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CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
New #1  February 08, 2013, 04:30:13 am
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finally, time is up and here is the italian gigolo son of Steven Seagal:





MOVELIST

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haoh shokou ken
F B DB D DF F + punch

ryuko ranbou
D DF F DF D DB B + punch

kazuryu sen
D DF F D DF F + kick

muei shippu juudankyaku (NEW)
D DB B D DB B + kick (MAX / LV3)


---SPECIAL-------------------

ryu geki ken
D DF F + punch

ryu zanchou
F D DF + kick

hien shippu kyaku
F DF D DB B + kick

hien ryuujin kyaku
(air) D DB B + kick

geneikyaku
F B F + kick

Kyokugen ryu Renbu Kyaku
B DB D DF F + kick

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Special Thanks to:

-ELECYTE for this wonderful engine
-CAPCOM & SNK for bring us all those games that we love and inspire us. 
-WARUSAKI3 for all his cvs2 chars.  Don't be mad about me editing Ryo,  i miss your work and i try to follow you. Your name keeps as creator in .def file.
-MUGEN GUILD users for the support, comments and sugerences.

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UPDATE 1 (02 19 2013):

-fixed cheap k.o. bug
-added Kyokugen ryu Renbu Kyaku
-deleted old Ryo's AI
-changed K.O. sound
-fixed missing sprite in taunt animation
-fixed F+MK problem
-fixed lifebar portrait without transparence
-fixed geneikyaku small hitbox
-fixed misaligned hit sparks
-fixed misaligned counter hit sparks
-fixed P throw, p2 reaction
-fixed damage in P and K throw
-fixed damage in crouching HP

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UPDATE 2 (02 08 2014):

-change from original NGBC sprites to KOF99-2k2 edited by me
-cnls adaptation to the new sprites
-new moves added:
   F + high kick
   DF + medium kick
   jumping D + high kick
   muei shippu juudankyaku
-moves changed:
   D + medium punch: inspired on AOF3's D+punch
   jumping high kick      
   ryu geki ken: classical look (AOF/KOF 94-95), kick variation has gone.
   ryu zanchou: a little bit more "Ryuuga"
   hien shippu kyaku: KOF 96-2k2 version.
   Kyokugen ryu Renbu Kyaku: KOF 96-98 version, combo enabled at the enf after a high jump
   ryuko ranbou: changed finisher hits
-damage adjust on haoh shokou ken, ryuko ranbou & kazuryu sen
-added cns & air patches for special intros for warusaki3's Ryo, Yuri, Ken & Dan
-other minor fixes


DOWNLOAD============> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FDPvg6tW-AQKCgcvYbdYGHO0HCgysyDK
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Re: CVS2 Robert
#2  February 08, 2013, 04:41:38 am
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going by the video , He looks great, like he really was in CVS series , Dling now to give him a run , thanks for the release
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#4  February 08, 2013, 04:50:12 am
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Yay! Another CVS Kof char =D
Downloading...
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tried this character but i have a couple of problems with this:

1. after his taunt, there's a sprite missing
2. the battle cry is wrong who's this, raiden's battle cry or someone else's battle cry?

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tried this character but i have a couple of problems with this:

1. after his taunt, there's a sprite missing
2. the battle cry is wrong who's this, raiden's battle cry or someone else's battle cry?

my gosh!  i totaly forgot about k.o. sound... it is from ryo... and the sprite missing, in air file in animation 195, the correct last line must be : 180,5, 0,0, 5
i apologize about it, i'll add this problems to "to do" list.
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#8  February 08, 2013, 08:24:10 am
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Only one word: FINALLY!
Downloading it now, especially because he's Warusaki-styled.
EDIT: Tested. Your char is good, but there are two glitches that I have noticed:
-The Lifebar Portrait has got a pink background
-When Robert gets cheap KO'ed by himself, the round doesn't end.
I actually would have prefered, if his default pal would be based on his AoF attire, since that is more recognizeable, but that's just preferences.
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-F.HP throw looks weird. P2 bounces up and then just appears on the ground lying down.
-F.HK throw hitspark looks misaligned imo.
-I thought this incarnation of Robert was a charge type(i.e. hold B -> F any punch for his fireball,etc.). Why change it?
-Clsns need optimization and you should make more use of clsn constant. Especially with basic actions and gethit anims.
-Most of Robert's normal attacks leave him at negative frames. Some worst than others, like his standing far HP leaves him at - 6...

