Story is indeed a sequel, takes place shortly after Rev 2
They literally restarted almost everything from scratch.
Game systems and the traditional Guilty Gear stuff was thrown out the window for something fresh
Naoki Hashimoto did the theme song for this one, just like in Xrd. Ishiwatari is also in charge of the music
Its not a PS4 exclusive
HOLY SHIT!! :D :D Arc System Works is really on fire. It seems that will be a huge improvement over the last titles.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: k6666orochi on September 30, 2019, 02:37:57 am
May Trailer
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: Mgbenz on October 01, 2019, 03:39:33 pm
I'm glad they're finally utilizing Axl's time powers.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: D.R.B on October 13, 2019, 12:56:53 pm
Axl
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: senorfro on October 14, 2019, 05:18:09 am
I'm probably in the minority, but I'm not really feeling this art style (which is like Xrd). The designs so far are cool, the colors are great, the animations are nice...when it's during normal gameplay. The second it zooms in, whether for cut scenes or dramatic points or whatever, it looks ugly. There's no true curves or circles or smooth continuous lines, as there's jagged lines everywhere. I almost want to say don't zoom in. If it's not zoomed in, it looks awesome. Otherwise, the art zooming in looks rough/unfinished. I know it's a type of method to animate, but I've been hearing lots of people saying how gorgeous it is, when it kind of isn't at a closer look.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: k6666orochi on November 04, 2019, 04:36:34 am
New trailer
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: LisaMcRad on November 04, 2019, 04:56:28 am
I'm surprised that gameplay dropped but...
I'm totally not digging that UI
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: Macaulyn97 on November 04, 2019, 05:10:31 am
New trailer [youtube]https://youtu.be/mZJSCtsnhm0[/youtube]
Characters have their own theme songs? I loved Chipp's one.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: PRØJECT.13 on November 05, 2019, 02:28:56 am
Holy shit, Chipp is swole as shit now. Gotta call him Chunk Zanuff when the game comes out.
Title: Re: GUILTY GEAR STRIVE
Post by: k6666orochi on November 18, 2019, 04:43:04 am
GUILTY GEAR -STRIVE- Trailer#1
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: Mysticus92 on November 18, 2019, 08:23:44 am
Oh my good! Faust looks damn skinny in this game at the end of the video!
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: MAO11 on November 18, 2019, 03:39:31 pm
thought it was zappa at first.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: 【ＭＦＧ】gui0007 on November 19, 2019, 12:06:43 am
So finally we have an actual name and damn my hype just grown.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: yaret on November 19, 2019, 08:01:00 pm
this game will come out late 2020 so I would like no seeing this game for a long time.xD it doesnt make sence to up my hype for nothing :)
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on November 22, 2019, 11:05:05 am
I dont like the videos I have seen of gameplay, its looks like a really cut down version from Rev2, like some combos from 3 or 5 hits max, doesnt mean the combos cant be longer, but thats most of them, also everything does huge damage.
People is comparing this to SFV, hope they dont stay that way, looks a lot more restricted.
And I would be really mad if its more restricted and has less characters than before, the game looks gorgeous but I want gaemplay too, its my favorite fighting game, so, if we are gonna get less combo options and mechanics, at least give us a decent amount of characters.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 22, 2019, 04:42:04 pm
People are saying that the game is horrible to watch but very fun to play; sadly, the only thing we can do is take their word for it until a demo is out.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: Macaulyn97 on January 19, 2020, 09:02:43 am
Faust looks really creepy
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on January 30, 2020, 11:39:27 am
Thats a good gameplay to see how it will play.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: yaret on March 19, 2020, 03:28:23 pm
this game deserve our love, vote with your wallet. (https://i.ibb.co/4VgNRdp/xriowbb2gjn41.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on March 19, 2020, 09:36:41 pm
You can also apply to play the closed beta, but its at random, you can get a code or not.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: D.R.B on March 22, 2020, 02:08:19 am
Millia is here
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
and so is Zato-1
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: WizzyWhipitWonderful on March 22, 2020, 03:36:40 pm
So Millia shops at the same store Kolin does....lol
Zato's been working out too.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on June 12, 2020, 02:30:43 pm
We will have a character reveal today.
The next #GuiltyGearStrive reveal is happening on @IGN's #SummerofGaming
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: RagingRowen on June 13, 2020, 01:03:23 am
Well here ya' go.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: MAO11 on June 13, 2020, 08:09:04 pm
she looks ok , i prefer her old design with the fangs and sadistic smile.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: k6666orochi on June 24, 2020, 01:21:04 am
Millia and Zato gameplay
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: 【ＭＦＧ】gui0007 on June 24, 2020, 06:25:29 am
Cool at all but i expected too much i guess. I got hyped for a new and suprising character reveal on New Game+ Expo, but it was another gameplay video.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 01, 2020, 04:43:23 am
Leo Whitefang and Nagoriyuki trailer. No gameplay sound likely means the voice actors cannot record due to the pandemic.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: 【ＭＦＧ】gui0007 on August 01, 2020, 05:41:37 am
No gameplay sound likely means the voice actors cannot record due to the pandemic.
Incorrect. Since the previous trailers, even the Faust's one got no voice acting so it's not because pandemic. It's because ArcSys just don't want to put voice acting in the trailers, that simple.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: yaret on October 11, 2020, 05:08:46 am
Giovanna is here to enter on the game.!
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: Kirishima on October 11, 2020, 05:14:57 am
Vanessa what are you doing
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: rgveda99 on October 11, 2020, 05:32:22 am
Giovanna's design looks like it was inspired from Bungo Stray Dogs.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: Macaulyn97 on October 11, 2020, 05:59:42 am
OH MY GOD, ITS LITERALLY THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT WHEN I SAW HER IN THE THUMBNAIL!!!
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: yaret on October 11, 2020, 06:15:02 am
she looks so intresting and unit and she doesnt look anime style at all like she come from jamaica or puerto rico.xD
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: TurnPile on October 11, 2020, 06:25:09 am
Doggo is nice. Doggo is cute.
On the other hand, hey Anji, how are you doing now?
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: yaret on October 11, 2020, 07:41:26 am
Release day (https://i.ibb.co/F5hCyvg/lanzamiento.png) (https://ibb.co/gSrhf1z) season 1 before releasing it, you know they need your money.xD (https://i.ibb.co/wSX2rdr/season1.png) (https://ibb.co/rxSXfQf) Early purchase bonus (https://i.ibb.co/rGbKNCX/easrly-purchase.png) (https://ibb.co/N61gb8G) Open beta next year so be sure to preorder early hehe nah I will wait one year later to buy it. (https://i.ibb.co/vhQ78c8/open-beta.png) (https://ibb.co/Nrm8zFz)
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: Handmaiden of the Seascape on October 11, 2020, 08:55:56 am
Please, ArcSys, make me CARE about Giovanna and don't you dare to make her a high execution character.
