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Mr. Sinister edit for Mugen 1.0 (Read 1810 times)

Started by Swanky, September 28, 2021, 12:49:26 PM
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Mr. Sinister edit for Mugen 1.0
#1  September 28, 2021, 12:49:26 PM
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Mr. Sinister
by BigPimp, Dev
updated by thatguy

additional sprites by Winane
edits by Swanky

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Mr. Sinister by BigPimp & Dev is a great looking character. Thankfully, they're also very relaxed when it comes to handling
their character assets which allowed me to do this edit to fix some problems with their initial beta release, as well as
enhance some of the character's moveset. It may very well be my biggest project to date.

Nathaniel Essex is an immortal being, the term "mad scientist" fits pretty well. Add to that a couple of extraordinary powers
like telekinesis, energy projection and a healing factor and you have a pretty dangerous villain.
However, Mr. Sinister is not known for being the best close combat fighter, and is reliant on overly complicated plans to a fault.

In Mugen, he is a tall character with long reach, but this comes at the cost of being rather slow in his physical attacks.
However, he makes up for it with powerful telekinesis and energy attacks, allowing the juggling of opponents to extend combos.
Mr. Sinister can chain punches or kicks, but cannot alternate between them in a combo chain (except for aerial normals).
He can cancel any normal into any special or hyper, but cannot cancel a special into a hyper.

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List of changes from official Beta - Initial release
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- completely rebalanced damage
- reworked his telekinetic QCB P/K grabs
   - they now toss the opponent around and BOUNCE them (AvX bounce states were already present in the code)
   - QCB P now won't turn if opponent gets thrown close to the wall
   - this makes for some very interesting combos
   - each grab can be used ONCE per combo
- his normals were rebalanced and fixed
   - can combo punches or kicks, but not zigzag. Can link standing / crouching punches, standing / crouching kicks
   - sHP and sHK are now overheads, sHK hits twice if close enough
   - reanimated cHP, should be smoother now and a little faster
- rebalanced a lot of frame data
- specials and hypers should now correctly do block damage and have rebalanced damage values (QCF KK shouldn't do 400dmg up close anymore)
- energy-based hypers & specials can destroy projectiles
- area concussive blast hitboxes have been slightly adjusted
- (area) concussive blasts and hyper (area) concussive blasts have longer reset animations before returning ctrl
- energy-based hypers now grant 15 iframes on startup
- regeneration hyper now has a hitbox - it's a powerful ability that should have a risk when using it - also no iframes on startup
- he can now cancel into specials and hypers from normals (specials into hypers, not so much but not needed)
- learned to PushBlock in all block states (ASC)
- learned to counter (edited statedef 220 variant)
- learned to throw (forward / backwards)
- added Hyper Combo screens, sprites by Winane
- 9000,1 portrait shortened to 140*120
- added effects for enemy being successfully grabbed by throw, backthrow or either telekinetic grab (flashes purple)
- repositioned many sparks
- Winquotes
- cleared out a lot of unused bg leftover sprites from AvX

To Do
- still need to find an idea to have him have another combo opener (not sure if needed, jMK is decent)
- create an optional portrait to fit the other stuff that I did

Ideas
- a decent power infused heavy punches special (D, DF, F, P - but where to go with his beam special? - repeat input for second slash that knocks away)
- taunt - morph into different characters?
- Statedef 3100 - QCF KK - have him float a little above ground when doing the super?

Known Issues
- Bounce mechanics go haywire in Team matches (unless turns mode is being used)
- Floor bounce on QCP K has to be set rather high so opponents don't get accidentally put into state 0 when they "hit" the floor
- combos are dependant on enemy size & recovery, comboing is more inconsistent with smaller opponents and those that recover quickly.


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I will be keeping him separate from the main download for the time being; once I am sure there will be no more updates I'll be shifting him over into the main download.


MOAR SCREENSHOTS








Last Edit: September 28, 2021, 12:53:06 PM by Swanky
Re: Mr. Sinister edit for Mugen 1.0
#2  September 29, 2021, 12:42:25 AM
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This looks good! The updates fit Sinister well. Can’t lie, this update makes me wonder what Martian Manhunter by efrencortes would look like with your touch
Re: Mr. Sinister edit for Mugen 1.0
#3  September 29, 2021, 01:28:42 PM
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This looks good! The updates fit Sinister well. Can’t lie, this update makes me wonder what Martian Manhunter by efrencortes would look like with your touch

Thank you!
Haven't really taken a look at Martian Manhunter yet, like ever. If I'm doing another project, next up the list of interesting choices is either Canary or Flash (the new52 version). The former being pretty complete and I'd probably just change small things, like an actual dash and a combo reset for one of her supers. The latter would have to be much more involved. The sprites are good, but boy the gameplay feels rough and unbalanced. Can't say when - and if - I do another though.
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#4  September 29, 2021, 03:34:53 PM
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Re: Mr. Sinister edit for Mugen 1.0
#5  September 29, 2021, 04:22:38 PM
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Giang has some great updates. Not of fan of his characters’ controls but can’t deny the updates. Flash is a great character for some nice level 3 hypers.

I don’t know of a decent Black Canary so that’d be cool. We have decent Batman’s, Robins, Superman’s, etc. I’m all for the Canaries, Martian Manhunters, Superboys, Metallos, Parasites, etc getting love
Re: Mr. Sinister edit for Mugen 1.0
#6  September 29, 2021, 04:32:15 PM
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Looks like a pretty good edit. Will have to check how much he's changed the systems to see which are easier / better to edit for an MVC-ish style. Control system seems to be a major difference, too.

Canary is pretty complete if a bit generic.

In the meantime, let me know how you feel about Mr. Sinister's Combo system and if I made any glaring coding no-gos.
Also, while I think I have found some interesting combos, let me know your favourite combo strings with him.
Last Edit: September 29, 2021, 06:09:21 PM by Swanky
Re: Mr. Sinister edit for Mugen 1.0
#7  September 29, 2021, 07:47:52 PM
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It isn't the only decent Black Canary for Mugen just an edit of Captain Marvel/Carol Danvers? Oh well, I guess worse is nothing, good luck with both Canary and Flash if you decide to edit them.

Mr. Giang based his DC characters in how they play in Injustice 2, so that's why their controls are really different from the standard six buttons characters. They still have MvC stuff like launchers and pushblock but that's practically it.
Re: Mr. Sinister edit for Mugen 1.0
#8  September 29, 2021, 07:56:07 PM
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It isn't the only decent Black Canary for Mugen just an edit of Captain Marvel/Carol Danvers? Oh well, I guess worse is nothing, good luck with both Canary and Flash if you decide to edit them.

Mr. Giang based his DC characters in how they play in Injustice 2, so that's why their controls are really different from the standard six buttons characters. They still have MvC stuff like launchers and pushblock but that's practically it.

That's right, she is an edit of that character; slightly separated palettes I think but that's about it. To be fair, it's about as close as you can get with skintight bodysuits and fishnets. Guess you could've edited the pose but even this one *kinda* fits.

Good to know the Giang edits have some MvC stuff still present.
Re: Mr. Sinister edit for Mugen 1.0
#9  September 29, 2021, 08:10:51 PM
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Really nice edit, thanks for the share. Looking forward to Canary and/or Flash.
Re: Mr. Sinister edit for Mugen 1.0
#10  September 30, 2021, 02:27:49 PM
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Glad you like it.

...just to make sure. Don't expect them to come, at least not in the near future. Keep an eye out in my general releases topic or in a new topic if that character will be released as a complete package, not just a patch.