This means more times than not, Robert will get punished on hit with the majority of his normals. Basically, all of them with -3 and higher, he gets owned.

-Ryu Zanchou misses thinner hitbox chars up close...


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Your name keeps as creator in .def file.
^Why? When he didn't create him? I understand the whole homage thing and what not, but even if you did use his char as a base, you did do the work overall. But, if you want to keep it that way, that's cool.

Honestly, I'd suggest using JZ's chars as reference, since they're far more up to date. Waru's chars are very outdated, with various bugs here and there. Nothing too heavy, but still, it'd be nice to avoid them if you could. Which you can. Overall though, I like the feel to him and all. Did you edit his sprites? They look ok I guess, but not very CvS honestly imo. IDK, maybe it's just me... Look forward to updates on him, nice job.
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#10  February 08, 2013, 04:33:10 pm
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Yeah, but Warusaki's chars have the better EX-Groove, in my opinion.
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Yeah, but Warusaki's chars have the better EX-Groove, in my opinion.

No, not really. JZ's EX Groove can be customized. Therefore imho, making it better than Waru's. Because you can suit it to your tastes. You can even get the same result as Waru's EX Groove, so yeah.... Also, outside of a full game, all the message pop ups, annoying announcer's voice, and Groove bars is really...well annoying and clashes with basically all SPs. JZ gives the option of removing all of that, which is awesome. I know how to remove it myself from Waru's/H's chars, but not everyone does. Overall, it'd be a much better choice to follow JZ's example with CvS2 accurate-attempt chars.
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Will the special intros work on Pots Dan and Jmp's Ken?

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Re: CVS2 Robert
#13  February 08, 2013, 05:21:35 pm
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-F.HP throw looks weird. P2 bounces up and then just appears on the ground lying down.

i copied from waru's geese, exactly...  note that

-F.HK throw hitspark looks misaligned imo 
note that

-I thought this incarnation of Robert was a charge type(i.e. hold B -> F any punch for his fireball,etc.). Why change it?
i don't know!!! i get used to it and then never change it.  note that

Clsns need optimization and you should make more use of clsn constant. Especially with basic actions and gethit anims.
-Most of Robert's normal attacks leave him at negative frames. Some worst than others, like his standing far HP leaves him at - 6... 
This means more times than not, Robert will get punished on hit with the majority of his normals. Basically, all of them with -3 and higher, he gets owned.
that's originaly from Ryo, i didn't change those parameters to keep as close as i can from warus chars.

-Ryu Zanchou misses thinner hitbox chars up close... 
note that

Honestly, I'd suggest using JZ's chars as reference, since they're far more up to date. Waru's chars are very outdated, with various bugs here and there. Nothing too heavy, but still, it'd be nice to avoid them if you could. Which you can. Overall though, I like the feel to him and all. Did you edit his sprites? They look ok I guess, but not very CvS honestly imo. IDK, maybe it's just me... Look forward to updates on him, nice job. 

i know, JZ's chars are very studied and more accurate to the real cvs2 style, but he doesn't have much chars to study certain moves,  i didnt edit the sprites (except anims 440, 1200 and 850), it just a pelette swap and a color separation on hair and chest. 

thanks for taking the time to review the char and adviseme about it problems.   it'll be fixed on a future update.