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: D.R.B on October 11, 2020, 01:54:33 pm
The silhouette makes it easy to mistake her for I-No
Off topic : Isn't it the time to change the title to Guilty Gear Strive ?
Title: Re: New GUILTY GEAR Comming 2020
Post by: Mysticus92 on October 11, 2020, 04:38:13 pm
I'm glad they finally brought back Anji.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: yaret on October 12, 2020, 10:40:26 pm
tag system? :???: (https://i.ibb.co/vX6XXQX/tag.png) (https://ibb.co/y4c44Y4) I love Giovanna's theme
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Darkflare on October 13, 2020, 06:29:21 am
Haha... I think such a win pose is not possible anymore now. Even if it was all about suggestion XD
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: QuickFist on February 25, 2021, 03:37:42 pm
Anyone up for some games in XX Accent Core (Steam)? Kinda hard to find a lot of people online
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: k6666orochi on June 06, 2021, 04:35:47 pm
New trailer
They announced the first season pass will have a total of 5 characters the las 3 have 2 new stages and more story
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 06, 2021, 07:43:39 pm
...so nobody else is gonna talk about how GG Strive only has a base roster of 15 characters? Because honestly, that's...uh...kinda too small if you ask me. Especially when compared to other past Guilty Gear games.
Also, sad that Baiken wasn't brought back for this game. But I am more upset that we're already at Strive and we STILL didn't get Bridget back! What the fuck?!
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 06, 2021, 08:47:22 pm
Its made by Arc System Works, I would not be surprised if they sold 15 more characters as DLC on day 1.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: yaret on June 06, 2021, 09:52:05 pm
yes, but its only to buy this game on sales 4 months later :)
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: GTOAkira on June 07, 2021, 12:36:22 am
They also mentionned that the first dlc will come in july and will be a totally new character while the dlc character planned for august will be a returning character.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 07, 2021, 10:01:14 am
Its made by Arc System Works, I would not be surprised if they sold 15 more characters as DLC on day 1.
Jesus christ...that would mean half of the roster is locked behind DLC.
You know what other game locked half of the roster behind DLC? BlazBlue Cross Tag! And I absolutely despise that game for doing that shit, too!
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 07, 2021, 10:28:19 am
Technically the business strategy was you buy half the game for the half the price, see if you like it, and buy the other half if you do. The total price (not counting 2.0) was still less than other ArcSys titles, but then you'd hope so since it was mostly an asset dump (though people paid full price for Marvel 2 back in the day, hah).
Ultimately they could've just put out a free demo, but this is ArcSys. It'd only really make sense if this was the early-mid 2000s where you bought physical, but ended up not liking the game at all and lost money because you couldn't get a full refund.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Darkflare on June 07, 2021, 09:08:24 pm
Y'all making it out like 15 characters is a small roster. For a 1v1 fighter at launch, it's not. It's fine. All the other games with big rosters either are tag fighters and/or had DLC over time. There's also the matter of what asset can be reused.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: k6666orochi on June 08, 2021, 05:03:47 am
.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 08, 2021, 10:23:40 am
For comparison, Xrd's base roster had 13 characters or so.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 10, 2021, 11:07:54 am
Now that the game is released on pc the game has finally been datamined.
As shown by the existence of certain folders in the Character folder the 5 dlc characters are...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Asuka, Happy Chaos, Goldlewis, Jam and Jack-O
Not that I don't think the DLC is wrong, but there's a chance that what was leaked may have just been story mode data.
Well, that would be a good point (4 of them because of their heavy story relevance and the 5th one because she shows up in the Story Mode's staff roll sequence)...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
...except Sin, Elphelt, Dizzy and even Testament show up in that staff roll sequence as well, and no word about them showing up in the character folder
EDIT: oh yeah, forgot to post the GG Strive Story Mode staff roll images that got leaked:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3aXsrAWQAIt9FU.jpg:orig) from left to right: Sin (not playable), Ramlethal, Elphelt (not playable), Ky, Dizzy (not playable), Testament (not playable, new design) (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415205668300259338/853363743287410708/SPOILER_E3tFs4EXwAkafGD.jpg) from left to right: Jam (leaked DLC character, new model), Kum Haehun (not playable) (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415205668300259338/853365033182429194/SPOILER_E3tFsGkWYAo0nzO.jpg) from left to right: Anji, Baiken (not playable)
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Mgbenz on June 13, 2021, 03:34:20 pm
Now that the game is released on pc the game has finally been datamined.
As shown by the existence of certain folders in the Character folder the 5 dlc characters are...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Asuka, Happy Chaos, Goldlewis, Jam and Jack-O
Not that I don't think the DLC is wrong, but there's a chance that what was leaked may have just been story mode data.
Story character data are in a separate folder. Story NPCs like Vernon and Erika are there too. Those b5 characters are specifically in the folder for playable characters. Their 3d model data are inside too including for one character who didn't show up in story mode besides a cameo but they used a literal image file of their Xrd model for it.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 13, 2021, 05:15:26 pm
more GG Strive Story Mode staff roll images got leaked:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415205668300259338/853647706294714378/SPOILER_Untitled.png) from left to right: Millia, Zato, Robo-Ky (not playable, still just a head), Venom (not playable, new casual wear?) (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415205668300259338/853648051611500564/SPOILER_Oh_boy.png) Slayer seems to have a new model as well
aside from that, Answer and Raven were also reportedly seen during the story mode staff roll...no word on Bridget or Zappa, though
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Magma MK-II on June 14, 2021, 12:43:26 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
About damn time they made That Man into an actual character.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 16, 2021, 11:43:29 am
Man, I am having lots of fun with creating the TCRF article for this game, because holy shit is it a treasure trove of unused content, and I am sure I am only scratching the surface with this at the moment: https://tcrf.net/Guilty_Gear_-Strive-
Hell, there are leftovers for an earlier build of Dragonball FighterZ and even leftovers for a scrapped Guilty Gear Xrd REV 3!
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive Comming on April 6 2021 Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Momotaro on June 16, 2021, 01:59:33 pm
Now that the game is released on pc the game has finally been datamined.
As shown by the existence of certain folders in the Character folder the 5 dlc characters are...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Asuka, Happy Chaos, Goldlewis, Jam and Jack-O
Not that I don't think the DLC is wrong, but there's a chance that what was leaked may have just been story mode data.
