; it's the extreme of the exact opposite of intolerance.

Your constant opposition to every decision is more obnoxious than it is helpful. You can let the gimmick go, we will still like you if you don't oppose everything.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 12, 2013, 09:04:54 pm
he is still only banned for a period of time, you can give reasons for or against his permaban now I guess.
That he started doing new accounts once he got banned the first time to push the spam says a lot imo.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 12, 2013, 09:41:25 pm
I agree with hjk's ban, but we still need to follow procedure (ban 3 days, discuss)

13  might be too much, but he was warned.
With his history a year sounds fair. But, with all these attempts at ban evasions, a permaban is probably the way to go. He has shown throughout his time here that he will make no effort towards improving and interacting with other users. He's had chances to do so, and he's refused them all.

I don't think there's a need to discuss banning someone, who's been banned permanently before for the same reasons.
There is absolutely a need to do so; we all agreed to put into place that banning system, and it applies to everyone. No matter what.

he is still only banned for a period of time, you can give reasons for or against his permaban now I guess.
That's not the same thing at all. The three day thing was for determining whether the ban should stay in place and what length it should be. So too should have happened to hjk, no matter what his history was.

But yeah he clearly is in full troll mode now, so I say permaban the cretin.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 12, 2013, 09:51:57 pm
Yeah, I don't think anyone's going to object to giving HJK the boot for good (well, maybe MissB, but she's staring to seem to be opposed to ever banning anyone for anything, ever), but in the future we should probably abide by the 3-days/consensus method more strictly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 12, 2013, 09:55:03 pm
I'd like to side track the discussion a bit here. Just in terms of ban lengths and what they should be for so we as a group can do things with less discussion aside from perma ban.

3 days: This should be the slap on the wrist for a first offence after due warning or for a more serious first offence (i'm mostly thinking in terms of illegal software or porn for this side of things)
1 week: you've had the 3 day ban, you've just continued your faults after coming back, we are serious
1 month: For properly serious offences like harassment or spam from users who were normal up to this point.
6 months: This i believe should be the longest expiring ban we have. This would come from shock images, posting illegal software intentionally in a way designed to actually get it out there.

In all the above situations spam bots are exempt, these should basically be deleted on sight. All of this can be changed, in fact please do argue about this. If we can say "In this situation the ban length should be this" we're going to be able to manage all the shit we go through each time much better. Perma bans should still be discussed, but it means we're all on the same page for how long a ban should be on the minor offences so we don't go through people disagreeing with a ban length when people hurl 3 weeks at someone who's simply done a bit of shitposting.

I think if you're banning someone for a year or what have you we should be discussing permanent ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 12, 2013, 10:38:38 pm
I like the sound of that.  I do have one think I think we might add to it, though.  It's something I've considered doing myself a few times before, but I never did because I wasn't sure if anyone else would agree with me about it.  But hey, as long as we're talking about this:

What would you guys think about a policy on short, 24-hour bans as a way of trying to diffuse potential shitstorms?  Say an argument sparks up that starts getting really heated and personal.  Would it be a bad idea to step in and ban the offending user(s) for a single day to sort of force them to take a step back and calm themselves down?  That way, we could sort of get in ahead of the game before things get more out of hand and more drastic actions need to be taken. 

Obviously, I'm not talking about banning someone anytime they argue with someone else.  I'm talking about extreme cases where it looks like things could easily get a lot worse if left unchecked.  For example, that incident a few days ago where RobotMonkeyHead completely lost his shit over something Rajaa said.  That got really ugly really quickly, and I wonder if it couldn't have been made easier if the people in question were made to stop posting altogether and take some time to collect themselves.

What do you think?  Is that too much?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 12, 2013, 10:48:08 pm
6 months: This i believe should be the longest expiring ban we have. This would come from shock images, posting illegal software intentionally in a way designed to actually get it out there.
Would that be the only things that would warrant such a ban? Because if so, I don't really like it.

What do you think?  Is that too much?
Hmm, I think it's a bit too much.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 12, 2013, 11:29:45 pm
Keep HJK banned.

3 days: This should be the slap on the wrist for a first offence after due warning or for a more serious first offence (i'm mostly thinking in terms of illegal software or porn for this side of things)
1 week: you've had the 3 day ban, you've just continued your faults after coming back, we are serious
1 month: For properly serious offences like harassment or spam from users who were normal up to this point.

Sounds alright.

6 months: This i believe should be the longest expiring ban we have. This would come from shock images, posting illegal software intentionally in a way designed to actually get it out there.

Something like that should warrant a perma ban.

I also want multi-accountting to be ban worthy. Don'tlike the current model of: "Oh lol, you had multiple accounts. It's alright, we'regonna merge them and act like you're not a douchebag!". It's basically giving people one consequence-free chance to do something stupid.

What do you think?  Is that too much?

Yes. Stopping a 'potential' shitstorm is babysitting, not moderating. If you think a discussion is heading in the wrong direction then split + merge + think of a witty title for the shit thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 12, 2013, 11:36:07 pm
I'm only posting suggestions. I am stating a ban people can come back from and thinking about what would constitute an offence serious enough to achieve that. I don't see shitposting as the same problem the rest of you do as it doesn't annoy me nearly as much.

Talk around, change the lengths, decide what should merit those lengths. Then we can post a little guidance thread for all of us so when someone breaks a rule and it's going to get them banned we look at the list and apply the sensible option. That way nobody should be querying how long a ban is, or should be. Stupid things like 8 months, or 2 years etc. If someone is getting banned for 2 years it might as well be permanent. How much should a ban evasion extend a 3 day ban for, or a 1 week. That sort of shit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 12, 2013, 11:38:59 pm
It's basically giving people one consequence-free chance to do something stupid.
I don't think it's that bad to give people something like this. If they keep doing it, then we'll just ban them. People make mistakes, and if they learn from them, they become better people.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 12, 2013, 11:47:30 pm
It's basically giving people one consequence-free chance to do something stupid.
I don't think it's that bad to give people something like this. If they keep doing it, then we'll just ban them. People make mistakes, and if they learn from them, they become better people.

Suuuuuuuure. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1390008)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 13, 2013, 12:37:42 am
Suuuuuuuure. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1390008)
I'd rather we err on the side of caution. If 99% of people who make an alt account end up going nuts later on down the line, then I'd still think it was the right thing to do (not banning them for the alt account thing, that is).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 13, 2013, 01:41:26 am
Your constant opposition to every decision is more obnoxious than it is helpful. You can let the gimmick go, we will still like you if you don't oppose everything.

Really?  Expecting all of us to follow the same procedure and apply the rules fairly and equally to everyone is obnoxious?

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 13, 2013, 07:18:58 am
That's not what I said at all. I'm not sure if you're now doing your oblivious gimmick, or if you can't understand that I said that your constant, never-failing gimmick to oppose everything is obnoxious, not following procedure. Can't see how anyone could twist those words you just quoted. =/
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 13, 2013, 03:32:12 pm
I have never made a secret that I think a ban should only be used as a last resort.  I think this staff bans too quickly and for unreasonable lengths.  I think there has been a shift towards mean and nasty, and a cliquish community where perceived unlikable people are run off.  I'm not saying this place IS that way, I said I'm seeing a shift towards that.  And every time I see it, I think the cool kids found another Piggy.

It takes more work to correct behavior that is damaging the community and that should start with the staff.  We ban someone for 3 days and discuss if it should be longer and we do that for every single ban.  We need to discourage "shit poster" comments, we need to discourage "ban this person" demands, and we shouldnt allow "worst poster" polls.

 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 13, 2013, 04:41:01 pm
Shift toward nasty? Let me give you an example of how you're wrong:

Take this topic for example:
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/leaving-so-soon-148069.0.html

Two years ago, if that topic was made, especially with a user with that history, the topic starter would get a bunch of sarcastic replies about how no one cares and how it's better to leave in the shadows. Instead, we have people being courteous and acknowledging. Shift toward nasty?

I remember when someone would get bashed until oblivion for warehouses (I slightly remember), but here people are even posting their warehouses so others can use them and help each other. http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/mugen-websites-2013-147009.0.html

We have new users like can and C.A.N, G.o.D, Erroratu,a dn CVSBN who are trying their best to be helpful for no other reason than just to be helpful (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1714969). People being encouraging. People caring (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1712948). People contributing and getting recognized by their peers (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/contributor-suggestion-thread-63986.msg1715315.html#new). What else do you want?

Because a few users like HJK come along once in a while and nest for a few days or months, act horrible, and then get banned MONTHS later, things are shifting toward nasty? Staff is being too quick to ban? Are you serious? HJK had 5 years to change, got more than his share of chances. What else do you think is gonna happen that will make him change? That will make anyone change after that amount of time with not even a little change?

Sure, a couple of us staff members, including I, have acted out recently, but those are mostly one time things and the general user base knows it's wrong because they called us out on our shit. Iced stopped editing people profiles for humor, GOH stopped telling people to die, Jmorphman won't post porn anymore, and I won't go too far with my jokes. Users are not following us because they are also the ones that recognized our faults.

People will always say that a user should be banned -- this has never affected staff decisions on banning someone, and I can't think of any examples of when it did. I doubt that you can.

You can't excuse your annoying, obnoxious gimmicks by saying, "You are all becoming nasty, I'm trying to save the community." You aren't doing anything, actually. What exactly are you doing to contribute to the community? Nagging staff? Making posts in the All That's Left Section? You're pointing fingers at everyone else becoming nasty and not doing anything to help, and you haven't done anything even remotely significant - at all - ever. So what's your deal? You're basically just a needle in a lion's paw.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 13, 2013, 05:02:52 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Try again, and this time have the maturity to disagree and discuss without resorting to personal insults.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 13, 2013, 09:03:01 pm
Personal insults? Are you serious? There are no insults, there are comments on your personal behavior, which is the whole subject of this conversation. Maybe next time YOU can have the maturity to read faults about your own self without being personally insulted to the point of being offended.

You're just avoiding every point in my post because you can't find a counter argument for them, especially for the part about you complaining about making the community better, and you yourself having done absolutely nothing to contribute to it being better.

Or I may be wrong, this may just be your "oblivious, I don't care, I'm a troll" gimmick; who even knows anymore.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 13, 2013, 09:21:31 pm
I have never made a secret that I think a ban should only be used as a last resort.  I think this staff bans too quickly and for unreasonable lengths.  I think there has been a shift towards mean and nasty, and a cliquish community where perceived unlikable people are run off.  I'm not saying this place IS that way, I said I'm seeing a shift towards that.  And every time I see it, I think the cool kids found another Piggy.
It is something that we need to pay a great deal of attention towards, but... I honestly don't think that the staff has anything to do with that. I'm not even sure if the community as a whole is being more cliquey; I sort of feel like it has, but I think that's just because I've become more aware of the existing cliquishness then anything else.

Jmorphman won't post porn anymore
That wasn't porn.

IT WAS SEXUALLY EXPLICIT CONTENT >:[
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 13, 2013, 10:32:45 pm
I dont think the staff is causing the cliquishness, but I dont think we are helping move away from it either.  Some people are always going to see  "us vs them" when it comes to staff and if we always follow the same procedure of 3 day ban and discuss it will cut down on us giving the appearance of being biased.  Nothing will make us all think the same way or do away with our biases, but following procedure IS important.



Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 13, 2013, 10:44:49 pm
I do completely agree that we need to follow the procedures we agreed upon for all cases, no matter what. And for cases like hjk, where the poster is pretty much contained and not a real "threat" as it were, I think we should post here about banning them before the 3 day ban (I forget if this is what we agreed to as well)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 13, 2013, 10:58:08 pm
I dont know as we agreed to discuss bans before the ban.  I guess if several of us happen to be on and see whats going on and it's contained....   

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 13, 2013, 11:00:18 pm
I do completely agree that we need to follow the procedures we agreed upon for all cases, no matter what. And for cases like hjk, where the poster is pretty much contained and not a real "threat" as it were, I think we should post here about banning them before the 3 day ban (I forget if this is what we agreed to as well)

I don't think it's necessary to deliberate over the preliminary ban.  If we start running back to confer with everyone before we do every little thing, we'll never get anything done.  That's why it's only set at 3 days.  So we can make that judgement call, and then come back to determine how to proceed from there.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 13, 2013, 11:20:57 pm
i will take this moment to point out that yall still havent decided if hes getting permabanned or not, or if not, the lenght of his ban.
You should be less worried about arguing procedure and more worried about actually ACTING OUT and doing stuff, imo.
2 pages of arguing about preliminary bans, even if i agree that procedure should be followed, doesnt exempt anyone from taking part into arguing the ACTUAL ban.
Cmon.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 13, 2013, 11:27:24 pm
I didn't?  I thought I had.  Well then, yeah, permaban HJK.  He is terrible for the sake of being terrible, and he clearly has no intention of ever changing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 13, 2013, 11:27:40 pm
I do NOT think he deserves a permaban for spamming in the shit thread.  I know me saying a week is unreasonable, but I don't think he deserves a permaban
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 13, 2013, 11:32:20 pm
It is NOT just for what happened in the shit thread.  Stop trying to claim that it is.  It's the result of everything he's been doing for a very long time.  He constantly tries to start fights in every thread he posts in, he frequently posts unwarranted, unprovoked attacks on other users just to cause a reaction, and he has a history of making multiple fake accounts for the express purpose of trolling that stretches back literally for years.

Frankly I don't understand how he wasn't permabanned years ago.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on February 13, 2013, 11:38:35 pm
I thought our new system would be that we ban for a short time and discuss long term bans first, with no long term bans outside of extreme cases. That way sounds like a good system to me. HJK's ban is set for 388 days from now, that's a bit long to be considered a 'preliminary ban'. The problem with something like this is I don't feel like he should be banned permanently, but I know when he comes back it won't take long for him to go back to stuff like this. In fact that was his whole gimmick last time he was banned. Plus there was all those attempts at ban evasion. I wouldn't object to a permanent ban for him.

Even after what I said about preliminary bans, if he isn't gonna be gone for good the time you have set coincidentally seems reasonable for his offenses. Getting a consensus beforehand still seems like a better idea though. I'm mixed on that too because I do trust yall to make good judgment calls. Maybe there's a compromise in here somewhere.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 13, 2013, 11:40:49 pm
I do NOT think he deserves a permaban for spamming in the shit thread.  I know me saying a week is unreasonable, but I don't think he deserves a permaban

why are you ignoring the subject and just focusing on what he did last?
What are you trying to do ?

Thats like saying Navana was banned over lying to people once.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 13, 2013, 11:43:15 pm
I dont think the staff is causing the cliquishness, but I dont think we are helping move away from it either.  Some people are always going to see  "us vs them" when it comes to staff and if we always follow the same procedure of 3 day ban and discuss it will cut down on us giving the appearance of being biased.  Nothing will make us all think the same way or do away with our biases, but following procedure IS important.




Yeah, continue to ignore my points

I have gotten two messages from two different users who agree that all you do is nag about things -- every single time we make a decision -- and you contribute absolutely nothing to the forum, and thus, nothing to Mugen, in any way whatsoever. I don't know if they want me to quote them yet or if they're speak for themselves, but I'll wait on it. For the time being:

You don't participate in Mugen projects (not the section, actual projects)
You don't participate in the Mugen sections
You don't participate in Mugen contests or artwork regarding Mugen
You don't participate in helping people learn Mugen
You have NEVER participated in ANY of those things outside of some measly commentary about once or twice a month, and if it's more than that, then it's still not often enough because I can't see it happening.

What you actually do is:

Oppose every decision made by staff as if you have the golden rule book of how things should be run.
Oppose every action made by staff as a gimmick because you enjoy being the opponent.
Act oblivious to situations when you know absolutely well what's going on.
Make posts in the all that's left section that are either you acting oblivious or you actually being oblivious.
Oppose staff some more on completely legitimate actions like banning members who have offended the forum for what seems to be a decade.
Tells us the community is becoming mean, while the community is actually becoming better and provides no examples to support your claim.
Tell us that you're pointing out our meanness shift so the forum won't get mean while contributing nothing but nag, nag, nag and no action or participation in Mugen or actually making the forum better.

I mean this with all due respect, you are quite useless in a Mugen community. I can't think of any reason why you would even want to BE in a Mugen community, and I should be able to think of a legitimate reason that involves something even remotely related to Mugen.

Stop trying to wiggle your way out of the discussion by labeling me immature. Actually, I am very mature, and you can't sit there and actually believe that I am being immature right now while you're on some grand pedestal. The fact is that you're not better than anyone here, and you don't get to just label somebody wrong or childish while maintaining some false sense of respect and leverage over who even knows what.

Quite frankly, I actually don't want you to be a staff member anymore. You don't represent anything. No one can go to your for any type of help related to anything that is related to the point of this forum. I don't know how this makes me look, but it's pretty much what I think and it has nothing to do with power or whatever else youbor anyone else wants to make it about. It's simply, just, like, why? Why?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 13, 2013, 11:44:24 pm
I don't think it's necessary to deliberate over the preliminary ban.  If we start running back to confer with everyone before we do every little thing, we'll never get anything done.
I mean for people like celest or hjk, not like that one guy who was spamming the forum with 1.1 beta links. The latter is much rarer and should be acted on immediately, but I don't see any harm in discussing a ban for people like hjk. But I guess it's not really that important.

i will take this moment to point out that yall still havent decided if hes getting permabanned or not, or if not, the lenght of his ban.
You should be less worried about arguing procedure and more worried about actually ACTING OUT and doing stuff, imo.
Most everyone had agreed on a permaban. In fact I thought we had already decided on that, hence the discussion. Don't get your panties in a twist. >.>

I do NOT think he deserves a permaban for spamming in the shit thread.
OK, how about his behavior over the last five years? Or maybe his registering of multiple alternate accounts in order to spam? Doesn't that warrant a permaban?

He has shown, time after time after time, that he will not improve. He'll continue doing the same shit over and over again. If we don't permaban him, he will come back, do the same shit again, then get banned again. And it will go on and on.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 14, 2013, 12:13:38 am
It is NOT just for what happened in the shit thread.  Stop trying to claim that it is.  It's the result of everything he's been doing for a very long time.  He constantly tries to start fights in every thread he posts in, he frequently posts unwarranted, unprovoked attacks on other users just to cause a reaction, and he has a history of making multiple fake accounts for the express purpose of trolling that stretches back literally for years.

Frankly I don't understand how he wasn't permabanned years ago.

 Unprovoked attacks and multiple fake accounts are acceptable reasons for a lengthy ban, I have a differing opinion about what you see as "starting fights" though.   And I will admit  I'm defensive about this ban because it didn't follow procedure....so I will stop claiming  it was because what happened in the shit thread. 

That doesnt mean I have to like it you understand.


Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 14, 2013, 12:44:39 am
then elucidate us on how he wasnt starting fights,  shouldnt be banned and what should get him banned.
dont be coy , if you are going to say something say it to the end.

We are not talking about someone that the staff never dealt with , this is hjk, the guy with over five accounts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 14, 2013, 12:57:44 am
I just said that the unprovoked attacks and multiple accounts were valid reasons for a lengthy ban.  And I don't see his liking to debate a variety of things as picking fights. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 14, 2013, 01:00:24 am
he is literally bringing up posts from months ago as proof that people are stupid and he manipulated them into admitting their stupidity.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 14, 2013, 01:39:51 am
How about this, then:  You tell us.  Where do you draw the line, Miss B?  How many years of obnoxious trolling is too many?  How many bannings for repeatedly breaking pretty much every rule this forum has are needed before you'll raise the red flag?  How many 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 89th chances do you think someone like HJK should get before you're comfortable saying that it's not worth all of the trouble of waiting around and hoping he'll behave next time?

When, in your own opinion, is enough going to be enough?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 14, 2013, 01:43:49 am
It is NOT just for what happened in the shit thread.  Stop trying to claim that it is.  It's the result of everything he's been doing for a very long time.  He constantly tries to start fights in every thread he posts in, he frequently posts unwarranted, unprovoked attacks on other users just to cause a reaction, and he has a history of making multiple fake accounts for the express purpose of trolling that stretches back literally for years.

Frankly I don't understand how he wasn't permabanned years ago.

 Unprovoked attacks and multiple fake accounts are acceptable reasons for a lengthy ban, I have a differing opinion about what you see as "starting fights" though.   And I will admit  I'm defensive about this ban because it didn't follow procedure....so I will stop claiming  it was because what happened in the shit thread. 

That doesnt mean I have to like it you understand.




Why are you ignoring my posts? What is wrong with you? You can't take it when someone tells you how you are simply not necessary, but you have no problem telling other people when they aren't? You think you're not capable of improvement because you are already the best human being possible? Please tell me.

All you do is this. This right here. What's happening now is all you do. Make us argue about something that shouldn't even be a question. This is the only thing you contribute. You are not "keeping us on our toes," you are being obnoxious and annoying.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on February 14, 2013, 02:04:13 am
I thought our new system would be that we ban for a short time and discuss long term bans first, with no long term bans outside of extreme cases. That way sounds like a good system to me. HJK's ban is set for 388 days from now, that's a bit long to be considered a 'preliminary ban'. The problem with something like this is I don't feel like he should be banned permanently, but I know when he comes back it won't take long for him to go back to stuff like this. In fact that was his whole gimmick last time he was banned. Plus there was all those attempts at ban evasion. I wouldn't object to a permanent ban for him.

Even after what I said about preliminary bans, if he isn't gonna be gone for good the time you have set coincidentally seems reasonable for his offenses. Getting a consensus beforehand still seems like a better idea though. I'm mixed on that too because I do trust yall to make good judgment calls. Maybe there's a compromise in here somewhere.

right, the discussion was whether immediately banning was out of procedure (which it was agreed to be), but i am not seeing a compromise since he is gonna be gone for good (which most agreed to)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 14, 2013, 02:11:15 am
How about this, then:  You tell us.  Where do you draw the line, Miss B?  How many years of obnoxious trolling is too many?  How many bannings for repeatedly breaking pretty much every rule this forum has are needed before you'll raise the red flag?  How many 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 89th chances do you think someone like HJK should get before you're comfortable saying that it's not worth all of the trouble of waiting around and hoping he'll behave next time?

When, in your own opinion, is enough going to be enough?


I said twice now, this makes 3 times  that the unprovoked attacks and multiple accounts were valid reasons for a lengthy ban.  I'm not arguing against the ban.  I was arguing against the way it was carried out and that seems to be settled now. 



Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 14, 2013, 04:05:33 am
I'm going to bring mine back up again.

3 days is the slap on the wrist. 99% of people can come straight back after this. Unless the offence is incredibly serious any of us should be happy enough to do this without an argument.
What are our other "defined lengths" I don't like applying ad hoc bans of random lengths for similar offences, it's inconsistent and stupid. Lets come up with some time limits for regular bans that actually have a defined length.

Any permanent ban must be discussed during those 3 days. If we can't agree on permanent it becomes one of the other ban options. 1 week, fortnight, month, 3 months, whatever. If we look at a year ban we're basically saying permanent so that's pretty pointless.

So for your input. What warrants more than 3 days. What warrants the longest as yet undefined time anyone should be banned as consequences for their actions.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 14, 2013, 04:17:39 am
I've been thinking about this since you brought it up.  Are you saying if we decide posting  (whatever) is worth a 1 month ban, then any of us should automatically give that person a 1 month ban?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on February 14, 2013, 04:21:51 am
it means 3 days is the default ban length, with any extension necessary to be discussed here
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 14, 2013, 04:25:37 am
So for your input. What warrants more than 3 days.
IMO, basically, what you posted, but 6 month bans also being for not only warez and stuff but really disruptive posting and/or repeat offenders of that kind of posting.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 14, 2013, 04:32:26 am
^ Shouldnt we also be taking into consideration length of time between repeat offences? 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on February 14, 2013, 04:32:37 am
my problem with that method is that its a little too inflexible for me; you've already mentioned otherwise but the way it comes across its either 3 days or permanent
the ban lengths may seem arbitrary but generally theyre based on the mods' judgement calls for what requires appropriate action- you can assign lengths to offenses, but then it too becomes just as arbitrary: what are the exceptions, if any? does a users action in other sites, does the popular opinion here influence decisions? and so on.



     Posted: February 14, 2013, 04:34:03 am
i do support the short ban thing, by the way
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 14, 2013, 04:37:45 am
^ Shouldnt we also be taking into consideration length of time between repeat offences?
I figure a good rule of thumb would be double the length of the previous ban, or if that exceeds 6 months, then just go with 6 months. If someone has already been banned for 6 months previously, then it'll be a permaban.

my problem with that method is that its a little too inflexible for me; you've already mentioned otherwise but the way it comes across its either 3 days or permanent
Well, it is pretty inflexible, but I think it would make sense as a general guide or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 14, 2013, 04:42:40 am
It's more what ban lengths do we do for certain events if the 3 day slap has no effect. Ie

I post porn. You ban me for it. I return and post porn again. How long am i banned for on this second offence?
I shit post. You ban me for it. I return and continue to shitpost, how long am i banned for
I follow a user round insulting them without engaging in the forum. You ban me for it, i return and repeat, how long am i banned for.

Please note that the repeat may occur any time between day after return and a year down the track. If there is a period of time between first and second offence will the ban length change or stay the same. Obviously repeat offences of the same sort after multiple bans warrant the permaban discussion OR we just continuously ban them for a defined period of time until they stop (although we know this is pointless)

I want to set down where we stand on these lengths so we don't actually need to discuss this stuff as it is honestly a bit of a waste of time. Permabans certainly, regular known first/second offences, no, we should be able to do these without discussing. It shouldn't be 3 days first random period second because that is not consistent when the offences are the same.

I suggested earlier that we have 3 days, 1 week, 1 month, 6 months (this would be the longest expiring ban, beyond this you may as well permanent them) I then ask for opinions on these, whether they should change and what to, and what offences warrant them. We have the rules, lets marry some shit up and decide, it'll make our job simpler.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 14, 2013, 04:50:28 am
I'm still not sure.  It's really hard to pin down exact numbers here, because every case is going to be different.  Is it a user's first offense, or have they been in trouble for the same thing before?  Are they breaking the rules because they honestly don't know any better like celest, or because they're intentionally trying to start trouble like HJK?  There's a million little things that should be considered.  It's too big of a gray area to be able to definitively say "doing X will always get you Y."

I think the best way to go about it would be to use the three day ban to look at each instance as its own case, rather than trying to look up the appropriate bullet point on a list.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 14, 2013, 04:55:04 am
But there is no reason to treat it like that. If it is a users first offence it's 3 days. We've established that. Why must bans be some obscure number of days based on anything else? If it's 3 days and they repeat the same offence, it's a week. If it's 3 days and they do a different offence, 3 days. If it's 3 days and then they repeat it 3 months down the track is it still a week or another 3 days or an increase to a fortnight. I don't like applying abitrary lengths to this stuff.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 14, 2013, 08:44:48 am
It's really shitty that Missbhaven is just ignoring my posts as if I'm "trolling" her or insulting her or as if she's too good. Address my posts and stop weaseling out by replying to every other post besides mine.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Koop on February 14, 2013, 10:59:19 am
But there is no reason to treat it like that. If it is a users first offence it's 3 days. We've established that. Why must bans be some obscure number of days based on anything else? If it's 3 days and they repeat the same offence, it's a week. If it's 3 days and they do a different offence, 3 days. If it's 3 days and then they repeat it 3 months down the track is it still a week or another 3 days or an increase to a fortnight. I don't like applying abitrary lengths to this stuff.

Agreed.



I think we need to have lower tolerance on repeat offenders. I like the idea of a first offence being a 3 day ban. If need be, we can discuss the nature of the offence and increase it if necessary. I think if User X's first offence is constantly harrassing User Y, then they come back after 3 days and start "shit posting" we need to take into consideration that they have been banned before and increase the duration of their ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 14, 2013, 04:11:36 pm
Just to make it clear, the first offense slap on the wrist 3 day time out is after a couple of verbal warnings, right?   As much as I'd like to have some sort of set formula for warn/ban/perma, it's going to be way too subjective, especially if we have a lot of differing ban length.

I'd like 3 day, week, month.  If you get three 1 month bans, then perma.

Alternate accounts automatically double the ban length.

The 3 day and 1 week bans are mandatory, first 1 month ban is eligible for "parole" if the person contacts staff.

Sexually explicit and illegal posts as described in the rules should be an automatic 3 days.  So we would have to agree on the difference between NSFW and sexually explicit/porn.



 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 14, 2013, 04:25:44 pm
It's completely unacceptable for you to just ignore my posts like that. I don't like you anymore.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 14, 2013, 04:42:21 pm
But I still like you and want to buy you dinner.  I just dont respond to what I see as bullying, badgering, aggressive, insulting language.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Now what about Cyanide's proposals?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 14, 2013, 04:54:11 pm
My posts are none of those things and just no. Stop.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 14, 2013, 09:07:28 pm
NSFW is either nude, or scantily clad. Anything that could be construed as sexual behaviour, either penetration or masturbation should be counted as porn. Ditto for the more horrible stuff like scat guro or vore.

This is SLIGHTLY discounted for joke character releases as naked crazy joe was well labeled and really really funny. I would not accept a character who was really just a slideshow of porn photos.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 14, 2013, 09:47:21 pm
rajaa
Someone not making stuff for mugen doesnt mean they are "useless" or "worthless". Sepp, valodim,titiln,  even oz or person man are good examples of people that either gave up on mugen fast, or never "Made" stuff for mugen. That didnt made them any less of staff members whose opinions should be taken in consideration.
You can argue your points without attempting to belittle her, and I understand you are frustated with her vague answers. I was as well when replying yesterday.
Missb has at several times reminded us of things we sometimes dont take that much into consideration, people should
Talking to people with two bricks in each hand is as bad as not taking them seriously at all.

Missb
You cant possibly think you can say something as vague as "oh you people call that starting fights? I have another opinion!" and then refuse to talk about what you were talking about. it doesnt work like that.
All that vagueness coupled with the joking way you reacted to it can only make people overreact. As you seem to be saying "I disagree with you, but whatever." Both person man and me were miffled about it, and I think that we are rightly so. you cant be that vague . You are being frustating there.
 


I agree that more of a procedure should have been followed but you are caring more about the procedure than to actually clean up the board.  The end result was still arguing about what should be done after, yes he was banned for 13 months instead of the 3 days, you can blame that on me, I told goh to multiply the spam number per months. But we still reunited here to argue about it after.
Theres such a thing as too much formality.

I understand that you agree with the ban but were mad at the lack of procedure, but you were being way too vague about it, thats what was causing the disagreement. 

I really hate having to control arguments like these.

Cyanide.

As for bans i dont think we should have set times for reincidences. every case should be handled on its own, otherwise you have people that get banned for a week, come back, do the same, get banned for two weeks, come back, do the same, etc. if someone is that quick to reincide you should actually discuss the subject and see what can be done to fix it, or just drop the person straight up.

our old nsfw rules are fine, imo.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 14, 2013, 10:04:09 pm
OK, why don't we wrap up this hjk thing? We've all basically agreed on a permaban, right? I mean, besides MissB ;P

So, uh, I guess I'll do it later tonight if nobody objects to it?

NSFW is either nude, or scantily clad. Anything that could be construed as sexual behaviour, either penetration or masturbation should be counted as porn. Ditto for the more horrible stuff like scat guro or vore.

This is SLIGHTLY discounted for joke character releases as naked crazy joe was well labeled and really really funny.
That seems a little... arbitrary? :embarrassed2:

Why do we even need to change the NSFW rules? Mild nudity that is marked NSFW is fine. Hardcore stuff is not. I think an automatic ban, with no warning for anything but a shock image is going a bit too far. Warnings should be issued in almost every case except, I dunno, if someone is spamming the forum or something.

As for bans i dont think we should have set times for reincidences. every case should be handled on its own, otherwise you have people that get banned for a week, come back, do the same, get banned for two weeks, come back, do the same, etc. if someone is that quick to reincide you should actually discuss the subject and see what can be done to fix it, or just drop the person straight up.
Every case should be handled on its own, yes, but I think it would help if we had a set of basic guidelines as to what a fair ban length would be. And then we could decide whether that guide should be changed or not depending on the specific circumstances.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 14, 2013, 10:12:15 pm
Someone asked what porn was. I was simply defining it. Not saying what the ban should be or even if the ban should be instant. Just that that's the difference between porn and simple nsfw stuff.

We're not a porn site, i will accept that the occasional spriter posts something naked or that there are really scanty pics, and i have no problem or issue with them being posted and labeled. But things like YOUR picture from before are porn and shouldn't be posted full stop. That's the difference.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 14, 2013, 10:15:47 pm
If that Onion picture is porn, then so is Naked Crazy Joe. I don't see why it being "really really funny" would make it OK. That's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 14, 2013, 10:19:39 pm
that "onion pic" has someone being fisted, if you need someone to explain why a mspaint penis being labeled nwsf and having its image sspoilered is ok but a "funny pic of gods being fisted" is not something that should be under a spoiler ( you didnt put it under a spoiler either ) then I dont know what to tell you
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 14, 2013, 10:23:21 pm
that "onion pic" has someone being fisted
And Naked Crazy Joe has unspoiled pictures of anal rape.

( you didnt put it under a spoiler either )
Uh, yes, I did. It was spoiled and marked NSFW. There is of course a difference in scale, but NCJ still would fit the "hardcore" portion of the rules, IMO.

oh boy this argument is starting up again
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 14, 2013, 10:27:09 pm
The character, not the thread.

There tons of "sexy ko" chars being announced all the time with small warnings of the content.
If someone knows what they are downloading , I Dont really care. The char isnt being pushed onto them like a pornographic picture would.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 14, 2013, 10:29:32 pm
The character, not the thread.
No, the thread has those pictures in the very first post, unspoiled. I think I should clarify, the fact that NCJ has those images unspoiled and that's OK is the issue I'm having.

If someone knows what they are downloading , I Dont really care. The char isnt being pushed onto them like a pornographic picture would.
Wait, what? It's kind of the same thing, but one takes long to view.

and what's this about pushing
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 14, 2013, 10:31:22 pm
Link me then. I never saw a thread with those unspoiled.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 14, 2013, 10:33:56 pm
ok apparently my memory was off and they were spoiled (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/naked-crazy-joe-xxx-88609.0.html) :ninja:

I could've sworn... whatever, it's still anal rape and I dunno if we should remove the images or what
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 14, 2013, 10:36:31 pm
I just looked at the CNJ thread, I'm not sure my mom would be able to SEE that erect penis let alone know what was going on. But I know without a doubt she would have seen the Onion pic.  Yes, I judge what should be posted (even in a spoiler) by the mom test.

But we can probably debate if something is borderline when it comes up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 14, 2013, 10:37:57 pm
But we can probably debate if something is borderline when it comes up.
Yeah, that sounds good.

Not like this happens very often anyway.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 14, 2013, 10:51:54 pm
NCJ was spoilered from day 1.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 15, 2013, 12:55:01 am
rajaa
Someone not making stuff for mugen doesnt mean they are "useless" or "worthless". Sepp, valodim,titiln,  even oz or person man are good examples of people that either gave up on mugen fast, or never "Made" stuff for mugen. That didnt made them any less of staff members whose opinions should be taken in consideration.
You can argue your points without attempting to belittle her, and I understand you are frustated with her vague answers. I was as well when replying yesterday.
Missb has at several times reminded us of things we sometimes dont take that much into consideration, people should
Talking to people with two bricks in each hand is as bad as not taking them seriously at all.
That's not the reason she's useless. She's useless because she doesn't do anything but cause arguments over stuff that doesn't need to be argued. -- and only regarding decisions the staff makes. She thinks she's some golden trophy that tells everyone how they should act -- and she acts clueless too much. It's ridiculous. I don't like it. Then she acts as if she's too good to reply - acts all coy as if she doesn't need to reply to us, even though we're all on the same team and doing the same thing. And if anyone dares to call her out, they're immature or insulting, even though they aren't.

I wasn't belittling her, I was calling her out on how she makes ridiculous claims about how we're becoming horrible and how she needs to question and nag everything and everyone because we're coming horrible and she's the one person who can do this and make everything right -- by nagging and challenging everything. It reminds me of certain individuals who are trying to save the Mugen community by making insulting videos about people in the community. It's been her running gimmick since forever now and it's annoying and obnoxious.

Staff bans user for being really bad for more than 5 months straight (in this case, 5 years)
MBH complains about unfairness and makes the same argument about something involving a constitution
MBH gets replied to
MBH acts coy and doesn't answer questions directly
Nothing changes and all she has accomplished is making us debate and discuss something that didn't need to be debated in the first place.
Wash, rinse, repeat
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 15, 2013, 04:25:52 am
OK, hjk is now banned forever.

Explain? That went way over my head...  :dizzy2:
RIP
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 17, 2013, 07:31:27 pm
im kinda losing my patience, but i dont think he has done anything meriting staff action as of YET.

Duckss has posted 21 posts in the last hour alone, most of them hardly make sense. should we do anything?  I dunno, train him to post better or something? Its not like he is a bad person or anything, but he doesnt seem to know what he should post on the internet and what he shouldnt.
I already stopped him talking about hentai and talking about hentai he likes to draw.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 17, 2013, 07:37:17 pm
Way to steal my thunder, I was about to post about Duck.

So uh yeah he's an odd one. I agree that he does not merit staff action right now, but I'm not sure how we can get him to post better. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 17, 2013, 07:40:35 pm
Send him a pm with suggestions? (yes I did that)  he's in quite a few different threads, he might not see posts to him in those threads until he's off in the next one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 17, 2013, 08:59:28 pm
Message I sent him yesterday:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

And he said he'd stop, and he apparently has. But yeah, he is super annoying because his posts don't make any sense and he posts a lot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 18, 2013, 01:24:16 am
I don't know.  I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt before because he couldn't really speak english, like, at all when he was first starting out.  But now it seems like even though he (mostly) knows what to say, he still doesn't understand how to act.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 18, 2013, 05:56:46 am
Someone is cruising for a bruising. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1718826)

     Posted: February 18, 2013, 06:01:26 am
aaaaand he's outta here.

Three days, as he was gonna keep up the personal attacks and stuff. I don't know if this really requires a longer ban, I'm unclear on his history.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 18, 2013, 06:02:12 am
He's a cynical jerk. That would have went on for days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 18, 2013, 06:05:46 am
Known for ban evasion too.

Aside from making it more obvious that you were staff, 3 days pretty justified for immensely shitty attitude.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 18, 2013, 06:07:25 am
Aside from making it more obvious that you were staff, 3 days pretty justified for immensely shitty attitude.
What do you want me to wear a sign? A badge? I ain't paying for that! >:[

so uh yeah hopefully this will cool him off and stuff
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 18, 2013, 06:16:45 am
You have a badge.

"See the star? It means i'm a mod, that was an order, not a recommendation"

THEN you ban him. If he responds as he did. We have a number of stars and people don't always read the rules. Ban completely justified regardless of anything, if you're going to assert your authoritah, make it obvious which authoritah that is.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 18, 2013, 06:18:37 am
I was just joking :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 18, 2013, 06:19:36 am
Authirtah?

 Also, Zeroz knew Jmorphman was a moderator when he received his order, he's just a loose cannon who doesn't care. But yeah, it doesn't hurt to wave your badge around. =p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 18, 2013, 06:32:09 am
You will respect mah authoritah!

Seriously? You don't see the southpark reference? You need to watch some southpark

Val: Please stop banned people using the report section.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 18, 2013, 11:50:55 am
Three days.  That attitude is uncalled for.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 18, 2013, 12:22:56 pm
always ban from signing up as well. no i dont care that you want to keep sending pms while you are banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 18, 2013, 03:19:38 pm

Val: Please stop banned people using the report section.

Yes, Val please.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/all-that-s-left-re-nsfw-cosplay-can-be-hot-or-not-148394.msg1719095.html#new
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 18, 2013, 03:40:52 pm
Wow, what an asshole.  Three days sounds fair for now.  If he comes back and starts stirring things up again, then we should probably look at something more long-term.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 18, 2013, 08:00:34 pm
Val: Please stop banned people using the report section.
If the "cannot login" option is checked, they shouldn't be able to, right?

always ban from signing up as well. no i dont care that you want to keep sending pms while you are banned.
Well, I only checked the "cannot post" option because it's like a test or something. I did the same with celest (and he got another week for abusing the report section) And so too did Mr. Poopface use the report section to make a snide comment about how syn is totally making it up you guys.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on February 19, 2013, 08:23:09 pm
I sent Soknasful a PM:

I noticed a couple of posts you've made recently, such as this one:

Why not anyone make Poison?
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4y90iGTVV1qd4q8ao1_400.gif)

Which was in someone's release topic. Posting things like that is rude to the creator and off topic. Also I saw this post you've made in wrestling recently:

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/340/a/0/spy_gamnam_style_by_denz999-d5n9nba.png)

That post is off topic and posting like that often would not be good for the forums. Please try to stay on topic in the threads you are posting in. Thank you. :)

Posting it here for transparency purposes.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 22, 2013, 04:06:07 am
Looks like someone is double account-ing!:

mugenguild.com/forum/profile/foxdieex-81369

Note: I think 'Isaiah' was Stormex's registration name (can't check on mobile).

They both have their birth year ('92) as part of their mails.

Stormex was quite interested in becoming a staff member some time ago.

His banned brother's account was also fox themed.

Neither of these idiots knows the difference between 'since' and 'sense'.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 22, 2013, 06:03:21 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/hey-family-148104.msg1712621.html#msg1712621


      Posted: February 22, 2013, 10:00:17 am
Probably an alternate account of StormEX's. Don't understand why he keeps doing that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 22, 2013, 01:23:31 pm
his banned brother account was called FOXY
this guy is called foxyex
he is called stormex
both are named isaiah and the same age
i dont even
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 22, 2013, 01:33:57 pm
Does he think we don't notice? We always notice.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 22, 2013, 05:23:26 pm
People think all they have to do is change their IP addresses and email addresses.

Does anyone think he deserves some sort of punishment for repeating this?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 22, 2013, 05:42:52 pm
Is there any way to tell if that account has been used for any voting?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 22, 2013, 11:25:45 pm
i vote we permaban him, to teach him a lesson. Then we take it off again 24 hours later.

Leave a message like "We know what you did last summer" or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 23, 2013, 05:14:08 pm
Banned Axking for 3 days: http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/axkingsxrevengex-79438

He was initially banned because he was a Nazi, preaching hate and supporting Hitler and generally being the epitome of a horrible person. He made an alternate account to get around his initial ban, and we let it slide.

He had a Swaztika in as his personal texts for a while on his alternate account (the current one), we let it slide.

At one point during his alternate account (still the current one), he tried to start up the Hitler train again. We let it slide(?).

He's now preaching about the bible, god, how being gay is wrong, and about how the end of the world is near because of those aforementioned things. He disobeyed my direct orders to not do so, I gave hime sufficient amount of warnings, sent one in a message to insure he got it, and now, less than 24 hours later, he starts it up again. I say he's preaching those things because the videos he posts contain those messages, and those apparently are the messages he thinks need to be relayed to the members of this forum.

If he wants that stuff, he needs to go to a religion forum. We tolerate religious stuff all the time, but the stuff he's attempting is just flame-inducing nonsense.

So, I guess this is where the discussion begins.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 23, 2013, 05:51:15 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava2.png[/avatar]All that religion and conspiracy junk makes him a Grade-A turd, sure, but as far as I know none of that is technically against the rules.  Just very, very annoying.  I would say give him a full week ban for the spamming and for making multiple threads after being repeatedly told not to.  See if he knocks it off when he gets back.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 23, 2013, 06:08:34 pm
Banned Stormex's double account. Are we going to o something wit the original?

I don't mind Axking posting his alarmist and crazy christian videos as long as he does it in the shit thread. Banning him for thread spamming is fine.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 23, 2013, 06:29:16 pm
I banned him for thread spamming, yes, but the content of is posts is just like something HJK would post, only with religion:
"[GOD is the creator, disobey and you will get burned by the stove, you all need to be saved, I am already saved because I read the bible. Discuss.]"

HJK:
"[I'm better than you, so it's up to me to dissect all of your posts and tell you why you're wrong. I am right because I'm going to be a lawyer in 2014. Discuss. Also, what is the meaning of life.]"

And who goes from Nazism and hating Jews, to posting videos of crazy Black people talking about the end of humanity and Satan? Just doesn't make any sense to me. Seems like trouble making nonsense that he himself doesn't even believe and only posts for reactions.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 23, 2013, 07:12:02 pm
I dunno what to do about stormex, has anyone talked to him yet?

I dont get what is going on with Ax, he went from nazi to weird christian type, its starting to make me think that he is just fearmongering. im guessing the gay thing was last night? I just read that thread he posted today.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 24, 2013, 01:21:30 am
more info on the stormex thing
his "brother" account was named "foxy the dancing fox" This one is claimed to be someone he met on facebook or youtube or something right?
Back then both foxyfox and his stormex account had the same ips.  Foxyfox used to get into fights with titiln. I see stormex is getting into fights with titiln just before this new foxyfox showed up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 24, 2013, 04:32:04 am
Back then both foxyfox and his stormex account had the same ips.  Foxyfox used to get into fights with titiln. I see stormex is getting into fights with titiln just before this new foxyfox showed up.
Storm has been getting into fights with Titiln because Titiln has called Storm an idiot many times in the past; futhermore, the old FoxyFox account was clearly not Storm himself because they posted very differently, and also Fox was absolutely bugfuck insane (Storm posted that Fox had been kicked out of the house because he was getting violent or something).

But the new Fox account is obviously Storm so yeah. Cyanide's suggestion sounds good.

I have not read the AxKing stuff yet (I'm already in the hospital and it sounds like it'd make me worse!) but three days sounds fine, and if he spams that stuff outside the shit thread then we can ban him again.

     Posted: February 24, 2013, 04:53:00 am
Wait, this AxKing thing has me confused:I thought he was banned because he was spamming that YouTube video by making new threads with it, but as far as I can tell, he only posted it twice. And wasn't banned until much later, after filling up a few pages of the shit thread. But... that doesn't really seem right? I mean, it wasn't a hjk situation where he was spamming the same sentence over and over, he was still trying to converse with people. I dunno, I don't think I agree with the ban now. :-\

     Posted: February 24, 2013, 04:55:01 am
Oh wait there was one more page, never mind all that :ninja:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Valodim on February 24, 2013, 05:04:08 pm
So axkingbro pm'd me this weekend whether it was okay to post a bible thread. I didn't reply because I wasn't sure of our stance and suspected he just wanted a free pass after having asked someone else, and I had stuff to do so frankly couldn't be arsed to look around this thread.

read up on it a bit now, here's my reply for further reference since I heard he asked other people before and was told not to spam his threads? hope I got the timeline right.

if you were told "no" by someone before, you can't just go to a different guy and ask him the same question hoping for a different answer. that's not how this works.

it's a great strategy asking both your parents this way if you want extra computer time as a child. but at some point, it's time to grow up. sorry :)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 25, 2013, 12:21:06 am
This needs attention:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/capcom-vs-the-world-re-artwork-for-intro-and-other-things-updated-sept-18th-148550.0.html

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/capcom-vs-the-world-re-artwork-for-intro-and-other-things-updated-sept-18th-148551.0.html

Upon returning from his ban from instigating a flamewar with Syn zeroz has imediately tried to start one with Sean.

Also the other mods all should contribute to the discussions at hand.

1-ax
2-stormex
3-zeroz

ax 3 day ban is almost over and pretty much no one contributed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 25, 2013, 12:27:56 am
1.  3 days for spamming threads, not for the content.
2.  Still no answer to my concern earlier if we can tell if the alternate account was being used in any voting.
3.  looking it over.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 25, 2013, 12:33:26 am
There wasnt any voting going on while it was around.  And it wouldnt be able to vote because low post accounts arent able to vote.

1 still needs conversation about what his intent is, or is that irrelevant?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 25, 2013, 12:33:58 am
Ax, let's just let the three day ban run out for one last time. Valodim's response was efficient in its message, and the ban speaks for itself about his actions. I will inform him again when he's able to post that those types of topic presentations are going to be deleted or merged because they are purely instruments of inviting flamewars. Even if he posts that nonsense in the crap thread, he will still get mocked and the forum will look like a horrible place for anyone who randomly reads the topic, but that's mostly other people's fault for responding to his scaremongering.

StormEX. What's this, the second or third time? You'd think he would learn by now that making alternate accounts and talking to his ow self is really quite pathetic. I really don't know what could be done, we don't have many tools at our disposal. Would talking to him change anything? Did it work the first time? I really don't see a change from the last time, considering his recent shenanigans in the CotY thread.

Zeroz. Permanently ban him. He's purely a troublemaker who always has an agenda -- and that's not the bad part, the bad part is that he can't control himself. I saw his profile change yesterday, it was a real-life picture of Seanaltly and his username was Jobber Altly. He changed it himself without a warning. I was too preoccupied to actually do something, especially since I was mobile, and when I checked back, everything seemed to solve itself, so I ultimately decided that I'd just wait until next time, if there is going to be a next time. But since you brought it up, read the first sentence of the paragraph.

      Posted: February 25, 2013, 12:39:23 am
1 still needs conversation about what his intent is, or is that irrelevant?
His posts are too robotic and change ANY comment into something about someone needing help. And the youtube videos about people ruining themselves for having freedom of choice and for being gay? Who posts that on a Mugen forum whilst having good intent?

His intent, from what I've gathered about his random burst of Christianity, and his Nazi past (how does one supersede the other? I'm not sure), is to be obnoxious and cause tension between the users of the forum. All while trying to make himself seem serious by planning "weekend discussions" and  trying to get around direct orders by asking parent #2.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 25, 2013, 12:54:12 am
1.  I would say if someone makes a post mocking religion,  Ax has a right to respond defending his beliefs even if it includes scaremongering and posting bible videos.  But I dont think he should be baiting people with it outside of religious discussions, trying to turn any discussion into a religious discussion, etc.

2.  Lock the account, if he's not doing anything nefarious with it, it's not a big deal.

3. Zeroz isn't going to change.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 25, 2013, 01:48:19 am
I banned that account yesterday.

1-AxKing: let's wait and see. If he acts disruptively after his ban expires we (perma?)ban him again.

2-Stormex: you know how I feel about double accounts. I think he shouldn't go unpunished even if he didn't something notoriously bad (albeit remarkably dumb).

3-Zeros: never noticed his existence until today. If he really is a consummate troublemaker then fine, keep him banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on February 25, 2013, 02:12:37 am
I was gonna suggest just a longer ban for Zeroz since he just got off of a ban for something similar, but apparently there's a lot more going on here with him. Either something really long term or perma.

Ax, small ban. Foxdieex, lock account, pm storm about it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 25, 2013, 02:21:57 am
Stormex, why did you make a second account and acted as if it was a new person you just met?

The account consistently interacted with you, had your name on the emails and the same naming technique as you, it typed like you and did the same typos.  I cant understand why you would make a new account and then say its someone you know from skype .

It went as far as having the same account name as your brother that got banned a few years ago , the one that jumped you .


Why the ruse?
already pmed him , waiting for a reply.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 25, 2013, 03:16:57 am
ax 3 day ban is almost over and pretty much no one contributed.
I did! And I was in the hospital! >:[

I don't think it's a big deal if Ax posts his dumb and warped bible thread shit and his crazy paranoid videos in the shit thread, but only there. Now, I say that not having actually seen said videos so I dunno... but I don't think either subject is one that should be off-limits, as long as it isn't being spammed.

I don't forsee Storm causing many problems, at least after that message.

I banned Zeroz for the standard preliminary 3 days. And his actual ban length should be for some non-insignificant amount of time, depending if he's done this sorta thing before. I'd be comfortable with 1 month if this is only the second time (the first being the syn one), but if this has happened in the past, I think he should be looking at 6.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 25, 2013, 02:53:46 pm
No more than a month this time for Zeroz. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 25, 2013, 11:00:08 pm
Anyone else want to chime in? :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 26, 2013, 02:29:11 am
Is zeroz still going. I mean 3 days is the slap on the wrist. He didn't evade his ban although he did use reports to post bollocks (that's our fault)

Do we actually need to ban him further? No more than a month. I would recommend at max 2 weeks if he's continuing to break rules.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 26, 2013, 02:47:24 am
If he came back from a ban and immediately started in on the same crap again, it's clear he's not taking it seriously and he's not going to shape up.  I say ban him for a month;  Let him know that this is actually serious.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on February 26, 2013, 02:54:49 am
going for a month with zeroz.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 26, 2013, 04:34:00 am
I like a month with Zeroz as well. I also want to note that it's really low to use someone's real photo to make fun of them. Especially as an avatar/nick combo. I feel that is ban worthy on it's own. If he comes back and does it again I say a year after that.

I also want to add that on most of these perma bans I think banning for a year or 2 is good enough. Some users may actually mature over time. I mean I guess they can create a new account in a few years, stay good, and nothing would happen. But except in extremely rare cases I don't like perma bans being given out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 27, 2013, 12:35:31 am
A month it is.

And not 28 days either, just cause it's February!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 27, 2013, 04:24:47 am
Can someone please ban axking again?  His first one expired and he immediately started his bible-thumping homophobic crap again.  I'd do it myself but I'm stuck on mobile Internet and my iPod is being a bitch about it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 27, 2013, 04:40:17 am
I say we simply tell him to stop talking about that. A direct order from a mod. On the grounds that it is upsetting several users and just making a mess.

We don't care what board it is or what thread it is. No "but this" "but that". The topic is stirring up too much so it should just be dropped and we shouldn't have to even tell him to do so.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 27, 2013, 04:50:55 am
I think a ban at this time would be premature. A warning would be better, but... I dunno, I just can't seem to care. Nobody seems to be upset by his ranting, people are mostly laughing at him, and if he keeps it contained to that thread I don't think it's an issue.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 27, 2013, 05:23:01 am
That's the problem, people are laughing at him and bashing him and it just looks absolutely ridiculous because the topic he preaches is really ridiculous.

There is no way any person could literally type up a long ass post about STDs, and be so wrong about them. I mean, there is a way, but it involves early years of brainwashing and limited societal exposure, and I'm sure this previously Jew hating person hasn't been kept from society and knows what STDs are.

He needs to stop -- and he needs to stop real soon.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 27, 2013, 11:44:14 am
I think a ban at this time would be premature. A warning would be better, but... I dunno, I just can't seem to care. Nobody seems to be upset by his ranting, people are mostly laughing at him, and if he keeps it contained to that thread I don't think it's an issue.

I agree.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 27, 2013, 01:37:07 pm
Yeah, it's not that serious now that I think about it being only in the shit thread. The moment it steps out of there is when we have a problem.

I think he should just go play Mugen. Talking about some saving people on a Mugen forum. Holy cow.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 27, 2013, 01:44:08 pm
I don't know.  Hate speech is still hate speech, regardless of where he's posting it.  "It's just the shit thread" didn't hold any water when it was HJK on the chopping block.  Besides,  I wouldn't want to set a precedent that it's okay to post stuff like that as long other users think you look stupid when you do it.  Plus there's the whole "come back from being banned and continue to do the thing you were banned for" problem.

But if y'all wanna play it safe here, then fine.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 27, 2013, 01:52:05 pm
Is he still spitting hate speech? I read the last page or so, and I didn't see anymore of demons are coming because men have sex with men stuff -- but then again, I skimmed it last night and only saw something about STDs.

If he's still saying being gay is wrong and he is talking about other stuff like how slavery is good and women are slaves because of Eve and all that nonsense, then there's a problem.

And also, The Shit Thread is definitely not an excuse. No one is exempt from being moderated because it's the shit thread. We made that clear with HJK. We're just saying that if he wants to post ridiculous Youtube videos about the end of the world and talk about the bible in his fashion, then there's really no harm done in the shit thread.

But hate speech is note acceptable -- that's terrible. No. If that's what he's doing -- he will stop, willingly or otherwise.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 27, 2013, 02:12:25 pm
both person man and rajaa are right.
i found it appaling that anyone would go "Oh he can promote hate speech as long as its in a shit thread".
The "shit" threads are not unmoderated. they are not spamming places either.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 27, 2013, 02:13:01 pm
It looks a lot like hate speech to me.  He's dressing it up with this whole humble religious missionary gimmick, but it all boils down to "being gay is evil and wrong and you're going to hell for it."

And now there's also this post (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1724140) where he quotes scripture at Rajaa for using the phrase holy cow, leaving me 100% convinced that he's just taking the piss and trying to start a huge religious argument for shits and giggles.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 27, 2013, 02:15:26 pm
that was obvious in the post where he goes to great lenghts about how one cant be happy without God and he is doing us a favour by teaching us how we can follow the one true god
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 27, 2013, 03:08:51 pm
Changing everything into something religious; spitting hate speech; has a history of bigotry and hate speech, and plain old rudeness (which is against the rules more than the normal rudeness that a normal person might dish out during a certain circumstance because what); pretended to be a nazi; now pretending to be holier than thou.

I say we just ban his account for 2 years so we can move on with our MFG escapades. Come on, he's on his second account, the first account was nazism, now this random extreme holier than thou nonsense? Just get rid of him and stop wasting time. We already know how this goes.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 27, 2013, 03:32:26 pm
other religions are false by the bible's teachings.


Yeah, I've had enough.  I don't care if it's the shit thread.  I don't care if he's trolling.  Shit like that is capital-N Never okay.  I gave him another three days so we can talk about it, but I personally think it needs to be a lot longer.  First the nazi thing, now this 'one true god, ye shall be saved' nonsense.  This guy gets off on inciting arguments by acting like as huge of a shitbag as possible, and this isn't 4chan.  I say he gets no less than 3 months this time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 27, 2013, 03:40:27 pm
I dont think we should be the thought police when it comes to discussion about religion. You can disagree all you want, but silencing him because you dont agree isn't right.

I'm more inclined to think his statement about mugen being idolatry is a valid reason for him not to be here. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 27, 2013, 03:49:00 pm
That wasn't a "discussion about religion."  That was him jumping up on a soapbox and shouting about how everyone here are a bunch of heathens for not worshipping the One True God and that the gays are evil and inventing STDs to give to good God-fearing Christians, but it's okay because the bible told him to forgive all of us filthy heretics.

That's not discussion.  That is hateful bigotry, and it doesn't matter if he was trolling or not because we should not tolerate that in any way.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 27, 2013, 03:50:47 pm
Not the thought police, the getting rid of played-out obvious "trolls" police. And giving hate speeches isn't even protected under the Constitution if the speech is inciting. His posts are as inciting as it's gonna get on an internet forum.

Not that we base our decisions on the Constitution or on books by Orwell. =p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 27, 2013, 03:55:53 pm
if your religion involves niggers and jews being sub human , you are getting banned. I dont care how much you think its thought control, thats goddamn obvious. It happened when he was a nazi.
if they now involve the same but pitying those that are gay or women, he gets banned. I dont care how much you think thats thought control either.
This is not religious speech or being persecuted by it, this is obviously baiting people and trying to put on a show.

Your religious freedoms dont allow you hate speech, you cant go "its just my opinion but canadians are the scourge of the earth and should be put to death! Just saying!" and then go "hey its my religion to hate canadians, dont persecute me for my opinions!" .

If you were raised to have some anti social behaviour that makes you a prick you probably got to a point in your life where you were taught what is okay to tell people and what is not.

Is bigotry accepted out of fear of hurting some bigot feelings?

     Posted: February 27, 2013, 04:20:40 pm
it should go without saying but when i say "If you were" im not referring to anyone im replying to but talking in the sense of "if someone was ".
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 27, 2013, 04:53:49 pm
Well looky here:  http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1724221

Can I give him a bigger ban now?  I really don't think there's anything left to debate at this point.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on February 27, 2013, 04:55:40 pm
Two years to permanent. We have to stop letting people use alternate accounts to get around initial long term bans, never has it ended well.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on February 27, 2013, 05:28:02 pm
he is clearly out of his mind. what rajaa said.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 27, 2013, 05:30:15 pm
Anyone else?  I'll wait a little longer to let some others chime in, but if there aren't any major objections I'd be comfortable raising his ban to two years.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on February 27, 2013, 05:32:42 pm
Yeah lets do it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 27, 2013, 06:05:29 pm
Him confirming he only posted to "sell" religion to all of us sinners and not to be involved in the community in any other discussion kind of puts him in spambot category.   Permaban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 27, 2013, 06:14:05 pm
The ayes have it.  I've upped axkings ban to two years.   Should be just as effective as a permanent one.  If he really wants to wait longer than that just to come back and bug us, he's got some serious mental issues.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on February 27, 2013, 09:13:11 pm
If you're doing 2 years you may as well go permanent. 2 years isn't a simmer down time. Like i said we should have a maximum "You can come back from this" length, anything beyond that may as well be permanent. This is that situation. Needs to be never. Not some arbitrary value
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 27, 2013, 10:18:38 pm
I don't know.  Hate speech is still hate speech, regardless of where he's posting it.  "It's just the shit thread" didn't hold any water when it was HJK on the chopping block.
Hmm, hate speech? I dunno... it definitely walks the fine line between hate speech and regular religious bigotry, so I dunno. If it's hate speech it's on the more innocuous side, IMO. (I'm referring to everything he's posted before this (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1724104) because I haven't read the rest yet)

As for the shit thread thing, the reason hjk was banned was for spamming the same thing over and over there; AxKing at least appears to want to have a discussion, though appearances are likely deceiving. He's not as much responding to people as he is quoting them and making long speeches vaguely related to the quote; he's not really interested in discussion. That is cause for concern, more so than his dumb and bigoted views, methinks.
/me continues to read shit thread

i found it appaling that anyone would go "Oh he can promote hate speech as long as its in a shit thread".
I find it appalling that anyone would come to the conclusion that literally anyone was suggesting that, ever, in the history of the universe.

Hmm, was AxKing warned before he was banned that last time? A verbal warning, telling him to cut it out? Because there should have been one, repeat occasion or not. Talking about him in this thread doesn't cut it. So I don't really agree with the events that led to the initial ban? But once he came back with another account and admitted to posting all that to trying to convert everyone and stuff, that's grounds for a permaban.

We needed to make clear that his dumb posts, hate speech or not, were not gonna be tolerated here. Instead we discussed it in this thread and only made snide remarks in the place where he would actually read posts. A PM should've been sent, or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on March 20, 2013, 09:19:31 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/danudrug-81197

*Freakin' Sigh*

DuckSS's alternate account to talk to himself and bash himself. Like the horrihorrendobad English and bigotry isn't enough. :/
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on March 20, 2013, 09:45:40 am
God dammit, why is this becoming a big thing lately? It's been happening a lot more in the past couple of months than I can ever remember it before.

HEY ASSHOLES WHO ARE READING THIS THREAD WHO WANT TO REGISTER A SECOND ACCOUNT. STOP REGISTERING SECOND ACCOUNTS

I'm seriously considering suggesting a mandatory ban for anyone who does this from now on.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on March 20, 2013, 10:53:50 am
I'm sure it will die down. I've never seen a 15-year-old act this impossible, or maybe I have. Who knows.

This personal message isn't that huge enough to be kept private:

rajaa I'm real women here,I saw something in warnings,look I and duckSS are friends and he told me to be on this forum,also I'm speak realy bad english too.

Of course it's either a brother or girlfriend thing. I find it unlikely, but of course there's a possibility, even though history points to it being untrue.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 20, 2013, 11:01:47 am
ducks last online 23 minutes ago
danudrugs last online 26 minutes ago
he is disconnecting one account to post with the other. its the same guy.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 20, 2013, 11:14:37 am
Unless it's a shared computer... unlikely but possible.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on March 20, 2013, 01:43:03 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/help-i-want-delete-my-mfg-acount-149153.msg1735185.html#new

Does he think we're stupid?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 20, 2013, 01:55:46 pm
Fucking hell.  Why is this a thing?

I'm starting think we should lay down some actual rules against this whole alt account roleplay nonsense, because it's becoming rather prevalent lately.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 20, 2013, 02:06:10 pm
About damn time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on March 20, 2013, 04:31:14 pm
that is the most obvious duplicate i have ever seen.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on March 20, 2013, 05:07:19 pm
He sent me a message telling me he created the alternate account to mess with another user, but he was only using the alternate account to talk to himself, so, he's still lying, but to a lesser degree.

I guess just merge the accounts and let's discuss some rules to add so we won't have to make stuff up as we go along.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on March 20, 2013, 09:40:38 pm
I banned the alternate account. Will merge later.

Btw wanted to mention this. Does anyone think that merging secondary accounts might cause some strange flows in the forum? Keeping them separate better shows exactly what happens as far as replying to themselves and such. Merging accounts just seems like it makes things messy to me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 20, 2013, 10:25:52 pm
in the end of the day its better when you want to check post history, because anything they said or did while pretending to be someone else becomes more evident.
in this case, ducks telling people "you want drug i get "
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 20, 2013, 10:42:57 pm
I checked his recent post history and im banning him for the three days period whereas y'all decide on a duration for his ban during those three days.
He has been posting homophobic comments, comments about drugs, trying to derail threads and even created a second account just to play with.
This is my answer to those actions combined. Do nothing and he thinks he can just keep doing it. Know why you got so many double accounts? because there is no incentive in not doing one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 20, 2013, 10:52:50 pm
He also posted  couple of links to porn sites. I was going to post that but forgot to do it (my short term memory is crappy).

Let's ban people for two weeks for making a alt account. More if they do someting particulary obnoxius wit their second account, and lenghty ban for repeated offenders.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 20, 2013, 10:56:05 pm
I feel even more validated.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on March 20, 2013, 11:15:35 pm
in the end of the day its better when you want to check post history, because anything they said or did while pretending to be someone else becomes more evident.
in this case, ducks telling people "you want drug i get "
I see your point. If you haven't merged the accounts yet I'm gonna. Also I can't believe I didn't notice all the stuff that's being pointed out before. Was any of it getting reported?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 20, 2013, 11:22:42 pm
There's nothing in the rules about posting links to porn sites; although they should somehow be labeled as such I'm sure.  Considering the topic of the thread was about porn searching. 

As for banning for an alternate account, I think verbal warning for the first (assuming they didn't do something bad), 3 day second time, month for any after.  But we have to be sure they are in fact alternate accounts and not someone at the same school, library, house, using the same proxy, whatever.

As for Duck, 3 days is enough.  No more homophobic comments though.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 20, 2013, 11:25:25 pm
His homophobic post about uppercutting homosexuals was reported. The Sebian porn too, but I deleted it.

I didn't know anything about drugs before reading Iced's post. Not like that's a bad thing on its own, as long as it isn't disruptive.