     Posted: February 08, 2013, 05:24:24 pm
Will the special intros work on Pots Dan and Jmp's Ken?
originaly not, but if air and cns coincides it'spossible

     Posted: February 08, 2013, 05:27:12 pm
Only one word: FINALLY!
Downloading it now, especially because he's Warusaki-styled.
EDIT: Tested. Your char is good, but there are two glitches that I have noticed:
-The Lifebar Portrait has got a pink background
-When Robert gets cheap KO'ed by himself, the round doesn't end.
I actually would have prefered, if his default pal would be based on his AoF attire, since that is more recognizeable, but that's just preferences.

lifebar bug, note that
cheap k.o. is already in "to do" list,
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i don't know!!! i get used to it and then never change it.  note that

I just ask, because I'm used to this incarnation of Robert being a charge type. Maybe you could just make a separate cmd to keep this control scheme of him, along with giving him his default scheme. There's nothing wrong with the way you have it now, because it still holds true to him. But, I'm sure most people who know about this Robert, will expect him to have a charge type command scheme.

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that's originaly from Ryo, i didn't change those parameters to keep as close as i can from warus chars.

What parameters? You mean the clsns? Attack times? Or both? Either way, you can't really take parameters from another char and copy/paste them into another... :-\ Even if they're the same char, which they're not. They may have moves and all that are similar and it's good for a base reference, but you still have to change things accordingly. Like I said, Waru's char's are outdated and are in need of updates themselves. You can't really take them at face value.

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i know, JZ's chars are very studied and more accurate to the real cvs2 style, but he doesn't have much chars to study certain moves,  i didnt edit the sprites (except anims 440, 1200 and 850), it just a pelette swap and a color separation on hair and chest.

Well, if accuracy is your aim, it'd be much wiser to reference a coder's chars that are more along those lines. For certain moves, it'd be alright to reference Waru's chars, but the overall basis/system of the chars should derive from JZ's chars. So, I guess it'll be a good idea to cross between the two when needed.

As for the sprites... Ah, ok. Looks alright. You're a spriter though, right? That may be something you may consider, touching up the sprites to give them a more CvS feel. 

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thanks for taking the time to review the char and adviseme about it problems.   it'll be fixed on a future update.

No problem. You did a good job on him overall.
Re: CVS2 Robert
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Yeah, but Warusaki's chars have the better EX-Groove, in my opinion.

No, not really. JZ's EX Groove can be customized. Therefore imho, making it better than Waru's. Because you can suit it to your tastes. You can even get the same result as Waru's EX Groove, so yeah.... Also, outside of a full game, all the message pop ups, annoying announcer's voice, and Groove bars is really...well annoying and clashes with basically all SPs. JZ gives the option of removing all of that, which is awesome. I know how to remove it myself from Waru's/H's chars, but not everyone does. Overall, it'd be a much better choice to follow JZ's example with CvS2 accurate-attempt chars.
Okay, the option of disabling groove bars, menu pop-ups and such is neat, but I always got used to Waru's EX-Groove.
But again, preferences.
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Re: CVS2 Robert
#16  February 08, 2013, 10:56:37 pm
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Just a little help. I added the intro vs. Ken and when I start the match ken does the intro against Robert but Robert does his normal intro. Is it anything i need to add to Robert?

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Just a little help. I added the intro vs. Ken and when I start the match ken does the intro against Robert but Robert does his normal intro. Is it anything i need to add to Robert?

warusaki3 ken?
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#18  February 09, 2013, 06:07:33 am
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Yes! I'm using warusaki's ken.
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#19  February 09, 2013, 07:16:23 am
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Nice job!! But is there any way to get rid of those power bars and that announcer? I'd rather have him in permanent EX mode. And the announcer is just annoying to say the least... Nice work tho! This was greatly needed!  :afro:
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Nice job!! But is there any way to get rid of those power bars and that announcer? I'd rather have him in permanent EX mode. And the announcer is just annoying to say the least... Nice work tho! This was greatly needed!  :afro:

I think there's a patch by KojiroBadness that lets you lock the character in certain modes.  For the announcer the easiest way is to just delete every sound clip from his SND but that may cause weird stuff to happen possibly.  Also don't forget that if he has a config file you can make your own EX groove (like Warusaki's characters).
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#21  February 09, 2013, 07:52:52 am
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the Groove Removal patch for Warusaki´s chars should work on this one too no? =/
Re: CVS2 Robert
#22  February 09, 2013, 08:05:29 am
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Great Character!!Good job!! :yippi:

Feedback
・config.txt,why groovepoint off & groovegauge doubleles=0?
・run sound noisy,and nearly stand strong punch&crouching strong punch not cancelable.
・When forward middle kick,opponent attack hit,robert flying.
Last Edit: February 09, 2013, 10:32:34 am by mpower
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#24  February 11, 2013, 02:43:31 am
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Oh happy day.. Which is fucked cuz I wasn't informed of his release till now. DL Now.....Any bugs, Ill let you know....And Ill Enjoy..
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#25  February 11, 2013, 06:06:40 am
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DAMN!
This is by far a damn good CVS based character!
I hope to see more in the future!
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#26  February 11, 2013, 02:59:29 pm
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Did you edit his sprites? They look ok I guess, but not very CvS honestly imo.
Those are Robert sprites from Neo Geo Battle Coliseum, he made something like JZ's CVS Andy where he used KOF-like sprites to make a CVS char. I found it very original and a good use for those NGBC sprites (also, Dampir was excited with this project so he probably convert these sprites in his CVS style soon). Downloading and testing him as soon as I can, good job ;)

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Re: CVS2 Robert
#27  February 13, 2013, 03:12:49 am
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Yes! I'm using warusaki's ken.

check out if in your ken's def file the name of the char is"cvsken", a variation on the name could be the problem

      Posted: February 13, 2013, 03:14:48 am
(also, Dampir was excited with this project so he probably convert these sprites in his CVS style soon). Downloading and testing him as soon as I can, good job ;)

oh dampir pls... it could be great!!!

     Posted: February 13, 2013, 03:16:58 am
Great Character!!Good job!! :yippi:

Feedback
・config.txt,why groovepoint off & groovegauge doubleles=0?
・run sound noisy,and nearly stand strong punch&crouching strong punch not cancelable.
・When forward middle kick,opponent attack hit,robert flying.

thanx!  i'm fixing those problems
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Wow! Robert Garcia in CvS2 style? This adaptation is pretty good so far.
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#29  February 18, 2013, 04:31:31 pm
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Awesome job.  Just a few things are a bit off, though:

 - HP grab does more damage than HK grab, despite the start-up times being accurate to CvS2 (3-frame for HP, 5-frame for HK), which means the HP is faster and does more damage (and on top of that, you get way better oki), while the HK grab is slower and weaker

 - close HP is not cancelable, despite using the animation of a move that is cancelable in source

 - ditto for standing HK and crouching HP

 - crouching HP does less damage than a medium attack; should do heavy damage, at least on the first set of active frames (49 is acceptable for when he fully extends his arm)

 - crouching LK should be repeatable, not close LK (seems as though the character follows CvS2 Ryo's canceling rules, except for crouching HP which is not cancelable while Ryo's was)

 - fwd+MK is supposed to be an overhead and +1 frame on hit, so you might have to adjust the trajectory and/or animation timing

Other than that, really nice job. I like the normal attack layout; makes good sense. I do wish there was an edit of Rob's 2002 jump CD animation to have his NGBC outfit, though, because it would make a nice vertical jumping HK animation. If there is, I heartily recommend implementing this idea.

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#30  February 18, 2013, 06:24:19 pm
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The char look pretty cool now he need a cvs sprites conversion
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-He flickers during his taunt.
-Geneikyaku misses at point blank.
-I think that Ryuko ranbou should do less damage than kazuryu sen since it's already guaranteed in juggles.
-Why can't hien shippu kyaku cancel into hien ryuujin kyaku in Custom Combo?
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Last Edit: February 18, 2013, 07:02:34 pm by C.A.N

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#32  February 18, 2013, 07:44:13 pm
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Awesome job.  Just a few things are a bit off, though:

 - HP grab does more damage than HK grab, despite the start-up times being accurate to CvS2 (3-frame for HP, 5-frame for HK), which means the HP is faster and does more damage (and on top of that, you get way better oki), while the HK grab is slower and weaker

 - close HP is not cancelable, despite using the animation of a move that is cancelable in source

 - ditto for standing HK and crouching HP

 - crouching HP does less damage than a medium attack; should do heavy damage, at least on the first set of active frames (49 is acceptable for when he fully extends his arm)

 - crouching LK should be repeatable, not close LK (seems as though the character follows CvS2 Ryo's canceling rules, except for crouching HP which is not cancelable while Ryo's was)

 - fwd+MK is supposed to be an overhead and +1 frame on hit, so you might have to adjust the trajectory and/or animation timing

Other than that, really nice job. I like the normal attack layout; makes good sense. I do wish there was an edit of Rob's 2002 jump CD animation to have his NGBC outfit, though, because it would make a nice vertical jumping HK animation. If there is, I heartily recommend implementing this idea.

Keep up the good work!

thanks for those tips, i didn't see those bugs... i'll fix it
fwd + MK  can be cancelled with "hien ryuujin kyaku" in the next update
i've been already thinking about to include bobert's 2002 jump CD, but in another update.

thanks a lot buddy.



      Posted: February 18, 2013, 07:44:43 pm
The char look pretty cool now he need a cvs sprites conversion

amen to that!

      Posted: February 18, 2013, 07:48:12 pm
-He flickers during his taunt.
-Geneikyaku misses at point blank.
-I think that Ryuko ranbou should do less damage than kazuryu sen since it's already guaranteed in juggles.
-Why can't hien shippu kyaku cancel into hien ryuujin kyaku in Custom Combo?

all those bugs are already fixed for the next update.
thanks!
Last Edit: February 18, 2013, 07:55:09 pm by DGO
Re: CVS2 Robert
#33  February 19, 2013, 11:02:53 am
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He never said he reuploaded Robert with updates... :-\ He's taken all the feedback under consideration, for when he does reupload him.

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#37  February 19, 2013, 10:54:00 pm
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UPDATED!!!

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-The B and C versions of kyokugen ryu renbu Kyaku don't combo properly.
-Close Z can't cancel at all.
-Kyokugen ryu Renbu Kyaku seems useless as is, shouldn't it allow juggles after or something?
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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-19-2013
#39  February 20, 2013, 09:50:31 am
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Great update! :yippi:

Feedback
・N&EX Groove's max mode activate voice "Kocchiya"& Hien shippukyaku's voice"Hien senpukyaku"、wrong Japanese
・Do you plan another A.I. mounting?
Last Edit: February 20, 2013, 11:01:50 am by mpower
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DGO, you might wanna consider changing your Signature, it's a tad NSFW.
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Uhm...how do you consider a silhouette of Kaede as NSFW?
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He changed it (probably). I wouldn't have considered his old sig NSFW anyway. Other members have underboob anime avatars or booties, and it's always been more or less fine.
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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-19-2013
#44  February 20, 2013, 08:54:12 pm
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-You're missing the second step sound in his run
-I can super cancel from his projectiles(especially the low/kick variant) before he even fires it out
-Let me bring this up about the throws... Mainly the beginning of it. This is something I can't STAND with any of Waru's chars. First, the hitbox is ridiculously cheap and there's also no AttackDist scrtl. This means I can grab p2 with a unfair amount of space between us. I can even grab p2 if they get behind me, with proper timing, because of the hitbox for it. Along with the no AttackDist scrtl added to stop you from being able to grab p2 from too far away. You really should change that, and not follow that example.
-Clsns are basically untouched from your initial release. Even though Robert does his little jig for his stance, I still think clsn constant can be used for it imo. Get hit anims should have clsn constant all the way through, because combos can sometimes whiff on Robert due to his changing clsns between his hit frames. It's unfair.
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-19-2013
#45  February 20, 2013, 09:36:11 pm
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Sweet update. This one rocks.
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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-19-2013
#46  February 26, 2013, 11:51:45 am
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Another waru's based cvs char!!!