Well, that would be a good point (4 of them because of their heavy story relevance and the 5th one because she shows up in the Story Mode's staff roll sequence)...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
...except Sin, Elphelt, Dizzy and even Testament show up in that staff roll sequence as well, and no word about them showing up in the character folder
EDIT: oh yeah, forgot to post the GG Strive Story Mode staff roll images that got leaked:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3aXsrAWQAIt9FU.jpg:orig) from left to right: Sin (not playable), Ramlethal, Elphelt (not playable), Ky, Dizzy (not playable), Testament (not playable, new design) (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415205668300259338/853363743287410708/SPOILER_E3tFs4EXwAkafGD.jpg) from left to right: Jam (leaked DLC character, new model), Kum Haehun (not playable) (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415205668300259338/853365033182429194/SPOILER_E3tFsGkWYAo0nzO.jpg) from left to right: Anji, Baiken (not playable)
This character "lifting hand" looks pretty similar to previous game. Actually, I'm pretty glad she didn't seems to have been over-censored for 2021... I can't waith know more about these DLC charcters, and having some confirmation of them.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Umezono on June 16, 2021, 06:07:03 pm
ned, you make so many posts about "censorship" of female characters in fighting games, why is this such an important issue to you
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Momotaro on June 16, 2021, 08:13:00 pm
ned, you make so many posts about "censorship" of female characters in fighting games, why is this such an important issue to you
It's true that I said it for both Shermie and "this" GG Strive character, beeing glad they are still beautiful and sexy.
I'm not really happy with the idea that some content have to be adapted to avoid some twitter drama I like character design. I don't like when it become bland. Male or female. It just happens that females are more censored. One male exemple can be SF5 Abigail's nipples, hidden afer the first trailer.
I also have interest in regional changes in classic games... it's very intersting.
voilà
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Japanese Jesus on June 18, 2021, 05:53:15 pm
I'm surprised this game is already more successful than Xrd which had so much more content.. I think these new fans would be blown away by REV 2.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: yaret on June 19, 2021, 05:08:22 pm
I'm surprised this game is already more successful than Xrd which had so much more content.. I think these new fans would be blown away by REV 2.
I think Xrd SIGN (the first release of Xrd) was similar/compatible to Strive in terms of content, & then Revelator & Rev 2 came out & added more to it.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kohaku~★ on June 20, 2021, 06:28:31 am
I was wondering why's everyone flipping their shit over May's theme and decided to see what's going on.
It is now stuck in my head for the past few days now.
Send help plz.
Maek it stahp
Why is it so catchy!?
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Darkflare on June 21, 2021, 12:34:04 pm
I have Ky's and Boss Nago's theme in mine.
This album with a fighting game attached is really good.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Momotaro on June 22, 2021, 07:04:43 pm
First dlc [youtube]https://youtu.be/bOCl4RcBBJU[/youtube]
I dont know what to say because I dont like this type of characters my hype is still for Jam because she reminds me Chun-le
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Seadragon77 on July 24, 2021, 12:22:52 am
For anyone curious about how Goldlewis will play, they released a Starter Guide recently (https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2021/jul/22/goldlewis-guilty-gear-strive-starter-guide/). Here's the Cliff Notes version of it..
-Behemoth Typhoon is his main move as it is done with ANY half circle motion and Heavy Slash. The versions have the following effects: -Forward (41236+HS) is the long range version -Reverse 2 to 8 (21478+HS) knocks opponents backwards for juggle combos -Forward 2 to 8 (23698+HS) is a launcher -Reverse (63214+HS) has fast startup -Reverse Vertical (69874+HS) combines the Forward and the Forward 2 to 8 effects [Long range launcher] -Forward 8 to 2 (89632+HS) combines the Reverse and the Forward Vertical effects [Fast starting overhead] -Reverse 8 to 2 (87412+HS) hits low -Forward Vertical (47896+HS) hits overhead
-He has a meter known as the 'Security Level'. This increases over time and powers his other moves, namely his mini gun (Skyfish) and his bomb (Thunderbird). The meter resets when these moves are used.
-Both Skyfish and Thunderbird are very useful against projectiles.
-He has two supers. The first one is Down with the System (HCB, F+P) and the other is Burn It Down (QCFx2+K). Down with the System has an extra command if it hits at close range - Doing a 360 motion and P adds another hit to the move and the more 360's you do, the more hits it does. Burn it Down is meant to lock the opponent down. The higher the Security Level is, the more hits the laser will do.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: D. HoChoy on July 25, 2021, 04:33:38 pm
This is the first Guilty Gear game I ever seriously played and I have to say color me impressed. Combat is a long shot from the previous games according to sources, however.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: senorfro on August 15, 2021, 11:31:22 pm
Looks like she can fight with the mask on or off
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 16, 2021, 04:24:14 am
Her theme slaps.
Someone make a gif of her hula hooping animation kthnx
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: k6666orochi on August 26, 2021, 03:08:20 am
Jack-O' - Starter Guide
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on August 26, 2021, 06:54:31 am
Note patches are up on their site.
To be honest, only I-no, Zato and Anji seem to get a really good buff, others including May and Sol got smaller buffs.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on October 14, 2021, 01:25:08 pm
Again, patch notes are on the site.
Also this account is uploading official comparission vids: https://twitter.com/GUILTYGEAR_PR/status/1448596946386493443?t=5JI7UBj4dXWajGM8XW53zg&s=19
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Momotaro on October 14, 2021, 06:09:25 pm
Nice... also. Still no news of the next character. After their last TGS video full of "nothing" about GG... -_-
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Momotaro on November 12, 2021, 10:02:53 am
meh i prefer the old design , the new one looks generic anime waifu.
Same here, I just will otherwise call this Testament Female basically, if Testament is supposed to be Non-Binary, outside of the ENG VA, none of it stands out in any fashion even compared to say Bridget.
Otherwise if she plays fine, I'll be rooting for her to atleast bring back Testament's original gameplay style.
And yeah, I do plan on buying this game at a later time, I just never really had the chance to respond here due to forgetting.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 29, 2022, 03:29:51 pm
I'll just say one thing: Testament being non-binary is not based on whether you like it or not, nor on what they wear, and not respecting someone's gender identity, even if its a character, is quite a "yikes".
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kohaku~★ on March 29, 2022, 05:53:06 pm
Regardless of the situation can I say that I've been listening to Testament's theme nonstop for a few days now? I also love their new design, there's something about it that just clicks with me for some reason... It's probably the top hat.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Xhominid on March 29, 2022, 06:54:58 pm
I'll just say one thing: Testament being non-binary is not based on whether you like it or not, nor on what they wear, and not respecting someone's gender identity, even if its a character, is quite a "yikes".
Everything you said there is a "yikes" because I seriously hate every part of that creeping up. They designed Testament so much like a girl that to me and others, she might as well be a girl. So don't be trying to suddenly be on some high horse with me for a fictional character like somehow it's just that evil when people have made fun of characters like Cloud in this exact situation for less. They could have easily just made Testament slightly more girly than basically surpassing Bridget, there's a major difference.