     Posted: March 20, 2013, 11:27:33 pm
MissB: a warning is pretty much the same as letting people get away unpunished.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 20, 2013, 11:32:09 pm
There's nothing in the rules about posting links to porn sites; although they should somehow be labeled as such I'm sure.  Considering the topic of the thread was about porn searching. 

Thats proposterous, links to porn and links to wares are and have always been deleted or removed. 
Im not going to start label everything that you shouldnt do, its more than obvious that you shouldnt be posting porn links on a forum like this. Do you think that we should add to the rules "dont be a homophobic douche" otherwise people can do it at will? I dont think so.
The thread was about statistics over porn, not "post your favorite porns here becuz its not in the rulz we cant"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 20, 2013, 11:36:14 pm
The warning would only be for someone who's never had an alternate account before, and would give them a chance to explain, confirm, deny.  It wouldnt be right to slap a ban on someone then find out there WERE 2 separate people.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 20, 2013, 11:40:41 pm
It's not an inmediate ban, we call 'them' out and if neither account has convincing proof about being two separate individuals we ban one for two weeks and mege the other.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 21, 2013, 12:06:51 am
^ 2 weeks seems kind of long for a first offense.


Thats proposterous, links to porn and links to wares are and have always been deleted or removed. 
Im not going to start label everything that you shouldnt do, its more than obvious that you shouldnt be posting porn links on a forum like this. Do you think that we should add to the rules "dont be a homophobic douche" otherwise people can do it at will? I dont think so.
The thread was about statistics over porn, not "post your favorite porns here becuz its not in the rulz we cant"

Like I said in the feedback thread, I didn't see the links so I probably shouldnt be commenting on it. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 21, 2013, 12:25:29 am
I actually think MissB might have the right idea this time.  Not about Duck, about the alt account thing.  Two weeks is a little extreme for a first offense.  And while it's really annoying, it's not exactly very harmful to the forum in general.

How about this:  If we see someone posing with alt account, we give them one chance to explain themselves;  If it turns out that it is the same person then the two accounts get merged and the user in question gets a 3 day ban, and probably a warning via PM for good measure.  If it happens again, that's when it gets bumped up to two weeks.  How does that sound?

We should probably make dealing with these things fairly public too.  At least more so than simply posting in the public staff thread, because not everyone else reads it.  Most of these guys make new accounts because they don't want to be seen as 'themselves.'  It's usually either for sock-puppeting to support themselves, or try and blend in and bash themselves when everyone else is so they can try to look cool.    The potential embarrassment factor of "You are going to get caught and everyone is going to know about it" would probably be an effective deterrent from doing it in the first place.

As far as Duck goes, I say give him a minimum of a week.  Maybe two.  All of that crap he was pulling put together deserves more than a single slap on the wrist.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 21, 2013, 12:32:07 am

We should probably make dealing with these things fairly public too.  At least more so than simply posting in the public staff thread, because not everyone else reads it.  Most of these guys make new accounts because they don't want to be seen as 'themselves.'  It's usually either for sock-puppeting to support themselves, or try and blend in and bash themselves when everyone else is so they can try to look cool.    The potential embarrassment factor of "You are going to get caught and everyone is going to know about it" would probably be an effective deterrent from doing it in the first place.


Is this one a likely suspect?

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/homme-81620


And how can we get more public than talking about it here?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 21, 2013, 12:36:11 am
that seems like a false positive, posting style is completely different.

odd, emails are alike, but one has really hard time writing english the other doesnt.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 21, 2013, 12:42:38 am
Multi accounting is different from any other 'first time offense' ban. Derailing threads, shitposting, losing your head and calling people names, and everything else that stems from lack of self control or forum etiquette are different from making a second account. 

Making an alt acount and posing as two (or more) different users is a deliberate obtrusive behavior. It means that you're trying to be a deceiving asshole. That kind of behavior is completely unacceptable and should be punished harshly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 21, 2013, 12:42:57 am
Is this one a likely suspect?

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/homme-81620
Possibly.  He has the same IP as another user, but he's only made the one post.  Probably worth keeping an eye on.

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And how can we get more public than talking about it here?
I don't know, I'm just sort of spitballing here.  Maybe calling them out on it directly in the threads they're doing it in?  Letting the rest of the forum jump on them for it?  Obviously, I'm not advocating letting everyone gang up on one user just to bash them.  I'm just saying that these alt accounts are typically used to avoid humiliation;  the idea that it's going to be even more humiliating when they get caught might keep it from happening in the first place.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on March 21, 2013, 04:37:13 am

I didn't know anything about drugs before reading Iced's post. Not like that's a bad thing on its own, as long as it isn't disruptive.
His alternate account had a signature that was basically telling people to send him messages to obtain drugs. He trumps obnoxious. He's something else.

that seems like a false positive, posting style is completely different.

odd, emails are alike, but one has really hard time writing english the other doesnt.
That's not a false positive. :stare:



On the issue of alternate accounts. I say if the person is using the alternate account for something malicious or against the rules, we ban all of their accounts for the amount of days they have posted with their alternate account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 21, 2013, 12:45:38 pm
Wow we're all over the page on this one.    I'm with Rajaa, the account has the same IP and almost identical email addresses.  However that person seems to be well behaved and well liked, so I doubt he is "trying to be a deceiving asshole". 

As much as I like rules to be well defined , clear cut, applied consistently and all that crap, I dont think we can do that with alternate accounts.  I think we have to take each one as a separate case.   Someone making an account to build up post count to vote on something is more damaging than someone who  makes an account to comment on something one time, as long as that comment doesnt break rules.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on March 22, 2013, 08:44:02 am
If it wasn't for the fact deletion messes things up. I'd delete the new accounts.

I don't think new accounts should be merged unless the person in question really really wants their username changed. Like if MBH wanted it to say MissBHaven instead. Or Rajaa wanted RajaaBoy back. Simply changing for the fuck of it, no.

Possibility of permaban the name and the reason is a link to the original accounts profile. I feel that merging is too much work. And the "offence" is really just a messy pain rather than something where you need to go hellbitch on the person doing it.

Unless of course they're actively breaking rules under the new account, in which case perma ban new. Ban old for normal period except double it for making the additional account to break rules with.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 22, 2013, 07:47:20 pm
I really don't like the merging either.  Ban new alternate account with link to the original profile sounds good to me. 

Two weeks for Duck?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on March 22, 2013, 11:14:33 pm
I think 2 weeks is fair. I'd like a month cos he's really really annoying but that's not how it works.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 23, 2013, 08:51:57 am
I disagree with you all on the merging bit. if you dont merge them its easy to lose track of who had which alternates, and if you merge them, the insults ,e tc they did while pretending to be a new person end up on their post history so anyone can re read them later on
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on March 23, 2013, 09:29:40 am
This is one of those things where both sides have valid points. I'm still not a big fan of merging accounts especially if a mistake is made it would be impossible for me to fix(though as far as I can tell Val can fix it).

Which is why I've been upset at all the recent second accounts. It's forcing me to do it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on March 23, 2013, 05:22:09 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/medicine-melancholy-81598

:flipout::flipout::flipout::flipout::flipout:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 23, 2013, 05:42:37 pm
hello everynyan, i am a new user here. What is everyone up to~?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 24, 2013, 12:18:18 pm
I just checked both the ban list and a members post history.  For a year ago, the ban list is only page 5, for the members post history for a year  I would have to go back a whole lot more than 5 pages and read the context of each post. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 24, 2013, 12:54:32 pm
I dont understand what you are trying to say.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 24, 2013, 02:08:11 pm
I disagree with you all on the merging bit. if you dont merge them its easy to lose track of who had which alternates,

If the original account is linked to when the alternate account is banned, we can easily track who had which alternates.

If we read through post history to try to decide if someone deserves a longer/perma ban, we may have to go through 100 pages of posts to find the posts from the alternate account a year ago, but only 5 pages on the ban list.   
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 24, 2013, 02:31:22 pm
Ah I understand it now.
If you are deciding to ban someone you are bound to know specifics i think, I dunno, I dont see it as that odd.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 24, 2013, 08:40:07 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1737261

banned celest for wasting people's time. three days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 05, 2013, 12:21:36 am
mugenguild.com/forum/profile/watsongrim69-35265

mugenguild.com/forum/profile/watsongrim6699-81673

Merge 'em.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 05, 2013, 09:02:14 pm
caddie can handle it!

Banned zeroz, 3 days, he is trying to start shit again
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/serious-rasslin-fan-70002

his whole profile seems to be around trying to take the piss out of sean, considering how he got banned last time, ive banned him for the custom 3 days, now decide on his ban lenght.
he straight up come back from his one month ban to do that, so im thinking doubling it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on April 06, 2013, 01:05:00 am
3 days to decide. week, fortnight month, 3 months. Logicalish progression.

Why am i still here?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 06, 2013, 06:52:41 am
mugenguild.com/forum/profile/watsongrim69-35265

mugenguild.com/forum/profile/watsongrim6699-81673

Merge 'em.
Remind me to do that when I got more spare time than what I have now. Prolly this Sunday.

Why am i still here?

Oh yeah we were supposed to do something with you weren't we. Want out or did you reconsider?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cyanide on April 06, 2013, 08:43:57 am
nope, haven't reconsidered, remove mods, i am not helping out further. Assholes to it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 06, 2013, 10:23:49 am
caddie can handle it!

Banned zeroz, 3 days, he is trying to start shit again
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/serious-rasslin-fan-70002

his whole profile seems to be around trying to take the piss out of sean, considering how he got banned last time, ive banned him for the custom 3 days, now decide on his ban lenght.
he straight up come back from his one month ban to do that, so im thinking doubling it.

You banned him based on his profile not on anything he posted?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 06, 2013, 01:57:54 pm
damn right i did, he got banned over it returns and the first thing he does is prepare a profile that keeps doing what he got banned over? Are you kidding me?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 06, 2013, 03:54:07 pm
uh, no I'm not "kidding",  I was asking if the ban was based on his profile or something he posted.  He likes to troll and he's probably not going to change.

Another month.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on April 06, 2013, 07:16:43 pm
If he was banned for a month and immediately came back doing the exact same shit he clearly hasn't learned a thing.  Two months this time, and if he does it again after that make it permanent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 06, 2013, 07:46:27 pm
The last time we talked about something like this (1 year ago? 2 years ago?) we agreed to let people use mocking, passive-agressive avatars and signatures, as long as they did not drag their petty conflicts into the forum.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 06, 2013, 08:02:22 pm
nope, haven't reconsidered, remove mods, i am not helping out further. Assholes to it.
There you go Cyanide. If you ever wanna it back just message me. :)

Oh and I merged that account and pm'd him about it as well.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on April 06, 2013, 10:04:45 pm
wish luck, future endeavors, etc.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 07, 2013, 10:14:43 am
Bye, Cyanide.
Ban Zeroz. Forever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 07, 2013, 01:40:54 pm
The last time we talked about something like this (1 year ago? 2 years ago?) we agreed to let people use mocking, passive-agressive avatars and signatures, as long as they did not drag their petty conflicts into the forum.
i dont recall that, what i recall was jz using those and it becoming an issue.
at any rate his whole account is doing exactly what he was banned for, i am not going to give anyone loopholes to continue doing stuff they got banned over.
uh, no I'm not "kidding",  I was asking if the ban was based on his profile or something he posted.  He likes to troll and he's probably not going to change.

Another month.
so you are suggesting he gets banned permanently? Because liking to waste people time isnt a positive trait nor justifies allowing someone to do it.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 08, 2013, 01:04:31 am
zeroz sent me a pm complaining about his suggestion for permaban, also demanding an unban and an apology.

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o let me get this straight, I'm gonna get perma banned for making fun of something Sean said? I haven't had an altercation with him since I got banned so I dunno what in the hell is so wrong to make a joke out of something about Wrestling, because he's not the only person who's told me the exact same thing about calling wrestlers by their real names.. John Cena's real name Is John Cena.. see how funny it is? So if I make fun of something I said..I'm getting more bans too right? what if I make fun of something a game company said, will I get IP Bans?

I am not pissing anyone off but you, and this is no where near in terms of "low" like JNP thinks it is.

This is complete idiocy and just bad modding. You let assclowns like Celest who's clearly trying to piss people off with his "troll modes" but he gets 3 days each time, but when I make fun of something the almighty god Seanalty says, I get Months..perma bans, Are you fucken serious? 

this is my reply

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Hi zeroz. If you get banned over something, the ideal situation is not to try to mock it  or make jokes that make it seem like you are still trying to throw passive aggressive remarks at the same persons that you got banned over. I dont buy your story of "its completely unrelated", cmon, do you expect anyone to buy that?

Notice how no one else batted an eye at the suggestion of permaban? You have had problems everywhere, even Bhaven is saying you wont chagne because you "like to troll". Why are you acting as if somehow others are to blame for your issues? Its not even comparable to celeste, who is a kid, you have been around long enough that you should know better than to waste other's time.
You have been around for years and you got in trouble everywhere you go, is this somehow other's faults?

You probably wont get permabanned this time, but look how you post, do you expect others to put up with that for long?

MBH's view is only based on my attitude from M.I, where no one took that place seriously, you wanna know how or if I'm joking around? Ask GLB, as I always take jabs at something that sounded stupid, I don't care about SeanAlty, I already took a piss on his thread, that's as far as I go with him, and the rest(Rasslin fan..etc) is simply me having a laugh. I had that name for 2 days before being issued a ban, I didn't see him complain..

And I'm not blaming anybody about what I did prior to this, I just said this ban was fucken stupid and overreacting.

And tell Rajaa not to get involved anymore, I can donate money for charities and he would still hate on me. 
No one is going to be asking GLB to see how mean your "jokes" are being. You dont return from a ban and imediately make a profile based on what got you banned for funzies.
At the point of returning straight from a ban you are on a short leash, and you yanked at it, so you got the rolled up newspaper again.


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I didn't post anything offensive, I didn't start problems, I'm not spamming, I'm no trolling your almighty god SeanAtly, and again, I had that name for 2 days straight w/o anyone calling me out until you banned me, I don't see what the problem is since no one in the forum took offensive to it. I looked through threads..report section, nada, zip, zilch.

You didn't even ask me before banning me about why I had my profile like that. I'm not provoking Seanaltly, if I wanted to, I would just go to his threads and do so like I did last month, have I? No, Will I?, No.

Yeah, You overreacted.
Yeah see how many people agree? None, because you deserved it. People told me you were mocking the ban, I checked, and sure enough you were, so you are gone.

"BUT BUT I WANT TO POKE AT PEOPLE" is not a good justification for doing it, stop acting like a child, running around trying to justify why others dont enjoy putting up with you because of "Adoring sean altly" .
Long as you get banned for something you are getting banned again if the moment you return you start acting the same way, and if anything these messages show that you havent learnt a thing.



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I wasn't poking at anyone, just parodying something that someone said, which again he wasn't the only one who said it to me so that's why I found it funny.
Just who exactly started to complain?

It's not me who's making excuses here, it's you, I didn't do anything wrong and I went along to post like I normally do with no one telling me or even asking me to change my name...for 2 days, and now you have problem with it? You kidding me?

I demand an unban and apology asap. I don't know how many fucken times I have to say it wasn't meant to provoke anyone here, nor cause trouble.

ahahahhahah


thats adorable.


this account shall self destruct in ten minutes.


I deleted his alternate account.



So, what lenght should the ban we were discussing actually be?

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 08, 2013, 01:08:16 am
What exactly did he have in his profile?

If it's as "innocent" as he's claiming I don't see a reason to leave the ban for 3 days at the moment. But with a note in the ban to make any future ban 3 months or greater if he goes back to poking, bullying, or trolling.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 08, 2013, 01:13:23 am
they seem to be mostly jabs at the argument he was having about real wrestling when he started trying to piss off sean last time and that got him banned after.

They would be "harmless" hadnt he been banned over it before.
Its like if you banned someone for posting porn and they come back with the name and sigs calling himself "THE PORNLORD ASK ME ABOUT MY PORNS"
(http://i.imgur.com/L2gYIzg.png)
Its just really childishly trying to poke at people.
( disclaimer i still dont know who the fuck he is  except for seeing him trying to shit on syn and sean )
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 08, 2013, 01:28:47 am
Yeah, it looks pretty blatant. It's not too bad though. Meh, keep it for 3 days. "Last chance" mode. When/if it happens again he won't be able to say he wasn't aware.

It really isn't a good idea to test the mods by saying things that can be construed as continuing something you got banned for.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on April 08, 2013, 01:40:13 am
That 'poor persecuted me' schtick isn't fooling me for a second.  You get banned for something, you don't come back as a giant exaggerated parody of the shit that got you banned.  "I wasn't trying to start shit!  I was just making fun of how stupid you were for banning me in the first place!"  Yeah, I don't think so. 

I still say he gets at least another month.  If he's really that dedicated to being a total asshole then let him stew in it a little more and think about if it's really worth it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 08, 2013, 01:48:25 am
Pandemic said:
So if I make fun of something I said..I'm getting more bans too right? what if I make fun of something a game company said, will I get IP Bans?

This is complete idiocy and just bad modding.
I always take jabs at something that sounded stupid, I don't care about SeanAlty, I already took a piss on his thread
I'm not provoking Seanaltly, if I wanted to, I would just go to his threads and do so like I did last month, have I? No, Will I?, No.

Yeah, You overreacted.
Pandemic said:
I demand an unban and apology asap. I don't know how many fucken times I have to say it wasn't meant to provoke anyone here, nor cause trouble.

I was going to pm him and explain to him what he did and why he got the ban he did and try to defuse the situation, but after this I would have no problem banning this guy permanently. I doubt he will ever be able to be a productive part of this forum without actively trying to cause problems.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 08, 2013, 07:32:28 am
Comparing the actual interactivity and insulting of a single, tangible person to the insulting of one giant metonymy is some of the worst logic I've ever witnessed in all my years on this planet.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 08, 2013, 07:41:37 am
What?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 08, 2013, 07:46:00 am
What do you mean "what"? What's so hard to understand about my post?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 08, 2013, 07:16:28 pm
Your verbiage was partially grandiose. I don't intend to appear obtuse, but some of us have a more limited lexicon in our cerebral.

I didn't know what part of what your comment was referring to.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 09, 2013, 08:30:57 am
I was talking about the first quote you posted above my initial post.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 09, 2013, 10:20:38 pm
zeroz 3 day ban ended while everyone is still arguing what to do with him

issued a warning over ad referrals here:

Download
Here http://AD REFERRALS ARE FORBIDDEN/47Lu0

Ilu, ad fly links are forbidden on this forum, we started banning them quite a long while ago. Please replace them.
This isnt the first time this is pointed out.

ADDENDUM: the following were added to the rules

Do not link to ad referrals or any "get me money" schemes. This applies to your profile (signature, etc.) as well as your posts.

edit: your website link is a ad referral as well, please change that.

Also added the ad referrals to censored words since from a forum search i found a few more being used.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 09, 2013, 10:55:43 pm
3 days is/was fine for Zeroz, if he acts up again (in a more serious manner, i.e. not taking potshots via profile), permabanning should enter the discussion, I think.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 12, 2013, 05:15:47 am
Keep an eye on this guy. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/pokejh-81754)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 12, 2013, 05:20:37 am
Just for the record, Zeroz still has a potshot in his profile.

"It's still real to me dammit" - This is a wrestling quote. An emotional older fan said it at some interview session with wrestlers while crying. His behavior which has continued even after the ban is unexceptable. In my opinion. At this point, if he wants to stay here, he should feel lucky that none of you have spoken up on banning him because I'm ready to kick him out after those pms with Iced and what he said in feedback.

      Posted: April 12, 2013, 05:22:14 am
Keep an eye on this guy. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/pokejh-81754)
He said he's 11, which is too young to be on this site. Plus he's saying some inappropriate things for an 11 year old. That worries me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 12, 2013, 06:04:46 am
We can legitimately ban people from topics with an option now? "View Topic Bans" under profiles?

Also, that guy is lying and he's a troublemaker. If it weren't for that 3 day rule, I'd just ban his account altogether. He's not 11, 11-year-olds don't say "when I was a kid."
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 12, 2013, 06:20:08 am
Oh, I want to add that pokejh did not say "you're a we are dumb fucks spamming this site for ten years" to FJF, that was added by FJF when he quoted pokejh's post.

For some reason.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 12, 2013, 11:13:38 am
He said it to him on FJF's You Tube page.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 12, 2013, 11:18:28 am

He said he's 11, which is too young to be on this site. Plus he's saying some inappropriate things for an 11 year old. That worries me.
outright ban him.


Just for the record, Zeroz still has a potshot in his profile.

"It's still real to me dammit" - This is a wrestling quote. An emotional older fan said it at some interview session with wrestlers while crying. His behavior which has continued even after the ban is unexceptable. In my opinion. At this point, if he wants to stay here, he should feel lucky that none of you have spoken up on banning him because I'm ready to kick him out after those pms with Iced and what he said in feedback.
At the point where he is he has been warned enough, you got free reign there, i think.
You might want to lock his profile into an edited profile as punishment for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 12, 2013, 11:54:22 am
i went and banned the guy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 12, 2013, 05:19:08 pm
i went and banned the guy.
Seems a bit premature, especially for a permaban (what about the 3 day system?)

I mean I have no doubts that he'd end up with a permaban, but... I dunno.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 12, 2013, 05:26:55 pm
he's 11, he's not supposed to be here according to the main rules. Its not like us discussing it will make him 13.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 12, 2013, 05:47:06 pm
With our track record, if we discussed it, by the time we finished discussing it, he'd be 13.

:haw:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 12, 2013, 07:17:47 pm
What kind of 11 years old boy goes around calling himself "half homo"?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 12, 2013, 07:39:06 pm
He's not 11, 11-year-olds don't say "when I was a kid."

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 12, 2013, 08:06:36 pm
That question was meant to express incredulity :P

We all know that 11 years is too young for pubic age.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 13, 2013, 05:05:52 am
he's 11, he's not supposed to be here according to the main rules. Its not like us discussing it will make him 13.
We've never banned anyone for violating the age requirement, AFAIK. Peterfoster and celest certainly weren't.

But regardless, we agreed on this system. We can't just go around making special exceptions. Either we use the system or we drop it entirely,  there's no inbetweens.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 13, 2013, 05:13:45 am
I vote for the latter.

      Posted: April 13, 2013, 05:29:25 am
You know what, since I'm not the only one (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/feedback-warnings--139053.1160.html) against this system we should vote for real.

Ditch it - 1
Keep it - 0
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 13, 2013, 10:49:32 am
I thought the age restriction was part of the standard registration agreement.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on April 13, 2013, 02:28:16 pm
^ Yeah, that shouldn't even warrant discussion.  Under the age restriction, they get the boot.  There's no need to debate that.
I vote for the latter.

      Posted: April 13, 2013, 05:29:25 am
You know what, since I'm not the only one (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/feedback-warnings--139053.1160.html) against this system we should vote for real.

Ditch it - 1
Keep it - 0
I don't think it's necessarily that black and white.  Having consensus is still preferable, but I think we need to be able to make decisions on our own.  It's gotten to the point where multiple repeat offenders and blatant trolls and trouble makers are getting off with little to no punishment because some of us (not going to name names here) are adhering to this "tiny ban and wait for unanimous consent before acting" system as if it were immutable law.  I don't think the system needs to be axed completely, but it's in desperate need of an overhaul.

So,
Ditch it - 1
Keep it - 0
Fix it - 1
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 13, 2013, 03:21:03 pm
I thought the age restriction was part of the standard registration agreement.
It is but we haven't really enforced it, so this particular ban caught me by surprise.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 13, 2013, 03:28:00 pm
he's 11, he's not supposed to be here according to the main rules. Its not like us discussing it will make him 13.
We've never banned anyone for violating the age requirement, AFAIK. Peterfoster and celest certainly weren't.

But regardless, we agreed on this system. We can't just go around making special exceptions. Either we use the system or we drop it entirely,  there's no inbetweens.
you are being obtuse.  we made actual exceptions for peterfoster and celest after their initial posts.
Look at his posts coupled with the age he claims to be. he is either 11 or a really terrible troll, there is no upside to keep him, Doesnt even show basic communication skills, half his posts are sex commentary.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 13, 2013, 03:44:55 pm
I don't think it's necessarily that black and white.  Having consensus is still preferable, but I think we need to be able to make decisions on our own.  It's gotten to the point where multiple repeat offenders and blatant trolls and trouble makers are getting off with little to no punishment because some of us (not going to name names here) are adhering to this "tiny ban and wait for unanimous consent before acting" system as if it were immutable law.  I don't think the system needs to be axed completely, but it's in desperate need of an overhaul.

So,
Ditch it - 1
Keep it - 0
Fix it - 1

I dont think the 3 day ban was ever supposed to be tiny ban and wait for unanimous consent.  It was an alternative to "I banned poster x for a year if any of you think that was too much, go ahead and change it".  It does need fixing if we are letting people get by with 3 day bans when they deserve longer ones.


Outlier cases like Zeroz's don't mean we should drop the system. It just needs a few tweaks. Like, if nobody talks about a 3 day ban-ee then whoever banned the guy should decide what to do, since nobody cares either way. For split cases the same thing could work, or maybe an admin could decide. I'm just spitballing here but I think these are minor issues that can easily be remedied.

I agree with this, whoever does the 3 day ban should decide on the length of the ban if none of us can be bothered to at least give an opinion. 

Ditch it - 1
Keep it - 0
Fix it - 2
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 13, 2013, 04:15:05 pm
you are being obtuse.  we made actual exceptions for peterfoster and celest after their initial posts.
What exceptions? Why were they made?

I'm so sorry to want to know what's going on please forgive me for being obtuse oh my goodness.

Look at his posts coupled with the age he claims to be. he is either 11 or a really terrible troll, there is no upside to keep him, Doesnt even show basic communication skills, half his posts are sex commentary.
He's quite obviously a troll (and quite obviously not 11). Literally no one has said otherwise. All's I was saying was that we're supposed to talk about bannings, no matter what.

I am also on the fix it side. We need a cool gang sign.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 13, 2013, 05:14:13 pm
for starters peter wasnt 12, he was 13 and within the age limitations.
Celest , who was 12 (if im not mistaken, you are the one bringing both up anyway ) we all talked about it on the ban threads and we tried to fix him because his posts werent malicious in nature.

You are being obtuse not because you want to know whats going on ( nothing wrong with that ) but because you wanted to wait to ban someone that every rule we have says should be booted out.
If you want to increase the admission age, then thats a point to bring up, but it wasnt what you stated.

Quote
We've never banned anyone for violating the age requirement, AFAIK. Peterfoster and celest certainly weren't.

But regardless, we agreed on this system. We can't just go around making special exceptions. Either we use the system or we drop it entirely,  there's no inbetweens.
There were people banned for the age requirement before.  And a system for discussing ban durations doesnt apply when you are straight up booting someone out. What did you expect to discuss here? Discussing if he was really 11 or just a troll?Both would mean that with the bulk of his posts he wasnt allowed in.-
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 13, 2013, 05:18:51 pm
Peter *was* 12 when he first joined.

Personman said:
I don't think it's necessarily that black and white.

JMorphman was the one to put it in black and white terms:

JMorphman said:
Either we use the system or we drop it entirely, there's no inbetweens.

And I rather have it gone. Our personal criteria shouldn't be less valueable than a silly system. If a poster is terrible beyond any reasonable doubt we should be ban him and call it a day. No point in hindering the obvious course of action.

The 3 day ban should work as guideline and not a strict system we forcibly have to adhere.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 13, 2013, 05:34:59 pm
if i recall correctly he said he was 12, then he claimed he was actually 13 when told that 13 was the minimum age, i could be wrong.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 13, 2013, 05:42:03 pm
Seems a bit premature, especially for a permaban (what about the 3 day system?)

I mean I have no doubts that he'd end up with a permaban, but... I dunno.
This is why I didn't ban him. Because I knew someone here would say this and we'd argue about it if I just did it without bringing it up. It's cool though, I've decided I'm just going to make tough decisions from now on. Since we're discussing this it obviously needs to be done.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 13, 2013, 05:49:16 pm
So the actual system existing made you not take any action at all?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 13, 2013, 05:53:32 pm
No. It made me bring it up instead of just banning the dude. I like the idea of getting a consensus but I feel some people on this staff are getting the wrong idea about what that means. I just didn't wanna deal with that again so I brought it up here instead of just doing something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 13, 2013, 06:21:32 pm
you wanted to wait to ban someone that every rule we have says should be booted out.
I brought it up because I thought he was banned because of his behavior, not his age. I've never seen anyone banned for their age.

And I'd still probably have said the same thing if I did know that, because that's the system we agreed on. As for what we would've talked about for a ban over age: how long the ban should be. 2 years (aka till he's 13) or perma. Don't really see why discussion is a bad thing.

JMorphman was the one to put it in black and white terms:
In reference to making exceptions, yes. Not so with trying to make it work better.

It's a good system, we just need to iron out the kinks.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 14, 2013, 01:15:49 am
I actually thought that we discussed the ban length and such then the admin made final choice on the length. Worst case is that ICED and Caddie have differing opinions. But that'd be a lot easier to fix. If we are n=more unanimous in our choices it makes the admins choices simpler. If we are all over the place then find something more in the middle.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 14, 2013, 05:33:15 pm
mugenguild.com/forum/profile/helder-santos-81124

This guy spams the release board with MOVED: threads that don't even point to actual releases. I asked him to justify his actions directly after deleting one those threads earlier today, and the only thing I got for an answer was yet another useless thread. He's banned now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 14, 2013, 07:56:14 pm
Interesting post history.  It appears he wants his posts removed, maybe he wants to be banned?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 14, 2013, 08:05:06 pm
that was on a thread he deleted, then started posting new threads after that, I dont think he wants his posts banned but he wants his characters publicized, I dont know what else he is doing there.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 14, 2013, 09:28:10 pm
He said he was quitting like 3 months ago, because people asked him to post in English and not Portuguese, and because Rajaa asked him to use a single thread for his edits:
I'm Portuguese and Pride with this forum the word Democracy does not appear to exist for that reason not to be able to express myself in my mother language is enough to stop participating, thanks to those who supported me and thank the Administration to remove my account or expel best . MERKEL only speak and write German.
:I

but then he came back and reposted everything. And after that topic his post history is all spam messages, but ones that were deleted. Did anyone delete those posts themselves, or was it just him?

Either way it's spam. I think as much as a month would be a fair length for his ban, after ignoring a mod's PM.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 14, 2013, 09:33:26 pm
Maybe he's trying to post from a cheap phone or a really laggy old pc?  There's just something weird about the post history.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 14, 2013, 09:38:46 pm
I think I did most of that. I deleted those redirectionals mechanically during weeks. It was only today that the feeling of deja vu kicked hard inside my mind and I realized they all came from the same poster.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 15, 2013, 07:44:23 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/your-releases-mugen-1-0-re-filtered-edits-super-street-figther-149832.0.html

He is using the report section to respond to posts in his other thread, for some reason?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 15, 2013, 08:30:19 pm
Jmorph: Ban evasion. He was banned yesterday(as you can see a few posts up) and is now using the report button to 'post'.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 15, 2013, 08:43:31 pm
Um, I know. We (including me) just talked about him. :P

I'm just confused why he thought this was a good idea and why he thought the people he was responding to would see it. I don't really understand any of the things he's done.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 15, 2013, 08:48:02 pm
Do you see the guy that got banned a few days ago?

That's the same guy.


.....I dunno, he thinks he can work the system like that. If anyone sees him making another report, extend his ban 3 days and turn his ban into a full ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 15, 2013, 08:53:43 pm
Do you see the guy that got banned a few days ago?

That's the same guy.
...
Um, I know. We (including me) just talked about him. :P
:I
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 15, 2013, 09:07:53 pm
That's me messing with you, Jmorpho. Glad to have you back btw! ;D
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 16, 2013, 05:30:22 am
You're just trying to save face after being oblivious! Oh, wait, am I pointing out the obvious? I don't know, that smiley is ambiguous!

     Posted: April 16, 2013, 05:31:00 am
But yeah, I sent him a message that says exactly what my posts says, if he makes another report post, he won't be able to view the forum.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 16, 2013, 12:07:08 pm
He seems to be asking on his reports why he  got banned for sharing stuff.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 17, 2013, 12:51:23 am
So, is everyone is fine with his ban only lasting 3 days?

     Posted: April 17, 2013, 12:52:53 am
*double checks the ban, sees there are 29 days remaining*

umm, never mind then :-X
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 17, 2013, 12:53:15 am
wait to see if he keeps doing it I guess. if he does its time for stronger measures , since we cant understand exactly wtf he is doing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 17, 2013, 01:03:27 am
So, is everyone is fine with his ban only lasting 3 days?

      Posted: April 17, 2013, 12:52:53 am
*double checks the ban, sees there are 29 days remaining*

umm, never mind then :-X

when did it go to a month?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 17, 2013, 01:04:30 am
I dunno.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 17, 2013, 01:36:48 am
Yes, please. Who did this and why?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 17, 2013, 01:56:08 am
I changed it last night. His ban would've expired after midnight. Nobody mentioned any time frame other than 1 month during these days, so I went with that.

If you thought 3 day was long enough you sould've said it. How was I supposed to know you were against it if nobody commented on ban lenght? :p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 17, 2013, 02:17:12 am
I should have clarified. When I said this:

.....I dunno, he thinks he can work the system like that. If anyone sees him making another report, extend his ban 3 days and turn his ban into a full ban.

My suggestion was supposed to imply to let it expire unless he keeps it up. I realize now that it doesn't say that at all. Anyway, I don't think what he was doing was intentional so my recommendation is to just unban him. If he does it again, ban for 30 days. If any of yall disagree feel free to speak up and we can go with the majority.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 17, 2013, 02:32:29 am
Uh that post.

I'm not too strongly against unbanning him, but your reasoning insn't very connvincing, Caddie. He was fully aware of actions.
You think he used the move button and edited the default text by mistake? and that he accidentally missed the PM I sent him asking him to justify his seemingly crazy thread spam?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 17, 2013, 02:38:28 am
I agree, there's no way he isn't doing this on purpose. A month is totally fair, but I can see the case for unbanning him as well.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 17, 2013, 02:46:18 am
I think he did that on purpose, too. I just don't know if he did it knowing that it was wrong to do it. I don't know about the pm. I just think that he probably won't be doing it again if he was unbanned, and if he did he could just got a long ban for it.

Anyone else think he should keep the 30 day ban?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 17, 2013, 02:57:20 am
I'd believe that if he was a complete newcomer.But he started to do that one month after joining. Portuguese pride aside, his posting habits were 'normal'. What could be the explanation behind the sudden and mindbafflingly abnormal change in posting style?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 17, 2013, 03:05:14 am
That's not that long. I don't think banning him for a month is going to do anything now that he has been thoroughly warned about his behavior. I gotta go to bed so that's all I'm gonna say on this. Yall know my recommendation anyway. :P

Btw if you end up keeping the 30, I don't blame ya. Like Jmorph I understand why you did it and all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 17, 2013, 08:13:00 pm
Ok. Here's what I did regarding this (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/gaming-feminist-study-games-149882.msg1750110.html).

I split the topic at a point I felt was appropriate. I moved it to all that's left. And I'll merge it with the shit thread eventually. I also sent RobotMonkeyHead a pm:

Quote
Please try and keep as on topic as possible when posting in threads like the Feminist game video series videos.. Also, while there is no problem making huge posts, making three posts in a row is bad. Don't do it anymore, k?

If anyone has any other actions they wanna take because of that thread, go ahead and do it and just post what you do here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 17, 2013, 10:24:36 pm
Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

but uh yeah I don't think that thread is gonna produce any substantive debate
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 17, 2013, 10:32:43 pm
I'm not going to lock or delete the remaining actual "Feminist study of games" thread, and I recommend no one else do it. It's something worth being able to discuss, and it's relevant to gaming.

If we start censoring discussion about those videos, we're no better than 4chan. 4CHAN.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 17, 2013, 10:34:20 pm
I meant more like tossing the entire thing into the shit thread, and maybe starting over if anyone wanted to, but it's probably too late for that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 17, 2013, 10:55:10 pm
I don't see why we would do that either. It's not like the new topic, if it happens, would have a much different subject matter. It doesn't make sense to delete a topic and wait to see if someone restarts the same topic with similar content. O_O

Ya know, except for random topic and shit thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 17, 2013, 10:59:07 pm
I was spitballin'. I suggested the shitcanning because the topic was pretty much dead already. It's not really that big of a deal. Mostly I wanted to make an Aliens reference.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 17, 2013, 11:01:23 pm
And I didn't even notice it. :(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 24, 2013, 09:53:23 pm
This is not the first time this has happened. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1753746)

If this happens again, I think a banning would be fair, no?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 25, 2013, 12:26:21 am
A short one and a PM. Has he been warned to not do that?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 25, 2013, 12:32:30 am
Multiple times.

Or maybe just once, not counting this time? I don't remember, but I know it's been at least once.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 25, 2013, 01:09:34 am
Ok.

If anyone sees him saying something isn't worth a download again, give him at least a week ban, and a pm explaining what happened and why.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 26, 2013, 12:33:14 am
robothead tried to flamebait rajaa, warned him, he started shitting himself all over again, jmorphman tried to defuse it and joked about maverik, he is now quoting the maverik quotes and insulting him ( and me, which he was doing even when i warned him )  based on them.

YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST SHOCKINGLY DENSE PEOPLE I HAVE EVER HAD THE DISPLEASURE IN MEETING. YOUR STUPIDITY IS SICKENING AND THE MORE YOU CONTINUE TO TRY AND INTERACT WITH ME THE MORE OFFENSIVE IT IS GETTING FOR ME BECAUSE THE IDEA OF IMBECILE CHALLENGING ME IS FRANKLY UNACCEPTABLE.

NOW, LOOK AT THIS
JUST LOOK AT MY PROFESSIONALISM COMPARED TO THE GARBAGE YOU MAKE, YOUR 2 FRAME ATTACKS MAKE ME LAUGH AS I SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH

IT IS 5:39 PM AND YOU ARE STILL IRRELEVANT

You kind of suck at it, honestly.  Drop the arrogance, and keep it level.  I have hope tho.


Autism levels are rising, if he keeps it up should we do something?
Ive tried to explain to him several times how his aggression was working against him. He made a speech about being smart and studying people behaviour.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on April 26, 2013, 12:45:05 am
He's delusional.  Like, I'm legitimately questioning his mental state.  He's fabricated some sort of reality for himself wherein he's some unparalleled intellectual conducting social experiments by "pretending" to start arguments and watching everyone else react.  And anything anyone tells him to the contrary only serves to strengthen his delusion.  To put it less politely:  Dude's head is crammed so far up his ass he's gargling his own tonsils.

I'd say the best course of action would be to ignore him and let this particular instance wither and die with a warning, and the next time he decides to start another "case study" we drop the banhammer on him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 26, 2013, 01:00:31 am
Maybe if we ban him he'll write a thesis. Let's do it for the benefit of mankind.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 26, 2013, 01:17:22 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1754509

Gave an official warning to just stop. I'd rather he not get banned. But if he blatantly defies moderation warnings then I don't know.

He seems to want to primarily argue with those that have mod status. Or maybe it's just a coincidence that they are mods because we're all so argumentative :P I'm hoping he's not just pushing against anyone with some sort of power.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 26, 2013, 01:59:37 am
He just reposted a post of his that was deleted. So, ban time, yes?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 26, 2013, 02:03:14 am
And now we enter the autistic fit part of the meltdown.  Somehow there will be people saying that he was provoked into the meltdown.
Probably not him since from his distorted view he was winning and looked golden and we were all afraid of his powers of studying humans.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 26, 2013, 02:07:10 am
I banned him 3 days.

I think he should be banned for 7 days for this 1st ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 26, 2013, 02:09:16 am
Sounds good.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on April 26, 2013, 02:13:36 am
A week works.  We just need to be sure to keep him on a short leash when he gets back, because it seems like it takes practically nothing to set him off on these faux-academic tirades.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 26, 2013, 02:16:23 am
Yeah. If he does it again just give him 1 warning and be clear about it. Then if he does it again ban for a month I guess. Then if he does it again 6 months. At some point he'll stop posting like that or just stop posting one way or another.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 26, 2013, 03:39:52 am
I will never understand why people go crazy and downhill after losing one internet argument. Losing an argument shouldn't cause this kind of psychosis. One should learn from an argument, win or lose, not go crazy and gain a superiority complex.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on April 26, 2013, 04:15:12 am
theres something about the shitthread that makes idiots want to take a crack at pushing their luck. cant put a finger on why
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on April 26, 2013, 04:25:10 am
Because it's the shit thread. People get the idea that since that's where all the shit ends up, they can get away with posting brand new shit in there.  Like how some people think think the random topic is for posting literal random garbage.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 26, 2013, 04:29:20 am
theres something about the shitthread that makes idiots want to take a crack at pushing their luck. cant put a finger on why
OK, so building the first shit thread on an ancient Indian burial is sort of understandable, but I just don't understand why we had to build the second one on another ancient Indian burial ground. It just causes nothing but problems!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 27, 2013, 01:03:23 am
someone remind me why we have the "shit thread" and bad topics/splits arent just dumped?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 27, 2013, 02:58:19 am
So they can continue their dumb conversations there where no one has to head them. Since a lot of this is split from original topics. For example, when I split the feminism in gaming thread and put it in the shit thread, they could have their dumb fight there without going back to and clogging the original thread. Same with post your pictures and that fight from a few days ago. Let's them finish up whatever they gotta do and move on instead of having an excuse to keep things up in the original topic.

Really, it's for the users benefit. To try and stop them from getting a ban. At least that's my opinion on it. If someone is looking to talk themselves into a ban, it's better for it to be in that thread than derailing a real thread for it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on May 02, 2013, 08:21:17 pm
yeah uh what is the purpose of doing this shit (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/i-went-ahead-and-made-it-public--150235.0.html)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 02, 2013, 08:45:23 pm
That has been leaked for ages, seems like syn just rushed to try to do it before seravy did it officialy.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/seravy-wants-leak-mugen-1-1-alpha4-149719.0.html
Still irrelevant.
probably shouldbe moved to found releases instead of mugen discussion or merged to seravy thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 02, 2013, 11:39:15 pm
So... uh... should we make any 1.1 message icons for the 1.0+ mugen board. Or are the differences so small it's not needed?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 02, 2013, 11:41:06 pm
seems irrelevant until there is actually anything made for the system. Considering that it was leaked for months and nothing was done for it, whoever releases now can just put warnings on the thread.

( reminder that it was ages before we separated both kinds of releases )
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 02, 2013, 11:44:58 pm
IIRC there's actually a 1.1 exclusive release already. It's a stage.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 03, 2013, 01:23:19 am
If this is going to become a thing we might as well host it ourselves and put some useful stuff with it. You know, like Kung Fu Man and stuff :P

I think we should trow in some learning stuff like that test dummy character, maybe Divinewolf's KFM if he is willing, etc?

So we can put it in the sticky thread
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 03, 2013, 01:24:42 am
if you want to, im sure you can think of better things to have with it than me, go for it.
I dont think its necessary to make a section for any of it until the releases are more often, tho.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 03, 2013, 01:26:16 am
The releases thing can wait. I'll make a thread to ask for stuff that should be packed into it and put a direct link to it on the sticky.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 03, 2013, 04:19:21 am
If this is going to become a thing we might as well host it ourselves and put some useful stuff with it. You know, like Kung Fu Man and stuff :P
Hmm, I think it would be best not to rush into things. I think it would be prudent if we waited a bit to see what the community and (if they actually react) Elecbyte's reactions will be to this latest leak. This one is pretty big, I think it deserves careful consideration, IMO.

Plus, in the meantime, we can prepare what to include with the alpha, I have a bunch of ideas for that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 03, 2013, 04:23:02 am
Too late :P

You can still let me know what you think should be added. Everyone seems happy with it. Seravy's threat kinda prepared everyone I guess. If Elecbyte actually says something it can easily be removed.

Here's what we got in it so far.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1758331
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 03, 2013, 04:27:15 am
Too late :P
>:[

Still, it gives me an odd feeling, to have it hosted so fast. Especially something so unstable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 03, 2013, 04:28:48 am
That's just from you and Jango's last picnic.
Now tell me what would be good to come with MUGEN!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 03, 2013, 04:31:23 am
I'M TYPING I HAVE LOTS OF IDEAS LIKE DIFFERENT VERSIONS LIKE DEVELOPER AND CONSUMER VERSIONS OR SOMETHING JEEZ STOP BEING SO FAST OMG WHY AM I YELLING
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 03, 2013, 04:32:14 am
YOU'RE SOMETHING UNSTABLE!!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on May 03, 2013, 04:43:20 am
I'm not happy with the leaked Mugen version being advertised and linked through Guild. That doesn't mean don't do it, just that I don't think it should be done. It's against what Elecbyte wants and they're the reason we're all here. The fact that they were on hiatus for years and made a return is the exact reason we shouldn't be spreading a copy of Mugen they don't want spread.

I also realize that I'm a complete hypocrite because I used and released stuff for WinMugen for years.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 03, 2013, 04:50:09 am
Meh, this kinda was the expected outcome. Might as well embrace and promote it now and not several years later.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 03, 2013, 05:16:40 am
I also realize that I'm a complete hypocrite because I used and released stuff for WinMugen for years.
I don't think it's all that hypocritical; this is pretty different situation.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 03, 2013, 10:42:15 am
It's exactly the same. Well, except back then the program was hacked as well. This program is a lot more stable for a lot more people too. It's good to have various versions for people to use. Last time it was even more hypocritical because of all the rules against asking permissions and such. Respect authors, etc

We either bury it or accept it. And I don't see any reason to make it harder for people by burying it.

     Posted: May 03, 2013, 11:12:22 am
Also to note that months back they did say they would release the Alpha anyway. Just never got around to it. This is obviously how they intended to do it!!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 04, 2013, 05:12:53 am
I feel like it's different enough to not have to be hypocritical!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on May 06, 2013, 05:29:24 pm
Guess who's back?

http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1759965

And he hasn't learned a thing.  I already gave him a warning to knock it off, but keep your eyes on him.  I have a feeling he's going to be trouble again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 06, 2013, 08:35:02 pm
Yeesh. At least it seems to have ended, at least for now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 07, 2013, 12:57:04 am
The public debate thread? Oh my goodness no.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 07, 2013, 04:20:45 am
Duck@ss is shitposting really hard. He made almost 20 posts in 24 hours, including an "i is quits the mugen" thread.

For how long do you think it's fair to ban him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 07, 2013, 05:04:14 am
I know that it's Duck@ss and that it won't matter but we really need to get into the habit of giving clear warnings before we ban.
I'm not saying I'm not wanting a break from him. He's making the forum a nightmare as of late.

If you've already given a clear warning I apologize.

Ban him for the 3 months he said he'd be away :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 08, 2013, 04:29:35 pm
anjel just posted on a syn thread where syn asked for help retrieving his lost stuff
he posted with this
http://www.trinitymugen.net/forum/Smileys/classic/pen1_52.gif

and then edited it to this

http://www.trinitymugen.net/forum/Smileys/classic/vdance.gif

i see syn reported him.
i cant see gifs where im at and i dunno whats the content. so, whats the deal on those?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 08, 2013, 04:31:44 pm
1st was clapping penguin.
2nd was dancing smiley face with body

Guess Anjel thought it'd be cute to be a dick for I have no idea why.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 10, 2013, 10:00:56 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1762222

He knows why he was banned. He's just poking. Next poke go ahead and ban again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on May 10, 2013, 10:46:10 pm
No more pokes.  I already warned him twice:  Try to stir up an argument and he gets the boot. 

I've banned him for another week, but since this is coming right off of another week long ban, would anyone object if I bumped it up to a month?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 10, 2013, 10:50:58 pm
hes posting on random topic claiming that people cant ignore his thread.
contrary to popular belief, you should play with a pyre.

that thread should be merged into the shitty thread or deleted.

discussion should start about what to do about him, i didnt read his latest spectacle if he ignoring everyone? throwing insults? flamebaiting? acting oblivious? what?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 10, 2013, 11:04:27 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/a-variety-chars-stages-smoothed-out-growing-list-141455.0.html

ya niggas all fell for his master plan
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 10, 2013, 11:16:55 pm
Yes. I think you should increase it to a month.

It would NOT be hard to post in a sane manner. He's being deliberate. Even he knew he'd be banned and simply didn't care.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on May 10, 2013, 11:22:43 pm
i didnt read his latest spectacle if he ignoring everyone? throwing insults? flamebaiting? acting oblivious? what?
Long story short:

He came back from his first ban and immediately started a thread with the express stated purpose of starting pointless arguments with any members who bothered to reply to him.  I merged that into the shit thread and warned him to stop with his whole "starting arguments as psychological experiments" gimmick.  He ignored me and immediately tried to start an argument with me over the way I phrased the warning.  I gave him another warning and clearly stated that if he made one more post about 'arguing' or 'debating' or any of his crap that he was getting banned.  That was on Monday, and I actually thought he might have gotten the message.  But then he comes back today with this new thread again, topping it off with yet another "LOL I dare you sheeple to argue and debate me I is so smart" rant.

He's a self-obsessed moron, and chances are he's never going to improve his behavior.  Almost every single post I've ever seen out of him is him trying to goad other users into pointless, unnecessary fights all for the purpose of stroking his own ego.  Dude gets off on telling himself that he's 'tricked' other people into getting mad at him.  I say that he be banned for a full month this time, possibly two, and if he still wants to play Asshole Psychiatrist after that we make it permanent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 10, 2013, 11:26:59 pm
I don't like all the perma bans. If he comes back in a month and gets banned again make it 6 months. Pretty soon it'll basically be permanent anyway and we will have to deal with this less and less frequently from him.

Surely once he reaches a year or 2 ban he would either come back more mature or just not come back at all :P

This is my general thought on all bans BTW. Not just his. Unless it's just something crazy severe like another Ash/KFM or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 11, 2013, 07:27:30 am
If he keeps coming back and does the same kinds of things, without any escalation, then I don't think a permaban would be needed. We can just keep increasing each successive ban, IMO.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 11, 2013, 09:52:15 pm
if this bro keeps derailing that thread, he will be up for a promotion.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/creepy-mansion-150188.new.html#new
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on May 11, 2013, 10:10:37 pm
I recommend banning him now for his messages.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 11, 2013, 10:17:33 pm
I think he should get one more chance. But just one, three strikes and you're out and all that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on May 11, 2013, 10:49:07 pm
a short ban should get the message across.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 12, 2013, 12:10:38 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=78678
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=81913

second account for some reason, doesnt seem to be doing anything bad with it, someone please talk to him and see which one he wants to keep.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on May 12, 2013, 12:20:08 am
If he keeps coming back and does the same kinds of things, without any escalation, then I don't think a permaban would be needed. We can just keep increasing each successive ban, IMO.

But at the same time, if he keeps coming back and doing exactly the same things every time are more successive bans going to do anything?  If he's refusing to change his behavior and just waiting for his ban to run out to pick up right where he left off, I don't see any reason to keep giving him opportunities to start again.  We don't need to keep giving people more and more second chances.

In the meantime, I went ahead and bumped him up to a month.

if this bro keeps derailing that thread, he will be up for a promotion.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/creepy-mansion-150188.new.html#new


I think you've given him ample warning.  If he keeps it up then throw him in time-out for a few days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 12, 2013, 01:09:10 am
But at the same time, if he keeps coming back and doing exactly the same things every time are more successive bans going to do anything?
They'll get longer and longer, for one. As long as he doesn't escalate things I just don't see the need to break out the permaban for him.

I mean, at least until he's been banned more than 6 months or something? I dunno.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 12, 2013, 01:18:58 am
If he comes back after a 6 month ban and does it again just make it a year. A YEAR. I mean, we will rarely have to deal with his crap at all if he gets banned each time. Once a year?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 12, 2013, 10:32:41 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/bardockrevenge-66923
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/bardock-6554

alt account, looks like a lost password deal
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 12, 2013, 10:54:29 pm
if this bro keeps derailing that thread, he will be up for a promotion.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/creepy-mansion-150188.new.html#new


Should the fact that this is an English based forum and nobody should have to translate posts (especially since translations will fuck shit up since they only work well for single words and/or generic phrases) every time they want to understand what's going on in a thread be explained to him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 13, 2013, 12:53:29 am
I haven't had stable net connection long enough to keep up, but I'll be home mid-week.  Lucky you!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 13, 2013, 01:25:58 am
Should the fact that this is an English based forum and nobody should have to translate posts (especially since translations will fuck shit up since they only work well for single words and/or generic phrases) every time they want to understand what's going on in a thread be explained to him?

Yeah, if he does it again it needs to be explained why it won't work well and give a warning to not post like that again. Then if he does I guess give a short ban.

@ Miss B: Welcome back... or almost back!

@ everyone: So, any more discussion about Duck@ss? He's lying about his brother hijacking his account but nothing happened out of the ordinary (which with him ordinary is very odd)

Does someone need to tell him to post less or what? Not like it'll matter. With him it's tough to go through the proper channels to warn/ban properly :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on May 19, 2013, 09:05:54 pm
Banned and warned Zeroz for 3 days for offensive language towards homosexuals, specifically in the use of the word "we are dumb fucks spamming this site for ten years" and the phrase "I wonder what that fairy is going to concoct to bury him too". The reason for the short length of the ban is because I don't think he was trying to show hate towards homosexuals, despite how inappropriate and offensive it is. If any of you want to discuss increasing his ban length, feel free to.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 19, 2013, 09:40:58 pm
Ban him forever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 19, 2013, 09:42:51 pm
If any of you want to discuss increasing his ban length, feel free to.
On the one hand, his comments don't warrant ban longer than 3 days, I think, but on the other, he's no stranger to being warned and banned over stuff like this. So maybe his ban should be extended a bit? I dunno.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on May 20, 2013, 02:20:55 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1767009 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1767009)

After thoroughly reviewing the SeanAltly and Zeroz fight from the wrestling thread, after being requested to by SeanAltly, I'm recommending some sort of action to be taken on SeanAltly for his behavior. The link I linked to is my reasoning for this. I realize that he is a strong contributor to Mugen and Mugen Guild, and would not be making this recommendation if he had not asked me to look at these posts under a microscope. I believe he provoked and insulted Zeroz into an argument, even when Zeroz wasn't insulting him, and he continued it even when Zeroz tried to move on. I am aware of Zeroz past behavior, and past and current bans.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 20, 2013, 03:02:39 am
After reading Caddie's post by post review, it looks like Sean said some pretty harsh things that others wouldnt get by with.  Then there is the whole continuing the fight after I told them to knock it off.  Taking into consideration the history between the two and Seans contribution to this place, I'm leaning towards a very stern serious warning not to ever do this again.  If he feels someone is throwing insult after insult, then he needs to report the posts before it gets this far again.  Responding instead with the kind of insults he directed at ZeroZ will be an automatic 3 day ban.  The excuse "he pushes my buttons" won't fly next time. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 20, 2013, 08:23:30 am
After reading that synopsis, I think you should also ban Seanaltly for three days. His attacks were wildly unnecessary. I don't know what was going through his head with those baseless, provocative, insulting posts. Like, there was no conspicuous reason for him to start up their never ending feud again. Because he was defending an actor that doesn't even know he exists? That's silly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 20, 2013, 11:44:36 am
Due to work I haven't had any time to read everything. I've kinda skimmed. From what I've seen it looks like the only thing you (Sean) did that was out of line was insult Zeroz.

Once he started insulting you you should report the post or PM a moderator that you trust in. You have to be careful to fall to that level of insulting someone regardless of contributions and history.

Despite the insults however I don't think anything more than verbal should be given to Sean in this instance. Since it was all geared towards one user that has had a history of causing issues with Sean. If Zeroz is allowed to come back after this and Sean insults again after explicitly being told not to do so then maybe I could see discussing on the grounds of not listening. But other than that, I feel it should just be buried as it is.

I feel Zeroz should be banned for a month since this is NOT his 1st ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 20, 2013, 12:17:26 pm
A stern warning is all that is needed, I think. While his posts in the wrestling thread were completely unneeded, they aren't ban-worthy either. Especially given Zeroz's prior history.

I have discussed this with Iced (he is unavailable) and he agrees that no ban is needed, and that things were not handled well.

RE: Zeroz, I've reread the stuff concerning his previous bans, and I think he should be banned for at least 6 months, if not permabanned. He was banned one month the time before his last ban, and he should've been banned that long last time. Whether he started this or not is irrelevant; his actions are awful, and he does it without provocation, and it's not limited to Sean (see the thing with syn, for one).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 20, 2013, 12:29:07 pm
I think it was handled horribly as well. Banning Zeroz for using "homophobic slurs" is mostly petty since people use those same "slurs" pretty frequently on this very forum. He deserves to be banned because he's a huge disruption and mostly posts contemptibly, not because he posted some bad words that may be homophobic or misogynistic; unless those slurs were directly directed toward someone for their sexual homosexuality or sex/gender, they're just incidental insults used by a juvenile mass during argumentation and deserve no action, even though they're equally abhorrent.

Seanaltly was warned (or at least told or hinted) plenty off times to not argue with Zeroz, and this time he started it up himself. It seems unfair for him to not be at least deserving of a slap on the wrist after this many times of falling into the same thing. Yes, Zeroz is horrible, but, again, Seanaltly overreacted. From an objective standpoint and a equality standpoint, Seanaltly is responsible for this particular incident.

On the other hand, Zeroz is a consistent disruption and an outright horrible user, unlike Seanaltly who just needs to stop overreacting; Zeroz will not bring any good to anyone or anything, given his history. I'm not letting his ban die so easily this time, and since all we're going to do is chit-chat, I'm upping it to 6 months before his 3 days are up. If he comes back and they argue again, I'm banning Sean for 1 week and I'm banning Zeroz permanently, respectively.

They both know better.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 20, 2013, 01:07:49 pm
I agree about the "slurs", it's kind of vague in this case but he needed to be banned.  I'm thinking 3 months for Zeroz since his last ban should have been longer. 

I also think the only time we should be taking a persons past post history and bans into consideration is when deciding the length of a current ban or punishment.  If someone has been banned before, they paid for the crime so to speak.  Making them pay again by saying it's ok for others to break the rules and insult them isnt fair.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on May 20, 2013, 01:43:51 pm
I agree with Rajaa.  Zeroz deserves at least a 6 month ban after this, considering his past behavior.

At the same time, Seanaltly is not blameless in this.  He got way too upset over a fucking disagreement about wrestling of all things, and he ended up being the one flinging most of the personal insults and starting the arguments this time.  It doesn't matter how awful Zeroz is (and he is awful, I'm not disputing that), that doesn't give Seanaltly the right to act even worse than him and get away with it.  I think some kind of action does need to be taken for his behavior.  Just because he's well-respected (or at least he was before he threw this giant hissy fit) doesn't put him above the rules.  I would recommend no more than a 3-day ban if you guys want to take it that far, but at the very least a pretty harsh warning needs to be issued.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on May 20, 2013, 08:49:15 pm
I think it was handled horribly as well. Banning Zeroz for using "homophobic slurs" is mostly petty since people use those same "slurs" pretty frequently on this very forum. He deserves to be banned because he's a huge disruption and mostly posts contemptibly, not because he posted some bad words that may be homophobic or misogynistic; unless those slurs were directly directed toward someone for their sexual homosexuality or sex/gender, they're just incidental insults used by a juvenile mass during argumentation and deserve no action, even though they're equally abhorrent

Yeah I basically did that as a warning to him not to do it anymore. People don't talk like that on this forums, as well they shouldn't. I also mentioned when I did it that a longer ban was up for discussion, I purposely left it open.

I'm up for a warning for Sean and at least an explanation about how, even though he doesn't think what he did was wrong, what he did was wrong. This situation sucks and I'm mad at both of them for it.

Hey Sean. If you're reading this, it looks like you won't be getting any ban for this. If you do get one by some swing towards people wanting that 3 day ban to go in, it'll be for a short time. I'd rather you not be banned honestly. Just don't actively provoke people into stuff like that anymore, ok?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 21, 2013, 01:14:48 am
Didn't catch that this was the same person that was stalking Sean when I skimmed earlier this morning. And that he's been banned THREE times already. IIRC he was banned before we started the 3 day, 1 month, 6 months, year scheme.

So yeah, his ban should stay 6 months. Sean over reacted but no punishment should be given out to him over this due to the way this user likes to toy with Sean. I can understand Sean jumping the gun a bit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 21, 2013, 01:59:49 am
im back bitches.

Sean overreacted, yes, he shouldnt overreact this much. He should stop taking those things to heart so much specially coming from persons that got banned three times already over the same shit.
this is the same user that was sending me pms crying about how he should be allowed to persecute and insult him, this is not someone that is worth mulling time over.


Caddie when you issued the warning to zeroz, to make it over the homophobic slurs and not over his whole behaviour was a big mistake, doing so you basically didnt reinforce that his behaviour was wrong , at the same time warning sean of a possible ban and then let it simmer it just allowed for him to blow up and have everyone poping in and attacking him or whatever. I basically agree with byakko here, in that if sean didnt think zeroz was dealt with before ( and he wasnt because he kept coming back ) his reaction is not out of the blue.

other examples , caddie being sexist towards tempest because he believed she was insulting him ( with example being LAST year ) , syn being racist towards E after E egged him on.  Both those situations while reprehendable ( everyone involved should know better )  does not mean i would warn syn and caddie of the possibility of being banned for overreacting.

so going back at it per points
a- i think its normal that sean would still be pissed at zeroz
b-i think the warning is still legit, dude needs to stop overreacting specially over crap like this
c- this is all the fault of everyone that decided to just let zeroz slip off in his last ban.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1744621

escalating an argument about wrestling up until its about how someone is mooching off the community and questioning their integrity is a terrible way to go at it.
Egging someone on because you dont like him is also a terrible way to go at it, albeit less so.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 21, 2013, 02:38:43 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=81969

banned this account just registered, looks to be zeroz, someone correct me if I'm wrong
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 21, 2013, 02:41:02 am
yeah its zeroz
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 21, 2013, 04:54:40 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/edits-addons-re-elena718-custom-elena-150631.0.html

Has WatsonGrim69 been warned about this in the past? Did we decide if this is actually an issue or should it be up to the author of the work/thread?

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/m-u-g-e-n-discussion-re-shugendo-back-track-150638.msg0.html#new
I activated his account. I guess he lost his email activation or something. Would an admin please merge his accounts?

     Posted: May 21, 2013, 05:14:18 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/projects-re-tekken-and-street-fighter-4-chars-making-150673.0.html
Is there something I as a GM should do about duplicate accounts that are not causing issues? Or is it an admin thing and you just merge them?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 21, 2013, 06:46:55 am
Watson's deal is a big issue, even if some authors are OK with it. He needs a pretty stern warning to cut that shit out pronto, and have it explained to him why it's bad.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on May 21, 2013, 06:52:10 am
Caddie when you issued the warning to zeroz, to make it over the homophobic slurs and not over his whole behaviour was a big mistake, doing so you basically didnt reinforce that his behaviour was wrong , at the same time warning sean of a possible ban and then let it simmer it just allowed for him to blow up and have everyone poping in and attacking him or whatever. I basically agree with byakko here, in that if sean didnt think zeroz was dealt with before ( and he wasnt because he kept coming back ) his reaction is not out of the blue.
First of all, I'm splitting this and merging it with the shit thread. You two don't fight in the wrestling thread anymore. If I see it I'm just gonna split it and trash it, and if it keeps getting worse we're going to take further action.
That's me telling both Sean and Zeroz to knock off that behavior. Which I did before I banned Zeroz because of the stuff he was saying that was inappropriate and then posting here asking if anyone wanted to give him a longer ban for what happened. I did that and the split just to get it out of the wrestling thread. How was that a big mistake?

other examples , caddie being sexist towards tempest because he believed she was insulting him ( with example being LAST year ) , syn being racist towards E after E egged him on.  Both those situations while reprehendable ( everyone involved should know better )  does not mean i would warn syn and caddie of the possibility of being banned for overreacting.
I wasn't attacking women, what I said, and then immediately regretted saying it because of how I realized it sounded, was that I don't think anyone would find her interesting if she wasn't a woman. I made that stupid statement after she had told me that nothing I say is ever interesting or funny. You know what the difference is? I tried to remove it so that it didn't offend anyone, and then I repeatedly apologized for it. Now you don't want me editing my posts if I said something I change my mind on, even if I realize that it sounds offensive and it's only been up for a minute.

Jesus Iced if you're regretting making me an admin just say it and I'll resign.

Eh I guess that does look sexist towards her now that I've had some time to reflect. Sorry.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 21, 2013, 11:56:25 am
I said i could understand what happened. I dont think that sounds like me guilting you into quitting, just pointing out how the situation could be correlated to what happened here and how you can understand what happened within the situation.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 21, 2013, 03:42:59 pm
So we have Zeroz gone for 6 months and Sean a verbal warning.  Is that right?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 21, 2013, 04:13:42 pm
Yeah it's looking that way. And I don't see a need to actually send Sean a message warning him at this point either. He's been keeping an eye on this thread and the one in feedback. He's gotten plenty of warnings and will more than likely NOT repeat this in 6 months if Zeroz comes back.

At least this should aid Sean in thinking we are doing something about Zeroz. And knowing if he actually comes back doing similar in 6 months time he'll then be banned a year should help resolve the situation.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on May 21, 2013, 09:37:01 pm
I said i could understand what happened. I dont think that sounds like me guilting you into quitting, just pointing out how the situation could be correlated to what happened here and how you can understand what happened within the situation.

Iced when you made me an admin you told me that I'd be making decisions. Yet every time you're MIA and I start making decisions, when you get back you public chew me out for "making big mistakes" and then start reversing everything I did. What's the point, why am I here?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 21, 2013, 10:29:44 pm
I said i could understand what happened. I dont think that sounds like me guilting you into quitting, just pointing out how the situation could be correlated to what happened here and how you can understand what happened within the situation.

Iced when you made me an admin you told me that I'd be making decisions. Yet every time you're MIA and I start making decisions, when you get back you public chew me out for "making big mistakes" and then start reversing everything I did. What's the point, why am I here?

ive reversed nothing you made here and actually agreed on warning sean, then pointed out where i thought there was a mistake in communication.
I had already actually told you this, on skype, but thought it would be better to post it so others could gleam it and from observation adapt their behaviour next time. I really dont see why you think im telling you that you are useless or something.
While, as i pointed out i didnt agree on banning sean, if the majority had gone for that its not like me disagreeing meant i would come in here and just undo it, I didnt do it when toni got demodded and I really liked toni, so I really dont see where you are going with that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on May 21, 2013, 10:31:37 pm
I like your answers and will be dropping this issue. Thanks Iced.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 21, 2013, 10:42:26 pm
What's the point, why am I here?
Now that this is resolved I can say what I wanted to say when you 1st posted this!!!