Of course I will try it. Thank you so much.  :)

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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-19-2013
#47  March 02, 2013, 01:47:05 am
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thanks C-VirusWolf, i'll take in consideration study jesuszilla's chars to improve robert, also... i'll ask for dampir's permission to re-edit his sprites.

kyokugen ryu renbu Kyaku was edited from ryo's "Kyokugen-ryuu Ren Bu Ken" in any point it can juggle but i can't see where is the problem. if someone could help me on this, it'll be great.
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#48  March 02, 2013, 02:22:10 am
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No problem. IDK much about Waru's juggling system... :-\ Though, perhaps I can look it over later. Or better yet, take this question to the Help section. Where someone like 2OS and/or Cyanide can have a look at it. I honestly believe that those two know more about code than the entire community combined. :P

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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#49  February 08, 2014, 04:33:54 pm
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UPDATED 02-08-2014

-change from original NGBC sprites to KOF99-2k2 edited by me
-cnls adaptation to the new sprites
-new moves added:

   F + high kick
   DF + medium kick
   jumping D + high kick
   muei shippu juudankyaku
-moves changed:
   D + medium punch: inspired on AOF3's D+punch
   jumping high kick      
   ryu geki ken: classical look (AOF/KOF 94-95), kick variation has gone.
   ryu zanchou: a little bit more "Ryuuga"
   hien shippu kyaku: KOF 96-2k2 version.
   Kyokugen ryu Renbu Kyaku   : KOF 97-98 version, combo enabled at the end after a high jump
   ryuko ranbou: changed finisher hits
-damage adjust on haoh shokou ken, ryuko ranbou & kazuryu sen
-added cns & air patches for special intros for warusaki3's Ryo, Yuri, Ken & Dan
-other minor fixes


download link in the first post.
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#50  February 08, 2014, 04:38:17 pm
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nice will test it now finally the art of fighting tean is complete
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Last Edit: February 08, 2014, 04:41:22 pm by City_Hunter
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
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Awesome! Time to give punk ass Dan the biss. Thnx & I will Enjoy. Any Bugs, Ill let you Know....
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#52  February 08, 2014, 05:01:45 pm
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I'm feeling really dumb but what are the values in the config.txt to toggle the grooves? 2**0 =1, but thats not it, and neither is 2000, 2**0, or 20, or 2... A little help?
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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#54  February 09, 2014, 03:32:28 am
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Really nice sprites and update.
Congrats. :)
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
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  • There is no range variation in his punches. They all more or less reach the same distance.
  • Why are muscles showing in his shirt? Dress shirts do not work that way.
  • I can infinitely juggle with basics.
  • c.MP just looks bad in motion.
  • He has no links, which are a HUGE part of the CvS2 game design. Almost every SNK character gained links when they were put in CvS, even Raiden.
  • CLSNs need a ton of work. They are way too detailed and, quite frankly, most of them look like crap.
  • I'm pretty sure HCF+K has never worked or looked like that in any KoF.
  • Capcom damages are in multiples of 7, not 10. Your supers violate this rule, so I wouldn't be surprised if other things did, too, so double check everything.

This isn't the worst thing I've used. In fact, it's alright. It's certainly more of an effort than 2 or Bajanflash would have put into it. I just wish people would stop using Warusaki3's stuff as a base when it has so many problems. It's a good base, but tons of things need to be fixed and improved.

Long as you fix most of these issues, it should be a lot better, but redoing all the CLSNs is going to take some time. It will be worth it, though.
Last Edit: February 09, 2014, 04:32:08 am by Jesuszilla
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#56  February 09, 2014, 04:04:14 am
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I love these SNK guy's converted into CAPCOM style and I have to say you did a great job on these sprites.