Otherwise like I said before, if they didn't change Testament's moveset too much, then THEY may be fun to watch but as it seems like they did... guess not(I only heard that they kept the spirit of Testament's style but otherwise the moveset is gutted like many others).
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Momotaro on March 29, 2022, 08:10:24 pm
As a "girl" he's perfect. But I don't recognize Testament at all.
I hope they will not mess Jam in the future...
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Keku on March 31, 2022, 01:36:55 am
They designed Testament so much like a girl that to me and others, she might as well be a girl. So don't be trying to suddenly be on some high horse with me for a fictional character like somehow it's just that evil when people have made fun of characters like Cloud in this exact situation for less.
Except he's right. They explicitly stated Testament is agender. It's not suggested, it's not hinted. It's explicit. This is from word of god. Misgendering them on purpose like that is quite the faux pas, vro. We're not in 2005 anymore.
As much as I hate that word, BIG yikes lmao
Speaking of gender neutral, Stain State and succubi placement is kinda confusing the hell outta me despite how simplified they've been made. I think my tiny brain's gonna stick to Anji for the foreseeable future, but the new Testament (lol) is pretty damn cool gameplay-wise.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: teddylam on March 31, 2022, 08:02:11 am
She-Testament is great... now I wait for a mode with a dude-Testament skin. :lfor:
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Umezono on March 31, 2022, 08:46:56 am
Testament isn't a she or he, or a girl or a boy, idk what's so hard to understand here.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: teddylam on April 01, 2022, 02:50:32 pm
Testament isn't a she or he, or a girl or a boy, idk what's so hard to understand here.
I don't care about what people say it is. If someone who doesn't know about Guilty Gear just look a picture of the character, In Strive Testament is a girl, the Testament before is a man with a dress. So for me not the same. I liked his look before, the girly one is good too but doesn't feel like the same character.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on April 01, 2022, 03:56:07 pm
There is a difference between misgendering someone because you didn't know their gender and misgendering someone after being explicitly informed of the correct one. First case you're just making a mistake, second you're just a jerk.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: D.R.B on April 30, 2022, 01:22:39 am
There is a difference between misgendering someone because you didn't know their gender and misgendering someone after being explicitly informed of the correct one. First case you're just making a mistake, second you're just a jerk.
relax, its just a fictional character
also here we have: NOT Bedman Trailer
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on April 30, 2022, 02:15:52 am
There is a difference between misgendering someone because you didn't know their gender and misgendering someone after being explicitly informed of the correct one. First case you're just making a mistake, second you're just a jerk.
relax, its just a fictional character
also here we have: NOT Bedman Trailer [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH_IeHg2un4&ab_channel=MagatsuVale[/youtube]
...Okay, that's hilarious to make it be the damn BED instead of Bedman since he's... dead. But instead of his sister(whose heavily implied to be free now), it's the Bed? What, Bedman infused his consciousness into it or something?
And I realized it was just a meme LMFAO. Damn, got me good there.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on April 30, 2022, 04:15:28 pm
The slippery slope doesn't even exist anymore... we have reverted right back to the "video games kill people" argument now.
Completely different situations. Your attitude shows your unwillingness to respect the very idea that someone's gender identity isn't defined by you or your "opinions", that is one thing that doesn't change from characters to people. You're bigoted.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Xhominid on April 30, 2022, 11:07:06 pm
The slippery slope doesn't even exist anymore... we have reverted right back to the "video games kill people" argument now.
Completely different situations. Your attitude shows your unwillingness to respect the very idea that someone's gender identity isn't defined by you or your "opinions", that is one thing that doesn't change from characters to people. You're bigoted.
Not even close dude, this is why people get tired of stuff like this because people like you basically get given an inch and take it halfway across the Universe. Testament is not real as is every other character in the series as is every other piece of fictional media. Authors have consistently made characters come off as Traps(Or the other way around for Females who dress like dudes to the point they come off as male) by making them as girl as possible to the point they are only not a girl due to basically saying so. So please get off that high horse of yours by trying to tell people they are bigots over a videogame character and applying that to real life.
The only bigot I'm seeing here is you, no one else. So unless you have proof that the people here that are just saying their two cents actually are bigots, how about you go put your 2 cents back in your pocket? Because it damn sure isn't warranted or needed as you are clearly just continuing to start needless conflict.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: TrinitroRoy on April 30, 2022, 11:15:57 pm
...can we instead talk about how Guilty Gear Strive has removed insta-kills for seemingly no reason?
Like, why did they remove insta-kills anyway? They are a quintessential part of Guilty Gear, you can't just remove them like that.
Honestly, Arc System Works fucked up big time there.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Darkflare on May 01, 2022, 01:50:46 am
Instant Kills were useless, only served for a flashy finish and were only viable when they could be canceled into after fulfilling the conditions to enable being canceled into in Xrd.
Nobody actually seriously used them except for a hail mary and their exclusion in Strive doesn't actually take away anything from the game
Next question.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Keku on May 01, 2022, 02:27:42 am
Nobody actually seriously used them except for a hail mary and their exclusion in Strive doesn't actually take away anything from the game
That's not true, though. IKs were just as good for the competitive scene as they were for the casual space. They saw an insane amount of use in AC and beyond due to how wildly the pace of the game changed, and one nasty setup and the inability to mash insanely hard during stun (think full Ground Viper inputs) meant you died, and that's not something that's so easy to escape in realistic situations. Most Eddie players in AC got carried by the fact that not only did he have easy stun over a sneaky ]H[ into 6P spam, he also had the fastest activation in the whole series.
Even if you didn't use them, popping IK mode by itself is a hell of a mindgame that can absolutely mess with someone's head, even top players, eg. Kusoru vs. Steve H at Final Round XV when the former allegedly mashed it and the latter essentially didn't know what to expect, only to get chipped out
In Xrd, most IKs gained insane invuln on startup, making them even scarier to run into raw. Never mind the fact they would make them comboable on final rounds as if they were BB Astrals, so even if you did anticipate a Hail Mary, nothing would prepare you for an actual kill setup.
Instant Kills are intrinsically part of Guilty Gear's personality since the very beginning and the lack of IKs was one of Strive's biggest points of contention before release next to the switch to footsies and the vastly changed air game. While their exclusion wouldn't take anything away from it gameplay-wise, it did sour the mood of most diehards, regardless of their competence in the series as a whole.
To say what you just said in good conscience with all that in mind is just plain disingenuous.