Your hat. Definitely for your hat.

There, I feel better now
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 22, 2013, 12:36:03 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/tekken-and-street-fighter-4-chars-making-145542.0.html

29 pages of telling him to stop producing so many betas. At this point we get it. I think there should be a blanket statement message telling people to stop discussing his number of unfinished works.

IN THE MEANTIME you guys can continue to jump on Chuchoryu's ass, and drive him away making him feel like shit.

Good job, soldiers.
Basically I feel this as well and would like it to stop before this happens (again). I think it might have already happened but the topic's a bit hard to follow :P

     Posted: May 22, 2013, 01:08:35 am
Meh, I just split the last 4 pages and made a post about it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 29, 2013, 06:15:08 am
So there was a topic on the FG board about characters that should've been in SFxT, and then Duck made a desperate, completely off-topic ploy for attention:
I got chuchoryu's permision to update his characters and release here,I have planed to work on more characters like:
-chun-li (one help do I use SF3 sprites or CvS?)
-M.bison (I have added shadoloo efect with PALfx)
-ryu
-ken
also one question should I improve pandora mode it can be awesome?
enough to say but I planed more of them.
Hasn't Duck been warned before about this kinda stuff before? I think it's time to start talking about banning, maybe?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on May 29, 2013, 04:48:06 pm
Yes, his stupid-troll behaviour is not getting any better, there's no doubt that he is making those posts just to annoy people.
Did we already ban him? We can give him a day off as a serious warning to stop it.
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Ehm, yeah, I've been lurking a lot without saying anything, sorry.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 29, 2013, 05:16:03 pm
I think Iced gave him an actual warning about the way he's posting.

We should probably give him 1 more stern warning before we do our 3 day ban. As much as I'd like to go straight to banning him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on May 29, 2013, 05:56:29 pm
personally could go with the banning at any time if you ask me

Ehm, yeah, I've been lurking a lot without saying anything, sorry.
:tipshat:

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on May 29, 2013, 07:05:36 pm
I don't like the idea of banning people just for being annoying at all, but it's definitely seeming like Duck is doing this on purpose.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 30, 2013, 08:09:34 am
One last, final warning seems fair.

I don't like the idea of banning people just for being annoying at all, but it's definitely seeming like Duck is doing this on purpose.
I thought he was just being annoying due to language barriers and him just being weird in general, but that post I quoted really cemented my view that he's doing (most) of this stuff on purpose. And even if he wasn't... well, he's just not fitting in at all, and keeps causing disruptions. If he can't ship up then he shouldn't be here.

     Posted: May 30, 2013, 08:14:35 am
Also, duplicate accounts
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/xasor-80551
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/renegade-80751
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Koop on June 05, 2013, 08:09:28 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/custom-soul-81844

this guy keeps derailing threads with his "knowledge" (sarcasm) of fighting game mechanics. He's posting like crazy all over and nothing he says is of significance to anything. He has already been warned by Jmorphman and I've warned him by pm today.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 05, 2013, 08:16:58 pm
He's also a gimmick. Ban 3 days, pm him not to post in gimmick anymore, not to derail, and not to use image macros when he gets back.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 05, 2013, 09:07:39 pm
I just told him to stop posting as Dan, to stop posting image macros, etc. (before seeing this)

In any case, I think we should wait for his reaction to that warning before a ban. Who knows, he could suddenly right himself!

Well, I can dream, can't I?

No one took care of the double accounts, then?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 05, 2013, 09:20:23 pm
Jmorph: He was still posting that way after Koot sent a PM with the same exact warning. He doesn't need to be warned by pm twice. Also please let me know how you know those two accounts are duplicate.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 05, 2013, 09:50:15 pm
I warned him publicly, in his thread, about the specific things he needed to stop. He stopped going into people's threads and posting about his "fighting game knowledge" (which said PM warned him about doing), so I think it's worth a shot to see if he follows this last one. He hasn't had duplicate warnings.

As for the double account stuff: http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/your-releases-mugen-1-0-savage-hulk-1-0-by-renegade-aka-xasor-150847.0.html

Different emails, different IP, but the character the new guy released is the one the old guy was working on. And he says it's by "Renegade aka Xaso"

I mean I dunno, it isn't a slam dunk, but it seems pretty likely.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 06, 2013, 07:37:01 pm
Custom Soul's sig said:
CURRENT CREDITS FOR CHAIN DOG
README:Thanks to me for awesome char!
Fuck to Titiln for daring me and asking for Kouryu Rekka and Gadouken to the face!
And also, fuck Russians...
His display name is also now DAN HIBIKI. -_-

Pretty light stuff, relatively, but he was on very thin ice. Time for a time out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on June 06, 2013, 07:41:34 pm
banned as he posted: like dan hibiki
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on June 06, 2013, 07:53:18 pm
Yeah, I think a couple of days is fair.  A slap on the wrist plus a PM telling him to shape up should nip this one in the bud.

Either that or he'll come back and start roleplay spazzing even harder.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 06, 2013, 07:57:38 pm
Shoulda done it when I suggested. Next time I'm just gonna do it, softies!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on June 06, 2013, 08:16:43 pm
Power to Caddie.  :yippi:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 06, 2013, 08:31:34 pm
Waiting for his reaction to the other, specific warning was the right call. We've gained some insight on him: he nominally followed the warning, but used his profile to take potshots around it. Might want to consider cursing his profile when he gets back. And watch for him trying to find loopholes around stuff.

Oh and I sent him a PM.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 09, 2013, 01:20:26 am
Just a heads up, RobotMonkeyHead's ban expires tomorrow, so we could be in for some more craziness. Or, maybe, he'll have calmed down. Who knows?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 09, 2013, 02:02:09 am
Thanks for the heads up. :)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 09, 2013, 02:09:25 am
Think he'll be shooting for a 6 month hiatus? There are easier ways to take a hiatus...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on June 09, 2013, 04:15:20 am
Clearly he's just going to try and explain how he was demonstrating the usefulness of heated arguing and debates by performing sophisticated psychological experiments on whether or not this user base had the mental fortitude to resist reading his posts about how he is never flame baiting or Jesus H Christ I can't even pretend to talk like that guy without feeling dirty.

Let's just hope he behaves himself this time around.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on June 09, 2013, 12:02:56 pm
How about you guys wait to see if he's disruptive or breaking rules or even wants to come back before discussing his next ban. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on June 09, 2013, 04:18:01 pm
Well, obviously we're going to wait and see what he does, if anything at all.  Hopefully, nothing happens.  But I don't see the harm in keeping an eye out for a habitual troublemaker, either.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 13, 2013, 02:14:10 am
Banned Doraemariby (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/doraemariby-82081) for continually reviving one year old dead topics with pointless posts. For one day with the reason telling him to stop it. The reason he's banned is because he kept doing it after I warned him through PM, so this is to prevent him from continuing to do it.

You've been reviving a lot of dead topics lately. Stop doing that. If a topic hasn't been posted in a long time, don't reply to it. There's a big red warning when you try that for a reason.
I'd like to meet Captain Cat Kit from Rakuga Kids and Arthur, Frank West from UMVC3, Sackboy from PSABR, and Dexter from Punch Time Explosion, and Rario from SCWU.

Check the times.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2013, 02:52:07 am
Ordinarily necros in non-MUGEN areas aren't a problem, right?

This of course being a special case.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 13, 2013, 02:56:20 am
It really depends. For example, I left the SSF4 one because that thread, even though inactive for a period of time, still gets revived because the game is active. Plus I believe there's another update coming for it soon. It's still bad to have the front page of a forum be littered with inactive old topics that have been bumped for 'no content' posts, especially if it's continuously happening. It pushes new, active topics down and confuses people into believing that whatever the topic is about is new.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2013, 07:27:30 pm
Doraemariby is unbanned and back to :necro: ing

Was he only banned for a day? Wait... it still shows that he's banned, but it shows zero days left. Hmm, wasn't there an issue where people couldn't be banned a single day or something?

I'm going to set it to two, cause he's still Turbo Revival-ing.

(why the fuck did I add those puns)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 13, 2013, 09:50:52 pm
Where are his new posts that he was necroing? The ones that you gave him an additional ban for?

     Posted: June 13, 2013, 09:56:30 pm
Can a mod or admin talk to this guy? All he does is post unrelated shit in random threads.
There's a dude that was posting a lot of images that were completely unrelated to the threads. His threads were reported. Mods, where are you? I see a ton of you online but none of you have done anything about this. This is an ongoing thing. Do we need to look for more mods?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2013, 10:02:39 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/gazira-18056
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/gaziraagain-81949

Double account. Lost password/email type deal.

Also, Soknasful is posting random, out of context images again:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/shadowdraygon/carlnoel.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/shadowdraygon/carlnoel.png)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
IIRC someone talked to him about this, but IDK, I'm not positive.

/me Sees Caddie's post
I'm here! Solving reports! >:[
Lemme find the necros. Watch this space. Also, I didn't increase the ban, I made it work. He wasn't actually banned. I think.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 13, 2013, 10:03:51 pm
He didn't make any new posts since I banned him, as far as I can tell. You said he was still posting. Are you talking about Walt's new reports? Those were old posts made before the ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2013, 10:04:35 pm
Yeah I misread, my bad. Buncha new reports, thought he was banned earlier yestertday, etc.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 13, 2013, 10:06:57 pm
so the guy got rebanned without doing anything wrong?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2013, 10:08:35 pm
He was still banned. His previous ban would've still be in effect, even now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 13, 2013, 10:08:43 pm
The ban was to prevent him from continuing to revive topics, and included a message in the reasons asking him to stop. Plus I sent him a pm before I banned him like I said. He should get the message by now so I'm going to unban him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2013, 10:10:32 pm
Three hours early? Are you mad?!?!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 13, 2013, 10:13:35 pm
Caddie the Slightly Lenient.

I pmed Soknasful about his images and Gazira about his double account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 16, 2013, 10:34:04 am
So this happened. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1781290)

Gave him a suggestion about slowing down his posting, also PM'd it. If he continues to freak out about people with MLP avatars or what have you he should get a stern warning, I guess.

     Posted: June 16, 2013, 10:35:56 am
Oh and this is the necrobump enthusiast guy from earlier.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 16, 2013, 01:30:59 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=82107
this dude sent me a pm trying to spread his release, I directed him to the release section and told him to start up a thread there. if he needs any help give him a hand.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 16, 2013, 02:50:00 pm
So this happened. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1781290)

Gave him a suggestion about slowing down his posting, also PM'd it. If he continues to freak out about people with MLP avatars or what have you he should get a stern warning, I guess.

      Posted: June 16, 2013, 10:35:56 am
Oh and this is the necrobump enthusiast guy from earlier.
Yeah if he keeps it up I'm going to suggest to him that he stop posting for a while and look at how this forum is, what it's about, and how people use it before he posts again. Hopefully he'll catch on before it needing to come to that.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=82107
this dude sent me a pm trying to spread his release, I directed him to the release section and told him to start up a thread there. if he needs any help give him a hand.

Gotcha, will do. Thanks Iced.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 18, 2013, 09:19:06 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/diba-released-borewoodwerewood-13613-151355.0.html
-_-

Just really makes you love this community. Something something about how unwelcoming this place can be sometimes, something something we need to work on fixing it. Fill in the blank. Whatever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 18, 2013, 09:22:53 pm
Locked it. That topic would never have been what a release thread should be.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 18, 2013, 09:32:50 pm
Werewood's releases shouldn't be locked just because they attract a bunch of off-topic nonsense. It's our job to keep things on topic, not just lock them up, IMO. The current situation isn't fair to anyone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 18, 2013, 10:48:42 pm
There is nothing good that's going to come out of it. Werewood isn't here so he's not going to be reading feedback. And a good majority of the posts in the thread are attacking him. There is no point in keeping the topic open. If this wasn't found releases it would be different. But because it is I'm keeping it locked.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 18, 2013, 10:58:10 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1783163

Apparently he is reading feedback (the MFFA link doesn't work for me, not sure if I have to register or it's because I'm on a phone)

In any case, even if he weren't, as long as any off topic posts are deleted (and I doubt anyone would've tested that edict much), the topic would've been fine. The damage already happened, locking it doesn't solve much, I think.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 18, 2013, 11:02:28 pm
Most of the posts would have to be deleted. If you wanna delete every off topic post, and I mean every single post that doesn't refer to the character itself, and reopen it with a warning then feel free to. If not then leave it locked because it wasn't getting any feedback. I'm not gonna spend hours arguing with you about it, those are your two options. I'm leaving the choice to you, k? :)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 18, 2013, 11:24:41 pm
Dude I'm not trying to get into some hours-long argument or something, I just think it was unfair to Werewood and people who are actually interested in leaving feedback to lock the topic. :I

I can easily clean the thread up, but... hmm, I think all this raises a question of what the SOP should be on things like this. In this and similar cases, I always put my foot down, tell people to stay on topic, and delete any further off topic posts (or split off to the shit thread, if need be), but not the posts preceding mine. Should we start deleting those too? Or is this case special? I can see good arguments for either side, so I think we should have an official guideline for this kinda thing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 18, 2013, 11:27:21 pm
This is a special case because the topic was pure garbage for a release thread. Most of the times there is something worth salvaging. This time it wasn't the case. Usually it does work to just put the foot down and say "no more after this post". When most of the posts in the thread are off topic and contain insults then I think it's better to take it a step further.

Dude I'm not trying to get into some hours-long argument or something, I just think it was unfair to Werewood and people who are actually interested in leaving feedback to lock the topic. :I

If those people were actually around I wouldn't have locked it in the first place. I hope that if you do decide to clean the topic and reopen it that they start showing up because what people were saying about Werewood in that topic was bogus.

Yall know how I am by now, it's not about the past with me. It's about what's going on right now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 19, 2013, 02:49:10 am
It's best to remove the offtopic posts in this case since there are so many. Unlock it and give a universal warning to only give character feedback.
Locking doesn't solve anything. It actually only punishes the view that might actually want to give decent feedback. Then they have to make a whole new topic just to do that while that one's sitting right there collecting virtual dust.

Once a universal warning is given after a clean job these things rarely flare up again. If so then it's an easy way to spurge some problem users.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 19, 2013, 08:39:21 am
This is a special case
What? This is not a special case.

Don't punish the people who potentially have something useful to say just because a bunch of angry people need to express their hateful opinions. Delete the horrible posts and post a warning in the thread for anyone who thinks it's a good idea to go into the topic and post drivel.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 19, 2013, 09:09:00 am
You completely misunderstood my post or didn't read Jmorph's post.
I can easily clean the thread up, but... hmm, I think all this raises a question of what the SOP should be on things like this. In this and similar cases, I always put my foot down, tell people to stay on topic, and delete any further off topic posts (or split off to the shit thread, if need be), but not the posts preceding mine. Should we start deleting those too? Or is this case special?

This is a special case because the topic was pure garbage for a release thread. Most of the times there is something worth salvaging. This time it wasn't the case. Usually it does work to just put the foot down and say "no more after this post". When most of the posts in the thread are off topic and contain insults then I think it's better to take it a step further.

I've dealt with this stuff before and just said "no more posts like this" in threads where a majority of the thread is on topic posts. This thread had a majority of off topic posts meaning that saying "no more posts like this" wasn't good enough. So how is it not a special case for the reason I said?

Don't punish the people who potentially have something useful to say just because a bunch of angry people need to express their hateful opinions. Delete the horrible posts and post a warning in the thread for anyone who thinks it's a good idea to go into the topic and post drivel.

This is what actually happened now. Check the thread yourself.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/diba-released-werewood-13613-151355.0.html (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/diba-released-werewood-13613-151355.0.html)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 19, 2013, 02:30:19 pm
You think I made that post without reading all of the context?



It's not a special case because you can just delete the posts since all of them are horrible. In a thread where horrible posts are mixed in with useful posts, that's when you should post a warning saying not to make any more horrible posts.

In the situation that happened, you could have deleted all the horrible posts, and then you could have posted a warning for people who would wonder how their horrible posts disappeared.

Also, it's not special because it's not the first time this has happened. Whole threads were restarted (by deletion/splitting) before because all the posts in them were horrible.

horrible posts = useless/insulting posts
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 19, 2013, 03:52:06 pm
Jmorph asked if every time off topic posts should be cleared from now on. I said no and called this a special case because most of the time the deleting doesn't need to happen. You and I are not in disagreement and never were except for you thinking that threads like this aren't a rare exception where posts need to be deleted before the warning. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 20, 2013, 11:15:15 pm
guys, if you rename the shit thread with someone name you are basically putting a spotlight on the person.

doing that with a newcomer is specially antagonizing as they are more likely to not know how to react.

What good do you expect to come out of it?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 21, 2013, 12:20:15 am
Someone did that? No, BAD! We are NOT MUGEN DEV. I used to hate the way they changed usernames and renamed threads to make fun of users.

We don't promote antagonizing posts towards any individuals. Renaming a thread with a username is very blatant.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 21, 2013, 01:43:56 am
'Twas the first thing that came to mind. I'll change it.

Oh right, forgot to post this last night. I... well, not warned, but encouraged Doraemariby to slow down with his posting, because he keeps creating new threads without much substance, replies to everyone who posts in said thread, and pretty much everyone who has replied to him since he's been here has been making fun of him (not really unjustly, but... I dunno)

I'm not sure what to do about the whole thing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on June 21, 2013, 03:04:22 am
he's harmless enough, but he could put a bit more thought before pushing the post button
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on June 21, 2013, 03:26:52 am
He's pretty much the latest clueless poster 'round these parts.  Just like DuckSS, Celest, Drewski, or Pikachu Guy before him:  He'll end up either burning himself out and leaving the picture entirely or settle into a less obtrusive kind of annoying-ness that everyone else will tolerate.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 21, 2013, 03:41:07 am
How dare you lump drewski in with those ruffians!

Also I get the sense that he's more liable to have an epic flameout unlike any of those guys listed, and more along the lines of PeterFoster.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Koop on June 21, 2013, 10:26:55 am
Eventually the other users will reply less to him, so I don't see an issue.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 21, 2013, 03:03:58 pm
Limiting his daily posts to 3 or 4 would be a good way to deal with him, imo.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 25, 2013, 12:47:46 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/ruby-heart-released-151580.20.html
just banned ihatemugen for three days, look at the fucking mess he keeps doing on a thread even after I tell them to drop it, and posting macros repeatedly too.

He was banned for the standard three days, please argue over it.

also the thread probably needs a cleanup, mouser probably read over the thread after the bunch of replies and only then quit, i ean, who would like to come back to his thread to find a bunch of macros and shit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 25, 2013, 01:09:27 pm
1st time ban? Just keep it 3 days.

Maybe it'd be easier just to ban Mouser when he finally returns again since he does this every time :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 26, 2013, 10:01:27 pm
Bunch of people posting and posting on the shit thread as if it was some sort of spam area.
I locked it until we have need of it again, fuck this noise.

Also, since duck is claiming again that he is another person using his account we might need to look into that and into everyone else that was posting there.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 26, 2013, 10:18:51 pm
Duck is lying his ass off again with this "oh no my brother was the one who actually posted all the bad stuff, not me!" I don't understand why he thought it would work this time, when no one bought it last time.

I think it would be worth posting something in the shit thread to the effect of "this forum is not a chatroom, do not treat it as such. Do not spam basic messages for pages and pages." Or something like that. Unless anyone has any objections I'll post that in a shortly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on June 26, 2013, 10:20:53 pm
Once again, why does it exist?  Do we need to rethink even HAVING it?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 26, 2013, 10:29:45 pm
okay, shall we begin?

Well yes, they want us to speak like shit in this thread instead of that mess.



bye, have a beautiful time

banned both for a day.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 26, 2013, 10:38:40 pm
I'm pretty sure Hyogo was just joking, even though he partook in the shitfest. sarif though... I'm not so sure about that guy.

Once again, why does it exist?  Do we need to rethink even HAVING it?
I see it as a steam release or something. When threads get derailed, if the posts were just deleted, there'd still usually be a lot of animosity between two or more users, and the shit thread allows that to peter off and die out.

Besides, this could've just as easily happened in Random Topic instead.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 26, 2013, 10:41:38 pm
its supposed to be a derail thread, other threads that dont merit their own thread or that are parts of derails get merged there until conversation about them peters out and dies, instead of just making the derails disappear.

Its basically there for stuff that doesnt warrant a thread of its own but that isnt necessarily bad and needs to get deleted.


what the fuck is happening here
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/awakened-terry-v3-official-release-updated-5213-150194.msg1787917.html#msg1787917
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 26, 2013, 10:51:24 pm
Standard off-topic nonsense. Well, maybe not that standard since all that bullshit came after a direct warning to cut that shit out or your post would be deleted...

What has been going on lately? Full moon?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on June 26, 2013, 10:54:09 pm
yes, plus Mercury is retrograde.


Its basically there for stuff that doesnt warrant a thread of its own but that isnt necessarily bad and needs to get deleted.


Isnt that what the random topic is?

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 26, 2013, 11:00:25 pm
random topic is so people can talk about random topics without making a thread "this isnt worth a thread so i made it a random topic of the day"
derail thread is a merging of other threads, you have used this before.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Koop on June 26, 2013, 11:07:18 pm
This could have been resolved with pms. I've unbanned them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on June 26, 2013, 11:08:19 pm
Except people do start new topics in the derail thread and have for quite a while.  The derail thread is for off topic stuff from other threads that doesnt need to be it's own thread, is that right?  Then when it's merged, it sometimes makes no sense anyway, so why not just delete?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 26, 2013, 11:14:19 pm
you are repeating yourself, and making us repeat ourselves.

its supposed to be a derail thread, other threads that dont merit their own thread or that are parts of derails get merged there until conversation about them peters out and dies, instead of just making the derails disappear.

Its basically there for stuff that doesnt warrant a thread of its own but that isnt necessarily bad and needs to get deleted.



what the fuck is happening here
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/awakened-terry-v3-official-release-updated-5213-150194.msg1787917.html#msg1787917

I'm pretty sure Hyogo was just joking, even though he partook in the shitfest. sarif though... I'm not so sure about that guy.

Once again, why does it exist? Do we need to rethink even HAVING it?
I see it as a steam release or something. When threads get derailed, if the posts were just deleted, there'd still usually be a lot of animosity between two or more users, and the shit thread allows that to peter off and die out.

Besides, this could've just as easily happened in Random Topic instead.




     Posted: June 26, 2013, 11:24:57 pm
This could have been resolved with pms. I've unbanned them.
thanks koop, the temporary ban was just so they would stop "lololo shitposting yolo" all over the place., it should have passed on the message.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on June 26, 2013, 11:32:03 pm
you are repeating yourself, and making us repeat ourselves.

Actually I was asking for clarification, because it seems like a totally worthless thread that no one should be making new new topics in, but don't worry boss  I wont ask again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 26, 2013, 11:35:39 pm
you can ask anytime you want, but the way you worded it made it seem like you were just asking the same thing again.

Asking why its not deleted, its because:
Quote
doesnt warrant a thread of its own but that isnt necessarily bad and needs to get deleted.
Quote
if the posts were just deleted, there'd still usually be a lot of animosity between two or more users, and the shit thread allows that to peter off and die out.

completely deleting the derail will cause the subject to just remain hanging.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 27, 2013, 09:08:03 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/how-mask-your-ip-address-151641.0.html
you have got to be fucking kidding me
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 27, 2013, 09:15:10 am
Deleted it. No reason at all for that to be there. Also, those sites suck, only morons use them; they're only for getting to blocked sites while at work or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 29, 2013, 03:17:46 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1789365
So I had to ban sarifFIXIT for repeating his spamming that got him banned for an hour a few days ago and ignoring my repeated warnings to stop.

I know he was banned for an hour already but I think we should consider this his 1st real ban and leave it at 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 29, 2013, 07:33:59 pm
A 3 day ban is fine, he's been warned beyond protocol.

This sarif guy is like Riptide.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 29, 2013, 07:35:43 pm
I think its a little too much, but I went away mid discussion and didnt really follow it much after.  Ive checked and he pretty much dismissed my post. I wish we could teach him a bit more instead of just telling him he is spamming and dusting him away but after all those explanations i have a hard time figuring out how... maybe pms?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 03, 2013, 05:20:44 am
Robotmonkeyhead was banned again because

Quote
Reposting stuff that was deleted, constantly trying to argue and cause disruptions, poles.

Besides the fact that he keeps trying to start arguments and take passive aggresssive jabs at the staff, and complain about stuff he got banned over, and refusing to let any of this go...he edited the first couple of posts in his release thread, replacing them with that "you are forced to read this" post and the "check out this proxy website" posts that were recycled or merged to the shit thread already. I want him banned for good. No matter how long of a ban he has, he's going to come back, he's going to make the same posts, he's going to try the same things. He's probably gonna ban evade to complain about the ban and the staff, either through posts on the site or through pms. The only reason he seems to post on the site is to do stuff like this. I don't see any reason to not ban him permanently.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 03, 2013, 05:34:08 am
While I don't think he's really done anything bad enough to warrant a permaban, there is literally no chance that he will improve and stop being a crazy person, and won't eventually earn a permaban. Might as well get it over with now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 03, 2013, 11:18:29 am
If we keep going in increments he wouldn't be able to come back for a year. Is that not permanent enough?
Then if he repeats it would be 2 years.

EDIT: Wait, he's going up to the 6 month increment now, isn't he. Meh still good enough.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 03, 2013, 02:19:29 pm
Nothing productive is going to come from giving him the benefit of the doubt here.  We ban him for six months and you know what will happen? Exactly six months for now he'll come back and immediately start in on the same old bullshit again.  Incrementally larger bans only work for people who at least try to improve. RMH is unwilling to even try.  All he wants to do is start arguments and stroke his own ego.  Permaban him and let's put an end to this crap once and for all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 04, 2013, 12:42:10 am
I'm not in any way defending him or pushing for a shorter ban. I don't really care TBH.

I just want to point out that I think his situation is still a good example of using the increment system. It's not like he has enough time to cause a lot of trouble in the little time he's here. And he could finally outgrow it later on.

The petty little disturbances he causes between bans are nothing. And will continue to have much longer gaps if he is really that screwed up in the head to wait 6 months, then a year, then 2 years, etc...

I mean, that's a dedicated troll =p

Again, if you ban him longer, then okay. Final choice of length should come down to the person that banned unless overridden by an admin. And an admin banned him anyway so I guess it can only be overridden by God aka Valodim
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 04, 2013, 03:49:46 am
I think it's a bad use of the increment system, in that it won't be useful at all to use it with him. He will come back, and he won't be any different, and he'll still be trying to cause problems. But I do appreciate your opinion on it. :)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 10, 2013, 05:21:03 am
Banned mahboi. Why? Because he made this account:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.summary;u=82303 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.summary;u=82303)

Check the post history too for his one post.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 10, 2013, 05:23:02 am
...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 10, 2013, 05:25:15 am
the last time he had been on had been 26 days ago, when he changed his email to gibberish in an attempt to trash his account.

So he returned, logged in, made a new account called nigger and tried to post about his love for cocks a whole month later.

that's some dedication there.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 14, 2013, 12:42:44 am
I was warned that the registration questions were bugging out, I reduced them from five to three. If you see a larger number of bots warn me and I will remake some of them and increase it.
cheers.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 19, 2013, 09:16:02 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/dawsonlam-44337
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/xxwatashiwabosuxx-81708

Sockpuppet. Not even trying. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/problem-exploding-distance-152027.0.html)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 19, 2013, 10:29:00 pm
punched them together.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 19, 2013, 10:31:18 pm
I was warned that the registration questions were bugging out, I reduced them from five to three. If you see a larger number of bots warn me and I will remake some of them and increase it.
cheers.

There's been a few recently. I've cleaned out two or three the past week. Sucks that they were bugging out because it really helped.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 19, 2013, 10:33:23 pm
we can make new ones, hit me up on skype.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 19, 2013, 10:53:41 pm
punched them together.
Warning or ban?

I think it was Caddie who suggested we do a three day ban for alt accounts, and since this guy obviously hasn't lost his password or wanted a name change, I'm inclined to agree. A short ban to show how serious this is.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 19, 2013, 10:55:30 pm
go for it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 23, 2013, 09:00:48 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/iphoenix-82055
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/stars4ugamings-82393
Alt account... maybe? (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2010-glitchbugproblem-151467.msg1802209.html#msg1802209)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 25, 2013, 06:01:58 pm
So, this guy:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/a-ghost-dan-82394

This is that Custom Soul kid again, right?  The IPs don't match, but he's doing the same "fighting game knowledge" shtick and being needlessly offensive about everything.  And also the whole 'Dan Hibiki' thing.  What should we do with him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on July 25, 2013, 06:08:36 pm
Regardless of who he is, he's gimmicking. His posts barely make sense and all he's doing is whining and attacking people.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 25, 2013, 06:09:20 pm
Good point.  I'll send him a PM; warn him to cut it out.

     Posted: July 26, 2013, 02:45:06 am
So, I sent him a warning, and then almost immediately after he gets reported for making another unnecessary personal attack post.  I've given him another warning, and let him know that the next time it happens he's getting banned.  If anyone else sees him pulling this crap again, go ahead and slap him with 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 28, 2013, 06:49:27 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/uhhhh--152470.msg1805868.html#msg1805868

so this happened.

for starters dorae is lying, Since he was posting for a good while after jango "joke"



He was posting nine days ago, the jango telling him to delete his system32 folder ( which jango should be warned about) was in that thread where jmorphman renamed it into something about dorae.
This is extremelly shithead behaviour and I dont know why its being supported. Is there any interest in going the trinity/mugendev route here?  Because thats the kind of behaviour I would expect from people there.

guys, if you rename the shit thread with someone name you are basically putting a spotlight on the person.

doing that with a newcomer is specially antagonizing as they are more likely to not know how to react.

What good do you expect to come out of it?

the shit thread title is again marking up someone as a target

"Troll or just really dense, you decide etc etc"

the bits of thread derail added which were put at the time of the thread shift are

How much does it cost for full characters, because a WH2 NES styled Mario character would be really cool,

You realize the commission rate is for characters he's SPRITING, not coding, right?

You realize the commission rate is for characters he's SPRITING, not coding, right?

Oh, is he already doing a Mario sprite then?


Why would he need to make NES World Heroes 2 Mario sprites when they already exist?

THINK, MCFLY


Why would he need to make NES World Heroes 2 Mario sprites when they already exist?

THINK, MCFLY

They would be awesome redone in a CVS ish style.

(Offtopic) Did you ever release that Mario for Mugen?


That's a reshade job, this is a thread for making new sprites that don't exist.

And yes, to address your offtopic, I did release it. The link is in my signature. If you can't see it, you have a problem with your computer, which can be corrected by navigating to C:/Windows/ , and then deleting the folder System32.


That's a reshade job, this is a thread for making new sprites that don't exist.

And yes, to address your offtopic, I did release it. The link is in my signature. If you can't see it, you have a problem with your computer, which can be corrected by navigating to C:/Windows/ , and then deleting the folder System32.

Well, I deleted the folder, what do I click?


...

Now you're gonna need to call a priest over to your house because you need an exorcism.


...

Now you're gonna need to call a priest over to your house because you need an exorcism.

Maybe later, I'm going to eat breakfast.


Which could have been solved earlier by just explaining the guy that he was posting on the wrong thread and why, instead of having someone telling him to deleted his windows folder.
Even if the posts ended up deleted what was the derail discussion that could have been continued from here?

Now its a bunch of people jumping on him because the thread title identified him as a target.

Why do you this


Did I cause this?
Jmorphman had already been talked to in private, but I decided to make this post to warn jango as well.
This kind of shit, telling someone to delete their accounts, following them around , telling them to quit, is not acceptable.

At any rate DORA is lying and making up shit and keeping that route i will be banning him shortly, for starters his double account is vanishing, he has the old account the email is fine, so he can retrieve the email for that one if he wants.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 01, 2013, 12:03:02 am
As usual, Balthazar your penis exploding prite-work makes my eyes spew out namekian blood of amazement.
Wait a minute?
Well done Cybaster! Very fluid, very nice. Much like me in bed....
Are they the same guy? Hmmm... they are from different countries.
But I still have the idea they're the same guy...

same guy, i checked, ban or what?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 01, 2013, 08:57:16 am
Why is everyone using this thread for warnings stuff instead of the actual warnings thread? :S
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 01, 2013, 09:24:29 am
it says decisions ive been using it when decisions are being made or asked about D: Warnings when its things i straight up do.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 01, 2013, 09:27:25 am
Basically, anything that's not about members goes here.
:P

You have broken the most important tenets of the forum.

probably
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 01, 2013, 10:53:45 am
I have no idea what you are talking about this is obviously THE RIGHT thread. :mugoi:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on August 03, 2013, 02:04:02 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/anthony-the-saiyan-82455

I sent a PM asking which of this threads he wanted to keep, if one of you wants to delete/move without waiting for a reply go ahead. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 03, 2013, 04:30:22 pm
I merged both, so he keeps both, but he cant keep a thread of those in fighting games obviously.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 04, 2013, 08:00:47 pm
dorae whats his name has 10 posts a day, about three of them were daily new threads he made each day, the other half are him feigning ignorance and answering people that werent asking him stuff.
I forbid him from making new threads.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 04, 2013, 08:49:38 pm
I noticed he had a higher post per day count than even you. Dude needed to chill with it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 08, 2013, 11:42:45 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/animaniacsfan-81413 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/animaniacsfan-81413)

Fairly sure this person is a troll who is posting intentionally bad releases.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 08, 2013, 01:33:18 pm
pm him, question him, if the answer doesnt please you delete his access.One thing is newbies learning things and working through their stuff, another is someone cluttering the release threads with bad releases on purpose because they had sex with orochi gill once and then orochi didnt return the call the next day. This place isnt an outlet to work out your traumas.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on August 08, 2013, 02:21:29 pm
It's either that or he's actually only 9-10 years old like he appears to be.  In either case he shouldn't be posting here anyway.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 09, 2013, 09:55:59 am
I don't think it's a troll situation, I think it's more like Wlanmanx and the like, who get hounded by people with too much time on their hands. Only in this case, he's firing back.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 10, 2013, 10:00:06 pm
Anti-11 deserves a 3 day ban, immediately.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 10, 2013, 10:03:16 pm
Could you at least explain why when you say something like that?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 10, 2013, 10:06:42 pm
Yeah, sorry about that (on my phone right now)

He was being a real dick in one of SolidZone's threads (the no one is replying to my topics one). Which is whatever. But then he goes and discourages a new user, telling them not to make crap like alexlexus or else (as seen in the shit thread). That shit is diabolical. One of the worst things one can do in this community.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 11, 2013, 06:11:30 am
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

OH boo who make a thread about noone replying to your topics so the fuck what this is making you look like a attention whore
if people want to reply they'll reply so stop your whining and begging and go on with your business its not a big deal geez
take your time on the character, study the documents, and dont do a half ass job on that we dont want another shitty mugen character in here like alexlexus' crap okay
All I said was don't fuck up the project in a nice way seriously read damnit
mugen or anything other thing if people want to make something then take your time in it lately people just be doing a half ass job and whining about no comments or why people dont respond who the fuck cares only thing that matters is making stuff look decent for people give what the people want and that's something decent
We need to send a message that this behavior will not be tolerated. And a warning will not suffice.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 11, 2013, 12:34:55 pm
He went right back to unnecessarily harassing people after being told not to harass people less than 24 hours before his last incident of harassment. I banned him for 3 days.

My first post in half a month and I'm already banning somebody. Woohoo.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 12, 2013, 07:45:20 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/animaniacsfan-81413 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/animaniacsfan-81413)

Fairly sure this person is a troll who is posting intentionally bad releases.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1814025
he made a new post. I merged them, has he answered your pms yet?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 13, 2013, 06:28:11 am
No.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 13, 2013, 07:11:23 am
Previously, on As the KFM Turns:
As usual, Balthazar your penis exploding prite-work makes my eyes spew out namekian blood of amazement.
Wait a minute?
Well done Cybaster! Very fluid, very nice. Much like me in bed....
Are they the same guy? Hmmm... they are from different countries.
But I still have the idea they're the same guy...

same guy, i checked, ban or what?
So, no account merge?
Seems like a lost password kind of deal. I don't think a ban is needed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 13, 2013, 06:00:57 pm
merged


http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/online-game-kof-s-molds-online-mode-league-legends-152883.msg1814750.html;topicseen#msg1814750
guy signed in and started spamming threads with the same exact thing, looks like a bot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 14, 2013, 10:30:13 pm
I dunno, it could just be that the dude was spamming things to try and get that petition more signatures, and didn't really give a crap about where he should post it?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 16, 2013, 01:52:52 pm
So this thread is a big ol' mess right now, (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1816237) filled with people harassing Seravy. When someone says that they're not gonna follow your suggestion about a move or whatever, then that's your cue to drop the subject. Debating why you think a move should be this way or that before that? Totally fine (but keep it within reason). But after that kinda post? Drop it. I'm sure you have better things to do.

And then there's another level, posting videos named "harrasment.avi". Seriously? C'mon. If ever there was a sign that one wasn't interested in serious discussion but instead flamebaiting. That kinda thing, probably calls for a short ban. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 16, 2013, 02:33:13 pm
Harassment avi? thats straight up bait, why would anyone do that if not to attempt to offend him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on August 16, 2013, 02:35:31 pm
Yeah, Ricepigeon is pretty obviously just trying to stir up shit with those videos.  I'd agree with a ban for him just for that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 16, 2013, 08:59:31 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.summary;u=82394
Ive banned this guy, discuss on a time for his ban please. ( his latest post should show you why.)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on August 16, 2013, 09:44:34 pm
Oh Christ, this guy again.  He never responded to any of those PMs I sent him warning him to stop attacking users for no reason in every post.

I say give him a week, see if that doesn't make the point sink in.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 16, 2013, 10:59:02 pm
I want him banned for good. The guy is a gimmick who keeps attacking people and saying offensive stuff and ignoring pms from staff. What possible reason could anyone want for keeping him around? He's also probably a previous user who is ban evading.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 16, 2013, 11:18:15 pm
then ban him forever, if you knew he was ignoring pms you could have already done it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 16, 2013, 11:36:30 pm
He's also probably a previous user who is ban evading.
He's almost certainly Custom Soul (who is not banned), but the IP address never matched.

Also he's banned forever, RIP Dan's ghost, you were too beautiful for this world.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 06, 2013, 02:23:12 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.showposts;u=81844 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.showposts;u=81844)

Wasn't he just banned for 3 months for this same exact stuff?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 07, 2013, 12:10:53 am
Quote
It appears that these kind of characters arent the only things you are good at sucking.
User has been banned for this post.


Banned ryuku, his behaviour keeps getting worse.
For now he has the customary three days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 07, 2013, 03:38:30 am
He just can't turn off his "enormous buttface" mode, can he? Can't even tone it down either.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.showposts;u=81844 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.showposts;u=81844)

Wasn't he just banned for 3 months for this same exact stuff?
Kind of, but much worse. Right now he seems fine I guess?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 09, 2013, 04:45:57 am
possible double account

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/tapionmg-82694
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/tapion90-79727

PM'd to see what's what
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 10, 2013, 05:53:57 am
It's him, can't login to the old one. Do your thang admins.

Or your thing, whichever you prefer.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 11, 2013, 07:33:52 am
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 11, 2013, 10:25:09 am
I'll do it after work today if Iced hasn't done it by then.

     Posted: September 11, 2013, 09:48:41 pm
I got it done for you, snookie pie. :)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on September 13, 2013, 12:07:46 am
Banned the bugmenot (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.summary;u=76405) account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 13, 2013, 10:08:35 am
Wrong thread!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 13, 2013, 06:48:01 pm
get the pitchforks and torches!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 14, 2013, 06:40:35 am
Do you remember the self proclaimed MI king, Kaominerva? No? Well, his posts sucked and we banned him. He registered a new account a few weeks ago:

mugenguild.com/forum/profile/kaosbreaker-82444

Does any of you feel like giving him a 2nd (?) chance? I don't.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 14, 2013, 07:01:57 am
He's kept out of trouble with that new account, but... I don't really remember any specifics about the old account other besides a general feeling of "bad poster needs ban".

So... I dunno. If he had asked instead of making a new account... but then again his new posts are fine? I can't decide.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 14, 2013, 07:40:29 am
Go check the last post of his original account. I think you'll like it :)

Oh wait, it was (kind of) aimed at you. How could you forget about it?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 14, 2013, 07:53:53 am
you god damn right I hate fags, hang all them fuckers
WELP

It's all coming back to me, the rampant homophobia, the crazy-ass racism, the weird font shit. Oy. Maybe he's improved, I dunno. But he should've asked instead of trying to fool everyone. I'm gonna say no.

also I dunno how I forgot, his stupid insult wasn't that important, I guess
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 21, 2013, 03:37:00 am
Okay.  So.

This guy (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/w3007014-82290) made this thread (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/myself-mugen-153824.0.html) announcing a character that he claims to have made but refuses to release.  Then this guy (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/detective-ness-33468) made this thread (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1836722) (which I've already katamari'd) talking about how he thinks that's dumb.  And then guy number 1 went and reported every (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/your-releases-mugen-1-0-re-myself-mugen-153829.0.html) single (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/your-releases-mugen-1-0-re-myself-mugen-153828.0.html) person (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/your-releases-mugen-1-0-re-myself-mugen-153826.0.html) who replied to his non-release thread for, and I quote, "Being mean to me."

The whole thing's pretty much handled, I'm just posting it here in the hopes that someone else will confirm that it's a thing that actually happened and not a really stupid fever dream I'm having.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 21, 2013, 04:10:17 am
Oh boy.

     Posted: September 21, 2013, 04:13:27 am
wait a minute this should go in warnings guys c'mon lets keep this organized
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 23, 2013, 12:53:00 pm
there seems to be people posting porn and erotica on the cosplay thread. I need one of youse to go in there start checking out stuff and distributing bans. thank you.( I have no idea if they are or not, im at work and cant check but there are reports so check em out )
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 23, 2013, 04:15:00 pm
None of them are loading for me. It'd feel weird for me to mod something that I have no idea what it is. If it shows up later or if someone else can see it and it indeed doesn't belong there please mod it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 23, 2013, 04:25:59 pm
Guys. Seriously. This is the wrong thread. Come ON. Why does this keep happening. -_-

I also can't load the images.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 23, 2013, 04:28:19 pm
I would do it, but the site won't let me modify posts or do any mod stuff at the moment for some reason.  But yeah, that shit lolmechy posted here (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1837570) and here (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1837808) needs to be taken down pronto.  I'd say he probably deserves at least a three day ban for it too because that goes pretty far beyond the "Light NSFW" stuff outlined in the rules.  He should know better.  Can somebody please get in there and clean it out?

And while you're at it, take down that pic GBK posted of that very young girl in a very revealing I-no costume because good fucking god what is wrong with him.  If it'd let me I'd have already banned him for that alone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 23, 2013, 04:45:19 pm
GOH sent me the pics: CENSORED IN THE NAME OF ZEUS (http://www.wompupthejamz.biz)

Don't think a ban is warranted, at most he should get a stern warning. Both of them maybe, not sure what to think about the little girl I-No thing.

I would do it, but the site won't let me modify posts or do any mod stuff at the moment for some reason.  But yeah, that shit lolmechy posted here (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1837570)
Whoa nelly!

This looks worse to me than the reported post!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 23, 2013, 04:58:25 pm
I'm removing the second batch because it's not cosplay-y and is more porn-y. GBK's I-no picture is gone. Thinking on the first batch, the first two can stay but the fact that she looks like she's touching herself in the third one is making me wanna mod it. The fourth one, even though she's nude, seems like it falls in the guidelines cause it's not explicit sexually.

Jmorph please remove the link to those pictures you posted now that I'm editing them out, there would be no point of removing them from the thread if they are linked here. And I disagree with you on that, in the reported post the girl is pointing her thong clad ass right at the cam. You can practically see her ass hole.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 23, 2013, 04:58:55 pm
That first set is basically porn, and second (reported) set isn't that much better.  I think a little more than a warning is in order, personally.  We do have rules around here that should be upheld.

Also, I spoke with GBK and he agreed to take down the I-no thing.  There was one post in there that quoted it, but it seems to be gone from there as well, so I guess it's fine.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 23, 2013, 05:06:09 pm
I removed the picture where it looked like she could possibly be fingering herself. Left the one where she's nude but covering herself. What do yall think about that as far as the nudity rule goes? I think debating that will help with dealing with nudity in the future.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 23, 2013, 05:16:42 pm
That nude one should be taken down as well, I think.

Jmorph please remove the link to those pictures you posted now that I'm editing them out, there would be no point of removing them from the thread if they are linked here.
Was planning to, after enough of us saw it. Even had a replacement url ready! :P

And I disagree with you on that, in the reported post the girl is pointing her thong clad ass right at the cam. You can practically see her ass hole.
The first set had a lady fingering herself! It's tons worse!!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 23, 2013, 05:21:33 pm
Yeah the nude but covering one should be removed.  Even though it's marked NSFW, that batch is all borderline pornish.  Maybe a good rule of thumb would be could this pose, costume, whatever be OK if it were at a con where people took their kids.  Because there are kids here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 23, 2013, 05:27:31 pm
The first set had a lady fingering herself! It's tons worse!!!
You couldn't see anything, and it her hand was over her crotch. And I removed that one.

Yeah the nude but covering one should be removed.  Even though it's marked NSFW, that batch is all borderline pornish.  Maybe a good rule of thumb would be could this pose, costume, whatever be OK if it were at a con where people took their kids.  Because there are kids here.
We'd have to remove and disallow a lot of pictures in the thread. Oh and we'd have to change the rules. And it would extend outside of the cosplay thread.  Are thongs ok? What about underwear in general? Shirtless pictures of dudes?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 23, 2013, 05:53:02 pm
Yeah, the one where the girl has all of her clothes and underwear off and is just covering her chest with her hands needs to come down.  That isn't cosplay, that's porn.  I don't even see how that could be up for debate.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 23, 2013, 05:55:59 pm
The nude one where she's covering breasts, she has her underwear pulled down her thighs. 

What was the original intent of the thread?  To show cosplay or soft-porn?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 23, 2013, 05:58:16 pm
Alright, it's gone

Edit: Also, no bans
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 23, 2013, 09:36:33 pm
Theres no need to ban anyone, lolmechy is not a random guy that goes around posting porn, he posted some pictures that he thought would be okay and werent, he can understand if someone asks him to not post things too risque.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 24, 2013, 11:41:39 pm
Aww, I missed the porn :(

I gave CocoSam22 (a user who's done nothing but necrobumping since his first day) a stern warning, ban him if his name pops again on the report board.

I'm pretty sure it's an annoying gimmick account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 24, 2013, 11:46:55 pm
I also messaged him when I deleted his necros (but it wasn't a stern warning just a standard friendly suggestion) so he shouldn't have any excuse if it happens again, I think.

We'd have to remove and disallow a lot of pictures in the thread. Oh and we'd have to change the rules. And it would extend outside of the cosplay thread.  Are thongs ok? What about underwear in general? Shirtless pictures of dudes?
Buddy, you are treading on dangerous ground. >:[
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 24, 2013, 11:56:39 pm
It's only fair. If you're gonna go on a viewpoint then go all in. Can't have double standards now can we?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 25, 2013, 01:10:57 am
I too have messaged this Coco Jumbo guy about his necrobumping after clearing out, like, ten of them.  Either he's not reading them or he doesn't care, it seems.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 25, 2013, 02:28:41 am
Both of you knew about him and never told the rest of us? :|(or did I overlook your posts?)

Guys, if there's a repeated offender that ignores your warnings you should, at the very least, let us know. Even if it's over petty shit like this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 25, 2013, 03:06:51 am
I didn't know he was a repeat offender.    There were a handful of necros he had made, I cleaned them up and messaged him explaining why that's not allowed.  At the time it didn't strike me as something that needed group discussion.  I just thought it was typical newbie ignorance.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 25, 2013, 06:59:47 am
I've never dealt with him.before today, though I'd probably wait till he did it another time after a second PM to bring it up here.

     Posted: September 25, 2013, 07:00:55 am
It's only fair. If you're gonna go on a viewpoint then go all in. Can't have double standards now can we?
If you take away shirtless men for me, well, I can't guarantee the safety of the members of this forum. Their blood will be on your hands.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 25, 2013, 09:09:52 pm
Oh goody, look who's back and already at it again:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/robotmonkeyhead-61380

And since someone was kind enough to link back to the last time he was banned for being a tiresome bastard: 

Nothing productive is going to come from giving him the benefit of the doubt here.  We ban him for six months and you know what will happen? Exactly six months for now he'll come back and immediately start in on the same old bullshit again.  Incrementally larger bans only work for people who at least try to improve. RMH is unwilling to even try.  All he wants to do is start arguments and stroke his own ego.  Permaban him and let's put an end to this crap once and for all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 25, 2013, 10:04:50 pm
Gave him a final warning; if he starts anything again he is gone for good. So if you see him start some dumb argument, don't forget to permaban him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 25, 2013, 10:30:43 pm
I'm fuckin sick of Robotmonkeyhead, I'm fuckin sick of him bein given chance after chance and doin the same shit, I'm sick of people telling me to just give him a longer ban and not to permaban him, and I'm sick of reading all of this.

I'm banning him for good. He's not coming back. And that's the end of that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 25, 2013, 10:40:37 pm
Good.  We really should have permabanned him last time anyway.  I told you guys he'd just come back and do it again.

And it's not like it makes that much difference now.  Knowing him he would have worn out Morph-Man's warning by the end of the day anyway.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 25, 2013, 10:42:19 pm
What? Why? He gets one last shot and that's it. Why ban him now? Why not just wait? Everyone is in agreement about a permaban but what's wrong with giving him enough rope to hang himself with one final time. I handled the situation and there's no need to step on my toes just to get him out the door faster.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 25, 2013, 10:43:57 pm
No he doesn't get one last shot. He shouldn't have even been giving that shot. He's hung himself a dozen times, he should have been permabanned before his last long banned and I'm not giving him another chance. No one is. It's over.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 25, 2013, 10:52:40 pm
i dont particularly care one way or another, I havent been following the situation closely and i trust you all have, but try to at least act in tandem if possible, also try to not get personal involvement drive your decisions too harshly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 25, 2013, 10:58:18 pm
Understood, Iced. I agree with your advice and will calm down about this. However if you've seen how RobotMonkeyHead has behaved I know you would agree with me that he didn't deserve another chance. He should have been banned before and I regret not doing it just so I didn't have to read the posts he's made since he's been back. He does not know how to interact on a forum with other users. Anyone with a set of eyes can see that. And in this particular case I think it's silly that some people think we shouldn't go all out on this guy.

I'm sorry for saying so, and sorry how I worded things. But if guys like this don't deserved to be removed from our forum then who does?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 25, 2013, 11:01:18 pm
RMH deserves another chance because i gave him one. I implicitly promised him that he would not be banned if he followed the rules and stopped arguing with people. I didn't really expect him to follow that, but that is how the rules work and he didn't deserve special exception. I gave the dude my word and now it's practically shit, now that its been overridden. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on September 25, 2013, 11:09:53 pm
Jmorph, I'm sorry. But he's gone. You know and I know he wasn't gonna stop acting up. Why do you even care what someone like that thinks about something you said to him?

I'm incredibly frustrated with how things were handled with him. It's BULLSHIT how nicely that guy has been treated, is he related to any of you? That's the only thing I can think of. You would think after last time it would be final without me even having to say anything, but nope. RobotMonkeyHead goes into his hundredth ban for the same exact shit that he starts up immediately after each ban. I want him gone for good but my staff convinced me "no no just give him a long ban". "But he'll do the same stuff when he comes back, we should permaban him". "Nah lets just give him a long ban I mean what do we lose?" "Well ok because a bunch of you believe so strongly in this let's leave his ban at 6 months or whatever. I still want him gone for good".

And then he comes back and starts up the same exact shit and you tell me "well let's just warn him and give him another chance". Nope, he doesn't get that. I'm sorry but he doesn't. And I can't even fathom why you or anyone else would want to give him that because this goes beyond compassion and into incomprehensible.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 25, 2013, 11:12:56 pm
Hey don't look at me.  I've been saying we cut him loose from the start.  It's everyone else who kept insisting that he totally deserved a 143rd chance.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 25, 2013, 11:23:24 pm

And then he comes back and starts up the same exact shit and you tell me "well let's just warn him and give him another chance".
That's not what happened. What happened is, I already gave him his last chance, and told him he would be permabanned if he didn't behave. His last ban ran out, so he automatically gets another shot. He hadn't done enough to warrant another ban, but he was closing in, so laid down the line. But then you stepped on my toes.

No one wanted to ban hin for 6 months or anything. I gave him the warning, because that's how the rules work. We have all decided how we handle banning people and we don't give people special treatment just because they're super annoying and crazy. RMH is not a time bomb that will kill a bunch of people, he's a dumb dumb who keeps getting into stupid arguments and letting hin hang himself wouldn't have been terrible.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 26, 2013, 05:36:59 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/robotmoneyhead-82793

Banned his alt account
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 26, 2013, 05:12:56 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1839503

Keep an eye out for DAN_HIBIKI/Custom_Soul/A ghost of Dan. He's starting to act up again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 26, 2013, 05:33:39 pm

And then he comes back and starts up the same exact shit and you tell me "well let's just warn him and give him another chance".
That's not what happened. What happened is, I already gave him his last chance, and told him he would be permabanned if he didn't behave. His last ban ran out, so he automatically gets another shot. He hadn't done enough to warrant another ban, but he was closing in, so laid down the line. But then you stepped on my toes.

No one wanted to ban hin for 6 months or anything. I gave him the warning, because that's how the rules work. We have all decided how we handle banning people and we don't give people special treatment just because they're super annoying and crazy. RMH is not a time bomb that will kill a bunch of people, he's a dumb dumb who keeps getting into stupid arguments and letting hin hang himself wouldn't have been terrible.

Yes I'm late with my 2 cents on this, but I really did think there was procedure in place for bannings (3 days initial followed by discussion)  If we arent going to follow that procedure for everyone, then we may as well not have it. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 28, 2013, 05:06:51 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1839503

Keep an eye out for DAN_HIBIKI/Custom_Soul/A ghost of Dan. He's starting to act up again.
And he's outta here.

Don't remember how long the previous ban was so I just put down 3 days but I think 3 months would work this time I dunno I'll figure it it out tonight if no one else has.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 28, 2013, 05:21:43 pm
Shameless and disruptive self advertising, terrible posting gimmicks, dismissing an official warning...banning him for 3-6 months is perfectly fair.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 29, 2013, 04:48:48 am
Went with 2 months because I couldn't ascertain exactly how long his last ban was (might've only been 3 days) but combined with all of the shit he's pulled I think it's fair.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on September 29, 2013, 05:59:11 pm
good call
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 02, 2013, 09:08:11 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1842529
anyone faced this guy before?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on October 02, 2013, 11:32:58 pm
removed his posts a few days ago. he doesnt seem to get the clue
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 03, 2013, 05:59:13 am
Checked my outbox and I've messaged him about it before. Three times seems like enough (after repeated warnings), maybe a short ban would get through to him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 08, 2013, 03:51:38 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.showposts;u=44115
chamat is posting a bunch of posts in the middle of other threads with things like "I found this pic about this game on capcom site, click here to see more" that all lead back to some contest he is trying to run.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on October 08, 2013, 09:07:20 pm
I say merge all of them, including his contest, into the shit thread and give him a warning.  Unless there are harsher measures that are usually imposed for being a spambot that I'm unaware of.

     Posted: October 08, 2013, 09:53:58 pm
Taking this previous discussion to the public boards because it's out in the open now.

MC2's flame-baiting and self-aggrandizing are getting out of hand.  Here he is trying to start an argument over in the Smash Bros. thread:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1845191

And again a few days ago in the anime thread:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1844248

And this is just the most recent in a very long, long history of this sort of behavior.  Iced has warned him.  I have warned him.  The next time it happens, he's getting banned.  Any objections?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 08, 2013, 10:17:22 pm
Chamat doesnt need intervention, if he keeps doing it then yeah it might need intervention.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 08, 2013, 10:57:09 pm
Yeah Chamat just needs a warning.

And this is just the most recent in a very long, long history of this sort of behavior.  Iced has warned him.  I have warned him.  The next time it happens, he's getting banned.  Any objections?
Nope.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on October 08, 2013, 11:03:36 pm
Just to clarify, I wasn't advocating harsher measures for Chamat.  A bit of cleanup and a small warning would be more than fine.  What I meant was that would be good enough unless someone else thought more should be done.

Sorry if I didn't make that clear enough.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 08, 2013, 11:04:37 pm
I didn't think you were advocating anything harsher than a warning, just agreeing with everyone. :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 09, 2013, 12:42:52 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mr-silver-82535

I don't know what the deal is with this guy, but I think we should keep an eye on him. Gave him a warning for posting random, off-topic stuff all over the place.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 15, 2013, 11:06:28 pm
Banned that julian johnson guy: http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/julian-johnson-451-82749 because the dude would not stop necroing even after multiple messages from several different mods. Only put it in for a day because it's mostly a last ditch attempt to get him to actually read a message from a mod.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 15, 2013, 11:40:09 pm
Good job, hopefully that'll stop him from necroing so much.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Koop on October 18, 2013, 01:27:00 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.showposts;u=82908

account made clearly for spamming
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 22, 2013, 07:08:43 pm
Banned RunningWildTengu
Character is trash just like your poor excuse for Real Bout Fatal Fury and King of Fighters characters.

Just quit Mugen again.
3 days but... why exactly is he still around? Why should he be, after this? Honestly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 22, 2013, 07:10:15 pm
hes completely shit at fighting games and videogames, all he knows how to post is about how he is fat and likes being fat and how he is terrible at fighting games, at this point you can just put him out of his misery and ban him forever.  No one would have him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on October 22, 2013, 07:44:03 pm
I'm ok with banning him forever.
He has become a terrible user, sadly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Koop on October 22, 2013, 07:46:38 pm
I don't mind. Posting poorly for the sole purpose of causing trouble shouldn't be dealt with in a sugar coated way.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 22, 2013, 07:48:47 pm
Okey dokey. Gone forever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on October 22, 2013, 08:50:19 pm
hes completely shit at fighting games and videogames,

i am down with this criteria
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on October 22, 2013, 10:26:51 pm
I'm ok with banning him forever.
He has become a terrible user, sadly.

'Become?'  When has he ever not been a terrible user?  I can't recall anything he's ever done that didn't involve pointless insults, fan art of morbidly obese girls, or some combination of the two.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 22, 2013, 10:31:45 pm
I've known him for years and talk to him occasionally, he's a really cool person to talk to. And he's hilarious. Makes a bunch of funny videos. Shame about those posts. Even knowing him like I do I can't really argue with it. Saying stuff like that in a release thread is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 22, 2013, 10:33:08 pm
well he obviously doesnt respect you or what you are trying to do here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on October 22, 2013, 10:36:38 pm
Back then when I was a member of MI, mind you, he was a normal user, I remember him having normal conversations like a regular human being, even starting a Ryo WIP that sounded interesting and stuff.
He went from a regular poster to the thing he is right now really fast.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on October 23, 2013, 05:51:27 pm
Banned MC2 for pointless flamebaiting (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1851298) again, in spite of all warnings.  I gave him 3 days, maybe he'll actually get the message now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 23, 2013, 08:06:06 pm
Sounds good.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 24, 2013, 04:46:42 pm
some dudes deleted their necro posts and reported Alex as necroing to try to get him in trouble,i suggest banning both for the minimum time of three days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 24, 2013, 06:42:12 pm
upon seeing their pms to him, I would ban them for a week, anyone against it?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on October 24, 2013, 06:44:08 pm
Not I.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 24, 2013, 06:45:32 pm
Not after those PM's.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 24, 2013, 07:19:44 pm
Yeah, a week. That was pathetic of them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on October 24, 2013, 07:56:59 pm
Agreed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on October 24, 2013, 10:20:43 pm
I must have missed something.  What dudes?  What PMs?  Links, people, links!  >:(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on October 24, 2013, 11:07:11 pm
In the Feedback to Warnings thread.    It seems to me if someone is going to be banned for a pm, the pm should be unsolicited and reported to an admin not paraphrased and posted in the forum.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on October 24, 2013, 11:11:05 pm
Here, to be more precise.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1852049
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on October 24, 2013, 11:12:32 pm
Oh, I see now.  Yeah that was really shitty of those guys.  I agree with a one week ban for the both of them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Koop on November 07, 2013, 08:04:56 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/fire-specter-35491

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/mortal-kombat-mythologies-fireboy-154828.0.html

I believe that this person is deliberately trying to send viruses to users in this forum. The video in that post clearly isn't mugen and everyone who has explained that they can't download this file have been insulted.

I believe that this thread should be locked, all links removed and the user banned.

     Posted: November 07, 2013, 08:56:50 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1858951

Ok so it seems like the link is indeed a dud and the user keeps insulting/being idiotic
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 08, 2013, 04:55:34 pm
I forgot to post here yesterday but the dude is banned for 3 days because he kept insulting people for no reason.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 12, 2013, 12:07:22 am
banned a dude that kept posting on felo thread.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1861006

i mean he had the nerve of claim titiln was a tyrant and I was just there being ignored, thats not right man.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on November 12, 2013, 12:10:00 am
All hail Iced.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 12, 2013, 02:07:37 am
Suggesting an increase from 7-14 day ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 12, 2013, 02:13:53 am
I think 3 is fine for the first time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 13, 2013, 12:04:25 am
i had to reban him, will the tyranny and personism never end
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on November 13, 2013, 12:21:32 am
personism

What exactly are you trying to say, Iced?  >:(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 13, 2013, 12:43:36 am
the guild is full of like, personists, man, personists, people that dislike certain persons by their actions and what they are towards others.

stop being a personist man , person man.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on November 13, 2013, 04:40:00 am
Whenever you use the word personism it makes me think you're talking about bigotry either committed by me or directed towards me.  Neither of which I am comfortable with.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 13, 2013, 04:49:25 am
Extended Justus's ban to a week because of that attempted ban evasion.[avatar]http://network.mugenguild.com/jmorphman/images/SignAvatar/Kamillebeingslapped.png[/avatar]
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 13, 2013, 11:51:45 am
Whenever you use the word personism it makes me think you're talking about bigotry either committed by me or directed towards me.  Neither of which I am comfortable with.
look i know from COOLGUY sources that bigotry against you is justified because you watch a cartoon where the moe characters do not look like children instead of obviously superior japanese ones where they do.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 14, 2013, 06:45:17 pm
Banned Fire Spectre again, because dude is cray cray. And also because he won't stop making alternate accounts.

One month.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 14, 2013, 06:51:57 pm
Suggesting an increase from 7-14 day ban.
I think 3 is fine for the first time.
Extended Justus's ban to a week because of that attempted ban evasion.

Why don't you people ever listen to me? >:(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 14, 2013, 06:52:49 pm
Gotta follow protocol! You're off the case, McCaddicle! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceqNcCUUakE)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 14, 2013, 07:00:13 pm
You're off YOUR case, chief.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on November 14, 2013, 08:42:19 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/brain-83034

Banned this guy for 5 days. Ban evasion? Regardless he's very disruptive and insulting. Checked as much as I could on my phone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 14, 2013, 09:33:54 pm
He's Fireboy. I'm gonna increase his ban to a month and permaban Brain and the other account, the one whose name is like gay rapping Titiln or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 15, 2013, 04:53:25 pm
Jmorph. A user like this is going to keep doing things like this. He has shown that he doesn't belong at this board. My recommendation is to permanently ban him and remove all of his alts as they come.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 15, 2013, 08:56:18 pm
I figure(d) that if we permabanned him, he'd just keep making alt accounts until he got tired. I'm hoping the "double ban length" thing will act as an incentive to stop doing that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 15, 2013, 09:01:05 pm
No, here's what is going to happen. He's either going to wait until the ban length expires or he's gonna ban evade. When it expires, he's gonna be exactly the same as he is now until he gets banned again. Rinse and repeat until he's permabanned. How many times have we been through this?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 15, 2013, 09:06:21 pm
I see no need to permaban him at this time, despite the unlikelihood of him improving.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 15, 2013, 09:15:12 pm
Ok but later down the line when he comes back and is still the same or worse and we're put in a position where we have to permaban him anyway, I get to rub it in your face and laugh at you. Deal?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 15, 2013, 09:17:54 pm
I'm already used to having my optimism crushed!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on November 16, 2013, 02:27:25 am
I see no need to permaban him at this time, despite the unlikelihood of him improving.

Jmorphman for president!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 18, 2013, 07:52:36 pm
If you see WatsonGrim complain about something not being in PotS style/Rajaa style/whatever (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/watsongrim69-81673) ban him for 3 days. He's been warned enough about it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 19, 2013, 01:13:40 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1865642

fireboy logged in again, if there was still any doubts he was the same
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on November 19, 2013, 08:17:15 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/animated-portraits-152848.msg1865807.html#new

What's up with that Syn guy?
Why is he that aggresive with everyone?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 19, 2013, 10:13:25 pm
I dunno whats wrong with syn, hes always ultra aggressive even with people he never dealt with.


http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/portuguese-only-portugu234s-ena-p225--62466.msg1865877.html;topicseen#msg1865877

fireboy again, this time he claims he is not fireboy and fireboy is great and awesome and has a huge site with lots of hits and no one compares to fireboy magnificence in mk and also Iced is gay and cant speak protuguese.
I think he was masturbating to himself the whole time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 19, 2013, 10:31:42 pm
Might just be one of his supporters, his alts thus far have all matched his IP address
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 19, 2013, 10:36:39 pm
also he keeps going on about how you tried to bury him by claiming he had a virus in his game, correct me if im wrong but wasnt the malware warning part of 4shared or something, not his game or anything?

Anyway the dude seems hella obsessed with dicks.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 19, 2013, 10:42:50 pm
I think that was it; he interpreted the whole thing as some kind of elaborate conspiracy against him. Probably because he doesn't seem to have the firmest grasp of English.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 19, 2013, 11:00:26 pm
that doesnt explain why he has a posse of people registering new accounts over and over again to insult felo and talk about how fireboy is awesome
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 19, 2013, 11:14:38 pm
He told them their dear leader was mercilessly attacked by two testicled gay parrots who are only doing it because they're jealous of his immense talent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 22, 2013, 05:23:02 pm
So all this and Fireboy still isn't banned permanently?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 22, 2013, 06:15:17 pm
Oh, that's simple.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 22, 2013, 07:24:32 pm
Hey remember Justus?
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

And now Fireboy:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

So since I'm apparently always right about these things, how about we listen to my suggestions from now on?