Bravo
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#57  February 09, 2014, 04:35:10 am
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I'm pretty sure HCF+K has never worked or looked like that in any KoF.
I believe it's patterned after the changes made to Ryo's HCB+P for CvS (going from proximity unblockable to single strike that does the rest of the move if connected and so on). It does look a bit odd though, the gaps between the hits just feels to long, and the advancing nature of the kicks looks a bit weird as well.

Also, the Geneikyaku success animations are wrong, it's the same problem Waru had with Ryo's Zanretsuken: basically all the kicks of the same level should be played one after the other (so all the low kicks play, then the middle ones, then the highs)

I'm doing a crappy job explaining so here are some gifs

Left is how it is, right is how it should be.
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#58  February 09, 2014, 02:16:03 pm
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the sprites looks a bit weird for me: first of all the muscles on his arms are wrong on his shirt, the face look still in kof style, the shades contrast on his pants need to be improved, the feet are totally wrong, his gameplay look pretty crappy and he lacks of a decent AI, the combo in the groove doesn't work...
Last Edit: February 11, 2014, 11:58:19 am by demongorne
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#59  February 09, 2014, 02:35:34 pm
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His arms have muscles because he plans to separate them, so he can give him an outfit close to XIII/AOF/'94-95 (I guess). The problem is that, having no clothes, Robert arms looks a bit weird talking about proportions.



I think that the outfit would work better if you use the XIII sprites as basis. In these sprites would have been better to keep the clothes in the arms instead of draw the muscles. It's just my opinion, of anyways.

Thanks for the hard work :)
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#60  February 09, 2014, 03:44:49 pm
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Wow, keep up the hard work but, consider what is understandable in criticizing and don't fill in on the unhealthy stuff. People these day's, you can't please them bad or good. Keep doing your thing man.
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
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Can you provide an alternate link for DLing please? Like MediaFire, Sendspace, even 4Shared if need be. No matter what browser I use, or how much I've tried to change the setting on those browsers, Skydrive will not allow me to DL anything from it. Most times it just looks broken to my browsers anyway.
Last Edit: February 09, 2014, 05:38:07 pm by DivineWolf
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#62  February 09, 2014, 04:04:48 pm
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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#63  February 09, 2014, 05:37:36 pm
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Thank you.

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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#64  February 09, 2014, 06:32:37 pm
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thanks to all (except for who has a 4 buttons, shitty sprites and worst animated cvs takuma) for your positive criticism, I'm no longer on vacation and it take a while  fix this, but i'll try to make something about , @Jesuszilla: ... if you wanna make me the honor of fix that, i'll be happy. @Super Saiyan Sanji; yes, I had planned separate it, but the end of my vacation was getting closer and i'tll be a ton of work and time rework the arms. the same for what @Jmorphman pointed, jacket and pony tail rework.

@BIG BOSS i know... PMS

Last Edit: February 09, 2014, 07:07:34 pm by Iced
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#65  February 09, 2014, 06:47:46 pm
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If you are talking about of my old version (groove bar mr.karate) he was just a prototype and not full cvs conersion   but for sure he's much better of your crappy  and dumb char with his shitty gameplay and fake sprites...
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#66  February 09, 2014, 06:52:42 pm
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#67  February 09, 2014, 06:53:00 pm
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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
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How about both of you cut that shit out?
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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
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-His lv3(QCBx2+Kick) can be guarded even on hit. It's like the 3rd or 4th hit doesn't give enough hitstun, allowing p2 to block the remaining hits.

-What's up with the power charge anim? It looks strange/stiff compared to this...


^Why change it from this?

-I think you could have made use of his KoF blowback kick. Using it for like, close s.HK or just normal s.HK, while keeping his current s.HK as a command normal as it is originally.

-His negative frames from most normals, combined with his sluggish projectile startup, makes it kinda hard to do basic 2 hit cancels. For instance, something like c.MK -> Fireball, doesn't flow as smooth as other chars. Even Ryo himself can do this with no difficulty. This also makes jump ins hard to catch as well.

-Isn't the light version of his air dive kick special supposed to come down at a sharper angle? Also having a different anim to accompany this?

