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Started by Iced, February 24, 2012, 09:43:26 pm
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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#701  November 14, 2012, 03:07:47 pm
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tortuga gensho's month ban is proper.
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#702  November 14, 2012, 04:32:51 pm
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Agreed
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#703  November 14, 2012, 10:44:17 pm
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as for his previous ban it was set by me and it was over similarly stupid bullshit, i can't remember exactly what though
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#704  November 14, 2012, 11:06:27 pm
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"Quit being a fucking idiot" is all we have to go on.

Didn't realise it was his second. Month is fine.

I'd never even seen him before that thread.


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#705  November 14, 2012, 11:08:09 pm
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pretty sure this isn't his second but rather like his... fourth? i remember he shitstirs a lot
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#706  November 14, 2012, 11:21:14 pm
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pretty sure this isn't his second but rather like his... fourth? i remember he shitstirs a lot
There was only one previous in the ban log and that's the only thing I could find. :-\
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#707  November 15, 2012, 04:50:54 am
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His post history shows a lot of his horrendous attitude.
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#708  November 15, 2012, 05:25:19 am
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Oh, he was banned before for the same thing?

GOH

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#709  November 15, 2012, 10:37:49 am
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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#710  November 30, 2012, 02:42:21 pm
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I don't think Navana should be banned because he didn't answer a question in a thread. He was ignoring you, if he's capable of doing that, then we should all be capable of ignoring him.
that's not how forum moderation works at all
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#711  November 30, 2012, 03:00:27 pm
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Honestly, I agree with Rajaa. It was an obvious attempt at gaining attention that ended up in some people talking about Yugioh and MI, which was possibly the best result as we stopped paying attention to whatever he said. We should do that each time he pulls that stunt, either that or ignoring him. Banning him for three days does nothing at all, in fact he may think he's getting more attention, enough to be banned, and attempt again.
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#712  November 30, 2012, 03:16:12 pm
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Good luck getting everyone to go along with the "let's just ignore him and he'll go away" plan, that always works.
As long as he's pulling crap, there will be people to pay attention to him, and it will turn into something like this that spans several days of wondering if he needs to be banned or not. And the fact is, he's causing that knowingly and on purpose.
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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#713  December 01, 2012, 12:45:02 am
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Ignoring a moderator is only a serious problem if the moderator is directing someone to stop breaking rules.  As far as I know making a fake MI, linking to a fake MI, lying (if in fact it is a lie) about making a fake MI or anything to do with a fake MI is not against any rules.
But... pissing off users, mods and admins IS against any rules?? I mean, I've nothing against Navana, but he's clearly making trouble and bothering with his attitude, and this isn't new. And there's a lot of people that has been banned before because of this, why he could make a difference??

Now, about getting permabanned or just banned for a time, I washed my hands... there's a lot of people who want Navana permabanned (since admins to normal users), but that's not my case

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#714  December 01, 2012, 01:37:04 am
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You all have an ignore option. It's in your profile. Apply it to him if he annoys you. That way you have to actively be annoyed by him. Feel free to use it.

We would prefer that than banning because is this truly and honestly worth a perma ban? Really? He's annoying a few people so permaban?

Use your ignore option please. It's far simpler than us doing an unjustified permanent ban to solve a problem that is mostly other people who can't ignore someone.


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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#715  December 01, 2012, 01:42:26 am
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why ban anyone under that logic?

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As far as I know making a fake MI, linking to a fake MI, lying (if in fact it is a lie) about making a fake MI or anything to do with a fake MI is not against any rules.
this instance isolated is not worth action. this instance, taking into account everything that previously happened, is.
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#716  December 01, 2012, 01:58:49 am
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I don't think Navana should be banned because he didn't answer a question in a thread. He was ignoring you, if he's capable of doing that, then we should all be capable of ignoring him.
that's not how forum moderation works at all

Given the question that he was being asked, he wasn't being moderated, he was being picked on.

Also, my statement was more along the lines of EVERYONE ignoring him when he's not breaking any rules, not how to moderate him. But we all know that's not going to happen in reality.
Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#717  December 01, 2012, 02:04:49 am
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why ban anyone under that logic?

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As far as I know making a fake MI, linking to a fake MI, lying (if in fact it is a lie) about making a fake MI or anything to do with a fake MI is not against any rules.
this instance isolated is not worth action. this instance, taking into account everything that previously happened, is.
People being annoyed by him is totally different to someone posting porn, or shock images, or being a complete asshole. He makes posts that don't annoy me at all. Not even slightly. He's only annoying if you engage with him. He posts the same way regardless of your interaction. This is kind of self inflicted. You get annoyed by him because you let him annoy you.

If you want that to stop, ignore him. Maybe it'll stop altogether and we don't need to spend time fucking with fake accounts of him coming back over and over.


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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#718  December 01, 2012, 02:10:03 am
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If he were that annoying in something regarding actual mugen works, I would support the ban, but he seems to get annoying in unrelated sections so a permaban is too much, still a 3 days ban might be too short, a week or month long ban should be deserved now if only because he has been banned too often.


(personally he hardly ever annoys me, as attention whoring seems to be his bigger fault is nto as bad as ruining topic or being too rude to people)
Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#719  December 01, 2012, 06:29:14 am
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People being annoyed by him is totally different to someone posting porn, or shock images, or being a complete asshole.
the amount of people that get banned over porn or shock images is minimal compared to the amount of people banned for being annoying or assholes, so that's not exactly relevant. plus if someone's being a complete asshole, put them on ignore. it's just words, right. it's not anything illegal. why ban anyone for that.

what counts as annoying or being an asshole are clearly subjective things. while he might not annoy you, he has annoyed other users to the point some staff members believe navana deserves a ban.

attention whoring seems to be his bigger fault is nto as bad as ruining topic
his attention whoring ruins threads.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1671044
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1669682
it also creates shit threads by proxy
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/reacting-146186.0.html

Given the question that he was being asked, he wasn't being moderated, he was being picked on.
he was being moderated on grounds of dishonesty
the rules said:
Do not lie, be honest
a rule he disregarded several times. you might as well remove that line from the rules. while i can easily put him on ignore (just like i could with any offensive user), i don't believe the rest of the userbase should be subject to his constant horseshit.
Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#720  December 01, 2012, 08:01:33 am
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good points, I guess it's similar to the gbk case, where the people (including staff ) that he managed to piss off all wanted him bnned, while the people uninvolved did not even want him banned.