Oh and by the way, hehehe, haha, HAHAHAHAHAHA, MWUAHHAHAHAHAAHHAAH *rub rub rub rub*
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 24, 2013, 08:54:43 am
because the rules are there for a reason

I actually think Justus/Malva was one of Fireboy's followers, and not himself. All of Fireboy's really obvious alt accounts have shared his IP, and while it is possible he started off using proxies and then just stopped, I think it's much more likely that he is too stupid think to use a proxy and Justus, Malva, and MFGbibalokas are all friends (or one friend, who the fuck knows) of his that came when he complained on his forum.

... although the Brume account shares Fireboy's IP, and then Brain showed up claiming to be Brume after the former was banned, and has a different IP... oh who the fuck cares I'm devoting too much brainpower to this. Even if they were all completely different people it doesn't make that much of a different if they're permabanned because they were here only to flamebait and stuff.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 24, 2013, 09:56:04 am
because the rules are there for a reason

It was never a rule, it was a trial period. As far as I'm concerned the trial is over. What's the point of having this stupid mandatory incriminatory system when every single time it's been used it turns out this way? If someone genuinely makes a mistake or overreacts and does something to get banned then yes, give them a slap on the wrist. But when someone is very clearly obviously a waste of space that only wants to start trouble then just long term or permaban them.

If you don't want to do things like that, at the very least I'm going to start. Btw I'm very happy with how you've been handling this fireboy stuff, outside of the initial ban lengths.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 24, 2013, 10:01:55 am
It's a trial period yes, but in both instances we hadn't yet seen the depths of the madness on display. Thus the three days/a month were fair. I think we should be very careful in handing out bans longer than three days, especially in cases where it seems like there's a big language barrier.

and it's not like longer bans to either person would've changed a single thing, given that their posts afterwards were all from alternate accounts
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on November 24, 2013, 10:10:26 am
Yeah we still need discretion. I wouldn't suggest handing out long term bans out of nowhere or anything like that. Just in more obvious cases I don't think we need to stick to that system. Like with Robotmonkey for example.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 03, 2013, 12:37:41 am
Sent a PM to MasterMJX:

They don't call em Mr.Big for nothin' ~_o


(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gPYEQABPIM0/UpznhMYBmOI/AAAAAAAAAgU/Po9mJ6J8MI4/w1036-h429-no/MJX%252Bintro+2.jpg)

Please don't make posts like this. Keep your signature as a signature instead of posting huge images at the end of your posts. Thank you.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 03, 2013, 03:30:58 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=75992
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.tracking;u=83130
same dude
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 05, 2013, 08:29:00 pm
That Dan Hibiki/Custom Soul/Aggravating Gimmick dude is at it again. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/danhibiki-81844)

This kid seriously cannot seem to stop posting in disruptive, attention-grabby gimmicks.  How many times has he been warned/banned for this stuff now?  What should we do with him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 05, 2013, 09:00:17 pm
Ban for a month. IMO
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 05, 2013, 09:09:13 pm
Stern warning first, then at least a one month ban. 3 months might be better though, I think. This is not new behavior.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 05, 2013, 09:17:33 pm
Sent him a warning via PM to cut it out.  And I agree with Morph-Man.  Next post he makes that's a pointless roleplay gimmick, he gets three months in the time-out chair.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 05, 2013, 10:46:31 pm
The reason I suggested skipping the warning is he's been banned for the gimmick stuff before. He knows he's not supposed to be doing it. That's why I didn't think he needed a warning.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 06, 2013, 12:03:41 am
Eh.  Even in extreme cases like this I still prefer to go with a last chance, no-tolerance warning.  Something just doesn't feel quite right about banning someone without at least telling them why they're in trouble first.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 06, 2013, 07:58:42 pm
Ok but later down the line when he goes back to gimmicking again and we have to ban him anyway, and I'm right about this like everything else, I get to rub it in your face and laugh at you. In fact, let's make this a permanent thing when people go against my advice and I turn out to have been right. We can call it the Caddie Rule.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 06, 2013, 08:45:19 pm
what do we call the opposite like in that recent case?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on December 06, 2013, 08:47:02 pm
The anti-Caddie rule... perhaps.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 06, 2013, 09:08:19 pm
Na the Caddie rule is in effect for stuff like that. You can just use it against me in those rare situations.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 06, 2013, 09:10:47 pm
*snort*
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 07, 2013, 12:30:31 am
I'm looking forward to the day when we get to make you rub your own failures in your own face.  Should be fun to watch.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 07, 2013, 01:03:30 am
I'm still working on Duck King, honest.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 09, 2013, 12:12:24 am
jermboy is back to making characters so he can get off to people bashing them (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/evil-barney-155744.0.html), or something. Told him to cut it out because he keeps doing this, ignores people telling him to stop, and got banned over it before. Should be like, 3 months, at least, the next ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 09, 2013, 10:00:34 pm
Possible Fireboy alt (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/gentili-83169), though nothing concrete.

Extasis is also back (he was one of the porn spam guys) (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1875984). It looks like he wants to continue his project and while it seems like the other guy was the one doing all the spamming, he was still involved, and... I dunno. I permabanned the alt, but maybe we could consider making the main account's ban not permanent (I think it was at 6 months before)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 09, 2013, 10:27:45 pm
nope, im against it. he should have his thread merged with the porn spam thread and the posts merged to his own account, so people dont forget what he was doing.

"this is active forum" isnt an excuse for his behaviour. In fact im merging it right now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 09, 2013, 10:33:45 pm
I'm with Iced.  "I know me and my friend flooded your forum with porn and spam accounts but you should unban me because I want to come back" is probably the shittiest reasoning I've ever seen.  Merge his threads, reban his account, and maybe tack on a little extra for yet another ban evasion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 09, 2013, 10:41:18 pm
im going to filter his past spam to "we at site X enjoy sucking dicks on the internet"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 09, 2013, 10:43:23 pm
His main account is already permabanned, it was when the porn hit. I just thought it might be worth discussing if it should be a permaban or just a long one (I have no strong feelings either way). Because he seems relatively sane, in comparison to the guy spamming porn.

nope, im against it. he should have his thread merged with the porn spam thread and the posts merged to his own account, so people dont forget what he was doing.

"this is active forum" isnt an excuse for his behaviour. In fact im merging it right now.
That seems extremely unnecessary and harsh. Especially since that's not the same person.

     Posted: December 09, 2013, 10:56:55 pm
oh I see, merged with the deleted replies from that thread when they were spamming the first time

never mind who cares about that
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 09, 2013, 11:12:26 pm
he was the guy bragging about doing it and saying he was sending his friends to do it. Thats not comparatively sane.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/street-fighter-origins-pocket-chapter-the-final-demon-1-1-155765.60.html


Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 09, 2013, 11:13:49 pm
It's sane compared to the guy who does 100+ posts of porn spam!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 09, 2013, 11:47:51 pm
Jmorph: Are you serious? He was one of the porn spammers. Both of them were doing it. Fuck that guy. Permanent ban. He's not relatively sane. He co-conspired with the other guy to register accounts at the same time and both of them do it. None of us should even be considering unbanning him. Ever.

Any alts he makes, ban and delete all of his posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 09, 2013, 11:51:28 pm
Maybe it's me, but for me, actually reading people's posts is very useful and helps avoid leaping to incoherent conclusions.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 09, 2013, 11:59:32 pm
Maybe he wasn't the guy who made the actual posts.  But he did still facilitate the other guy in making it happen, bragged about it and took credit for it, and then repeatedly attempted to dodge his ban for the express purpose of causing more trouble for this forum.  This isn't a gray area this time, he's just as guilty as his friend is and deserves to share in his banning.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 10, 2013, 12:03:57 am
Right. Which is what I wanted to bring up, whether that deserves a permaban or not, because I had some second thoughts but was on the fence, and discussing things is good.

Or I want to unban everyone because us mods are pussies and Caddie is always right. I's definitely one of those two options, probably the latter.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 10, 2013, 12:16:07 am
HE WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE REGISTERING MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS AND SPAMMING PORN. You suggested him not having a permanent ban. Nevermind the "he may have not been making posts he was only just bragging", HE WAS MAKING THEM. And you're even bringing up allowing him to be eventually unbanned? Wtf

http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=83137 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=83137)

The guy whose profile you linked, who is a known alt of Extasis, has the same IP address of this guy. Who I banned at like 3-6 in the morning just as him and his friend started spamming the forums with porn. Again. When I was the only mod on.

Don't let him post. Don't give him leniency. Delete all his posts. No promoting his sites or projects. In fact, I'm deleting the post he made on that elcoco account right now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 10, 2013, 12:28:39 am
Boy oh boy, reading comprehension is sure hard, ain't it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 10, 2013, 12:29:54 am
What am I reading wrong?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 10, 2013, 12:32:36 am
Right. Which is what I wanted to bring up, whether that deserves a permaban or not, because I had some second thoughts but was on the fence, and discussing things is good.
Or you know all the other things of that nature which I have posted.

I wanted to talk about it. I'm not arguing for anything. This is exceedingly simple, and doesn't require anyone to get onto any moral high horses in panic that someone wants to unban the dreaded ultimate evil or whatever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 10, 2013, 12:37:18 am
what I wanted to bring up, whether that deserves a permaban or not, because I had some second thoughts but was on the fenc

You suggested him not having a permanent ban

:???: I'm not sure what I'm reading wrong. So let's finished the discussion. Yes he deserves to be permabanned and I think it's a little silly that it was even suggested that he shouldn't. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess that you didn't know he was doing porn spam too since a couple of people in this thread didn't seem to know that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 10, 2013, 12:47:30 am
I'm trying to get people's opinions because I wanted to have a discussion because I thought it was worth having, since we have occasionally let people back in after doing really bad stuff, and sometimes that has worked out. I thought it best to leave no stone unturned, and all that. What I am not trying to do is get him unbanned. Pretty simple stuff.

But if we have definitive proof that he was one of the spammers then I think the discussion is over.

But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess that you didn't know he was doing porn spam too since a couple of people in this thread didn't seem to know that.
my oh my what did I ever do to deserve this honor
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 10, 2013, 12:52:40 am
I understand, I apologize for taking my bad mood out on you yet again. Why do you put up with me?

I really liked putting a stop to them together with you last time. You really are doing a good job around here, I don't think you get the proper appreciation you deserve.

But if we have definitive proof that he was one of the spammers then I think the discussion is over.

Is my word that the Supermen account was spamming porn before I banned it and deleted all the posts definitive proof?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 10, 2013, 12:54:45 am
Yeah that's what I was saying. It seemed like it was one guy last Tuesday (which, BTW, I have PTSD from, so I expect a generous pension and stuff) but I didn't know about that account. So fuck that guy, and his dumb boring straight porn.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 10, 2013, 01:17:05 am
Hi, just passing through to say keep the permaban. Back to you guys.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 10, 2013, 01:24:19 am
Yeah that's what I was saying. It seemed like it was one guy last Tuesday (which, BTW, I have PTSD from, so I expect a generous pension and stuff) but I didn't know about that account. So fuck that guy, and his dumb boring straight porn.

Yeah
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 10, 2013, 02:37:09 am
while you ladies are bickering he come back and tried to post again
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Koop on December 11, 2013, 07:59:12 pm
Gonna give DAN_HIBIKI a time out for shit posting. If you look at his posts, he's probably edited them since I warned him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 11, 2013, 08:15:19 pm
I'm giving him three months for this (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/dan-cant-draw-danhibikis-awful-art-gallery-155795.msg1876892.html#msg1876892).  I already warned him to cut that shit out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 11, 2013, 09:49:09 pm
That Dan Hibiki/Custom Soul/Aggravating Gimmick dude is at it again. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/danhibiki-81844)

This kid seriously cannot seem to stop posting in disruptive, attention-grabby gimmicks.  How many times has he been warned/banned for this stuff now?  What should we do with him?
Ban for a month. IMO
The reason I suggested skipping the warning is he's been banned for the gimmick stuff before. He knows he's not supposed to be doing it. That's why I didn't think he needed a warning.
Ok but later down the line when he goes back to gimmicking again and we have to ban him anyway, and I'm right about this like everything else, I get to rub it in your face and laugh at you. In fact, let's make this a permanent thing when people go against my advice and I turn out to have been right. We can call it the Caddie Rule.

One week later

I'm giving him three months for this (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/dan-cant-draw-danhibikis-awful-art-gallery-155795.msg1876892.html#msg1876892).  I already warned him to cut that shit out.

...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 11, 2013, 10:11:44 pm
are you actually trying to get the mods to quit
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 11, 2013, 10:13:56 pm
I'm giving him three months for this (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/dan-cant-draw-danhibikis-awful-art-gallery-155795.msg1876892.html#msg1876892).  I already warned him to cut that shit out.
it feels like too much to ban him for posting a silly comic,
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1876892
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 11, 2013, 10:14:11 pm
How am I supposed to feel when no one listens to my suggestions when this stuff has happened like 4 or 5 times in a row in the past month or two? :(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 11, 2013, 10:17:11 pm
I still maintain that I did the right thing in warning him first.  Instantly banning someone without at least attempting to let them know why they're in trouble seems unfair to me.  Plus, with my way if someone comes back crying "I didn't do anything, nobody warned me, I would have stopped if you said something" there's evidence we can point at to say "Yes we did warn you, and no you didn't stop."

I'm giving him three months for this (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/dan-cant-draw-danhibikis-awful-art-gallery-155795.msg1876892.html#msg1876892).  I already warned him to cut that shit out.
it feels like too much to ban him for posting a silly comic,
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1876892
He's been banned a couple of times before for making gimmicky "everyone look at me" posts with roleplaying and stupid fonts and colors.  He's been doing it again lately, and I warned him that he'd be banned if he didn't cut it out.  He didn't cut it out, so he gets banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 11, 2013, 10:37:58 pm
While i can understand you. Making a comic and sharing it isnt as bad as roleplaying in his posts and stuff like that. I mean I wouldnt have minded him making comics as long as he kept out of other threads with it.

I will let your decision stand since I assume you had way more experience with him than me.


Caddie. Social cues. The way you are posting and pointing out "I was right" Is kindof obnoxious.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 11, 2013, 10:40:13 pm
Iced mentioned to me that I am being boastful and dismissive of the rest of you and bragging about being "always right" and I too feel like I go too far with it. However, I feel like this approach we've been doing for a while now hasn't been working out. This cautious optimism towards repeat offenders has left most of you afraid to ban people who deserve to be banned. My boasting lately was supposed to be pointing this out. There is a reason why I was able to predict what these users were going to do before they did it. They all were following patterns. This stuff is going to keep happening.

I'm tired of being guilt tripped for making suggestions on what to do for users, correctly predicting what they're going to do to deserve a ban, being overruled by staff majority, and then pointing it out when that person ends up banned for what I said they were going to be banned for. This has happened to 4 or 5 different users very recently. I appreciate all of you for what you're doing here, and the fact that you're dealing with them in the first place.

I'm not going to force any of you to change, or even go over any of your heads when you make a decision. At the same time when this happens over and over again it makes me feel like regardless of what my judgement has been on stuff like this that my opinion isn't being respected at all. Be honest, do yall think the problem is me?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 11, 2013, 10:59:33 pm
I just can't get behind the idea of instantly banning someone because we think they're probably going to do something.  Preemptively banning someone based on what we think they might do is not a good solution for anything, regardless of whether or not we end up being right.  Unless it's something drastic like Exstasis and his porn-happy friend, I believe we should always at least try to put an end to the situation civilly before resorting to bans.

Like Dan_Hibiki, for instance.  I didn't give him a final warning with any real hopes that he'd instantly turn everything around.  In fact, I was almost positive that it wouldn't matter what I or any of us said to him, that he'd probably continue to do exactly what he's always done and I'd probably have to ban him for it.  But still the effort needs to be made to attempt to work things out peacefully first.  Even for the most annoying users, we owe them that much.

Imagine how it would look to the rest of the forum if all of the moderator discussions started reading like "I banned this guy because I think he's going to be really annoying and I don't want to deal with that" or "This guy is probably going to cause trouble, let's just ban him now."
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 11, 2013, 11:04:27 pm
The problem isn't you. I still agree with giving chances. We just see things differently.

I think the difference is that some of us in the staff just do not see a huge issue letting the person continue to cause trouble 1 or 2 more times.
I don't want to tell you what you're thinking, but from my POV it looks like you maybe hold these user's actions a bit too high? Does it really make a large difference to the forum if DAN GUY posts out of line one or so more times?

For more troublesome users I don't mind instant banhammers. Porn spammers and such. And I can understand when you get so annoyed with a user like Robot Monkey Head that you permaban him as well.

For the most part it's always best to allow users back and to give more chances. The banning extensions protocall was put in place to replace permabanning because banning for life on a hobby forum for almost any reason just seems way to overkill.

Ninja'd by Person Man whom said it much better than me
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 11, 2013, 11:06:03 pm
Ya maybe I am just taking things too seriously. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 11, 2013, 11:11:33 pm
You are having a public standoff in the middle of a warnings thread. couldnt this have happened in any other way?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 11, 2013, 11:19:50 pm
Well there was plenty of warning? badum pish :drummer:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 12, 2013, 12:22:05 am
I'm warning you to shut your face, Iced!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 12, 2013, 12:51:26 am
Caddie, I actually simpathize with you and your no-nonsense approach to unsalvageable posters (and would've banned DAN_HIBIKI for a Saturnian year for the KFM roleplay shit). Thing is, I'm always late for banning and dropping my two cents seems kinda unescessary there's an 'official' decision.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 12, 2013, 02:26:16 am
You are having a public standoff in the middle of a warnings thread. couldnt this have happened in any other way?

You mean like blindfolded jello wrestling at dawn, 2 of 3 falls?

I just can't get behind the idea of instantly banning someone because we think they're probably going to do something.  Preemptively banning someone based on what we think they might do is not a good solution for anything, regardless of whether or not we end up being right.  Unless it's something drastic like Exstasis and his porn-happy friend, I believe we should always at least try to put an end to the situation civilly before resorting to bans.

Like Dan_Hibiki, for instance.  I didn't give him a final warning with any real hopes that he'd instantly turn everything around.  In fact, I was almost positive that it wouldn't matter what I or any of us said to him, that he'd probably continue to do exactly what he's always done and I'd probably have to ban him for it.  But still the effort needs to be made to attempt to work things out peacefully first.  Even for the most annoying users, we owe them that much.

Imagine how it would look to the rest of the forum if all of the moderator discussions started reading like "I banned this guy because I think he's going to be really annoying and I don't want to deal with that" or "This guy is probably going to cause trouble, let's just ban him now."

I pretty much agree with this, except naturally I think 3 months is kind of long, 1 month maybe.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 12, 2013, 04:54:28 am
I would have gone with just one month if he hadn't already had a month ban for the exact same thing and failed to learn anything from it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 12, 2013, 05:03:13 am
That's just because MissB supports letting repeated disruptive posters poison our community. It's her 2nd favorite way to troll behind asking "who is ken?" on a fighting game forum.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 12, 2013, 01:19:55 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/thor-2-155818.new.html#new


preemptively banned him for 2 days when I noticed the thread spam.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 12, 2013, 02:41:37 pm
What did I just say?  >:(

*looks at offender's profile*

Jeez Iced, the hell did you do to that kid?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 12, 2013, 03:20:55 pm
i deleted a bunch of threads about making money online and stuff. kinda seemed like he wa srushing to get his 15 posts by spamming new threads
also prevented him from making more threads.  im probably unbanning him today , i just wanted him to stop spamming.


i got avatars and sigs disabled, im going to guess hes getting colorful since i didnt disable his ability to login .
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 12, 2013, 05:02:51 pm
unlocked the ban now that he likely cooled down on that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 13, 2013, 07:32:02 am
I don't think he's gonna cool down from this. A PM or something telling him not to spam the forum would've been a much better approach than straight up banning.

And this image restriction seems like it's causing more trouble than it's worth, I'm now thinking it should be removed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 13, 2013, 07:41:01 am
But if we do that it risks the porn spam coming back immediately. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 13, 2013, 07:44:27 am
But couldn't they always just quickly post the requite 15 posts, then start with full porn posts?

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

But yeah I dunno, it doesn't seem like it even helps that much, and is causing a lot of grief.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 13, 2013, 07:47:29 am
It's one guy who was mad he couldn't post images of his totally awesome mortal kombat game that has every character in it in his first post on this forum. And couldn't just link the url of the images instead. And as far as the porn spammers "they could just spam posts until they can use images", well both of them haven't done that and we can at least notice what they're doing before there's porn all over the site.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 13, 2013, 07:55:51 am
It's one guy who was mad he couldn't post images of his totally awesome mortal kombat game that has every character in it in his first post on this forum. And couldn't just link the url of the images instead.
It didn't seem like he understood that, despite Titiln's explanation. And that's just that one specific guy. At least one other person has complained publicly about it.

And as far as the porn spammers "they could just spam posts until they can use images", well both of them haven't done that and we can at least notice what they're doing before there's porn all over the site.
At the rate they were going? It'd barely make a difference.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Cobra Caddie on December 13, 2013, 08:00:06 am
Oh yeah another guy said it was retarded. We haven't had any porn spam since Val put those protections in place and caving to those guys isn't worth having to deal with a 100 posts filled with porn every time two jerks decide to act up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 13, 2013, 08:03:11 am
The two are correlated, sure, but that doesn't imply causation. It's is equally as likely that they simply lost interest, in part because of the other countermeasures. And even if it did, the potential advantages of the image restriction don't seem to outweigh the disadvantages of it, at least to me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on December 13, 2013, 05:49:31 pm
It was mostly a temporary thing anyway.  There is no way to actually prevent it from ever happening again, just slow it down once in a while.  I'm sure its frustrating to people who want to post images.  Whats the other alternative?  Let people post images right away, but they have to be moderator approved before they show (for the first 15)?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 14, 2013, 05:03:16 am
ok so there was this whole thing in a portrait thread, starting here (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1877619)

leading to:
(http://i.imgur.com/NPuU3G7.png)
(mugenwip is vitor's original name)

so basically Hephaistos was acting very aggressively (accusing him of requesting things to be made, saying he was worthless because he didn't have contributor status) towards vitor and vitor snapped (changed his sig to this (http://i44.tinypic.com/3523fia.png), and sent that stupid PM). Unsure of how to proceed, besides cleaning the thread, 'cause Vitor's behavior seems ban-worthy to me, but Hephaistos also instigated it, and I dunno I'm tired and I demand counsel!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 14, 2013, 05:27:23 am
Yikes.  After reading all of that... that, I'd agree with a ban on Vitor for the sig thing as well as just hugely overreacting in general.  A few days, no more than a week.  Hephaistos I think is probably okay, but maybe with a warning to not engage in arguments like that from now on.  Yeah, he sort of started it, but his initial post wasn't anything worse than the usual dicketry that runs rampant around here.  And everything after that seems to be instigated more by Vitor flying all the way off the handle.  And getting weirdly racist against French people for no discernible reason?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 14, 2013, 07:51:19 pm
Done
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 18, 2013, 08:39:14 am
something is going on here and I don't understand it (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1880317)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 18, 2013, 10:04:16 pm
something is going on here and I don't understand it (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1880317)

that guy was banned in the past, he was sending homophobic pms to bea calling her a we are dumb fucks spamming this site for ten years and sending insults to gays

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/real-bastard-43462
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 19, 2013, 05:21:55 pm
http://devonlegacy.com/comics/32

Did we ban someone named Colton Peters? The name sounds familiar. Scroll to the bottom of the comments.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 20, 2013, 01:39:25 am
last person we banned that obsessed with you was solbz
I  doubt its him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 21, 2013, 11:17:30 pm
Vitor is up to his old tricks. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1881848) I gave him a stern warning.

Since no one else commented on the whole Mr. Silver situation, I'll try and say something. I'm not sure if we should ban him for ban evading but I wouldn't exactly be opposed, either. So yeah that's a big help to everyone right.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 30, 2013, 01:32:11 pm
im slighty disturbed that no one found in himself to comment so far.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Koop on January 02, 2014, 06:33:53 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/ihateweegeeisgoingtokillm-83332

Removed forever to prevent obvious spam fest.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 02, 2014, 06:34:14 pm
Forever banned whoever this is. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/ihateweegeeisgoingtokillm-83332)

WHOA, he's like infinite banned to the second power?!!! o_o
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 23, 2014, 08:53:16 pm
This guy right here

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/artboy2oo7-16954

Is the quintesential super annoying, socially incompetent internet tough guy and the worst poster I've seen in years. I want him GONE.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 23, 2014, 09:25:53 pm
*checks post history*

Wow yeah, that guy is a top-tier shitlord.  Has he been given a warning about it yet, though?  We still gotta have due process and all that.  If not, fire off a warning shot, and if he doesn't shape up then give him the boot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Thedge on January 23, 2014, 09:31:19 pm
He's already gone for what it seems.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 23, 2014, 09:49:41 pm
I thought Jmorphman had warned him, and his posts after that were every bit as bad, so I banned him for 3 days (by GONE I meant 'gone for good').

Turns out Jmorphman didn't warn him, I goofed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 24, 2014, 12:02:25 am
And nothing of value was lost.




Still, warn the guy now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 24, 2014, 01:08:22 am
I was going to unban him after my previous post, but then I found something interesting in his post history: three years ago (as his name implies, he's been around since '2oo7') he released a screenpack/compilation and acknowleged it as such.

So this display of stupidity does not stem from a misunderstanding and being hardheaded, he knew what he was doing, why are compilations different from 'fullgames' for the average forum goer and still acted like a tool to everyone else afterwards. So this is definetly different from a normal 'first time offense'.

I still want him gone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 26, 2014, 02:52:41 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mugennein-80041
alt account of
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/bakaman999999999-82411

appears to be using a proxy now (after I confronted him), but they were identical a few days ago, and note the timing of Baka_man's signing out right before Nazi guy signs in. Since he's using this account to troll, and is trying to avoid detection after being confronted, I think some kind of banning is warranted.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 26, 2014, 03:22:26 pm
agreed alt accounts merit a ban whenever used to ill ends.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 28, 2014, 09:45:32 pm
Wild tengu created a racist account "moojin lawd" where he portrayed himself as br and went on to post everywhere trying to flamebait people.
I have banned him and merged his accounts.

Meanwhile he linked to mugenlordtv youtube channel as if it was his own.
So, not only is he a racist he went and tried to shit everyone release threads and he pretended to be mugenlord.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 28, 2014, 10:03:30 pm
Jesus Christ he's really gone off the deep end, hasn't he.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 30, 2014, 02:50:53 am
Now that MC2 has quit forever no really I mean it this time for the eleventeenth time, does anyone else think that maybe we actually should just go ahead and permaban him so that he actually stays gone this time?  He's devolved into a self-involved narcissist that makes Navana look tame in comparison, and he's been nothing but destructive to this community for as long as I can remember.  I don't see what we possibly stand to gain by waiting for him to get hungry for attention again and come blustering back here in a week or two to start more arguments.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on January 30, 2014, 02:55:20 am
I say go for it. He's stirred up far too much shit for this not to be justified. He himself said he'd be putting his oh so important palettes into characters behind the scenes so even then he doesn't have much to offer in terms of content. He's far overdue for this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 30, 2014, 02:58:54 am
I don't particularly see a need for it. Not unless he does something that warrants it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on January 30, 2014, 03:02:55 am
This happened. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/suggestion-remove-person-man-staff-156935.msg1900751.html#msg1900751)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 30, 2014, 03:14:11 am
But I can't say the same for CAN.  You, sir, are genuinely the sleaziest, greasiest little weasel I have ever met on the internet since Darkflare.  Your lips are permanently attached to the asses of the people you want things from, you are a brown-nosing yes man who panders to those he wants attention from.
is the kinda thing that's banworthy, for a couple of days (no more than a month tops, IMO). He's been warned for this before enough. I don't think it's worthy of an especially long ban though, especially when he's not gonna feel it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on January 30, 2014, 03:16:09 am
I suppose you've a point there. I still feel like it's long overdue, but then again the circumstances are kinda...yeah. That.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 30, 2014, 03:26:30 am
For the most part we try not to permaban anyway. Interesting 1st day for you. I didn't see this coming :p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on January 30, 2014, 03:29:08 am
I didn't see this coming :p
I did.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 30, 2014, 03:40:22 am
It's not just this, but his attitude in general.  For the longest time, he has posted in almost exclusively hyperbolic, inflammatory attacks on other users for the sole purpose of drawing attention to himself.  A handful of pretty colors for mugen characters every now and then is not worth all of the pointless drama he creates.  In all likelihood, he'll be back within a month, start insulting people because they're not as uber elite FGC super-pro as him, and then throw another big bitch-fit about how everyone on the staff are incompetent assholes conspiring against him the moment anyone says anything about it.

Could someone else weigh in here?  I'd really like to get some consensus one way or the other just so he doesn't have an excuse to pretend I'm mad over that 'fire person man' thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 30, 2014, 03:55:56 am
I agree with you. I just don't want to perma ban him. Everything you said is true.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 30, 2014, 04:04:24 am
How about 6 months then?  He's the one who said he's never coming back.  With any luck, that'll be enough time to make his "I'm leaving forever you scrubs" gimmick actually stick.  Either that, or he might actually take some time for self-reflection and realize what a jerk he is.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 30, 2014, 04:09:02 am
Considering the list JMM gave and how he came back to instantly cause issues I think helping him stay gone this time may be a good thing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 30, 2014, 05:15:36 am
Let's lend him a hand!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on January 30, 2014, 08:54:16 am
Wait... Pusha 2 said that about CAN!? I completely disagree with his statement. Since I'm new to this discussion I can't chime in on bans. I take an unnecessary hiatus and miss out on that!?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 30, 2014, 09:40:19 am
I dunno who did it, but a note to everyone involved.
Dont merge threads like the one that mc2 did with the "shit thread" just because it derailed.

It started as feedback and even if its feedback you dont agree, to merge it with shit threads makes it impossible to properly consult in the future, this thread itself now has all the quote links broken due to merging it with a 171 page thread. I will be separating it back to its original form when im able today.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 30, 2014, 10:41:47 am
I did it. It wasn't because it derailed. I mean that was part if it. It started off not even being real feedback at all. Just MC2 doing his usual thing. Right off the bat we knew it wasn't feedback but just a cry for attention and by the end saw how clearly it really was "elaborate" trolling.

If another person had given actual feedback about a staff member it may have been different. But it wasn't real and didn't deserve to be viewed as a real thread.

I didn't know merging harmed any quote links. Anyway, it's not out of order or anything. I split the topic and moved it back.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 30, 2014, 11:29:45 am
the "shit " thread should be used only for stuff that doesnt merit a thread of its own but its not really harming anything, stuff like an argument that was derailing a thread but its not worth either deleting it or make it a singular thread for itself.


Any situation such as this i think its best to let it "be".
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 30, 2014, 02:16:25 pm
I went ahead and gave MC2 a six month ban.  I was kind of hoping someone else would end up doing it, since you all know how I'm an aggressive douchebag abusing my mod powers to settle personal vendettas because I know I'll always get away with it, but whatever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on January 30, 2014, 04:40:09 pm
Interesting. I'm not familiar with how you ban someone yet, but your decision sounds like a sound one. I suppose the day will come when I pick up that red phone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 30, 2014, 04:52:47 pm
You always try NOT to ban. Talk, give clear verbal warnings, PM, be civil. If all things fail a ban is issued. In most cases we tend to go with the incrementing time formula.

1st ban is 3 days. Then a month. Then 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, etc till they are basically permabanned. MC2 has been banned so often I forget where he's at =p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on January 30, 2014, 04:55:15 pm
Good to know. I always felt that this was the proper way to go about doing things. Excellent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 30, 2014, 05:23:41 pm
Yeah, banning should always be a last resort unless it's a really drastic situation.  Like a couple of weeks ago when that one guy went nuts and started flooding dozens of threads with hundreds of porn pics, we had to ban him immediately just to get him stop posting long enough to clean up the mess.  But stuff like that where someone needs to be banned immediately are very few and far between.

Like JNP said, the best course of action is to always try and resolve things peacefully first.  Talk to whoever's causing the offense, let them know what's up.  Nine times out of ten, you won't even need to bother with an actual warning if you can talk things out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on January 30, 2014, 05:33:00 pm
Sounds good and thank you for elaborating a bit on this guys. And I had no clue that someone was going around doing that!! Holy shit that's crazy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 07, 2014, 01:10:51 am
Corrado/mugenwip (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/suggestion-remove-person-man-staff-156999.msg1905337.html#msg1905337) doesn't seem to be getting any hints that his flamebaiting isn't welcome in the slightest. I'm thinking of giving him a slap on the wrist or something. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 07, 2014, 01:36:00 am
Saik inadvertently helped that last incident along. I don't think saikoro is going to reply back again even if Corrado makes another post. If he's ignored and still keeps posting in the same manner then we'll take some sort of action.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 07, 2014, 01:36:34 am
Alright. I wouldn't be surprised if he did, anyways.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 07, 2014, 03:55:24 am
Well, I did apologize for confusion on the inadvertent incident. Looking back, yes, I was looking out for Hephaistos and I didn't read as deep as I should have. But that's over with now and I hope this dude takes what I said for what it's worth. If you look at Corrando's posting history, he's kinda hard to follow in my opinion. Which didn't help in my situation either.

I'm still gonna keep my eye on him. A bunch of reports have come in about him recently and that's not a good sign.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 07, 2014, 03:59:36 am
If he does post again there should be a clear warning that says "this is an official warning, you will be banned yadda yadda yadda" before any action is taken, to make everything clear because there is a somewhat substantial language barrier.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 07, 2014, 04:06:02 am
I'll keep that in mind next time I see him act up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 07, 2014, 03:43:29 pm
Fags.

That is not apropriate behaviour, dont insult people and dont use homosexual bashing remarks.


warning issued
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 07, 2014, 05:42:51 pm
Fair enough. I find that reply completely unacceptable especially considering the magnitude of the previous situation. I also see another justification of why he said that coming.  :knife:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 07, 2014, 09:23:25 pm
So much for 'trying to move on from the past.'  >_>
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 07, 2014, 10:00:00 pm
It feels to me as if he is looking to see how far he can go and push us. So he said he is over the whole "cryptic nonsense." He then goes along and posts fag. What concerns me is what he will do next.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 08, 2014, 04:55:39 am
Well, at least that seems to be over. I'm going to advocate that we let bygones be bygones and not take any action.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 08, 2014, 06:42:40 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mugennein-80041
alt account of
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/bakaman999999999-82411

appears to be using a proxy now (after I confronted him), but they were identical a few days ago, and note the timing of Baka_man's signing out right before Nazi guy signs in. Since he's using this account to troll, and is trying to avoid detection after being confronted, I think some kind of banning is warranted.
I ended up permabanning the alt account since his accounts were never merged. I think they still should be so that people know that this guy posted a Nazi screenpack under a false name and I dunno people seemed to be mostly fine with the screenpack itself but since it was made so obviously to troll maybe his main account should get a slap on the wrist or something? I dunno!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 08, 2014, 06:52:13 pm
At this point, I think there's no need to do anything to the Nazi Screenpack. It's "initial post popularity" has died down and I don't think anyone really cares at this point. I also think posting history determined that everyone looked at it as a lighthearted joke.

Taking care of those accounts is all you need to do. in this case.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 08, 2014, 08:10:56 pm
Eh, I say giving the main account a quick 3-days ban or something similar would be enough of a warning to cut shit out like that in the future if a warning via PM is too soft.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 08, 2014, 11:25:05 pm
Eh, I say giving the main account a quick 3-days ban or something similar would be enough of a warning to cut shit out like that in the future if a warning via PM is too soft.

That sounds fair enough for the alt. account/trolling aspect. But for the Nazi screenpack itself, naaah. I think that should be left alone. As I mentioned already, I think people already forgotten about it, and I didn't see anything remotely troubling about it or see any posts in particular that regarded attention from what I remember.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 09, 2014, 01:50:55 am
Banned both AZ and NERO over spamming after having the spam deleted once.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 09, 2014, 01:59:08 am
So that post of gibberish is considered spam??
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 09, 2014, 01:59:38 am
It added nothing to the topic, was continuously being posted in spite of warnings and deletions, and took up a ton of space. Sounds like spam to me.

EDIT: I'm starting to think about giving Anti-11 a three day time out. He's clearly not gonna stop no matter who says what.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 09, 2014, 02:10:38 am
I agree with you on the Ban for Anti. His replies are going beyond me.. hell, all of us since we all stepped in and his shit is still going on.

I say 3 to 7 days as a kind slap on the wrist. Second call should be 3 months. Third and final is permanent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 09, 2014, 02:14:32 am
I say 3 to 7 days as a kind slap on the wrist. Second call should be 3 months. Third and final is permanent.
Overkill there, buddy. The usual protocol is 3 days, a week, a month, three months, six months, a year, etc. Permas are pretty rarely handed out these days and only under extreme circumstances.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 09, 2014, 02:17:11 am
Only if he doesnt respond to reason, and even then, only if he starts becoming an actual nuisance. But yes, 3 day slap on the wrist kind of thing if ANYTHING.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 09, 2014, 02:18:11 am
I'm gonna add a personal buffer zone onto this before I see it fit to drop the hammer on him. If he posts...let's see, two or three more times in the same pattern he has been, then slap on the wrist. Sound fair?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 09, 2014, 02:21:10 am
Gotchya. This is technically my first ban recommendation/concurrence you know. I thought that was a proper scale given Anti-11's attitude. That's all. :mmhmm:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 09, 2014, 02:28:45 am
I think Anti is actually trying to get banned.  See he response to the spam-bans Iced just handed out, where he's all but asking "hey how come those guys got banned and not me?"  This happens every so often.  Someone just decides they don't want to visit here anymore, but instead of just not coming to the website they start actively antagonizing people so that they'll get banned.  As if they can't just leave unless they're kicked out.

Even a three-day thing would be giving him what he wants.  He's really not doing anything except making a lot of empty noise, so I think if we just let him burn himself out the situation will resolve itself.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 09, 2014, 02:29:51 am
The guild shifted perspective with Sepp, years ago, before it was a place full of elitism and classes, friends getting special allowances to do whatever they wanted, that kind of crap.

Sepp methods involved being open to criticism ( and being heavily anti kfm/ classism) , we should be patient and recognize that criticism is a thing that happen, not something that we should react negatively to.
If someone is giving you criticism that sounds ridiculous you should first attempt to reach the person , then attempt to explain what you think is ridiculous, if you feel that the person is completely ignoring you and just attempting to soapbox and bait , only then, after giving them some patience and etc, should you consider action.

Criticism isnt ban worthy, remember that.


Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 09, 2014, 02:32:48 am
I tried multiple times to get him to give out specific examples and criticism and whatnot, but as I'm sure is blatantly obvious, he's been doing nothing but preach empty words.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 09, 2014, 02:34:13 am
Seeking out means to get banned.... makes my head twitch. But you make a very good point. With what you said, the only thing I question is how long will it take for him to "burn out" and what will it actually take for that to happen?? He has already caused quite a stir, so from what I gather, it's only going to get a little worse since everyone is giving into/replying to his crap.

I tried multiple times to get him to give out specific examples and criticism and whatnot, but as I'm sure is blatantly obvious, he's been doing nothing but preach empty words.

THIS. To the both of us.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 09, 2014, 02:38:27 am
There's no doubt Anti 11 is trying to stir shit up. His criticism is complete bullshit and those two spammers must be his homies from some xat.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 09, 2014, 03:03:40 am
Most of that thread isn't even serious, it's random nonsense.  If if was a serious thread in the feedback section, you MIGHT have a case for a warning.  As it is he's giving his opinion on what he's seeing/reading of staff discussions.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 09, 2014, 03:40:03 am
I agree with MissB. His posts feel like parody in of themselves anyway. I don't think he should be warned or banned for what he's doing. What' he's doing is pretty silly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 10, 2014, 04:03:45 am
Just a heads up, I've issued my first official warning to this guy:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/joeytehmugenguy-82866

He repeatedly posted seperate request threads, maybe like 3 or 4 today. I merged them all for him and told him multiple times to stop, and explained he gets one request thread. This was before Orochi Gill led me to find Basara had already made another thread for him of all his separate requests. He doesn't seem to want to listen to me so idk what the procedure here is if he continues. If anything I don't think it warrants real punishment its just annoying as hell.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 10, 2014, 04:07:49 am
Can we ban people from posting in a specific board for a short period of time? Or is/was that still a pipe dream?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on February 10, 2014, 04:11:49 am
i think that used to be a mod...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 10, 2014, 04:14:30 am
Also, Orochi Gill just gave me yet another heads up there was a mod that forced one thread. Valodim apparently never reinstalled it. Can we look into that.

You should just make Orochi Gill my replacement mod he's ghostwriting my posts....... .. .
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 10, 2014, 04:15:14 am
I can make a member group for it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 10, 2014, 04:16:10 am
We can't make Orochi Gill a mod, then people will hate us more than they already do!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 10, 2014, 04:17:11 am
As if that was possible
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 10, 2014, 04:20:35 am
Don't lump me in with you guys I'm pristine and uncorrupted.

I can make a member group for it
Is this just to restrict from posting in a board? Can you still maybe ask Val about that one thread mod being installed so we can avoid this again?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 10, 2014, 04:28:51 am
I can ask him next time I see him online. Results can take 2weeks to 8 years.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 10, 2014, 04:37:49 am
We can't make Orochi Gill a mod, then people will hate us more than they already do!
We'd have to start literally going to member's houses and slapping drinks out of their hands for them to hate us any more than they already do.

In regards to joey, unless we actually do have something to restrict him from posting more threads there's not a lot that we can do.  What he's doing isn't that bad on it's own, but if he keeps it up it could become viewed as a spamming problem.  If he continues to ignore warnings any further, I'd recommend a small one day ban, just to really hammer the point home.

Don't lump me in with you guys I'm pristine and uncorrupted.
One of us, one of us
Gooble gobble, gooble gobble
One of us, one of us
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 10, 2014, 04:40:29 am
Made the group NoRequest. Think I did it right.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 10, 2014, 04:45:06 am
So do we just slap this on him next time he does it? Would be fine by me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 10, 2014, 04:45:47 am
Yep.

Think I did it right.
A day later, JNP logs in and finds that the whole forum has burned down in a freak grease fire accident steming from the addition of the new membergroup.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 10, 2014, 04:58:51 am
In all honesty, I didn't even notice this JoeytehMUGENguy doing the shit Umezono was pointing out.

And just so that I am following this properly, a new membergroup was made called no request because of this guy's constant requesting as a way to circumvent him from doing so?? Again, I'm asking because I want to be sure I read this right. I also want to be sure I'm on the same age as everyone else here. :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 10, 2014, 05:00:53 am
It's cause I immediately merged everytime I saw it. I work fast lol. I doubt anyone noticed besides me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 10, 2014, 05:04:48 am
Mod logs show you haven't merged a thing!!! ABUSE ABUSE
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 10, 2014, 05:06:45 am
you caught me, i actually have a personal vendetta against joeytehmugenguy (he likes family guy) and have been persecuting him on the low under the guise of moderation. im sorry.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on February 10, 2014, 06:59:21 pm
Stop having fun!  You are staff, you are not allowed to have fun!

 :brood:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 10, 2014, 07:08:15 pm
Don't worry, for as I was typing out that witty banter; I was doing pushups, reading Sun Tzu so I can properly deal with notorious internet troll armies, and taking an oath of chastity to protect my righteous and just ideals
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 13, 2014, 11:57:39 am
cleared out two post derailing the alex release thread to be about mocking ryouwin
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/only-old-people-will-get-this-157371.msg1909945.html#msg1909945

Left Orochi gill post behind because while it wasnt all that useful its still some sort of feedback and not just mocking people.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 13, 2014, 07:37:56 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1910154

is this allowed. this is pretty disgusting
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 13, 2014, 07:42:58 pm
That is... wow. Why. I think it should be removed.

Also, it's the same guy who did the Nazi Fuher screenpack, and those accounts have still not been merged! >:[
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 13, 2014, 07:48:11 pm
I was just gonna delete it but I didn't wnat you guys to audit the mod logs later and yell at me for not doing it proper

I'll remove it and stuff like it in the future if you guys are okay with iut. I personally don't think Guild is the place to post MUGEN porn.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 13, 2014, 07:49:45 pm
nvm, i'm gonna delete it. this covers it.

There has been some confusion about this in the past, so we decided to lay down a few rules about explicit content:
  • Mild nudity ("boobs + butt") and more aesthetic stuff is ok clearly marked as NSFW, preferably put into a [spoiler] tag.
  • Anything "hardcore" is obviously out of bounds.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 13, 2014, 11:12:28 pm
Man. I take the day off and I come back to what appears to be unnecessary drama. What was posted and removed??

Also, I am unfamiliar with merging... anything. :(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 20, 2014, 04:55:32 am
If you need to play around with and test different mod functions you can make a test thread in the private board and a test thread in public staff. Play with the poll options. Locking, stickying, merging, splitting, etc

That way you'll get a better feel of those functions.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 20, 2014, 08:00:59 am
Suggestion noted.

I didn't think of that. :omg:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 22, 2014, 05:24:50 am
Let's talk about S.D.

Oh so you ask a semi-smart question (At least for you) and then play the "LOL I WAS TROLLING U" card? (And not even with the right timing)
Are you fucking stupid?
Ugh, we know Uche isn't the brightest crayon in the box.
Have you even played the game or are you just being an idiot "for the lulz" :v
Is this guy really 29 years old?
Were you dropped as a baby?
subject: "Re: Why is your reading comprehension so damn terrible?"
How can you tell? Have yuo played it before?
JEEZ, can't you infer that from my post dUche?
It's not like the first game is easily available for the PC, and it's not like one of my semi-local arcades has it too ::)
subject: "Re: Your posts are as disjointed as your brain cells."
What the fuck are you talking about?
this is all from the past week.

I think we discussed a ban for this kind of thing, in relation to Omega, but I was the only one for it. I don't feel like digging those up but I feel like these alone should prompt some kind of action.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 22, 2014, 05:28:05 am
I'm pretty sure he's been warned about this kind of behavior before if my talks with some of the other peeps are any indication. I'd suggest maybe a quick slap on the wrist or a final warning PM would do.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 22, 2014, 05:29:35 am
lol its the internet tough guy act everyone pulls at some point, including us. and some of that stuff isnt that bad. he kinda overplayed his hand tho with some of the harsher shit. just tell him to cut it out imo, but i dont know the history so my judgement aint worth much here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 22, 2014, 05:40:54 am
Yeah, we had a PM report a bit before that complaining about him. Our decision was that next time we post here and send him a PM as a final warning to cool it off.

Alternatively it can be posted in the thread all this went down in.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 22, 2014, 05:44:47 am
I dont understand why SD is so livid about uche posts.  I can understand being frustated , but there is a big difference between telling someone they are wrong and exploding everytime they say something that isnt cromulent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 22, 2014, 05:46:55 am
this isnt important, but cromulent is an awesome word.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 22, 2014, 05:48:50 am
Don't use cromulent, I'm the only person who was using it here and you're cramping my style.

So warning, I guess. None of these posts were reported so everyone shouldn't rely the report section if this kind of thing happens again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on February 22, 2014, 05:58:41 am
using the ignore list is the healthier option sometimes
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 22, 2014, 06:00:48 am
It doesn't work as well as advertised. Trust me, I've tried. Curiosity kills the cat for a reason.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 22, 2014, 06:01:53 am
using the ignore list is the healthier option sometimes
cmon... youd have to be a rational person to do that....
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on February 22, 2014, 05:51:13 pm
I say a fair warning is proper here. Everyone can be abrasive to the point of being insulting at some point. Call him out and then take proper action if he acts up again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 24, 2014, 05:53:05 am
I'd like to call to attention this thread:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/problems-grand-stardust-157346.0.html

Note I am not personally calling out CAN or any part of his character, but I heavily disagree with the way this was handled. It was unprofessional and rather rude how Trinitronity was treated. Now disclaimer here, this guy has done some dumb things and is usually treated as such in those cases. But all he did here was bump his several day old release topic and ask for help again. The reasoning was kind of lame (he had a release deadline or some shit) but if he hadn't done it, he probably would not have recieved the thorough help and feedbacking Vans provided to him, which for all intents and purposes solved his issues.

Again this is not to call out CAN, but this is just my general thoughts on the issue, and I think people should know this. For ease of access here is the major problem:

You've been told multiple times not to bump your own topics like this. Try following said advice in the future.

Yeah, but how is then someone supossed to help me, if the thread isn't in the first page anymore, and only threads in the first page even has a chance to get help?
And I really REALLY need help there.

Dude, if nobody has the answer within a week or longer, chances are you aren't going to get help within the topic. Again, quit bumping your own topics like this. It's not rocket science, no matter how much you desperately need the help.

So that means, if my thread gets in the second page, I have to make a new thread with the same problem and delete the old topic then?

I firmly believe this is not the case. If your topic has fallen to the second page, and you still need help because it remains unresolved, as OP you have a right to do so. The topic in question was like 10 days old, and I believe the necro guideline here is like 3 weeks. Even so, we usually let slide necros from the OPs of the thread because it is their thread. So if your thread falls off the first place and you still need to find help, definitely feel free to bump it. I don;t know what the issue here was because it is perfectly fine to do what he did. And because he did what he did, he received help from Vans.

The only way I would see an exception to this is if you kept doing it repeatedly on perhaps a very old topic, which was not the case here. But in general if its your thread, you have the right to bump it within reason. I don;t think you should be able to abuse and continue bumping in a row every day, but if a week goes by and you bump it, and another goes by and you bump it, I don't really see a problem. Its quite non-intrusive.

Missing the point, dude. If you can't get the help, making a new topic won't change that. Try PM'ing somebody for the help instead of bumping newer topics back because you don't know how to simply follow instructions.

It's true making a new topic won't really increase any odds, which is why using the old one is fine. But you should never feel like you have to go about your issues in private because nobody answered them right away.

That is all I have to say. I think CAN is a fantastic moderator otherwise, but I disagree with his handling of this situation and feel it should be rectified.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 24, 2014, 05:54:52 am
I was going by the fact that for the most part bumping your own topic like that is pretty much a no-no. Not much else to say.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 24, 2014, 05:55:46 am
I don't think that is a no-no at all. It had fallen off the first page. If it's on the first page then it would be an issue I'd say.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 24, 2014, 05:57:21 am
I'm mostly going by how it would bump another topic off of the front page pretty much for the purpose of doing so. I still stand by my decision, especially since it hasn't raised any issues until now. This isn't the first time I've gone through that not bumping your topic routine.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 24, 2014, 06:00:07 am
I disagree again, if it falls off the page, than they can bump it themselves if they really need the help. If they're sincere about their problems they'll want to do it. There's no system in place for how long Trin should've waited before his topic has been deemed bumpable. Once its off the first page, not really anybody is gonna see it. So he's justified in what he did, he asked again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 24, 2014, 11:41:31 am
I'm with Umezono. There are unwritten rules to when one can allow bumping of certain threads. MUGEN development type threads have a sort of higher priority. Especially from the thread starter. Waiting 10 days and seeing the thread fall to page 2 is pretty patient.

If we could get Valodim to make the solved threads fall below unsolved threads that would help tremendously to keep more pertinent threads on the front page.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 25, 2014, 01:15:56 am
I guess I'll keep that in mind in the future. Some rules seriously need to be written to prevent this kind of stuff in the future. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 25, 2014, 01:21:48 am
A lot of the time it's kind of moderator's discretion. You did nothing wrong. Just keep a bit of bias and leniency in favor of mugen developmental threads. The biggest objective of this forum is to aid in creating, learning, and releasing. The most strict boards for modding necros or "bad" topic bumps are the release and WIP boards. Of course you know the OP in those boards may necro. Some of this stuff will just come with time. It's no big deal. :)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 25, 2014, 01:23:08 am
Yeah, it def comes with time. You can start to get a feel for when bumps are being abused pretty easy
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 25, 2014, 01:23:15 am
Just keep a bit of bias and leniency in favor of mugen developmental threads.
That right there is what I'll have to really keep in mind. Best to learn from small screw-ups than from big ones.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 25, 2014, 03:03:17 am
Yeah, it def comes with time.
Comes with time, he says.  You know, strictly speaking he's been a mod longer than you.   :innocent:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 25, 2014, 03:21:52 am
strictly speaking i've moderated a number of other boards and know my way around so its okay. i picked up ideas from him as well. we can learn from eachother.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 25, 2014, 03:36:13 am
I know, I'm just teasing.  :P  New guys always have to go through a bit of ribbing.  It's tradition or something like that.  You should have seen the stuff that Iced put me and Morph-Man through.  I still haven't gotten all the stains out.

For what it's worth, you're totally right.  This is one of those things where we can't really lay down real rules because it's such a murky gray area.  You just kind of need to develop an intuition for it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 25, 2014, 03:39:15 am
no im sorry that was offensive and i will not stand for such abuse. id like you removed from staff immediately. my rant will be forwarded to you soon.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on February 25, 2014, 09:51:51 pm
actually being extremely serious @person man: im curious what those evil tyrants jmorph and iced did

did you have to clean toilets with a toothbrush
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 25, 2014, 10:22:23 pm
actually being extremely serious @person man: im curious what those evil tyrants jmorph and iced did
What, no, I wasn't one of the tyrants*, I was contemporary with Person Man! >:[

*yet, of course
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 25, 2014, 11:42:42 pm
actually being extremely serious @person man: im curious what those evil tyrants jmorph and iced did

did you have to clean toilets with a toothbrush
You mean Iced and titiln.

And worse , I made them both take part in spirited discussion with mugenites.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 25, 2014, 11:48:28 pm
actually being extremely serious @person man: im curious what those evil tyrants jmorph and iced did

He says if we talk about it he'll release the photographs to the public.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 01, 2014, 03:30:18 am

After mod warning jz and others started playing a game of keepaway with jnp, deleted the derail.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/boardseen./topics/re-1000-best-things-about-mugen-157745.msg1919696.html#new

Also today, insults towards women were soft moderated and jz started bitching about that as well, that got separated and thrown into the shit thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 01, 2014, 03:50:33 am
That guy seriously needs to stop taking every single thing as a personal attack against him.

That being said, I don't see why most of that stuff in your link was deleted?  I see one, maybe two posts of JZ being kind of rude for no real reason but the rest of those posts, including most of his, seem totally fine to me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 01, 2014, 03:52:53 am
its a numbered thread, and a lot of them were replying to each other, so i deleted the whole slate that started with the derail and the consequent hentai char and site discussion. 

pick and choose posts and you are left with gaps on that list they are trying to do and posts that reference others that are no longer there.

Edit: I just realized i posted this in decisions instead of warnings.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 02, 2014, 04:21:07 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mariodude21-81228

Keep an eye on this kid.  He was going around in releases posting petty insults and keyboard-mashing spam, and then needlessly reported a bunch of posts to try and take potshots at mods for some reason?  Then he went over to the Feedback to Warnings thread and started daring us to ban him.  Which is weird because up until today he's been a perfectly normal user.  I cleaned up the mess he made and gave him a warning, but watch out for him just in case.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 02, 2014, 04:33:41 pm
his account has been dehactivated after someone changed his email to a gibberish email.


Email Address    alannunes77@gmail.com    zoom@pbs.org    about 2 hours ago    Mariodude21

So he cant post.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on March 02, 2014, 04:49:48 pm
I cleaned up the mess he made and gave him a warning, but watch out for him just in case.

He actually reported Jmorphman for doing what us mods do, telling him to "shut the fuck up." Really??

Thought I'd bring that up.

     Posted: March 02, 2014, 04:53:13 pm
I'd also like to add that he reported CvtW due to a... lame roster. Really?? Have we PMed him yet?? I don't like this guy's attitude one bit and feel he should be given a fair and stern warning.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 02, 2014, 04:53:36 pm
his account has been dehactivated after someone changed his email to a gibberish email.


Email Address    alannunes77@gmail.com    zoom@pbs.org    about 2 hours ago    Mariodude21

So he cant post.

Huh.  That part I did not notice.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on March 02, 2014, 04:59:06 pm
Ah. I just noticed the red text decorating his profile. Groovy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 02, 2014, 05:54:48 pm
Reposting here:
Seems he made another account (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/dinky21-83763) to keep going. I just gave it a three days ban because I'm really not in the mood to deal with this kind of shit.

EDIT: It's permanent now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 06, 2014, 05:17:47 am
Double post because proper bumping action.

Navana has been unbanned. He's been explicitly told that he is on a very tight leash and will be banned if he reverts to any of his old negative behaviors. However, anybody who appears to be attempting to provoke him will be held accountable for their actions.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 08, 2014, 08:23:04 pm
Leaving this here for people who haven't checked up on the Feedback thread yet:
Im guessing double account of someone that got banned.
Indeed.
Admission of being an alt.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 08, 2014, 08:24:19 pm
Ban him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 08, 2014, 08:25:46 pm
I'm reluctant to do so atm. He hasn't really done much else ban-worthy? Idk I'm bad at this kinda stuff.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 08, 2014, 08:27:29 pm
Can we please set up some sort of concrete rule for alt accpunts
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 08, 2014, 08:28:44 pm
A ban isn't something you can just opt out of. He was banned for a good reason. He's clearly not interested in hiding nor is he interested in acting in a way besides the one that got him banned last time. C'mon, it'll be a learning experience.

Also post after and say, "don't evade bans. and if you try, you aren't supposed to be caught, cause that's missing entirely what JNP was saying"

I'm doing CotM right now so you do it!!

also might as well move this to public staff, I'll do it in a shortly, after the poll
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 08, 2014, 08:30:29 pm
A ban isnt something you can just choose not to follow because you are too good for that. If someone wants to get unbanned they can contact adminstration we have always reviewed bans .

If he was banned before hes still banned. If you end up using another account to escape a ban, you are not supposed to be getting caught.
That just makes people less likely to stay banned or be moderated if you let on the message that you can just make another alt account.


having an alt account has always been forbidden, its a shithead thing, you are fooling people with it. We have always banned alt accounts, going as far as giving temporary bans to people using alt accounts that werent banned to begin with.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 08, 2014, 08:31:30 pm
Banned him permanently.

EDIT: Moved it myself. Because learning experience.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 08, 2014, 08:37:50 pm
Wouldnt this belong in decisions
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 08, 2014, 08:42:21 pm
Warnings is member behavior, bans and the like. Decisions is all non-member behavior.

the stuff about Navana in Decisions should be moved here
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 08, 2014, 08:52:33 pm
Same account as pigeot_
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.summary;u=83350

Who also had an habit of posting in the feedback to warnings about how mods were too ban happy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 08, 2014, 09:23:43 pm
again i think we need some sort of official rule on how to handle alt accounts. the case by case thing justifies every complaint by every user because we are compromising ideals for some people and not for others.  i think there should be some sort of concrete procedure. if a banned user has an alt, we simply add it onto whatever sentence. if hes slated to be unbanned, we ban again for a short time or something to show we dont tolerate it. this would apply to anyone no matter how much they reformed. cause making an alt does show a level of subversiveness and unwillingness to change. thoughts? im not demanding this, i am sounding off ideas.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on March 08, 2014, 11:28:53 pm
Adding to above, if a banned user has an alt account, those subsequent accounts should be banned as well. No if's and's or butt's (With Navana being an example of unbanning someone and merging their alt accounts) The only problem would be keeping up with all of the secondary accounts the banned user creates.

Isn't there a way to monitor that besides searching through IPs??
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 09, 2014, 02:43:54 am
I don't think we can set any kind of bot like rules for alt accounts. If a user is banned the banning was a consequence of their actions. Typically here you have several chances before you get banned. So turning around and making an alternate account to evade the ban is a stupid thing to do. Because you have to keep it a secret. you cannot expose a hint of your true personality anymore.

Maverick did this. It wasn't "the right thing to do", but since we like to attempt to forgive users most of the time we can look past these things. He told Iced he had an alt account and asked if he could come back. It was reviewed. Some mods said no, more said yes. That was that.

It was not to encourage the sort of thing. It's a case by case basis. The gravity of what you did holds a lot of stroke. The staff changes and people's opinions in the staff change. This can present a different flow. Similar situations could potentially meet different resolutions. This isn't inherently bad (or good I suppose). It's just the evolution of the forum's direction.

The Navana incident was quite unique. The gravity of what he did wasn't so astounding however he's had a lot of chances. So he barely made it back in. But before that he created a back up plan with an alt account. Once he was unbanned he told me about this alt account.
My knee jerk thought was to ban him. But I stepped back and did other things to clear my head. On one hand he could have never told me this and stopped using the alt account. No one would have ever known. On the other hand he went ahead and told about it. So, do I condemn him because he once again proved he cannot help but do such things? Or do I let this neutralize itself a bit since he could have easily gotten away with it?

It wasn't an easy decision. Especially with so many people adamant about his removal. In the end  I chose to let the action sort of cancel itself out. Instead of being banned for 3 years he would be banned forever again with full documentation about this with links for future mods if he screwed up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 09, 2014, 03:05:29 am
I sent Navana a PM yesterday suggesting he stay under the radar for a few weeks and just hang around mugen sections.

So like Mugen Releases / Found Releases / Projects etc.? And if you don't mind me asking, will I ever be allowed to post in the other stuff again?
And another question, would you mind bringing up to the staff if I could have my forum signature / avatar privileges back, or at least ask if when I will be able to achieve them back,

I understand I'm not the only one he's asked to have av/sig privileges back?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 09, 2014, 03:07:09 am
No you're not. I told him not to press his luck. He needs to prove himself in the forum before we discuss removal of anything thing else. Dude has no idea how lucky he is to be posting with his account at all!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 09, 2014, 03:11:21 am
he also asked jmorphman who asked me.

Im guessing he got a no and moved to the next person trying to get a yes.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 09, 2014, 03:15:26 am
Ain't he a golden boy?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 09, 2014, 03:16:14 am
If you don't mind me asking could I have my forum signature / avatar privileges back, or at least ask if when I will be able to achieve them back. I know they were removed from a long time ago, and I don't intend to do anything wrong other than make the name "Daiyousei" and make some avatars of Daiyousei. That's it.

 :dizzy2:

Considering the uproar let's not push it by adding abilities back that were taken away.

Ask again in a month or two after you've put in some time proving yourself in the forums.

Understood. Thank you for the answer and explanation why. I appreciate it.

The time stamps should change according to your local settings, correct?

MissB, JMM, what times did he ask and did you guys respond? If it does look like he went from mod to mod hoping for a yes I'll ban him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 09, 2014, 06:18:13 am
I can't access my Forum Profile to upload an avatar or anything.
Could I be given permission to do so, if it is alright? Or if it is not allowed, I understand.
He's definitely going from mod to mod.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 09, 2014, 10:09:02 am
I mean if he got a "no" and then went to another mod asking. If he just sent the pm to some of us that's not bad. If he was told no and then went to another mod looking for a yes; that will make me ban him. So far the time stamps don't seem to indicate such.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 09, 2014, 10:12:27 am
ah, sorry

No, not right away. You'll have to earn it back.
Alright. I understand. Thank you for informing me.
I told him no right away. He waited a day before asking you and MissB, after being told no.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 09, 2014, 10:25:08 am
Haha fucking idiot. Well that didn't last long. Oh well. Against all the odds, the users rallying against him, and his alt account he still got a chance and still decided to be deceitful.

In most cases this would be exceptionally minor. But dude just can't grasp how thin the ice is >_>

I know this is about PMs but I'm moving this part to public so everyone can see the course of action. They're not highly private in nature.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 17, 2014, 02:03:55 am
You're a stupid cunt and you've never played Vampire Savior. Get out.
I'm not sure how JZ got away with posting this kind of garbage. I see the thread it took place in was already solved so I won't press for anything to happen here but if he posts something similar to this again he should definitely be banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 17, 2014, 02:15:37 am
The post he was replying to was terrible.

His reaction is bafflingly stupid though. Why come back just to insult a dumb poster everyone else has ignored for 3 days?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 17, 2014, 02:18:26 am
He apparently didn't feel like it was mocked enough.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 17, 2014, 02:25:14 am
He had abandoned the guild after umezono moderated him, so he come back specifically to post that, right?


While the original post was dumb, the situation had been solved, moderated even, it was a noob post, nothing to get too worked over, and so it happened that the thread had moved on since.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on March 17, 2014, 03:46:16 am
Sooooo... we're gonna let Jesuszilla's garbage sit in that thread?? Koopakoot made a good point that nobody removed it. Why is it still sitting there??

...now that I think about it, I'm gonna remove it as my instincts tell me to do so. If I did wrong please call me out on it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 17, 2014, 03:49:50 am
Saikoro you're not reading everything well again. The part Koopakoot was referring to was the post JZ respnded to. The thread is locked by the OP. No need to take any action in it now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on March 17, 2014, 03:50:38 am
:omg:

Damnit. This is the last time I do that. :doom:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 17, 2014, 03:54:26 am
I restored the post. Be sure to properly research what is going on before taking actions. You may need to double check Saikoro cause you miss details a lot =p

If in doubt it's better to ask for clarity than to take an action like that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 17, 2014, 02:55:44 pm
Why is Teitan allowed to shit on 5+ pages of the USF4 thread without a split, let alone a formal warning and/or thread ban?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 17, 2014, 03:05:08 pm
He is not shitting on anything, he just has a (wrong) opinion. Why would that warrant any action

     Posted: March 17, 2014, 03:10:46 pm
EDIT: My bad I wasn't really following what he was saying, yeah he's massively derailing. I still think it doesn't warrant a thread ban or warning, just tell him to stop posting in the thread. I thought we stressed reserved moderation here
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 17, 2014, 03:18:22 pm
I dunno. Probably because his (barely tangential and terrible) opinions have polluted MULTIPLE FUCKING pages and make the thread almost unreadable.They're extremely disruptive; anyone looking at the past few pages looking for comments of his fellow mfg posters on Decapre will have to dig through Teitan's nonsense.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 17, 2014, 03:36:48 pm
the argument is pretty self-contained, if it was cleared we wouldn't lose much because the decapre opinions didnt really mix in with the argument. however the initial posts by teitan about decapre are things hes entitled to say. the only issue i have is the later stuff that has nothing to do with usf4. either way its better to just end it with a public warning to stop and juts go on with life.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 21, 2014, 08:32:56 pm
I am warning Trinitronity because he has knowingly derailed 2 threads over the past day: "fave mugen oc" and "smash bros" topics. I find Trinitronity a different case than Teitan, his bullshit is certainly not self-contained and seems to pop up wherever he posts. He continually makes a bad opinion, which is fine by me, but then screws up by then starting a whole discussion over his persecution/victimization. Whenever he posts it seems like he goes to war with the entirety of the thread. Its frankly getting super annoying, hes done this like multiple times before, and if I need to I will compile a bunch of threads where he has with links and everything. This isnt a small issue of his like it was with Teitan. Either way, next time he does it I fully recommend a 3 day ban, increasing the duration each time he does it. I feel like this is the only way he will learn, at all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 21, 2014, 08:37:21 pm
I was about to make a post here about him before those reports even came up, but baby things happened.
He's been doing this in quite a few threads lately. Has he been warned by a moderator in thread or via PM yet? I agree that he's disrupting way too many threads.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 21, 2014, 08:38:59 pm
Im pretty sure hes been warned multiple times about his behavior in-thread, including by me i think. dunno if anything official has came out in the way of PMs.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 21, 2014, 08:45:40 pm
There's a difference in a casual warning from a mod and a legit "you're in trouble" warning. We need to differentiate them well because we can have discussions where we are just talking and telling a person "x" is bad but they're not in trouble for it.