On the other hand, I don't mind their removal much anymore as you can already kill somebody in less than ten ingame seconds with a gold burst and a wallbreak so lol ggs shake my hand
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Beta158 on August 08, 2022, 07:18:49 am
Like the great General Ackbar said “It’s a trap”
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 08, 2022, 07:54:35 am
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Momotaro on August 08, 2022, 08:48:13 am
I like the idea People who don't really know GG and only followed the "Smell of the game" trends will react like :"Oh, SHE's so cute, this brand new character is my main now!" LOL
Anyway, glad to see him back, but it was definitely not what I was wainting for... the most. I'm still missing my Jam Kuradoberi... Johnny...
But I suppose In 2022 you have to make your communication with more "unusual" fighting game archetypes... (when Johnny and Jam are old gamers archetypes)
Also, Bridget was kind of fresh when he appeared in the past, but now, I have this feeling it's a male May with pallet swap and different moves. (Because of May new design) One more cute character archetype of this kind would not be a priority for me... (beside the fact he's a guy)
Anyway, I'll wait for Jam... to put my interest back to this game.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Mgbenz on August 08, 2022, 01:23:25 pm
The English localization on the website goes out of it's way to not refer to Bridget with any pronouns, which is very jarring to read, even though his bio still states that he's a boy who was raised as a girl.
Didn't stop them from referring to him with "she" in the in-game profile anyway.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 08, 2022, 03:38:50 pm
Well, you're gonna have to refer to her as she now, here is a clip from her Arcade story: https://twitter.com/faradayribcage/status/1556621874515304448?s=20&t=TrWq1ueFocwIyXQ3wxR79g
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: D.R.B on August 08, 2022, 04:02:21 pm
I like the idea People who don't really know GG and only followed the "Smell of the game" trends will react like :"Oh, SHE's so cute, this brand new character is my main now!" LOL
Also did Bridget and Testement find the fountain of youth or something? both looks younger then before
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: yaret on August 08, 2022, 04:23:24 pm
she was dreaming for almost 20 years with that logic she is perfectly fine that she looks young, bridget is also the best second DLC this game has in my opinion.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: MAO11 on August 09, 2022, 12:45:26 pm
eww western identity politics... seriously i do not care for it , it's just getting really old now and obnoxious.
they really dumb down bridget killing machine acts more like a full screen maintenance disaster. and his dp isn't aerial anymore i wish he still has his old shooting star for an aerial version. his aerial dive is ok but the delay sometimes makes it a bit predictable i wish they could've made it like a hold button thing.
he's ok , but not as good as he was before. he is still fun to play with and still my favourite best boy in the game.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 09, 2022, 01:07:22 pm
eww western identity politics... seriously i do not care for it , it's just getting really old now and obnoxious.
This has nothing to do with politics. It's literally about a boy who was raised as a girl by their socially ostracized parents who refused to kill or exile him because of some superstition. Said boy wanted to prove that stigmata of having twins of the same gender was a bunch of bullshit so he decided to become a successful bounty hunter to bring in lots of money to prove that having twins wasn't a misfortune at all while also trying to be more masculine to drive the point home that he was one of a pair of male twins.
Sometime in the future (Strive) he finally becomes a successful bounty hunter and feels content that he "broke" the curse, but now has nothing to do in life and tries desperately to find a purpose and identity, but throughout his adventures despite his initial dislike of being raised as a girl he slowly comes to terms to how he was raised and starts opening up and embracing her true self with the help of Goldlewis and Ky.
While I do feel her coming out as a trans woman is a bit abrupt and needed more build up, the only person making it political is you.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: MAO11 on August 09, 2022, 02:01:43 pm
i know his back story , what i meant is the people saying about him.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: yaret on August 09, 2022, 02:11:44 pm
is she a boy? :yuno:
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kolossoni on August 09, 2022, 04:05:12 pm
If someone wants to be regarded as a "female" when they're biologically a male, that's their wish and we should respect that. If the devs decided to make her identify herself as a "girl" now, then we should accept that too.
As long as people don't cross the line and argue against their original sex they were born in, there's nothing wrong with respecting one's request in viewing his/her gender.
While I do feel her coming out as a trans woman is a bit abrupt and needed more build up, the only person making it political is you.
Is she a trans woman though? She only identifies herself as a woman. I don't think she started transitioning yet. Sorry, I'm not too familiar with gender identities.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 09, 2022, 05:32:38 pm
Yes, she's considered a trans woman.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 09, 2022, 05:40:26 pm
i know his back story , what i meant is the people saying about him.
Misgendering a trans person is considered transphobia. I suggest you stop doing that, you're making yourself look even more unlikable, specially after that stupid statement about "political". A queer person or character's existance is not a political statement, the only problem I see is your attitude.
Is she a trans woman though? She only identifies herself as a woman. I don't think she started transitioning yet. Sorry, I'm not too familiar with gender identities.
You don't need to physically transition to be considered trans. Its all about what you identify as.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: MAO11 on August 09, 2022, 09:37:59 pm
See this is why i said i have a problem with people talking about it and being obnoxious. Im already labeled as transphobic. And no its not transphobia if you misgender someone.because there are languages like ours that has no gendered terms.
Im from a region that has the most trans woman in the world. We Already done this shit almost 20 years ago. If you're born male and identify as female you can only be recognize legally as a female post transition. That way false claims and abuse won't happen.
I think japan adopted it as well a few years back.
But were getting out of topic its better to have a separate thread for this.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 09, 2022, 11:25:19 pm
See this is why i said i have a problem with people talking about it and being obnoxious. Im already labeled as transphobic. And no its not transphobia if you misgender someone.because there are languages like ours that has no gendered terms.
Im from a region that has the most trans woman in the world. We Already done this shit almost 20 years ago. If you're born male and identify as female you can only be recognize legally as a female post transition. That way false claims and abuse won't happen.
I think japan adopted it as well a few years back.
But were getting out of topic its better to have a separate thread for this.
I called out what you did because what you did IS transphobic. There is no debate on that, YES, it is transphobic to misgender a trans person, and you can't hide behind languages because I just checked your comment history and you seemed to have no issue differentiating male and female pronouns until this specific situation, so your excuse about having no gendered terms in your language really doesn't work. Also, being recognized legally as the gender you identify as has NOTHING to do with whether or not you'll respect that person's identity, the person doesn't need to be "legally trans" to be respected. Also, you literally have no excuse to label any of this situation as political, because calling queer people "political" is the kind of thing bigoted people do.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Nate on August 10, 2022, 12:33:19 am
literally starting up drama over a characters gender. Yes how it was handled with their story could have been better I agree with that, but who fucking cares what gender they are. It's a fighting game at the end of the day. If they are a good character, and plays well, and people are happy with the character being in the damn game, than that's all that should matter. People getting so bent up over nothing
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 10, 2022, 03:20:16 am
literally starting up drama over a characters gender. Yes how it was handled with their story could have been better I agree with that, but who fucking cares what gender they are. It's a fighting game at the end of the day. If they are a good character, and plays well, and people are happy with the character being in the damn game, than that's all that should matter. People getting so bent up over nothing
You should tell that to the rest of social media and this goes beyond "just a video game character". It shows how much you are as a person if you refuse to acknowledge someone's gender identity regardless if they're fictional or not. It's called basic human decency.