That's about all I have, as anything else was covered by JZ. You have all the same problems that Waru's chars have, because as been said many of times, you're using an outdated template. For the most part though, he feels pretty good. I applaud you hard work with spriting and coding him. Sprites have turned out very nice, gameplay is OK. Good work and thanks for the share.
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
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That animation would look weird in CvS unless he added more frames to make the hair flow a lot better.


If you are talking about of my old version (groove bar mr.karate) he was just a prototype and not full cvs conersion   but for sure he's much better of your crappy  and dumb char with his shitty gameplay and fake sprites...
If I remember correctly, what you put out there was one of the worst things I have ever had the displeasure of using, and that's saying a lot since I've tried out Misao's "VSav" stuff.
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
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Guys, I said knock it off, and it applies to everyone. It's over and dropped. I'm gonna have to start deleting replies next. Let's only talk about the character, and not unrelated characters, OK folks?

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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#73  February 10, 2014, 05:22:07 am
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-His lv3(QCBx2+Kick) can be guarded even on hit. It's like the 3rd or 4th hit doesn't give enough hitstun, allowing p2 to block the remaining hits.

-What's up with the power charge anim? It looks strange/stiff compared to this...


^Why change it from this?

-I think you could have made use of his KoF blowback kick. Using it for like, close s.HK or just normal s.HK, while keeping his current s.HK as a command normal as it is originally.

-His negative frames from most normals, combined with his sluggish projectile startup, makes it kinda hard to do basic 2 hit cancels. For instance, something like c.MK -> Fireball, doesn't flow as smooth as other chars. Even Ryo himself can do this with no difficulty. This also makes jump ins hard to catch as well.

-Isn't the light version of his air dive kick special supposed to come down at a sharper angle? Also having a different anim to accompany this?

That's about all I have, as anything else was covered by JZ. You have all the same problems that Waru's chars have, because as been said many of times, you're using an outdated template. For the most part though, he feels pretty good. I applaud you hard work with spriting and coding him. Sprites have turned out very nice, gameplay is OK. Good work and thanks for the share.

thank you my good sir... i'll note that on the list.
power charge:  that's 'cause I had planned to make it like AOF3's (both have the same start frames), but  i forgot to sprite it and then I just  adapted the existent.
dive kick: in the firs version it was the same, no one said something about so, I didn't consider sprite the variation and find another one to have 3  (1 different for each kick button).


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#74  February 10, 2014, 05:23:26 am
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You can probably get away with only having two different animations, but 3 different angles.
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#75  February 10, 2014, 05:24:50 am
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Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#76  February 10, 2014, 05:44:37 am
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That double kick in the air looks funny like it could use a extra frame as well as the step kicks the one thats hops.... other than that this has really made progress
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#77  February 10, 2014, 11:27:37 am
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How do I turn off the grooves? ._.
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#78  February 10, 2014, 11:54:30 am
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As I understand, Waru's chars can't turn off the grooves, unless you use patches like the ones made by KojiroBadness.
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#79  February 10, 2014, 03:22:29 pm
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The patch by k-badness works just fine for him. I tried it and it works.
Re: CVS2 Robert UPDATED 2-08-2014
#80  February 11, 2014, 01:47:18 am
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Robert's Muei Shippu Juudankyaku has a very noticeable delay upon the initial kicks being successful. After the 5th hit, Robert pauses for a bit before continuing.

Other than that, this is a very decent character.
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#81  February 11, 2014, 01:51:29 am
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Is it just me or the input time for some moves is too fast?

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#82  February 11, 2014, 03:36:15 am
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What do you mean?
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#83  February 11, 2014, 04:40:27 am
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It's pretty hard for me to perform haoh shokou ken, hien shippu kyaku, Kyokugen ryu Renbu Kyaku, etc.
Anyone else having this problem or am I just useless?

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#84  February 11, 2014, 11:03:00 am
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Not me, at least.
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#85  February 12, 2014, 08:58:49 pm
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I dunno, I did all of those pretty normally.

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