That latest post I made in the Smash Bros thread is an example. Just because I'm a mod doesn't make my post there have more umph. It wasn't a command or warning. More like feedback.

I think Iced has had to really warn him though. Anyway, I'll shoot Trinitronity  a PM just to be sure.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 21, 2014, 10:12:18 pm
I have warned him officially about this stuff before; specifically I asked him not to post in my WIP thread (more of a casual warning kind of thing, as JNP mentioned), because the derailment there was getting so bad (note that I welcome off topic nonsense in my WIP thread most of the time: that a thread like that could be considered derailed means there is/was a Problem). He then posted three times after that, at which point I had to straight up ban him from it altogether.

He was also going off about something in the MUGEN screenshot thread and wouldn't drop it, so I warned him that he'd be banned from that thread if he kept it up.

It bothers me a bit to have to escalate things where a ban is being considered when none of the derailments have been made particularly maliciously, but it's gotten really, really bad. I'd prefer no bans over this but if a time out (or more) is what's needed to get him to stop doing this, then we just gotta do it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 22, 2014, 12:41:27 am
I can't say too much about this nonsense that hasn't already been said. He's been told off by several people, staff included, and yet he still goes off with the same "I'm sorry, I'll do better, next time..." response which never actually pans out to mean anything. It's just turning out to be a cycle of repetitive annoyance that does nothing but infuriate everybody involved.

It's also getting on my nerves, especially with people bringing him up to me in private conversations where my duties are, frankly, a lesser concern. One derail was fine. Another was pushing it. This is absolutely absurd. I'm of the opinion that he won't improve without any actual consequences, because the constant mockery and warnings certainly aren't cutting it. I say we give him a time-out if he derails another thread like that.

EDIT: He derailed another topic (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1931886) and kept on dragging the argument up after the topic had clearly changed. A time-out might be at hand.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 24, 2014, 01:57:28 am
Dude is in warnception. He's had warnings within warnings within warnings. Next time just go straight for the time out and report it here. Trinitronity, I wouldn't try to fight this one in the feedback to warnings thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 24, 2014, 02:04:34 am
Yeah, I didn't want to say too much before because I wasn't sure how much of it was just typical bad posting and how much was actually being disruptive, but Trin has really gotten out of hand.  He's not even pretending to try to do better, he just keeps attempting to hide behind the flimsy excuse that he doesn't know how to post better so that somehow means nobody should say anything when he's being annoying.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 24, 2014, 09:07:44 pm
So is  this troll  (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/jape-51623) still a protected species?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 24, 2014, 09:08:32 pm
Looks like Trinitronity 's derailed another thread:
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/all-that-s-left-re-some-food-thought--158326.0.html
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/all-that-s-left-re-some-food-thought--158327.0.html

I guess what, 3 days? Still kinda bothers me, having to resort to a ban. Oh well.

So is  this troll  (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/jape-51623) still a protected species?
Protected species?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 24, 2014, 09:13:31 pm
even though it wasnt that bad and i have reservations about jape myself, what trin doing was obviously once again derailing for attention. if it were a first time thing id be really against this, but for now im all for the ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 24, 2014, 09:15:04 pm
He's had MAYBE 5 non-trolling posts in the 4 years he's been registered.  He's been discussed before and while I don't have a problem with him (he's sometimes amusing) I don't know as its fair to let his trolling, spamming and shitposting go on while banning someone else for derailing his troll thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 24, 2014, 09:20:19 pm
Yeah, it might be best to call this a wash and wait and see if Trinitronity derails something of actual import, maybe?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 24, 2014, 09:31:44 pm
the threads intent is unclear but it turned into a discussion about food that could obviously be seen in the posts before he decided to make it into another jerkoff fest between everyone who hates him and himself. its getting obvious and annoying regardless of thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 24, 2014, 10:05:46 pm
Good point. Alright, gonna ban him, I guess. 3 days. Any objections?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 24, 2014, 10:35:29 pm
May as well get it over with now.  He's certainly not going to take the hint any other way.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 24, 2014, 11:08:25 pm
jape should at least get banned for a week, considering its not the first time, hes not doing anything here except acting like a retard and pretending to be autistic.

Kick him to the curb. Repeat and double next time, quadruple it the time after, octuple it the time after.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 24, 2014, 11:17:16 pm
That seems fair. I already deleted his Diablo 3 thread because it was worthless and no one had replied to it to make it somewhat worthwhile like that food one; might as well send a strong message that this shit isn't gonna fly.

also Trinitronity is banned for 3 days
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 25, 2014, 12:07:00 am
I think he should be warned first.  As long as he didn't do anything illegal, he should get a verbal warning first.

is the forum timing out/loading REALLY slow for anyone else?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 25, 2014, 12:09:22 am
is the forum timing out/loading REALLY slow for anyone else?
Not on my end.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 25, 2014, 12:12:50 am
PM him a warning, to make sure he sees it. If his next post is even slightly trollish then he should be banned for like a month.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 25, 2014, 12:20:38 am
lol, well he only comes around once a year or so.  I don't think threat of a month ban is going to scare him off.  How about when he DOES post again, the first post he's caught trolling, 1 year ban.  No warning, no discussion. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 25, 2014, 12:27:45 am
im down w/ that
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 25, 2014, 12:29:17 am
warnings wont phase him, its someone whose only replies are insults and whose only dialogue are attempts to bait others , the kind of attempts that would just catch trini at that.   Nor only would he not care as the next time he is around he just starts doing it again and you warn him again and he vanishes again thinking he fooled everyone into thinking hes got aspergers or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 25, 2014, 12:52:17 am
Warn him now, so that when he comes back a year later we can point to it and ban him for a year or whatever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 25, 2014, 12:59:28 am
Yeah, he should still get warned 1st. He's not posting porn or shock images or anything. Next troll post can be a longer ban than our 3 day usual since he returns so rarely anyway. If he gets banned put a note in the ban notes about it. Note that if he comes back later doing the same he just gets permabanned so it doesn't happen every year or so.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 25, 2014, 01:10:57 am
you are ignoring it happening last time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 25, 2014, 01:11:28 am
I swear I'll never understand why you like giving people chances when they're obviously uninterested/uncapable of taking advantage of them. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 25, 2014, 01:15:57 am
its someone that has never even answered anything other than to try to bait others, I dont see whats the obsession with letting gimmick posters roam about like that, even Big sally at least replied and I still had to push things around to get anything done about him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 25, 2014, 01:24:07 am
I'm not up in arms against what any of you guys are saying :P

What I'm suggesting isn't much different from what you guys are wanting. The only difference is 1 post. One more troll post and he gets banned just like you want. It's just a courtesy that I feel we should always extend before a banning. I really hate people being banned.

But, I'm really not strong on this with this user. So feel free to go straight to ban. It's not like the user has ever actually contributed anything worthwhile here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 25, 2014, 01:53:06 am
im overriding you all.

he is now banned for a year after he come back, saw the discussion and went right back at pretending to be a retard and trying to mock what we said about his posts mocking death by saying he wanted the crimea thread done with.

Keep arguing about how you need gimmick accounts pretending to be retarded people if you want.

Went with a year. If you want, argue on duration. I dont care.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 25, 2014, 01:56:29 am
No objections here. The last few posts are proof enough that he's here to troll.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 25, 2014, 02:32:14 am
Back on the Trinitronity thing, I've had a few people say that the mocking of him got really out of hand and downright trollish, given the circumstances. I myself noticed a lot of baiting. Here are a few examples.

Spoiler: Wall of quotes (click to see content)

Keep in mind that these are all relatively recent examples from the past few days.

I myself also believe his mockery got a little bit out of hand, but I'm clueless as to what we should do at all. Discuss it, toss ideas around, whatever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 25, 2014, 02:51:25 am
Do nothing. He kept pressing it, all those people are guys who are just responding to him being an idiot in the first place. [e] wasnt baiting, he was testing whether or not Trin could do things on his own. Shin Dio and Titiln are dicks to him but all theyre doing is responding to him continually vying for attention. If anything they were baited.

At most they should just get a slap on the wrist for continuing to feed him. Then again a lot of the mods did so as well, me included.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 25, 2014, 02:57:14 am
Eh, I still felt it needed discussion. Whatever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 25, 2014, 03:01:05 am
You feel it needs discussion but put forth no real opinion or course of action :/ Don't just dump some quotes and be like "baiting, discuss for me plz" try to formulate a position and we'll do the same in kind lol
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 25, 2014, 03:09:46 am
Trinitronity really left himself open there. He handled the situation so badly I don't think he deserved anything but the savage mockery he received.

Speaking of Trinitronity, I think I might have a way to deal with him. Remember post limitations? We haven't done one of those in a while. Trini would learn more about posting quality if he couldn't post more than, say, thrice a day than by spending prolonged periods without posting. That or he would become less notorious. Worth a shot either way. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on March 25, 2014, 03:45:42 am
limitation is the best action but thats not an option right now
the baiting part mentioned doesnt even register to me cause his denseness as to how conversation works bleeds through any thread and ends up derailing it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 25, 2014, 09:06:52 am
hey i still need you all to decide on how long jape needs to be banned over, if not im going to go with my initial decision of a week.

Also I dont think banning trinityman is going to fix him in any way
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 25, 2014, 01:08:20 pm
A week? You said he was banned for a year.

My ony complaint is that an earthtly year (365.242 days) is too short. A saturnian year sounds more like it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 25, 2014, 01:32:46 pm
If he only ever shows up once a year to make an ass out of himself anyway, just go ahead give him the full year ban.  I sincerely doubt it'll matter much to him either way.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 25, 2014, 02:36:23 pm
Yeah, what he said ^,

As far as the food for thought thread,  I don't think asking why that thread was needed was drawing attention and derailing (only my opinion)  Others do it all the time.  And in fact it was a troll thread that was reported quite a while before it was "derailed".  And I thought a lot of the baiting in that thread was uncalled for, but I see the same (and other) people get by with it all over the forum and no it doesnt bother me enough to bring it up and hand out warnings and whatever.    Maybe Trin should be told if he thinks there is a problem with a thread to use the report feature instead of derailing?

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 25, 2014, 03:09:21 pm
I used a year because it was the number you guys threw around, i stand by banning for a week then doubling everytime needed, he is offensive towards people and pretend to be retarded for the epic lulz its not like he shot someone.


There are plenty of users with mental issues of some variety and most dont let themselves become an issue because either they either realize they could be nuisances if htey press on or they become nuisances routinely falling on the same compulsive behaviours ( hjk, a few others , etc ) .
That's not really okay.
I havent been dealing with trinitrobilly at all so I dont feel like i should be saying anything about how hes not really that annoying or whatevers, its obvious he has been annoying people if he had to be asked to stop posting on a wip thread after repeatedly be asked to stop going off topic.

My advice for him is to do the one thing most people that have those issues dont do. To try to speak to us as if we were phisical people in their presence, thus deciding "Would I be able to say this to a person without annoying them, would it really be fitting for this situation where everyone is arguing fish to talk about how trains are superior to fish." etc.    Its really fucking hard to suggest on ways to improve social behaviour without coming across as preachy, but just relax and stop taking things too seriously . Some people get unreasonably mad and angry at the simplest of things, those people are not worth wasting time on. 

Relax and try to limit the way you post, think, will I really add to something on this conversation? before going at it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 25, 2014, 03:15:12 pm
just reposting for the sake of it since i dont think many people read it (being on the random topic)

i hope nobody thinks having autism is a free pass to acting like a fool on an internet forum. theres some true equality in the fact everyone here is equal before the rules, which dont allow for massive thread derailing (or at least they should). autism is a social disorder, if you feel you cant function properly among anonymous internet users due to lack of social ability, its better to just not post at all. dont make huge topic derails complaining about victimization. i agree autism is a problem, but it is not our job to sit down with people and help them work through it. that is something you must seek irl. also there are plenty of communities and support groups for autistic people on the web.

i think whats important here is if you dont want you autism to define you, you dont have to let it. plenty of respected members of the community and communities all over openly admit to having autism but their reputation is dictated by their actions and contributions. autism doesnt make you a terrible person at all. its how you choose to handle it that causes the ridicule imo.

basically if youre using your disorder as an excuse to disrupt conversations, then its time you seek help elsewhere.

id like to give a shoutout to sire hyogo for admitting and trying to illustrate this point to trinitronity. good posts +1
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 25, 2014, 03:59:27 pm
Exactly.

Jermboy kept spamming the board copy pasting the same text over and over again.
By the time he was posting videos of himself stuttering and shaking and babbling sentences it was obvious he had serious issues, he still got a fair share just like everyone else.  We only had to remove him when he showed he wasnt able to deal with others.


Having any issues is okay.  Its not okay to let them disturb others constantly,and its not excusable to have them make you shitpost or attempt to derail threads. This is not a place where you dump your friends with issues because its hard to deal with them
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 25, 2014, 06:02:49 pm
Keep it a year since he only comes around once a year anyway.

About Trin... yeah he needs something to limit the amount of posts he makes. I'll try and ask Valodim, but I'm not sure how good that'll work.

Otherwise we really don't have a lot of options if he can't post better. We either continue to give him short bans which would become pretty irritating, or we'd have to give him the usual ban increment increase but we don't really want to do that either.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on March 25, 2014, 06:43:23 pm
I used a year because it was the number you guys threw around, i stand by banning for a week then doubling everytime needed, he is offensive towards people and pretend to be retarded for the epic lulz its not like he shot someone.

Yeah but he's a troll and so of course he would be back in a week to do the same thing, then in 2 weeks, etc.  So a year is good. 

 When MY friend came here to troll, you banned AND deleted him after his first post! (<---  ok, so you thought he may be a bot, but STILL!!)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 27, 2014, 07:22:18 pm
We can limit users posts now. It's an admin only feature. Iced, you can find it at the bottom of profiles.
Valodim said:
it should work but it's new code so may not work 100% :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 28, 2014, 11:53:57 am
I see nothing.

     Posted: March 28, 2014, 12:06:18 pm
also you need to tell trini if his posts are limited or not ( and if they are by how much )
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 28, 2014, 02:32:09 pm
Modify Profile > Account settings near the bottom. I have not set a limit for Trin yet. What'd be a good limit?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 28, 2014, 02:36:51 pm
testing.
Sup jnp hows the cats?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 28, 2014, 02:43:32 pm
Quote
The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
Sorry, you are limited to 4 posts in a 24 hour period. If you are unsure why this happened, ask a moderator or admin.

Looks like it's retro active for the 24 hour block's posts. I couldn't post at all =p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 28, 2014, 03:59:34 pm
Quote
Heya. Your post limit is 20 posts a day. If a mod doesn't have to get onto you again you can ask for it to be reviewed in a month. I'd stress to ask because we have nothing to remind us that we set this for you so we might forget. If you derail again you'll be reduced to 10 posts per day.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 29, 2014, 02:43:38 am
What the fuck!? Twenty post per day; how's that supposed to be a limitation?

I was thinking of something in the 3-6 range when I suggested limiting his posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on March 29, 2014, 02:47:18 am
Normal people average around 2-6 posts a day. Limiting someone to 20 posts is laughable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 29, 2014, 02:48:32 am
I don't think he was making 20 posts per day before he was banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 29, 2014, 04:10:03 am
That was Iced's number! I was suggesting 8-10! Which I guess would still be a bit much :P

Will drop it down to 6.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 30, 2014, 03:17:16 am
Isn't doreaitosmon's eternal cluelessness and akwardness getting on your nerves?

Great excuse to make the most out of our new mod, I'd say.

 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 30, 2014, 03:21:05 am
Not really. I've made a hobby out of ignoring his posts and not taking them seriously when they enter the limelight. Works wonders.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 30, 2014, 03:37:37 am
You might like scrolling down and skimming through (multiple) mocking quotes each time you see one of Doraemariby's post better than following the 'normal' flow of a thread, but I really don't :P

I had ignored him just fine 'till now, but he's posting in too many threads. Kinda hard not to get across a few post where he ask where is his asshole.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 30, 2014, 04:14:12 am
i dont think trinitronity should serve as a jumping point to censor any person with bad opinions
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 30, 2014, 04:39:49 am
I'm not entirely convinced we needed to use it on Trinitronity after he came back (instead I think would've been better as an alternative to a second ban); I really think using it on Dorae would be excessive, as shitty as his posts usually are.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 31, 2014, 03:19:49 am
Had to warn Xhominid to chill out.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1936856
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 14, 2014, 07:09:06 am
Cursed Helliori (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.summary;u=82456) after telling him twice via PM (and also once via his sig) to stop using a huge avatar + sig. I have no idea how long this should last.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 14, 2014, 07:27:18 am
Banned this guy. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/elregresodelostroles1-84017) Registered 20 minutes ago and promptly began to post random letters and numbers in random topics. Right now it's set to a permaban because this is probably some banned dude trying to get revenge or spam or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 14, 2014, 11:16:04 am
his contact info reads "the return of the trolls fag iced"  in spanish


Mind, that doesnt mean he isnt a mature person who aims to do good to the community.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 14, 2014, 05:31:37 pm
hell iori being weirdly homophobic on the spanish thread, posting spoilers with cocks ( you cant post cocks and other sexual imagery but they were not marked as nwsf even )  and then accusing people of being we are dumb fucks spamming this site for ten yearss.

banned him for 4 days, bringing it to the table seems like a first case scenario.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 14, 2014, 05:46:33 pm
I just removed the "spoiler" images from the report section.  First time he's done this? 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 14, 2014, 05:49:37 pm
Removed the image from the post too. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 14, 2014, 08:12:41 pm
Think he should've been warned first (not that I would expect his behavior to change, but I just don't see his case being so bad as to necessitate a ban wothout a warning)

4 days seems fine. I don't expect his return to be sunshine and flowers, so we should Be prepared and all that jazz.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 14, 2014, 08:28:00 pm
You don't get warned for posting dicks and simultaneously spewing random hate speech for no legitimate purpose. You have to be kidding. You super leftist hippie liberal.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 14, 2014, 08:32:04 pm
CONTEXT:

Talking about peni (in red font, bold and all caps) is a running joke in the Spanish Thread.

Helliori is an obnoxious new kid who likes to steer the thread in his direction, mostly with tl;dr juvenile shit (think of him as a watered down ohsky) yours truly almost always skims.

He clearly has no love for peni, so he posted a real dick just because Bastard Wolf mentioned he missed the 'good ole days', like some sort of joke (If you like dicks so much have one!).

And then he acted like a self righteous retard, claiming dumb shit like "you shouldn't open (*unmarked*) spoilers if you're not willing to bla bla bla" and "I'll stop posting dicks when all of you stop posting dumb shit like omg or XD".

He really deserved a time out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 14, 2014, 08:49:56 pm
You guys are ignoring his worst offense: he totally ignored my PM's about his avatar and sig!!! >:[

You don't get warned for posting dicks and simultaneously spewing random hate speech for no legitimate purpose. You have to be kidding. You super leftist hippie liberal.
We agreed to this system of warning people, banning them for 3 days, then discussing length, all that stuff way back when. This specific case did not require anything different. We should not ban people without giving them a warning unless the situation warrants it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 14, 2014, 09:13:52 pm
So posting dicks is not a warranted situation? Okay.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 14, 2014, 09:23:13 pm
Unless he's posting multiple ones, no. He posted one and spent the rest of the thread trying to justify his posting it without marking it as NSFW, along with some good old-fashioned homophobia. Nothing that is a serious enough threat to the forum.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 14, 2014, 09:26:36 pm
So what's an example of a warranting situation?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 14, 2014, 09:29:11 pm
Most recent I can think of were these guys spamming porn all over the place. Lots of fun cleaning that up.

And it was gross straight porn, fuck those assholes.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 14, 2014, 09:33:47 pm
I'm with the posting peni and vags does not require a verbal warning group.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 14, 2014, 09:37:21 pm
Most recent I can think of were these guys spamming porn all over the place. Lots of fun cleaning that up.
Dicks or porn, for purposes of spam or just to be funny or witty, should always be banned for an amount of time. Regardless of if it's a first offense or not, it's super mega common sense and nobody should feel comfortable doing it. =p

And it was gross straight porn, fuck those assholes.
I'm tired of you prosecuting straight people. First you want to get married like us, and now you are dissing our porn. I feel that you are hurting my pussy-ass feelings and you should step down as a moderator.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 14, 2014, 09:40:25 pm
Well, guess I'm out voted then.

I'm tired of you prosecuting straight people. First you want to get married like us, and now you are dissing our porn. I feel that you are hurting my pussy-ass feelings and you should step down as a moderator.
I will not rest until the forum is renamed MuGAY Fighters Guild!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 15, 2014, 12:07:12 am
There are legal issues with allowing pornographic images to be posted (and remain posted) considering the age restriction for membership here.  So in this case that should be an automatic 3 day ban for the first offense and permaban if he does it again. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 15, 2014, 01:08:24 am
Jmorphman being lenient towards contributors to his porn folder. So biased.

Porn bans should handed on a case by case basis, imo. If the poster is a newcomer/first time offender, the image he posts isn't particulary shocking, and apologizes afterwards, he shouldn't be banned.

Unapologetic little pricks get the axe.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on April 15, 2014, 01:38:20 am
That sounds like the fairest way to do it.  No need to bring the hammer down if they legitimately didn't know any better.

This guy, however, clearly seemed to want to start shit.  A couple days to cool off from that seems reasonable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on April 15, 2014, 01:45:00 am
I've no objections as to how this was handled. I'm always late to the fun.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on April 19, 2014, 06:15:57 pm
I've no objections as to how this was handled. I'm always late to the fun.

As am I. My schedule has been very busy as of late, so apologies for my lack of presence. :(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 19, 2014, 08:03:41 pm
Don't worry, we handled the real important stuff in the other secret staff board that's only view-able by long-term staff members.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on April 19, 2014, 08:48:06 pm
Don't worry, we handled the real important stuff in the other secret staff board that's only view-able by long-term staff members.

:qq:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on April 20, 2014, 06:55:29 am
Saohc pretty much started a weird storm or something (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1948189) that went on for quite a few pages and is going with the "hurr durr I trolled you guys" card. Imo this is grounds for a few days time out or something like that. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on April 20, 2014, 06:59:37 am
So Saohc/Luigifan is pulling the old "IM REALLY FUCKED UP AND HAVE NO FRIENDS. I WANT TO KILL MYSELF. WHATS WRONG WITH ME. HELP ME FORUM." shit in which he promptly ignores everything to continue victimizing himself. Now hes pulling the "hehehehe i trolled you, everything i did was for reactions." bullshit. Considering hes derailed threads multiple times to do this a la trinitronity this is basically an admission of guilt for intentionally making threads be about his (fake) problems. I suggest action be taken.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 20, 2014, 07:09:12 am
Temporary ban or post limitation?

Btw Jmorphman/MissB I know you guys are going to say something like "we shouldn't ban him without a prior warning"/"derailing the random thread isn't a ban worthy offense":

1) He's a formerly perma banned user.
2) He did the same thing in QOTD.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on April 20, 2014, 07:11:32 am
well post limitation if the warn before ban clause is strict but the guy said he didnt care if he gets banned cause he wants to work on watching anime, so why not. either way both work as i dont have to read his posts as much
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on April 20, 2014, 07:28:15 am
And now he's just going on like nothing happened. Temptation to ban him rising.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 20, 2014, 09:23:35 am
everytime someone does something that makes them look stupid they tend to post a lot after to reaffirm the whole "Durrr im nto reading any post that replies about what i did" . the whole "I was pretending to be retarded" thing should be  discouraged as most as possible. im in the kick him out for a week or two side.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 20, 2014, 09:28:13 am
Btw Jmorphman/MissB I know you guys are going to say something like "we shouldn't ban him without a prior warning"/"derailing the random thread isn't a ban worthy offense":
I wasn't gonna say that! >:[

He's doing the same shit that got him banned, and knowingly. I have far less sympathy for the situation. Nevertheless a warning seems fair but so does a ban. I don't have a strong feeling towards either one.

Or wait, we have post limitations now... hmm. Maybe that's the best option. He'll still be able to work on his AI topic and what not, and have to avoid doing any woe is me crap if he wants to keep being able to do that. And if he still keeps it up then we could ban him. Or we could just ban him now, I can't muster up a compelling case for either option.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 20, 2014, 11:20:36 am
Wow, he blew up since I went to sleep. Reduced him to 3 posts per day. He was very blatant so he's borderline banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on April 20, 2014, 12:19:46 pm
I wouldn't even bother with the post limit and move straight into a week or two ban, myself.  That whole 'lol I troll u social experiment' gimick as an attempt to justify blatant attention whoring didn't fly when RobotMoneyHead was doing it, and Saohc was even still trying to play the 'poor pathetic me' card while he was doing it.  The kid needs a serious time-out, as much for his own benefit as the forum's.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on April 20, 2014, 03:53:43 pm
Btw Jmorphman/MissB I know you guys are going to say something like "we shouldn't ban him without a prior warning"/"derailing the random thread isn't a ban worthy offense":
I wasn't gonna say that! >:[

I wasn't either  >:[

I really don't have a problem with a time out of a few days in most cases where people KNOW better and have been banned before. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on April 20, 2014, 04:47:00 pm
judging from his latest posts (boy what a good way to spend time on) a ban is reasonable. and deserved.

use this time to go outside, kid
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 20, 2014, 11:35:49 pm
Looks like most people want him gone for a few days, why not ban him a couple days or a week or something and then leave on the limiter?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on April 20, 2014, 11:46:53 pm
A few days sounds reasonable, especially with the limiter in place. Longer might be excessive with the limiter as well? idk
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on April 21, 2014, 12:53:56 am
Go for a week, followed by the limiter IMO
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 21, 2014, 01:12:05 am
Alright. Banned for 7 days. Keeping the restriction on. Since he's been banned before he gets more than 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 23, 2014, 10:40:30 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/m-u-g-e-n-discussion-re-m-u-g-e-n-screenshots-v2-159084.new.html#new

posted a screenshot of a mugen fight with a stage that was pretty much a huge gaping vagina.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on April 29, 2014, 02:52:37 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1953007

I'm tempted to give Xhominid a slap on the wrist for continuing to derail this thread in spite of being given multiple mod warnings.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 29, 2014, 02:56:08 am
I'm already in the process of doing so. He ignored 3 messages by mods to stop it. 3 days seems fair.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on April 29, 2014, 02:56:49 am
Good. I would have done it eventually.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 29, 2014, 05:22:52 pm
Good call with Xhominid.


Speaking of my limitation, I just noticed, what day it is today.
Should I ask JnP at the end of the day, or should I maybe wait until the end of this month instead?

I'm removing the post limit now. But if you regress back to disrupting often I'll have to re implement it. The next time there won't be an expiration date. So take note to self moderate well.
Noting this here
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 02, 2014, 06:52:56 am
Guy keeps promoting his forum (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/international-re-spanish-only-espa%C3%B1ol-solamente-v2-159267.0.html); think it's worth warning him before resorting to a word filter though.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on May 02, 2014, 07:03:54 am
I say warn him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 02, 2014, 07:10:39 am
is that your final answer.......
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on May 02, 2014, 07:19:22 am
He doesn't seem to have been warned by a mod previously, so it's a fair course of action.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 02, 2014, 07:19:45 am
i was just fucking with you, of course he should get warned
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on May 02, 2014, 07:20:33 am
Uhh ok. .-.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on May 02, 2014, 09:05:16 pm
Warn him. People do promote their sites, like ZombieBrock, but on more of a subtle level. Blatantly shamelessly plugging your site for 40+ times (as Titiln suggested) is no bueno.

Warn him. Warn him good.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 02, 2014, 09:45:03 pm
Uhhhhhhh it's 4 times. Not 40.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 02, 2014, 10:06:14 pm
Quote
random spanish

*cringes*

Note that tokdiscos is an all around pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on May 02, 2014, 10:30:05 pm
Uhhhhhhh it's 4 times. Not 40.

LOL oops. I misread the number. My bad.

Quote
random spanish

*cringes*

Note that tokdiscos is an all around pain in the ass.

I'm actually brushing up on my Italian and I had the inkling to say no good in Spanish (Italian and Spanish are very similar, so why not??). I am also not aware of Tokdiscos being a pain. I'll see if I can keep my eye out for him.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 03, 2014, 02:53:32 pm
 Yamcha8  (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=84075) seems to have a second account  Goku6  (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=79618).  I'm not sure if he has very poor English skills or if it's something else.  How disruptive  are these confusing threads/posts?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 04, 2014, 05:05:52 am
The fact that he is bombarding users that attempt to assist him is the most concerning part.


I finally gave Chamat the no edit no delete membergroup

Quote
Hope you don't mind if I erase this post in the future, so you better quote it, I don't want to see this in my unread replies, that's me, that's why I erased my posts.

Chamat. You won't be able to remove any more of your posts. You've been warned to stop abusing your editing/deleting privileges several times. You no longer have those privileges.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 04, 2014, 06:58:55 am
That Yamcha guy was warned. He also harassses people via pms too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 05, 2014, 07:34:09 pm
Yamcha posted this
i read in another webpage that if i press CTRL + C i activate NotHitBy too ! but it doesn't work so shut up stupid !
after a bunch of people tried to help him. It doesn't seem like he took that warning to heart.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 05, 2014, 10:06:45 pm
So 3 days?  a Week?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on May 05, 2014, 10:28:38 pm
I say a week. Get the point across nicely.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 05, 2014, 10:38:11 pm
i am against banning at all because he didnt really do anything that disruptive in that thread he just seems like either a kid or really dumb
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 05, 2014, 10:42:42 pm
I think it depends on how severe of a warning he got. But even if he got a very severe warning saying that he'd get banned over this, it's all so minor as to not warrant anything more than 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 06, 2014, 01:19:22 am
I think a ban is premature as well. He should get at least one more verbal warning saying that if he continues he may get banned. Do we think any sort of limitations may prevent us from having to outright ban him if he keeps it up? Including but not limited to PM removal.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 06, 2014, 02:12:12 am
I usually give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not entirely convinced this is just a poor communication issue.  Does anyone speak Italian well enough to PM this guy?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 06, 2014, 01:56:01 pm
I think a ban is premature as well. He should get at least one more verbal warning saying that if he continues he may get banned. Do we think any sort of limitations may prevent us from having to outright ban him if he keeps it up? Including but not limited to PM removal.

Post limit and no PM?  I don't think a short ban will stop him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on May 06, 2014, 05:11:31 pm
voting ban since it doesnt look like he'll understand what limiting posts is suppose to do
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on May 06, 2014, 06:25:46 pm
I say go with a 3 day ban. Subsequent bans should include an additional day if he should slip up again. That seems fair to me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 06, 2014, 07:24:27 pm
He doesn't have to understand what it does. He just has to post less. Basically, if he was doing the same thing he's already doing but extremely limited and with no PM support he wouldn't be near as bothersome.

The banning method will not teach him either. He'll get banned again for a longer period when he returns or he just won't return. Since he can't/won't understand things it's more likely that we're simply removing him from the forums all together.

Where as if we limit his posts he could at least still stick around and enjoy the forum. Maybe even long enough to grow up.

Anyway, due to the larger amounts of opinions he should be banned for 3 days we'll start with this punishment. We can continue to discuss his fate upon return, or just wait till then for if/when he returns acting the same way.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 06, 2014, 07:45:54 pm
imo we are too liberal with banning if we are banning for just being stupid vs. actually disruptive
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 06, 2014, 07:50:02 pm
Are you sure he will understand why he's got a 3 day timeout?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 06, 2014, 07:55:35 pm
I'm sure he won't understand it. That's his thing. That's why I'm not for the ban as a means to help him. I don't like banning for "stupidity" either. But that's what seemed to be being pushed. However a 3 day ban isn't too epic. We can now discuss what to do after he returns. I'm for limiting his posts to like 2 or 3 a day and removing his PM privileges.

He's not going to learn why any of this is happening. So our options are to let him continue to be a burden to users, remove him completely, or place him in a position that forces him to be a much smaller burden but still able to make use of the forum in a more limited capacity.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 08, 2014, 05:39:36 pm
Our boy Trinitronity (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/-wtf-trinitronity-76806) just snapped. Reduced post limit to 3 a day. Then he started sending me and Titiln messages cussing us out and wishing death upon us. So he is banned for 7 days. And I went ahead and gave him Cursed status because he  changed his profile to insult Titiln. So he can no longer edit his profile either.

If/when he comes back just keep adding the banning extensions if he continues the same routine.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 08, 2014, 05:47:18 pm
this is persecution, get off his back mannnnn
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 08, 2014, 06:08:31 pm
iced lol, dont white-knight someone whos being disruptive as fuck when he gets called out on his own ineptitude
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 08, 2014, 06:12:23 pm
You guys would ban pots if you could!

#truthbringing #brought #morals #beingexample
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on May 08, 2014, 06:14:39 pm
I really don't know what he thought he was going to accomplish by blaming everyone else for his behavior.  All it really did was trap him in a Morton's Fork of his own making.  If he really was doing it on purpose just to piss off everyone who was telling him to stop, then that's a spamming issue and he'd probably need to be banned for that anyway.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on May 08, 2014, 09:17:32 pm
I find it hilarious when people get so mad that they start irrationally wishing bad upon other people.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 08, 2014, 09:37:01 pm
wait jnp can you publish the pms he sent to you lmao
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 08, 2014, 09:46:53 pm
I feel it might be in bad taste to do so as an admin since the only thing it'll accomplish is giving more fuel to laugh at him with. If he'd kept his frustrations directed at me and not on a normal user things could have worked out a bit better for him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 08, 2014, 10:26:59 pm
And here I thought his last meltdown was his all time lowest.

Throwing a tantrum because people told him to use google...Trinitronity never ceases to dissapoint me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 08, 2014, 10:32:59 pm
This is all my fault. I'm responsible for all of this. I shouldn't have made that reference. I will never make one again, this I swear. And if I should fail, I will consign myself to a horrid realm, a zone of sorts, full of danger.

A Danger Zone, if you will. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRU3I_o1vLc)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 12, 2014, 01:38:14 am
That guy is still promoting.
he is still promoting his dogshit forum

ps no lo conosco, desafortunadamente. hablando de grandes autores, he posteado en mi foro la mayoria de los stages de motvn http://lacalle.foroactivo.mx/t73-motvn-stages-varios-aportes#222
Did he get a warning? I couldn't find one from a mod, but maybe I missed it? If he was warned it's time to implement a word filter because this is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 12, 2014, 01:41:45 am
And what about this guy?

Again.

Hey guys, my English not very good, and since I'm using google translator. I'm leaving a very good character Obito. (not I found on forum)
Channel Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/user/GamesSpacex
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Mugengames
Author - LegendTTA
[youtube]EOPia6t_Lws[/youtube]
Channel Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/user/GamesSpacex
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Mugengames
Download: http://www.4shared.com/rar/itxaglAQba/War_Hinata.html? or http://www.legendtta.host22.com/chars/WarHinata.rar

Quote
You can find it here:
http://www.legendtta.host22.com/

Facebook Page:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/LegendTTA/653313704714701


Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 12, 2014, 01:54:15 am
I know a few people have plugged some unrelated stuff in their release topics before, but since it was their own topic it always seemed fine. But this is a found release, it doesn't seem right. I think it's fair to warn him to cut it out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 13, 2014, 04:22:33 am
Warned that Raiat guy but left the links up, removing links to his stuff.

also can I get a confirmation that TokDiscos got a warning last time?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 13, 2014, 04:24:52 am
I don't remember if he got one either.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on May 13, 2014, 04:25:21 am
Not to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 13, 2014, 04:28:15 am
Alright then, someone who speaks Spanish should go warn him, cause I ain't putting this shit through Google Translate! :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 16, 2014, 07:42:12 pm
I have only one wish and one wish alone:
PERMABAN TITILN ALREADY!
He is worser than any of the MFG spammers put together, because he is the SOURCE of all those spammers.
If he is gone, then half of the spammers wont be spammers anymore. Including me (since some idiots think I'm a spammer for no reasons).
This is blatant disruptive behavior and it obviously worked because theres 3 pages of anger resulting from it. I suggest another ban
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 16, 2014, 09:38:00 pm
Yeah. I've been at work. Just that message wouldn't be bad but the fact he's messaging everyone is. Especially since he sent me that message talking about my sex life with Titiln. I'm still at work but go ahead and ban him. 1-3 months
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 16, 2014, 10:19:24 pm
Three  steep.  actually so does a month.  How about 2 weeks?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 16, 2014, 10:44:52 pm
This is his third ban. He came straight back from a ban doing exactly the same stuff he was banned for and mass pm ing people.

When he was mad I could overlook what he was calling people and the PMs.
But he's had 7 days and deliberately came back doing the same stuff. That's more severe than the initial reason he was banned. Up till now I considered him simply without forum etiquette. But these return actions were much more premeditated.

That is why I suggested potential 3 months. I almost think he might need 6 months or more. My theory is that he was quite young when he registered and is now hitting his teenage years.

Edit: one month is the typical follow up after the 2nd ban anyway.
3days > 1 week > 1 month > 6 months > 1 year, etc though there is always discussion potential in these lengths.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on May 16, 2014, 10:50:12 pm
I agree with JNP.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 17, 2014, 12:39:03 am
I have banned him for 1 month. Should that be the final time limit? I'm leaning toward 3 months due to they way he came back with the massive PM spree and PMing me this
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I think we're past the point where this will lead to you being made fun of by posting it. This is to add transparency to the why this happened. I'm not offended by it. It's just not the best way to come back after a ban and proves the ban didn't give you time to cool off.

Any other thoughts on the ban length? Keep it 1 month? Make it 3?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on May 17, 2014, 12:59:10 am
I say go with three.  He is clearly refusing to learn from his mistakes and insists that it's the rest of the entire world that's forcing him to act like a spoiled toddler, lashing out at everything he doesn't want to understand.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on May 17, 2014, 12:59:55 am
Three months. He deserves it at this point.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 17, 2014, 01:59:30 am
3 months it is.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 30, 2014, 01:50:40 am
Banned http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=84028
a user PMed me saying he's a banned user named metroker and is causing a fuss in the Spanish thread. Will elaborate more when I get home.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 30, 2014, 02:05:05 am
metroker was a user that tried to spread infected files to try to hack emails in spriter academy.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/your-releases-older-mugen-krizalid-kofm-lvl2-135887.msg1463121.html#msg1463121

I remember him posting a bunch of times nonsensical stuff like "Metroker wins!" and "I GREAT LORD METROKER" on the fb page. and a few people complaining about him repeatedly trying to impersonate other users.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 30, 2014, 01:33:12 pm
Asked in thread if noside was involved since he apparently was going on about metroker, defending him.
Aldo says he doesnt think so, rednavi didnt answer me in thread so i sent him a pm asking the same, will inform when i get a reply about what is going on.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 30, 2014, 05:45:13 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/p3XX1T7.png)
well
well
well.


Look what we have here.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 30, 2014, 05:50:53 pm
i speak english, can you please sum up whats going on
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 30, 2014, 05:57:16 pm
 "
 metroker: you call me to the guild?
noside: yeah, dude, we are having a lot of fun lol
noside: i did it on purpose
metroker: lol rednavi is crying  , got them to ban me
noside: yeah, Iced asked if i was related, lol"

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 30, 2014, 06:59:38 pm
So why did he think it would be a good idea to bring this user to Guild with his known track record with the intent to troll and "lol" at the users here?

To me the intent was to cause drama. To then go off and laugh about it somewhere like that deserves a pretty harsh punishment. Considering what Metroker had done to other people's accounts/emails.

I would even say it's worth a perma ban to knowingly do such with the knowledge you are bringing someone in with the intent to cause alarm from the userbase due to his past transgressions.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 30, 2014, 07:07:17 pm
Quote
Turns out I'm the bad guy? and Metroker thing on youtube is bad? to heck, the fact that I like his characters has nothing to do with the messthat are here, I deserve one ban, bad bad bad.

mugenguild.com/forum/topics/spanish-only-español-solamente-v2-118073.new.html#new

told him to reply in feedback if he wanted to justify himself.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 30, 2014, 09:35:20 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1968093

I would like some opinions on the current situation with Noside.

I'm still not 100% sure if he brought Metroker here with the intent to cause issues. Though I feel as though he did. However his actions after the fact are still pretty crappy.

Should there be a ban or not? And how long?

My vote is to ban him for about 6 months because I think he did do all this on purpose. And if I could be 100% sure he did I'd say perma ban him.

Where do you guys stand?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on May 30, 2014, 09:50:37 pm
Where did the screen shot of the "conversation" come from?  Was it public where anyone can read it?

Did the banned evildoer attempt to cause harm, etc while here this time?

Can we get some native Spanish speakers to sum up what happened in the Spanish thread?  I'm really leery of claiming "intent" when there is a language barrier.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 30, 2014, 10:11:55 pm
With the latest translation in full form I'm still not sure what to make of it. I guess it looks less like it was the original intent. Both of them acted like shit heads by "loling" about it in public. Though it's not like it's against the rules to make fun of others off site after something like this happens. Because that crap happens a lot.

I guess the new translation neutralized me a bit more.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on May 30, 2014, 10:50:08 pm
So wait a second... You're banning Noside or both of them?? I've been away for a while and I gotta catch up on recent drama!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 30, 2014, 11:20:17 pm
Only Metroker was banned. I don't think Noside will be, but I guess it could still change if any more concrete of malicious intent turns up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on May 31, 2014, 01:07:04 am
Gotchya. Alright.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 31, 2014, 06:17:37 am
i am against a ban on noside
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on May 31, 2014, 06:41:58 pm
i am against a ban on noside

I'm with U on this one. While I don't know the entire situation (I quickly read above posts/what Iced touched upon), I've never known Noside to do anything malicious or instigating behavior wise. But that's just me. Do what you feel must be done. :mmhmm:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 07, 2014, 01:15:35 am
should be obvious i banned navana alt, but i banned navana alt.

edit: Foot goes in mouth, a stalker just pointed out the email has an actual facebook account, she might have looked like navana but wasnt navana or at least reasonable doubt
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 07, 2014, 08:26:36 am
We have another asshole claiming he's conducting a social experiment. Ban for 3 days? (It'd be kinda unfair to ban luiginumbers for that and not him)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 07, 2014, 08:38:00 am
I'm indifferent. Just let him fade away like he so desperately wants to.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 07, 2014, 08:41:07 am
I'm also somewhat hesitant on banning him. If he had an established history of being a drama queen like Luigi, then I would feel more strongly about it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on June 07, 2014, 12:42:01 pm
Eh.  It doesn't really seem like he's actually trying to stir anything up.  If anything I think he's just trying to save face after his initial "Please Pity Me and Give Me Attention" thread didn't get the reaction he wanted.  We probably don't need to take any action on this one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on June 07, 2014, 02:25:51 pm
^  I agree.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 10, 2014, 05:41:39 pm
So yeah turns out Regina was in fact Navana all along. JNP banned him.

This just goes to show you, never trust anyone, and shun all outsiders.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 13, 2014, 03:56:52 am
The guy from the hr edits keeps posting his things outside of edits, when ume talked to him to him he went on a rant about being threatened and abused by mods and how people are being racists to him.

When I answered in portuguese ( his language) he deleted the links in the thread saying it was our fault.  Ive removed the thread considering there was no reason for it to exist without links.

Has anyone else had issues with him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 13, 2014, 03:58:04 am
I think he's pulled similar nonsense in the past, but can't be bothered to drudge up links.

It might just be my awful memory talking, though.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on June 13, 2014, 03:59:58 am
pretty sure ive defended this guys works from unnecessary rude comments in the past. language barriers suck.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 13, 2014, 04:03:03 am
Pretty sure he is portuguese, and he couldnt understand my posts either, or at least reacted as if he couldnt.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2014, 04:03:38 am
Has anyone else had issues with him?
Yeah that's happened pretty much exactly like what just happened now, whenever I tried to talk to him. I thought he had stopped that, but I guess he just hasn't had to respond to anyone till now.

I seem to recall getting either you or GOH to reply to him in Portuguese, to no avail.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 13, 2014, 04:17:07 am
I pm'ed that Helder guy a long time ago because he kept doing something dumb (not really sure about all the details, but it was related to his edits). He went full retard shortly afterwards and spammed our report board.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on June 13, 2014, 04:20:38 am
i like how he apologizes to iced and not me. that hurts man
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2014, 04:28:46 am
Well, you're not Portuguese, and therefore don't deserve an apology.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 03, 2014, 07:02:41 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/fuckyeah-84425

spammer
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 03, 2014, 08:48:54 am
What... exactly is his story? Is this one of those weird YouTube things?

his posting from two days ago was fine, why'd he go nuts. So weird!

EDIT: well, relatively, at least. I dunno. This whole thing seems weird. I need to know more about the situation; who exactly is this guy?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 03, 2014, 08:59:13 am
A friend of mine said it's weegeeisgoingtokillm. Something about making hate propaganda with his characters? I'm not too sure.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 03, 2014, 11:42:53 am
Also, Navana alt (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=84440)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 03, 2014, 05:45:01 pm
In all honesty, when I read the first post of that CVS thread (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/help-creating-cvs-roster-160606.0.html), I knew it was Navana without having to even look. It's a shame when one can't even hide their posting style.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 03, 2014, 05:49:44 pm
the user with the email about slapping their asses and the username about taking virginities is the same user that not even a month ago was posing as a girl trying to get boys to discuss blowjobs and sex with him?!

Gasp, say it isnt so.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 03, 2014, 05:58:54 pm
idk is there anything more concrete than that? just making sure, i think its him too
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 03, 2014, 06:15:12 pm
similar hostname, both in the same ip range. very high probability unless its a relative. perhaps a brother
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 03, 2014, 06:59:43 pm
idk is there anything more concrete than that? just making sure, i think its him too

press track ip.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 03, 2014, 08:03:22 pm
similar hostname, both in the same ip range. very high probability unless its a relative. perhaps a brother
your avatar needs to cover up, its too revealing for our tender audience
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 03, 2014, 09:06:38 pm
It really would be if we still had Nevermind as admin. I'm not exaggerating he was that prudish about them. Good times
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 04, 2014, 03:33:57 am
Does that mean my next set of avatars is TOO SEXY FOR MUGEN GUILD?!?!?!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 04, 2014, 03:37:37 am
Do they cause impure thoughts?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 04, 2014, 03:39:09 am
The impurest of thoughts!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 04, 2014, 03:42:57 am
I don't know about the avatars, but Kid Cincinnati in your sig gets my motor runnin'
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 04, 2014, 03:55:54 am
Would it help or hurt if you knew he has a YouTube channel that reveiws frozen pizzas and wears orthopedic socks? (http://youtu.be/PilQpis6WsY)

Also I just found out the actor portaying him starred in that Twilight Zone episode with the stopwatch that stops time. It's pretty crazy!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 11, 2014, 07:52:52 am
Banned LM Maverik forever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 11, 2014, 07:54:24 am
...A bit quick to the draw. Could have discussed it first.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 11, 2014, 07:56:38 am
i get hes defending the guy but he refuses to even acknowledge my argument and instead resorts to. insulting me every post.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 11, 2014, 07:58:12 am
...A bit quick to the draw. Could have discussed it first.
Circumstances are a bit special with MAVERIK (he was permabanned before, came back under special terms and conditions) so he didn't really need a warning nor anything shorter than a permaban, since it's for the same thing.

I mean I guess a feel a little weird having him be immediately permabanned but that's basically what the condtions were so... I dunno!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 11, 2014, 07:58:51 am
I wasn't quick enough. Not waiting for him to reveal his coprophilia; and he's basically in the same boat as Navana in terms of chances to show improvement. He broke his agreement, he's banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 11, 2014, 08:01:28 am
I guess it's just I feel weird not even saying "I'm gonna ban Maverik" and then letting others chime in. I'm not against permabanning him, just saying others should have been able to weigh in.

R.I.P. Maverik.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 11, 2014, 08:09:01 am
I really wanted to see Maverik go all out before banning him (he was getting close; talking down, using double ellipsis, questioning Umezono's academical future)...er, just to be sure, of course.

Well, I guess that proves that second chances don't work.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 11, 2014, 08:25:29 am
Well if the agreement was he wasnt gonna blatantly attack people for disagreeing, he broke it Xan
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 11, 2014, 11:48:20 am
I feel all the months he behaved should have earned him at least 1 mod warning.
Well, what's everyone's opinion? Keep the ban or let it go?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 11, 2014, 12:07:59 pm
I agree. I mean sure he was getting unreasonably angry but I think he earnt at least the ability to get a slap in the wrist instead of instantly permabnned.

We should vote or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 11, 2014, 12:23:18 pm
Honestly, I'm with Rajaa on this one.  Maverik already had more than his fair share of chances, and he's blown all of them.  The deal was that we'd let him stay if he stopped attacking users over petty stuff, and he clearly couldn't hold up his end of the bargain.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 11, 2014, 12:39:45 pm
Where was he posting?

Edit to add: found it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 11, 2014, 02:03:46 pm
This was handled poorly in my opinion.  Yes he should have got some kind of warning and from the time stamps on the posts both in that thread and the posts in the staff only forum, several people on staff could have stepped in and given that warning.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 11, 2014, 03:23:03 pm
If you unban him this is only gonna happen again, he's kind of condescending and dickish to anyone who disagrees with him, and if you challenge his opinion all he does is insult and belittle you. Being the person involved in the argument tho I should probably abstain.

I feel all the months he behaved should have earned him at least 1 mod warning.
Well, what's everyone's opinion? Keep the ban or let it go?
If its a special agreement I dont get why he needs to get warnings. Wasnt Navana for sending a PM? There was no warning there lol
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 11, 2014, 03:23:59 pm
navana wasnt able to go a couple of days without it happening, he had been back for months and nothing major had really happened =|
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 11, 2014, 03:24:48 pm
I'm talking about "special agreement," what weight does an agreement have if theyre allowd to break it after some good behavior?

EDIT: To be honest tho, I was completely caught off guard by Rajaa banning Maverik, with absolutely no discussion. In the staff thread, all I had been doing was relaying the fact the guy was being overly hostile and repeatedly taking cheap shots at me for no reason other than the fact I was disagreeing him. If this is indicative of anything its indicative of the fact he probably hasnt changed. If he's still relapsing into being a dick, then hes still a dick. If it had come down to discussion I probably would have said banning him was for the better cause this doesnt seem new, he was briefly discussed at another point in time in the private staff thread where people voiced concerns on being overly rude and condescending. Again this "special agreement" is the linchpin for me, he shouldnt be making mistakes period if there was an explicit agreement that he be let back if he wont do what he used to do.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 11, 2014, 03:36:40 pm
The question should be if such a tight leash agreement should last a user's entire forum life
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 11, 2014, 03:43:41 pm
Personally I think if a person who has been permabanned in the past got in by getting on mod good graces, he shouldn't be allowed to lose those graces. Either way its moot cause it hasnt even been that long, its been a couple months.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 11, 2014, 04:27:48 pm
We don't owe him shit. The only thing he had earned posting like a normal user for months was the right to stick around another day.

It's painfully obvious Maverik hasn't changed. He did exactly the same shit that got him banned. C'mon, you're arguing against his ban completely out of 'principle', you can't possibly believe he'll improve. You can't be that naive.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 11, 2014, 04:52:32 pm
Fofai aka LM_ Maverick  (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/fofai-82071)contacted the staff. He's been using the alternate account now for 5 months without incident and is wishing to return back to Guild using his proper account so he may announce releases, etc. Some of you will know why he was banned. Those that do not, it is not very important now. We're moving ahead.

Due to the amount of time he has been absent, how long he's been incognito, and without incident the Moderation Staff has agreed to allow him back. Iced should be merging his accounts shortly. He is on a strict probation period. We expect him to be a "normal" user, however this is also a blanket warning for those that may wish to poke, harass, bully him or whatever. If the staff feels anyone is attempting to make him regress or anything of the sort there will be potential penalties. Maverick is encouraged to PM any mod he chooses if he feels harassed.

On that note, we welcome Maverick back to Guild and hope he goes far.

The probation period was never mentioned.  5 months without incident with an alternate account and 7 without incident tells me he HAS changed.  And the discussion in the staff section needs to be made public.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 11, 2014, 06:29:20 pm
Go ahead and move the posts from private to this thread. I would but on lunch and slow process with iPhone.

Yes I am discussing on principle alone. I don't have time to quote it but I did tell him he needs to calm down. Whether he did or didn't read that as me "flashing my badge" is kind of irrelevant. He knows he is on a tight leash. So he should have stayed on the side of caution.

I honestly don't have a strong opinion on this one due to that. Just reading the discussions to help me make up my own opinion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 11, 2014, 07:18:10 pm
if he was reminded then i have no further objections. i dont think him going out in an explosive way(whatever that means), or not is the issue here. he fucked up, got what was coming. too bad. given his situation "did he screw up" takes priority over "did he change", its far clearer than going on about behavior changes over time. we cant know, which is why the first mistake is taken as proof.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 11, 2014, 08:51:55 pm

Calm down man.

In other words

Everyday i look at the forums hoping to see new creations I'll like in the mugen community.

That's not really the same as what the original post seemed to discuss. And if it is it's hard to have a discussion over it and depending on the person's taste there is no way to release anything good.
Here it is. Right after the 1st post he made calling umezono an idiot. I need to see some more comments from people that think he should be unbanned. Over the day I've been leaning more toward no myself.

I also thought he'd been back longer than 5 months. I don't count the 7 before that because he was having to pretend not to be himself while he was using his alt.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 11, 2014, 09:02:53 pm
I think there should have been some discussion first, before he was banned. I'm leaning on permaban myself but a discussion beforehand wouldn't have hurt. It wasn't like he needed to be contained immediately or anything.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 11, 2014, 09:05:05 pm
I think there should have been some discussion first, before he was banned. I'm leaning on permaban myself but a discussion beforehand wouldn't have hurt. It wasn't like he needed to be contained immediately or anything.
This right here is how I feel on the situation.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 11, 2014, 09:05:17 pm
@MissB

He hasn't changed. Keeping the facade of a 'normal' user for 5,7 or 12 months wouldn't change the fact he behaved the same way last night as he did before his permaban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 11, 2014, 09:59:46 pm
Just so you don't think I'm all soft on crime, I banned B____________ for a day.  He was asking for it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 11, 2014, 10:06:54 pm
wow
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 11, 2014, 11:16:15 pm
no discussion or anything????? wtf missb........

just kidding youre my hero
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 12, 2014, 09:56:36 am
well i dont agree with banning mav over that, i think that being around for some months now without any major incident should have allowed him more leeway, but i see the majority thinks it was okay and always i defer to the majority
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 12, 2014, 10:39:09 am
I'd be right there with you had he no mod warning at all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 14, 2014, 12:11:16 am
That b guy is now trying to pass on the idea that he was just trolling.
his first ban was over so he made three more accounts

reactivated his ban to last a week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 14, 2014, 12:21:21 am
Ooops, I almost permaban his original account. 
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 15, 2014, 07:10:24 pm
I see the last thread merged with this cesspool was also yours.

Improve your posting habits and don't pull another stupid stunt for attention, or else you'll be banned and/or have your daily posts limited.

I want to reiterate this to the staff.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/toonar12x-83426

This guy is being pretty disruptive and spammy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 19, 2014, 03:45:47 am
Gave Zthunder (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/zthunder-38148) a time-out because he was getting out of hand. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/stop-fucking-ignoring-meeeeeeee-160970.0.html)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 19, 2014, 04:00:01 am
Yikes.  Another internet tough-guy with attention issues.  Just what we needed.  I'mma go ahead and shit thread that shit show, if it's all the same to y'all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 19, 2014, 04:00:39 am
Go for it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on July 19, 2014, 04:02:03 am
hey!!  I lost my great post because "this topic is off limits to you"

 :brood:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 19, 2014, 04:47:09 am
I haven't even finished the part of the thread where he was still able to post and already I can say that 3 days is far, far too short a ban.

FUCK EVERYONE BITCH ASSES. IM NOT NO FUCKING GHOST. I DON'T EXIST UNLESS IM TELLING SOME we are dumb fucks spamming this site for ten years ASS BITCH OFF HU? OH OK! HELLO IM MR. FUCKTHEWORLD! NICE TO MEET YOU RETARDS!
Why don't you snitch on your mom for being a slut while you're at it bitch!
Hey where's your admin title? Didn't meet the dick sucking quota for the year or something?

This dude has been banned twice before (can't remember/find what it was for) but as far as I can recall this is not new behavior for him. I think the 3 days first thing is great and should be followed as much as possible but this is just one of those cases where it shouldn't. He deserves a month or more.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 19, 2014, 04:48:57 am
The three days was just my knee-jerk reaction. Extended it to 30 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 19, 2014, 04:58:49 am
If unsure 3 days is a fine default so we can discuss.

I say this guy needs a perma ban (why is everyone looking at me funny?)
In the links posted in the thread alone he had a melt down 5 years ago then 3 years ago. He's been banned no telling how many times in his 6 years. Whatever age he is now he should be showing some signs of improvement. Not 6 years of whatever that is.
He also does not contribute back in any form.

I say cut him off for good.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 19, 2014, 05:00:31 am
I agree.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 19, 2014, 05:11:45 am
It's done. I need to get better at this deciding on ban length stuff.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 19, 2014, 05:17:22 am
No worries. The current system is built to give us time to discuss the ban length. This way we have easy default lengths to choose in the event we don't want to think a lot.

In the past someone would get banned and it was either up to the person banning or hope there could be a discussion. There were times nothing even happened because we spent too long not talking about anything.

In fact if strong support comes in from other mods to decrease it it's still not set in stone. Another benefit of this method since we all have different time zones.
Also please put a note in for why he was perma banned. Maybe a link to this thread.
This way if he contacts the staff 2 years from now or something it'll be easy to see the process and why.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 19, 2014, 08:07:26 am
He got banned before because he was intolerable and asked questions about how to get even with people over the Internet for hurting his feelings on another forum. He is a massive back-pedaller and an enormously horrible person who pretends to be a wrist cutting, self hating emo.

Perma-ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 21, 2014, 09:20:37 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1994523

i wish to ban this guy for 1-3 days, feel free to raise or lower or disagree that he should be banned at all. just remember he has done this again and again and ignores all warnings.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 21, 2014, 09:26:39 pm
He's ignored a multitude of warnings. A slap on the wrist is the next logical step as far as I see.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 21, 2014, 10:28:00 pm
i think a 3 day ban should get the message across
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 22, 2014, 12:43:35 am
Fair enough.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 22, 2014, 02:59:00 am
i dont mind but does he not get what hes doing wrong? at all? maybe a pm is needed here
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 22, 2014, 03:02:03 am
he doesnt understand a thing. I even tried to explain in his language, still doesnt get it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 22, 2014, 07:38:25 am
It seems like he thought it was changed enough to be a full release (but it still seems like an edit to me), so I dunno.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 22, 2014, 04:43:22 pm
Just a heads up it says a ban exists for his name. Do i just put a 2 next to it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 22, 2014, 04:47:51 pm
yes. it just means the log already has a ban for that name.

alternatively you can go to the ban list and reuse it, but theres just no point.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 23, 2014, 05:30:13 pm
I see the last thread merged with this cesspool was also yours.

Improve your posting habits and don't pull another stupid stunt for attention, or else you'll be banned and/or have your daily posts limited.

I want to reiterate this to the staff.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/toonar12x-83426

This guy is being pretty disruptive and spammy.
Sooo... I think something needs to be done here. And I don't think typical bans or post limitations will help. The kid just needs to mature. I don't want to extend ban him. Should we just extend post limit him? He's only really being disruptive with the amount if useless posts he's making. How long? A year? And how many posts per day?
Other options?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 23, 2014, 05:33:06 pm
Since it's just restricted to the shit thread right now I think just a ban for that thread is fine. If he posts again there, that is.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 23, 2014, 06:54:42 pm
I move to thread ban if it continues in earnest. If it spills over, post limit.

Also id like to give a shoutout to @Saohc: and @Niitris: for trying to help him
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 23, 2014, 06:58:02 pm
I was trying to help too >:[
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 23, 2014, 06:59:02 pm
Well youre a gmod its your job! Im just proud of those guys
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 23, 2014, 07:04:55 pm
I demand constant praise >:[
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 24, 2014, 11:18:43 pm
Aaaaaaand his posts outside the shit thread have been just as numerous and terrible. 3 post a day for 180 days at least, I say.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 25, 2014, 12:27:44 am
@JMorphMan: you've elected yourself this kid's caretaker. What's your current verdict? I'm with Chopped Liver.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 02:58:38 am
He needs a limit. I say 6 posts a day, 3 months.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 25, 2014, 03:55:07 am
Anybody else wish to chime in before a limit is set?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 25, 2014, 03:55:31 am
I'm going with JMM's suggestion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 25, 2014, 03:58:03 am
if there is anything i learnt is never go with jnp suggestions.


Has anyone tried talking to him via pms?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 04:00:21 am
I don't really see the point in saying the same things that have already been said to him, but via PM this time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 25, 2014, 04:08:40 am
if there is anything i learnt is never go with jnp suggestions.


Has anyone tried talking to him via pms?
I'll murder you and your whole family >:-(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 25, 2014, 04:15:46 am
help im being persecuted

"rant for two pages about how bad jnp drawings are "
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 25, 2014, 04:19:31 am
6 isn't a limit, the average poster hardly ever needs more than 6 posts a day, unless he's having a marathonic argument.

3 or 4 will teach him the importance of thinking before pushing the reply button.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 04:21:57 am
He's been posting way, way more than 6 per day; that's why I think it will work as a limit. Since he's so young I don't feel like we should jump immediately to 3.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 25, 2014, 04:23:42 am
help im being persecuted

"rant for two pages about how bad jnp drawings are "
You can't say anything bad about my art unless you can draw better yourself!!!

I'll start him at 5 and see if it needs to decrease or stay the same.
BTW apparently editing posts count as a post as well.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on July 25, 2014, 05:27:48 am
going with 3 a day. make him pick carefully
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 25, 2014, 07:23:47 am
3 a day
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 25, 2014, 12:41:21 pm
I think 3 a day is a good benchmark to start out at with these things.  A lot of regular posters around here don't usually make more than 5 or 6 posts a day, anyway.  I feel like an effective restriction should probably need to feel restrictive.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 25, 2014, 02:54:28 pm
Well I can't argue with majority. I reduced it to 3 a day. It comes off January of next year.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on August 03, 2014, 04:28:34 am
Was races thread really nuked. I had some useful feedback there. I thought we werent supposed to delete posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 03, 2014, 04:29:47 am
I moved the really off topic stuff to the shit thread, but I kept everything even vaguely feedback related.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 03, 2014, 04:38:08 am
I wouldn't blame Race if he tried to lock that thread. He got a lot of shit he hardly deserved.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on August 03, 2014, 04:57:59 am
That thread was full of his supporters mocking dismissing and attacking people who were trying to give feedback. He didnt really get any shit imo.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 03, 2014, 05:11:59 am
Not gonna deny there was a LOT of dickriding, but that doesn't take away the fact the guy was pushed around. People were acting as if he was far more defensive and closed to criticism; for the most part he was like "Hey folks I like my shit this way and don't plan to change it drastically any time soon, but I'm still listening to feedback"; and that's fine.

Race should've been more polite towards Niitris, though.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on August 03, 2014, 05:15:18 am
yeah, i was really just confused where the posts went
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 03, 2014, 10:23:44 pm
Perma banned Dan hibiki. Can't argue a lot of reasons at the moment. At a water park with family. I'm sure most of you are up to date. Will give reasons I feel it should stay permanent later.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on August 03, 2014, 10:24:55 pm
let me sum up for you4

- more roleplaying which he was told to stop doing
- excessive amounts of shitposting, derailing
- two extremely rude callouts to chuchoryu (for his spriting) and topper (for being fucking deaf)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 03, 2014, 10:49:06 pm
Good riddance.

lol Caddie.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on August 04, 2014, 02:08:36 am
Perma banned Dan hibiki. Can't argue a lot of reasons at the moment. At a water park with family. I'm sure most of you are up to date. Will give reasons I feel it should stay permanent later.

Oh I'm up to date. That dude was acting like a fucking idiot. I could see him starting a thread that not too many people would agree with, but the shit that Titiln pointed out is just fucking wrong. Adios!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 04, 2014, 02:30:09 am
No arguments against permabanning that guy from me. He's obviously learned nothing from his previous ban and has made absolutely zero effort in trying to improve. He's constantly disruptive and shows not even the slightest interest in changing, there's no point keeping him around.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on August 04, 2014, 02:59:33 am
Agreed.  He's never going to change, there's no need to waste any more time on him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 04, 2014, 03:08:26 am
Yeah, I'm on for a permaban as well.

And his Dan roleplay sucked.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 13, 2014, 11:03:31 pm
The account he is using now wasn't banned.
He was under the name Real Bastard.

I am late, but Mr. Silver: cut that out, it's not like you're forced to like that. Just ignore it and move on. And also stop double posting, there's no merge feature, not anymore. So you have to edit your posts.

Http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/dan-cant-draw-danhibikis-awful-art-gallery-155795.msg1880437.html#msg1880437

We should ban his new account as well.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 13, 2014, 11:17:15 pm
But Mr. Silver isn't DAN_HIBIKI.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 13, 2014, 11:21:34 pm
His old account was Real Bastard and it's still banned.