Would you say the same thing if someone didn't like a video game character because of the color of their skin or belong to a certain ethnic group?
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Xhominid on August 10, 2022, 04:39:28 am
Can I point out this "Bridget chooses to be a girl" only happens if you lose at the final boss fight atleast once meanwhile nothing about it ever happens if you beat the boss without losing(Only Bridget wanting to be true to themselves which can mean anything)?
And again, people are seriously reaching for transphobia way too fast for fictional characters and wonder why they aren't getting the standing they should. I literally got labeled transphobic for not saying Testament is a they when even in character, Testament doesn't give a damn about his gender and what people call him because Testament's a Gear. And it's honestly becoming a bit ridiculous on all levels to have people show up and start throwing it around and thinking they are getting brownie points for it, especially over someone giving out the wrong context and taking it to be true. Besides, do people really want to go this route after Bridget's backstory? And how the "Non-Flawless" ending has Bridget go about it? Because that has some really bad implications if you really think that it's okay for him to even want to be a girl after basically being forced into it at birth otherwise he would be killed or exiled as a child due to superstition.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 10, 2022, 04:52:06 am
Yeah, you're transphobic as well. Like Miss Pink Maid said above you, referring even to a character by their chosen gender is basic human decency, so yes, your misgendering of both Bridget and Testament makes you transphobic, because you didn't make a mistake, you're literally choosing to ignore the characters' gender identity.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 10, 2022, 05:00:48 am
Can I point out this "Bridget chooses to be a girl" only happens if you lose at the final boss fight atleast once meanwhile nothing about it ever happens if you beat the boss without losing(Only Bridget wanting to be true to themselves which can mean anything)?
All you need to do is clear Bridget's Arcade on hard mode to get the ending where she comes out as a woman. Even if there's an implication of her only being a trans woman on hard mode while still identifying as a male in any other setting, you can't deny that her in game bio lists her with feminine pronouns.
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Because that has some really bad implications if you really think that it's okay for him to even want to be a girl after basically being forced into it at birth otherwise he would be killed or exiled as a child due to superstition.
Yeah cause it's totally not a thing for Bridget of all people to change her mind regarding how she was raised and identifies as. While you're saying it's easy to pull the trigger on people calling each other transphobes, you're essentially doing the same thing with how Bridget changes her mindset regarding her upbringing having "bad implications".
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: The Sudden Rarity on August 10, 2022, 05:35:37 am
Bridget is a trans woman. Even was confirmed by her VO on Twtr. You know, the person who not only voices the character, but also has to know the character they're voicing? Link to her tweet, in case people weren't convinced: https://twitter.com/KellyOhanianVO/status/1557079323076546560
And it's not just in the bad ending. It's in the perfect ending, and as people have put it, hard mode ending (which is often the canon ending anyway).
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: MAO11 on August 10, 2022, 07:10:33 am
See this is why i said i have a problem with people talking about it and being obnoxious. Im already labeled as transphobic. And no its not transphobia if you misgender someone.because there are languages like ours that has no gendered terms.
Im from a region that has the most trans woman in the world. We Already done this shit almost 20 years ago. If you're born male and identify as female you can only be recognize legally as a female post transition. That way false claims and abuse won't happen.
I think japan adopted it as well a few years back.
But were getting out of topic its better to have a separate thread for this.
I called out what you did because what you did IS transphobic. There is no debate on that, YES, it is transphobic to misgender a trans person, and you can't hide behind languages because I just checked your comment history and you seemed to have no issue differentiating male and female pronouns until this specific situation, so your excuse about having no gendered terms in your language really doesn't work. Also, being recognized legally as the gender you identify as has NOTHING to do with whether or not you'll respect that person's identity, the person doesn't need to be "legally trans" to be respected. Also, you literally have no excuse to label any of this situation as political, because calling queer people "political" is the kind of thing bigoted people do.
Like i said i dont care about western identity politics. You can be whatever you want to ve i wont stop you but you cant force anything on me either. Thats how it works.
bridget only identify as a woman in the bad end of the story. So its weird we are arguing about it when the creators themselves aren really telling us whats the canon route or not.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kolossoni on August 10, 2022, 07:20:55 am
Can I point out this "Bridget chooses to be a girl" only happens if you lose at the final boss fight atleast once meanwhile nothing about it ever happens if you beat the boss without losing(Only Bridget wanting to be true to themselves which can mean anything)?
It still doesn't matter. It's canon nonetheless. I don't feel like it's a retcon either, Bridget just found a new identity for herself to relate with. She was practically raised as a girl so she now identifies as a girl, it's as simple as that.
Yeah, you're transphobic as well. Like Miss Pink Maid said above you, referring even to a character by their chosen gender is basic human decency, so yes, your misgendering of both Bridget and Testament makes you transphobic, because you didn't make a mistake, you're literally choosing to ignore the characters' gender identity.
Though I agree with disagreeing with some people here, please refrain yourself from using "-phobic" to anything you disagree with. They're not *hating* on Bridget or Testament for being trans. They just don't get why they're labeled as one.
Know the difference.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: MAO11 on August 10, 2022, 07:48:50 am
Thats the problem with western politics nowadays. You cant really have a discussion both sides will call you and label you negatively. I really have no respect on western politics.
We had the same problems 20 years ago. Men wanting to identify as females and vice versa. The law requires them to under go transition first before they could claim anything. Simple as that its like their gun laws and health care they need to argue about it for decades.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kohaku~★ on August 10, 2022, 07:54:27 am
Thats the problem with western politics nowadays. You cant really have a discussion both sides will call you and label you negatively. I really have no respect on western politics.
We had the same problems 20 years ago. Men wanting to identify as females and vice versa. The law requires them to under go transition first before they could claim anything. Simple as that its like their gun laws and health care they need to argue about it for decades.
You need to stop pinning it on "westerners". This is a problem that's happening on a global scale. Countries like the US didn't suddenly start politicizing gender identity as it's been happening for a long time and it happens in other parts of the world. I'm obviously no expert as to how other countries operate, but I'm pretty confident that the West you're so eager to blame is a lot more supportive to LGBTQ+ rights than the rest of the world.
I'm not trans nor do I know what they go through on a daily basis, but at the very least I like to think I'm making their life a little bit easier by respecting their identity and choice.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 10, 2022, 07:58:03 am
Though I agree with disagreeing with some people here, please refrain yourself from using "-phobic" to anything you disagree with. They're not *hating* on Bridget or Testament for being trans. They just don't get why they're labeled as one.