I'm not sure why it was banned but since he's spouting homophobia in a sprite theme thread I'm not really inclined to ignore the ban evasion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 13, 2014, 11:27:48 pm
He harrased Bea with homophobic slurs via pm.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 13, 2014, 11:29:24 pm
Ah, OK. Fuck that guy. And that last post of his in the CvS sprite thread shows he certainly doesn't see a problem with his behavior, so why keep him around? Permaban that sucker.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 13, 2014, 11:29:43 pm
Post anything on that in private staff and I'm perma banning now.

EDIT: Perma banned

EDIT2:
He harrased Bea with homophobic slurs via pm.
I thought this meant that this was something that just recently happened. Rereading I see that it's a response to me asking why he was originally banned. So of course don't worry about the part where I said to post the stuff in private chat :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 13, 2014, 11:35:32 pm
It's been there for a while!

Look for "homophobe pm" a 3 yo topic.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 13, 2014, 11:36:29 pm
I just edited my post. I had misread
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 17, 2014, 10:22:48 pm
Ban all of them and that guy too!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 18, 2014, 05:04:57 am
Banned Tokdiscos for a month (for a rather colorful reply to a public warning)


Toonar's post have not improved one bit.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 18, 2014, 05:40:04 am
No he has not. And then there was that thing where he might've been trying to avoid the post limit by posting and then deleting his posts after a while.

I honestly don't think post limits are all that useful, outside of very specific cases. I can't remember anyone who it has really worked for, besides Saoch, I guess.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 18, 2014, 05:48:55 am
Guess so. The only functional post limit seems to be 0 posts per day.

Well,  what do we do with Toonar? Do we keep him around 'till he becomes a crazy teenager like Peterfoster or do we ban him right now?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 18, 2014, 08:13:10 am
I say wait until he disrupts/derails another thread. Haven't been keeping up much on his posts, but there haven't been any major shitstorms that I could see, so yeah.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Berry on August 18, 2014, 08:48:50 am
I think he's alright, he makes dumb posts yeah and he wastes the posts he does get to use but he's not being disruptive or saying anything offensive, just makes bad posts and usually cuts out what he's doing when you tell him to stop. For his age I don't think he's that bad honestly. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 18, 2014, 08:51:12 am
He's been pretty disruptive in the TMNT movie thread, but that's not exactly a super important thread or anything. I'm not really sure his posts are bad enough to be worthy of a ban though, at least not a very long one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 18, 2014, 01:11:54 pm
rebanned hjk for the twentieth time. Hes trying to troll some race discussion
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on August 18, 2014, 01:13:08 pm
he wasnt trolling, just being obstinate about his views
 
but yeah ban evading
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on August 18, 2014, 02:30:37 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/it-stimulates-me-84743

Another ban evasion alt.  Banned him again for what feels like the seven hundredth time.  Dude does not know when to quit.

Unrelated note, but who stickied the shit thread?  Is it supposed to be a sticky now?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on August 18, 2014, 02:43:40 pm
That may have been me by accident on mobile sorry D:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 19, 2014, 03:32:22 pm
repeatedly ignoring request thread mods, ignoring warnings, repeatedly posting in other threads, when asked to stop started making posts and posts about ants
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.summary;u=82763

banned for the minimum time of 3 days as a slap on the wrist.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 19, 2014, 04:13:39 pm
permabanned a new account he made

keep on the look out for new accounts
perma banning the primary now too

iced: do we have to permaban his original account=? iwas going to just permaban any new ones


jnp: He's an obvious troll and he's ban evading
He has no contributing qualities in any of his posts
And looking in the last 2 years he's been banned for the same crap

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 22, 2014, 03:24:04 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2011062
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o19/Yesujira/senorarmando.gif)

I'm torn on something brought to my attention. Is this a straight up form of mocking that we should ask JZ/anyone not to do? Or is it a direct exaggerated form of what Chuchoryu does to be shown as a more in your face manner of feedback?

Chuchoryu never listens to feedback anyway and after a certain point his consequences of that stop being our problem. But on the other hand we still cannot blatantly allow someone to outright mock him.

I'm kind of on the side that thinks that image alone isn't enough to give a slap on the wrist for as long as it's not repeated heckling. But I'll post in thread if you guys feel it's mocking too much too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 22, 2014, 03:53:32 pm
Asked a pretty tough love feedback buddy from the comic community I talk to a lot to see if maybe it's ME being biased towards Chuchoryu's works.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Guess I'm biased. Crap
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 22, 2014, 03:54:31 pm
That doesnt seem appropriate to post in a project thread. For comparison Bhatter feedback is good even while pointing chuchoryu's errors,.
Just because chucho is extremely bad with feedback and etc doesnt mean we should let people post derail to his project threads.
He can feedback him better than that if his post is to feedback

Imo Post should be deleted because the following post is already someone commenting on it mockingly. no other action is needed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 23, 2014, 04:53:16 pm
Banned krazymike for spamming. Give him a longer ban if he does the same thing 3 days from now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 31, 2014, 04:31:40 am
Look who decided to show up. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/ihatefatpeople-84817)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 31, 2014, 04:33:16 am
I still have no idea what the deal is with that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 05, 2014, 11:38:57 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/ralfab-84489

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/eliott-57843

this is the same person or ip at least, and he actually has convos with himself in his release threads

also i would keep an eye on elliot because he is exceptionally rude and hostile to people who leave negative feedback on works he likes
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Berry on September 07, 2014, 02:41:52 am
Well, I pmed Eliott about the other account, as I figured he gave me a reply saying ralfab's his best friend and that they live in the same house which is why they share an IP. I personally don't buy it though since this is an excuse I see a lot.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 07, 2014, 02:44:19 am
yeah thats bullshit, he keeps trying to come up with excuses and it doesnt explain why his OWN EMAIL is named that way.

he even tries to claim that the pass is the same and thats why you think it, when you didnt bring it up, that just shows he knows the pass to both acccounts.

Ban him for three days, i will merge him when i can.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 07, 2014, 05:48:38 am
I still think multiaccounting warrants a more severe punishment.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 07, 2014, 05:06:53 pm
Hey, I edited it out, but VHR posted a picture of two elephants fucking in the Ask thread, elephant dick visible and all (if you looked closely caus eit was a small pic)

I slapped him on the wrist but IDK if this ban on sight kinda stuff.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 07, 2014, 05:48:29 pm
nvm, he ignore dmy warning and put up the pic again so I banned him for 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 07, 2014, 05:54:07 pm
Deliberately posting shock images after a mod warning is a HUGE nono. Ban him for 6 months.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Berry on September 07, 2014, 06:06:18 pm
Updated
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 07, 2014, 06:12:28 pm
my bad
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 07, 2014, 10:28:18 pm
if this was his first offense six months seems like way too much, i would do it for a month
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 07, 2014, 10:31:59 pm
according to orochi gill, he is mugenwi, who has had trouble with the staff before.

[1:38:11 PM] Toxic Orochi: http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1905604 but VHR was this giy
[1:39:26 PM] Toxic Orochi: http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1878200 also this
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 07, 2014, 10:35:30 pm
he didnt seem to get banned for either of those, which would make this his first ban, from zero to six months just seems too harsh.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 07, 2014, 10:46:16 pm
Was JZ ever banned before the 'Shamrock incident'?

6 months is perfectly fair for someone who has been on the forum for years and was given a perfectly fair and clear warning about posting pictures of elephants fucking. Jesus, any person with common sense should know better.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 07, 2014, 10:47:54 pm
jz wasnt banned for six months, are you suggesting we apply the same number? I could go check i guess.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 07, 2014, 10:59:19 pm
*digs tru some old posts*

You're right, he wasn't banned for 6 months, just 3. My bad. We should lower VHR's ban to the same lenght; one month's too little timeout for elephant porn.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 07, 2014, 11:02:35 pm
I couldnt find thejz posts , if it was 3, fire away.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 07, 2014, 11:10:32 pm
It's here:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/im-man-109878.0.html

I already changed the ban triggers.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 08, 2014, 12:57:35 am
Agreed that 6 on a 1st time ban was too strict. I'm okay with 3.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 08, 2014, 01:18:48 am
Do you remember Helliori, the guy who spammed dicks?
I banned him from the Spanish Only thread, he posted anyways. Banned for a month.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 08, 2014, 01:22:06 am
you can actually thread ban i think
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 08, 2014, 01:27:46 am
...like, a forum feature? Press a button and user x can't post in y thread? How do you do that? And why do JM's thread bans end with "don't reply in this thread again" or something like that, then?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 08, 2014, 01:29:36 am
I don't recall that ever being a feature. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 08, 2014, 01:31:45 am
Its under "track user" but I usually prefer not to use it unless really pushed to.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 08, 2014, 01:42:31 am
yeah, that
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 08, 2014, 01:59:19 am
Its under "track user" but I usually prefer not to use it unless really pushed to.

Only admins can add new topic bans then?

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 13, 2014, 09:51:01 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/marvelarika-84853

shares ip with dan-hibiki, if its an alt, hes evading a perma

much kudos to alex sinigaglia or pointing this out, i wouldnt have thought to check.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 13, 2014, 09:53:33 pm
If they're not an alt, they seem to be in cohorts (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/ness-is-back-wwe-characters-are-rise-mugen-162240.0.html) with DAN.

I say we keep an eye on their posts for now. Nothing really noteworthy aside from that little tidbit in their posting history thus far.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 13, 2014, 10:24:28 pm
they share the same ip. thats important.

that convo looks hilariously faked
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 13, 2014, 10:25:38 pm
I know, and I figured that link I posted would also be a help. :-\
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 13, 2014, 10:26:27 pm
but yeah, shared ip with a permabanned user is noteworthy enough we take action not just continue to observe
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 13, 2014, 10:56:56 pm
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u402/GodofDeath94/Gadouken-ed.gif~original)

courtesy of alex lmao, guy got exposed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 13, 2014, 11:08:20 pm
Yeah, that chat is exactly what it looks like when one kid tries to write a conversation between two people.

Anyone else wanna chime in on this, or can we just go ahead and ban him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 14, 2014, 01:25:19 am
Looks convincing enough for me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 14, 2014, 04:50:06 am
Ban that sucker. Actually, I'll do it now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 16, 2014, 02:44:00 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=84876

confirmed alt of eliott

also im like 100% sure zorro671 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/zorro671-83430) is also elliot even though they do not share the same ip.

this is because "goldorak" no longer shares an ip with elliot, even though he still shows up in the old ip's error logs

which leads me to believe he's changing his ip, using a proxy, or some other bs like that

plus he triple posted in a ralfab/elliot/goldorak thread and made up some bs story about ralfab lmao

also they both have french emails.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 16, 2014, 06:10:12 pm
lol nvm, its confirmed that zorro is elliot.

zorro has the same exact hostname as goldorak who is elliot. im guessing elliot did the same thing he did to the zorro account to disassociate himself with the goldorak acccount but in the process ended up linking himself to zorro. gj.

thats 3 alts including ralfab lmao, we banned him for 3 days last time, im thinking 3 weeks would be better now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 16, 2014, 06:24:31 pm
After all this, I would say 3 months or something is more fair. Especially since he's still denying it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Berry on September 16, 2014, 06:52:20 pm
You'd think he'd play it safe. 3 months seems acceptable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 16, 2014, 07:04:40 pm
seems useless since he doesnt seem to understand, i would make it a month and then start escalating it as he gets more alts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on September 16, 2014, 07:39:54 pm
i like iceds idea.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 18, 2014, 11:32:08 pm
banned for a month, then

It wasn't funny 4 me my friend...well those admins (They know who they are and what i'm thinking of them) have many times mistaken, about me or Ralfab....they banned me multiple times...cause of divergent opinion about some works here...Ralfab has decided not to come here anymore, and not to use my comp to post some of his works...too bad for community...but anyway...if he's pm'd u...you know the truth.


even for me, i won't share a thing anymore...that's the way...unless some apologies from certain persons here...if not i will stay in the shadow...it's my benefit...no more no less..sorry for some peoples that have been waited for some of Ralfab's conversions...or for some of my HD converted Stages.

Goodbye.

now i'm becoming a leecher.

bye bye end of discussion !!!   4 ever !
after this, though, still kinda having trouble with the idea that he doesn't know what he's doing
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 18, 2014, 11:33:57 pm
are the other accounts banned? theyll need ot be merged too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 18, 2014, 11:37:11 pm
goldorak needs merging, as does ZORRO671; ralfab, however, was already merged.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 19, 2014, 12:43:08 am
Give me links to the accounts that need merged please. I'm still being super busy and can only pass through and do things for a bit.
I work in a warehouse for retail and black friday/x-mas stuff is starting up so I'll be a ghost for the next few months longer.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 22, 2014, 08:26:07 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=84876

confirmed alt of eliott

also im like 100% sure zorro671 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/zorro671-83430) is also elliot even though they do not share the same ip.
right here :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on September 22, 2014, 04:47:25 pm
Interesting. I've never really looked into the depths of the banning process. How exactly do you guys look into this?? Follow IP's besides communicating here?? I'd like to know so that if help is needed, I can assist. :)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 24, 2014, 06:00:57 am
Finally merged the accounts
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 24, 2014, 06:06:25 am
Interesting. I've never really looked into the depths of the banning process. How exactly do you guys look into this?? Follow IP's besides communicating here?? I'd like to know so that if help is needed, I can assist. :)
click on their ips and you can check out any users in the same range. pay attention to hostname as well. use some intuition- i noticed goldorak was no longer sharing ip or hostname with elliot so i checked zorro whom we all had a hunch about but couldnt pin down due to no shared ip. turns out he changed goldoraks ip to zorros, thus outing both of the accounts as his alts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on September 24, 2014, 06:09:08 pm
Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 10, 2014, 06:05:42 am
Banned Helliori (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/helliori-82456) for a month because he continued to spam the Spanish topic and such. Feel free to extend it if you guys want; I dunno how long his previous ban(s) went for.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 10, 2014, 06:17:32 am
It's his 3rd ban (I oculdn't figure out how long his other bans were either; guys, please put the ban length in the ban description so it's easy to figure out!!!!!!); I think it should at least be 6 months or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 10, 2014, 06:03:07 pm
Since nobody else jumped in, I went ahead and extended their ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 10, 2014, 06:27:41 pm
i would ban that dude a year, hes always getting banned
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 11, 2014, 05:03:21 pm
I'd like to permaban him, he's quite literally begging for it (that's what the first pic's about. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/spanish-only-espa%C3%B1ol-solamente-v2-118073.msg2032764.html#msg2032764)).

Not to mention he disregarded his thread ban AGAIN and picked a fight out of the blue.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Saikoro on October 11, 2014, 07:58:38 pm
With all of this talk of Helliori being slapped on the wrist multiple times, on top of picking fights, why don't you go ahead and just permaban him anyhow?? I agree with the above post. :mmhmm:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 11, 2014, 08:10:31 pm
A year sounds fine; it doesn't seem like he's done enough to warrant a permaban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 11, 2014, 08:11:56 pm
Gotta talk it with everyone before taking such a drastic measure.

It's his 3rd ban (I oculdn't figure out how long his other bans were either; guys, please put the ban length in the ban description so it's easy to figure out!!!!!!); I think it should at least be 6 months or something.
His first ban was... uh, I'm not sure for how long did Iced ban him. I think it was week ('cause dicks), his second ban was one month, this third one should normally be 3-6 months long.

Edit: Ninja'ed
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Berry on October 11, 2014, 08:35:05 pm
6 months to a year imo.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on October 12, 2014, 01:42:35 am
6 months
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 12, 2014, 03:18:46 am
Seems somebody already went and put his ban on six months. Jerks be stealin' my thunder.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 18, 2014, 09:28:09 am
alt accounts:
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/yamcha8-84075
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/striwes-85053

there's also this older one (last used 2 years ago):
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=79618
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 19, 2014, 10:09:59 pm
Anyone, anyone? Bueller?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 19, 2014, 10:16:53 pm
I fused them, feel free to carry ont he argument of punishment.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 22, 2014, 12:58:25 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/m-u-g-e-n-development-help-re-barrier-162975.0.html

removed deleting options.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 22, 2014, 11:44:46 pm
Time to remove posting options.

you already have a topic with the same crap as this, use it. im merging this. if you do this again, you are getting punished. we already removed your deletion privileges.
6 hours later NEW GODDAMN TOPIC
How can I hit the enemy in automatic in easiest way ?

Banned for the customary/preliminary 3 days. I don't see a huge need to extend it but maybe I'm missing something?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 22, 2014, 11:47:02 pm
Three days seems fair atm.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 22, 2014, 11:47:37 pm
except he always does this... rajaa warned him a couple months back for this behavior.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 22, 2014, 11:50:07 pm
Just noticed he had been banned for exactly the same thing before too; I now think it should be at minimum a week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 24, 2014, 10:44:35 pm
Yamcha8 is back with another alternate account. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/scorpion2-85082)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 31, 2014, 03:03:41 am
toonar is deleting his posts in order to change his responses, is this an issue?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 31, 2014, 03:04:29 am
Yeah.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 27, 2014, 04:08:32 pm
Banned JANUS DIOS for 3 days, pretty sure he'll end up permabanned later.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on November 30, 2014, 12:24:32 am
Regarding the Omega situation, I have issued a warning to all users in the "Anime and Manga" thread to cut out attacking him over his posts. Since this is a repeat issue, I ask all you guys also take it seriously and take action if you see this problem arise. If anyone need further info, I have PMs, posts and other material I can provide
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 30, 2014, 02:14:33 am
He's still posting like an airhead. The mean spirited replies are completely understandable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on November 30, 2014, 02:18:28 am
No they are not. He was told to ignore people who have antagonized him in the past by staff, which he did. Most of his posts are informative links. The post in question was deliberately misinterpreted as well.

Explain to me again why acting like a douchebag is acceptable in this case? Even cursory research shows his posts are non-confrontational, and the worst he can be accused of is not knowing what everyones least fave anime is. The posts are absolutely not understandable and its kind of worrisome youd think they are. Im pretty sure regular members dont want to see the staff encouraging attacking a member over not knowing something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 30, 2014, 02:29:59 am
His individual post are harmless, but when you put them together you realize he's quite incompetent at interacting with other people.    He breaks the flow of conversations and his links are borderline spam, even in the rare instances in which other users reply to them he's uncapable of following them; his replies are vague and unconected, even generic at times, it's like he doesn't actually read what other people post. That shit might not be rule breaking behavior, but it's bound to piss off a lot of people and gather negative attention.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on November 30, 2014, 02:34:01 am
- we don't moderate social skills
- posting news links is borderline spam? than the "x news that doesnt deserve its own thread" might as well be considered spam threads. posting links to share info is really not such a huge issue.
- breaks what flow? he posts a link and sometimes asks for an opinion, that doesnt constitute anything that disruptive
- generic/vague is not a crime nor is it our problem, and it doesnt justify the responses.

and all of the regardless, my past point stands- we shouldnt be encouraging such behavior. as mods its kind of our job to make sure people arent getting bullied here. i can understand people with post limits who deliberately start controversy, but this is not the case here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 30, 2014, 03:03:21 am
- Yes we do when shit gets out the of hand. I said Omega's behavior is not ban worthy though.
- Almost nobody's ever grateful for his links, people rarely ever reply to him and when they do he does everything I stated in my previous post. Also, he's been called out for posting unrelated shit from bad blogs in the past.
- If he can't reply properly or step aside he's breaking the flow of the thread.
- We don't, but you cannot expect all of our userbase to ignore it.

Our job isn't babysitting either; when someone acts or talks foolishly, irrationally or obnoxiously he's mocked by his peers; that's normal social interaction. We should step in only when shit gets ou of hand, or when people are being shitheads for absolutely no reason.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on November 30, 2014, 03:10:50 am
I realize our job isnt babysitting, but this is a problem issue that has been addressed previously by staff as the responses moved away from regular social interaction into straight up attacking/flaming. It is also our job to ensure threads do not get derailed with irrelevant discussion which is the main goal of what I did here

Also, isnt he basically srepping aside when he doesnt respond anyway?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 30, 2014, 04:12:01 am
That wasn't flaming. That wasn't bullying. That was some good ol' fashioned "bro you made a shitty post and we're making fun of it". It wasn't mod action-worthy harrasment. You overacted.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on November 30, 2014, 04:26:29 am
.....?

First off, I said that the responses in the past moved away from that. Not here. You misread my post. Unles you eman the rest of the staff overacted as well when they told Omega it was okay to ignore posts.

Second, stopping a thread from derailing is overaction? I'm glad youre all for making fun of people but just ignoring a thread derail is kind of underacting to me. as I have been stressing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on November 30, 2014, 04:44:05 am
I'm inclined to agree with Fubini. There's been sort of a middle ground allowance for this recurring incident. Where these kinds of replies to Omega are "allowed" as long as they don't cross into straight insults.

There is a saying about insanity and allowing things to repeat though. I don't know if umezono should react the same way in a future situation. Perhaps stick to things he may have learned in this altercation. Like not asking the thread derail to stop while being accusing right off the bat. That made people inclined to defend their actions more and explain their side. Resulting in more derail.

If someone feels they interpret a post better(like umezono interpreted the post correctly here) simply state that with the direction to stop the derail. It's better to think of a post positively and hope a user doesn't come back and say they meant the negative view instead :p

So while this isn't the typical method it is nice to try something new to resolve the problem instead of the same old same old. And it allowed Omega to make a very nice post explaining how the pokes make him feel and why he does or does not respond in certain ways.

Posts like that help remind us he's a regular person not trying to be mischievous.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on November 30, 2014, 04:49:50 am
fair enough though i really didnt, I just asked people to stop (by saying his post was fine) and when people said it was fine to do it cause hes a bad poster, etc THATS when i started defending his posts and condemning there

as ive said a million times, my first post just wanted to end the derail. im not moderating peoples feelings as fubini seems to be accusing me of, when we got into that i was simply debating.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on November 30, 2014, 05:03:23 am
Quote
he didnt say it was these comments hes reffering to, and theres nothing wrong with his post, kindly get off his back.

edit: woops my phone quoted for me. didnt mean to quote one person, this is for all of you.
I'm actually quoting this from byakko's super quote so if it's not your 1st reply on the subject correct me. Cell phone this was easier.
The intent of that post is hard to see as just a claim to stop the derail. I like the conversation that sparked because of it but I can see how it'd look like you came across more defending Omega. Which isn't bad. Heck, things like this probably should happen every now and then.

But now that it gave us this discussion the next time I feel it'd be better to sound more neutral. That's all I'm suggesting.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on November 30, 2014, 05:05:11 am
no prob, didnt know the tone was bad. just dont want to be written off as having attacked peoples opinions as basis for my moderation as i am being accused.

that post was solely to stop people from continuing that discussion
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on November 30, 2014, 05:15:16 am
So you needed someone else to come in and post a positive view on your initial post?! :p hah

Nah, it's just that users were annoyed with Omega so when you come post you have to consider how your post may be read. The mentality of the person reading plays a big role. If they are annoyed at someone and you direct a statement towards a certain "side " it can be read internally in a way that irks more. Especially since this has never happened like this. No one has attempted to stop a potential flare up at such an early stage so it feels to them as if you jumped the gun too.

And don't think I'm getting on to you for any such posts. I just want it to help us if it comes up again in this form or another later.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on November 30, 2014, 05:32:10 am
lol, yeah like anyone cares im a bad guy now 4ever

the decision to stop the posts was based on the fact he has gone through staff with this before, which assigns more importance to the issue. according to him, people have been told to stop doing this as well
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on November 30, 2014, 05:52:34 am
Yep. That's why in the end I like what you did. But right now you still make it sound completely like Omega is the victim 100%

While At the moment I'm not discussing the individual issues. I'm breaking it down to 2 sides that feel justified with their actions. And since neither side's actions were blatant rule breaking that's when things get tricky and when many of the points Fubini brought up are true.

I just want to make sure you understand the backlash you got. I'm glad you stepped up to try this. I tend to ere on the side of the "bullied " too. But if you can only see the one side it can slowly lead to a shift too far. I never want Guild to go back to the volatile ways of old, but there is a point where everyone can become to "nice" as well. We need to keep a certain balance.

This is different. As you said this is something that has almost gotten certain users banned. It's been happening for a long time and I commend you on the new approach to an old problem.

Heck, I may even be misinterpreting your posts a bit. But as I said earlier, it's important that you understand why there was some backlash from users and some staff alike.

Clarification edit: please don't read my post as backlash as well =p just by me using the word so often may be making you read this more negatively than I intend! OMG! Now I made "backlash" be a trigger to umezono!!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on November 30, 2014, 06:14:23 am
yeah, that much is obvious
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Berry on December 01, 2014, 11:25:11 pm
So, mikecrazy2004 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=83146) really hasn't cut down on his shitposting, mostly numerous necros and today a request thread in releases. With how often he's done this (and numerous warnings behind that) I think it's time for a 3 day ban at least. He doesn't seem to be improving and most of his posts seem to end up in the recycle bin.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 01, 2014, 11:30:23 pm
Do you think that a pm could help out? I dunno how he is with replying to those.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 02, 2014, 01:28:57 am
It wouldn't; he ignores them (I sent him two pms for necroposting...the same day). He's been warned too many times already, a 3 day ban is fair.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Berry on December 02, 2014, 04:45:52 am
I figured as much. He doesn't seem too aware of what he's doing either :/
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 02, 2014, 06:22:11 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2053767

when necros and warnings dont work, spam it in an unrelated topic

im for a small ban or post limit
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 02, 2014, 06:28:56 pm
Just for 1 last ditch effort to communicate.
He says "sorry for bad english"
Does anyone know what his native language may be?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 02, 2014, 08:27:51 pm
I sent him a PM asking him what his primary language is.

If he makes another post in the same manner he's been posting go ahead and slap him with a 3 day ban.

I don't know if a post limit would be effective because multiple posts a day don't seem to be the problem.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 02, 2014, 11:03:26 pm
Well, he replied at least!
He said it was english -_-

So I sent him this.
Quote
Have you seen the other messages some of the staff have been sending you?
You may want to take a look here (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2053474) and read what's going on before you get in more trouble.
Further replies back will probably be posted in private staff's PM discussion thread unless redundant.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 02, 2014, 11:26:39 pm
i think hes just really young
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 03, 2014, 06:54:59 am
After reading his responses to my latest PM, deliberation in private staff over said PM and now his return to spamming I've issued a soft ban for 800 days on him.

He can still log in and read the site. He just cannot post or send PMs.

Going by his name and the way he types we presume he is about 10 years old. This was the least cruel thing we could come up with for him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 03, 2014, 11:21:15 pm
I banned toonar for three days.


this is the most fucking stupid pathetic piece of shit in the whole entire world and i wish for her to go to hell and suffer eternal rape by satan.

his posts are getting worse.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 03, 2014, 11:52:56 pm
Is this his second or 3rd ban?
Either way I'd increase it to either a week or a month.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 04, 2014, 04:47:46 am
I'm with JNP.  He's been banned/limited/otherwise reprimanded enough to warrant more than 3 days.  I'd suggest upping it to at least a week.  Though I have serious doubts that that kid's ever going to improve.  No amount of warnings, bans, or posting limits seem to be getting through to him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 04, 2014, 06:32:27 am
Well, someone increased it to 30 days so that takes care of that.

About CrazyMike. In private we discussed that we found his facebook and he's older than 10.

He's begging like crazy to come back. Do you guys think we should decrease his ban to 3 days and tell him if he acts up more when he comes back it'll be increased? For some reason I think I'm feeling bad for the dope =p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 04, 2014, 06:34:53 am
all he does is spam lol. not even the kind that can be defended. hes old enough to read and obviously can read, and hes smart enough to figure out the rules (and how to circumvent his soft ban)

im for keeping him on soft ban, but we can lower it. or the ban cycle works too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 04, 2014, 06:37:17 am
I know it's wishful thinking. It always is!
But if he's begging so much maybe he won't do the same crap and will listen this time? I know he doesn't give anything back but it still feels odd to soft ban him so long regardless. At least till he works his way to it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 04, 2014, 06:41:03 am
thats true.

but according to lith and cyan paul and whoever else has dealt with him, he doesnt seem to understand he is doing anything wrong

i dont think theres anything for him to listen to or promise. even his response to you was basically still requesting someone to remake chars in pots style lol.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 04, 2014, 06:44:28 am
I know. ~_~
Even though we know the outcome I still feel a chance should be given. Everyone else agree with Umezono? Or do we let a couple more Evil Ryu requests to enter the forum by giving him another go in a couple days?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Berry on December 04, 2014, 06:45:01 am
Since he's not a kid, lower the soft ban, 2 years is a bit much now but I highly doubt he'll change anything, mostly because it doesn't seem like he knows what he's doing wrong.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 04, 2014, 04:01:33 pm
Okay, lowered his ban down to 2 days.

Basically if he comes back doing the same crap start the cycle. Ban a month, 6 months, etc
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 11, 2014, 05:01:37 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2057390
So Umezono had to diffuse JZ again.

Umezono did a fine job as he usually does with JZ, however he simply shouldn't have to keep calming JZ down.
We've all lost count on how many times we've had to warn and ban Jesuszilla. And I'll even admit that as far as losing his cool this was much more subdued than his normal attacks. So it can be said he's taken some strides to improve.

But, I think if we have to remind JZ yet again we should just go ahead and begin the ban cycle. Just to simplify: if he gets banned we just start it as ban 1 and keep going with it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 12, 2014, 05:16:15 am
mikecrazy is still shitposting
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 12, 2014, 05:22:20 am
Warn him in thread that he's doing what he did before to get himself banned. Then if he does it again ban him for a month.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 12, 2014, 05:22:45 am
didnt we agree on 3 days next time he does it?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 12, 2014, 05:23:22 am
also my bad i removed the post. ill remerge it but imo hes not gonna listen to or understand any warning
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 12, 2014, 05:25:38 am
Last time we basically banned him for a week instead of 3 days like we should have. Due to thinking he was 10.

So unless you think we should backtrack to the 3 day ban after the week ban I think moving to the month would be best.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 12, 2014, 05:30:06 am
his week ban was soft wasnt it? he could access the forum. just ban him straight for a week
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 12, 2014, 05:49:58 am
How about two weeks now and then one month if he doesn't learn anything (even though he won't)?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 12, 2014, 06:03:34 am
That seems fair; I think it's clear at this point that this won't stop, no matter what we say to mikecrazy.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 12, 2014, 06:56:42 am
I'd rather just pretend a perma is justified at this point, but I guess a ban cycle will work.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 12, 2014, 09:36:30 pm
went ahead and banned for 2 weeks
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 16, 2014, 06:27:01 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/osbtm1-84878

this guy seems bent on starting shit over people giving feedback. ive warned him twice. if he continues i recommend some sort of action
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 16, 2014, 06:32:22 pm
I would recommend splitting or deleting the derail stuff (I guess everything after Alex's post, more or less) and stating that any further derailment will earn him a 3 day ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 16, 2014, 06:33:41 pm
can you do it :P im lazy and dont wanna find /name the shit thread
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 16, 2014, 06:38:21 pm
Fine but I'm on my phone so if I accidentally delete the forum it's on you!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Berry on December 16, 2014, 06:41:58 pm
NO STOP

I already did it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 17, 2014, 04:18:59 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mandelly-77040

3 consecutive necros (in another language)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 19, 2014, 10:40:02 pm
Hank venture has sent a message asking to be unbanned and promising to not start any drama like that of four years ago.
After some arguing internally amidst us he was unbanned as requested.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 27, 2014, 01:16:21 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/artistropeadope-82107

Ban 1 for this guy.
Banned for 3 days. He's only had 6 posts and they're all hostile and trolling.

If he comes back posting the same way I'd ban again for 3-6 months.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 27, 2014, 01:43:12 am
I doubt he'll even notice he's banned.

You'll get an angry reply in about two weeks, though.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 27, 2014, 01:52:11 am
Expecting as much. Just have to give him the choice to self destruct or not.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 27, 2014, 03:14:30 am
New user "Shulk" who has been posting a lot of new topics, shares an account with old permabanned user ihatefatepeople, responsible for http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/i-hate-weegeeisgonigtokillm-161975.msg2015241.html#msg2015241

Ricepigeon told me that it's probably "weegeeisgoingtokillm" as they share skype accounts and this guy went around trying to make himself look bad because........... i don't know, youtube mugen is like that.

Anyway he is ban evading
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 27, 2014, 03:17:28 am
Permaban ASAP
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on December 27, 2014, 03:22:56 am
It's done
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 27, 2014, 03:02:04 pm
Banned Zox for bumping a 2011 thread and acting like an 11 yo tough guy. Also cleaned up mugen discussion a bit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 27, 2014, 10:29:47 pm
What pms are they going on about?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 30, 2014, 04:23:42 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/delete-my-account-82107
Ban #2
7 days. Surely since he hates it here so much we won't see him again after it is over.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 30, 2014, 04:33:04 am
While I personally like the idea of banning everyone begging for it (though I favor permabans), do you think throwing a mini tantrum asking for his account's deletion is really banworthy? I'm pretty sure we've ignored people asking to be banned/have their accounts deleted before (unless they started shitting all over the place).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 30, 2014, 04:37:30 am
My primary reasoning was that he did this right after coming off of a ban. To me that means the person needs more time to cool off and didn't learn anything. Though I also had the same thought you did that we should actually wait till he screws up again.

I went ahead and spoke with Iced on chat and he agreed with the ban.

To note if most of you agree he shouldn't have been banned for that then it can still be changed. Wouldn't be our 1st jumping the gun.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 30, 2014, 04:43:17 am
I think it would've been better if we waited until artistropeadope flipped out again instead of jumping the gun but I mean I'm not like super concerned about it because it's a forgone conclusion so eh I dunno.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 01, 2015, 11:09:56 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2065172

Rednavi banned for 2 weeks for mocking a suicidal user.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on January 02, 2015, 12:04:26 am
no issues here
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on January 02, 2015, 12:17:34 am
Yep.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 03, 2015, 01:09:10 pm
banned mugen chaos account for multi accounting, as custom with multi accounting when the original account isnt banned, the alternate account was banned and the original account will be avaliable again after a short period.

the ban on the original account is of a week.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/b-84393
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=85404
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=84496
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 03, 2015, 02:40:34 pm
A week? That's like the fourth time he does the same thing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 03, 2015, 02:49:24 pm
I only saw one other account so I doubled the ban.  Feel free to boost it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 03, 2015, 03:04:52 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=tracking;sa=ip;searchip=68.47.5.83;u=84393

I wouldn't settle for less than 6 months. Anyone else wants to chime in?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Mog on January 03, 2015, 05:22:16 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/where-is-variety--160783.msg1989000.html#msg1989000


That plus the rest of the post history on the other accounts makes me think he's not all that interested in being here anyway.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 03, 2015, 06:05:33 pm
if he keeps that up I will just contact his parents
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 03, 2015, 07:40:22 pm
What are you going to tell her?

"Dear Mrs. Kelly:

I'm Iced from the MFG's forum staff (don't ask questions!), your boy Bernie's been a real fucking jackass in our forums. Would you mind talking to him so he behaves a little less like a fucking jackass?

Yours truly;

A stranger"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 11, 2015, 04:33:15 am
Throwing it up here for everyone else to know:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2069534

Sky79's been given a warning(s) for flamebaiting.  Guy's got a history of going into the comics/comic movies threads and starting massive derails for no reason.  This time around he dug up a two month old post just to post an "I'm with stupid" emote.  If he starts doing it again, start him on the ban cycle.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on January 11, 2015, 08:14:12 am
he responded to your warnings anyway. should we go ahead and ban him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 11, 2015, 08:28:26 am
I don't think it really counts and it wasn't even in the thread in question so ehhhh
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on January 11, 2015, 08:30:27 am
lol it was originally in the thread. he deleted it and moved it to the bathory thread

whatever
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on January 11, 2015, 08:47:55 am
I'd still say we ban him just so he makes good on his promise to go elsewhere.

Make the door hit him on the ass on his way out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Berry on January 11, 2015, 08:48:44 am
it's cute he thinks someone actually cares
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on January 11, 2015, 02:26:46 pm
Aaaaaand he's gone. I gave him a week to start with.  If he really wants to think he's won lets not give him the chance to come back and gloat.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 11, 2015, 03:10:21 pm
I will not be intimidated. I'm leaving!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on January 23, 2015, 12:51:46 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/requests-twilight-sands-motvn-bump-164594.msg0.html#new

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 23, 2015, 12:58:16 am
Not really kosher for a sig, unspoiled.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 23, 2015, 01:27:45 am
Too crudely cartoonish to be sexual and not gruesome enough to be shocking. Tacky for sure, but not worth deleting/spoiling, imo.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on January 23, 2015, 01:34:41 am
I am with you on this one
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Formerly Hoshi on January 23, 2015, 01:36:56 am
Same. Seeing it in or out of context doesn't/wouldn't offend me either way. If there was frontal nudity then I'd be more concerned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 30, 2015, 02:59:41 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2076566
Banned another Navana account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on January 30, 2015, 03:03:37 am
sigh
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on January 30, 2015, 05:41:36 am
according to navana the IPs dont match, and it does seem like that when i checked the IP page. what tipped you off
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 30, 2015, 05:59:17 am
The wording, use of ~ so much and the "private" messages on Skype.

Ran it by JMM and he agreed it had to be navana

It's not the 1st time IPs didn't match
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on January 30, 2015, 06:06:43 am
I think this might be a little bit of a stretch. I'm not saying that it isnt him, but that evidence is really weak
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 30, 2015, 06:18:02 am
I wasn't sure till the line about "private" messages on Skype. At that point I was 95% sure it was him and ran it by the only other mod I saw on gchat to be sure.
Even if by some chance it's someone else that posts like that it's kinda creepy to join a gaming forum filled with mostly children to teens in that manner.

If you really feel it's in error we can unban and bring the post back though.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on January 30, 2015, 07:46:50 am
in my opinion you should have waited for him to post more
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 30, 2015, 02:24:17 pm
All right. Unbanned and restored the post. This feels like Deja Vu for me but I hope this time we don't find out it's another "friend" account of Navana's.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 09, 2015, 10:33:31 pm
Post limit candidate:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/dashdogfizz-85605
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 09, 2015, 11:57:39 pm
I'd say go for it. No idea what they think they're going for with half of their posts, and it's kinda disconcerting.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 10, 2015, 12:56:23 am
Post limit sounds good, but I think a warning to stop making so many threads first would be the best course of action; if that doesn't work we can move onto applying a post limit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on February 10, 2015, 01:31:38 am
I've already had to warn him once for that giant animated gif he had in his sig when he first signed up.  And again just now for triple posting in his own thread.  This kid is not wasting any time seeing how many rules he can break on his first day here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 10, 2015, 02:18:51 am
Post limit sounds good, but I think a warning to stop making so many threads first would be the best course of action; if that doesn't work we can move onto applying a post limit.
Done.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 13, 2015, 12:03:21 am
crimsonth18
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2080363
Had to delete like 3 or 4 threads from this user begging for this character to be made. Warned in this thread to stop.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on February 15, 2015, 06:02:35 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/-noire-black-heart-85639
"Age: 9"

Isn't there some sort of age limit?

Banned Lord M for three days for derailing a release topic with his entitled whining and ignoring two of my warnings to cut it out. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2083197)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 21, 2015, 04:06:04 pm
Banned a metroker alt.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 01, 2015, 12:44:53 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2087923
Electrocaid is being weird. Had to warn him
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 01, 2015, 04:41:02 pm
Trinitronity is trying to bypass his post limit by using the edit button.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 01, 2015, 06:57:26 pm
Never mind that, he's banned now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 01, 2015, 10:30:58 pm
Why should Trinitronity be banned for a year:
- This is his 4th ban.
- He doesn't value his limited posting rights.
- He isn't going to learn or improve in any way or shape.
- 'cuz jnp said so.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 01, 2015, 10:35:57 pm
I think that we should stick to the normal ban system we have for most users because Trini isn't a special case; 6 months is still a pretty long time, and the bans will keep doubling if he keeps this shit up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 01, 2015, 11:36:24 pm
I thought I remembered 6 months for his last ban. I still think a year would be better just because he says being banned is better than having the limit. Since he ;quote "has to make a reply." And well, to give us a year break from him :P

But since it turned out he was banned 3 months last time and it's not like he caused a scene publicly~~ Just annoyed some of the staff a bit I don't mind it being 6 months.

Anyone else want to chime in?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 02, 2015, 01:47:38 am
Either way it's fine with me, because it's clear he's not even trying to understand what the post limit was for in the first place, so chances are another ban wouldn't do much for him either.  If I had to pick one or the other I'd make it six months because, like everyone else said, that's the regular system and he's not really being enough of a nuisance to be a special case.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 02, 2015, 08:14:42 am
slap him with a year if this is his fourth
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on March 02, 2015, 11:06:51 am
Either way it's fine with me, because it's clear he's not even trying to understand what the post limit was for in the first place, so chances are another ban wouldn't do much for him either.  If I had to pick one or the other I'd make it six months because, like everyone else said, that's the regular system and he's not really being enough of a nuisance to be a special case.

agreeing with this, worst case scenario is that we'll just have to ban him again at that point. the fact that he doesnt understand what the post limit is supposed to do might not give him much hope but theres no harm with the formalities
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 02, 2015, 11:16:36 am
seems like a literal cause of the cycle thing, no point going over that.
I agree.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 04, 2015, 03:44:47 am
warning issued to sd
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2088837
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 28, 2015, 07:17:39 pm
Cursed ComboAssassin20 (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/comboassassin20-81303) for consistently having signatures that are larger than the filesize limit in spite of multiple warnings in their sig and PMs.

Oh, and they're asking to have their account deleted. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/deleting-mfg-account-165795.0.html) Sigh.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 31, 2015, 10:28:13 pm
^He's banned now.
Don't move this back to the main board.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 04, 2015, 03:08:00 pm
Banned again.
This time I skipped to 6 months.
I do hope he notices that his account is still here and I look forward to giving him a year ban in 6 months.
Maybe he can make this an annual thing!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 06, 2015, 05:36:02 am
You fool! You gave him what he wants!!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 06, 2015, 05:37:33 am
Curses. Foiled again!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 06, 2015, 03:09:16 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2099999
Warned tatsuma-king to stop shit posting
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 06, 2015, 04:39:49 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=85584
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=85541

He's using an alt account. Ban him after merging the two accounts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 06, 2015, 04:41:57 pm
Ugh. That's annoying. I'd even been promoting his work more on MFG's FaceBook to help him cause he seemed like an eager newcomer...

Going for 3 day ban
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 06, 2015, 04:45:16 pm
I guess he's still a kid and thought it'd be funny. Maybe he'll gain a speck of maturity that prevents him from acting out like this in the future.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 06, 2015, 04:46:38 pm
I hope so. Accounts merged. Banned for 3 days
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 29, 2015, 03:01:02 am
Meeeh..., then screw you and your "necrobumping" law...
b&
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 29, 2015, 03:48:39 am
I can see it's due to necro bumping but what happened?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 29, 2015, 04:02:55 am
I sent him the same generic message I've c/p for the last five years each time I delete a necro. He felt the need to reply (I hate when they do that) telling me his thread in requests was ignored, I told him them's the brakes. Don't think I have to tell you how the story ends.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 29, 2015, 03:34:08 pm
I tweaked his ban a bit. You had him on full ban. Most of the time we make it a partial so they may still view the site.
Also added a note that it's ban 1 for our future reference.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 01, 2015, 03:42:29 pm
Let's see your post history so far:

- Shitposting hard.
- Necrobumping.
- Double posting.
- Starting threads in the wrong board, then moving them to an even less fitting board.
- Being a douchebag after a local mod warned you politely.

Change your terrible posting habits. You're heading to bantown.

YochiTheMaster's been warned already, ban him the next time he does something stupid.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/gaming-retro-gameing-166408.0.html

Thoughts on this and all the other warez related reports?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 01, 2015, 04:02:03 pm
Hmmm, many of the games in there are kinda newer. Like I don't know if ps1 and Saturn games would be old enough to fall into abandonware. But then again I'm not so sure even mario 1 would considering Nintendo still releases those games on virtual console.

But I'm not the best on the legalities of this stuff either. Id think anything older than PS2 should be fine at this point???
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 01, 2015, 04:34:57 pm
Aaaaaaand Yochi necrobumped a thread again. Two of them, actually. B&.

I really don't get the technicalities either.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 27, 2015, 05:15:34 pm
One Man Aumio  (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/one-man-aumio-79533)
Is being super disruptive and posting way too many off topic posts. Iced just warned him not to do so. Keep an eye out on him. Don't know if we might need to ban or post limit if he keeps it up.

I haven't seen him making many useful or contributive posts so I'm leaning toward just going for the ban cycle if he keeps it up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on May 27, 2015, 05:19:03 pm
I've already warned him to stay on topic in the Street Fighter V thread (can't link bc I'm on my phone ATM), so next warning would warrant a time-out imo.

EDIT: I just read the shit thread derail. Tbh we should've just banned him then. It's clear he doesn't care for being warned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 27, 2015, 06:46:56 pm
*reads the shit thread*
I've already warned him to stay on topic in the Street Fighter V thread
Then he should definitely be banned now.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 01, 2015, 10:44:23 pm
banned helliori for 15 days this isnt the first time he is banned
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/spanish-only-espa%C3%B1ol-solamente-v2-118073.new.html#new
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 01, 2015, 10:54:02 pm
Needs another 165 days. His last ban was 3 months long.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 01, 2015, 11:42:50 pm
you guys can understand the dialogue better than me, does he deserve the six months?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 02, 2015, 12:14:21 am
He does. He was doing the same shit that got him banned twice already.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 02, 2015, 12:33:46 am
what about http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/pingumugen-85925 ?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 02, 2015, 12:47:18 am
took too long, now he has 3 days
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 02, 2015, 02:29:40 am
He had it coming, too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 06, 2015, 04:06:57 am
Banned Pingumugen again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 06, 2015, 04:15:16 am
You beat me to it. Sure as hell deserved it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 08, 2015, 07:42:14 pm
Wlanmania keeps wishlisting in threads even after being warned by staff (Jmorph and I iirc). Tempted to slap him with a ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 08, 2015, 07:43:06 pm
ban him.


I just had to warn one man alumnio to stop wishlisting and offtopicing in chuchoryu threads. Its bad enough he was doing that, its even worse that he was doing it in completely broken english and accusing people that warned him not to do it of "leaving the alones" and "being the shit"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 08, 2015, 07:53:35 pm
Apparently he's been banned before. I just gave him three days since I'm unfamiliar with his previous bannings but feel free to extend it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 09, 2015, 01:20:56 am
That's why I put the ban # in the staff notes. Makes it easier to know when a ban should be extended.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 09, 2015, 01:34:05 am
Note to self: do that. Banning people on my phone is a hassle anyways.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 09, 2015, 01:37:05 am
I'm not sure he needed to be banned right then and there, because he had made a new topic to do his wishlisting, but I don't have that big of a problem with it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 09, 2015, 01:38:53 am
The topic was also originally in the Request board (aka he didn't read the rules for that section) and warning him had clearly fallen upon deaf ears; I didn't want to deal with another topic of people repeating what he's been told countless times.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 09, 2015, 01:54:32 am
I know where he posted it because I'm the one who moved it :P

I just, I dunno, I think he was trying to comply with the warnings but was too dumb not to remember/look at the rules for that section, none of which really speaks to me as being worthy of a ban, but it's close enough that I'm fine with him getting a 3 day ban
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 09, 2015, 01:57:51 am
Honestly, the guy was on thin ice and the alternative was even more ridicule that would've just grown tiresome (as if it hadn't already). I was kinda quick to the banhammer, but I can always hold up on it in the future if I need to.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 09, 2015, 05:21:26 am
Things were very quickly heading towards him being banned; maybe this will hopefully get him to get his act in order?

I mean, that's got to have happened at least once in the history of this forum, right? C'mon, I know I'll remember something.

c'mon :uhoh:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 11, 2015, 03:43:19 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2123955

So should we ban Jotaro at this point for him continuing this after I told him to stop or do we let him keep going in the shit thread since it looks like no one is taking him seriously and it's simply self inflicting at this point. My 1st thought was a ban but it's so ridiculous now that it's not even causing a disruption or anything.

Or maybe I should just ban Shin Dio and DKDC so I can finally be a real boss mod.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on June 11, 2015, 04:11:29 pm
its been a while since ive seen an argument over nothing in this forum

honestly hes being stupid but its in the shit thread now so if it doesnt spread out i actually dont care if hes banned or not
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on June 11, 2015, 04:34:07 pm
Eh.  The only one who really seems to be bothered at all by this is DKDC and sometimes I think that guy actually enjoys long-winded arguments over petty semantics so that's a wash.  Really it's just Jotaro embarrassing the ever-loving hell out of himself over nothing so as long as he keeps that in the shit thread I don't think we need to ban him.

If he starts dragging his mess into other threads though, then go ahead and drop the hammer.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 20, 2015, 07:26:14 pm
Banned TETSUGA GENSHO for starting this wonderful derail (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2128090) and for ignoring the warning I gave him to cut it out immediately. He's been banned twice before but I've only got it set for 3 days right now, which seems like a good length for this incident.

Hopefully he will be able to visit Homotown while he's away.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 21, 2015, 05:01:55 am
Now if you're sad, and you're feeling blue.
Go out and buy a brand new pair of shoes aaand…

You go down, down to Homo Town.
'cause people down there
Really like to get it on.
Get it on~Hey!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 21, 2015, 10:55:49 pm
Banned Pingumugen again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on June 21, 2015, 11:42:21 pm
why was he banned?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 21, 2015, 11:44:28 pm
Doing the same thing he did to get banned the last time as as soon as said ban expired:

Shitposting and acting like an obsessesive creep.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 16, 2015, 09:07:25 pm
Yo Iced/jnp, this guy says he can't find the new topic button. It might be a real bug, so try talking to him:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/clamslam-86283
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 16, 2015, 09:19:46 pm
Sent him a PM
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 17, 2015, 04:30:18 am
Wasn't there an anti-spam measure we did that prevented people with lower than 10 posts from starting threads?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 17, 2015, 04:46:25 am
I thought it was for posting pictures. Idk I never kept track of this shit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 28, 2015, 03:12:24 am
I think we should give ClamSlam (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/clamslam-86283) some sort of slap on the wrist for generally being really disruptive and bumping a bunch of old topics. Post limit seems most appropriate imo.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 28, 2015, 03:30:59 am
He won't necrobump anymore.

I'm not too strongly opposed to ban him though, he's got some really bad posting habits.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 28, 2015, 08:39:36 am
I think a post limit is the best idea.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 28, 2015, 03:04:18 pm
I know I talked to him a bit when he was 1st "targeting" Xan. Has anyone talked to him about how he's posting yet by pm or in public on a moderator level?

We should always go through the motions and attempt to reach out before we slap bans and post limits. I've been at work for 3 days so if you guys have I may have missed it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 01, 2015, 03:26:09 pm
I think we should give ClamSlam (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/clamslam-86283) some sort of slap on the wrist for generally being really disrupti-
Yeah, done. He's banned.

He's still going to need the post limit, though.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 02, 2015, 10:41:04 pm
Limited him to 5 posts a day.
I still don't know if anyone PMed him or talked to him though. I guess I need to do it if/when he starts posting again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 03, 2015, 11:44:34 am
Aumio keeps posting on threads and then deleting his posts, so I added him to the no delete user setting.

edit: He promised he wouldnt repeat what happened ( deleting posts that have been replied to ) and so im removing the bar on deletes,but that might chance in the future.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 08, 2015, 12:37:06 pm
received complaint that user : http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.summary;u=78128
was using a gif of a anime girl humping a table as a sig, so I removed it and pmed him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on August 10, 2015, 04:32:04 am
Issued a warning to Jigiba (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/jigiba-75516) for racism and hate speech in this thread:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/blm-shuts-bernie-sanders-and-acucses-crowd-being-white-supremacists--168304.0.html

Kid writes a bunch of huge rants about how most black people are probably criminals and that there's no such thing as racism, then starts mocking everyone who replies by stating it's "just his opinon."  He's either trolling or an idiot, but either way we shouldn't be allowing it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 11, 2015, 06:02:50 am
If he comes back replying in the same manner after I just told him to stop posting in this tone go ahead and start him on the ban cycle. At this point I can't think of a way to make it clearer to him. He's been warned enough.

I'm going to bed. G'night you bunch of libtards
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 11, 2015, 06:33:36 am
Well, he outed himself. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2147024) Perma'd.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 11, 2015, 11:28:23 am
He confuses me. I mean he finally had an account we were questioning and still couldn't keep up the charad.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 11, 2015, 12:13:09 pm
He doesn't want to keep up the charade, he wants to let everyone know that he's always around no matter what, and that at any point he can stir up the pot and cause a ruckus.

He comes back every now and then to mess with everyone and he uses the same "gotcha, I was actually testing and manipulating you," argument, and he doesn't even believe it, he just uses it as a tactic to keep everyone riled up a bit more after his inevitable and imminent ban.

And people eat it up every time. The only way he'll stop is if everyone sees his post and just literally ignores him. He'll likely then scream for attention a different way, though.

But like I said many moons ago: It's not trolling if you're the only one that looks stupid.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 11, 2015, 12:23:45 pm
dude has some developmental issues, thats for sure, no one spends years trying to argue the stupidest things while coming across as a racist inbred hick on purpose. And lets not kid ourselves even if he says he was "pretending" he is still the one going on about goys and about black people being inferior. Hjk is racist through and through.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 12, 2015, 12:30:20 am
So uh, Jigiba. I was talking with Jango about the whole situation last night and how we didn't think it was very likely at all that he was secretly hjk all along, and maybe shouldn't have been banned (at least, for that specific thing?), but I figured it could wait until tomorrow. Then this happens. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2147177)

I think it's incredibly improbable that this dummy was actually hjk all this time: his posts and writing don't resemble hjk's writing style at all; his beliefs and manner of arguing were radically different to hjk's; and hjk's alt accounts were all used in exactly the same way (a recently created account, that began posting pretty quickly, and making very little effort to hide its identity), in contrast to the Jigiba account (which was a 3 year old account that only had a few posts until recently). I mean, it's still entirely possible that it was hjk all along, like maybe he rediscovered and old, discarded account and decided to use it in a different way than he normally does, but it's pretty specious. It seems a lot more likely that Jigiba was just responding to the deluge of posts accusing him of being hjk in his normal, facetious way of posting, signing off under a fake name. And then when he does get banned for it he immediately backs out of the claim through Twitter.

So basically, I don't really like the idea of permabanning the guy for (probably) falsely claiming to be hjk, I guess. But on the other hand, dude was clearly, obviously heading to a permaban just because of his awful, wretched posts? I dunno I just feel a little uncomfortable about the way it all played out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 12, 2015, 12:33:59 am
I still stand by my decision to perma him even if it was basically taking the bait. I can't name anybody off the top of my head who writes huge fucking walls of nonsense like that who come back from being banned and actually amend their ways. All of them revert to their old shitty selves and get banned again or just ragequit so there's not really much of a reason to bother.

That and there's also the fact that he made it pretty clear that he didn't give a fuck about what he was doing so hey. Now he's gotta find some other unsuspecting forum to terrorize.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 12, 2015, 01:01:47 am
I was considering discussing this too. I really don't like perma bans. Jigiba really hasn't done enough to warrant a perma if he's not HJK. And I've been at the other end of those group slaughterings. You can easily get into an IDGAF mentality and say some dumb things to all these anonymous people you don't really know.

I mean he still didn't answer in a way that was acceptable to not be banned. But I don't think he should be perma'd I'd actually still just put him on the 3 day ban and throw him in the cycle. He'd either post better, not post at all, or act up again and get longer bans.

I don't feel he'd get much attention after the lessons learned in his recent posts. And what disruptions he may make would become further and further apart. And much shorter.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 12, 2015, 01:06:38 am
Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 12, 2015, 01:15:46 am
claiming to be hjk is not something I consider normal, if you want to keep him on shorter bans start him with 10 days.  Makes no sense to give him the same ban time you give for slaps on the wrist.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 12, 2015, 01:19:28 am
No problems with that either. More thoughts? If changes are made we can make them tomorrow to give mods time to chime in.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 12, 2015, 01:28:15 am
claiming to be hjk is not something I consider normal, if you want to keep him on shorter bans start him with 10 days.  Makes no sense to give him the same ban time you give for slaps on the wrist.
I don't think Jigiba had any idea who hjk was (it's pretty inside baseball with regards to this forum), and only did it to annoy the people who kept insisting to him that he was, in fact, hjk.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on August 12, 2015, 01:37:53 am
if its really not him just reinstate the original warning and apologize
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 12, 2015, 10:00:13 am
Thats proposterous, in thread someone had already explained who hjk was and that he was a banned member that argued similarly to what he was doing, he still choose to pretend he was hjk after he wasnt able to keep the conversation. Theres nothing to apologize when he is the one portraying himself as someone he knows is banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 12, 2015, 02:26:12 pm
Even without that I had already mentioned here to ban him if he didn't respond with a legit discussion and more tactful tone. No reason for apologizing. "Oh, sorry. We banned you because we thought you were HJK. We were wrong. We should have banned you for not following moderator instructions instead."

Where's Person Man in this. I'm sure he's the most afflicted. Poor sap is probably traumatized!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 12, 2015, 02:27:44 pm
"Oh we are so sorry we banned you for claiming to be a banned individual after learning said individual was banned, it wont happen again bohohoho, please forgive us, btw you are banned fo rbeing a bad goyim."
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 12, 2015, 09:32:19 pm
Thats proposterous, in thread someone had already explained who hjk was and that he was a banned member that argued similarly to what he was doing, he still choose to pretend he was hjk after he wasnt able to keep the conversation. Theres nothing to apologize when he is the one portraying himself as someone he knows is banned.
I don't think he really understood the full gravity of hjk's whole deal. Which is all besides the point, because people shouldn't get banned for jokingly referring themselves to a banned user.

I don't think we need to apologize at all, but the ban shouldn't be a permanent one. I think 10 days is a good amount for violating JNP's warning.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 12, 2015, 09:37:29 pm
Updated him to 10 9 days. Left a note that 1st ban was 10 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 14, 2015, 05:33:54 am
Warned Frybread Dojo (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/frybread-dojo-86155) because he's having a melt down.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2148196
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 14, 2015, 02:28:21 pm
3 day ban for continuing to disrupt the thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 14, 2015, 02:37:24 pm
This is Frybread Dojo after his meltdown:
Good, good job, did you really have to call me a moron, i was just about to get calm, you think that you can talk shit about me, well think again, there is a reason i stay inside all day, you should have said guy instead i wouldn't have gotten so mad if you said that, but no, you called me a moron, and you don't know who im related to, do you know what its like, you should have listened to the others, its done now, my fury has been breached, Just No Point calmed me down, the nice way if you will, but doing what you did is wrong, its like a bully's way to treat somebody, the last person that did that, i talked him down abit, but don't you feel good to call me a moron, its people like you that do things that causes people like me to do stupid things, and i feel real tempted to go do something thats not so good, im just sitting here listening to Battletoads Double Dragon music, then i decide to come and take a look around, im glad that i did, i need to stop derailing this thread, but as long as you keep talking your shit towards me, its not gonna happen, i just keep coming back, why? because i love fighting, and more importantly i love winning, it feals good, like when i beat the turbo tunnel in battletoads, it felt good, i was happy, and i see other people who can't even beat that stage, it makes me feel awesome inside, but then there is this, its great isn't it, a moron is a stupid one, i can assure you, im far from stupid, as a matter of fact, i am very smart, but the one you down talks people, i am not so sure about, leave those alone that wish for it to be that way, like me, can you do that, if you will, just calm yourself, before i get raging again, its not a good feeling, there isn't many nice people left in this world, and i can see you aren't one of them, just be nice to those around you, its a good thing, i am not one who goes around doing stupid things like beating people up, its not right, but when i get mad, i really want to, its the inner me that can control the anger inside, but its very hard, its not easy either, so just calm down, pretend i don't exist, and best of all, carry on with this topic, let Chuchoryu release his chars with ease, let him learn from his mistakes, thats all i have to say to you people, please understand, i just need a good time by my self.
He's earned himself a 3 day ban and a post limit, imo.

Edit: :ninja:'ed
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 16, 2015, 12:00:54 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/cheetos-83518

Warned
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 16, 2015, 01:49:52 am
Scratch that
Quote
Rude and disruptive ? Where I asked a question and somebody assumed I was being rude its true some of u guys are crybabys and take this the things said to heart like its mugen man come on u don't own me or this site Its freedom of speech and I should be able to voice my opinion especially on a fucking gaming website y'all dudes need a chill pill
Banned
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 22, 2015, 09:36:28 pm
I forget if we enforce that age thing or not because this user is 11 and already proving that they're gonna need more time before they can use the forum properly. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/loganthekids-86567)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 22, 2015, 09:45:43 pm
2 years I would say. =\ he's too young to be around unsupervised.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on August 23, 2015, 12:04:32 am
I sort of agree, my lil bro is 10 I wouldn't want him running around here


and sadly he acts basically the same as that when it comes to the Internet.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on August 23, 2015, 12:23:14 am
The one rare instance where we actually have to think of the children.

I concur that we probably shouldn't let him stay.  It is technically against the rules, and more to the point this is most definitely not a place an 11 year old kid should be hanging around.  Have you seen the creeps they have running this forum?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 23, 2015, 12:28:53 am
Consensus to ban for two years, then. Any objections or no?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 23, 2015, 05:03:43 am
Ban for two years. No kids! We can't have them and their wacky hijinx running loose!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on August 23, 2015, 05:43:35 am
go ahead
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on August 23, 2015, 06:08:31 am
nice ban +1
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 23, 2015, 06:10:01 am
Done.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 23, 2015, 02:49:36 pm
I'm looking for where I can change the age for the sign up terms now. I swore I'd found it in the past but that may have been on the olf version of the forum when I was admin years back.

I asked Iced. If neither of us can find it I'll probably have to get Valodim to do
Edit: it's a Val thing
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 23, 2015, 05:28:37 pm
Man, you're stupid. Holy shit.

What do you do for a living and does it, at the very least, require some strain on your intellect?



I laughed because this was supposed to make me upset.

Regards,
HJK
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 29, 2015, 12:32:42 am
PMed xhominid  (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/xhominid-54342) a warning because he had another melt down. This one was in the SFV thread.
Depending on the severity of potential future fits warn or 3 day ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 08, 2015, 12:38:48 am
Things were very quickly heading towards [WlanmaniaX] being banned; maybe this will hopefully get him to get his act in order?
ME AM WRONG AGAIN (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2159036)

so basically: Wlan was wishlisting again, he got reported, and then edited out the wishlisting part. I have no idea what action, if any, should be taken here. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 08, 2015, 03:43:42 am
Give him a warning (probably via PM) to stop wishlisting and add a note that editing his wishlisting out isn't exactly good form. He should know better than to wait until he's reported to edit it out like it never happened.

If he does it again, consider dropping the hammer.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 08, 2015, 03:46:03 am
Yeah, it's been 3 months. Might as well warn him. If he does it again though, 3 day ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 08, 2015, 03:47:56 am
3 day ban.
Are we not implementing the increasing ban lengths for this? It seems reasonable to extend the ban since he's already been banned for this shit in the past; especially if we're gonna warn him before actually considering another ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 08, 2015, 03:50:52 am
Forgot he'd been banned. Yeah. I just didn't want to word everything exactly as you so I added the "3 day" before ban =p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 08, 2015, 03:54:05 am
Yo Jmorph you gonna do the warning? I was considering doing it myself but I already took action against him last time and idk if that'd make me seem like an asshole. :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 08, 2015, 04:47:40 am
I didn't think he deserved any punishment. The edit seemed like an akward but well intended way to avoid trouble.

...then I remembered what he's been doing the last few days and it became obvious that Wlan has developed a taste for hiding his mistakes.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 08, 2015, 08:21:51 am
Yo Jmorph you gonna do the warning? I was considering doing it myself but I already took action against him last time and idk if that'd make me seem like an asshole. :P
Whoops, sorry, was busy. I sent him a PM.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on September 08, 2015, 12:47:08 pm
So Trinitronity is back and announced his arrival by loudly proclaiming he does not intend to follow the rules (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2159441) if they are once again enforced on him.

He hasn't actually done anything yet, but this makes me feel like we're going to need to keep an eye on him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 08, 2015, 02:58:07 pm
He's practically begging for a perma. So when he begs again just ban him for a year (that's next for him right?)
I want him to have to come back after his cycle each time to personally renew his bans knowing we won't perma him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 08, 2015, 03:38:33 pm
who? what did he get banned over?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 08, 2015, 05:41:56 pm
tl;dr constantly refusing to actually be a decent poster in spite of numerous warnings and arguing about the post limit after being warned to stop trying to circumvent it. I wouldn't be against permabanning him if he's really gonna be a complete shitheel about returning from a six month ban. He's not going to improve or listen now, so why even give him the opportunity to draw this much attention towards his horrible posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 08, 2015, 06:44:32 pm
But but we can't let him get his way!

Nah, actually you're right. Next ban he gets just give him what he wants. I like to think time can make someone different (for better or worse) but he's seeming to become ONLY problematic and has so much contempt for us that I don't know if he'd ever let it go.

I tried so hard to reach the little bugger too ;_;
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 08, 2015, 06:52:48 pm
With that in mind, I'm gonna be dropping the hammer on him next time he disrupts a topic like this. Any objections or nah
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 08, 2015, 07:34:03 pm
No, and I have no problems with giving him the perma ban he supposedly wants down the line in case this pops up again. because that means we don't have to deal with him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 09, 2015, 12:29:17 am
He's practically begging for a perma. So when he begs again just ban him for a year (that's next for him right?)
I want him to have to come back after his cycle each time to personally renew his bans knowing we won't perma him.
I agree, no need to break out a permaban on someone as relatively harmless as Trin.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 25, 2015, 06:19:05 pm
Verz got a warning.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2166758
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 27, 2015, 02:13:47 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2167255

banned for 30 days.
If you feel the lenght is non warranted just say so.

Persuaded to reduce it to six days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 27, 2015, 03:09:16 pm
I read it as a joke too. So I'm not feeling the ban but no more than 3 days if it's sticking.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 27, 2015, 08:22:40 pm
well i had took it as  bait towaords byakko, if byakko himself doesnt seem to care about it then maybe it can go.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 27, 2015, 09:38:05 pm
That whole thread became an aggressive mess real quick anyway. I saw the post as a mockery of the thread in general. Id go ahead and remove the ban as a misunderstanding.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on September 28, 2015, 12:02:38 am
I'm fine with the ban. Bait like that is jackassery no matter how I look at it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 28, 2015, 12:32:09 am
It still didn't feel like bait to me. It looks like exaggerated parody. Who was he baiting? Everybody was cussing everybody in that thread :p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 28, 2015, 12:37:26 am
It really doesn't look like bait at all and I think a ban (of any length) for that post is completely unwarranted.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 28, 2015, 12:50:23 am
remove the ban
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 28, 2015, 04:01:34 am
Looks like the ban has been removed by someone. I was going to remove it and noticed it was gone. I hope no further hate was formed from thehatethathatemade. Cause that'd be a ton of hate.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 03, 2015, 03:53:30 am
jermboy is back to making characters so he can get off to people bashing them (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/evil-barney-155744.0.html), or something. Told him to cut it out because he keeps doing this, ignores people telling him to stop, and got banned over it before. Should be like, 3 months, at least, the next ban.
guess what happened again (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/dr-nobel-price-169516.0.html)

Only did a week long ban though, since it's been 2 years.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 03, 2015, 09:36:23 pm
Deleted two jerm buoy accounts.
edit: third one. He keeps re registering.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 04, 2015, 05:51:32 am
Yikes! Made the ban 6 months, but I could see it going even longer.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 11, 2015, 10:54:55 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/banned-no-reason-mffa--169708.new.html#new

this user has been permabanned in the past for attention whoring right? because as far as I can see, that is what he is doing here. he has also made other similar bad topics I've been forced to shitcan.

what do yall think?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 11, 2015, 11:08:24 pm
Yeah, he's still pretty bad. I think MFFA was right to ban him on sight, we should follow their example.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 12, 2015, 12:21:11 am
He's not seeming to be that bad to me so far.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 12, 2015, 12:23:16 am
Warning seems fine for now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 12, 2015, 12:41:53 am
Warn. He's on the fast-track to being perma'd again but eh no skin off our backs if it happens.

Any reason why that post was edited by Iced btw or (http://prntscr.com/8q9jlx)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 12, 2015, 12:44:21 am
removed advice on how to ban evade.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 12, 2015, 12:55:37 am
What the fuck. Yeah ban him next time he pulls this shit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 12, 2015, 12:59:22 am
It wasnt him giving the advice, it was Gara. I removed the text both in gara original post and the quote.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 12, 2015, 01:00:34 am
Nvm I guess I missed that part as well don't mind me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 12, 2015, 02:20:25 am
Banned Rei for 3 days
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/why-mugen-168691.msg2173238.html;topicseen#msg2173238
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 12, 2015, 02:22:26 am
Sounds good.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 12, 2015, 02:24:46 am
Well-deserved.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 12, 2015, 04:09:48 am
Quote
Or what? Masa' wha you won me to do eh? Why must I explain myself to you. Who are you? A nobody. A person on the internet, just like the rest of us. If you realize how pointless this is why are you so compelled & drawn into something that had nothing to do with you. Same as any others. As if I don't understand logic, some of you are "trying" to hard to get your point across & for what? None of what we say means anything on the internet. Nothing you say is going to change shit. We acknowledge what we want to. Especially after I had said it was intentional.
We should probably update the main rules to add a clause about posting liken Jaden Smith.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 12, 2015, 04:24:37 am
i'm glad i was at a potluck while this was occuring, i would've had a field day with this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 12, 2015, 06:49:23 pm
Banned Memo and his double account. Merge both:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/memo-79817
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/zordon-85048
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 12, 2015, 07:04:10 pm
A few months ago me and a few other mods were talking about this with Memo and it seemed like maybe this was the rare case where it was really two people who shared an IP address (because they know each other in real life)? I dunno, it wasn't as clear cut as it usually was, so no action was taken.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 12, 2015, 07:29:28 pm
How long is the ban? This seems way too harsh. I'm against it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 12, 2015, 07:31:44 pm
The usual three days for the main, apparently nonexistent for Zordon. I'm of a mixed opinion since the alt account was made for a silly reason to begin with but as everybody else seems to like bringing up it hasn't posted anything for ten months.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 12, 2015, 07:33:54 pm
...three days.

You know you could've checked that yourself, right?

Edit: 'Zordon' wasn't banned because the ban would be irrelevant after merging both accounts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 12, 2015, 08:42:15 pm
i was on mobile, sorry
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 13, 2015, 06:44:37 am
So are we gonna do anything or just let the ban run out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 13, 2015, 10:21:52 am
If they have admitted to be the same I think we should still merge them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 13, 2015, 01:51:26 pm
I unbanned memo. I'm on phone so I can't merge the accounts but I will in an hour or so. Also to note when banning don't do the full ban. Do partial bans with all 3 options checked. This way the users can still see the forums.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 13, 2015, 02:31:09 pm
merged accounts
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 13, 2015, 09:23:37 pm
If they have admitted to be the same I think we should still merge them.
I don't think that ever happened? And sometimes their IP addresses did differ? It's not really clear cut.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 13, 2015, 09:38:20 pm
Kinda late now :/
I don't look into these things too much. So I rely on you guys to tell me if you have doubts. Everything i'd read said memo admitted and everybody already knew zordon was an alt. if there is doubt on these things we can't be banning or merging. So always be sure to speak up. I'd rather risk someone having an alt than banning/merging legit accounts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 13, 2015, 09:48:12 pm
I posted as soon as I could today!!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 13, 2015, 09:49:19 pm
Yeah uh http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2173473
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 13, 2015, 09:52:52 pm
I posted as soon as I could today!!!
Your posted yesterday too!!! You worded that one differently so it didn't look like you were saying you still thought he was different :p

Thanks xan. I feel a lot better seeing that
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 13, 2015, 10:09:10 pm
oh well, lol

Your posted yesterday too!!! You worded that one differently so it didn't look like you were saying you still thought he was different :p
I wasn't sure either way, today or yesterday!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 13, 2015, 10:10:40 pm
I figured there was some reason Paul took ten months or however long to say this so yeah.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 15, 2015, 02:55:17 pm
can you atleast put a damn SPOILER about the comics for people who haven't caught up yet? c'mon now, i was planning on catching up soon to see what happens to him, thanks alot, ugh.

Sorry ma boi, but that's just me.
That'll be you getting banned if you keep up that attitude. Use spoiler tags to discuss the stuff going on in comics. Don't be a dick head. It's not hard.
Warning given
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 15, 2015, 09:46:10 pm
I could swear I warned him, but after checking my inbox and that thread the only thing I found was this:
Don't request stuff to be made for you, it's rude.
That doesn't change the fact that he has derailed Darkwolf's thread multiple times and been told to stop by other staff members:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/projects-re-darkwolf13s-mvc2-s-b-p-cable-tsunamidusher-released-1-custom-wip-169182.0.html

He's earned himself his first ban, imo.
tl;dr ban NANDUS for consistently derailing Darkwolf's thread and ignoring numerous staff warnings y/n.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 15, 2015, 09:53:38 pm
I think we should give him his final ultimatum warning 1st. Basically tell him if he does it again he'll be banned.
I'm not seeing an intent to cause trouble. More like he's seeming obtuse.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 16, 2015, 01:55:09 am
Another alternative since he only seems to do this in that particular thread would be to ban him from that thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 16, 2015, 02:07:25 am
Can we even logically enforce that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 16, 2015, 02:12:24 am
Yes we have the ability to thread ban. I think global mods have it. Haven't you done this @JMorphMan: ?  Or was it admin only?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 16, 2015, 04:00:03 am
We don't, Jmorphman is all bark.

...no, we seriously don't have a button for that. I asked the same question a few months ago and Iced said it was an admin only feature.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 16, 2015, 04:16:34 am
And with that in mind considering they're still fucking going at it (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/projects-re-darkwolf13s-mvc2-s-b-p-chunli-jill-new-fighter-wip-169808.0.html) despite yet another person telling them to stop I'm still edging towards a ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 16, 2015, 04:23:47 am
Yeah. I wish we'd sent that PM warning but he's really not listening. I'm having trouble finding the topic ban function. I found where I can see if he's banned from topics. But not where to ban him. Since Iced isn't online to ask him I'll go for the 3 day ban to give us time to figure it all out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 16, 2015, 04:26:46 am
Good enough. It's been a long time coming.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 16, 2015, 05:04:27 am
Yes we have the ability to thread ban. I think global mods have it. Haven't you done this @JMorphMan: ?  Or was it admin only?
I don't recall ever doing that; I vaguely sorta remember discussing it (specifically about how it wasn't possible for a gmod), but that's about it.

We don't, Jmorphman is all bark.
I'm not all bark! I've got lots of bite!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 16, 2015, 05:05:09 am
I don't recall ever doing that; I vaguely sorta remember discussing it (specifically about how it wasn't possible for a gmod), but that's about it.
iirc Trinitronity was involved when you last mentioned this. Wasn't he constantly nagging you in your WIP thread or something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 16, 2015, 05:07:41 am
Yeah, I told him not to post there anymore. I guess that technically qualifies as a topic ban!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 16, 2015, 05:17:44 am
So maybe we don't have this feature? I thought trinitronity was banned from your topic as well. And someone from a HDBZ thread. I forget who that was. And I can look in people's profiles and it gives me a list of topics the users are banned in. (Though checking trinitronity as I type this it says he has no topic bans either)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 16, 2015, 06:42:42 am
"view topic bans"? I can check that one too, but it's useless.

Speaking of useless features, what's this supposed to be: http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=moderate;area=userwatch and why does it consider users that haven't logged in 7+ years as 'recently watched'?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 16, 2015, 12:55:52 pm
deprecated funcionality it seems, most of those people were "ENEMIES OF THE REICH" back when the major black lists and stuff like that were in place.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 17, 2015, 01:49:14 am
Banned shinrei for a week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 17, 2015, 01:51:02 am
Dude you're a little too quick on the trigger there I don't think he was even gonna continue the argument after nobody took his grand return seriously.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 17, 2015, 01:55:31 am
I have no problem with it. He just got unbanned and immediately continued where he left off.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 17, 2015, 01:56:19 am
Check jnp's last post in pm discussion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 17, 2015, 01:57:19 am
Guess that post went in one ear and died before I could take it in. Previous statement redacted.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 17, 2015, 04:20:08 am
Check jnp's last post in pm discussion.
Ooops, just to let everyone know it seems I didn't set an expiration date for ShinRei's ban. So he was banned an extra day. Figured I'd mention this in private so there wouldn't be public parties :P

Anyway, I ended his ban so if he comes in repeating the same crap throw him in on ban 2 for a week. Or even a month since he'd be coming back doing exactly what he was banned for.

Posting for transparency purposes since it doesn't matter now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 17, 2015, 04:20:58 am
And now the public parties begin.

When he's unbanned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 19, 2015, 07:58:42 am
Banned NANDUS again for being deliberately obtuse and continuing the same jackassery that got them banned in the first place. This one's a week long. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2175862)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 30, 2015, 11:52:30 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/oak-the-shadow-dragon-170162.0.html

So from everything I'm reading and his attitude I'm actually wondering if he should be banned?

Or at least we may want to "black list" his site from the forum?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 31, 2015, 01:03:56 am
He didn't respond to my warning (JNP edited the links regardless) so I'm tempted to agree with a quick ban. That shitty attitude isn't exactly helping either.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 31, 2015, 03:08:43 am
I think one more warning, spelling out that a ban will follow if this behavior continues, should happen before anything else.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 31, 2015, 03:41:26 am
i think gennos needs a reminder to not be such a dick unnecessarily.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 31, 2015, 02:59:38 pm
I think one more warning, spelling out that a ban will follow if this behavior continues, should happen before anything else.
Sounds good.

i think gennos needs a reminder to not be such a dick unnecessarily.
Anything in particular or do I need to take a look at his recent post history?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 31, 2015, 04:51:17 pm
recent post history works, its nothing to the extent of rulebreaking but he is straddling a fine line between mocking and straight up harassing.

"lol at dem milestones. if you pledge 100 dollars, you'll be rewarded with all his valuable rewards and a cheap scrubby char built just for you, in case you're too much of a pussy to win with normal ones in a balanced fight. excellent"

"???
also, am i the only one who finds this thread weird? this kid shat out almost 60 portraits today for no reason or useful purpose, with some characters that don't even exist in MUGEN, he's on a whole new level of autism.
he just roboticly puts them out and demands no "frills" and no criticism."

"you know what's so cringy about this post? it's not the fact the he's expressing a deep love for a mugen char, nor that he spent 6 months doing god knows what to it, or even making facebook a verb.
it's the fact the he lined up so many fucking commas and space characters right next to each other."

"this is an embarrassing post. if you want to get back at him, try to make fun of his cynical nature. copy his avatar and try to come up with something clever that you would think he'd say. no really, i demand you try it, be funny for once in your life."

he is trying to hard to be edgy and critical.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 31, 2015, 05:06:22 pm
"???
also, am i the only one who finds this thread weird? this kid shat out almost 60 portraits today for no reason or useful purpose, with some characters that don't even exist in MUGEN, he's on a whole new level of autism.
he just roboticly puts them out and demands no "frills" and no criticism."

Besides this one of those examples none of them seem out of line to me. And I addressed this one.

I think with him it's still the the negative to positive ratio that's making some of these feel worse than they are?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 31, 2015, 05:08:26 pm
yeah i dont think any of them are that bad, he's just being a prick and that can lead to going overboard if left unchecked.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 31, 2015, 05:10:34 pm
He reads this area so this should be sufficient enough at his current level.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 31, 2015, 08:39:20 pm
Banned Shadowdragon6060
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 31, 2015, 08:47:15 pm
Great. Now we're just as bad as SaiyanIsland!!! All we do is talk and hate :(

Going to just throw the thread in the trash now. Don't see how it can be useful even in the shit thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on October 31, 2015, 09:23:50 pm
I hate it when kids like him fall victim to that "haters and trolls" mindset and convince themselves that everything they do and say is awesome, and that anyone who says anything even remotely negative towards them is only doing so out of jealousy.  They get so explosively defensive at anything less than glowing praise at all times.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on October 31, 2015, 09:26:38 pm
I for one am proud of being disregarded if it means people react like complete jackasses about it. Good show.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 07, 2015, 12:31:59 am
Banned Shadowdragon6060
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/shadow-dragon-version-2-170363.msg2182406.html;topicseen#msg2182406

If his next post is anything but damage control, he should be banned for a week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on November 07, 2015, 12:41:02 am
For now he hasn't said anything as of yet, but he's gaining a lot of attention for that so-called "test" of his. If he comes back and tries to promote that "test" (or rather anything else that involves what happened last time), I'll be happy to give him a time out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on November 07, 2015, 12:58:59 am
He is playing that "persecuted brony" card super hard.  I wonder how he'd react if I was the one dishing out the warnings
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on November 07, 2015, 01:37:25 am
I'd love to see that in action.

Also if Rei (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2182216) makes another post like this I'm banning him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 07, 2015, 01:39:09 am
I dont have any issue with either course of action,good job guys
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on November 07, 2015, 01:44:30 am
I definitely feel Rei should be banned just for once again immediately making an incendiary post right after he was unbanned. He immediately attacked and derided a moderator at that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on November 07, 2015, 02:01:41 am
I'll give him until tomorrow. If he doesn't post again, ban just to help enforce that little ragequit of his. If he posts again and he doesn't clean up his act, ban. I'm not a fan of going back on warnings like that so I hope this is a good enough compromise.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 07, 2015, 02:06:13 am
I don't think we should ban him yet. While his...defensive and unlikable posting style hasn't changed, it wasn't entirely unwarranted this time; he was name dropped in a thread and felt the need to tell his side of the story, that's what a normal person would do. It's not a crazy rant like the last time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on November 07, 2015, 02:08:42 am
I'll just give him a couple of days. Any chaos ensues, you know what to do.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on November 07, 2015, 02:45:16 am
Banned Shadowdragon6060
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/shadow-dragon-version-2-170363.msg2182406.html;topicseen#msg2182406

If his next post is anything but damage control, he should be banned for a week.

All the adfly bull crap he has and everything he's done makes me want to just up and ban. This guy seems like a troll. As unusual as it sounds I wouldn't mind just ignoring the ban cycle and perm-ing him at this point. He's shown zero signs of being a decent poster or any sort of help/contribution.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on November 07, 2015, 05:57:00 am
I don't think he's a troll, just really dense. Like, black hole dense. I don't think he's gonna change, so I'm not opposed to ban him, but I think we've been more lenient with equally bad shitposters in the past.

...But then again, adfly links.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on November 07, 2015, 07:34:43 am
So as of recent development, that "Shadow Dragon" release turned out to be a farce. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2182588) Which means that all that talk about "password", "tests", etc. is all worthless.

Any thoughts about this? I'm considering giving ShadowDragon6060 a timeout for linking ad revenue that leads to a damaged file.
Nvm, Rice made a mistake. Still, something seems kinda.. off about the file.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 07, 2015, 08:46:55 am
I don't think Rei needs to be banned right now either.

All the adfly bull crap he has and everything he's done makes me want to just up and ban. This guy seems like a troll. As unusual as it sounds I wouldn't mind just ignoring the ban cycle and perm-ing him at this point. He's shown zero signs of being a decent poster or any sort of help/contribution.
Eh, I think the current system is fine for him. If he posts a link to adfly he will be banned for double the amount of time he was last banned; he doesn't need warnings after this either.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 13, 2015, 08:04:24 pm
For posterity's sake: Yamcha8 has been permabanned. Yamcha/Goku6 used to bombard the help sections with questions about very simple things, always ignoring the responses and solutions to those problems, instead posting new threads about the same questions, and then PM'ing people and cursing them out for not explaining things fast enough (fast enough here means under 30 minutes).

smell ya later
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on November 17, 2015, 02:40:14 am
Had to ban SD for 3 days
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2185898
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on November 30, 2015, 08:03:55 pm
Banned Tabris666 for 3 days
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2190296

Make it a month if he comes back and does the same crap.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 03, 2015, 12:36:46 am
Warned NANDUS (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2190927) for doing the same thing that got him banned already. So far, it seemed harmless, but I'm waiting it out to see if he's ignoring the warning or just being obnoxious.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 03, 2015, 01:00:46 am
Ban him. I already said he was on his last warning via PM last time he pulled this shit. Two weeks or so seems fair.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 03, 2015, 01:08:05 am
I already had a talk with Iced about this. A ban out of this (according to him) seems too much, so I'm just playing the waiting game.

But if you want me to go straight ahead and ban him, then 2 weeks will be fine.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 03, 2015, 03:09:32 am
he already had a last warning? If thats the case Xan might be right in doing it.
As I said, its preferable to discuss this with the whole staff. ( I wasnt aware he had been warned as a last warning before over it )  Anyone else want to chime in?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 03, 2015, 03:26:59 am
We've handled him warnings like Jehova's Witnesses handle Watchtowers.

It's really shitty because the guy has no ill intentions, but the language barrier + apparent lack of social skills is an awful combo and we can't let him shit Darkwolf's thread indefinitely.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 03, 2015, 04:04:58 am
he already had a last warning? If thats the case Xan might be right in doing it.
Yeah that was me forgetting to let y'all know. I guess I figured I'd be around to catch him next time he posted but I wasn't. Still pushing to hand him a ban but eh.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 03, 2015, 04:10:07 am
I'm giving him a couple of hours (let's say... midnight or early morning tomorrow, due to time zones) to respond anyway. If he doesn't respond by then (or did but continues his shtick), then he's out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 03, 2015, 04:32:44 am
He didn't respond to my warning via PM so I wouldn't get your hopes up. Anybody else mind him being banned again or do y'all have objections.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on December 03, 2015, 04:48:31 am
No objections here.  Looking over the multitude of reported posts from this guy makes it pretty clear he's either genuinely incapable of understanding the warnings being given to him or deliberately ignoring them.  In either case I feel like he's earned another time-out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 04, 2015, 12:46:08 am
Okay, so I may have accidentally extended the waiting period on @NANDUS's response (I was at school while waiting). Regardless, his time to respond ran out, so: For doing the same shit he has always done in DarkWolf's thread, I gave him a 2 week vacation to banville.

Any Objections?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 04, 2015, 12:57:17 am
No objections.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 06, 2015, 08:25:52 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2192265

Removed ComboAssassin20's cursed status
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 06, 2015, 08:50:21 pm
...why?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 06, 2015, 08:56:56 pm
Well, he'd made that post saying how he'd changed and such and it'd been like 9 months.

Though it looks like my kindness is not going to be met in kind :(
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 06, 2015, 09:06:34 pm
I tried and doesn't work, this forum also sucks

curse me again
These clearly are the words of a man who had a change of heart and deserves all his privileges back.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 06, 2015, 11:08:30 pm
Here we go again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 06, 2015, 11:22:15 pm
Nope. The way he responds next will be it. It won't drag on again like last time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 12, 2015, 04:23:42 am
Just a note but expect Snakebyte (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=65800) to make a little dispute public. tl;dr Race PM'd me because he didn't want his Benimaru release posted here and I PM'd Snakebyte telling him to take it down, he refused and told me he'd go public against me if I took it down, and guess what I did.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 12, 2015, 04:26:49 am
Wait, you removed a leaked character?

EDIT: Not leaked, reread. Unanouncable release?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 12, 2015, 04:28:01 am
At the creator's request. I felt it was fair considering the character was leaked and unfinished. This was a special circumstance and I felt it was best to go along with Race's request in this situation.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 12, 2015, 04:29:00 am
Nope. We don't police releases. It'll open up too big a can of worms. It sucks that it was leaked but please restore the post.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 12, 2015, 04:30:46 am
That's that then. I'll go break the bad news to Race.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 12, 2015, 04:33:43 am
this isnt a leak.
http://infiniteff.forumotion.com/t533-all-chars-by-rce-akir-benimaru-released-12-7-15

I dunno what Race is going on about, but what Jnp said is right, we dont police releases.


The black list of things that cant be announced was abolished many years ago.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 12, 2015, 04:35:06 am
And also another reason is that I had no choice but to release it because the character was leaked so I had to go ahead and release it and I wasnt done yet.
It's a leak but eh.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 12, 2015, 04:40:00 am
Ignoring the logical leap, we don't police releases regardless of the circumstances.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 12, 2015, 04:46:46 am
He's taking feedback for this on MMV and seems to be requesting people to not post his releases on guild anymore.

Probably its something related to the comissioning incident with him a while back or with the alt account he had running for months.
Xan, if Race keeps contacting you about stuff like that, talk it out with the rest of the staff.


We dont honour any "do not announce at site X" demands from anyone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 12, 2015, 04:47:48 am
Guess every mod is allowed a few gaffes. I'll bring up decisions like this with the rest of you in the future.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 12, 2015, 04:50:35 am
It happens.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 12, 2015, 04:53:51 am
Still kinda bugs me that he went ahead and released his characters somewhere else, but when someone decides to release his characters in here, he goes "Nope" about it.

Oh well. A release is a release.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 20, 2015, 05:07:02 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/loves-pachirisu-86650

Banned for spamming
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 20, 2015, 07:47:17 pm
Should be permanent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 20, 2015, 08:42:25 pm
Just 3 days for a 1st ban. If he comes back and does it again extend to a month. Then if he comes back doing the same again push it to a year. After that perma
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 20, 2015, 08:50:22 pm
thats luigi, he has been banned several times already, for mutliple accounts and general spamming.  If im not mistaken that account is even one that was forgiven fro a perma, but someone correct me if im wrong.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 20, 2015, 08:50:41 pm
...we've perma banned him at least once for spamming (he's wegeeisgoingtokillm).

Edit: ninja'ed by Iced.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 20, 2015, 08:58:54 pm
Oh. I stand corrected. I didn't know that. Yeah perma
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 20, 2015, 09:14:58 pm
And nothing of value was lost.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 20, 2015, 10:42:16 pm
That was my line.

I won't lie to say that I saw this coming a mile away.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 20, 2015, 11:33:15 pm
That he'd spam a lot soon? Or just that he'd be banned? The latter didn't take a lot to see coming :P
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 24, 2015, 04:03:38 am
Thanks to current events of this thread (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/character-month-november-2015-voting-170945.msg2198051.html;topicseen#msg2198051), I'm thinking about giving Harrifra a post limit (like 1 or 2 posts a day). Any objections?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 24, 2015, 04:17:37 am
hes derailing a cotm thread, you should probably ban him straight up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 24, 2015, 05:03:51 am
That's honestly kind of a quick move to do, but if you're okay with the ban, might as well. Anyone else in on this?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 24, 2015, 05:07:30 am
Yeah I don't think a ban or a post limit is warranted at this point. One final, very stern warning about not double posting and posting off topic should suffice for now. After that a short ban.

Post limits shouldn't enter the discussion unless this is happening all over the forum.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 24, 2015, 05:17:17 am
That's honestly kind of a quick move to do, but if you're okay with the ban, might as well. Anyone else in on this?
a post limit is a harsher punishment than a first ban :|

Stern warning delivered.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 27, 2015, 10:40:56 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/darkwolf13s-mvc2-s-b-p-captain-america-wip-167326.msg2199187.html#msg2199187

Nandus was banned again for requesting characters in DarkWolf's thread.

I think this is ban 3? I set it for 30 days.

Let me know if he's higher than that and I'll adjust it...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 27, 2015, 11:07:26 pm
I think this is his fourth. Xan banned him 2 times before, I think.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 27, 2015, 11:31:55 pm
Yep, 4th ban. First was for 3 days, second was for 7, third was for 14, so 30 is good for this occasion.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on December 28, 2015, 01:51:58 am
We're not getting anywhere just banning him. This is ridiculous. :/
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 28, 2015, 05:31:34 am
Not enough trouble being caused to warrant anything else. It's all pretty minor so far.

But it sure would be useful to have topic bans.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 28, 2015, 05:39:28 am
Indeed. I really hate having to ban him for such MINOR things. But he's just so consistent and in the same thread that keeps leaving us with no options. Hell, if he'd just spread that around to the rest of the forum it wouldn't be as bad actually. Constantly doing it in the same thread no matter how many bannings and warnings to stop is just irritation overkill. More so to the thread starters and the people that want to contribute to the thread.

That's the only reason we even have to ban him cause like, it's the most ridiculous reasons for the harshest punishment we can dish out. But in this case we literally can't do anything else to make him cut it out :/
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 31, 2015, 11:26:03 am
Warned ji bak 3 times (over at PM) for necroing, requesting something to be made (something about an AI of Chipp Zanuff by Muteki), and double posting from the same thread. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/ai-patch-billy-two-moons-by-melvanainchains-153835.msg2200355.html#msg2200355) Looking at his past posts however, I believe he's been banned before for doing the same thing. Should I just go ahead with the ban, or wait it out?

Edit: Nvm, gave him a 3 day trip to banville.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 06, 2016, 11:00:54 pm
I banned Harrifa. He bad been warned plenty of times about multiposting and derailing threads.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 09, 2016, 09:28:11 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/silver-hedgehog-released-gladiacloud-171546.0.html

Does Gennos need a 3 day ban for stirring so much crap after he's had so many warnings in the past about his hostility and then ignoring what I told him in thread?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on January 09, 2016, 09:47:13 am
In this case (which what he did was really unnecessary), I think he needs one last warning to not be too aggressive with what just happened. If that doesn't work, 3 days will do.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on January 09, 2016, 05:20:02 pm
He's been warned plenty. A ban would do nicely.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: c001357 on January 09, 2016, 06:30:06 pm
id say hes been warned enough
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 09, 2016, 07:32:44 pm
3 day ban
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 10, 2016, 07:21:41 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/shadow-dragon-version-three-171474.msg2204012.html;topicseen#msg2204012

banned the gay pony guy for three days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 10, 2016, 07:24:09 pm
This is one of those rare times I don't think the ban cycle fits. The most optimistic I could be is to ban him for a year or 2 and maybe he'd out grow this. He has to be super young... he just HAS to!!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 11, 2016, 07:13:25 pm
Banned Helliori.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 27, 2016, 05:18:19 pm
Try to guess what it means. Yeah, it means "gays", he wanted to offend people.

7-1-25-19

Since he came back just to do this I'm skipping his 3 month ban and going to 6 months.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 06, 2016, 06:29:43 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2213763

Had to warn Mr. Key to not tell people to take releases down because they didn't ask permission.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 22, 2016, 02:20:30 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2219259
If Lord M derails some more or insults again ban him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 26, 2016, 09:20:01 pm
Lord M needed a time-out. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2221031)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 26, 2016, 09:51:56 pm
To be fair Xhominid was being quite hostile too. Though Lord M was on super thin ice and you just have to shut up or report the person instead of blowing up if you're that close to being banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 01, 2016, 03:36:16 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2222320

....out of line, extremely rude, definitely not behavior befitting of a release thread and the most we have is a little slap on the wrist that allows more arguing to continue? JNP you should've just told it to stop right after JZ's rant but even then I feel like if it had been a different person saying the exact same thing in a different release thread, there'd be some sort of punitive action taken. just because its chuchoryu doesn't mean feedback has to boil down to petty insults. normally i'm the first person to say this argument is bullshit, but its going to really reflect badly on this forum. respectful feedback is what we should be known for, that shows no quarter for mediocre work but still stays civil. saw NONE of that in JZ's post, and i really see none of that in chuchoryu release threads period. its the same couple people coming and screaming till they are blue in the face.

i've tried writing long posts about this before and it never seems to work, but that doesn't mean it should continue to be allowed. i think there should be a rule against feedback being "you fucking suck, you only release unfinished characters, you're a shitty fanfiction writer, you half-assed shovelware peddler, FUCK U!!," and i'd want this even if its only chuchoryu threads that are affected by it right now.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 01, 2016, 04:46:24 pm
Also, I should note that JZ's intentions in highlighting the problem of Chuchoryu's threads was not initially clear to me. I disagree with the method but agree with the message, there has to be a stop to the constant drama Chuchoryu's work engenders.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 01, 2016, 06:22:05 pm
i've tried writing long posts about this before and it never seems to work, but that doesn't mean it should continue to be allowed. i think there should be a rule against feedback being "you fucking suck, you only release unfinished characters, you're a shitty fanfiction writer, you half-assed shovelware peddler, FUCK U!!," and i'd want this even if its only chuchoryu threads that are affected by it right now.
If it'll stop the constant shit in Chucho's threads or at least put such in motion then I'd gladly back this idea.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 01, 2016, 06:45:42 pm
Yeah, okay. what do you suggest then?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 01, 2016, 06:54:01 pm
Just a clear and visible ruleset that stresses that disrespectful feedback based more on personal attacks and opinion than actual criticism of the character will no longer be tolerated
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 01, 2016, 06:56:05 pm
It has technically never been tolerated and many users have been banned over it. Do you feel that this case elicites a harsher punishment other than the warning jnp issued?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 01, 2016, 07:02:08 pm
We need to make it more clear that it ~technically~ isn't tolerated because we seem to be letting it slide a lot more than it should.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 01, 2016, 07:37:51 pm
It has technically never been tolerated and many users have been banned over it. Do you feel that this case elicites a harsher punishment other than the warning jnp issued?
Going forward, yes.
And thats why I said clearly defined and visible. Right now it only stands as an implicit rule, which makes it easier to be broken.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 01, 2016, 07:51:10 pm
If he'd continued to post that way it'd been more severe. I generally try to discuss with everyone no matter who they are. I don't think anything needs to be added to the rules for this. Just make sure something is said to the offender and if you need to start deleting posts. I wouldn't moved this to the shit thread but it's not a unique argument. It's the same old crap so the offtopics should be deleted.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 01, 2016, 08:48:03 pm
It has technically never been tolerated and many users have been banned over it. Do you feel that this case elicites a harsher punishment other than the warning jnp issued?
Going forward, yes.
And thats why I said clearly defined and visible. Right now it only stands as an implicit rule, which makes it easier to be broken.

I disagree?! We have always made a swift push of this rule, jnp might have decided to not use it in this case but its a very real known factor and several people been banned over it.

Its not like we need to go "not but for reals guy this rule is serious!"

Someone going into a release thread to just insult the creator has always resulted in a swift ban before. Even if the person insulting thinks they are doing a good thing.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 01, 2016, 09:07:37 pm
Are you totally delusional?

Have you looked at Chuchoryu or Wlanmaniax's threads?

There's no swift bans going on there.

So yes we absolutely need to make it known it's serious, not let people skirt around it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 01, 2016, 09:59:30 pm
I don't want swift bans either. If it's the same ppl doing it they still need to go through the warning processes before a ban is given. We don't want to become a big hug box as much as we don't want to be a forum full of ass holes.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 01, 2016, 10:34:31 pm
I don't want swift bans either. If it's the same ppl doing it they still need to go through the warning processes before a ban is given. We don't want to become a big hug box as much as we don't want to be a forum full of ass holes.
Where did I say hugbox though?

Original post said we need to still allow critical but RESPECTFUL feedback. Saying a character is terrible for x reasons doesn't count as a personal insult.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 01, 2016, 10:37:51 pm
But a person being offensive once in a thread and getting banned right away is a direction in the wrong direction. We moderate and discuss 1st. Only ban if the person is unwilling to adapt.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 01, 2016, 10:43:13 pm
Quote
There's no swift bans going on there.
And I thought we already did that? Ive banned people before for talking like that in chucho threads. I still think we should keep doing it to those that keep repeating it.

We do have an issue and its with the way it keeps happening , so maybe we need to have more bans or we need to find another solution like banning people from Chucho and co threads specifically if they show they arent mature enough to give feedback without being insultive.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 04, 2016, 04:02:23 am
As usual, you give me too much credit where it isn't due and not enough credit where it is.

I've accepted that you guys will try to perceive me as the villain, that you'll always take action when you see an "outburst" from me, and used that to my advantage here. I played you like a fiddle.


Apparently JZ insults to Chuchoryu were not just a case of him getting all heated up over it, and were actually him just "PLAYING THE STAFF LIKE A FIDDLE"

Jesuszilla has been banned for 15 days
feel free to discuss an actual lenght.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 04, 2016, 04:06:09 am
I'd say 3 days but at this point I'd compound the ban he apparently should have gotten in Chucho's thread.

He doesn't know how hard it is to try and defend him sometimes...
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 04, 2016, 04:07:34 am
im fine with two weeks, he should not have provoked like that when he was already getting away with the initial post :/
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 04, 2016, 04:08:37 am
One or two weeks sounds fine, mostly for that initial post in Chuchoryu's thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 04, 2016, 05:17:49 am
What was his plan there, exactly?  "I know you guys will try to ban me if I act like an asshole, so I'm going to act like an asshole on purpose to prove it!  Ha ha, you banned me!  I... win?"

Agreed on the ban length.  Ordinarily I'd say it ought to be lower for something like this, but coming right off the debacle in the Chuchoryu thread I'd say it's warranted in this case.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 04, 2016, 05:57:21 am
JZ's ban lenght is irrelevant since he'll likely avoid the forum for a few months anyways.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 05, 2016, 03:18:53 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/somebody-87698
Somebody may be needing a PM explaining they are not posting well and are being disruptive.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on March 05, 2016, 03:24:03 am
PM is sent. If he keeps this up, maybe a time out?

Edit: Also that nagging feeling of "somebody" being an alt of that one guy who calls himself "Dan_Hibiki" is still lingering in my mind. Anyone else had that feeling?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 05, 2016, 06:43:45 am
It's too early to be throwing names around. At most this guy's just a bit overeager. Can't really fault him for it.

EDIT: Holy shit talk about eating my words. Banned him for three days for disrupting topic after topic and deleting his posts when called out on them.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 05, 2016, 10:29:35 pm
People are asking for a post limit, but I think its a little early, even if he was banned.

Discuss
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on March 05, 2016, 10:31:34 pm
I don't think post limit will even affect him. Sure his post counts will be limited, but he might continue his shtick again even with post limits on.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 05, 2016, 10:33:54 pm
still seems like a normal kid that just found a new interest. just talk to him, im certain he can shift his posting methods a bit.

its way too early for any kind of mod action after that warning ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 05, 2016, 10:34:40 pm
Post limits aren't necessarily meant to curb the shtick. They are supposed to encourage they drop it through punishment, but it ultimately falls on the poster. Since in a lot of cases the shtick itself isn't bannable (except it apparently was in this case, I need to read the thread) the post limit serves just to make it so they cant annoy people as much.

I agree with Iced.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on March 05, 2016, 10:35:34 pm
Yeah I wasn't thinking of a post limit or anything else with what's going on. At the very least I'm hoping his time-out will give everybody some time to cool down so this doesn't happen again.

Also @Umezono the main reason I banned him was trying to sweep his posts under the rug combined with disrupting thread after thread. Just one of those things probably wouldn't have been worth such a quick ban on my part otherwise.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 05, 2016, 10:40:56 pm
he might have understood that the posts were making people angry so he tried to delete them. that seems the kind of logic someone that is new to forums would have.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on March 06, 2016, 04:20:14 am
The kid was clearly pretty desperate to get people to pay attention to him and he probably figured acting all "lol randumb" what the quickest way to do it.  And then when he realized that was only making people here mad at him, he tried to backpedal out of it.

Ordinarily I wouldn't say that in and of itself is ban-worthy, but like it's been said this time it was probably necessary just so we could get a second to clean up the mess.  I say when he gets back we try and make sure he understands the rules better, and if he doesn't give up the gimmick after that, then move on to a post limit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 09, 2016, 01:25:01 am
Well, looks like he found the way out (almost) all by himself.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 09, 2016, 01:27:05 am
I already deleted two extra accounts he tried to create.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on March 09, 2016, 01:55:12 am
Why does this keep on happening?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 09, 2016, 01:59:52 am
People feel embarassed by acting out of line in foruns and try to start out as someone new instead of just shifting a bit, they are used to games where they can just restart anything so its easier to use a new "guy" than to change themselves a bit with feedback.

(http://media3.giphy.com/media/K6VhXtbgCXqQU/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 17, 2016, 12:41:58 pm
Following this:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2219346

Banned Nio for a single day.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 10, 2016, 04:17:00 am
perma'ed ax (again)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 11, 2016, 02:43:22 pm
they're not using them to give money to ISIS you islamophobic ...
saudi arabia is the biggest USA ally in the middle east, and the majority of the people who had these accounts are politicians, which leads me to believe they're using them to hide their embezzled money most likely.
All good...
piece of shit.
Nope. Out of line. I see this again and you'll get a ban.
Warned Gennos. It hasn't been long since his last hostility ban so I almost banned him. But decided against. If he does it again ax him!

"Ax" what a fitting name
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 12, 2016, 04:55:52 am
It's been about 2 years since I gave Chamat the "no edit no delete" group for constantly wanting to remove old posts. He said he wouldn't do it again.  If you see him removing his history again anyway take action.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 15, 2016, 07:57:31 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2238134
This guy is cruisin' alright.
@Zemilia did you warn him last time he pulled a random insult out like that?

I warned him in PM. If he follows up like that or posts like that again it might be the 3 days of fun for him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on April 15, 2016, 10:44:49 pm
Yes I did (on PM). Seems like he didn't even read it (or considering his post, checked it).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 15, 2016, 10:53:08 pm
I figured as such. Good to know he's not really listening.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on April 18, 2016, 07:45:31 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/anybody-else-plays-happy-wheels-173583.0.html

Issued my final warning tot his guy, suspect he might just be too young/foreign to understand my warnings tho.

I actually don't think a post limit would accomplish much as he is hardly disruptive. But maybe a short ban for refusing to listen if he keeps this up.

For context to the viewing public, this user has repeatedly posted random thoughts with little bearing on topics, as well as double-triple posted these same thoughts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 18, 2016, 07:49:57 pm
He does seem really overeager. I'd probably say go for the 3 days if he doesn't listen to say Cyan who could probably shoot him a notice in Spanish if needed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on April 18, 2016, 09:07:03 pm
Yes. Try speaking to him in his native language to see if he understands. If he keeps it up, then IP ban his whole country.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 18, 2016, 10:35:13 pm
I presume it's more about his lack of forum netiquette than a language barrier issue, but I'll pm him if you think it's necessary.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 18, 2016, 10:50:58 pm
I think you're right but we want to make the effort at least.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 24, 2016, 06:16:13 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2240470

Is this the same dude that we are waiting on for him to list all of person man's horrid posts? That we already had to ban and lock his account editing abilities?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 24, 2016, 06:49:52 pm
Yes and no. Yes, he wanted to delete his own account and we removed some of his posting privileges at some point.  No, he isn't that argumentative weirdo who tought Person Man was the worst mod ever.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on April 24, 2016, 08:09:52 pm
IIRC, both of those dudes popped up around the same time causing the same problems, but they were separate people as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 24, 2016, 08:37:25 pm
I got the 2 mixed up but remembered he had the scorpion running avatar and that we had several issues with him for a bit. I'm on the fence whether to take anymore action against him since he's been dealt with before. I feel he made his username that long in an attempt to cause disruption. If we agree on that then he probably needs a profile lock or possibly another ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 25, 2016, 03:06:09 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111-81303
@Just No Point didn't you already change it from some disruptively long name earlier today? Because now it's this, and it looks even worse on the profile page.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 25, 2016, 03:32:53 am
Yep. Put him on a cursed status and ban him for 3-6 months. I don't even know what we could have did to make him upset again but I'm not putting up with him for a bit.

On phone or I'd do it all
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on April 25, 2016, 03:39:02 am
Set him to both cursed and a 3 month ban. I can set it longer, but I think 3 will do for now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 25, 2016, 04:00:56 am
Beats me what happened, I was at work!

Also I was gonna strip his display name down (that's clearly made to break the forum layout) but I saw no option to (though I missed the curse option because I wasn't looking for it; didn't think of it).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 25, 2016, 04:14:38 am
Changed it. Maybe gmods can't change usernames. Heck if I remember
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 25, 2016, 04:42:16 am
We used to have that power a long time ago. It disappeared during some forum upgrade, possibly the same one when we lost access to wordfilters. I kinda miss having access to wordfilters, some of those were real fun headscratchers (why's this asian girl pic filtered to two gay dudes?)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 25, 2016, 07:33:49 pm
It's probably stress from not being able to do any hobbies (mugen and comics are my getaway drug) but I'm losing my patience dealing with Lord M too.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2240856

He wasn't banned too long ago then this. And of course after I said something he tells me I can ignore what he says and shut up. I assume that was a blanket reply not necessarily directed just toward me but still...

Someone tell me if I'm letting stress get to me or if I'm not the only one here
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on April 25, 2016, 07:54:17 pm
I banned him for a month. Not opposed to extending it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 25, 2016, 08:02:58 pm
Sounds good to me

On the plus side I finally got my desk moved and put together. The electric outlet where my stuff would go didn't work so I replaced it. Just got to mow this yard and put this PC back together and I can start working on projects again so I can relax!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on April 25, 2016, 08:04:52 pm
If I may add, I don't think he cares to put up with your "good cop" act or any logical reasoning whatsoever. So it's not worth getting stressed out over. You're a busy enough person as it is to have to deal with petulant users like that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 25, 2016, 09:02:07 pm
How long was his previous ban? Was it two weeks or a month?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 25, 2016, 09:21:41 pm
I actually think it was just 3 days. Maybe a week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on April 25, 2016, 09:22:22 pm
It was a week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 25, 2016, 10:54:36 pm
Banned masterhand128.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 25, 2016, 11:09:45 pm
Now how will I get my hourly news on daniel
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 26, 2016, 09:25:07 pm
extemded his ban to a week after he started sending threatening pms to Daniel on other forums.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on April 26, 2016, 10:05:22 pm
wait wtf is going on with masterhand and daniel LOL
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on April 26, 2016, 10:10:16 pm
This is what's going on. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2241234)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 26, 2016, 10:14:06 pm
Basically more of what he usually does. He seems to not realize he's doing anything wrong unless a ton of people drill it into him simultaneously.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 26, 2016, 11:36:02 pm
wait wtf is going on with masterhand and daniel LOL
From what i gathered he's atracted to some kid named Daniel and started stalking him, when he brushed him off he started complaining to everyone that would listen about what a bad person the other one was, repeatedly, until Cyan told him to cut it out but he decided to turn that into a "See how im not complaining about daniel now, geez and here i was complaining so much about daniel! good thing thats over!" over and over again.

Once banned, he went to the other guy saying he would get his brother to have sex with him or something like that, I lost track of it eventually.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on April 26, 2016, 11:37:20 pm
His brother has come to rape us, though.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 26, 2016, 11:38:48 pm
He's that obvious, huh?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on April 26, 2016, 11:40:55 pm
Yep.

3 day ban, or just like his "brother", a week?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on May 18, 2016, 05:28:56 am
Throwing this up in the public warnings board:

http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2247348

Bastard Wolf's been warned plenty of times before about trying to push the limits of what's acceptable for sigs/avatars and this latest one included homophobic slurs directed at another user.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 22, 2016, 12:00:22 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2248510

banned this guy for a week. this conduct is not acceptable on this forum, especially over someone choosing to go private.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 22, 2016, 12:17:07 am
EDIT: while im at it

http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=87089
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15521
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=53530

Your blanket ban on a popular "bot email" seems to have caught some innocent users. I'll unban them unless there is an issue.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 22, 2016, 04:15:28 am
I see no problem unbanning all of those especially considering one of them is a semi-active contributor.

gmx.com and gmx.de are a legitimate email domain and not a disposable one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 22, 2016, 04:23:48 am
I was told that GMX allows users to continuously change their email names, which means they can keep re registering accounts with the same email for spamming. Thats why it was added to the disabled email service list.
Whoever has one can just change the email to a normal email provider and the account gets unlocked for posting unless someone had changed the ban to force it to prevent login.

this message "Invalid email, use a normal email server and not a spam mail. If you replace your email with a normal one you will be able to post again." shows to anyone with that email server.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 22, 2016, 05:00:41 am
Oh, I was unaware of that little thing
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 22, 2016, 07:36:19 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/can-anyone-give-interest-that-serius-issue-please-174198.0.html
Sent him a PM telling him not to make threads like this. He seems pretty obsessed with the issue. The bad thing is he words the issue so badly I don't think people even know what he's asking. I know I don't!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 02, 2016, 11:55:09 pm
Banned user Zox for 2 days

Quote
He's just still mad at me because i refused to work with his team. They are jellaus because i released a better creation than his whole team.
Shading of legs are complettely different. Because i maded them from scratch i have even rough draws on my pc saved. He's just jellaus when someone is better spriter than him. You don't need to hate someone when hes better than you and Loganir...  there will be always one better than you both

And worst part is hes 40 years old and crying around like a bitch... god that sux

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 03, 2016, 01:15:59 am
Where is that from? What happened?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 03, 2016, 01:21:25 am
Yeah, context please.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 03, 2016, 02:15:32 am
Doesn't he have a history of posting like that

http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/vampire-killer-86562/area.showposts
They may be old but there is some gems in there, this isn't his first time.

I also can't find any old bans of his but I really thought he was banned before.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 03, 2016, 02:56:58 am
Is that the same guy who made a Trevor (or was it Simon?) without a cross boomerang because he's an atheist? Same guy who called people sad little virgins? If it's him, yeah, he's got a long history of acting like an asshole.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 03, 2016, 03:21:30 am
my bad for not quoting with the link
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2252345


If the first reaction to someone pointing out you used sprites they made ( not demanding them to be removed or anything) is to go on that sad childish rant about being superior to them and trying to bring in people that arent even in the thread like Loganir then he can take his timeout in the corner.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 03, 2016, 03:23:35 am
Yeah he's done this crap before. I'd extend the ban to at least a week
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on June 03, 2016, 04:09:52 am
week is fine by me.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 03, 2016, 04:10:51 am
Is that the same guy who made a Trevor (or was it Simon?) without a cross boomerang because he's an atheist? Same guy who called people sad little virgins? If it's him, yeah, he's got a long history of acting like an asshole.

Wow I forgot about that.

Yep, same guy. He just uses the Vampire Killer name instead of Zox.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 03, 2016, 05:32:41 am
I think a warning should've been issued first but oh well.

A week long ban sounds good.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 07, 2016, 11:03:44 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2253846

Gennos's attitude is starting to get on my last nerve. I like to think he just doesn't realize how he comes off and is pretty awkward. So most of the time I can play it off that it's just a Gennos quirk. Then he does legit bs like this. He's not a really bad guy but he can't seem to stop. I don't want to have to start really churning him through the ban cycle more (he's been banned once) but I don't think he's leaving us much choice.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on June 07, 2016, 01:47:14 pm
Public Service Announcement:

Stop taking MUGEN so seriously. If you find yourself getting angry over and over again, use the logout button and return when you cool down.

There is literally no reason to stress out over anything on this forum. This is a hobby. People who release stuff here, unless on commission, are doing this as a hobby. There is no obligation of quality and there is no obligation to please fans. If you can't accept a release or leave feedback without bursting a gasket because the author doesn't cater to your whims or expectations, then your life priorities are messed up. Expend that energy on something useful in your life. Doing pushups is a more viable option than getting angry at people on the internet.

In short: MUGEN ain't that serious. Stop stressing over an innocuous hobby. Leave feedback if you want, but don't expect results because there's no obligation to you.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 07, 2016, 02:00:14 pm
I cant tell if thats towards gennos angrily telling people stuff  or JNP being stressed out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 07, 2016, 02:10:43 pm
I keep giving Gennos feedback and he keeps ignoring it though!!!  :beadyeyes2:

*goes to do push ups and falls on my stupid face on the 1st push
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 09, 2016, 12:34:37 am
And Zox is banned again :/

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/the-punisher-wip-174353.msg2254504.html#msg2254504

2 weeks
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 09, 2016, 06:16:47 am
Shouldn't it have a reason on the actual ban?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 09, 2016, 06:29:28 am
Added. Was on my phone and forgot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 09, 2016, 06:32:53 am
All good, I know how awful modding can be on a phone :jackie:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 12, 2016, 11:43:00 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/anyone-here-being-banned-BLACKLISTED WEBSITE-no-reason-all-174638.msg2256135.html#msg2256135

banned mugen archive from being linked on the guild on account of their adfly politics. Blade art sig links got all removed as well. If he attempts to put them back on, you know what to do.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 13, 2016, 02:39:25 am
Note that Blade Art was perma banned for refusing to remove his dangerous adfly links in the most dickish way possible. The only way I can see the perma ban being lifted is if he ever removes the adfly links. Even then he probably deserves to be banned about a week for his attitude.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2016, 02:47:42 am
Yeah, that sounds fair.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 13, 2016, 04:05:57 am
Do what thou wilt

After so many years of the same horrible attitude out of him I doubt he's going to change at this point.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on June 13, 2016, 05:41:56 pm
Warned concurseiro for repeated attempts  (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/projects-re-darkwolf13s-mvc2-s-b-p-captain-commando-wip-174655.0.html) of (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/projects-re-vs-style-debuts-revolution-heroes-official-thread-174656.0.html) both necros (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/projects-re-justice-league-vs-street-fighter-174657.0.html) and requesting something to either be made or released for him. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/projects-re-ramzanekowips-maverick-hunter-zero-mvc3mmx-games-174625.0.html)

I'm opting to ban him the next time he does this. Any objections?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 13, 2016, 05:44:19 pm
Be sure to give him 1 more warning telling him if he continues to do this you may be forced to ban him. Maybe that will stop him before it gets that serious.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on June 13, 2016, 06:04:04 pm
I already sent him one titled "last warning", but I guess one more will suffice. But I have a feeling he doesn'the pay attention to those PM, considering he continued after I sent him one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 13, 2016, 06:09:10 pm
He probably doesn't but I want us to try to go through the motions especially on 1st bans that are kinda trivial. Getting banned for this seems so petty but we can't contain them every moment either.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 13, 2016, 07:15:48 pm
Jason, if you post in this thread again my trivial solution is to ban you. We agreed on the adfly threat and disagree on how to deal with said threat. It doesn't even affect you that we disagree since we don't tell you you cannot go there so I don't see the issue.
Warned Jason Bourne not to post in this thread again. He's been told time and again why we don't allow it. At this point it feels he is responding to illicit reactions. If he goes on about it again ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 14, 2016, 05:28:45 am
He's banned.

Came back after multiple mod warnings, went right back to fighting with everyone in the thread, and caught him circumventing a wordfilter for a site loaded with malware possibilities (you know the one).

Seems to me that you need a break from the forum. Let's say two weeks for starters...

EDIT: Gennos gets a week as well for constant hostility. Second ban, come on bro, it's not good to be like that
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on June 20, 2016, 07:26:31 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/saint-87687

I think this guy has what it takes to join the exclusive limited post brotherhood. Thoughts on it?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 20, 2016, 07:30:44 am
I've already had to ask him to stop triple posting and then stop double posting AFTER that. After which I got an allcaps PM asking me not to ban him for it. Then that ridiculous derail in the wrestling thread where he tried to call someone out for something nonsensical pertaining to his CN thread

Go for it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on June 24, 2016, 06:58:23 am
Saint should definitely have a post limit. Maybe something like 6 posts per day? Really force Saint to make each post count.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on June 24, 2016, 08:13:57 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2260784

Should I apply it now? It seems like he's trying to start fights as of late. (Take a look at the cartoon City thread to see what I mean).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 24, 2016, 09:09:45 am
Holy fuck please do it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 24, 2016, 01:58:43 pm
His posting is horrendous

Do it if you haven't
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on June 24, 2016, 02:12:09 pm
He's clearly just trying to get attention, and he's succeeding.  Every third post of his is "lol go ahead bring the hate" or "u guyz are haters keep posting in my thread."  Slap him a limit on him and let him know that doesn't fly around here.

I'm surprised everyone appears to be totally falling for all that bait, though.  >_>
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on June 24, 2016, 02:20:13 pm
this seems pretty premature to me, considering we generally let users get away with a lot more than this.

bad posts dont necessarily mean rulebreaking posts
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 24, 2016, 03:15:31 pm
He needs to be adequately warned 1st
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on June 24, 2016, 03:18:24 pm
Forgot to mention that Iced already set him the "6 posts per day" limit before you 4 posted.

I already warned him via PM, but he just PM'ed me back with a very vague answer. So I just replied "well, you had your chance".
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on June 24, 2016, 03:29:22 pm
this seems pretty premature to me, considering we generally let users get away with a lot more than this.

bad posts dont necessarily mean rulebreaking posts

I don't think so.  There's a definite pattern forming here.  Just look over his post history from the last day or two alone:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I have a very hard time believing that he isn't doing this on purpose.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 27, 2016, 02:13:27 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/capcom-fighting-all-stars-mugen-version-98089.msg2261807.html;topicseen#msg2261807
@gara: warned for bullying.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 03, 2016, 02:26:53 am
Banned Lord M again. Anyone knows how long was his previous ban?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 03, 2016, 02:28:09 am
I don't think it was super long. Whether it was a week or a month I think 3 months would fit his repeated attitude.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 03, 2016, 03:18:08 am
Can't find it but he's had a week long one already and this is apparently his 4th ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 03, 2016, 03:20:05 am
Then yeah, he should be getting 3 months anyway. He skipped the single month somehow.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 03, 2016, 06:35:14 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/loud-howard-46147
banned for 3 months for making a tirade about how people not expecting spoilers were brats and listing spoilers on the sfv thread.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 03, 2016, 06:48:05 pm
I don't think those were actual spoilers in his last post. Kinda overdoing the length if that's the case.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 03, 2016, 06:54:37 pm
all of them were true just posted in a jokey manner.

feel free to lower the lenght tho.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 03, 2016, 06:57:50 pm
I'd say a week if it's his first offense. No way he's as bad as M Lord and he just now got to 3 months after all this time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 03, 2016, 07:08:46 pm
He's been banned multiple times. I think he once spammed porn and was banned for a year.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 03, 2016, 07:36:46 pm
Yeah, this guy's a bit of a habitual offender. Most times if he's not posting in the VG news thread of stuff that doesn't deserve its own thread he has a hell of an attitude.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 03, 2016, 07:45:34 pm
Ah. Name was familiar but didn't remember why
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 07, 2016, 05:10:35 pm
Hah, looks like we forgot to actually change Lord M's ban to 3 months. Guess we all thought someone else would do it. Saw him post and was like WTF?

Anyway corrected
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 09, 2016, 12:06:10 am
unbelievable. you suck at even making fun of someone.
let me teach you something you, "woosh" is used when someone misses a joke or has something go over their head. it's not used to get back at someone who said something obvious. if you really wanted to get back at me you spiteful little bitch, you should've used a captain obvious picture or you could've atleast called me captain obvious.
hype masta... more like fail masta. gtfo.

What on earth?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 09, 2016, 12:13:52 am
probably going to ban him for a month or so. he just never learns.

any objections?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on July 09, 2016, 12:21:53 am
If anything to calm him down, go for it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 09, 2016, 12:31:54 am
Banned him for 30 days
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 09, 2016, 12:37:36 am
Jeez, what a ridiculous and completely unprovoked post.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 09, 2016, 02:42:01 am
Gennos has been on the way to full on meltdown for a while now.  Hopefully this cools him off.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 09, 2016, 02:47:36 am
Of course the person with the Mei profile tells him to cool off. :smartass2:

But yeah, the situation did not warrant that kind of response.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 09, 2016, 05:28:42 am
Of course the person with the Mei profile tells him to cool off. :smartass2:

Hey! >:(



You need to chill out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 13, 2016, 02:04:32 am
We've never banned anyone for keeping donation money without delivering anything. But I don't remember seeing a situation this blatant either. Probably the only thing really not making this ban worthy is the fact he wasn't the one getting the money. But he's not trust worthy now so for all we know he got part of the $$$ too and is lying.

Other staff thoughts?

Who thinks the reputation burn is enough and who thinks we have a duty to protect others from potential future scams by banning Le@n?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 13, 2016, 02:11:54 am
I dont think you can prove or showcase anything related to leon, what he is saying might be true and the other guy might have fucked him over as well, banning him seems to not resolve any of that.
Its not like he can pull it off again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 13, 2016, 02:14:43 am
I'd ban if he ever tries to take donations again, but not atm.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 13, 2016, 02:16:15 am
The only way I could see him doing it again is by pm. But I don't think that'd happen and just 1 report would end it. I'm leaning toward no ban either since its up in the air on his role in this. And maybe he will calm down and at least release the final build at some point. He owes everyone that donated at least that much.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 14, 2016, 07:44:18 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2268165
and pretty much any notation of "The shattered reputation is enough" goes right out the window, at least in my opinion.

Anyone else thinks he's in ban territory now?

EDIT: Looks like it was settled in private and peacefully. Disregard.
EDIT AGAIN http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2268276 - Looks like he might've just shifted to Lui now. Still think he's cracked the thin ice here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 14, 2016, 09:47:19 pm
Winingish finally crossed the line from minor pain in the ass to cancerous shitposter. Do we give him a time out?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 14, 2016, 09:56:24 pm
Has anyone actually given him a moderation warning? I should have when I responded earlier. He probably needs a post limit if not ban if he keeps it up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 14, 2016, 09:59:33 pm
seems useless he only posts on random topic, unless he starts insulting people i dont see any need to control him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Person Man on July 15, 2016, 12:26:49 am
I'm kind of with Iced on this one.   The only problems he's causing are for himself.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 15, 2016, 02:17:28 pm
Random topic = Random Insanity?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 15, 2016, 03:00:38 pm
It's also probably in wingish's (whatever) interest for us to step in and warn him next time. Seriously if we bother him this much then it'd be better to stop him from adding more fuel to the fire. He just digs himself deeper with each post and we shouldn't encourage him to keep it up. It make it look like Random Insanity as Rajaa said. It'll draw in more weirdos like that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 17, 2016, 06:48:02 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/goodbye-now-and-im-sorry--175257.0.html

He's just seeking attention and he will continue this in the future. If he wants to take a break. I want to ban him for 3 days or, if he's already been banned for three days, then maybe 3 months should work.

Not buying his sudden epiphanies and all the other nonsense.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 17, 2016, 07:24:46 pm
Go for it. That thread was basically a way to circumvent Iced's random topic ban anyway.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 17, 2016, 07:27:18 pm
JustAGuy needs a warning first; the one he got in Random Topic doesn't really apply here, I think.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on July 18, 2016, 12:14:43 am
jag92 has been doing this for a long time, and im pretty sure ive warned him about this. considering he already does not heed any sort of criticism, he does not need a warning for this kind of repeat behavior. im on board with banning to cool him off. its really the only way hell get the message.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on July 21, 2016, 02:32:39 pm
I'll give him one more chance. But at the first sign of him following his old flow chart, he's gone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 26, 2016, 10:18:40 pm
So: dncelestinx96 is now going by the username Fūhrer. There's been a complaint about it being offensive (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/offtopic-help-why-cant-we-delete-our-own-topics-175398.0.html), but I'm not so sure about it? It seems fine? I dunno.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 26, 2016, 11:22:04 pm
I'm in the camp that he'd do well to change it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 26, 2016, 11:28:22 pm
this is a german based forum, its a bad idea to have any nazi related material in it.

Ive erased a post and warned a user that had changed a title of a thread he was replying to into "JEWS DID 911".
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 26, 2016, 11:30:27 pm
I'm part German and quite anti-Nazi. Also Val's in Germany and you know how much they hate Nazism over there.

If it wasn't forbidden I'd forcefully tear that name out and put his original name back in.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 26, 2016, 11:33:41 pm
Who forbids that?
we routinely edit names and sigs that are not up to code.

You are encouraged to not abuse that, but forbidden is far from the case?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 27, 2016, 12:04:28 am
Oh I thought I wasn't allowed to do it at all.

Huh :thinking2:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 27, 2016, 12:10:28 am
You shouldn't edit a name/profile to be insulting or make fun of the user. You should remove stuff that breaks the rules.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 27, 2016, 12:37:03 am
Quote
Ive erased a post and warned a user that had changed a title of a thread he was replying to into "JEWS DID 911".
Huh? Some context?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 27, 2016, 12:41:35 am
There was none, the guy replied to a random thread about a released character praising the character and changed the title to JEWS DID 911. I saw it on recent posts and went to check wtf that was.

Told him to not do it again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 31, 2016, 12:32:08 am
I banned weegee's new sockpuppet.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on July 31, 2016, 12:33:08 am
That was quick.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 31, 2016, 12:39:21 am
Was it actually Weegee? I thought I was getting close to finding out just which banned user Burton was, but oh well; got an admission, at least.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on July 31, 2016, 12:45:49 am
Of course it was weegee. It was beyond obvious it was weegee since the beginning, but these two posts further confirm it:
Quote
OK. if you say so.

First of all, when i first registered and did an introduction last time, you guys called me some really hateful names and IP banned me for no reason afterwards.  Thats it in a nutshell
Quote
if the admins here are okay, then why are people like borewood2013, axseeker, and Megaman providing so much evidence on why this community and the admins are a bunch of assholes? Borewood2013's cases on the warehouses, copyright on MUGEN creations, and feeding on other forum drama, axseeker's cases of religious denial, and Megaman aka the founder of Mugentamamin's cases of personal information leak and cyberbullying?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 03, 2016, 02:37:13 pm
Ive had to delete a few odd bot accounts, clear publicity in large swats of text in sig but seemingly normal names and even first posts Either bots are copying posts or newbies are adding publicity to their sigs for funsies.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on August 03, 2016, 08:16:09 pm
Any examples, just so I know what I'm looking for?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 03, 2016, 08:22:32 pm
Ive deleted them so not really. :\

This was one that baffled me, the bot thing detected it as a bot, it had publicity on its sigs, but it was posting like a normal account
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/trying-to-find-a-patch-for-donalddesus-ronald-mcdonald-175554.0.html
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on August 03, 2016, 08:26:17 pm
Yeah, I'm guessing it's copying newbie posts to look natural.

They are human controlled, and they're showing it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 09, 2016, 03:08:41 am
LOLOL
Okay I'm finally off work. So now I think we seriously need to discuss some sort of action for this.

Some story/context:
As we've discussed Hoffman had been doing his DLC baiting schtick. It'd reached a tipping point with many users who decided they should call him out on it in the Injustice 2 thread. Walruslui was one of the more rude people there but we let it slide because GBK had set himself up for it with his actions.

A user PMed me reporting Lui's post toward Hoffman and internally staff noted that Lui's been known to be a dick.  I already had a PM to send Lui and went ahead to let him know to keep it on the down low more because it's gotten more attention.
He replied back thanking me for letting him know and understood and would try to tone it down.

2 hours after that he goes t the german board to see GBK saying he's tired of people on here being mean and he's quiting Guild.

Lui responds with "LOL"

So he'd been told to be nicer.
He had already gotten a chance to pwn GBK.
And it feels worse that he went to a thread not even in his language that he's never had a stake in just to laugh at GBK quiting.

Discuss. I almost think the last part deserves a 3 day ban. But at the very least this deserves a legit warning that the next time he acts up he could be banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 09, 2016, 03:29:07 am
Ban him the next time he does anything remotely wrong if you want to, but if we ban him for posting "lolol" as a reply to GBK's passive aggressive rage quit we'll look like idiots.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 09, 2016, 03:41:09 am
There's a certain point where enough is enough though. That felt incredibly tasteless at that point. It may had been different if GBK had done this in one of the threads where ppl were giving him a hard time. But I really don't want it to look ok to track down users to add more fuel to the fire. I fully believe that GBK earned everything he got with his attitude. But we also expect people to be better than this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 09, 2016, 05:22:39 am
And it feels worse that he went to a thread not even in his language that he's never had a stake in just to laugh at GBK quiting.
It's this aspect that puts it over the line for me; that isn't just simple disagreement.

I think an extremely stern warning is needed here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 09, 2016, 03:54:27 pm
Warn him very publicaly, I would say warning ban to get people to stop poking at each other but Ive honestly not been following the situation a lot and it feels like GBK was baiting people a lot before he started getting a ton of response, which to me downgrades the situation a lot. Its hard to be mad at people for replying to someone that has been baiting that hard.