Know the difference.
I know the difference. Xhominid is deliberately misgendering both characters. Transphobia isn't just hate, it's disrespect as well, and misgendering trans people is disrespectful, the hate is irrelevant, whether Xhominid gets it or not is also irrelevant. I've called them out for this before, it IS transphobia.
Thats the problem with western politics nowadays. You cant really have a discussion both sides will call you and label you negatively. I really have no respect on western politics.
We had the same problems 20 years ago. Men wanting to identify as females and vice versa. The law requires them to under go transition first before they could claim anything. Simple as that its like their gun laws and health care they need to argue about it for decades.
Queer people are not "politics", they're exercising their right to be respected as who they are, and you are going out of your way to be disrespectful. Also, spare me your blaming on the West, the East is also full of bigotry that people like you turn a blind eye to and pretend that problems that aren't yours are solved.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kolossoni on August 10, 2022, 08:56:48 am
I know the difference. Xhominid is deliberately misgendering both characters. Transphobia isn't just hate, it's disrespect as well, and misgendering trans people is disrespectful
Yes, I completely agree and am against mislabeling the trans community against their wishes, but that still doesn't classify as "transphobic".
If I, for the sake of fucking argument, identified as a 10 year old kid, do you have to comply? Are you to let me fall asleep next underage children and allow me around them? Let's say, I mean absolutely no harm. No devious goals or malicious intent. Let's just say I'm literally a little kid in a grown man's body. Will you still allow it?
You probably wouldn't and I'd be offended. I probably would said you've disrespected me, but you'll have your reasons and I'll have mine.
The point is, just because somebody feels uncomfortable about a certain topic (regardless how the other person feels) they have the right to express their opinions without being called "smth-phobic". Just like how you would think a grown man sleeping next to minors is off putting (adultphobic?), others can view the same way towards trans people being next to their biologically opposite sex. Doesn't mean they're transphobic.
Disrespectful? yes. But, definitely not transphobic.
I just want people to stop overdramatizing and finding the harshest word they could find to criticize other people. Just call them disrespectful. Transphobic is WAY worse than being disrespectful, but you seem to combine the two into one, trivializing it in a way.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on August 10, 2022, 09:06:12 am
Are you really comparing gender identity to "identifying as a minor" to sleep with minors? Because those things are really not alike in the slightest and that comparison is disgusting. What Xhominid did IS transphobia, if they're "uncomfortable with the topic" of gender identity, that's too bad, doesn't give them the right to misgender.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kolossoni on August 10, 2022, 09:12:24 am
Are you really comparing gender identity to "identifying as a minor" to sleep with minors? Because those things are really not alike in the slightest and that comparison is disgusting.
Well, here we go. Even if the person says that they are completely innocent and have NO MALICIOUS INTENT, you still call them disgusting.
What I'm trying to iterate is how you feel towards adults who think they are children applies to those who view males/females claiming they are the opposite sex. They call it disgusting too.
These people are usually very religious and/or conservative being taught to believe that only man & woman are the genders of this world. I disagree and think it's disrespectful, but jumping on to conclusions and calling them "transphobic" "homophobic" and "hateful" is wrong.
Unless they do anything majorly serious like lynching, forming hate mobs, I'd refrain myself from calling someone a "transphobe" as much as possible. Like I said before, just call them disrespectful.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Jmorphman on August 10, 2022, 09:19:23 am
If I, for the sake of fucking argument, identified as a 10 year old kid, do you have to comply? Are you to let me fall asleep next underage children and allow me around them?
Gonna stop you right here. This is a complete hypothetical with no real bearing on the real world. Like sure, someone out there in the world has probably done this, but it's not something recognized as legitimate by any society, by medical science, by any government, or anything. To fully dissect and explain the vast gulf in differences between these two situations is simply beyond the bounds of this not only topic, but this entire forum, frankly.
Suffice it to say, this hypothetical is simply not at all comparable to trans people, not even remotely. This topic is rapidly devolving into some weird areas and I don't think any of this is or will shape up to be very productive. And of course, it's all pretty much entirely off-topic. So, it's time to nip all of this in the bud:
It seems pretty clear that the developers intend Bridget to be trans. This topic shouldn't be debated any further.
Repeatedly and intentionally misgendering someone is, in fact, transphobic. You, of course, are free to do and say whatever you want in your private life, but don't be surprised if you suffer consequences for that speech. Like that speech being accurately described as transphobic. Or penalized in some way by the mod staff, if done in this forum.
Doing or saying something that is transphobic is not a stain that forever scars the soul. It is simply an accurate descriptor of certain behavior. A person that does something like that can either recognize that their behavior harmed people, and choose to avoid repeating that action—or they might choose to ignore that and carry on as they are. It is therefore not helpful to treat the accusation of transphobia as a nuclear strike that is meant to forever silence someone or ruin their reputation.
I am hopeful that no further moderator action will be necessary.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kolossoni on August 10, 2022, 09:24:54 am
That example was an extreme case to counter an (IMO) extreme claim.
As long as people can agree to disagree on topics without having to resort to name calling then I'm all good. Not everybody was raised up in the same way. Some have different opinion from others. If Bridget being a female is too much of a hard pill to swallow for some, that's on them. But I think they need to accept what the devs wanted her to become since I think it's nice to give the character some development.
Some people think it's pandering towards the PC crowd. I for one do not think so.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Keku on August 10, 2022, 09:25:12 am
Unless they do anything majorly serious like lynching, forming hate mobs, I'd refrain myself from calling someone a "transphobe" as much as possible. Like I said before, just call them disrespectful.
Imma be real, it's certainly phobic behavior to constantly misgender despite being provided with evidence to not do so, especially since this is like, what, the second time he does this? But I'd classify it as misguided rather than with ill intent until he makes it painfully obvious his mind isn't gonna change.
Gonna play the devil's advocate here and say Xhominid does have a fair point about the discourse and getting slapped with such a catch-all death sentence of a label like "transphobe" that's legit being thrown around way too often to instantly shut down any and all conversation.
On the other hand, the official glossary entry for Bridget now rocks she/her pronouns, her clothes have "growth" written on her sleeves to symbolize her adventure, and her headdress has the goddamn transgender symbol on it. Hamfisted presentation, sure, but I'm fairly sure this, the VO confirming it and the one ideal general admission arcade route having her conclude that she's a woman kinda makes it painfully obvious, and trying to challenge multiple equivalents for word of god on purpose is incredibly ignorant and, personally, absolutely not a pro gamer move lol
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: MAO11 on August 10, 2022, 09:27:31 am
Lets drop it. At this point we are just arguing to no end.
Back on topic... Ao for some reason bridgets butt attack can block sol's super.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Keku on August 10, 2022, 09:30:35 am
Well yeah, she's in the air. HMC only works on grounded and landing opponents, meanwhile her 6H has a lot of airtime and is an actual hop as opposed to in XX.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Kolossoni on August 10, 2022, 09:31:19 am
Lets drop it. At this point we are just arguing to no end.
Let's. Just hope you understand that some of us feel like the decision was well-made. I understand that you're from a different background so you may feel differently, but just know that lots of people (outside of this circle) could take offense to what you say. Just letting you know.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Useless and off-topic posts like these will he deleted. They have absolutely nothing do to with this game.
I'm sure you can find many communities where you can whine about snowflakes and other imagined enemies, but it sure ain't here.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Basara Lapis on August 10, 2022, 09:54:25 pm
I loved to see another GGXX character is back, the new design and animations are lovely, almost look like May's big sister XD and I noticed her teddy bear now appears in a motorcycle instead of a bike (https://datosjam.net.pe/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/1659966370_003.jpg) :D
Question, those ones who played Strive, it has similar gameplay than Xrd series or they changed things there?? I want the game, but still is too expensive in the PS Store to get it
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Keku on August 10, 2022, 11:24:45 pm
It is completely different. Gatlings are gone outside of universal ones, the game has a much heavier feel more grounded around dominating neutral, damage is HUGE and the juggle system they have in place feels more as if you were playing something along the lines of MK or something. Never mind the whole wallbreak system where the neutral is reset after every break and you need to gamble on whether it's worth it for the Positive Bonus or mix them a little more while you have them in the corner.
It's a big departure from what GG used to be, but in a way it's a pretty refreshing take, albeit not for everyone.
Think of it like Real Bout Guilty Gear and suddenly everything makes a lot more sense. Personally I like it a lot, despite liking #Reload/Slash and Xrd a whole lot more.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I hate Happy Chaos tho fuck him lmao
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: MightyKombat on September 14, 2022, 05:21:53 pm
https://twitter.com/HiFightTH/status/1569982954465808390?s=20&t=DOK-3q2y08tV-bZFRshxVQ So official word on the whole Bridget thing is yes, she is a "she" now, that is Ishiwatari himself saying as such, not an edit, there are no "bad endings" in arcade, only slight dialogue changes, its the same in the Japanese dialogue and speaking of which, the Japanese version of said post outright refers to Bridget with "kanojo" (meaning lit. "that girl" but basically she/her) so that's that, she's trans.
I mean not that its gonna change much here but
AND to head any chud off: https://twitter.com/XFileSam/status/1570053696335089665?s=20&t=sVUmd_qfmZ-jrZNc9oW9dw
And finally in regards to that arcade mode "bad ending"...thing: https://twitter.com/Willow9011/status/1570031689811779585?s=20&t=sVUmd_qfmZ-jrZNc9oW9dw
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 14, 2022, 07:32:15 pm
Good. Its disgusting that all this drama always happens when a character is confirmed to be queer in some way. Like, the devs try to be subtle, I mean, as subtle as a person assigned male at birth saying "I'm a girl" can be, but then the transphobes make a lot of noise claiming mistranslations, misinterpretations and fanfic-ing, so the devs have to actually come out and fucking say it to their faces that this character is a trans woman, no "ifs" or "buts", and when the devs specify it preemtively, like with Kung Jin in MKX being confirmed to be gay, even though the scene that confirmed that was subtle, they're just "looking for clout" and "shoving their sexualities down our throats" because "its not important". These people can all suck a dick. Or several.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: D.R.B on September 15, 2022, 01:55:58 am
OMG :o
are we still talking about this?? I mean last time I was here people were discussing balance issues and gameplay, now are arguing about the gender identity of one single fictional character :S
but oh well, guess this help keep this thread alive at least
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: 087-B on September 15, 2022, 06:37:32 am
are we still talking about this?? I mean last time I was here people were discussing balance issues and gameplay, now are arguing about the gender identity of one single fictional character :S
but oh well, guess this help keep this thread alive at least
Uh
Nobody's arguing about it anymore
Rather just stating "hey the devs gave an official word on the matter to help end the confusion, so if any of you are still confused, here's the say"
If anything I think that ends the whole debacle rather than prolongs it
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: ArtistofLegacy on September 21, 2022, 05:36:05 am
No one mentioned it at the time during TGS, but since they now uploaded the trailer, might as well mention it's coming to Xbox.
Also BBTAG but no one plays that game that's irrelevant to this thread.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: ComboAssassin20 on September 21, 2022, 04:43:49 pm
these games being on xbox makes no sense
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 21, 2022, 07:26:11 pm
I fail to see why.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Seadragon77 on September 21, 2022, 10:13:05 pm
His argument stems from the fact that the franchise has had only two games on an Xbox system to date - the weird as hell Guilty Gear 2: Overture, which was an Xbox 360 exclusive game at that time and Guilty Gear X2 Reload on the original Xbox. Those two games came out 15 and 18 years ago respectively.
This is a chance for Xbox players to enjoy this game and with it being on Game Pass, it means that more people will try it out.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Macaulyn97 on March 12, 2023, 05:47:09 am
New character... sorta.
And a teaser for another one.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Seadragon77 on March 12, 2023, 05:53:16 pm
I like how it's not the original person on the bed so they're like 'Bedman? Okay, sure, let's go with that'.
Oh, and Asuka being playable for the first time ever? Hmm... interesting.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: StevenB on March 13, 2023, 02:09:35 pm
I'm glad the next releases are so close together. Still kinda bummed out that Asuka took this long to be playable and overall the season pass isn't really what I wanted but it's cool to see that the franchise keeps moving their new characters forward. With Asuka, Sin and Bedwoman added I also feel like all the characters with story significance are finally in, hopefully leaving season 3 (God willing) open for more fan favourite characters that don't have anything to do with the plot.
Hoping for Slayer and ABA in particular. Having Robo-Ky back would also be fun imo.
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: Momotaro on March 13, 2023, 02:16:41 pm
I almost completely "rejected" the game like 3-4 DLC ago... But this is the old classic fighting game player expectations to have first characters like JAM, Johnny, Slayer, Dizzy... When I look at the actual roster, beside of Sol and Chipp, I don't feel so "concerned"
Hard to explain.
Sure that in 2023 you will always find an audience for a "little girl in a bed as a character."
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: D.R.B on May 18, 2023, 11:29:15 am
Asuka is here
it's a JP trailer thought
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: TotalDramaXtremist on March 22, 2024, 12:26:28 am
A.B.A is back!
Title: Re: Guilty Gear Strive: Steam/Play4/5/and Rollback-Netcode
Post by: GTOAkira on March 22, 2024, 04:43:29 am