People need to stop poking at each other in an offensive manner never the less.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on August 10, 2016, 10:32:10 pm
Ban him next time he acts up. I'm getting sick of his shit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 14, 2016, 03:02:30 pm
Banned Lars for three days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on August 14, 2016, 03:21:13 pm
Good work team
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 20, 2016, 06:31:33 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/zeku-final-fight-master-guy-175816.msg2280916.html#new

multiaccount mayhem
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 20, 2016, 04:49:26 pm
@Just No Point:
@Iced:

Please merge all of mazemerald's accounts:
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/mazemerald-is-now-reasons-175847.0.html

(huh? tagging isn't working...)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 20, 2016, 05:15:38 pm
ive done it, took me a while.

edited his personal text so that we can tell who he was next time he makes another alt account.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 22, 2016, 10:36:45 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mugensam2111-88227

Will ban this guy if he keeps spamming Kohaku's thread because his posts are no better, if not worse, than a spambot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 28, 2016, 01:47:02 pm
Placing the following two here for the records:

NANDUS has apparently been warned before about requesting in topics, but not by me.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/nandus-84513

MikeCrazy2004 HAS a horribly offensive profile. And when I say offensive, I mean offensive to the English language. Also, requesting for stuff to be made.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mikecrazy2004-83146
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on August 28, 2016, 03:12:37 pm
That NANDUS guy is like a bot triggered by posting the words "mvc2" and "hyper portrait". I'm pretty sure he's been banned before.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on August 28, 2016, 03:54:44 pm
He's had like 3 for it iirc
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on August 28, 2016, 04:04:45 pm
4th actually. Wouldn't mind giving him a 5th.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 28, 2016, 04:21:20 pm
Yeah we were making them pretty short bans too because of how petty the bans were. But by now we should go full cycle.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 28, 2016, 05:58:07 pm
Feel free to go for it, I warned him anyway to not post there again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 28, 2016, 09:27:02 pm
Yeah we were making them pretty short bans too because of how petty the bans were. But by now we should go full cycle.
I went and looked up how long his last ban was for and we've actually been steadily increasing the length! The last one was for 6 months, so his new ban should be for a whole year.

That last ban was his fifth, and every time he's been banned, it's been for the exact same thing. So I'm just gonna go ahead and ban him again, warnings are unnecessary at this point.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 31, 2016, 02:13:32 pm
The Brother Nandus only just wanted a simple image of Hyper Portrait, because he had managed to make a char MUGEN, and was wronged and banished. It was not rude on his part, it was just a simple favor he wanted, a silly thing :(
Putting this here because I need to investigate and see if we screwed up on this one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on August 31, 2016, 02:23:03 pm
Are you serious?

It's an account registered today claiming brotherhood or friendship with a recently banned user.

AKA: Alternate account. Just look at the tracking information.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 31, 2016, 02:40:58 pm
I just put it here till I got back from taking my kid to daycare so that I wouldn't forget. That's why I said I needed to still investigate.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 31, 2016, 02:56:42 pm
Thats someone with an alt account trying to justify why they need to beg for portraits on other people threads repeatedly ( Last time banned for six months)  even tho an admin is telling him not to beg on other people's accounts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 31, 2016, 03:19:48 pm
Then the investigation is complete. Merged accounts. NANDUS is now perma banned as per the ban extension after a year.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 01, 2016, 01:00:23 pm
This user
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=74865

was sending out automated spam messages to random users telling them to log into his site and upload their works there for him.
Random users, even users that dont have projects,  anyone he could find in some kind of frantic desperation to get access to wips.


He is now banned for spamming for seven days. If you receive spam from this user, tell a moderator.

Thanks to everyone that reported him.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 02, 2016, 12:50:01 am
Got another one doing the same thing.

http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=88858

Banned for 7 days. Should we filter their website name?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 02, 2016, 01:46:07 am
...that's the same guy ban evading, doofus. He even had a third account. I changed his ban to permanent.

I suggest filtering his forum to "Shady Russian Site # 37215".
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 02, 2016, 01:53:17 am
I looked at his ip! It was his email wasn't it? :p
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on September 02, 2016, 04:30:44 am
Nope, IP and hostname are exact matches
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 02, 2016, 04:43:54 am
I looked in that field that shows the posts instead of the field right above it that showed all the matches.. Man, I've been making a lot of mistakes lately. I start feeling bad that I'm not doing more then try to do stuff on the phone and mess up.

I think I'm stretching myself too much trying to mod , steady coding, and family stuff. I need to only do simple nonthinking mod stuff unless I'm firmly planted in front of the PC without babies or coding distractions.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on September 02, 2016, 04:48:56 am
If it's any consolation, I didn't check it until it was posted; he was already banned by the time I saw this.

Also that guy has history. Check what was posted in QotD to go right to it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 02, 2016, 01:13:25 pm
any account registered with yandex that starts posting a lot, delete it, its the russian bot trying to work around our pm spam protection

http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=88864

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on September 02, 2016, 04:27:19 pm
Pretty much any Russian email seems to get heavy use out of that. Mail.ru too and that's a huge provider over there.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 02, 2016, 05:12:15 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2284795

I think it's calmed down. Do we need to take any actions here? This stemmed a whole bunch of reports from various sides accusing the other party of the exact same thing. I dunno. Though I would say that Gennos really shouldn't be going so far with his "burns" since he just came back from a ban for losing it.

Maybe we should just shit thread it. Delete it. Or leave it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on September 02, 2016, 05:21:40 pm
Leaning towards warning Gennos (since he just had a meltdown, what with that whole "vyx" thing) and either shit-thread or delete the whole argument.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on September 02, 2016, 05:38:16 pm
I'm not clever enough for shit thread retitles :(

But yeah, shit thread it, warn if you feel it needs it. It doesn't look like it got absolutely ridiculous beyond that at least.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 02, 2016, 06:14:49 pm
It's sort of becoming productive in the feedback to warnings thread. We should just leave the spat as is and see how the other discussion runs its course.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 02, 2016, 06:17:42 pm
Ban Gennos. Warn Byakko. No need to split off nor delete the stuff in Random Topic.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 02, 2016, 09:48:16 pm
A warning really isn't sufficient here. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2284967) This absolutely requires a ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 02, 2016, 09:57:15 pm
I almost did as much right then and there. Would this be ban 2?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on September 02, 2016, 10:00:04 pm
Yep
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 02, 2016, 10:00:32 pm
Last one was 9 months ago, for 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 02, 2016, 10:01:28 pm
Okay banned for 7 days
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 02, 2016, 10:55:25 pm
Ban Gennos. Warn Byakko.
Ban Gennos, don't do anything about Byakko unless he does the same thing as SD.


Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 02, 2016, 11:18:55 pm
Alrighty 3 months
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 03, 2016, 02:45:35 am
The admins of the site "mugenworks" have created several spam accounts that were mass emailing users about joining their site, they were at first banned for seven days for spamming and resorted to create more accounts to keep mass pming people so we have filtered their site name and banned all accounts found spamming.

If anyone emails you about this site, be warned that the site is non trusted, no legit site would be resorting to mass spamming if they had any intrisic value to begin with.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 08, 2016, 01:03:35 am
Added Scamp account, dubbed admin of Mugenworld to the ban list for the spamming after he admitted to have spammed the forum after first trying to insult everyone, claim to have been hacked, say the spam was our fault and pretend that he didnt had a part into the spam and was all an action by their russian competitors to make him look bad.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 10, 2016, 04:32:21 pm
Dudes seriously,  why dont you post the whole code from start to finish.  I tried to enter this into mugen and it doesnt work.  I really hate when you guys online post stuff but you dont really post it so anyone can just look at it and understand what is going on.  Just based on this code I have already wasted about 30-45 minutes at least trying to figure how it works because the mugen fighter factory code has to be entered more than just this.

Please if you want to post some advice please make it clear so that not only do you understand whats going on but anyone could just look at it and in a matter of moments be able to figure it out.  Its not really helpful much if someone has to look around another more hours just because your post is not very clear.
Warned this person. Keep and eye out in case he spazes
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 15, 2016, 02:07:35 pm
maybe you should stop jumping the Gun...
Don't start these off topic jabs again. I see you get on this kick again and I'm going to start banning. This is unacceptable.
Warned Iori730 again. He's a repeat offender. Has a beef with someone and starts following their posts waiting for anything he can use to passive aggressively or even fully attack them.

Warned earlier in his cycle this time. See him start again and ban for 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 03, 2016, 04:51:31 pm
I deleted some bot posts but don't have time to delete from bin halp
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on October 03, 2016, 05:08:12 pm
Got that covered.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on October 16, 2016, 04:28:41 am
Double-posting cause just banned a Mazemerald alt..

Anyone want to merge this to his main account? Nvm, it's been merged.

Edit: And speaking of Mazemerald himself, he's banned too.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 16, 2016, 04:25:52 pm
after his last meltdown just a guy was warned to never post on rnadom topic again, he has posted three or four times now and everytime he is warned to not do it hell jus twait and do it again whenever he feels like it. so he now got a light ban of four days that will increase if he keeps posting.

I thought it had been a light punishment back then but seems hes unable to follow it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on October 20, 2016, 03:05:13 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Zox banned for a month after continuing his spiteful behavior towards Verz who isn't even around at the time of this post.

EDIT: I made it a month because his last one was apparently two weeks. Normally it goes 3 days -> 1 week -> month (I think?) so yeah.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 24, 2016, 12:15:40 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2298875

25+ year olds talking to 15 year olds about sex.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Rajaa Retired on October 24, 2016, 07:01:30 pm
Why are people talking about that stuff? This isn't that type of forum and that stuff is not normal.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 25, 2016, 05:01:38 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2299151
Warned Jason Bourne not to be a dick.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 25, 2016, 05:49:08 am
And now that's ban 3 for him. 30 days
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 29, 2016, 04:35:53 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.showposts;u=87150

This guy seems like the perfect storm of language barrier, lack of netiquette and mental impairment. 95% of his posts are completely incoherent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 29, 2016, 04:38:48 pm
Yeah, I was just about to bring him up. Nobody understands what he wants to say, his posts get trashed and then he gets frustrated and starts shitposting. Then no one understands his shitposts and the cycle continues.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on October 30, 2016, 12:33:24 am
Tempted to ban. Any objections?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on October 30, 2016, 12:43:58 am
no point, he wouldnt understand, be patient and try to communicate more with him, hes a young kid, not someone trying to annoy you on purpose
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 31, 2016, 02:33:32 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2300986

Warned TETSUGA GENSHO about trying to dictate what people should do with their personal hobby
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on October 31, 2016, 06:55:25 pm
He just got strike 2
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 31, 2016, 07:39:30 pm
Wow that was quick

Banned him for three days but I know it ain't his first so feel free to increase it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on October 31, 2016, 07:40:01 pm
A week, then?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 31, 2016, 07:45:47 pm
Think his last one was three days, so a week sounds good
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on October 31, 2016, 10:33:51 pm
If it matters, that guy's posting is consistently and almost always quite abrasive. Has been for years.

BTW this is ban #4. First was 2011, second 2012, third last June. A month is probably a good minimum at this point.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on October 31, 2016, 10:58:23 pm
Banned another Weegee sockpuppet  (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/graymegabuster-89206).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 31, 2016, 11:10:59 pm
You sure that's Weegee?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on October 31, 2016, 11:21:10 pm
If this (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2301134) doesn't tell you it's him, idk what is.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 31, 2016, 11:53:57 pm
nvm then
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 06, 2016, 01:04:07 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/phantomzai-83171
banned as a warning for 2 days, posting on a chuchoryu thread to complain that he didnt want the character to be adapted by chuchoryu
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 10, 2016, 02:59:26 am
Found a Real Bastard/Mr.Silver alt account. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/shin-neanderthal-88961)

The account has been permabanned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 14, 2016, 09:39:21 pm
Accounts started registering to try to "defend" mugen archive and accuse people of being drama whores. I started treating them as if they were spam bots, do the same with any account that registers only to make publicity for banned sites.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 20, 2016, 07:22:15 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2306263

Trinitronity's approaching critical mass again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on November 20, 2016, 07:46:40 pm
He needs to voluntarily step away for a bit. He seems to do good for long stretches after bans that force him to step away.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 24, 2016, 03:24:57 pm
I've read a lot of stuff about mugen archive but I still don't understand why I shouldn't use that site. They have everything and I can't find that much content anywhere else.

So can you explain as if I'm a 6yo why it's a bad site?
why the heck did you make a duplicate account?
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=80689
something fucky is going on


I need staff help, I need to have all the MA threads fused into a single one so that this doesnt keep happening.

Any account whose first post is a "missionary" post for MA should probably be deleted on the spot, as seen above they are all duplicate accounts
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 24, 2016, 07:17:53 pm
I've collected the main storyline into one trade paperback, I'm not going to bother with all the random tie-ins like somebody switching hosting
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on November 24, 2016, 08:46:28 pm
Thanks speed.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on December 04, 2016, 04:02:04 pm
Zox banned for at least 3 months for user harassment/stalking, complete inability to listen to reason/mod warnings, and some colorful PMs.

Next one is at least a year. Stop what you're doing because we're not going to let you keep doing this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 04, 2016, 04:19:47 pm
Ban is upgraded to a yearfor threatening to dox users via PM.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on December 04, 2016, 05:14:10 pm
After staff discussion it's been upgraded to permanent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 04, 2016, 05:40:50 pm
Verz has posted about the incident on Infinity, so Im posting the pm here as well
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=45697.msg0%3Btopicseen#new

(http://i64.tinypic.com/9a6zi0.png)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 10, 2016, 10:05:43 pm
kakobot has posted twice after being given a final warning not to post in the Tien Z2 thread. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2311640) A 3 day ban would be appropriate here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on December 10, 2016, 10:22:44 pm
Didn't know the rest went to the recycle bin. Reading it tho, a 3 day ban will most likely do.

Edit: And he's outta here.

Edit 2: Extended to 2 months after seeing a reported pm about Hatter being threatened to get beat up by Kakabot.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on December 11, 2016, 03:23:24 am
Wow, that guy is toxic.

Hey Kakobot, if you're reading this, stop acting superior to everyone else and threatening other users with bodily harm. We're not going to let it fly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 18, 2016, 05:10:15 am
Anyone here against banning Jason Bourne for good? I didn't comment on his behavior for the longest time because suppressing impopular opinions isn't very healthy for the forum, but at this point the guy's basically a bot programmed to shill my huge butt and adfly.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 18, 2016, 05:22:12 am
Eh, his only real crime is that he's a console warrior (for a MUGEN warehouse of all things). I say keep him on the cycle.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on December 18, 2016, 05:22:47 am
Bourne is hopeless.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 18, 2016, 08:02:14 am
Banned Jason Bourne for 6 months while everyone decides whether it should be permanent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 18, 2016, 08:05:06 am
Just keep him on the cycle. Just because he's being willfully ignorant and trying to argue against literally everyone on the forum doesn't mean he deserves a permaban. It's all self-contained in that thread, after all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on December 25, 2016, 02:55:11 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/danzey-84354

Banned danzey for making multiple posts about his release. At 1st he was deleting his topic and reposting it when someone else's thread got a reply so it'd stay on top. I warned him. Then he just started posting multiple ones.

Ban is 1 day
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 01, 2017, 04:00:09 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2316691

Banned Lord M for yet another Street Fighter V topic kerfuffle. Ban's set to three days currently because I'm not sure what stage he's at.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on January 01, 2017, 04:17:48 am
Last ban he had was 3 months. Maybe bump it up to 4, 5, or a year?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 01, 2017, 04:23:21 am
5 sounds good. Anyone feel free to change if you deem it necessary
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 01, 2017, 04:36:44 am
We typically start doubling at this point and make it 6. Next would be a year. Then perma. Not a big deal. Just noting.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Sinnesloschen on January 01, 2017, 10:38:51 pm
Yeah make it six.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 01, 2017, 10:46:53 pm
Done.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 15, 2017, 02:43:32 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/jotaro-178047.msg2320474.html#new

I can't remember the last time we had a shitstorm like this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on January 15, 2017, 03:02:25 am
The rain's too light to be a shitstorm in my eyes.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 17, 2017, 02:59:41 am
SNK. YOU JUST MADE THE LIST! AGAIN!

Removed this post from the kof thread, user keeps posting the same thing over and over again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on January 18, 2017, 02:19:33 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=89609
Lord M's ban upgraded to a year given he evaded it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 19, 2017, 04:56:22 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/area.showposts;u=87150

This guy seems like the perfect storm of language barrier, lack of netiquette and mental impairment. 95% of his posts are completely incoherent.

He's still at it. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/requests-nobody-cares-what-you-think--178133.0.html)

@Iced: can you use your Portuguese super powers to figure out what's wrong with him?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 19, 2017, 05:04:27 pm
Im not sure what he is even doing
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on January 19, 2017, 05:09:56 pm
The only sensible idea I can think of as to why he's doing it is that he must be a really young lad or something and we don't know it. I don't know how else he could be like this :inquisitive:

BTW Iced while you're here can you merge the DunnoWhatever account into Lord M's, or whatever you see fit considering it never posted?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 19, 2017, 05:16:23 pm
ill erase it instead.

I sent the guy above a pm asking if he needs help posting.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Odb718 on January 20, 2017, 10:31:46 am
So.....
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/spanish-only-espa%C3%B1ol-solamente-v2-118073.msg2321258.html#msg2321258
people should go to a gay bar and get killed by a middle easterner? With all the complaints this guy's been getting, I'd suggest the banishment he's so desperate to get around. Seeing as he says there's never a temp-ban that's long enough to stop him from coming back even stronger, we should make him the Hulk.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 20, 2017, 02:43:40 pm
Oh yeah, that guy. I gave him a final post to say goodbye but it seems he wasn't interested. Banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 21, 2017, 08:00:56 pm
But you've made several mistakes meaning you posted "stupid shit" and by your own logic others should be able to call you out on it. Accept that you too can be ignorant. It's worse when you get all upset over it.

I admitted when I was truly wrong. get off my ass shithead.
I didn't want to ban this guy just for having strong (and terribly ill informed) opinions and going against the PC zeitgeist, but his string of shitposting had to end. Banned for 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 25, 2017, 11:25:17 pm
Reduced Lord M's ban back down to 6 months since he apparently was trying to contact us to tell us he was getting a 500 error instead of a banned message.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on January 27, 2017, 05:23:09 am
SNK. YOU JUST MADE THE LIST! AGAIN!

Removed this post from the kof thread, user keeps posting the same thing over and over again.

Well then creppy SNK people. You just made the list!
He did it again. Guess I'll give him a final warning to stop.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on January 27, 2017, 07:04:07 pm
Congratulations Now I'm quitting mugen!

He's out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on January 27, 2017, 07:11:05 pm
He made the list!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 27, 2017, 08:05:57 pm
Hopefully he'll figure out how to express himself in social settings in other ways besides copying a wrestler's catchphrase or being a cartoon character
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Odb718 on January 28, 2017, 12:50:10 pm
Whuchu Sayin Willis?!
I think posts like that are DYNAMITE!
Some times I read stupid posts and I have to ask myself, Did I do that??
I mean, WHO AAARE THESE PEOPLE?!
If you dont like me ending my sentences in catch phrases, just ask me to CUT, IT, OUT!
But in all seriousness, How you doin?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 05, 2017, 05:50:42 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2326284

Soon he'll get to win. You know you won when the libtard gets offended and has to kick you for spreading the truth.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Odb718 on February 06, 2017, 11:41:46 am
I sent chuchoryu a pm about his double double post. told him not to be so basic.
I didnt combine the posts because there's already a few posts under them. Not sure if we _should_ combine them or not. I pointed them out in the pm so it'd be silly to link to something that's fixed.
Hopefully my tactics of making him need to feel better than noobs will get him to stop double posting.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 07, 2017, 10:20:29 pm
Banned Rei for 1 week
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2327137

I'm on phone so I couldn't search if he'd been banned more than once already.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on February 07, 2017, 10:50:50 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2173241
Appears to be one other one that was 3 days, he's apparently no stranger to colossal meltdowns though.

A week seems good if we're doing it through the cycle.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Odb718 on February 08, 2017, 12:39:54 am
This is kinda bad. Jango is just being very stupid imo. Was going to warn him but idk.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2327168
I was going to post a reply to Jesuszilla's post (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2327152) too but I think the thread needs to get back on track.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 08, 2017, 12:44:26 am
Jango's post is an obvious joke. Like mine, like [E]'s.

There is no "back on topic" with that thread. What it is IS the topic.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on February 08, 2017, 12:44:55 am
JZ's post at least said something and it was him taking some accountability for his involvement.

Jango's post doesn't really do anything of importance from what I can see.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Odb718 on February 08, 2017, 01:45:51 am
My reply to JZ was going to be something like "He let the first one slide and said something on the second one. Which is probably the best way to let someone know you didnt care for it the first time". I see my post kinda makes it look like I didnt care for his post.  I gotta say I've not payed attention enough to this thread to reply to it. So I'm just staying out. I just think if Jango keeps shitposting like that a warning is in order.

Idk if it's just because I'm newer to modding here but I feel like the forum's getting too serious lately. Like people are on edge all the time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 08, 2017, 01:53:46 am
Naw, stuff like this is pretty much par for the course. Sometimes peeps just gotta get it out of their system.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 08, 2017, 02:28:58 am
Now that you're a mod it's just brought to your attention more.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on February 15, 2017, 08:20:01 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/from-russia-love-trumps-national-security-adviser-resigns-178500.0.html

Banned Electro for 3 days
Apologies for not linking directly to the post he made. On phone and it wasn't showing that link in replies
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 16, 2017, 01:32:27 am
This is nothing but fake news! Sad!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 03, 2017, 01:55:54 am
Aumio Khan got caught trying to register 3 extra accounts to cheat the votings in the polls of COTM,  (  terribly so at that) he got caught after submitting one extra vote and was banned for a year.

His attempt of excusing his behaviour were , and I quote:

Quote
hello. this is aumio khan from mfg forum. i dont know what the hell going in my account. a guy send me email mentioning virus123@gmail.com to click. i did it. after some time. after some time, i began to see discussion and post that not done by me. any help!?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Odb718 on March 03, 2017, 07:56:56 am
Remember kids, If a stranger on the internet asks you to click on an email,
DON'T  DO  IT!!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 05, 2017, 09:08:38 pm
Account "pancakelord" started spamming, post limited to three posts a day and removed all of his posts.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 07, 2017, 06:09:10 am
Banned a new Aumio sockpuppet and changed his original ban to permanent.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on March 07, 2017, 06:15:12 am
Wow, I'm flabbergasted at how obvious it was looking at it :gonk:
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 15, 2017, 12:28:09 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/character-month-february-2017-voting-178867.0.html

Thoughts? I'd let it slide.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 15, 2017, 01:01:10 am
I don't see it being a deciding factor unless you're as fangirly as Aumio
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 15, 2017, 01:07:38 am
everyone can brag and plead to his fans to vote for him, thats not that different from announcing in irc chat "plz everyone, vote for our guy!"
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on March 15, 2017, 01:22:38 am
While I'm not the biggest fan of that method, it's ultimately multiple people voting and not one guy making a ton of accounts to inflate (a) character's/characters' vote(s).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 15, 2017, 02:44:21 am
Gui went rogue and deleted the poll options to punish the guy even tho he had already been told not to, we will have to do a redo.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 15, 2017, 03:07:44 am
We have to have a discussion privately about what should be done because this is pretty serious. You can't just modify the poll without anyone else getting a say in it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 17, 2017, 04:50:29 am
What's up with all the Electro posts in the recycle bin and why is he having a hard on for me? Did I offend him that badly?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 17, 2017, 04:56:39 am
He didn't seem to realize I meant what I said. Also for some reason he thought you were behind it even though you'd been logged off for hours, even when I'd directly responded. Also, probably drunk because he got pretty incoherent at the end there. Then he tired himself out, I guess.

Don't think he realized that the effort put into removing his little tantrum amounted to me pausing The Fast and the Furious every 10 or so minutes to check my phone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 17, 2017, 09:47:36 am
I was going to ask what was up with all the broken english messages in recycle bin but I see someone decided to make mugen great again and remove fake news
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 17, 2017, 05:15:07 pm
It's time Electro to be banned. The repeated use of the slur "we are dumb fucks spamming this site for ten years" alone should be a worth few months, without even taking into account his continued disruptive posting.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 17, 2017, 05:17:11 pm
It was one thing when it was a drunken night stupor. But yeah, this is an ongoing thing now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 17, 2017, 05:18:27 pm
Yeah, I'm getting tired of making him stand out in the hall

It's time he got suspended
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 17, 2017, 05:23:15 pm
Banned for 1 month
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 17, 2017, 05:55:09 pm
JnP continues to censor the posting class. Sad!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Odb718 on March 17, 2017, 06:49:21 pm
(https://media.tenor.co/images/d2427b45d69fbd830f273409ea6156a1/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 21, 2017, 04:42:01 pm
Banned yet another Goku6, Yamcha8, DBZInteger account  (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/dex-89886)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on March 21, 2017, 05:21:00 pm
Wow

Haven't heard that name in years
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on March 31, 2017, 12:28:38 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2340287

Warned agent of destiny for needlessly littering posts with all the things he may or may not should post while posting them anyway. Sorry for updating you guys desu
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 04, 2017, 06:54:12 pm
@Rastan please stop bumping this (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/kofz-reuploaded-with-extra-characters-173094.0.html)
You've already bumped it six times as of this post (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/re-kofz-reuploaded-with-extra-characters-174056.0.html). All further bumps by you will be deleted from that thread. Please read your PMs. This is in attempt for you to read it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 08, 2017, 11:58:53 pm
@Jessy:
Any more posts like this - http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2342809 - and we may have to ban you. This is a complete example of how not to post in a release thread and you've had this "subtle trolling" gimmick for too long.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 09, 2017, 12:05:33 am
that troll been around for long and knows better than to post like that, that deserves a ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 09, 2017, 01:35:31 am
Will do. 3 days to start.

Also whoever banned Electro for a month set it to perm. It was 22 days ago so I'll give it 9 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on April 17, 2017, 07:31:44 pm
@Rastan, you have been repeatedly told to stop bumping the KOFZ topic. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought that maybe you just didn't know about the help board, but I see that you do and you're purposefully bumping for attention. You have it. The next time you bump an old topic will result in a ban.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 17, 2017, 09:52:27 pm
Has he done it since my last post about it
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on April 17, 2017, 09:56:00 pm
Yep (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/re-kofz-reuploaded-with-extra-characters-179435.0.html). I'd split it off to turn it into a help topic only to discover one already there bumped by him the same day.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on April 19, 2017, 05:42:15 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=90015

Jason Bourne's ban increased to a year for making an alternate account. Should have stuck with the Bourne identity! Eh? Eh?


But seriously, ban increased
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 23, 2017, 12:07:10 am
changed mugen archive wordfilter after request to do so.


The usual accounts that MA admins keep registering to try to publicize themselves will keep being treated as bots.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 23, 2017, 10:55:54 pm
muduzov banned for the horrible crime of being here only to argue with people about that fun ol'e place.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 23, 2017, 11:04:12 pm
noooooooooooooooooooo... remember that when treating these obvious shill accounts as bots you can also delete their ad posts if you want.


Guild hosts its own materials and pays for it, and will still want its own materials if rehosted to be rehosted without any bullshit practices that make money out of content that others made while putting the downloaders at risk.

They cant hide behind the excuse that they are doing people a favour while using those practices when the materials are already hosted free of charge.

If any mugen contributor needs hosting space fpr their mugen material we have never refused anyone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 23, 2017, 11:19:52 pm
And all of his shitposts with responses thrown in the bin where they belong
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 23, 2017, 11:22:42 pm
if you feel theres normal users already answering and etc and dotn want to delete it thats understandable, its better to let people talk than to just silence it , if you catch it while its just shitposting for the sake of shitposting then throw it to recycle.

Use your best judgement


Meanwhile i havent been really active due to the hdbz influx thing, so sorry for any delays there might be in my responses.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 23, 2017, 11:31:20 pm
I must apologize for inactivity due to the same reason. I thought I'd have more time after the build release. Dear lord I was wrong!

I thought some of the deleted responses were good for when this in inevitably happens again.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 23, 2017, 11:45:21 pm
I mean if you guys want me to put the responses to his posts back in I can
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on April 24, 2017, 02:16:07 am
I went ahead and restored them. No prob :)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 09, 2017, 12:51:38 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/m-u-g-e-n-discussion-re-character-month-april-2017-nominations-179687.0.html

deleted post.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 13, 2017, 03:24:53 am
Jessy/Smoke banned for a week for constant shitposting, and derailing a CotM offshoot into a weird porn discussion on top of that.

Your posting needs to improve big time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 20, 2017, 04:52:12 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/tekken-street-fighter-virtua-fighter-mortal-kombat-doa-chars-making-and-more-145542.0.html

Chuchoryu stole some stuff again. Typically not a huge deal but this time instead of the usual "sorry mi amigo I'll credit" he lied about it. What should come of this?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 20, 2017, 05:16:20 pm
I think the half-assed chart and invoking a suddenly dead grandmother just as soon as the heat rose was a bit much.

My problem is how do we even police this? We can come at it from the money angle, but stealing from commissioned sprites is how this whole cycle started in the first place. He's not really antagonizing people, probably because he learned long ago that he doesn't have to do much and his topic stays bumped (which is why he gets irritated when the stuff gets shit-threaded).

If we put him on the cycle, when the inevitable happens again do we keep it going until he's perma'd at the end of the year?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 20, 2017, 06:30:25 pm
We've let actual scammers get away without bans over previous commission scandals. Changing our policy just because chuchoryu is so easy to dislike feels...wrong.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 20, 2017, 08:07:57 pm
I wasn't saying anything about him actually stealing. I was bringing up that when confronted he lied about it. We've banned for that part before.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 20, 2017, 11:55:48 pm
yeah being dishonest about it should incur something.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on May 21, 2017, 12:04:40 am
Well Chuch hasn't responded as of now (ever since he changed his sprite of Allen), but should we start with 3 days since he was flat out lying (and pulling out the "mi familia" card) now or wait?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 21, 2017, 12:06:09 am
We're gonna have to go outside the cycle if it's happening, anything less than a month is not going to affect him at all. He already said he's dipping out for days (to wait for when the topic stops bumping itself).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on May 21, 2017, 12:39:47 am
I'm good with 1-3 months. Because he's been around long enough to know better.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on May 21, 2017, 12:43:06 am
1 month it is, then.

Edit: And he out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on May 21, 2017, 12:44:56 am
I'd go with a longer ban as I don't expect him to improve at this point.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on May 21, 2017, 12:51:27 am
Went ahead and bumped it up to 2. He kinda had it coming for a long time, I think.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 21, 2017, 01:09:50 am
If you are part of a community and part of your method is to just lie your ass out and then pretend to have dramas to make people pity you maybe you got bigger problems than not being able to sprite so you have to steal stuff up.

I think everyone been pretty patient with him, but if he wants to lie through his butthole we shouldnt go along with it, that will only cause friction.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 27, 2017, 12:10:00 am
@Darkflare Do us a favor and stop prolonging the Maxima issue. You're the only one now drawing this out and if you keep going you're probably gonna get a ban depending on how much you do it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on June 08, 2017, 05:56:23 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2355529

DS12 Productions deleted every post he had made in this thread so I restored them and gave him the "no edit no delete" membergroup
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 08, 2017, 06:02:44 am
Ah, I was wondering what happened there
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 29, 2017, 11:01:07 pm
Fused rei replica account with his original and left the email on the account equal to the last account so he can change his password and just use it.

Remember to update your emails in case you lose your passwords and need to get a new one.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 06, 2017, 06:12:35 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/sprite-projects-re-mortal-kombat-new-2d-shinnok-others-180430.0.html
This was the sig in question. Noting in case this comes up again. I merely removed and sent a PM for now.
Quote
And Adrian-OGT sucks.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 13, 2017, 03:48:12 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/leandro--88267
Leandro cursed after using his profile to stir the pot once again
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Odb718 on July 13, 2017, 03:51:34 pm
Either his age is a lie, or jesus I'm getting old. lol
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 13, 2017, 11:33:16 pm
I feel like Leandro should be banned for maybe 3 days (in addition to having his profile cursed); he already was warned about using his sig to insult people, and he did it again almost immediately.

EDIT: it's done
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 14, 2017, 01:37:17 am
Well he didn't add anything that I'm aware of. I didn't edit that part of his sig because it just went to a YouTube video. I should have assumed it was insulting and removed it all.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 18, 2017, 03:48:55 am
I unbanned Jenngra. He has been in the chat lately and he seems completely chill, he was likely really young when he got banned the first time.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 19, 2017, 08:03:23 pm
permanently banned the weirdo that keeps posting about suicide and romanticizing it. he had been warned before not to post those.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/eduardo-merenda-84000
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 27, 2017, 03:55:52 am
@artistropeadope: if you spam your picture of Cloud again talking about your mad art skills I'll ban you
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 28, 2017, 08:48:52 am
Banned the latest weegee alt (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/iamfrommaspyingonmfg-90468)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on August 06, 2017, 02:19:04 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2367233
Perma banned gbk for never answering my question
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 07, 2017, 04:31:15 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2367545

Gave Mr. Karate JKA a timeout for repeated use of slur even after being warned
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on August 24, 2017, 02:38:23 pm
@Raiat please stop posting random characters you uploaded as new releases. Between both of your accounts (kisake is banned pending a merge BTW), I've dumped at least 20 threads containing characters from 3 months ago to to 3-4 years ago, and you've already been PMed once in both English and Portuguese and you completely ignored it. Stop doing it.

Also it seems like a while back you slipped a ad fly clone in there. Don't do that.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 26, 2017, 07:01:41 pm
Banned Le@N for three days. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2371354)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 30, 2017, 05:49:18 pm
Banned Le@n for a week. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2372184)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on September 02, 2017, 05:57:54 pm
Banned a shitpost weegie account
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/weegeeisgoingtokillm-90629
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on September 02, 2017, 06:15:50 pm
Oh, come one. He isn't even trying now.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 10, 2017, 11:36:18 pm
Banned adriano gt for three days. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2373980)

In case this wasn't clear MK people, enough's enough. We're not the place for your cold war.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 11, 2017, 01:02:25 am
you can ban him for longer, you had warned him. Maybe its better to cut out his post from this thread

http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/mortal-kombat-new-2d-shinnok-others-169354.msg2373973.html#msg2373973

edit: cleaned the off topic.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on September 13, 2017, 06:35:20 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2374522
Endorfan warned in the Trump thread for being really hostile, high+mighty and all around colorful posting.

Next one's probably a ban because oh lordy
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 19, 2017, 03:23:31 am
Warned both adriano gt and Leandro for more MK shit (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2375558)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 03, 2017, 01:43:42 am
Warned Javon about his recent trend of shitposting (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2377921)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on October 05, 2017, 02:22:43 am
Lord M has been doing that thing he always does where he derails a topic and gets increasingly nasty and bitter towards everyone who disagrees with him, eventually escalating things to this point. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/marvel-vs-capcom-infinite-thread-177428.msg2378188.html#msg2378188) I gave him a warning and he immediately snapped back with some dumb response about how it's so unfair that he's being persecuted just because he told someone to go fuck themselves, so I banned him.

His last ban was for 6 months, so I've set his current one for a year.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 04, 2017, 09:43:06 pm
Banned Le@n for a month. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2382228)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 04, 2017, 10:06:04 pm
Banned his alt account too. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2382232)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 04, 2017, 10:08:35 pm
Current ban increased to three months. Stellar job burning your alt, friend. I wish it was always this easy!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 05, 2017, 02:47:27 am
why did you edit my reply you stupid bitch

(https://i.imgur.com/L5VECaD.jpg)

Because your nominations, as pointed out by Gui, were invalid. So rather than leave them, which would unquestionably lead to confusion that he would have to sort through later, I edited them to put a strikethrough as you should have done yourself.

Your response was to have a tantrum and then send me a PM as if you somehow thought we were on a schoolyard.

Let this public airing of your childishness be your lesson and your warning. The next shall be a timeout.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Odb718 on November 05, 2017, 06:42:21 pm
Somehow I was late to the banning of Le@n. My bad.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 06, 2017, 11:14:41 pm
Gave SlanDome a week in the corner for continuing to derail COTM with what can only be described as willful ignorance (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2382492)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 06, 2017, 11:16:17 pm
Changed it to can view but not post or register (it was a fullban before) and reduced it to 3 days. It's his first ban, a week is usually stage #2 in the cycle.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 24, 2017, 07:22:26 am
artistropeadope has been posting in random threads in Feedback, asking for his account to be deleted (again); since he ignored a moderator warning to stop, I went ahead and banned him for 30 days (it's his 3rd ban).

However, I gave him only a partial ban, only his ability to post is restricted. He will unfortunately not get his one wish, and instead will have to endure the torture of being able to log into this site.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on December 07, 2017, 12:30:54 am
Banned ShinRei/Rei/";x" (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=68828) for a month, his fourth ban, because the dude would not stop posting in a thread despite being warned twice not to do so.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 31, 2017, 08:03:22 pm
Banned Javon for 3 days (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2389394)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 31, 2017, 08:40:21 pm
Banned Slandome for a week (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2389405)

I sincerely hope I do not get a hat trick
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 11, 2018, 07:01:20 pm
Formal warning to Dexter Smash to stop spamming every motherfucking board with his motherfucking compilation (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2390750)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 14, 2018, 11:59:12 pm
3 day ban to Dexter Smash for continuing to motherfucking spam every motherfucking board with his motherfucking compilation (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2391211)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on January 16, 2018, 07:17:06 pm
Why all the shit talk? I'm not hiding. Admin edits what I do. I stand by what I said. If you posted/post a disrespectful response, fuck you. Period. Ban me for this, assholes. :8):

And that's aristropeadope great return after his last ban, which was caused by a near identical post, of course.

I think we should grant his wish and ban him permanently so he can evolve mugen by making every existing character's sprites asymmetrical and GGX quality.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 16, 2018, 07:40:37 pm
Eh, I think it's best to.wait until he does something objectiomable.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 17, 2018, 11:48:12 pm
Banned the latest Weegee alt. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mariobeatsgoku-91167)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on April 06, 2018, 12:17:03 am
VGames banned for 3 days for this (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2401256) colorful post on top of an already bad history of soapboxing and shoving his religion and faith into everything. Not here, son, not here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 06, 2018, 03:25:05 am
Warned FeliciaMainer123 about his stellar posting. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2404404)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 16, 2018, 02:28:51 am
Banned FeliciaMainer123 for immediately resuming his stellar posting. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2405265)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on June 24, 2018, 03:19:16 pm
A weirdo tried to repost already released characters with a type of AD FLY.  Removed it and added the site to the banned list.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 01, 2018, 02:12:37 am
1 day ban to n00b12 for going on whatever you want to call his spam/blog whatever these last few days
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 08, 2018, 06:37:59 pm
Banned rei for continuously trying to buy fights and then refusing to actually name who he was talking to and just spoilering his own replies to fights he started.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 08, 2018, 07:12:17 pm
I bumped Rei up to 3 months since this is his 5th ban
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 08, 2018, 11:54:47 pm
Capcomnator/Mazemerald banned for a month for ranting that those who ripped/made the sprites he used shouldn't get credit, that only the companies should, ignoring multiple mod warnings, then posting in as many release threads as he can while continuing to ignore staff.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on July 09, 2018, 02:56:05 am
Busy day today!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: JustNoPoint on July 22, 2018, 05:10:25 am
Banned and cursed Jesuszilla for once again hiding insults. A thing he has been told to stop doing for pretty much a decade and has been banned for in the past.

3 month ban because the last was 2 weeks. Next would have been a month and due to the repeat offenses we felt it should at the least be doubled.

Insults were hidden in his sig as so
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326390302225203202/470240280713625616/oh_look_I_translated_it_with_Google.png)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 22, 2018, 04:46:40 pm
"eat your mom pussy" ?  Guy got some real issues.
Cue in his morale support unit screaming about how he changed and he's no longer childish.Like everytime he gets caught.This looks bad on everyone that said he changed..
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 27, 2018, 01:27:20 am
Jesuszilla is now permabanned after he lied to Gill trying to pretend the insults he added to his profile towards other creators had been something he forgot about five years.

Thank you Gill for calling it to our attention.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 27, 2018, 06:10:12 am
See my post in the feedback thread on the matter. You're taking what I said and making an assumption with it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 31, 2018, 12:09:45 am
WilliamTheOctoling account deleted , it was a double of *
@AstroInkling45:

Please do not keep this up.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on September 18, 2018, 05:25:54 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2418159
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2418339

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Warned Chronan/Chrono Strife in PM after one of his "wondrous" pot stirring posts, trying to bait after a mod told him to post better, and his giant passive aggressive PM in response to me telling him his response was absolutely inappropriate.

Cut it out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 08, 2018, 10:11:05 pm
Warned BookwormGreen about his derailing posting in the MFFA outage topic (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2420503)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 19, 2018, 06:19:59 am
3 day timeout to Silent J for deciding that being told the rules was a great personal affront (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2421419)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on October 19, 2018, 12:18:36 pm
Throwing up some notation for Odb718:

RedDragonCats17 was warned for repeatedly switching topics in a development help thread while ignoring all advice on the specific issue being addressed
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 07, 2018, 10:48:30 pm
Warning to ymgxyc that a character release topic is no place to be Veruca Salt (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2423211)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 21, 2018, 12:40:02 am
Ban yet again to Jessica Smoke for derailing Character of the Month with the same old shit (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2424377)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 06, 2019, 02:09:00 am
Banned GTAguy for doing that thing he keeps doing (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/unknown-soldier-marvel-vs-capcom-assist-helper-w-i-p-185921.msg2430472.html#msg2430472). Couldn't find any previous bans, so it's only 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 22, 2019, 11:46:52 pm
Ban to Jessica Smoke for uncensored picture shit that was actually shit (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2432283)

Ban set at 3 months pending judgement for repeated behavior
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on March 08, 2019, 01:48:24 am
Jessica Smoke has contacted people saying that since theres a picture of a cartoon poop in some old screenshot inside the archive we have to let her post fetish pictures of girls shitting themselves.

This was obviously met with a lot of laughter and we sadly regret to inform we wont be resciding the ban as demanded.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 15, 2019, 01:16:26 am
This is an edit of jin's Kusanagi. @AnimugenZ: I have told you now 3 times to post these in Edits and Addons. If you continue to ignore this I will prevent you from posting in the release boards.

Recientemente te suda la chepa molestando, llevo mucho tiempo publicando aqui y n9 me han hecho problema, tu chepa se moja de rabia y haces berrinche pequeño soplador

Banned AnimugenZ over this colorful reply to Umezono's warning. 3 days.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 06, 2019, 03:58:52 pm
MA spam is happening again. just cleared another one of their accounts spamming the forums with propaganda.

Remember, anyone that behaves like that is not to be trusted and be careful with interactions with that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 11, 2019, 01:32:08 am
7 day ban to GTAGuy for continuing to do that thing he keeps doing again
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on August 03, 2019, 06:55:22 pm
SlanDome is out for a month for disregarding both of Speed's warnings not to post in the Discord thread and continued immaturity.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 13, 2019, 05:59:18 am
Macaulyn is prohibited from the SFV topic for his own good. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2450746)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on September 12, 2019, 03:40:01 pm
We’ve slapped mr ansatsuken with a 3 day ban for his juvenile troll bait
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 12, 2019, 08:13:35 pm
Re:Ansatsukens and alts

http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=93475

Nice try

Ban extended to three months
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 09, 2019, 12:52:39 am
2 week ban to Gtaguy for thinking that a warning to stay out of a thread was just a suggestion (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2456804)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 11, 2019, 12:06:05 am
http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/dbzrules666-35216

Ban increased to 2 months after Gtaguy caught posting with an alt account

Some of you guys, I swear

Sometimes I think you'd shoot the judge to get out of probation
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on October 11, 2019, 03:46:56 am
Is his current signature your work?
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 11, 2019, 05:21:16 am
A technical irony

The best kind of irony
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 25, 2019, 05:52:20 am
I'm going to go ahead and make this the formal warning for the tale of GeorgeMP and the Hedgehog's Dilemma. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2458358)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on November 13, 2019, 01:58:00 pm
GeorgeMP has been given a post limit.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 15, 2019, 09:55:41 pm
GeorgeMP has been given a post limit of 0 for the next three days (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2460668)

You want to try and flex and say this is a test you had better be deceased wrestler Andrew Martin
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 11, 2019, 06:01:03 am
ATTN: ICPJuggalo (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=87907)!

We are well aware of the alt you made, KillerK (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/killerk-93874).

We are well aware of why you made the alt and why you tried to spam to get your post count up. What turned from bemusement for when you were going to discover that we increased the post count requirements after the last time someone attempted this turned serious when you made your next alt, Whowantstoknow (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/whowantstoknow-93878).

So here we find ourselves at the point where it needs to be stated: STOP.

You are not getting one by us. You were never going to accomplish your goal to skew that poll. If you think you're gonna have a golden idea to do this next time you are not. You will eat a ban just like the last person who attempted this and if you hypothetically try again after that you will be permanently banned just like he was.

Have a nice day!
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on December 11, 2019, 01:27:40 pm
ATTN: concurseiro (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=86727)!

We are well aware of the alt you made, King (http://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=93875).

This account will very likely be banned unless there is a valid reason which would be the account isn't actually you. I PMed you on the matter, and I don't think you read my message.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 13, 2019, 10:57:36 pm
Late, but ICPJuggalo has been banned for a month.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 16, 2019, 04:35:14 pm
Can I talk in the SFV thread again?

Did you think there was an expiration date on the thread ban?

No, I think you can remove it. Check other threads I post on, specially on fighting game ones, what happened on the SFV thread was an exception to my behavior, not the rule.

What you think is immaterial, it will not be removed. You sowed the field with fire, and your harvest is ash. This is what a ban means.

What everyone thinks is immaterial, its a thought. Besides, like I said, it literally happened once and it was a minor thing, and not again in any other thread, banning me from a thread because of that is excessive at the very least.

Macaulyn, we have now reached the point where I am modding.

And I don't mod in PMs. You have been banned at least twice to my immediate recollection BECAUSE of your behavior in that specific thread.

It is not a minor exception.

It is the difference between you posting here and you getting banned for two years.

The fact that you think this is something that you can just keep posting at and ignoring the answers you are being given is indicative of every single time you have been banned. The way you interact with people has consequences and whether you accept that is not my concern. The consequences still exist.

EDIT: PM talking is over.

I know you are a mod. I'm merely asking you for a chance, like I said, its not like what happened there happens all the time, I just want to keep talking about the game, it won't even be that long until it dies anyway, because they're releasing the latest version now, with 40 characters, and I think all we'll get afterwards is costumes or another game. Regardless, what harm can it cause?

See the warnings thread for my final word on the matter.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 19, 2019, 06:29:41 am
User Mr ansatsuken was caught releasing child pornographic alt sff inside his latest character , in what he called "DEGENERATE MODE".

Unmarked adult releases are a banneable offense, child pornography however is not acceptable in anyway.

Ansatsuken has been banned. If any authorities request access to his personal data, including emails ips and other data for prosecution we will supply those.

People like Ansatsuken are human trash, and his insistance in sharing child pornography only shows what should be obvious to everyone in his life.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 25, 2019, 09:06:58 am
The ban continues

This is what you wanted, this was your big April plan

Don't get salty because you fucked up and got your present early
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on December 25, 2019, 05:06:47 pm
Ansatsuken made a video claiming that making people download child porn was his master plan for april fools in order to "prank" people and he just fucked up and made it too early.

Now he keeps trying to make accounts to worm back in.

This is the kind of person that thinks child pornography is a cool prank, this is shameful and I would be ashamed of being related to him in anyway.

This is how he spent his christmas, not with his family, but trying to prank people into getting child porn.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on February 01, 2020, 05:30:08 am
GeorgeMP has been limited to 0 posts a day for a week. See here (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2467295) for the catalyst that finally did it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on February 03, 2020, 03:41:14 am
Banned GTAguy for 3 months after this terrible post (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/unknown-soldier-released-gladiacloud-mazemerald-kenshiro99-and-motorroach-189046.msg2467332.html#msg2467332) showing how little he has learned from all the other times he's gotten banned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on February 04, 2020, 03:02:28 pm
re: the auction thread (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/re-auction-alert-189073.0.html)

Jesuszilla reported that Shin Rei (AKA 2Dee4Ever) is selling access to his discord which includes access to his WIP/beta builds for his compilation. This compilation is essentially a repackaging of content from various users of this community, with added tag code via the public add004 lifebar and some minor edits.

Considering that there is no easy way to access up to date work from Rei, who has admitted now that he does not believe the new work he did is entitled to be released publicly for free, this is akin to monetizing MUGEN, and furthermore, monetizing other people's content that he has not asked permission to use or credited properly. In response to the allegations and evidence posted, rather than making the work public or apologizing, Rei instead posted an hour long video mocking Jesuszilla and his facebook photos for his followers.

We at Guild do not condone any of the above behavior. We do not tolerate the monetization of MUGEN and will always encourage proper crediting of other's work.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on February 10, 2020, 01:25:05 am
RE: the above:

Le@n has been shown the door as well for the same thing but using Paypal rather than Patreon.

Both can donate to our Patreon or Paypal for exclusive access to the forum if they're so inclined to come back.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on March 03, 2020, 06:28:40 pm
You all may know me for being the hardass who has to remind people not to derail release and project threads with requests and questions about unrelated content

Well, normally people listen to me and stop doing that. RagingRowen, however, could not help himself. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2470202) So I have given him a 3 day "postblock" in which he can log in, but not post. Let that be a warning to people who continue to do this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on March 06, 2020, 02:21:33 pm
Dakangel/MangeX immediately given a 3 day vacation for encouraging a user to kill himself by "reminding him to buy stuff to clean up the mess" and linking a Wikihow article on cleaning up blood.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on March 23, 2020, 05:03:18 am
Banned -Ash- for a week for this wonderful exchange. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2472112)

We don't see dumbasses openly goad the mod staff into banning them, but when it happens, wowee wow wow. What a finish.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 30, 2020, 04:59:23 pm
Warning to SolidZoneNumberThatEscapesMe to stop getting demanding with his feedback (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2472930)

You guys start getting stir crazy, we'll throw you off the boat
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on April 09, 2020, 07:08:30 am
Suicide is a serious issue, and it is one I have grappled with myself, and requires a great deal of help and care. However, suicide should not and can not be used as a means to manipulate others. You should not EVER threaten someone with suicide when you are not getting what you want. It is grossly irresponsible to make someone feel responsible for whether you commit such an act. If you are at the point where you are experiencing such ideations, then you need to get professional or medical help immediately.

I reached out to GeorgeMP regarding his suicide topic and had a somewhat positive communication with him. However, he changed the subject to whether or not his 1 post per day limit could be increased or removed. I politely told him no. In response, he sent me a PM essentially saying he would rather kill himself than be in trouble with the forum staff. Needless to say this was extremely jarring for me as former patient and is clearly suicide baiting. He has been banned until further notice.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on April 09, 2020, 02:09:31 pm
Someone that would threaten others into doing what they want or theyll kill themselves can shove themselves feet first into a meat grinder for all I care. thats textbook manipulation.

Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on April 09, 2020, 10:45:40 pm
As for the ban length- it'll be for a year.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 17, 2020, 12:51:07 am
ComboAssassin20 given the boot for ignoring a mod warning, subsequently trying to argue with the mod in the same thread and having a meltdown. Currently 3 days, length being discussed.

He has a history of this and his old bans (5 years ago) apparently reached 6 months but he got to that in two bans. Currently we're doing a different cycle because 1 year seems real extreme for this.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Umezono on May 17, 2020, 09:37:28 pm
Kindest regards, GeorgeMP! I received your message after you decided, for whatever reason, to follow me to my own unrelated Discord server and beg me to read it.

GeorgeMP said:
OK, OK. I'm back.

I have reviewed the MFG forum rules several times(if you're wondering how, I saved a copy of the page to my computer), and from this, have determined that I have not violated any of the rules in my direct communications with you via forum PMs. And if you're about to show me this part of those rules:
"Do not lie, be honest, and do not present speculation or conjecture as fact."
Then read this:
"I was just stating my honest opinions, views and outlooks on life in general, not just about me getting what I want."
The keyword there is "honest".

In addition, "Do not suicide bait moderators.". Neither that nor any variation of it appears in those rules. Wanna know why that matters? Because when you ban someone for something that wasn't in the rules, then the person on the receiving end is either going to be like "Oh, sorry. I'll be better next time." or, in my case, it's just gonna seem like you're bullshitting them.

And if it really did warrant a ban, was it really even necessary to make it that long?

That leaves us with a final choice:

A: I missed something, and my ban was completely justified for that reason.
or
B: I didn't miss anything, and my ban was just complete bullshit.

Which one is it?

You may also share this message, and/or this conversation with the other higher-ups of the MFG forum for their two cents on the matter.

This is the final message to you.

I took the liberty of sharing this with the other moderators, and we have decided to extend your ban for another year. Thank you for your message.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 14, 2020, 11:34:45 pm
@daniel09 (https://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/daniel09-94710) if you post one more old creation or slightly "edited" thing as your own release you're getting a 3 day ban.

I've already trashed "your" Kirby Super Star screenpack for being a slight edit and the Sonic fullgame thread for dating back to 2016, both of which you posted as if they were yours.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 25, 2020, 04:36:42 am
@kevdres5 (https://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/kevdres5-90053) given a 3 day time out for posting old characters as new releases mechanically despite every one he posts being removed for the same reason, and not reading my posts saying why. This is a last ditch effort to get you to read why I keep recycling every one of these threads.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 29, 2020, 12:16:01 am
@rorgflag (https://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=94812) is taking a 3 day vacation for posting a random, contextless thread in the WIP section despite a direct mod warning to stop (he had done 3-4 of these). Oh, and the link was a adfly clone.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 30, 2020, 03:38:58 am
splash (https://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=94830) banned for being an alternate account of concurseiro (https://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=86727). This and his older alt, King (https://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=93875) (which has been banned since discovery) both pending a merge.

Discuss if concurseiro should get some form of punishment.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 11, 2020, 07:40:05 pm
duo_Ranger/Loud Howard given ban #5 (2 years) for taking such a great opportunity to be a garbage person. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2483159)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 26, 2020, 11:13:23 pm
ChaosLumpy6 is prohibited from posting in the CvtW thread and his alt MegaMushroom has been removed from the forum (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2484398)

Sometimes when a bunch of people are speaking to you you should actually pay attention to WHAT they are saying and not just that they are saying something
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on July 27, 2020, 10:26:22 pm
banned for 10 days
https://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/chaoslumpy6-90912
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 01, 2020, 02:14:43 pm
banned for 30 days

feel free to discuss lenght
https://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mazingahjh-92353
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 01, 2020, 11:13:38 pm
Generally a first time ban should only be like 3 days or something, but this is pretty fair. Just kept escalating and escalating shit for no reason.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 07, 2020, 08:28:43 am
Banned ChaosLumpy6 for a week just to get him on track

https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2485658

Your next one's a month buddy, stay out of that thread
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 10, 2020, 09:47:15 pm
3 days to AlphaGold for what may be the worst set of first posts this board has been privy to in at least a good while

https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2485957

Edit: Ban increased to three months for alt
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 13, 2020, 12:38:19 am
Must be hockey season because here's the hat trick

3 days to Lolokko for in order: telling people to go fuck themselves but thinking nobody would notice because it was in Portuguese, then claiming it was a joke that was lost in translation (which is why he didn't translate it naturally) then when told to find a new joke doubled down

Profile changed and cursed to something better suiting user's jokester sensibilities
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 18, 2020, 07:39:11 pm
Banned ChaosLumpy6 for a week just to get him on track

https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2485658

Your next one's a month buddy, stay out of that thread

Just gonna quote myself with the new length every time

1 month
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on August 20, 2020, 10:38:01 pm
"deus do gif" started posting gifs anywhere he could with links to his website. asked him not to. he did it again on a thread asking for resources , so now his site got filtered.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 13, 2020, 05:34:06 pm
Banned ChaosLumpy6 for a week just to get him on track

https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2485658

Your next one's a month buddy, stay out of that thread

Just gonna quote myself with the new length every time

1 month

3 months
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 14, 2020, 03:31:46 am
https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2491737

3 day ban to quietlife for the latest in a series of derails where he verbally attacks users for imagined slights
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 30, 2021, 07:44:16 pm
https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2499763

3 day ban to Charlie Bent for making his every post a plea for POTS style Spider-Man

Please get Bent... a clue about participating in a forum
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 02, 2021, 05:47:48 pm
Erasing more Archive accounts trying to do their usual song and dance.
3 more today so far.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on February 09, 2021, 04:13:05 pm


P.s. i saw what you did with your "creation".. Man idk what your trying to do, but that shoe character is like wtf.. Is this what you want? This what you wanna promote?? That garbage?
that was the meanest thing anyone has said to me. wow. in no way i promoted myself. i cant believe you came out of your face like that. in no way my question attacked anyone. i didnt link to any of my creations. That was fucked up...i didnt come at anybody. and not ONCE did i say those creations sucked. this legit hurt my feelings....i hate toxic energy


Dont take it personal, definitly not toxic, i just i re-read that.
the fantasy creations are so much right now its like no one uses them or they are good enough. You can even call this whole mugen a cartoon based fighter., ok now im stretching that definition by alot but  you know , Fantasy is what all these characters are. Kof, SF, Goku.
Cartoon shit like pokemon, animated shows are there in Mugen. Anime , and whatever the hell else. Like Batman vs Akuma, Batman is a good sprited cartoon character right there, ppl love this guy. The turtles they are there. Theres so much out there that you can compile it. Like dragons and shit. I wouldnt even know what the f they are called.

If you mean like original creations on mugen, i havent seen much good ones, but i do see a whole lot of shit from some older games that its ridiculous.i just kno Street Fighter and some major companies that made good amounts of spritesheets .There has to be original creations and artwork obvioisly not used here in mugenguild. Someone can take those and make a character out if it. Art right now is easy man, you dont have to even search, its right there.
I saw the simpsons shit, man they are horrible to play as. But its alright, those were made by one artist with almost 0 coding skills. You got that coding skill. So that NY shoe couldve been even greater. I like shoes btw.

I know Battleborn shut down but no need to be a jackass about it

Royce is a good man, how the fuck was any of that called for?

Yo man, It has nothing with Battleborn being cut this year. What made u think that? U trying to read my mind? U?

This ain't it man, being a dick for no reason makes you sound bitter and petty. You should definitely watch your tone and treat people how you want to be treated. DJ is one of the most coolest people in this community and you target his creations for no reason. What have you done in this community again?
Good shit. I re-read that, its not supposed to offend DJ, people  are petty scumbags , i have given community(not this one) alot of things you are not aware of. But you have done the same i'll bet.


P.s. i saw what you did with your "creation".. Man idk what your trying to do, but that shoe character is like wtf.. Is this what you want? This what you wanna promote?? That garbage?

Shut up dumbass, at least he did something.
Ive had it with this idiot. Come near me again and i will put your butthole in your mouth. So you can chew on a new type of gum, gay bitch.
I'm not sure what you're asking here tbh.... Are you asking why someone would want well established fighting game chars over someone like...Charlie Brown or something? Well, I'd say Ume already answered that. Especially when it comes to creation, I'd wager 90% of creators got into Mugen because they are/or at one time were practitioners in FGs. Had I myself not been into FGs, Mugen would have never caught my attention. I don't see the lack of fantasy though as you seem to be implying. Even with said roster. Most will have chars that have never been in the same game, at the same time. Or even with specific mechanics. A lot of them may have chars that weren't ever made in pixel format prior.

Whether it's Capcom, SNK, etc. Doesn't that still fit the criteria of fantasy? Especially if you mash those chars together. Let's be real here, there's little to no chance of these companies actually doing anything close to what a lot of creators here in Mugen have done. Mainly due to licensing rights, getting along with one another, and interest at all. There isn't gonna be another Capcom vs SNK. There isn't gonna be a Capcom x Shonen Jump or something else of the like. There won't even be a SF game with all the chars from previous games. Those only exist in fantasy lol. They can only exist here.
Yo, Mortal Kombat. Got Terminator, Robo-Cop. Tekkens got Aluma, STrert Fighter with those Fighting Layer costumes,. Examples of what companies are trying to do instead of being just about themselves. Fantasy is what exists and the potential is really high.

Man idk what your trying to do, but that shoe character is like wtf.. Is this what you want? This what you wanna promote?? That garbage?
Not everything for Mugen has to revolve around a human throwing punches and flinging weapons.  I'd play a pair of timbs vs 8-bit sprites of custom gameplay because that's why I like about fiddling with Mugen.  I keep a seperate roster for these kinds of stuff.
Yea we can agree, but his NY shoe needed to hit the hotlist,


Banned for homophobic insults.

Ill need others to set the ban time as I havent dealt with this person before, right now its set to two months.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 09, 2021, 05:40:59 pm
Well I was all a-ready to say how a week would be more justified for a first offense and then I ran across something interesting while I was reviewing the case

Jig's up ShadowHand (https://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=91879), two months stays for the general shittery and the alt
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 23, 2021, 09:58:15 pm
https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2502010

Just to make it official. This may be a little popularity contest with no stakes but an icon under your name, but if you try and sabotage it either to get your character in or to get those infamy clicks or even because you're bored you will get a time out.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 03, 2021, 04:17:54 pm
IKEISLEGEND is hereby prohibited from posting in RagingRowen's project thread. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2502698)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 16, 2021, 01:09:12 am
https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2503783

Just to reiterate, daniel09 enough is enough.

Pay attention to the rules of where you're posting or get that privilege taken away from you.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 21, 2021, 12:06:07 am
3 days to daniel09 for completely ignoring the warning
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on April 01, 2021, 01:07:45 am
https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2505191

1 week to Charlie Bent for continuing to request for things to be made for him where nobody asked

Please get Bent... some clarity over this holiday weekend
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 17, 2021, 11:29:18 pm
Banned ChaosLumpy6 for a week just to get him on track

https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2485658

Your next one's a month buddy, stay out of that thread

Just gonna quote myself with the new length every time

1 month

3 months

Making alts to try and mess with a poll gets you 6 months
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 20, 2021, 07:07:34 pm
3 days to ShadyScorpio for dickish behavior over people calling him out for taking credit for something he didn't even pay for

'Wog would be ashamed
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 27, 2021, 06:07:58 am
3 days to xnex

No infamy, just the cold hand of inevitability
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 31, 2021, 03:56:35 am
3 days to cesar the shadow for aggressive simping
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on September 03, 2021, 04:31:31 pm
https://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/help-swf-193837.msg2516414.html#msg2516414

this guy was trying to go around the filters to link to archive. warned.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 04, 2021, 05:06:09 pm
To El Parasito de la Web, stop posting releases that aren't yours or you will be shown the door. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2516524)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 04, 2021, 09:53:50 pm
3 days to cesar the shadow for aggressive simping

1 week
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 06, 2021, 06:04:27 am
To El Parasito de la Web, stop posting releases that aren't yours or you will be shown the door. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2516524)

1 week due to not even hesitating.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on November 07, 2021, 01:17:39 am
3 days to xnex

No infamy, just the cold hand of inevitability
On to ban #2 now. One week.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 05, 2021, 05:22:22 am
banned for 30 days

feel free to discuss lenght
https://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/mazingahjh-92353

So it is again

Cursory statement to notify it will increase with every new alt
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 13, 2021, 03:27:19 am
Warning to roggle fraggle rock or whatever (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2522349)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 23, 2021, 01:39:40 am
Ban for just choosing a different board to spam on, 2 weeks because he'd been banned before for the exact same thing and shouldn't have needed the warning in the first place
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on January 14, 2022, 03:24:08 am
Banned NotOppositeSide (https://mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=97776) for three days for the extremely blatant alt account and for haranguing SeanAltly to make a character.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on April 07, 2022, 10:16:15 pm
Warning to IKEISLEGEND. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2529242)

The cheese is old and moldy, where is the bathroom
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on April 09, 2022, 06:17:16 am
Ban for stevemarlboro/Marlboro Games, for 3 days. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2529313)

Happened so fast I didn't even get a chance to post the warning here.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Iced on May 02, 2022, 09:42:24 pm
Banned beterhands for ten days for posting the same black listed site that has spammed this forum with porn and hatespeefc and trying to explain how to work around the filters.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 19, 2022, 08:34:39 pm
Warning to GTAguy yet again to stop doing his weird parasocial relationship thing. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2533137)

You don't know these people. You don't have any say or control in their lives. Stop it.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 27, 2022, 04:30:21 am
One week to Joey the Tricky for the creatively bankrupt hollywood reboot nobody asked for. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2535205)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: ArgusJord on July 27, 2022, 05:15:49 pm
3 days to Kolossoni for not knowing when to put down the pipe. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2535240)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 01, 2022, 07:09:44 pm
kano1, stop making alts. If you are having log in issues, contact us on the discord but the next time I see one your main is getting banned as well.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on August 01, 2022, 09:56:56 pm
Banned THE SHADOW/cesar the shadow for 2 weeks (ban #3) for the delightful combination of ignoring a mod warning not to post in a thread while also using that post to complain about "wokeness" and to denigrate people with AIDS. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2535490)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 05, 2022, 10:48:58 pm
Fun's over (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2539690)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 11, 2022, 05:32:48 am
Just in case anybody else can't grasp the meaning of "Fun's over" (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2539915)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 29, 2022, 09:32:43 pm
First order of business:Aumio Khan clearly decided over the break that this was no longer a part of the community he wanted to be part of by repeatedly ignoring mod warnings. His permanent ban is reinstated and a lift is non-negotiable. We wish him the best in his future endeavors.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on December 01, 2022, 07:41:51 pm
User  Synck a.k.a. Duck Ass (https://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/synck-80336) has been banned for 7 days after claiming responsibility for a long settled issue and wishing the community a seropositive death. Regardless of the validity of his statement, we do not need anyone bringing up past conflicts out of the blue.

Keep your pettiness, your name calling and specially your damage control within your circle jerk.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 18, 2022, 02:51:19 am
Hello Speedpreacher, I'm just inquiring on what the length of my ban on Discord was. Conflicting reports confused me and I'm making sure I hear the answer from the source.

Sure thing, but

I don't mod in PMs.

Spoiler: A Series of Unfortunate Events (click to see content)

At this point I'm thinking some time in 2024

Hope this clears everything up for you
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 10, 2023, 09:05:19 pm
 Banned a Shinrei/I'm not gonna list all the names alt. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2543263)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Jmorphman on September 14, 2023, 08:08:26 am
Banned Charles the fighter for a series of super aggressive, completely uncalled for posts that culminated in this one (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2551131), coming soon after a direct mod warning.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Yuko on November 08, 2023, 05:19:53 pm
Banned JolarValenflower (https://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/jolarvalenflower-99747) for 3 days, warned multiple times not to request characters to be made, but kept doing so in different release threads (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2552718).
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Foobs on March 08, 2024, 12:26:28 am
Banned Emerie The GOAT for a week for posting a mugen video with a porn interlude.
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 21, 2024, 07:33:41 am
Clock starts now, gohkenytp. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2556677)
Title: Re: Warnings v2
Post by: Zemilia on March 21, 2024, 02:36:20 pm
A bit late on the warnings post (had to literally run to work), but it didn't take long for Him to respond. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2556684) Twice. (https://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2556686) even when we told him not to after a warning.

Therefore, he's out.